3D Vision Benchmark Thread Benchmark Thread using Batman AA and Heaven 2.1
Hey everyone, There seems to be alot of people interested in exactly what frames they should be expecting with 3D Vision, because with 2D it's easy to relate if your system is getting proper FPS with the hardware you have since there is a million reviews of the GPU your using.

This thread is dedicated at the moment to using two concise benchmarks and that is the Batman AA in game benchmark (which some users may not have), and the Heaven 2.1 benchmark just released which can be downloaded here:
[url="http://downloads.guru3d.com/Unigine-Heaven-DirectX-11-benchmark-2.1-download-2549.html"]http://downloads.guru3d.com/Unigine-Heaven...nload-2549.html[/url].

So the point of this thread of course is to share our benchmarks. Please be precise with your details. Specify your hardware and what drivers you are using. Lastly if you have an overclock specify that too.

I will be asking users who have 1080p displays and 3D Vision and GTX 400 series to post there benches, if you dont have 1080p, feel free to post them also but you obv can't use tessellation..

Please do not cheat on the benchmark, this is not a competition its merely so we can compare with others. Please make sure on your Nvidia CP that AF and AA are turned to Application-Controlled and NOT OFF and that you are using the High Quality for texture filtering! I had 3D Depth @ 70-80% for both games. One problem with Batman AA is that the Frame cap for 3D Vision is 60 FPS @ 120hz (55 FPS if your running 110hz). This presents a small issue for games like Batman but we'll see the frames anyways.
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The settings to use for Heaven 2.1 are as following:

16XAF, 4 X AA, 1920X1080p, Tessellation : extreme and everything else default, Stereo 3D set to 3D vision of course, Full screen: on, Vsync off.

The settings for Batman AA are: 1920X1080p, Everything on Yes except Motion Blur, AA set to 16X, 3D Vision on, PhysX set to High. Vsync off.
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So I'll start and I'm reserving space to add a chart to later.

My system specs are listed here: [url="http://www.overclock.net/system.php?i=27224"]http://www.overclock.net/system.php?i=27224[/url] . I have 2 GTX 480's @ 860/1720/4120 and a GTX 280 for PhysX. I am running a i7 965 EE @ 4.0 ghz. I am using Nvidia'as 257.15 drivers

HEAVEN 2.1 w/AA
[img]http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f15/btdvox/AA.gif[/img]

HEAVEN 2.1 w/NO AA
[img]http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f15/btdvox/NoAA.gif[/img]

BATMAN AA w/above settings
[img]http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f15/btdvox/ShippingPC-BmGame2010-05-2621-45-50.jpg[/img]

So what do my findings mean? I believe, judging from how Metro2033 plays, DX11 Titles hit 3D Vision hard. I have tested turning DX 11 off on Metro 2033, and I get a pretty good spike of frames. I would assume the same for heaven 2.1 but that renders the benchmark moot.
Hey everyone, There seems to be alot of people interested in exactly what frames they should be expecting with 3D Vision, because with 2D it's easy to relate if your system is getting proper FPS with the hardware you have since there is a million reviews of the GPU your using.



This thread is dedicated at the moment to using two concise benchmarks and that is the Batman AA in game benchmark (which some users may not have), and the Heaven 2.1 benchmark just released which can be downloaded here:

http://downloads.guru3d.com/Unigine-Heaven...nload-2549.html.



So the point of this thread of course is to share our benchmarks. Please be precise with your details. Specify your hardware and what drivers you are using. Lastly if you have an overclock specify that too.



I will be asking users who have 1080p displays and 3D Vision and GTX 400 series to post there benches, if you dont have 1080p, feel free to post them also but you obv can't use tessellation..



Please do not cheat on the benchmark, this is not a competition its merely so we can compare with others. Please make sure on your Nvidia CP that AF and AA are turned to Application-Controlled and NOT OFF and that you are using the High Quality for texture filtering! I had 3D Depth @ 70-80% for both games. One problem with Batman AA is that the Frame cap for 3D Vision is 60 FPS @ 120hz (55 FPS if your running 110hz). This presents a small issue for games like Batman but we'll see the frames anyways.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

The settings to use for Heaven 2.1 are as following:



16XAF, 4 X AA, 1920X1080p, Tessellation : extreme and everything else default, Stereo 3D set to 3D vision of course, Full screen: on, Vsync off.



The settings for Batman AA are: 1920X1080p, Everything on Yes except Motion Blur, AA set to 16X, 3D Vision on, PhysX set to High. Vsync off.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------



So I'll start and I'm reserving space to add a chart to later.



My system specs are listed here: http://www.overclock.net/system.php?i=27224 . I have 2 GTX 480's @ 860/1720/4120 and a GTX 280 for PhysX. I am running a i7 965 EE @ 4.0 ghz. I am using Nvidia'as 257.15 drivers



HEAVEN 2.1 w/AA

Image



HEAVEN 2.1 w/NO AA

Image



BATMAN AA w/above settings

Image



So what do my findings mean? I believe, judging from how Metro2033 plays, DX11 Titles hit 3D Vision hard. I have tested turning DX 11 off on Metro 2033, and I get a pretty good spike of frames. I would assume the same for heaven 2.1 but that renders the benchmark moot.

#1
Posted 05/27/2010 03:58 AM   
Hey everyone, There seems to be alot of people interested in exactly what frames they should be expecting with 3D Vision, because with 2D it's easy to relate if your system is getting proper FPS with the hardware you have since there is a million reviews of the GPU your using.

This thread is dedicated at the moment to using two concise benchmarks and that is the Batman AA in game benchmark (which some users may not have), and the Heaven 2.1 benchmark just released which can be downloaded here:
[url="http://downloads.guru3d.com/Unigine-Heaven-DirectX-11-benchmark-2.1-download-2549.html"]http://downloads.guru3d.com/Unigine-Heaven...nload-2549.html[/url].

So the point of this thread of course is to share our benchmarks. Please be precise with your details. Specify your hardware and what drivers you are using. Lastly if you have an overclock specify that too.

I will be asking users who have 1080p displays and 3D Vision and GTX 400 series to post there benches, if you dont have 1080p, feel free to post them also but you obv can't use tessellation..

Please do not cheat on the benchmark, this is not a competition its merely so we can compare with others. Please make sure on your Nvidia CP that AF and AA are turned to Application-Controlled and NOT OFF and that you are using the High Quality for texture filtering! I had 3D Depth @ 70-80% for both games. One problem with Batman AA is that the Frame cap for 3D Vision is 60 FPS @ 120hz (55 FPS if your running 110hz). This presents a small issue for games like Batman but we'll see the frames anyways.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The settings to use for Heaven 2.1 are as following:

16XAF, 4 X AA, 1920X1080p, Tessellation : extreme and everything else default, Stereo 3D set to 3D vision of course, Full screen: on, Vsync off.

The settings for Batman AA are: 1920X1080p, Everything on Yes except Motion Blur, AA set to 16X, 3D Vision on, PhysX set to High. Vsync off.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

So I'll start and I'm reserving space to add a chart to later.

My system specs are listed here: [url="http://www.overclock.net/system.php?i=27224"]http://www.overclock.net/system.php?i=27224[/url] . I have 2 GTX 480's @ 860/1720/4120 and a GTX 280 for PhysX. I am running a i7 965 EE @ 4.0 ghz. I am using Nvidia'as 257.15 drivers

HEAVEN 2.1 w/AA
[img]http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f15/btdvox/AA.gif[/img]

HEAVEN 2.1 w/NO AA
[img]http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f15/btdvox/NoAA.gif[/img]

BATMAN AA w/above settings
[img]http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f15/btdvox/ShippingPC-BmGame2010-05-2621-45-50.jpg[/img]

So what do my findings mean? I believe, judging from how Metro2033 plays, DX11 Titles hit 3D Vision hard. I have tested turning DX 11 off on Metro 2033, and I get a pretty good spike of frames. I would assume the same for heaven 2.1 but that renders the benchmark moot.
Hey everyone, There seems to be alot of people interested in exactly what frames they should be expecting with 3D Vision, because with 2D it's easy to relate if your system is getting proper FPS with the hardware you have since there is a million reviews of the GPU your using.



This thread is dedicated at the moment to using two concise benchmarks and that is the Batman AA in game benchmark (which some users may not have), and the Heaven 2.1 benchmark just released which can be downloaded here:

http://downloads.guru3d.com/Unigine-Heaven...nload-2549.html.



So the point of this thread of course is to share our benchmarks. Please be precise with your details. Specify your hardware and what drivers you are using. Lastly if you have an overclock specify that too.



I will be asking users who have 1080p displays and 3D Vision and GTX 400 series to post there benches, if you dont have 1080p, feel free to post them also but you obv can't use tessellation..



Please do not cheat on the benchmark, this is not a competition its merely so we can compare with others. Please make sure on your Nvidia CP that AF and AA are turned to Application-Controlled and NOT OFF and that you are using the High Quality for texture filtering! I had 3D Depth @ 70-80% for both games. One problem with Batman AA is that the Frame cap for 3D Vision is 60 FPS @ 120hz (55 FPS if your running 110hz). This presents a small issue for games like Batman but we'll see the frames anyways.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

The settings to use for Heaven 2.1 are as following:



16XAF, 4 X AA, 1920X1080p, Tessellation : extreme and everything else default, Stereo 3D set to 3D vision of course, Full screen: on, Vsync off.



The settings for Batman AA are: 1920X1080p, Everything on Yes except Motion Blur, AA set to 16X, 3D Vision on, PhysX set to High. Vsync off.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------



So I'll start and I'm reserving space to add a chart to later.



My system specs are listed here: http://www.overclock.net/system.php?i=27224 . I have 2 GTX 480's @ 860/1720/4120 and a GTX 280 for PhysX. I am running a i7 965 EE @ 4.0 ghz. I am using Nvidia'as 257.15 drivers



HEAVEN 2.1 w/AA

Image



HEAVEN 2.1 w/NO AA

Image



BATMAN AA w/above settings

Image



So what do my findings mean? I believe, judging from how Metro2033 plays, DX11 Titles hit 3D Vision hard. I have tested turning DX 11 off on Metro 2033, and I get a pretty good spike of frames. I would assume the same for heaven 2.1 but that renders the benchmark moot.

#2
Posted 05/27/2010 03:58 AM   
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System:

Intel I7 920 overclocked to 4ghz

Asus Rampage Extreme II

2 Ge-force 480 in SLI

GTX 295 PhysX Card

12gb ddr3 2000mhz ram

Intel SSD in RAID 0

BR RW

1000w Sony surround sound

NVIDIA 3D Vision



3d displays tested:



Mitsubishi 65" DLP 3d HDTV (good old 1080p checkerboard since 2007!!!)

Panasonic VT25 (nice 2d but I returned it due to cross talk)

Acer H5360 720p on 130" screen (the best 3d)

23" Acer LCD monitor (horrible cross talk- sold it)

Samsung 65D8000

#3
Posted 05/27/2010 05:34 PM   
i did a quick run on batman AA. all settings max- no motion blur- 16XQ AA- 1080p- vsync off. My cpu is only running 3.8 today, 480sli running stock clocks. 295 for physX. Interesting results- i have no 60fps cap like others experience.
Windows 7 64bit
driver version 197.41

21 min
106 max
72 average

must have something to do with the DLP tv....
i did a quick run on batman AA. all settings max- no motion blur- 16XQ AA- 1080p- vsync off. My cpu is only running 3.8 today, 480sli running stock clocks. 295 for physX. Interesting results- i have no 60fps cap like others experience.

Windows 7 64bit

driver version 197.41



21 min

106 max

72 average



must have something to do with the DLP tv....

System:

Intel I7 920 overclocked to 4ghz

Asus Rampage Extreme II

2 Ge-force 480 in SLI

GTX 295 PhysX Card

12gb ddr3 2000mhz ram

Intel SSD in RAID 0

BR RW

1000w Sony surround sound

NVIDIA 3D Vision



3d displays tested:



Mitsubishi 65" DLP 3d HDTV (good old 1080p checkerboard since 2007!!!)

Panasonic VT25 (nice 2d but I returned it due to cross talk)

Acer H5360 720p on 130" screen (the best 3d)

23" Acer LCD monitor (horrible cross talk- sold it)

Samsung 65D8000

#4
Posted 05/27/2010 05:36 PM   
[quote name='DanielJoy' post='1063347' date='May 27 2010, 01:36 PM']i did a quick run on batman AA. all settings max- no motion blur- 16XQ AA- 1080p- vsync off. My cpu is only running 3.8 today, 480sli running stock clocks. 295 for physX. Interesting results- i have no 60fps cap like others experience.

21 min
106 max
72 average

must have something to do with the DLP tv....[/quote]



What drivers are you guys using?
What operating system?

[size=1][color="#FFCC00"]MOTHERBOARD: EVGA 780I SLI A2 P-06Bios
CPU: Intel 2 Core Quad QX9650 45nm(OC @ 3.83GHz FSB:1333 @ 1.3200V set in bios)prime95 all day
CPU Cooler: Gigabyte 3D Mercury case with integrated watercooling (cpu only at present)
RAM: 2x2GB OCZ PC8000 SLI (Timing:5-5-5-15-2T@ 2.0V, FSB:DRAM Ratio=2:3)
GRAPHICS: 2X EVGA GTX 480sc(clocks: 769c/1007mem/1538shader, stock heatsink)
HDD1: 2X Western Digital Caviar SATA II 250GB 7200 rpm Raid 0
HDD2: Western Digital Caviar SATA II 500GB 7200 rpm
SOUND: On board
OS: Windows Vista Ultimate 64bit SP2
MONITOR: Dell 3008wfp 30" Native Res: 2560X1600 @ 60Hz, Acer235Hz120Hz-3D
PSU: Thermaltake Toughpower 1000W
CASE: Gigabyte 3D Mercury
3DMARK Vantage: 29,686p Current Display Driver:197.41[/color][/size]
[quote name='DanielJoy' post='1063347' date='May 27 2010, 01:36 PM']i did a quick run on batman AA. all settings max- no motion blur- 16XQ AA- 1080p- vsync off. My cpu is only running 3.8 today, 480sli running stock clocks. 295 for physX. Interesting results- i have no 60fps cap like others experience.



21 min

106 max

72 average



must have something to do with the DLP tv....







What drivers are you guys using?

What operating system?



MOTHERBOARD: EVGA 780I SLI A2 P-06Bios

CPU: Intel 2 Core Quad QX9650 45nm(OC @ 3.83GHz FSB:1333 @ 1.3200V set in bios)prime95 all day

CPU Cooler: Gigabyte 3D Mercury case with integrated watercooling (cpu only at present)

RAM: 2x2GB OCZ PC8000 SLI (Timing:5-5-5-15-2T@ 2.0V, FSB:DRAM Ratio=2:3)

GRAPHICS: 2X EVGA GTX 480sc(clocks: 769c/1007mem/1538shader, stock heatsink)

HDD1: 2X Western Digital Caviar SATA II 250GB 7200 rpm Raid 0

HDD2: Western Digital Caviar SATA II 500GB 7200 rpm

SOUND: On board

OS: Windows Vista Ultimate 64bit SP2

MONITOR: Dell 3008wfp 30" Native Res: 2560X1600 @ 60Hz, Acer235Hz120Hz-3D

PSU: Thermaltake Toughpower 1000W

CASE: Gigabyte 3D Mercury

3DMARK Vantage: 29,686p Current Display Driver:197.41

#5
Posted 05/27/2010 08:09 PM   
[quote name='DanielJoy' post='1063347' date='May 27 2010, 10:36 AM']i did a quick run on batman AA. all settings max- no motion blur- 16XQ AA- 1080p- vsync off. My cpu is only running 3.8 today, 480sli running stock clocks. 295 for physX. Interesting results- i have no 60fps cap like others experience.

21 min
106 max
72 average

must have something to do with the DLP tv....[/quote]

Any Idea how you got over the frame cap? I thought with 3D vision no matter what all games would have a 60 FPS frame cap @ 120hz. Because I'm sure the "Vsync" is hindering my frames which is why the min is only 50. I'll have to check the engine.ini on batman and make sure I had smoothframes off. I'll recheck today, but I think 3D Vision has a frame cap for me.
[quote name='DanielJoy' post='1063347' date='May 27 2010, 10:36 AM']i did a quick run on batman AA. all settings max- no motion blur- 16XQ AA- 1080p- vsync off. My cpu is only running 3.8 today, 480sli running stock clocks. 295 for physX. Interesting results- i have no 60fps cap like others experience.



21 min

106 max

72 average



must have something to do with the DLP tv....



Any Idea how you got over the frame cap? I thought with 3D vision no matter what all games would have a 60 FPS frame cap @ 120hz. Because I'm sure the "Vsync" is hindering my frames which is why the min is only 50. I'll have to check the engine.ini on batman and make sure I had smoothframes off. I'll recheck today, but I think 3D Vision has a frame cap for me.

#6
Posted 05/27/2010 09:33 PM   
[quote name='btdvox' post='1063463' date='May 27 2010, 02:33 PM']Any Idea how you got over the frame cap? I thought with 3D vision no matter what all games would have a 60 FPS frame cap @ 120hz. Because I'm sure the "Vsync" is hindering my frames which is why the min is only 50. I'll have to check the engine.ini on batman and make sure I had smoothframes off. I'll recheck today, but I think 3D Vision has a frame cap for me.[/quote]

i did nothing special-this is just how my setup has always run. none of my games are frame capped in 3d with vsync off. I have a Mitsubishi DLP hdtv.
[quote name='btdvox' post='1063463' date='May 27 2010, 02:33 PM']Any Idea how you got over the frame cap? I thought with 3D vision no matter what all games would have a 60 FPS frame cap @ 120hz. Because I'm sure the "Vsync" is hindering my frames which is why the min is only 50. I'll have to check the engine.ini on batman and make sure I had smoothframes off. I'll recheck today, but I think 3D Vision has a frame cap for me.



i did nothing special-this is just how my setup has always run. none of my games are frame capped in 3d with vsync off. I have a Mitsubishi DLP hdtv.

System:

Intel I7 920 overclocked to 4ghz

Asus Rampage Extreme II

2 Ge-force 480 in SLI

GTX 295 PhysX Card

12gb ddr3 2000mhz ram

Intel SSD in RAID 0

BR RW

1000w Sony surround sound

NVIDIA 3D Vision



3d displays tested:



Mitsubishi 65" DLP 3d HDTV (good old 1080p checkerboard since 2007!!!)

Panasonic VT25 (nice 2d but I returned it due to cross talk)

Acer H5360 720p on 130" screen (the best 3d)

23" Acer LCD monitor (horrible cross talk- sold it)

Samsung 65D8000

#7
Posted 05/27/2010 10:19 PM   
[quote name='baragon' post='1063424' date='May 27 2010, 01:09 PM']What drivers are you guys using?
What operating system?[/quote]

updated original post.....
[quote name='baragon' post='1063424' date='May 27 2010, 01:09 PM']What drivers are you guys using?

What operating system?



updated original post.....

System:

Intel I7 920 overclocked to 4ghz

Asus Rampage Extreme II

2 Ge-force 480 in SLI

GTX 295 PhysX Card

12gb ddr3 2000mhz ram

Intel SSD in RAID 0

BR RW

1000w Sony surround sound

NVIDIA 3D Vision



3d displays tested:



Mitsubishi 65" DLP 3d HDTV (good old 1080p checkerboard since 2007!!!)

Panasonic VT25 (nice 2d but I returned it due to cross talk)

Acer H5360 720p on 130" screen (the best 3d)

23" Acer LCD monitor (horrible cross talk- sold it)

Samsung 65D8000

#8
Posted 05/27/2010 10:19 PM   
[quote name='DanielJoy' post='1063485' date='May 27 2010, 03:19 PM']updated original post.....[/quote]

Weird!! Maybe someone else can chime in.
[quote name='DanielJoy' post='1063485' date='May 27 2010, 03:19 PM']updated original post.....



Weird!! Maybe someone else can chime in.

#9
Posted 05/27/2010 10:37 PM   
I think he's getting Frames per second total and not fps per eye.
are you using Fraps? what version?

I've had strange experiences with Fraps that forced me to reinstall.

If he was getting and average of 70+ FPS per eye that means he has a tv capable of producing at least 140hz in this case. either that or only 60framers per secodn per eye is being shown and the other 12fps per eye is being dropped somewhere.
I think he's getting Frames per second total and not fps per eye.

are you using Fraps? what version?



I've had strange experiences with Fraps that forced me to reinstall.



If he was getting and average of 70+ FPS per eye that means he has a tv capable of producing at least 140hz in this case. either that or only 60framers per secodn per eye is being shown and the other 12fps per eye is being dropped somewhere.

Intel Core i9-9820x @ 3.30GHZ
32 gig Ram
2 EVGA RTX 2080 ti Gaming
3 X ASUS ROG SWIFT 27 144Hz G-SYNC Gaming 3D Monitor [PG278Q]
1 X ASUS VG278HE
Nvidia 3Dvision
Oculus Rift
HTC VIVE
Windows 10

#10
Posted 05/27/2010 10:57 PM   
[quote name='msm903' post='1063506' date='May 27 2010, 03:57 PM']I think he's getting Frames per second total and not fps per eye.
are you using Fraps? what version?

I've had strange experiences with Fraps that forced me to reinstall.

If he was getting and average of 70+ FPS per eye that means he has a tv capable of producing at least 140hz in this case. either that or only 60framers per secodn per eye is being shown and the other 12fps per eye is being dropped somewhere.[/quote]

It would seem so, I tried finding any research on it and it says everywhere that with a 120hz monitor you will get a frame rate cap of 62 FPS. Which is the vsync norm. I also tried batman AA with bsmooothrate = false and it did nothing, but if I turn 3D vision off I get 121 FPS avg @ max settings so it must be that.
[quote name='msm903' post='1063506' date='May 27 2010, 03:57 PM']I think he's getting Frames per second total and not fps per eye.

are you using Fraps? what version?



I've had strange experiences with Fraps that forced me to reinstall.



If he was getting and average of 70+ FPS per eye that means he has a tv capable of producing at least 140hz in this case. either that or only 60framers per secodn per eye is being shown and the other 12fps per eye is being dropped somewhere.



It would seem so, I tried finding any research on it and it says everywhere that with a 120hz monitor you will get a frame rate cap of 62 FPS. Which is the vsync norm. I also tried batman AA with bsmooothrate = false and it did nothing, but if I turn 3D vision off I get 121 FPS avg @ max settings so it must be that.

#11
Posted 05/28/2010 03:04 AM   
[quote name='DanielJoy' post='1063483' date='May 27 2010, 06:19 PM']i did nothing special-this is just how my setup has always run. none of my games are frame capped in 3d with vsync off. I have a Mitsubishi DLP hdtv.[/quote]


yea our tvs use 60hz only, and if you notice the lenses refresh slower.. like if it was refreshing at 30hz per eye.. thats the checkerboard 3d.
am sayin that becasuse i have the mitsu and the acer and when playin at 120hz if i see my phone i can see it regreshing faster then when i use my tv and see my phone i see it refreshing slower
and since mitsus only get 60hz in game settings.. cuz of hdmi i guess..
[quote name='DanielJoy' post='1063483' date='May 27 2010, 06:19 PM']i did nothing special-this is just how my setup has always run. none of my games are frame capped in 3d with vsync off. I have a Mitsubishi DLP hdtv.





yea our tvs use 60hz only, and if you notice the lenses refresh slower.. like if it was refreshing at 30hz per eye.. thats the checkerboard 3d.

am sayin that becasuse i have the mitsu and the acer and when playin at 120hz if i see my phone i can see it regreshing faster then when i use my tv and see my phone i see it refreshing slower

and since mitsus only get 60hz in game settings.. cuz of hdmi i guess..

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Acer HN274H
30" IPS Pro Monitor WQXGA 2560x1600
Mitsubishi 60737 60" DLP HDTV

Core i7 3820 @4.8ghz

16GB DDR3 1600

ASRock Fatal1ty X79 Professional LGA 2011

SeaSonic X-SERIES X-1050 1050W

Windows 7 Ultimate x64

ASUS GTX titan SLI

Sennheiser pc 360 with Asus Xonar Essence STX

Bose Companion 3 Series II

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#12
Posted 05/29/2010 12:34 PM   
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