Use projector glasses instead of Nvidia glasses?
I'm looking to getting an Optima HD66 projector for 3D gaming. This would be hooked up to my laptop running a GTX 285M. Through my research, I'm seeing conflicting requirements for the glasses. There's the Optima brand glasses, which seem to be for plugging in a 3D Blu-Ray player / PS3 into the projector. Then there's the Nvidia glasses, which seem to be required solely for PC gaming.

Is there any way I can use just the Optima glasses, so I don't have the redundant pair? I'd rather not buy both if I can avoid it.

I've looked at the 3DTV Play system, but [url=http://www.nvidia.com/object/3dtv-play-system-requirements.html]it seems my card isn't supported[/url]. Would this work if I upgraded the card in my laptop to something on that list? Was thinking about upgrading that anyways.
I'm looking to getting an Optima HD66 projector for 3D gaming. This would be hooked up to my laptop running a GTX 285M. Through my research, I'm seeing conflicting requirements for the glasses. There's the Optima brand glasses, which seem to be for plugging in a 3D Blu-Ray player / PS3 into the projector. Then there's the Nvidia glasses, which seem to be required solely for PC gaming.



Is there any way I can use just the Optima glasses, so I don't have the redundant pair? I'd rather not buy both if I can avoid it.



I've looked at the 3DTV Play system, but it seems my card isn't supported. Would this work if I upgraded the card in my laptop to something on that list? Was thinking about upgrading that anyways.

#1
Posted 06/28/2012 11:59 PM   
If your GPU is not listed as support then chances are it won't work at all. In fact, sometimes Nvidia lists things as supported that are NOT (in the case of my GTX 555M, which doesn't work I'm still pissed). The HD66 is an Nvidia 3D Vision compatible projector, meaning you MUST use the Nvidia glasses. Its also an earlier DLP-Link projector, so may have some compatibility issues in general (random eye swaps, etc.).

I would strongly recommend purchasing the Optoma GT750 (same as GT750E) instead. That is a newer HDMI 1.4a compatible projector, so it will work great with basically any device (PC, PS3, Blu-Ray). With the HD66 you can only use an Nvidia GPU based PC and are locked into the Nvidia glasses. The GT750 uses its own DLP-Link glasses and you can buy different brands for cheap as long as they are DLP-Link. You can also use the Optoma RF glasses, or legacy glasses with a VESA 3-pin plug. The GT750 also supports different frame-compatible 3D formats, like side-by-side, which will help with things like YouTube3D. It also means you can use it with the laptop you have. Otherwise you will need to upgrade your laptop to something that supports HDMI 1.4a 3D. Let me just be clear, there is probably no way your current laptop will produce full quality 3D with any projector (using Nvidia's software). You can, however, output side-by-side 3D but not with Nvidia's drivers. You will need to use the DDD or iz3D drivers for that. Hope that helps.
If your GPU is not listed as support then chances are it won't work at all. In fact, sometimes Nvidia lists things as supported that are NOT (in the case of my GTX 555M, which doesn't work I'm still pissed). The HD66 is an Nvidia 3D Vision compatible projector, meaning you MUST use the Nvidia glasses. Its also an earlier DLP-Link projector, so may have some compatibility issues in general (random eye swaps, etc.).



I would strongly recommend purchasing the Optoma GT750 (same as GT750E) instead. That is a newer HDMI 1.4a compatible projector, so it will work great with basically any device (PC, PS3, Blu-Ray). With the HD66 you can only use an Nvidia GPU based PC and are locked into the Nvidia glasses. The GT750 uses its own DLP-Link glasses and you can buy different brands for cheap as long as they are DLP-Link. You can also use the Optoma RF glasses, or legacy glasses with a VESA 3-pin plug. The GT750 also supports different frame-compatible 3D formats, like side-by-side, which will help with things like YouTube3D. It also means you can use it with the laptop you have. Otherwise you will need to upgrade your laptop to something that supports HDMI 1.4a 3D. Let me just be clear, there is probably no way your current laptop will produce full quality 3D with any projector (using Nvidia's software). You can, however, output side-by-side 3D but not with Nvidia's drivers. You will need to use the DDD or iz3D drivers for that. Hope that helps.
#2
Posted 06/29/2012 07:26 PM   
The HD66 is a DLP projector. The glasses you refer to I assume are DLP Link glasses, they will work for any 3D material displayed by the projector.
http://www.dlp.com/projector/dlp-innovations/dlp-link.aspx

To enable 3D Vision, you'll need the Nvidia emitter. The Nvidia 3D glasses will work with any 3D content displayed by the HD66 via your PC. In some cases, the DLP Link white flash that syncs the DLP Link glasses may cause a red tint to be observed when using IR Glasses.

The PS3 will not output a Frame Sequential 3D Format. So you'd need to buy a 3D format converter such as the VP3D1 or 3D-XL ($200-280)in addition to the HD66 if you want to use a PS3 with it or a set top cable box for broadcast 3D.

So your best bet is most likely the GT750 that was mentioned, due to it's all around compatibility. The GT750 is supported via 3DTV Play which is a $40 stand alone product, or it's free if you have a Nvidia emitter connected to the PC.

I myself have been using the TrueDepth 3D DLP Link Rechargeable glasses. I like the ability to easily swap the frame sync by simply pushing the button on the glasses vs having to go into a sevice menu to swap it or having to cycle the source material on and off to get a proper sync.

Of course if you get the GT750, you can get the Optoma RF emitter and RF glasses. They will sync correctly everytime.
The HD66 is a DLP projector. The glasses you refer to I assume are DLP Link glasses, they will work for any 3D material displayed by the projector.

http://www.dlp.com/projector/dlp-innovations/dlp-link.aspx



To enable 3D Vision, you'll need the Nvidia emitter. The Nvidia 3D glasses will work with any 3D content displayed by the HD66 via your PC. In some cases, the DLP Link white flash that syncs the DLP Link glasses may cause a red tint to be observed when using IR Glasses.



The PS3 will not output a Frame Sequential 3D Format. So you'd need to buy a 3D format converter such as the VP3D1 or 3D-XL ($200-280)in addition to the HD66 if you want to use a PS3 with it or a set top cable box for broadcast 3D.



So your best bet is most likely the GT750 that was mentioned, due to it's all around compatibility. The GT750 is supported via 3DTV Play which is a $40 stand alone product, or it's free if you have a Nvidia emitter connected to the PC.



I myself have been using the TrueDepth 3D DLP Link Rechargeable glasses. I like the ability to easily swap the frame sync by simply pushing the button on the glasses vs having to go into a sevice menu to swap it or having to cycle the source material on and off to get a proper sync.



Of course if you get the GT750, you can get the Optoma RF emitter and RF glasses. They will sync correctly everytime.

#3
Posted 06/30/2012 04:21 PM   
The GTX 285M doesn't appear to support 3D http://www.geforce.com/hardware/notebook-gpus/geforce-gtx-285m

It most likely will not support 3D Discover as well since it's a laptop.
The GTX 285M doesn't appear to support 3D http://www.geforce.com/hardware/notebook-gpus/geforce-gtx-285m



It most likely will not support 3D Discover as well since it's a laptop.

#4
Posted 06/30/2012 04:25 PM   
I would advise to think long and hard if you truly want a 3D projector over a 3D TV for gaming.

I own a Optoma HD33. It's amazing for movies and SOME games are pretty damn awesome, obviously a game like dead space or Assassin's Creed are insane on the PJ. But in my case gaming sessions are much longer then movie sessions. You'll burn through your lamp like crazy, also you need a very VERY dark room (not so much the light of the PJ, but your shutterglass 3D glasses flikker like crazy once light enters the room), so bassicaly you need to darken your room during they day if you want to play a game (in my case I could only play at night).

I have no regret whatsoever about my Optoma, it's an amazing piece of equipment, but I purchased a Panny 3DTV and put this in my game room for the sole purpose of gaming, and now I just watch movies on my Optoma. Some games like top down RPGs (Dungeon Siege 3) or side scrollers (Trine 2) work better on my 3D TV, less blurry and better depth.

It really depends on your needs, but if I were to pick, I'd say projector for movies, 3DTV for games.
I would advise to think long and hard if you truly want a 3D projector over a 3D TV for gaming.



I own a Optoma HD33. It's amazing for movies and SOME games are pretty damn awesome, obviously a game like dead space or Assassin's Creed are insane on the PJ. But in my case gaming sessions are much longer then movie sessions. You'll burn through your lamp like crazy, also you need a very VERY dark room (not so much the light of the PJ, but your shutterglass 3D glasses flikker like crazy once light enters the room), so bassicaly you need to darken your room during they day if you want to play a game (in my case I could only play at night).



I have no regret whatsoever about my Optoma, it's an amazing piece of equipment, but I purchased a Panny 3DTV and put this in my game room for the sole purpose of gaming, and now I just watch movies on my Optoma. Some games like top down RPGs (Dungeon Siege 3) or side scrollers (Trine 2) work better on my 3D TV, less blurry and better depth.



It really depends on your needs, but if I were to pick, I'd say projector for movies, 3DTV for games.

i7 - Nvidia 780ti - Nvidia 3DTV - Optoma HD33 - 100" screen + Panasonic Viera TX-P46GT30E

#5
Posted 06/30/2012 09:07 PM   
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