Hi everyone, i have a few questions regarding new Samsung HDTV displays and compatibility with 3D Vision.
I know the fundamental principles of stereo3d, what's necessary to get optimal effect ect. I have been wanting a PC compatible 3DTV for many years now but since i live in Europe finding one that works have almost been impossible.
Today i see many brands releasing so called '3D Ready' displays on the swedish market, and i'm glad this trend finally reached here.
But i know how well the TV hardware industry likes to fool us consumers with products that might seem compatible but in fact are not.
The Samsung UE46C8705XS model promises 3D but if i read the specifications it says '100/200Hz Motion Plus'.
Does this mean that you get a max raw update frequency of 100Hz and Motion Plus interpolated 200Hz?
Here is the full spec from the Swedish Samsung site
[url="http://www.samsung.com/se/consumer/tv-home-theatre/tv/led-tv/UE46C8705XSXXE/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detail&tab=spec&fullspec=F"]http://www.samsung.com/se/consumer/tv-home...&fullspec=F[/url] (Ja means Yes, Nej means No if you wonder)
Would such monitor be compatible with Nvidia 3D Vision?
If i check the US Samsung site i find the UN55C7000 model which i can't find on the Swedish market at all, but the spec tell me this display is 'Auto Motion Plus 120/240Hz' so that would mean a maximum raw update frequency of 120Hz right?
Also it seems like Samsung's own active shutters are included with the TV, while the UE46C8705XS model does not include any glasses at all.
As i said, i know many manufactures are cheating to keep us buying new products more often, and this stereo3d trend is really a victim right now. Many people think it's cool but few actually find use for it or even have the proper means to view and enjoy it. Right now i feel 3D gaming is much more potent than movies or regular TV broadcasts, but i really need to sort things out if any of the TV models on the Swedish market actually are fully compatible or even partly compatible.
That's why i need people with true experience to help me with this. People who really know all the traps you might encounter in this new technology trend.
By looking at the specifications i poster can anyone tell if the Samsung UE46C8705XS model is, or could be compatible with Nvidia 3D Vision? Or would the model on the US site more suitable? (Link to the UN55C7000 model)
[url="http://www.samsung.com/us/consumer/tv-video/televisions/led-tv/UN55C7000WFXZA/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detail&tab=spec"]http://www.samsung.com/us/consumer/tv-vide...il&tab=spec[/url]
Hi everyone, i have a few questions regarding new Samsung HDTV displays and compatibility with 3D Vision.
I know the fundamental principles of stereo3d, what's necessary to get optimal effect ect. I have been wanting a PC compatible 3DTV for many years now but since i live in Europe finding one that works have almost been impossible.
Today i see many brands releasing so called '3D Ready' displays on the swedish market, and i'm glad this trend finally reached here.
But i know how well the TV hardware industry likes to fool us consumers with products that might seem compatible but in fact are not.
The Samsung UE46C8705XS model promises 3D but if i read the specifications it says '100/200Hz Motion Plus'.
Does this mean that you get a max raw update frequency of 100Hz and Motion Plus interpolated 200Hz?
Here is the full spec from the Swedish Samsung site
Would such monitor be compatible with Nvidia 3D Vision?
If i check the US Samsung site i find the UN55C7000 model which i can't find on the Swedish market at all, but the spec tell me this display is 'Auto Motion Plus 120/240Hz' so that would mean a maximum raw update frequency of 120Hz right?
Also it seems like Samsung's own active shutters are included with the TV, while the UE46C8705XS model does not include any glasses at all.
As i said, i know many manufactures are cheating to keep us buying new products more often, and this stereo3d trend is really a victim right now. Many people think it's cool but few actually find use for it or even have the proper means to view and enjoy it. Right now i feel 3D gaming is much more potent than movies or regular TV broadcasts, but i really need to sort things out if any of the TV models on the Swedish market actually are fully compatible or even partly compatible.
That's why i need people with true experience to help me with this. People who really know all the traps you might encounter in this new technology trend.
By looking at the specifications i poster can anyone tell if the Samsung UE46C8705XS model is, or could be compatible with Nvidia 3D Vision? Or would the model on the US site more suitable? (Link to the UN55C7000 model)
Hi
The new range of HDTVs (Samsung, Panasonic, Sony, etc...) use different image transmission and glass synchronization systems as nvidia 3D vision.
These TVs are therefore NOT compatible with Nvidia 3D vision : you have to use the TV manufacturer's own brand of glasses with these TVs.
The Nvidia 3D vision driver can produce the 3D picture format for these displays, however this feature is currently locked as Nvidia wants to sell the software support that allows you to play PC games in 3D on these TV in a product called "Nvidia 3DTV play", which will be available sometime this summer and which will cost approximately 40$ according to an Nvidia press release.
The new range of HDTVs (Samsung, Panasonic, Sony, etc...) use different image transmission and glass synchronization systems as nvidia 3D vision.
These TVs are therefore NOT compatible with Nvidia 3D vision : you have to use the TV manufacturer's own brand of glasses with these TVs.
The Nvidia 3D vision driver can produce the 3D picture format for these displays, however this feature is currently locked as Nvidia wants to sell the software support that allows you to play PC games in 3D on these TV in a product called "Nvidia 3DTV play", which will be available sometime this summer and which will cost approximately 40$ according to an Nvidia press release.
Passive 3D forever
110" DIY dual-projection system
2x Epson EH-TW3500 (1080p) + Linear Polarizers (SPAR)
XtremScreen Daylight 2.0
VNS Geobox501 signal converter
The Sammies do suport field sequential, however; alas, only in 60Hz - how crap is this.
On the other side they also (and exclusively on next generation 3D TFTs to my knowledge) do support checkerboard input (which is nvidia's DLP mode).
However (culprit again!) no Vesa output. So in order to use that you were to get a couple of Samsung's glasses, the nvidia emitter would only work as USB dongle to switch 3D on. Considering the picture processing delay, this was recommendable anyway though.
Still 1920/1080p checkerboard shouild be way better than 1280x720p 3Dplay mode - and if not, you could use it until 3D play comes out. Also, remenber, even though nvidia has announced iot as an payable software for non 3Dvision users, it will come for free for those who have the 3Dvision package... probably this won't get you around the investment of native glasses for your TV....
The Sammies do suport field sequential, however; alas, only in 60Hz - how crap is this.
On the other side they also (and exclusively on next generation 3D TFTs to my knowledge) do support checkerboard input (which is nvidia's DLP mode).
However (culprit again!) no Vesa output. So in order to use that you were to get a couple of Samsung's glasses, the nvidia emitter would only work as USB dongle to switch 3D on. Considering the picture processing delay, this was recommendable anyway though.
Still 1920/1080p checkerboard shouild be way better than 1280x720p 3Dplay mode - and if not, you could use it until 3D play comes out. Also, remenber, even though nvidia has announced iot as an payable software for non 3Dvision users, it will come for free for those who have the 3Dvision package... probably this won't get you around the investment of native glasses for your TV....
The Sammies do suport field sequential, however; alas, only in 60Hz - how crap is this.
On the other side they also (and exclusively on next generation 3D TFTs to my knowledge) do support checkerboard input (which is nvidia's DLP mode).
However (culprit again!) no Vesa output. So in order to use that you were to get a couple of Samsung's glasses, the nvidia emitter would only work as USB dongle to switch 3D on. Considering the picture processing delay, this was recommendable anyway though.
Still 1920/1080p checkerboard shouild be way better than 1280x720p 3Dplay mode - and if not, you could use it until 3D play comes out. Also, remenber, even though nvidia has announced iot as an payable software for non 3Dvision users, it will come for free for those who have the 3Dvision package... probably this won't get you around the investment of native glasses for your TV....
The Sammies do suport field sequential, however; alas, only in 60Hz - how crap is this.
On the other side they also (and exclusively on next generation 3D TFTs to my knowledge) do support checkerboard input (which is nvidia's DLP mode).
However (culprit again!) no Vesa output. So in order to use that you were to get a couple of Samsung's glasses, the nvidia emitter would only work as USB dongle to switch 3D on. Considering the picture processing delay, this was recommendable anyway though.
Still 1920/1080p checkerboard shouild be way better than 1280x720p 3Dplay mode - and if not, you could use it until 3D play comes out. Also, remenber, even though nvidia has announced iot as an payable software for non 3Dvision users, it will come for free for those who have the 3Dvision package... probably this won't get you around the investment of native glasses for your TV....
I know the fundamental principles of stereo3d, what's necessary to get optimal effect ect. I have been wanting a PC compatible 3DTV for many years now but since i live in Europe finding one that works have almost been impossible.
Today i see many brands releasing so called '3D Ready' displays on the swedish market, and i'm glad this trend finally reached here.
But i know how well the TV hardware industry likes to fool us consumers with products that might seem compatible but in fact are not.
The Samsung UE46C8705XS model promises 3D but if i read the specifications it says '100/200Hz Motion Plus'.
Does this mean that you get a max raw update frequency of 100Hz and Motion Plus interpolated 200Hz?
Here is the full spec from the Swedish Samsung site
[url="http://www.samsung.com/se/consumer/tv-home-theatre/tv/led-tv/UE46C8705XSXXE/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detail&tab=spec&fullspec=F"]http://www.samsung.com/se/consumer/tv-home...&fullspec=F[/url] (Ja means Yes, Nej means No if you wonder)
Would such monitor be compatible with Nvidia 3D Vision?
If i check the US Samsung site i find the UN55C7000 model which i can't find on the Swedish market at all, but the spec tell me this display is 'Auto Motion Plus 120/240Hz' so that would mean a maximum raw update frequency of 120Hz right?
Also it seems like Samsung's own active shutters are included with the TV, while the UE46C8705XS model does not include any glasses at all.
As i said, i know many manufactures are cheating to keep us buying new products more often, and this stereo3d trend is really a victim right now. Many people think it's cool but few actually find use for it or even have the proper means to view and enjoy it. Right now i feel 3D gaming is much more potent than movies or regular TV broadcasts, but i really need to sort things out if any of the TV models on the Swedish market actually are fully compatible or even partly compatible.
That's why i need people with true experience to help me with this. People who really know all the traps you might encounter in this new technology trend.
By looking at the specifications i poster can anyone tell if the Samsung UE46C8705XS model is, or could be compatible with Nvidia 3D Vision? Or would the model on the US site more suitable? (Link to the UN55C7000 model)
[url="http://www.samsung.com/us/consumer/tv-video/televisions/led-tv/UN55C7000WFXZA/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detail&tab=spec"]http://www.samsung.com/us/consumer/tv-vide...il&tab=spec[/url]
Any help is appreciated!
I know the fundamental principles of stereo3d, what's necessary to get optimal effect ect. I have been wanting a PC compatible 3DTV for many years now but since i live in Europe finding one that works have almost been impossible.
Today i see many brands releasing so called '3D Ready' displays on the swedish market, and i'm glad this trend finally reached here.
But i know how well the TV hardware industry likes to fool us consumers with products that might seem compatible but in fact are not.
The Samsung UE46C8705XS model promises 3D but if i read the specifications it says '100/200Hz Motion Plus'.
Does this mean that you get a max raw update frequency of 100Hz and Motion Plus interpolated 200Hz?
Here is the full spec from the Swedish Samsung site
http://www.samsung.com/se/consumer/tv-home...&fullspec=F (Ja means Yes, Nej means No if you wonder)
Would such monitor be compatible with Nvidia 3D Vision?
If i check the US Samsung site i find the UN55C7000 model which i can't find on the Swedish market at all, but the spec tell me this display is 'Auto Motion Plus 120/240Hz' so that would mean a maximum raw update frequency of 120Hz right?
Also it seems like Samsung's own active shutters are included with the TV, while the UE46C8705XS model does not include any glasses at all.
As i said, i know many manufactures are cheating to keep us buying new products more often, and this stereo3d trend is really a victim right now. Many people think it's cool but few actually find use for it or even have the proper means to view and enjoy it. Right now i feel 3D gaming is much more potent than movies or regular TV broadcasts, but i really need to sort things out if any of the TV models on the Swedish market actually are fully compatible or even partly compatible.
That's why i need people with true experience to help me with this. People who really know all the traps you might encounter in this new technology trend.
By looking at the specifications i poster can anyone tell if the Samsung UE46C8705XS model is, or could be compatible with Nvidia 3D Vision? Or would the model on the US site more suitable? (Link to the UN55C7000 model)
http://www.samsung.com/us/consumer/tv-vide...il&tab=spec
Any help is appreciated!
The new range of HDTVs (Samsung, Panasonic, Sony, etc...) use different image transmission and glass synchronization systems as nvidia 3D vision.
These TVs are therefore NOT compatible with Nvidia 3D vision : you have to use the TV manufacturer's own brand of glasses with these TVs.
The Nvidia 3D vision driver can produce the 3D picture format for these displays, however this feature is currently locked as Nvidia wants to sell the software support that allows you to play PC games in 3D on these TV in a product called "Nvidia 3DTV play", which will be available sometime this summer and which will cost approximately 40$ according to an Nvidia press release.
The new range of HDTVs (Samsung, Panasonic, Sony, etc...) use different image transmission and glass synchronization systems as nvidia 3D vision.
These TVs are therefore NOT compatible with Nvidia 3D vision : you have to use the TV manufacturer's own brand of glasses with these TVs.
The Nvidia 3D vision driver can produce the 3D picture format for these displays, however this feature is currently locked as Nvidia wants to sell the software support that allows you to play PC games in 3D on these TV in a product called "Nvidia 3DTV play", which will be available sometime this summer and which will cost approximately 40$ according to an Nvidia press release.
Passive 3D forever
110" DIY dual-projection system
2x Epson EH-TW3500 (1080p) + Linear Polarizers (SPAR)
XtremScreen Daylight 2.0
VNS Geobox501 signal converter
they can display games in 3d theoretically
but its very laggy und max 720p
they can display games in 3d theoretically
but its very laggy und max 720p
On the other side they also (and exclusively on next generation 3D TFTs to my knowledge) do support checkerboard input (which is nvidia's DLP mode).
However (culprit again!) no Vesa output. So in order to use that you were to get a couple of Samsung's glasses, the nvidia emitter would only work as USB dongle to switch 3D on. Considering the picture processing delay, this was recommendable anyway though.
Still 1920/1080p checkerboard shouild be way better than 1280x720p 3Dplay mode - and if not, you could use it until 3D play comes out. Also, remenber, even though nvidia has announced iot as an payable software for non 3Dvision users, it will come for free for those who have the 3Dvision package... probably this won't get you around the investment of native glasses for your TV....
On the other side they also (and exclusively on next generation 3D TFTs to my knowledge) do support checkerboard input (which is nvidia's DLP mode).
However (culprit again!) no Vesa output. So in order to use that you were to get a couple of Samsung's glasses, the nvidia emitter would only work as USB dongle to switch 3D on. Considering the picture processing delay, this was recommendable anyway though.
Still 1920/1080p checkerboard shouild be way better than 1280x720p 3Dplay mode - and if not, you could use it until 3D play comes out. Also, remenber, even though nvidia has announced iot as an payable software for non 3Dvision users, it will come for free for those who have the 3Dvision package... probably this won't get you around the investment of native glasses for your TV....
On the other side they also (and exclusively on next generation 3D TFTs to my knowledge) do support checkerboard input (which is nvidia's DLP mode).
However (culprit again!) no Vesa output. So in order to use that you were to get a couple of Samsung's glasses, the nvidia emitter would only work as USB dongle to switch 3D on. Considering the picture processing delay, this was recommendable anyway though.
Still 1920/1080p checkerboard shouild be way better than 1280x720p 3Dplay mode - and if not, you could use it until 3D play comes out. Also, remenber, even though nvidia has announced iot as an payable software for non 3Dvision users, it will come for free for those who have the 3Dvision package... probably this won't get you around the investment of native glasses for your TV....
On the other side they also (and exclusively on next generation 3D TFTs to my knowledge) do support checkerboard input (which is nvidia's DLP mode).
However (culprit again!) no Vesa output. So in order to use that you were to get a couple of Samsung's glasses, the nvidia emitter would only work as USB dongle to switch 3D on. Considering the picture processing delay, this was recommendable anyway though.
Still 1920/1080p checkerboard shouild be way better than 1280x720p 3Dplay mode - and if not, you could use it until 3D play comes out. Also, remenber, even though nvidia has announced iot as an payable software for non 3Dvision users, it will come for free for those who have the 3Dvision package... probably this won't get you around the investment of native glasses for your TV....