Getting Samsung - 55" Class LED 4K Curved Ultra HD TV 120Hz 3D with HDMI 2.0??/
Hello all, My current Tv crapped out and since I had a warranty Best buy is replacing it. I opted to go with the TV mentioned above. I currently use 3D TV play for the Tv I had which was HDMI 1.4 and I could only do 1080p at 24hz. My question is will 3d look bad if Im running my game at 1080p on a Native 4K 3d TV? Will I be able to run at 1080p at 60hz with HDMI 2.0? These are all questions I have. Im not sure if I should cancel my order and just go with a bigger regular 1080p 3d TV. Ps Ive only used samsung because of their active 3D shutter glasses. Thanks in advance.
Hello all,

My current Tv crapped out and since I had a warranty Best buy is replacing it. I opted to go with the TV mentioned above. I currently use 3D TV play for the Tv I had which was HDMI 1.4 and I could only do 1080p at 24hz.

My question is will 3d look bad if Im running my game at 1080p on a Native 4K 3d TV? Will I be able to run at 1080p at 60hz with HDMI 2.0? These are all questions I have. Im not sure if I should cancel my order and just go with a bigger regular 1080p 3d TV.

Ps Ive only used samsung because of their active 3D shutter glasses.

Thanks in advance.

#1
Posted 07/19/2014 01:04 AM   
The bandwidth required to run 1920x1080@120Hz is just slightly more than 3840x2160@30Hz and is doable. 1920x1080@120Hz has a pixel clock of 285.5424, 3840x2160@30Hz is 262.9200. I've tried it on 39inch Seiki 4K. While 1080P didn't look great on the Seiki, I'd imagine it would look quite a bit better on a Samsung. Whether Samsung or Nvidia supports 3D at 1920x1080@120hz is a good question. Nvidia only supports 1920x1080@120Hz via Display Port and Dual Link DVI as far as I know. But 3DTV Play works via a HDMI connection only. You might find the following article interesting How Has Nvidia Managed to Push 60Hz 4K Over HDMI 1.4? http://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia-kepler-4k-hdmi-1.4,27117.html
The bandwidth required to run 1920x1080@120Hz is just slightly more than 3840x2160@30Hz and is doable. 1920x1080@120Hz has a pixel clock of 285.5424, 3840x2160@30Hz is 262.9200. I've tried it on 39inch Seiki 4K. While 1080P didn't look great on the Seiki, I'd imagine it would look quite a bit better on a Samsung.


Whether Samsung or Nvidia supports 3D at 1920x1080@120hz is a good question. Nvidia only supports 1920x1080@120Hz via Display Port and Dual Link DVI as far as I know. But 3DTV Play works via a HDMI connection only.

You might find the following article interesting

How Has Nvidia Managed to Push 60Hz 4K Over HDMI 1.4?
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia-kepler-4k-hdmi-1.4,27117.html

#2
Posted 07/19/2014 01:49 AM   
I can't imagine 3d would look great. Maybe you could bring your PC to the store to test it?
I can't imagine 3d would look great. Maybe you could bring your PC to the store to test it?

#3
Posted 07/19/2014 04:16 AM   
Not gonna mix any words here: I don't see how it would matter whether it worked or not. http://www.displaylag.com/display-database/ In its absolute lowest input lag mode, the lag is 73ms on that set (and that's in 2D mode). TV's an absolute pig for gaming.
Not gonna mix any words here: I don't see how it would matter whether it worked or not.

http://www.displaylag.com/display-database/

In its absolute lowest input lag mode, the lag is 73ms on that set (and that's in 2D mode).

TV's an absolute pig for gaming.

#4
Posted 07/19/2014 03:31 PM   
I've heard scaling down up to 4k adds a little bit of lag too. I'd check some other reviews for input lag as well just in case.
I've heard scaling down up to 4k adds a little bit of lag too. I'd check some other reviews for input lag as well just in case.

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#5
Posted 07/20/2014 02:42 AM   
[quote="Paul33993"] Not gonna mix any words here: I don't see how it would matter whether it worked or not. http://www.displaylag.com/display-database/ In its absolute lowest input lag mode, the lag is 73ms on that set (and that's in 2D mode). TV's an absolute pig for gaming.[/quote] This TV looks beatiful even on 3D. However, the delay is unbearable. I am returning this TV because of that and the price.
Paul33993 said:

Not gonna mix any words here: I don't see how it would matter whether it worked or not.


http://www.displaylag.com/display-database/


In its absolute lowest input lag mode, the lag is 73ms on that set (and that's in 2D mode).

TV's an absolute pig for gaming.


This TV looks beatiful even on 3D. However, the delay is unbearable. I am returning this TV because of that and the price.

#6
Posted 07/21/2014 09:51 PM   
Did you try game mode and labeling the input to "PC"?
Did you try game mode and labeling the input to "PC"?

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#7
Posted 07/22/2014 05:00 AM   
73ms, for the PC mode, is still pretty horrible unless you're completely insensitive to it. And I don't know that I've ever seen an HDTV that doesn't add significant lag when in 3D mode. A lot of processing can't be disabled when in 3D. So I'm guessing that set is an absolute train wreck in 3D mode. It's really disappointing how many upscale TVs are worthless for gaming. I get why LCD needs it. Because it's a terrible technology that needs a ton of help unless you're going to go TN/120hz input/strobing. But some of the new OLEDs, which don't need the goofy processing to compensate for inadequacies and have lighting quick switching times, are 200+ ms for lag.
73ms, for the PC mode, is still pretty horrible unless you're completely insensitive to it.

And I don't know that I've ever seen an HDTV that doesn't add significant lag when in 3D mode. A lot of processing can't be disabled when in 3D. So I'm guessing that set is an absolute train wreck in 3D mode.

It's really disappointing how many upscale TVs are worthless for gaming. I get why LCD needs it. Because it's a terrible technology that needs a ton of help unless you're going to go TN/120hz input/strobing. But some of the new OLEDs, which don't need the goofy processing to compensate for inadequacies and have lighting quick switching times, are 200+ ms for lag.

#8
Posted 07/22/2014 11:47 AM   
dont find input lag on mine horrible at all. compared to the gaming laptop or the desktop monitor, its simply not an issue
dont find input lag on mine horrible at all. compared to the gaming laptop or the desktop monitor, its simply not an issue

65" Samsung ES8000 LED, i7-3820, Asus P9X79, GTX680 SLI, Win8 Checkerboard /Win7 Frame Sequential

#9
Posted 07/23/2014 12:04 AM   
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