Last 3D Vision GeForce Drivers that supported Windows XP
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Please could someone tell me what were the last GeForce Drivers with 3D Vision that supported Windows XP 32Bit. I'm guessing that its somewhere around the 310.90 Update. I have a GeForce GTS450 that I need to roll the drivers back on so that I can use the 3D Vision again. Yes, I have seen this topic "3D Vision settings suddenly missing from nVidia Control Panel" but it doesn't specify exactly which Drivers were the last to support 3D Vision. Any Help would be appreciated. Migrating to Win 7 is not an option.
Please could someone tell me what were the last GeForce Drivers with 3D Vision that supported Windows XP 32Bit.

I'm guessing that its somewhere around the 310.90 Update.

I have a GeForce GTS450 that I need to roll the drivers back on so that I can use the 3D Vision again.

Yes, I have seen this topic "3D Vision settings suddenly missing from nVidia Control Panel" but it doesn't specify exactly which Drivers were the last to support 3D Vision.

Any Help would be appreciated.

Migrating to Win 7 is not an option.

#1
Posted 10/01/2013 04:15 PM   
Dont know mate but I say you just hold on to that XP, clearly every DX 11 games are made for XP so you are a hero and a very smart man. XP is the future as Steam OS will be Win XP only same as PS4 and Xbone. they all use Win XP..MS said they will kill Win 7 and 8 as XP rules them all!!
Dont know mate but I say you just hold on to that XP, clearly every DX 11 games are made for XP so you are a hero and a very smart man.

XP is the future as Steam OS will be Win XP only same as PS4 and Xbone. they all use Win XP..MS said they will kill Win 7 and 8 as XP rules them all!!

#2
Posted 10/01/2013 04:29 PM   
I do feel heroic. Thank You. But could someone please answer my question?
I do feel heroic. Thank You.

But could someone please answer my question?

#3
Posted 10/01/2013 04:33 PM   
I could be wrong but I don't believe there is or ever was a 3D Vision driver for Windows XP, weren't those the legacy stereoscopic drivers that worked with shutter glasses, not 3D Vision glasses? The other thread you mention was in reference to them dropping 3D Vision support in Vista not XP.
I could be wrong but I don't believe there is or ever was a 3D Vision driver for Windows XP, weren't those the legacy stereoscopic drivers that worked with shutter glasses, not 3D Vision glasses? The other thread you mention was in reference to them dropping 3D Vision support in Vista not XP.
#4
Posted 10/01/2013 06:39 PM   
I did some quick research ala the 'goog and came across the "Nvidia GeForce 280.26 WHQL XP 32-bit" Driver package. The blurb states: "This driver package supports GeForce 6, 7, 8, 9, 100, 200, 300, 400, and 500-series desktop GPUs as well as ION desktop GPUs. This driver package also includes the 3D Vision Controller driver." and "nVidia 3D Vision With Release 280 drivers, [u]the 3D Vision Controller driver is now included with all GPU driver installations.[/u] Users are no longer required to install a separate 3D Vision Controller driver or CD driver. This driver includes the 280.10 3D Vision Controller driver. For more information, please view this knowledgebase article for more information. Adds support for viewing 3DVisionLive.com and YouTube 3D with NVIDIA SLI PCs. Please view this knowledgebase article for more information on 3D Vision Window Mode. Adds support for Window mode for 3D Vision Video Player. This requires v1.7.2 or higher of the player..." [b]So[/b], it appears that from this 280 Driver release on until sometime around 310.90, 3D vision was supported for the 400 series of GeForce products running on Win XP environments. The question remains - at what point did Nvidia discontinue support for 3D Vision in Win XP 32 bit? Surely there is a Nvidia customer service representative monitoring this forum who can answer my question?
I did some quick research ala the 'goog and came across the "Nvidia GeForce 280.26 WHQL XP 32-bit" Driver package.

The blurb states:
"This driver package supports GeForce 6, 7, 8, 9, 100, 200, 300, 400, and 500-series desktop GPUs as well as ION desktop GPUs. This driver package also includes the 3D Vision Controller driver."

and

"nVidia 3D Vision
With Release 280 drivers, the 3D Vision Controller driver is now included with all GPU driver installations. Users are no longer required to install a separate 3D Vision Controller driver or CD driver. This driver includes the 280.10 3D Vision Controller driver. For more information, please view this knowledgebase article for more information.
Adds support for viewing 3DVisionLive.com and YouTube 3D with NVIDIA SLI PCs. Please view this knowledgebase article for more information on 3D Vision Window Mode.
Adds support for Window mode for 3D Vision Video Player. This requires v1.7.2 or higher of the player..."

So, it appears that from this 280 Driver release on until sometime around 310.90, 3D vision was supported for the 400 series of GeForce products running on Win XP environments.

The question remains - at what point did Nvidia discontinue support for 3D Vision in Win XP 32 bit?
Surely there is a Nvidia customer service representative monitoring this forum who can answer my question?

#5
Posted 10/01/2013 08:08 PM   
As TsaebehT says 3d-vision was never supported on winxp. (exception: i think you can use winxp+3d-vision if you have a quadro card though which is a kind of ridiculous combination of support...). https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/413888/3d-vision-xp-drivers-non-quadro-3d-vision-xp-drivers-for-non-quadro-cards/ The legacy stereo-3d drivers (pre-3d-vision) supported a number of configurations but at the introduction of 3d-vision everything was turned upside down. Support for older s-3d solutions were trashed in advantage for 3d-vision. So: Winxp: All kind of legacy solutions were functional but no 3d-vision. Vista and further: 3d-vision+3dtv-play(3dtv-play maybe only in win7 and -8) but no legacy solutions.
As TsaebehT says 3d-vision was never supported on winxp. (exception: i think you can use winxp+3d-vision if you have a quadro card though which is a kind of ridiculous combination of support...).
https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/413888/3d-vision-xp-drivers-non-quadro-3d-vision-xp-drivers-for-non-quadro-cards/
The legacy stereo-3d drivers (pre-3d-vision) supported a number of configurations but at the introduction of 3d-vision everything was turned upside down. Support for older s-3d solutions were trashed in advantage for 3d-vision. So:
Winxp: All kind of legacy solutions were functional but no 3d-vision.
Vista and further: 3d-vision+3dtv-play(3dtv-play maybe only in win7 and -8) but no legacy solutions.

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#6
Posted 10/01/2013 09:35 PM   
Hmmm... Why would a Nvidia GeForce 280.26 WHQL [u]XP 32-bit[/u] Driver package say that it supports the 400 series GPU and that the 3D Vision Controller driver is included with [i]all[/i] GPU driver installations?
Hmmm...

Why would a Nvidia GeForce 280.26 WHQL XP 32-bit Driver package say that it supports the 400 series GPU and that the 3D Vision Controller driver is included with all GPU driver installations?

#7
Posted 10/01/2013 10:33 PM   
You might be seeing the Quadro support. 3D Vision [i]was [/i]supported in XP, but only for Quadro, not Geforce. The Windows driver model changed completely from XP to Vista, which is what forced NVidia to abandon the earlier 3D support. When they had to rewrite the driver anyway, it made some sense to target only the new model. For more expensive Quadro/Pro stuff, they didn't have the luxury of abandoning the market, and made it work on XP. Probably could have brought it over to Geforce as well, but as far as I know they never did.
You might be seeing the Quadro support. 3D Vision was supported in XP, but only for Quadro, not Geforce.


The Windows driver model changed completely from XP to Vista, which is what forced NVidia to abandon the earlier 3D support. When they had to rewrite the driver anyway, it made some sense to target only the new model.

For more expensive Quadro/Pro stuff, they didn't have the luxury of abandoning the market, and made it work on XP. Probably could have brought it over to Geforce as well, but as far as I know they never did.

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#8
Posted 10/02/2013 01:38 AM   
Well I experimented, uninstalling my current drivers and then installing the Nvidia GeForce 280.26 package that was specifically for an XP 32 Bit system. Even though the release notes from Nvidia explicitly state that with the "Release 280 drivers, [u]the 3D Vision Controller driver is now included with all GPU driver installations[/u]", this was NOT the case! No 3D Vision Drivers appeared to be installed. What a misleading waste of time. Is the only solution for someone in my predicament the Complete Installation of [i]an entire operating system[/i] (i.e. XP -> 7) to implement the simple functionality of what Nvidia claim to be a major selling point of their GPU's? It has been stated elsewhere in these forums by other individuals that moving from the ever-stable XP is really unnecessary - what is the real reason for holding back on 3D Vision support? I'm sorry bob3b but I don't think "it made sense to target only the new model". What do Nvidia have to say on this? ARE you LISTENING ye GeForce Über Lordz!!!
Well I experimented, uninstalling my current drivers and then installing the Nvidia GeForce 280.26 package that was specifically for an XP 32 Bit system.

Even though the release notes from Nvidia explicitly state that with the "Release 280 drivers, the 3D Vision Controller driver is now included with all GPU driver installations", this was NOT the case!

No 3D Vision Drivers appeared to be installed. What a misleading waste of time.

Is the only solution for someone in my predicament the Complete Installation of an entire operating system (i.e. XP -> 7) to implement the simple functionality of what Nvidia claim to be a major selling point of their GPU's? It has been stated elsewhere in these forums by other individuals that moving from the ever-stable XP is really unnecessary - what is the real reason for holding back on 3D Vision support? I'm sorry bob3b but I don't think "it made sense to target only the new model".

What do Nvidia have to say on this? ARE you LISTENING ye GeForce Über Lordz!!!

#9
Posted 10/02/2013 03:59 PM   
It does say "3D Vision Controller" driver that might just mean the USB drivers for the emitter, that 'now' they're included in the complete driver package and separate ones aren't necessary anymore ... which I believe they were at one point. Technically, I don't think it says anything about actually enabling 3D Vision ... targeting the only the new model would be only supporting Windows 8, which may eventually happen, but you're asking for support for an operating system that's been replaced, not once, not twice but three times already ... when they're barely supporting 3D Vision at all.
It does say "3D Vision Controller" driver that might just mean the USB drivers for the emitter, that 'now' they're included in the complete driver package and separate ones aren't necessary anymore ... which I believe they were at one point. Technically, I don't think it says anything about actually enabling 3D Vision ... targeting the only the new model would be only supporting Windows 8, which may eventually happen, but you're asking for support for an operating system that's been replaced, not once, not twice but three times already ... when they're barely supporting 3D Vision at all.
#10
Posted 10/02/2013 04:23 PM   
poopers I could compromise and do a stinky dual boot... Qu'vatlh!!! [IMG]http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view5/2492716/patrick-smashing-computer-o.gif[/IMG]
poopers

I could compromise and do a stinky dual boot... Qu'vatlh!!!

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#11
Posted 10/02/2013 04:46 PM   
Today one MS dude and Gabe from Valve said that XP is the future and even nvidia/sony said the same. They will all get together and build this great XP-Box and all games will work on it so xbone and PS4 games to so Pc gaming is no more they said, only XP-Box and most games will be 2d sidescrollers in 8 bit as more indie devs will join in. Shigeru Miamoto from Nintendo said he would love to bring all their Mario/Zelda games to it also so hell yeeah you are a Hero and a winner Mr Froggie ;)
Today one MS dude and Gabe from Valve said that XP is the future and even nvidia/sony said the same.
They will all get together and build this great XP-Box and all games will work on it so xbone and PS4 games to so Pc gaming is no more they said, only XP-Box and most games will be 2d sidescrollers in 8 bit as more indie devs will join in.

Shigeru Miamoto from Nintendo said he would love to bring all their Mario/Zelda games to it also so hell yeeah you are a Hero and a winner Mr Froggie ;)

#12
Posted 10/02/2013 04:57 PM   
Just don't dual boot Vista or you'll be in the same boat. :) Just curious, what's so important about XP for you anyway. I still have one XP PC myself, too cheap/broke to upgrade it, but I really like Windows 7 on my other PCs and really haven't run into to any issues with it at all.
Just don't dual boot Vista or you'll be in the same boat. :)

Just curious, what's so important about XP for you anyway. I still have one XP PC myself, too cheap/broke to upgrade it, but I really like Windows 7 on my other PCs and really haven't run into to any issues with it at all.
#13
Posted 10/02/2013 05:20 PM   
Now I know it's not easy being green, but 3D Vision was never supported on XP. I even dug out my 1.0 CD from my first kit, and it specifically required Vista. If you want to play 3D Vision, (and really, it's easily the best upgrade to gaming I've ever made) you should at least dual boot Win7. Whatever you have heard about Win7 came from the same place that said 3D Vision was supported on XP. Internet lies and reality are two different things, and I can promise you that Win7 is better than XP in every aspect. If stability is your prime concern, then you should [i]definitely[/i] switch to Win7. Win7 is more stable than XP ever could be, because of those previously mentioned driver architecture changes. As one small example, the video driver no longer has the ability to blow up the system, ever. BTW, NVidia never puts in much of a presence here.
Now I know it's not easy being green, but 3D Vision was never supported on XP. I even dug out my 1.0 CD from my first kit, and it specifically required Vista.

If you want to play 3D Vision, (and really, it's easily the best upgrade to gaming I've ever made) you should at least dual boot Win7. Whatever you have heard about Win7 came from the same place that said 3D Vision was supported on XP. Internet lies and reality are two different things, and I can promise you that Win7 is better than XP in every aspect.

If stability is your prime concern, then you should definitely switch to Win7. Win7 is more stable than XP ever could be, because of those previously mentioned driver architecture changes. As one small example, the video driver no longer has the ability to blow up the system, ever.

BTW, NVidia never puts in much of a presence here.

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#14
Posted 10/03/2013 05:41 AM   
Thanks Humans. As you can see, even a Froggie has Froggie Principles - one being "If it ain't broke, don't fix it". Personal amphibious protests against the unrelenting unnecessary technological turnover which is frying millions of little froggy's on this planet in the pursuit of a better mass produced 'Cuisses de Grenouille' can be stifling. ribbit...
Thanks Humans.

As you can see, even a Froggie has Froggie Principles - one being "If it ain't broke, don't fix it".

Personal amphibious protests against the unrelenting unnecessary technological turnover which is frying millions of little froggy's on this planet in the pursuit of a better mass produced 'Cuisses de Grenouille' can be stifling.

ribbit...

#15
Posted 10/04/2013 04:46 PM   
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