Search information about EDID for 3DVision on LG OLED 4K 55EF950V (55EF9500)
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What I did was just changing the ID bytes of my LG to Acer in Monitor Asset Manager and exporting it to .inf. I didn't change anything else and 3D worked fine.
EDIT: I found my files. So only 4 bytes of ID are changed from the original EDID and nothing else.
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What I did was just changing the ID bytes of my LG to Acer in Monitor Asset Manager and exporting it to .inf. I didn't change anything else and 3D worked fine.
EDIT: I found my files. So only 4 bytes of ID are changed from the original EDID and nothing else.
[quote="joker18"] Yes Muojo just install teh edid.
Pauldusler, I don't know why it works for you like this because for me it doesn't do anything. Not on the TV and not on my 2D monitor. My TV gets 3dtvplay and my 2D monitor 3dvision discover. [/quote]
So after I install your EDID, what then? Do i just launch videos from 3dfix like normal?
How can I know that the 3D settings are scaled with my 55" screen as opposed to one that is 65"? In fact how can I know that the EDID profile works well for my C6 and that it wasn't made for another line like the 55EF950V?
Pauldusler, I don't know why it works for you like this because for me it doesn't do anything. Not on the TV and not on my 2D monitor. My TV gets 3dtvplay and my 2D monitor 3dvision discover.
So after I install your EDID, what then? Do i just launch videos from 3dfix like normal?
How can I know that the 3D settings are scaled with my 55" screen as opposed to one that is 65"? In fact how can I know that the EDID profile works well for my C6 and that it wasn't made for another line like the 55EF950V?
[quote="danjrowe27"]Anybody have any idea if I should keep my C6's black level to high or low? Thanks.[/quote]
if your output RGB full, it should be high. If it's limited, it should be low. So for YCbr black level should eb low
[quote="joker18"]Just in case anyone interested.
I modified a bit the previous 65E6V Edid.
The previous one didn't accept 2160@60hz in some games, just 2160@59,94 which apparently my TV didn't really like. It had stuttering.
This one also support 7.1 PCM (for receivers) and works properly with default color setting in Nvidia control panel. Switches automatically to proper color space depending on content (HDR/SDR).
PS: This also got rid of the weird inputlag variations I was having, now it is a steady inputlag both HDR and SDR game mode. Compared to my IPS monitor it has 30 ms, so I think real inputlag is 40-45ms. I can't explain why it doesn't match the Rtings measurement.
[/quote]
So this one works best for 65" only? what about 55"? And once I isntall the EDID, what do I do next to play 3D? and maybe even try other 3D formats like the TaB format the other guy was talking about?
joker18 said:Just in case anyone interested.
I modified a bit the previous 65E6V Edid.
The previous one didn't accept 2160@60hz in some games, just 2160@59,94 which apparently my TV didn't really like. It had stuttering.
This one also support 7.1 PCM (for receivers) and works properly with default color setting in Nvidia control panel. Switches automatically to proper color space depending on content (HDR/SDR).
PS: This also got rid of the weird inputlag variations I was having, now it is a steady inputlag both HDR and SDR game mode. Compared to my IPS monitor it has 30 ms, so I think real inputlag is 40-45ms. I can't explain why it doesn't match the Rtings measurement.
So this one works best for 65" only? what about 55"? And once I isntall the EDID, what do I do next to play 3D? and maybe even try other 3D formats like the TaB format the other guy was talking about?
[quote="joker18"]Your message is confusing. I don't know if you are giving advice or asking :D
Just changing the Device ID in CPU will not work.
you need to apply the Edid which is quite straightforward.
In Windows 10 press shift and hit restart-> chosse troubleshoot->advanced options-> startup settings. On restart choose option 7 ( disable driver signature enforcement..)
IN device manager look for your TV. If you have more and they are all generic then right click->properties->details->choose hardware ids. The LG TV shoudl be named GSM0001 .
Once you identifies just choose update driver and manually point to the edid file location. (have only that file in the filder not t get confused)
For the reverse of L/R you can use the registry mod or just reverse the L?R lens like I did on 2 om my glasses. [/quote]
I just tried this but it keeps telling me when I get to selecting the driver that Windows has already installed the latest drivers for this device.
I restarted my computer and chose disable driver signature enforcement
joker18 said:Your message is confusing. I don't know if you are giving advice or asking :D
Just changing the Device ID in CPU will not work.
you need to apply the Edid which is quite straightforward.
In Windows 10 press shift and hit restart-> chosse troubleshoot->advanced options-> startup settings. On restart choose option 7 ( disable driver signature enforcement..)
IN device manager look for your TV. If you have more and they are all generic then right click->properties->details->choose hardware ids. The LG TV shoudl be named GSM0001 .
Once you identifies just choose update driver and manually point to the edid file location. (have only that file in the filder not t get confused)
For the reverse of L/R you can use the registry mod or just reverse the L?R lens like I did on 2 om my glasses.
I just tried this but it keeps telling me when I get to selecting the driver that Windows has already installed the latest drivers for this device.
I restarted my computer and chose disable driver signature enforcement
It works for both TV sizes. The EDID automatically creates native line-interlaced format, so you do not need select a 3D format like TaB. After EDID override via Device Manager (indicate that you have local driver file for Monitor driver, then select EDID override file), the next step is simply to setup 3D using NVIDIA Control Panel (and verify using its 3D test pattern), then start gaming.
It works for both TV sizes. The EDID automatically creates native line-interlaced format, so you do not need select a 3D format like TaB. After EDID override via Device Manager (indicate that you have local driver file for Monitor driver, then select EDID override file), the next step is simply to setup 3D using NVIDIA Control Panel (and verify using its 3D test pattern), then start gaming.
[quote="Muojo"]
I just tried this but it keeps telling me when I get to selecting the driver that Windows has already installed the latest drivers for this device.
I restarted my computer and chose disable driver signature enforcement [/quote]
You are doing it wrong. You are probably searcing for new drivers automatically, you need to do this manually and indicate the exact file. Google is your friend there are tons of tutorials on how to manually install edids or drivers.
I just tried this but it keeps telling me when I get to selecting the driver that Windows has already installed the latest drivers for this device.
I restarted my computer and chose disable driver signature enforcement
You are doing it wrong. You are probably searcing for new drivers automatically, you need to do this manually and indicate the exact file. Google is your friend there are tons of tutorials on how to manually install edids or drivers.
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[quote="whyme466"]It works for both TV sizes. The EDID automatically creates native line-interlaced format, so you do not need select a 3D format like TaB. After EDID override via Device Manager (indicate that you have local driver file for Monitor driver, then select EDID override file), the next step is simply to setup 3D using NVIDIA Control Panel (and verify using its 3D test pattern), then start gaming.[/quote][quote="joker18"][quote="Muojo"]
I just tried this but it keeps telling me when I get to selecting the driver that Windows has already installed the latest drivers for this device.
I restarted my computer and chose disable driver signature enforcement [/quote]
You are doing it wrong. You are probably searcing for new drivers automatically, you need to do this manually and indicate the exact file. Google is your friend there are tons of tutorials on how to manually install edids or drivers. [/quote]
Yeah i finally installed it.
After that, I tried to launch games using the 3D Fix manager as I didn't know how else to do it. What I've found is that at 4K especially, for Crysis 3, Bioshock Infinite, Witcher 3, Arkham Knight, there is a lot of flickering especially when any object is in motion. Disabling motion blur in the games did not fix this. I've also noticed a bit of ghosting, especially in Crysis 3 which reduces only when I am aiming down my sights.
Right now it just doesn't lookgood with the artifiacts that happen when I move and for Infinite getting werid green bars all over my screen. Arkham Asylum has the same artifacting issue.
Am i not supposed to use the 3D Fix manager?
whyme466 said:It works for both TV sizes. The EDID automatically creates native line-interlaced format, so you do not need select a 3D format like TaB. After EDID override via Device Manager (indicate that you have local driver file for Monitor driver, then select EDID override file), the next step is simply to setup 3D using NVIDIA Control Panel (and verify using its 3D test pattern), then start gaming.
joker18 said:
Muojo said:
I just tried this but it keeps telling me when I get to selecting the driver that Windows has already installed the latest drivers for this device.
I restarted my computer and chose disable driver signature enforcement
You are doing it wrong. You are probably searcing for new drivers automatically, you need to do this manually and indicate the exact file. Google is your friend there are tons of tutorials on how to manually install edids or drivers.
Yeah i finally installed it.
After that, I tried to launch games using the 3D Fix manager as I didn't know how else to do it. What I've found is that at 4K especially, for Crysis 3, Bioshock Infinite, Witcher 3, Arkham Knight, there is a lot of flickering especially when any object is in motion. Disabling motion blur in the games did not fix this. I've also noticed a bit of ghosting, especially in Crysis 3 which reduces only when I am aiming down my sights.
Right now it just doesn't lookgood with the artifiacts that happen when I move and for Infinite getting werid green bars all over my screen. Arkham Asylum has the same artifacting issue.
[quote="joker18"] Yes Muojo just install teh edid.
Pauldusler, I don't know why it works for you like this because for me it doesn't do anything. Not on the TV and not on my 2D monitor. My TV gets 3dtvplay and my 2D monitor 3dvision discover. [/quote]
I just played around with this a bit on my Samsung TV which isn't compatible to 3D at all. Changing model ID via CRU did not work here! So I looked which setting in the EDID was responsible for this. In CRU only a default extension block was set for the TV. When I deleted it Acer passive 3D / Optimized for Geforce was unlocked! Same happened when I kept the default extensions block and added an empty CEA-861 block.
Then I was interested how to unlock 3DTV Play for that TV. For this changing the model ID does not help. I found out that 3DTV Play must meet the following requirements in the EDID:
[list]
[.]CEA-861 extension block must exist[/.]
[.]"TV Resolutions" data block must exist and in there 1280x720@60hz and 1920x1080@24hz resolutions must be added[/.]
[.]"HDMI support" data block must exist. It must have a size of 20 bytes. Unfortunately it's not possible to properly add this data block with CRU (no matter what you do it's not 20 bytes large). However importing an EDID of a 3DTV Play display works and sets the HDMI support block correctly[/.]
[/list]
But the most interesting finding is that the old way of installing EDID overrides is not required any more.
One example: for unlocking 3DTV Play on my TV I just had to import the EDID override file of a Sony 3D TV in CRU. This unlocked 3DTV Play (No edid override in device manager necessary!)
In case of "Optimized for Geforce" just change the model ID via CRU. If this does not unlock "optimized for geforce" then import Joker's edid override file (.inf) in CRU. This will add the CEA-861 block if missing and finally unlocks "optimized for geforce". Keep in mind that importing inf files in CRU does NOT change the model ID. You have to change the model ID manually in CRU! The last step is to restart the computer or double click on "restart.exe" which is included in CRU download files (it restarts the graphics driver).
Doing this procedure via CRU is much more comfortable than via Device Manager and classic EDID override. One issue of the classic wasy is that the device manager lists every monitor as a "PnP-monitor". So let's imagine you have 4 displays connected to the PC. It will be really funny to find out which PnP-monitor is the correct one you want to override ;). The other disadvantage of the classic way is that you have to reboot in a special mode to allow installing custom EDIDs.
Pauldusler, I don't know why it works for you like this because for me it doesn't do anything. Not on the TV and not on my 2D monitor. My TV gets 3dtvplay and my 2D monitor 3dvision discover.
I just played around with this a bit on my Samsung TV which isn't compatible to 3D at all. Changing model ID via CRU did not work here! So I looked which setting in the EDID was responsible for this. In CRU only a default extension block was set for the TV. When I deleted it Acer passive 3D / Optimized for Geforce was unlocked! Same happened when I kept the default extensions block and added an empty CEA-861 block.
Then I was interested how to unlock 3DTV Play for that TV. For this changing the model ID does not help. I found out that 3DTV Play must meet the following requirements in the EDID:
CEA-861 extension block must exist
"TV Resolutions" data block must exist and in there 1280x720@60hz and 1920x1080@24hz resolutions must be added
"HDMI support" data block must exist. It must have a size of 20 bytes. Unfortunately it's not possible to properly add this data block with CRU (no matter what you do it's not 20 bytes large). However importing an EDID of a 3DTV Play display works and sets the HDMI support block correctly
But the most interesting finding is that the old way of installing EDID overrides is not required any more.
One example: for unlocking 3DTV Play on my TV I just had to import the EDID override file of a Sony 3D TV in CRU. This unlocked 3DTV Play (No edid override in device manager necessary!)
In case of "Optimized for Geforce" just change the model ID via CRU. If this does not unlock "optimized for geforce" then import Joker's edid override file (.inf) in CRU. This will add the CEA-861 block if missing and finally unlocks "optimized for geforce". Keep in mind that importing inf files in CRU does NOT change the model ID. You have to change the model ID manually in CRU! The last step is to restart the computer or double click on "restart.exe" which is included in CRU download files (it restarts the graphics driver).
Doing this procedure via CRU is much more comfortable than via Device Manager and classic EDID override. One issue of the classic wasy is that the device manager lists every monitor as a "PnP-monitor". So let's imagine you have 4 displays connected to the PC. It will be really funny to find out which PnP-monitor is the correct one you want to override ;). The other disadvantage of the classic way is that you have to reboot in a special mode to allow installing custom EDIDs.
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Muojo - how does the NVIDIA 3D test pattern look in NVIDIA Control Panel (low ghosting, smooth motion, clean edges and colors)? Have you made all the correct TV settings (like disabling default OLED anti-image retention setting - this can cause L/R eyes to randomly flip), described in the links I shared? By the way, be sure to enable advanced in-game settings under Set Keyboards Shortcuts button, in Set up stereoscopic 3D window (to enable convergence - that is, perception of depth - changes for individual games, and for saving those changes).
With respect to flickering, 4K 3D gaming requires a lot of GPU and CPU resources. For example, I have 2080Ti for GPU and i9-9900X for CPU, to play recent games like Shadow of the Tomb Raider with more consistent and playable frame rates (like 25 fps). Some forum members have found techniques to game with C6’s and E6’s using lower resolution settings (below native 3840x2160 resolution) - I have no experience with these techniques, unfortunately. Otherwise, you may need to lower in-game graphics settings to obtain descent gaming frame rates for some games (changing in-game resolution setting does not always work with EDID)...
In 3D gaming, you should always disable any Depth of Field in-game setting if possible, and I generally disable any motion blurring, as well.
EDIDs only require special startup signature override one time (first time applied, thanks to Windows 10 security). Note that accessing Safe Mode for DDU requires the same special startup, every time graphics driver is updated.
Muojo - how does the NVIDIA 3D test pattern look in NVIDIA Control Panel (low ghosting, smooth motion, clean edges and colors)? Have you made all the correct TV settings (like disabling default OLED anti-image retention setting - this can cause L/R eyes to randomly flip), described in the links I shared? By the way, be sure to enable advanced in-game settings under Set Keyboards Shortcuts button, in Set up stereoscopic 3D window (to enable convergence - that is, perception of depth - changes for individual games, and for saving those changes).
With respect to flickering, 4K 3D gaming requires a lot of GPU and CPU resources. For example, I have 2080Ti for GPU and i9-9900X for CPU, to play recent games like Shadow of the Tomb Raider with more consistent and playable frame rates (like 25 fps). Some forum members have found techniques to game with C6’s and E6’s using lower resolution settings (below native 3840x2160 resolution) - I have no experience with these techniques, unfortunately. Otherwise, you may need to lower in-game graphics settings to obtain descent gaming frame rates for some games (changing in-game resolution setting does not always work with EDID)...
In 3D gaming, you should always disable any Depth of Field in-game setting if possible, and I generally disable any motion blurring, as well.
EDIDs only require special startup signature override one time (first time applied, thanks to Windows 10 security). Note that accessing Safe Mode for DDU requires the same special startup, every time graphics driver is updated.
[quote="whyme466"]Muojo - how does the NVIDIA 3D test pattern look in NVIDIA Control Panel (low ghosting, smooth motion, clean edges and colors)? Have you made all the correct TV settings (like disabling default OLED anti-image retention setting - this can cause L/R eyes to randomly flip), described in the links I shared? By the way, be sure to enable advanced in-game settings under Set Keyboards Shortcuts button, in Set up stereoscopic 3D window (to enable convergence - that is, perception of depth - changes for individual games, and for saving those changes). [/quote]
I'll have to check. haven't messed with the Nvidia CP yet. And when you say advanced in game settings, where do I even set those? What app? is the Nvidia CP, or 3D Fix Manager?
[quote="whyme466"]
With respect to flickering, 4K 3D gaming requires a lot of GPU and CPU resources. For example, I have 2080Ti for GPU and i9-9900X for CPU, to play recent games like Shadow of the Tomb Raider with more consistent and playable frame rates (like 25 fps). Some forum members have found techniques to game with C6’s and E6’s using lower resolution settings (below native 3840x2160 resolution) - I have no experience with these techniques, unfortunately. Otherwise, you may need to lower in-game graphics settings to obtain descent gaming frame rates for some games...
In 3D gaming, you should always disable any Depth of Field in-game setting if possible, and I generally disable any motion blurring, as well.
EDIDs only require special startup signature override one time (first time applied, thanks to Windows 10 security). Note that accessing Safe Mode for DDU requires the same special startup, every time graphics driver is updated.[/quote]
1. Well I have to look at that upscaling thing to see if I can upscale 1440p to 4K. What I have found with current EDID is that 1440p doesn't work in 4K. In fact it seems with the new EDID, only 4K works for 3D which is strange to me. I thought the whole point was to let you be able to game in 3D in any resolution
2. Flickering /artifacting is different from my frame rate. In Arkham Asylum for example, I get 55 fps despite my GPU use being only 50% at most and yet I get artifacting when moving around.
whyme466 said:Muojo - how does the NVIDIA 3D test pattern look in NVIDIA Control Panel (low ghosting, smooth motion, clean edges and colors)? Have you made all the correct TV settings (like disabling default OLED anti-image retention setting - this can cause L/R eyes to randomly flip), described in the links I shared? By the way, be sure to enable advanced in-game settings under Set Keyboards Shortcuts button, in Set up stereoscopic 3D window (to enable convergence - that is, perception of depth - changes for individual games, and for saving those changes).
I'll have to check. haven't messed with the Nvidia CP yet. And when you say advanced in game settings, where do I even set those? What app? is the Nvidia CP, or 3D Fix Manager?
whyme466 said:
With respect to flickering, 4K 3D gaming requires a lot of GPU and CPU resources. For example, I have 2080Ti for GPU and i9-9900X for CPU, to play recent games like Shadow of the Tomb Raider with more consistent and playable frame rates (like 25 fps). Some forum members have found techniques to game with C6’s and E6’s using lower resolution settings (below native 3840x2160 resolution) - I have no experience with these techniques, unfortunately. Otherwise, you may need to lower in-game graphics settings to obtain descent gaming frame rates for some games...
In 3D gaming, you should always disable any Depth of Field in-game setting if possible, and I generally disable any motion blurring, as well.
EDIDs only require special startup signature override one time (first time applied, thanks to Windows 10 security). Note that accessing Safe Mode for DDU requires the same special startup, every time graphics driver is updated.
1. Well I have to look at that upscaling thing to see if I can upscale 1440p to 4K. What I have found with current EDID is that 1440p doesn't work in 4K. In fact it seems with the new EDID, only 4K works for 3D which is strange to me. I thought the whole point was to let you be able to game in 3D in any resolution
2. Flickering /artifacting is different from my frame rate. In Arkham Asylum for example, I get 55 fps despite my GPU use being only 50% at most and yet I get artifacting when moving around.
[quote="Muojo"]advanced in game settings, where do I even set those? What app? is the Nvidia CP, or 3D Fix Manager?[/quote]
Check this link for the answer
https://3dvision-blog.com/tag/3dvision-convergence/
[quote="D-Man11"][quote="Muojo"]advanced in game settings, where do I even set those? What app? is the Nvidia CP, or 3D Fix Manager?[/quote]
Check this link for the answer
https://3dvision-blog.com/tag/3dvision-convergence/[/quote]
And still no answer to my question. Do I have no need for 3D fix anymore then?
Is everything launched through 3D vision. I am confused now cause all I was told was just to install EDID. But majority of games I own that I know work in 3D don't have the option for 3D in the settings. So what I understood was to launch games using 3D Fix Manager.
And still no answer to my question. Do I have no need for 3D fix anymore then?
Is everything launched through 3D vision. I am confused now cause all I was told was just to install EDID. But majority of games I own that I know work in 3D don't have the option for 3D in the settings. So what I understood was to launch games using 3D Fix Manager.
Sorry that previous link was bad
https://3dvision-blog.com/111-changing-the-convergence-level-in-3d-vision/
Convergence and depth are adjustments made to the frame/image being viewed.
They are "adjustments"
These are done while you are playing the game in 3D
[quote="whyme466"]By the way, be sure to enable advanced in-game settings under Set Keyboards Shortcuts button, in Set up stereoscopic 3D window (to enable convergence - that is, perception of depth - changes for individual games, and for saving those changes).[/quote]
[color="orange"]He simply made this statement, because those hotkeys are not enabled by default.[/color] You need to manually enable them in NVCP
[quote="Muojo"]And still no answer to my question. Do I have no need for 3D fix anymore then[/quote]
I'm sorry, where did you ask this?
And yes, you do need to install fixes in games that need one, if there is one available.
See the list of available fixes here
http://helixmod.blogspot.com/2013/10/game-list-automatically-updated.html
On the game page are instructions on how and where to manually install it
[quote="Muojo"]Do I have no need for 3D fix anymore then[/quote]
If you mean 3DFixManager, that is up to you. You can download the fixes and install them manually or use 3DFixManager to automate the process.
Convergence and depth are adjustments made to the frame/image being viewed.
They are "adjustments"
These are done while you are playing the game in 3D
whyme466 said:By the way, be sure to enable advanced in-game settings under Set Keyboards Shortcuts button, in Set up stereoscopic 3D window (to enable convergence - that is, perception of depth - changes for individual games, and for saving those changes).
He simply made this statement, because those hotkeys are not enabled by default. You need to manually enable them in NVCP
Muojo said:And still no answer to my question. Do I have no need for 3D fix anymore then
I'm sorry, where did you ask this?
And yes, you do need to install fixes in games that need one, if there is one available.
EDIT: I found my files. So only 4 bytes of ID are changed from the original EDID and nothing else.
So after I install your EDID, what then? Do i just launch videos from 3dfix like normal?
How can I know that the 3D settings are scaled with my 55" screen as opposed to one that is 65"? In fact how can I know that the EDID profile works well for my C6 and that it wasn't made for another line like the 55EF950V?
if your output RGB full, it should be high. If it's limited, it should be low. So for YCbr black level should eb low
So this one works best for 65" only? what about 55"? And once I isntall the EDID, what do I do next to play 3D? and maybe even try other 3D formats like the TaB format the other guy was talking about?
I just tried this but it keeps telling me when I get to selecting the driver that Windows has already installed the latest drivers for this device.
I restarted my computer and chose disable driver signature enforcement
You are doing it wrong. You are probably searcing for new drivers automatically, you need to do this manually and indicate the exact file. Google is your friend there are tons of tutorials on how to manually install edids or drivers.
Intel i7 8086K
Gigabyte GTX 1080Ti Aorus Extreme
DDR4 2x8gb 3200mhz Cl14
TV LG OLED65E6V
Avegant Glyph
Windows 10 64bits
Yeah i finally installed it.
After that, I tried to launch games using the 3D Fix manager as I didn't know how else to do it. What I've found is that at 4K especially, for Crysis 3, Bioshock Infinite, Witcher 3, Arkham Knight, there is a lot of flickering especially when any object is in motion. Disabling motion blur in the games did not fix this. I've also noticed a bit of ghosting, especially in Crysis 3 which reduces only when I am aiming down my sights.
Right now it just doesn't lookgood with the artifiacts that happen when I move and for Infinite getting werid green bars all over my screen. Arkham Asylum has the same artifacting issue.
Am i not supposed to use the 3D Fix manager?
I just played around with this a bit on my Samsung TV which isn't compatible to 3D at all. Changing model ID via CRU did not work here! So I looked which setting in the EDID was responsible for this. In CRU only a default extension block was set for the TV. When I deleted it Acer passive 3D / Optimized for Geforce was unlocked! Same happened when I kept the default extensions block and added an empty CEA-861 block.
Then I was interested how to unlock 3DTV Play for that TV. For this changing the model ID does not help. I found out that 3DTV Play must meet the following requirements in the EDID:
But the most interesting finding is that the old way of installing EDID overrides is not required any more.
One example: for unlocking 3DTV Play on my TV I just had to import the EDID override file of a Sony 3D TV in CRU. This unlocked 3DTV Play (No edid override in device manager necessary!)
In case of "Optimized for Geforce" just change the model ID via CRU. If this does not unlock "optimized for geforce" then import Joker's edid override file (.inf) in CRU. This will add the CEA-861 block if missing and finally unlocks "optimized for geforce". Keep in mind that importing inf files in CRU does NOT change the model ID. You have to change the model ID manually in CRU! The last step is to restart the computer or double click on "restart.exe" which is included in CRU download files (it restarts the graphics driver).
Doing this procedure via CRU is much more comfortable than via Device Manager and classic EDID override. One issue of the classic wasy is that the device manager lists every monitor as a "PnP-monitor". So let's imagine you have 4 displays connected to the PC. It will be really funny to find out which PnP-monitor is the correct one you want to override ;). The other disadvantage of the classic way is that you have to reboot in a special mode to allow installing custom EDIDs.
ASUS ROG Strix GeForce GTX 1080 | Core I7-7700K | 16GB RAM | Win10 Pro x64
Asus ROG Swift PG278Q 3D Vision Monitor
Optoma UHD 40 3D Vision Projector
Paypal donations for 3D Fix Manager: duselpaul86@gmx.de
With respect to flickering, 4K 3D gaming requires a lot of GPU and CPU resources. For example, I have 2080Ti for GPU and i9-9900X for CPU, to play recent games like Shadow of the Tomb Raider with more consistent and playable frame rates (like 25 fps). Some forum members have found techniques to game with C6’s and E6’s using lower resolution settings (below native 3840x2160 resolution) - I have no experience with these techniques, unfortunately. Otherwise, you may need to lower in-game graphics settings to obtain descent gaming frame rates for some games (changing in-game resolution setting does not always work with EDID)...
In 3D gaming, you should always disable any Depth of Field in-game setting if possible, and I generally disable any motion blurring, as well.
EDIDs only require special startup signature override one time (first time applied, thanks to Windows 10 security). Note that accessing Safe Mode for DDU requires the same special startup, every time graphics driver is updated.
I'll have to check. haven't messed with the Nvidia CP yet. And when you say advanced in game settings, where do I even set those? What app? is the Nvidia CP, or 3D Fix Manager?
1. Well I have to look at that upscaling thing to see if I can upscale 1440p to 4K. What I have found with current EDID is that 1440p doesn't work in 4K. In fact it seems with the new EDID, only 4K works for 3D which is strange to me. I thought the whole point was to let you be able to game in 3D in any resolution
2. Flickering /artifacting is different from my frame rate. In Arkham Asylum for example, I get 55 fps despite my GPU use being only 50% at most and yet I get artifacting when moving around.
Check this link for the answer
https://3dvision-blog.com/tag/3dvision-convergence/
And still no answer to my question. Do I have no need for 3D fix anymore then?
Is everything launched through 3D vision. I am confused now cause all I was told was just to install EDID. But majority of games I own that I know work in 3D don't have the option for 3D in the settings. So what I understood was to launch games using 3D Fix Manager.
https://3dvision-blog.com/111-changing-the-convergence-level-in-3d-vision/
Convergence and depth are adjustments made to the frame/image being viewed.
They are "adjustments"
These are done while you are playing the game in 3D
He simply made this statement, because those hotkeys are not enabled by default. You need to manually enable them in NVCP
I'm sorry, where did you ask this?
And yes, you do need to install fixes in games that need one, if there is one available.
See the list of available fixes here
http://helixmod.blogspot.com/2013/10/game-list-automatically-updated.html
On the game page are instructions on how and where to manually install it
If you mean 3DFixManager, that is up to you. You can download the fixes and install them manually or use 3DFixManager to automate the process.