[quote="RAGEdemon"]Muojo,
Regarding your PM, I'd like to post in the open so it might help others too.
1. Get yourself comfortable with enabling 3DV and disabling 3DV.
2. Get comfortable with enabling and comfortably using 3DV advanced options and hotkeys, and understanding what they do - especially Convergence (pop-out), and Separation (depth). Understand their limitations, and how to limit them to prevent abuse/headaches/eyestrain vs. lack of 3D affect.
3. Understand what CM is; it's benefits, and its drawbacks compared to proper Stereo 3D.
4a. Read Helifax's tutorial on how to enable CM in a game that doesn't support it by default:
[url]https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/791450/3d-vision/guide-3d-vision-fixes-by-helixmod-amp-how-to-add-compatibility-mode-to-dx11-games/[/url]
4b. Use this following profile for this game, thanks to WarLord:
[url]https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/1096887/3d-vision/ace-combat-7-skies-unknown/post/6001454/#6001454[/url]
5. Further, if you want more separation with CM, use helifax's tutorial and tool here:
[url]https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/1097032/3d-vision/3d-vision-compatibility-mode-quot-unleashed-quot-/[/url]
6. Profit.
Joking aside, it's a lot to learn and get to grips with. For a beginner, adjusting 3DV settings is also more an art form than science...
...but anything worth while is worth spending time on. Good luck! :) [/quote]
Where do I go to leanr about CM
Regarding your PM, I'd like to post in the open so it might help others too.
1. Get yourself comfortable with enabling 3DV and disabling 3DV.
2. Get comfortable with enabling and comfortably using 3DV advanced options and hotkeys, and understanding what they do - especially Convergence (pop-out), and Separation (depth). Understand their limitations, and how to limit them to prevent abuse/headaches/eyestrain vs. lack of 3D affect.
3. Understand what CM is; it's benefits, and its drawbacks compared to proper Stereo 3D.
4a. Read Helifax's tutorial on how to enable CM in a game that doesn't support it by default:
[quote="ddr0390"]As an alternative for 4a and 4b You can just skip to 5 and use helifax's tool as it already enables CM for games which don't support CM. So You don't need to assign a special profile.
Rename the attached file AC7.jpg to AC7.ini (the forum doesn't allow to attach other files than images). Place AC7.ini in the "profiles" folder of the tool.
Then follow the detailed instructions from Dugom in this post:
[url]https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/1097032/3d-vision/3d-vision-compatibility-mode-quot-unleashed-quot-/post/6000537/#6000537[/url]
The attached ini file has values for my personal use.
F12 very high separation, F11 default separation
If You are new to 3DVision the 350% separation might be too high. Just edit the ini file and reduce "3.5" in this line
NewKey(VK_F12, 3.5, 0.700614, once)
[/quote]
So you didn't use the UE4 fix? I guess I ned a tutorial on how to use HElifax tool
ddr0390 said:As an alternative for 4a and 4b You can just skip to 5 and use helifax's tool as it already enables CM for games which don't support CM. So You don't need to assign a special profile.
Rename the attached file AC7.jpg to AC7.ini (the forum doesn't allow to attach other files than images). Place AC7.ini in the "profiles" folder of the tool.
Then follow the detailed instructions from Dugom in this post: https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/1097032/3d-vision/3d-vision-compatibility-mode-quot-unleashed-quot-/post/6000537/#6000537
The attached ini file has values for my personal use.
F12 very high separation, F11 default separation
If You are new to 3DVision the 350% separation might be too high. Just edit the ini file and reduce "3.5" in this line
NewKey(VK_F12, 3.5, 0.700614, once)
So you didn't use the UE4 fix? I guess I ned a tutorial on how to use HElifax tool
https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/815029/3d-vision/what-is-compatibility-mode-/post/4474426/#4474426
https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/1097032/3d-vision/3d-vision-compatibility-mode-quot-unleashed-quot-/post/5978693/#5978693
Of course these links are useless, if you fail to read anything
[quote="D-Man11"]https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/815029/3d-vision/what-is-compatibility-mode-/post/4474426/#4474426
https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/1097032/3d-vision/3d-vision-compatibility-mode-quot-unleashed-quot-/post/5978693/#5978693
Of course these links are useless, if you fail to read anything[/quote]
Read them
[quote="ddr0390"]As an alternative for 4a and 4b You can just skip to 5 and use helifax's tool as it already enables CM for games which don't support CM. So You don't need to assign a special profile.
Rename the attached file AC7.jpg to AC7.ini (the forum doesn't allow to attach other files than images). Place AC7.ini in the "profiles" folder of the tool.
Then follow the detailed instructions from Dugom in this post:
[url]https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/1097032/3d-vision/3d-vision-compatibility-mode-quot-unleashed-quot-/post/6000537/#6000537[/url]
The attached ini file has values for my personal use.
F12 very high separation, F11 default separation
If You are new to 3DVision the 350% separation might be too high. Just edit the ini file and reduce "3.5" in this line
NewKey(VK_F12, 3.5, 0.700614, once)
[/quote]
Thanks that did the trick! looking at your file helped me understand more of what was going on. Although now, the plane is more inside the TV and not more towards me. I wonder if playing with convergence changes this? Do you need to have the CM tool running everytime you play the game?
When I used the default broken 3d vision, the planes popped out my screen more but of course the sky wa broken
BTW I LOVE THE HIGH SEPERATION!!! I just need to get the plane to jump out more towards me and not inside my TV lol
Of course these links are useless, if you fail to read anything
Read them
ddr0390 said:As an alternative for 4a and 4b You can just skip to 5 and use helifax's tool as it already enables CM for games which don't support CM. So You don't need to assign a special profile.
Rename the attached file AC7.jpg to AC7.ini (the forum doesn't allow to attach other files than images). Place AC7.ini in the "profiles" folder of the tool.
Then follow the detailed instructions from Dugom in this post: https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/1097032/3d-vision/3d-vision-compatibility-mode-quot-unleashed-quot-/post/6000537/#6000537
The attached ini file has values for my personal use.
F12 very high separation, F11 default separation
If You are new to 3DVision the 350% separation might be too high. Just edit the ini file and reduce "3.5" in this line
NewKey(VK_F12, 3.5, 0.700614, once)
Thanks that did the trick! looking at your file helped me understand more of what was going on. Although now, the plane is more inside the TV and not more towards me. I wonder if playing with convergence changes this? Do you need to have the CM tool running everytime you play the game?
When I used the default broken 3d vision, the planes popped out my screen more but of course the sky wa broken
BTW I LOVE THE HIGH SEPERATION!!! I just need to get the plane to jump out more towards me and not inside my TV lol
[quote="Muojo"]Do you need to have the CM tool running everytime you play the game?
[/quote]Yes, You need to run the CM unleashed tool every time.[quote="Muojo"]Although now, the plane is more inside the TV and not more towards me. I wonder if playing with convergence changes this?
[/quote]This is called the pop-out effect. With normal ("real") 3D You can achieve this by increasing convergence to a degree that objects seem to be in front of the monitor level. CM doesn't allow this. Whenever an object touches the monitor level it becomes 2D. Nevertheless You can place objects closer to monitor level by increasing convergence. A word from an experienced 3D user: the longer You play in 3D the less intriguing pop-out effects will be and the more annoying. It has negative side effects like stressing Your eyes and "miniaturization" (objects appear to be very small like toys). In CM higher convergence additionally increases the "halo" effect around objetcs. So I personally prefer to play with higher separation and lower convergence as it feels much more "natural". There are even games like "Avatar The Game" I can't play any more as they use increadible high convergence settings that can't be changed by the user.
If You want higher convergence values without pop-out or issues with 2D in CM use high FOV settings. This pushes objects away from You and allows You on the other hand to increase convergence to improve the depth impression. For AC7 use this tool: [url]http://www.wsgf.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=32997[/url]
Muojo said:Do you need to have the CM tool running everytime you play the game?
Yes, You need to run the CM unleashed tool every time.
Muojo said:Although now, the plane is more inside the TV and not more towards me. I wonder if playing with convergence changes this?
This is called the pop-out effect. With normal ("real") 3D You can achieve this by increasing convergence to a degree that objects seem to be in front of the monitor level. CM doesn't allow this. Whenever an object touches the monitor level it becomes 2D. Nevertheless You can place objects closer to monitor level by increasing convergence. A word from an experienced 3D user: the longer You play in 3D the less intriguing pop-out effects will be and the more annoying. It has negative side effects like stressing Your eyes and "miniaturization" (objects appear to be very small like toys). In CM higher convergence additionally increases the "halo" effect around objetcs. So I personally prefer to play with higher separation and lower convergence as it feels much more "natural". There are even games like "Avatar The Game" I can't play any more as they use increadible high convergence settings that can't be changed by the user.
If You want higher convergence values without pop-out or issues with 2D in CM use high FOV settings. This pushes objects away from You and allows You on the other hand to increase convergence to improve the depth impression. For AC7 use this tool: http://www.wsgf.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=32997
My original display name is 3d4dd - for some reason Nvidia changed it..?!
[quote="ddr0390"]
I can't play any more as they use increadible high convergence settings that can't be changed by the user.
If You want higher convergence values without pop-out or issues with 2D in CM use high FOV settings. This pushes objects away from You and allows You on the other hand to increase convergence to improve the depth impression. For AC7 use this tool: [url]http://www.wsgf.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=32997[/url][/quote]
you nailed it right there. In Arkhak Knight, I like the 3d pop out effect as it does add that dimension of it happening in your room but it does make everythign smaller and decreasing convergence makes thigns bigger but less in your face.
FOV means you see more things in your screen right? What is this "halo" effect you speak of. Is it "seeing double images or a ghosty image of an object near the object"? and thanks I'll check out that tool.
Do you have to go through the steps again everytime you want to play AC7? For both the FOV changer and CM tool?
ddr0390 said:
I can't play any more as they use increadible high convergence settings that can't be changed by the user.
If You want higher convergence values without pop-out or issues with 2D in CM use high FOV settings. This pushes objects away from You and allows You on the other hand to increase convergence to improve the depth impression. For AC7 use this tool: http://www.wsgf.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=32997
you nailed it right there. In Arkhak Knight, I like the 3d pop out effect as it does add that dimension of it happening in your room but it does make everythign smaller and decreasing convergence makes thigns bigger but less in your face.
FOV means you see more things in your screen right? What is this "halo" effect you speak of. Is it "seeing double images or a ghosty image of an object near the object"? and thanks I'll check out that tool.
Do you have to go through the steps again everytime you want to play AC7? For both the FOV changer and CM tool?
[quote="Muojo"]FOV means you see more things in your screen right?
What is this "halo" effect you speak of. Is it "seeing double images or a ghosty image of an object near the object"?
Do you have to go through the steps again everytime you want to play AC7? For both the FOV changer and CM tool?[/quote]
Yes, yes and yes ;)
Personally I have made an autohotkey script that starts all the tools, trainers and pinnacle game profiler settings automatically when I start a game.
Muojo said:FOV means you see more things in your screen right?
What is this "halo" effect you speak of. Is it "seeing double images or a ghosty image of an object near the object"?
Do you have to go through the steps again everytime you want to play AC7? For both the FOV changer and CM tool?
Yes, yes and yes ;)
Personally I have made an autohotkey script that starts all the tools, trainers and pinnacle game profiler settings automatically when I start a game.
My original display name is 3d4dd - for some reason Nvidia changed it..?!
[quote="ddr0390"][quote="Muojo"]FOV means you see more things in your screen right?
What is this "halo" effect you speak of. Is it "seeing double images or a ghosty image of an object near the object"?
Do you have to go through the steps again everytime you want to play AC7? For both the FOV changer and CM tool?[/quote]
Yes, yes and yes ;)
Personally I have made an autohotkey script that starts all the tools, trainers and pinnacle game profiler settings automatically when I start a game.[/quote]
for whatever reason hitting F12 doesn't give me the huge seperation preset anymore :(
The game won't change presets. Not sure if it's cause i'm on driver 419
Muojo said:FOV means you see more things in your screen right?
What is this "halo" effect you speak of. Is it "seeing double images or a ghosty image of an object near the object"?
Do you have to go through the steps again everytime you want to play AC7? For both the FOV changer and CM tool?
Yes, yes and yes ;)
Personally I have made an autohotkey script that starts all the tools, trainers and pinnacle game profiler settings automatically when I start a game.
for whatever reason hitting F12 doesn't give me the huge seperation preset anymore :(
The game won't change presets. Not sure if it's cause i'm on driver 419
Didn't change my 418 driver because of this [url]https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/1101775/3d-vision/future-of-3d-vision-support-official-announcement-from-nvidia-/1/[/url]. But 419 still should support 3D Vision...
Did You try to hit sh+strg+t several times? In AC:Odyssey I have to repeat sh+strg+t every time I alt+tab out of the game and return then.
Driver 419 => F12 is working with CM "Unleashed". Great 3D depth.
Btw. you can disable the HUD in the options before starting the mission. Unfortunately, there is no hotkey.
Alternatively, there is a key to disable the HUD while watching the replay. It looks so amazing and realistic with 3D Vision ;-)
There is a 3D SBS video on YT for 3D Vision Player or Google Cardboard https://youtu.be/4eOMetr0J00
Driver 419 => F12 is working with CM "Unleashed". Great 3D depth.
Btw. you can disable the HUD in the options before starting the mission. Unfortunately, there is no hotkey.
Alternatively, there is a key to disable the HUD while watching the replay. It looks so amazing and realistic with 3D Vision ;-)
There is a 3D SBS video on YT for 3D Vision Player or Google Cardboard https://youtu.be/4eOMetr0J00
[quote="ddr0390"]Didn't change my 418 driver because of this [url]https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/1101775/3d-vision/future-of-3d-vision-support-official-announcement-from-nvidia-/1/[/url]. But 419 still should support 3D Vision...
Did You try to hit sh+strg+t several times? In AC:Odyssey I have to repeat sh+strg+t every time I alt+tab out of the game and return then.[/quote]
I've neber seen sh+strg+t before. I'm dumb. What is that? did you mean to say shift + T?
[quote="Muojo"]I've neber seen sh+strg+t before. I'm dumb. What is that? did you mean to say shift + T? [/quote]
It's actually quite common to see it around on gaming forums.
strg = Steuerung
Steuerung is German for Control
[quote="D-Man11"][quote="Muojo"]I've neber seen sh+strg+t before. I'm dumb. What is that? did you mean to say shift + T? [/quote]
It's actually quite common to see it around on gaming forums.
strg = Steuerung
Steuerung is German for Control[/quote]
All you're saying is hit CTRL+SHIT+T multiple times? for the CM to engage properly? BEcause yeah I don't know why F12 wouldn't work.
I'm not saying anything like that, no idea where you are extrapolating that from.
I simply said strg = ctrl
Because you said you had no idea what it meant.
Perhaps you meant to quote WarLordY1983?
I assume 3D Vision CM Unleashed is working for you besides F12.
You mentioned you are using a game trainer. Game trainers mostly using also F-keys.
Don't use the trainer and try F12 again. If this is working you should change the F12 key in your AC7.ini to avoid overlapping.
Just an idea ^^
I assume 3D Vision CM Unleashed is working for you besides F12.
You mentioned you are using a game trainer. Game trainers mostly using also F-keys.
Don't use the trainer and try F12 again. If this is working you should change the F12 key in your AC7.ini to avoid overlapping.
Where do I go to leanr about CM
So you didn't use the UE4 fix? I guess I ned a tutorial on how to use HElifax tool
https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/1097032/3d-vision/3d-vision-compatibility-mode-quot-unleashed-quot-/post/5978693/#5978693
Of course these links are useless, if you fail to read anything
Read them
Thanks that did the trick! looking at your file helped me understand more of what was going on. Although now, the plane is more inside the TV and not more towards me. I wonder if playing with convergence changes this? Do you need to have the CM tool running everytime you play the game?
When I used the default broken 3d vision, the planes popped out my screen more but of course the sky wa broken
BTW I LOVE THE HIGH SEPERATION!!! I just need to get the plane to jump out more towards me and not inside my TV lol
If You want higher convergence values without pop-out or issues with 2D in CM use high FOV settings. This pushes objects away from You and allows You on the other hand to increase convergence to improve the depth impression. For AC7 use this tool: http://www.wsgf.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=32997
My original display name is 3d4dd - for some reason Nvidia changed it..?!
you nailed it right there. In Arkhak Knight, I like the 3d pop out effect as it does add that dimension of it happening in your room but it does make everythign smaller and decreasing convergence makes thigns bigger but less in your face.
FOV means you see more things in your screen right? What is this "halo" effect you speak of. Is it "seeing double images or a ghosty image of an object near the object"? and thanks I'll check out that tool.
Do you have to go through the steps again everytime you want to play AC7? For both the FOV changer and CM tool?
Yes, yes and yes ;)
Personally I have made an autohotkey script that starts all the tools, trainers and pinnacle game profiler settings automatically when I start a game.
My original display name is 3d4dd - for some reason Nvidia changed it..?!
for whatever reason hitting F12 doesn't give me the huge seperation preset anymore :(
The game won't change presets. Not sure if it's cause i'm on driver 419
Did You try to hit sh+strg+t several times? In AC:Odyssey I have to repeat sh+strg+t every time I alt+tab out of the game and return then.
My original display name is 3d4dd - for some reason Nvidia changed it..?!
Btw. you can disable the HUD in the options before starting the mission. Unfortunately, there is no hotkey.
Alternatively, there is a key to disable the HUD while watching the replay. It looks so amazing and realistic with 3D Vision ;-)
There is a 3D SBS video on YT for 3D Vision Player or Google Cardboard https://youtu.be/4eOMetr0J00
I've neber seen sh+strg+t before. I'm dumb. What is that? did you mean to say shift + T?
It's actually quite common to see it around on gaming forums.
strg = Steuerung
Steuerung is German for Control
All you're saying is hit CTRL+SHIT+T multiple times? for the CM to engage properly? BEcause yeah I don't know why F12 wouldn't work.
I simply said strg = ctrl
Because you said you had no idea what it meant.
Perhaps you meant to quote WarLordY1983?
You mentioned you are using a game trainer. Game trainers mostly using also F-keys.
Don't use the trainer and try F12 again. If this is working you should change the F12 key in your AC7.ini to avoid overlapping.
Just an idea ^^