Is those 27" TN 1080p monitors any good for 3D ( XB270HB and GN276HL )
Hi guys, my ACER GD235HZ (GD245HQ) is still working but begin to be a bit old and I want to find a spare, just in case.
But it's only for 3D games, and I don't find any 3D review anymore.
Could someone tell me if the 3D is OK ?
Cause for example my old ACER as some reverse ghosting:
[url]https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/828986/3d-vision/which-is-the-best-3d-monitor-/post/4518896/#4518896[/url]
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Since nobody seems to share there 3D monitor result, I decided to do it myself.
I've bought the 2 ACER:
From early 2016 the GN276HLbid cost 250€ and from mid 2017 the Predator XB270HBmjdprz cost 350€
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And obviously I've tested them with my personal 3D crosstalk test.
Here the results after set the monitors to get the less ghost possible: (Brightness is not settable in 3D), Lightboost level don't change the crosstalk, neither 3DVision 1 or 2 glasses. Black level from the two new ACER seems equal. Dark stripes are result of capturing, it does not appear in reality. All photos and videos comes from the same afternoon and hardware.
Predator XB270HBmjdprz (Contrast 30)
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GN276HLbid (Contrast 20)
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To compare to my old GD245HQ (Contrast 40)
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Even with the best settings, the two new ACER have to much color ghosting, yellow seems to be the least worst...
The GN276HLbid have less reverse ghosting than the Predator XB270HBmjdprz.
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Color ghost are horrible, here all the contrast setting:
GN276HLbid
On Gray
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMokS6BU1EA
On White
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBR0qnLLDJw
Predator XB270HBmjdprz
On Gray
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9mpqesmpLk
On White
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XORu4vN2ldA
My old GD245HQ (GD235HZ in some country)
On Gray
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dy1XY8UNhfo
One White (almost no problem)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekF6ZzxfWXg
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And obviously I've tested them with my personal 3D crosstalk test.
Here the results after set the monitors to get the less ghost possible: (Brightness is not settable in 3D), Lightboost level don't change the crosstalk, neither 3DVision 1 or 2 glasses. Black level from the two new ACER seems equal. Dark stripes are result of capturing, it does not appear in reality. All photos and videos comes from the same afternoon and hardware.
Predator XB270HBmjdprz (Contrast 30)
GN276HLbid (Contrast 20)
To compare to my old GD245HQ (Contrast 40)
Even with the best settings, the two new ACER have to much color ghosting, yellow seems to be the least worst...
The GN276HLbid have less reverse ghosting than the Predator XB270HBmjdprz.
I tried to take some pictures with my PG278QR, but it's full night now and my phone can't capture as much light as it needs.
Which of the three monitors do you consider the best for 3D?
Color ghost are the worst ghost because you can't ignore them so I can't promote the two new ACER and my old one have some bad color ghost at the bottom too (2009). Conversely reverse ghosting can be ignore by some people, dark ghost become clear and clear ghost is not the worst ghost.
The goal is to not see the rabbit at all, so then they all are not realy great 3D monitors... But perfect 3D monitor don't seems to exist, so we have to find the least worst to buy.
I also have an ASUS VG248QE (2013) it seems better than the ACER so I'm probably gonna buy some new ASUS, to compare.
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Color ghost are the worst ghost because you can't ignore them so I can't promote the two new ACER and my old one have some bad color ghost at the bottom too (2009). Conversely reverse ghosting can be ignore by some people, dark ghost become clear and clear ghost is not the worst ghost.
The goal is to not see the rabbit at all, so then they all are not realy great 3D monitors... But perfect 3D monitor don't seems to exist, so we have to find the least worst to buy.
I also have an ASUS VG248QE (2013) it seems better than the ACER so I'm probably gonna buy some new ASUS, to compare.
Thanks Dugom, I know from experience how hard it is to get people to do real tests, so this helps baseline and set expectations. When I bought my OLED all the professional reviews and most comments on forums said it was perfect 3d and there is no ghosting, but even with a good passive 3d screen there is still a certain unavoidable amount of crosstalk.
The only way to escape that is via a HMD.
Thanks Dugom, I know from experience how hard it is to get people to do real tests, so this helps baseline and set expectations. When I bought my OLED all the professional reviews and most comments on forums said it was perfect 3d and there is no ghosting, but even with a good passive 3d screen there is still a certain unavoidable amount of crosstalk.
The only way to escape that is via a HMD.
GTX 1070 SLI, I7-6700k ~ 4.4Ghz, 3x BenQ XL2420T, BenQ TK800, LG 55EG960V (3D OLED), Samsung 850 EVO SSD, Crucial M4 SSD, 3D vision kit, Xpand x104 glasses, Corsair HX1000i, Win 10 pro 64/Win 7 64https://www.3dmark.com/fs/9529310
I have to say that my ASUS VG278H is pretty damn good with it's embedded emitter.
Just hook it up to my PS3 fpr a simple 3D Blu-ray session not counting quite a few 3D PS3 games work well.
Never beeen unhappy with it. It came with v2 glasses and I finally bought Another V2 glasses.
The bigger screen benefit from bigger glasses at short distances.
My old BENQ XL2410T can't compare and has a few flaws with backlightning.
Builtin emitter is really rare and to combine it with a good monitor is even rarer.
I tested my old ASUS VG248QE just to compare:
No color ghost but a lot of ghosting... The rabbit is clearly visible...
Contrast 20:
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All contrast settings:
On Gray
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMgHrox1Sts
On White
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1JSK2ejzGE
.
But it's only for 3D games, and I don't find any 3D review anymore.
Could someone tell me if the 3D is OK ?
Cause for example my old ACER as some reverse ghosting:
https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/828986/3d-vision/which-is-the-best-3d-monitor-/post/4518896/#4518896
.
i7 4790K @4.8Ghz / 2x 1080 8GB SLI @2000Mhz / 16GB @2400Mhz
Just click:
My 3D videos and crosstalk test pattern
3DVision Fixes:
HelixMod Site
Universal fix for UnrealEngine 4 Games
Universal fix for Unity Games
Universal fix for FrostBite 3 Games
Universal fix for TellTales Games
Compability Mode Unleashed
Please donate if you can:
-----> Donations to 3DVision Fixers
.
I've bought the 2 ACER:
From early 2016 the GN276HLbid cost 250€ and from mid 2017 the Predator XB270HBmjdprz cost 350€
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
And obviously I've tested them with my personal 3D crosstalk test.
Here the results after set the monitors to get the less ghost possible: (Brightness is not settable in 3D), Lightboost level don't change the crosstalk, neither 3DVision 1 or 2 glasses. Black level from the two new ACER seems equal. Dark stripes are result of capturing, it does not appear in reality. All photos and videos comes from the same afternoon and hardware.
Predator XB270HBmjdprz (Contrast 30)
GN276HLbid (Contrast 20)
To compare to my old GD245HQ (Contrast 40)
Even with the best settings, the two new ACER have to much color ghosting, yellow seems to be the least worst...
The GN276HLbid have less reverse ghosting than the Predator XB270HBmjdprz.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Color ghost are horrible, here all the contrast setting:
GN276HLbid
On Gray
On White
Predator XB270HBmjdprz
On Gray
On White
My old GD245HQ (GD235HZ in some country)
On Gray
One White (almost no problem)
.
i7 4790K @4.8Ghz / 2x 1080 8GB SLI @2000Mhz / 16GB @2400Mhz
Just click:
My 3D videos and crosstalk test pattern
3DVision Fixes:
HelixMod Site
Universal fix for UnrealEngine 4 Games
Universal fix for Unity Games
Universal fix for FrostBite 3 Games
Universal fix for TellTales Games
Compability Mode Unleashed
Please donate if you can:
-----> Donations to 3DVision Fixers
.
Which of the three monitors do you consider the best for 3D?
CPU: Intel Core i7 7700K @ 4.9GHz
Motherboard: Gigabyte Aorus GA-Z270X-Gaming 5
RAM: GSKILL Ripjaws Z 16GB 3866MHz CL18
GPU: Gainward Phoenix 1080 GLH
Monitor: Asus PG278QR
Speakers: Logitech Z506
Donations account: masterotakusuko@gmail.com
The goal is to not see the rabbit at all, so then they all are not realy great 3D monitors... But perfect 3D monitor don't seems to exist, so we have to find the least worst to buy.
I also have an ASUS VG248QE (2013) it seems better than the ACER so I'm probably gonna buy some new ASUS, to compare.
.
i7 4790K @4.8Ghz / 2x 1080 8GB SLI @2000Mhz / 16GB @2400Mhz
Just click:
My 3D videos and crosstalk test pattern
3DVision Fixes:
HelixMod Site
Universal fix for UnrealEngine 4 Games
Universal fix for Unity Games
Universal fix for FrostBite 3 Games
Universal fix for TellTales Games
Compability Mode Unleashed
Please donate if you can:
-----> Donations to 3DVision Fixers
.
i7 4790K @4.8Ghz / 2x 1080 8GB SLI @2000Mhz / 16GB @2400Mhz
Just click:
My 3D videos and crosstalk test pattern
3DVision Fixes:
HelixMod Site
Universal fix for UnrealEngine 4 Games
Universal fix for Unity Games
Universal fix for FrostBite 3 Games
Universal fix for TellTales Games
Compability Mode Unleashed
Please donate if you can:
-----> Donations to 3DVision Fixers
.
The only way to escape that is via a HMD.
GTX 1070 SLI, I7-6700k ~ 4.4Ghz, 3x BenQ XL2420T, BenQ TK800, LG 55EG960V (3D OLED), Samsung 850 EVO SSD, Crucial M4 SSD, 3D vision kit, Xpand x104 glasses, Corsair HX1000i, Win 10 pro 64/Win 7 64https://www.3dmark.com/fs/9529310
Just hook it up to my PS3 fpr a simple 3D Blu-ray session not counting quite a few 3D PS3 games work well.
Never beeen unhappy with it. It came with v2 glasses and I finally bought Another V2 glasses.
The bigger screen benefit from bigger glasses at short distances.
My old BENQ XL2410T can't compare and has a few flaws with backlightning.
Builtin emitter is really rare and to combine it with a good monitor is even rarer.
Thanks to everybody using my assembler it warms my heart.
To have a critical piece of code that everyone can enjoy!
What more can you ask for?
donations: ulfjalmbrant@hotmail.com
No color ghost but a lot of ghosting... The rabbit is clearly visible...
Contrast 20:
All contrast settings:
On Gray
On White
.
i7 4790K @4.8Ghz / 2x 1080 8GB SLI @2000Mhz / 16GB @2400Mhz
Just click:
My 3D videos and crosstalk test pattern
3DVision Fixes:
HelixMod Site
Universal fix for UnrealEngine 4 Games
Universal fix for Unity Games
Universal fix for FrostBite 3 Games
Universal fix for TellTales Games
Compability Mode Unleashed
Please donate if you can:
-----> Donations to 3DVision Fixers
.