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[quote="eqzitara"]Maybe its just me but I have OCs fail long before heat comes an issue so I really care less about cooling since maybe the 480 series. Then again I never went as far to flash rom [/quote] I very rarely change the Vbios on cards. Obtaining the maximum stable overclock requires two things though: - Frequency modification - Voltage modification to sustain that clock. The only "bad" card that I had was the 590, which was already pushed to the maximum and it required a modified vbios to overclock it even further. On the 780Ti and 980Ti you have plenty of space with the stock vbios. One thing to note: Increasing voltage will make the Chip run hotter really fast, so watercooling is definitely advised required if you like running at "normal" 60-70 degrees Celsius;)
eqzitara said:Maybe its just me but I have OCs fail long before heat comes an issue so I really care less about cooling since maybe the 480 series.
Then again I never went as far to flash rom


I very rarely change the Vbios on cards. Obtaining the maximum stable overclock requires two things though:
- Frequency modification
- Voltage modification to sustain that clock.

The only "bad" card that I had was the 590, which was already pushed to the maximum and it required a modified vbios to overclock it even further. On the 780Ti and 980Ti you have plenty of space with the stock vbios. One thing to note: Increasing voltage will make the Chip run hotter really fast, so watercooling is definitely advised required if you like running at "normal" 60-70 degrees Celsius;)

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#61
Posted 05/10/2016 09:44 AM   
What are the recommended max volts for 980ti if we don't think about heat problem ? Why can't I change volts from afterburner ?
What are the recommended max volts for 980ti if we don't think about heat problem ?
Why can't I change volts from afterburner ?

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#62
Posted 05/10/2016 10:34 AM   
[quote="GibsonRed"] I've read it's got a hardware scheduler for async compute which is a bonus but I'm worried about the 256bit memory bus for high resolution gaming. [/quote] Remember it's the bandwidth that's important, not the bus width on it's own. Bandwidth is a function of bus width and memory speed and with the 1080 it basically has the same memory bandwidth as the 980TI. Short of overclocking the RAM we've probably have to wait until HBM2 for that to really change. I predict 1080TI w/HBM2 in Q1 2017 based on the big pascal chip by the way ;-)
GibsonRed said:

I've read it's got a hardware scheduler for async compute which is a bonus but I'm worried about the 256bit memory bus for high resolution gaming.



Remember it's the bandwidth that's important, not the bus width on it's own. Bandwidth is a function of bus width and memory speed and with the 1080 it basically has the same memory bandwidth as the 980TI.
Short of overclocking the RAM we've probably have to wait until HBM2 for that to really change.
I predict 1080TI w/HBM2 in Q1 2017 based on the big pascal chip by the way ;-)

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#63
Posted 05/10/2016 05:39 PM   
Board partners announce GTX 1080 Founders Edition http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/board-partners-announce-gtx-1080-founders-edition.html A few of these have product pages now. [url]http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=5910#kf[/url] https://www.zotac.com/us/product/graphics_card/geforce-gtx-1080 Gigabyte and also been teasing their non reference card. http://videocardz.com/59778/gigabyte-teases-geforce-gtx-1080-xtreme-gaming [img]http://hothardware.com/ContentImages/NewsItem/37355/content/Gigabyte_GTX_1080_Xtreme.jpg[/img]
Just to clarify the Founders edition is the reference card from Nvidia it is NOT a cherry picked GPU either. The only difference is that they will be staying in the retail sector for the duration of the products lifespan with the founders edition unlike in the past. The founders edition appears to really only be for those needing a blower style fan, and schmucks who MUST have the card on launch and dont want to wait for the cheaper and likely better performing AIB solutions. Time will tell whether this business model is good or not, the founders being more expensive makes sense as it would be counter productive for Nvidia to compete with or undercut it's own board partners. Will have to see if the board partners 599$ is MSRP or MAP and how the presence of the founders edition in thr 699 bracket effects the pricing of the custom solutions from partners.
Just to clarify the Founders edition is the reference card from Nvidia it is NOT a cherry picked GPU either. The only difference is that they will be staying in the retail sector for the duration of the products lifespan with the founders edition unlike in the past.

The founders edition appears to really only be for those needing a blower style fan, and schmucks who MUST have the card on launch and dont want to wait for the cheaper and likely better performing AIB solutions. Time will tell whether this business model is good or not, the founders being more expensive makes sense as it would be counter productive for Nvidia to compete with or undercut it's own board partners.

Will have to see if the board partners 599$ is MSRP or MAP and how the presence of the founders edition in thr 699 bracket effects the pricing of the custom solutions from partners.

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#65
Posted 05/10/2016 10:52 PM   
/\ I highly doubt they're going to be cheaper. My expectation is you're not going to get a better product for less money. So I'm predicting if you want a decent cooler with your card, you're looking at 470 - 500 for the 1070 and 720 - 750 for the 1080. Unless AMD can finally land a punch that bloodies Nvidia a little bit, I wouldn't expect to see prices anywhere near those "MSRP" prices for at least 6 months or so. Unless Nvidia is forced to drop the prices on the chips, the manufacturers are going to have no incentive to cut into their profits.
/\

I highly doubt they're going to be cheaper. My expectation is you're not going to get a better product for less money. So I'm predicting if you want a decent cooler with your card, you're looking at 470 - 500 for the 1070 and 720 - 750 for the 1080.

Unless AMD can finally land a punch that bloodies Nvidia a little bit, I wouldn't expect to see prices anywhere near those "MSRP" prices for at least 6 months or so. Unless Nvidia is forced to drop the prices on the chips, the manufacturers are going to have no incentive to cut into their profits.

#66
Posted 05/11/2016 12:32 PM   
Founders edition my balls, it´s the aristocrat version. These kind of deals make me wanna bitchslap Nvidia. Might as well hang a sticker on top " not for poor people "
Founders edition my balls, it´s the aristocrat version. These kind of deals make me wanna bitchslap Nvidia.
Might as well hang a sticker on top " not for poor people "

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#67
Posted 05/11/2016 07:53 PM   
^^ They would not allow the founders edition to end up competing with THEIR own board partners as said above that would be a huge strain on the business relationship Nvidia has with the partners. Maxwell launch matched right around that same MSRP for AIB solutions... It has nothing to do with better product, it is Nvidia milking early adopter suckers, and the few that need blower fans for ITX builds, tight packed SLI configs etc. Why would the business model even be presented as such if the board partners come out charging 100$ over MSRP even after launch supply issues are remedied, that has never happened. UNLESS that is MAP, in which case these two Pascal cards are even more underwhelming and overpriced for the miniscule gains over 980ti at essentially the identical price point if not more expensive...
^^ They would not allow the founders edition to end up competing with THEIR own board partners as said above that would be a huge strain on the business relationship Nvidia has with the partners. Maxwell launch matched right around that same MSRP for AIB solutions...

It has nothing to do with better product, it is Nvidia milking early adopter suckers, and the few that need blower fans for ITX builds, tight packed SLI configs etc.

Why would the business model even be presented as such if the board partners come out charging 100$ over MSRP even after launch supply issues are remedied, that has never happened.

UNLESS that is MAP, in which case these two Pascal cards are even more underwhelming and overpriced for the miniscule gains over 980ti at essentially the identical price point if not more expensive...

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#68
Posted 05/12/2016 04:48 AM   
Miniscule gains over 980ti??? If your basing this on a benchmark.. its 90% likely to be fake. "IF" what nvidia says is true and it outperforms 980 SLI then that would be impressive. A 980 SLI with proper scaling is much better then a single 980 TI. Though SLI is kind of a joke and proper scaling is a rarity. A game like Tomb Raider gives an 90%+ boost. Even still as long as a game has mediocre scaling it should still beat a single TI. The people who say its gonna suck have a 980Ti/Whatever and don't want to upgrade. The people who say its gonna rock are banking on it being awesome cause they want to upgrade. Its all hearsay till NDA is lifted.
Miniscule gains over 980ti???
If your basing this on a benchmark.. its 90% likely to be fake.

"IF" what nvidia says is true and it outperforms 980 SLI then that would be impressive. A 980 SLI with proper scaling is much better then a single 980 TI. Though SLI is kind of a joke and proper scaling is a rarity. A game like Tomb Raider gives an 90%+ boost. Even still as long as a game has mediocre scaling it should still beat a single TI.


The people who say its gonna suck have a 980Ti/Whatever and don't want to upgrade.
The people who say its gonna rock are banking on it being awesome cause they want to upgrade.
Its all hearsay till NDA is lifted.

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#69
Posted 05/12/2016 05:26 AM   
[quote="eqzitara"]Miniscule gains over 980ti??? If your basing this on a benchmark.. its 90% likely to be fake. "IF" what nvidia says is true and it outperforms 980 SLI then that would be impressive. A 980 SLI with proper scaling is much better then a single 980 TI. Though SLI is kind of a joke and proper scaling is a rarity. A game like Tomb Raider gives an 90%+ boost. Even still as long as a game has mediocre scaling it should still beat a single TI. The people who say its gonna suck have a 980Ti/Whatever and don't want to upgrade. The people who say its gonna rock are banking on it being awesome cause they want to upgrade. Its all hearsay till NDA is lifted.[/quote] AMEN !!! "Tiny gain" - less likely. Looking at the trend it will be around 20% better. (At stock clocks). We have to wait and see;)
eqzitara said:Miniscule gains over 980ti???
If your basing this on a benchmark.. its 90% likely to be fake.

"IF" what nvidia says is true and it outperforms 980 SLI then that would be impressive. A 980 SLI with proper scaling is much better then a single 980 TI. Though SLI is kind of a joke and proper scaling is a rarity. A game like Tomb Raider gives an 90%+ boost. Even still as long as a game has mediocre scaling it should still beat a single TI.


The people who say its gonna suck have a 980Ti/Whatever and don't want to upgrade.
The people who say its gonna rock are banking on it being awesome cause they want to upgrade.
Its all hearsay till NDA is lifted.


AMEN !!!

"Tiny gain" - less likely. Looking at the trend it will be around 20% better. (At stock clocks).
We have to wait and see;)

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#70
Posted 05/12/2016 09:16 AM   
gtx1080 will outperform gtx980ti on 35-40% due to simple calculations (theoretically, of course)
gtx1080 will outperform gtx980ti on 35-40% due to simple calculations (theoretically, of course)

#71
Posted 05/12/2016 09:24 AM   
Will a Xeon X5670 without overclocking cause bottleneck on a Pascal videocard? I suppose that specially when playing in 3D the videocard is the most demanding piece of the computer, so I assume it is possible that the Xeon X5670 is enough. Even though my monitor is native 2K, I feel as if I had enough playing at 1080p (scales perfectly to that resolution), unless I get the desired 60 fps playing with 2k resolution.
Will a Xeon X5670 without overclocking cause bottleneck on a Pascal videocard?

I suppose that specially when playing in 3D the videocard is the most demanding piece of the computer, so I assume it is possible that the Xeon X5670 is enough. Even though my monitor is native 2K, I feel as if I had enough playing at 1080p (scales perfectly to that resolution), unless I get the desired 60 fps playing with 2k resolution.

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#72
Posted 05/12/2016 09:34 AM   
[quote="mistersvin"]gtx1080 will outperform gtx980ti on 35-40% due to simple calculations (theoretically, of course)[/quote] Maybe the Ti edition... Based on the datasheets and specs that are available, is approx. 20-25% from a stock 980Ti (as raw numbers). Don't forget also is not only about hardware performance but software aka drivers... How optimum they use the GPU...
mistersvin said:gtx1080 will outperform gtx980ti on 35-40% due to simple calculations (theoretically, of course)


Maybe the Ti edition... Based on the datasheets and specs that are available, is approx. 20-25% from a stock 980Ti (as raw numbers).
Don't forget also is not only about hardware performance but software aka drivers... How optimum they use the GPU...

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#73
Posted 05/12/2016 09:55 AM   
gtx1080 is "70% faster in games" than gtx980, gtx980ti is 25% faster than gtx980 = gtx1080 is 45% faster than gtx980ti and minus approximately 10% as always in practical tests
gtx1080 is "70% faster in games" than gtx980, gtx980ti is 25% faster than gtx980 = gtx1080 is 45% faster than gtx980ti and minus approximately 10% as always in practical tests

#74
Posted 05/12/2016 11:53 AM   
Well it will not be long until we see a lot of hardware review sites doing comparison tests between the two. Then we can get a rough consensus from the reported findings as to how it performs in certain games with certain rig configurations. What is undeniable, is that the performance per watt is "greatly" increased, resulting in less heat. Not to mention more complete dx12 support for those playing the newest releases. Plus 8 GB of GDDR5X "This cutting-edge and blazing fast, High Bandwidth memory ensures performance won’t be bottlenecked by memory-related operations in the most demanding games." http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/articles/geforce-gtx-1080
Well it will not be long until we see a lot of hardware review sites doing comparison tests between the two.

Then we can get a rough consensus from the reported findings as to how it performs in certain games with certain rig configurations.

What is undeniable, is that the performance per watt is "greatly" increased, resulting in less heat.

Not to mention more complete dx12 support for those playing the newest releases.

Plus 8 GB of GDDR5X "This cutting-edge and blazing fast, High Bandwidth memory ensures performance won’t be bottlenecked by memory-related operations in the most demanding games."


http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/articles/geforce-gtx-1080

#75
Posted 05/12/2016 12:06 PM   
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