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I was hoping to speak to you Chiri. I implore you to consider my words though.I understand things changed very suddenly. I personally feel skilled developers should make money if they desire/choose.
Personally I dont feel the campaign should of ended. I just felt people needed to be aware. I think even Helix would liike to see what you can do. Perhaps you will always be competition for his free alternative. But tridef is competition to NVIDIA. Personally I have great respect for Tridef [Nvidia not so much]. Just give a product people will buy. I still have great respect for you [No offense to elbarterino, but I do not know him].
Im sorry if it sounds like I ever attacked you guys but there was too much "passion" in this thread. I truly do look up to helix. So I may inadvertedly sounded hostile.
I was hoping to speak to you Chiri. I implore you to consider my words though.I understand things changed very suddenly. I personally feel skilled developers should make money if they desire/choose.
Personally I dont feel the campaign should of ended. I just felt people needed to be aware. I think even Helix would liike to see what you can do. Perhaps you will always be competition for his free alternative. But tridef is competition to NVIDIA. Personally I have great respect for Tridef [Nvidia not so much]. Just give a product people will buy. I still have great respect for you [No offense to elbarterino, but I do not know him].
Im sorry if it sounds like I ever attacked you guys but there was too much "passion" in this thread. I truly do look up to helix. So I may inadvertedly sounded hostile.
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[quote="Chiri"][quote="-=HeliX=-"]But this is a bit oftop already and I'll better to stop it :) [/quote]
There's no misunderstanding possible about his intentions. But I'm very happy Helix is back and I'm also grateful for all the great work and patches he's doing. Thats a huge amount of time he's spending for all of us and I have no idea how he's capable of managing that.[/quote]It seems clear that there has been some misunderstanding. Email and forums are one of the most primitive forms of communication because of the lack of other cues as to intention. Please forgive me if I'm reading too much into this.
I do not believe that Helix was suggesting he should stop your mod. English is a second language for Helix, and I believe he was trying to say: "But this is a bit off topic already, and I should stop talking."
-=HeliX=- said:But this is a bit oftop already and I'll better to stop it :)
There's no misunderstanding possible about his intentions. But I'm very happy Helix is back and I'm also grateful for all the great work and patches he's doing. Thats a huge amount of time he's spending for all of us and I have no idea how he's capable of managing that.
It seems clear that there has been some misunderstanding. Email and forums are one of the most primitive forms of communication because of the lack of other cues as to intention. Please forgive me if I'm reading too much into this.
I do not believe that Helix was suggesting he should stop your mod. English is a second language for Helix, and I believe he was trying to say: "But this is a bit off topic already, and I should stop talking."
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As eqzitara said below, total misunderstanding. 'offtop' = off topic. Is Helix really not native English speaking? offtop is the kind of thing we might say in speech in the British English.
I think it's more the Swiss are having problems with englishisms. Not surprising, ich mache auch viele fehle mit meine Deutsch verstandinis!
As eqzitara said below, total misunderstanding. 'offtop' = off topic. Is Helix really not native English speaking? offtop is the kind of thing we might say in speech in the British English.
I think it's more the Swiss are having problems with englishisms. Not surprising, ich mache auch viele fehle mit meine Deutsch verstandinis!
Oh wow, that is a misunderstanding. I didnt even read it as that.
But this is a bit oftop already and I'll better to stop it :)
I read as
But this is a bit off topic already and I'll better put a stop to it :)
Bo3b is right, well...that's unfortunate. Helix even said he wanted to see what you guys could do. He certainly didn't like the idea of the campaign but he never once expressed a desire to end your campaign as far as I know.
I'm sure he will fight as a free alternative but I don't think he ever intentionally tried to end your campaign.
Oh wow, that is a misunderstanding. I didnt even read it as that.
But this is a bit oftop already and I'll better to stop it :)
I read as
But this is a bit off topic already and I'll better put a stop to it :)
Bo3b is right, well...that's unfortunate. Helix even said he wanted to see what you guys could do. He certainly didn't like the idea of the campaign but he never once expressed a desire to end your campaign as far as I know.
I'm sure he will fight as a free alternative but I don't think he ever intentionally tried to end your campaign.
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[quote="elbarterino"]The potential situation: Potentially dozens of people (assumed that they are able to do it) working on multiple games using the wrapper and the method…
[/quote]
Ok, I'm back in the discussion (seems impossible not to).
I do hope you will start a new campaign, for the reasons you mentioned above.
I think 2 options are allways better than one! Especially if they are different ones.
Cheers,
Schmeltzer
elbarterino said:The potential situation: Potentially dozens of people (assumed that they are able to do it) working on multiple games using the wrapper and the method…
Ok, I'm back in the discussion (seems impossible not to).
I do hope you will start a new campaign, for the reasons you mentioned above.
I think 2 options are allways better than one! Especially if they are different ones.
I agree, I personally had no qualms with your campaign. Though I wanted everyone to be aware of Helix's wrapper prior to their donation. I do personally stand by my amount. I always understood it was a risk, but I personally believe Chiri to have good intentions. I will personally always support helixmod as long as I am able but I would still love to see what this project is capable of.
I agree, I personally had no qualms with your campaign. Though I wanted everyone to be aware of Helix's wrapper prior to their donation. I do personally stand by my amount. I always understood it was a risk, but I personally believe Chiri to have good intentions. I will personally always support helixmod as long as I am able but I would still love to see what this project is capable of.
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[quote="Chiri"]
I never received any answer from a PM to Helix. Had I know there is a chance Helix is doing well with his wrapper, I would never have started this project.
[/quote]
I just checked my inbox(i thought maybe I missed it) and don't see any PM's from you about DX11.
[quote="Chiri"]
[quote="-=HeliX=-"]But this is a bit oftop already and I'll better to stop it :) [/quote]
There's no misunderstanding possible about his intentions. But I'm very happy Helix is back and I'm also grateful for all the great work and patches he's doing. Thats a huge amount of time he's spending for all of us and I have no idea how he's capable of managing that.[/quote]
You misunderstood me for sure, it was an answer to Arioch1 post. And I said that it would be better to stop philosophic things about motivation and money, because it was an offtop(oftop, offtop, of topic).
I couldn't even imagine that you will understand it as addressed to you and mod...
And about your mod, honestly, i was even happy that some one else made it. Because few competing products will be good for both and help them progress(monopoly usually leads to degradation).
Your mod has some great features like auto-fix position and I think you should make emphasis on this, because as have been noticed here not many capable to use lua for this.
To all :
I agree the time wasn't perfect, but couldn't do it early because I've returned in my country only at the end of july.
And I faced very hard decision - show it now and let the people chose or wait till the spent their money.
I decided that second one is worst case, because some people will start demand their money back and will be angry at me/ at Indigomod mod.
The life is not a fairy tale and sometime you have to chose between bad and very bad, maybe I was not right with my decision, but it was my decision and I made my chose(someone hate me for that).
The bad and good concepts blurred and even when we think we're doing good thing for one it can be bad for another, because every one has its own view at this world. You can't be good for everybody anyway.
I think Indigomod guys should continue their work on it, but with different ideology. I.e. to make fixing automatically and easy (mine is only hardcore :) ).
But I'm going deep in philosophy again and need to stop:)
Chiri said:
I never received any answer from a PM to Helix. Had I know there is a chance Helix is doing well with his wrapper, I would never have started this project.
I just checked my inbox(i thought maybe I missed it) and don't see any PM's from you about DX11.
Chiri said:
-=HeliX=- said:But this is a bit oftop already and I'll better to stop it :)
There's no misunderstanding possible about his intentions. But I'm very happy Helix is back and I'm also grateful for all the great work and patches he's doing. Thats a huge amount of time he's spending for all of us and I have no idea how he's capable of managing that.
You misunderstood me for sure, it was an answer to Arioch1 post. And I said that it would be better to stop philosophic things about motivation and money, because it was an offtop(oftop, offtop, of topic).
I couldn't even imagine that you will understand it as addressed to you and mod...
And about your mod, honestly, i was even happy that some one else made it. Because few competing products will be good for both and help them progress(monopoly usually leads to degradation).
Your mod has some great features like auto-fix position and I think you should make emphasis on this, because as have been noticed here not many capable to use lua for this.
To all :
I agree the time wasn't perfect, but couldn't do it early because I've returned in my country only at the end of july.
And I faced very hard decision - show it now and let the people chose or wait till the spent their money.
I decided that second one is worst case, because some people will start demand their money back and will be angry at me/ at Indigomod mod.
The life is not a fairy tale and sometime you have to chose between bad and very bad, maybe I was not right with my decision, but it was my decision and I made my chose(someone hate me for that).
The bad and good concepts blurred and even when we think we're doing good thing for one it can be bad for another, because every one has its own view at this world. You can't be good for everybody anyway.
I think Indigomod guys should continue their work on it, but with different ideology. I.e. to make fixing automatically and easy (mine is only hardcore :) ).
But I'm going deep in philosophy again and need to stop:)
[quote="foreverseeking"]Not surprising, ich mache auch viele fehle mit meine Deutsch verstandinis! [/quote]
Don't the Swiss have more than one language? Personally, I feel Dutch should be the international language. Maybe I should start a IndieGogo "Dutch Language/World Dominiation" project. I'll have to think about what the perks will be.... :-)
Anyways, totally off-topic and not serious (maybe Nvidia should reinstate their forum moderators)!
edit:
Perk 0: You'll receive a map of The Netherlands (shock surprise: Amsterdam is NOT the capital of Denmark).
Perk 1: visit a coffeeshop of your choosing and smoke whatever you like!
Perk 2: you are now the proud owner of the Limburg provence (good riddance).
Perk 3: marry someone of your own gender (don't tell Putin).
Perk 4: become the King Of Holland (no way you'll look less intelligent than the current one)
foreverseeking said:Not surprising, ich mache auch viele fehle mit meine Deutsch verstandinis!
Don't the Swiss have more than one language? Personally, I feel Dutch should be the international language. Maybe I should start a IndieGogo "Dutch Language/World Dominiation" project. I'll have to think about what the perks will be.... :-)
Anyways, totally off-topic and not serious (maybe Nvidia should reinstate their forum moderators)!
edit:
Perk 0: You'll receive a map of The Netherlands (shock surprise: Amsterdam is NOT the capital of Denmark).
Perk 1: visit a coffeeshop of your choosing and smoke whatever you like!
Perk 2: you are now the proud owner of the Limburg provence (good riddance).
Perk 3: marry someone of your own gender (don't tell Putin).
Perk 4: become the King Of Holland (no way you'll look less intelligent than the current one)
[quote="elbarterino"]Well, what everybody seems to forget it that the wrapper and therefore the money was aimed at creating a wrapper that is easier to use and might enable multiple people to fix shaders. This was the request by the community and we obliged.[/quote]
I think a lot of people donated because of this idea. A broad wrapper that could fix a lot of games with a broader group of fixers is an awesome idea going forward. That's why I donated my meager $25. I don't own Bioshock Infinite. Some wanted the BI fix specifically, others didn't. The HeliX fix changed the equation entirely for some, not all for me and others.
So yeah, it's complicated. I think HeliX said it extremely well above.
elbarterino and Chiri, please don't lose track of the fact that the 3D community wants your support and demonstrably has. I said early on that I feared the goal $5000 was far too high. I never expected it to get beyond $2500. It reached above $4000. I was wrong, and I'm happy to say it.
This recent drama has been interesting, but let's just take a moment to remember the existence of all those 3D haters. How ridiculous is that? Let's destroy/convert them before we war amongst ourselves.
elbarterino said:Well, what everybody seems to forget it that the wrapper and therefore the money was aimed at creating a wrapper that is easier to use and might enable multiple people to fix shaders. This was the request by the community and we obliged.
I think a lot of people donated because of this idea. A broad wrapper that could fix a lot of games with a broader group of fixers is an awesome idea going forward. That's why I donated my meager $25. I don't own Bioshock Infinite. Some wanted the BI fix specifically, others didn't. The HeliX fix changed the equation entirely for some, not all for me and others.
So yeah, it's complicated. I think HeliX said it extremely well above.
elbarterino and Chiri, please don't lose track of the fact that the 3D community wants your support and demonstrably has. I said early on that I feared the goal $5000 was far too high. I never expected it to get beyond $2500. It reached above $4000. I was wrong, and I'm happy to say it.
This recent drama has been interesting, but let's just take a moment to remember the existence of all those 3D haters. How ridiculous is that? Let's destroy/convert them before we war amongst ourselves.
[quote="Schmeltzer"]Perk 0: You'll receive a map of The Netherlands (shock surprise: Amsterdam is NOT the capital of Denmark).
Perk 1: visit a coffeeshop of your choosing and smoke whatever you like!
Perk 2: you are now the proud owner of the Limburg provence (good riddance).
Perk 3: marry someone of your own gender (don't tell Putin).
Perk 4: become the King Of Holland (no way you'll look less intelligent than the current one)
[/quote]
Only a Dutchman would know about "Limburg provence," let alone care to hate on it!
But that's off topic. This is the other cool thing about the 3D community, it's very international.
Schmeltzer said:Perk 0: You'll receive a map of The Netherlands (shock surprise: Amsterdam is NOT the capital of Denmark).
Perk 1: visit a coffeeshop of your choosing and smoke whatever you like!
Perk 2: you are now the proud owner of the Limburg provence (good riddance).
Perk 3: marry someone of your own gender (don't tell Putin).
Perk 4: become the King Of Holland (no way you'll look less intelligent than the current one)
Only a Dutchman would know about "Limburg provence," let alone care to hate on it!
But that's off topic. This is the other cool thing about the 3D community, it's very international.
[quote="Airion"]Only a Dutchman would know about "Limburg provence," let alone care to hate on it![/quote]
You're wrong, I'm sure the inhabitants of the Limburg provence are aware of this too! ;-)
(btw: it's meant in good fun, people from Limburg are ok (if you can translate what they are saying anyway)
[quote="Schmeltzer"]
Don't the Swiss have more than one language? Personally, I feel Dutch should be the international language. Maybe I should start a IndieGogo "Dutch Language/World Dominiation" project. I'll have to think about what the perks will be.... :-)
Anyways, totally off-topic and not serious (maybe Nvidia should reinstate their forum moderators)!
edit:
Perk 0: You'll receive a map of The Netherlands (shock surprise: Amsterdam is NOT the capital of Denmark).
Perk 1: visit a coffeeshop of your choosing and smoke whatever you like!
Perk 2: you are now the proud owner of the Limburg provence (good riddance).
Perk 3: marry someone of your own gender (don't tell Putin).
Perk 4: become the King Of Holland (no way you'll look less intelligent than the current one)
[/quote]
Have to admit I find your post totally confusing. Sorry if I am being stupid. Deutsch is the official language of the Germanic People... us English peaking folk call it German, but this is an antiquated term, especially considering Germany is actually called Deutschland. Dutch is a Germanic based language, but like English is quite different to German (or Deutsch) although shares more similarities with German than English.
There are four official languages in Der Schweiz (Or swizerland, as we know it incorrectly based on middle German if I am right) German is the main language, at around 70%. then French at 10-20%. As for perks, 'Amsterdam in not the capital of Denmark'... Am I missing a really blatant joke? Is there a sect of people that think Denmark and the Netherlands are the same country?
Anyway, where ever in Switzerland the idigomod team are based, they will almost certainly speak German as one of their mother tongues and so hopefully can understand my sentence ;-)
I have to agree with Airion, the international side of this community is pretty cool. The fact that so many nationalities can come together in a joint cause without overbearing moderators is pretty awesome. The internet has broken boundaries that many of us take for granted now.
Schmeltzer said:
Don't the Swiss have more than one language? Personally, I feel Dutch should be the international language. Maybe I should start a IndieGogo "Dutch Language/World Dominiation" project. I'll have to think about what the perks will be.... :-)
Anyways, totally off-topic and not serious (maybe Nvidia should reinstate their forum moderators)!
edit:
Perk 0: You'll receive a map of The Netherlands (shock surprise: Amsterdam is NOT the capital of Denmark).
Perk 1: visit a coffeeshop of your choosing and smoke whatever you like!
Perk 2: you are now the proud owner of the Limburg provence (good riddance).
Perk 3: marry someone of your own gender (don't tell Putin).
Perk 4: become the King Of Holland (no way you'll look less intelligent than the current one)
Have to admit I find your post totally confusing. Sorry if I am being stupid. Deutsch is the official language of the Germanic People... us English peaking folk call it German, but this is an antiquated term, especially considering Germany is actually called Deutschland. Dutch is a Germanic based language, but like English is quite different to German (or Deutsch) although shares more similarities with German than English.
There are four official languages in Der Schweiz (Or swizerland, as we know it incorrectly based on middle German if I am right) German is the main language, at around 70%. then French at 10-20%. As for perks, 'Amsterdam in not the capital of Denmark'... Am I missing a really blatant joke? Is there a sect of people that think Denmark and the Netherlands are the same country?
Anyway, where ever in Switzerland the idigomod team are based, they will almost certainly speak German as one of their mother tongues and so hopefully can understand my sentence ;-)
I have to agree with Airion, the international side of this community is pretty cool. The fact that so many nationalities can come together in a joint cause without overbearing moderators is pretty awesome. The internet has broken boundaries that many of us take for granted now.
[quote="foreverseeking"]I have to agree with Airion, the international side of this community is pretty cool. The fact that so many nationalities can come together in a joint cause without overbearing moderators is pretty awesome. The internet has broken boundaries that many of us take for granted now.[/quote]
Aside from what you just taught me now about languages, the internet has also turned me on to the existence of as well as scorn of Limbergers. I mean, can you even understand what they're saying?!
But definitely, that's tertiary. We all share a common hobby and we [i]know[/i] 3D is better than 2D. I think at the end of the day, we should remember that. That is, we're a community and the future is on our side, but we need to fight for it [i]now[/i]. Maybe that's sappy, but I honestly believe it. So let's leave behind the infighting. If HeliX is the path to better 3D, let's go there. If Indigomod is the path to better 3D, let's go there. But I think it's obvious that we need both, [i]and more[/i].
foreverseeking said:I have to agree with Airion, the international side of this community is pretty cool. The fact that so many nationalities can come together in a joint cause without overbearing moderators is pretty awesome. The internet has broken boundaries that many of us take for granted now.
Aside from what you just taught me now about languages, the internet has also turned me on to the existence of as well as scorn of Limbergers. I mean, can you even understand what they're saying?!
But definitely, that's tertiary. We all share a common hobby and we know 3D is better than 2D. I think at the end of the day, we should remember that. That is, we're a community and the future is on our side, but we need to fight for it now. Maybe that's sappy, but I honestly believe it. So let's leave behind the infighting. If HeliX is the path to better 3D, let's go there. If Indigomod is the path to better 3D, let's go there. But I think it's obvious that we need both, and more.
[quote="foreverseeking"]Have to admit I find your post totally confusing. Sorry if I am being stupid.[/quote]
No, you are not stupid at all. I was just trying to bring some "lightness" to this thread. Helix apologizing for being off-topic, I thought: let's go FULL offtopic!
[quote="foreverseeking"]
As for perks, 'Amsterdam in not the capital of Denmark'... Am I missing a really blatant joke? Is there a sect of people that think Denmark and the Netherlands are the same country?[/quote]
Yup, I've been to the U.S.A. a couple of times, they seem to have no clue (not that I blame them, I know where New York is, but that's about it)
foreverseeking said:Have to admit I find your post totally confusing. Sorry if I am being stupid.
No, you are not stupid at all. I was just trying to bring some "lightness" to this thread. Helix apologizing for being off-topic, I thought: let's go FULL offtopic!
foreverseeking said:
As for perks, 'Amsterdam in not the capital of Denmark'... Am I missing a really blatant joke? Is there a sect of people that think Denmark and the Netherlands are the same country?
Yup, I've been to the U.S.A. a couple of times, they seem to have no clue (not that I blame them, I know where New York is, but that's about it)
Personally I dont feel the campaign should of ended. I just felt people needed to be aware. I think even Helix would liike to see what you can do. Perhaps you will always be competition for his free alternative. But tridef is competition to NVIDIA. Personally I have great respect for Tridef [Nvidia not so much]. Just give a product people will buy. I still have great respect for you [No offense to elbarterino, but I do not know him].
Im sorry if it sounds like I ever attacked you guys but there was too much "passion" in this thread. I truly do look up to helix. So I may inadvertedly sounded hostile.
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I do not believe that Helix was suggesting he should stop your mod. English is a second language for Helix, and I believe he was trying to say: "But this is a bit off topic already, and I should stop talking."
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As eqzitara said below, total misunderstanding. 'offtop' = off topic. Is Helix really not native English speaking? offtop is the kind of thing we might say in speech in the British English.
I think it's more the Swiss are having problems with englishisms. Not surprising, ich mache auch viele fehle mit meine Deutsch verstandinis!
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But this is a bit oftop already and I'll better to stop it :)
I read as
But this is a bit off topic already and I'll better put a stop to it :)
Bo3b is right, well...that's unfortunate. Helix even said he wanted to see what you guys could do. He certainly didn't like the idea of the campaign but he never once expressed a desire to end your campaign as far as I know.
I'm sure he will fight as a free alternative but I don't think he ever intentionally tried to end your campaign.
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If you like one of my helixmod patches and want to donate. Can send to me through paypal - eqzitara@yahoo.com
Ok, I'm back in the discussion (seems impossible not to).
I do hope you will start a new campaign, for the reasons you mentioned above.
I think 2 options are allways better than one! Especially if they are different ones.
Cheers,
Schmeltzer
Co-founder of helixmod.blog.com
If you like one of my helixmod patches and want to donate. Can send to me through paypal - eqzitara@yahoo.com
I just checked my inbox(i thought maybe I missed it) and don't see any PM's from you about DX11.
You misunderstood me for sure, it was an answer to Arioch1 post. And I said that it would be better to stop philosophic things about motivation and money, because it was an offtop(oftop, offtop, of topic).
I couldn't even imagine that you will understand it as addressed to you and mod...
And about your mod, honestly, i was even happy that some one else made it. Because few competing products will be good for both and help them progress(monopoly usually leads to degradation).
Your mod has some great features like auto-fix position and I think you should make emphasis on this, because as have been noticed here not many capable to use lua for this.
To all :
I agree the time wasn't perfect, but couldn't do it early because I've returned in my country only at the end of july.
And I faced very hard decision - show it now and let the people chose or wait till the spent their money.
I decided that second one is worst case, because some people will start demand their money back and will be angry at me/ at Indigomod mod.
The life is not a fairy tale and sometime you have to chose between bad and very bad, maybe I was not right with my decision, but it was my decision and I made my chose(someone hate me for that).
The bad and good concepts blurred and even when we think we're doing good thing for one it can be bad for another, because every one has its own view at this world. You can't be good for everybody anyway.
I think Indigomod guys should continue their work on it, but with different ideology. I.e. to make fixing automatically and easy (mine is only hardcore :) ).
But I'm going deep in philosophy again and need to stop:)
Don't the Swiss have more than one language? Personally, I feel Dutch should be the international language. Maybe I should start a IndieGogo "Dutch Language/World Dominiation" project. I'll have to think about what the perks will be.... :-)
Anyways, totally off-topic and not serious (maybe Nvidia should reinstate their forum moderators)!
edit:
Perk 0: You'll receive a map of The Netherlands (shock surprise: Amsterdam is NOT the capital of Denmark).
Perk 1: visit a coffeeshop of your choosing and smoke whatever you like!
Perk 2: you are now the proud owner of the Limburg provence (good riddance).
Perk 3: marry someone of your own gender (don't tell Putin).
Perk 4: become the King Of Holland (no way you'll look less intelligent than the current one)
I think a lot of people donated because of this idea. A broad wrapper that could fix a lot of games with a broader group of fixers is an awesome idea going forward. That's why I donated my meager $25. I don't own Bioshock Infinite. Some wanted the BI fix specifically, others didn't. The HeliX fix changed the equation entirely for some, not all for me and others.
So yeah, it's complicated. I think HeliX said it extremely well above.
elbarterino and Chiri, please don't lose track of the fact that the 3D community wants your support and demonstrably has. I said early on that I feared the goal $5000 was far too high. I never expected it to get beyond $2500. It reached above $4000. I was wrong, and I'm happy to say it.
This recent drama has been interesting, but let's just take a moment to remember the existence of all those 3D haters. How ridiculous is that? Let's destroy/convert them before we war amongst ourselves.
Only a Dutchman would know about "Limburg provence," let alone care to hate on it!
But that's off topic. This is the other cool thing about the 3D community, it's very international.
You're wrong, I'm sure the inhabitants of the Limburg provence are aware of this too! ;-)
(btw: it's meant in good fun, people from Limburg are ok (if you can translate what they are saying anyway)
Have to admit I find your post totally confusing. Sorry if I am being stupid. Deutsch is the official language of the Germanic People... us English peaking folk call it German, but this is an antiquated term, especially considering Germany is actually called Deutschland. Dutch is a Germanic based language, but like English is quite different to German (or Deutsch) although shares more similarities with German than English.
There are four official languages in Der Schweiz (Or swizerland, as we know it incorrectly based on middle German if I am right) German is the main language, at around 70%. then French at 10-20%. As for perks, 'Amsterdam in not the capital of Denmark'... Am I missing a really blatant joke? Is there a sect of people that think Denmark and the Netherlands are the same country?
Anyway, where ever in Switzerland the idigomod team are based, they will almost certainly speak German as one of their mother tongues and so hopefully can understand my sentence ;-)
I have to agree with Airion, the international side of this community is pretty cool. The fact that so many nationalities can come together in a joint cause without overbearing moderators is pretty awesome. The internet has broken boundaries that many of us take for granted now.
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Aside from what you just taught me now about languages, the internet has also turned me on to the existence of as well as scorn of Limbergers. I mean, can you even understand what they're saying?!
But definitely, that's tertiary. We all share a common hobby and we know 3D is better than 2D. I think at the end of the day, we should remember that. That is, we're a community and the future is on our side, but we need to fight for it now. Maybe that's sappy, but I honestly believe it. So let's leave behind the infighting. If HeliX is the path to better 3D, let's go there. If Indigomod is the path to better 3D, let's go there. But I think it's obvious that we need both, and more.
No, you are not stupid at all. I was just trying to bring some "lightness" to this thread. Helix apologizing for being off-topic, I thought: let's go FULL offtopic!
Yup, I've been to the U.S.A. a couple of times, they seem to have no clue (not that I blame them, I know where New York is, but that's about it)
And yes, we do speak German as our mother tongue