What Projector Screen do you use for 3D Vision Gaming? Discussion about the normal and high gain scr
I believe this thread dosent exist yet. I believe some here use a 720p projector do game in 3D. This means that, in 120hz and with the shutter glasses, only 20 or 30% of the light will pass to the human eye, even in PJ with lots of advertised lumens like my Benq W700. In the AVS Foruns (nice site to learn about projectors, home cinema, 3D content, etc, by the way) people seem to like using a Screen with more light gain like the Dalite Highpower, that has 2.4 gain. A normal white matiz one has 1.0 gain. For someone that dosent know, high gain Screen have less viewing angle but reflect some of the light projected, at least if the viewer stays in front of the screen, meaning the 3D game or movie will be better, with more whites and still good contrast. This what I read, because I did not try it yet. Some guys have a fixe normal gain screen to watch the 2D content and a manual high gain screen for the 3D.
What about you guys, what screen to you seem to like best for the 3D games and movies?
I believe this thread dosent exist yet. I believe some here use a 720p projector do game in 3D. This means that, in 120hz and with the shutter glasses, only 20 or 30% of the light will pass to the human eye, even in PJ with lots of advertised lumens like my Benq W700. In the AVS Foruns (nice site to learn about projectors, home cinema, 3D content, etc, by the way) people seem to like using a Screen with more light gain like the Dalite Highpower, that has 2.4 gain. A normal white matiz one has 1.0 gain. For someone that dosent know, high gain Screen have less viewing angle but reflect some of the light projected, at least if the viewer stays in front of the screen, meaning the 3D game or movie will be better, with more whites and still good contrast. This what I read, because I did not try it yet. Some guys have a fixe normal gain screen to watch the 2D content and a manual high gain screen for the 3D.
What about you guys, what screen to you seem to like best for the 3D games and movies?
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If it's going to be used for dedicated 3D and never anything else, you can chance a high-gain screen but I'm not a fan of them. If you're looking for excellent all-round performance, don't go for a screen with anything higher than 1.3 gain as you risk a hot-spot (being able to see the projector light source in the screen). Better to spend your money on a better projector with higher ansi lumens & high contrast ratio than trying to cheat it out of a high-gain screen. I'm currently using a DLP Sharp XV-Z1700 projector on a 155" 1.27gain white screen and it's magic. 3D could be a bit brighter as 155" is a large screen, but if you're aiming for around 100" or so I'd imagine it would be perfect. Best all-around projector I've ever come across IMO - full 1080p 3D for movies, too.
If it's going to be used for dedicated 3D and never anything else, you can chance a high-gain screen but I'm not a fan of them. If you're looking for excellent all-round performance, don't go for a screen with anything higher than 1.3 gain as you risk a hot-spot (being able to see the projector light source in the screen). Better to spend your money on a better projector with higher ansi lumens & high contrast ratio than trying to cheat it out of a high-gain screen. I'm currently using a DLP Sharp XV-Z1700 projector on a 155" 1.27gain white screen and it's magic. 3D could be a bit brighter as 155" is a large screen, but if you're aiming for around 100" or so I'd imagine it would be perfect. Best all-around projector I've ever come across IMO - full 1080p 3D for movies, too.
I'll be using an Acer H5360 with about a 60" screen. I'm either going to make my own screen out of a 2x4 wood frame and white blackout cloth, or buy a Dalite Hi-Power 2.4 gain screen. I've heard great things about the Dalite Hi-Power screens, especially when used for 3D. But at my small screen size and short projector throw, I'm thinking that a normal 1.0 gain screen might be plenty.
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I'll be using an Acer H5360 with about a 60" screen. I'm either going to make my own screen out of a 2x4 wood frame and white blackout cloth, or buy a Dalite Hi-Power 2.4 gain screen. I've heard great things about the Dalite Hi-Power screens, especially when used for 3D. But at my small screen size and short projector throw, I'm thinking that a normal 1.0 gain screen might be plenty.
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Thanks for your replies, guys! I read in an article that the spots are more easily seen if your projector is ceiling mounted. This is my case, so probably High Gain sreen wouldnt work for me...right?
Thanks for your replies, guys! I read in an article that the spots are more easily seen if your projector is ceiling mounted. This is my case, so probably High Gain sreen wouldnt work for me...right?
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I've read a lot about the Dalite Hi-Power screens over on AVSForum.com, and they apparently do not "hotspot" at all. They're supposed to be awesome for high gain screens, but need the projector mounted at the same level as the screen and the viewer for optimal results.
[quote name='Badelhas' date='07 October 2011 - 10:32 AM' timestamp='1317997979' post='1304726']
Thanks for your replies, guys! I read in an article that the spots are more easily seen if your projector is ceiling mounted. This is my case, so probably High Gain sreen wouldnt work for me...right?
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I've read a lot about the Dalite Hi-Power screens over on AVSForum.com, and they apparently do not "hotspot" at all. They're supposed to be awesome for high gain screens, but need the projector mounted at the same level as the screen and the viewer for optimal results.
[quote name='Badelhas' date='07 October 2011 - 10:32 AM' timestamp='1317997979' post='1304726']
Thanks for your replies, guys! I read in an article that the spots are more easily seen if your projector is ceiling mounted. This is my case, so probably High Gain sreen wouldnt work for me...right?
[quote name='Badelhas' date='08 October 2011 - 12:32 AM' timestamp='1317997979' post='1304726']
Thanks for your replies, guys! I read in an article that the spots are more easily seen if your projector is ceiling mounted. This is my case, so probably High Gain sreen wouldnt work for me...right?
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You should try working backwards. Start by using this tool: http://www.projectorcentral.com/projection-calculator-pro.cfm
Anything between 16~20 ft Lamberts will be excellent for 3D. Always aim for a lower gain screen if possible...IMO the best possible image you can get is on a 1.0 gain screen letting the projector do it's thing, but if that's simply not bright enough, look into gain screens.
[quote name='Badelhas' date='08 October 2011 - 12:32 AM' timestamp='1317997979' post='1304726']
Thanks for your replies, guys! I read in an article that the spots are more easily seen if your projector is ceiling mounted. This is my case, so probably High Gain sreen wouldnt work for me...right?
You should try working backwards. Start by using this tool: http://www.projectorcentral.com/projection-calculator-pro.cfm
Anything between 16~20 ft Lamberts will be excellent for 3D. Always aim for a lower gain screen if possible...IMO the best possible image you can get is on a 1.0 gain screen letting the projector do it's thing, but if that's simply not bright enough, look into gain screens.
I have an acer h5360 projectign a screen roughly 120" on an old matt screen. its ok, but the screen has visible creases on it which distract from the experience - and the image can be quite dim.
I also have an optoma gt720 short throw projector which is currently in my gaming room, which is work in progress. it is 3 foot away from the wall and the screen is 58 inches. I also sit only 3 foot away from it - so the screen is relatively VERY large, much larger perceived size than the 120" screen... anyway...
the screen i use is actually just a dark blue wall, with one, rather sloppy coat of matt white paint on it. you can see blue seeping through in brush stroke lines. and the bottom 5 inches of the "screen" is actually just dark blue.
what i find really suprising is just how bright the image is, and just little difference the dark blue is compared to the white for anythign except light colours.
I have tested a small patch of high reflective paint and while it is noticibly brighter on plain white (such as this window im typing into) during gaming, its practically impossible to tell.
so bottom line, so long as your screen is flat, and your projector is close enough / bright enough, your in for a good experience.
I am just waiting for a plasterer to come round and do the room, and then I will be paintign it with plain matt white paint, and sanding it down to get rid of any imperfections.
I am confident it will look flawless.
for advice as far as your concerned, i think given that my acer is acceptable as it is, having yours twice as close will make yours brighter than mine is - and definately acceptable. i played downstairs on the acer for about a year and i was happy with everythign appart from the visible creases on the screen.
if you havent got your projector yet, you may want to look at the optoma gt720. im pretty impressed with its brightness, and becasue its so close its easily beating the monitor i used to have in terms of brightness.
I have an acer h5360 projectign a screen roughly 120" on an old matt screen. its ok, but the screen has visible creases on it which distract from the experience - and the image can be quite dim.
I also have an optoma gt720 short throw projector which is currently in my gaming room, which is work in progress. it is 3 foot away from the wall and the screen is 58 inches. I also sit only 3 foot away from it - so the screen is relatively VERY large, much larger perceived size than the 120" screen... anyway...
the screen i use is actually just a dark blue wall, with one, rather sloppy coat of matt white paint on it. you can see blue seeping through in brush stroke lines. and the bottom 5 inches of the "screen" is actually just dark blue.
what i find really suprising is just how bright the image is, and just little difference the dark blue is compared to the white for anythign except light colours.
I have tested a small patch of high reflective paint and while it is noticibly brighter on plain white (such as this window im typing into) during gaming, its practically impossible to tell.
so bottom line, so long as your screen is flat, and your projector is close enough / bright enough, your in for a good experience.
I am just waiting for a plasterer to come round and do the room, and then I will be paintign it with plain matt white paint, and sanding it down to get rid of any imperfections.
I am confident it will look flawless.
for advice as far as your concerned, i think given that my acer is acceptable as it is, having yours twice as close will make yours brighter than mine is - and definately acceptable. i played downstairs on the acer for about a year and i was happy with everythign appart from the visible creases on the screen.
if you havent got your projector yet, you may want to look at the optoma gt720. im pretty impressed with its brightness, and becasue its so close its easily beating the monitor i used to have in terms of brightness.
I have an acer h5360. I painted a large piece of foam board with primer then Behr silver screen paint. Works great. Plenty bright in a room with good light control. Makes a cheap but non retractable screen. I put black foam board around the border. Get the foam board from staples or a larger piece from an art supply store.
I have an acer h5360. I painted a large piece of foam board with primer then Behr silver screen paint. Works great. Plenty bright in a room with good light control. Makes a cheap but non retractable screen. I put black foam board around the border. Get the foam board from staples or a larger piece from an art supply store.
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Just a note for the lazy people like me....
I play with an H5360 projected to a white painted wall. 100" diagonal size. I set it up and have had too much fun to make a screen. The wall is just white paint with a smallish texture to it even. Absolutely unnoticeable when playing.
Brightness has never been a problem. In games, the usual gamma slider has always been enough to balance the brightness properly in 3D. And that is using Eco mode, not full brightness.
When my first bulb got old, it started getting dim, and I put it into full brightness mode. Now I know that means the bulb is on its last legs. It went KaPow about a month after that.
I play with an H5360 projected to a white painted wall. 100" diagonal size. I set it up and have had too much fun to make a screen. The wall is just white paint with a smallish texture to it even. Absolutely unnoticeable when playing.
Brightness has never been a problem. In games, the usual gamma slider has always been enough to balance the brightness properly in 3D. And that is using Eco mode, not full brightness.
When my first bulb got old, it started getting dim, and I put it into full brightness mode. Now I know that means the bulb is on its last legs. It went KaPow about a month after that.
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What about you guys, what screen to you seem to like best for the 3D games and movies?
What about you guys, what screen to you seem to like best for the 3D games and movies?
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I'll be watching this thread...
I'll be watching this thread...
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[quote name='Badelhas' date='07 October 2011 - 10:32 AM' timestamp='1317997979' post='1304726']
Thanks for your replies, guys! I read in an article that the spots are more easily seen if your projector is ceiling mounted. This is my case, so probably High Gain sreen wouldnt work for me...right?
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[quote name='Badelhas' date='07 October 2011 - 10:32 AM' timestamp='1317997979' post='1304726']
Thanks for your replies, guys! I read in an article that the spots are more easily seen if your projector is ceiling mounted. This is my case, so probably High Gain sreen wouldnt work for me...right?
Thanks for your replies, guys! I read in an article that the spots are more easily seen if your projector is ceiling mounted. This is my case, so probably High Gain sreen wouldnt work for me...right?
[/quote]
You should try working backwards. Start by using this tool: http://www.projectorcentral.com/projection-calculator-pro.cfm
Anything between 16~20 ft Lamberts will be excellent for 3D. Always aim for a lower gain screen if possible...IMO the best possible image you can get is on a 1.0 gain screen letting the projector do it's thing, but if that's simply not bright enough, look into gain screens.
Thanks for your replies, guys! I read in an article that the spots are more easily seen if your projector is ceiling mounted. This is my case, so probably High Gain sreen wouldnt work for me...right?
You should try working backwards. Start by using this tool: http://www.projectorcentral.com/projection-calculator-pro.cfm
Anything between 16~20 ft Lamberts will be excellent for 3D. Always aim for a lower gain screen if possible...IMO the best possible image you can get is on a 1.0 gain screen letting the projector do it's thing, but if that's simply not bright enough, look into gain screens.
I also have an optoma gt720 short throw projector which is currently in my gaming room, which is work in progress. it is 3 foot away from the wall and the screen is 58 inches. I also sit only 3 foot away from it - so the screen is relatively VERY large, much larger perceived size than the 120" screen... anyway...
the screen i use is actually just a dark blue wall, with one, rather sloppy coat of matt white paint on it. you can see blue seeping through in brush stroke lines. and the bottom 5 inches of the "screen" is actually just dark blue.
what i find really suprising is just how bright the image is, and just little difference the dark blue is compared to the white for anythign except light colours.
I have tested a small patch of high reflective paint and while it is noticibly brighter on plain white (such as this window im typing into) during gaming, its practically impossible to tell.
so bottom line, so long as your screen is flat, and your projector is close enough / bright enough, your in for a good experience.
I am just waiting for a plasterer to come round and do the room, and then I will be paintign it with plain matt white paint, and sanding it down to get rid of any imperfections.
I am confident it will look flawless.
for advice as far as your concerned, i think given that my acer is acceptable as it is, having yours twice as close will make yours brighter than mine is - and definately acceptable. i played downstairs on the acer for about a year and i was happy with everythign appart from the visible creases on the screen.
if you havent got your projector yet, you may want to look at the optoma gt720. im pretty impressed with its brightness, and becasue its so close its easily beating the monitor i used to have in terms of brightness.
I also have an optoma gt720 short throw projector which is currently in my gaming room, which is work in progress. it is 3 foot away from the wall and the screen is 58 inches. I also sit only 3 foot away from it - so the screen is relatively VERY large, much larger perceived size than the 120" screen... anyway...
the screen i use is actually just a dark blue wall, with one, rather sloppy coat of matt white paint on it. you can see blue seeping through in brush stroke lines. and the bottom 5 inches of the "screen" is actually just dark blue.
what i find really suprising is just how bright the image is, and just little difference the dark blue is compared to the white for anythign except light colours.
I have tested a small patch of high reflective paint and while it is noticibly brighter on plain white (such as this window im typing into) during gaming, its practically impossible to tell.
so bottom line, so long as your screen is flat, and your projector is close enough / bright enough, your in for a good experience.
I am just waiting for a plasterer to come round and do the room, and then I will be paintign it with plain matt white paint, and sanding it down to get rid of any imperfections.
I am confident it will look flawless.
for advice as far as your concerned, i think given that my acer is acceptable as it is, having yours twice as close will make yours brighter than mine is - and definately acceptable. i played downstairs on the acer for about a year and i was happy with everythign appart from the visible creases on the screen.
if you havent got your projector yet, you may want to look at the optoma gt720. im pretty impressed with its brightness, and becasue its so close its easily beating the monitor i used to have in terms of brightness.
I play with an H5360 projected to a white painted wall. 100" diagonal size. I set it up and have had too much fun to make a screen. The wall is just white paint with a smallish texture to it even. Absolutely unnoticeable when playing.
Brightness has never been a problem. In games, the usual gamma slider has always been enough to balance the brightness properly in 3D. And that is using Eco mode, not full brightness.
When my first bulb got old, it started getting dim, and I put it into full brightness mode. Now I know that means the bulb is on its last legs. It went KaPow about a month after that.
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