active 3D vs pasive 4K 3D (if Nvidia let us play pasive things with their driver)
I want to know the difference between active 1080p 3D vs pasive 4k 3D (if that is possible). Some years ago I had a Zalman pasive 3D monitor (I have even forgotten the name, I think it was ZM-M2020W Trimon). That monitor was 1680x1050 resolution, and once you lost the half of the vertical lines because of the pasive 3D system, the result was not as good as desired in terms of image quality. But I remember the 3D experience more confortable.
I wonder what is the image result playing in 3D with pasive glasses if, instead of 1080 vertical lines, we could have 2048 lines. I suppose that with 2048 you would probably not notice jaggies (one of the big cons with the zalman monitor). The big problem is that you have to run 3D with a super powerfull machine, because not only 3D but also super high resolution..., but it would be valid for old games at least.
I am curious to know if anybody have test it (pasive 4k 3D, or similar).
I want to know the difference between active 1080p 3D vs pasive 4k 3D (if that is possible). Some years ago I had a Zalman pasive 3D monitor (I have even forgotten the name, I think it was ZM-M2020W Trimon). That monitor was 1680x1050 resolution, and once you lost the half of the vertical lines because of the pasive 3D system, the result was not as good as desired in terms of image quality. But I remember the 3D experience more confortable.
I wonder what is the image result playing in 3D with pasive glasses if, instead of 1080 vertical lines, we could have 2048 lines. I suppose that with 2048 you would probably not notice jaggies (one of the big cons with the zalman monitor). The big problem is that you have to run 3D with a super powerfull machine, because not only 3D but also super high resolution..., but it would be valid for old games at least.
I am curious to know if anybody have test it (pasive 4k 3D, or similar).
Text is one of the biggest issues when I use my Passive LG TV for gaming, it 1080P. No idea if a higher resolution would help at all.
I mostly use for it movies with multiple viewers.
Higher resolution (2160p versus 1080p) absolutely helps text appearance. I am currently using my passive 4K LG TV exclusively for 3D PC gaming - it works great! Witcher 3, Dragon Age Inquisition, Shadow of Mordor, and other games look great with this display. With 2160p game resolution, I suggest using at least one 980 Ti to get reasonable performance with newer DX11 games, however.
See [url]https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/818183/3d-vision/gtx-970-4k-3d-vision-gaming-success-with-lgub850v-passive-tv-/post/4510149/#4510149[/url] for EDID mod, which enables 3840x1080 pixels for each eye @ 60 fps. In addition, I suggest downloading 3DVisionEye Swapper application (also referenced later in this link). A similar EDID mod does not exist yet for active 4K TVs.
Higher resolution (2160p versus 1080p) absolutely helps text appearance. I am currently using my passive 4K LG TV exclusively for 3D PC gaming - it works great! Witcher 3, Dragon Age Inquisition, Shadow of Mordor, and other games look great with this display. With 2160p game resolution, I suggest using at least one 980 Ti to get reasonable performance with newer DX11 games, however.
[quote=""]Text is one of the biggest issues when I use my Passive LG TV for gaming, it 1080P. No idea if a higher resolution would help at all.
I mostly use for it movies with multiple viewers.[/quote]
Text is a problem?
What TV do you have. Before the UC970 I had LW5500 which was 1080p but there was absolutely no problem reading smallest text in any game. I also didn't look lower resolution.
said:Text is one of the biggest issues when I use my Passive LG TV for gaming, it 1080P. No idea if a higher resolution would help at all.
I mostly use for it movies with multiple viewers.
Text is a problem?
What TV do you have. Before the UC970 I had LW5500 which was 1080p but there was absolutely no problem reading smallest text in any game. I also didn't look lower resolution.
Intel i7 8086K
Gigabyte GTX 1080Ti Aorus Extreme
DDR4 2x8gb 3200mhz Cl14
TV LG OLED65E6V
Windows 10 64bits
[quote="whyme466"]Higher resolution (2160p versus 1080p) absolutely helps text appearance. I am currently using my passive 4K LG TV exclusively for 3D PC gaming - it works great! Witcher 3, Dragon Age Inquisition, Shadow of Mordor, and other games look great with this display. With 2160p game resolution, I suggest using at least one 980 Ti to get reasonable performance with newer DX11 games, however.
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Are you using Nvidia 3D Vision drivers to play with pasive glasses? Does Nvidia let you do that selecting your tv and pasive glasses? or you are using other drivers designed to play with pasive glasse?
whyme466 said:Higher resolution (2160p versus 1080p) absolutely helps text appearance. I am currently using my passive 4K LG TV exclusively for 3D PC gaming - it works great! Witcher 3, Dragon Age Inquisition, Shadow of Mordor, and other games look great with this display. With 2160p game resolution, I suggest using at least one 980 Ti to get reasonable performance with newer DX11 games, however.
Are you using Nvidia 3D Vision drivers to play with pasive glasses? Does Nvidia let you do that selecting your tv and pasive glasses? or you are using other drivers designed to play with pasive glasse?
Yes, NVidia drivers are providing the 3D support for the LG passive display, via an EDID override of the Generic Monitor profile, via Windows Device Manager. This override must be re-installed with every driver update (I am currently using 353.62). This override forces the 2D Desktop to 3840x2160 resolution, with interleaved 3D display. To improve performance, some games support in-game resolution like 1080p or 1440p (like Inquisition and Shadow of Mordor), while other games (like Witcher 3) do not display correct full size screen when using other resolutions like 1080p.
As discussed in the prior link message thread, 3D gaming support is provided by Optimized for NVIDIA GeForce, rather than 3DTV Play, when this EDID overrides NVIDIA's driver for the display device.
Yes, NVidia drivers are providing the 3D support for the LG passive display, via an EDID override of the Generic Monitor profile, via Windows Device Manager. This override must be re-installed with every driver update (I am currently using 353.62). This override forces the 2D Desktop to 3840x2160 resolution, with interleaved 3D display. To improve performance, some games support in-game resolution like 1080p or 1440p (like Inquisition and Shadow of Mordor), while other games (like Witcher 3) do not display correct full size screen when using other resolutions like 1080p.
As discussed in the prior link message thread, 3D gaming support is provided by Optimized for NVIDIA GeForce, rather than 3DTV Play, when this EDID overrides NVIDIA's driver for the display device.
I wonder what is the image result playing in 3D with pasive glasses if, instead of 1080 vertical lines, we could have 2048 lines. I suppose that with 2048 you would probably not notice jaggies (one of the big cons with the zalman monitor). The big problem is that you have to run 3D with a super powerfull machine, because not only 3D but also super high resolution..., but it would be valid for old games at least.
I am curious to know if anybody have test it (pasive 4k 3D, or similar).
- Windows 7 64bits (SSD OCZ-Vertez2 128Gb)
- "ASUS P6X58D-E" motherboard
- "MSI GTX 660 TI"
- "Intel Xeon X5670" @4000MHz CPU (20.0[12-25]x200MHz)
- RAM 16 Gb DDR3 1600
- "Dell S2716DG" monitor (2560x1440 @144Hz)
- "Corsair Carbide 600C" case
- Labrador dog (cinnamon edition)
I mostly use for it movies with multiple viewers.
See https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/818183/3d-vision/gtx-970-4k-3d-vision-gaming-success-with-lgub850v-passive-tv-/post/4510149/#4510149 for EDID mod, which enables 3840x1080 pixels for each eye @ 60 fps. In addition, I suggest downloading 3DVisionEye Swapper application (also referenced later in this link). A similar EDID mod does not exist yet for active 4K TVs.
Text is a problem?
What TV do you have. Before the UC970 I had LW5500 which was 1080p but there was absolutely no problem reading smallest text in any game. I also didn't look lower resolution.
Intel i7 8086K
Gigabyte GTX 1080Ti Aorus Extreme
DDR4 2x8gb 3200mhz Cl14
TV LG OLED65E6V
Windows 10 64bits
Are you using Nvidia 3D Vision drivers to play with pasive glasses? Does Nvidia let you do that selecting your tv and pasive glasses? or you are using other drivers designed to play with pasive glasse?
- Windows 7 64bits (SSD OCZ-Vertez2 128Gb)
- "ASUS P6X58D-E" motherboard
- "MSI GTX 660 TI"
- "Intel Xeon X5670" @4000MHz CPU (20.0[12-25]x200MHz)
- RAM 16 Gb DDR3 1600
- "Dell S2716DG" monitor (2560x1440 @144Hz)
- "Corsair Carbide 600C" case
- Labrador dog (cinnamon edition)
As discussed in the prior link message thread, 3D gaming support is provided by Optimized for NVIDIA GeForce, rather than 3DTV Play, when this EDID overrides NVIDIA's driver for the display device.