Samsung HLT XX87/89S LED 1080P TVs WITH VESA DIN-3 Samsung's new LED DLPs have 3D support!
To everyone interested...

Samsung has recently released a new LED light engine DLP rear projection TV series called HLT XX87/89S. These new 1080p (1920 x 1080p) tvs have a VESA miniDIN-3 connector for stereoscopic 3D support!!! Due to the innovative LED light engine no colour wheel exists in the design and it's capable of 120Hz and can natively display xvYCC colour gamut!!! The caveat with xvYCC is only the xx89S variants have the HDMI 1.3a input to accommodate this colour space. Here is hopping that nVidia create video drivers for latest generation GPUs that can work with display devices like this new amazing Samsung LED DLP. Owhh by the way the lamp life is over 50,000 hours!!!


Solid-State

[url="http://www.samsung.com/Products/TV/DLPTV/HLT5689SXXAA.asp"]http://www.samsung.com/Products/TV/DLPTV/HLT5689SXXAA.asp[/url]
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[url="http://www.samsung.com/Products/TV/dlptv/index.asp"]http://www.samsung.com/Products/TV/dlptv/index.asp[/url] ("3D Information" on top right)
To everyone interested...



Samsung has recently released a new LED light engine DLP rear projection TV series called HLT XX87/89S. These new 1080p (1920 x 1080p) tvs have a VESA miniDIN-3 connector for stereoscopic 3D support!!! Due to the innovative LED light engine no colour wheel exists in the design and it's capable of 120Hz and can natively display xvYCC colour gamut!!! The caveat with xvYCC is only the xx89S variants have the HDMI 1.3a input to accommodate this colour space. Here is hopping that nVidia create video drivers for latest generation GPUs that can work with display devices like this new amazing Samsung LED DLP. Owhh by the way the lamp life is over 50,000 hours!!!





Solid-State



http://www.samsung.com/Products/TV/DLPTV/HLT5689SXXAA.asp

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/home-entertainm...fall-255312.php

http://www.samsung.com/Products/TV/dlptv/index.asp ("3D Information" on top right)

#1
Posted 05/22/2007 02:12 AM   
Wow. 72", brilliant colors, bright as hell, high refresh rate, high resolution. That's the ultimate 3D gaming monitor no? Nice find :)
Wow. 72", brilliant colors, bright as hell, high refresh rate, high resolution. That's the ultimate 3D gaming monitor no? Nice find :)

#2
Posted 05/22/2007 02:18 PM   
[quote name='Freke1' date='May 22 2007, 07:18 AM']Wow. 72", brilliant colors, bright as hell, high refresh rate, high resolution. That's the ultimate 3D gaming monitor no? Nice find  :)
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No arguement here!!! Yeah I'd say this is the ULTIMATE large video display for gaming no questioning that... It comes in 50" to 72" sizes... Offers 1:1 pixel mapping and you just gotta love the thin bezel at around 1CM. I'm going to get a 56" model.

Solid-State
[quote name='Freke1' date='May 22 2007, 07:18 AM']Wow. 72", brilliant colors, bright as hell, high refresh rate, high resolution. That's the ultimate 3D gaming monitor no? Nice find  :)

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No arguement here!!! Yeah I'd say this is the ULTIMATE large video display for gaming no questioning that... It comes in 50" to 72" sizes... Offers 1:1 pixel mapping and you just gotta love the thin bezel at around 1CM. I'm going to get a 56" model.



Solid-State

#3
Posted 05/22/2007 06:13 PM   
It sounds great put me down for one as soon as I get a big enough appartment ;). My only question is this. It uses HDMI 1.3a to supply 1080p at 120hz. I looked at older HDMI's and I can't find reference to them working at 1080p at 120hz ... Also will say a geforce 8800 work at 1080p at 120hz as the HDMI 1.3a spec wasent finalized until late november 2006 well after the 8800 was released.

If theres a videocard that can drive this display then count me in as it would be akin to a dual projector setup and it would run at 120hz and theres no need to replace bulbs. It really would be the greatest thing for 3d since sliced bread!
It sounds great put me down for one as soon as I get a big enough appartment ;). My only question is this. It uses HDMI 1.3a to supply 1080p at 120hz. I looked at older HDMI's and I can't find reference to them working at 1080p at 120hz ... Also will say a geforce 8800 work at 1080p at 120hz as the HDMI 1.3a spec wasent finalized until late november 2006 well after the 8800 was released.



If theres a videocard that can drive this display then count me in as it would be akin to a dual projector setup and it would run at 120hz and theres no need to replace bulbs. It really would be the greatest thing for 3d since sliced bread!

#4
Posted 05/22/2007 06:41 PM   
This is speculation, but we should be careful not to jump the gun on this.

Consider,

This set uses a 1 panel DLP from Texas instruments. The newest DLP panel from Texas instruments can "wobulate", which means it can shift a 120hz signal up and down into two 60hz signals faster than the eye can notice, effectively doubling the resolution (at a cost of half the refresh rate). The newest HP DLP's also use the newest DLP panels from Texas instruments, and they do indeed wobulate.

So although the panel may be capable of 120hz refresh, it might only be at HALF the resolution (or 960x540p), which although awesome for 3d, is not exactly the holy-grail that you guys are looking for. Could Samsung's 120hz refresh be marketing spin?

Please take what I say with a grain of salt, though as there are almost no actual facts on this television's 3d capability out there. But if it was true that this panel was actually capable of 120hz 1920x1080 resolution, why would it be boxed in a sub-$3000 dollar TV, when the Christie projectors retail for 50k? Wouldn't Samsung be giving away their best tech too early and for too cheap?

We need someone who owns this TV to formulate a way to test the true resolution/refresh of this panel.
This is speculation, but we should be careful not to jump the gun on this.



Consider,



This set uses a 1 panel DLP from Texas instruments. The newest DLP panel from Texas instruments can "wobulate", which means it can shift a 120hz signal up and down into two 60hz signals faster than the eye can notice, effectively doubling the resolution (at a cost of half the refresh rate). The newest HP DLP's also use the newest DLP panels from Texas instruments, and they do indeed wobulate.



So although the panel may be capable of 120hz refresh, it might only be at HALF the resolution (or 960x540p), which although awesome for 3d, is not exactly the holy-grail that you guys are looking for. Could Samsung's 120hz refresh be marketing spin?



Please take what I say with a grain of salt, though as there are almost no actual facts on this television's 3d capability out there. But if it was true that this panel was actually capable of 120hz 1920x1080 resolution, why would it be boxed in a sub-$3000 dollar TV, when the Christie projectors retail for 50k? Wouldn't Samsung be giving away their best tech too early and for too cheap?



We need someone who owns this TV to formulate a way to test the true resolution/refresh of this panel.

#5
Posted 05/23/2007 08:21 PM   
[quote name='llamameat' date='May 23 2007, 04:21 PM']This is speculation, but we should be careful not to jump the gun on this.

Consider,
   
This set uses a 1 panel DLP from Texas instruments.  The newest DLP panel from Texas instruments can "wobulate", which means it can shift a 120hz signal up and down into two 60hz signals faster than the eye can notice, effectively doubling the resolution (at a cost of half the refresh rate).  The newest HP DLP's also use the newest DLP panels from Texas instruments, and they do indeed wobulate.

So although the panel may be capable of 120hz refresh, it might only be at HALF the resolution (or 960x540p), which although awesome for 3d, is not exactly the holy-grail that you guys are looking for.  Could Samsung's 120hz refresh be marketing spin?

Please take what I say with a grain of salt, though as there are almost no actual facts on this television's 3d capability out there.  But if it was true that this panel was actually capable of 120hz 1920x1080 resolution, why would it be boxed in a sub-$3000 dollar TV, when the Christie projectors retail for 50k?  Wouldn't Samsung be giving away their best tech too early and for too cheap?

We need someone who owns this TV to formulate a way to test the true resolution/refresh of this panel.
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Awesome find! I have a Mitsubishi 61in DLP display and always wondered why i couldn't do 3D with it when you consider the many advantages of DLP over CRT. Can't wait till we have a rig that can push 1080p in 3D. 120hz refresh isn't really required though for good 3D on DLP. Folks have been using 70HZ DLP projectors for a few years now, me included, with no visible flickering or ghosting. Can't wait to see the first review! Who wants to pitch in on the 72in model?

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[quote name='llamameat' date='May 23 2007, 04:21 PM']This is speculation, but we should be careful not to jump the gun on this.



Consider,

   

This set uses a 1 panel DLP from Texas instruments.  The newest DLP panel from Texas instruments can "wobulate", which means it can shift a 120hz signal up and down into two 60hz signals faster than the eye can notice, effectively doubling the resolution (at a cost of half the refresh rate).  The newest HP DLP's also use the newest DLP panels from Texas instruments, and they do indeed wobulate.



So although the panel may be capable of 120hz refresh, it might only be at HALF the resolution (or 960x540p), which although awesome for 3d, is not exactly the holy-grail that you guys are looking for.  Could Samsung's 120hz refresh be marketing spin?



Please take what I say with a grain of salt, though as there are almost no actual facts on this television's 3d capability out there.  But if it was true that this panel was actually capable of 120hz 1920x1080 resolution, why would it be boxed in a sub-$3000 dollar TV, when the Christie projectors retail for 50k?  Wouldn't Samsung be giving away their best tech too early and for too cheap?



We need someone who owns this TV to formulate a way to test the true resolution/refresh of this panel.

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Awesome find! I have a Mitsubishi 61in DLP display and always wondered why i couldn't do 3D with it when you consider the many advantages of DLP over CRT. Can't wait till we have a rig that can push 1080p in 3D. 120hz refresh isn't really required though for good 3D on DLP. Folks have been using 70HZ DLP projectors for a few years now, me included, with no visible flickering or ghosting. Can't wait to see the first review! Who wants to pitch in on the 72in model?



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#6
Posted 05/26/2007 03:38 AM   
Hey All,

I noticed just today that Andrew Woods flagged this TV with respect to it being 3D capable at 120hz on Amazon. For those who aren't aware he currently maintains a list of DLP 3d compatible projectors. I emailed him for details about how he tested this, as I don't see any compatible video cards. But regardless It's looking promising! :)

*update*
Looks like the bandwidth requirements I mentioned earlier have been eliminated through the use of some proprietary encoding scheme the results in half resolution when operating at 120hz. So basically if you want 120hz some equivalent of interlacing happens. I would be interested to confirm my suspicion that this means one would only be required to render half resolution at 120hz so for example. 540p at 120hz rather than 1080p at 120hz. Anyways looks like it's still possibily the best bang for buck when it comes to 3D!
Hey All,



I noticed just today that Andrew Woods flagged this TV with respect to it being 3D capable at 120hz on Amazon. For those who aren't aware he currently maintains a list of DLP 3d compatible projectors. I emailed him for details about how he tested this, as I don't see any compatible video cards. But regardless It's looking promising! :)



*update*

Looks like the bandwidth requirements I mentioned earlier have been eliminated through the use of some proprietary encoding scheme the results in half resolution when operating at 120hz. So basically if you want 120hz some equivalent of interlacing happens. I would be interested to confirm my suspicion that this means one would only be required to render half resolution at 120hz so for example. 540p at 120hz rather than 1080p at 120hz. Anyways looks like it's still possibily the best bang for buck when it comes to 3D!

#7
Posted 07/05/2007 12:27 PM   
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