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4K is possible on 4K 3DHD TVs. There are active Samsung or Passive LG TVs to choose from. They are no longer manufactured and must be purchased used. In either case, you must use a hack/workaround for 4K 3D. Such as forcing the display to use Nvidia's Optimized for GeForce via an EDID or id override. I'm not personally familiar with the intricacies or models numbers. But you might start [url=https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/943900/3d-vision/search-information-about-edid-for-3dvision-on-lg-oled-4k-55ef950v-55ef9500-/6/?offset=88#5069058]here[/url] AFAIK, there are no 4K 3D monitors available. The new [url=https://www.anandtech.com/show/13765/hp-at-ces-2019-omen-x-emperium-65-bfg-display]Omen[/url] or [url=https://www.anandtech.com/show/13845/dell-at-ces-2019-alienware-55inch-4k-120-hz-oled-gaming-monitor-showcased]Dell Alienware[/url] might work, but probably not.
4K is possible on 4K 3DHD TVs. There are active Samsung or Passive LG TVs to choose from. They are no longer manufactured and must be purchased used.

In either case, you must use a hack/workaround for 4K 3D. Such as forcing the display to use Nvidia's Optimized for GeForce via an EDID or id override.

I'm not personally familiar with the intricacies or models numbers. But you might start here

AFAIK, there are no 4K 3D monitors available. The new Omen or Dell Alienware might work, but probably not.

#31
Posted 03/20/2019 10:41 AM   
[quote="cyrilp2"]My 2080ti should be delivered today, i will try the game in 4K 3D and will tell you. i'm downloading the game right now, does it include a benchmark tool ?[/quote] What 4K 3D? Passive?
cyrilp2 said:My 2080ti should be delivered today, i will try the game in 4K 3D and will tell you.

i'm downloading the game right now, does it include a benchmark tool ?

What 4K 3D? Passive?

#32
Posted 05/15/2019 08:22 AM   
[quote="D-Man11"]4K is possible on 4K 3DHD TVs. There are active Samsung or Passive LG TVs to choose from. They are no longer manufactured and must be purchased used. In either case, you must use a hack/workaround for 4K 3D. Such as forcing the display to use Nvidia's Optimized for GeForce via an EDID or id override. I'm not personally familiar with the intricacies or models numbers. But you might start [url=https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/943900/3d-vision/search-information-about-edid-for-3dvision-on-lg-oled-4k-55ef950v-55ef9500-/6/?offset=88#5069058]here[/url] AFAIK, there are no 4K 3D monitors available. The new [url=https://www.anandtech.com/show/13765/hp-at-ces-2019-omen-x-emperium-65-bfg-display]Omen[/url] or [url=https://www.anandtech.com/show/13845/dell-at-ces-2019-alienware-55inch-4k-120-hz-oled-gaming-monitor-showcased]Dell Alienware[/url] might work, but probably not. [/quote] There is no 4k with 120 Hz and responce time around 1 ms exist in the whole world. Not the 4K 3DHD TV. All they can do is FHD 3D with 24/30 Hz per eye. But in 4K the can 60 Hz. And 30 Hz with HDR on. Because of bandwith and HDMI limitations. I have beamer sony vpl 360 es for over 5000 $ US. It is native 4K beamer, not afaik. Yes - beamer cann FHD 3D from blu ray and apscale to 4K. It is no 4K indeed, but sharpenes is better as by FHD.
D-Man11 said:4K is possible on 4K 3DHD TVs. There are active Samsung or Passive LG TVs to choose from. They are no longer manufactured and must be purchased used.

In either case, you must use a hack/workaround for 4K 3D. Such as forcing the display to use Nvidia's Optimized for GeForce via an EDID or id override.

I'm not personally familiar with the intricacies or models numbers. But you might start here

AFAIK, there are no 4K 3D monitors available. The new Omen or Dell Alienware might work, but probably not.

There is no 4k with 120 Hz and responce time around 1 ms exist in the whole world.
Not the 4K 3DHD TV. All they can do is FHD 3D with 24/30 Hz per eye. But in 4K the can 60 Hz.
And 30 Hz with HDR on. Because of bandwith and HDMI limitations.
I have beamer sony vpl 360 es for over 5000 $ US. It is native 4K beamer, not afaik.
Yes - beamer cann FHD 3D from blu ray and apscale to 4K. It is no 4K indeed, but sharpenes is better as by FHD.

#33
Posted 05/15/2019 08:30 AM   
[quote="o.kozlov2"]There is no 4k with 120 Hz and responce time around 1 ms exist in the whole world[/quote] Funny thing, no where did I say that they were capable of a 1 ms response time.
o.kozlov2 said:There is no 4k with 120 Hz and responce time around 1 ms exist in the whole world


Funny thing, no where did I say that they were capable of a 1 ms response time.

#34
Posted 05/15/2019 11:03 AM   
[quote="D-Man11"][quote="o.kozlov2"]There is no 4k with 120 Hz and responce time around 1 ms exist in the whole world[/quote] Funny thing, no where did I say that they were capable of a 1 ms response time.[/quote] Yes, you didn’t :) But this is the most important spec for real 3D without crosstalk’s. I bought for test the newest msi 35" monitor with 144 Hz and 1440p, but VA Panel with 4ms GtG response time and 3D after edid this monitor is total mess. What i'm saying is - it is no 4K 3D possible at all. All postings about 4k 3D is not correct. Yes – some previous 4K HDTV’s can 3D, but only in FHD resolution and obviously not in 120 Hz, just 60Hz -> 30 frame per eye – for 3D blu ray and some games with actually 30 fps, like Lara Croft. And yes it is playable. However, the asus pg27q or similar monitor with TN+ and real 120 Hz -> 60 frames per eye in 3D – this is a real 3D Vision. It’s no exist ever 4k HDTV or 4K monitors, they can do the same in 4K resolution, because maybe they can 120 Hz, may be also 240 Hz, but response time of the pixels is much more than 1 or 2 ms and this make active 3D unpassable. More the this – it is no Monitors larger as 27” exists with 3D Vision. Also newest expensive 4k ASUS PG27UQ can not 3d Vision in 4K resolution.
D-Man11 said:
o.kozlov2 said:There is no 4k with 120 Hz and responce time around 1 ms exist in the whole world


Funny thing, no where did I say that they were capable of a 1 ms response time.

Yes, you didn’t :)
But this is the most important spec for real 3D without crosstalk’s. I bought for test the newest msi 35" monitor with 144 Hz and 1440p, but VA Panel with 4ms GtG response time and 3D after edid this monitor is total mess.
What i'm saying is - it is no 4K 3D possible at all. All postings about 4k 3D is not correct.
Yes – some previous 4K HDTV’s can 3D, but only in FHD resolution and obviously not in 120 Hz, just 60Hz -> 30 frame per eye – for 3D blu ray and some games with actually 30 fps, like Lara Croft. And yes it is playable. However, the asus pg27q or similar monitor with TN+ and real 120 Hz -> 60 frames per eye in 3D – this is a real 3D Vision. It’s no exist ever 4k HDTV or 4K monitors, they can do the same in 4K resolution, because maybe they can 120 Hz, may be also 240 Hz, but response time of the pixels is much more than 1 or 2 ms and this make active 3D unpassable. More the this – it is no Monitors larger as 27” exists with 3D Vision. Also newest expensive 4k ASUS PG27UQ can not 3d Vision in 4K resolution.

#35
Posted 05/15/2019 11:30 AM   
Well Line Interleaved is half frames. 120 half frames = 60 full frames sent, well within the bandwidth limitation. The half frames are packed together and sent as one. So it is indeed 120 individual frames when in interlaced mode. Progressive is limited to 60 Full Frames. You are confusing the two.
Well Line Interleaved is half frames. 120 half frames = 60 full frames sent, well within the bandwidth limitation. The half frames are packed together and sent as one. So it is indeed 120 individual frames when in interlaced mode. Progressive is limited to 60 Full Frames. You are confusing the two.

#36
Posted 05/15/2019 11:36 AM   
[quote="D-Man11"] In either case, you must use a hack/workaround for 4K 3D. Such as forcing the display to use Nvidia's Optimized for GeForce via an EDID or id override. here[/url] [/quote] I have tryed this. Yes 3D 4K but only 30 Frames per eye and crosstalk’s
D-Man11 said:

In either case, you must use a hack/workaround for 4K 3D. Such as forcing the display to use Nvidia's Optimized for GeForce via an EDID or id override.
here[/url]



I have tryed this. Yes 3D 4K but only 30 Frames per eye and crosstalk’s

#37
Posted 05/15/2019 11:38 AM   
[quote="D-Man11"]Well Line Interleaved is half frames. 120 half frames = 60 full frames sent, well within the bandwidth limitation. The half frames are packed together and sent as one. So it is indeed 120 individual frames when in interlaced mode. Progressive is limited to 60 Full Frames. You are confusing the two.[/quote] this is the Problem - of course i'm talking about progressive full Frames. in Action - the game run's only with max 30 fps in 3D in 4K with makes is unplayable
D-Man11 said:Well Line Interleaved is half frames. 120 half frames = 60 full frames sent, well within the bandwidth limitation. The half frames are packed together and sent as one. So it is indeed 120 individual frames when in interlaced mode. Progressive is limited to 60 Full Frames. You are confusing the two.


this is the Problem - of course i'm talking about progressive full Frames.
in Action - the game run's only with max 30 fps in 3D in 4K with makes is unplayable

#38
Posted 05/15/2019 11:41 AM   
[quote="D-Man11"] But you might start [url=https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/943900/3d-vision/search-information-about-edid-for-3dvision-on-lg-oled-4k-55ef950v-55ef9500-/6/?offset=88#5069058]here[/url] [/quote] LG OLED55C6P TV - Passive 3D - yes. But we talking about active 3D with 120 full Frames -> 60p on each eye or?
D-Man11 said: But you might start here



LG OLED55C6P TV - Passive 3D - yes. But we talking about active 3D with 120 full Frames -> 60p on each eye or?

#39
Posted 05/15/2019 11:45 AM   
What in the fuck are you talking about. I simply answered this post [quote="CHip238"]What is 4k 3D? How? Hardware?[/quote] No where did he ask if he could do 4K at 120Hz Full Frames with a 1 ms response time. Active 4K 3D HDTVs can do Checkerboard Interlaced at 120 frames. I have no idea why you even quoted me. if you were simply reporting the frame rates you were able to achieve with your display. [quote="o.kozlov2"]What i'm saying is - it is no 4K 3D possible at all. All postings about 4k 3D is not correct.[/quote] Right, everyone is sadly mistaken and fucking clueless because they think they are playing in 4K when indeed they are not. What a bunch of dumbasses according to you. I personally think it was PBKAC on your part
What in the fuck are you talking about.

I simply answered this post

CHip238 said:What is 4k 3D? How? Hardware?


No where did he ask if he could do 4K at 120Hz Full Frames with a 1 ms response time.

Active 4K 3D HDTVs can do Checkerboard Interlaced at 120 frames.

I have no idea why you even quoted me. if you were simply reporting the frame rates you were able to achieve with your display.

o.kozlov2 said:What i'm saying is - it is no 4K 3D possible at all. All postings about 4k 3D is not correct.

Right, everyone is sadly mistaken and fucking clueless because they think they are playing in 4K when indeed they are not. What a bunch of dumbasses according to you.

I personally think it was PBKAC on your part

#40
Posted 05/15/2019 12:00 PM   
[quote="D-Man11"]What in the fuck are you talking about. Active 4K 3D HDTVs can do Checkerboard Interlaced at 120 frames. [/quote] Agreed. what about Quality this 3D? As i understand it - Checkerboard - is with much lower vertical Resolution. What the point of this 3D then? I am asking, because i was Looking for Substitution of my ASUS 3D Vision monitor 27" with some Monitor or HDTV with 4K Resolution and possibility 4K active 3D in games without loss of Quality and with 60 Frames per eye.
D-Man11 said:What in the fuck are you talking about.

Active 4K 3D HDTVs can do Checkerboard Interlaced at 120 frames.


Agreed. what about Quality this 3D? As i understand it - Checkerboard - is with much lower vertical Resolution.
What the point of this 3D then?
I am asking, because i was Looking for Substitution of my ASUS 3D Vision monitor 27" with some Monitor or HDTV with 4K Resolution and possibility 4K active 3D in games without loss of Quality and with 60 Frames per eye.

#41
Posted 05/15/2019 12:12 PM   
[quote="o.kozlov2"]I am asking[/quote] No where did I see you asking, just telling. If you are in need of answers, have a look here https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/824274/3d-vision/guide-how-to-search-the-3d-vision-sub-forum-more-efficiently-/
o.kozlov2 said:I am asking


No where did I see you asking, just telling.

If you are in need of answers, have a look here


https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/824274/3d-vision/guide-how-to-search-the-3d-vision-sub-forum-more-efficiently-/

#42
Posted 05/15/2019 12:16 PM   
[quote="D-Man11"] I’m really sorry. Maybe i was wrong. And do not understand this Right. From my personal experience with FHD ASUS 27” and 144 Hz an 2 ms – nVidia 3d Vision quality was 4* from 5*. Little crosstalk’s, hallos and so on. After getting next ASUS 27” but 1440p and 1 ms response time and 144 Hz (120 Hz in 3d) the quality of 3D is much better. Maby TN matrix is faster and better, I don’t know. And now, with no angry, I’m asking you about passible suggestion – if exist some solution with 4K and 32”+? Maybe you now better as I, what can it be. An old Samsung 4k HDTV with active 3D? Thanks for answer in advance.
D-Man11 said:

I’m really sorry. Maybe i was wrong. And do not understand this Right.
From my personal experience with FHD ASUS 27” and 144 Hz an 2 ms – nVidia 3d Vision quality was 4* from 5*. Little crosstalk’s, hallos and so on.
After getting next ASUS 27” but 1440p and 1 ms response time and 144 Hz (120 Hz in 3d) the quality of 3D is much better. Maby TN matrix is faster and better, I don’t know.
And now, with no angry, I’m asking you about passible suggestion – if exist some solution with 4K and 32”+? Maybe you now better as I, what can it be. An old Samsung 4k HDTV with active 3D?
Thanks for answer in advance.

#43
Posted 05/15/2019 12:24 PM   
A number of us have LG E6/C6 passive OLED 3D TVs (either 55 in or 65 in), a third gen OLED TV from LG - and the last supporting LG's superb FPR-based 3D (low ghosting, lightweight passive 3D glasses), but more expensive to produce. The input lag is around 34 ms, much lower than LG's prior gen OLED lag. The lag is not ideal, but I have never found it to be an issue, even with fast reaction time games like the Dark Souls series. The quality of color - including black levels - and overall brightness more than compensate for lag concerns... Passive 4K 3D runs at 60 Hz but, unfortunately, every other line is thrown away to support the line-interleaved format (similar loss for SBS and TaB formats). With 4K native resolution, many current games will not perform anywhere near this 60 Hz limit, however. For example, with my i9-9900X @4.5 GHz/32 GB/2080Ti/multiple SSDs, Shadow of the Tomb Raider still dipped to 22 fps during in-game performance testing (still very playable, superb visuals with HDR).
A number of us have LG E6/C6 passive OLED 3D TVs (either 55 in or 65 in), a third gen OLED TV from LG - and the last supporting LG's superb FPR-based 3D (low ghosting, lightweight passive 3D glasses), but more expensive to produce. The input lag is around 34 ms, much lower than LG's prior gen OLED lag. The lag is not ideal, but I have never found it to be an issue, even with fast reaction time games like the Dark Souls series. The quality of color - including black levels - and overall brightness more than compensate for lag concerns...

Passive 4K 3D runs at 60 Hz but, unfortunately, every other line is thrown away to support the line-interleaved format (similar loss for SBS and TaB formats). With 4K native resolution, many current games will not perform anywhere near this 60 Hz limit, however. For example, with my i9-9900X @4.5 GHz/32 GB/2080Ti/multiple SSDs, Shadow of the Tomb Raider still dipped to 22 fps during in-game performance testing (still very playable, superb visuals with HDR).

#44
Posted 05/15/2019 05:13 PM   
[quote="whyme466"]A number of us have LG E6/C6 passive OLED 3D TVs (either 55 in or 65 in), a third gen OLED TV from LG - and the last supporting LG's superb FPR-based 3D (low ghosting, lightweight 3D glasses), but more expensive to produce. The input lag is around 34 ms, much lower than LG's prior gen OLED lag. The lag is not ideal, but I have never found it to be an issue, even with fast reaction time games like the Dark Souls series. The quality of color - including black levels - and overall brightness more than compensate for lag concerns... Passive 4K 3D runs at 60 Hz but, unfortunately, every other line is thrown away to support the line-interleaved format (similar loss for SBS and TaB formats). With 4K native resolution, many current games will not perform anywhere near this 60 Hz limit, however. For example, with my i9-9900X @4.5 GHz/32 GB/2080Ti/multiple SSDs, Shadow of the Tomb Raider still dipped to 22 fps during in-game performance testing.[/quote] That poor performance in tomb raider is mostly due to the 3 core 3d vision bug. I've been limited by this bug for many games lately and it's really making gaming at 4k impossible. I have an older system then yours with a titan x and also get dips into the low 20s but if you look a usage, the gpu is performing way under 100%. 3d vision bottleneck sucks and they never fixed it. That's why i didn't bother with 2080ti for 3d.
whyme466 said:A number of us have LG E6/C6 passive OLED 3D TVs (either 55 in or 65 in), a third gen OLED TV from LG - and the last supporting LG's superb FPR-based 3D (low ghosting, lightweight 3D glasses), but more expensive to produce. The input lag is around 34 ms, much lower than LG's prior gen OLED lag. The lag is not ideal, but I have never found it to be an issue, even with fast reaction time games like the Dark Souls series. The quality of color - including black levels - and overall brightness more than compensate for lag concerns...

Passive 4K 3D runs at 60 Hz but, unfortunately, every other line is thrown away to support the line-interleaved format (similar loss for SBS and TaB formats). With 4K native resolution, many current games will not perform anywhere near this 60 Hz limit, however. For example, with my i9-9900X @4.5 GHz/32 GB/2080Ti/multiple SSDs, Shadow of the Tomb Raider still dipped to 22 fps during in-game performance testing.


That poor performance in tomb raider is mostly due to the 3 core 3d vision bug. I've been limited by this bug for many games lately and it's really making gaming at 4k impossible. I have an older system then yours with a titan x and also get dips into the low 20s but if you look a usage, the gpu is performing way under 100%. 3d vision bottleneck sucks and they never fixed it. That's why i didn't bother with 2080ti for 3d.

#45
Posted 05/15/2019 05:20 PM   
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