GTX 970 4K 3D VIsion gaming success with LGUB850V Passive TV
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I've been playing around with this for a bit, and is it normal for 'Optimized for 3d vision' to be significantly slower than regular '3d Vision'?
From a couple of games I've tested, with the same settings and resolution, tridef is about 20% slower than regular stereo '3d Vision', but the interleaved 'Optimized for 3d vision' is about 20% slower than tridef...I.e interleaved passive 3d vision is seemingly about 40% slower than regular stereo 3d vision? This doesn't seem right to me, what could the cause of this be?
I've been playing around with this for a bit, and is it normal for 'Optimized for 3d vision' to be significantly slower than regular '3d Vision'?
From a couple of games I've tested, with the same settings and resolution, tridef is about 20% slower than regular stereo '3d Vision', but the interleaved 'Optimized for 3d vision' is about 20% slower than tridef...I.e interleaved passive 3d vision is seemingly about 40% slower than regular stereo 3d vision? This doesn't seem right to me, what could the cause of this be?
Apologies, I wasn't particularly clear.
Im talking in terms of fps.
Ive had the same regular 3d vision > tridef > optimized for 3d vision in two games i've tried (SWTOR and Dragon Age Origins)
Windows 10, 1080 SLI, latest driver (378.78)
Are there any collected (verified) list from tv models what would work this edid hack ?
I'm all ready happy LG UC970V 65" owner and edid hack user but I may purchase another tv for pc gaming only.
The EDID mod appears to only work with passive LG 4K 3D TVs - I have used joker18's EDID version successfully on 4 differerent LG models (2 LED and 2 OLED). My passive Sony 4K TV does not work with this EDID, for example (but it is also not fully HDMI 2.0 compliant, though it supports great 1080p 3D).
Other 4K TVs (like active Samsung displays) can work with some of the newer 3Dmigoto game fixes featuring support for TAB and SBS 3D display modes (use TAB, rather than SBS for better 3D).
By the way, I noted that my 55 in models had a bigger 3D FOV than my 65 in model, when viewed at each passive model's minimum 3D viewing distance - so my new sets have only been 55 in versions (for largest 3D display at lowest cost). If you get another TV, I highly recommend OLED 55e6 - while they are still available for sale. Note that c6 and e6 OLED models (2016) introduced new OLED screen-saver setting that must be disabled for stable 3D...
The EDID mod appears to only work with passive LG 4K 3D TVs - I have used joker18's EDID version successfully on 4 differerent LG models (2 LED and 2 OLED). My passive Sony 4K TV does not work with this EDID, for example (but it is also not fully HDMI 2.0 compliant, though it supports great 1080p 3D).
Other 4K TVs (like active Samsung displays) can work with some of the newer 3Dmigoto game fixes featuring support for TAB and SBS 3D display modes (use TAB, rather than SBS for better 3D).
By the way, I noted that my 55 in models had a bigger 3D FOV than my 65 in model, when viewed at each passive model's minimum 3D viewing distance - so my new sets have only been 55 in versions (for largest 3D display at lowest cost). If you get another TV, I highly recommend OLED 55e6 - while they are still available for sale. Note that c6 and e6 OLED models (2016) introduced new OLED screen-saver setting that must be disabled for stable 3D...
My experience and opinions on 4K Passive 3DTV's (never used an active 3DTV, only monitors):
Almost all LG passive 4K 3DTV's will work with EDID overrides, there may be exceptions (especially for some OLED models) or may need specifically configured EDIDs. Also some Passive 4K 3DTV's from other brands may work with EDIDs (for example some Philips and Vestel models).
- 2016 LG LED and OLED models have the lowest input lag, faster than previous year's models. I'm not certain but I believe that 2016 LED models are a little faster than 2016 OLED models, but negligible difference.
Ofcourse OLED models have the best image quality and color accuracy, also again I'm not certain but I believe that they have less ghosting/crosstalk than LED models. LED models have terrible QC issues, especially with the FPR filter; you may need to RMA several LED TV's until finding a good one. QC on OLED models are a little better but not great.
I'm using an 2016 LG 55UH850V, replaced once, first one had mind blowingly bad crosstalk/ghosting, second one is very good but not perfect.
- 2015 and previous LED and OLED models have higher input lag, most 2015 models have acceptable values, but some models are really slow. I think QC on 2015 LED models' FPR filters are better than 2016 models. Also almost all LG 3DTV models before 2016 have more 3D options.
Most important one is manual interleaved mode, it has higher input lag than automatic mode but by this option you can play games in 3D at lower resolutions without any help from third party softwares.
So for gaming if you want faster response, buy a 2016 LED model, but if you want more 3D options, less restrictions and flexibility then buy a 2015 OLED model.
My experience and opinions on 4K Passive 3DTV's (never used an active 3DTV, only monitors):
Almost all LG passive 4K 3DTV's will work with EDID overrides, there may be exceptions (especially for some OLED models) or may need specifically configured EDIDs. Also some Passive 4K 3DTV's from other brands may work with EDIDs (for example some Philips and Vestel models).
- 2016 LG LED and OLED models have the lowest input lag, faster than previous year's models. I'm not certain but I believe that 2016 LED models are a little faster than 2016 OLED models, but negligible difference.
Ofcourse OLED models have the best image quality and color accuracy, also again I'm not certain but I believe that they have less ghosting/crosstalk than LED models. LED models have terrible QC issues, especially with the FPR filter; you may need to RMA several LED TV's until finding a good one. QC on OLED models are a little better but not great.
I'm using an 2016 LG 55UH850V, replaced once, first one had mind blowingly bad crosstalk/ghosting, second one is very good but not perfect.
- 2015 and previous LED and OLED models have higher input lag, most 2015 models have acceptable values, but some models are really slow. I think QC on 2015 LED models' FPR filters are better than 2016 models. Also almost all LG 3DTV models before 2016 have more 3D options.
Most important one is manual interleaved mode, it has higher input lag than automatic mode but by this option you can play games in 3D at lower resolutions without any help from third party softwares.
So for gaming if you want faster response, buy a 2016 LED model, but if you want more 3D options, less restrictions and flexibility then buy a 2015 OLED model.
Asus Deluxe Gen3, Core i7 2700k@4.5Ghz, GTX 1080Ti, 16 GB RAM, Win 7 64bit
Samsung Pro 250 GB SSD, 4 TB WD Black (games)
Benq XL2720Z
Hello guys,
I need your knowledgeable help on this 3D TV subject.
I’ve just bought an LG 55UH850V TV and I’m trying to put it to the test. I’ve spend a couple of hours reading through the different threads related to 3D gaming on TVs, and I think I’m getting the basic info down, but I have some questions. Hope you can assist, from your experience.
So, what I think I understand, please confirm:
1. It’s possible to play games in 3D Vision, but only at 720p. It requires 3D TV Play, or the pyramid connected. In my case, the emitter is embedded in the monitor, so I guess I need to buy a licence. Correct?
2. The above it’s generally considered a subpar experience, in favour of an EDID override which would allow the TV to use bigger resolutions, although with a performance hit. I have SLI GTX1080s, so some games might be ok. Correct?
3. Playing a 3D bluray to test the movie 3D might require additional software, such as Power DVD? I don’t have a console yet, so I’ll have to do it from PC or laptop.
What I don’t understand, and I get frustrated:
4. Is there any documentation here to explain the EDID override process? I found a couple of posts with some file links, but there’s just so much variation, color types, settings, and it’s never explained where the settings are and how to set them etc. On TV, on PC, in the .inf file … I’m a geek at heart, so the fact that I find all this arcane must be down to my growing age, or total lack of TV experience.
5. In one of the posts there is mention of panel/filter problems in similar TVs, which scares me a lot. Outlines being doubled, ghosting, blurring, etc. How can I test this to see if my TV has this issue? Will it appear in bluray 3D? Or only in 3D Vision Play? Or only in the EDID overrive scenario? For example, yesterday I played a rip of Great Gatsby, and there were line doubling, and crosstalk and other artifacts, but I put it down to the fact that it was a very poor rip (+2hours movie 3D rip, only about 2Gb). Now, after reading all this, I’m afraid that it may be the panel.
I know this is asking a lot, but I really tried to read everything I could before asking for help.
I would really appreciate it if people like Joker18, Whyme466, Lacuna or any others that have already experienced what I’m going through could provide some guidance. Maybe it can even serve as a more structured reply for future users, I could not find anything that provides assistance from scratch, for people who are new to 3D TVs.
Thank you in advance, guys!
Hello guys,
I need your knowledgeable help on this 3D TV subject.
I’ve just bought an LG 55UH850V TV and I’m trying to put it to the test. I’ve spend a couple of hours reading through the different threads related to 3D gaming on TVs, and I think I’m getting the basic info down, but I have some questions. Hope you can assist, from your experience.
So, what I think I understand, please confirm:
1. It’s possible to play games in 3D Vision, but only at 720p. It requires 3D TV Play, or the pyramid connected. In my case, the emitter is embedded in the monitor, so I guess I need to buy a licence. Correct?
2. The above it’s generally considered a subpar experience, in favour of an EDID override which would allow the TV to use bigger resolutions, although with a performance hit. I have SLI GTX1080s, so some games might be ok. Correct?
3. Playing a 3D bluray to test the movie 3D might require additional software, such as Power DVD? I don’t have a console yet, so I’ll have to do it from PC or laptop.
What I don’t understand, and I get frustrated:
4. Is there any documentation here to explain the EDID override process? I found a couple of posts with some file links, but there’s just so much variation, color types, settings, and it’s never explained where the settings are and how to set them etc. On TV, on PC, in the .inf file … I’m a geek at heart, so the fact that I find all this arcane must be down to my growing age, or total lack of TV experience.
5. In one of the posts there is mention of panel/filter problems in similar TVs, which scares me a lot. Outlines being doubled, ghosting, blurring, etc. How can I test this to see if my TV has this issue? Will it appear in bluray 3D? Or only in 3D Vision Play? Or only in the EDID overrive scenario? For example, yesterday I played a rip of Great Gatsby, and there were line doubling, and crosstalk and other artifacts, but I put it down to the fact that it was a very poor rip (+2hours movie 3D rip, only about 2Gb). Now, after reading all this, I’m afraid that it may be the panel.
I know this is asking a lot, but I really tried to read everything I could before asking for help.
I would really appreciate it if people like Joker18, Whyme466, Lacuna or any others that have already experienced what I’m going through could provide some guidance. Maybe it can even serve as a more structured reply for future users, I could not find anything that provides assistance from scratch, for people who are new to 3D TVs.
Thank you in advance, guys!
I believe I have the same TV as you, only it's the 60 inch US version. All I had to do is download Innuendo's Acer edid and install it. You will have to disable digital driver signing if you are on Windows 8 or 10 to install the edid. Also, you'll need the 3D vision eye swapper app because eyes are reversed by default. Hopefully this helps. I don't have time to step by step link these items at the moment but I can try later if you're still having trouble.
I believe I have the same TV as you, only it's the 60 inch US version. All I had to do is download Innuendo's Acer edid and install it. You will have to disable digital driver signing if you are on Windows 8 or 10 to install the edid. Also, you'll need the 3D vision eye swapper app because eyes are reversed by default. Hopefully this helps. I don't have time to step by step link these items at the moment but I can try later if you're still having trouble.
Gigabyte Gaming 5 Z170X, i7-6700K @ 4.4ghz, Asus GTX 2080 ti Strix OC , 16gb DDR4 Corsair Vengence 2666, LG 60uh8500 and 49ub8500 passive 4K 3D EDID, Dell S2716DG.
Zappologist - suggest you start by reading links in [url]https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/818183/3d-vision/gtx-970-4k-3d-vision-gaming-success-with-lgub850v-passive-tv-/post/4506611/#4506611[/url]. I suggest using joker18's 4K EDID mod (posting #114, 55UC970 modat.tif) instead, and downloading 3DVisionEye Swapper app to automatically make Registry changes (and preserve ability to save convergence changes via F5-7 keys). SoundBlstr has provided a complete description of settings for OLED TV, but many of the settings are common for all LG TVs - see [url]https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/943900/3d-vision/search-information-about-edid-for-3dvision-on-lg-oled-4k-55ef950v-55ef9500-/post/5078498/#5078498[/url].
4. EDID override installation is simple, so no guide needed. Just use Device Manager and right click on the TV to install EDID and restart your computer, that's all. If you want to make your own EDID than there are guides on external sites.
5. Simplest test to see a faulty panel is using black/white crosstalk test and there's also rabbit test, there are videos on Youtube. If your panel is good than you'll see a uniform gray screen with black and white test, but if it's faulty than you'll see lots of big white spaces, not uniform gray and these white spaces will cause double images and abnormal crosstalk.
4. EDID override installation is simple, so no guide needed. Just use Device Manager and right click on the TV to install EDID and restart your computer, that's all. If you want to make your own EDID than there are guides on external sites.
5. Simplest test to see a faulty panel is using black/white crosstalk test and there's also rabbit test, there are videos on Youtube. If your panel is good than you'll see a uniform gray screen with black and white test, but if it's faulty than you'll see lots of big white spaces, not uniform gray and these white spaces will cause double images and abnormal crosstalk.
Asus Deluxe Gen3, Core i7 2700k@4.5Ghz, GTX 1080Ti, 16 GB RAM, Win 7 64bit
Samsung Pro 250 GB SSD, 4 TB WD Black (games)
Benq XL2720Z
Thanks for the reply guys.
I'll research some more and follow the links, but I'm trying to start small, and I just realise that I cannot test even basic stuff, this is infuriating.
I cannot play any 3D Blurays, I guess I really need a specific player. Is there any free one?
And I cannot test games, since my emitter is incorporated in the monitor.
The only thing I can test are 3D film rips, and all the movies I have tried have very bad 3D. Double image, elements that appear at the wrong depth especially when there is a change of scene/image, as if they don't know the correct depth and then they find it if the scene remains teh same, etc.
I'd like to determine if that's a problem of passive TVs in general, or whether I have a bad TV. And it seems I have no way of determining this until I buy Power DVD pro, a console, a separate nvidia pyramid/emitter, or attempting the EDID override directly.
If I connect the TV via HDMI to the new computer, while leaving the monitor with incorporated emitter plugged in, will this trigger the 3D TV Play software? Or I need to install it first as a trial anyway?
I'm at my wits' ends here, for the moment I'm abandoning the idea of having this TV as my main gaming setup, I'd like to at least determine whether it's faulty or not. Any idea how I could test this the easiest? The 3D of rips looks really messed up. Sorry for the rant.
Thanks for the reply guys.
I'll research some more and follow the links, but I'm trying to start small, and I just realise that I cannot test even basic stuff, this is infuriating.
I cannot play any 3D Blurays, I guess I really need a specific player. Is there any free one?
And I cannot test games, since my emitter is incorporated in the monitor.
The only thing I can test are 3D film rips, and all the movies I have tried have very bad 3D. Double image, elements that appear at the wrong depth especially when there is a change of scene/image, as if they don't know the correct depth and then they find it if the scene remains teh same, etc.
I'd like to determine if that's a problem of passive TVs in general, or whether I have a bad TV. And it seems I have no way of determining this until I buy Power DVD pro, a console, a separate nvidia pyramid/emitter, or attempting the EDID override directly.
If I connect the TV via HDMI to the new computer, while leaving the monitor with incorporated emitter plugged in, will this trigger the 3D TV Play software? Or I need to install it first as a trial anyway?
I'm at my wits' ends here, for the moment I'm abandoning the idea of having this TV as my main gaming setup, I'd like to at least determine whether it's faulty or not. Any idea how I could test this the easiest? The 3D of rips looks really messed up. Sorry for the rant.
Does anyone know a free player (or cheaper than the insane 100eur for PowerDVD) for 3D bluray playback?
I've seen on the net something called 5Kplayer, anyone know if that works?
I've reluctantly opened my only Nvidia kit I had bought for rainy days, and I've been able to test 3D games by connecting the pyramid to the PC. The ghosting is terrible, much worse than my ASUS display, is tht normal for TVs? But now it seems better, i've discovered that if I don't set the resolution in game to 720p the 3D and ghosting is horrible so that was the main cause I think. Another cause was the fact that I had my TV on the groud so my eyes were very far off middle axis. This TV (or passive TVs in general?) seems to be extremely sensitive to the viewing axis, especially vertical I think. The bottom part of the screen seemed to have some sort of ghosting or simply objects becoming screen depth, hard to explain without showing.
So now I need to test 3D blurays, then EDID, to decide if I keep the TV.
I hope I can come to you guys if I get stuck.
Thanks!
PS
There is a very noticeable mouse delay when I mess around in Windows with the TV as display. Is this what they call input lag? Is it supposed to be sooooo bad? Sorry, I'm such a noob, I really never owned a TV so I'm just learning everything at once.
Does anyone know a free player (or cheaper than the insane 100eur for PowerDVD) for 3D bluray playback?
I've seen on the net something called 5Kplayer, anyone know if that works?
I've reluctantly opened my only Nvidia kit I had bought for rainy days, and I've been able to test 3D games by connecting the pyramid to the PC. The ghosting is terrible, much worse than my ASUS display, is tht normal for TVs? But now it seems better, i've discovered that if I don't set the resolution in game to 720p the 3D and ghosting is horrible so that was the main cause I think. Another cause was the fact that I had my TV on the groud so my eyes were very far off middle axis. This TV (or passive TVs in general?) seems to be extremely sensitive to the viewing axis, especially vertical I think. The bottom part of the screen seemed to have some sort of ghosting or simply objects becoming screen depth, hard to explain without showing.
So now I need to test 3D blurays, then EDID, to decide if I keep the TV.
I hope I can come to you guys if I get stuck.
Thanks!
PS
There is a very noticeable mouse delay when I mess around in Windows with the TV as display. Is this what they call input lag? Is it supposed to be sooooo bad? Sorry, I'm such a noob, I really never owned a TV so I'm just learning everything at once.
Zappologist - make sure that your Desktop is set to 60 Hz, to minimize input lag (for example, 3DTV Play forces 1080p Desktop to 24 Hz, adding additional input lag). I suggest you start your TV assessment with the basic NVIDIA dynamic test pattern for 3D - not a 3D movie. If you do not own 3DTV Play, then you will need to use an EDID override to enable 3D display of this basic test 3D test pattern. By the way, passive displays ARE more sensitive to head placement while viewing 3D than active displays.
Zappologist - make sure that your Desktop is set to 60 Hz, to minimize input lag (for example, 3DTV Play forces 1080p Desktop to 24 Hz, adding additional input lag). I suggest you start your TV assessment with the basic NVIDIA dynamic test pattern for 3D - not a 3D movie. If you do not own 3DTV Play, then you will need to use an EDID override to enable 3D display of this basic test 3D test pattern. By the way, passive displays ARE more sensitive to head placement while viewing 3D than active displays.
THanks Whyme466
I had the desktop set to 60hz, but I guess I'm just used to th e1ms lag of TNs in general, and I'm probably sensitive to it.
I did the nvidia wizard test, and have already tested games with a pyramid emitter, and they look good.
Now I've just tried the EDID override, replaced the driver of my video card device (the monitor section) with the inf file and restated. Now the NCP says it's an ACER passive LCD in greyed out text, and there is the Optilmised for 3D VIsion logo next to it. Is this the expected result?
If yes, then I'm still doing something wrong, because both games and 3D screenshots are not good at all, some sort of heavy interlacing and ghosting.
In addition, after another restart, the visible screen size is reduced depending on what resolution I select. If I select high resolutions, I see the full screen, with small icons, but if I select 1080p or anything lower than the recommended 4k setting the visible image shrinks. This did not happen immediately after the override, not sure what's going on.
Appreciate any ideas, guy, sorry to take up your time, but I'm unexpectedly clueless ...
THanks Whyme466
I had the desktop set to 60hz, but I guess I'm just used to th e1ms lag of TNs in general, and I'm probably sensitive to it.
I did the nvidia wizard test, and have already tested games with a pyramid emitter, and they look good.
Now I've just tried the EDID override, replaced the driver of my video card device (the monitor section) with the inf file and restated. Now the NCP says it's an ACER passive LCD in greyed out text, and there is the Optilmised for 3D VIsion logo next to it. Is this the expected result?
If yes, then I'm still doing something wrong, because both games and 3D screenshots are not good at all, some sort of heavy interlacing and ghosting.
In addition, after another restart, the visible screen size is reduced depending on what resolution I select. If I select high resolutions, I see the full screen, with small icons, but if I select 1080p or anything lower than the recommended 4k setting the visible image shrinks. This did not happen immediately after the override, not sure what's going on.
Appreciate any ideas, guy, sorry to take up your time, but I'm unexpectedly clueless ...
From a couple of games I've tested, with the same settings and resolution, tridef is about 20% slower than regular stereo '3d Vision', but the interleaved 'Optimized for 3d vision' is about 20% slower than tridef...I.e interleaved passive 3d vision is seemingly about 40% slower than regular stereo 3d vision? This doesn't seem right to me, what could the cause of this be?
Input lag?
FPS?
Which game/games?
OS?
GPU?
Driver version?
Im talking in terms of fps.
Ive had the same regular 3d vision > tridef > optimized for 3d vision in two games i've tried (SWTOR and Dragon Age Origins)
Windows 10, 1080 SLI, latest driver (378.78)
I'm all ready happy LG UC970V 65" owner and edid hack user but I may purchase another tv for pc gaming only.
Other 4K TVs (like active Samsung displays) can work with some of the newer 3Dmigoto game fixes featuring support for TAB and SBS 3D display modes (use TAB, rather than SBS for better 3D).
By the way, I noted that my 55 in models had a bigger 3D FOV than my 65 in model, when viewed at each passive model's minimum 3D viewing distance - so my new sets have only been 55 in versions (for largest 3D display at lowest cost). If you get another TV, I highly recommend OLED 55e6 - while they are still available for sale. Note that c6 and e6 OLED models (2016) introduced new OLED screen-saver setting that must be disabled for stable 3D...
Almost all LG passive 4K 3DTV's will work with EDID overrides, there may be exceptions (especially for some OLED models) or may need specifically configured EDIDs. Also some Passive 4K 3DTV's from other brands may work with EDIDs (for example some Philips and Vestel models).
- 2016 LG LED and OLED models have the lowest input lag, faster than previous year's models. I'm not certain but I believe that 2016 LED models are a little faster than 2016 OLED models, but negligible difference.
Ofcourse OLED models have the best image quality and color accuracy, also again I'm not certain but I believe that they have less ghosting/crosstalk than LED models. LED models have terrible QC issues, especially with the FPR filter; you may need to RMA several LED TV's until finding a good one. QC on OLED models are a little better but not great.
I'm using an 2016 LG 55UH850V, replaced once, first one had mind blowingly bad crosstalk/ghosting, second one is very good but not perfect.
- 2015 and previous LED and OLED models have higher input lag, most 2015 models have acceptable values, but some models are really slow. I think QC on 2015 LED models' FPR filters are better than 2016 models. Also almost all LG 3DTV models before 2016 have more 3D options.
Most important one is manual interleaved mode, it has higher input lag than automatic mode but by this option you can play games in 3D at lower resolutions without any help from third party softwares.
So for gaming if you want faster response, buy a 2016 LED model, but if you want more 3D options, less restrictions and flexibility then buy a 2015 OLED model.
Asus Deluxe Gen3, Core i7 2700k@4.5Ghz, GTX 1080Ti, 16 GB RAM, Win 7 64bit
Samsung Pro 250 GB SSD, 4 TB WD Black (games)
Benq XL2720Z
I need your knowledgeable help on this 3D TV subject.
I’ve just bought an LG 55UH850V TV and I’m trying to put it to the test. I’ve spend a couple of hours reading through the different threads related to 3D gaming on TVs, and I think I’m getting the basic info down, but I have some questions. Hope you can assist, from your experience.
So, what I think I understand, please confirm:
1. It’s possible to play games in 3D Vision, but only at 720p. It requires 3D TV Play, or the pyramid connected. In my case, the emitter is embedded in the monitor, so I guess I need to buy a licence. Correct?
2. The above it’s generally considered a subpar experience, in favour of an EDID override which would allow the TV to use bigger resolutions, although with a performance hit. I have SLI GTX1080s, so some games might be ok. Correct?
3. Playing a 3D bluray to test the movie 3D might require additional software, such as Power DVD? I don’t have a console yet, so I’ll have to do it from PC or laptop.
What I don’t understand, and I get frustrated:
4. Is there any documentation here to explain the EDID override process? I found a couple of posts with some file links, but there’s just so much variation, color types, settings, and it’s never explained where the settings are and how to set them etc. On TV, on PC, in the .inf file … I’m a geek at heart, so the fact that I find all this arcane must be down to my growing age, or total lack of TV experience.
5. In one of the posts there is mention of panel/filter problems in similar TVs, which scares me a lot. Outlines being doubled, ghosting, blurring, etc. How can I test this to see if my TV has this issue? Will it appear in bluray 3D? Or only in 3D Vision Play? Or only in the EDID overrive scenario? For example, yesterday I played a rip of Great Gatsby, and there were line doubling, and crosstalk and other artifacts, but I put it down to the fact that it was a very poor rip (+2hours movie 3D rip, only about 2Gb). Now, after reading all this, I’m afraid that it may be the panel.
I know this is asking a lot, but I really tried to read everything I could before asking for help.
I would really appreciate it if people like Joker18, Whyme466, Lacuna or any others that have already experienced what I’m going through could provide some guidance. Maybe it can even serve as a more structured reply for future users, I could not find anything that provides assistance from scratch, for people who are new to 3D TVs.
Thank you in advance, guys!
Gigabyte Gaming 5 Z170X, i7-6700K @ 4.4ghz, Asus GTX 2080 ti Strix OC , 16gb DDR4 Corsair Vengence 2666, LG 60uh8500 and 49ub8500 passive 4K 3D EDID, Dell S2716DG.
5. Simplest test to see a faulty panel is using black/white crosstalk test and there's also rabbit test, there are videos on Youtube. If your panel is good than you'll see a uniform gray screen with black and white test, but if it's faulty than you'll see lots of big white spaces, not uniform gray and these white spaces will cause double images and abnormal crosstalk.
Asus Deluxe Gen3, Core i7 2700k@4.5Ghz, GTX 1080Ti, 16 GB RAM, Win 7 64bit
Samsung Pro 250 GB SSD, 4 TB WD Black (games)
Benq XL2720Z
I'll research some more and follow the links, but I'm trying to start small, and I just realise that I cannot test even basic stuff, this is infuriating.
I cannot play any 3D Blurays, I guess I really need a specific player. Is there any free one?
And I cannot test games, since my emitter is incorporated in the monitor.
The only thing I can test are 3D film rips, and all the movies I have tried have very bad 3D. Double image, elements that appear at the wrong depth especially when there is a change of scene/image, as if they don't know the correct depth and then they find it if the scene remains teh same, etc.
I'd like to determine if that's a problem of passive TVs in general, or whether I have a bad TV. And it seems I have no way of determining this until I buy Power DVD pro, a console, a separate nvidia pyramid/emitter, or attempting the EDID override directly.
If I connect the TV via HDMI to the new computer, while leaving the monitor with incorporated emitter plugged in, will this trigger the 3D TV Play software? Or I need to install it first as a trial anyway?
I'm at my wits' ends here, for the moment I'm abandoning the idea of having this TV as my main gaming setup, I'd like to at least determine whether it's faulty or not. Any idea how I could test this the easiest? The 3D of rips looks really messed up. Sorry for the rant.
I've seen on the net something called 5Kplayer, anyone know if that works?
I've reluctantly opened my only Nvidia kit I had bought for rainy days, and I've been able to test 3D games by connecting the pyramid to the PC. The ghosting is terrible, much worse than my ASUS display, is tht normal for TVs? But now it seems better, i've discovered that if I don't set the resolution in game to 720p the 3D and ghosting is horrible so that was the main cause I think. Another cause was the fact that I had my TV on the groud so my eyes were very far off middle axis. This TV (or passive TVs in general?) seems to be extremely sensitive to the viewing axis, especially vertical I think. The bottom part of the screen seemed to have some sort of ghosting or simply objects becoming screen depth, hard to explain without showing.
So now I need to test 3D blurays, then EDID, to decide if I keep the TV.
I hope I can come to you guys if I get stuck.
Thanks!
PS
There is a very noticeable mouse delay when I mess around in Windows with the TV as display. Is this what they call input lag? Is it supposed to be sooooo bad? Sorry, I'm such a noob, I really never owned a TV so I'm just learning everything at once.
I had the desktop set to 60hz, but I guess I'm just used to th e1ms lag of TNs in general, and I'm probably sensitive to it.
I did the nvidia wizard test, and have already tested games with a pyramid emitter, and they look good.
Now I've just tried the EDID override, replaced the driver of my video card device (the monitor section) with the inf file and restated. Now the NCP says it's an ACER passive LCD in greyed out text, and there is the Optilmised for 3D VIsion logo next to it. Is this the expected result?
If yes, then I'm still doing something wrong, because both games and 3D screenshots are not good at all, some sort of heavy interlacing and ghosting.
In addition, after another restart, the visible screen size is reduced depending on what resolution I select. If I select high resolutions, I see the full screen, with small icons, but if I select 1080p or anything lower than the recommended 4k setting the visible image shrinks. This did not happen immediately after the override, not sure what's going on.
Appreciate any ideas, guy, sorry to take up your time, but I'm unexpectedly clueless ...