Please add HDMI 2.0 Support to 3DTV Play...
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#46
Posted 02/01/2016 06:28 AM   
For supporting HDMI 2.0 and maybe now some nVidia worker see it and maybe someone even can make this thread pinned.
For supporting HDMI 2.0 and maybe now some nVidia worker see it and maybe someone even can make this thread pinned.

#47
Posted 02/01/2016 11:45 AM   
Didn't one of the main guys here have a direct line to some Nvidia engineer working with 3D Vision? Fairly certain Nvidia knows this is a massive priority that the community wants. Heck, I think it's what most of were wishing for when that Nvidia mod started teasing us about this "huge" surprise that was coming. It turned out to be fake 3D mode. Still, the mod was reading the thread and knew it's what many desperately wanted. They know. They just don't care. It's been abandoned. Fake 3D mode was their final farewell gesture.
Didn't one of the main guys here have a direct line to some Nvidia engineer working with 3D Vision?

Fairly certain Nvidia knows this is a massive priority that the community wants.

Heck, I think it's what most of were wishing for when that Nvidia mod started teasing us about this "huge" surprise that was coming. It turned out to be fake 3D mode. Still, the mod was reading the thread and knew it's what many desperately wanted. They know. They just don't care. It's been abandoned. Fake 3D mode was their final farewell gesture.

#48
Posted 02/01/2016 01:51 PM   
Is it really so difficult to hack drivers support HDMI 2.0 and only nVidia can do it?
Is it really so difficult to hack drivers support HDMI 2.0 and only nVidia can do it?

#49
Posted 02/01/2016 02:15 PM   
so the only way for 3dtv 1080p@60hz is DisplayPort?i can only use tridef to play old game in 3dtv 1080p@60hz hdmi..... so 1080p@60hz 3dvision Is not possiblewith hdmi?or nvdia just abandoned this?
so the only way for 3dtv 1080p@60hz is DisplayPort?i can only use tridef to play old game in 3dtv 1080p@60hz hdmi.....

so 1080p@60hz 3dvision Is not possiblewith hdmi?or nvdia just abandoned this?

#50
Posted 02/01/2016 02:23 PM   
Are you sure 3DTV support DP?
Are you sure 3DTV support DP?

#51
Posted 02/01/2016 02:26 PM   
[quote="Paul33993"]Didn't one of the main guys here have a direct line to some Nvidia engineer working with 3D Vision?[/quote] Yes, bo3b has limited contact [quote="daspwan"]so the only way for 3dtv 1080p@60hz is DisplayPort?i can only use tridef to play old game in 3dtv 1080p@60hz hdmi..... so 1080p@60hz 3dvision Is not possiblewith hdmi?or nvdia just abandoned this?[/quote] The only access to Nvidia's stereoscopic drivers using a Display Port connection is via 3D Vision. Nvidia added HDMI 2.0 support starting with the GTX 9XX GPUs, but only on the 2D side for 4K displays. [quote="ramps"]Are you sure 3DTV support DP?[/quote] 3DTV Play supports HDMI 1.4 compliant displays, but only via a HDMI connection.
Paul33993 said:Didn't one of the main guys here have a direct line to some Nvidia engineer working with 3D Vision?

Yes, bo3b has limited contact

daspwan said:so the only way for 3dtv 1080p@60hz is DisplayPort?i can only use tridef to play old game in 3dtv 1080p@60hz hdmi.....

so 1080p@60hz 3dvision Is not possiblewith hdmi?or nvdia just abandoned this?

The only access to Nvidia's stereoscopic drivers using a Display Port connection is via 3D Vision.
Nvidia added HDMI 2.0 support starting with the GTX 9XX GPUs, but only on the 2D side for 4K displays.


ramps said:Are you sure 3DTV support DP?

3DTV Play supports HDMI 1.4 compliant displays, but only via a HDMI connection.

#52
Posted 02/01/2016 02:57 PM   
To quote a previous post of mine : I won't be using nvidia 3D technologies because 1. 3DTV play is severely outdated and limited to 720p@60fps or 1080p@24fps, which in all honesty is a joke 2. 3D Vision does not work on all the monitors (even 120hz+ ones), nobody who likes immersion wants to play on anything smaller than 40 inches anyway, (Why the hell do you want 3D if it's to play on a 27" monitor ? O_o), and finally the glasses behind the (nowadays overpriced) nvidia 3d vision kit technilogy is outdated and still uses IR technilogies when everyone else is now using the RF based Full HD 3D Glasses universal standard ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_shutter_3D_system ) Until Nvidia updates its 3DTV Play software to allow using SBS, TB or/and frame packing at higher resolutions and frame rates, I will stick to using Tridef 3D. These are features Nvidia costumers have been asking for (quite literally) years and still aren't getting. I guess Nvidia doesn't care about 3D at all anymore, a shame if you ask me. I can play in 1980x2160 resolution at 60fps in 3D (3840x2160 SBS image) on my UE55JU7500 display (55 inches 4K curved TV) using Tridef 3D, good luck doing that with 3DTV play.
To quote a previous post of mine :

I won't be using nvidia 3D technologies because

1. 3DTV play is severely outdated and limited to 720p@60fps or 1080p@24fps, which in all honesty is a joke

2. 3D Vision does not work on all the monitors (even 120hz+ ones), nobody who likes immersion wants to play on anything smaller than 40 inches anyway, (Why the hell do you want 3D if it's to play on a 27" monitor ? O_o), and finally the glasses behind the (nowadays overpriced) nvidia 3d vision kit technilogy is outdated and still uses IR technilogies when everyone else is now using the RF based Full HD 3D Glasses universal standard ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_shutter_3D_system )

Until Nvidia updates its 3DTV Play software to allow using SBS, TB or/and frame packing at higher resolutions and frame rates, I will stick to using Tridef 3D. These are features Nvidia costumers have been asking for (quite literally) years and still aren't getting. I guess Nvidia doesn't care about 3D at all anymore, a shame if you ask me.

I can play in 1980x2160 resolution at 60fps in 3D (3840x2160 SBS image) on my UE55JU7500 display (55 inches 4K curved TV) using Tridef 3D, good luck doing that with 3DTV play.

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#53
Posted 02/02/2016 01:00 PM   
I plan to buy JU7500 too. How much ghosting do you have and how much depth you can use?
I plan to buy JU7500 too. How much ghosting do you have and how much depth you can use?

#54
Posted 02/02/2016 01:57 PM   
[quote="ramps"]I plan to buy JU7500 too. How much ghosting do you have and how much depth you can use?[/quote] The 3D is very good, I get almost no ghosting (if any at all), I have no idea about the depth, the standard values are already plenty enough for me so I don't toy with those that much. If you plan on getting a set for 3D vision support though, you may want to look into a UHD passive 3D set that can be used with a EDID hack (unless you want to only rely on Tridef) you will however most likely not get the same overall experience as the JU7500's input lag in game mode is very low (for a TV display), with the latest firmware it's been measured at 20.5ms (that's in 1080p, you want to add about 5ms when using the set in 2160p, which is still lower than the most of current competition)
ramps said:I plan to buy JU7500 too. How much ghosting do you have and how much depth you can use?


The 3D is very good, I get almost no ghosting (if any at all), I have no idea about the depth, the standard values are already plenty enough for me so I don't toy with those that much.

If you plan on getting a set for 3D vision support though, you may want to look into a UHD passive 3D set that can be used with a EDID hack (unless you want to only rely on Tridef) you will however most likely not get the same overall experience as the JU7500's input lag in game mode is very low (for a TV display), with the latest firmware it's been measured at 20.5ms (that's in 1080p, you want to add about 5ms when using the set in 2160p, which is still lower than the most of current competition)

Alienware 17 R3 GTX 980M (internal GPU)
RAM: 32GB
Storage: 4*512GB SSD

Display: Samsung UE55JU7500 (55 inches 4096x2160 capable display , 3840x2160 native resolution @ chroma 4:4:4 over HDMI 2.0)

Alienware Graphics Amplifier + GTX1080 connected to the above configuration (external GPU)

#55
Posted 02/02/2016 02:13 PM   
if the 3dtv has DVI or DP,does Nvidia's stereoscopic drivers recognized 3dtv as a 3d passtive monitor? or it must be output as 3d signal?
if the 3dtv has DVI or DP,does Nvidia's stereoscopic drivers recognized 3dtv as a 3d passtive monitor? or it must be output as 3d signal?

#56
Posted 02/03/2016 03:28 AM   
Line Interleaved is only available from NVidia stereoscopic drivers using a consumer GPU if accessed via Optimized for Nvidia GeForce. http://www.nvidia.com/object/optimized-for-geforce-3d-passive-3D-monitors.html There are only 3 monitors officially supported, along with a handful of laptop integrated displays. Unofficially, you can override the EDID of a display using an .inf from one of the 3 supported monitors to gain access to line interleaved. This will be the only format available if using the EDID Override. Line Interleaved, is not currently available to 3DTV Play users.
Line Interleaved is only available from NVidia stereoscopic drivers using a consumer GPU if accessed via Optimized for Nvidia GeForce.

http://www.nvidia.com/object/optimized-for-geforce-3d-passive-3D-monitors.html


There are only 3 monitors officially supported, along with a handful of laptop integrated displays.

Unofficially, you can override the EDID of a display using an .inf from one of the 3 supported monitors to gain access to line interleaved. This will be the only format available if using the EDID Override.

Line Interleaved, is not currently available to 3DTV Play users.

#57
Posted 02/03/2016 03:52 AM   
This is my case:i have a Line Interleaved LG 3d monitor and a sony passtive 3dtv,i overwrite crack file nvstres.dll , the Default Line Interleaved display mode(tridef) can't use in 3dtv(screen blur) ,but 720p 3d signa(3d vision) is Perfect,3dtv has better size and colour,the only issue is 720p. so if i override the EDID of this display force it using Line Interleaved mode,it will still be screen blur?
This is my case:i have a Line Interleaved LG 3d monitor and a sony passtive 3dtv,i overwrite crack file nvstres.dll ,
the Default Line Interleaved display mode(tridef) can't use in 3dtv(screen blur) ,but 720p 3d signa(3d vision) is Perfect,3dtv has better size and colour,the only issue is 720p.
so if i override the EDID of this display force it using Line Interleaved mode,it will still be screen blur?

#58
Posted 02/03/2016 01:08 PM   
Nvidia really needs to add Line Interleaved to 3DTV Play offering the same 60Hz support as Optomized for Nvidia GeForce. http://3dvision-blog.com/7163-make-your-passive-3d-monitor-or-3d-hdtv-work-with-3d-vision/ The title is wrong, you're not making it work with 3D Vision, you'd be making it work with Nvidia's stereoscopic gaming middleware by accessing the drivers via "Optimized for NVidia GeForce". the eyes will be reversed, you can fix that using https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/827162/ KEEP IN MIND that it "locks" those registry settings if you ever use 3D Vision, you'll need to unlock them. or you might have to for something else as well.
Nvidia really needs to add Line Interleaved to 3DTV Play offering the same 60Hz support as Optomized for Nvidia GeForce.


http://3dvision-blog.com/7163-make-your-passive-3d-monitor-or-3d-hdtv-work-with-3d-vision/



The title is wrong, you're not making it work with 3D Vision, you'd be making it work with Nvidia's stereoscopic gaming middleware by accessing the drivers via "Optimized for NVidia GeForce".

the eyes will be reversed, you can fix that using https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/827162/


KEEP IN MIND that it "locks" those registry settings if you ever use 3D Vision, you'll need to unlock them. or you might have to for something else as well.

#59
Posted 02/03/2016 03:52 PM   
So that ''Optomized for Nvidia GeForce'' for passive screens means that it gives less 3D effects than 3DTV and real active 3D vision?
So that ''Optomized for Nvidia GeForce'' for passive screens means that it gives less 3D effects than 3DTV and real active 3D vision?

#60
Posted 02/03/2016 04:02 PM   
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