I want to graduate from a Samsung 2233rz come tax season, and I've been thinking about a DLP TV. But I've read that in 3D mode, it's not really 1920x1080, at least for the Mitsubishi and Samsung DLPs. So my question is, what resolution does it really run at and what are some large TVs that can display true 1080p in 3D, if any?
And overall, even though it's not really 1080p, is the experience with a DLP TV in 3D much better than the monitor? I heard there's no ghosting at all when you sit proper distance from it and that'd be nice since I get plenty of that on this monitor :(
I want to graduate from a Samsung 2233rz come tax season, and I've been thinking about a DLP TV. But I've read that in 3D mode, it's not really 1920x1080, at least for the Mitsubishi and Samsung DLPs. So my question is, what resolution does it really run at and what are some large TVs that can display true 1080p in 3D, if any?
And overall, even though it's not really 1080p, is the experience with a DLP TV in 3D much better than the monitor? I heard there's no ghosting at all when you sit proper distance from it and that'd be nice since I get plenty of that on this monitor :(
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GTX 280
3D Vision w/Samsung 2233rz
Vista 64
As far as I know, there are no true full 1080P 3D displays available at the moment. You will have to wait. I think theres an Acer 24" thats 1080P but its not available yet (soon though).
As far as I know, there are no true full 1080P 3D displays available at the moment. You will have to wait. I think theres an Acer 24" thats 1080P but its not available yet (soon though).
[quote name='3D schmeedee' post='970848' date='Dec 26 2009, 06:00 PM']I want to graduate from a Samsung 2233rz come tax season, and I've been thinking about a DLP TV. But I've read that in 3D mode, it's not really 1920x1080, at least for the Mitsubishi and Samsung DLPs. So my question is, what resolution does it really run at and what are some large TVs that can display true 1080p in 3D, if any?
And overall, even though it's not really 1080p, is the experience with a DLP TV in 3D much better than the monitor? I heard there's no ghosting at all when you sit proper distance from it and that'd be nice since I get plenty of that on this monitor :([/quote]
Yes it is that much better ;) and currently the only way to get 1080P without breaking the bank would be a dual 1080P Polarized Projector setup and no nvidia glasses
[quote name='3D schmeedee' post='970848' date='Dec 26 2009, 06:00 PM']I want to graduate from a Samsung 2233rz come tax season, and I've been thinking about a DLP TV. But I've read that in 3D mode, it's not really 1920x1080, at least for the Mitsubishi and Samsung DLPs. So my question is, what resolution does it really run at and what are some large TVs that can display true 1080p in 3D, if any?
And overall, even though it's not really 1080p, is the experience with a DLP TV in 3D much better than the monitor? I heard there's no ghosting at all when you sit proper distance from it and that'd be nice since I get plenty of that on this monitor :(
Yes it is that much better ;) and currently the only way to get 1080P without breaking the bank would be a dual 1080P Polarized Projector setup and no nvidia glasses
The Mitsubishi DLP's need to be run at 1768x992 because of the overscan issues, I have the 60737 and that is the res I use. I have never used the 3D Vision on a small monitor and since I have had this setup for awhile now I am pretty sure that I never will, as I have no desire to game on such a small screen (I have been spoiled by the TV lol).
I must admit though, that at first I was disappointed because I was under the impression that the TV would run at 1080p flawlessly, but that is not the case. It supports 1080p, and it will even do 3D in 1080p, but not perfectly using the PC as the source. Now when the 3D firmware update gets released for the PS3 by Sony, then I should have no trouble running 1080p 3D. Probably not in games though, since most console games are 720p, but Sony has already mentioned that the PS3 will support the 3D Blu Ray standard, and I am just assuming that the 3D Vision glasses will work (since they already work with the console versions of Avatar via the stereoscopic movie player trick).
I cant recommend it enough, but you might be interested in a projector, there is a thread on the Acer 5360 going on and everyone here seems happy with it, though it is only 720p.
The Mitsubishi DLP's need to be run at 1768x992 because of the overscan issues, I have the 60737 and that is the res I use. I have never used the 3D Vision on a small monitor and since I have had this setup for awhile now I am pretty sure that I never will, as I have no desire to game on such a small screen (I have been spoiled by the TV lol).
I must admit though, that at first I was disappointed because I was under the impression that the TV would run at 1080p flawlessly, but that is not the case. It supports 1080p, and it will even do 3D in 1080p, but not perfectly using the PC as the source. Now when the 3D firmware update gets released for the PS3 by Sony, then I should have no trouble running 1080p 3D. Probably not in games though, since most console games are 720p, but Sony has already mentioned that the PS3 will support the 3D Blu Ray standard, and I am just assuming that the 3D Vision glasses will work (since they already work with the console versions of Avatar via the stereoscopic movie player trick).
I cant recommend it enough, but you might be interested in a projector, there is a thread on the Acer 5360 going on and everyone here seems happy with it, though it is only 720p.
I have a 65 inch Mitsubishi dlp. It is great! trust me you wont care about missing a little bit of resolution. i run mine at 1842x1030 using the nvidia control panel resize feature. you can run 1080p but there is a oversize issue. some Games can also be run in 1080p depending on the games engine and options- sometimes you lose a bit of field of view. the control panel was a bit tricky to figure out how to resize (no instructions, no GUI to select the resized desktop- i eventually figured out i had to press tab twice and then enter to select the resized desktop).
I have a 65 inch Mitsubishi dlp. It is great! trust me you wont care about missing a little bit of resolution. i run mine at 1842x1030 using the nvidia control panel resize feature. you can run 1080p but there is a oversize issue. some Games can also be run in 1080p depending on the games engine and options- sometimes you lose a bit of field of view. the control panel was a bit tricky to figure out how to resize (no instructions, no GUI to select the resized desktop- i eventually figured out i had to press tab twice and then enter to select the resized desktop).
System:
Intel I7 920 overclocked to 4ghz
Asus Rampage Extreme II
2 Ge-force 480 in SLI
GTX 295 PhysX Card
12gb ddr3 2000mhz ram
Intel SSD in RAID 0
BR RW
1000w Sony surround sound
NVIDIA 3D Vision
3d displays tested:
Mitsubishi 65" DLP 3d HDTV (good old 1080p checkerboard since 2007!!!)
Panasonic VT25 (nice 2d but I returned it due to cross talk)
Acer H5360 720p on 130" screen (the best 3d)
23" Acer LCD monitor (horrible cross talk- sold it)
[quote name='DanielJoy' post='972398' date='Dec 29 2009, 08:48 PM']I have a 65 inch Mitsubishi dlp. It is great! trust me you wont care about missing a little bit of resolution. i run mine at 1842x1030 using the nvidia control panel resize feature. you can run 1080p but there is a oversize issue. some Games can also be run in 1080p depending on the games engine and options- sometimes you lose a bit of field of view. the control panel was a bit tricky to figure out how to resize (no instructions, no GUI to select the resized desktop- i eventually figured out i had to press tab twice and then enter to select the resized desktop).[/quote]
I have a 60" Mits and I run all my games in 1080p. Yes there is overscan but I use a second smaller touchscreen monitor in extended desktop mode. I moved the taskbar over there and it doesn't overscan, so I can launch programs just fine. So only full screen games run on the Mits usually. Yes, some small menu areas get cut off w/ the overscan, but I know where to click generally anyway, and this way there is no scaling going on in the TV. When you run a non-native resolution, the display adds extra processing to upscale to 1080p internally anyway, so you get a cleaner picture (in theory) running it 1:1 with the native resolution of the display. I have not had any problems running NFS Shift, rFactor, or iRacing in 1080p so far.
[quote name='DanielJoy' post='972398' date='Dec 29 2009, 08:48 PM']I have a 65 inch Mitsubishi dlp. It is great! trust me you wont care about missing a little bit of resolution. i run mine at 1842x1030 using the nvidia control panel resize feature. you can run 1080p but there is a oversize issue. some Games can also be run in 1080p depending on the games engine and options- sometimes you lose a bit of field of view. the control panel was a bit tricky to figure out how to resize (no instructions, no GUI to select the resized desktop- i eventually figured out i had to press tab twice and then enter to select the resized desktop).
I have a 60" Mits and I run all my games in 1080p. Yes there is overscan but I use a second smaller touchscreen monitor in extended desktop mode. I moved the taskbar over there and it doesn't overscan, so I can launch programs just fine. So only full screen games run on the Mits usually. Yes, some small menu areas get cut off w/ the overscan, but I know where to click generally anyway, and this way there is no scaling going on in the TV. When you run a non-native resolution, the display adds extra processing to upscale to 1080p internally anyway, so you get a cleaner picture (in theory) running it 1:1 with the native resolution of the display. I have not had any problems running NFS Shift, rFactor, or iRacing in 1080p so far.
[quote name='3D schmeedee' post='970848' date='Dec 26 2009, 12:00 PM']I want to graduate from a Samsung 2233rz come tax season, and I've been thinking about a DLP TV. But I've read that in 3D mode, it's not really 1920x1080, at least for the Mitsubishi and Samsung DLPs. So my question is, what resolution does it really run at and what are some large TVs that can display true 1080p in 3D, if any?
And overall, even though it's not really 1080p, is the experience with a DLP TV in 3D much better than the monitor? I heard there's no ghosting at all when you sit proper distance from it and that'd be nice since I get plenty of that on this monitor :([/quote]
It is a little late but with how big the difference is I figure its worth posting anyways. There is a huge difference between DLP and 3d monitor. I origionally was playing on a samsung 3d monitor and the ghosting was so horrible I had to return it to best buy, in my opinion it made the games unplayable. I play alot of BF2 which is rated excellent, and I quite literally had to look at 3 guns on the screen at once.
After I returned the monitor I got a mitsu wd-60737 which was a decent tv but the blacks were not black enough for me and the whits made a little bit of blurring. I then returned that for a mitsu wd-65837. I couldn't be happier now, its perfect 3d, no issues at all. Though it is a little expensive, totally worth it though.
On a side note if you can't afford a wd-65837 get a wd-65835, (if you can get your hands on one, there rare). Its last years model but the display mode is essentially the same, the only thing that changed was the rear inputs and there about 800 cheaper.
[quote name='3D schmeedee' post='970848' date='Dec 26 2009, 12:00 PM']I want to graduate from a Samsung 2233rz come tax season, and I've been thinking about a DLP TV. But I've read that in 3D mode, it's not really 1920x1080, at least for the Mitsubishi and Samsung DLPs. So my question is, what resolution does it really run at and what are some large TVs that can display true 1080p in 3D, if any?
And overall, even though it's not really 1080p, is the experience with a DLP TV in 3D much better than the monitor? I heard there's no ghosting at all when you sit proper distance from it and that'd be nice since I get plenty of that on this monitor :(
It is a little late but with how big the difference is I figure its worth posting anyways. There is a huge difference between DLP and 3d monitor. I origionally was playing on a samsung 3d monitor and the ghosting was so horrible I had to return it to best buy, in my opinion it made the games unplayable. I play alot of BF2 which is rated excellent, and I quite literally had to look at 3 guns on the screen at once.
After I returned the monitor I got a mitsu wd-60737 which was a decent tv but the blacks were not black enough for me and the whits made a little bit of blurring. I then returned that for a mitsu wd-65837. I couldn't be happier now, its perfect 3d, no issues at all. Though it is a little expensive, totally worth it though.
On a side note if you can't afford a wd-65837 get a wd-65835, (if you can get your hands on one, there rare). Its last years model but the display mode is essentially the same, the only thing that changed was the rear inputs and there about 800 cheaper.
There are both Alienware and Acer monitors available now.
At CES 2010, we also showed off an LGE 1080p panel coming soon. ASUS also showed off a preview of a 3D Vision panel.
Its exciting times for 3D Vision users![/quote]
Andrew, could you help me to figure out my problem with my 3D Vision kit? I try to load 3D pics or videos and the glasses pulse from light to dark and the images eventually load, but the videos end up at a black screen. :(
There are both Alienware and Acer monitors available now.
At CES 2010, we also showed off an LGE 1080p panel coming soon. ASUS also showed off a preview of a 3D Vision panel.
Its exciting times for 3D Vision users!
Andrew, could you help me to figure out my problem with my 3D Vision kit? I try to load 3D pics or videos and the glasses pulse from light to dark and the images eventually load, but the videos end up at a black screen. :(
And overall, even though it's not really 1080p, is the experience with a DLP TV in 3D much better than the monitor? I heard there's no ghosting at all when you sit proper distance from it and that'd be nice since I get plenty of that on this monitor :(
And overall, even though it's not really 1080p, is the experience with a DLP TV in 3D much better than the monitor? I heard there's no ghosting at all when you sit proper distance from it and that'd be nice since I get plenty of that on this monitor :(
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And overall, even though it's not really 1080p, is the experience with a DLP TV in 3D much better than the monitor? I heard there's no ghosting at all when you sit proper distance from it and that'd be nice since I get plenty of that on this monitor :([/quote]
Yes it is that much better ;) and currently the only way to get 1080P without breaking the bank would be a dual 1080P Polarized Projector setup and no nvidia glasses
And overall, even though it's not really 1080p, is the experience with a DLP TV in 3D much better than the monitor? I heard there's no ghosting at all when you sit proper distance from it and that'd be nice since I get plenty of that on this monitor :(
Yes it is that much better ;) and currently the only way to get 1080P without breaking the bank would be a dual 1080P Polarized Projector setup and no nvidia glasses
I must admit though, that at first I was disappointed because I was under the impression that the TV would run at 1080p flawlessly, but that is not the case. It supports 1080p, and it will even do 3D in 1080p, but not perfectly using the PC as the source. Now when the 3D firmware update gets released for the PS3 by Sony, then I should have no trouble running 1080p 3D. Probably not in games though, since most console games are 720p, but Sony has already mentioned that the PS3 will support the 3D Blu Ray standard, and I am just assuming that the 3D Vision glasses will work (since they already work with the console versions of Avatar via the stereoscopic movie player trick).
I cant recommend it enough, but you might be interested in a projector, there is a thread on the Acer 5360 going on and everyone here seems happy with it, though it is only 720p.
I must admit though, that at first I was disappointed because I was under the impression that the TV would run at 1080p flawlessly, but that is not the case. It supports 1080p, and it will even do 3D in 1080p, but not perfectly using the PC as the source. Now when the 3D firmware update gets released for the PS3 by Sony, then I should have no trouble running 1080p 3D. Probably not in games though, since most console games are 720p, but Sony has already mentioned that the PS3 will support the 3D Blu Ray standard, and I am just assuming that the 3D Vision glasses will work (since they already work with the console versions of Avatar via the stereoscopic movie player trick).
I cant recommend it enough, but you might be interested in a projector, there is a thread on the Acer 5360 going on and everyone here seems happy with it, though it is only 720p.
System:
Intel I7 920 overclocked to 4ghz
Asus Rampage Extreme II
2 Ge-force 480 in SLI
GTX 295 PhysX Card
12gb ddr3 2000mhz ram
Intel SSD in RAID 0
BR RW
1000w Sony surround sound
NVIDIA 3D Vision
3d displays tested:
Mitsubishi 65" DLP 3d HDTV (good old 1080p checkerboard since 2007!!!)
Panasonic VT25 (nice 2d but I returned it due to cross talk)
Acer H5360 720p on 130" screen (the best 3d)
23" Acer LCD monitor (horrible cross talk- sold it)
Samsung 65D8000
I have a 60" Mits and I run all my games in 1080p. Yes there is overscan but I use a second smaller touchscreen monitor in extended desktop mode. I moved the taskbar over there and it doesn't overscan, so I can launch programs just fine. So only full screen games run on the Mits usually. Yes, some small menu areas get cut off w/ the overscan, but I know where to click generally anyway, and this way there is no scaling going on in the TV. When you run a non-native resolution, the display adds extra processing to upscale to 1080p internally anyway, so you get a cleaner picture (in theory) running it 1:1 with the native resolution of the display. I have not had any problems running NFS Shift, rFactor, or iRacing in 1080p so far.
I have a 60" Mits and I run all my games in 1080p. Yes there is overscan but I use a second smaller touchscreen monitor in extended desktop mode. I moved the taskbar over there and it doesn't overscan, so I can launch programs just fine. So only full screen games run on the Mits usually. Yes, some small menu areas get cut off w/ the overscan, but I know where to click generally anyway, and this way there is no scaling going on in the TV. When you run a non-native resolution, the display adds extra processing to upscale to 1080p internally anyway, so you get a cleaner picture (in theory) running it 1:1 with the native resolution of the display. I have not had any problems running NFS Shift, rFactor, or iRacing in 1080p so far.
And overall, even though it's not really 1080p, is the experience with a DLP TV in 3D much better than the monitor? I heard there's no ghosting at all when you sit proper distance from it and that'd be nice since I get plenty of that on this monitor :([/quote]
It is a little late but with how big the difference is I figure its worth posting anyways. There is a huge difference between DLP and 3d monitor. I origionally was playing on a samsung 3d monitor and the ghosting was so horrible I had to return it to best buy, in my opinion it made the games unplayable. I play alot of BF2 which is rated excellent, and I quite literally had to look at 3 guns on the screen at once.
After I returned the monitor I got a mitsu wd-60737 which was a decent tv but the blacks were not black enough for me and the whits made a little bit of blurring. I then returned that for a mitsu wd-65837. I couldn't be happier now, its perfect 3d, no issues at all. Though it is a little expensive, totally worth it though.
On a side note if you can't afford a wd-65837 get a wd-65835, (if you can get your hands on one, there rare). Its last years model but the display mode is essentially the same, the only thing that changed was the rear inputs and there about 800 cheaper.
I hope this helps
-SF
And overall, even though it's not really 1080p, is the experience with a DLP TV in 3D much better than the monitor? I heard there's no ghosting at all when you sit proper distance from it and that'd be nice since I get plenty of that on this monitor :(
It is a little late but with how big the difference is I figure its worth posting anyways. There is a huge difference between DLP and 3d monitor. I origionally was playing on a samsung 3d monitor and the ghosting was so horrible I had to return it to best buy, in my opinion it made the games unplayable. I play alot of BF2 which is rated excellent, and I quite literally had to look at 3 guns on the screen at once.
After I returned the monitor I got a mitsu wd-60737 which was a decent tv but the blacks were not black enough for me and the whits made a little bit of blurring. I then returned that for a mitsu wd-65837. I couldn't be happier now, its perfect 3d, no issues at all. Though it is a little expensive, totally worth it though.
On a side note if you can't afford a wd-65837 get a wd-65835, (if you can get your hands on one, there rare). Its last years model but the display mode is essentially the same, the only thing that changed was the rear inputs and there about 800 cheaper.
I hope this helps
-SF
There are both Alienware and Acer monitors available now.
At CES 2010, we also showed off an LGE 1080p panel coming soon. ASUS also showed off a preview of a 3D Vision panel.
Its exciting times for 3D Vision users!
There are both Alienware and Acer monitors available now.
At CES 2010, we also showed off an LGE 1080p panel coming soon. ASUS also showed off a preview of a 3D Vision panel.
Its exciting times for 3D Vision users!
There are both Alienware and Acer monitors available now.
At CES 2010, we also showed off an LGE 1080p panel coming soon. ASUS also showed off a preview of a 3D Vision panel.
Its exciting times for 3D Vision users![/quote]
Andrew, could you help me to figure out my problem with my 3D Vision kit? I try to load 3D pics or videos and the glasses pulse from light to dark and the images eventually load, but the videos end up at a black screen. :(
There are both Alienware and Acer monitors available now.
At CES 2010, we also showed off an LGE 1080p panel coming soon. ASUS also showed off a preview of a 3D Vision panel.
Its exciting times for 3D Vision users!
Andrew, could you help me to figure out my problem with my 3D Vision kit? I try to load 3D pics or videos and the glasses pulse from light to dark and the images eventually load, but the videos end up at a black screen. :(