Titan Quest might be my favorite game in 3D. I play with max depth though. I bring convergence up to the point where the mouse pointer isn't clipping into the ground and it is just about the most incredible thing you'll see in 3dvision. Clicking on things takes a little getting used to, but trust me, it's worth it. You'll want to stay away from the characters introduced in the Immortal Throne expansion though, as their spell effects aren't rendered correctly.
Here is an example of the settings I use for all Isometric perspective games (Torchlight, Company of Hereos, Titan Quest, Warhammer 40k) I don't like your settings, cause they feel like you're too far away from the action . . .
Titan Quest might be my favorite game in 3D. I play with max depth though. I bring convergence up to the point where the mouse pointer isn't clipping into the ground and it is just about the most incredible thing you'll see in 3dvision. Clicking on things takes a little getting used to, but trust me, it's worth it. You'll want to stay away from the characters introduced in the Immortal Throne expansion though, as their spell effects aren't rendered correctly.
Here is an example of the settings I use for all Isometric perspective games (Torchlight, Company of Hereos, Titan Quest, Warhammer 40k) I don't like your settings, cause they feel like you're too far away from the action . . .
[quote name='rowan_u' date='03 September 2011 - 04:06 PM' timestamp='1315062373' post='1287979']
I play with max depth though. I bring convergence up to the point where the mouse pointer isn't clipping into the ground and it is just about the most incredible thing you'll see in 3dvision.
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My preferred settings also. You just can't beat the effect you get from that on the right game. I showed one of my mates Titans Quest in 3D and he went "wow, I never thought 3D could add so much to a game like that". He hadn't even realised what it could potentially look like. Dawn of War 2 is phenomenal like that also. Didn't know about hte Immortal Throne effects not being done correctly tho =((
[quote name='rowan_u' date='03 September 2011 - 04:06 PM' timestamp='1315062373' post='1287979']
I play with max depth though. I bring convergence up to the point where the mouse pointer isn't clipping into the ground and it is just about the most incredible thing you'll see in 3dvision.
My preferred settings also. You just can't beat the effect you get from that on the right game. I showed one of my mates Titans Quest in 3D and he went "wow, I never thought 3D could add so much to a game like that". He hadn't even realised what it could potentially look like. Dawn of War 2 is phenomenal like that also. Didn't know about hte Immortal Throne effects not being done correctly tho =((
[quote name='Eightball' date='04 September 2011 - 04:57 AM' timestamp='1315108653' post='1288256']
My preferred settings also. You just can't beat the effect you get from that on the right game. I showed one of my mates Titans Quest in 3D and he went "wow, I never thought 3D could add so much to a game like that". He hadn't even realised what it could potentially look like. Dawn of War 2 is phenomenal like that also. Didn't know about hte Immortal Throne effects not being done correctly tho =((
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If you like Dawn of War 2, you should give Company of Heroes a try. You have to rename the exe to empire.exe to get the convergence to work right though. I actually like the game better than DOW2, the physics feel better to me, and I really miss all the RTS and tactical elements they dropped from the campaign of DOW 2.
Also, you can play through the Immortal Throne expansion with one of the original characters with almost no problems :)
[quote name='Eightball' date='04 September 2011 - 04:57 AM' timestamp='1315108653' post='1288256']
My preferred settings also. You just can't beat the effect you get from that on the right game. I showed one of my mates Titans Quest in 3D and he went "wow, I never thought 3D could add so much to a game like that". He hadn't even realised what it could potentially look like. Dawn of War 2 is phenomenal like that also. Didn't know about hte Immortal Throne effects not being done correctly tho =((
If you like Dawn of War 2, you should give Company of Heroes a try. You have to rename the exe to empire.exe to get the convergence to work right though. I actually like the game better than DOW2, the physics feel better to me, and I really miss all the RTS and tactical elements they dropped from the campaign of DOW 2.
Also, you can play through the Immortal Throne expansion with one of the original characters with almost no problems :)
What settings / software do you use for capture. Do you capture to an SSD?
I use FRAPS. On some older or less hectic games I can get away with capturing at full HD, but most games I gotta go down to half resolution before I can hit 30fps. I'm rendering on GTX 480 SLI with a quad core 4 GHZ overclocked intel. I didn't see a huge benefit to capturing to SSD, so I now run the games / page file off an SSD, and capture to a regular drive.
Still not sure where the bottleneck is on capture . . . I can write to my ssd at 45 MB/S with the windows file manager. It seems that should be plenty to get 60fps in full HD . . . perhaps the bottleneck is the processor?
[quote name='3Dizzy.com' date='04 September 2011 - 02:31 AM' timestamp='1315099879' post='1288218']
Great Video rowan_u, you will like Gatling Gears:
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Nice video! Will definitely check the game out.
What settings / software do you use for capture. Do you capture to an SSD?
I use FRAPS. On some older or less hectic games I can get away with capturing at full HD, but most games I gotta go down to half resolution before I can hit 30fps. I'm rendering on GTX 480 SLI with a quad core 4 GHZ overclocked intel. I didn't see a huge benefit to capturing to SSD, so I now run the games / page file off an SSD, and capture to a regular drive.
Still not sure where the bottleneck is on capture . . . I can write to my ssd at 45 MB/S with the windows file manager. It seems that should be plenty to get 60fps in full HD . . . perhaps the bottleneck is the processor?
[quote name='rowan_u' date='04 September 2011 - 03:05 PM' timestamp='1315145122' post='1288393']
If you like Dawn of War 2, you should give Company of Heroes a try. You have to rename the exe to empire.exe to get the convergence to work right though. I actually like the game better than DOW2, the physics feel better to me, and I really miss all the RTS and tactical elements they dropped from the campaign of DOW 2.
Also, you can play through the Immortal Throne expansion with one of the original characters with almost no problems :)
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I've played CoH for the longest time. I prefer CoH for vs AI, but I prefer DoW2 for PvP and it has co-op campaign. Plus i'm a huge fan of the 40k universe.
[quote name='rowan_u' date='04 September 2011 - 03:05 PM' timestamp='1315145122' post='1288393']
If you like Dawn of War 2, you should give Company of Heroes a try. You have to rename the exe to empire.exe to get the convergence to work right though. I actually like the game better than DOW2, the physics feel better to me, and I really miss all the RTS and tactical elements they dropped from the campaign of DOW 2.
Also, you can play through the Immortal Throne expansion with one of the original characters with almost no problems :)
I've played CoH for the longest time. I prefer CoH for vs AI, but I prefer DoW2 for PvP and it has co-op campaign. Plus i'm a huge fan of the 40k universe.
Yes Titans Quest does look great in S3D. I always wondered why some considered this and other top-down isometric titles "broken" in 3D Vision when they are some of the best despite their 3D Vision ratings.
[quote name='rowan_u' date='04 September 2011 - 10:15 AM' timestamp='1315145756' post='1288400']
Nice video! Will definitely check the game out.
What settings / software do you use for capture. Do you capture to an SSD?
I use FRAPS. On some older or less hectic games I can get away with capturing at full HD, but most games I gotta go down to half resolution before I can hit 30fps. I'm rendering on GTX 480 SLI with a quad core 4 GHZ overclocked intel. I didn't see a huge benefit to capturing to SSD, so I now run the games / page file off an SSD, and capture to a regular drive.
Still not sure where the bottleneck is on capture . . . I can write to my ssd at 45 MB/S with the windows file manager. It seems that should be plenty to get 60fps in full HD . . . perhaps the bottleneck is the processor?
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With those specs your bottleneck is most likely your storage subsystem. 45 MB/s is NOT enough to record in FullHD @ 60fps, if I had to guess that SSD is an older generation, possibly Jmicron drive, as those write speeds are pretty low. You would probably be better off with even a modest 7200RPM drive instead.
You really need ~400MB/s sequential write speeds to capture 3840x1080 FullHD in S3D @ 60FPS and full resolution. You can look at your FRAPs output files to get an idea of the bitrates involved here. S3D in 1080p @ 30 FPS requires roughly 1,500Mbps or 200MB/s. S3D in 1080p @ 60 FPS requires double that, so roughly 3,000Mbps or 400MB/s sequential write speeds.
When it comes to recording uncompressed video in FRAPs I'd go for raw throughput and sequential write speeds. This is certainly one area HDDs still make more sense than SSDs, as the sequential write speeds of large platter 7200RPM drives are still very competitive with SSDs and offer an order of magnitude more storage for a fraction of the price. If your target sequential write speeds are ~400MB/s, you can get there with 2 top-tier SSDs with sequential writes in the ~200-250MB/s range in RAID0, or 3-4 large platter 7200RPM drives in RAID0 that offer 120-140MB/s sequential write speeds. In both cases, write speeds scale almost linearly with each additional drive in the array. The main difference here again is that you can get 4-6TB of storage in that HDD RAID0 array compared to ~300-400GB for an SSD RAID0 array and you'd be paying a lot less as well. Considering FRAPs video clips are capped at 4GB for only ~25-30s worth of uncompressed 1080p S3D footage, the extra capacity is very useful.
If you already have a 7200RPM HDD that's at least 1TB, I'd look at adding a 2nd one for cheap, then a 3rd etc. Most 1TB drives can be had for $50 new or less if you're willing to look on FS/FT forums. Then add a 3rd/4th etc if you still want better performance. My 3x1TB Seagate can record most games at 60FPS in S3D, but still struggle in some faster paced titles. I think 3x1.5TB WD Black would get the job done as they are just faster drives overall.
Yes Titans Quest does look great in S3D. I always wondered why some considered this and other top-down isometric titles "broken" in 3D Vision when they are some of the best despite their 3D Vision ratings.
[quote name='rowan_u' date='04 September 2011 - 10:15 AM' timestamp='1315145756' post='1288400']
Nice video! Will definitely check the game out.
What settings / software do you use for capture. Do you capture to an SSD?
I use FRAPS. On some older or less hectic games I can get away with capturing at full HD, but most games I gotta go down to half resolution before I can hit 30fps. I'm rendering on GTX 480 SLI with a quad core 4 GHZ overclocked intel. I didn't see a huge benefit to capturing to SSD, so I now run the games / page file off an SSD, and capture to a regular drive.
Still not sure where the bottleneck is on capture . . . I can write to my ssd at 45 MB/S with the windows file manager. It seems that should be plenty to get 60fps in full HD . . . perhaps the bottleneck is the processor?
With those specs your bottleneck is most likely your storage subsystem. 45 MB/s is NOT enough to record in FullHD @ 60fps, if I had to guess that SSD is an older generation, possibly Jmicron drive, as those write speeds are pretty low. You would probably be better off with even a modest 7200RPM drive instead.
You really need ~400MB/s sequential write speeds to capture 3840x1080 FullHD in S3D @ 60FPS and full resolution. You can look at your FRAPs output files to get an idea of the bitrates involved here. S3D in 1080p @ 30 FPS requires roughly 1,500Mbps or 200MB/s. S3D in 1080p @ 60 FPS requires double that, so roughly 3,000Mbps or 400MB/s sequential write speeds.
When it comes to recording uncompressed video in FRAPs I'd go for raw throughput and sequential write speeds. This is certainly one area HDDs still make more sense than SSDs, as the sequential write speeds of large platter 7200RPM drives are still very competitive with SSDs and offer an order of magnitude more storage for a fraction of the price. If your target sequential write speeds are ~400MB/s, you can get there with 2 top-tier SSDs with sequential writes in the ~200-250MB/s range in RAID0, or 3-4 large platter 7200RPM drives in RAID0 that offer 120-140MB/s sequential write speeds. In both cases, write speeds scale almost linearly with each additional drive in the array. The main difference here again is that you can get 4-6TB of storage in that HDD RAID0 array compared to ~300-400GB for an SSD RAID0 array and you'd be paying a lot less as well. Considering FRAPs video clips are capped at 4GB for only ~25-30s worth of uncompressed 1080p S3D footage, the extra capacity is very useful.
If you already have a 7200RPM HDD that's at least 1TB, I'd look at adding a 2nd one for cheap, then a 3rd etc. Most 1TB drives can be had for $50 new or less if you're willing to look on FS/FT forums. Then add a 3rd/4th etc if you still want better performance. My 3x1TB Seagate can record most games at 60FPS in S3D, but still struggle in some faster paced titles. I think 3x1.5TB WD Black would get the job done as they are just faster drives overall.
'Toyification' effect works really well in this game, (low depth and high convergence).
Take a look for yourself
[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyCCffy21wU"]Titan Quest: Immortal Throne in 3D[/url]
Enjoy![/size]
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyCCffy21wU[/media]
'Toyification' effect works really well in this game, (low depth and high convergence).
Take a look for yourself
" rel="nofollow" target = "_blank">Titan Quest: Immortal Throne in 3D
Enjoy!
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www.3Dizzy.com
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Here is an example of the settings I use for all Isometric perspective games (Torchlight, Company of Hereos, Titan Quest, Warhammer 40k) I don't like your settings, cause they feel like you're too far away from the action . . .
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xi0D2IjiMwk[/media]
Here is an example of the settings I use for all Isometric perspective games (Torchlight, Company of Hereos, Titan Quest, Warhammer 40k) I don't like your settings, cause they feel like you're too far away from the action . . .
[media][/media]
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJCrYWzuCuQ[/media]
[media][/media]
Ed
Creator
www.3Dizzy.com
Home of 3D Videos
I play with max depth though. I bring convergence up to the point where the mouse pointer isn't clipping into the ground and it is just about the most incredible thing you'll see in 3dvision.
[/quote]
My preferred settings also. You just can't beat the effect you get from that on the right game. I showed one of my mates Titans Quest in 3D and he went "wow, I never thought 3D could add so much to a game like that". He hadn't even realised what it could potentially look like. Dawn of War 2 is phenomenal like that also. Didn't know about hte Immortal Throne effects not being done correctly tho =((
I play with max depth though. I bring convergence up to the point where the mouse pointer isn't clipping into the ground and it is just about the most incredible thing you'll see in 3dvision.
My preferred settings also. You just can't beat the effect you get from that on the right game. I showed one of my mates Titans Quest in 3D and he went "wow, I never thought 3D could add so much to a game like that". He hadn't even realised what it could potentially look like. Dawn of War 2 is phenomenal like that also. Didn't know about hte Immortal Throne effects not being done correctly tho =((
My preferred settings also. You just can't beat the effect you get from that on the right game. I showed one of my mates Titans Quest in 3D and he went "wow, I never thought 3D could add so much to a game like that". He hadn't even realised what it could potentially look like. Dawn of War 2 is phenomenal like that also. Didn't know about hte Immortal Throne effects not being done correctly tho =((
[/quote]
If you like Dawn of War 2, you should give Company of Heroes a try. You have to rename the exe to empire.exe to get the convergence to work right though. I actually like the game better than DOW2, the physics feel better to me, and I really miss all the RTS and tactical elements they dropped from the campaign of DOW 2.
Also, you can play through the Immortal Throne expansion with one of the original characters with almost no problems :)
My preferred settings also. You just can't beat the effect you get from that on the right game. I showed one of my mates Titans Quest in 3D and he went "wow, I never thought 3D could add so much to a game like that". He hadn't even realised what it could potentially look like. Dawn of War 2 is phenomenal like that also. Didn't know about hte Immortal Throne effects not being done correctly tho =((
If you like Dawn of War 2, you should give Company of Heroes a try. You have to rename the exe to empire.exe to get the convergence to work right though. I actually like the game better than DOW2, the physics feel better to me, and I really miss all the RTS and tactical elements they dropped from the campaign of DOW 2.
Also, you can play through the Immortal Throne expansion with one of the original characters with almost no problems :)
Great Video rowan_u, you will like Gatling Gears:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJCrYWzuCuQ[/media]
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Nice video! Will definitely check the game out.
What settings / software do you use for capture. Do you capture to an SSD?
I use FRAPS. On some older or less hectic games I can get away with capturing at full HD, but most games I gotta go down to half resolution before I can hit 30fps. I'm rendering on GTX 480 SLI with a quad core 4 GHZ overclocked intel. I didn't see a huge benefit to capturing to SSD, so I now run the games / page file off an SSD, and capture to a regular drive.
Still not sure where the bottleneck is on capture . . . I can write to my ssd at 45 MB/S with the windows file manager. It seems that should be plenty to get 60fps in full HD . . . perhaps the bottleneck is the processor?
Great Video rowan_u, you will like Gatling Gears:
[media][/media]
Nice video! Will definitely check the game out.
What settings / software do you use for capture. Do you capture to an SSD?
I use FRAPS. On some older or less hectic games I can get away with capturing at full HD, but most games I gotta go down to half resolution before I can hit 30fps. I'm rendering on GTX 480 SLI with a quad core 4 GHZ overclocked intel. I didn't see a huge benefit to capturing to SSD, so I now run the games / page file off an SSD, and capture to a regular drive.
Still not sure where the bottleneck is on capture . . . I can write to my ssd at 45 MB/S with the windows file manager. It seems that should be plenty to get 60fps in full HD . . . perhaps the bottleneck is the processor?
If you like Dawn of War 2, you should give Company of Heroes a try. You have to rename the exe to empire.exe to get the convergence to work right though. I actually like the game better than DOW2, the physics feel better to me, and I really miss all the RTS and tactical elements they dropped from the campaign of DOW 2.
Also, you can play through the Immortal Throne expansion with one of the original characters with almost no problems :)
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I've played CoH for the longest time. I prefer CoH for vs AI, but I prefer DoW2 for PvP and it has co-op campaign. Plus i'm a huge fan of the 40k universe.
If you like Dawn of War 2, you should give Company of Heroes a try. You have to rename the exe to empire.exe to get the convergence to work right though. I actually like the game better than DOW2, the physics feel better to me, and I really miss all the RTS and tactical elements they dropped from the campaign of DOW 2.
Also, you can play through the Immortal Throne expansion with one of the original characters with almost no problems :)
I've played CoH for the longest time. I prefer CoH for vs AI, but I prefer DoW2 for PvP and it has co-op campaign. Plus i'm a huge fan of the 40k universe.
[quote name='rowan_u' date='04 September 2011 - 10:15 AM' timestamp='1315145756' post='1288400']
Nice video! Will definitely check the game out.
What settings / software do you use for capture. Do you capture to an SSD?
I use FRAPS. On some older or less hectic games I can get away with capturing at full HD, but most games I gotta go down to half resolution before I can hit 30fps. I'm rendering on GTX 480 SLI with a quad core 4 GHZ overclocked intel. I didn't see a huge benefit to capturing to SSD, so I now run the games / page file off an SSD, and capture to a regular drive.
Still not sure where the bottleneck is on capture . . . I can write to my ssd at 45 MB/S with the windows file manager. It seems that should be plenty to get 60fps in full HD . . . perhaps the bottleneck is the processor?
[/quote]
With those specs your bottleneck is most likely your storage subsystem. 45 MB/s is NOT enough to record in FullHD @ 60fps, if I had to guess that SSD is an older generation, possibly Jmicron drive, as those write speeds are pretty low. You would probably be better off with even a modest 7200RPM drive instead.
You really need ~400MB/s sequential write speeds to capture 3840x1080 FullHD in S3D @ 60FPS and full resolution. You can look at your FRAPs output files to get an idea of the bitrates involved here. S3D in 1080p @ 30 FPS requires roughly 1,500Mbps or 200MB/s. S3D in 1080p @ 60 FPS requires double that, so roughly 3,000Mbps or 400MB/s sequential write speeds.
When it comes to recording uncompressed video in FRAPs I'd go for raw throughput and sequential write speeds. This is certainly one area HDDs still make more sense than SSDs, as the sequential write speeds of large platter 7200RPM drives are still very competitive with SSDs and offer an order of magnitude more storage for a fraction of the price. If your target sequential write speeds are ~400MB/s, you can get there with 2 top-tier SSDs with sequential writes in the ~200-250MB/s range in RAID0, or 3-4 large platter 7200RPM drives in RAID0 that offer 120-140MB/s sequential write speeds. In both cases, write speeds scale almost linearly with each additional drive in the array. The main difference here again is that you can get 4-6TB of storage in that HDD RAID0 array compared to ~300-400GB for an SSD RAID0 array and you'd be paying a lot less as well. Considering FRAPs video clips are capped at 4GB for only ~25-30s worth of uncompressed 1080p S3D footage, the extra capacity is very useful.
If you already have a 7200RPM HDD that's at least 1TB, I'd look at adding a 2nd one for cheap, then a 3rd etc. Most 1TB drives can be had for $50 new or less if you're willing to look on FS/FT forums. Then add a 3rd/4th etc if you still want better performance. My 3x1TB Seagate can record most games at 60FPS in S3D, but still struggle in some faster paced titles. I think 3x1.5TB WD Black would get the job done as they are just faster drives overall.
[quote name='rowan_u' date='04 September 2011 - 10:15 AM' timestamp='1315145756' post='1288400']
Nice video! Will definitely check the game out.
What settings / software do you use for capture. Do you capture to an SSD?
I use FRAPS. On some older or less hectic games I can get away with capturing at full HD, but most games I gotta go down to half resolution before I can hit 30fps. I'm rendering on GTX 480 SLI with a quad core 4 GHZ overclocked intel. I didn't see a huge benefit to capturing to SSD, so I now run the games / page file off an SSD, and capture to a regular drive.
Still not sure where the bottleneck is on capture . . . I can write to my ssd at 45 MB/S with the windows file manager. It seems that should be plenty to get 60fps in full HD . . . perhaps the bottleneck is the processor?
With those specs your bottleneck is most likely your storage subsystem. 45 MB/s is NOT enough to record in FullHD @ 60fps, if I had to guess that SSD is an older generation, possibly Jmicron drive, as those write speeds are pretty low. You would probably be better off with even a modest 7200RPM drive instead.
You really need ~400MB/s sequential write speeds to capture 3840x1080 FullHD in S3D @ 60FPS and full resolution. You can look at your FRAPs output files to get an idea of the bitrates involved here. S3D in 1080p @ 30 FPS requires roughly 1,500Mbps or 200MB/s. S3D in 1080p @ 60 FPS requires double that, so roughly 3,000Mbps or 400MB/s sequential write speeds.
When it comes to recording uncompressed video in FRAPs I'd go for raw throughput and sequential write speeds. This is certainly one area HDDs still make more sense than SSDs, as the sequential write speeds of large platter 7200RPM drives are still very competitive with SSDs and offer an order of magnitude more storage for a fraction of the price. If your target sequential write speeds are ~400MB/s, you can get there with 2 top-tier SSDs with sequential writes in the ~200-250MB/s range in RAID0, or 3-4 large platter 7200RPM drives in RAID0 that offer 120-140MB/s sequential write speeds. In both cases, write speeds scale almost linearly with each additional drive in the array. The main difference here again is that you can get 4-6TB of storage in that HDD RAID0 array compared to ~300-400GB for an SSD RAID0 array and you'd be paying a lot less as well. Considering FRAPs video clips are capped at 4GB for only ~25-30s worth of uncompressed 1080p S3D footage, the extra capacity is very useful.
If you already have a 7200RPM HDD that's at least 1TB, I'd look at adding a 2nd one for cheap, then a 3rd etc. Most 1TB drives can be had for $50 new or less if you're willing to look on FS/FT forums. Then add a 3rd/4th etc if you still want better performance. My 3x1TB Seagate can record most games at 60FPS in S3D, but still struggle in some faster paced titles. I think 3x1.5TB WD Black would get the job done as they are just faster drives overall.
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