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[quote="Pirateguybrush"]Just a heads up, my DIY solution works in 1080p.[/quote] This seems an option, will compare the two and make a decision, obviously your solution would save me alot of £'s
Pirateguybrush said:Just a heads up, my DIY solution works in 1080p.


This seems an option, will compare the two and make a decision, obviously your solution would save me alot of £'s

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Posted 08/09/2014 06:23 PM   
[quote="Shinra358"]Then you can map the keyboard to the controller. If you are playing directly from PC, DS4Windows have all those types of features. Also, the genre you mentioned is not a genre but first sentence still solves that. Haven't tested but I'm gonna go ahead and say that the android apps have already done this as well. Valve controller is ALMOST the equivalent of playing an android game with an on-screen controller. $10 bet it will not feel right. Why do you think they went over all those revisions? Why buy another new controller that costs the same as a game now if you already have a perfect tool to work with already?[/quote] Probably because I don't have a PS4 controller. I'm also am not a fan of how small it is. As to why Valve keeps making revisions, because that's how Valve does everything. They constantly revise everything they make. We almost never see Valve products, however, until the very end. HL3 has had constant revisions, that doesn't mean the revisions weren't for the best and I don't want it. It's just I've never seen it. We see the gory details with the controller. And no offense, but I fail to see how the PS4 controller could possibly be superior for something like Civ 5. Maybe it's because I mostly hate analog sticks for the clunky tool they are (couple genres excluded), but there are numerous genre's where trackpads are just flat out superior, for my sensibilities, to analog sticks. And since you wanted genre's I just name strategy games and the FPS genre. I would never play another FPS game in my life if I was forced to use analog sticks.
Shinra358 said:Then you can map the keyboard to the controller. If you are playing directly from PC, DS4Windows have all those types of features. Also, the genre you mentioned is not a genre but first sentence still solves that. Haven't tested but I'm gonna go ahead and say that the android apps have already done this as well.

Valve controller is ALMOST the equivalent of playing an android game with an on-screen controller. $10 bet it will not feel right. Why do you think they went over all those revisions?

Why buy another new controller that costs the same as a game now if you already have a perfect tool to work with already?


Probably because I don't have a PS4 controller. I'm also am not a fan of how small it is.

As to why Valve keeps making revisions, because that's how Valve does everything. They constantly revise everything they make. We almost never see Valve products, however, until the very end.

HL3 has had constant revisions, that doesn't mean the revisions weren't for the best and I don't want it. It's just I've never seen it. We see the gory details with the controller.

And no offense, but I fail to see how the PS4 controller could possibly be superior for something like Civ 5. Maybe it's because I mostly hate analog sticks for the clunky tool they are (couple genres excluded), but there are numerous genre's where trackpads are just flat out superior, for my sensibilities, to analog sticks. And since you wanted genre's I just name strategy games and the FPS genre. I would never play another FPS game in my life if I was forced to use analog sticks.

#17
Posted 08/09/2014 09:06 PM   
I have the original SHIELD and it's fantastic when I decide to use it. I would rather they have revamped the original than release a tablet version. Part of the appeal of it was the built-in controller.
I have the original SHIELD and it's fantastic when I decide to use it. I would rather they have revamped the original than release a tablet version. Part of the appeal of it was the built-in controller.

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#18
Posted 08/09/2014 09:11 PM   
[quote="Pirateguybrush"]Just a heads up, my DIY solution works in 1080p.[/quote] I have splashtop also.... but it has given me issues and the company hasn't been able to help me completely. the Native shield devices perform better for me anyway.
Pirateguybrush said:Just a heads up, my DIY solution works in 1080p.


I have splashtop also.... but it has given me issues and the company hasn't been able to help me completely.

the Native shield devices perform better for me anyway.

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#19
Posted 08/09/2014 09:14 PM   
FYI, my solution would almost certainly work with a 1080p android phone, so you could try that too. One catch I forgot to mention, is that it doesn't support full screen games, so you have to have then running in windowed mode. Which does mean you might want to adjust the window position to hide the title bar, which is something you can only really do with a mouse.
FYI, my solution would almost certainly work with a 1080p android phone, so you could try that too.

One catch I forgot to mention, is that it doesn't support full screen games, so you have to have then running in windowed mode. Which does mean you might want to adjust the window position to hide the title bar, which is something you can only really do with a mouse.

#20
Posted 08/10/2014 06:41 AM   
I really like the Shield, and I also use it mainly for streaming PC games. Be aware that you don't just need a good router, but you actually need an officially supported one (look on nvidia's website for the list), otherwise the Shield might simply not see the router at all. I had to spend a few hundred in the end on a new router, but my streaming experience is pretty smooth now. Very few hiccups, and only slightly noticeable lag. I've happily played "Sequence" on it, which is a rhythm game that requires precise button pressing. You can see video artifacting sometimes, but it's usually not too bad and not noticeable much unless there's lots of flat colour. Kind of like watching an online video that's been encoded in a relatively high quality. The wifi requires the 5Ghz band, which is much faster than 2.4hz, but has a significantly smaller radius. The signal degrades quickly even if you just take a few steps out of the room. So you want to make sure you've got a good setup with quality ethernet cords and 5Ghz repeaters if necessary. I personally wouldn't go with the tablet version, as to me it destroys one of the selling points of the Shield: an Android portable device with a form-factor that's uncompromisingly designed for gaming. The gamepad is almost as good as the xbox 360 one, and the whole thing feels nice to hold. It also has surprisingly good sound. But the screen is a bit too small though, which is pretty annoying, and can make some games (eg. Assassins' Creed 4) harder to play. I mainly use it to stream PC games. I've found that some 60-70% of games work out of the box, some 10-20% need a third party app like xpadder.exe, while some 10-15% don't work at all, often for mysterious reasons. I've also used it for a few Android games. There are some recentish PC games that also have native Android versions (eg. The Cave, Rochard), plus they've ported all of the classic GTA games onto Android. The Android implementation is good. No fluff, the native Nvidia app is good, and Steam Big Picture mode works well.
I really like the Shield, and I also use it mainly for streaming PC games. Be aware that you don't just need a good router, but you actually need an officially supported one (look on nvidia's website for the list), otherwise the Shield might simply not see the router at all. I had to spend a few hundred in the end on a new router, but my streaming experience is pretty smooth now. Very few hiccups, and only slightly noticeable lag. I've happily played "Sequence" on it, which is a rhythm game that requires precise button pressing.

You can see video artifacting sometimes, but it's usually not too bad and not noticeable much unless there's lots of flat colour. Kind of like watching an online video that's been encoded in a relatively high quality.

The wifi requires the 5Ghz band, which is much faster than 2.4hz, but has a significantly smaller radius. The signal degrades quickly even if you just take a few steps out of the room. So you want to make sure you've got a good setup with quality ethernet cords and 5Ghz repeaters if necessary.

I personally wouldn't go with the tablet version, as to me it destroys one of the selling points of the Shield: an Android portable device with a form-factor that's uncompromisingly designed for gaming. The gamepad is almost as good as the xbox 360 one, and the whole thing feels nice to hold. It also has surprisingly good sound. But the screen is a bit too small though, which is pretty annoying, and can make some games (eg. Assassins' Creed 4) harder to play.

I mainly use it to stream PC games. I've found that some 60-70% of games work out of the box, some 10-20% need a third party app like xpadder.exe, while some 10-15% don't work at all, often for mysterious reasons.

I've also used it for a few Android games. There are some recentish PC games that also have native Android versions (eg. The Cave, Rochard), plus they've ported all of the classic GTA games onto Android.

The Android implementation is good. No fluff, the native Nvidia app is good, and Steam Big Picture mode works well.

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#21
Posted 08/10/2014 10:58 AM   
[quote="Pirateguybrush"]FYI, my solution would almost certainly work with a 1080p android phone, so you could try that too. One catch I forgot to mention, is that it doesn't support full screen games, so you have to have then running in windowed mode. Which does mean you might want to adjust the window position to hide the title bar, which is something you can only really do with a mouse.[/quote] yes is the issue that I have. In fact according to Splashtop once you have the Optimized for GeForce.. it should run with fullscreen games. I did contact them once and they just had me uninstall and re install their server software on my main rig. I get it to work sometimes but other times I don't. In fact I actually use the Splashtop GamePad THD which was actually specific for the ASUS Transfomer tablets. I notice I can also install it on my Nvidia Shield Tablet without doing any tricks.
Pirateguybrush said:FYI, my solution would almost certainly work with a 1080p android phone, so you could try that too.

One catch I forgot to mention, is that it doesn't support full screen games, so you have to have then running in windowed mode. Which does mean you might want to adjust the window position to hide the title bar, which is something you can only really do with a mouse.


yes is the issue that I have. In fact according to Splashtop once you have the Optimized for GeForce.. it should run with fullscreen games. I did contact them once and they just had me uninstall and re install their server software on my main rig. I get it to work sometimes but other times I don't. In fact I actually use the Splashtop GamePad THD which was actually specific for the ASUS Transfomer tablets. I notice I can also install it on my Nvidia Shield Tablet without doing any tricks.

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#22
Posted 08/10/2014 03:18 PM   
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