Using the 3D Vision glasses ? You can now tweak your glasses timings
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Hmmmm, just got an XB272 that does 240 hz (and 144 in ULMB mode) ... I think some testing is gonna be needed!
Hmmmm, just got an XB272 that does 240 hz (and 144 in ULMB mode)

... I think some testing is gonna be needed!

#16
Posted 04/14/2019 01:15 AM   
For now, you will have to set up a custom resolution in nvcpl and then force the game to use that (so you get an unsupported mode message), then define the timing for the glasses to match that custom resolution, the next version should have additional DLL patching option so that the custom resolution step isnt required
For now, you will have to set up a custom resolution in nvcpl and then force the game to use that (so you get an unsupported mode message), then define the timing for the glasses to match that custom resolution, the next version should have additional DLL patching option so that the custom resolution step isnt required

#17
Posted 04/14/2019 02:47 AM   
So when 3D Vision erroneously kicks in on my 4K monitor at 60HZ would I be able to use this to make the glasses work at 60hz and play in 3D at 30 FPS?
So when 3D Vision erroneously kicks in on my 4K monitor at 60HZ would I be able to use this to make the glasses work at 60hz and play in 3D at 30 FPS?

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#18
Posted 04/14/2019 12:50 PM   
61.25Hz is the minimum 3d vision refresh rate, apparently (just use 62Hz)
61.25Hz is the minimum 3d vision refresh rate, apparently (just use 62Hz)

#19
Posted 04/14/2019 02:01 PM   
What about... Anytime that 3DTV Play is enabled, the emitter is deactivated and only acts as a product key. Would it be possible to brute force the emitter on and use Nvidia's glasses? I was curious, because it might be possible to use Checkerboard + Nvidia's glasses on some TVs/3DHD TVs.
What about...

Anytime that 3DTV Play is enabled, the emitter is deactivated and only acts as a product key. Would it be possible to brute force the emitter on and use Nvidia's glasses?

I was curious, because it might be possible to use Checkerboard + Nvidia's glasses on some TVs/3DHD TVs.

#20
Posted 04/14/2019 02:10 PM   
Generic cases like 3DTV Play (HDMI Frame packed, Checkerboard, Line interleave), DLP-link, "Generic CRT" do not even use the timings defined in these tables. You would have to patch out a couple of detection methods in nvSCPAPIXX.dll so that it matches your monitor to a LCD Flat panel that the emitter timings are made custom for. This is complicated manual work and out of the scope of this tool.
Generic cases like 3DTV Play (HDMI Frame packed, Checkerboard, Line interleave), DLP-link, "Generic CRT" do not even use the timings defined in these tables. You would have to patch out a couple of detection methods in nvSCPAPIXX.dll so that it matches your monitor to a LCD Flat panel that the emitter timings are made custom for. This is complicated manual work and out of the scope of this tool.

#21
Posted 04/14/2019 02:30 PM   
Thanks for the reply and the tool
Thanks for the reply and the tool

#22
Posted 04/14/2019 02:37 PM   
[quote="rajkosto"]Generic cases like 3DTV Play (HDMI Frame packed, Checkerboard, Line interleave), DLP-link, "Generic CRT" do not even use the timings defined in these tables. You would have to patch out a couple of detection methods in nvSCPAPIXX.dll so that it matches your monitor to a LCD Flat panel that the emitter timings are made custom for. This is complicated manual work and out of the scope of this tool.[/quote] Ah, so just to be clear, this tool has no effect if using generic CRT mode? How about if I used CRU to spoof a 3d compatible display such that it is the display being shown under the 3d vision control panel settings? Would the tool work then? From what you've said this tool actually adjusts the encrypted timings in the registry that are associated with the display, rather than overriding emitter controls? Is that right or am I completely misunderstanding? Thanks again! :-)
rajkosto said:Generic cases like 3DTV Play (HDMI Frame packed, Checkerboard, Line interleave), DLP-link, "Generic CRT" do not even use the timings defined in these tables. You would have to patch out a couple of detection methods in nvSCPAPIXX.dll so that it matches your monitor to a LCD Flat panel that the emitter timings are made custom for. This is complicated manual work and out of the scope of this tool.


Ah, so just to be clear, this tool has no effect if using generic CRT mode?

How about if I used CRU to spoof a 3d compatible display such that it is the display being shown under the 3d vision control panel settings? Would the tool work then?

From what you've said this tool actually adjusts the encrypted timings in the registry that are associated with the display, rather than overriding emitter controls?

Is that right or am I completely misunderstanding? Thanks again! :-)

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#23
Posted 04/14/2019 02:57 PM   
This tool has tons of potential. Thanks for sharing. Great work! I have a feeling that using this tool combined with other utilities and custom resolution tweaks somehow we may figure out ways to make 3D Vision work on non 3D certified displays. Am I on the right path?
This tool has tons of potential. Thanks for sharing. Great work!

I have a feeling that using this tool combined with other utilities and custom resolution tweaks somehow we may figure out ways to make 3D Vision work on non 3D certified displays. Am I on the right path?

#24
Posted 04/14/2019 08:17 PM   
It can be done but you need another feature in the tool which i will be implementing soon
It can be done but you need another feature in the tool which i will be implementing soon

#25
Posted 04/14/2019 08:49 PM   
Awesome news! It would be really cool if we figure out enabling 3D Vision on ultra wide screens or 32' screens with minimal or no ghosting, like XG32VQ or PG348Q. Users have tried activating 3D no non supported screens but ghosting is severe. This tool would definitely alleviate that.
Awesome news! It would be really cool if we figure out enabling 3D Vision on ultra wide screens or 32' screens with minimal or no ghosting, like XG32VQ or PG348Q. Users have tried activating 3D no non supported screens but ghosting is severe. This tool would definitely alleviate that.

#26
Posted 04/14/2019 09:01 PM   
The tool will help and is actually a massive development IMHO, but don't expect miracles in terms of support of other displays. There is a very good reason why the only certified displays are all TN panels.
The tool will help and is actually a massive development IMHO, but don't expect miracles in terms of support of other displays. There is a very good reason why the only certified displays are all TN panels.

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#27
Posted 04/14/2019 09:30 PM   
There's also an actual PHYSICAL incompatibility with the 3d vision glasses with some IPS screens... the polarizers on the screen need to match the polarizer in the glasses and not be 90 degrees off (or random in the screen) otherwise you will just not be able to see the screen with the glasses on and active (try using your phone while the glasses are shuttering and you will see what i mean).
There's also an actual PHYSICAL incompatibility with the 3d vision glasses with some IPS screens... the polarizers on the screen need to match the polarizer in the glasses and not be 90 degrees off (or random in the screen) otherwise you will just not be able to see the screen with the glasses on and active (try using your phone while the glasses are shuttering and you will see what i mean).

#28
Posted 04/14/2019 09:33 PM   
Very good point and something which is almost never talked about!
Very good point and something which is almost never talked about!

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#29
Posted 04/14/2019 09:35 PM   
Anyone have EDID dump of Acer GN276HL (Digital) i need it to confirm something for the new feature
Anyone have EDID dump of Acer GN276HL (Digital) i need it to confirm something for the new feature

#30
Posted 04/15/2019 04:36 AM   
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