You can find my complete rabbit-series for my first 55EF950v in posting #1 of this thread. Also have a look at my Doom-screenshots here
[url]https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/943900/3d-vision/search-information-about-edid-for-3dvision-on-lg-oled-4k-55ef950v-55ef9500-/5/[/url]
posting #72 (look at the better/worse_angle-screenshots)
[quote="rustyk"]Yes to be fair even with DLP you can get crosstalk, but that's just because you still have to wear glasses and the LCD can't block 100% of the light.
Same with passive, nothing relying on polarisation works 100%, so like you say, HMD/one projection per eye is the only 100% way to eradicate crosstalk.[/quote]True.
But:
On active screens, latency between screen and glasses, adds crosstalk if the TV/monitor is not set correcty. It happens with topend hardware, with to much software correcting. Expensive TV/monitor, won't be better in 3D than cheaper one, it's proved and tested by myself.
On passive screens, the remanence (French word meaning that pixels won't change colors as quickly as it should, you call that ghosting, I don't like this so much cause it may be confusing) won't add any crosstalk, only both filters will (TV and glasses), because the left and right pictures are not diplayed on the same pixels/lignes.
Change the settings of an passive screen, won't be helpful against crosstalk because the 3D is made by the plastic filter sticked on the screen, no settings will really alter plastics...
Crosstalk is more visible on plain colors area.
More séparation = more crosstalk
So with the same % of separation in games crosstalk will be more visible on monitors than TVs.
Movies/documentaries, have very very very low separation, so crosstalk is rarely a huge problem it only make the picture blurred.
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rustyk said:Yes to be fair even with DLP you can get crosstalk, but that's just because you still have to wear glasses and the LCD can't block 100% of the light.
Same with passive, nothing relying on polarisation works 100%, so like you say, HMD/one projection per eye is the only 100% way to eradicate crosstalk.
True.
But:
On active screens, latency between screen and glasses, adds crosstalk if the TV/monitor is not set correcty. It happens with topend hardware, with to much software correcting. Expensive TV/monitor, won't be better in 3D than cheaper one, it's proved and tested by myself.
On passive screens, the remanence (French word meaning that pixels won't change colors as quickly as it should, you call that ghosting, I don't like this so much cause it may be confusing) won't add any crosstalk, only both filters will (TV and glasses), because the left and right pictures are not diplayed on the same pixels/lignes.
Change the settings of an passive screen, won't be helpful against crosstalk because the 3D is made by the plastic filter sticked on the screen, no settings will really alter plastics...
Crosstalk is more visible on plain colors area.
More séparation = more crosstalk
So with the same % of separation in games crosstalk will be more visible on monitors than TVs.
Movies/documentaries, have very very very low separation, so crosstalk is rarely a huge problem it only make the picture blurred.
[/quote][quote="lohan"]I already tested several games where I have absolutely no crosstalk.
But then there are games where the crosstalk is quite obvious (Doom and also WWE 2K16 in specific parts).[/quote]With the same screen, regardless the sources, the % of crosstalk won't ever change, it will always be there, you just see it less in certain situation, like detailed picture or weak contrast.
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lohan said:I already tested several games where I have absolutely no crosstalk.
But then there are games where the crosstalk is quite obvious (Doom and also WWE 2K16 in specific parts).
With the same screen, regardless the sources, the % of crosstalk won't ever change, it will always be there, you just see it less in certain situation, like detailed picture or weak contrast.
[quote="lohan"]You can find my complete rabbit-series for my first 55EF950v in posting #1 of this thread. Also have a look at my Doom-screenshots here[/quote]I've already seen them, I've quote you about the 60" TV.
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[quote="Dugom"][quote="D-Man11"]Sorry, but YouTube isn't going to provide any kind of valid test results.
You need to download -- Dug[s]a[/s] [b]o[/b]m's -- tests and run them via Nvidia's viewer. he has the link below the video.[/quote]If you use 3DTV, you just have to put the rabbit video in full screen from YT and set you TV in 3D sibe by side... No download needed.[/quote]
Video introduces too many variables from system to system and browser to browsers, etc...
As I said, it's not a valid method of comparison.
Also in post #30, you are quoting me as saying something that someone else said :(
D-Man11 said:Sorry, but YouTube isn't going to provide any kind of valid test results.
You need to download -- Dugaom's -- tests and run them via Nvidia's viewer. he has the link below the video.
If you use 3DTV, you just have to put the rabbit video in full screen from YT and set you TV in 3D sibe by side... No download needed.
Video introduces too many variables from system to system and browser to browsers, etc...
As I said, it's not a valid method of comparison.
Also in post #30, you are quoting me as saying something that someone else said :(
[quote="Dugom"]On active screens, latency between screen and glasses, adds crosstalk if the TV/monitor is not set correcty. [/quote]
Correct, sync delay is the cause of some crosstalk.
[quote="Dugom"]Change the settings of an passive screen, won't be helpful against crosstalk because the 3D is made by the plastic filter sticked on the screen, no settings will really alter plastics....[/quote]
This is incorrect, on a display using a Film pattern retarder any number of things can cause the crosstalk to be worse. Post Processing effects, connection type, extension flag, response time, brightness, contrast, etc....
[quote="Dugom"]More séparation = more crosstalk
So with the same % of separation in games crosstalk will be more visible on monitors than TVs.[/quote]
I'm not sure what you are saying here, but most TVs have a very poor response time, even in game mode. In my experience, monitors have less crosstalk than TVs.
Dugom said:On active screens, latency between screen and glasses, adds crosstalk if the TV/monitor is not set correcty.
Correct, sync delay is the cause of some crosstalk.
Dugom said:Change the settings of an passive screen, won't be helpful against crosstalk because the 3D is made by the plastic filter sticked on the screen, no settings will really alter plastics....
This is incorrect, on a display using a Film pattern retarder any number of things can cause the crosstalk to be worse. Post Processing effects, connection type, extension flag, response time, brightness, contrast, etc....
Dugom said:More séparation = more crosstalk
So with the same % of separation in games crosstalk will be more visible on monitors than TVs.
I'm not sure what you are saying here, but most TVs have a very poor response time, even in game mode. In my experience, monitors have less crosstalk than TVs.
[quote="D-Man11"][quote="Dugom"]More séparation = more crosstalk
So with the same % of separation in games crosstalk will be more visible on monitors than TVs.[/quote]I'm not sure what you are saying here, but most TVs have a very poor response time, even in game mode. [/quote]Separation is the distance between the two images. To get the same % of 3D, TVs need less separtion than monitors. So if more separation means more detected crosstalk, TV are less prone to crosstalk detection for the same amount of 3D.
[quote="D-Man11"]In my experience, monitors have less crosstalk than TVs.[/quote]I haven't taken into account the technology of the screens part (TN vs VA most of the time).
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Dugom said:More séparation = more crosstalk
So with the same % of separation in games crosstalk will be more visible on monitors than TVs.
I'm not sure what you are saying here, but most TVs have a very poor response time, even in game mode.
Separation is the distance between the two images. To get the same % of 3D, TVs need less separtion than monitors. So if more separation means more detected crosstalk, TV are less prone to crosstalk detection for the same amount of 3D.
D-Man11 said:In my experience, monitors have less crosstalk than TVs.
I haven't taken into account the technology of the screens part (TN vs VA most of the time).
[quote="D-Man11"][quote="Dugom"]Change the settings of an passive screen, won't be helpful against crosstalk because the 3D is made by the plastic filter sticked on the screen, no settings will really alter plastics...[/quote]This is incorrect, on a display using a Film pattern retarder any number of things can cause the crosstalk to be worse. Post Processing effects, connection type, extension flag, response time, brightness, contrast, etc...[/quote]If the screen is bugged from the start yes maybe, but it will never make the filter better, if the filter is cheap and improperly installed, it will stay cheap and improperly installed. If the white goes through the black, you can modify the all screen, it will still let the white pass...
You can see my pictures of the rabbit, no setting will ever make it better, you can see that the light goes through, so it's will be for ever. Passive filters sucks. Crosstalk wins:
[url]https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/950640/3d-vision/lg-oled-4k-tv-crosstalk-ghosting-/post/4937795/#4937795[/url]
If you are not agree, then show me before and after your magic settings (from the rabbit test picture), then we will gladly discuss it.
Words are great but pictures talk better.
I've read 2 complet threads where lohan asked questions about crosstalk, after 80 messages and multiple setting attempts, he still hasn't better 3D. If only one of you had given him pictures from the rabbit, in only 1 post the crosstalk subjet would have been closed. So many stories vs 1 tiny picture... Eh, maybe he had time.
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Dugom said:Change the settings of an passive screen, won't be helpful against crosstalk because the 3D is made by the plastic filter sticked on the screen, no settings will really alter plastics...
This is incorrect, on a display using a Film pattern retarder any number of things can cause the crosstalk to be worse. Post Processing effects, connection type, extension flag, response time, brightness, contrast, etc...
If the screen is bugged from the start yes maybe, but it will never make the filter better, if the filter is cheap and improperly installed, it will stay cheap and improperly installed. If the white goes through the black, you can modify the all screen, it will still let the white pass...
If you are not agree, then show me before and after your magic settings (from the rabbit test picture), then we will gladly discuss it.
Words are great but pictures talk better.
I've read 2 complet threads where lohan asked questions about crosstalk, after 80 messages and multiple setting attempts, he still hasn't better 3D. If only one of you had given him pictures from the rabbit, in only 1 post the crosstalk subjet would have been closed. So many stories vs 1 tiny picture... Eh, maybe he had time.
[quote="Dugom"]Change the settings of an passive screen, won't be helpful against crosstalk because the 3D is made by the plastic filter sticked on the screen, no settings will really alter plastics...[/quote]
Oh I see, reading this closer, your referring to an improperly installed Film Pattern Retarder.
Correct, if that is the problem, only a new display will help.
Dugom said:Change the settings of an passive screen, won't be helpful against crosstalk because the 3D is made by the plastic filter sticked on the screen, no settings will really alter plastics...
Oh I see, reading this closer, your referring to an improperly installed Film Pattern Retarder.
Correct, if that is the problem, only a new display will help.
[quote="D-Man11"]Oh I see, reading this closer, your referring to an improperly installed Film Pattern Retarder.
Correct, if that is the problem, only a new display will help.[/quote]I talk about what I see on my 4000€ OLED TV. Read above (#40).
Do you really think that a new model will be better? I don't. It's just a shitty plastic...
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D-Man11 said:Oh I see, reading this closer, your referring to an improperly installed Film Pattern Retarder.
Correct, if that is the problem, only a new display will help.
I talk about what I see on my 4000€ OLED TV. Read above (#40).
Do you really think that a new model will be better? I don't. It's just a shitty plastic...
Hi Dugom (and the others)!
I did run your rabbit test when I first got my TV and went on a similar crosstalk discovery quest to Lohan. For what it's worth, I did post pictures of the results, just can't remember if they were here, on AVFORUMS (UK based) or AVSFORUMS. I know they were similar to what you posted, i.e. you can still see the rabbit.
I kind of gave up because on the other sites people just didn't seem bothered enough to run tests and post pictures ironically. That's why I tried the numbers test and the simple black/white test, I was trying to get someone else to at least attempt it and collect some real data points.
To my mind, these unknowns have been caused by lack of proof, for example people not posting test results, but mainly it's been caused by all the reviews that state over and over that there is 'no crosstalk'. Users on forums repeat that all the time and it doesn't help.
I think it's partly because some people are so convinced that passive it superior to active, that they refuse to believe that crosstalk is still an issue.
Anyway, I love my TV and now I've stopped stressing about it I can enjoy it properly.
*edit* Actually I'm guessing you've read what I wrote here : https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/937314/3d-vision/lg-55eg960v-9600-passive-3d/2/
I did run your rabbit test when I first got my TV and went on a similar crosstalk discovery quest to Lohan. For what it's worth, I did post pictures of the results, just can't remember if they were here, on AVFORUMS (UK based) or AVSFORUMS. I know they were similar to what you posted, i.e. you can still see the rabbit.
I kind of gave up because on the other sites people just didn't seem bothered enough to run tests and post pictures ironically. That's why I tried the numbers test and the simple black/white test, I was trying to get someone else to at least attempt it and collect some real data points.
To my mind, these unknowns have been caused by lack of proof, for example people not posting test results, but mainly it's been caused by all the reviews that state over and over that there is 'no crosstalk'. Users on forums repeat that all the time and it doesn't help.
I think it's partly because some people are so convinced that passive it superior to active, that they refuse to believe that crosstalk is still an issue.
Anyway, I love my TV and now I've stopped stressing about it I can enjoy it properly.
Exactly, rustyk!
What bothered me was the simple uncertainty whether my unit was a faulty one or not. I absolutely love this TV and I can live with the crosstalk knowing that my TV is ok and that there is nothing wrong with it. Now we have enough picture-proven "data" from different users that seem to confirm that this OLED series' crosstalk performance is pretty much the same for every user.
Indeed the uncertainty is fed by users who claim that there is nearly no crosstalk at all and I can confirm this for low separation 3D movies or demos. Since I use high depth and very high convergence settings for gaming it seems just normal that I witness way more crosstalk compared to watching a movie. I told you about this LG 4K 3D demo video where I barely noticed any ghosting at all. So it's no surprise if users over at AVS or any other non-gaming specific forum claim that this OLED-series is ghosting free! And thus it also doesn't come as a surprise that every 3D gamer here was confused at one point about the crosstalk performance of his TV (having in mind that other - certainly non-gamers - declared this OLED-series to be ghosting-free).
Knowing that my current TV seems to perform just normal settles the question for me and now I am able to finally enjoy this awesome TV. When my replacement unit arrives in a few weeks (see #26 of this thread) I will do the same tests again of course just to see if they improved on the crosstalk-matter for the new 2016-series but I definitely won't send it back this time in case it turns out that the 2016 series' crosstalk performance is the same as last year's!
What bothered me was the simple uncertainty whether my unit was a faulty one or not. I absolutely love this TV and I can live with the crosstalk knowing that my TV is ok and that there is nothing wrong with it. Now we have enough picture-proven "data" from different users that seem to confirm that this OLED series' crosstalk performance is pretty much the same for every user.
Indeed the uncertainty is fed by users who claim that there is nearly no crosstalk at all and I can confirm this for low separation 3D movies or demos. Since I use high depth and very high convergence settings for gaming it seems just normal that I witness way more crosstalk compared to watching a movie. I told you about this LG 4K 3D demo video where I barely noticed any ghosting at all. So it's no surprise if users over at AVS or any other non-gaming specific forum claim that this OLED-series is ghosting free! And thus it also doesn't come as a surprise that every 3D gamer here was confused at one point about the crosstalk performance of his TV (having in mind that other - certainly non-gamers - declared this OLED-series to be ghosting-free).
Knowing that my current TV seems to perform just normal settles the question for me and now I am able to finally enjoy this awesome TV. When my replacement unit arrives in a few weeks (see #26 of this thread) I will do the same tests again of course just to see if they improved on the crosstalk-matter for the new 2016-series but I definitely won't send it back this time in case it turns out that the 2016 series' crosstalk performance is the same as last year's!
I am a little bit confused now. Since I was not able to clarify if the LG Cinema 3D glasses use circular polarization (which reduces the vertical sensitivity) I ordered a pack of 4 x circular polarized 3D glasses that claimed to be compatible with all LG Cinema 3D TVs.
I did this just to confirm that there is no difference at all (assuming that the LG glasses should also be circular polarized). I am a little bit surprised now that the new glasses indeed improve on the vertical sensitivity. Tilting my head up and down has significantly less impact on the crosstalk than when using the included LG glasses. I am not saying that overall ghosting is reduced but the new glasses seem to improve on the vertical sensitivity.
I am a little bit confused now. Since I was not able to clarify if the LG Cinema 3D glasses use circular polarization (which reduces the vertical sensitivity) I ordered a pack of 4 x circular polarized 3D glasses that claimed to be compatible with all LG Cinema 3D TVs.
I did this just to confirm that there is no difference at all (assuming that the LG glasses should also be circular polarized). I am a little bit surprised now that the new glasses indeed improve on the vertical sensitivity. Tilting my head up and down has significantly less impact on the crosstalk than when using the included LG glasses. I am not saying that overall ghosting is reduced but the new glasses seem to improve on the vertical sensitivity.
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https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/943900/3d-vision/search-information-about-edid-for-3dvision-on-lg-oled-4k-55ef950v-55ef9500-/5/
posting #72 (look at the better/worse_angle-screenshots)
But:
On active screens, latency between screen and glasses, adds crosstalk if the TV/monitor is not set correcty. It happens with topend hardware, with to much software correcting. Expensive TV/monitor, won't be better in 3D than cheaper one, it's proved and tested by myself.
On passive screens, the remanence (French word meaning that pixels won't change colors as quickly as it should, you call that ghosting, I don't like this so much cause it may be confusing) won't add any crosstalk, only both filters will (TV and glasses), because the left and right pictures are not diplayed on the same pixels/lignes.
Change the settings of an passive screen, won't be helpful against crosstalk because the 3D is made by the plastic filter sticked on the screen, no settings will really alter plastics...
Crosstalk is more visible on plain colors area.
More séparation = more crosstalk
So with the same % of separation in games crosstalk will be more visible on monitors than TVs.
Movies/documentaries, have very very very low separation, so crosstalk is rarely a huge problem it only make the picture blurred.
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Video introduces too many variables from system to system and browser to browsers, etc...
As I said, it's not a valid method of comparison.
Also in post #30, you are quoting me as saying something that someone else said :(
Correct, sync delay is the cause of some crosstalk.
This is incorrect, on a display using a Film pattern retarder any number of things can cause the crosstalk to be worse. Post Processing effects, connection type, extension flag, response time, brightness, contrast, etc....
I'm not sure what you are saying here, but most TVs have a very poor response time, even in game mode. In my experience, monitors have less crosstalk than TVs.
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I haven't taken into account the technology of the screens part (TN vs VA most of the time).
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You can see my pictures of the rabbit, no setting will ever make it better, you can see that the light goes through, so it's will be for ever. Passive filters sucks. Crosstalk wins:
https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/950640/3d-vision/lg-oled-4k-tv-crosstalk-ghosting-/post/4937795/#4937795
If you are not agree, then show me before and after your magic settings (from the rabbit test picture), then we will gladly discuss it.
Words are great but pictures talk better.
I've read 2 complet threads where lohan asked questions about crosstalk, after 80 messages and multiple setting attempts, he still hasn't better 3D. If only one of you had given him pictures from the rabbit, in only 1 post the crosstalk subjet would have been closed. So many stories vs 1 tiny picture... Eh, maybe he had time.
.
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Universal fix for Unity Games
Universal fix for FrostBite 3 Games
Universal fix for TellTales Games
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Oh I see, reading this closer, your referring to an improperly installed Film Pattern Retarder.
Correct, if that is the problem, only a new display will help.
Do you really think that a new model will be better? I don't. It's just a shitty plastic...
.
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Universal fix for Unity Games
Universal fix for FrostBite 3 Games
Universal fix for TellTales Games
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I did run your rabbit test when I first got my TV and went on a similar crosstalk discovery quest to Lohan. For what it's worth, I did post pictures of the results, just can't remember if they were here, on AVFORUMS (UK based) or AVSFORUMS. I know they were similar to what you posted, i.e. you can still see the rabbit.
I kind of gave up because on the other sites people just didn't seem bothered enough to run tests and post pictures ironically. That's why I tried the numbers test and the simple black/white test, I was trying to get someone else to at least attempt it and collect some real data points.
To my mind, these unknowns have been caused by lack of proof, for example people not posting test results, but mainly it's been caused by all the reviews that state over and over that there is 'no crosstalk'. Users on forums repeat that all the time and it doesn't help.
I think it's partly because some people are so convinced that passive it superior to active, that they refuse to believe that crosstalk is still an issue.
Anyway, I love my TV and now I've stopped stressing about it I can enjoy it properly.
*edit* Actually I'm guessing you've read what I wrote here : https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/937314/3d-vision/lg-55eg960v-9600-passive-3d/2/
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What bothered me was the simple uncertainty whether my unit was a faulty one or not. I absolutely love this TV and I can live with the crosstalk knowing that my TV is ok and that there is nothing wrong with it. Now we have enough picture-proven "data" from different users that seem to confirm that this OLED series' crosstalk performance is pretty much the same for every user.
Indeed the uncertainty is fed by users who claim that there is nearly no crosstalk at all and I can confirm this for low separation 3D movies or demos. Since I use high depth and very high convergence settings for gaming it seems just normal that I witness way more crosstalk compared to watching a movie. I told you about this LG 4K 3D demo video where I barely noticed any ghosting at all. So it's no surprise if users over at AVS or any other non-gaming specific forum claim that this OLED-series is ghosting free! And thus it also doesn't come as a surprise that every 3D gamer here was confused at one point about the crosstalk performance of his TV (having in mind that other - certainly non-gamers - declared this OLED-series to be ghosting-free).
Knowing that my current TV seems to perform just normal settles the question for me and now I am able to finally enjoy this awesome TV. When my replacement unit arrives in a few weeks (see #26 of this thread) I will do the same tests again of course just to see if they improved on the crosstalk-matter for the new 2016-series but I definitely won't send it back this time in case it turns out that the 2016 series' crosstalk performance is the same as last year's!
I did this just to confirm that there is no difference at all (assuming that the LG glasses should also be circular polarized). I am a little bit surprised now that the new glasses indeed improve on the vertical sensitivity. Tilting my head up and down has significantly less impact on the crosstalk than when using the included LG glasses. I am not saying that overall ghosting is reduced but the new glasses seem to improve on the vertical sensitivity.