Help with TV Samsung F7500 and X3d glasses
Hi,anybody please help me.I used to play games with a retro pc using old stereoscopic nvidia drivers(GS 7200) and active old X3d Glasses system in my 2011 Sansung 3dtv PL51D490 through VGA inout and it worked fine.I just bought this new 3dtv F7500 cause it has more 3d modes,including Checkerboard.It has no VGA imput,so I had to buy a VGA to HDMI converter(It works really fine).My problem is that 3d starts and the x3d glasses keep working fine,but the 3d game keeps in and out of sync(imposible to play).Any help,PLEASE? EDIT:the problem is L/R keeps changing.I started a game and turned 3d on(CRTL+T)then selected one of the tv's 3d modes(FRAME)and put the tv glasses(not x3d one) and it was great except for the L/R swap.Any way to stop this swaping? Retro pc: Windows XP sp2 GS 7200 using old 169.21 forceware driver 4gb ram Samsung 3dtv F7500
Hi,anybody please help me.I used to play games with a retro pc using old stereoscopic nvidia drivers(GS 7200) and active old X3d Glasses system in my 2011 Sansung 3dtv PL51D490 through VGA inout and it worked fine.I just bought this new 3dtv F7500 cause it has more 3d modes,including Checkerboard.It has no VGA imput,so I had to buy a VGA to HDMI converter(It works really fine).My problem is that 3d starts and the x3d glasses keep working fine,but the 3d game keeps in and out of sync(imposible to play).Any help,PLEASE?

EDIT:the problem is L/R keeps changing.I started a game and turned 3d on(CRTL+T)then selected one of the tv's 3d modes(FRAME)and put the tv glasses(not x3d one) and it was great except for the L/R swap.Any way to stop this swaping?
Retro pc:
Windows XP sp2
GS 7200 using old 169.21 forceware driver
4gb ram
Samsung 3dtv F7500

#1
Posted 11/30/2013 05:13 AM   
For retro 3D, you'll have better luck at mtbs3d.com forums. Also, for retro drivers that old, there are a bunch of registry keys that you can tweak. I think one is an eye-swap. Dig around in the registry.
For retro 3D, you'll have better luck at mtbs3d.com forums.

Also, for retro drivers that old, there are a bunch of registry keys that you can tweak. I think one is an eye-swap. Dig around in the registry.

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#2
Posted 12/02/2013 12:59 AM   
Maybe Nvidia Inspector has some exposed options that will help?
Maybe Nvidia Inspector has some exposed options that will help?

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#3
Posted 12/02/2013 01:08 AM   
[quote="Libertine"]Maybe Nvidia Inspector has some exposed options that will help?[/quote]Unlikely. NVidia Inspector uses the new NV API, which stores profiles in a special file, no longer in registry. Old retro version before Vista stored profiles in the registry. I'm pretty sure that NV Inspector doesn't know anything about the retro version.
Libertine said:Maybe Nvidia Inspector has some exposed options that will help?
Unlikely. NVidia Inspector uses the new NV API, which stores profiles in a special file, no longer in registry. Old retro version before Vista stored profiles in the registry. I'm pretty sure that NV Inspector doesn't know anything about the retro version.

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#4
Posted 12/02/2013 03:58 AM   
I just made a test connecting directly to the 3dtv(without the X3d dongle)through the VGA to HDMI converter and to my surprise 3d worked just fine using the sammy 3d glasses if it were not for the picture on the tv stand alternating sides(It's the tv,not the glasses that keeps Changing L/R sides).Chose DDC VGA Glasses as stereo type on old control panel and started Tomb raider IV(and Gothic 1).After that,pressed CRTL+T and turned 3d on tv using Frame mode(other 3d modes do not worked).Got to say that 3d is great,almost as good as 3d Vision,if not equal(I enjoy some old games as much as new ones).But the swapping problem continues. Windows XP SP3 Intel celeron 1.8ghz Nvidia geforce 7300 SE 4gb ram forceware driver 9131-whql forceware 3dstereo driver 91.31 forceware Samsung 3dtv F7500
I just made a test connecting directly to the 3dtv(without the X3d dongle)through the VGA to HDMI converter and to my surprise 3d worked just fine using the sammy 3d glasses if it were not for the picture on the tv stand alternating sides(It's the tv,not the glasses that keeps Changing L/R sides).Chose DDC VGA Glasses as stereo type on old control panel and started Tomb raider IV(and Gothic 1).After that,pressed CRTL+T and turned 3d on tv using Frame mode(other 3d modes do not worked).Got to say that 3d is great,almost as good as 3d Vision,if not equal(I enjoy some old games as much as new ones).But the swapping problem continues.


Windows XP SP3
Intel celeron 1.8ghz
Nvidia geforce 7300 SE
4gb ram
forceware driver 9131-whql
forceware 3dstereo driver 91.31 forceware
Samsung 3dtv F7500

#5
Posted 12/02/2013 06:53 AM   
Iondrive from MTBS 3D forum had found a solution: http://www.mtbs3d.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=60&t=6007 I tested some games and It is preety good,except It only works when using a VGA cable and not a DVI cable(which could provide much better color and details).Perhaps someone knows a way of hacking,like a pin-mod on the vga or DVI connector(if possible)then It would be possible to have Checkerboard.An Edid hack would work too. You don't have to buy any dongle or glasses(X3d or Edimentional).I bought a VGA to HDMI converter because my tv(Samsung 3d 46F7500)does not have a VGA output.
Iondrive from MTBS 3D forum had found a solution:
http://www.mtbs3d.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=60&t=6007
I tested some games and It is preety good,except It only works when using a VGA cable and not a DVI cable(which could provide much better color and details).Perhaps someone knows a way of hacking,like a pin-mod on the vga or DVI connector(if possible)then It would be possible to have Checkerboard.An Edid hack would work too.
You don't have to buy any dongle or glasses(X3d or Edimentional).I bought a VGA to HDMI converter because my tv(Samsung 3d 46F7500)does not have a VGA output.

#6
Posted 12/04/2013 11:50 AM   
Anyone knows if this converter can convert with a better image quality(DVI standard) to be used on the tv(read post above,please): http://www.ebay.com/itm/PC-VGA-to-DVI-D-Digital-Video-Format-Converter-/230616333659?pt=US_Video_Cables_Adapters&hash=item35b1cdfd5b EDIT:My tv isn't accepting 1920x1080 when I run the Checkerboard.reg.It reverts automaticaly to 1680x1050,(checkerboard works only with 1280x720 and 1920x1080).
Anyone knows if this converter can convert with a better image quality(DVI standard) to be used on the tv(read post above,please):
http://www.ebay.com/itm/PC-VGA-to-DVI-D-Digital-Video-Format-Converter-/230616333659?pt=US_Video_Cables_Adapters&hash=item35b1cdfd5b

EDIT:My tv isn't accepting 1920x1080 when I run the Checkerboard.reg.It reverts automaticaly to 1680x1050,(checkerboard works only with 1280x720 and 1920x1080).

#7
Posted 12/05/2013 04:38 AM   
hello there mate, i've got a sammy es8000 with a evolution kit on, which gives it the same settings as the f series (well nearly), with my tv i have to connect pc dvi to hdmi 1,then on tv select hdmi 1 change it to pc\dvi 1, it will only work in hdmi 1 on my tv. i hope you get it sorted,Batman AO looks stunning in 3d on a big telly running in 1080 (it's nice to kick back on sofa once & awhile)....Also to connect to tv just get a dvi to hdmi cable....good luck..
hello there mate, i've got a sammy es8000 with a evolution kit on, which gives it the same settings as the f series (well nearly), with my tv i have to connect pc dvi to hdmi 1,then on tv select hdmi 1 change it to pc\dvi 1, it will only work in hdmi 1 on my tv. i hope you get it sorted,Batman AO looks stunning in 3d on a big telly running in 1080 (it's nice to kick back on sofa once & awhile)....Also to connect to tv just get a dvi to hdmi cable....good luck..

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#8
Posted 12/05/2013 04:22 PM   
Sorry mate did'nt realize you wanted to know about retro 3d, jumped in feet first, sorry..
Sorry mate did'nt realize you wanted to know about retro 3d, jumped in feet first, sorry..

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#9
Posted 12/05/2013 04:30 PM   
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