GTX 295+ vs GTX 460 for 3D Vision in HTPC
Hello,

Was hoping some of you kind folks could weigh in on a decision I'm trying to make. Tired of carting my monster-sized main rig (CM Stacker 830) up & down 2 stories when I want some big screen 3d, so I'm putting together another pc for my theater room and am having a tough time making a decision about the gfx card to use. Here's a quick (well, not really) breakdown of the situation:

The computer will be hooked up to an Acer 5360 pj. I will be using the computer about 50/50 for gaming vs movies, with the gaming mostly being in 3D.

I have a blu-ray drive I'll be installing, and getting the uncompressed soundtracks to play back properly will be important for my movie time.

So, here's my issue...

I currently have an EVGA GTX 295+ collecting dust. When I started this project, I just assumed I'd go ahead and use this card. However, in order to use the 295 card, and be able to bitstream TrueHD/DTS-MA, I'll have to spring for an Asus Xonar HDAV1.3 (~$220) or an Auzen X-Fi HomeTheater HD (~$250). If I understand correctly as well, the 295 will not h/w accelerate blu-ray playback.

So then the GTX 460 drops (~$200), is getting great reviews, but more importantly, is capable of bitstreaming the advanced audio formats & decoding blu-ray video.

Either way, I'm going to be laying out another $200+ to make this happen whether it's on a soundcard or a gfx card, so the money will be spent either way, regardless of whether I keep what I have, or go another direction.

So the big question... will the GTX 460 be able to hang with most of the modern games in 3d, without compromising on settings? And am I better off with my 295 and a soundcard, or just going with the 460? I'm sure the 295 is technically more powerful, but since the Acer PJ is only 720P, I'm wondering how the 460 does at that resolution in 3d?

Any thoughts? I appreciate anyone who took the time to read all of that, and of course for any replies as well. Thanks.
Hello,



Was hoping some of you kind folks could weigh in on a decision I'm trying to make. Tired of carting my monster-sized main rig (CM Stacker 830) up & down 2 stories when I want some big screen 3d, so I'm putting together another pc for my theater room and am having a tough time making a decision about the gfx card to use. Here's a quick (well, not really) breakdown of the situation:



The computer will be hooked up to an Acer 5360 pj. I will be using the computer about 50/50 for gaming vs movies, with the gaming mostly being in 3D.



I have a blu-ray drive I'll be installing, and getting the uncompressed soundtracks to play back properly will be important for my movie time.



So, here's my issue...



I currently have an EVGA GTX 295+ collecting dust. When I started this project, I just assumed I'd go ahead and use this card. However, in order to use the 295 card, and be able to bitstream TrueHD/DTS-MA, I'll have to spring for an Asus Xonar HDAV1.3 (~$220) or an Auzen X-Fi HomeTheater HD (~$250). If I understand correctly as well, the 295 will not h/w accelerate blu-ray playback.



So then the GTX 460 drops (~$200), is getting great reviews, but more importantly, is capable of bitstreaming the advanced audio formats & decoding blu-ray video.



Either way, I'm going to be laying out another $200+ to make this happen whether it's on a soundcard or a gfx card, so the money will be spent either way, regardless of whether I keep what I have, or go another direction.



So the big question... will the GTX 460 be able to hang with most of the modern games in 3d, without compromising on settings? And am I better off with my 295 and a soundcard, or just going with the 460? I'm sure the 295 is technically more powerful, but since the Acer PJ is only 720P, I'm wondering how the 460 does at that resolution in 3d?



Any thoughts? I appreciate anyone who took the time to read all of that, and of course for any replies as well. Thanks.

#1
Posted 08/12/2010 04:11 AM   
Hello,

Was hoping some of you kind folks could weigh in on a decision I'm trying to make. Tired of carting my monster-sized main rig (CM Stacker 830) up & down 2 stories when I want some big screen 3d, so I'm putting together another pc for my theater room and am having a tough time making a decision about the gfx card to use. Here's a quick (well, not really) breakdown of the situation:

The computer will be hooked up to an Acer 5360 pj. I will be using the computer about 50/50 for gaming vs movies, with the gaming mostly being in 3D.

I have a blu-ray drive I'll be installing, and getting the uncompressed soundtracks to play back properly will be important for my movie time.

So, here's my issue...

I currently have an EVGA GTX 295+ collecting dust. When I started this project, I just assumed I'd go ahead and use this card. However, in order to use the 295 card, and be able to bitstream TrueHD/DTS-MA, I'll have to spring for an Asus Xonar HDAV1.3 (~$220) or an Auzen X-Fi HomeTheater HD (~$250). If I understand correctly as well, the 295 will not h/w accelerate blu-ray playback.

So then the GTX 460 drops (~$200), is getting great reviews, but more importantly, is capable of bitstreaming the advanced audio formats & decoding blu-ray video.

Either way, I'm going to be laying out another $200+ to make this happen whether it's on a soundcard or a gfx card, so the money will be spent either way, regardless of whether I keep what I have, or go another direction.

So the big question... will the GTX 460 be able to hang with most of the modern games in 3d, without compromising on settings? And am I better off with my 295 and a soundcard, or just going with the 460? I'm sure the 295 is technically more powerful, but since the Acer PJ is only 720P, I'm wondering how the 460 does at that resolution in 3d?

Any thoughts? I appreciate anyone who took the time to read all of that, and of course for any replies as well. Thanks.
Hello,



Was hoping some of you kind folks could weigh in on a decision I'm trying to make. Tired of carting my monster-sized main rig (CM Stacker 830) up & down 2 stories when I want some big screen 3d, so I'm putting together another pc for my theater room and am having a tough time making a decision about the gfx card to use. Here's a quick (well, not really) breakdown of the situation:



The computer will be hooked up to an Acer 5360 pj. I will be using the computer about 50/50 for gaming vs movies, with the gaming mostly being in 3D.



I have a blu-ray drive I'll be installing, and getting the uncompressed soundtracks to play back properly will be important for my movie time.



So, here's my issue...



I currently have an EVGA GTX 295+ collecting dust. When I started this project, I just assumed I'd go ahead and use this card. However, in order to use the 295 card, and be able to bitstream TrueHD/DTS-MA, I'll have to spring for an Asus Xonar HDAV1.3 (~$220) or an Auzen X-Fi HomeTheater HD (~$250). If I understand correctly as well, the 295 will not h/w accelerate blu-ray playback.



So then the GTX 460 drops (~$200), is getting great reviews, but more importantly, is capable of bitstreaming the advanced audio formats & decoding blu-ray video.



Either way, I'm going to be laying out another $200+ to make this happen whether it's on a soundcard or a gfx card, so the money will be spent either way, regardless of whether I keep what I have, or go another direction.



So the big question... will the GTX 460 be able to hang with most of the modern games in 3d, without compromising on settings? And am I better off with my 295 and a soundcard, or just going with the 460? I'm sure the 295 is technically more powerful, but since the Acer PJ is only 720P, I'm wondering how the 460 does at that resolution in 3d?



Any thoughts? I appreciate anyone who took the time to read all of that, and of course for any replies as well. Thanks.

#2
Posted 08/12/2010 04:11 AM   
here is a pretty extensive review of one of the modified 460 models.
you should be able to find all your answers, including what does it do and what it doesn't do for blue-ray playback

the only game thats currently out and it was struggling with, was Metro (ofc max settings + AA + AF)
but on gtx 295 you wouldnt be able to play it at all, since that card doesnt support dx11

see for your self:
[url="http://www.guru3d.com/article/msi-geforce-gtx-460-cyclone-oc-1024-review/19"]http://www.guru3d.com/article/msi-geforce-...-1024-review/19[/url]

[quote name='Killtacular' post='1102950' date='Aug 12 2010, 06:11 AM']Hello,

Was hoping some of you kind folks could weigh in on a decision I'm trying to make. Tired of carting my monster-sized main rig (CM Stacker 830) up & down 2 stories when I want some big screen 3d, so I'm putting together another pc for my theater room and am having a tough time making a decision about the gfx card to use. Here's a quick (well, not really) breakdown of the situation:

The computer will be hooked up to an Acer 5360 pj. I will be using the computer about 50/50 for gaming vs movies, with the gaming mostly being in 3D.

I have a blu-ray drive I'll be installing, and getting the uncompressed soundtracks to play back properly will be important for my movie time.

So, here's my issue...

I currently have an EVGA GTX 295+ collecting dust. When I started this project, I just assumed I'd go ahead and use this card. However, in order to use the 295 card, and be able to bitstream TrueHD/DTS-MA, I'll have to spring for an Asus Xonar HDAV1.3 (~$220) or an Auzen X-Fi HomeTheater HD (~$250). If I understand correctly as well, the 295 will not h/w accelerate blu-ray playback.

So then the GTX 460 drops (~$200), is getting great reviews, but more importantly, is capable of bitstreaming the advanced audio formats & decoding blu-ray video.

Either way, I'm going to be laying out another $200+ to make this happen whether it's on a soundcard or a gfx card, so the money will be spent either way, regardless of whether I keep what I have, or go another direction.

So the big question... will the GTX 460 be able to hang with most of the modern games in 3d, without compromising on settings? And am I better off with my 295 and a soundcard, or just going with the 460? I'm sure the 295 is technically more powerful, but since the Acer PJ is only 720P, I'm wondering how the 460 does at that resolution in 3d?

Any thoughts? I appreciate anyone who took the time to read all of that, and of course for any replies as well. Thanks.[/quote]
here is a pretty extensive review of one of the modified 460 models.

you should be able to find all your answers, including what does it do and what it doesn't do for blue-ray playback



the only game thats currently out and it was struggling with, was Metro (ofc max settings + AA + AF)

but on gtx 295 you wouldnt be able to play it at all, since that card doesnt support dx11



see for your self:

http://www.guru3d.com/article/msi-geforce-...-1024-review/19



[quote name='Killtacular' post='1102950' date='Aug 12 2010, 06:11 AM']Hello,



Was hoping some of you kind folks could weigh in on a decision I'm trying to make. Tired of carting my monster-sized main rig (CM Stacker 830) up & down 2 stories when I want some big screen 3d, so I'm putting together another pc for my theater room and am having a tough time making a decision about the gfx card to use. Here's a quick (well, not really) breakdown of the situation:



The computer will be hooked up to an Acer 5360 pj. I will be using the computer about 50/50 for gaming vs movies, with the gaming mostly being in 3D.



I have a blu-ray drive I'll be installing, and getting the uncompressed soundtracks to play back properly will be important for my movie time.



So, here's my issue...



I currently have an EVGA GTX 295+ collecting dust. When I started this project, I just assumed I'd go ahead and use this card. However, in order to use the 295 card, and be able to bitstream TrueHD/DTS-MA, I'll have to spring for an Asus Xonar HDAV1.3 (~$220) or an Auzen X-Fi HomeTheater HD (~$250). If I understand correctly as well, the 295 will not h/w accelerate blu-ray playback.



So then the GTX 460 drops (~$200), is getting great reviews, but more importantly, is capable of bitstreaming the advanced audio formats & decoding blu-ray video.



Either way, I'm going to be laying out another $200+ to make this happen whether it's on a soundcard or a gfx card, so the money will be spent either way, regardless of whether I keep what I have, or go another direction.



So the big question... will the GTX 460 be able to hang with most of the modern games in 3d, without compromising on settings? And am I better off with my 295 and a soundcard, or just going with the 460? I'm sure the 295 is technically more powerful, but since the Acer PJ is only 720P, I'm wondering how the 460 does at that resolution in 3d?



Any thoughts? I appreciate anyone who took the time to read all of that, and of course for any replies as well. Thanks.

3D Vision with Acer H274H

#3
Posted 08/12/2010 06:19 AM   
here is a pretty extensive review of one of the modified 460 models.
you should be able to find all your answers, including what does it do and what it doesn't do for blue-ray playback

the only game thats currently out and it was struggling with, was Metro (ofc max settings + AA + AF)
but on gtx 295 you wouldnt be able to play it at all, since that card doesnt support dx11

see for your self:
[url="http://www.guru3d.com/article/msi-geforce-gtx-460-cyclone-oc-1024-review/19"]http://www.guru3d.com/article/msi-geforce-...-1024-review/19[/url]

[quote name='Killtacular' post='1102950' date='Aug 12 2010, 06:11 AM']Hello,

Was hoping some of you kind folks could weigh in on a decision I'm trying to make. Tired of carting my monster-sized main rig (CM Stacker 830) up & down 2 stories when I want some big screen 3d, so I'm putting together another pc for my theater room and am having a tough time making a decision about the gfx card to use. Here's a quick (well, not really) breakdown of the situation:

The computer will be hooked up to an Acer 5360 pj. I will be using the computer about 50/50 for gaming vs movies, with the gaming mostly being in 3D.

I have a blu-ray drive I'll be installing, and getting the uncompressed soundtracks to play back properly will be important for my movie time.

So, here's my issue...

I currently have an EVGA GTX 295+ collecting dust. When I started this project, I just assumed I'd go ahead and use this card. However, in order to use the 295 card, and be able to bitstream TrueHD/DTS-MA, I'll have to spring for an Asus Xonar HDAV1.3 (~$220) or an Auzen X-Fi HomeTheater HD (~$250). If I understand correctly as well, the 295 will not h/w accelerate blu-ray playback.

So then the GTX 460 drops (~$200), is getting great reviews, but more importantly, is capable of bitstreaming the advanced audio formats & decoding blu-ray video.

Either way, I'm going to be laying out another $200+ to make this happen whether it's on a soundcard or a gfx card, so the money will be spent either way, regardless of whether I keep what I have, or go another direction.

So the big question... will the GTX 460 be able to hang with most of the modern games in 3d, without compromising on settings? And am I better off with my 295 and a soundcard, or just going with the 460? I'm sure the 295 is technically more powerful, but since the Acer PJ is only 720P, I'm wondering how the 460 does at that resolution in 3d?

Any thoughts? I appreciate anyone who took the time to read all of that, and of course for any replies as well. Thanks.[/quote]
here is a pretty extensive review of one of the modified 460 models.

you should be able to find all your answers, including what does it do and what it doesn't do for blue-ray playback



the only game thats currently out and it was struggling with, was Metro (ofc max settings + AA + AF)

but on gtx 295 you wouldnt be able to play it at all, since that card doesnt support dx11



see for your self:

http://www.guru3d.com/article/msi-geforce-...-1024-review/19



[quote name='Killtacular' post='1102950' date='Aug 12 2010, 06:11 AM']Hello,



Was hoping some of you kind folks could weigh in on a decision I'm trying to make. Tired of carting my monster-sized main rig (CM Stacker 830) up & down 2 stories when I want some big screen 3d, so I'm putting together another pc for my theater room and am having a tough time making a decision about the gfx card to use. Here's a quick (well, not really) breakdown of the situation:



The computer will be hooked up to an Acer 5360 pj. I will be using the computer about 50/50 for gaming vs movies, with the gaming mostly being in 3D.



I have a blu-ray drive I'll be installing, and getting the uncompressed soundtracks to play back properly will be important for my movie time.



So, here's my issue...



I currently have an EVGA GTX 295+ collecting dust. When I started this project, I just assumed I'd go ahead and use this card. However, in order to use the 295 card, and be able to bitstream TrueHD/DTS-MA, I'll have to spring for an Asus Xonar HDAV1.3 (~$220) or an Auzen X-Fi HomeTheater HD (~$250). If I understand correctly as well, the 295 will not h/w accelerate blu-ray playback.



So then the GTX 460 drops (~$200), is getting great reviews, but more importantly, is capable of bitstreaming the advanced audio formats & decoding blu-ray video.



Either way, I'm going to be laying out another $200+ to make this happen whether it's on a soundcard or a gfx card, so the money will be spent either way, regardless of whether I keep what I have, or go another direction.



So the big question... will the GTX 460 be able to hang with most of the modern games in 3d, without compromising on settings? And am I better off with my 295 and a soundcard, or just going with the 460? I'm sure the 295 is technically more powerful, but since the Acer PJ is only 720P, I'm wondering how the 460 does at that resolution in 3d?



Any thoughts? I appreciate anyone who took the time to read all of that, and of course for any replies as well. Thanks.

3D Vision with Acer H274H

#4
Posted 08/12/2010 06:19 AM   
The GTX 460 would be preferable for a number of reasons, although the GTX 295 is about 25% faster on average:

- DX 11, obviously.
- Better performance when using SGSSAA: Very useful, especially with a resolution of 1280x720 on a big screen (using a 100" one myself), where aliasing is very noticeable.
- Less power consumption: The GTX 295 uses way over 200 W at load, 90 W when playing BluRays and 70 W on idle, whereas the GTX 460 only needs 130 W, 30 W and less than 20 W respectively.
- Less noise: The GTX 295 can get quite loud, even the second revision. The good GTX 460 models (Gigabyte, MSI) are barely audible.

Performance-wise, the GTX 460 should do just fine, 1280x720 isn't that demanding even with 3D Vision. My GTX 285 can handle any game I play and the GTX 460 is actually a little faster.
If you can, I'd try to sell the GTX 295, they still seem to go for about $200 on eBay, so you probably wouldn't need to spend any money at all.
The GTX 460 would be preferable for a number of reasons, although the GTX 295 is about 25% faster on average:



- DX 11, obviously.

- Better performance when using SGSSAA: Very useful, especially with a resolution of 1280x720 on a big screen (using a 100" one myself), where aliasing is very noticeable.

- Less power consumption: The GTX 295 uses way over 200 W at load, 90 W when playing BluRays and 70 W on idle, whereas the GTX 460 only needs 130 W, 30 W and less than 20 W respectively.

- Less noise: The GTX 295 can get quite loud, even the second revision. The good GTX 460 models (Gigabyte, MSI) are barely audible.



Performance-wise, the GTX 460 should do just fine, 1280x720 isn't that demanding even with 3D Vision. My GTX 285 can handle any game I play and the GTX 460 is actually a little faster.

If you can, I'd try to sell the GTX 295, they still seem to go for about $200 on eBay, so you probably wouldn't need to spend any money at all.

CPU: Intel Core i7 920 @ 3.40 GHz

GPU: Geforce GTX 480 @ 850/2000 MHz, Geforce GTX 460 (PhysX/CUDA)

RAM: 6 GB OCZ DDR3-1333 CL7

MOBO: ASUS P6T

PSU: Enermax Pro82+ 625 W

HDD: SuperTalent Ultradrive GX2 128 GB, 2x Seagate Barracuda 1.5 TB

SOUND: Creative X-Fi Elite Pro

DISPLAY: Dell 3007 WFP, Geforce 3D Vision on eMachines V700

INPUT: Logitech G5 + G11

OS: Windows 7 Professional x64

#5
Posted 08/12/2010 07:17 AM   
The GTX 460 would be preferable for a number of reasons, although the GTX 295 is about 25% faster on average:

- DX 11, obviously.
- Better performance when using SGSSAA: Very useful, especially with a resolution of 1280x720 on a big screen (using a 100" one myself), where aliasing is very noticeable.
- Less power consumption: The GTX 295 uses way over 200 W at load, 90 W when playing BluRays and 70 W on idle, whereas the GTX 460 only needs 130 W, 30 W and less than 20 W respectively.
- Less noise: The GTX 295 can get quite loud, even the second revision. The good GTX 460 models (Gigabyte, MSI) are barely audible.

Performance-wise, the GTX 460 should do just fine, 1280x720 isn't that demanding even with 3D Vision. My GTX 285 can handle any game I play and the GTX 460 is actually a little faster.
If you can, I'd try to sell the GTX 295, they still seem to go for about $200 on eBay, so you probably wouldn't need to spend any money at all.
The GTX 460 would be preferable for a number of reasons, although the GTX 295 is about 25% faster on average:



- DX 11, obviously.

- Better performance when using SGSSAA: Very useful, especially with a resolution of 1280x720 on a big screen (using a 100" one myself), where aliasing is very noticeable.

- Less power consumption: The GTX 295 uses way over 200 W at load, 90 W when playing BluRays and 70 W on idle, whereas the GTX 460 only needs 130 W, 30 W and less than 20 W respectively.

- Less noise: The GTX 295 can get quite loud, even the second revision. The good GTX 460 models (Gigabyte, MSI) are barely audible.



Performance-wise, the GTX 460 should do just fine, 1280x720 isn't that demanding even with 3D Vision. My GTX 285 can handle any game I play and the GTX 460 is actually a little faster.

If you can, I'd try to sell the GTX 295, they still seem to go for about $200 on eBay, so you probably wouldn't need to spend any money at all.

CPU: Intel Core i7 920 @ 3.40 GHz

GPU: Geforce GTX 480 @ 850/2000 MHz, Geforce GTX 460 (PhysX/CUDA)

RAM: 6 GB OCZ DDR3-1333 CL7

MOBO: ASUS P6T

PSU: Enermax Pro82+ 625 W

HDD: SuperTalent Ultradrive GX2 128 GB, 2x Seagate Barracuda 1.5 TB

SOUND: Creative X-Fi Elite Pro

DISPLAY: Dell 3007 WFP, Geforce 3D Vision on eMachines V700

INPUT: Logitech G5 + G11

OS: Windows 7 Professional x64

#6
Posted 08/12/2010 07:17 AM   
Some good points. Thanks for the replies. The 460 is sounding pretty good.
Some good points. Thanks for the replies. The 460 is sounding pretty good.

#7
Posted 08/12/2010 11:38 PM   
Some good points. Thanks for the replies. The 460 is sounding pretty good.
Some good points. Thanks for the replies. The 460 is sounding pretty good.

#8
Posted 08/12/2010 11:38 PM   
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