Hi,
Got the 3D Vision kit 3 days ago and to tell the truth, I'm quite disappointed.
As always, in the beginning everything looks fine until you try to get it to work.
The first obstacle I encountered is finding a screen. If I understood correctly, all I need is a CRT or LCD/LED that can do 120Hz and I'm set to go. I saw the list of supported 3D Ready displays but also found allot of 120Hz displays that are not on the list. I can't be sure if they will work or not.
I have an Eizo CG243W which, according to its spec, can do 120Hz. When trying to enable the 3D driver I get 'You screen isn't supported'. When I clicks 'My display is 3D ready but not detected" the web browser opens with "www.nvidia.com" (???)
I'm sure that Nvidia planned on using the 3D technology for games but didn't put any thought that maybe it can be used to other applications except games & movies. That is why 3D Vision is under GForce even though I'm trying to get it working with a Quadro 600 (States in the spec that there is no problem using 3D Vision with it). Is this the case?
What am I missing here?
1. Can I see 3D images on an Eizo ColorEdge CG243W with 3D Vision?
2. Is there an updated list of 120Hz screens (LCD/LED)that can work with 3D Vision but not 3D Ready?
3. Is DVI a must? Can 3D Vision with with DisplayPort (DP)?
4. Is 3D Vision intended to use only with 3D Ready screens?
4. Can I try to force the 3D system to work and hope that the monitor will handle it?
My configuration:
Eizo ColorEdge CG243W (updated to latest firmware) connected with DisplayPort (by a DVI is also an option)
Quadro 600, Latest drivers (10/1/2013)
i7, 16GB, Windows 7 64bit.
I would appreciate any help on the subject.
Gilad.
Got the 3D Vision kit 3 days ago and to tell the truth, I'm quite disappointed.
As always, in the beginning everything looks fine until you try to get it to work.
The first obstacle I encountered is finding a screen. If I understood correctly, all I need is a CRT or LCD/LED that can do 120Hz and I'm set to go. I saw the list of supported 3D Ready displays but also found allot of 120Hz displays that are not on the list. I can't be sure if they will work or not.
I have an Eizo CG243W which, according to its spec, can do 120Hz. When trying to enable the 3D driver I get 'You screen isn't supported'. When I clicks 'My display is 3D ready but not detected" the web browser opens with "www.nvidia.com" (???)
I'm sure that Nvidia planned on using the 3D technology for games but didn't put any thought that maybe it can be used to other applications except games & movies. That is why 3D Vision is under GForce even though I'm trying to get it working with a Quadro 600 (States in the spec that there is no problem using 3D Vision with it). Is this the case?
What am I missing here?
1. Can I see 3D images on an Eizo ColorEdge CG243W with 3D Vision?
2. Is there an updated list of 120Hz screens (LCD/LED)that can work with 3D Vision but not 3D Ready?
3. Is DVI a must? Can 3D Vision with with DisplayPort (DP)?
4. Is 3D Vision intended to use only with 3D Ready screens?
4. Can I try to force the 3D system to work and hope that the monitor will handle it?
My configuration:
Eizo ColorEdge CG243W (updated to latest firmware) connected with DisplayPort (by a DVI is also an option)
Quadro 600, Latest drivers (10/1/2013)
i7, 16GB, Windows 7 64bit.
First off, that monitor only accept a 60Hz input, not a 120Hz input.
Second off, it is not a stereographic monitor.
Nvidia 3DTV Play, Nvidia 3D Vision and Optomized for Geforce are Stereographic gaming solutions!!!!
"other applicatiuons" as you say are generally supported by 3D Vision Pro.
AsusVG27H is my recommendation for the monitor. Lightboost really makes the screen brighter and you can see the colours of the application or game better.
if you're on a budget find a smaller monitor with lightboost, you wont regret it.
3: As far as I understand Dual DVI is the preffered choice.
4: 3D ready is, afaik, a bullshit term which means that the TV can display 3d in somekind. A little like HD ready of old. Look for Monitors and TV's with a REAL refresh rate of 120hz. Anything which says 200 hz etc is basically lying, and is not inputting at that. Also for 3d, if you are working with moving graphics, make sure g2g response is 2ms (reduce crosstalk)
5: If it's a 60hz monitor, even if you can force the drivers to output a signal to it, it's going to give you a headache real bad, and is probably not good for your health.
30fps per eye has to be a huge epilepsy risk, at the very least will cause huge eye strain.
So basically your only problem is your screen, which if I am right and is only 60hz, is NOT designed for 3D at all, and don't waste your time trying to get it to work. with a genuine 120 screen you should have no problems as long as it has dual DVI input.
AsusVG27H is my recommendation for the monitor. Lightboost really makes the screen brighter and you can see the colours of the application or game better.
if you're on a budget find a smaller monitor with lightboost, you wont regret it.
3: As far as I understand Dual DVI is the preffered choice.
4: 3D ready is, afaik, a bullshit term which means that the TV can display 3d in somekind. A little like HD ready of old. Look for Monitors and TV's with a REAL refresh rate of 120hz. Anything which says 200 hz etc is basically lying, and is not inputting at that. Also for 3d, if you are working with moving graphics, make sure g2g response is 2ms (reduce crosstalk)
5: If it's a 60hz monitor, even if you can force the drivers to output a signal to it, it's going to give you a headache real bad, and is probably not good for your health.
30fps per eye has to be a huge epilepsy risk, at the very least will cause huge eye strain.
So basically your only problem is your screen, which if I am right and is only 60hz, is NOT designed for 3D at all, and don't waste your time trying to get it to work. with a genuine 120 screen you should have no problems as long as it has dual DVI input.
NVidia tried to simply this whole problem by making 3D Vision Ready certification. I respect them for trying to at least make a certain set of equipment work up to their spec.
You should use something that is NVidia Certified. It's a little annoying, but otherwise you have to solve quite a number of very annoying problems to get things to work. I got it all to work with 100Hz CRT monitors, but it was quite a task.
Also, more to the point, I think that Stereoscopic 3D has gotten a bit of a bad rap in the last year as being a 'gimmick', 'cause eyestrain', blah, blah, blah. It is my firm belief that people who 'hate' stereoscopic have not seen an example where it's well done.
NVidia 3D Vision is one of the few examples that is well done. If you use their certified equipment, in their expected setup- then your experience will be pretty compelling.
If you try to fudge some older equipment or non-certified stuff, you are likely to be disappointed.
I'm not a giant fan of these certification programs, and initially it bugged me that I couldn't buy the monitor I wanted and give it a try. But now I understand that they are trying to control the entire experience, and keep a certain quality level.
NVidia tried to simply this whole problem by making 3D Vision Ready certification. I respect them for trying to at least make a certain set of equipment work up to their spec.
You should use something that is NVidia Certified. It's a little annoying, but otherwise you have to solve quite a number of very annoying problems to get things to work. I got it all to work with 100Hz CRT monitors, but it was quite a task.
Also, more to the point, I think that Stereoscopic 3D has gotten a bit of a bad rap in the last year as being a 'gimmick', 'cause eyestrain', blah, blah, blah. It is my firm belief that people who 'hate' stereoscopic have not seen an example where it's well done.
NVidia 3D Vision is one of the few examples that is well done. If you use their certified equipment, in their expected setup- then your experience will be pretty compelling.
If you try to fudge some older equipment or non-certified stuff, you are likely to be disappointed.
I'm not a giant fan of these certification programs, and initially it bugged me that I couldn't buy the monitor I wanted and give it a try. But now I understand that they are trying to control the entire experience, and keep a certain quality level.
Acer H5360 (1280x720@120Hz) - ASUS VG248QE with GSync mod - 3D Vision 1&2 - Driver 372.54
GTX 970 - i5-4670K@4.2GHz - 12GB RAM - Win7x64+evilKB2670838 - 4 Disk X25 RAID
SAGER NP9870-S - GTX 980 - i7-6700K - Win10 Pro 1607 Latest 3Dmigoto Release Bo3b's School for ShaderHackers
Got the 3D Vision kit 3 days ago and to tell the truth, I'm quite disappointed.
As always, in the beginning everything looks fine until you try to get it to work.
The first obstacle I encountered is finding a screen. If I understood correctly, all I need is a CRT or LCD/LED that can do 120Hz and I'm set to go. I saw the list of supported 3D Ready displays but also found allot of 120Hz displays that are not on the list. I can't be sure if they will work or not.
I have an Eizo CG243W which, according to its spec, can do 120Hz. When trying to enable the 3D driver I get 'You screen isn't supported'. When I clicks 'My display is 3D ready but not detected" the web browser opens with "www.nvidia.com" (???)
I'm sure that Nvidia planned on using the 3D technology for games but didn't put any thought that maybe it can be used to other applications except games & movies. That is why 3D Vision is under GForce even though I'm trying to get it working with a Quadro 600 (States in the spec that there is no problem using 3D Vision with it). Is this the case?
What am I missing here?
1. Can I see 3D images on an Eizo ColorEdge CG243W with 3D Vision?
2. Is there an updated list of 120Hz screens (LCD/LED)that can work with 3D Vision but not 3D Ready?
3. Is DVI a must? Can 3D Vision with with DisplayPort (DP)?
4. Is 3D Vision intended to use only with 3D Ready screens?
4. Can I try to force the 3D system to work and hope that the monitor will handle it?
My configuration:
Eizo ColorEdge CG243W (updated to latest firmware) connected with DisplayPort (by a DVI is also an option)
Quadro 600, Latest drivers (10/1/2013)
i7, 16GB, Windows 7 64bit.
I would appreciate any help on the subject.
Gilad.
Second off, it is not a stereographic monitor.
Nvidia 3DTV Play, Nvidia 3D Vision and Optomized for Geforce are Stereographic gaming solutions!!!!
"other applicatiuons" as you say are generally supported by 3D Vision Pro.
if you're on a budget find a smaller monitor with lightboost, you wont regret it.
3: As far as I understand Dual DVI is the preffered choice.
4: 3D ready is, afaik, a bullshit term which means that the TV can display 3d in somekind. A little like HD ready of old. Look for Monitors and TV's with a REAL refresh rate of 120hz. Anything which says 200 hz etc is basically lying, and is not inputting at that. Also for 3d, if you are working with moving graphics, make sure g2g response is 2ms (reduce crosstalk)
5: If it's a 60hz monitor, even if you can force the drivers to output a signal to it, it's going to give you a headache real bad, and is probably not good for your health.
30fps per eye has to be a huge epilepsy risk, at the very least will cause huge eye strain.
So basically your only problem is your screen, which if I am right and is only 60hz, is NOT designed for 3D at all, and don't waste your time trying to get it to work. with a genuine 120 screen you should have no problems as long as it has dual DVI input.
OS: Win 8 CPU: I7 4770k 3.5GZ GPU: GTX 780ti
You should use something that is NVidia Certified. It's a little annoying, but otherwise you have to solve quite a number of very annoying problems to get things to work. I got it all to work with 100Hz CRT monitors, but it was quite a task.
Also, more to the point, I think that Stereoscopic 3D has gotten a bit of a bad rap in the last year as being a 'gimmick', 'cause eyestrain', blah, blah, blah. It is my firm belief that people who 'hate' stereoscopic have not seen an example where it's well done.
NVidia 3D Vision is one of the few examples that is well done. If you use their certified equipment, in their expected setup- then your experience will be pretty compelling.
If you try to fudge some older equipment or non-certified stuff, you are likely to be disappointed.
I'm not a giant fan of these certification programs, and initially it bugged me that I couldn't buy the monitor I wanted and give it a try. But now I understand that they are trying to control the entire experience, and keep a certain quality level.
Acer H5360 (1280x720@120Hz) - ASUS VG248QE with GSync mod - 3D Vision 1&2 - Driver 372.54
GTX 970 - i5-4670K@4.2GHz - 12GB RAM - Win7x64+evilKB2670838 - 4 Disk X25 RAID
SAGER NP9870-S - GTX 980 - i7-6700K - Win10 Pro 1607
Latest 3Dmigoto Release
Bo3b's School for ShaderHackers