How do I connect my shutterglasses? This may be easy..
I've bought a pair of shutterglasses but they dont fit on my nvidia card.

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Is there a way to connect the glasses to my card?

Thanks.
I've bought a pair of shutterglasses but they dont fit on my nvidia card.



Here is a picture of the glasses, And here is a picture of my 7600GS



Is there a way to connect the glasses to my card?



Thanks.

#1
Posted 06/18/2007 02:28 PM   
Yes there is.
It look like You missing the "dongle/box" where You connect Your glasses and the monitor. The "dongle/box" is then plugged into Your graphics card. Here's a picture of what the "dongle/box" looks like if You have the eDimensional glasses:
[url="http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/774/eddonglebm9.jpg"]http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/774/eddonglebm9.jpg[/url]
Sometimes You can buy (spare) glasses without the dongle but You need 1 dongle.
Yes there is.

It look like You missing the "dongle/box" where You connect Your glasses and the monitor. The "dongle/box" is then plugged into Your graphics card. Here's a picture of what the "dongle/box" looks like if You have the eDimensional glasses:

http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/774/eddonglebm9.jpg

Sometimes You can buy (spare) glasses without the dongle but You need 1 dongle.

#2
Posted 06/18/2007 04:15 PM   
I see, thank you.

So normaly that "dongle/box" is sold with the shutterglasses. And there's no way to connect the glasses another way like puting it in the video-out?
I see, thank you.



So normaly that "dongle/box" is sold with the shutterglasses. And there's no way to connect the glasses another way like puting it in the video-out?

#3
Posted 06/18/2007 08:15 PM   
No, the dongle/box syncronize the glasses with the CRT monitor otherwise You see no 3D.
No, the dongle/box syncronize the glasses with the CRT monitor otherwise You see no 3D.

#4
Posted 06/18/2007 08:25 PM   
Ok, well than I just have to buy a dongle :)
Ok, well than I just have to buy a dongle :)

#5
Posted 06/18/2007 08:48 PM   
[quote name='DvVgames' date='Jun 18 2007, 10:48 PM']Ok, well than I just have to buy a dongle :)
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you could also try to build one on your own ... :)

there are a few sites offering how to do it and here's one example
[url="http://www.int03.co.uk/crema/hardware/stereo/"]http://www.int03.co.uk/crema/hardware/stereo/[/url]

and here's an overview of different approaches:
[url="http://www.stereo3d.com/homebrew.htm"]http://www.stereo3d.com/homebrew.htm[/url]

Good luck and happy soldering ... ;)
[quote name='DvVgames' date='Jun 18 2007, 10:48 PM']Ok, well than I just have to buy a dongle :)

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you could also try to build one on your own ... :)



there are a few sites offering how to do it and here's one example

http://www.int03.co.uk/crema/hardware/stereo/



and here's an overview of different approaches:

http://www.stereo3d.com/homebrew.htm



Good luck and happy soldering ... ;)

#6
Posted 06/20/2007 09:46 AM   
These glasses are the old ones from Elsa/Asus. I have one which came with my old elsa Asus v6800 or so. I think it is older than Geforce 1 and 2. The glasses were directly conected to the Graphics card. Later it was replaced with newer glasses, which had the mentioned Dongle/Box with them and work with all VGA Geforcecards (DVI can be changed by adapter back to VGA).

Maybe you could get a cheap Elsa Revelator with this Dongle from Ebay(20-30$? They are realy cheap here in Germany). You woldn't have to tinker and the glasses'd be much more comfortable. That old one looks realy heavy!
These glasses are the old ones from Elsa/Asus. I have one which came with my old elsa Asus v6800 or so. I think it is older than Geforce 1 and 2. The glasses were directly conected to the Graphics card. Later it was replaced with newer glasses, which had the mentioned Dongle/Box with them and work with all VGA Geforcecards (DVI can be changed by adapter back to VGA).



Maybe you could get a cheap Elsa Revelator with this Dongle from Ebay(20-30$? They are realy cheap here in Germany). You woldn't have to tinker and the glasses'd be much more comfortable. That old one looks realy heavy!

#7
Posted 06/20/2007 11:54 AM   
for a cheap all in one solution I'd recommend my Razor3D glasses for ~20 Euros ... :)

[url="http://www.razor3d.de/en/3d_pc.asp"]http://www.razor3d.de/en/3d_pc.asp[/url]
for a cheap all in one solution I'd recommend my Razor3D glasses for ~20 Euros ... :)



http://www.razor3d.de/en/3d_pc.asp

#8
Posted 06/20/2007 12:41 PM   
Sorry I didn't know You once could get glasses without a dongle/box.
The ones at at 79,95 looks just like mine.

The ones at 19,95 are they with a dongle/box???

You can also get some here:
[url="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826504001"]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16826504001[/url]

They say they work with LCD but is that really true???
Sorry I didn't know You once could get glasses without a dongle/box.

The ones at at 79,95 looks just like mine.



The ones at 19,95 are they with a dongle/box???



You can also get some here:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16826504001



They say they work with LCD but is that really true???

#9
Posted 06/20/2007 02:21 PM   
[quote name='Freke1' date='Jun 20 2007, 04:21 PM']The ones at 19,95 are they with a dongle/box???
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Hi Freke,

if you mean the Razor3D that I linked, then yes, they come with a dongle and a very long cable to attach the glasses

[img]http://www.razor3d.de/shopimages/3d_pc_zoom.jpg[/img]

:)

Cheers,
Maggi
[quote name='Freke1' date='Jun 20 2007, 04:21 PM']The ones at 19,95 are they with a dongle/box???

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Hi Freke,



if you mean the Razor3D that I linked, then yes, they come with a dongle and a very long cable to attach the glasses



Image



:)



Cheers,

Maggi

#10
Posted 06/20/2007 03:19 PM   
[quote name='Freke1' date='Jun 20 2007, 03:21 PM']They say they work with LCD but is that really true???
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I think the Razor ones are cheaper products from ED. So they should 'work' with that ED-LCD wrapper - if at all with LCD.

If LCD is necessarry I'd go with Anaglyph and Nvidia or KindDragon's open Stereo-driver /whistling.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':whistling:' />
[quote name='Freke1' date='Jun 20 2007, 03:21 PM']They say they work with LCD but is that really true???

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I think the Razor ones are cheaper products from ED. So they should 'work' with that ED-LCD wrapper - if at all with LCD.



If LCD is necessarry I'd go with Anaglyph and Nvidia or KindDragon's open Stereo-driver /whistling.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':whistling:' />

#11
Posted 06/21/2007 10:57 AM   
Making one myself looks complex and I don't want to spend a lot of time in it, so I have bought a pair with dongle in germany. Maybe the same, also €19.95 I bought them at [url="http://cyberhaven.de/"]http://cyberhaven.de/[/url] Only a shame that I had to pay €12.00 for the transport to Holland :huh: And shipping them to the US would be a lot more than €12.00 but if they do their job, the few bugs don't realy matter.

Thanks for your replies. :)
Making one myself looks complex and I don't want to spend a lot of time in it, so I have bought a pair with dongle in germany. Maybe the same, also €19.95 I bought them at http://cyberhaven.de/ Only a shame that I had to pay €12.00 for the transport to Holland :huh: And shipping them to the US would be a lot more than €12.00 but if they do their job, the few bugs don't realy matter.



Thanks for your replies. :)

#12
Posted 06/22/2007 01:21 PM   
[quote name='Maggi' date='Jun 20 2007, 01:46 AM']you could also try to build one on your own ... :)

there are a few sites offering how to do it and here's one example
[url="http://www.int03.co.uk/crema/hardware/stereo/"]http://www.int03.co.uk/crema/hardware/stereo/[/url]

and here's an overview of different approaches:
[url="http://www.stereo3d.com/homebrew.htm"]http://www.stereo3d.com/homebrew.htm[/url]

[/quote]
That was very interesting, but I have 3 questions about it.
1) I see it uses a DIN3 connector, but the shutterglasses I know about (eDimensional and Razor3D) use a jack connector. Is it possible to adapt the device to use a jack connector?
2) What is KindDragon's stereo driver?
3) Is there a site that explains how to build a pair of shutterglasses? (yeah, I know "I can just buy a pair", in fact I already have a pair. But the technical aspect is what intrigues me)
[quote name='Maggi' date='Jun 20 2007, 01:46 AM']you could also try to build one on your own ... :)



there are a few sites offering how to do it and here's one example

http://www.int03.co.uk/crema/hardware/stereo/



and here's an overview of different approaches:

http://www.stereo3d.com/homebrew.htm





That was very interesting, but I have 3 questions about it.

1) I see it uses a DIN3 connector, but the shutterglasses I know about (eDimensional and Razor3D) use a jack connector. Is it possible to adapt the device to use a jack connector?

2) What is KindDragon's stereo driver?

3) Is there a site that explains how to build a pair of shutterglasses? (yeah, I know "I can just buy a pair", in fact I already have a pair. But the technical aspect is what intrigues me)

#13
Posted 06/28/2007 05:47 PM   
[quote name='DvVgames' date='Jun 22 2007, 03:21 PM']Making one myself looks complex and I don't want to spend a lot of time in it, so I have bought a pair with dongle in germany. Maybe the same, also €19.95 I bought them at [url="http://cyberhaven.de/"]http://cyberhaven.de/[/url] Only a shame that I had to pay €12.00 for the transport to Holland :huh: And shipping them to the US would be a lot more than €12.00 but if they do their job, the few bugs don't realy matter.

Thanks for your replies. :)
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LOL

I bought my Razor3D also at Cyberhaven ... :D

Usually the shop owner is very sraight forward for bundled shipment, eg. back then I ordered 5 pairs of glasses for a few friends and me and the shipping costs stayed about the same.



[quote name='Devil Master' date='Jun 28 2007, 07:47 PM']That was very interesting, but I have 3 questions about it.
1) I see it uses a DIN3 connector, but the shutterglasses I know about (eDimensional and Razor3D) use a jack connector. Is it possible to adapt the device to use a jack connector?
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for the 3.5mm mini jack connectors, you'd need a VGA pass-though dongle as there are linked a few on the "homebrew" page, but to make it short, you'll need for example this page:

[url="http://www.nord-com.net/accot.schulz/Shutters/Adaptors/PTTR.html"]http://www.nord-com.net/accot.schulz/Shutt...ptors/PTTR.html[/url]

Have fun !
Maggi
[quote name='DvVgames' date='Jun 22 2007, 03:21 PM']Making one myself looks complex and I don't want to spend a lot of time in it, so I have bought a pair with dongle in germany. Maybe the same, also €19.95 I bought them at http://cyberhaven.de/ Only a shame that I had to pay €12.00 for the transport to Holland :huh: And shipping them to the US would be a lot more than €12.00 but if they do their job, the few bugs don't realy matter.



Thanks for your replies. :)

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LOL



I bought my Razor3D also at Cyberhaven ... :D



Usually the shop owner is very sraight forward for bundled shipment, eg. back then I ordered 5 pairs of glasses for a few friends and me and the shipping costs stayed about the same.







[quote name='Devil Master' date='Jun 28 2007, 07:47 PM']That was very interesting, but I have 3 questions about it.

1) I see it uses a DIN3 connector, but the shutterglasses I know about (eDimensional and Razor3D) use a jack connector. Is it possible to adapt the device to use a jack connector?

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for the 3.5mm mini jack connectors, you'd need a VGA pass-though dongle as there are linked a few on the "homebrew" page, but to make it short, you'll need for example this page:



http://www.nord-com.net/accot.schulz/Shutt...ptors/PTTR.html



Have fun !

Maggi

#14
Posted 06/29/2007 01:47 PM   
1) no Idea, but it should. There has to be one pin somewhere which transports vSync. I think this one has to be connected to the Shutterglasses.

2) I was hinting at this topic:
[url="http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=38278"]http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=38278[/url]

KindDragon 'publishes' his S-3D 'driver' here.

3) I have some old Elsa Revelator's which stopped running. I took them to pieces and was amazed how complex they are. There were more smal chips and transistors than I had ever emagined.

-The glasses are naturally polarized in one direction and can switch on an additional layer in 90° to the first --> it gets completly black. They were connected with something like a cable and can dangle down from the glasses on them or moved to a different place. Unfortunatly, I couldn't find anything defect on the glasses. The plastic hull was broken, so it couldn't get back into original form...

I don't recomend to open glasses which are not 100% broken, or try to build ones of your own.

HMD's build with old small LCD displays and magnifiers would make more sense.
1) no Idea, but it should. There has to be one pin somewhere which transports vSync. I think this one has to be connected to the Shutterglasses.



2) I was hinting at this topic:

http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=38278



KindDragon 'publishes' his S-3D 'driver' here.



3) I have some old Elsa Revelator's which stopped running. I took them to pieces and was amazed how complex they are. There were more smal chips and transistors than I had ever emagined.



-The glasses are naturally polarized in one direction and can switch on an additional layer in 90° to the first --> it gets completly black. They were connected with something like a cable and can dangle down from the glasses on them or moved to a different place. Unfortunatly, I couldn't find anything defect on the glasses. The plastic hull was broken, so it couldn't get back into original form...



I don't recomend to open glasses which are not 100% broken, or try to build ones of your own.



HMD's build with old small LCD displays and magnifiers would make more sense.

#15
Posted 06/29/2007 01:57 PM   
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