Asus VG278H vs LG OLED55C6P, worth the investment? Need opinion please
Im planning to buy a LG OLED55B6P or a LG OLED55C6P to replace my Asus VG278H (27 inches, 1080p) but i will like to have opinion of LG OLED owners if it´s worth the money. (Around 2200 Euros in my country)
I like to play games above 40fps and I have a Nvidia GTX170 which i think may be not enough to run modern games like witcher 3 and others above that 40fps at 4k, that´s why i think maybe im fine with my Asus monitor at 1080p.
I sit at around 50cm from my 27" screen so I think the Field Of View will be similar in the two screens
What do you think guys?
Im planning to buy a LG OLED55B6P or a LG OLED55C6P to replace my Asus VG278H (27 inches, 1080p) but i will like to have opinion of LG OLED owners if it´s worth the money. (Around 2200 Euros in my country)
I like to play games above 40fps and I have a Nvidia GTX170 which i think may be not enough to run modern games like witcher 3 and others above that 40fps at 4k, that´s why i think maybe im fine with my Asus monitor at 1080p.
I sit at around 50cm from my 27" screen so I think the Field Of View will be similar in the two screens
What do you think guys?
[quote="Enzel02"]Im planning to buy a LG OLED55B6P or a LG OLED55C6P to replace my Asus VG278H (27 inches, 1080p) but i will like to have opinion of LG OLED owners if it´s worth the money. (Around 2200 Euros in my country)
I like to play games above 40fps and I have a Nvidia GTX170 which i think may be not enough to run modern games like witcher 3 and others above that 40fps at 4k, that´s why i think maybe im fine with my Asus monitor at 1080p.
I sit at around 50cm from my 27" screen so I think the Field Of View will be similar in the two screens
What do you think guys?[/quote]
If you have a 1070 GTX you will be lucky to get 20-25 frames at 4k on LG 4K TV. I purchased a LG 55UH8500 non OLED most games are not playable @ 4k on my system . I will wait and use the TV as a spare I already own 3 Samsung's 3D TV which work prefect using the original Acer Edid override or using Hdmi checkerboard @ 1080P.
Enzel02 said:Im planning to buy a LG OLED55B6P or a LG OLED55C6P to replace my Asus VG278H (27 inches, 1080p) but i will like to have opinion of LG OLED owners if it´s worth the money. (Around 2200 Euros in my country)
I like to play games above 40fps and I have a Nvidia GTX170 which i think may be not enough to run modern games like witcher 3 and others above that 40fps at 4k, that´s why i think maybe im fine with my Asus monitor at 1080p.
I sit at around 50cm from my 27" screen so I think the Field Of View will be similar in the two screens
What do you think guys?
If you have a 1070 GTX you will be lucky to get 20-25 frames at 4k on LG 4K TV. I purchased a LG 55UH8500 non OLED most games are not playable @ 4k on my system . I will wait and use the TV as a spare I already own 3 Samsung's 3D TV which work prefect using the original Acer Edid override or using Hdmi checkerboard @ 1080P.
Gigabyte Z370 Gaming 7 32GB Ram i9-9900K GigaByte Aorus Extreme Gaming 2080TI (single) Game Blaster Z Windows 10 X64 build #17763.195 Define R6 Blackout Case Corsair H110i GTX Sandisk 1TB (OS) SanDisk 2TB SSD (Games) Seagate EXOs 8 and 12 TB drives Samsung UN46c7000 HD TV Samsung UN55HU9000 UHD TVCurrently using ACER PASSIVE EDID override on 3D TVs LG 55
4K 3D Is NOT THERE (yet).
I am using 3x Asus 27' screens (see my sig) in Surround which is CLOSE to 4K (but not there exactly) and in Witcher 3 I get around 40-45FPS on 2x980Tis (that are clocked to 1500Mhz - in any test they are "equivalent-ish" to GTX1080's. So 2x1080 performance will get you this...)
4K proper geometry 3D is not there yet :(
Personal advice... keep the monitor even if you buy a TV! (you'll see what I am talking about;) )
I am using 3x Asus 27' screens (see my sig) in Surround which is CLOSE to 4K (but not there exactly) and in Witcher 3 I get around 40-45FPS on 2x980Tis (that are clocked to 1500Mhz - in any test they are "equivalent-ish" to GTX1080's. So 2x1080 performance will get you this...)
4K proper geometry 3D is not there yet :(
Personal advice... keep the monitor even if you buy a TV! (you'll see what I am talking about;) )
1x Palit RTX 2080Ti Pro Gaming OC(watercooled and overclocked to hell)
3x 3D Vision Ready Asus VG278HE monitors (5760x1080).
Intel i9 9900K (overclocked to 5.3 and watercooled ofc).
Asus Maximus XI Hero Mobo.
16 GB Team Group T-Force Dark Pro DDR4 @ 3600.
Lots of Disks:
- Raid 0 - 256GB Sandisk Extreme SSD.
- Raid 0 - WD Black - 2TB.
- SanDisk SSD PLUS 480 GB.
- Intel 760p 256GB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD.
Creative Sound Blaster Z.
Windows 10 x64 Pro.
etc
If you hold the trigger for now, keep in mind that they have announced that they will no longer be offering 3D HDTVs.
So buy "new" now or used later.
As far as SbS, only the VG278HE supported it via it's HDMI 1.4 connection and "integrated" emitter. Also, this feature was not available when they were initially released, but was added on as a feature in later product runs. of this model. This was possible, because the internal emitter used it's own software to control the sync signal. Whereas, external emitters are controlled by Nvidia's drivers and do not work with HDMI 1.4 on any monitors or TVs.
If you hold the trigger for now, keep in mind that they have announced that they will no longer be offering 3D HDTVs.
So buy "new" now or used later.
As far as SbS, only the VG278HE supported it via it's HDMI 1.4 connection and "integrated" emitter. Also, this feature was not available when they were initially released, but was added on as a feature in later product runs. of this model. This was possible, because the internal emitter used it's own software to control the sync signal. Whereas, external emitters are controlled by Nvidia's drivers and do not work with HDMI 1.4 on any monitors or TVs.
Is it possible to play games in 3D 1080p on the LG OLED55C6P with no issues? Doe's it eliminate the ghosting? I don't really care about 4K 3D(too much horsepower required) but would like to play stuff 2D 4K though. The last TV I bought was the LG 49UH850V which had awful 3D, so bad I got a refund.
Is it possible to play games in 3D 1080p on the LG OLED55C6P with no issues? Doe's it eliminate the ghosting? I don't really care about 4K 3D(too much horsepower required) but would like to play stuff 2D 4K though. The last TV I bought was the LG 49UH850V which had awful 3D, so bad I got a refund.
Guys do some research, in multiple topics in this forum me and some users posted that you can play in any resolution with third party upscaling at 4K TV's. So stop thinking about buying, buy it, LG removed 3D from 2017 models. If you can afford buy an an OLED, don't have the money (like me) than buy the LED models (they are very good).
IMO even in 1080p upscaled games 4K LG TVs are far superior to 3D Vision monitors. Tridef (any game), 3Dmigoto (DX11 games) and GeDoSaTo (DX9) can upscale games to 4K. Some may crash, some may not work right, but with this methods you can play most of the old and new games without an issue.
Tridef has the best upscaling quality, very good, so try it first. If it does not work, then try other options.
What is so good about passive 4K 3D:
- Great and accurate colors, it destroys 3DV monitors in color quality and accuracy.
- If you're not using sbs or T&B you don't need vsync, so more fluid gameplay, at least I'm playing with vsync off.
- Giant FOV (55" are the best), no visible pixels (similar to 1440p 3DV monitors).
I use my BenQ 27" 3DV monitor rarely, if a new power hungry game refuses to work with any upscaling method, then I play with BenQ.
Guys do some research, in multiple topics in this forum me and some users posted that you can play in any resolution with third party upscaling at 4K TV's. So stop thinking about buying, buy it, LG removed 3D from 2017 models. If you can afford buy an an OLED, don't have the money (like me) than buy the LED models (they are very good).
IMO even in 1080p upscaled games 4K LG TVs are far superior to 3D Vision monitors. Tridef (any game), 3Dmigoto (DX11 games) and GeDoSaTo (DX9) can upscale games to 4K. Some may crash, some may not work right, but with this methods you can play most of the old and new games without an issue.
Tridef has the best upscaling quality, very good, so try it first. If it does not work, then try other options.
What is so good about passive 4K 3D:
- Great and accurate colors, it destroys 3DV monitors in color quality and accuracy.
- If you're not using sbs or T&B you don't need vsync, so more fluid gameplay, at least I'm playing with vsync off.
- Giant FOV (55" are the best), no visible pixels (similar to 1440p 3DV monitors).
I use my BenQ 27" 3DV monitor rarely, if a new power hungry game refuses to work with any upscaling method, then I play with BenQ.
Asus Deluxe Gen3, Core i7 2700k@4.5Ghz, GTX 1080Ti, 16 GB RAM, Win 7 64bit
Samsung Pro 250 GB SSD, 4 TB WD Black (games)
Benq XL2720Z
[quote="Enzel02"]Im planning to buy a LG OLED55B6P or a LG OLED55C6P to replace my Asus VG278H (27 inches, 1080p) but i will like to have opinion of LG OLED owners if it´s worth the money. (Around 2200 Euros in my country)
I like to play games above 40fps and I have a Nvidia GTX170 which i think may be not enough to run modern games like witcher 3 and others above that 40fps at 4k, that´s why i think maybe im fine with my Asus monitor at 1080p.
I sit at around 50cm from my 27" screen so I think the Field Of View will be similar in the two screens
What do you think guys?[/quote]
I have both the same monitor and just bought the Lg TV and I am very happy. I have both displays hooked to my computer. Like Lacuna said if you can buy it. Do it. I wasn't particularly looking for a new 4k TV, but LG removed 3d from their line up. that forced me to buy the TV, and I couldn't be happier. It is hands down the best 3D experience.
The only thing I regret is not being able to buy a second one in case this one breaks down the line.
Enzel02 said:Im planning to buy a LG OLED55B6P or a LG OLED55C6P to replace my Asus VG278H (27 inches, 1080p) but i will like to have opinion of LG OLED owners if it´s worth the money. (Around 2200 Euros in my country)
I like to play games above 40fps and I have a Nvidia GTX170 which i think may be not enough to run modern games like witcher 3 and others above that 40fps at 4k, that´s why i think maybe im fine with my Asus monitor at 1080p.
I sit at around 50cm from my 27" screen so I think the Field Of View will be similar in the two screens
What do you think guys?
I have both the same monitor and just bought the Lg TV and I am very happy. I have both displays hooked to my computer. Like Lacuna said if you can buy it. Do it. I wasn't particularly looking for a new 4k TV, but LG removed 3d from their line up. that forced me to buy the TV, and I couldn't be happier. It is hands down the best 3D experience.
The only thing I regret is not being able to buy a second one in case this one breaks down the line.
@lacuna:
I think your are DOWNscaling not UPscaling... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_scaler
If you do UPscaling (taking a 1080p and "convert" it to 4k) that is NOT PROPER 4K.
(Downscaling is what DSR does, it renders at 4K and then displays it on a lower resolution - opposed to Upscaling that renders at 1080p and makes it "fit" at 4K resolution)
As for the passive 4K 3D TVs... First of all they DON'T DO FULL FRAME 4K! (Unless they do ACTIVE 3D - like 3D Vision - and I haven't noticed any of these). What they do is more like 2K FULL frames (in terms of pixels).
Sure they LOOK better than 1080p Full Frames;) But compare a PROPER 1440p 3D Vision Monitor with your 4K Passive 3D and you'll see what I am talking about :)
The OP was asking about 4K 3D Vision (unless I misread it) which is not possible!
Like you said, if has the money he should buy it if he wants too, but the result will not be proper 4K Stereo 3D (which is actually 8K in terms of 2D - Full frames Side by Side - pixel wise).
I know, this is a "pedantic" reply but I see some terms miss-used and I feel that at least us should know what we are talking about;)
If you do UPscaling (taking a 1080p and "convert" it to 4k) that is NOT PROPER 4K.
(Downscaling is what DSR does, it renders at 4K and then displays it on a lower resolution - opposed to Upscaling that renders at 1080p and makes it "fit" at 4K resolution)
As for the passive 4K 3D TVs... First of all they DON'T DO FULL FRAME 4K! (Unless they do ACTIVE 3D - like 3D Vision - and I haven't noticed any of these). What they do is more like 2K FULL frames (in terms of pixels).
Sure they LOOK better than 1080p Full Frames;) But compare a PROPER 1440p 3D Vision Monitor with your 4K Passive 3D and you'll see what I am talking about :)
The OP was asking about 4K 3D Vision (unless I misread it) which is not possible!
Like you said, if has the money he should buy it if he wants too, but the result will not be proper 4K Stereo 3D (which is actually 8K in terms of 2D - Full frames Side by Side - pixel wise).
I know, this is a "pedantic" reply but I see some terms miss-used and I feel that at least us should know what we are talking about;)
1x Palit RTX 2080Ti Pro Gaming OC(watercooled and overclocked to hell)
3x 3D Vision Ready Asus VG278HE monitors (5760x1080).
Intel i9 9900K (overclocked to 5.3 and watercooled ofc).
Asus Maximus XI Hero Mobo.
16 GB Team Group T-Force Dark Pro DDR4 @ 3600.
Lots of Disks:
- Raid 0 - 256GB Sandisk Extreme SSD.
- Raid 0 - WD Black - 2TB.
- SanDisk SSD PLUS 480 GB.
- Intel 760p 256GB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD.
Creative Sound Blaster Z.
Windows 10 x64 Pro.
etc
I think he does mean upscaling.
I believe he is letting the TV post process the 1080 image to 4K.
Thus gaining the performance of only rendering @1080, but incurring a penalty in response time/lag due to the post processing imposed by the TV.
@helifax, yes, I mean upscaling, but for your explanation correct term must be upscaling and downscaling IMO, not just downscaling. Upscale 1080p to 4K than downscale it to 2K full frames.
When I'm playing Dreamfall Chapters I open the game with Tridef, disable Tridef's 3D, then activate 3D Vision. Resolution is set to 1080p and 3D works without an issue. Normally with just 3DV you only see double image, but Tridef not just upscales the 1080p rendered image to 4K resolution but also corrects the aligning for FPR filter, so that TV recognizes 3D.
@helifax, yes, I mean upscaling, but for your explanation correct term must be upscaling and downscaling IMO, not just downscaling. Upscale 1080p to 4K than downscale it to 2K full frames.
When I'm playing Dreamfall Chapters I open the game with Tridef, disable Tridef's 3D, then activate 3D Vision. Resolution is set to 1080p and 3D works without an issue. Normally with just 3DV you only see double image, but Tridef not just upscales the 1080p rendered image to 4K resolution but also corrects the aligning for FPR filter, so that TV recognizes 3D.
Asus Deluxe Gen3, Core i7 2700k@4.5Ghz, GTX 1080Ti, 16 GB RAM, Win 7 64bit
Samsung Pro 250 GB SSD, 4 TB WD Black (games)
Benq XL2720Z
I like to play games above 40fps and I have a Nvidia GTX170 which i think may be not enough to run modern games like witcher 3 and others above that 40fps at 4k, that´s why i think maybe im fine with my Asus monitor at 1080p.
I sit at around 50cm from my 27" screen so I think the Field Of View will be similar in the two screens
What do you think guys?
If you have a 1070 GTX you will be lucky to get 20-25 frames at 4k on LG 4K TV. I purchased a LG 55UH8500 non OLED most games are not playable @ 4k on my system . I will wait and use the TV as a spare I already own 3 Samsung's 3D TV which work prefect using the original Acer Edid override or using Hdmi checkerboard @ 1080P.
Gigabyte Z370 Gaming 7 32GB Ram i9-9900K GigaByte Aorus Extreme Gaming 2080TI (single) Game Blaster Z Windows 10 X64 build #17763.195 Define R6 Blackout Case Corsair H110i GTX Sandisk 1TB (OS) SanDisk 2TB SSD (Games) Seagate EXOs 8 and 12 TB drives Samsung UN46c7000 HD TV Samsung UN55HU9000 UHD TVCurrently using ACER PASSIVE EDID override on 3D TVs LG 55
I am using 3x Asus 27' screens (see my sig) in Surround which is CLOSE to 4K (but not there exactly) and in Witcher 3 I get around 40-45FPS on 2x980Tis (that are clocked to 1500Mhz - in any test they are "equivalent-ish" to GTX1080's. So 2x1080 performance will get you this...)
4K proper geometry 3D is not there yet :(
Personal advice... keep the monitor even if you buy a TV! (you'll see what I am talking about;) )
1x Palit RTX 2080Ti Pro Gaming OC(watercooled and overclocked to hell)
3x 3D Vision Ready Asus VG278HE monitors (5760x1080).
Intel i9 9900K (overclocked to 5.3 and watercooled ofc).
Asus Maximus XI Hero Mobo.
16 GB Team Group T-Force Dark Pro DDR4 @ 3600.
Lots of Disks:
- Raid 0 - 256GB Sandisk Extreme SSD.
- Raid 0 - WD Black - 2TB.
- SanDisk SSD PLUS 480 GB.
- Intel 760p 256GB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD.
Creative Sound Blaster Z.
Windows 10 x64 Pro.
etc
My website with my fixes and OpenGL to 3D Vision wrapper:
http://3dsurroundgaming.com
(If you like some of the stuff that I've done and want to donate something, you can do it with PayPal at tavyhome@gmail.com)
So buy "new" now or used later.
As far as SbS, only the VG278HE supported it via it's HDMI 1.4 connection and "integrated" emitter. Also, this feature was not available when they were initially released, but was added on as a feature in later product runs. of this model. This was possible, because the internal emitter used it's own software to control the sync signal. Whereas, external emitters are controlled by Nvidia's drivers and do not work with HDMI 1.4 on any monitors or TVs.
IMO even in 1080p upscaled games 4K LG TVs are far superior to 3D Vision monitors. Tridef (any game), 3Dmigoto (DX11 games) and GeDoSaTo (DX9) can upscale games to 4K. Some may crash, some may not work right, but with this methods you can play most of the old and new games without an issue.
Tridef has the best upscaling quality, very good, so try it first. If it does not work, then try other options.
What is so good about passive 4K 3D:
- Great and accurate colors, it destroys 3DV monitors in color quality and accuracy.
- If you're not using sbs or T&B you don't need vsync, so more fluid gameplay, at least I'm playing with vsync off.
- Giant FOV (55" are the best), no visible pixels (similar to 1440p 3DV monitors).
I use my BenQ 27" 3DV monitor rarely, if a new power hungry game refuses to work with any upscaling method, then I play with BenQ.
Asus Deluxe Gen3, Core i7 2700k@4.5Ghz, GTX 1080Ti, 16 GB RAM, Win 7 64bit
Samsung Pro 250 GB SSD, 4 TB WD Black (games)
Benq XL2720Z
I have both the same monitor and just bought the Lg TV and I am very happy. I have both displays hooked to my computer. Like Lacuna said if you can buy it. Do it. I wasn't particularly looking for a new 4k TV, but LG removed 3d from their line up. that forced me to buy the TV, and I couldn't be happier. It is hands down the best 3D experience.
The only thing I regret is not being able to buy a second one in case this one breaks down the line.
I think your are DOWNscaling not UPscaling... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_scaler
If you do UPscaling (taking a 1080p and "convert" it to 4k) that is NOT PROPER 4K.
(Downscaling is what DSR does, it renders at 4K and then displays it on a lower resolution - opposed to Upscaling that renders at 1080p and makes it "fit" at 4K resolution)
As for the passive 4K 3D TVs... First of all they DON'T DO FULL FRAME 4K! (Unless they do ACTIVE 3D - like 3D Vision - and I haven't noticed any of these). What they do is more like 2K FULL frames (in terms of pixels).
Sure they LOOK better than 1080p Full Frames;) But compare a PROPER 1440p 3D Vision Monitor with your 4K Passive 3D and you'll see what I am talking about :)
The OP was asking about 4K 3D Vision (unless I misread it) which is not possible!
Like you said, if has the money he should buy it if he wants too, but the result will not be proper 4K Stereo 3D (which is actually 8K in terms of 2D - Full frames Side by Side - pixel wise).
I know, this is a "pedantic" reply but I see some terms miss-used and I feel that at least us should know what we are talking about;)
1x Palit RTX 2080Ti Pro Gaming OC(watercooled and overclocked to hell)
3x 3D Vision Ready Asus VG278HE monitors (5760x1080).
Intel i9 9900K (overclocked to 5.3 and watercooled ofc).
Asus Maximus XI Hero Mobo.
16 GB Team Group T-Force Dark Pro DDR4 @ 3600.
Lots of Disks:
- Raid 0 - 256GB Sandisk Extreme SSD.
- Raid 0 - WD Black - 2TB.
- SanDisk SSD PLUS 480 GB.
- Intel 760p 256GB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD.
Creative Sound Blaster Z.
Windows 10 x64 Pro.
etc
My website with my fixes and OpenGL to 3D Vision wrapper:
http://3dsurroundgaming.com
(If you like some of the stuff that I've done and want to donate something, you can do it with PayPal at tavyhome@gmail.com)
I believe he is letting the TV post process the 1080 image to 4K.
Thus gaining the performance of only rendering @1080, but incurring a penalty in response time/lag due to the post processing imposed by the TV.
When I'm playing Dreamfall Chapters I open the game with Tridef, disable Tridef's 3D, then activate 3D Vision. Resolution is set to 1080p and 3D works without an issue. Normally with just 3DV you only see double image, but Tridef not just upscales the 1080p rendered image to 4K resolution but also corrects the aligning for FPR filter, so that TV recognizes 3D.
Asus Deluxe Gen3, Core i7 2700k@4.5Ghz, GTX 1080Ti, 16 GB RAM, Win 7 64bit
Samsung Pro 250 GB SSD, 4 TB WD Black (games)
Benq XL2720Z