I ordered myself the AW2310 and a NVidia 3d vision kit, the kit arrived but the screen still takes a few days. Now Im pretty sure you guys can understand I cant wait, so is it possible to just try the glases on a 60 maybe even 75 hz screen ? just to see if it works. I know <100-120hz wont work. But with <100-120hz it doesnt work ? or just doesnt work that well ?
I ordered myself the AW2310 and a NVidia 3d vision kit, the kit arrived but the screen still takes a few days. Now Im pretty sure you guys can understand I cant wait, so is it possible to just try the glases on a 60 maybe even 75 hz screen ? just to see if it works. I know <100-120hz wont work. But with <100-120hz it doesnt work ? or just doesnt work that well ?
I ordered myself the AW2310 and a NVidia 3d vision kit, the kit arrived but the screen still takes a few days. Now Im pretty sure you guys can understand I cant wait, so is it possible to just try the glases on a 60 maybe even 75 hz screen ? just to see if it works. I know <100-120hz wont work. But with <100-120hz it doesnt work ? or just doesnt work that well ?[/quote]
It won't work because the 3D Vision set up will say your display failed. Technically it works in 85hz mode, but your monitor has to support at least 100hz at some resolution to get past the set up.
I ordered myself the AW2310 and a NVidia 3d vision kit, the kit arrived but the screen still takes a few days. Now Im pretty sure you guys can understand I cant wait, so is it possible to just try the glases on a 60 maybe even 75 hz screen ? just to see if it works. I know <100-120hz wont work. But with <100-120hz it doesnt work ? or just doesnt work that well ?
It won't work because the 3D Vision set up will say your display failed. Technically it works in 85hz mode, but your monitor has to support at least 100hz at some resolution to get past the set up.
[quote name='Chibi_Chaingun' post='1001288' date='Feb 14 2010, 09:36 PM']It won't work because the 3D Vision set up will say your display failed. Technically it works in 85hz mode, but your monitor has to support at least 100hz at some resolution to get past the set up.[/quote]
which all in all is a total bummer, because the glasses wil actuall work down to 60 and even lower.... I do not see the control panel needing 100 Hz - i can run it just fine in generic CRT mode, just the glasses do not kick in, bummer, as said, because feeding external 60Hz in DP mode makes them shutter just fine... did I say "bummer" allready?....
[quote name='Chibi_Chaingun' post='1001288' date='Feb 14 2010, 09:36 PM']It won't work because the 3D Vision set up will say your display failed. Technically it works in 85hz mode, but your monitor has to support at least 100hz at some resolution to get past the set up.
which all in all is a total bummer, because the glasses wil actuall work down to 60 and even lower.... I do not see the control panel needing 100 Hz - i can run it just fine in generic CRT mode, just the glasses do not kick in, bummer, as said, because feeding external 60Hz in DP mode makes them shutter just fine... did I say "bummer" allready?....
I can see why it's locked out though. 60hz will cause headaches pretty fast and possibly other unwanted side-effects from the severe flicker. I can see why nVidia would not want people trying it in 60hz and writing off the tech as gimmicky and not ready for the market.
I can see why it's locked out though. 60hz will cause headaches pretty fast and possibly other unwanted side-effects from the severe flicker. I can see why nVidia would not want people trying it in 60hz and writing off the tech as gimmicky and not ready for the market.
[quote name='Chibi_Chaingun' post='1001797' date='Feb 15 2010, 06:34 PM']I can see why it's locked out though. 60hz will cause headaches pretty fast and possibly other unwanted side-effects from the severe flicker. I can see why nVidia would not want people trying it in 60hz and writing off the tech as gimmicky and not ready for the market.[/quote]
not neccessarily on DLPs ...beside that, it's my head, and I want to have complete control over when it is aching or not ;-) However, if nvidia wants to give me headache, they just need to continue following their course... the shares are only a fraction of what I once payed for it.... :-)
[quote name='Chibi_Chaingun' post='1001797' date='Feb 15 2010, 06:34 PM']I can see why it's locked out though. 60hz will cause headaches pretty fast and possibly other unwanted side-effects from the severe flicker. I can see why nVidia would not want people trying it in 60hz and writing off the tech as gimmicky and not ready for the market.
not neccessarily on DLPs ...beside that, it's my head, and I want to have complete control over when it is aching or not ;-) However, if nvidia wants to give me headache, they just need to continue following their course... the shares are only a fraction of what I once payed for it.... :-)
You may want to give yourself a headache and eyestrain, but most customers are going to bitch and point the finger at NVIDIA. You know you can get a CRT these days for free that will probably work. I did and I saw the exact same monitor for sell on Craigslist for $15.
You may want to give yourself a headache and eyestrain, but most customers are going to bitch and point the finger at NVIDIA. You know you can get a CRT these days for free that will probably work. I did and I saw the exact same monitor for sell on Craigslist for $15.
One that compete with my 2560x1600 30" Dell? doubt so... diferent with a DLP and a large screen though... and: no headaches with that... As I understand the "bitchin' at nvidia" argumnetation you would still have to enable it manually in generic CRT mode. Hell, I wouldnt mind if they blend in a disclaimer notifying about using an unsupported mode and hinting towards the compatibility list that needs to be nodded away....
One that compete with my 2560x1600 30" Dell? doubt so... diferent with a DLP and a large screen though... and: no headaches with that... As I understand the "bitchin' at nvidia" argumnetation you would still have to enable it manually in generic CRT mode. Hell, I wouldnt mind if they blend in a disclaimer notifying about using an unsupported mode and hinting towards the compatibility list that needs to be nodded away....
To my knowledge, there is [i]no[/i] monitor that is 30" that does 2560x1600 and 3D compatible. I guess you can wait for a while until such a monitor exists if that is your requirements.
To my knowledge, there is no monitor that is 30" that does 2560x1600 and 3D compatible. I guess you can wait for a while until such a monitor exists if that is your requirements.
60Hz is not fast enough to be convincing and also it causes your eyes and brain to work much harder resulting in headaches.
CRT is a cheaper alternative route but side by side, a 120Hz LCD to me looks far better than a CRT at 120Hz. For one, 3D Vision certified displays are tuned to work with our glasses which results in a much better and convincing 3d experience.
60Hz is not fast enough to be convincing and also it causes your eyes and brain to work much harder resulting in headaches.
CRT is a cheaper alternative route but side by side, a 120Hz LCD to me looks far better than a CRT at 120Hz. For one, 3D Vision certified displays are tuned to work with our glasses which results in a much better and convincing 3d experience.
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No, I agree.. I was just trying to help him find a cheap entry into 3D since it seemed he bought an expensive monitor before considering it's 3D capabilities. CRTs are the worst option for 3D and imo DLP/projectors are ze best! :)
No, I agree.. I was just trying to help him find a cheap entry into 3D since it seemed he bought an expensive monitor before considering it's 3D capabilities. CRTs are the worst option for 3D and imo DLP/projectors are ze best! :)
[quote name='Chibi_Chaingun' post='1002516' date='Feb 16 2010, 09:30 PM']No, I agree.. I was just trying to help him find a cheap entry into 3D since it seemed he bought an expensive monitor before considering it's 3D capabilities. CRTs are the worst option for 3D and imo DLP/projectors are ze best! :)[/quote]
Thank you for trying to help me, but I feel I need to explain where I am coming from and why...
Let me asure I bought the 30" several years ago with absolute knowledge about the restrictions in S3D use. It was replacing my 24" TFT (VA panel) which again was a replacement for my 19" CRT - and each upgrade definately I did not regret.
For the record on my S3D experience: I was using Metabyte's Eyescream immediately after they were released (costed round 450 USD then, oh boy!) and later on Elsa's Revelator on the CRT (and also on the 24" TFT - so I know exactly what shutters on 60Hz mean!). Grafic cards in use at that time were nvidia's Riva 128 combined with Voodo I/II then a TNT, TNT2, a 4400 (no TI) and lastly a 6800. Somewhen in between Metabyte was sucked in by nvidia and driver suppport ceased for the grafic cards suited for contemporary gaming titles and no sloution was in sight.
That was when I temporarily gave up on S3D and with no need to concern about stereoscopic support there was nothing stopping me from getting a Radeon 9800, soon to be followed by an Radeon HD2900.
Also I moved on to the next best step in immersion - sheer size - and got this 30" Dell. Not only does it have a huge screensize, also the pixel density is beyond critcism, for gaming as well as productive use in an audio workstation setup - combine this with the color gammut of an S-IPS panel and you may start to understand why for no way I would trade this for a lousy 22 or 23" TN panel - S3D or not. Maybe this is going to change with the release of Asus' 27" Full HD S3D TFT later this year, but not before having tested color reproduction and viewing angles.
At the same time I am currently using a projector solution for movie watching and this one is partially fed by an old PC running Windows 98(!) on nforce3 and a Geforce 6800 using the old stereo drivers. This works exceptional good beside the subpar power needed for modsern games and GPU video acceleration.
I would [i]immediately[/i] upgrade the projector system to a more powerful solution giving alternate frame rendering support at 60Hz - nvidia or any other, which is also valid the same for my gaming PC to replace my GeForce 285 in summer, Fermi or 5890 - Cebit will tell...
[quote name='Chibi_Chaingun' post='1002516' date='Feb 16 2010, 09:30 PM']No, I agree.. I was just trying to help him find a cheap entry into 3D since it seemed he bought an expensive monitor before considering it's 3D capabilities. CRTs are the worst option for 3D and imo DLP/projectors are ze best! :)
Thank you for trying to help me, but I feel I need to explain where I am coming from and why...
Let me asure I bought the 30" several years ago with absolute knowledge about the restrictions in S3D use. It was replacing my 24" TFT (VA panel) which again was a replacement for my 19" CRT - and each upgrade definately I did not regret.
For the record on my S3D experience: I was using Metabyte's Eyescream immediately after they were released (costed round 450 USD then, oh boy!) and later on Elsa's Revelator on the CRT (and also on the 24" TFT - so I know exactly what shutters on 60Hz mean!). Grafic cards in use at that time were nvidia's Riva 128 combined with Voodo I/II then a TNT, TNT2, a 4400 (no TI) and lastly a 6800. Somewhen in between Metabyte was sucked in by nvidia and driver suppport ceased for the grafic cards suited for contemporary gaming titles and no sloution was in sight.
That was when I temporarily gave up on S3D and with no need to concern about stereoscopic support there was nothing stopping me from getting a Radeon 9800, soon to be followed by an Radeon HD2900.
Also I moved on to the next best step in immersion - sheer size - and got this 30" Dell. Not only does it have a huge screensize, also the pixel density is beyond critcism, for gaming as well as productive use in an audio workstation setup - combine this with the color gammut of an S-IPS panel and you may start to understand why for no way I would trade this for a lousy 22 or 23" TN panel - S3D or not. Maybe this is going to change with the release of Asus' 27" Full HD S3D TFT later this year, but not before having tested color reproduction and viewing angles.
At the same time I am currently using a projector solution for movie watching and this one is partially fed by an old PC running Windows 98(!) on nforce3 and a Geforce 6800 using the old stereo drivers. This works exceptional good beside the subpar power needed for modsern games and GPU video acceleration.
I would immediately upgrade the projector system to a more powerful solution giving alternate frame rendering support at 60Hz - nvidia or any other, which is also valid the same for my gaming PC to replace my GeForce 285 in summer, Fermi or 5890 - Cebit will tell...
I ordered myself the AW2310 and a NVidia 3d vision kit, the kit arrived but the screen still takes a few days. Now Im pretty sure you guys can understand I cant wait, so is it possible to just try the glases on a 60 maybe even 75 hz screen ? just to see if it works. I know <100-120hz wont work. But with <100-120hz it doesnt work ? or just doesnt work that well ?
I ordered myself the AW2310 and a NVidia 3d vision kit, the kit arrived but the screen still takes a few days. Now Im pretty sure you guys can understand I cant wait, so is it possible to just try the glases on a 60 maybe even 75 hz screen ? just to see if it works. I know <100-120hz wont work. But with <100-120hz it doesnt work ? or just doesnt work that well ?
I ordered myself the AW2310 and a NVidia 3d vision kit, the kit arrived but the screen still takes a few days. Now Im pretty sure you guys can understand I cant wait, so is it possible to just try the glases on a 60 maybe even 75 hz screen ? just to see if it works. I know <100-120hz wont work. But with <100-120hz it doesnt work ? or just doesnt work that well ?[/quote]
It won't work because the 3D Vision set up will say your display failed. Technically it works in 85hz mode, but your monitor has to support at least 100hz at some resolution to get past the set up.
I ordered myself the AW2310 and a NVidia 3d vision kit, the kit arrived but the screen still takes a few days. Now Im pretty sure you guys can understand I cant wait, so is it possible to just try the glases on a 60 maybe even 75 hz screen ? just to see if it works. I know <100-120hz wont work. But with <100-120hz it doesnt work ? or just doesnt work that well ?
It won't work because the 3D Vision set up will say your display failed. Technically it works in 85hz mode, but your monitor has to support at least 100hz at some resolution to get past the set up.
which all in all is a total bummer, because the glasses wil actuall work down to 60 and even lower.... I do not see the control panel needing 100 Hz - i can run it just fine in generic CRT mode, just the glasses do not kick in, bummer, as said, because feeding external 60Hz in DP mode makes them shutter just fine... did I say "bummer" allready?....
which all in all is a total bummer, because the glasses wil actuall work down to 60 and even lower.... I do not see the control panel needing 100 Hz - i can run it just fine in generic CRT mode, just the glasses do not kick in, bummer, as said, because feeding external 60Hz in DP mode makes them shutter just fine... did I say "bummer" allready?....
not neccessarily on DLPs ...beside that, it's my head, and I want to have complete control over when it is aching or not ;-) However, if nvidia wants to give me headache, they just need to continue following their course... the shares are only a fraction of what I once payed for it.... :-)
not neccessarily on DLPs ...beside that, it's my head, and I want to have complete control over when it is aching or not ;-) However, if nvidia wants to give me headache, they just need to continue following their course... the shares are only a fraction of what I once payed for it.... :-)
CRT is a cheaper alternative route but side by side, a 120Hz LCD to me looks far better than a CRT at 120Hz. For one, 3D Vision certified displays are tuned to work with our glasses which results in a much better and convincing 3d experience.
CRT is a cheaper alternative route but side by side, a 120Hz LCD to me looks far better than a CRT at 120Hz. For one, 3D Vision certified displays are tuned to work with our glasses which results in a much better and convincing 3d experience.
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Thank you for trying to help me, but I feel I need to explain where I am coming from and why...
Let me asure I bought the 30" several years ago with absolute knowledge about the restrictions in S3D use. It was replacing my 24" TFT (VA panel) which again was a replacement for my 19" CRT - and each upgrade definately I did not regret.
For the record on my S3D experience: I was using Metabyte's Eyescream immediately after they were released (costed round 450 USD then, oh boy!) and later on Elsa's Revelator on the CRT (and also on the 24" TFT - so I know exactly what shutters on 60Hz mean!). Grafic cards in use at that time were nvidia's Riva 128 combined with Voodo I/II then a TNT, TNT2, a 4400 (no TI) and lastly a 6800. Somewhen in between Metabyte was sucked in by nvidia and driver suppport ceased for the grafic cards suited for contemporary gaming titles and no sloution was in sight.
That was when I temporarily gave up on S3D and with no need to concern about stereoscopic support there was nothing stopping me from getting a Radeon 9800, soon to be followed by an Radeon HD2900.
Also I moved on to the next best step in immersion - sheer size - and got this 30" Dell. Not only does it have a huge screensize, also the pixel density is beyond critcism, for gaming as well as productive use in an audio workstation setup - combine this with the color gammut of an S-IPS panel and you may start to understand why for no way I would trade this for a lousy 22 or 23" TN panel - S3D or not. Maybe this is going to change with the release of Asus' 27" Full HD S3D TFT later this year, but not before having tested color reproduction and viewing angles.
At the same time I am currently using a projector solution for movie watching and this one is partially fed by an old PC running Windows 98(!) on nforce3 and a Geforce 6800 using the old stereo drivers. This works exceptional good beside the subpar power needed for modsern games and GPU video acceleration.
I would [i]immediately[/i] upgrade the projector system to a more powerful solution giving alternate frame rendering support at 60Hz - nvidia or any other, which is also valid the same for my gaming PC to replace my GeForce 285 in summer, Fermi or 5890 - Cebit will tell...
- first come, first serve is the theme...
Thank you for trying to help me, but I feel I need to explain where I am coming from and why...
Let me asure I bought the 30" several years ago with absolute knowledge about the restrictions in S3D use. It was replacing my 24" TFT (VA panel) which again was a replacement for my 19" CRT - and each upgrade definately I did not regret.
For the record on my S3D experience: I was using Metabyte's Eyescream immediately after they were released (costed round 450 USD then, oh boy!) and later on Elsa's Revelator on the CRT (and also on the 24" TFT - so I know exactly what shutters on 60Hz mean!). Grafic cards in use at that time were nvidia's Riva 128 combined with Voodo I/II then a TNT, TNT2, a 4400 (no TI) and lastly a 6800. Somewhen in between Metabyte was sucked in by nvidia and driver suppport ceased for the grafic cards suited for contemporary gaming titles and no sloution was in sight.
That was when I temporarily gave up on S3D and with no need to concern about stereoscopic support there was nothing stopping me from getting a Radeon 9800, soon to be followed by an Radeon HD2900.
Also I moved on to the next best step in immersion - sheer size - and got this 30" Dell. Not only does it have a huge screensize, also the pixel density is beyond critcism, for gaming as well as productive use in an audio workstation setup - combine this with the color gammut of an S-IPS panel and you may start to understand why for no way I would trade this for a lousy 22 or 23" TN panel - S3D or not. Maybe this is going to change with the release of Asus' 27" Full HD S3D TFT later this year, but not before having tested color reproduction and viewing angles.
At the same time I am currently using a projector solution for movie watching and this one is partially fed by an old PC running Windows 98(!) on nforce3 and a Geforce 6800 using the old stereo drivers. This works exceptional good beside the subpar power needed for modsern games and GPU video acceleration.
I would immediately upgrade the projector system to a more powerful solution giving alternate frame rendering support at 60Hz - nvidia or any other, which is also valid the same for my gaming PC to replace my GeForce 285 in summer, Fermi or 5890 - Cebit will tell...
- first come, first serve is the theme...