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I can't stop playing, this game is so sick. The 3D is amazing and runs well even on an older laptop GTX 580m card. Nvidia and the developers have optimized his game very well. This is more like it from Nvidia, finally getting back to proper support for 3D vision. Hope to see more titles like this in the future. No question having good 3D support sell more copies of these games. I bought it mainly because people on this forum were saying how great the 3D was. I hope the developers are realizing this and we see more of it in future games.
I can't stop playing, this game is so sick. The 3D is amazing and runs well even on an older laptop GTX 580m card. Nvidia and the developers have optimized his game very well.

This is more like it from Nvidia, finally getting back to proper support for 3D vision. Hope to see more titles like this in the future.

No question having good 3D support sell more copies of these games. I bought it mainly because people on this forum were saying how great the 3D was. I hope the developers are realizing this and we see more of it in future games.

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Posted 05/20/2013 01:33 PM   
[quote="DHR"]Totally agree Joohan... i also playing stealth (80% of the time), but also have my machine gun for extra fun. Some chapters are just amazing, all the detail around and monsters (water, air, land) that try to catch you. With 100% depth and increase convergence i have a great sense of depth (without the mask)....with the mask the sense is reduced a little, i think is the feeling that you have with a glass in your face.[/quote] I get good sense of depth too with 100% depth and a little increase in convergence (can't increase it that much though because it breaks the base of the weapons very quickly if you increase convergence too much from the default and I find the default convergence pretty good as it is), but I could do with just a little more depth, but it's still very good so I'm not complaining at all. Too bad the registry depth hack doesn't seem to work. I found that playing with FOV at 70 works well for me and I haven't seen any broken animations with the hands or anything like that and the FOV is also still low enough to not get the "fish eye" effect. Anyone know what these two lines in the user.cfg do btw: [b]r_dbg_stereo_separation_base 0[/b], [b]r_dbg_stereo_separation_zoom 0[/b]?
DHR said:Totally agree Joohan... i also playing stealth (80% of the time), but also have my machine gun for extra fun. Some chapters are just amazing, all the detail around and monsters (water, air, land) that try to catch you.

With 100% depth and increase convergence i have a great sense of depth (without the mask)....with the mask the sense is reduced a little, i think is the feeling that you have with a glass in your face.


I get good sense of depth too with 100% depth and a little increase in convergence (can't increase it that much though because it breaks the base of the weapons very quickly if you increase convergence too much from the default and I find the default convergence pretty good as it is), but I could do with just a little more depth, but it's still very good so I'm not complaining at all. Too bad the registry depth hack doesn't seem to work. I found that playing with FOV at 70 works well for me and I haven't seen any broken animations with the hands or anything like that and the FOV is also still low enough to not get the "fish eye" effect. Anyone know what these two lines in the user.cfg do btw: r_dbg_stereo_separation_base 0, r_dbg_stereo_separation_zoom 0?

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Posted 05/20/2013 03:21 PM   
[quote="DHR"]Also removing/renaming the intro video produce that game hangs...so i have to put back....strange![/quote] I was curious about that, just didn't try it out ... although I think I'd rather stare at a black screen then watch the 2D part of the intro. :D [quote="Joohan"]I find myself reloading a checkpoint and playing certain parts over and over again, just because it's just so much fun and because there's so many different ways to go about your business[/quote] And this is why some games take me so damn long to finish. I don't know how many [s]hours[/s] [s]days[/s] [s]weeks[/s] [s]months[/s] years I've wasted in games just trying stuff out only to load up a previous save. :D [quote="Joohan"]I found that playing with FOV at 70 works well for me and I haven't seen any broken animations with the hands or anything like that and the FOV is also still low enough to not get the "fish eye" effect.[/quote] How do you change the FOV and what's the default set at? I found in Dishonored that 90-100% worked really well for my setup.
DHR said:Also removing/renaming the intro video produce that game hangs...so i have to put back....strange!

I was curious about that, just didn't try it out ... although I think I'd rather stare at a black screen then watch the 2D part of the intro. :D

Joohan said:I find myself reloading a checkpoint and playing certain parts over and over again, just because it's just so much fun and because there's so many different ways to go about your business

And this is why some games take me so damn long to finish. I don't know how many hours days weeks months years I've wasted in games just trying stuff out only to load up a previous save. :D

Joohan said:I found that playing with FOV at 70 works well for me and I haven't seen any broken animations with the hands or anything like that and the FOV is also still low enough to not get the "fish eye" effect.

How do you change the FOV and what's the default set at? I found in Dishonored that 90-100% worked really well for my setup.
Posted 05/20/2013 04:40 PM   
At least for me removing/renaming intro video cause the game hangs...it's like needs that stupid intro video to start correctly. Buuuuuu.....Moderators in 3dvisionlive.com delete my lap dance screenshots (the one with the girl showing the boobs)...it's was a nice screenshot....btw devs puts some effort in the boobs movements. For FOV edit the user.cfg file located in %LOCALAPPDATA%\4A Games\Metro LL\ r_base_fov command.
At least for me removing/renaming intro video cause the game hangs...it's like needs that stupid intro video to start correctly.

Buuuuuu.....Moderators in 3dvisionlive.com delete my lap dance screenshots (the one with the girl showing the boobs)...it's was a nice screenshot....btw devs puts some effort in the boobs movements.


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Posted 05/20/2013 06:32 PM   
[quote="DHR"]Buuuuuu.....Moderators in 3dvisionlive.com delete my lap dance screenshots (the one with the girl showing the boobs)...it's was a nice screenshot....btw devs puts some effort in the boobs movements.[/quote] Yeah they want to keep the site classy ... by prompting half naked [i]real[/i] women all over it instead. We got your "3D Vision Girl of the Week" right here! Lol. I wonder if I have to enable Advanced PhysX for those or not ... we need a 3D comparison video. Lap dance with ... Lap dance without. :D
DHR said:Buuuuuu.....Moderators in 3dvisionlive.com delete my lap dance screenshots (the one with the girl showing the boobs)...it's was a nice screenshot....btw devs puts some effort in the boobs movements.


Yeah they want to keep the site classy ... by prompting half naked real women all over it instead. We got your "3D Vision Girl of the Week" right here! Lol.

I wonder if I have to enable Advanced PhysX for those or not ... we need a 3D comparison video. Lap dance with ... Lap dance without. :D
Posted 05/20/2013 10:47 PM   
[quote="DHR"]At least for me removing/renaming intro video cause the game hangs...it's like needs that stupid intro video to start correctly.[/quote]Since you guys are having trouble, I'll just leave it on. I turn up the volume and listen to that great guitar. Reminds me of The XX. [quote="DHR"]the user.cfg file located in %LOCALAPPDATA%\4A Games\Metro LL\ r_base_fov command.[/quote]BTW, this is a [i]vertical [/i]field of view number, not horizontal. The new strategy seems to use vertical as a way to avoid widescreen problems. Use this calculator to find your number of choice: [url]http://www.rjdown.co.uk/projects/bfbc2/fovcalculator.php[/url] The default is really tight at about 70 degrees for widescreen, if I remember correctly. This was one of the few times it actually bugged me during play.
DHR said:At least for me removing/renaming intro video cause the game hangs...it's like needs that stupid intro video to start correctly.
Since you guys are having trouble, I'll just leave it on. I turn up the volume and listen to that great guitar. Reminds me of The XX.

DHR said:the user.cfg file located in %LOCALAPPDATA%\4A Games\Metro LL\
r_base_fov command.
BTW, this is a vertical field of view number, not horizontal. The new strategy seems to use vertical as a way to avoid widescreen problems. Use this calculator to find your number of choice:

http://www.rjdown.co.uk/projects/bfbc2/fovcalculator.php

The default is really tight at about 70 degrees for widescreen, if I remember correctly. This was one of the few times it actually bugged me during play.

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Posted 05/21/2013 12:23 AM   
[quote="TsaebehT"] I wonder if I have to enable Advanced PhysX for those or not ... we need a 3D comparison video. Lap dance with ... Lap dance without. :D[/quote] I saw the picture of the "bare" woman. looks out of place from what I remember in Metro2033. i found it really odd so I youtubed the lady scenes. It just felt like those people who mod anime characters into skyrim kind of odd. Im not being a prude or anything but I mean the characters just seemed so off. Neither in Witcher 1/2/Dishonored did I feel it was out of place having brothels. But in metro last light you have dirty run down survivalist men in the a red carpet whore house that looks more like a theater. Like even the floor boards were run down in areas and dirty like you'd expect. But they had Red Fabric clean and ironed everywhere. The burlesque house was actually missing a door. And outside you could literally see the smoke/dirt/dust in air. But the ladies were conditioned, died hair, lipstick, makeup, clean clothes and I assume.... payed in ammo. I havent been reading reviews since I knew I was getting it regardles but maybe others mentioned it. Was it just me?
TsaebehT said:
I wonder if I have to enable Advanced PhysX for those or not ... we need a 3D comparison video. Lap dance with ... Lap dance without. :D


I saw the picture of the "bare" woman. looks out of place from what I remember in Metro2033. i found it really odd so I youtubed the lady scenes. It just felt like those people who mod anime characters into skyrim kind of odd. Im not being a prude or anything but I mean the characters just seemed so off. Neither in Witcher 1/2/Dishonored did I feel it was out of place having brothels.
But in metro last light you have dirty run down survivalist men in the a red carpet whore house that looks more like a theater. Like even the floor boards were run down in areas and dirty like you'd expect. But they had Red Fabric clean and ironed everywhere. The burlesque house was actually missing a door. And outside you could literally see the smoke/dirt/dust in air. But the ladies were conditioned, died hair, lipstick, makeup, clean clothes and I assume.... payed in ammo.
I havent been reading reviews since I knew I was getting it regardles but maybe others mentioned it. Was it just me?

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Posted 05/21/2013 01:00 AM   
I haven't seen any lapdancing scenes yet, but I'd genuinely be surprised if they feel out of place and thought it was silly that certain reviews criticsed the game for it. Poverty, social breakdown and prostitution go side by side. In a seedy place like the Metro where life is cheap, survival is hard, and employment options are extremely limited, it would be extremely unrealistic if prostitution and stripping wasn't around every corner. I'd never visit a strip club in real life (just like I wouldn't shoot guys in real life), but its inclusion in Metro Last Light seems perfectly sensible to me. Though the implementation, the way you described it eqzitara, does sound a bit weird.
I haven't seen any lapdancing scenes yet, but I'd genuinely be surprised if they feel out of place and thought it was silly that certain reviews criticsed the game for it.

Poverty, social breakdown and prostitution go side by side. In a seedy place like the Metro where life is cheap, survival is hard, and employment options are extremely limited, it would be extremely unrealistic if prostitution and stripping wasn't around every corner.

I'd never visit a strip club in real life (just like I wouldn't shoot guys in real life), but its inclusion in Metro Last Light seems perfectly sensible to me. Though the implementation, the way you described it eqzitara, does sound a bit weird.

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Posted 05/21/2013 01:44 AM   
Right, like even if it was a "sex house" rather then "strip club". I wouldnt have a problem since it that would make more sense. Like did you see the movie Taken[Deadwood is another good example]? Thats what I'd expect. If not its basically girls are on drugs, curtain dividers, dirt everytwhere, hard men who want to do there job and leave. Metro 2033 wasn't a great shooter by any means. It was a great world with a great atmosphere. Im not gonna lie. Im a bit turned off *ironic* to return to game. EDIT: HOLY CRAP. I couldnt put my finger on why it was EXTREMELY strange[more so]. What temperature is it in Moscow?COLD. What temperature is it in Moscow afrer a Nuclear Holocaust?. Cold enough that the sun is blocked out, cold enough that men wear at least two layers[indoors], cold enough that its almost always snowing. But women who aren't even working are walking around in nothing. Id think they want to resort to swithching from Stripper to prostitute just to survive. Even in Enemy at Gates[yes, i know extenuating circumstances. But everyone sleeping around them was fully clothed in a dog pile] they even had sex with clothes on. That girl wasnt giving a lap dance. She was trying to survive via friction. /end rant.
Right, like even if it was a "sex house" rather then "strip club". I wouldnt have a problem since it that would make more sense. Like did you see the movie Taken[Deadwood is another good example]? Thats what I'd expect. If not its basically girls are on drugs, curtain dividers, dirt everytwhere, hard men who want to do there job and leave.
Metro 2033 wasn't a great shooter by any means. It was a great world with a great atmosphere. Im not gonna lie. Im a bit turned off *ironic* to return to game.

EDIT: HOLY CRAP. I couldnt put my finger on why it was EXTREMELY strange[more so]. What temperature is it in Moscow?COLD. What temperature is it in Moscow afrer a Nuclear Holocaust?. Cold enough that the sun is blocked out, cold enough that men wear at least two layers[indoors], cold enough that its almost always snowing. But women who aren't even working are walking around in nothing. Id think they want to resort to swithching from Stripper to prostitute just to survive. Even in Enemy at Gates[yes, i know extenuating circumstances. But everyone sleeping around them was fully clothed in a dog pile] they even had sex with clothes on. That girl wasnt giving a lap dance. She was trying to survive via friction.

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Posted 05/21/2013 01:48 AM   
Love it, but it just pisses me off that they didn't expose the individual graphical settings. I want "very high", but not blur (3D does enough of that on its own) and not depth of field or analytical AA. To be able to mod it would have been nice to as there are definitely the usual 1000 minor things i'd like to tweak to my personal preferences... With the substandard working conditions 4A had and im sure long, long, long hours, no doubt against some peoples wishes, im doubt i'll be complaining about it loudly on their forums though.
Love it, but it just pisses me off that they didn't expose the individual graphical settings. I want "very high", but not blur (3D does enough of that on its own) and not depth of field or analytical AA. To be able to mod it would have been nice to as there are definitely the usual 1000 minor things i'd like to tweak to my personal preferences...

With the substandard working conditions 4A had and im sure long, long, long hours, no doubt against some peoples wishes, im doubt i'll be complaining about it loudly on their forums though.

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Posted 05/21/2013 02:02 AM   
[quote="Libertine"]Love it, but it just pisses me off that they didn't expose the individual graphical settings. I want "very high", but not blur (3D does enough of that on its own) and not depth of field or analytical AA.[/quote] Do you mean motion blur? Because there's a separate control for it. As for AAA, why would you not want it? It does a great job at getting rid of jaggies with, allegedly at least, very little performance cost.
Libertine said:Love it, but it just pisses me off that they didn't expose the individual graphical settings. I want "very high", but not blur (3D does enough of that on its own) and not depth of field or analytical AA.
Do you mean motion blur? Because there's a separate control for it. As for AAA, why would you not want it? It does a great job at getting rid of jaggies with, allegedly at least, very little performance cost.

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Posted 05/21/2013 03:54 AM   
I tried turning the blur off using the .ini setting i think, but i still see it when im panning around. I should double check. AAA blurs the screen, not good on low DPI displays like mine: 46" at 1 meter. Combine that with a half resolution display and to me its way too much blur. I've never liked it, but it probably has a lot to do with my particular viewing setup.
I tried turning the blur off using the .ini setting i think, but i still see it when im panning around. I should double check. AAA blurs the screen, not good on low DPI displays like mine: 46" at 1 meter. Combine that with a half resolution display and to me its way too much blur. I've never liked it, but it probably has a lot to do with my particular viewing setup.

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Posted 05/21/2013 05:07 AM   
Turning off the "motion blur" setting in the in-game video options doesn't get rid of blur for you?
Turning off the "motion blur" setting in the in-game video options doesn't get rid of blur for you?

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Posted 05/21/2013 05:38 AM   
I think he is talking about the "blurry" FXAA . It is default enabled and I have not found a way to turn it off yet.
I think he is talking about the "blurry" FXAA . It is default enabled and I have not found a way to turn it off yet.

Posted 05/21/2013 12:19 PM   
[quote="TsaebehT"]Yeah they want to keep the site classy ... by prompting half naked [i]real[/i] women all over it instead. We got your "3D Vision Girl of the Week" right here! Lol. I wonder if I have to enable Advanced PhysX for those or not ... we need a 3D comparison video. Lap dance with ... Lap dance without. :D[/quote] And if we have lucky, maybe we can see some nipples with tessellation...jeje The lap dance scene is not mandatory to continue in game, in fact, the previous scene and why you end alone in a room with that girl is just fine....then you have 2 choices: a) Go chase the bad guys right the way (no lap dance for Artyom) b) Let the bad guys wait 5 minutes and pay for a lap dance. It's an apocalyptic world, the guy was all day walking through dark tunnels and fight monsters.... choice b) is a smart choice, in fact i don't know why Artyom don't pay a full round of bullets for more than an lap dance and another 15 bullets for a bottle of vodka... Yesteday i finish the game, i have to say is an amazing game....the story, scenarios, graphics, lap dances :) I like to play without HUD and crosshair (more realistic). The end is not that great if you ask me...but the game like a whole is awesome and 3D is perfect (a few minor issues).
TsaebehT said:Yeah they want to keep the site classy ... by prompting half naked real women all over it instead. We got your "3D Vision Girl of the Week" right here! Lol.

I wonder if I have to enable Advanced PhysX for those or not ... we need a 3D comparison video. Lap dance with ... Lap dance without. :D

And if we have lucky, maybe we can see some nipples with tessellation...jeje

The lap dance scene is not mandatory to continue in game, in fact, the previous scene and why you end alone in a room with that girl is just fine....then you have 2 choices:
a) Go chase the bad guys right the way (no lap dance for Artyom)
b) Let the bad guys wait 5 minutes and pay for a lap dance.

It's an apocalyptic world, the guy was all day walking through dark tunnels and fight monsters.... choice b) is a smart choice, in fact i don't know why Artyom don't pay a full round of bullets for more than an lap dance and another 15 bullets for a bottle of vodka...


Yesteday i finish the game, i have to say is an amazing game....the story, scenarios, graphics, lap dances :)
I like to play without HUD and crosshair (more realistic).
The end is not that great if you ask me...but the game like a whole is awesome and 3D is perfect (a few minor issues).

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