1080p60 framepacking on some 3DTVs
There's a rumour going around that 2011 Samsung plasmas will accepts full 1080p at 60hz per eye via HDMI framepacking. Seems to good to be true.

Fact or fiction?

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1359207

EDIT: this has been proven to be not a case of 1080p60 framepacking. just another case of company reps giving false answers.
There's a rumour going around that 2011 Samsung plasmas will accepts full 1080p at 60hz per eye via HDMI framepacking. Seems to good to be true.



Fact or fiction?



http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1359207



EDIT: this has been proven to be not a case of 1080p60 framepacking. just another case of company reps giving false answers.

#1
Posted 09/09/2011 06:45 PM   
It could be the new chips from Silicone Image (i think thats the name) that were announced some months ago.
It could be the new chips from Silicone Image (i think thats the name) that were announced some months ago.

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#2
Posted 09/09/2011 06:55 PM   
But the 2011 Samsungs were released in April and likely manufactured long before that.
But the 2011 Samsungs were released in April and likely manufactured long before that.

#3
Posted 09/09/2011 08:20 PM   
That would be pretty awesome if true. Does anyone have a 2011 Samsung to test this out? Also, will 3DTV play allow the user to even select 1080p 60hz? My friend has the panny and he can only select 1080p 23hz for 3D.

Andrew any news?
That would be pretty awesome if true. Does anyone have a 2011 Samsung to test this out? Also, will 3DTV play allow the user to even select 1080p 60hz? My friend has the panny and he can only select 1080p 23hz for 3D.



Andrew any news?

#4
Posted 09/09/2011 08:20 PM   
I have a Samsung 2011 plasma. But, it can't be tested as we have no source device that provides 1080p60 framepacking. 3DTV Play doesn't support the mode, yet.

The alleged news comes from soemone with a 3d camcorder that apparently outputs 1080p60 framepacking. It's just talk at this point. Others need to verify.
I have a Samsung 2011 plasma. But, it can't be tested as we have no source device that provides 1080p60 framepacking. 3DTV Play doesn't support the mode, yet.



The alleged news comes from soemone with a 3d camcorder that apparently outputs 1080p60 framepacking. It's just talk at this point. Others need to verify.

#5
Posted 09/09/2011 08:36 PM   
The Sharp "240hz" LE835 does 1080p60, but the input lag makes it completely unplayable imo.
The Sharp "240hz" LE835 does 1080p60, but the input lag makes it completely unplayable imo.

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#6
Posted 09/09/2011 09:18 PM   
1080p60 framepacking, over HDMI? Do you have a link?
1080p60 framepacking, over HDMI? Do you have a link?

#7
Posted 09/10/2011 01:06 AM   
No link, just eyes. There was no flicker at 1080p in Half-life 2, but unfortunately, totally beyond unplayable imo. Its a pretty easy thing for a "240hz" TV to do i would think, just displaying the screens twice, instead of once.
No link, just eyes. There was no flicker at 1080p in Half-life 2, but unfortunately, totally beyond unplayable imo. Its a pretty easy thing for a "240hz" TV to do i would think, just displaying the screens twice, instead of once.

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#8
Posted 09/10/2011 03:34 AM   
too bad Nvidia doesn't support 1080p60 framepacking. Not sure what your smoking..... /w00twave.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':w00twave:' />
too bad Nvidia doesn't support 1080p60 framepacking. Not sure what your smoking..... /w00twave.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':w00twave:' />

#9
Posted 09/10/2011 04:14 AM   
[quote name='Libertine' date='09 September 2011 - 11:34 PM' timestamp='1315625640' post='1290932']
No link, just eyes. There was no flicker at 1080p in Half-life 2, but unfortunately, totally beyond unplayable imo. Its a pretty easy thing for a "240hz" TV to do i would think, just displaying the screens twice, instead of once.
[/quote]

The issue isn't that the TV's can't display 60hz per eye. It's that they can't accept a 1080p60 framepacked source via HDMI.

Current HDMI chips are too slow.
[quote name='Libertine' date='09 September 2011 - 11:34 PM' timestamp='1315625640' post='1290932']

No link, just eyes. There was no flicker at 1080p in Half-life 2, but unfortunately, totally beyond unplayable imo. Its a pretty easy thing for a "240hz" TV to do i would think, just displaying the screens twice, instead of once.





The issue isn't that the TV's can't display 60hz per eye. It's that they can't accept a 1080p60 framepacked source via HDMI.



Current HDMI chips are too slow.

#10
Posted 09/10/2011 12:40 PM   
This has been proven to be not a case of 1080p60 framepacking. Just another case of company reps giving false answers.


I edited the original post, but it won't let me edit the thread title. Could a mod edit the thread title so not to mislead more people?
This has been proven to be not a case of 1080p60 framepacking. Just another case of company reps giving false answers.





I edited the original post, but it won't let me edit the thread title. Could a mod edit the thread title so not to mislead more people?

#11
Posted 09/11/2011 01:54 PM   
[quote name='conan48' date='09 September 2011 - 08:14 PM' timestamp='1315628071' post='1290940']
too bad Nvidia doesn't support 1080p60 framepacking. Not sure what your smoking..... /w00twave.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':w00twave:' />
[/quote]

It was more than obvious. The TV probably just takes each frame and displays it twice or more. Like it does for Blue ray content. The HX929 probably can do it too, since i saw one do motion interpolation IN 3D. High end TV display up to 8 [or about] additional "frames" between each frame with motion interpolation. The only reason i didn't scream about it in the forums is because it was unusable.
[quote name='conan48' date='09 September 2011 - 08:14 PM' timestamp='1315628071' post='1290940']

too bad Nvidia doesn't support 1080p60 framepacking. Not sure what your smoking..... /w00twave.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':w00twave:' />





It was more than obvious. The TV probably just takes each frame and displays it twice or more. Like it does for Blue ray content. The HX929 probably can do it too, since i saw one do motion interpolation IN 3D. High end TV display up to 8 [or about] additional "frames" between each frame with motion interpolation. The only reason i didn't scream about it in the forums is because it was unusable.

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#12
Posted 09/11/2011 11:10 PM   
as the thread has progressed it appears to be bs from customer support people. its a optional interlaced 1080p 3d format. bummer!
as the thread has progressed it appears to be bs from customer support people. its a optional interlaced 1080p 3d format. bummer!

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3d displays tested:



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#13
Posted 09/12/2011 12:18 AM   
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