Looking to buy 3d monitor(s) Straight answers?
I'm a little confused on the monitor situation if I want to use surround 3d. If I get a 3d tv and rent a 3d movie... I don't think it matters if I have a Sony 3d or a Toshiba 3d or an LG passive 3d... it works. Nvidia lists a handful of compatible 3d monitors - NONE of which are readily available at the shops I have at my disposal (Newegg lists some, but all as being out-of-date??). Are other 3d capable monitors NOT compatible, or are they just not listed?

In particular, I am looking at the LG passive 3d monitors. I know that people report they are inferior fot this reason or that, but it is what I prefer so we don't need to digress to that debate. My question is about compatibility. LG says it is compatible with both Geforce and radeon but doesn't get into the specifics regarding 3d. Will games designed for Vision just not work in 3d? or it will work differently? or it will work just fine? or???

My expectation, with whatever I end up with, is that every game designed for 3d will work as intended and most any 2d game will be converted to the best of the ability of the software being used. Or is that just unrealistic? Are some games designed to only work with Nvidia's system and others with AMD's and others with LG's and others with plastic cereal box 3d glasses?4

At this point I haven't bought anything. I've always used Nvidia ever since I had driver issues with an old ATI all-in-wonder. I was tempted back to ati/AMD with recent reports on performance... until i started looking at 3d. Then I was convinced I'd probably do a 2x590 setup... then I hit the wall with monitors. I thought monitors would be the easy part!! :)

I really don't even game all that much, but when I do... it'd be nice to get the full experience. My budget for this build is very high - and unusual. Insurance is giving me a certain budget so if I save money, its to their benefit not mine. I can get 2 590's and 2 monitors (the 3rd just comes out of my pocket). Or any other combo so suggestions are welcome.
I'm a little confused on the monitor situation if I want to use surround 3d. If I get a 3d tv and rent a 3d movie... I don't think it matters if I have a Sony 3d or a Toshiba 3d or an LG passive 3d... it works. Nvidia lists a handful of compatible 3d monitors - NONE of which are readily available at the shops I have at my disposal (Newegg lists some, but all as being out-of-date??). Are other 3d capable monitors NOT compatible, or are they just not listed?



In particular, I am looking at the LG passive 3d monitors. I know that people report they are inferior fot this reason or that, but it is what I prefer so we don't need to digress to that debate. My question is about compatibility. LG says it is compatible with both Geforce and radeon but doesn't get into the specifics regarding 3d. Will games designed for Vision just not work in 3d? or it will work differently? or it will work just fine? or???



My expectation, with whatever I end up with, is that every game designed for 3d will work as intended and most any 2d game will be converted to the best of the ability of the software being used. Or is that just unrealistic? Are some games designed to only work with Nvidia's system and others with AMD's and others with LG's and others with plastic cereal box 3d glasses?4



At this point I haven't bought anything. I've always used Nvidia ever since I had driver issues with an old ATI all-in-wonder. I was tempted back to ati/AMD with recent reports on performance... until i started looking at 3d. Then I was convinced I'd probably do a 2x590 setup... then I hit the wall with monitors. I thought monitors would be the easy part!! :)



I really don't even game all that much, but when I do... it'd be nice to get the full experience. My budget for this build is very high - and unusual. Insurance is giving me a certain budget so if I save money, its to their benefit not mine. I can get 2 590's and 2 monitors (the 3rd just comes out of my pocket). Or any other combo so suggestions are welcome.

#1
Posted 11/01/2011 03:38 PM   
If you use a 3DTV or 3D monitor that uses non-Nvidia 3D hardware, meaning 3D Glasses and whatever associated technology (passive polarized, active shutter, etc.), you are generally limited to 3DTV Play over HDMI. There are quite a few downsides as a result of reliance on HDMI 1.4 framepacking: no 1080p @ 60Hz per eye in 3D and no 3D Vision Surround. There are a few exceptions to the Nvidia hardware rule, like the newest Samsung 3D monitors that require some workarounds to get 3D Vision working at true 120Hz 1080p, and their 3DTVs can also be tricked into supporting 3D checkerboard @ 1080p 60Hz per eye too.

Since you're on a high budget, I'd go for 3 of these when they're available this month: http://www.asus.com/Display/LCD_Monitors/VG278H/

They're 27" and use all the latest and greatest active shutter technologies, including LightBoost which many have subjectively claimed bring the brightness/ghosting levels up to par with other 3D solutions. If you want bigger, you will have to look at 3xprojectors, but this will drop you down to 3x720p instead of 3x1080p in surround and also require a lot more effort in setting up a proper space for them.
If you use a 3DTV or 3D monitor that uses non-Nvidia 3D hardware, meaning 3D Glasses and whatever associated technology (passive polarized, active shutter, etc.), you are generally limited to 3DTV Play over HDMI. There are quite a few downsides as a result of reliance on HDMI 1.4 framepacking: no 1080p @ 60Hz per eye in 3D and no 3D Vision Surround. There are a few exceptions to the Nvidia hardware rule, like the newest Samsung 3D monitors that require some workarounds to get 3D Vision working at true 120Hz 1080p, and their 3DTVs can also be tricked into supporting 3D checkerboard @ 1080p 60Hz per eye too.



Since you're on a high budget, I'd go for 3 of these when they're available this month: http://www.asus.com/Display/LCD_Monitors/VG278H/



They're 27" and use all the latest and greatest active shutter technologies, including LightBoost which many have subjectively claimed bring the brightness/ghosting levels up to par with other 3D solutions. If you want bigger, you will have to look at 3xprojectors, but this will drop you down to 3x720p instead of 3x1080p in surround and also require a lot more effort in setting up a proper space for them.

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#2
Posted 11/01/2011 04:10 PM   
Excellent concise answer chiz, thank you.

One thing I'm not clear on... the LG passive setup isn't 1080p per eye anyway (that's the supposed major downside with the passive technology, but frankly... I think the LG Passive 3DTV looks better than the Toshiba/Samsung/Sony active offerings despite this "limitation") so would that mean that the 1.4 framepacking issue is a non-issue with that technology? Although, frankly it doesn't really matter I guess because I want the 3D Vision Surround (I think - I've read a few people say it does nothing but make them sick).

I'll check out the asus offering. I'm limited to what is available in Canada, however, so hopefully that's the case.

ps. I clicked that link in your sig... you and I have very similar tastes in games /wink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' />
Excellent concise answer chiz, thank you.



One thing I'm not clear on... the LG passive setup isn't 1080p per eye anyway (that's the supposed major downside with the passive technology, but frankly... I think the LG Passive 3DTV looks better than the Toshiba/Samsung/Sony active offerings despite this "limitation") so would that mean that the 1.4 framepacking issue is a non-issue with that technology? Although, frankly it doesn't really matter I guess because I want the 3D Vision Surround (I think - I've read a few people say it does nothing but make them sick).



I'll check out the asus offering. I'm limited to what is available in Canada, however, so hopefully that's the case.



ps. I clicked that link in your sig... you and I have very similar tastes in games /wink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' />

#3
Posted 11/01/2011 11:30 PM   
Just briefly looked at the Asus VG278H you linked to... it looks like it has a built-in emmiter. Is having 3 emmiters not going to be a problem? (a waste at the very least?)
Just briefly looked at the Asus VG278H you linked to... it looks like it has a built-in emmiter. Is having 3 emmiters not going to be a problem? (a waste at the very least?)

#4
Posted 11/01/2011 11:34 PM   
The Toshiba/Samsung/Sony active offerings are also limited to 720p @ 60Hz, because all 3D HDTVs are currently limited to HDMI framepacking limitations. HDMI 1.4 signaling speeds currently limit S3D formats to 720p@60Hz or 1080p@24Hz per eye (or some minor variation). The LG passive you are eye-balling should be no different, but 24Hz per eye is really only suitable for 3D movie content, not gaming. Once you drop to 720p @60Hz, the biggest disappointment is not necessarily the drop in resolution from 1080p, its the fuzzy interpolated 720p image on a 1080p screen.

There is no "perfect" S3D solution atm unfortunately, everything out on the market has its pros/cons you just have to weigh what you are willing to live with and what features are must-haves. The 27" Asus closes the gap on some of the desktops biggest shortcomings like size, brightness, cross-talk levels. From most reports with LightBoost, 3DV2 brings brightness and cross-talk levels on par with the best in the industry. Size is still a downside, but you get the option for 3D Vision Surround which you wanted, and you also get the option for true 120Hz input in 2D, which is still great for games that don't do S3D well or you just want to play in 2D (like online FPS).

As for 3D Vision Surround, there are some problems with it for sure, main ones I can think of are is the extra GPU horsepower and VRAM needed to push those pixels (~6x more than 1080p), additional set-up and compatibility issues, and in-game issues like fishbowling/FOV/HUD elements. Widescreengaming forum really helps a lot for that last part, but there are still more hurdles to overcome once you invest in 3xSurround, and ofc, the level of expectations and dissatisfaction if a game isn't supported also increases when you've put ~3x as much money in your 3D build. Personally after having played with 3D Surround a bit, I would opt for 1 larger screen over 3x smaller ones in surround. My next purchase will probably be a 3D HDTV (waiting for 1080p @ 60Hz) and maybe that Asus 27" to tide me over.

The 3x emitter should not be an issue in 3D Vision Surround, a few other monitors that have integrated 3D emitters work fine in surround, I think the drivers just turn them off or synchronize them. You can keep the extra glasses for family/friends/guests or sell a pair or two. They'd be 3DV2 glasses so either way you'd get your moneys worth out of them.

As for the games, thanks, that's good news as you should have quite a few games to play through that will give you an excellent 3D experience. /thumbup.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':thumbup:' />
The Toshiba/Samsung/Sony active offerings are also limited to 720p @ 60Hz, because all 3D HDTVs are currently limited to HDMI framepacking limitations. HDMI 1.4 signaling speeds currently limit S3D formats to 720p@60Hz or 1080p@24Hz per eye (or some minor variation). The LG passive you are eye-balling should be no different, but 24Hz per eye is really only suitable for 3D movie content, not gaming. Once you drop to 720p @60Hz, the biggest disappointment is not necessarily the drop in resolution from 1080p, its the fuzzy interpolated 720p image on a 1080p screen.



There is no "perfect" S3D solution atm unfortunately, everything out on the market has its pros/cons you just have to weigh what you are willing to live with and what features are must-haves. The 27" Asus closes the gap on some of the desktops biggest shortcomings like size, brightness, cross-talk levels. From most reports with LightBoost, 3DV2 brings brightness and cross-talk levels on par with the best in the industry. Size is still a downside, but you get the option for 3D Vision Surround which you wanted, and you also get the option for true 120Hz input in 2D, which is still great for games that don't do S3D well or you just want to play in 2D (like online FPS).



As for 3D Vision Surround, there are some problems with it for sure, main ones I can think of are is the extra GPU horsepower and VRAM needed to push those pixels (~6x more than 1080p), additional set-up and compatibility issues, and in-game issues like fishbowling/FOV/HUD elements. Widescreengaming forum really helps a lot for that last part, but there are still more hurdles to overcome once you invest in 3xSurround, and ofc, the level of expectations and dissatisfaction if a game isn't supported also increases when you've put ~3x as much money in your 3D build. Personally after having played with 3D Surround a bit, I would opt for 1 larger screen over 3x smaller ones in surround. My next purchase will probably be a 3D HDTV (waiting for 1080p @ 60Hz) and maybe that Asus 27" to tide me over.



The 3x emitter should not be an issue in 3D Vision Surround, a few other monitors that have integrated 3D emitters work fine in surround, I think the drivers just turn them off or synchronize them. You can keep the extra glasses for family/friends/guests or sell a pair or two. They'd be 3DV2 glasses so either way you'd get your moneys worth out of them.



As for the games, thanks, that's good news as you should have quite a few games to play through that will give you an excellent 3D experience. /thumbup.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':thumbup:' />

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#5
Posted 11/02/2011 04:49 PM   
As high as my budget is... it doesn't look like I'll be able to afford 3 of those 27 inch Asus monitors. But all the reviews say that's the monitor to go for... so now a new question...

Can I get that Asus for the middle, and two cheaper monitors on the side and compromise? Use 3d x single monitor for 3d games and 2d x triple monitor for others?

Thoughts?

Alternatively, I can go lower on the graphics cards to pump up the budget to get three of the Asus monitors. I was planning on getting 2x590s... I could go for a single 590 or 2x 560ti or something like that?
As high as my budget is... it doesn't look like I'll be able to afford 3 of those 27 inch Asus monitors. But all the reviews say that's the monitor to go for... so now a new question...



Can I get that Asus for the middle, and two cheaper monitors on the side and compromise? Use 3d x single monitor for 3d games and 2d x triple monitor for others?



Thoughts?



Alternatively, I can go lower on the graphics cards to pump up the budget to get three of the Asus monitors. I was planning on getting 2x590s... I could go for a single 590 or 2x 560ti or something like that?

#6
Posted 11/05/2011 04:25 PM   
If you use 3x monitors for Surround, they MUST be all the exact same make and model. You cannot mix and match.

If you need something cheaper, maybe look at the Asus VG236. Thats what I'm using and its a decent monitor for the price. They 27" Asus will be much better though.

Honestly, you do not need 2x 590s. I use a single GTX 470 and have been able to play all sorts of games (like Metro 2033) in 3D. Granted not at max settings, but it still looks great.
If you use 3x monitors for Surround, they MUST be all the exact same make and model. You cannot mix and match.



If you need something cheaper, maybe look at the Asus VG236. Thats what I'm using and its a decent monitor for the price. They 27" Asus will be much better though.



Honestly, you do not need 2x 590s. I use a single GTX 470 and have been able to play all sorts of games (like Metro 2033) in 3D. Granted not at max settings, but it still looks great.
#7
Posted 11/05/2011 04:50 PM   
[quote name='s_mack' date='05 November 2011 - 12:25 PM' timestamp='1320510328' post='1320872']
As high as my budget is... it doesn't look like I'll be able to afford 3 of those 27 inch Asus monitors. But all the reviews say that's the monitor to go for... so now a new question...

Can I get that Asus for the middle, and two cheaper monitors on the side and compromise? Use 3d x single monitor for 3d games and 2d x triple monitor for others?

Thoughts?

Alternatively, I can go lower on the graphics cards to pump up the budget to get three of the Asus monitors. I was planning on getting 2x590s... I could go for a single 590 or 2x 560ti or something like that?
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If you want to use 3xmonitors for 2D Surround it will work, at least it did when I tried it. All the monitors need to support the same resolution though, and ideally you want them all to be the same screen size, same bezel, same stand/height adjustments for maximum flexibility. I can't remember however if the center panel still gets benefit of 120Hz, this question would probably be better asked in the Nvidia Surround forum.

If you want 3D Vision Surround (3x in 3D Vision), they do all need to be the same make and model because the emitter signals are timed and tuned to each monitor.

As cybereality said though, if you go with just the intent for 1x1080p panel in 3D Vision OR 3xpanel for Nvidia Surround (2D), 2x590 probably isn't necessary, 1x590 is probably enough and maybe go for the 3GB model, as the extra VRAM in Nvidia Surround is beneficial. If you want best bang for the buck though, I think those 570 are dropping as low to $230-250 and there's supposedly a new GF110-based 560Ti that supposed to come out soon too. 560Ti might leave you wanting, but 2x570 is slightly faster than what I'm running and I'm still happy overall with performance in just about every game out there with just 1x1080p in 3D Vision. Again, you may want to look at the higher VRAM model (2.5GB) though since there are some games that push even 1.5GB on my cards (BF3 and Crysis 2 for example).
[quote name='s_mack' date='05 November 2011 - 12:25 PM' timestamp='1320510328' post='1320872']

As high as my budget is... it doesn't look like I'll be able to afford 3 of those 27 inch Asus monitors. But all the reviews say that's the monitor to go for... so now a new question...



Can I get that Asus for the middle, and two cheaper monitors on the side and compromise? Use 3d x single monitor for 3d games and 2d x triple monitor for others?



Thoughts?



Alternatively, I can go lower on the graphics cards to pump up the budget to get three of the Asus monitors. I was planning on getting 2x590s... I could go for a single 590 or 2x 560ti or something like that?



If you want to use 3xmonitors for 2D Surround it will work, at least it did when I tried it. All the monitors need to support the same resolution though, and ideally you want them all to be the same screen size, same bezel, same stand/height adjustments for maximum flexibility. I can't remember however if the center panel still gets benefit of 120Hz, this question would probably be better asked in the Nvidia Surround forum.



If you want 3D Vision Surround (3x in 3D Vision), they do all need to be the same make and model because the emitter signals are timed and tuned to each monitor.



As cybereality said though, if you go with just the intent for 1x1080p panel in 3D Vision OR 3xpanel for Nvidia Surround (2D), 2x590 probably isn't necessary, 1x590 is probably enough and maybe go for the 3GB model, as the extra VRAM in Nvidia Surround is beneficial. If you want best bang for the buck though, I think those 570 are dropping as low to $230-250 and there's supposedly a new GF110-based 560Ti that supposed to come out soon too. 560Ti might leave you wanting, but 2x570 is slightly faster than what I'm running and I'm still happy overall with performance in just about every game out there with just 1x1080p in 3D Vision. Again, you may want to look at the higher VRAM model (2.5GB) though since there are some games that push even 1.5GB on my cards (BF3 and Crysis 2 for example).

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My 3D Vision Games List Ratings

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Intel Samsung 950Pro SSD | Samsung EVO 4x1 RAID 0 |
Yamaha VX-677 A/V Receiver | Polk Audio RM6880 7.1 | LG Blu-Ray
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#8
Posted 11/05/2011 05:23 PM   
I do not think the D2342P LG passive monitors would work well for 3D surround, due to the narrow viewing angle. They require more of a perfect angle to the position of your eyes or crosstalk occurs. As in, lean back in your chair and nothing but crosstalk. So if you have and can maintain perfect posture, they may be ok. They are releasing the same sizes with isp panels that are supposed to improve this, and should be much more forgiving. But this doesn't apply to their TVs, once you go up in size the viewing angle is greatly increased. Unfotunately, LG has been unable or unwilling to fix the issues of colorbugs in checkerboard and clear ghosting in interleave which applies to their monitors and TVs. I'm unsure if
Nvidia Surround Vision would support 3 LG monitors,as far as I know the only support 3D Vision capable displays, not 3DTV displays http://www.nvidia.com/object/3d-vision-surround-system-requirements.html. So if you are set on 3 LG monitors your option may be in Eyefinity and HD3D by AMD along with TriDef.

I personally hate the idea of built in emmiter bundles on 3D monitors, nothing like shelling out money for redundancy.

If your not set on 3D surround, you might opt for a monitor and projector. While gaming is limited to 720P in 3D on projectors, it kicks a$$ due to the screen size. Not to mention watching movies on a 100-300 inch screen, which are only limited to 720P if your prijector can not do 1080P.
I do not think the D2342P LG passive monitors would work well for 3D surround, due to the narrow viewing angle. They require more of a perfect angle to the position of your eyes or crosstalk occurs. As in, lean back in your chair and nothing but crosstalk. So if you have and can maintain perfect posture, they may be ok. They are releasing the same sizes with isp panels that are supposed to improve this, and should be much more forgiving. But this doesn't apply to their TVs, once you go up in size the viewing angle is greatly increased. Unfotunately, LG has been unable or unwilling to fix the issues of colorbugs in checkerboard and clear ghosting in interleave which applies to their monitors and TVs. I'm unsure if

Nvidia Surround Vision would support 3 LG monitors,as far as I know the only support 3D Vision capable displays, not 3DTV displays http://www.nvidia.com/object/3d-vision-surround-system-requirements.html. So if you are set on 3 LG monitors your option may be in Eyefinity and HD3D by AMD along with TriDef.



I personally hate the idea of built in emmiter bundles on 3D monitors, nothing like shelling out money for redundancy.



If your not set on 3D surround, you might opt for a monitor and projector. While gaming is limited to 720P in 3D on projectors, it kicks a$$ due to the screen size. Not to mention watching movies on a 100-300 inch screen, which are only limited to 720P if your prijector can not do 1080P.

#9
Posted 11/05/2011 10:23 PM   
After more reading of reviews, I think you're right D-man11... thank you. It seems those LG monitors do indeed have a very VERY narrow viewing angle.

I'm starting to think I ether have to ditch the idea of 3D or surround. IPS is in the mix too. It looks like, with the current offerings anyway, that I can only have one of the three. Maybe I'll start a poll somewhere. I really can't decide for myself since I have zero experience with all three technologies (IPS, 3D, surround) so I'm not sure which is better. My choices would probably be:

[u]Big expensive IPS monitor[/u]
Pros: Best color reproduction and general quality of picture, best resolution, biggest screen (probably go for a 30"). I do some amateur photography and I help my artist mother from time to time, so I do have some appreciable use for excellent colour reproduction. Cons: high price with low "wow" factor. Almost no advantage for gaming whatsoever. 2D only.

[u]Surround 3x 24" non-3D[/u]
Pros: Wow factor, especially for gaming. Some utitlity to having triple monitors for work purposes too. Cons: 2D only. smaller screen size (but x3). Takes up desk space.

[u]That Asus 27" 3D setup[/u]
Pros: 3D cool for gaming (but will I ever really use it?) and movies (but that's what the tv is for). Cons: high price. Unimpressive resolution for the size and cost.


Just lost. I can't believe how long I've been struggling with this lol. Why can't there just be a sub-$400 3D IPS monitor that I can use in surround?
After more reading of reviews, I think you're right D-man11... thank you. It seems those LG monitors do indeed have a very VERY narrow viewing angle.



I'm starting to think I ether have to ditch the idea of 3D or surround. IPS is in the mix too. It looks like, with the current offerings anyway, that I can only have one of the three. Maybe I'll start a poll somewhere. I really can't decide for myself since I have zero experience with all three technologies (IPS, 3D, surround) so I'm not sure which is better. My choices would probably be:



Big expensive IPS monitor

Pros: Best color reproduction and general quality of picture, best resolution, biggest screen (probably go for a 30"). I do some amateur photography and I help my artist mother from time to time, so I do have some appreciable use for excellent colour reproduction. Cons: high price with low "wow" factor. Almost no advantage for gaming whatsoever. 2D only.



Surround 3x 24" non-3D

Pros: Wow factor, especially for gaming. Some utitlity to having triple monitors for work purposes too. Cons: 2D only. smaller screen size (but x3). Takes up desk space.



That Asus 27" 3D setup

Pros: 3D cool for gaming (but will I ever really use it?) and movies (but that's what the tv is for). Cons: high price. Unimpressive resolution for the size and cost.





Just lost. I can't believe how long I've been struggling with this lol. Why can't there just be a sub-$400 3D IPS monitor that I can use in surround?

#10
Posted 11/07/2011 04:25 AM   
Not yet released http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/29/lg-gets-ready-for-ifa-with-a-pair-of-new-monitors/
But the thing with the passive monitors besides viewing angle is lag, although it's not as bad as the TVs. IPS panels have better viewing angles but inherently slower response rates. But as you stated IPS panels are superior for color reproduction.

The Planar SA2311W 1080P 3D monitors are sub 300 when on sale, the only thing is they are not HDMI 1.4 so no PS3 3D
Not yet released http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/29/lg-gets-ready-for-ifa-with-a-pair-of-new-monitors/

But the thing with the passive monitors besides viewing angle is lag, although it's not as bad as the TVs. IPS panels have better viewing angles but inherently slower response rates. But as you stated IPS panels are superior for color reproduction.



The Planar SA2311W 1080P 3D monitors are sub 300 when on sale, the only thing is they are not HDMI 1.4 so no PS3 3D

#11
Posted 11/07/2011 11:10 AM   
I've only been able to find the planar at [url="http://www.pc-canada.com/item/997%252D6293%252D00LF.html?utm_source=shopbot&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=shopbot"]one location in Canada[/url] in Canada... and they charge a ridiculous $536. Considering the dollars are about equal and traditionally computer stuff has been a bit cheaper in Canada, its insane. Its $340 at newegg.com and not available at newegg.ca. $338 at Amazon.com and not available at Amazon.ca. I don't get it.

Anyway, I wonder since Nvidia has released their newer version... that it doesn't make sense to limit the 3D search to monitors with Lightboost? Or is that just hype.
I've only been able to find the planar at one location in Canada in Canada... and they charge a ridiculous $536. Considering the dollars are about equal and traditionally computer stuff has been a bit cheaper in Canada, its insane. Its $340 at newegg.com and not available at newegg.ca. $338 at Amazon.com and not available at Amazon.ca. I don't get it.



Anyway, I wonder since Nvidia has released their newer version... that it doesn't make sense to limit the 3D search to monitors with Lightboost? Or is that just hype.

#12
Posted 11/07/2011 03:54 PM   
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