Will new Optoma GT750E 720p 3D Projector work with 3D Vision?
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Link: Optoma's GT750E 720p, Short Throw, 3D Projector http://www.amazon.com/Optomas-GT750E-Short-Throw-Projector/dp/B005G2HR6W

On this Amazon page it says this projector is "NVIDIA 3D Certified" [Yes].

Yet on the "Nvidia system requirements" (under "supported 3D projectors" > Optoma) page it is NOT listed. http://www.nvidia.com/object/3d-vision-system-requirements.html

And, on the Optoma GT750E product detail page, http://www.optomausa.com/products/detail/GT750E

it does NOT have the"nVidia 3D Vision" logo listed. [See logo listed on this page: http://www.optomausa.com/support/product-features.aspx

(Logo means: "Projector is Nvidia 3D Vision certified to work seamlessly with 3D Vision to establish the highest quality and most diverse collection of 3D PCs available.")].

This projector is very new, but I can't find any other info on the web as to whether it is specifically compatible with Nvidia 3D Vision.

Any help would be appreciated.

Also, if it is compatible with 3D Vision, any advice as to which 3D glasses to get? (I will use the projector for: PS3 3D games and 3D movies; and of course, 3D Vision games on the PC.

Thanks in advance for any help.
Link: Optoma's GT750E 720p, Short Throw, 3D Projector http://www.amazon.com/Optomas-GT750E-Short-Throw-Projector/dp/B005G2HR6W



On this Amazon page it says this projector is "NVIDIA 3D Certified" [Yes].



Yet on the "Nvidia system requirements" (under "supported 3D projectors" > Optoma) page it is NOT listed. http://www.nvidia.com/object/3d-vision-system-requirements.html



And, on the Optoma GT750E product detail page, http://www.optomausa.com/products/detail/GT750E



it does NOT have the"nVidia 3D Vision" logo listed. [See logo listed on this page: http://www.optomausa.com/support/product-features.aspx



(Logo means: "Projector is Nvidia 3D Vision certified to work seamlessly with 3D Vision to establish the highest quality and most diverse collection of 3D PCs available.")].



This projector is very new, but I can't find any other info on the web as to whether it is specifically compatible with Nvidia 3D Vision.



Any help would be appreciated.



Also, if it is compatible with 3D Vision, any advice as to which 3D glasses to get? (I will use the projector for: PS3 3D games and 3D movies; and of course, 3D Vision games on the PC.



Thanks in advance for any help.

#1
Posted 09/17/2011 12:10 PM   
I would certainly assume since they are displaying the Nvidia 3D Vision logo on the Optoma product page that there are no worries. Especially since Optoma does already have projectors listed on the requirement/certified list. I'd be inclined to believe that Nvidia is currently working on adding it, since the manufacturers supply the EDID for hardware that is 3D Vision certified as far as I know. Being that it's only recently that it has become available for sale, I'd assume that you'll see it supported on the next official driver release or possibly in a beta release. Disclaimer: I've been wrong before
I would certainly assume since they are displaying the Nvidia 3D Vision logo on the Optoma product page that there are no worries. Especially since Optoma does already have projectors listed on the requirement/certified list. I'd be inclined to believe that Nvidia is currently working on adding it, since the manufacturers supply the EDID for hardware that is 3D Vision certified as far as I know. Being that it's only recently that it has become available for sale, I'd assume that you'll see it supported on the next official driver release or possibly in a beta release. Disclaimer: I've been wrong before

#2
Posted 09/17/2011 10:45 PM   
You have several options for 3D glasses. If you want to use Nvidia 3D Vision, you'll of course have to use the Nvidia glasses and emitter, otherwise Nvidia 3D Vision will not activate. If you buy the Nvidia emitter/glasses package it also includes 3DTV Play and will run you in the area of $150. Additional Nvidia glasses are aroung $100. If you get the Nvidia glasses anticipate buying some athletic or first aid tape to wrap the arms of the glasses due to the sharp bottom edges. Without the tape they feel like butterknives against your ears. Another of your options if the projector were to get on the 3DTV Play requirement list, you could use any DLP Link glasses. I see the projector also has a RF signal for sync, this may require a propriety glass solution from Optoma, I'm unsure. Some of the new glasses from Bit Cauldron use the RF technology but may not be compatible. The Monstervision RF 3D glases are the same, just rebadged, but I do see that they have software update options. If you were to buy anything other than the Nvidia glasses, you'd need to buy 3DTV Play, currently priced at $39.99.
You have several options for 3D glasses. If you want to use Nvidia 3D Vision, you'll of course have to use the Nvidia glasses and emitter, otherwise Nvidia 3D Vision will not activate. If you buy the Nvidia emitter/glasses package it also includes 3DTV Play and will run you in the area of $150. Additional Nvidia glasses are aroung $100. If you get the Nvidia glasses anticipate buying some athletic or first aid tape to wrap the arms of the glasses due to the sharp bottom edges. Without the tape they feel like butterknives against your ears. Another of your options if the projector were to get on the 3DTV Play requirement list, you could use any DLP Link glasses. I see the projector also has a RF signal for sync, this may require a propriety glass solution from Optoma, I'm unsure. Some of the new glasses from Bit Cauldron use the RF technology but may not be compatible. The Monstervision RF 3D glases are the same, just rebadged, but I do see that they have software update options. If you were to buy anything other than the Nvidia glasses, you'd need to buy 3DTV Play, currently priced at $39.99.

#3
Posted 09/17/2011 11:11 PM   
Wow, this has a VESA 3D port, on the Amazon page it was labeled as the audio-out hehe, I overlooked it. This will defintely be compatible with the Monstervision/Bit Cauldron glasses as well as many others. What I am unsure of, is if you can use the Nvidia glasses via the VESA 3D port when using sources other than your PC, I do know it comes with a Vesa connector in the package (Note: it may or may not come with a Vesa cable in European countries).
Wow, this has a VESA 3D port, on the Amazon page it was labeled as the audio-out hehe, I overlooked it. This will defintely be compatible with the Monstervision/Bit Cauldron glasses as well as many others. What I am unsure of, is if you can use the Nvidia glasses via the VESA 3D port when using sources other than your PC, I do know it comes with a Vesa connector in the package (Note: it may or may not come with a Vesa cable in European countries).

#4
Posted 09/17/2011 11:34 PM   
First, thanks for the info D-Man11 /smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':smile:' />

I called Optoma and asked them if 3D Vision would work with the gt750e and they said yes.

Next, I asked what glasses they were recommending to use, and they said their Bit Cauldron-based glasses or the similar Monster Vision version.

BG-3DRFSYSTEM 3D-RF Glasses System
http://www.optomausa.com/products/detail/BG-3DRFSYSTEM

Optoma Licenses Bit Cauldron Technology for New Optoma 3D-RF Glasses and Emitter System Demonstrated at IFA Hall 7.2A Booth 102
http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20110906006234/en/Optoma-Licenses-Bit-Cauldron-Technology-Optoma-3D-RF

MonsterVisionâ„¢ MAX 3D Eyewear System with Active Syncâ„¢
http://www.monstercable.com/productdisplay.asp?pin=5938


I would like to confirm that 3D Vision will work with these glasses. Anyone know about this?
First, thanks for the info D-Man11 /smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':smile:' />



I called Optoma and asked them if 3D Vision would work with the gt750e and they said yes.



Next, I asked what glasses they were recommending to use, and they said their Bit Cauldron-based glasses or the similar Monster Vision version.



BG-3DRFSYSTEM 3D-RF Glasses System

http://www.optomausa.com/products/detail/BG-3DRFSYSTEM



Optoma Licenses Bit Cauldron Technology for New Optoma 3D-RF Glasses and Emitter System Demonstrated at IFA Hall 7.2A Booth 102

http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20110906006234/en/Optoma-Licenses-Bit-Cauldron-Technology-Optoma-3D-RF



MonsterVisionâ„¢ MAX 3D Eyewear System with Active Syncâ„¢

http://www.monstercable.com/productdisplay.asp?pin=5938






I would like to confirm that 3D Vision will work with these glasses. Anyone know about this?

#5
Posted 09/20/2011 09:54 PM   
The thing with the MonsterVision Max3D glasses is that they offer way more flexability. They have firmware patches on their product page for future compatibility. You can take them to a friends house and sync the Monster emitter to the emitter from their tv or projector (see compatibility list) They have the ability to "fine tune" the sync manually to further reduce ghosting, I've heard that this feature is really useful for file playback from your hard drive. Most importantly they are "RF"!!! Now keep in mind that the MonsterVision 3D Max glasses are just rebadged Bit Cauldron glasses, I'm unsure if other rebadged versions such as the ones from Optoma offer the same functionality. http://www.monstercable.com/max3d/default.asp#null http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-dun6YDouE
The thing with the MonsterVision Max3D glasses is that they offer way more flexability. They have firmware patches on their product page for future compatibility. You can take them to a friends house and sync the Monster emitter to the emitter from their tv or projector (see compatibility list) They have the ability to "fine tune" the sync manually to further reduce ghosting, I've heard that this feature is really useful for file playback from your hard drive. Most importantly they are "RF"!!! Now keep in mind that the MonsterVision 3D Max glasses are just rebadged Bit Cauldron glasses, I'm unsure if other rebadged versions such as the ones from Optoma offer the same functionality. http://www.monstercable.com/max3d/default.asp#null

#6
Posted 09/21/2011 02:42 AM   
Chill...yes it will work. I had a GTX750. However I returned it and bought the HD66.
The 750 has no manual zoom on it. This makes it near immpossible to get setup in a fixed enviorment for gaming.
The HD66 has better features and is the same cost.
Chill...yes it will work. I had a GTX750. However I returned it and bought the HD66.

The 750 has no manual zoom on it. This makes it near immpossible to get setup in a fixed enviorment for gaming.

The HD66 has better features and is the same cost.

#7
Posted 09/21/2011 02:47 AM   
Non Nvidia 3D Vision glasses, do not work well with Nvidia 3D Vision, it has to do with the sync delay built into the individual profile for each display. They take into account the display response rates (such as 3ms, 5ms etc...) and shutter timings for their glases. 3DTV Play is included in the Nvidia drivers, if you have the Nvidia 3D Vision emmiter it is free and you'll need the emmiter connected any time you use it. Without an emitter, Nvidia 3DTV Play is currently $39.99. Either way, 3DTV Play will not activate unless your Nvidia GPU and the 3D Projector/HDTV are on the requirement/support list http://www.nvidia.co...quirements.html
Non Nvidia 3D Vision glasses, do not work well with Nvidia 3D Vision, it has to do with the sync delay built into the individual profile for each display. They take into account the display response rates (such as 3ms, 5ms etc...) and shutter timings for their glases. 3DTV Play is included in the Nvidia drivers, if you have the Nvidia 3D Vision emmiter it is free and you'll need the emmiter connected any time you use it. Without an emitter, Nvidia 3DTV Play is currently $39.99. Either way, 3DTV Play will not activate unless your Nvidia GPU and the 3D Projector/HDTV are on the requirement/support list http://www.nvidia.co...quirements.html

#8
Posted 09/21/2011 03:00 AM   
If you get this projector and it is not listed on 3D Vision and/or 3DTV Play, send Nvidia your EDID asap. I'd also call Optoma again and inquire if this has been done by them already. I see this uses the 0.65” DC3 DMD DLP® Technology by Texas Instruments I can't wait to see a LED projector with the same features as the Optoma GT750E, they'd have to beat people away with a stick. The recently released ML500 by Optoma is getting close but still not even in the same league. Be sure to give share reviews and results over at the AVS Science Forumns thread http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1339786
If you get this projector and it is not listed on 3D Vision and/or 3DTV Play, send Nvidia your EDID asap. I'd also call Optoma again and inquire if this has been done by them already. I see this uses the 0.65” DC3 DMD DLP® Technology by Texas Instruments I can't wait to see a LED projector with the same features as the Optoma GT750E, they'd have to beat people away with a stick. The recently released ML500 by Optoma is getting close but still not even in the same league. Be sure to give share reviews and results over at the AVS Science Forumns thread http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1339786

#9
Posted 09/21/2011 03:14 AM   
[quote name='DannyR' date='20 September 2011 - 05:47 PM' timestamp='1316573240' post='1296208']
Chill...yes it will work. I had a GTX750. However I returned it and bought the HD66.
The 750 has no manual zoom on it. This makes it near immpossible to get setup in a fixed enviorment for gaming.
The HD66 has better features and is the same cost.
[/quote]

Yes lack of a zoom could be a problem, nice catch.
The HD66 may have better features than the the 750E model, but that is subjective. The 750E is HDMI 1.4 compliant, so there is no need for a 3D converter such as the Optoma 3D-XL
[quote name='DannyR' date='20 September 2011 - 05:47 PM' timestamp='1316573240' post='1296208']

Chill...yes it will work. I had a GTX750. However I returned it and bought the HD66.

The 750 has no manual zoom on it. This makes it near immpossible to get setup in a fixed enviorment for gaming.

The HD66 has better features and is the same cost.





Yes lack of a zoom could be a problem, nice catch.

The HD66 may have better features than the the 750E model, but that is subjective. The 750E is HDMI 1.4 compliant, so there is no need for a 3D converter such as the Optoma 3D-XL

#10
Posted 09/21/2011 03:37 AM   
I just read a post on the AVScience forumns, where it was stated that Nvidia 3D Vision glasses would not work via the Vesa 3 port on neither the Optoma HD66 nor the Optoma 3d-XL. So it would be best to go with a different option for 3D glasses if there are plans to use any sources other than a PC. They also may not work with other 3D middleware providers, so maybe it's best to avoid them altogether. http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=20530348#post20530348
I just read a post on the AVScience forumns, where it was stated that Nvidia 3D Vision glasses would not work via the Vesa 3 port on neither the Optoma HD66 nor the Optoma 3d-XL. So it would be best to go with a different option for 3D glasses if there are plans to use any sources other than a PC. They also may not work with other 3D middleware providers, so maybe it's best to avoid them altogether. http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=20530348#post20530348

#11
Posted 10/03/2011 02:11 AM   
So what's the deal here? How do you get nvidia 3d glasses to work with this projector?
So what's the deal here? How do you get nvidia 3d glasses to work with this projector?

#12
Posted 10/08/2011 11:42 PM   
They will not work with it until it is officially supported by Nvidia and on the requirement list for either 3D vision or 3DTV Play. http://www.nvidia.com/object/3d-vision-system-requirements.html http://www.nvidia.com/object/3dtv-play-system-requirements.html

Unfortunately,though it was originally listed as Nvidia 3D Vision ready on the Optoma product page, this designation has since disappeared and is no longer listed. I'm not really sure what's up with it.

All i can suggest is to submit the EDID yourself via Nvidia's instuctions here http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/2774
They will not work with it until it is officially supported by Nvidia and on the requirement list for either 3D vision or 3DTV Play. http://www.nvidia.com/object/3d-vision-system-requirements.html http://www.nvidia.com/object/3dtv-play-system-requirements.html



Unfortunately,though it was originally listed as Nvidia 3D Vision ready on the Optoma product page, this designation has since disappeared and is no longer listed. I'm not really sure what's up with it.



All i can suggest is to submit the EDID yourself via Nvidia's instuctions here http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/2774

#13
Posted 10/10/2011 09:30 PM   
Seem to remember a post about the acer h5369bd which is also 1.4 hdmi, and it works with NVIDIA only through the tv play or whatever its called. I expect the same it true for this.
Seem to remember a post about the acer h5369bd which is also 1.4 hdmi, and it works with NVIDIA only through the tv play or whatever its called. I expect the same it true for this.

#14
Posted 10/10/2011 09:48 PM   
[quote name='D-Man11' date='10 October 2011 - 02:30 PM' timestamp='1318282208' post='1306219']
They will not work with it until it is officially supported by Nvidia and on the requirement list for either 3D vision or 3DTV Play. http://www.nvidia.com/object/3d-vision-system-requirements.html http://www.nvidia.com/object/3dtv-play-system-requirements.html

Unfortunately,though it was originally listed as Nvidia 3D Vision ready on the Optoma product page, this designation has since disappeared and is no longer listed. I'm not really sure what's up with it.

All i can suggest is to submit the EDID yourself via Nvidia's instuctions here http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/2774
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The 3D Vision should work with no issue with this projector. Case in point. With the older GT720, you had three 3D modes in which the projector would work with 3D Vision. OFF. DLP LINK. 3D Vision. It didn't matter which one you selected because the signal was sent from the emitter plugged into the USB port. However, image clarity did differ with each setting. With my setup, using 3D Vision glasses, I set the PJ to DLP Link and could view the 3D movie, but it looked a little washed out. My wife was wearing DLP Link glasses and I was wearing 3D Vision. As long as your Nvidia card (which all of them can with the latest drivers) can display 1280 x 720 @ 120hz, you'll be able to use the Nvidia 3D Vision. I even had my system set to 1024 x 768 @ 120hz and it worked just fine.

The reason why the GT750 is not listed on the system requirements page is probably because it does not have the 3D Vision setting via the 3D menu option, which probably has something to do with licensing, but this does not mean that 3D Vision won't work with the projector. As I said, once you go through the software setup, the 3D signal will come from the emitter and it is because of this USB emitter is how the 3D Vision settings are enabled in software such as Total Media Theater 5 and Power DVD 10/11. [b]You can also use a software emulator to fool the system if you don't have the emitter, and just set the 3D Menu on the projector to DLP Link and use DLP Link glasses.[/b] Here's a couple screen grabs of my old GT720's 3D Mode menu option. You can see the slight variation between the two:

Nvidia 3D Vision
[img]http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e134/BishopLord/Nvidia/Nvidia_mode.jpg[/img]

DLP Link
[img]http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e134/BishopLord/Nvidia/DLP_Link.jpg[/img]

Off
[img]http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e134/BishopLord/Nvidia/Off_mode.jpg[/img]

I honestly think the GT750 is geared more towards using it without Nvidia 3D Vision, hence the HDMI 1.4 and it comes with the RF emitter. You don't really need RF glasses as the GT750 is still a DLP Link projector, but still, it's a newer more stable option. You can now plug in any HDMI 1.4 device (cable TV, PS3, 3D BD player) without the need for 3D Vision or 3DTV Play.
[quote name='D-Man11' date='10 October 2011 - 02:30 PM' timestamp='1318282208' post='1306219']

They will not work with it until it is officially supported by Nvidia and on the requirement list for either 3D vision or 3DTV Play. http://www.nvidia.com/object/3d-vision-system-requirements.html http://www.nvidia.com/object/3dtv-play-system-requirements.html



Unfortunately,though it was originally listed as Nvidia 3D Vision ready on the Optoma product page, this designation has since disappeared and is no longer listed. I'm not really sure what's up with it.



All i can suggest is to submit the EDID yourself via Nvidia's instuctions here http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/2774



The 3D Vision should work with no issue with this projector. Case in point. With the older GT720, you had three 3D modes in which the projector would work with 3D Vision. OFF. DLP LINK. 3D Vision. It didn't matter which one you selected because the signal was sent from the emitter plugged into the USB port. However, image clarity did differ with each setting. With my setup, using 3D Vision glasses, I set the PJ to DLP Link and could view the 3D movie, but it looked a little washed out. My wife was wearing DLP Link glasses and I was wearing 3D Vision. As long as your Nvidia card (which all of them can with the latest drivers) can display 1280 x 720 @ 120hz, you'll be able to use the Nvidia 3D Vision. I even had my system set to 1024 x 768 @ 120hz and it worked just fine.



The reason why the GT750 is not listed on the system requirements page is probably because it does not have the 3D Vision setting via the 3D menu option, which probably has something to do with licensing, but this does not mean that 3D Vision won't work with the projector. As I said, once you go through the software setup, the 3D signal will come from the emitter and it is because of this USB emitter is how the 3D Vision settings are enabled in software such as Total Media Theater 5 and Power DVD 10/11. You can also use a software emulator to fool the system if you don't have the emitter, and just set the 3D Menu on the projector to DLP Link and use DLP Link glasses. Here's a couple screen grabs of my old GT720's 3D Mode menu option. You can see the slight variation between the two:



Nvidia 3D Vision

Image



DLP Link

Image



Off

Image



I honestly think the GT750 is geared more towards using it without Nvidia 3D Vision, hence the HDMI 1.4 and it comes with the RF emitter. You don't really need RF glasses as the GT750 is still a DLP Link projector, but still, it's a newer more stable option. You can now plug in any HDMI 1.4 device (cable TV, PS3, 3D BD player) without the need for 3D Vision or 3DTV Play.

#15
Posted 10/14/2011 08:59 PM   
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