DLP vs. LCD opinions from people who have used both?
So I'm wondering what type of display to get. I was leaning towards the Samsung 22" LCD over DLP because of the higher pixel count per frame: 1920*540= 1.04 MPixel for 1080p DLP vs. 1650*1050=1.73 Mpixel for the LCD. The plan was to buy the cheaper LCD as a temporary solution until real 120hz 1080p sets became available. However I heard that the ghosting and flickering is not at all noticeable on DLP unlike LCD where it is still a problem. So now I'm looking back at the other option, the Samsung - HL-T6189S, a 61" LED DLP.
Has anybody used both that could weigh in? Do the problems with LCD affect even the games with "excellent" compatibility? Is there an ETA for a large 120hz 1080p display, either dlp or lcd? I'd hate to buy a new 61" TV and then want to upgrade in a few months when something better comes out.
I've also been looking at circularly polarized LCD's. The way I understand it is that every other row has opposite polarization, so again the stereoscopic resolution is chopped in half. This is what drove me away from the DLP's in the first place. Is this correct?
So I'm wondering what type of display to get. I was leaning towards the Samsung 22" LCD over DLP because of the higher pixel count per frame: 1920*540= 1.04 MPixel for 1080p DLP vs. 1650*1050=1.73 Mpixel for the LCD. The plan was to buy the cheaper LCD as a temporary solution until real 120hz 1080p sets became available. However I heard that the ghosting and flickering is not at all noticeable on DLP unlike LCD where it is still a problem. So now I'm looking back at the other option, the Samsung - HL-T6189S, a 61" LED DLP.
Has anybody used both that could weigh in? Do the problems with LCD affect even the games with "excellent" compatibility? Is there an ETA for a large 120hz 1080p display, either dlp or lcd? I'd hate to buy a new 61" TV and then want to upgrade in a few months when something better comes out.
I've also been looking at circularly polarized LCD's. The way I understand it is that every other row has opposite polarization, so again the stereoscopic resolution is chopped in half. This is what drove me away from the DLP's in the first place. Is this correct?
You can't compare 3D on a 22" screen to a 60" or larger DLP. 3D games and movies jump out of my DLP and almost hit you in the face. I've shown friends some movies and see them throw their heads back at certain points!!!
Lots of people are against DLP because they aren't flat. But the picture is awesome....big and bright!
You can't compare 3D on a 22" screen to a 60" or larger DLP. 3D games and movies jump out of my DLP and almost hit you in the face. I've shown friends some movies and see them throw their heads back at certain points!!!
Lots of people are against DLP because they aren't flat. But the picture is awesome....big and bright!
[quote name='DukeOfPrunes' post='565849' date='Jul 15 2009, 05:36 PM']You can't compare 3D on a 22" screen to a 60" or larger DLP. 3D games and movies jump out of my DLP and almost hit you in the face. I've shown friends some movies and see them throw their heads back at certain points!!!
Lots of people are against DLP because they aren't flat. But the picture is awesome....big and bright!
DoP[/quote]
For me it is the perceived softness of DLPs that keep me from buying them for gaming generally, but it might be worth it just to have 3d in the living room.
[quote name='DukeOfPrunes' post='565849' date='Jul 15 2009, 05:36 PM']You can't compare 3D on a 22" screen to a 60" or larger DLP. 3D games and movies jump out of my DLP and almost hit you in the face. I've shown friends some movies and see them throw their heads back at certain points!!!
Lots of people are against DLP because they aren't flat. But the picture is awesome....big and bright!
DoP
For me it is the perceived softness of DLPs that keep me from buying them for gaming generally, but it might be worth it just to have 3d in the living room.
The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire.
DLP has a better picture for colors and refresh rates, but DLPs are not really good for computers.
For a Blu-ray or certain 3D games with very large font, DLPs are great (Left 4 Dead or Mass Effect) it's near perfect.
However text is very very fuzzy on DLPs compared to an LCD, and most DLPs have an issue with red colors, hard to distinguish between purple and red
(Best way to demonstrate this is to do a google search, click a few links, then click back, and you may notice that all the links look the same color).
They also have a major problem with overscan on DLPs, theres no real solution to it with 3D because you have to run it in native mode, which is always overscanned.
This means, you will not have a start menu, and your games may have the HUDs chopped off.
NVidia has a workaround for this, but it gives you a custom resolution - that is to say, you won't be running in 1920x1080p, it would be something like 1811x960 or something like that. Which is fine for most games that support custom resolutions.... not all of them do.
If you plan on playing computer games more than anything else, then your best bet is the LCD. Almost all computer games i've played have problems on the DLP, mainly being text is near unreadable because of how a DLP works. Try playing Everquest and your chat log is a blur even if the game graphics are splendid.
If you plan on watching 3D Movies primarily, or playing games you can control with a controller with large font (Like again, Left 4 Dead is perfect on a DLP), then get the DLP.
DLP has a better picture for colors and refresh rates, but DLPs are not really good for computers.
For a Blu-ray or certain 3D games with very large font, DLPs are great (Left 4 Dead or Mass Effect) it's near perfect.
However text is very very fuzzy on DLPs compared to an LCD, and most DLPs have an issue with red colors, hard to distinguish between purple and red
(Best way to demonstrate this is to do a google search, click a few links, then click back, and you may notice that all the links look the same color).
They also have a major problem with overscan on DLPs, theres no real solution to it with 3D because you have to run it in native mode, which is always overscanned.
This means, you will not have a start menu, and your games may have the HUDs chopped off.
NVidia has a workaround for this, but it gives you a custom resolution - that is to say, you won't be running in 1920x1080p, it would be something like 1811x960 or something like that. Which is fine for most games that support custom resolutions.... not all of them do.
If you plan on playing computer games more than anything else, then your best bet is the LCD. Almost all computer games i've played have problems on the DLP, mainly being text is near unreadable because of how a DLP works. Try playing Everquest and your chat log is a blur even if the game graphics are splendid.
If you plan on watching 3D Movies primarily, or playing games you can control with a controller with large font (Like again, Left 4 Dead is perfect on a DLP), then get the DLP.
Has anybody used both that could weigh in? Do the problems with LCD affect even the games with "excellent" compatibility? Is there an ETA for a large 120hz 1080p display, either dlp or lcd? I'd hate to buy a new 61" TV and then want to upgrade in a few months when something better comes out.
I've also been looking at circularly polarized LCD's. The way I understand it is that every other row has opposite polarization, so again the stereoscopic resolution is chopped in half. This is what drove me away from the DLP's in the first place. Is this correct?
Has anybody used both that could weigh in? Do the problems with LCD affect even the games with "excellent" compatibility? Is there an ETA for a large 120hz 1080p display, either dlp or lcd? I'd hate to buy a new 61" TV and then want to upgrade in a few months when something better comes out.
I've also been looking at circularly polarized LCD's. The way I understand it is that every other row has opposite polarization, so again the stereoscopic resolution is chopped in half. This is what drove me away from the DLP's in the first place. Is this correct?
Lots of people are against DLP because they aren't flat. But the picture is awesome....big and bright!
DoP
Lots of people are against DLP because they aren't flat. But the picture is awesome....big and bright!
DoP
Lots of people are against DLP because they aren't flat. But the picture is awesome....big and bright!
DoP[/quote]
For me it is the perceived softness of DLPs that keep me from buying them for gaming generally, but it might be worth it just to have 3d in the living room.
Lots of people are against DLP because they aren't flat. But the picture is awesome....big and bright!
DoP
For me it is the perceived softness of DLPs that keep me from buying them for gaming generally, but it might be worth it just to have 3d in the living room.
The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire.
--Robert A. Heinlein
For a Blu-ray or certain 3D games with very large font, DLPs are great (Left 4 Dead or Mass Effect) it's near perfect.
However text is very very fuzzy on DLPs compared to an LCD, and most DLPs have an issue with red colors, hard to distinguish between purple and red
(Best way to demonstrate this is to do a google search, click a few links, then click back, and you may notice that all the links look the same color).
They also have a major problem with overscan on DLPs, theres no real solution to it with 3D because you have to run it in native mode, which is always overscanned.
This means, you will not have a start menu, and your games may have the HUDs chopped off.
NVidia has a workaround for this, but it gives you a custom resolution - that is to say, you won't be running in 1920x1080p, it would be something like 1811x960 or something like that. Which is fine for most games that support custom resolutions.... not all of them do.
If you plan on playing computer games more than anything else, then your best bet is the LCD. Almost all computer games i've played have problems on the DLP, mainly being text is near unreadable because of how a DLP works. Try playing Everquest and your chat log is a blur even if the game graphics are splendid.
If you plan on watching 3D Movies primarily, or playing games you can control with a controller with large font (Like again, Left 4 Dead is perfect on a DLP), then get the DLP.
For a Blu-ray or certain 3D games with very large font, DLPs are great (Left 4 Dead or Mass Effect) it's near perfect.
However text is very very fuzzy on DLPs compared to an LCD, and most DLPs have an issue with red colors, hard to distinguish between purple and red
(Best way to demonstrate this is to do a google search, click a few links, then click back, and you may notice that all the links look the same color).
They also have a major problem with overscan on DLPs, theres no real solution to it with 3D because you have to run it in native mode, which is always overscanned.
This means, you will not have a start menu, and your games may have the HUDs chopped off.
NVidia has a workaround for this, but it gives you a custom resolution - that is to say, you won't be running in 1920x1080p, it would be something like 1811x960 or something like that. Which is fine for most games that support custom resolutions.... not all of them do.
If you plan on playing computer games more than anything else, then your best bet is the LCD. Almost all computer games i've played have problems on the DLP, mainly being text is near unreadable because of how a DLP works. Try playing Everquest and your chat log is a blur even if the game graphics are splendid.
If you plan on watching 3D Movies primarily, or playing games you can control with a controller with large font (Like again, Left 4 Dead is perfect on a DLP), then get the DLP.