How about Virtual Reality Goggles ? VR goggles discussion
Hi !

I am very enthusiastic with 3D gaming and nvidia technology, so one of my dreams as a gamer was having real stereoscopic 3D with goggles or so.

With the time passing I could test some shutter glasses from other companies, with more or less success. But still it was nice at the time.

Now I see that NVidia is also proposing its own solution with stereoscopic 3D shutter glasses, but I do have a few question if you will :

- Older drivers ("ForceWare 78.xx and up) seem to have a broader 3D stereo support (many companies did propose shutter glasses at that time)
but now this support seems to be restrained to the sole nvidia 3D glasses. Has there been a change in nvidia policy in restraining the stereo driver to their product ?

- 3D shutter glasses are nice, but let's face it, it's nothing compared to a real 3D VR helmet with head tracking. I am talking about things like "3D Visor" and the likes,
many of these helmets seem to have good technology but the driver support is only for old ForceWare series. So, is it a problem coming from these manufacturers
not improving their software in order to use latest nvidia's technology ?

Honestly that's too bad, because good 3D VR goggles had hit the market years ago but the games that they support are almost 10 years old.
And I don't even talk about ATI (the 3D stereo support is inexistent).

Regards
F.Moyson
Hi !



I am very enthusiastic with 3D gaming and nvidia technology, so one of my dreams as a gamer was having real stereoscopic 3D with goggles or so.



With the time passing I could test some shutter glasses from other companies, with more or less success. But still it was nice at the time.



Now I see that NVidia is also proposing its own solution with stereoscopic 3D shutter glasses, but I do have a few question if you will :



- Older drivers ("ForceWare 78.xx and up) seem to have a broader 3D stereo support (many companies did propose shutter glasses at that time)

but now this support seems to be restrained to the sole nvidia 3D glasses. Has there been a change in nvidia policy in restraining the stereo driver to their product ?



- 3D shutter glasses are nice, but let's face it, it's nothing compared to a real 3D VR helmet with head tracking. I am talking about things like "3D Visor" and the likes,

many of these helmets seem to have good technology but the driver support is only for old ForceWare series. So, is it a problem coming from these manufacturers

not improving their software in order to use latest nvidia's technology ?



Honestly that's too bad, because good 3D VR goggles had hit the market years ago but the games that they support are almost 10 years old.

And I don't even talk about ATI (the 3D stereo support is inexistent).



Regards

F.Moyson

#1
Posted 12/23/2009 10:59 AM   
[quote name='micmac34' post='969343' date='Dec 23 2009, 01:59 PM']support seems to be restrained to the sole nvidia 3D glasses. Has there been a change in nvidia policy in restraining the stereo driver to their product ?[/quote]

New drivers support nvidia's shutter glasses only, and anyone's anaglyphes (with some registry editing - any color).

[quote]3D shutter glasses are nice, but let's face it, it's nothing compared to a real 3D VR helmet with head tracking. I am talking about things like "3D Visor" and the likes[/quote]

There are 2 main andvantage of shutter glasses: 1) it can be used with big screens (DLP give picture without ghosting), while HMDs have smaller virtual screens (Z800 gives picture about 17" from 0.6 m); 2) bigger resolutions can be used. HMDs is technology of tomorrow.

[quote]is it a problem coming from these manufacturers not improving their software in order to use latest nvidia's technology ?[/quote]

It's nvidia licensing politics. Technically there is nothing outstanding.

[quote]good 3D VR goggles had hit the market years ago but the games that they support are almost 10 years old[/quote]

Not so bad. This should be checked from owners in 3d forums like [url="http://www.mtbs3d.com"]http://www.mtbs3d.com[/url], but the last unofficialy and with hacks supported video card by nvidia stereo drivers is 8800 gtx, plus iZ3D driver supports some HMDs (iZ3D works with ATI cards too).
[quote name='micmac34' post='969343' date='Dec 23 2009, 01:59 PM']support seems to be restrained to the sole nvidia 3D glasses. Has there been a change in nvidia policy in restraining the stereo driver to their product ?



New drivers support nvidia's shutter glasses only, and anyone's anaglyphes (with some registry editing - any color).



3D shutter glasses are nice, but let's face it, it's nothing compared to a real 3D VR helmet with head tracking. I am talking about things like "3D Visor" and the likes




There are 2 main andvantage of shutter glasses: 1) it can be used with big screens (DLP give picture without ghosting), while HMDs have smaller virtual screens (Z800 gives picture about 17" from 0.6 m); 2) bigger resolutions can be used. HMDs is technology of tomorrow.



is it a problem coming from these manufacturers not improving their software in order to use latest nvidia's technology ?




It's nvidia licensing politics. Technically there is nothing outstanding.



good 3D VR goggles had hit the market years ago but the games that they support are almost 10 years old




Not so bad. This should be checked from owners in 3d forums like http://www.mtbs3d.com, but the last unofficialy and with hacks supported video card by nvidia stereo drivers is 8800 gtx, plus iZ3D driver supports some HMDs (iZ3D works with ATI cards too).

#2
Posted 12/23/2009 12:00 PM   
Thank you for your reply! I wish VR was today's technology though /confused.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':confused:' />

Maybe I'll try those shutter glasses again then, together with a 3D projector should be fine :D
Thank you for your reply! I wish VR was today's technology though /confused.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':confused:' />



Maybe I'll try those shutter glasses again then, together with a 3D projector should be fine :D

#3
Posted 01/04/2010 10:38 AM   
The VR920 is a modern headset with modern support. Works on Nvidia or ATI cards on XP/Vista. They have their own driver and also work with the iz3D driver. Its a decent headset but its not without its problems. First off, the virtual screen size is rather small. A 22" 3D screen from up close looks a lot bigger. If you really want an HMD then get the VR920 but I would recommend a 22" 3D monitor over the headset.
The VR920 is a modern headset with modern support. Works on Nvidia or ATI cards on XP/Vista. They have their own driver and also work with the iz3D driver. Its a decent headset but its not without its problems. First off, the virtual screen size is rather small. A 22" 3D screen from up close looks a lot bigger. If you really want an HMD then get the VR920 but I would recommend a 22" 3D monitor over the headset.
#4
Posted 01/05/2010 02:04 AM   
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