3D stereoscopic Options are not avialable after Update to Windows 10 17.9
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After an Upgrade to Windows 10 Fall Creator Update (17.9) 3D is not working any more. I have a Dell Precision with NVIDIA Quadro 1000M. 3D was working perfectly before the Update. NVIDIA Control Panel is not showing the 3D stereoscopic Options any more. If I install the latest Driver from NVIDIA Homepage the Options are shown again, but the 3D Setup Assistant is not working. It is giving me the Error during setup: Error in Stereo Driver, NvAPI_Stereo_IsActivated() returned 0 after stereo was enabled by default with Settings->setDefaultStartupMode(true). The Assistant is lowering the resolution in two steps before displaying anything from native (Full HD) to something like 1024x760...??? Than it is displaying the error... After installing the newest driver from NVIDIA Windows is telling me that there is a driver update, but if I install this the stereoscopic Options are gone again. Driver Number installed by Windows: 369.09 Latest Driver from NVIDIA Homepage: 355.85 What to do?
After an Upgrade to Windows 10 Fall Creator Update (17.9) 3D is not working any more. I have a Dell Precision with NVIDIA Quadro 1000M. 3D was working perfectly before the Update.

NVIDIA Control Panel is not showing the 3D stereoscopic Options any more. If I install the latest Driver from NVIDIA Homepage the Options are shown again, but the 3D Setup Assistant is not working. It is giving me the Error during setup:

Error in Stereo Driver, NvAPI_Stereo_IsActivated() returned 0 after stereo was enabled by default with Settings->setDefaultStartupMode(true).

The Assistant is lowering the resolution in two steps before displaying anything from native (Full HD) to something like 1024x760...??? Than it is displaying the error...

After installing the newest driver from NVIDIA Windows is telling me that there is a driver update, but if I install this the stereoscopic Options are gone again.

Driver Number installed by Windows: 369.09
Latest Driver from NVIDIA Homepage: 355.85

What to do?

#1
Posted 11/01/2017 04:00 PM   
[quote="MaHop.Net"]After an Upgrade to Windows 10 Fall Creator Update (17.9) 3D is not working any more. I have a Dell Precision with NVIDIA Quadro 1000M. 3D was working perfectly before the Update. NVIDIA Control Panel is not showing the 3D stereoscopic Options any more. If I install the latest Driver from NVIDIA Homepage the Options are shown again, but the 3D Setup Assistant is not working. It is giving me the Error during setup: Error in Stereo Driver, NvAPI_Stereo_IsActivated() returned 0 after stereo was enabled by default with Settings->setDefaultStartupMode(true). The Assistant is lowering the resolution in two steps before displaying anything from native (Full HD) to something like 1024x760...??? Than it is displaying the error... After installing the newest driver from NVIDIA Windows is telling me that there is a driver update, but if I install this the stereoscopic Options are gone again. Driver Number installed by Windows: 369.09 Latest Driver from NVIDIA Homepage: 355.85 What to do?[/quote] The latest version on Nvidia's site is R361 U5 (362.77) 1) Run setup for this driver version 2) Windows display settings -> Turn on "3D Display Mode" This will bypass the need to run nvidia's 3D wizard setup and 3d will be turned on in the NVidia control panel after that.
MaHop.Net said:After an Upgrade to Windows 10 Fall Creator Update (17.9) 3D is not working any more. I have a Dell Precision with NVIDIA Quadro 1000M. 3D was working perfectly before the Update.

NVIDIA Control Panel is not showing the 3D stereoscopic Options any more. If I install the latest Driver from NVIDIA Homepage the Options are shown again, but the 3D Setup Assistant is not working. It is giving me the Error during setup:

Error in Stereo Driver, NvAPI_Stereo_IsActivated() returned 0 after stereo was enabled by default with Settings->setDefaultStartupMode(true).

The Assistant is lowering the resolution in two steps before displaying anything from native (Full HD) to something like 1024x760...??? Than it is displaying the error...

After installing the newest driver from NVIDIA Windows is telling me that there is a driver update, but if I install this the stereoscopic Options are gone again.

Driver Number installed by Windows: 369.09
Latest Driver from NVIDIA Homepage: 355.85

What to do?


The latest version on Nvidia's site is R361 U5 (362.77)

1) Run setup for this driver version
2) Windows display settings -> Turn on "3D Display Mode"

This will bypass the need to run nvidia's 3D wizard setup and 3d will be turned on in the NVidia control panel after that.

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#2
Posted 11/04/2017 01:55 AM   
Thanks for the answer!!! I installed the driver 362.77 and the stereoscopic Options are displayed. The Problems with the setup wizard are the same. In Windows Display Settings I have no Option to turn on "3d Display Mode". I have a German windows - my way is: Right Click Windows Desktop - Display Settings - ... (Is this the correct path?) I used 3DFixManager to just turn on 3D Mode and the Checkbox is checked in NVIDIA Control Panel now, but still all 3D Apps, including PowerDVD and the Tests from NVIDIA Control Panel are still NOT able to switch to stereoscopic 3D Mode. NVIDIAs 3D Image Viewer is able to display 3D images in red/green 3D on my normal monitor, but not with stereoscopic View on my 3D DLP Beamer. On the Beamer the images are displayed without 3D in the window and above each other filling only the top half (each a quarter) of the Monitor in Full Screen Mode. (I also tried the old NVIDIA Windows 7 driver from the dell homepage. There I'm able to run the Setup Wizard and have my 3D working again, but with this driver windows 10 is not working any more. Windows 10 is not displaying the Start Menü and all other Apps like Outlook ... are displaying their UI in a very strange way or e.g. Edge is not starting at all. So I returned to 362.77 now.) Can I tweak something else?
Thanks for the answer!!! I installed the driver 362.77 and the stereoscopic Options are displayed. The Problems with the setup wizard are the same. In Windows Display Settings I have no Option to turn on "3d Display Mode".

I have a German windows - my way is: Right Click Windows Desktop - Display Settings - ... (Is this the correct path?)

I used 3DFixManager to just turn on 3D Mode and the Checkbox is checked in NVIDIA Control Panel now, but still all 3D Apps, including PowerDVD and the Tests from NVIDIA Control Panel are still NOT able to switch to stereoscopic 3D Mode.

NVIDIAs 3D Image Viewer is able to display 3D images in red/green 3D on my normal monitor, but not with stereoscopic View on my 3D DLP Beamer. On the Beamer the images are displayed without 3D in the window and above each other filling only the top half (each a quarter) of the Monitor in Full Screen Mode.

(I also tried the old NVIDIA Windows 7 driver from the dell homepage. There I'm able to run the Setup Wizard and have my 3D working again, but with this driver windows 10 is not working any more. Windows 10 is not displaying the Start Menü and all other Apps like Outlook ... are displaying their UI in a very strange way or e.g. Edge is not starting at all. So I returned to 362.77 now.)

Can I tweak something else?

#3
Posted 11/04/2017 09:55 AM   
This is interesting. On my Alienware M17x Laptop (see signature) which is a 3D Vision Ready certified laptop, after driver 385.41, I am missing the "Setup Stereo 3D" setting from Control Panel altogether:( This is on the Creators Update! (As I keep on postponing the Fall Creator Update).! I am not sure if the Fall Creator update is at fault or they changed something in the driver. However, this only happens on my Laptop! On my desktop, latest driver works just fine! So currently, I am using 385.41 and just importing the profiles from the newer drivers;) (Laptop side)
This is interesting.

On my Alienware M17x Laptop (see signature) which is a 3D Vision Ready certified laptop, after driver 385.41, I am missing the "Setup Stereo 3D" setting from Control Panel altogether:(

This is on the Creators Update! (As I keep on postponing the Fall Creator Update).!

I am not sure if the Fall Creator update is at fault or they changed something in the driver. However, this only happens on my Laptop! On my desktop, latest driver works just fine!

So currently, I am using 385.41 and just importing the profiles from the newer drivers;) (Laptop side)

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#4
Posted 11/04/2017 11:37 AM   
[quote="MaHop.Net"]Thanks for the answer!!! I installed the driver 362.77 and the stereoscopic Options are displayed. The Problems with the setup wizard are the same. In Windows Display Settings I have no Option to turn on "3d Display Mode". I have a German windows - my way is: Right Click Windows Desktop - Display Settings - ... (Is this the correct path?) I used 3DFixManager to just turn on 3D Mode and the Checkbox is checked in NVIDIA Control Panel now, but still all 3D Apps, including PowerDVD and the Tests from NVIDIA Control Panel are still NOT able to switch to stereoscopic 3D Mode. NVIDIAs 3D Image Viewer is able to display 3D images in red/green 3D on my normal monitor, but not with stereoscopic View on my 3D DLP Beamer. On the Beamer the images are displayed without 3D in the window and above each other filling only the top half (each a quarter) of the Monitor in Full Screen Mode. (I also tried the old NVIDIA Windows 7 driver from the dell homepage. There I'm able to run the Setup Wizard and have my 3D working again, but with this driver windows 10 is not working any more. Windows 10 is not displaying the Start Menü and all other Apps like Outlook ... are displaying their UI in a very strange way or e.g. Edge is not starting at all. So I returned to 362.77 now.) Can I tweak something else?[/quote] That is very odd indeed. Yes, right click on desktop->display settings is the correct way to get there. One other thing you can try. 1) Run setup for the 362.77 again, this time choose custom, and do a clean install 2) Reboot 3) Look for 3D mode in display settings This is the method I had to use before the fall creator edition with windows 10 Only other thing I see that is different is that you are using a Quadro card and not a Geforce, but I really don't see why that would matter.
MaHop.Net said:Thanks for the answer!!! I installed the driver 362.77 and the stereoscopic Options are displayed. The Problems with the setup wizard are the same. In Windows Display Settings I have no Option to turn on "3d Display Mode".

I have a German windows - my way is: Right Click Windows Desktop - Display Settings - ... (Is this the correct path?)

I used 3DFixManager to just turn on 3D Mode and the Checkbox is checked in NVIDIA Control Panel now, but still all 3D Apps, including PowerDVD and the Tests from NVIDIA Control Panel are still NOT able to switch to stereoscopic 3D Mode.

NVIDIAs 3D Image Viewer is able to display 3D images in red/green 3D on my normal monitor, but not with stereoscopic View on my 3D DLP Beamer. On the Beamer the images are displayed without 3D in the window and above each other filling only the top half (each a quarter) of the Monitor in Full Screen Mode.

(I also tried the old NVIDIA Windows 7 driver from the dell homepage. There I'm able to run the Setup Wizard and have my 3D working again, but with this driver windows 10 is not working any more. Windows 10 is not displaying the Start Menü and all other Apps like Outlook ... are displaying their UI in a very strange way or e.g. Edge is not starting at all. So I returned to 362.77 now.)

Can I tweak something else?


That is very odd indeed. Yes, right click on desktop->display settings is the correct way to get there. One other thing you can try.
1) Run setup for the 362.77 again, this time choose custom, and do a clean install
2) Reboot
3) Look for 3D mode in display settings

This is the method I had to use before the fall creator edition with windows 10

Only other thing I see that is different is that you are using a Quadro card and not a Geforce, but I really don't see why that would matter.

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#5
Posted 11/04/2017 12:45 PM   
Thanks again!!! @mgriggs22: When I installed the driver I already used the clean install with two reboots. I also did a couple of extra reboots... @Helifax: How can I import profiles from other drivers? As far as I see in this forum Geforce cards have newer drivers than Quadro cards. (At least the numbers are higher) But I'm not sure... The strange thing is, that windows installs a newer version of the driver than the one available on the NVIDIA site... But with the windows driver 3D is gone completely... Probably the NVIDIA driver developers could bring light into this...??? Are they listening to this forum?
Thanks again!!!

@mgriggs22: When I installed the driver I already used the clean install with two reboots. I also did a couple of extra reboots...

@Helifax: How can I import profiles from other drivers?

As far as I see in this forum Geforce cards have newer drivers than Quadro cards. (At least the numbers are higher) But I'm not sure... The strange thing is, that windows installs a newer version of the driver than the one available on the NVIDIA site... But with the windows driver 3D is gone completely...

Probably the NVIDIA driver developers could bring light into this...??? Are they listening to this forum?

#6
Posted 11/04/2017 01:31 PM   
[quote="MaHop.Net"]Thanks again!!! @mgriggs22: When I installed the driver I already used the clean install with two reboots. I also did a couple of extra reboots... @Helifax: How can I import profiles from other drivers? As far as I see in this forum Geforce cards have newer drivers than Quadro cards. (At least the numbers are higher) But I'm not sure... The strange thing is, that windows installs a newer version of the driver than the one available on the NVIDIA site... But with the windows driver 3D is gone completely... Probably the NVIDIA driver developers could bring light into this...??? Are they listening to this forum?[/quote] No, they do not monitor these forums. When I installed the fall creators edition of windows 10, windows also loaded a driver for my 1080 that did not include the 3d driver. So even though they are different drivers, it would appear that both the quadro and gefore default drivers in the new version of windows dont load the 3d driver.
MaHop.Net said:Thanks again!!!

@mgriggs22: When I installed the driver I already used the clean install with two reboots. I also did a couple of extra reboots...

@Helifax: How can I import profiles from other drivers?

As far as I see in this forum Geforce cards have newer drivers than Quadro cards. (At least the numbers are higher) But I'm not sure... The strange thing is, that windows installs a newer version of the driver than the one available on the NVIDIA site... But with the windows driver 3D is gone completely...

Probably the NVIDIA driver developers could bring light into this...??? Are they listening to this forum?


No, they do not monitor these forums. When I installed the fall creators edition of windows 10, windows also loaded a driver for my 1080 that did not include the 3d driver. So even though they are different drivers, it would appear that both the quadro and gefore default drivers in the new version of windows dont load the 3d driver.

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#7
Posted 11/04/2017 05:04 PM   
Well I did see a forum moderator post a little while back that they had filed a bug for this issue. We are a pretty small group though so it may take sometime. As for my own experience with the FCU. I was prompted this morning to update. Against my better judgement I did. With the same results that some of you guys are suffering. I rolled back to the previous build of Windows and all seems to be working fine again. Probably won't try that again for awhile.
Well I did see a forum moderator post a little while back that they had filed a bug for this issue. We are a pretty small group though so it may take sometime.

As for my own experience with the FCU. I was prompted this morning to update. Against my better judgement I did. With the same results that some of you guys are suffering. I rolled back to the previous build of Windows and all seems to be working fine again. Probably won't try that again for awhile.

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#8
Posted 11/04/2017 05:18 PM   
I have purposely differed my updates for a year at this point cause I am too nervous M$ will break something, and keeping my windows 7 partition around.
I have purposely differed my updates for a year at this point cause I am too nervous M$ will break something, and keeping my windows 7 partition around.

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#9
Posted 11/05/2017 01:42 AM   
@Necropants: Keeping a second OS on a different partition for 3D is a very good idea!!!
@Necropants: Keeping a second OS on a different partition for 3D is a very good idea!!!

#10
Posted 11/05/2017 10:26 AM   
Currently having this problem. Updating to Nvidia 388.13 means I can't use 3D Vision anymore and everytime I run set up wizard for 3D vision it tells me that "this laptop's panel is not qualified for 3D Vision" and just turning 3D on windows' display settings doesn't seem to have any effect. Version 385.69 is the closest driver I can run 3D vision on. Using GTX 765M.
Currently having this problem. Updating to Nvidia 388.13 means I can't use 3D Vision anymore and everytime I run set up wizard for 3D vision it tells me that "this laptop's panel is not qualified for 3D Vision" and just turning 3D on windows' display settings doesn't seem to have any effect. Version 385.69 is the closest driver I can run 3D vision on. Using GTX 765M.

#11
Posted 11/05/2017 07:17 PM   
I installed Windows 7 on a small extra partition with the latest NVIDIA driver for Windows 7 and 3D works fine there. That's a good fallback for Windows 10 FCU and any Update in the future... Thanks for this idea!
I installed Windows 7 on a small extra partition with the latest NVIDIA driver for Windows 7 and 3D works fine there. That's a good fallback for Windows 10 FCU and any Update in the future... Thanks for this idea!

#12
Posted 11/06/2017 12:06 AM   
[quote="Necropants"]I have purposely differed my updates for a year at this point cause I am too nervous M$ will break something, and keeping my windows 7 partition around.[/quote] Just want to reiterate that this can save you a lot of trouble and debugging. If you care about stability, and don't particularly enjoy constantly debugging problems. The reason this is worth doing is because our fixes and 3D Vision is a fragile environment. It's easy to break things with game updates, OS updates, or Driver updates. You can make a 'gaming' partition (or boot drive) that uses Win7 specifically, because Win7 is not a constantly moving target. Don't change the driver, don't change the OS except for security patches, which is all Win7 is getting now. This can work in as little as 40G of drive space. You can put games on a different partition or drive, or put them on the Win7 drive. Disable auto-updating of the games if you can. If not, make a backup so you can easily return to a known working state. You don't need a valid Win7 key to use Win7. Just install the OS, and say you'll add the license later. It will keep nagging you about being unauthorized, but will still let you use it indefinitely. This is a great strategy for older games and things that are stable but take a long time to play. If you are only interested in the latest games, this won't work for you, because you typically need updated drivers for the very latest games.
Necropants said:I have purposely differed my updates for a year at this point cause I am too nervous M$ will break something, and keeping my windows 7 partition around.

Just want to reiterate that this can save you a lot of trouble and debugging. If you care about stability, and don't particularly enjoy constantly debugging problems. The reason this is worth doing is because our fixes and 3D Vision is a fragile environment. It's easy to break things with game updates, OS updates, or Driver updates.

You can make a 'gaming' partition (or boot drive) that uses Win7 specifically, because Win7 is not a constantly moving target. Don't change the driver, don't change the OS except for security patches, which is all Win7 is getting now. This can work in as little as 40G of drive space.

You can put games on a different partition or drive, or put them on the Win7 drive. Disable auto-updating of the games if you can. If not, make a backup so you can easily return to a known working state.

You don't need a valid Win7 key to use Win7. Just install the OS, and say you'll add the license later. It will keep nagging you about being unauthorized, but will still let you use it indefinitely.


This is a great strategy for older games and things that are stable but take a long time to play.

If you are only interested in the latest games, this won't work for you, because you typically need updated drivers for the very latest games.

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#13
Posted 11/06/2017 10:23 PM   
I got the problem after that windows update, then used DDU and reinstalled the new drivers and now it's fine ...
I got the problem after that windows update, then used DDU and reinstalled the new drivers and now it's fine ...

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#14
Posted 11/09/2017 07:37 PM   
While I found the options to work around this (using custom tools 3D Fix manager or Advanced 3d Vision config found in these forums or using the right click on desktop --> display settings (not nvidia) --> 3d mode enable), I just want to tell what enabled to successfully run the wizard without error "NvAPI_Stereo_IsActivated() returned 0 after stereo was enabled by default with Settings->setDefaultStartupMode(true)": 1. Go to C:\Program Files (x86)\NVIDIA Corporation\3D Vision 2. right click NVStWiz.exe --> properties 3. go to compatibility tab 4. check "disable full screen optimizations" 5. click OK 6. run the 3D wizard Unfortunately, it seems full screen "optimizations" is not the only thing Microsoft has broken. I tried disable it for some games that stopped working in 3d vision since the update but it didn't bring it back. Unfortunately I discovered too late that something was broken and I can no longer roll back the update. There is an installer for the previous windows 10 build out there, but it tells me that it cannot downgrade my windows installation and essentially would a clean install without any of my files/programs. If I have to reinstall windows completely anyway, I might as well go back straight to Windows 7. Edit: Just discovered that "disable full screen optimizations" brings back 3d into Half Life 2. Might be worth a shot to try it on any game...
While I found the options to work around this (using custom tools 3D Fix manager or Advanced 3d Vision config found in these forums or using the right click on desktop --> display settings (not nvidia) --> 3d mode enable), I just want to tell what enabled to successfully run the wizard without error "NvAPI_Stereo_IsActivated() returned 0 after stereo was enabled by default with Settings->setDefaultStartupMode(true)":

1. Go to C:\Program Files (x86)\NVIDIA Corporation\3D Vision
2. right click NVStWiz.exe --> properties
3. go to compatibility tab
4. check "disable full screen optimizations"
5. click OK
6. run the 3D wizard

Unfortunately, it seems full screen "optimizations" is not the only thing Microsoft has broken. I tried disable it for some games that stopped working in 3d vision since the update but it didn't bring it back.

Unfortunately I discovered too late that something was broken and I can no longer roll back the update. There is an installer for the previous windows 10 build out there, but it tells me that it cannot downgrade my windows installation and essentially would a clean install without any of my files/programs.

If I have to reinstall windows completely anyway, I might as well go back straight to Windows 7.

Edit: Just discovered that "disable full screen optimizations" brings back 3d into Half Life 2. Might be worth a shot to try it on any game...

#15
Posted 12/26/2017 09:51 AM   
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