Recent 3D movies looking superb in 3D?!
So I was watching the Captain Marvel movie at home last night, and immediately noticed that the convergence/separation translating into the 3D effect were absolutely superb - I have never seen anything like it in a 3D movie at home before - even though it is a fake-3D movie not filmed with 2 cameras. History recap: Since movies are hard coded with a set convergence and separation, and primarily designed for huge cinema screens, and need to be able to allow front row viewers non-headache viewing, unfortunately, all movies up until this point have been extremely conservative with convergence and separation. This has always meant that 3D movies have been an abysmal experience compared to 3DVision / VR. Furthermore, since most people's 3D experience has only ever been this abysmal hard-coded theatre tech, the overwhelming majority of people have written 3D off as a gimmick. Especially when these hard-coded 3D movie prints make it directly to the comparatively tiny home 3DTV, the effect becomes practically non-existent. Well, it looks like someone in the industry might have realised this problem and re-encoded the fake-3D process for higher convergence/separation for the 3DTV home viewing market! Too little, too late I am sure, but still, it is a small silver lining to the dark clouds hovering over 3D as of late; - I thought I might share. I don't know which other movies, if indeed any others have, gone through this transformation, but it would be cool to come across them going into the future... All the best!
So I was watching the Captain Marvel movie at home last night, and immediately noticed that the convergence/separation translating into the 3D effect were absolutely superb - I have never seen anything like it in a 3D movie at home before - even though it is a fake-3D movie not filmed with 2 cameras.

History recap:
Since movies are hard coded with a set convergence and separation, and primarily designed for huge cinema screens, and need to be able to allow front row viewers non-headache viewing, unfortunately, all movies up until this point have been extremely conservative with convergence and separation.

This has always meant that 3D movies have been an abysmal experience compared to 3DVision / VR. Furthermore, since most people's 3D experience has only ever been this abysmal hard-coded theatre tech, the overwhelming majority of people have written 3D off as a gimmick.

Especially when these hard-coded 3D movie prints make it directly to the comparatively tiny home 3DTV, the effect becomes practically non-existent.

Well, it looks like someone in the industry might have realised this problem and re-encoded the fake-3D process for higher convergence/separation for the 3DTV home viewing market!

Too little, too late I am sure, but still, it is a small silver lining to the dark clouds hovering over 3D as of late; - I thought I might share. I don't know which other movies, if indeed any others have, gone through this transformation, but it would be cool to come across them going into the future...

All the best!

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#1
Posted 15 hours ago   
How come even today major folks pushing 3D like James Cameron still makes use of fuzzy backgrounds to have audience look at a specific spot? I remember watching Alita and seeing this, could not believe it. I guess it's the same with Captain Marvel? Thanks for the hint, may try to have a look if I feel it's much different.
How come even today major folks pushing 3D like James Cameron still makes use of fuzzy backgrounds to have audience look at a specific spot? I remember watching Alita and seeing this, could not believe it.

I guess it's the same with Captain Marvel? Thanks for the hint, may try to have a look if I feel it's much different.

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#2
Posted 13 hours ago   
I am not a big movie goer, but Yeah I think ultimately 3D is a very personal experience, even most of the game fixes here I really need to fine tune for myself as Separation and convergence is never quite right for my environment distance and eye spacing. It's kind of a hard thing to market as a plug and play solution leading to these very conservative outcomes which tarnishes the tech and most peoples experiences have been these bad movie experiences on the big screen. 3D is definitely not a gimmick, but it seems like the movie implementation almost always is... As it stands to this day every single person I have shown my 3D setup on with a game like MK11 or DMC5 has been blown away every single time, and it actually makes me very sad every single time...
I am not a big movie goer, but Yeah I think ultimately 3D is a very personal experience, even most of the game fixes here I really need to fine tune for myself as Separation and convergence is never quite right for my environment distance and eye spacing.

It's kind of a hard thing to market as a plug and play solution leading to these very conservative outcomes which tarnishes the tech and most peoples experiences have been these bad movie experiences on the big screen.

3D is definitely not a gimmick, but it seems like the movie implementation almost always is...

As it stands to this day every single person I have shown my 3D setup on with a game like MK11 or DMC5 has been blown away every single time, and it actually makes me very sad every single time...

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#3
Posted 11 hours ago   
It still surprises me that this is not discussed more on this forum. Yes, it's not directly related to games or Nvidia hardware, but this forum is one of the last bastions of stereo vision enthusiasm and knowledge on this miserable planet. Basically, many 3D movies nowadays, if watched on a quality TV like the passive OLEDs, are more than decent. Real 3D is mostly gone, but the conversion process is now top quality if studios want to fork the cash for it. On a loosely subjective spectrum of 3D strenght from high to low, the situation with 3D movies viewed at home is: 1. Top 3D quality, hyperstereovision Movies done by nWave studio - Sammy's Adventure, Son of Bigfoot, Thunder the cat, etc 2. Strong 3d conversion, lots of convergence and depth The recent movies in the Avengers series (Doctor Strange, Thor Ragnarok etc). Other movies, like the two Ninja Turtles, The Young And Prodigious T.S. Spivet, there are many movies that have strong 3D depth incredibly. Watch the Step Up dance scenes ... 3. Great 3D in recent movies, generally the conversion process getting better Kong Skull Island, San Andreas, Fantastic Beasts, too many ... 4. More subtle/nuanced 3D layers, but serving the movie greatly Gravity, Mad Max Fury Road, Passengers, The Martian, Hugo, too many too list I usually buy the movie then rip them to a file. Then I can watch them whenever I wish off an external drive. The awesome thing about these movies is that the same phenomenon that we discovered with games applies here too: no matter how crappy or boring the movie, just by virtue of it being in 3D elevates it to a superior entertaining experience. Almost every night, before going to sleep, no matter what we've done that day, what other 3D games we might have played, me and the missus go for a 3D movie session, to makes us forget that this amazing technology will soon disappear. Enjoy it while it lasts, folks. TVs are not made anymore, and more and more studios are no longer putting the 3D version on disk for home viewing - even if they paid for the conversion process already. Even studios like Nwave which are known among the aficionados as the producers of the strongest 3D material on Earth are rumored to not get The Queen's Corgi on disk. It would be their first, but a sign of things to come.
It still surprises me that this is not discussed more on this forum.
Yes, it's not directly related to games or Nvidia hardware, but this forum is one of the last bastions of stereo vision enthusiasm and knowledge on this miserable planet.

Basically, many 3D movies nowadays, if watched on a quality TV like the passive OLEDs, are more than decent.
Real 3D is mostly gone, but the conversion process is now top quality if studios want to fork the cash for it.

On a loosely subjective spectrum of 3D strenght from high to low, the situation with 3D movies viewed at home is:

1. Top 3D quality, hyperstereovision
Movies done by nWave studio - Sammy's Adventure, Son of Bigfoot, Thunder the cat, etc

2. Strong 3d conversion, lots of convergence and depth
The recent movies in the Avengers series (Doctor Strange, Thor Ragnarok etc).
Other movies, like the two Ninja Turtles, The Young And Prodigious T.S. Spivet, there are many movies that have strong 3D depth incredibly. Watch the Step Up dance scenes ...

3. Great 3D in recent movies, generally the conversion process getting better
Kong Skull Island, San Andreas, Fantastic Beasts, too many ...

4. More subtle/nuanced 3D layers, but serving the movie greatly
Gravity, Mad Max Fury Road, Passengers, The Martian, Hugo, too many too list


I usually buy the movie then rip them to a file. Then I can watch them whenever I wish off an external drive.
The awesome thing about these movies is that the same phenomenon that we discovered with games applies here too: no matter how crappy or boring the movie, just by virtue of it being in 3D elevates it to a superior entertaining experience. Almost every night, before going to sleep, no matter what we've done that day, what other 3D games we might have played, me and the missus go for a 3D movie session, to makes us forget that this amazing technology will soon disappear.

Enjoy it while it lasts, folks. TVs are not made anymore, and more and more studios are no longer putting the 3D version on disk for home viewing - even if they paid for the conversion process already. Even studios like Nwave which are known among the aficionados as the producers of the strongest 3D material on Earth are rumored to not get The Queen's Corgi on disk. It would be their first, but a sign of things to come.

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