Poor 3dvision performance in all Batman Arkham Games
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I have a weird issue. 2 months ago I upgraded my PC/MB from a Phenom 955BE to a FX 8350. This entailed a new MB as well. I kept the same HDD, ram, and Video cards. At the same time I upgraded from Windows 8 to Windows 8.1.
FX 8350
8GB DDR3
660ti
650ti - Physx card
Soundblaster Z
Windows 8.1 x64
Latest Nvidia drivers
Anyway everything has been running great. I completed Metro Redux in 3d with no issues. Have been playing the new Shadow Warrior, Alien Isolation, Tomb Raider 2013 in 3d with performance you would expect given my specs.
The issue is I went to replay Arkham Origins and have found 3d performance is horrible when compared to my old CPU/MB. I am running with the same graphic settings with 1600x900 res. DX11 effects on, No AA and No Vsync. Physx High. This is the same settings I used on my Phenom in 3d.
What is happening is I load up a level and get to a roof top. I then fly and glide off the roof. While flying my FPS takes a drop from around 45-60fps to sub 20fps. My main GPU usage drops to 20,40, sometimes 0%. The game starts jerking like it is having trouble loading assets. Sometimes I even get the spinning loading icon (batman symbol). Even if I land at ground level and wait the framerate stays low until I look straight up and then straight down. Then GPU usage climbs and framerates go back to acceptable levels.
I tried disabling 3d while in game and the framerates/GPU usage issues do not improve. If I exit the game and disable 3d in the control panel and launch the game I get no issues at all. I checked for signs of CPU throttling or overheating and no issues at all.
I then decided to try Arkham City. I loaded up my last save and flew around. Things seemed normal. I then landed in the courthouse and went inside. FPS was around 60. I turned on x-ray vision and the next room over had 10 thugs. My framerate dropped to 18 FPS. I disabled in game 3d. Framerate still 18. I turned off x-ray and went into the room. Frame rate low. Low GPU usage and hitching like in Arkham Origins. Exit the game and run the same level with 3d off in control panel. No issues at all. Solid 60+.
It has been quite a while since I played those games so I do not know what driver version I was on when I played them on the Phenom with no problems. I was a few driver versions so I upgraded to the latest. No improvement in those games. So far the only differences are driver versions, CPU/MB, and the change from Win 8 to Win 8.1.
Any advice?
I have a weird issue. 2 months ago I upgraded my PC/MB from a Phenom 955BE to a FX 8350. This entailed a new MB as well. I kept the same HDD, ram, and Video cards. At the same time I upgraded from Windows 8 to Windows 8.1.
FX 8350
8GB DDR3
660ti
650ti - Physx card
Soundblaster Z
Windows 8.1 x64
Latest Nvidia drivers
Anyway everything has been running great. I completed Metro Redux in 3d with no issues. Have been playing the new Shadow Warrior, Alien Isolation, Tomb Raider 2013 in 3d with performance you would expect given my specs.
The issue is I went to replay Arkham Origins and have found 3d performance is horrible when compared to my old CPU/MB. I am running with the same graphic settings with 1600x900 res. DX11 effects on, No AA and No Vsync. Physx High. This is the same settings I used on my Phenom in 3d.
What is happening is I load up a level and get to a roof top. I then fly and glide off the roof. While flying my FPS takes a drop from around 45-60fps to sub 20fps. My main GPU usage drops to 20,40, sometimes 0%. The game starts jerking like it is having trouble loading assets. Sometimes I even get the spinning loading icon (batman symbol). Even if I land at ground level and wait the framerate stays low until I look straight up and then straight down. Then GPU usage climbs and framerates go back to acceptable levels.
I tried disabling 3d while in game and the framerates/GPU usage issues do not improve. If I exit the game and disable 3d in the control panel and launch the game I get no issues at all. I checked for signs of CPU throttling or overheating and no issues at all.
I then decided to try Arkham City. I loaded up my last save and flew around. Things seemed normal. I then landed in the courthouse and went inside. FPS was around 60. I turned on x-ray vision and the next room over had 10 thugs. My framerate dropped to 18 FPS. I disabled in game 3d. Framerate still 18. I turned off x-ray and went into the room. Frame rate low. Low GPU usage and hitching like in Arkham Origins. Exit the game and run the same level with 3d off in control panel. No issues at all. Solid 60+.
It has been quite a while since I played those games so I do not know what driver version I was on when I played them on the Phenom with no problems. I was a few driver versions so I upgraded to the latest. No improvement in those games. So far the only differences are driver versions, CPU/MB, and the change from Win 8 to Win 8.1.
On further testing it only appears to be Arkham Origins that is having this issue. Unexplainable Framerate drops and poor gpu usage when 3d vision is enabled in Nvidia Control panel. It does not matter if 3d is on or off in the game (CTRL + T). Only performance fix is to disable 3d vision in the Nvidia Control panel.
On further testing it only appears to be Arkham Origins that is having this issue. Unexplainable Framerate drops and poor gpu usage when 3d vision is enabled in Nvidia Control panel. It does not matter if 3d is on or off in the game (CTRL + T). Only performance fix is to disable 3d vision in the Nvidia Control panel.
I bet this is windows 8.1 problem, im downloading the game atm just to test it. And i also noticed fps drops when i was showing how origins looked in 3d to a friend a while back. Dual booting 8.1 and 7 so should be easy and quick test. dl will be complete in an hour.
I bet this is windows 8.1 problem, im downloading the game atm just to test it. And i also noticed fps drops when i was showing how origins looked in 3d to a friend a while back. Dual booting 8.1 and 7 so should be easy and quick test. dl will be complete in an hour.
I got the problem on win 7 and win 8.1 so its not the OS thats causing it. I tried to play with in-game settings too but they didnt help much. Stutter and fps drops to ~30 from solid 60 when entering new area/district. I dont remember getting these at launch when i played the game so have you tried Arkham Origins launch drivers(331.58 WHQL)? I think its worth a try at least.
Test rig: single 980 and 2600k which definitely should keep solid 60 at 720p3d.
I got the problem on win 7 and win 8.1 so its not the OS thats causing it. I tried to play with in-game settings too but they didnt help much. Stutter and fps drops to ~30 from solid 60 when entering new area/district. I dont remember getting these at launch when i played the game so have you tried Arkham Origins launch drivers(331.58 WHQL)? I think its worth a try at least.
Test rig: single 980 and 2600k which definitely should keep solid 60 at 720p3d.
Most likely here is the driver. The latest drivers have been uniquely terrible for 3D. 347.09 in particular broke 3D in a lot of cases. Disabling 3D altogether in the control panel was the symptom.
Best bet is to roll back to older drivers, especially because your cards supports older, much better, drivers.
For playing Batman on that card, I'd go back to 320.49.
https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/777954/suggested-driver-to-use-/
Most likely here is the driver. The latest drivers have been uniquely terrible for 3D. 347.09 in particular broke 3D in a lot of cases. Disabling 3D altogether in the control panel was the symptom.
Best bet is to roll back to older drivers, especially because your cards supports older, much better, drivers.
For playing Batman on that card, I'd go back to 320.49.
[quote="vulcan78"]Revert to 377.88, a solid 20% reduction in performance in Arkham City and Origins has been established with 34X branch of drivers, if you do a little research you will find that 377.88 was the last and best driver for this series. [/quote]
vulcan78 said:Revert to 377.88, a solid 20% reduction in performance in Arkham City and Origins has been established with 34X branch of drivers, if you do a little research you will find that 377.88 was the last and best driver for this series.
100% driver issue. Went back to 337.88 as suggested and all issues went away in the Arkham games. No hitching, low Fps, Low GPU usage. Such a shame. I will keep these installed, at least as long as I play the Batman games. Might upgrade the drivers again for newer games.
100% driver issue. Went back to 337.88 as suggested and all issues went away in the Arkham games. No hitching, low Fps, Low GPU usage. Such a shame. I will keep these installed, at least as long as I play the Batman games. Might upgrade the drivers again for newer games.
Thanks to this thread, I was also able to solve the performance problem of BAO in 3D mode.
I backed down from the latest driver to 337.88 and it runs like a charm. Steady 60 FPS (capped) with everything maxed out @ 1920x1080.
Before this, I had very noticeable texture pop-in after loadingscreens and extreme stuttering during cape-flights and when running through the streets. GPU usage between 60% and 82% and graphic memory at maximum 1180MB (of 3GB).
I was confused because I remembered that the game was running really well with my GTX680 SLI configuration a year ago. So I was expecting an improved performance with my 780ti/680oc combination. Which I have now with the 337.88 Driver.
It's a shame that nVidia pushed 3D Vision that much and now just seems to let it go. I really enjoy 3D, it looks great in the Batman Games, Dead Rising 2, Just Cause 2 and the Witcher 2.
i7 3770k @ 4.5GHz
16GB DDR3
780ti
680oc - Physx card
Windows 8.1 x64
Latest Nvidia drivers
Thanks to this thread, I was also able to solve the performance problem of BAO in 3D mode.
I backed down from the latest driver to 337.88 and it runs like a charm. Steady 60 FPS (capped) with everything maxed out @ 1920x1080.
Before this, I had very noticeable texture pop-in after loadingscreens and extreme stuttering during cape-flights and when running through the streets. GPU usage between 60% and 82% and graphic memory at maximum 1180MB (of 3GB).
I was confused because I remembered that the game was running really well with my GTX680 SLI configuration a year ago. So I was expecting an improved performance with my 780ti/680oc combination. Which I have now with the 337.88 Driver.
It's a shame that nVidia pushed 3D Vision that much and now just seems to let it go. I really enjoy 3D, it looks great in the Batman Games, Dead Rising 2, Just Cause 2 and the Witcher 2.
Well since Arkham Knight is a cluster f***, I have decided to play through Origins in 3d again.
Game runs at very high framerate in 2d no stuttering no problem. 120 hz or so.
Once in 3D, lots of stuttering as you are gliding and flying around, drops to the 30's and back up. When on the ground and fighting etc framerate is steady and no stutter. No problem inside building as well. It's only when flying around.
I'm on the latest drivers. Solution above says to revert back to 337.88 but I can't find this driver and is there another solution?
Thanks
5960x 16gb ram gtx 980.
Well since Arkham Knight is a cluster f***, I have decided to play through Origins in 3d again.
Game runs at very high framerate in 2d no stuttering no problem. 120 hz or so.
Once in 3D, lots of stuttering as you are gliding and flying around, drops to the 30's and back up. When on the ground and fighting etc framerate is steady and no stutter. No problem inside building as well. It's only when flying around.
I'm on the latest drivers. Solution above says to revert back to 337.88 but I can't find this driver and is there another solution?
Thanks
5960x 16gb ram gtx 980.
Intel 5960x, Asus RVE, 16 Gb Ram
Gtx 980
Samsung 850 pro 1TB
Win 10 64
[quote=""]Well since Arkham Knight is a cluster f***, I have decided to play through Origins in 3d again.
Game runs at very high framerate in 2d no stuttering no problem. 120 hz or so.
Once in 3D, lots of stuttering as you are gliding and flying around, drops to the 30's and back up. When on the ground and fighting etc framerate is steady and no stutter. No problem inside building as well. It's only when flying around.
I'm on the latest drivers. Solution above says to revert back to 337.88 but I can't find this driver and is there another solution?
Thanks
5960x 16gb ram gtx 980. [/quote]
The 'reverting to old drivers' solution mentioned above is probably not a fool-proof solution regardless. The Arkham games, including Origins, are the most frequently played titles on my system. I have playing time logged in all three games (B:AA, B:AC, and B:AO) using the 350.. driver and I am not having any framerate issues whatsoever, gliding or otherwise. While changing drivers may help for some people, the problem evidently goes deeper than that.
Main culprits I would look at are:
A) What OS? (8.1 borks up a lot of games)
B) Game installed to HDD or an SSD? (Seems like the problem with gliding would be texture streaming, which would be slowed down if the game is running off an HDD)
said:Well since Arkham Knight is a cluster f***, I have decided to play through Origins in 3d again.
Game runs at very high framerate in 2d no stuttering no problem. 120 hz or so.
Once in 3D, lots of stuttering as you are gliding and flying around, drops to the 30's and back up. When on the ground and fighting etc framerate is steady and no stutter. No problem inside building as well. It's only when flying around.
I'm on the latest drivers. Solution above says to revert back to 337.88 but I can't find this driver and is there another solution?
Thanks
5960x 16gb ram gtx 980.
The 'reverting to old drivers' solution mentioned above is probably not a fool-proof solution regardless. The Arkham games, including Origins, are the most frequently played titles on my system. I have playing time logged in all three games (B:AA, B:AC, and B:AO) using the 350.. driver and I am not having any framerate issues whatsoever, gliding or otherwise. While changing drivers may help for some people, the problem evidently goes deeper than that.
Main culprits I would look at are:
A) What OS? (8.1 borks up a lot of games)
B) Game installed to HDD or an SSD? (Seems like the problem with gliding would be texture streaming, which would be slowed down if the game is running off an HDD)
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FX 8350
8GB DDR3
660ti
650ti - Physx card
Soundblaster Z
Windows 8.1 x64
Latest Nvidia drivers
Anyway everything has been running great. I completed Metro Redux in 3d with no issues. Have been playing the new Shadow Warrior, Alien Isolation, Tomb Raider 2013 in 3d with performance you would expect given my specs.
The issue is I went to replay Arkham Origins and have found 3d performance is horrible when compared to my old CPU/MB. I am running with the same graphic settings with 1600x900 res. DX11 effects on, No AA and No Vsync. Physx High. This is the same settings I used on my Phenom in 3d.
What is happening is I load up a level and get to a roof top. I then fly and glide off the roof. While flying my FPS takes a drop from around 45-60fps to sub 20fps. My main GPU usage drops to 20,40, sometimes 0%. The game starts jerking like it is having trouble loading assets. Sometimes I even get the spinning loading icon (batman symbol). Even if I land at ground level and wait the framerate stays low until I look straight up and then straight down. Then GPU usage climbs and framerates go back to acceptable levels.
I tried disabling 3d while in game and the framerates/GPU usage issues do not improve. If I exit the game and disable 3d in the control panel and launch the game I get no issues at all. I checked for signs of CPU throttling or overheating and no issues at all.
I then decided to try Arkham City. I loaded up my last save and flew around. Things seemed normal. I then landed in the courthouse and went inside. FPS was around 60. I turned on x-ray vision and the next room over had 10 thugs. My framerate dropped to 18 FPS. I disabled in game 3d. Framerate still 18. I turned off x-ray and went into the room. Frame rate low. Low GPU usage and hitching like in Arkham Origins. Exit the game and run the same level with 3d off in control panel. No issues at all. Solid 60+.
It has been quite a while since I played those games so I do not know what driver version I was on when I played them on the Phenom with no problems. I was a few driver versions so I upgraded to the latest. No improvement in those games. So far the only differences are driver versions, CPU/MB, and the change from Win 8 to Win 8.1.
Any advice?
AMD FX-8350 4GHz
Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3 Rev 4.0
G-Skill PC3-10700- 16GB
Gigabyte Windforce GTX 1060 OC 6GB - 417.01
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ViewSonic VX2268WM Black 22" 1680x1050 5ms 120Hz 3Dvision
Windows 10 x64 1709
AMD FX-8350 4GHz
Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3 Rev 4.0
G-Skill PC3-10700- 16GB
Gigabyte Windforce GTX 1060 OC 6GB - 417.01
Creative Soundblaster Z
ViewSonic VX2268WM Black 22" 1680x1050 5ms 120Hz 3Dvision
Windows 10 x64 1709
AMD FX-8350 4GHz
Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3 Rev 4.0
G-Skill PC3-10700- 16GB
Gigabyte Windforce GTX 1060 OC 6GB - 417.01
Creative Soundblaster Z
ViewSonic VX2268WM Black 22" 1680x1050 5ms 120Hz 3Dvision
Windows 10 x64 1709
Test rig: single 980 and 2600k which definitely should keep solid 60 at 720p3d.
AMD FX-8350 4GHz
Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3 Rev 4.0
G-Skill PC3-10700- 16GB
Gigabyte Windforce GTX 1060 OC 6GB - 417.01
Creative Soundblaster Z
ViewSonic VX2268WM Black 22" 1680x1050 5ms 120Hz 3Dvision
Windows 10 x64 1709
Best bet is to roll back to older drivers, especially because your cards supports older, much better, drivers.
For playing Batman on that card, I'd go back to 320.49.
https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/777954/suggested-driver-to-use-/
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G-Skill PC3-10700- 16GB
Gigabyte Windforce GTX 1060 OC 6GB - 417.01
Creative Soundblaster Z
ViewSonic VX2268WM Black 22" 1680x1050 5ms 120Hz 3Dvision
Windows 10 x64 1709
I backed down from the latest driver to 337.88 and it runs like a charm. Steady 60 FPS (capped) with everything maxed out @ 1920x1080.
Before this, I had very noticeable texture pop-in after loadingscreens and extreme stuttering during cape-flights and when running through the streets. GPU usage between 60% and 82% and graphic memory at maximum 1180MB (of 3GB).
I was confused because I remembered that the game was running really well with my GTX680 SLI configuration a year ago. So I was expecting an improved performance with my 780ti/680oc combination. Which I have now with the 337.88 Driver.
It's a shame that nVidia pushed 3D Vision that much and now just seems to let it go. I really enjoy 3D, it looks great in the Batman Games, Dead Rising 2, Just Cause 2 and the Witcher 2.
i7 3770k @ 4.5GHz
16GB DDR3
780ti
680oc - Physx card
Windows 8.1 x64
Latest Nvidia drivers
Game runs at very high framerate in 2d no stuttering no problem. 120 hz or so.
Once in 3D, lots of stuttering as you are gliding and flying around, drops to the 30's and back up. When on the ground and fighting etc framerate is steady and no stutter. No problem inside building as well. It's only when flying around.
I'm on the latest drivers. Solution above says to revert back to 337.88 but I can't find this driver and is there another solution?
Thanks
5960x 16gb ram gtx 980.
Intel 5960x, Asus RVE, 16 Gb Ram
Gtx 980
Samsung 850 pro 1TB
Win 10 64
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The 'reverting to old drivers' solution mentioned above is probably not a fool-proof solution regardless. The Arkham games, including Origins, are the most frequently played titles on my system. I have playing time logged in all three games (B:AA, B:AC, and B:AO) using the 350.. driver and I am not having any framerate issues whatsoever, gliding or otherwise. While changing drivers may help for some people, the problem evidently goes deeper than that.
Main culprits I would look at are:
A) What OS? (8.1 borks up a lot of games)
B) Game installed to HDD or an SSD? (Seems like the problem with gliding would be texture streaming, which would be slowed down if the game is running off an HDD)
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