How-To: Make your Windows 10 box "optimised" for Gaming
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Hi helifax, thanks for this. From my personal experience, this will maybe only add ~1% performance to gaming - if even that. Interestingly, you mention: ========= Benefits: ========= - Dark Souls 3 doesn't hangs anymore in any Screen Configuration - Witcher 3 doesn't crash to desktop - Dragon Age: Inquisition - No more "Device Hung" errors - Star Wars: Battlefront - No more "Device Hung" errors - etc I have never had these problems in any OS, with minimal boot or otherwise. Admittedly, I am pretty new to Windows 10. I think the problem is something installed on your system that is causing these hangs. The "Device hung" and "Crash To Desktop" is interesting, as this kind of thing usually appears when I am overclocking too high using a software solution such as MSI afterburner for GPU. Perhaps by stopping explorer etc from loading, you are inadvertently stopping these OC programs or other utilities from loading which are causing these errors. I think it's worth investigating what exactly is causing the problem and fixing that as opposed to cutting everything out :)
Hi helifax, thanks for this.

From my personal experience, this will maybe only add ~1% performance to gaming - if even that. Interestingly, you mention:

=========
Benefits:
=========
- Dark Souls 3 doesn't hangs anymore in any Screen Configuration
- Witcher 3 doesn't crash to desktop
- Dragon Age: Inquisition - No more "Device Hung" errors
- Star Wars: Battlefront - No more "Device Hung" errors
- etc

I have never had these problems in any OS, with minimal boot or otherwise. Admittedly, I am pretty new to Windows 10.

I think the problem is something installed on your system that is causing these hangs. The "Device hung" and "Crash To Desktop" is interesting, as this kind of thing usually appears when I am overclocking too high using a software solution such as MSI afterburner for GPU. Perhaps by stopping explorer etc from loading, you are inadvertently stopping these OC programs or other utilities from loading which are causing these errors.

I think it's worth investigating what exactly is causing the problem and fixing that as opposed to cutting everything out :)

Windows 10 64-bit, Intel 7700K @ 5.1GHz, 16GB 3600MHz CL15 DDR4 RAM, 2x GTX 1080 SLI, Asus Maximus IX Hero, Sound Blaster ZxR, PCIe Quad SSD, Oculus Rift CV1, DLP Link PGD-150 glasses, ViewSonic PJD6531w 3D DLP Projector @ 1280x800 120Hz native / 2560x1600 120Hz DSR 3D Gaming.

#16
Posted 01/23/2017 08:23 AM   
Thank you for this Helifax! Exactly what I needed for Battlefield 1. @TsaebehT Thank you for the script. very useful for the lazy me :P I disagree with RAGEdemon, the is a big difference when gaming. Much more than 1% but only in games that are hung on the CPU. Also, this is aplicable to systems that do not run new gen i7 processors. If you have 8 threads and a processor running at 4.5ghz probably doesn't matter that much. Ex. Running Battlefiled 1 multiplayer with 64 players is very demanding for the processor. Any background process influences the FPS on my i5 3570k. Previously I was using raze cortex to stop unneeded processes( because I was lazy) and I still had drops under 60fps. I played last night for 4 hours and I have to say my FPS was very stable at the locked 63fps (it's 63 because this provides best performance for me when it comes to tearing)
Thank you for this Helifax! Exactly what I needed for Battlefield 1.

@TsaebehT Thank you for the script. very useful for the lazy me :P

I disagree with RAGEdemon, the is a big difference when gaming. Much more than 1% but only in games that are hung on the CPU.
Also, this is aplicable to systems that do not run new gen i7 processors. If you have 8 threads and a processor running at 4.5ghz probably doesn't matter that much.

Ex. Running Battlefiled 1 multiplayer with 64 players is very demanding for the processor. Any background process influences the FPS on my i5 3570k. Previously I was using raze cortex to stop unneeded processes( because I was lazy) and I still had drops under 60fps. I played last night for 4 hours and I have to say my FPS was very stable at the locked 63fps (it's 63 because this provides best performance for me when it comes to tearing)

Intel i7 8086K
Gigabyte GTX 1080Ti Aorus Extreme
DDR4 2x8gb 3200mhz Cl14
TV LG OLED65E6V
Windows 10 64bits

#17
Posted 01/23/2017 10:30 AM   
[quote="RAGEdemon"]Hi helifax, thanks for this. From my personal experience, this will maybe only add ~1% performance to gaming - if even that. Interestingly, you mention: ========= Benefits: ========= - Dark Souls 3 doesn't hangs anymore in any Screen Configuration - Witcher 3 doesn't crash to desktop - Dragon Age: Inquisition - No more "Device Hung" errors - Star Wars: Battlefront - No more "Device Hung" errors - etc I have never had these problems in any OS, with minimal boot or otherwise. Admittedly, I am pretty new to Windows 10. I think the problem is something installed on your system that is causing these hangs. The "Device hung" and "Crash To Desktop" is interesting, as this kind of thing usually appears when I am overclocking too high using a software solution such as MSI afterburner for GPU.[/quote] This is a "collection" of items I found out on different systems;) On my systems DA:I, BF1, SW:B, Witcher 3 works perfectly fine;) No crashes. The only game that hangs is Dark Souls 3 and this is across my desktop + laptop;) 3 Minutes Later: Hang. Ofc, only 3D Vision is running. The culprit lies in the Windows Compositor (part of Windows Explorer). I am not the only one. Just search the Steam Forums and you'll see that;) It also happens to people without 3D Vision - while I wasn't able to replicate it...
RAGEdemon said:Hi helifax, thanks for this.

From my personal experience, this will maybe only add ~1% performance to gaming - if even that. Interestingly, you mention:

=========
Benefits:
=========
- Dark Souls 3 doesn't hangs anymore in any Screen Configuration
- Witcher 3 doesn't crash to desktop
- Dragon Age: Inquisition - No more "Device Hung" errors
- Star Wars: Battlefront - No more "Device Hung" errors
- etc

I have never had these problems in any OS, with minimal boot or otherwise. Admittedly, I am pretty new to Windows 10.

I think the problem is something installed on your system that is causing these hangs. The "Device hung" and "Crash To Desktop" is interesting, as this kind of thing usually appears when I am overclocking too high using a software solution such as MSI afterburner for GPU.


This is a "collection" of items I found out on different systems;)
On my systems DA:I, BF1, SW:B, Witcher 3 works perfectly fine;) No crashes.
The only game that hangs is Dark Souls 3 and this is across my desktop + laptop;) 3 Minutes Later: Hang. Ofc, only 3D Vision is running. The culprit lies in the Windows Compositor (part of Windows Explorer).
I am not the only one. Just search the Steam Forums and you'll see that;) It also happens to people without 3D Vision - while I wasn't able to replicate it...

1x Palit RTX 2080Ti Pro Gaming OC(watercooled and overclocked to hell)
3x 3D Vision Ready Asus VG278HE monitors (5760x1080).
Intel i9 9900K (overclocked to 5.3 and watercooled ofc).
Asus Maximus XI Hero Mobo.
16 GB Team Group T-Force Dark Pro DDR4 @ 3600.
Lots of Disks:
- Raid 0 - 256GB Sandisk Extreme SSD.
- Raid 0 - WD Black - 2TB.
- SanDisk SSD PLUS 480 GB.
- Intel 760p 256GB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD.
Creative Sound Blaster Z.
Windows 10 x64 Pro.
etc


My website with my fixes and OpenGL to 3D Vision wrapper:
http://3dsurroundgaming.com

(If you like some of the stuff that I've done and want to donate something, you can do it with PayPal at tavyhome@gmail.com)

#18
Posted 01/23/2017 10:53 AM   
Thank you Helifax! I can confirm that gaming with the Windows Explorer avoided can make a huge difference. Some time ago, during a recovery process from Win 10 to Win 8.1, I was unwillingly left with a windows system bared of win explorer. Since task manager was still functional, I was able to start Witcher 3 and play it in 3D. The performance was greatly superior in the absence of win explorer. I quote myself from this post from 2015: [url]https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/858123/windows-10-megathread-please-keep-win10-discussions-here/?offset=65#4623817[/url] “...no more windows explorer... And you know what: playing Witcher 3 in 3D, through Task Manager and without the win explorer, has never been smoother!”
Thank you Helifax!

I can confirm that gaming with the Windows Explorer avoided can make a huge difference.

Some time ago, during a recovery process from Win 10 to Win 8.1, I was unwillingly left with a windows system bared of win explorer.

Since task manager was still functional, I was able to start Witcher 3 and play it in 3D. The performance was greatly superior in the absence of win explorer.

I quote myself from this post from 2015:
https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/858123/windows-10-megathread-please-keep-win10-discussions-here/?offset=65#4623817

“...no more windows explorer...

And you know what: playing Witcher 3 in 3D, through Task Manager and without the win explorer, has never been smoother!”

Overclocked Intel® Core™i5-4690k Quad Core
32 Gb RAM
8GB GEFORCE GTX 1080
3D Vision 2
Windows 10 64 Bit
NVidia driver 419.17
SAMSUNG - UE55H8000 Smart 3D 55" Curved
Philips G-Sync 272G
Oculus Rift with Touch controlers

#19
Posted 01/23/2017 01:50 PM   
Hi I find this very interesting. Are there an option to make one code for all medium users like me? Im not sure what changes i must do to this code , to use in my system. Can i use this as it is now if im not using an alienware? Im so noob, but very interested , cause im on an medium hardware playing games like watchdogs 2. Tx!!
Hi
I find this very interesting.
Are there an option to make one code for all medium users like me?
Im not sure what changes i must do to this code , to use in my system.
Can i use this as it is now if im not using an alienware?
Im so noob, but very interested , cause im on an medium hardware playing games like watchdogs 2.
Tx!!

An old man with an old 24" 3D gamer Pc, Helixmod Disciples fan

#20
Posted 01/23/2017 02:58 PM   
Thanks for the explanation helifax! Guys, if it works for you, then that's great! I'm really happy for you :) I should mention though, that unless there is a problem with windows such as compositor as helifax points out, the explorer and everything else on a windows system shouldn't be taking up more than a few % of the CPU in task manager. If it's taking more, then you have serious problems such as a virus/malware/corrupted windows install etc. What this means is that unless the CPU is running at 100% when running games, it shouldn't matter. As a general rule, games never take up anywhere near 100% CPU except maybe the most recent games such as BF1 on a dual/quad core non HT. The % CPU usage of all windows explorer etc combined will just be added on top of the game CPU usage. The only time you should see a difference is if your game is taking 100% CPU, and cutting out % CPU from explorer etc gives it more headroom. For example, X game takes up 65% CPU on a 4 core i5. Explorer/windows takes up 5% CPU Total CPU when running game = 70% and has no impact on game performance. This is because the game is only using a few threads, not all 4 for an i5 and certainly not all 8 for an i7. The spare real and virtual cores are doing the extra windows explorer processing in a manner which doesn't effect game performance. If however, in the very unlikely event that the game is taking up 100% CPU, then disabling windows and explorer will net you ~5% extra performance. If it's netting you more, then something is seriously wrong elsewhere in your system and you are treating the symptom, not the cause. I am really glad it works for you guys and I would suggest investigating to make sure your system is working as best as it can :)
Thanks for the explanation helifax!

Guys, if it works for you, then that's great! I'm really happy for you :)

I should mention though, that unless there is a problem with windows such as compositor as helifax points out, the explorer and everything else on a windows system shouldn't be taking up more than a few % of the CPU in task manager. If it's taking more, then you have serious problems such as a virus/malware/corrupted windows install etc.

What this means is that unless the CPU is running at 100% when running games, it shouldn't matter. As a general rule, games never take up anywhere near 100% CPU except maybe the most recent games such as BF1 on a dual/quad core non HT.
The % CPU usage of all windows explorer etc combined will just be added on top of the game CPU usage. The only time you should see a difference is if your game is taking 100% CPU, and cutting out % CPU from explorer etc gives it more headroom.

For example,
X game takes up 65% CPU on a 4 core i5.
Explorer/windows takes up 5% CPU
Total CPU when running game = 70% and has no impact on game performance.

This is because the game is only using a few threads, not all 4 for an i5 and certainly not all 8 for an i7. The spare real and virtual cores are doing the extra windows explorer processing in a manner which doesn't effect game performance.


If however, in the very unlikely event that the game is taking up 100% CPU, then disabling windows and explorer will net you ~5% extra performance.

If it's netting you more, then something is seriously wrong elsewhere in your system and you are treating the symptom, not the cause.

I am really glad it works for you guys and I would suggest investigating to make sure your system is working as best as it can :)

Windows 10 64-bit, Intel 7700K @ 5.1GHz, 16GB 3600MHz CL15 DDR4 RAM, 2x GTX 1080 SLI, Asus Maximus IX Hero, Sound Blaster ZxR, PCIe Quad SSD, Oculus Rift CV1, DLP Link PGD-150 glasses, ViewSonic PJD6531w 3D DLP Projector @ 1280x800 120Hz native / 2560x1600 120Hz DSR 3D Gaming.

#21
Posted 01/23/2017 02:59 PM   
Is not that WinExplorer takes a lot of CPU%. Normally it doesn't, but there are cases when it starts looking for updates, it starts indexing files, it starts doing a lot of things in the background. At this point, it will eat more CPU and access your HDDs. This is not a malware, virus problem. This is how WinExplorer works (as intended). Now normally, when you use Windows in an "office" environment or as a media theatre you will not see it! But when you are inside a game it will starts lagging, stuttering, slowing down and can cause crashes or hangs - since everything is now routed through Windows Explorer. This mode is NOT intended to replace the normal Windows usage. Is more of a "Console" mode for playing games. Once you played your game you should revert to the normal Shell. Windows - against what MS says - IS NOT a gaming OS. Is a GENERAL PURPOSE OS. What Windows decides to run in the background it will always take priority vs what you are currently seeing on the display, because is coded like this. Why would my game lag or stutter? Just because it decided to run Windows Defender in the background while I play? :) Perhaps I didn't say it, but the obvious solution for this is Laptops and Gaming on battery;) I managed to increase the duration of my battery to about 25% in this mode vs normal Windows Mode. (OFC this is with GFE Optimized for Battery, no 3D Vision and backlight set to minimum). It's awesome that I can boot and start my game withing 15 seconds so I don't lose a lot of power on booting up and windows doing stuff while it decides to "settles and idle".
Is not that WinExplorer takes a lot of CPU%. Normally it doesn't, but there are cases when it starts looking for updates, it starts indexing files, it starts doing a lot of things in the background.

At this point, it will eat more CPU and access your HDDs. This is not a malware, virus problem. This is how WinExplorer works (as intended).
Now normally, when you use Windows in an "office" environment or as a media theatre you will not see it! But when you are inside a game it will starts lagging, stuttering, slowing down and can cause crashes or hangs - since everything is now routed through Windows Explorer.

This mode is NOT intended to replace the normal Windows usage. Is more of a "Console" mode for playing games.
Once you played your game you should revert to the normal Shell.
Windows - against what MS says - IS NOT a gaming OS. Is a GENERAL PURPOSE OS. What Windows decides to run in the background it will always take priority vs what you are currently seeing on the display, because is coded like this.

Why would my game lag or stutter? Just because it decided to run Windows Defender in the background while I play? :)

Perhaps I didn't say it, but the obvious solution for this is Laptops and Gaming on battery;) I managed to increase the duration of my battery to about 25% in this mode vs normal Windows Mode. (OFC this is with GFE Optimized for Battery, no 3D Vision and backlight set to minimum). It's awesome that I can boot and start my game withing 15 seconds so I don't lose a lot of power on booting up and windows doing stuff while it decides to "settles and idle".

1x Palit RTX 2080Ti Pro Gaming OC(watercooled and overclocked to hell)
3x 3D Vision Ready Asus VG278HE monitors (5760x1080).
Intel i9 9900K (overclocked to 5.3 and watercooled ofc).
Asus Maximus XI Hero Mobo.
16 GB Team Group T-Force Dark Pro DDR4 @ 3600.
Lots of Disks:
- Raid 0 - 256GB Sandisk Extreme SSD.
- Raid 0 - WD Black - 2TB.
- SanDisk SSD PLUS 480 GB.
- Intel 760p 256GB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD.
Creative Sound Blaster Z.
Windows 10 x64 Pro.
etc


My website with my fixes and OpenGL to 3D Vision wrapper:
http://3dsurroundgaming.com

(If you like some of the stuff that I've done and want to donate something, you can do it with PayPal at tavyhome@gmail.com)

#22
Posted 01/23/2017 03:23 PM   
[quote="RAGEdemon"]What this means is that unless the CPU is running at 100% when running games, it shouldn't matter. As a general rule, games never take up anywhere near 100% CPU except maybe the most recent games such as BF1 on a dual/quad core non HT. [/quote] lol It's not like it's only when your GPU hits 100% that problems can occur. Doing this can do more than simply free up memory and GPU usage.
RAGEdemon said:What this means is that unless the CPU is running at 100% when running games, it shouldn't matter. As a general rule, games never take up anywhere near 100% CPU except maybe the most recent games such as BF1 on a dual/quad core non HT.


lol

It's not like it's only when your GPU hits 100% that problems can occur.

Doing this can do more than simply free up memory and GPU usage.

#23
Posted 01/23/2017 03:32 PM   
[quote="D-Man11"][quote="RAGEdemon"]What this means is that unless the CPU is running at 100% when running games, it shouldn't matter. As a general rule, games never take up anywhere near 100% CPU except maybe the most recent games such as BF1 on a dual/quad core non HT. [/quote] lol It's not like it's only when your GPU hits 100% that problems can occur. Doing this can do more than simply free up memory and GPU usage. [/quote] We're talking about CPUs mate, not GPUs, which are massively parallel and a different beast altogether :) Anyway, to lay the matter to rest, our very own Volnaiskra, a game developer and very experienced 3DVision gamer with a long history on 3D boards did testing a while back, even with 3DVision On, and here are his results. You can make your own conclusions :) [img]http://www.volnapc.com/uploads/3/0/9/1/30918989/9892387_orig.png[/img] His writeup is here: [url]http://www.volnapc.com/all-posts/do-background-programs-decrease-gaming-performance[/url] I shall quote his findings: "[i]As you can see, the difference is basically zilch. Certainly nothing meaningful. This is bad news for anyone who was hoping to pluck some extra performance by emptying their system tray. But personally, I'm relieved, as it means I won't ever feel compelled to go through that tiresome ritual of closing everything before each game session. Remember: I stressed my PC by setting all settings to max, and in the case of Hitman and Metro, my PC was struggling to produce barely playable framerates. Yet there was still no significant difference between before and after.[/i]" He also mentions a caveat resource hog. Hey, if it works for you then power to you my friend!
D-Man11 said:
RAGEdemon said:What this means is that unless the CPU is running at 100% when running games, it shouldn't matter. As a general rule, games never take up anywhere near 100% CPU except maybe the most recent games such as BF1 on a dual/quad core non HT.


lol

It's not like it's only when your GPU hits 100% that problems can occur.

Doing this can do more than simply free up memory and GPU usage.



We're talking about CPUs mate, not GPUs, which are massively parallel and a different beast altogether :)

Anyway, to lay the matter to rest, our very own Volnaiskra, a game developer and very experienced 3DVision gamer with a long history on 3D boards did testing a while back, even with 3DVision On, and here are his results. You can make your own conclusions :)


Image

His writeup is here:

http://www.volnapc.com/all-posts/do-background-programs-decrease-gaming-performance

I shall quote his findings:

"As you can see, the difference is basically zilch. Certainly nothing meaningful. This is bad news for anyone who was hoping to pluck some extra performance by emptying their system tray. But personally, I'm relieved, as it means I won't ever feel compelled to go through that tiresome ritual of closing everything before each game session.

Remember: I stressed my PC by setting all settings to max, and in the case of Hitman and Metro, my PC was struggling to produce barely playable framerates. Yet there was still no significant difference between before and after.
"

He also mentions a caveat resource hog.

Hey, if it works for you then power to you my friend!

Windows 10 64-bit, Intel 7700K @ 5.1GHz, 16GB 3600MHz CL15 DDR4 RAM, 2x GTX 1080 SLI, Asus Maximus IX Hero, Sound Blaster ZxR, PCIe Quad SSD, Oculus Rift CV1, DLP Link PGD-150 glasses, ViewSonic PJD6531w 3D DLP Projector @ 1280x800 120Hz native / 2560x1600 120Hz DSR 3D Gaming.

#24
Posted 01/23/2017 04:48 PM   
lol, typo, I meant CPU Performance isn't always measured in FPS, you can have 10,000 FPS and micro stutter or a game crash caused by a background service can still "ruin" your experience.
lol, typo, I meant CPU

Performance isn't always measured in FPS, you can have 10,000 FPS and micro stutter or a game crash caused by a background service can still "ruin" your experience.

#25
Posted 01/23/2017 04:53 PM   
[quote="RAGEdemon"][quote="D-Man11"][quote="RAGEdemon"]What this means is that unless the CPU is running at 100% when running games, it shouldn't matter. As a general rule, games never take up anywhere near 100% CPU except maybe the most recent games such as BF1 on a dual/quad core non HT. [/quote] lol It's not like it's only when your GPU hits 100% that problems can occur. Doing this can do more than simply free up memory and GPU usage. [/quote] We're talking about CPUs mate, not GPUs, which are massively parallel and a different beast altogether :) Anyway, to lay the matter to rest, our very own Volnaiskra, a game developer and very experienced 3DVision gamer with a long history on 3D boards did testing a while back, even with 3DVision On, and here are his results. You can make your own conclusions :) [img]http://www.volnapc.com/uploads/3/0/9/1/30918989/9892387_orig.png[/img] His writeup is here: [url]http://www.volnapc.com/all-posts/do-background-programs-decrease-gaming-performance[/url] I shall quote his findings: "[i]As you can see, the difference is basically zilch. Certainly nothing meaningful. This is bad news for anyone who was hoping to pluck some extra performance by emptying their system tray. But personally, I'm relieved, as it means I won't ever feel compelled to go through that tiresome ritual of closing everything before each game session. Remember: I stressed my PC by setting all settings to max, and in the case of Hitman and Metro, my PC was struggling to produce barely playable framerates. Yet there was still no significant difference between before and after.[/i]" He also mentions a caveat resource hog. Hey, if it works for you then power to you my friend![/quote] .... What are you talking about ? I literally said in the guide, this is not meant to give you better performance, but Stability! I actually said that yesterday, after I saw some people confused about what it does... Stability != Performance :) I am not sure where you are going with this discussion anyway... You want to run all the background stuff Windows normally runs? Be my guest :) If that works perfectly fine for you there is no problem. I just made this guide for some people who are having problems. And I even explained why it works and how it works... Just to avoid confusion. That benchmark image has no place in this thread as is completely outside the scope. (Also, no background apps is very vague. He does tell the list of 3rd party apps that worked in the background, but none of them is part of the Windows OS - where the problem lies. There is LITERALLY NO WAY to just run a game without other applications that make up Windows. So, that benchmark is pretty much useless... Everything was routed through the Windows Compositor thus you get no difference, no matter how many instances of Word or Paint you have open or not ^_^.) Anyway, I'll stop now. I don't really feel like explaining everything again (which partially is written in the first page). It's just another guide meant to help people if they have issues or want to experiment and see what they gain :)
RAGEdemon said:
D-Man11 said:
RAGEdemon said:What this means is that unless the CPU is running at 100% when running games, it shouldn't matter. As a general rule, games never take up anywhere near 100% CPU except maybe the most recent games such as BF1 on a dual/quad core non HT.


lol

It's not like it's only when your GPU hits 100% that problems can occur.

Doing this can do more than simply free up memory and GPU usage.



We're talking about CPUs mate, not GPUs, which are massively parallel and a different beast altogether :)

Anyway, to lay the matter to rest, our very own Volnaiskra, a game developer and very experienced 3DVision gamer with a long history on 3D boards did testing a while back, even with 3DVision On, and here are his results. You can make your own conclusions :)


Image

His writeup is here:

http://www.volnapc.com/all-posts/do-background-programs-decrease-gaming-performance

I shall quote his findings:

"As you can see, the difference is basically zilch. Certainly nothing meaningful. This is bad news for anyone who was hoping to pluck some extra performance by emptying their system tray. But personally, I'm relieved, as it means I won't ever feel compelled to go through that tiresome ritual of closing everything before each game session.

Remember: I stressed my PC by setting all settings to max, and in the case of Hitman and Metro, my PC was struggling to produce barely playable framerates. Yet there was still no significant difference between before and after.
"

He also mentions a caveat resource hog.

Hey, if it works for you then power to you my friend!


.... What are you talking about ? I literally said in the guide, this is not meant to give you better performance, but Stability!
I actually said that yesterday, after I saw some people confused about what it does...
Stability != Performance :)

I am not sure where you are going with this discussion anyway...
You want to run all the background stuff Windows normally runs? Be my guest :) If that works perfectly fine for you there is no problem.
I just made this guide for some people who are having problems. And I even explained why it works and how it works... Just to avoid confusion. That benchmark image has no place in this thread as is completely outside the scope.
(Also, no background apps is very vague. He does tell the list of 3rd party apps that worked in the background, but none of them is part of the Windows OS - where the problem lies.
There is LITERALLY NO WAY to just run a game without other applications that make up Windows. So, that benchmark is pretty much useless...
Everything was routed through the Windows Compositor thus you get no difference, no matter how many instances of Word or Paint you have open or not ^_^.)

Anyway, I'll stop now. I don't really feel like explaining everything again (which partially is written in the first page).

It's just another guide meant to help people if they have issues or want to experiment and see what they gain :)

1x Palit RTX 2080Ti Pro Gaming OC(watercooled and overclocked to hell)
3x 3D Vision Ready Asus VG278HE monitors (5760x1080).
Intel i9 9900K (overclocked to 5.3 and watercooled ofc).
Asus Maximus XI Hero Mobo.
16 GB Team Group T-Force Dark Pro DDR4 @ 3600.
Lots of Disks:
- Raid 0 - 256GB Sandisk Extreme SSD.
- Raid 0 - WD Black - 2TB.
- SanDisk SSD PLUS 480 GB.
- Intel 760p 256GB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD.
Creative Sound Blaster Z.
Windows 10 x64 Pro.
etc


My website with my fixes and OpenGL to 3D Vision wrapper:
http://3dsurroundgaming.com

(If you like some of the stuff that I've done and want to donate something, you can do it with PayPal at tavyhome@gmail.com)

#26
Posted 01/23/2017 05:40 PM   
Relax mate, I'm not meaning to get on your nerve :) In your OP, you talked about CPU cycles and posted pics of CPU usage - these both relate to performance. You do indeed also talk about stability. Mostly everyone else here has taken this as a performance enhancing tool. I'm just pointing out that: 1. Thank you for your hard work, I really appreciate this and will try it out to troubleshoot things down the line. 2. If people are seeing an increased performance then there is likely something else wrong with their system, which warrants an investigation as this should not be increasing performance significantly. Thanks again! :)
Relax mate, I'm not meaning to get on your nerve :)

In your OP, you talked about CPU cycles and posted pics of CPU usage - these both relate to performance. You do indeed also talk about stability. Mostly everyone else here has taken this as a performance enhancing tool. I'm just pointing out that:

1. Thank you for your hard work, I really appreciate this and will try it out to troubleshoot things down the line.

2. If people are seeing an increased performance then there is likely something else wrong with their system, which warrants an investigation as this should not be increasing performance significantly.

Thanks again! :)

Windows 10 64-bit, Intel 7700K @ 5.1GHz, 16GB 3600MHz CL15 DDR4 RAM, 2x GTX 1080 SLI, Asus Maximus IX Hero, Sound Blaster ZxR, PCIe Quad SSD, Oculus Rift CV1, DLP Link PGD-150 glasses, ViewSonic PJD6531w 3D DLP Projector @ 1280x800 120Hz native / 2560x1600 120Hz DSR 3D Gaming.

#27
Posted 01/23/2017 06:00 PM   
When referring to performance I, personally, take in consideration the definition from the Collins Dictionary: "performance (pəˈfɔːməns ) Definitions noun [...] 3. manner or quality of functioning" Now, since I've personally witnessed a much smoother experience with Witcher 3 with the windows explorer neutralised (no, I wasn't dreaming or imagining things - I was genuinely impressed by the fact), I believe I can call this an[b] increase [/b]in the [i]'manner or quality of functioning[/i]' aka. '[i]performance[/i]'. ;)
When referring to performance I, personally, take in consideration the definition from the Collins Dictionary:

"performance
(pəˈfɔːməns )
Definitions

noun

[...]
3. manner or quality of functioning"


Now, since I've personally witnessed a much smoother experience with Witcher 3 with the windows explorer neutralised (no, I wasn't dreaming or imagining things - I was genuinely impressed by the fact), I believe I can call this an increase in the 'manner or quality of functioning' aka. 'performance'. ;)

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#28
Posted 01/23/2017 06:30 PM   
If , i have an nvidia gt660, amd quadcore x4 9650, 8 gygas Ram, Nvidia 3d Set, on a Gygabite motherboard + a xbox360 controller pad; Can i use the code u post as it is? or i need to make any change before?
If , i have an nvidia gt660, amd quadcore x4 9650, 8 gygas Ram, Nvidia 3d Set, on a Gygabite motherboard + a xbox360 controller pad;
Can i use the code u post as it is? or i need to make any change before?

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#29
Posted 01/23/2017 06:44 PM   
[quote="RAGEdemon"]Relax mate, I'm not meaning to get on your nerve :) In your OP, you talked about CPU cycles and posted pics of CPU usage - these both relate to performance. You do indeed also talk about stability. Mostly everyone else here has taken this as a performance enhancing tool. I'm just pointing out that: 1. Thank you for your hard work, I really appreciate this and will try it out to troubleshoot things down the line. 2. If people are seeing an increased performance then there is likely something else wrong with their system, which warrants an investigation as this should not be increasing performance significantly. Thanks again! :)[/quote] RAGEdemon , if you don't need it, be my guest and don't use. Please don't try to prove your point by using a benchmark where we don't even know if the limiting is on CPU or GPU. What resolution is he using? I would assume 4k by the results...... Where does the CPU fit into this? ...and continue to say people have problems with their computers if they gain something proves how little you understanding is. I have to be honest, smart-asses like you get on my nerve. And I see your "wise" comments everywhere.
RAGEdemon said:Relax mate, I'm not meaning to get on your nerve :)

In your OP, you talked about CPU cycles and posted pics of CPU usage - these both relate to performance. You do indeed also talk about stability. Mostly everyone else here has taken this as a performance enhancing tool. I'm just pointing out that:

1. Thank you for your hard work, I really appreciate this and will try it out to troubleshoot things down the line.

2. If people are seeing an increased performance then there is likely something else wrong with their system, which warrants an investigation as this should not be increasing performance significantly.

Thanks again! :)


RAGEdemon , if you don't need it, be my guest and don't use.
Please don't try to prove your point by using a benchmark where we don't even know if the limiting is on CPU or GPU. What resolution is he using? I would assume 4k by the results...... Where does the CPU fit into this?
...and continue to say people have problems with their computers if they gain something proves how little you understanding is.

I have to be honest, smart-asses like you get on my nerve.
And I see your "wise" comments everywhere.

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#30
Posted 01/23/2017 07:21 PM   
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