Should I buy Acer H5360 or wait for new projectors or buy panasonic plasma 3d ?money not issue ?
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Hi, I want to have the best experience for 3D ( Movies and Gaming ) but I do not Know What to buy !!
Should I buy the Acer H5360 ( but I am afraid of the Depth issue and the resolution) or wait for an upcoming Projectors if there is any to be released soon ..or Should I buy the Panasosonic 3D plasma .....I need some advises cz I need somthing with good quality (like panasonic plasma) but I'm afraid of the size ..and I need something Big (like projectors ) to experience the IMAX !! but I am Afraid of the quality loss in projectors ?? Any Advises!! Money is not a big issue (but not too expensive)!!
1- wait for new pj or buy the h5360 or buy the panasonic plasma !!?? /confused.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':confused:' /> /confused.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':confused:' />
Hi, I want to have the best experience for 3D ( Movies and Gaming ) but I do not Know What to buy !!

Should I buy the Acer H5360 ( but I am afraid of the Depth issue and the resolution) or wait for an upcoming Projectors if there is any to be released soon ..or Should I buy the Panasosonic 3D plasma .....I need some advises cz I need somthing with good quality (like panasonic plasma) but I'm afraid of the size ..and I need something Big (like projectors ) to experience the IMAX !! but I am Afraid of the quality loss in projectors ?? Any Advises!! Money is not a big issue (but not too expensive)!!

1- wait for new pj or buy the h5360 or buy the panasonic plasma !!?? /confused.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':confused:' /> /confused.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':confused:' />

#1
Posted 05/21/2010 10:32 AM   
try first if you prefer darker or brighter 3d.
try first if you prefer darker or brighter 3d.

#2
Posted 05/21/2010 11:09 AM   
If money is not a major issue then you should try go the dual projector way. I've done some research into this and you can build your own Home 3d theatre, similar to imax quality for cheaper than a price of a 3d tv. What you need is :

Two 1080p projectors for best quality (you can get one for 600 quid so two will be..) = £1200

A silver screen = This really ranges in price depending on size...I have seen some screens cost £500 pounds but im assuming they are MASSIVE! so maybe something for the living room might cost only £200 etc. I know you can buy ULTRA 3D SILVER paint from goo systems which has really good reviews and thats like £50 or somethin, cheap.

Two Linear filters to be placed over each projector...I gotta admit I really dont know to much on how much these costs but I'm just gonna assume they could be like £100-200.

Linear Glasses = £2

Thats it...oh considering you got a good gpu and cpu.

So whats that come upto.....£1600-2000......I've seen 3D tv's in john lewis start from this price. From what I've read, 3d is better when its BIG..and doing it the projector way is certainly the way forward to get BIG 3D.

Few disadvantages though....

Running costs...after a year and a half, or depending how much you use the projector daily, your going to have to replace the lamps. I have a feeling the filters will have to be replaced maybe due to heat damage?

The 1080p projectors you can pick up for under a grand have great brightness...however they do not have LENS SHIFT ALIGNMENT....they use KEYSTONE CORRECTION...now i've read that using keystone correction to align 2 projectors isn't that bad if you use the native resolution of both projectors...so this could be a really minor problem. Hopefully no issue of cross-talk.

Basically everything I have said is all the information people on here have told me and what I have read so I apologise if I have a made a few errors. I am going to be doing this set up later in the year and if you google this subject, there are alot of people and guides on how to do it and each have said the results have blown them away. They said its close to cinema as you can get.
If money is not a major issue then you should try go the dual projector way. I've done some research into this and you can build your own Home 3d theatre, similar to imax quality for cheaper than a price of a 3d tv. What you need is :



Two 1080p projectors for best quality (you can get one for 600 quid so two will be..) = £1200



A silver screen = This really ranges in price depending on size...I have seen some screens cost £500 pounds but im assuming they are MASSIVE! so maybe something for the living room might cost only £200 etc. I know you can buy ULTRA 3D SILVER paint from goo systems which has really good reviews and thats like £50 or somethin, cheap.



Two Linear filters to be placed over each projector...I gotta admit I really dont know to much on how much these costs but I'm just gonna assume they could be like £100-200.



Linear Glasses = £2



Thats it...oh considering you got a good gpu and cpu.



So whats that come upto.....£1600-2000......I've seen 3D tv's in john lewis start from this price. From what I've read, 3d is better when its BIG..and doing it the projector way is certainly the way forward to get BIG 3D.



Few disadvantages though....



Running costs...after a year and a half, or depending how much you use the projector daily, your going to have to replace the lamps. I have a feeling the filters will have to be replaced maybe due to heat damage?



The 1080p projectors you can pick up for under a grand have great brightness...however they do not have LENS SHIFT ALIGNMENT....they use KEYSTONE CORRECTION...now i've read that using keystone correction to align 2 projectors isn't that bad if you use the native resolution of both projectors...so this could be a really minor problem. Hopefully no issue of cross-talk.



Basically everything I have said is all the information people on here have told me and what I have read so I apologise if I have a made a few errors. I am going to be doing this set up later in the year and if you google this subject, there are alot of people and guides on how to do it and each have said the results have blown them away. They said its close to cinema as you can get.

#3
Posted 05/21/2010 03:53 PM   
[quote name='planet-earth' post='1059310' date='May 21 2010, 03:32 AM']Hi, I want to have the best experience for 3D ( Movies and Gaming ) but I do not Know What to buy !!
Should I buy the Acer H5360 ( but I am afraid of the Depth issue and the resolution) or wait for an upcoming Projectors if there is any to be released soon ..or Should I buy the Panasosonic 3D plasma .....I need some advises cz I need somthing with good quality (like panasonic plasma) but I'm afraid of the size ..and I need something Big (like projectors ) to experience the IMAX !! but I am Afraid of the quality loss in projectors ?? Any Advises!! Money is not a big issue (but not too expensive)!!
1- wait for new pj or buy the h5360 or buy the panasonic plasma !!?? /confused.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':confused:' /> /confused.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':confused:' />[/quote]

I would wait and see- the dual projector setup limits you to iz3d drivers which are very immature right now- and lacking major features (only dx 9, no sli). wait for a true HD gaming- movie device that will surley come out someday or for the iz3d drivers to mature. or go for the new hdmi 3d tv's and live with 720p gaming and HD blue ray. its up to you.
[quote name='planet-earth' post='1059310' date='May 21 2010, 03:32 AM']Hi, I want to have the best experience for 3D ( Movies and Gaming ) but I do not Know What to buy !!

Should I buy the Acer H5360 ( but I am afraid of the Depth issue and the resolution) or wait for an upcoming Projectors if there is any to be released soon ..or Should I buy the Panasosonic 3D plasma .....I need some advises cz I need somthing with good quality (like panasonic plasma) but I'm afraid of the size ..and I need something Big (like projectors ) to experience the IMAX !! but I am Afraid of the quality loss in projectors ?? Any Advises!! Money is not a big issue (but not too expensive)!!

1- wait for new pj or buy the h5360 or buy the panasonic plasma !!?? /confused.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':confused:' /> /confused.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':confused:' />



I would wait and see- the dual projector setup limits you to iz3d drivers which are very immature right now- and lacking major features (only dx 9, no sli). wait for a true HD gaming- movie device that will surley come out someday or for the iz3d drivers to mature. or go for the new hdmi 3d tv's and live with 720p gaming and HD blue ray. its up to you.

System:

Intel I7 920 overclocked to 4ghz

Asus Rampage Extreme II

2 Ge-force 480 in SLI

GTX 295 PhysX Card

12gb ddr3 2000mhz ram

Intel SSD in RAID 0

BR RW

1000w Sony surround sound

NVIDIA 3D Vision



3d displays tested:



Mitsubishi 65" DLP 3d HDTV (good old 1080p checkerboard since 2007!!!)

Panasonic VT25 (nice 2d but I returned it due to cross talk)

Acer H5360 720p on 130" screen (the best 3d)

23" Acer LCD monitor (horrible cross talk- sold it)

Samsung 65D8000

#4
Posted 05/21/2010 04:43 PM   
Definately , size plus brightness, lol.

"ULTRA 3D SILVER paint from goo systems which has really good reviews and thats like £50 or somethin, cheap."

nah, its like 250 with coating for a 120" screen.
Definately , size plus brightness, lol.



"ULTRA 3D SILVER paint from goo systems which has really good reviews and thats like £50 or somethin, cheap."



nah, its like 250 with coating for a 120" screen.

#5
Posted 05/21/2010 05:33 PM   
Dual Projection system not supported by 3D Vision drivers. You cant play games on PC with Nvidia glasses /confused.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':confused:' />
Dual Projection system not supported by 3D Vision drivers. You cant play games on PC with Nvidia glasses /confused.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':confused:' />

4K3D on passive LG OLED 4K TV 65C6V, GTX 1080 Ti, Win 8.1 64 Pro, i7-7700, 3D-Vision 2 on Benq LW61-LED PJ. HTC Vive. Panasonic Z-10000 3D Camcorder

#6
Posted 05/21/2010 07:04 PM   
thank you guys...... do you know if any new 3d pj is comming soon, at least better than the H5360....or should I buy the H5360
thank you guys...... do you know if any new 3d pj is comming soon, at least better than the H5360....or should I buy the H5360

#7
Posted 05/21/2010 07:32 PM   
[quote name='RS422' post='1059517' date='May 21 2010, 09:04 PM']Dual Projection system not supported by 3D Vision drivers. You cant play games on PC with Nvidia glasses /confused.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':confused:' />[/quote]No problem: You can play most older games between dx4 and dx8 using old school nvidia drivers (which supports dual vga). Otherwise there's always iz3d and tridef drivers. Nvidia's more or less a niche product nowadays since they're only supports one single hardware. :P
[quote name='RS422' post='1059517' date='May 21 2010, 09:04 PM']Dual Projection system not supported by 3D Vision drivers. You cant play games on PC with Nvidia glasses /confused.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':confused:' />No problem: You can play most older games between dx4 and dx8 using old school nvidia drivers (which supports dual vga). Otherwise there's always iz3d and tridef drivers. Nvidia's more or less a niche product nowadays since they're only supports one single hardware. :P

Image

Mb: Asus P5W DH Deluxe

Cpu: C2D E6600

Gb: Nvidia 7900GT + 8800GTX

3D:100" passive projector polarized setup + 22" IZ3D

Stereodrivers: Iz3d & Tridef ignition and nvidia old school.

#8
Posted 05/21/2010 09:12 PM   
[quote name='tritosine' post='1059457' date='May 21 2010, 06:33 PM']Definately , size plus brightness, lol.

"ULTRA 3D SILVER paint from goo systems which has really good reviews and thats like £50 or somethin, cheap."

nah, its like 250 with coating for a 120" screen.[/quote]


mate do u know any reputable companies or websites that sell good silverscreens? and also filters?

Ive heard that the heat from the lamps damage the filters so u have to put them a certain distance back from the lamp...How far we talkin?
[quote name='tritosine' post='1059457' date='May 21 2010, 06:33 PM']Definately , size plus brightness, lol.



"ULTRA 3D SILVER paint from goo systems which has really good reviews and thats like £50 or somethin, cheap."



nah, its like 250 with coating for a 120" screen.





mate do u know any reputable companies or websites that sell good silverscreens? and also filters?



Ive heard that the heat from the lamps damage the filters so u have to put them a certain distance back from the lamp...How far we talkin?

#9
Posted 05/22/2010 11:44 AM   
[quote name='tritosine' post='1059457' date='May 21 2010, 06:33 PM']Definately , size plus brightness, lol.

"ULTRA 3D SILVER paint from goo systems which has really good reviews and thats like £50 or somethin, cheap."

nah, its like 250 with coating for a 120" screen.[/quote]


mate do u know any reputable companies or websites that sell good silverscreens? and also filters?

Ive heard that the heat from the lamps damage the filters so u have to put them a certain distance back from the lamp...How far we talkin?
[quote name='tritosine' post='1059457' date='May 21 2010, 06:33 PM']Definately , size plus brightness, lol.



"ULTRA 3D SILVER paint from goo systems which has really good reviews and thats like £50 or somethin, cheap."



nah, its like 250 with coating for a 120" screen.





mate do u know any reputable companies or websites that sell good silverscreens? and also filters?



Ive heard that the heat from the lamps damage the filters so u have to put them a certain distance back from the lamp...How far we talkin?

#10
Posted 05/22/2010 11:44 AM   
Actually cheap paint works very very well, but that goo stuff is anything but cheap. Maybe good idea to upgrade once.
Actually cheap paint works very very well, but that goo stuff is anything but cheap. Maybe good idea to upgrade once.

#11
Posted 05/22/2010 12:01 PM   
Actually cheap paint works very very well, but that goo stuff is anything but cheap. Maybe good idea to upgrade once.
Actually cheap paint works very very well, but that goo stuff is anything but cheap. Maybe good idea to upgrade once.

#12
Posted 05/22/2010 12:01 PM   
[quote name='DanielJoy' post='1059420' date='May 21 2010, 06:43 PM']I would wait and see- the dual projector setup limits you to iz3d drivers which are very immature right now- and lacking major features (only dx 9, no sli). wait for a true HD gaming- movie device that will surley come out someday or for the iz3d drivers to mature. or go for the new hdmi 3d tv's and live with 720p gaming and HD blue ray. its up to you.[/quote]
Dual projector setups are not only limited to iZ3D drivers. You can also use DDD Tridef drivers, and if the game developers implement 3D natively into their engines, it is very easy for them to implement dual projector support as it does not require specific 3D drivers to work. For example Avatar implemented it.
[quote name='DanielJoy' post='1059420' date='May 21 2010, 06:43 PM']I would wait and see- the dual projector setup limits you to iz3d drivers which are very immature right now- and lacking major features (only dx 9, no sli). wait for a true HD gaming- movie device that will surley come out someday or for the iz3d drivers to mature. or go for the new hdmi 3d tv's and live with 720p gaming and HD blue ray. its up to you.

Dual projector setups are not only limited to iZ3D drivers. You can also use DDD Tridef drivers, and if the game developers implement 3D natively into their engines, it is very easy for them to implement dual projector support as it does not require specific 3D drivers to work. For example Avatar implemented it.

Passive 3D forever
110" DIY dual-projection system
2x Epson EH-TW3500 (1080p) + Linear Polarizers (SPAR)
XtremScreen Daylight 2.0
VNS Geobox501 signal converter

#13
Posted 05/22/2010 01:17 PM   
[quote name='DanielJoy' post='1059420' date='May 21 2010, 06:43 PM']I would wait and see- the dual projector setup limits you to iz3d drivers which are very immature right now- and lacking major features (only dx 9, no sli). wait for a true HD gaming- movie device that will surley come out someday or for the iz3d drivers to mature. or go for the new hdmi 3d tv's and live with 720p gaming and HD blue ray. its up to you.[/quote]
Dual projector setups are not only limited to iZ3D drivers. You can also use DDD Tridef drivers, and if the game developers implement 3D natively into their engines, it is very easy for them to implement dual projector support as it does not require specific 3D drivers to work. For example Avatar implemented it.
[quote name='DanielJoy' post='1059420' date='May 21 2010, 06:43 PM']I would wait and see- the dual projector setup limits you to iz3d drivers which are very immature right now- and lacking major features (only dx 9, no sli). wait for a true HD gaming- movie device that will surley come out someday or for the iz3d drivers to mature. or go for the new hdmi 3d tv's and live with 720p gaming and HD blue ray. its up to you.

Dual projector setups are not only limited to iZ3D drivers. You can also use DDD Tridef drivers, and if the game developers implement 3D natively into their engines, it is very easy for them to implement dual projector support as it does not require specific 3D drivers to work. For example Avatar implemented it.

Passive 3D forever
110" DIY dual-projection system
2x Epson EH-TW3500 (1080p) + Linear Polarizers (SPAR)
XtremScreen Daylight 2.0
VNS Geobox501 signal converter

#14
Posted 05/22/2010 01:17 PM   
[quote name='dandesign' post='1059855' date='May 22 2010, 01:44 PM']mate do u know any reputable companies or websites that sell good silverscreens? and also filters?

Ive heard that the heat from the lamps damage the filters so u have to put them a certain distance back from the lamp...How far we talkin?[/quote]The radiation from the lamps indeed are killers for plastic polarizers (tried attaching them directly to the lenses and they fried within 10 hours. After increasing the distance to 7 centimetres from the lenses they managed more than 50 hours without signs of depolarization (pj's are lcd's with 2500 lumens btw). Professional filters are stamped with the recommended projectorlumens and have no problems being attached directly to the lenses. The spars i use have 5000 lumen rating for instance and has been around for maybe 1000 bulbhours without any at all signs of wear.
I recently tried two different silverish spraypaints with unexpected good result. There's threads both on mtbs3d and avsforums about such paints. Plastic polarizers aren't too cheap but the material for a rig won't cost many dollars. It's more an issue of getting your hands on it.
You don't even need polarizationfilters if you plan to watch stereomovies only. The stereobright option in stereoscopic player supports lcd-monitors in a stereobright config. Instead of polarizers you simply put very cheap retarderfoils in front of the lenses. It ghosts quite more than using standard polarizers but you have no lightlosses from the projectors (i think it's actually even brighter than the spars which makes sense). For this simple circular polarized real-d glasses are enough. Get more pairs by supporting your 3d-cinema.
[quote name='dandesign' post='1059855' date='May 22 2010, 01:44 PM']mate do u know any reputable companies or websites that sell good silverscreens? and also filters?



Ive heard that the heat from the lamps damage the filters so u have to put them a certain distance back from the lamp...How far we talkin?The radiation from the lamps indeed are killers for plastic polarizers (tried attaching them directly to the lenses and they fried within 10 hours. After increasing the distance to 7 centimetres from the lenses they managed more than 50 hours without signs of depolarization (pj's are lcd's with 2500 lumens btw). Professional filters are stamped with the recommended projectorlumens and have no problems being attached directly to the lenses. The spars i use have 5000 lumen rating for instance and has been around for maybe 1000 bulbhours without any at all signs of wear.

I recently tried two different silverish spraypaints with unexpected good result. There's threads both on mtbs3d and avsforums about such paints. Plastic polarizers aren't too cheap but the material for a rig won't cost many dollars. It's more an issue of getting your hands on it.

You don't even need polarizationfilters if you plan to watch stereomovies only. The stereobright option in stereoscopic player supports lcd-monitors in a stereobright config. Instead of polarizers you simply put very cheap retarderfoils in front of the lenses. It ghosts quite more than using standard polarizers but you have no lightlosses from the projectors (i think it's actually even brighter than the spars which makes sense). For this simple circular polarized real-d glasses are enough. Get more pairs by supporting your 3d-cinema.

Image

Mb: Asus P5W DH Deluxe

Cpu: C2D E6600

Gb: Nvidia 7900GT + 8800GTX

3D:100" passive projector polarized setup + 22" IZ3D

Stereodrivers: Iz3d & Tridef ignition and nvidia old school.

#15
Posted 05/22/2010 02:06 PM   
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