I know that a lot of people is talking shit about Windows 8.1 but it´s not that bad. I did like the interface more in Windows 7 but it´s still nice to use in 8.1. And it will get better, Microsoft already said that they will make the startbutton better. And the best thing over windows 7 is that 8.1 performs better in game and is A LOT faster overall:)
In my oppinion there is really no reason not to go with 8.1 if you´re capable of learning since it will of course be different in the beginning.
I know that a lot of people is talking shit about Windows 8.1 but it´s not that bad. I did like the interface more in Windows 7 but it´s still nice to use in 8.1. And it will get better, Microsoft already said that they will make the startbutton better. And the best thing over windows 7 is that 8.1 performs better in game and is A LOT faster overall:)
In my oppinion there is really no reason not to go with 8.1 if you´re capable of learning since it will of course be different in the beginning.
[quote="Milamber*"]Thanks AffableRumble23, I currently use Windows 8.1 and I dont mind it, I was more concerned about 3d performance.[/quote]
Yeah that´s another thing to think about I suppose. Is it better in Win 7 ?
XPsp3, win7, win8. After xp all seems going downward. Might need an explanation. During xp developers tried constanly to improve their products. Now they strip everything into shitty pieces in order to make as much money as possible. It's a timetrend so it has really nothing to do with op-systems.
XPsp3, win7, win8. After xp all seems going downward. Might need an explanation. During xp developers tried constanly to improve their products. Now they strip everything into shitty pieces in order to make as much money as possible. It's a timetrend so it has really nothing to do with op-systems.
[quote="Likay"]XPsp3, win7, win8. After xp all seems going downward. Might need an explanation. During xp developers tried constanly to improve their products. Now they strip everything into shitty pieces in order to make as much money as possible. It's a timetrend so it has really nothing to do with op-systems.[/quote]
I'm not sure how you can expect people to agree with that opinion, since Win7 is a substantial improvement over XP in so many measurable ways.
It's faster, its search functionality is superior and more complete. It boots up much quicker. The UI is smarter and more efficient. It gets rid of the irritating nanny-state popups and balloons that plagued XP, and is much more considerate of the user. It looks slick, whereas XP looked like it was designed by a 5 year old. Where XP clogged resources with unused services, Win7 efficiently disables them. Finally, there's DirectX11, which not only offers new features, but is more efficient overall.
Which of these many objective improvements qualify as 'not improving their products' to you?
And Windows 8 might be crap, but they clearly spent a lot of time coming up with new stuff and redesigning the core experience. That hardly amounts to "stripping everything" for a quick cash grab.
Likay said:XPsp3, win7, win8. After xp all seems going downward. Might need an explanation. During xp developers tried constanly to improve their products. Now they strip everything into shitty pieces in order to make as much money as possible. It's a timetrend so it has really nothing to do with op-systems.
I'm not sure how you can expect people to agree with that opinion, since Win7 is a substantial improvement over XP in so many measurable ways.
It's faster, its search functionality is superior and more complete. It boots up much quicker. The UI is smarter and more efficient. It gets rid of the irritating nanny-state popups and balloons that plagued XP, and is much more considerate of the user. It looks slick, whereas XP looked like it was designed by a 5 year old. Where XP clogged resources with unused services, Win7 efficiently disables them. Finally, there's DirectX11, which not only offers new features, but is more efficient overall.
Which of these many objective improvements qualify as 'not improving their products' to you?
And Windows 8 might be crap, but they clearly spent a lot of time coming up with new stuff and redesigning the core experience. That hardly amounts to "stripping everything" for a quick cash grab.
Well, I think it's always more interesting to frame the question as to "[i]should[/i] you upgrade?"
We know that 3D Vision tends to lag latest updates, the latest drivers for example disable Surround. So there is a very real 3D cost to upgrading. You might or might not have problems, but this is why I think it's helpful to flip the question and ask, "what about 8.0 or 8.1 is worth switching for?"
Performance might be one reason, but it's not faster:
[url]http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/windows-8-gaming-performance,3331.html[/url]
Compatibility might be another, but it's got worse compatibility as I noted before. I'm not "talking shit" about 8.1, it's factually accurate to say that DXGI introduced a bug that blows up SweetFX and 3Dmigoto. Maybe that's not important to you personally, but it's still true.
The only drivers that work under 8.1 also disable Surround.
Upgrading to 8.0 or 8.1 is certainly not terrible, but 3D tends to be a little tweaky and fragile, and you are nearly guaranteeing that you are going to have some weird problems to solve, or be blocked in playing something in 3D.
Everyone has different reasons, all I'm saying is that it should be a conscious decision based on what is most important to you, not what is newest. Especially with software, newest is not necessarily better, a lot of times it's just different.
So, I'll ask again: What is there in 8.0 or 8.1 that you find so compelling that it is worth the upgrade?
Well, I think it's always more interesting to frame the question as to "should you upgrade?"
We know that 3D Vision tends to lag latest updates, the latest drivers for example disable Surround. So there is a very real 3D cost to upgrading. You might or might not have problems, but this is why I think it's helpful to flip the question and ask, "what about 8.0 or 8.1 is worth switching for?"
Performance might be one reason, but it's not faster:
Compatibility might be another, but it's got worse compatibility as I noted before. I'm not "talking shit" about 8.1, it's factually accurate to say that DXGI introduced a bug that blows up SweetFX and 3Dmigoto. Maybe that's not important to you personally, but it's still true.
The only drivers that work under 8.1 also disable Surround.
Upgrading to 8.0 or 8.1 is certainly not terrible, but 3D tends to be a little tweaky and fragile, and you are nearly guaranteeing that you are going to have some weird problems to solve, or be blocked in playing something in 3D.
Everyone has different reasons, all I'm saying is that it should be a conscious decision based on what is most important to you, not what is newest. Especially with software, newest is not necessarily better, a lot of times it's just different.
So, I'll ask again: What is there in 8.0 or 8.1 that you find so compelling that it is worth the upgrade?
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[quote="bo3b"]Well, I think it's always more interesting to frame the question as to "[i]should[/i] you upgrade?"
We know that 3D Vision tends to lag latest updates, the latest drivers for example disable Surround.
...........
[/quote]
I've seen this before....in other posts... Can someone, please clarify how is Surround disabled?
I am running the latest drivers (on Win7x64) and 3D Surround works perfectly for me.... So I am wondering what are you guys referring to...
Can someone shed any light?
bo3b said:Well, I think it's always more interesting to frame the question as to "should you upgrade?"
We know that 3D Vision tends to lag latest updates, the latest drivers for example disable Surround.
...........
I've seen this before....in other posts... Can someone, please clarify how is Surround disabled?
I am running the latest drivers (on Win7x64) and 3D Surround works perfectly for me.... So I am wondering what are you guys referring to...
Can someone shed any light?
1x Palit RTX 2080Ti Pro Gaming OC(watercooled and overclocked to hell)
3x 3D Vision Ready Asus VG278HE monitors (5760x1080).
Intel i9 9900K (overclocked to 5.3 and watercooled ofc).
Asus Maximus XI Hero Mobo.
16 GB Team Group T-Force Dark Pro DDR4 @ 3600.
Lots of Disks:
- Raid 0 - 256GB Sandisk Extreme SSD.
- Raid 0 - WD Black - 2TB.
- SanDisk SSD PLUS 480 GB.
- Intel 760p 256GB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD.
Creative Sound Blaster Z.
Windows 10 x64 Pro.
etc
My 3D Vision Gallery
Helix 3D Fixes
Win 7 x64
i7 4960X Extreme Edition
MSI Big Bang XPower II
2x EVGA Titan Z
Silverstone Evo 1200w
In my oppinion there is really no reason not to go with 8.1 if you´re capable of learning since it will of course be different in the beginning.
My 3D Vision Gallery
Helix 3D Fixes
Win 7 x64
i7 4960X Extreme Edition
MSI Big Bang XPower II
2x EVGA Titan Z
Silverstone Evo 1200w
i5 2500K/16gb/GTX 970/Asus VG278H + Sony HMZ-T1
Yeah that´s another thing to think about I suppose. Is it better in Win 7 ?
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Stereodrivers: Iz3d & Tridef ignition and nvidia old school.
I'm not sure how you can expect people to agree with that opinion, since Win7 is a substantial improvement over XP in so many measurable ways.
It's faster, its search functionality is superior and more complete. It boots up much quicker. The UI is smarter and more efficient. It gets rid of the irritating nanny-state popups and balloons that plagued XP, and is much more considerate of the user. It looks slick, whereas XP looked like it was designed by a 5 year old. Where XP clogged resources with unused services, Win7 efficiently disables them. Finally, there's DirectX11, which not only offers new features, but is more efficient overall.
Which of these many objective improvements qualify as 'not improving their products' to you?
And Windows 8 might be crap, but they clearly spent a lot of time coming up with new stuff and redesigning the core experience. That hardly amounts to "stripping everything" for a quick cash grab.
Gigabyte Z370 Gaming 7 32GB Ram i9-9900K GigaByte Aorus Extreme Gaming 2080TI (single) Game Blaster Z Windows 10 X64 build #17763.195 Define R6 Blackout Case Corsair H110i GTX Sandisk 1TB (OS) SanDisk 2TB SSD (Games) Seagate EXOs 8 and 12 TB drives Samsung UN46c7000 HD TV Samsung UN55HU9000 UHD TVCurrently using ACER PASSIVE EDID override on 3D TVs LG 55
We know that 3D Vision tends to lag latest updates, the latest drivers for example disable Surround. So there is a very real 3D cost to upgrading. You might or might not have problems, but this is why I think it's helpful to flip the question and ask, "what about 8.0 or 8.1 is worth switching for?"
Performance might be one reason, but it's not faster:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/windows-8-gaming-performance,3331.html
Compatibility might be another, but it's got worse compatibility as I noted before. I'm not "talking shit" about 8.1, it's factually accurate to say that DXGI introduced a bug that blows up SweetFX and 3Dmigoto. Maybe that's not important to you personally, but it's still true.
The only drivers that work under 8.1 also disable Surround.
Upgrading to 8.0 or 8.1 is certainly not terrible, but 3D tends to be a little tweaky and fragile, and you are nearly guaranteeing that you are going to have some weird problems to solve, or be blocked in playing something in 3D.
Everyone has different reasons, all I'm saying is that it should be a conscious decision based on what is most important to you, not what is newest. Especially with software, newest is not necessarily better, a lot of times it's just different.
So, I'll ask again: What is there in 8.0 or 8.1 that you find so compelling that it is worth the upgrade?
Acer H5360 (1280x720@120Hz) - ASUS VG248QE with GSync mod - 3D Vision 1&2 - Driver 372.54
GTX 970 - i5-4670K@4.2GHz - 12GB RAM - Win7x64+evilKB2670838 - 4 Disk X25 RAID
SAGER NP9870-S - GTX 980 - i7-6700K - Win10 Pro 1607
Latest 3Dmigoto Release
Bo3b's School for ShaderHackers
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|Monitors: Asus 3D VG278HE; Asus 3D VG236H; Samsung 3D 51" Plasma;
|GPU:MSI 1080GTX "Duke"
|OS: Windows 10 Pro X64
I've seen this before....in other posts... Can someone, please clarify how is Surround disabled?
I am running the latest drivers (on Win7x64) and 3D Surround works perfectly for me.... So I am wondering what are you guys referring to...
Can someone shed any light?
1x Palit RTX 2080Ti Pro Gaming OC(watercooled and overclocked to hell)
3x 3D Vision Ready Asus VG278HE monitors (5760x1080).
Intel i9 9900K (overclocked to 5.3 and watercooled ofc).
Asus Maximus XI Hero Mobo.
16 GB Team Group T-Force Dark Pro DDR4 @ 3600.
Lots of Disks:
- Raid 0 - 256GB Sandisk Extreme SSD.
- Raid 0 - WD Black - 2TB.
- SanDisk SSD PLUS 480 GB.
- Intel 760p 256GB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD.
Creative Sound Blaster Z.
Windows 10 x64 Pro.
etc
My website with my fixes and OpenGL to 3D Vision wrapper:
http://3dsurroundgaming.com
(If you like some of the stuff that I've done and want to donate something, you can do it with PayPal at tavyhome@gmail.com)