Getting the most out of GTAV performance/image quality
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[quote="Muojo"]Do you just install it by moving it to the install folder and clicking on the exe? [/quote] Just click on the exe, no need to move it anywhere. [quote="lou4612"]You guys need to read into modding gtav...and installing the basic tools like openiv and creating a mods folder The NOINTRO mod I posted is an OIV file which needs to be installed via OpenIV. Go to package installer and pick the NOIntro OIV needs to be installed to mod folder. I don’t recommend installing it any other way[/quote] I was into modding, but it was back in GTA Vice City times :) I used OpenIV to install your QuantV_nointro.oiv of course, but was missing creating the mods folder and installing ASI Loader and OpenIV.ASI steps. Now it works. Here's a guide for those who also don't know how to do it [url]https://www.modding-forum.com/guide/6-creating-a-mods-folder/[/url]
Muojo said:Do you just install it by moving it to the install folder and clicking on the exe?

Just click on the exe, no need to move it anywhere.

lou4612 said:You guys need to read into modding gtav...and installing the basic tools like openiv and creating a mods folder
The NOINTRO mod I posted is an OIV file which needs to be installed via OpenIV.
Go to package installer and pick the NOIntro OIV needs to be installed to mod folder.
I don’t recommend installing it any other way

I was into modding, but it was back in GTA Vice City times :) I used OpenIV to install your QuantV_nointro.oiv of course, but was missing creating the mods folder and installing ASI Loader and OpenIV.ASI steps. Now it works. Here's a guide for those who also don't know how to do it https://www.modding-forum.com/guide/6-creating-a-mods-folder/

#16
Posted 03/14/2019 01:03 PM   
[quote="lou4612"]I felt this thread is needed for GTAV as the original 92 page thread is just too much to sort through and keeps getting buried...alot of people are under the impression you can just click away on ultra settings and run GTAV in 3D Vision to get the best image but wonder why they get such low performance as compared to running it in 2D. [/quote] Man I tried those settings, no luck. I'll see if 1440p makes a difference when I get home but nothing I've tried so far helps. Frames inside shoot up and I think i get a little more GPU utilization inside (need to check again) but once I step outside, everything frops to 24 to 30 fps. Its like the wider the area the less GPU usage i get
lou4612 said:I felt this thread is needed for GTAV as the original 92 page thread is just too much to sort through and keeps getting buried...alot of people are under the impression you can just click away on ultra settings and run GTAV in 3D Vision to get the best image but wonder why they get such low performance as compared to running it in 2D.



Man I tried those settings, no luck. I'll see if 1440p makes a difference when I get home but nothing I've tried so far helps. Frames inside shoot up and I think i get a little more GPU utilization inside (need to check again) but once I step outside, everything frops to 24 to 30 fps. Its like the wider the area the less GPU usage i get

#17
Posted 03/14/2019 03:05 PM   
[quote="Muojo"][quote="lou4612"]I felt this thread is needed for GTAV as the original 92 page thread is just too much to sort through and keeps getting buried...alot of people are under the impression you can just click away on ultra settings and run GTAV in 3D Vision to get the best image but wonder why they get such low performance as compared to running it in 2D. [/quote] Man I tried those settings, no luck. I'll see if 1440p makes a difference when I get home but nothing I've tried so far helps. Frames inside shoot up and I think i get a little more GPU utilization inside (need to check again) but once I step outside, everything frops to 24 to 30 fps. Its like the wider the area the less GPU usage i get[/quote] What’s your hardware and Operating System?
Muojo said:
lou4612 said:I felt this thread is needed for GTAV as the original 92 page thread is just too much to sort through and keeps getting buried...alot of people are under the impression you can just click away on ultra settings and run GTAV in 3D Vision to get the best image but wonder why they get such low performance as compared to running it in 2D.



Man I tried those settings, no luck. I'll see if 1440p makes a difference when I get home but nothing I've tried so far helps. Frames inside shoot up and I think i get a little more GPU utilization inside (need to check again) but once I step outside, everything frops to 24 to 30 fps. Its like the wider the area the less GPU usage i get


What’s your hardware and Operating System?

Gaming Rig 1

i7 5820K 3.3ghz (Stock Clock)
GTX 1080 Founders Edition (Stock Clock)
16GB DDR4 2400 RAM
512 SAMSUNG 840 PRO

Gaming Rig 2
My new build

Asus Maximus X Hero Z370
MSI Gaming X 1080Ti (2100 mhz OC Watercooled)
8700k (4.7ghz OC Watercooled)
16gb DDR4 3000 Ram
500GB SAMSUNG 860 EVO SERIES SSD M.2

#18
Posted 03/14/2019 04:52 PM   
[quote="lou4612"][quote="Muojo"][quote="lou4612"]I felt this thread is needed for GTAV as the original 92 page thread is just too much to sort through and keeps getting buried...alot of people are under the impression you can just click away on ultra settings and run GTAV in 3D Vision to get the best image but wonder why they get such low performance as compared to running it in 2D. [/quote] Man I tried those settings, no luck. I'll see if 1440p makes a difference when I get home but nothing I've tried so far helps. Frames inside shoot up and I think i get a little more GPU utilization inside (need to check again) but once I step outside, everything frops to 24 to 30 fps. Its like the wider the area the less GPU usage i get[/quote] What’s your hardware and Operating System?[/quote] i7 930 4GHz, Windows 10 64 bit pro 12GB Corsair XMS3 DDR3 1600mhz Ram
lou4612 said:
Muojo said:
lou4612 said:I felt this thread is needed for GTAV as the original 92 page thread is just too much to sort through and keeps getting buried...alot of people are under the impression you can just click away on ultra settings and run GTAV in 3D Vision to get the best image but wonder why they get such low performance as compared to running it in 2D.



Man I tried those settings, no luck. I'll see if 1440p makes a difference when I get home but nothing I've tried so far helps. Frames inside shoot up and I think i get a little more GPU utilization inside (need to check again) but once I step outside, everything frops to 24 to 30 fps. Its like the wider the area the less GPU usage i get


What’s your hardware and Operating System?


i7 930 4GHz, Windows 10 64 bit pro
12GB Corsair XMS3 DDR3 1600mhz Ram

#19
Posted 03/14/2019 06:12 PM   
The bottleneck is the CPU caused by 3DV driver. It is well documented, and acknowledged by nVidia. In GTA5 specifically, it causes the game to go from using very many cores down to using ~2.5 cores, and thereby significantly degrading the performance. You have to reduce CPU intensive settings to gain any meaningful benefit. The last time I looked into it: As it currently stands, even with everything at minimum, there isn't a way to run the game at solid 60fps even with a 5.1GHz CPU, 3600MHz memory, and 2x SLi 1080s, even at <720p I have wondered, however, if there might be a way to force Compatibility Mode in GTA5. 1. That would eradicate the CPU bug intrinsically 2. There would be no extra performance hit for 3DV on the GPU. Conceivably, then one could run GTA5 at solid 120FPS even on mediocre hardware, just as one can with 3DV disabled, if 3DV allowed that. Towards this end, I tried to use Helifax's tutorial to force GTA5 into CM mode. I couldn't get it to work but I do not recall the reason for it not working... [url]https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/791450/3d-vision/guide-3d-vision-fixes-by-helixmod-amp-how-to-add-compatibility-mode-to-dx11-games/[/url] For people wanting great performance in GTA5 with most settings maxed on mediocre hardware, CM is the way to go, but requires further investigation. Certainly with Helifax's "Unleashed" mod, the experience would be quite something :) ============ On a side note, all games suffered from this problem to varying degrees, and it was progressively getting worse as newer games came out. Perhaps our respected boffins who might make our "own" driver shall do a better job than nVidia ever did...
The bottleneck is the CPU caused by 3DV driver. It is well documented, and acknowledged by nVidia.

In GTA5 specifically, it causes the game to go from using very many cores down to using ~2.5 cores, and thereby significantly degrading the performance.

You have to reduce CPU intensive settings to gain any meaningful benefit.

The last time I looked into it:
As it currently stands, even with everything at minimum, there isn't a way to run the game at solid 60fps even with a 5.1GHz CPU, 3600MHz memory, and 2x SLi 1080s, even at <720p

I have wondered, however, if there might be a way to force Compatibility Mode in GTA5.

1. That would eradicate the CPU bug intrinsically
2. There would be no extra performance hit for 3DV on the GPU.

Conceivably, then one could run GTA5 at solid 120FPS even on mediocre hardware, just as one can with 3DV disabled, if 3DV allowed that.

Towards this end, I tried to use Helifax's tutorial to force GTA5 into CM mode. I couldn't get it to work but I do not recall the reason for it not working...

https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/791450/3d-vision/guide-3d-vision-fixes-by-helixmod-amp-how-to-add-compatibility-mode-to-dx11-games/

For people wanting great performance in GTA5 with most settings maxed on mediocre hardware, CM is the way to go, but requires further investigation.

Certainly with Helifax's "Unleashed" mod, the experience would be quite something :)

============

On a side note, all games suffered from this problem to varying degrees, and it was progressively getting worse as newer games came out. Perhaps our respected boffins who might make our "own" driver shall do a better job than nVidia ever did...

Windows 10 64-bit, Intel 7700K @ 5.1GHz, 16GB 3600MHz CL15 DDR4 RAM, 2x GTX 1080 SLI, Asus Maximus IX Hero, Sound Blaster ZxR, PCIe Quad SSD, Oculus Rift CV1, DLP Link PGD-150 glasses, ViewSonic PJD6531w 3D DLP Projector @ 1280x800 120Hz native / 2560x1600 120Hz DSR 3D Gaming.

#20
Posted 03/14/2019 08:16 PM   
[quote="RAGEdemon"]The bottleneck is the CPU caused by 3DV driver. It is well documented, and acknowledged by nVidia. In GTA5 specifically, it causes the game to go from using very many cores down to using ~2.5 cores, and thereby significantly degrading the performance. You have to reduce CPU intensive settings to gain any meaningful benefit. The last time I looked into it: As it currently stands, even with everything at minimum, there isn't a way to run the game at solid 60fps even with a 5.1GHz CPU, 3600MHz memory, and 2x SLi 1080s, even at <720p I have wondered, however, if there might be a way to force Compatibility Mode in GTA5. 1. That would eradicate the CPU bug intrinsically 2. There would be no extra performance hit for 3DV on the GPU. Conceivably, then one could run GTA5 at solid 120FPS even on mediocre hardware, just as one can with 3DV disabled, if 3DV allowed that. Towards this end, I tried to use Helifax's tutorial to force GTA5 into CM mode. I couldn't get it to work but I do not recall the reason for it not working... [url]https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/791450/3d-vision/guide-3d-vision-fixes-by-helixmod-amp-how-to-add-compatibility-mode-to-dx11-games/[/url] For people wanting great performance in GTA5 with most settings maxed on mediocre hardware, CM is the way to go, but requires further investigation. Certainly with Helifax's "Unleashed" mod, the experience would be quite something :) ============ On a side note, all games suffered from this problem to varying degrees, and it was progressively getting worse as newer games came out. Perhaps our respected boffins who might make our "own" driver shall do a better job than nVidia ever did...[/quote] in CM, did others get decent 3D effects? Oh and which settings are CPU intensive. I was gonna make a thread about it but I figured someone might have covered CPU intensive settings
RAGEdemon said:The bottleneck is the CPU caused by 3DV driver. It is well documented, and acknowledged by nVidia.

In GTA5 specifically, it causes the game to go from using very many cores down to using ~2.5 cores, and thereby significantly degrading the performance.

You have to reduce CPU intensive settings to gain any meaningful benefit.

The last time I looked into it:
As it currently stands, even with everything at minimum, there isn't a way to run the game at solid 60fps even with a 5.1GHz CPU, 3600MHz memory, and 2x SLi 1080s, even at <720p

I have wondered, however, if there might be a way to force Compatibility Mode in GTA5.

1. That would eradicate the CPU bug intrinsically
2. There would be no extra performance hit for 3DV on the GPU.

Conceivably, then one could run GTA5 at solid 120FPS even on mediocre hardware, just as one can with 3DV disabled, if 3DV allowed that.

Towards this end, I tried to use Helifax's tutorial to force GTA5 into CM mode. I couldn't get it to work but I do not recall the reason for it not working...

https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/791450/3d-vision/guide-3d-vision-fixes-by-helixmod-amp-how-to-add-compatibility-mode-to-dx11-games/

For people wanting great performance in GTA5 with most settings maxed on mediocre hardware, CM is the way to go, but requires further investigation.

Certainly with Helifax's "Unleashed" mod, the experience would be quite something :)

============

On a side note, all games suffered from this problem to varying degrees, and it was progressively getting worse as newer games came out. Perhaps our respected boffins who might make our "own" driver shall do a better job than nVidia ever did...


in CM, did others get decent 3D effects?

Oh and which settings are CPU intensive. I was gonna make a thread about it but I figured someone might have covered CPU intensive settings

#21
Posted 03/14/2019 11:14 PM   
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