Mitsubishi WD-60C10 won't properly display 3d on anything less than 1080p
Hi All,
Here's my setup:
Mitsubishi WD-60C10 DLP TV
Alienware M17x with 460m running beta 285.27
Another 3D vision kit with the emitter for the TV
I just received my Mitsubishi WD-60C10 DLP TV. At first I tried to hook up my 3d ready Alienware M17x laptop but quickly discovered that you would need 3d Play as well as Mitsubishi DLP link glasses. I found out that I could use another 3d Vision Kit with emitter to plug into the Dsub port in the back of the TV.
After all this was hooked up, it works just fine using the 3d Vision glasses. However, 3d only works when the game and desktop settings are 1080p. If I set the game resolution or destop settings to 720p, I see that the glasses aren't in sync even though they are flickering. This gives me the double image checkerboard type images.
On a 460m, most of the games I own run great and have really good framerate on 720p. Only a handful are smoothly playable on 1080p which is why I prefer to play on 720p. The problem is, as I mentioned, the glasses aren't syncing up correctly on resolutions less than 1080p.
Is this how it's supposed to work and anything less than 1080p not supported? I also thought that 3d vision for Mitsubishi DLPs are limited to 720p anyway for games, yet the PC and TV accept 1080p no problem. Anybody seen this issue and if there is a way to make 720p work with what I have (3d vision glasses and emitter), please let me know.
I just received my Mitsubishi WD-60C10 DLP TV. At first I tried to hook up my 3d ready Alienware M17x laptop but quickly discovered that you would need 3d Play as well as Mitsubishi DLP link glasses. I found out that I could use another 3d Vision Kit with emitter to plug into the Dsub port in the back of the TV.
After all this was hooked up, it works just fine using the 3d Vision glasses. However, 3d only works when the game and desktop settings are 1080p. If I set the game resolution or destop settings to 720p, I see that the glasses aren't in sync even though they are flickering. This gives me the double image checkerboard type images.
On a 460m, most of the games I own run great and have really good framerate on 720p. Only a handful are smoothly playable on 1080p which is why I prefer to play on 720p. The problem is, as I mentioned, the glasses aren't syncing up correctly on resolutions less than 1080p.
Is this how it's supposed to work and anything less than 1080p not supported? I also thought that 3d vision for Mitsubishi DLPs are limited to 720p anyway for games, yet the PC and TV accept 1080p no problem. Anybody seen this issue and if there is a way to make 720p work with what I have (3d vision glasses and emitter), please let me know.
i dont have 3dtvplay, but i do have 3d vision and a 65" mitsubishi dlp.
the mitsubishi DLP runs 1080p checkerboard, not 720 3d.
i can confirm that i cannot run a game 720p native. i can run 1080p and 720 in the game, but this leaves huge black bars all around the screen.
i played around for a long time. i ran 720p desktop, tried resizing it to make the timings work, then using the custom resolution for 3d caused a weird blurry checkerboard 3d that did not look right. i even tried the 1080p timing, but with custom resolutions, these worked in 2d and the tv accepted the picture, however in 3d it had the same error you and i are seeing.
wish i could help you more. like i said, sometimes when my computer was on 1080p desktop i could get the game to load up in 720p 3d but it was not full screen, and probally not acceptable. since you have 3dtvplay you probally have even less freedom to play with the drivers.
its really too bad this is the case, you have the best gaming 3d tv out there, but it cant run 720p (or i least i could not figure it out). you could get any other 3d tv out there but then you will have to deal with all the ghosting problems they have.
there has to be a way- as im sure the consuls are not doing 1080p 3d. you need a better hacker. perhaps hack the Eid and run as a generic DLP with 3d vision. i bet that would work.
my guess is, nvidia has never had any reason to make it work, most people are resolution obsessed and would never go to 720p, even though IMO its pretty much the same as checkerboard 1080p in image quality.
i dont have 3dtvplay, but i do have 3d vision and a 65" mitsubishi dlp.
the mitsubishi DLP runs 1080p checkerboard, not 720 3d.
i can confirm that i cannot run a game 720p native. i can run 1080p and 720 in the game, but this leaves huge black bars all around the screen.
i played around for a long time. i ran 720p desktop, tried resizing it to make the timings work, then using the custom resolution for 3d caused a weird blurry checkerboard 3d that did not look right. i even tried the 1080p timing, but with custom resolutions, these worked in 2d and the tv accepted the picture, however in 3d it had the same error you and i are seeing.
wish i could help you more. like i said, sometimes when my computer was on 1080p desktop i could get the game to load up in 720p 3d but it was not full screen, and probally not acceptable. since you have 3dtvplay you probally have even less freedom to play with the drivers.
its really too bad this is the case, you have the best gaming 3d tv out there, but it cant run 720p (or i least i could not figure it out). you could get any other 3d tv out there but then you will have to deal with all the ghosting problems they have.
there has to be a way- as im sure the consuls are not doing 1080p 3d. you need a better hacker. perhaps hack the Eid and run as a generic DLP with 3d vision. i bet that would work.
my guess is, nvidia has never had any reason to make it work, most people are resolution obsessed and would never go to 720p, even though IMO its pretty much the same as checkerboard 1080p in image quality.
System:
Intel I7 920 overclocked to 4ghz
Asus Rampage Extreme II
2 Ge-force 480 in SLI
GTX 295 PhysX Card
12gb ddr3 2000mhz ram
Intel SSD in RAID 0
BR RW
1000w Sony surround sound
NVIDIA 3D Vision
3d displays tested:
Mitsubishi 65" DLP 3d HDTV (good old 1080p checkerboard since 2007!!!)
Panasonic VT25 (nice 2d but I returned it due to cross talk)
Acer H5360 720p on 130" screen (the best 3d)
23" Acer LCD monitor (horrible cross talk- sold it)
I know this may be a bit late. I have a Mitsubishi wd60638 that I use with my 3dvision. (just for the record, to hell with that 3dtv crap) Anyway, I actually have to use the 266.58 drivers in the 1.45 3d vision kit in order to use 3dvision properly on the tv. After 266.58, for some reason they decided to axe 1792x992 60hz from the supported resolution list. At 1792x992 you lose VERY little screen and totally fixes the overscan problem. As far as I know this is one of the only other 1:1 pixel mapped resolutions that work with 3dvision. Until Nvidia wises up though, you would have to use older drivers. My connection goes PC hdmi > Mitsubishi. Hope this helps.
I know this may be a bit late. I have a Mitsubishi wd60638 that I use with my 3dvision. (just for the record, to hell with that 3dtv crap) Anyway, I actually have to use the 266.58 drivers in the 1.45 3d vision kit in order to use 3dvision properly on the tv. After 266.58, for some reason they decided to axe 1792x992 60hz from the supported resolution list. At 1792x992 you lose VERY little screen and totally fixes the overscan problem. As far as I know this is one of the only other 1:1 pixel mapped resolutions that work with 3dvision. Until Nvidia wises up though, you would have to use older drivers. My connection goes PC hdmi > Mitsubishi. Hope this helps.
Here's my setup:
Mitsubishi WD-60C10 DLP TV
Alienware M17x with 460m running beta 285.27
Another 3D vision kit with the emitter for the TV
I just received my Mitsubishi WD-60C10 DLP TV. At first I tried to hook up my 3d ready Alienware M17x laptop but quickly discovered that you would need 3d Play as well as Mitsubishi DLP link glasses. I found out that I could use another 3d Vision Kit with emitter to plug into the Dsub port in the back of the TV.
After all this was hooked up, it works just fine using the 3d Vision glasses. However, 3d only works when the game and desktop settings are 1080p. If I set the game resolution or destop settings to 720p, I see that the glasses aren't in sync even though they are flickering. This gives me the double image checkerboard type images.
On a 460m, most of the games I own run great and have really good framerate on 720p. Only a handful are smoothly playable on 1080p which is why I prefer to play on 720p. The problem is, as I mentioned, the glasses aren't syncing up correctly on resolutions less than 1080p.
Is this how it's supposed to work and anything less than 1080p not supported? I also thought that 3d vision for Mitsubishi DLPs are limited to 720p anyway for games, yet the PC and TV accept 1080p no problem. Anybody seen this issue and if there is a way to make 720p work with what I have (3d vision glasses and emitter), please let me know.
Here's my setup:
Mitsubishi WD-60C10 DLP TV
Alienware M17x with 460m running beta 285.27
Another 3D vision kit with the emitter for the TV
I just received my Mitsubishi WD-60C10 DLP TV. At first I tried to hook up my 3d ready Alienware M17x laptop but quickly discovered that you would need 3d Play as well as Mitsubishi DLP link glasses. I found out that I could use another 3d Vision Kit with emitter to plug into the Dsub port in the back of the TV.
After all this was hooked up, it works just fine using the 3d Vision glasses. However, 3d only works when the game and desktop settings are 1080p. If I set the game resolution or destop settings to 720p, I see that the glasses aren't in sync even though they are flickering. This gives me the double image checkerboard type images.
On a 460m, most of the games I own run great and have really good framerate on 720p. Only a handful are smoothly playable on 1080p which is why I prefer to play on 720p. The problem is, as I mentioned, the glasses aren't syncing up correctly on resolutions less than 1080p.
Is this how it's supposed to work and anything less than 1080p not supported? I also thought that 3d vision for Mitsubishi DLPs are limited to 720p anyway for games, yet the PC and TV accept 1080p no problem. Anybody seen this issue and if there is a way to make 720p work with what I have (3d vision glasses and emitter), please let me know.
the mitsubishi DLP runs 1080p checkerboard, not 720 3d.
i can confirm that i cannot run a game 720p native. i can run 1080p and 720 in the game, but this leaves huge black bars all around the screen.
i played around for a long time. i ran 720p desktop, tried resizing it to make the timings work, then using the custom resolution for 3d caused a weird blurry checkerboard 3d that did not look right. i even tried the 1080p timing, but with custom resolutions, these worked in 2d and the tv accepted the picture, however in 3d it had the same error you and i are seeing.
wish i could help you more. like i said, sometimes when my computer was on 1080p desktop i could get the game to load up in 720p 3d but it was not full screen, and probally not acceptable. since you have 3dtvplay you probally have even less freedom to play with the drivers.
its really too bad this is the case, you have the best gaming 3d tv out there, but it cant run 720p (or i least i could not figure it out). you could get any other 3d tv out there but then you will have to deal with all the ghosting problems they have.
there has to be a way- as im sure the consuls are not doing 1080p 3d. you need a better hacker. perhaps hack the Eid and run as a generic DLP with 3d vision. i bet that would work.
my guess is, nvidia has never had any reason to make it work, most people are resolution obsessed and would never go to 720p, even though IMO its pretty much the same as checkerboard 1080p in image quality.
the mitsubishi DLP runs 1080p checkerboard, not 720 3d.
i can confirm that i cannot run a game 720p native. i can run 1080p and 720 in the game, but this leaves huge black bars all around the screen.
i played around for a long time. i ran 720p desktop, tried resizing it to make the timings work, then using the custom resolution for 3d caused a weird blurry checkerboard 3d that did not look right. i even tried the 1080p timing, but with custom resolutions, these worked in 2d and the tv accepted the picture, however in 3d it had the same error you and i are seeing.
wish i could help you more. like i said, sometimes when my computer was on 1080p desktop i could get the game to load up in 720p 3d but it was not full screen, and probally not acceptable. since you have 3dtvplay you probally have even less freedom to play with the drivers.
its really too bad this is the case, you have the best gaming 3d tv out there, but it cant run 720p (or i least i could not figure it out). you could get any other 3d tv out there but then you will have to deal with all the ghosting problems they have.
there has to be a way- as im sure the consuls are not doing 1080p 3d. you need a better hacker. perhaps hack the Eid and run as a generic DLP with 3d vision. i bet that would work.
my guess is, nvidia has never had any reason to make it work, most people are resolution obsessed and would never go to 720p, even though IMO its pretty much the same as checkerboard 1080p in image quality.
System:
Intel I7 920 overclocked to 4ghz
Asus Rampage Extreme II
2 Ge-force 480 in SLI
GTX 295 PhysX Card
12gb ddr3 2000mhz ram
Intel SSD in RAID 0
BR RW
1000w Sony surround sound
NVIDIA 3D Vision
3d displays tested:
Mitsubishi 65" DLP 3d HDTV (good old 1080p checkerboard since 2007!!!)
Panasonic VT25 (nice 2d but I returned it due to cross talk)
Acer H5360 720p on 130" screen (the best 3d)
23" Acer LCD monitor (horrible cross talk- sold it)
Samsung 65D8000
I thought the other ports didn't scale (say, 2,3 gives you 720p in the middle of the screen, even 3d).
But I thought I was able to do lower res by being in HDMI 1. Do you have the mits 3d adapter?
I don't think you need it for 3D vision, but I am using it. maybe this solves this problem. I'll try at some point and give you an update.
I thought the other ports didn't scale (say, 2,3 gives you 720p in the middle of the screen, even 3d).
But I thought I was able to do lower res by being in HDMI 1. Do you have the mits 3d adapter?
I don't think you need it for 3D vision, but I am using it. maybe this solves this problem. I'll try at some point and give you an update.