Recently built a PC with a GTX 780 that's connected to a Sony LED Smart TV using HDMI. The TV is a 120Hz but not a 3D TV. Can I run Nvidia 3D vision 2 on it? Any special requirements like an HDMI 1.4 cable or anything like that? Thanks.
Link to TV: http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/sony-sony-32-1080p-120hz-led-smart-tv-kdl32w650a-kdl32w650a/10245468.aspx?path=1e13ce5c78a7ad66332edd13d369ef72en02
Recently built a PC with a GTX 780 that's connected to a Sony LED Smart TV using HDMI. The TV is a 120Hz but not a 3D TV. Can I run Nvidia 3D vision 2 on it? Any special requirements like an HDMI 1.4 cable or anything like that? Thanks.
It's not actually 120 or 240 hz, it's just creating fake frames in between the real ones, of which there are 60. It's really just a 60hz TV. Sorry dude, marketing bullshit.
It's not actually 120 or 240 hz, it's just creating fake frames in between the real ones, of which there are 60. It's really just a 60hz TV. Sorry dude, marketing bullshit.
It'll still show a higher framerate than what comes in from the input, I quite like that look personally.
As for 3d though, it's not going to work. 120hz is a requirement, but that's for monitors connected via DVI, and even then it needs to be 3d vision certified. 3d over HDMI is an entirely different beast.
It'll still show a higher framerate than what comes in from the input, I quite like that look personally.
As for 3d though, it's not going to work. 120hz is a requirement, but that's for monitors connected via DVI, and even then it needs to be 3d vision certified. 3d over HDMI is an entirely different beast.
[quote="f3likx"]It's not actually 120 or 240 hz, it's just creating fake frames in between the real ones[/quote]duplicate frames? Or some sort of automatically generated blended frames?
That's pretty amazing that it can do it real time. The last time I heard about that sort of tech, it was in the context of video editing about 15 years ago, and it would take all night to create the new frames for an hour of footage.
I'm sure I'd be a fan of it too, Pirate. I can't stand the 24 fps of movies.
I'm sure it's old news, but I'm not a TV person. I don't watch much TV or movies. We don't even have a flat screen TV yet; just a 4:3 CRT that my friend found on the side of the road. It's still 1994 in our living room :-D
That's pretty amazing that it can do it real time. The last time I heard about that sort of tech, it was in the context of video editing about 15 years ago, and it would take all night to create the new frames for an hour of footage.
I'm sure I'd be a fan of it too, Pirate. I can't stand the 24 fps of movies.
I'm sure it's old news, but I'm not a TV person. I don't watch much TV or movies. We don't even have a flat screen TV yet; just a 4:3 CRT that my friend found on the side of the road. It's still 1994 in our living room :-D
I'm also a huge fan of Smooth Video Project, aka frame interpolation on your PC. Basically if you have a 3D gaming PC, you can use SVP for 2D. It makes 2D video look much more real thanks to more life-like motion.
Don't worry about the "soap opera effect." Literally it refers to soap operas, which you've never seen anyway, so don't worry about that. To be practical, it refers to the period of unease transitioning from artificially slow 24fps video to more natural 60fps video. It's slightly weird at first, but you'll be more sane once you get used to it.
I'm also a huge fan of Smooth Video Project, aka frame interpolation on your PC. Basically if you have a 3D gaming PC, you can use SVP for 2D. It makes 2D video look much more real thanks to more life-like motion.
Don't worry about the "soap opera effect." Literally it refers to soap operas, which you've never seen anyway, so don't worry about that. To be practical, it refers to the period of unease transitioning from artificially slow 24fps video to more natural 60fps video. It's slightly weird at first, but you'll be more sane once you get used to it.
The last thing I could not stand with 24 FPS movies is the strobing effect when a camera scrolls across sceneries. Motion interpolation has great benefits by eliminating those effects.
But yeah, it would be really sweet if manufacturers have a way for consumers to access the extra Hz on those 120hz HDTV sets.
As for non-3D TVs, a universal 3D add-on kit could probably work, but I don't think such accessory exist in the current market, not since the SegaScope 3D for the Sega Master System which would work on any ordinary TV sets.
The last thing I could not stand with 24 FPS movies is the strobing effect when a camera scrolls across sceneries. Motion interpolation has great benefits by eliminating those effects.
But yeah, it would be really sweet if manufacturers have a way for consumers to access the extra Hz on those 120hz HDTV sets.
As for non-3D TVs, a universal 3D add-on kit could probably work, but I don't think such accessory exist in the current market, not since the SegaScope 3D for the Sega Master System which would work on any ordinary TV sets.
Thanks for the help guys, interesting I never knew that before. So am I really limited to LCD monitors to get this to work? All the 3D ready LCD monitors I've seen so far are considerably smaller than what I'm looking for, any suggestions? or even better a TV that would do the trick around 32"?
Thanks for the help guys, interesting I never knew that before. So am I really limited to LCD monitors to get this to work? All the 3D ready LCD monitors I've seen so far are considerably smaller than what I'm looking for, any suggestions? or even better a TV that would do the trick around 32"?
[quote="Airion"]Don't worry about the "soap opera effect." Literally it refers to soap operas, which you've never seen anyway, so don't worry about that. To be practical, it refers to the period of unease transitioning from artificially slow 24fps video to more natural 60fps video. It's slightly weird at first, but you'll be more sane once you get used to it.[/quote]I might be wrong, but I'm assuming that the "soap opera effect" refers to how film and expensive TV shows were shot using 24fps film, whereas cheap TV shows like soap operas were shot using 30fps video. Some people can't see much difference, but it always stuck out to me, since I was a kid.
The problem is that, despite having a superior framerate, soap operas also had lots of cheap attributes, like low depth of field, uninspired camera movement, cramped compositions, and overzealous lighting (resulting in a flat, shadowless look). So when some people see the superior 30fps, their mind automatically associates it with the cheapness of those other things.
But we're PC gamers, so this is all irrelevant to us. For us, both 24fps and 30fps are crap, because we're used to 60fps or higher. We're probably more likely to think of our games when we see fluid motion, not soap operas. For us, this "soap opera effect" should be renamed to something more positive, like the "Crysis effect" :)
[quote="Cesar"]The last thing I could not stand with 24 FPS movies is the strobing effect when a camera scrolls across sceneries. Motion interpolation has great benefits by eliminating those effects.[/quote]Totally! Camera pans are so jerky in film it's not funny. It used to really annoy me at the cinema, even before I ever had my first hardcore gaming PC or had heard of fraps.
Airion said:Don't worry about the "soap opera effect." Literally it refers to soap operas, which you've never seen anyway, so don't worry about that. To be practical, it refers to the period of unease transitioning from artificially slow 24fps video to more natural 60fps video. It's slightly weird at first, but you'll be more sane once you get used to it.
I might be wrong, but I'm assuming that the "soap opera effect" refers to how film and expensive TV shows were shot using 24fps film, whereas cheap TV shows like soap operas were shot using 30fps video. Some people can't see much difference, but it always stuck out to me, since I was a kid.
The problem is that, despite having a superior framerate, soap operas also had lots of cheap attributes, like low depth of field, uninspired camera movement, cramped compositions, and overzealous lighting (resulting in a flat, shadowless look). So when some people see the superior 30fps, their mind automatically associates it with the cheapness of those other things.
But we're PC gamers, so this is all irrelevant to us. For us, both 24fps and 30fps are crap, because we're used to 60fps or higher. We're probably more likely to think of our games when we see fluid motion, not soap operas. For us, this "soap opera effect" should be renamed to something more positive, like the "Crysis effect" :)
Cesar said:The last thing I could not stand with 24 FPS movies is the strobing effect when a camera scrolls across sceneries. Motion interpolation has great benefits by eliminating those effects.
Totally! Camera pans are so jerky in film it's not funny. It used to really annoy me at the cinema, even before I ever had my first hardcore gaming PC or had heard of fraps.
Link to TV: http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/sony-sony-32-1080p-120hz-led-smart-tv-kdl32w650a-kdl32w650a/10245468.aspx?path=1e13ce5c78a7ad66332edd13d369ef72en02
As for 3d though, it's not going to work. 120hz is a requirement, but that's for monitors connected via DVI, and even then it needs to be 3d vision certified. 3d over HDMI is an entirely different beast.
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I'm sure I'd be a fan of it too, Pirate. I can't stand the 24 fps of movies.
I'm sure it's old news, but I'm not a TV person. I don't watch much TV or movies. We don't even have a flat screen TV yet; just a 4:3 CRT that my friend found on the side of the road. It's still 1994 in our living room :-D
http://www.cnet.com/au/news/fake-refresh-rates-is-your-tv-really-120hz/
Don't worry about the "soap opera effect." Literally it refers to soap operas, which you've never seen anyway, so don't worry about that. To be practical, it refers to the period of unease transitioning from artificially slow 24fps video to more natural 60fps video. It's slightly weird at first, but you'll be more sane once you get used to it.
But yeah, it would be really sweet if manufacturers have a way for consumers to access the extra Hz on those 120hz HDTV sets.
As for non-3D TVs, a universal 3D add-on kit could probably work, but I don't think such accessory exist in the current market, not since the SegaScope 3D for the Sega Master System which would work on any ordinary TV sets.
The problem is that, despite having a superior framerate, soap operas also had lots of cheap attributes, like low depth of field, uninspired camera movement, cramped compositions, and overzealous lighting (resulting in a flat, shadowless look). So when some people see the superior 30fps, their mind automatically associates it with the cheapness of those other things.
But we're PC gamers, so this is all irrelevant to us. For us, both 24fps and 30fps are crap, because we're used to 60fps or higher. We're probably more likely to think of our games when we see fluid motion, not soap operas. For us, this "soap opera effect" should be renamed to something more positive, like the "Crysis effect" :)
Totally! Camera pans are so jerky in film it's not funny. It used to really annoy me at the cinema, even before I ever had my first hardcore gaming PC or had heard of fraps.