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[quote="zig11727"]Ctrl-Alt-F11[/quote] Ok, thanks! But how do I know if it's on or off? Pressing those keys doesn't seem to do antything for me.
zig11727 said:Ctrl-Alt-F11


Ok, thanks! But how do I know if it's on or off? Pressing those keys doesn't seem to do antything for me.

Posted 04/22/2014 08:27 PM   
[quote="Schmeltzer"][quote="zig11727"]Ctrl-Alt-F11[/quote]Ok, thanks! But how do I know if it's on or off? Pressing those keys doesn't seem to do antything for me.[/quote]Should be obvious when the game launches. It's on by default. Look for the halo/shimmer around anything that is at screen depth. It only works on some games though, not all. Also only last two drivers have it. [i]Current list is as follows: Assassin’s Creed Liberation Sniper Elite: Nazi Zombie Army Sniper Elite: Nazi Zombie Army 2 Strike Suit Zero Watch Dogs Battlefield 4 Assassin’s Creed IV Black Flag Saints Row 4 Bioshock Infinite Assassin’s Creed III Sniper Elite V2 Hitman: Absolution Need For Speed: Most Wanted Far Cry 3 Total War: Shogun 2 Tom Clancy’s Splinter Cell: Blacklist Warframe [/i]
Schmeltzer said:
zig11727 said:Ctrl-Alt-F11
Ok, thanks! But how do I know if it's on or off? Pressing those keys doesn't seem to do antything for me.
Should be obvious when the game launches. It's on by default. Look for the halo/shimmer around anything that is at screen depth.

It only works on some games though, not all. Also only last two drivers have it.

Current list is as follows:

Assassin’s Creed Liberation
Sniper Elite: Nazi Zombie Army
Sniper Elite: Nazi Zombie Army 2
Strike Suit Zero
Watch Dogs
Battlefield 4
Assassin’s Creed IV Black Flag
Saints Row 4
Bioshock Infinite
Assassin’s Creed III
Sniper Elite V2
Hitman: Absolution
Need For Speed: Most Wanted
Far Cry 3
Total War: Shogun 2
Tom Clancy’s Splinter Cell: Blacklist
Warframe

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Posted 04/22/2014 11:30 PM   
[quote="Schmeltzer"][quote="zig11727"]Ctrl-Alt-F11[/quote] Ok, thanks! But how do I know if it's on or off? Pressing those keys doesn't seem to do antything for me.[/quote] Also doesn't "directly" work in 3D Vision Surround which is what I think you are using:) In surround you don't get any game in compatibility mode. However, there is a way to make it work;)
Schmeltzer said:
zig11727 said:Ctrl-Alt-F11


Ok, thanks! But how do I know if it's on or off? Pressing those keys doesn't seem to do antything for me.


Also doesn't "directly" work in 3D Vision Surround which is what I think you are using:) In surround you don't get any game in compatibility mode. However, there is a way to make it work;)

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Posted 04/23/2014 12:08 AM   
@bo3b: thanks! [quote="helifax"][quote="Schmeltzer"][quote="zig11727"]Ctrl-Alt-F11[/quote] Ok, thanks! But how do I know if it's on or off? Pressing those keys doesn't seem to do antything for me.[/quote] Also doesn't "directly" work in 3D Vision Surround which is what I think you are using:) In surround you don't get any game in compatibility mode. However, there is a way to make it work;)[/quote] I ONLY play in surround :P btw: when I press CTRLT-ALT-INSERT (on Bioshock Infinite) I still get the message: Not recommended. (But with Helix Mod: who cares :-))
@bo3b: thanks!

helifax said:
Schmeltzer said:
zig11727 said:Ctrl-Alt-F11


Ok, thanks! But how do I know if it's on or off? Pressing those keys doesn't seem to do antything for me.


Also doesn't "directly" work in 3D Vision Surround which is what I think you are using:) In surround you don't get any game in compatibility mode. However, there is a way to make it work;)



I ONLY play in surround :P

btw: when I press CTRLT-ALT-INSERT (on Bioshock Infinite) I still get the message: Not recommended.

(But with Helix Mod: who cares :-))

Posted 04/23/2014 08:19 AM   
[img]http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/2868/iz3dseparation.jpg[/img] I wonder what would happen to the developers finally added an option dominant eye. Because without it we can not use iron sights shooters. We offer a crutch as a laser sight that is not acceptable in many games. https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/360534/3d-vision/using-dominant-eye-to-replace-laser-sight-horizontal-offset-other-ideas-/1/
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I wonder what would happen to the developers finally added an option dominant eye. Because without it we can not use iron sights shooters. We offer a crutch as a laser sight that is not acceptable in many games.
https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/360534/3d-vision/using-dominant-eye-to-replace-laser-sight-horizontal-offset-other-ideas-/1/

Posted 06/01/2014 10:47 AM   
@SteveK@NVIDIA a AAA game title, even rumored to be the biggest for this year and you still cant get your shit together with 3DVision and this time you can't start blaming the game DEVS not co-operating - Watchdogs has Nvidia plastered all over it, in fact they even did an Nvidia tech demo. You clearly have the wrong people working at your company.
@SteveK@NVIDIA a AAA game title, even rumored to be the biggest for this year and you still cant get your shit together with 3DVision and this time you can't start blaming the game DEVS not co-operating - Watchdogs has Nvidia plastered all over it, in fact they even did an Nvidia tech demo.

You clearly have the wrong people working at your company.

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Posted 06/01/2014 12:37 PM   
[quote="Milamber*"]@SteveK@NVIDIA a AAA game title, even rumored to be the biggest for this year and you still cant get your shit together with 3DVision and this time you can't start blaming the game DEVS not co-operating - Watchdogs has Nvidia plastered all over it, in fact they even did an Nvidia tech demo. You clearly have the wrong people working at your company.[/quote] Indeed.. My sentiments exactly.. When everyone on this forum knows that one or two key people could fix 90% of the games out there & Nvidia would then be at the forefront of 3D and Vr Tech & you simply don't bother... Seriously what is the wages of 2 awesome programmers a year..? When VR is going to be worth Billions.. Or is Facebook just having a laugh with OR. Oh and SteveK if you don't agree with the statement that "You clearly have the wrong people working at your company" then you are clearly ONE of THEM.
Milamber* said:@SteveK@NVIDIA a AAA game title, even rumored to be the biggest for this year and you still cant get your shit together with 3DVision and this time you can't start blaming the game DEVS not co-operating - Watchdogs has Nvidia plastered all over it, in fact they even did an Nvidia tech demo.

You clearly have the wrong people working at your company.


Indeed..

My sentiments exactly..

When everyone on this forum knows that one or two key people could fix 90% of the games out there & Nvidia would then be at the forefront of 3D and Vr Tech & you simply don't bother... Seriously what is the wages of 2 awesome programmers a year..? When VR is going to be worth Billions.. Or is Facebook just having a laugh with OR.

Oh and SteveK if you don't agree with the statement that "You clearly have the wrong people working at your company" then you are clearly ONE of THEM.

Posted 06/01/2014 01:27 PM   
Indeed, ever since I got into 3D Vision, I have had the firm impression that the software team is as lousy, incompetent and uninterested as the hardware team, those who made it all possible, is (or were, no doubt most of them jumped ship by now) great.
Indeed, ever since I got into 3D Vision, I have had the firm impression that the software team is as lousy, incompetent and uninterested as the hardware team, those who made it all possible, is (or were, no doubt most of them jumped ship by now) great.

Posted 06/01/2014 09:23 PM   
Maybe it's the company management? That would be my guess.
Maybe it's the company management? That would be my guess.

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Posted 06/01/2014 09:37 PM   
To me, that all seems a little extreme. These are in fact the people that made 3D Vision, easily the best gaming improvement I've seen. I still laugh out loud at how awesome it looks when setup right. More likely, they've lost interest in 3D because of the slow build of gamers using it. I said slow build, not dead. It's pretty clear that more people join all the time, but it's not mainstream, because the mainstream are busy playing Angry Birds on their phone now. But I agree with the sentiment on Watch Dogs- NVidia was clearly working directly with them, and could have suggested some easy tweaks to shadows to make it work in 3D, and they dropped the ball. Their developer, or game interface group clearly lack any interest in 3D, so I could agree that that specific department is lame.
To me, that all seems a little extreme. These are in fact the people that made 3D Vision, easily the best gaming improvement I've seen. I still laugh out loud at how awesome it looks when setup right.

More likely, they've lost interest in 3D because of the slow build of gamers using it. I said slow build, not dead. It's pretty clear that more people join all the time, but it's not mainstream, because the mainstream are busy playing Angry Birds on their phone now.


But I agree with the sentiment on Watch Dogs- NVidia was clearly working directly with them, and could have suggested some easy tweaks to shadows to make it work in 3D, and they dropped the ball. Their developer, or game interface group clearly lack any interest in 3D, so I could agree that that specific department is lame.

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Posted 06/01/2014 10:56 PM   
As you have noted bo3b, "These are in fact the people that made 3D Vision" yet the fact remains that they don't maintain or support it for mainstream AAA titles. The clown that needs to be slapped with a wet kipper is "Cem Cebenoyan", he is the Director of Engineering, Developer Technology. He’s been with Nvidia for like 14 years and heads up a group of engineers who work with game developers directly and indirectly and was involved with WatchDogs development team. Basically his monkeys build the components of the GameWork effect libraries (TXAA, WaveWorks, FaceWorks, PhysX, etc), they also work with game developers on their implementation.
As you have noted bo3b, "These are in fact the people that made 3D Vision" yet the fact remains that they don't maintain or support it for mainstream AAA titles.

The clown that needs to be slapped with a wet kipper is "Cem Cebenoyan", he is the Director of Engineering, Developer Technology. He’s been with Nvidia for like 14 years and heads up a group of engineers who work with game developers directly and indirectly and was involved with WatchDogs development team. Basically his monkeys build the components of the GameWork effect libraries (TXAA, WaveWorks, FaceWorks, PhysX, etc), they also work with game developers on their implementation.

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Posted 06/02/2014 07:59 AM   
Well, I haven't seen much from SteveK@Nvidia for some time. I think the belligerance scared him off.
Well, I haven't seen much from SteveK@Nvidia for some time. I think the belligerance scared him off.

Posted 06/02/2014 09:02 AM   
I don't know, it's been awhile since I first got into Stereoscopic gaming so the details are a bit fuzzy. I know I owned a pair of wired H3D glasses ... I'm just not sure if I was using them with a Voodoo 5 5500 or a GeForce2, either way I was playing in 3D before '3D Vision' even existed ... and I'm pretty sure Stereoscopic gaming, shutter glasses and all, even existed before 'GeForce'. 3D Vision contains remnants of other stereoscopic drivers, I want to say it's the same as what I was using on my H3D/Voodoo5 setup(which would mean they acquired it from 3dfx) but like I said I'm unsure ... either way '3D Vision' didn't add or change much feature-wise as far as I can tell, there's convergence ... but I'm unsure if that existed when I first got into it, could have been 'locked' away just like it is now ... On the flip side there's a ton of stuff missing, removed and/or broken ... support for 'Legacy' games still listed as being supported in the drivers removed, OpenGL support removed, Generic 3D DLP removed, drivers removed 'breaking' fixes, etc. So the only reasons I can think of that make 3D Vision so great is 'convergence', HelixMod, and the community that keeps trying to fix things ... so one feature NVIDIA may or may not be responsible for [u]vs[/u] a ton of issues they are most definitely responsible for ... Woo! Go one feature ... Lol ... years and years of people asking for things to be fixed, added and/or replaced from 'NVIDIA', in this forum with very little result, if any ... I wouldn't exactly say '3D Vision' is the greatest thing to happen to gaming, Stereoscopic 3D ... without a doubt, but '3D Vision' I'd have to say the opposite ... once it became solely about the money, once they became more worried about securing their software than supporting their customers and their product ... I won't knock SteveK@Nvidia, he's most likely doing the best he can and there is only so much he can do ... he can try to relay the message but in the end it's not up to him, there's no telling who he's dealing with but I'm willing to bet it's not an easy lot to deal with! Seriously, who in their right mind would ignore instead of improve such a great tech!? :)
I don't know, it's been awhile since I first got into Stereoscopic gaming so the details are a bit fuzzy. I know I owned a pair of wired H3D glasses ... I'm just not sure if I was using them with a Voodoo 5 5500 or a GeForce2, either way I was playing in 3D before '3D Vision' even existed ... and I'm pretty sure Stereoscopic gaming, shutter glasses and all, even existed before 'GeForce'.

3D Vision contains remnants of other stereoscopic drivers, I want to say it's the same as what I was using on my H3D/Voodoo5 setup(which would mean they acquired it from 3dfx) but like I said I'm unsure ... either way '3D Vision' didn't add or change much feature-wise as far as I can tell, there's convergence ... but I'm unsure if that existed when I first got into it, could have been 'locked' away just like it is now ...

On the flip side there's a ton of stuff missing, removed and/or broken ... support for 'Legacy' games still listed as being supported in the drivers removed, OpenGL support removed, Generic 3D DLP removed, drivers removed 'breaking' fixes, etc.

So the only reasons I can think of that make 3D Vision so great is 'convergence', HelixMod, and the community that keeps trying to fix things ... so one feature NVIDIA may or may not be responsible for vs a ton of issues they are most definitely responsible for ...

Woo! Go one feature ... Lol ... years and years of people asking for things to be fixed, added and/or replaced from 'NVIDIA', in this forum with very little result, if any ... I wouldn't exactly say '3D Vision' is the greatest thing to happen to gaming, Stereoscopic 3D ... without a doubt, but '3D Vision' I'd have to say the opposite ... once it became solely about the money, once they became more worried about securing their software than supporting their customers and their product ...

I won't knock SteveK@Nvidia, he's most likely doing the best he can and there is only so much he can do ... he can try to relay the message but in the end it's not up to him, there's no telling who he's dealing with but I'm willing to bet it's not an easy lot to deal with! Seriously, who in their right mind would ignore instead of improve such a great tech!? :)
Posted 06/02/2014 11:17 AM   
[quote="BazzaLB"]Well, I haven't seen much from SteveK@Nvidia for some time. I think the belligerance scared him off. [/quote] lol, I'm pretty sure he signed up knowing he'd get the BS you speak of. I imagine the position of 3D Vision within Nvidia is very complicated and political. I'm sure SteveK is on our side.
BazzaLB said:Well, I haven't seen much from SteveK@Nvidia for some time. I think the belligerance scared him off.


lol, I'm pretty sure he signed up knowing he'd get the BS you speak of. I imagine the position of 3D Vision within Nvidia is very complicated and political. I'm sure SteveK is on our side.

Posted 06/02/2014 11:29 AM   
Yeah ^^ the problem isn't SteveK@NVIDIA, it's Cem Cebenoyan and his group of high school students.
Yeah ^^ the problem isn't SteveK@NVIDIA, it's Cem Cebenoyan and his group of high school students.

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Posted 06/02/2014 01:03 PM   
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