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So after my not so surprising dissapointment with SLI, ive decided to give the world of nvidia stereo a chance. So what do i need to get stereo running and will my crappy ass 85hz monitor run it?

What are some good but cheap glasses?
So after my not so surprising dissapointment with SLI, ive decided to give the world of nvidia stereo a chance. So what do i need to get stereo running and will my crappy ass 85hz monitor run it?



What are some good but cheap glasses?

#1
Posted 06/18/2005 11:48 PM   
All you need is a decent nVidia card, more powerful the better, and shutter glasses.

Shutters are all the same, best to get the cheapesst ones possible. You can usually find ELSA Revelators for <20$ in eBay.

We are here to help.

Good luck.
All you need is a decent nVidia card, more powerful the better, and shutter glasses.



Shutters are all the same, best to get the cheapesst ones possible. You can usually find ELSA Revelators for <20$ in eBay.



We are here to help.



Good luck.

Windows 10 64-bit, Intel 7700K @ 5.1GHz, 16GB 3600MHz CL15 DDR4 RAM, 2x GTX 1080 SLI, Asus Maximus IX Hero, Sound Blaster ZxR, PCIe Quad SSD, Oculus Rift CV1, DLP Link PGD-150 glasses, ViewSonic PJD6531w 3D DLP Projector @ 1280x800 120Hz native / 2560x1600 120Hz DSR 3D Gaming.

#2
Posted 06/19/2005 04:15 PM   
Forgot one thing. Monitor refresh rates and type of monitor. as you will read in most of these forums, LCD monitors don't work very well in stereo, as they use interleaved instead of page flip. this makes the images look grainier, as it literally cuts the vertical resolution in half in each eye. this is why text is often hard to read at lower resolutions. if you have an CRT monitor, you should be good to go. the higher the refresh rates, the better. I will often times play games at 800x600 because it gets up to 144 hz, and looks much much better in stereo due to the total lack of ANY flicker. check those refresh rates. I wouldn't play a game if I coulnd't get above 100 hz. that's 50hz in each eye. ouch.

The rest is true about video cards being powerful. stereo, I find, cuts my frame rates down by about 20%-30%.

as for the glasses, I like edimensionals, as they have the ability to hook up multiple pairs of glasses, wireless or wired (for those single computer multiplayer games).
Forgot one thing. Monitor refresh rates and type of monitor. as you will read in most of these forums, LCD monitors don't work very well in stereo, as they use interleaved instead of page flip. this makes the images look grainier, as it literally cuts the vertical resolution in half in each eye. this is why text is often hard to read at lower resolutions. if you have an CRT monitor, you should be good to go. the higher the refresh rates, the better. I will often times play games at 800x600 because it gets up to 144 hz, and looks much much better in stereo due to the total lack of ANY flicker. check those refresh rates. I wouldn't play a game if I coulnd't get above 100 hz. that's 50hz in each eye. ouch.



The rest is true about video cards being powerful. stereo, I find, cuts my frame rates down by about 20%-30%.



as for the glasses, I like edimensionals, as they have the ability to hook up multiple pairs of glasses, wireless or wired (for those single computer multiplayer games).

#3
Posted 06/19/2005 07:16 PM   
I have a Samsung SyncMaster 793df crt, max is 85hz. My 6800gt is more than enough to run stereo. Ill look for those glasses, i did a search yesterday and didnt find much on 3d stereo glasses. I also remember seeing some transparent shutter glasses for like 45 bucks before, any one know what theyre called? Theyre in the shape of the paper anaglyph ones.
I have a Samsung SyncMaster 793df crt, max is 85hz. My 6800gt is more than enough to run stereo. Ill look for those glasses, i did a search yesterday and didnt find much on 3d stereo glasses. I also remember seeing some transparent shutter glasses for like 45 bucks before, any one know what theyre called? Theyre in the shape of the paper anaglyph ones.

#4
Posted 06/19/2005 08:59 PM   
My brother can get me a pair of msi stereo 2 shutter glasses, any one know how good they are?
My brother can get me a pair of msi stereo 2 shutter glasses, any one know how good they are?

#5
Posted 06/20/2005 12:10 AM   
This is interesting, review of shutter glasses.

[url="http://www.stereo3d.com/shutter.htm"]http://www.stereo3d.com/shutter.htm[/url]

These are the ones i was looking for, they look pretty damn cool.

[url="http://www.stereo3d.com/aeye2000.htm"]http://www.stereo3d.com/aeye2000.htm[/url]

[img]http://www.stereo3d.com/img/aeye2000.jpg[/img]
This is interesting, review of shutter glasses.



http://www.stereo3d.com/shutter.htm



These are the ones i was looking for, they look pretty damn cool.



http://www.stereo3d.com/aeye2000.htm



Image

#6
Posted 06/20/2005 12:36 PM   
I have those, one of the most comfortable ones I've tried, and easy to flip open for looking around you. I wish they were wireless, though.
I have those, one of the most comfortable ones I've tried, and easy to flip open for looking around you. I wish they were wireless, though.

#7
Posted 06/21/2005 03:23 PM   
Your max of 85 Hz will be a problem.
For a good 3d-view you need 120 or more...
Your max of 85 Hz will be a problem.

For a good 3d-view you need 120 or more...

#8
Posted 06/22/2005 02:27 AM   
Its better than nothing. Logic says that my max fps then would be something like 42, but 42 is good enough. I used to play games at that any ways. /haha.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':haha:' />
Its better than nothing. Logic says that my max fps then would be something like 42, but 42 is good enough. I used to play games at that any ways. /haha.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':haha:' />

#9
Posted 06/22/2005 02:31 AM   
FPS is nothing to do with your refresh rate.

TVs run at 50-60Hz

You effectively half the hz of your monitor when using shutterglasses. So to be as comfortable as you would be watching the TV, you need a monitor pumping out 100-120hz
FPS is nothing to do with your refresh rate.



TVs run at 50-60Hz



You effectively half the hz of your monitor when using shutterglasses. So to be as comfortable as you would be watching the TV, you need a monitor pumping out 100-120hz

It better be.

#10
Posted 06/22/2005 02:38 AM   
Fps has everything to do with your refresh rate. If your max refresh rate is 85 then your max fps is going to be 85, even though more than that will be rendered by your card, the amount that youll actually see is 85. My max fps then would be 42 because half of 85 is 42.5 something like that. Also your eyes see at 60 frames per second, so more than 80hz would be pointless for me the average user. 42fps is fine depending on what youre doing, movies i think are filmed at 24 fps, and tv is 29 fps.

What ever, my card will be able to max out the fps anyways.
Fps has everything to do with your refresh rate. If your max refresh rate is 85 then your max fps is going to be 85, even though more than that will be rendered by your card, the amount that youll actually see is 85. My max fps then would be 42 because half of 85 is 42.5 something like that. Also your eyes see at 60 frames per second, so more than 80hz would be pointless for me the average user. 42fps is fine depending on what youre doing, movies i think are filmed at 24 fps, and tv is 29 fps.



What ever, my card will be able to max out the fps anyways.

#11
Posted 06/22/2005 10:51 PM   
You have missed the point I'm afraid, as you will discover when your folks purchase your shutterglasses for you. :rolleyes:

I will not attempt to explain further because I feel that your many recent posts around these forums have been very opinionated, often very wrong and more often and much worse than that, insulting to various members of nZone who are simply here to assist each other with various technical problems.

People do not help people whom they do not like.

I trust you will, at 15 years old, have the time to modify your behaviour and attitude before it becomes irrevocably a part of your personality. You will no doubt look back on your time spent here with embarassment.

Take care kiddo. Come back when your ready.
You have missed the point I'm afraid, as you will discover when your folks purchase your shutterglasses for you. :rolleyes:



I will not attempt to explain further because I feel that your many recent posts around these forums have been very opinionated, often very wrong and more often and much worse than that, insulting to various members of nZone who are simply here to assist each other with various technical problems.



People do not help people whom they do not like.



I trust you will, at 15 years old, have the time to modify your behaviour and attitude before it becomes irrevocably a part of your personality. You will no doubt look back on your time spent here with embarassment.



Take care kiddo. Come back when your ready.

It better be.

#12
Posted 06/23/2005 06:34 PM   
That my hz will be halved to 42 and so will the maximum fps i will be seeing?
That my hz will be halved to 42 and so will the maximum fps i will be seeing?

#13
Posted 06/23/2005 06:45 PM   
Please see my above post nabiul, I finished editing it as you posted again.
Please see my above post nabiul, I finished editing it as you posted again.

It better be.

#14
Posted 06/23/2005 06:48 PM   
You are right, stable 60 FPS are fine.

The Problem with low refreshrates in stereo is flickering. With your 85 Hz each eye will get 42,5 Pictures per Second. That´s far too less for good (flickerless) gaming.

The old TV-standard which was realy bad, is 50 Half-Pictures with a PAL-System. A good TV is handling now 100 Hz. So, if your CTR can handle 100 Hz, you get just that old TV-quality of 50 Hz in stereo.
You are right, stable 60 FPS are fine.



The Problem with low refreshrates in stereo is flickering. With your 85 Hz each eye will get 42,5 Pictures per Second. That´s far too less for good (flickerless) gaming.



The old TV-standard which was realy bad, is 50 Half-Pictures with a PAL-System. A good TV is handling now 100 Hz. So, if your CTR can handle 100 Hz, you get just that old TV-quality of 50 Hz in stereo.

#15
Posted 06/23/2005 06:56 PM   
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