Wow, its pretty bad, the 3d effects are great but the resolution and graphics look terrible, is this normal? My card can usually handle BF4 at 130 FPS @1080p on ultra but with 3d vision all games look very low resolution.
If its normal the kit is going back to amazon!
Wow, its pretty bad, the 3d effects are great but the resolution and graphics look terrible, is this normal? My card can usually handle BF4 at 130 FPS @1080p on ultra but with 3d vision all games look very low resolution.
can't be normal, i think with 3d the picture should look even better than without. the resolution shouldn't change while 3Dvision is on. Maybe you have to change the graphic settings again.
can't be normal, i think with 3d the picture should look even better than without. the resolution shouldn't change while 3Dvision is on. Maybe you have to change the graphic settings again.
BF4 does not work in 3D. "3D" you see in BF4 is Compatibility Mode that is not 3D for real.
Try another game - Metro, BF3, The Witcher 2, Batmans for example
BF4 does not work in 3D. "3D" you see in BF4 is Compatibility Mode that is not 3D for real.
Try another game - Metro, BF3, The Witcher 2, Batmans for example
[quote="beefcurtains1977"]Wow, its pretty bad, the 3d effects are great but the resolution and graphics look terrible, is this normal? My card can usually handle BF4 at 130 FPS @1080p on ultra but with 3d vision all games look very low resolution.
If its normal the kit is going back to amazon![/quote]
3D does *not* change the resolution or the graphical detail. What games have you looked at? Many games do not render well in 3D and you may be seeing the effect of that. Have a look at helixmod.blogspot.com for lots of community fixes. As posted above, some games are 3D ready straight up like Metro 2033 / Last Light, the Batman Games, Tomb Raider 2013, and many more. Don't forget to unlock the shortcut keys in the nvidia control panel so you can change convergence (amount of pop-out/pop-in) as well - the extra dimension of 3D means that there is not "one setting" that magically makes all games look great, you need to adjust them for each game to your liking. Are you running 3D Vision native or 3D TVPlay?
beefcurtains1977 said:Wow, its pretty bad, the 3d effects are great but the resolution and graphics look terrible, is this normal? My card can usually handle BF4 at 130 FPS @1080p on ultra but with 3d vision all games look very low resolution.
If its normal the kit is going back to amazon!
3D does *not* change the resolution or the graphical detail. What games have you looked at? Many games do not render well in 3D and you may be seeing the effect of that. Have a look at helixmod.blogspot.com for lots of community fixes. As posted above, some games are 3D ready straight up like Metro 2033 / Last Light, the Batman Games, Tomb Raider 2013, and many more. Don't forget to unlock the shortcut keys in the nvidia control panel so you can change convergence (amount of pop-out/pop-in) as well - the extra dimension of 3D means that there is not "one setting" that magically makes all games look great, you need to adjust them for each game to your liking. Are you running 3D Vision native or 3D TVPlay?
[quote="beefcurtains1977"]I meant i tried Crysis 2 and BLOPS 2 so far. Its really pixelated, i looked in the options to check and resolution is shown as 1920 x 1280
[/quote]
1920 x 1280 ??? o_O
u are doing something wrong, thats for sure. U should read some forums and guides if u can't setup 3D Vision properly. In other case YES, give it back to amazon, lol
By the way, what monitor are u using ?
beefcurtains1977 said:I meant i tried Crysis 2 and BLOPS 2 so far. Its really pixelated, i looked in the options to check and resolution is shown as 1920 x 1280
1920 x 1280 ??? o_O
u are doing something wrong, thats for sure. U should read some forums and guides if u can't setup 3D Vision properly. In other case YES, give it back to amazon, lol
By the way, what monitor are u using ?
As to the resolution - you shouldn't have any lower resolution than in 2D. You can see every pixel and detail better in 3D, so you might see SOME more pixelation, but first you need to try a 3D Vision compatible game, and BF4 is not one of them. Actually it only have fake 3D, I played it 2 days ago in a couple of rounds, and the 3D is "meh..." compared to "wow!!!!" in other games.
Quick tutorial for you:
1. I hope you have Vision 2 compatible monitor, not just Vision 1.
2. Get close to the monitor. Forget about your experience saying "no, it's too close". It is, indeed, when you view 2D, your left eye sees something different than your right, and that makes it impossible to use for example 27" monitor from 40cm. In 2D.
3D is a whole different matter. You should get as close to the screen as possible. Otherwise you are preventing yourself from seeing what 3D really can offer. I use as close distant, as the borders of Vision 2 glasses allow -it's far less than 50cm. Go with too big distance and you'll be like a person from the past, teleported to the XXI century and shown the Ferrari car. He would try the car, judge it, and all of that without even knowing that this thing car be started, that it has engine, which gives a lot more than just cool looks and 4 wheels, so it can be easily pulled by a horse.
GO CLOSE or miss the "wow" that we talk about so much. You always should do that. Even when you have 60" TV -you should still not sit 3 metres from it, while watching 3D content, cause you miss a lot.
3. Learn about 3D. The basics:
a) you need to train your eyes and brain. 30 minutes a day will be sufficient. After a week you are ready to use bigger separation (bigger separation = bigger 3D depth, and bigger the impression, that you're watching something on a huge projection screen, rather than a tine PC monitor
b) use big seperation. My favorite is 70-80%.
c) learn about convergence and making compromises here, to get 100% out of every game/level.
The first compromise - you set the image "natural" so you can focus on things that are 2cm from your virtual eyes. You get every object in scene presented properly, but in comparison to the second option... well, just read:
The second compromise - you set the convergence so the objects 2cm from your virtual eyes are displayed incorrectly. You can do this in games where there's nothing or not much in this area. For example in Trine 2, where the camera shows the game from the side, like in oldschool side-scrolling platform games, there are levels where theres almost nothing really close to the camera. By "breaking" the image of the objects in the closest distance, you gain more field for 3D depth difference. This way you can make all the objects, in all of the scene, look much more "3D", the depth will be obvious. Sometimes if you play like that and go back to default values (like in compromise 1), people say that "it looks more like flat, the "great 3D" is gone, the "wow effect" is not there.
You need to learn about this for yourself, learn what you like, be AWARE of the compromises.
d) ALWAYS maintain 60fps, with v-sync on and with NO dips below. This is far more important than you think as of now, but you'll understand why it is, after a few month of playing 3D games at 60fps.
4. Learn what's 3D, what's fake 3D, learn about the helixmod page.
5. After checking steps 1-3, buy, setup and run Trine 2.
If you'll still want to return your 3D Vision kit afterwards, then by a new monitor, since yours is obviously seriously broken, or you've gone blind. ;)
There is no other option. You'll be amazed. Just trust me, I know what I'm saying. Try my way, and prepare to be blown away.
Also, I recommend Grid 2 and Grid Autosport games. This, with Trine 2, and Rayman Legends (yeah, it has 3D and amazing one too!) are my top three "wow!!!!!" games to play in 3D Visin 2.
The only way that anyone is not amazed by stereoscopic 3D is when those persons lack the knowledge or own a cheap, bad 3D hardware.
If you have 3D Vision 1 monitor, you have decent hardware already. If you have Vision 2, you have great hardware. And if you wait and buy Oculus Rift in 2015 or 2016 you'll be able to experience absolutely flawless 3D.
Learn, prepare, setup, have fun, spread the world. :)
Personally I'm also and old gamer, I remember 8bit, 16bit, and all the breakthroughs that appeared on the way to this day, and I say that 3D is bigger revolution than 3dfx, PS1, PS2, or Amiga from C64. H
As to the resolution - you shouldn't have any lower resolution than in 2D. You can see every pixel and detail better in 3D, so you might see SOME more pixelation, but first you need to try a 3D Vision compatible game, and BF4 is not one of them. Actually it only have fake 3D, I played it 2 days ago in a couple of rounds, and the 3D is "meh..." compared to "wow!!!!" in other games.
Quick tutorial for you:
1. I hope you have Vision 2 compatible monitor, not just Vision 1.
2. Get close to the monitor. Forget about your experience saying "no, it's too close". It is, indeed, when you view 2D, your left eye sees something different than your right, and that makes it impossible to use for example 27" monitor from 40cm. In 2D.
3D is a whole different matter. You should get as close to the screen as possible. Otherwise you are preventing yourself from seeing what 3D really can offer. I use as close distant, as the borders of Vision 2 glasses allow -it's far less than 50cm. Go with too big distance and you'll be like a person from the past, teleported to the XXI century and shown the Ferrari car. He would try the car, judge it, and all of that without even knowing that this thing car be started, that it has engine, which gives a lot more than just cool looks and 4 wheels, so it can be easily pulled by a horse.
GO CLOSE or miss the "wow" that we talk about so much. You always should do that. Even when you have 60" TV -you should still not sit 3 metres from it, while watching 3D content, cause you miss a lot.
3. Learn about 3D. The basics:
a) you need to train your eyes and brain. 30 minutes a day will be sufficient. After a week you are ready to use bigger separation (bigger separation = bigger 3D depth, and bigger the impression, that you're watching something on a huge projection screen, rather than a tine PC monitor
b) use big seperation. My favorite is 70-80%.
c) learn about convergence and making compromises here, to get 100% out of every game/level.
The first compromise - you set the image "natural" so you can focus on things that are 2cm from your virtual eyes. You get every object in scene presented properly, but in comparison to the second option... well, just read:
The second compromise - you set the convergence so the objects 2cm from your virtual eyes are displayed incorrectly. You can do this in games where there's nothing or not much in this area. For example in Trine 2, where the camera shows the game from the side, like in oldschool side-scrolling platform games, there are levels where theres almost nothing really close to the camera. By "breaking" the image of the objects in the closest distance, you gain more field for 3D depth difference. This way you can make all the objects, in all of the scene, look much more "3D", the depth will be obvious. Sometimes if you play like that and go back to default values (like in compromise 1), people say that "it looks more like flat, the "great 3D" is gone, the "wow effect" is not there.
You need to learn about this for yourself, learn what you like, be AWARE of the compromises.
d) ALWAYS maintain 60fps, with v-sync on and with NO dips below. This is far more important than you think as of now, but you'll understand why it is, after a few month of playing 3D games at 60fps.
4. Learn what's 3D, what's fake 3D, learn about the helixmod page.
5. After checking steps 1-3, buy, setup and run Trine 2.
If you'll still want to return your 3D Vision kit afterwards, then by a new monitor, since yours is obviously seriously broken, or you've gone blind. ;)
There is no other option. You'll be amazed. Just trust me, I know what I'm saying. Try my way, and prepare to be blown away.
Also, I recommend Grid 2 and Grid Autosport games. This, with Trine 2, and Rayman Legends (yeah, it has 3D and amazing one too!) are my top three "wow!!!!!" games to play in 3D Visin 2.
The only way that anyone is not amazed by stereoscopic 3D is when those persons lack the knowledge or own a cheap, bad 3D hardware.
If you have 3D Vision 1 monitor, you have decent hardware already. If you have Vision 2, you have great hardware. And if you wait and buy Oculus Rift in 2015 or 2016 you'll be able to experience absolutely flawless 3D.
Learn, prepare, setup, have fun, spread the world. :)
Personally I'm also and old gamer, I remember 8bit, 16bit, and all the breakthroughs that appeared on the way to this day, and I say that 3D is bigger revolution than 3dfx, PS1, PS2, or Amiga from C64. H
Graphics and resolution should be the same as 2D. Only difference should be the game is darker which you can compensate for with the in-game brightness.
Assuming you meant 1920*1080 and you have everything setup right, then I suggest you try a game that works well with 3D, with the Helix fixes from here-
http://helixmod.blogspot.co.uk/2013/10/game-list-automatically-updated.html
Graphics and resolution should be the same as 2D. Only difference should be the game is darker which you can compensate for with the in-game brightness.
Assuming you meant 1920*1080 and you have everything setup right, then I suggest you try a game that works well with 3D, with the Helix fixes from here-
Or just go here and download a demo:
http://store.steampowered.com/app/35720/?l=english
The game has all the 3D settings you need in the options menu. Use it wisely and "wow!" guaranteed.
[quote="beefcurtains1977"]I meant i tried Crysis 2 and BLOPS 2 so far. Its really pixelated, i looked in the options to check and resolution is shown as 1920 x 1280 [/quote]
Crysis 2 has no 3D support either. Dunno about BLOPS 2
beefcurtains1977 said:I meant i tried Crysis 2 and BLOPS 2 so far. Its really pixelated, i looked in the options to check and resolution is shown as 1920 x 1280
Crysis 2 has no 3D support either. Dunno about BLOPS 2
beefcurtains1977 you do not mention what Display you are using, this could be a huge factor with what you are experiencing as well as several other factors mentioned.
You may have also gotten unlucky and received a defective display.
beefcurtains1977 you do not mention what Display you are using, this could be a huge factor with what you are experiencing as well as several other factors mentioned.
You may have also gotten unlucky and received a defective display.
If its normal the kit is going back to amazon!
Try another game - Metro, BF3, The Witcher 2, Batmans for example
3D does *not* change the resolution or the graphical detail. What games have you looked at? Many games do not render well in 3D and you may be seeing the effect of that. Have a look at helixmod.blogspot.com for lots of community fixes. As posted above, some games are 3D ready straight up like Metro 2033 / Last Light, the Batman Games, Tomb Raider 2013, and many more. Don't forget to unlock the shortcut keys in the nvidia control panel so you can change convergence (amount of pop-out/pop-in) as well - the extra dimension of 3D means that there is not "one setting" that magically makes all games look great, you need to adjust them for each game to your liking. Are you running 3D Vision native or 3D TVPlay?
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1920 x 1280 ??? o_O
u are doing something wrong, thats for sure. U should read some forums and guides if u can't setup 3D Vision properly. In other case YES, give it back to amazon, lol
By the way, what monitor are u using ?
Quick tutorial for you:
1. I hope you have Vision 2 compatible monitor, not just Vision 1.
2. Get close to the monitor. Forget about your experience saying "no, it's too close". It is, indeed, when you view 2D, your left eye sees something different than your right, and that makes it impossible to use for example 27" monitor from 40cm. In 2D.
3D is a whole different matter. You should get as close to the screen as possible. Otherwise you are preventing yourself from seeing what 3D really can offer. I use as close distant, as the borders of Vision 2 glasses allow -it's far less than 50cm. Go with too big distance and you'll be like a person from the past, teleported to the XXI century and shown the Ferrari car. He would try the car, judge it, and all of that without even knowing that this thing car be started, that it has engine, which gives a lot more than just cool looks and 4 wheels, so it can be easily pulled by a horse.
GO CLOSE or miss the "wow" that we talk about so much. You always should do that. Even when you have 60" TV -you should still not sit 3 metres from it, while watching 3D content, cause you miss a lot.
3. Learn about 3D. The basics:
a) you need to train your eyes and brain. 30 minutes a day will be sufficient. After a week you are ready to use bigger separation (bigger separation = bigger 3D depth, and bigger the impression, that you're watching something on a huge projection screen, rather than a tine PC monitor
b) use big seperation. My favorite is 70-80%.
c) learn about convergence and making compromises here, to get 100% out of every game/level.
The first compromise - you set the image "natural" so you can focus on things that are 2cm from your virtual eyes. You get every object in scene presented properly, but in comparison to the second option... well, just read:
The second compromise - you set the convergence so the objects 2cm from your virtual eyes are displayed incorrectly. You can do this in games where there's nothing or not much in this area. For example in Trine 2, where the camera shows the game from the side, like in oldschool side-scrolling platform games, there are levels where theres almost nothing really close to the camera. By "breaking" the image of the objects in the closest distance, you gain more field for 3D depth difference. This way you can make all the objects, in all of the scene, look much more "3D", the depth will be obvious. Sometimes if you play like that and go back to default values (like in compromise 1), people say that "it looks more like flat, the "great 3D" is gone, the "wow effect" is not there.
You need to learn about this for yourself, learn what you like, be AWARE of the compromises.
d) ALWAYS maintain 60fps, with v-sync on and with NO dips below. This is far more important than you think as of now, but you'll understand why it is, after a few month of playing 3D games at 60fps.
4. Learn what's 3D, what's fake 3D, learn about the helixmod page.
5. After checking steps 1-3, buy, setup and run Trine 2.
If you'll still want to return your 3D Vision kit afterwards, then by a new monitor, since yours is obviously seriously broken, or you've gone blind. ;)
There is no other option. You'll be amazed. Just trust me, I know what I'm saying. Try my way, and prepare to be blown away.
Also, I recommend Grid 2 and Grid Autosport games. This, with Trine 2, and Rayman Legends (yeah, it has 3D and amazing one too!) are my top three "wow!!!!!" games to play in 3D Visin 2.
The only way that anyone is not amazed by stereoscopic 3D is when those persons lack the knowledge or own a cheap, bad 3D hardware.
If you have 3D Vision 1 monitor, you have decent hardware already. If you have Vision 2, you have great hardware. And if you wait and buy Oculus Rift in 2015 or 2016 you'll be able to experience absolutely flawless 3D.
Learn, prepare, setup, have fun, spread the world. :)
Personally I'm also and old gamer, I remember 8bit, 16bit, and all the breakthroughs that appeared on the way to this day, and I say that 3D is bigger revolution than 3dfx, PS1, PS2, or Amiga from C64. H
Assuming you meant 1920*1080 and you have everything setup right, then I suggest you try a game that works well with 3D, with the Helix fixes from here-
http://helixmod.blogspot.co.uk/2013/10/game-list-automatically-updated.html
http://store.steampowered.com/app/35720/?l=english
The game has all the 3D settings you need in the options menu. Use it wisely and "wow!" guaranteed.
Crysis 2 has no 3D support either. Dunno about BLOPS 2
You may have also gotten unlucky and received a defective display.
I have a GTX 970 and Benq 27 inch monitor. Reinstalled and all working ok.
Glad to hear it! It's a great experience that game.
Rig: Intel i7-8700K @4.7GHz, 16Gb Ram, SSD, GTX 1080Ti, Win10x64, Asus VG278