Everything worked fine with my Dell CRT monitor with 91.31 stereo drivers installed for my GeForce 7600GS.
I just bought a Dell 1907fpc 19" LCD monitor, installed the inf.
I uninstalled "Nvidia Windows 95/98/ME/2000/XP Stereo drivers" from Add/Remove programs, then reinstalled them. By the way, in Add/Remove Programs it also lists "NVIDIA Drivers" (no size info) and "NVIDIA WDM Drivers" (also no size info). I didn't do anything to these. Only uninstalled/reinstalled "Nvidia Windows 95/98/ME/2000/XP Stereo drivers".
I rebooted my PC.
Now, when I put on my shutterglasses, my LCD monitor is all dark unless I move to the left or right side, at which time the screen gets somewhat brighter, but when I "Launch Test Application" from the Display Properties/Settings/Advanced/GeForce 7600 GS tab , I'm just seeing double-images and NO 3D. If I sit directly centered in front of my LCD monitor, it's all dark.
I've purposely blocked the IR transmitter to make sure the LCD shutterglasses are working properly, and they are.
What am I doing wrong? I seem to remember a long time ago when I updated my stereo drivers that the installation asked me whether I was using a CRT or LCD monitor. I was never asked this when I uninstalled/reinstalled the 91.31 Stereo drivers this time. HELP! :'(
Everything worked fine with my Dell CRT monitor with 91.31 stereo drivers installed for my GeForce 7600GS.
I just bought a Dell 1907fpc 19" LCD monitor, installed the inf.
I uninstalled "Nvidia Windows 95/98/ME/2000/XP Stereo drivers" from Add/Remove programs, then reinstalled them. By the way, in Add/Remove Programs it also lists "NVIDIA Drivers" (no size info) and "NVIDIA WDM Drivers" (also no size info). I didn't do anything to these. Only uninstalled/reinstalled "Nvidia Windows 95/98/ME/2000/XP Stereo drivers".
I rebooted my PC.
Now, when I put on my shutterglasses, my LCD monitor is all dark unless I move to the left or right side, at which time the screen gets somewhat brighter, but when I "Launch Test Application" from the Display Properties/Settings/Advanced/GeForce 7600 GS tab , I'm just seeing double-images and NO 3D. If I sit directly centered in front of my LCD monitor, it's all dark.
I've purposely blocked the IR transmitter to make sure the LCD shutterglasses are working properly, and they are.
What am I doing wrong? I seem to remember a long time ago when I updated my stereo drivers that the installation asked me whether I was using a CRT or LCD monitor. I was never asked this when I uninstalled/reinstalled the 91.31 Stereo drivers this time. HELP! :'(
This is probably the lcd-monitor. They arent capable to handle any higher refreshrates. I've also heard otherwise that some people actually made it working but with my lcd (samsung syncmaster 193) and my lcd-projectors it's a nogo. Have also tried those e-dimensional drivers from their site with no success either. They're said to work on lcd's though. :(
This is probably the lcd-monitor. They arent capable to handle any higher refreshrates. I've also heard otherwise that some people actually made it working but with my lcd (samsung syncmaster 193) and my lcd-projectors it's a nogo. Have also tried those e-dimensional drivers from their site with no success either. They're said to work on lcd's though. :(
My LCD shutterglasses are Edimensional. I pulled out that old installation disc, removed Nvidia's 91.31 stereo drivers and installed Edimensional's LCD stereo drivers off their disc.
Now, NOTHING is in 3D! Not even "left/right eye" double image on the screen anymore. It's as if I don't even have ANY stereo drivers installed at all. Of course, the screen is still TOTALLY BLACK when wearing the LCD shutterglasses (that's the ONLY thing that still works lol!). What a bummer! Oh well, another $100 gimmick into the junk drawer. If they ever get them to work correctly with LCD monitors, I'll pull 'em back out again (one of these years!).
My LCD shutterglasses are Edimensional. I pulled out that old installation disc, removed Nvidia's 91.31 stereo drivers and installed Edimensional's LCD stereo drivers off their disc.
Now, NOTHING is in 3D! Not even "left/right eye" double image on the screen anymore. It's as if I don't even have ANY stereo drivers installed at all. Of course, the screen is still TOTALLY BLACK when wearing the LCD shutterglasses (that's the ONLY thing that still works lol!). What a bummer! Oh well, another $100 gimmick into the junk drawer. If they ever get them to work correctly with LCD monitors, I'll pull 'em back out again (one of these years!).
They'll never work with LCD monitors. LCD monitors suck. It is not the fault of the glasses. You just stupidly bought a screen that can't update itself faster than 60Hz. So get yourself a 19inch CRT Monitor.
Or get yourself a 100 cents pair of anaglyph red/cyan glasses to use with your LCD screen.
They'll never work with LCD monitors. LCD monitors suck. It is not the fault of the glasses. You just stupidly bought a screen that can't update itself faster than 60Hz. So get yourself a 19inch CRT Monitor.
Or get yourself a 100 cents pair of anaglyph red/cyan glasses to use with your LCD screen.
Actually, I still have my 22" CRT monitor which I could hook back up. It's just that it's a monster in size and takes up half of my desk. And my new 19" LCD monitor refreshes at [b][u]75Hz[/u][/b], not 60Hz (still not that great). Of course, if stereo drivers are available for LCD monitors, one would be STUPID not to try them, correct?
Just to educate you a little, if you sit yourself down & add them all up, "100 CENT" actually equals $1. I have a vast collection of 3D movies in both anaglyph (that would be "red/cyan" to you) and field-sequential 3D and own 8 pair of wireless LC shutterglasses and over 200 pair of anaglyph 3D glasses which I buy in bulk for my 3D parties here in Hollywood, CA and never pay more than 35 cents a pair for. None of my 3D movies utilize "red/blue", "yellow/purple" nor any of the other the other funky anaglyph 3D color combinations out there.
By the way, I may be [i][b]ignorant[/b][/i] to this particular 3D PC driver situation, but I'm not stupid by any means and don't appreciate your calling me so. I went to college and have a Bachelor degree. Why the insult? Are you 12? Santa didn't bring you everything on your list this year? :P
Actually, I still have my 22" CRT monitor which I could hook back up. It's just that it's a monster in size and takes up half of my desk. And my new 19" LCD monitor refreshes at 75Hz, not 60Hz (still not that great). Of course, if stereo drivers are available for LCD monitors, one would be STUPID not to try them, correct?
Just to educate you a little, if you sit yourself down & add them all up, "100 CENT" actually equals $1. I have a vast collection of 3D movies in both anaglyph (that would be "red/cyan" to you) and field-sequential 3D and own 8 pair of wireless LC shutterglasses and over 200 pair of anaglyph 3D glasses which I buy in bulk for my 3D parties here in Hollywood, CA and never pay more than 35 cents a pair for. None of my 3D movies utilize "red/blue", "yellow/purple" nor any of the other the other funky anaglyph 3D color combinations out there.
By the way, I may be ignorant to this particular 3D PC driver situation, but I'm not stupid by any means and don't appreciate your calling me so. I went to college and have a Bachelor degree. Why the insult? Are you 12? Santa didn't bring you everything on your list this year? :P
Well, 3dguy!. If i was in your place i would definitely get a bigger desk to make room for your 22"er! If the room is too small for a bigger desk then i would get a bigger room.. if the house was too small... :D
Stereo is too much important for that. /geek.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':geek:' />
Anyway i wish you good luck though. /wave.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':wave:' />
Well, 3dguy!. If i was in your place i would definitely get a bigger desk to make room for your 22"er! If the room is too small for a bigger desk then i would get a bigger room.. if the house was too small... :D
Stereo is too much important for that. /geek.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':geek:' />
Anyway i wish you good luck though. /wave.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':wave:' />
3D parties in Hollywood. Sounds pretty awesome /thumbup.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':thumbup:' /> Join me and other 3D gamers in Fear or Live for Speed via the MTBS3D.com forum. Allways fun to play against other 3D gamers.
3D parties in Hollywood. Sounds pretty awesome /thumbup.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':thumbup:' /> Join me and other 3D gamers in Fear or Live for Speed via the MTBS3D.com forum. Allways fun to play against other 3D gamers.
C'mon you wise guys of stereo 3d, You should rather give that poor 3d guy a reasonable explanation [i]why[/i] his rig isn't working:
first of all, no matter what refresh rates your panel can [i]accept[/i] the panel's refresh rate is still stuck with 60 Hz (you would notice if your glasses would be working - 60 Hz gives [u]less[/u] flicker than 72/75Hz)
Secondly LCD panels are polarized, as Shutter glasses are. now if the polarization of the glasses unfortunately is out of phase with the panel (90° that is) no light can pass through...tilt your head by 45° and your fine (relatively fine thatr is) now you can enjoy the flicker show and maybe reconsider the anaglyph solution...
Since every LCD panel can have a different polar filter orientation it is frankly speaking more than bold that some (or one) company may be promoting their glasses as "LCD compatible" unless they give you the option to rotate the lenses, but we all now what to think of these companies by now, don't we...
C'mon you wise guys of stereo 3d, You should rather give that poor 3d guy a reasonable explanation why his rig isn't working:
first of all, no matter what refresh rates your panel can accept the panel's refresh rate is still stuck with 60 Hz (you would notice if your glasses would be working - 60 Hz gives less flicker than 72/75Hz)
Secondly LCD panels are polarized, as Shutter glasses are. now if the polarization of the glasses unfortunately is out of phase with the panel (90° that is) no light can pass through...tilt your head by 45° and your fine (relatively fine thatr is) now you can enjoy the flicker show and maybe reconsider the anaglyph solution...
Since every LCD panel can have a different polar filter orientation it is frankly speaking more than bold that some (or one) company may be promoting their glasses as "LCD compatible" unless they give you the option to rotate the lenses, but we all now what to think of these companies by now, don't we...
Actually it is lcd-monitors that can't handle the fast imageshifting. The glasses i had is e-d with 45° polarisation and that part works with my lcd-screen/lcd-projectors which have 0/90° polarisation. What doesn't work is simply that the lcd technique isn't capable of shifting the whole display so many times per second (read above i've heard some people actually made it working though). I don't get a black screen when trying. The result is more a senseless flicker with no experienced 3d-effect regardless of any preset refreshrates. The ms value of the screens is the time it takes for one pixel to shift from one state to another. If you have 4ms it would mean a handling of at least 100 hz without problem. But that's not the fact. It's the electronic inside that's not capable of sampling the whole image that fast. To scan a whole frame from the vga-output it maybe takes 4 frames before the a/d-converter managed to scan the whole picture. That way you'll only have 25Hz refreshrate even if 100Hz is selected. Better (Way better!!!) a-d converters in the lcd's probably will do the trick.
tip: If somebody have any kind of 3d effect, i think lowering the resolution quite a bit could make things better too.
Actually it is lcd-monitors that can't handle the fast imageshifting. The glasses i had is e-d with 45° polarisation and that part works with my lcd-screen/lcd-projectors which have 0/90° polarisation. What doesn't work is simply that the lcd technique isn't capable of shifting the whole display so many times per second (read above i've heard some people actually made it working though). I don't get a black screen when trying. The result is more a senseless flicker with no experienced 3d-effect regardless of any preset refreshrates. The ms value of the screens is the time it takes for one pixel to shift from one state to another. If you have 4ms it would mean a handling of at least 100 hz without problem. But that's not the fact. It's the electronic inside that's not capable of sampling the whole image that fast. To scan a whole frame from the vga-output it maybe takes 4 frames before the a/d-converter managed to scan the whole picture. That way you'll only have 25Hz refreshrate even if 100Hz is selected. Better (Way better!!!) a-d converters in the lcd's probably will do the trick.
tip: If somebody have any kind of 3d effect, i think lowering the resolution quite a bit could make things better too.
I just bought a Dell 1907fpc 19" LCD monitor, installed the inf.
I uninstalled "Nvidia Windows 95/98/ME/2000/XP Stereo drivers" from Add/Remove programs, then reinstalled them. By the way, in Add/Remove Programs it also lists "NVIDIA Drivers" (no size info) and "NVIDIA WDM Drivers" (also no size info). I didn't do anything to these. Only uninstalled/reinstalled "Nvidia Windows 95/98/ME/2000/XP Stereo drivers".
I rebooted my PC.
Now, when I put on my shutterglasses, my LCD monitor is all dark unless I move to the left or right side, at which time the screen gets somewhat brighter, but when I "Launch Test Application" from the Display Properties/Settings/Advanced/GeForce 7600 GS tab , I'm just seeing double-images and NO 3D. If I sit directly centered in front of my LCD monitor, it's all dark.
I've purposely blocked the IR transmitter to make sure the LCD shutterglasses are working properly, and they are.
What am I doing wrong? I seem to remember a long time ago when I updated my stereo drivers that the installation asked me whether I was using a CRT or LCD monitor. I was never asked this when I uninstalled/reinstalled the 91.31 Stereo drivers this time. HELP! :'(
I just bought a Dell 1907fpc 19" LCD monitor, installed the inf.
I uninstalled "Nvidia Windows 95/98/ME/2000/XP Stereo drivers" from Add/Remove programs, then reinstalled them. By the way, in Add/Remove Programs it also lists "NVIDIA Drivers" (no size info) and "NVIDIA WDM Drivers" (also no size info). I didn't do anything to these. Only uninstalled/reinstalled "Nvidia Windows 95/98/ME/2000/XP Stereo drivers".
I rebooted my PC.
Now, when I put on my shutterglasses, my LCD monitor is all dark unless I move to the left or right side, at which time the screen gets somewhat brighter, but when I "Launch Test Application" from the Display Properties/Settings/Advanced/GeForce 7600 GS tab , I'm just seeing double-images and NO 3D. If I sit directly centered in front of my LCD monitor, it's all dark.
I've purposely blocked the IR transmitter to make sure the LCD shutterglasses are working properly, and they are.
What am I doing wrong? I seem to remember a long time ago when I updated my stereo drivers that the installation asked me whether I was using a CRT or LCD monitor. I was never asked this when I uninstalled/reinstalled the 91.31 Stereo drivers this time. HELP! :'(
cheers
cheers
Mb: Asus P5W DH Deluxe
Cpu: C2D E6600
Gb: Nvidia 7900GT + 8800GTX
3D:100" passive projector polarized setup + 22" IZ3D
Stereodrivers: Iz3d & Tridef ignition and nvidia old school.
My LCD shutterglasses are Edimensional. I pulled out that old installation disc, removed Nvidia's 91.31 stereo drivers and installed Edimensional's LCD stereo drivers off their disc.
Now, NOTHING is in 3D! Not even "left/right eye" double image on the screen anymore. It's as if I don't even have ANY stereo drivers installed at all. Of course, the screen is still TOTALLY BLACK when wearing the LCD shutterglasses (that's the ONLY thing that still works lol!). What a bummer! Oh well, another $100 gimmick into the junk drawer. If they ever get them to work correctly with LCD monitors, I'll pull 'em back out again (one of these years!).
Thanks for your input and Happy New Year!
My LCD shutterglasses are Edimensional. I pulled out that old installation disc, removed Nvidia's 91.31 stereo drivers and installed Edimensional's LCD stereo drivers off their disc.
Now, NOTHING is in 3D! Not even "left/right eye" double image on the screen anymore. It's as if I don't even have ANY stereo drivers installed at all. Of course, the screen is still TOTALLY BLACK when wearing the LCD shutterglasses (that's the ONLY thing that still works lol!). What a bummer! Oh well, another $100 gimmick into the junk drawer. If they ever get them to work correctly with LCD monitors, I'll pull 'em back out again (one of these years!).
Thanks for your input and Happy New Year!
Or get yourself a 100 cents pair of anaglyph red/cyan glasses to use with your LCD screen.
Or get yourself a 100 cents pair of anaglyph red/cyan glasses to use with your LCD screen.
Just to educate you a little, if you sit yourself down & add them all up, "100 CENT" actually equals $1. I have a vast collection of 3D movies in both anaglyph (that would be "red/cyan" to you) and field-sequential 3D and own 8 pair of wireless LC shutterglasses and over 200 pair of anaglyph 3D glasses which I buy in bulk for my 3D parties here in Hollywood, CA and never pay more than 35 cents a pair for. None of my 3D movies utilize "red/blue", "yellow/purple" nor any of the other the other funky anaglyph 3D color combinations out there.
By the way, I may be [i][b]ignorant[/b][/i] to this particular 3D PC driver situation, but I'm not stupid by any means and don't appreciate your calling me so. I went to college and have a Bachelor degree. Why the insult? Are you 12? Santa didn't bring you everything on your list this year? :P
Just to educate you a little, if you sit yourself down & add them all up, "100 CENT" actually equals $1. I have a vast collection of 3D movies in both anaglyph (that would be "red/cyan" to you) and field-sequential 3D and own 8 pair of wireless LC shutterglasses and over 200 pair of anaglyph 3D glasses which I buy in bulk for my 3D parties here in Hollywood, CA and never pay more than 35 cents a pair for. None of my 3D movies utilize "red/blue", "yellow/purple" nor any of the other the other funky anaglyph 3D color combinations out there.
By the way, I may be ignorant to this particular 3D PC driver situation, but I'm not stupid by any means and don't appreciate your calling me so. I went to college and have a Bachelor degree. Why the insult? Are you 12? Santa didn't bring you everything on your list this year? :P
Stereo is too much important for that.
Anyway i wish you good luck though.
cheers
Stereo is too much important for that.
Anyway i wish you good luck though.
cheers
Mb: Asus P5W DH Deluxe
Cpu: C2D E6600
Gb: Nvidia 7900GT + 8800GTX
3D:100" passive projector polarized setup + 22" IZ3D
Stereodrivers: Iz3d & Tridef ignition and nvidia old school.
first of all, no matter what refresh rates your panel can [i]accept[/i] the panel's refresh rate is still stuck with 60 Hz (you would notice if your glasses would be working - 60 Hz gives [u]less[/u] flicker than 72/75Hz)
Secondly LCD panels are polarized, as Shutter glasses are. now if the polarization of the glasses unfortunately is out of phase with the panel (90° that is) no light can pass through...tilt your head by 45° and your fine (relatively fine thatr is) now you can enjoy the flicker show and maybe reconsider the anaglyph solution...
Since every LCD panel can have a different polar filter orientation it is frankly speaking more than bold that some (or one) company may be promoting their glasses as "LCD compatible" unless they give you the option to rotate the lenses, but we all now what to think of these companies by now, don't we...
first of all, no matter what refresh rates your panel can accept the panel's refresh rate is still stuck with 60 Hz (you would notice if your glasses would be working - 60 Hz gives less flicker than 72/75Hz)
Secondly LCD panels are polarized, as Shutter glasses are. now if the polarization of the glasses unfortunately is out of phase with the panel (90° that is) no light can pass through...tilt your head by 45° and your fine (relatively fine thatr is) now you can enjoy the flicker show and maybe reconsider the anaglyph solution...
Since every LCD panel can have a different polar filter orientation it is frankly speaking more than bold that some (or one) company may be promoting their glasses as "LCD compatible" unless they give you the option to rotate the lenses, but we all now what to think of these companies by now, don't we...
Actually it is lcd-monitors that can't handle the fast imageshifting. The glasses i had is e-d with 45° polarisation and that part works with my lcd-screen/lcd-projectors which have 0/90° polarisation. What doesn't work is simply that the lcd technique isn't capable of shifting the whole display so many times per second (read above i've heard some people actually made it working though). I don't get a black screen when trying. The result is more a senseless flicker with no experienced 3d-effect regardless of any preset refreshrates. The ms value of the screens is the time it takes for one pixel to shift from one state to another. If you have 4ms it would mean a handling of at least 100 hz without problem. But that's not the fact. It's the electronic inside that's not capable of sampling the whole image that fast. To scan a whole frame from the vga-output it maybe takes 4 frames before the a/d-converter managed to scan the whole picture. That way you'll only have 25Hz refreshrate even if 100Hz is selected. Better (Way better!!!) a-d converters in the lcd's probably will do the trick.
tip: If somebody have any kind of 3d effect, i think lowering the resolution quite a bit could make things better too.
cheers
Actually it is lcd-monitors that can't handle the fast imageshifting. The glasses i had is e-d with 45° polarisation and that part works with my lcd-screen/lcd-projectors which have 0/90° polarisation. What doesn't work is simply that the lcd technique isn't capable of shifting the whole display so many times per second (read above i've heard some people actually made it working though). I don't get a black screen when trying. The result is more a senseless flicker with no experienced 3d-effect regardless of any preset refreshrates. The ms value of the screens is the time it takes for one pixel to shift from one state to another. If you have 4ms it would mean a handling of at least 100 hz without problem. But that's not the fact. It's the electronic inside that's not capable of sampling the whole image that fast. To scan a whole frame from the vga-output it maybe takes 4 frames before the a/d-converter managed to scan the whole picture. That way you'll only have 25Hz refreshrate even if 100Hz is selected. Better (Way better!!!) a-d converters in the lcd's probably will do the trick.
tip: If somebody have any kind of 3d effect, i think lowering the resolution quite a bit could make things better too.
cheers
Mb: Asus P5W DH Deluxe
Cpu: C2D E6600
Gb: Nvidia 7900GT + 8800GTX
3D:100" passive projector polarized setup + 22" IZ3D
Stereodrivers: Iz3d & Tridef ignition and nvidia old school.