Here is my current situation. I have an Acer 22" LCD Monitor, that has a resolution of 1680x1050 and a response time of 5ms. I've had it for 3-4 years, but I feel like it's time to get something better.
Currently, my desktop is hooked up to my TV in my theater room, an LG 47" 3D LED. The reason I have it hooked up to that is because I wanted to try out the 3DTV Play from Nvidia with my PC games. I also have a 5.1 Surround Sound setup in that room.
I really do like 3D, but I must say, I was somewhat disappointed after trying 3DTV Play. With frame packing and a limited resolution of 720p, it didn't look truly stunning. There was also a decent amount of input lag(yes, I renamed the input to PC and had the TV in game mode).
So, I want to get my desktop hooked back up to a PC Monitor and back on a desk, as having to move a desk/table in front of my couch and run all the wires for keyboard/mouse every time I wish to play is somewhat cumbersome.
This got me thinking about getting a better computer monitor. I was looking at two different types, the large 27" 2560x1440 displays from Dell and Apple, and Nvidia 3D Vision(1 or 2) monitor bundles.
I've never seen a 1440p display in person, but I've heard they look spectacular, and add an unbelievable amount of detail to images and games. I question though if my system can run games at that resolution(specs to follow in next paragraph). There's also the fact that these monitors cost $1000...
I like 3D though, and I've heard the 3D Vision setup for the monitors is vastly superior to 3DTV Play. 1080p resolution, extremely good response time, etc. However, running games smoothly at both 1080p and 3D at the same time may put a strain on my system( 2500k @ 4.4Ghz and GTX 680). Also, there is both 3D Vision 1 and 2. I know the benefits of 2(brighter, bigger glasses, etc.), but is it worth the extra cost? And Nvidia doesn't do a good job IMO of telling you which monitors are 3D Vision 1 or 2. Could someone be kind enough to tell me the monitors that are 3D Vision 2, NOT 1. From what I found, this choice would run me $400-$600.
The other option is to stick with my current 1680x1050 monitor and simply use my TV when I want 3D.
So, what do you guys think? Can anyone who has tried the different option I presented weigh in on which they feel offers more?
TLDR: Have a 1680x1050 monitor, looking to upgrade to either a 2560x1440 display or an Nvidia 3D Vision 1/2 display, which is a better choice and why(what do they cost and offer). Or should I just stick with what I have.
Here is my current situation. I have an Acer 22" LCD Monitor, that has a resolution of 1680x1050 and a response time of 5ms. I've had it for 3-4 years, but I feel like it's time to get something better.
Currently, my desktop is hooked up to my TV in my theater room, an LG 47" 3D LED. The reason I have it hooked up to that is because I wanted to try out the 3DTV Play from Nvidia with my PC games. I also have a 5.1 Surround Sound setup in that room.
I really do like 3D, but I must say, I was somewhat disappointed after trying 3DTV Play. With frame packing and a limited resolution of 720p, it didn't look truly stunning. There was also a decent amount of input lag(yes, I renamed the input to PC and had the TV in game mode).
So, I want to get my desktop hooked back up to a PC Monitor and back on a desk, as having to move a desk/table in front of my couch and run all the wires for keyboard/mouse every time I wish to play is somewhat cumbersome.
This got me thinking about getting a better computer monitor. I was looking at two different types, the large 27" 2560x1440 displays from Dell and Apple, and Nvidia 3D Vision(1 or 2) monitor bundles.
I've never seen a 1440p display in person, but I've heard they look spectacular, and add an unbelievable amount of detail to images and games. I question though if my system can run games at that resolution(specs to follow in next paragraph). There's also the fact that these monitors cost $1000...
I like 3D though, and I've heard the 3D Vision setup for the monitors is vastly superior to 3DTV Play. 1080p resolution, extremely good response time, etc. However, running games smoothly at both 1080p and 3D at the same time may put a strain on my system( 2500k @ 4.4Ghz and GTX 680). Also, there is both 3D Vision 1 and 2. I know the benefits of 2(brighter, bigger glasses, etc.), but is it worth the extra cost? And Nvidia doesn't do a good job IMO of telling you which monitors are 3D Vision 1 or 2. Could someone be kind enough to tell me the monitors that are 3D Vision 2, NOT 1. From what I found, this choice would run me $400-$600.
The other option is to stick with my current 1680x1050 monitor and simply use my TV when I want 3D.
So, what do you guys think? Can anyone who has tried the different option I presented weigh in on which they feel offers more?
TLDR: Have a 1680x1050 monitor, looking to upgrade to either a 2560x1440 display or an Nvidia 3D Vision 1/2 display, which is a better choice and why(what do they cost and offer). Or should I just stick with what I have.
[quote name='Trogdor796' date='15 May 2012 - 02:02 AM' timestamp='1337047350' post='1408406']
Here is my current situation. I have an Acer 22" LCD Monitor, that has a resolution of 1680x1050 and a response time of 5ms. I've had it for 3-4 years, but I feel like it's time to get something better.
Currently, my desktop is hooked up to my TV in my theater room, an LG 47" 3D LED. The reason I have it hooked up to that is because I wanted to try out the 3DTV Play from Nvidia with my PC games. I also have a 5.1 Surround Sound setup in that room.
I really do like 3D, but I must say, I was somewhat disappointed after trying 3DTV Play. With frame packing and a limited resolution of 720p, it didn't look truly stunning. There was also a decent amount of input lag(yes, I renamed the input to PC and had the TV in game mode).
So, I want to get my desktop hooked back up to a PC Monitor and back on a desk, as having to move a desk/table in front of my couch and run all the wires for keyboard/mouse every time I wish to play is somewhat cumbersome.
This got me thinking about getting a better computer monitor. I was looking at two different types, the large 27" 2560x1440 displays from Dell and Apple, and Nvidia 3D Vision(1 or 2) monitor bundles.
I've never seen a 1440p display in person, but I've heard they look spectacular, and add an unbelievable amount of detail to images and games. I question though if my system can run games at that resolution(specs to follow in next paragraph). There's also the fact that these monitors cost $1000...
I like 3D though, and I've heard the 3D Vision setup for the monitors is vastly superior to 3DTV Play. 1080p resolution, extremely good response time, etc. However, running games smoothly at both 1080p and 3D at the same time may put a strain on my system( 2500k @ 4.4Ghz and GTX 680). Also, there is both 3D Vision 1 and 2. I know the benefits of 2(brighter, bigger glasses, etc.), but is it worth the extra cost? And Nvidia doesn't do a good job IMO of telling you which monitors are 3D Vision 1 or 2. Could someone be kind enough to tell me the monitors that are 3D Vision 2, NOT 1. From what I found, this choice would run me $400-$600.
The other option is to stick with my current 1680x1050 monitor and simply use my TV when I want 3D.
So, what do you guys think? Can anyone who has tried the different option I presented weigh in on which they feel offers more?
TLDR: Have a 1680x1050 monitor, looking to upgrade to either a 2560x1440 display or an Nvidia 3D Vision 1/2 display, which is a better choice and why(what do they cost and offer). Or should I just stick with what I have.
Thanks for reading.
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Can your video card(s) achieve 1080p 60fps in 3D? If not then you will be stuck with lowering the resolution on the new monitor anyway. Not many cards can achieve 1080p 60fps in 3D.
[quote name='Trogdor796' date='15 May 2012 - 02:02 AM' timestamp='1337047350' post='1408406']
Here is my current situation. I have an Acer 22" LCD Monitor, that has a resolution of 1680x1050 and a response time of 5ms. I've had it for 3-4 years, but I feel like it's time to get something better.
Currently, my desktop is hooked up to my TV in my theater room, an LG 47" 3D LED. The reason I have it hooked up to that is because I wanted to try out the 3DTV Play from Nvidia with my PC games. I also have a 5.1 Surround Sound setup in that room.
I really do like 3D, but I must say, I was somewhat disappointed after trying 3DTV Play. With frame packing and a limited resolution of 720p, it didn't look truly stunning. There was also a decent amount of input lag(yes, I renamed the input to PC and had the TV in game mode).
So, I want to get my desktop hooked back up to a PC Monitor and back on a desk, as having to move a desk/table in front of my couch and run all the wires for keyboard/mouse every time I wish to play is somewhat cumbersome.
This got me thinking about getting a better computer monitor. I was looking at two different types, the large 27" 2560x1440 displays from Dell and Apple, and Nvidia 3D Vision(1 or 2) monitor bundles.
I've never seen a 1440p display in person, but I've heard they look spectacular, and add an unbelievable amount of detail to images and games. I question though if my system can run games at that resolution(specs to follow in next paragraph). There's also the fact that these monitors cost $1000...
I like 3D though, and I've heard the 3D Vision setup for the monitors is vastly superior to 3DTV Play. 1080p resolution, extremely good response time, etc. However, running games smoothly at both 1080p and 3D at the same time may put a strain on my system( 2500k @ 4.4Ghz and GTX 680). Also, there is both 3D Vision 1 and 2. I know the benefits of 2(brighter, bigger glasses, etc.), but is it worth the extra cost? And Nvidia doesn't do a good job IMO of telling you which monitors are 3D Vision 1 or 2. Could someone be kind enough to tell me the monitors that are 3D Vision 2, NOT 1. From what I found, this choice would run me $400-$600.
The other option is to stick with my current 1680x1050 monitor and simply use my TV when I want 3D.
So, what do you guys think? Can anyone who has tried the different option I presented weigh in on which they feel offers more?
TLDR: Have a 1680x1050 monitor, looking to upgrade to either a 2560x1440 display or an Nvidia 3D Vision 1/2 display, which is a better choice and why(what do they cost and offer). Or should I just stick with what I have.
Thanks for reading.
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Can your video card(s) achieve 1080p 60fps in 3D? If not then you will be stuck with lowering the resolution on the new monitor anyway. Not many cards can achieve 1080p 60fps in 3D.
I just pulled the trigger on this a few hours ago for $604 shipped: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236206
There's some other options that are much more affordable if you're on the fence. Notably, the 23" Asus is ~$270 AR and includes glasses. The Acer 27" is also in the low $500s but is not equipped with LightBoost or 3DV2 glasses. I've seen the Acer in person at MicroCenter and was very impressed, and by most accounts the Asus is superior in just about every way.
Personally, I do feel the benefits of a true 120Hz panel and 3D Vision outweigh all other considerations if gaming is your primary focus and reason for buying a new monitor. I've used the AW2310 for over 2 years now and bought it as soon as it came out, so there's no going back to 60Hz or 2D for me. I also recently bought a Samsung D7000 LED 3D HDTV, and while the size is nice, the limitations of HDMI make it a non-optimal solution. I'm looking for something with the best of both and I think the Asus 27" will be it.
As sammaz mentioned however, 1080p in 3D @ 60 FPS is quite demanding, you're really going to need something along the lines of GTX 470/GTX 560Ti SLI performance or better for a great experience. A single GTX 680 will probably perform pretty well in most games, but there's been a few reports of a single 680 performing significantly worst than 2 last-gen cards in SLI (not that surprising) but also performing less than 50% in 3D compared to 2D (surprising). 3D Vision is really optimized for SLI as each GPU is tasked to render each eye frame, and it seems there's significant inefficiencies when the same GPU has to render both views of each frame.
I just pulled the trigger on this a few hours ago for $604 shipped: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236206
There's some other options that are much more affordable if you're on the fence. Notably, the 23" Asus is ~$270 AR and includes glasses. The Acer 27" is also in the low $500s but is not equipped with LightBoost or 3DV2 glasses. I've seen the Acer in person at MicroCenter and was very impressed, and by most accounts the Asus is superior in just about every way.
Personally, I do feel the benefits of a true 120Hz panel and 3D Vision outweigh all other considerations if gaming is your primary focus and reason for buying a new monitor. I've used the AW2310 for over 2 years now and bought it as soon as it came out, so there's no going back to 60Hz or 2D for me. I also recently bought a Samsung D7000 LED 3D HDTV, and while the size is nice, the limitations of HDMI make it a non-optimal solution. I'm looking for something with the best of both and I think the Asus 27" will be it.
As sammaz mentioned however, 1080p in 3D @ 60 FPS is quite demanding, you're really going to need something along the lines of GTX 470/GTX 560Ti SLI performance or better for a great experience. A single GTX 680 will probably perform pretty well in most games, but there's been a few reports of a single 680 performing significantly worst than 2 last-gen cards in SLI (not that surprising) but also performing less than 50% in 3D compared to 2D (surprising). 3D Vision is really optimized for SLI as each GPU is tasked to render each eye frame, and it seems there's significant inefficiencies when the same GPU has to render both views of each frame.
I think I am ruling out the 1440p monitors, as I simply can't spend $1000 right now.
Is the 23" ASUS monitor for $270-$300ish 3D Vision 2, or 3D Vision 1? Is 2 worth the extra money? And do you guys feel 3D Vision is much better than 3DTV Play?
I think I am ruling out the 1440p monitors, as I simply can't spend $1000 right now.
Is the 23" ASUS monitor for $270-$300ish 3D Vision 2, or 3D Vision 1? Is 2 worth the extra money? And do you guys feel 3D Vision is much better than 3DTV Play?
3D Vision is much better than 3DTV Play yes, since you get both 120Hz support in 2D as a by-product but also get full-fidelity, 1080p resolution at 60Hz per eye in 3D.
The Asus 23" is 3DV1, it was one of the 3rd or 4th major 1080p 23-24" 3D displays to hit the market. Overall reviews of it were pretty good, somewhere in the middle of the pack. That bundle originally sold for $450-$500 so its quite a deal especially because you don't need to buy the Nvidia 3D Vision Kit additionally.
3DV1 vs. 3DV2 is mixed overall for the glasses. The 3DV2 glasses are larger with some improvements to design but a big negative most have mentioned is the glossy reflection on the frame.
LightBoost launched with 3DV2 but is actually a feature of the monitors themselves, and the Asus 23" does not include it. The 27" version does have it however, and its marketed as making the 3D image brighter with less ghosting/cross-talk while also increasing ambient light (so you can see your hands, desk etc). From most reports, LightBoost is the best feature of 3DV2. Its possible Asus is clearing out the old 23" to make room for the new version with LightBoost, but expect to pay closer to $500 again for it.
Right now there's only the Asus 27", the two BenQ 24" models, and the Acer 27" (not avail in US yet) with LightBoost technology. They all charge a pretty good premium for it though.
I think the Asus is a good way to get into 3D Vision without spending a ton of money if you're on the fence, but if you're confident you'll make good use of 3D or 2D @120Hz then buying the bigger panel now would probably be a better buy, imo.
3D Vision is much better than 3DTV Play yes, since you get both 120Hz support in 2D as a by-product but also get full-fidelity, 1080p resolution at 60Hz per eye in 3D.
The Asus 23" is 3DV1, it was one of the 3rd or 4th major 1080p 23-24" 3D displays to hit the market. Overall reviews of it were pretty good, somewhere in the middle of the pack. That bundle originally sold for $450-$500 so its quite a deal especially because you don't need to buy the Nvidia 3D Vision Kit additionally.
3DV1 vs. 3DV2 is mixed overall for the glasses. The 3DV2 glasses are larger with some improvements to design but a big negative most have mentioned is the glossy reflection on the frame.
LightBoost launched with 3DV2 but is actually a feature of the monitors themselves, and the Asus 23" does not include it. The 27" version does have it however, and its marketed as making the 3D image brighter with less ghosting/cross-talk while also increasing ambient light (so you can see your hands, desk etc). From most reports, LightBoost is the best feature of 3DV2. Its possible Asus is clearing out the old 23" to make room for the new version with LightBoost, but expect to pay closer to $500 again for it.
Right now there's only the Asus 27", the two BenQ 24" models, and the Acer 27" (not avail in US yet) with LightBoost technology. They all charge a pretty good premium for it though.
I think the Asus is a good way to get into 3D Vision without spending a ton of money if you're on the fence, but if you're confident you'll make good use of 3D or 2D @120Hz then buying the bigger panel now would probably be a better buy, imo.
I would recommend the Asus 27" with lightboost and not to worry about performance limitations so much. Unless you MUST have 60fps at all times, you shouldn't have a problem using the 680. There are some on the forums that do insist on such, but if you are like me and can enjoy an average of 40fps or thereabouts, you will be fine. Heck, there are a couple of 3D games that come to mind that look fantastic in 3D but deliberatley cap the fps at 30! - L.A. Noire and Alice: Madness Returns. You shouldn't have to turn down settings in any game if you're good with 40fps. Once games push it too far in the next year or so you can always buy another 680 and SLI them.
I would recommend the Asus 27" with lightboost and not to worry about performance limitations so much. Unless you MUST have 60fps at all times, you shouldn't have a problem using the 680. There are some on the forums that do insist on such, but if you are like me and can enjoy an average of 40fps or thereabouts, you will be fine. Heck, there are a couple of 3D games that come to mind that look fantastic in 3D but deliberatley cap the fps at 30! - L.A. Noire and Alice: Madness Returns. You shouldn't have to turn down settings in any game if you're good with 40fps. Once games push it too far in the next year or so you can always buy another 680 and SLI them.
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Currently, my desktop is hooked up to my TV in my theater room, an LG 47" 3D LED. The reason I have it hooked up to that is because I wanted to try out the 3DTV Play from Nvidia with my PC games. I also have a 5.1 Surround Sound setup in that room.
I really do like 3D, but I must say, I was somewhat disappointed after trying 3DTV Play. With frame packing and a limited resolution of 720p, it didn't look truly stunning. There was also a decent amount of input lag(yes, I renamed the input to PC and had the TV in game mode).
So, I want to get my desktop hooked back up to a PC Monitor and back on a desk, as having to move a desk/table in front of my couch and run all the wires for keyboard/mouse every time I wish to play is somewhat cumbersome.
This got me thinking about getting a better computer monitor. I was looking at two different types, the large 27" 2560x1440 displays from Dell and Apple, and Nvidia 3D Vision(1 or 2) monitor bundles.
I've never seen a 1440p display in person, but I've heard they look spectacular, and add an unbelievable amount of detail to images and games. I question though if my system can run games at that resolution(specs to follow in next paragraph). There's also the fact that these monitors cost $1000...
I like 3D though, and I've heard the 3D Vision setup for the monitors is vastly superior to 3DTV Play. 1080p resolution, extremely good response time, etc. However, running games smoothly at both 1080p and 3D at the same time may put a strain on my system( 2500k @ 4.4Ghz and GTX 680). Also, there is both 3D Vision 1 and 2. I know the benefits of 2(brighter, bigger glasses, etc.), but is it worth the extra cost? And Nvidia doesn't do a good job IMO of telling you which monitors are 3D Vision 1 or 2. Could someone be kind enough to tell me the monitors that are 3D Vision 2, NOT 1. From what I found, this choice would run me $400-$600.
The other option is to stick with my current 1680x1050 monitor and simply use my TV when I want 3D.
So, what do you guys think? Can anyone who has tried the different option I presented weigh in on which they feel offers more?
TLDR: Have a 1680x1050 monitor, looking to upgrade to either a 2560x1440 display or an Nvidia 3D Vision 1/2 display, which is a better choice and why(what do they cost and offer). Or should I just stick with what I have.
Thanks for reading.
Currently, my desktop is hooked up to my TV in my theater room, an LG 47" 3D LED. The reason I have it hooked up to that is because I wanted to try out the 3DTV Play from Nvidia with my PC games. I also have a 5.1 Surround Sound setup in that room.
I really do like 3D, but I must say, I was somewhat disappointed after trying 3DTV Play. With frame packing and a limited resolution of 720p, it didn't look truly stunning. There was also a decent amount of input lag(yes, I renamed the input to PC and had the TV in game mode).
So, I want to get my desktop hooked back up to a PC Monitor and back on a desk, as having to move a desk/table in front of my couch and run all the wires for keyboard/mouse every time I wish to play is somewhat cumbersome.
This got me thinking about getting a better computer monitor. I was looking at two different types, the large 27" 2560x1440 displays from Dell and Apple, and Nvidia 3D Vision(1 or 2) monitor bundles.
I've never seen a 1440p display in person, but I've heard they look spectacular, and add an unbelievable amount of detail to images and games. I question though if my system can run games at that resolution(specs to follow in next paragraph). There's also the fact that these monitors cost $1000...
I like 3D though, and I've heard the 3D Vision setup for the monitors is vastly superior to 3DTV Play. 1080p resolution, extremely good response time, etc. However, running games smoothly at both 1080p and 3D at the same time may put a strain on my system( 2500k @ 4.4Ghz and GTX 680). Also, there is both 3D Vision 1 and 2. I know the benefits of 2(brighter, bigger glasses, etc.), but is it worth the extra cost? And Nvidia doesn't do a good job IMO of telling you which monitors are 3D Vision 1 or 2. Could someone be kind enough to tell me the monitors that are 3D Vision 2, NOT 1. From what I found, this choice would run me $400-$600.
The other option is to stick with my current 1680x1050 monitor and simply use my TV when I want 3D.
So, what do you guys think? Can anyone who has tried the different option I presented weigh in on which they feel offers more?
TLDR: Have a 1680x1050 monitor, looking to upgrade to either a 2560x1440 display or an Nvidia 3D Vision 1/2 display, which is a better choice and why(what do they cost and offer). Or should I just stick with what I have.
Thanks for reading.
Here is my current situation. I have an Acer 22" LCD Monitor, that has a resolution of 1680x1050 and a response time of 5ms. I've had it for 3-4 years, but I feel like it's time to get something better.
Currently, my desktop is hooked up to my TV in my theater room, an LG 47" 3D LED. The reason I have it hooked up to that is because I wanted to try out the 3DTV Play from Nvidia with my PC games. I also have a 5.1 Surround Sound setup in that room.
I really do like 3D, but I must say, I was somewhat disappointed after trying 3DTV Play. With frame packing and a limited resolution of 720p, it didn't look truly stunning. There was also a decent amount of input lag(yes, I renamed the input to PC and had the TV in game mode).
So, I want to get my desktop hooked back up to a PC Monitor and back on a desk, as having to move a desk/table in front of my couch and run all the wires for keyboard/mouse every time I wish to play is somewhat cumbersome.
This got me thinking about getting a better computer monitor. I was looking at two different types, the large 27" 2560x1440 displays from Dell and Apple, and Nvidia 3D Vision(1 or 2) monitor bundles.
I've never seen a 1440p display in person, but I've heard they look spectacular, and add an unbelievable amount of detail to images and games. I question though if my system can run games at that resolution(specs to follow in next paragraph). There's also the fact that these monitors cost $1000...
I like 3D though, and I've heard the 3D Vision setup for the monitors is vastly superior to 3DTV Play. 1080p resolution, extremely good response time, etc. However, running games smoothly at both 1080p and 3D at the same time may put a strain on my system( 2500k @ 4.4Ghz and GTX 680). Also, there is both 3D Vision 1 and 2. I know the benefits of 2(brighter, bigger glasses, etc.), but is it worth the extra cost? And Nvidia doesn't do a good job IMO of telling you which monitors are 3D Vision 1 or 2. Could someone be kind enough to tell me the monitors that are 3D Vision 2, NOT 1. From what I found, this choice would run me $400-$600.
The other option is to stick with my current 1680x1050 monitor and simply use my TV when I want 3D.
So, what do you guys think? Can anyone who has tried the different option I presented weigh in on which they feel offers more?
TLDR: Have a 1680x1050 monitor, looking to upgrade to either a 2560x1440 display or an Nvidia 3D Vision 1/2 display, which is a better choice and why(what do they cost and offer). Or should I just stick with what I have.
Thanks for reading.
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Can your video card(s) achieve 1080p 60fps in 3D? If not then you will be stuck with lowering the resolution on the new monitor anyway. Not many cards can achieve 1080p 60fps in 3D.
Here is my current situation. I have an Acer 22" LCD Monitor, that has a resolution of 1680x1050 and a response time of 5ms. I've had it for 3-4 years, but I feel like it's time to get something better.
Currently, my desktop is hooked up to my TV in my theater room, an LG 47" 3D LED. The reason I have it hooked up to that is because I wanted to try out the 3DTV Play from Nvidia with my PC games. I also have a 5.1 Surround Sound setup in that room.
I really do like 3D, but I must say, I was somewhat disappointed after trying 3DTV Play. With frame packing and a limited resolution of 720p, it didn't look truly stunning. There was also a decent amount of input lag(yes, I renamed the input to PC and had the TV in game mode).
So, I want to get my desktop hooked back up to a PC Monitor and back on a desk, as having to move a desk/table in front of my couch and run all the wires for keyboard/mouse every time I wish to play is somewhat cumbersome.
This got me thinking about getting a better computer monitor. I was looking at two different types, the large 27" 2560x1440 displays from Dell and Apple, and Nvidia 3D Vision(1 or 2) monitor bundles.
I've never seen a 1440p display in person, but I've heard they look spectacular, and add an unbelievable amount of detail to images and games. I question though if my system can run games at that resolution(specs to follow in next paragraph). There's also the fact that these monitors cost $1000...
I like 3D though, and I've heard the 3D Vision setup for the monitors is vastly superior to 3DTV Play. 1080p resolution, extremely good response time, etc. However, running games smoothly at both 1080p and 3D at the same time may put a strain on my system( 2500k @ 4.4Ghz and GTX 680). Also, there is both 3D Vision 1 and 2. I know the benefits of 2(brighter, bigger glasses, etc.), but is it worth the extra cost? And Nvidia doesn't do a good job IMO of telling you which monitors are 3D Vision 1 or 2. Could someone be kind enough to tell me the monitors that are 3D Vision 2, NOT 1. From what I found, this choice would run me $400-$600.
The other option is to stick with my current 1680x1050 monitor and simply use my TV when I want 3D.
So, what do you guys think? Can anyone who has tried the different option I presented weigh in on which they feel offers more?
TLDR: Have a 1680x1050 monitor, looking to upgrade to either a 2560x1440 display or an Nvidia 3D Vision 1/2 display, which is a better choice and why(what do they cost and offer). Or should I just stick with what I have.
Thanks for reading.
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Can your video card(s) achieve 1080p 60fps in 3D? If not then you will be stuck with lowering the resolution on the new monitor anyway. Not many cards can achieve 1080p 60fps in 3D.
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There's some other options that are much more affordable if you're on the fence. Notably, the 23" Asus is ~$270 AR and includes glasses. The Acer 27" is also in the low $500s but is not equipped with LightBoost or 3DV2 glasses. I've seen the Acer in person at MicroCenter and was very impressed, and by most accounts the Asus is superior in just about every way.
Personally, I do feel the benefits of a true 120Hz panel and 3D Vision outweigh all other considerations if gaming is your primary focus and reason for buying a new monitor. I've used the AW2310 for over 2 years now and bought it as soon as it came out, so there's no going back to 60Hz or 2D for me. I also recently bought a Samsung D7000 LED 3D HDTV, and while the size is nice, the limitations of HDMI make it a non-optimal solution. I'm looking for something with the best of both and I think the Asus 27" will be it.
As sammaz mentioned however, 1080p in 3D @ 60 FPS is quite demanding, you're really going to need something along the lines of GTX 470/GTX 560Ti SLI performance or better for a great experience. A single GTX 680 will probably perform pretty well in most games, but there's been a few reports of a single 680 performing significantly worst than 2 last-gen cards in SLI (not that surprising) but also performing less than 50% in 3D compared to 2D (surprising). 3D Vision is really optimized for SLI as each GPU is tasked to render each eye frame, and it seems there's significant inefficiencies when the same GPU has to render both views of each frame.
There's some other options that are much more affordable if you're on the fence. Notably, the 23" Asus is ~$270 AR and includes glasses. The Acer 27" is also in the low $500s but is not equipped with LightBoost or 3DV2 glasses. I've seen the Acer in person at MicroCenter and was very impressed, and by most accounts the Asus is superior in just about every way.
Personally, I do feel the benefits of a true 120Hz panel and 3D Vision outweigh all other considerations if gaming is your primary focus and reason for buying a new monitor. I've used the AW2310 for over 2 years now and bought it as soon as it came out, so there's no going back to 60Hz or 2D for me. I also recently bought a Samsung D7000 LED 3D HDTV, and while the size is nice, the limitations of HDMI make it a non-optimal solution. I'm looking for something with the best of both and I think the Asus 27" will be it.
As sammaz mentioned however, 1080p in 3D @ 60 FPS is quite demanding, you're really going to need something along the lines of GTX 470/GTX 560Ti SLI performance or better for a great experience. A single GTX 680 will probably perform pretty well in most games, but there's been a few reports of a single 680 performing significantly worst than 2 last-gen cards in SLI (not that surprising) but also performing less than 50% in 3D compared to 2D (surprising). 3D Vision is really optimized for SLI as each GPU is tasked to render each eye frame, and it seems there's significant inefficiencies when the same GPU has to render both views of each frame.
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My 3D Vision Games List Ratings
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I think I am ruling out the 1440p monitors, as I simply can't spend $1000 right now.
Is the 23" ASUS monitor for $270-$300ish 3D Vision 2, or 3D Vision 1? Is 2 worth the extra money? And do you guys feel 3D Vision is much better than 3DTV Play?
I think I am ruling out the 1440p monitors, as I simply can't spend $1000 right now.
Is the 23" ASUS monitor for $270-$300ish 3D Vision 2, or 3D Vision 1? Is 2 worth the extra money? And do you guys feel 3D Vision is much better than 3DTV Play?
The Asus 23" is 3DV1, it was one of the 3rd or 4th major 1080p 23-24" 3D displays to hit the market. Overall reviews of it were pretty good, somewhere in the middle of the pack. That bundle originally sold for $450-$500 so its quite a deal especially because you don't need to buy the Nvidia 3D Vision Kit additionally.
3DV1 vs. 3DV2 is mixed overall for the glasses. The 3DV2 glasses are larger with some improvements to design but a big negative most have mentioned is the glossy reflection on the frame.
LightBoost launched with 3DV2 but is actually a feature of the monitors themselves, and the Asus 23" does not include it. The 27" version does have it however, and its marketed as making the 3D image brighter with less ghosting/cross-talk while also increasing ambient light (so you can see your hands, desk etc). From most reports, LightBoost is the best feature of 3DV2. Its possible Asus is clearing out the old 23" to make room for the new version with LightBoost, but expect to pay closer to $500 again for it.
Right now there's only the Asus 27", the two BenQ 24" models, and the Acer 27" (not avail in US yet) with LightBoost technology. They all charge a pretty good premium for it though.
I think the Asus is a good way to get into 3D Vision without spending a ton of money if you're on the fence, but if you're confident you'll make good use of 3D or 2D @120Hz then buying the bigger panel now would probably be a better buy, imo.
The Asus 23" is 3DV1, it was one of the 3rd or 4th major 1080p 23-24" 3D displays to hit the market. Overall reviews of it were pretty good, somewhere in the middle of the pack. That bundle originally sold for $450-$500 so its quite a deal especially because you don't need to buy the Nvidia 3D Vision Kit additionally.
3DV1 vs. 3DV2 is mixed overall for the glasses. The 3DV2 glasses are larger with some improvements to design but a big negative most have mentioned is the glossy reflection on the frame.
LightBoost launched with 3DV2 but is actually a feature of the monitors themselves, and the Asus 23" does not include it. The 27" version does have it however, and its marketed as making the 3D image brighter with less ghosting/cross-talk while also increasing ambient light (so you can see your hands, desk etc). From most reports, LightBoost is the best feature of 3DV2. Its possible Asus is clearing out the old 23" to make room for the new version with LightBoost, but expect to pay closer to $500 again for it.
Right now there's only the Asus 27", the two BenQ 24" models, and the Acer 27" (not avail in US yet) with LightBoost technology. They all charge a pretty good premium for it though.
I think the Asus is a good way to get into 3D Vision without spending a ton of money if you're on the fence, but if you're confident you'll make good use of 3D or 2D @120Hz then buying the bigger panel now would probably be a better buy, imo.
-=HeliX=- Mod 3DV Game Fixes
My 3D Vision Games List Ratings
Intel Core i7 5930K @4.5GHz | Gigabyte X99 Gaming 5 | Win10 x64 Pro | Corsair H105
Nvidia GeForce Titan X SLI Hybrid | ROG Swift PG278Q 144Hz + 3D Vision/G-Sync | 32GB Adata DDR4 2666
Intel Samsung 950Pro SSD | Samsung EVO 4x1 RAID 0 |
Yamaha VX-677 A/V Receiver | Polk Audio RM6880 7.1 | LG Blu-Ray
Auzen X-Fi HT HD | Logitech G710/G502/G27 | Corsair Air 540 | EVGA P2-1200W
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