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Admins, just a quick suggest to make this type of thread more meaningful and easier to navigate. What about starting a new Q&A thread with each driver release so you can gain feedback on bug fixes that are specific to a version. As new drivers are release then the previous thread can be retired. Should keep the thread shorter and manageable.
Admins, just a quick suggest to make this type of thread more meaningful and easier to navigate. What about starting a new Q&A thread with each driver release so you can gain feedback on bug fixes that are specific to a version. As new drivers are release then the previous thread can be retired. Should keep the thread shorter and manageable.

#46
Posted 12/16/2009 02:53 AM   
Looks like the 3DVision drivers that fix the CRT and DLP detection issues have been posted as beta in the driver download area. Remember, these are just the 3DVision drivers and the 195.81 drivers will need to be installed first. Good Luck!


[url="http://www.nvidia.com/object/geforce_3D_vision_winvista_win7_195.81.html"]http://www.nvidia.com/object/geforce_3D_vi...in7_195.81.html[/url]
Looks like the 3DVision drivers that fix the CRT and DLP detection issues have been posted as beta in the driver download area. Remember, these are just the 3DVision drivers and the 195.81 drivers will need to be installed first. Good Luck!





http://www.nvidia.com/object/geforce_3D_vi...in7_195.81.html

#47
Posted 12/16/2009 12:11 PM   
I've asked for this before but will repeat it here for completeness - compatibility request for 3DVision, the benefit to users is tremendous but by opening up the mythical interoperativity box, Nvidia will ensure an avalanching effect surrounding its product, everybody will feel compelled to buy 3DVision, even and especially iZ3D, tridef and generic LCD shutter glasses owners.

Specifically, request for compatibility with the following softwares and hardwares:

A. Software: iZ3D driver, Tridef driver, and the incredibly useful Stereo Photo Maker tool by Masuji Suto.
B. Hardware: All generic LCD shutter glasses.
I've asked for this before but will repeat it here for completeness - compatibility request for 3DVision, the benefit to users is tremendous but by opening up the mythical interoperativity box, Nvidia will ensure an avalanching effect surrounding its product, everybody will feel compelled to buy 3DVision, even and especially iZ3D, tridef and generic LCD shutter glasses owners.



Specifically, request for compatibility with the following softwares and hardwares:



A. Software: iZ3D driver, Tridef driver, and the incredibly useful Stereo Photo Maker tool by Masuji Suto.

B. Hardware: All generic LCD shutter glasses.

Xeon X5675 hex cores @4.4 GHz, GTX 1070, win10 pro
i7 7700k 5GHz, RTX 2080, win10 pro
Benq 2720Z, w1070, Oculus Rift cv1, Samsung Odyssey+

#48
Posted 12/17/2009 06:49 PM   
Reporting on CD v1.19(195.81)

Generic CRT detection in setup now works. Running Sony GDM-FW900 on Vista 64 Ultimate.

For CRT, the detection issue seems resolved. I've read some users are still having issues detecting DLP but I can't confirm first hand.

As usual the method used for installing the new driver and removing all old driver components as follows:[quote]Device Manager(devmgmt.msc) > expand Display Adapters > right click on Display Adapter > Uninstall.
Control Panel > Programs and Settings(appwiz.cpl) > Uninstall Nvidia PhysX, Uninstall Nvidia Stereoscopic 3D Driver.
Unplug IR transmitter from USB cable.
Run [url="http://www.guru3d.com/category/driversweeper/"]Driversweeper[/url] > tick Nvidia Display, Nvidia PhysX > Analyze and Clean. Reboot.
F8 boot into Safe Mode, run Driversweeper again as before to delete locked/in-use files. Reboot.
Install new Driver set from CD directory using Launch.exe: first GPU driver is installed, reboots, then 3D Vision driver is installed, plug in IR transmitter when prompted by setup.[/quote]
In my testing on CRT, the last few drivers go like this:

195.81 BETA (CD v1.19) 2009.12.16 = Setup completes, working.
195.62 WHQL (CD v1.17) 2009.11.26 = 3D Ready display not found.
195.55 BETA (CD v1.16) 2009.11.18 = 3D Ready display not found.
195.39 BETA (CD v1.15) 2009.10.30 = Setup completes, working.


Thanks for fixing the detection issue. Please try not to break it again now that its working(like what happened between v1.15 and v1.16).

Its interesting to see two versions of the driver released at the same time(v1.18 for LCD, v1.19 for CRT/DLP/Generic).
Was there a problem using the same detection routine for all displays?(v1.15 was a single release and worked for all displays)

Remaining questions on this issue:
Will there be an alternate generic driver version released from now on? Is generic display support planned to be removed in the future?
Reporting on CD v1.19(195.81)



Generic CRT detection in setup now works. Running Sony GDM-FW900 on Vista 64 Ultimate.



For CRT, the detection issue seems resolved. I've read some users are still having issues detecting DLP but I can't confirm first hand.



As usual the method used for installing the new driver and removing all old driver components as follows:
Device Manager(devmgmt.msc) > expand Display Adapters > right click on Display Adapter > Uninstall.

Control Panel > Programs and Settings(appwiz.cpl) > Uninstall Nvidia PhysX, Uninstall Nvidia Stereoscopic 3D Driver.

Unplug IR transmitter from USB cable.

Run Driversweeper > tick Nvidia Display, Nvidia PhysX > Analyze and Clean. Reboot.

F8 boot into Safe Mode, run Driversweeper again as before to delete locked/in-use files. Reboot.

Install new Driver set from CD directory using Launch.exe: first GPU driver is installed, reboots, then 3D Vision driver is installed, plug in IR transmitter when prompted by setup.


In my testing on CRT, the last few drivers go like this:



195.81 BETA (CD v1.19) 2009.12.16 = Setup completes, working.

195.62 WHQL (CD v1.17) 2009.11.26 = 3D Ready display not found.

195.55 BETA (CD v1.16) 2009.11.18 = 3D Ready display not found.

195.39 BETA (CD v1.15) 2009.10.30 = Setup completes, working.





Thanks for fixing the detection issue. Please try not to break it again now that its working(like what happened between v1.15 and v1.16).



Its interesting to see two versions of the driver released at the same time(v1.18 for LCD, v1.19 for CRT/DLP/Generic).

Was there a problem using the same detection routine for all displays?(v1.15 was a single release and worked for all displays)



Remaining questions on this issue:

Will there be an alternate generic driver version released from now on? Is generic display support planned to be removed in the future?

#49
Posted 12/18/2009 08:05 AM   
just so everyone is aware sammy dlps are still not working with the new drivers

unfortunate.
just so everyone is aware sammy dlps are still not working with the new drivers



unfortunate.

intel i5 2500k @ 4.6 30C Stable

EVGA gtx 470 SLI

windows vista 64 bit

8 gig Corsair Vengeance RAM

#50
Posted 12/18/2009 04:43 PM   
I used your exact steps. No love for Sammy DLP at least. See my post here in the thread Andrew has been responding in.

[url="http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=151885&view=findpost&p=967072"]http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtop...st&p=967072[/url]

[quote name='muu5' post='966823' date='Dec 18 2009, 02:05 AM']For CRT, the detection issue seems resolved. I've read some users are still having issues detecting DLP but I can't confirm first hand.[/quote]

This is extremely frustrating that the issue is fixed for CRT and not Samsung DLP. At some point I'm afraid Nvidia will just throw their hands up in the air as the number of devices broken decreases.
I used your exact steps. No love for Sammy DLP at least. See my post here in the thread Andrew has been responding in.



http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtop...st&p=967072



[quote name='muu5' post='966823' date='Dec 18 2009, 02:05 AM']For CRT, the detection issue seems resolved. I've read some users are still having issues detecting DLP but I can't confirm first hand.



This is extremely frustrating that the issue is fixed for CRT and not Samsung DLP. At some point I'm afraid Nvidia will just throw their hands up in the air as the number of devices broken decreases.

#51
Posted 12/18/2009 06:28 PM   
Please add support for the Optoma line of 3D Ready projectors (Pro350W and HD66). Both appear to use the same chipset as the Acer unit.

Thanks,
Please add support for the Optoma line of 3D Ready projectors (Pro350W and HD66). Both appear to use the same chipset as the Acer unit.



Thanks,

#52
Posted 12/21/2009 09:56 PM   
Hi all,

Beta driver 1.19 has not fixed CRT detection for me. I'm using a BenQ MP720p 85 Hz projector and it was working fine as "Generic CRT" up to driver version 1.15. The Projector appears in windows as "VGA PC Monitor", which makes me think "Generic CRT" should work. However maybe 1.19 refuses to accept anything that can't do 120 Hz? In my experience 120 Hz would be nice to have, but 85 Hz really is not bad at all and it also means you can get smooth animation with a slightly slower GPU.

I tried cleaning the drivers the multiple reboots / driver cleaner way, but no luck. Installing just the 1.15 3d vision driver over the 1.19 graphics driver I get some limited success, the "monitor" is detected again, but the result is still anaglyph even if "generic crt" is selected.

Now just to let of a little bit of steam: NVidia please fix this! I spent way more hours trying getting this to work than playing games in stereo 3d just because things are a mess.

About ghosting: I got a vga sync box from nextstepsolutions which pulls the sync signal from the 15 pin vga connection/outputs via the vesa cord I had to solder myself :( and has a delay knob and with that it's possible to almost totally eliminate ghosting with the benq dlp projector. So a software delay adjustment really would solve lots of problems. I btw. got the Samsung 22'' and it ghosts more than I can accept in general.
Hi all,



Beta driver 1.19 has not fixed CRT detection for me. I'm using a BenQ MP720p 85 Hz projector and it was working fine as "Generic CRT" up to driver version 1.15. The Projector appears in windows as "VGA PC Monitor", which makes me think "Generic CRT" should work. However maybe 1.19 refuses to accept anything that can't do 120 Hz? In my experience 120 Hz would be nice to have, but 85 Hz really is not bad at all and it also means you can get smooth animation with a slightly slower GPU.



I tried cleaning the drivers the multiple reboots / driver cleaner way, but no luck. Installing just the 1.15 3d vision driver over the 1.19 graphics driver I get some limited success, the "monitor" is detected again, but the result is still anaglyph even if "generic crt" is selected.



Now just to let of a little bit of steam: NVidia please fix this! I spent way more hours trying getting this to work than playing games in stereo 3d just because things are a mess.



About ghosting: I got a vga sync box from nextstepsolutions which pulls the sync signal from the 15 pin vga connection/outputs via the vesa cord I had to solder myself :( and has a delay knob and with that it's possible to almost totally eliminate ghosting with the benq dlp projector. So a software delay adjustment really would solve lots of problems. I btw. got the Samsung 22'' and it ghosts more than I can accept in general.

#53
Posted 12/24/2009 04:04 PM   
[quote name='Pflugshaupt' post='970045' date='Dec 24 2009, 05:04 PM']Hi all,

Beta driver 1.19 has not fixed CRT detection for me. I'm using a BenQ MP720p 85 Hz projector and it was working fine as "Generic CRT" up to driver version 1.15.

I tried cleaning the drivers the multiple reboots / driver cleaner way, but no luck. Installing just the 1.15 3d vision driver over the 1.19 graphics driver I get some limited success, the "monitor" is detected again, but the result is still anaglyph even if "generic crt" is selected.

Now just to let of a little bit of steam: NVidia please fix this! I spent way more hours trying getting this to work than playing games in stereo 3d just because things are a mess.

About ghosting: I got a vga sync box from nextstepsolutions which pulls the sync signal from the 15 pin vga connection/outputs via the vesa cord I had to solder myself :( and has a delay knob and with that it's possible to almost totally eliminate ghosting with the benq dlp projector. So a software delay adjustment really would solve lots of problems. I btw. got the Samsung 22'' and it ghosts more than I can accept in general.[/quote]

Here is another proof that we need those damned sliders to set-up sync and shutter opening time for glasses.
add to this also
[url="http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=96360"]http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=96360[/url]


we can fix ghosting, give us those damned options!!!!
I'm waiting to buy a gtx295, if they fix i'll upgrade my gtx260 else i'll stay with it, as i have no real need to upgrade if i can't use glasses.
[quote name='Pflugshaupt' post='970045' date='Dec 24 2009, 05:04 PM']Hi all,



Beta driver 1.19 has not fixed CRT detection for me. I'm using a BenQ MP720p 85 Hz projector and it was working fine as "Generic CRT" up to driver version 1.15.



I tried cleaning the drivers the multiple reboots / driver cleaner way, but no luck. Installing just the 1.15 3d vision driver over the 1.19 graphics driver I get some limited success, the "monitor" is detected again, but the result is still anaglyph even if "generic crt" is selected.



Now just to let of a little bit of steam: NVidia please fix this! I spent way more hours trying getting this to work than playing games in stereo 3d just because things are a mess.



About ghosting: I got a vga sync box from nextstepsolutions which pulls the sync signal from the 15 pin vga connection/outputs via the vesa cord I had to solder myself :( and has a delay knob and with that it's possible to almost totally eliminate ghosting with the benq dlp projector. So a software delay adjustment really would solve lots of problems. I btw. got the Samsung 22'' and it ghosts more than I can accept in general.



Here is another proof that we need those damned sliders to set-up sync and shutter opening time for glasses.

add to this also

http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=96360





we can fix ghosting, give us those damned options!!!!

I'm waiting to buy a gtx295, if they fix i'll upgrade my gtx260 else i'll stay with it, as i have no real need to upgrade if i can't use glasses.

#54
Posted 12/24/2009 10:56 PM   
I just started to use my Viewsonic/3D Vision combo and I don't see any ghosting but I do have what looks to be a common problem here: Intermittent Flashing/Flickering in the glasses.

I get this in movies, pictures and games but its inconsistent. Very distracting.
I just started to use my Viewsonic/3D Vision combo and I don't see any ghosting but I do have what looks to be a common problem here: Intermittent Flashing/Flickering in the glasses.



I get this in movies, pictures and games but its inconsistent. Very distracting.

#55
Posted 12/26/2009 03:46 PM   
Admins, it's been a month since the last beta and this thread is starting to get stale. Any update on the next driver release?
Admins, it's been a month since the last beta and this thread is starting to get stale. Any update on the next driver release?

#56
Posted 01/17/2010 03:51 AM   
QUAD SLI drivers PLZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
QUAD SLI drivers PLZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#57
Posted 01/17/2010 05:28 AM   
Hey guys, check the first round of responses here: [url="http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=156751"]http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=156751[/url]


Amorphous
Hey guys, check the first round of responses here: http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=156751





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#58
Posted 01/19/2010 01:22 AM   
Let me reiterate the fact that [b]this[/b] thread is for asking questions. If you have feedback about the responses, use the response thread here: [url="http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=156751"]http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=156751[/url]


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Let me reiterate the fact that this thread is for asking questions. If you have feedback about the responses, use the response thread here: http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=156751





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#59
Posted 01/19/2010 03:20 AM   
Hi

I've got a Fujitsu Amilo Xi3650, 9600M GT HybridPower GPU
I can't find any driver compatible with 3Dvision, either on Nvidia nor Fujitsu site.

I've invested money in two 3D vision glasses, and a Acer H5360, 9600M GT is powerfull enough, but because of Hybridpower, I can't use all of this!!!

it's not right, don't you think?

When will the compatibility be assured?
Regards
Hi



I've got a Fujitsu Amilo Xi3650, 9600M GT HybridPower GPU

I can't find any driver compatible with 3Dvision, either on Nvidia nor Fujitsu site.



I've invested money in two 3D vision glasses, and a Acer H5360, 9600M GT is powerfull enough, but because of Hybridpower, I can't use all of this!!!



it's not right, don't you think?



When will the compatibility be assured?

Regards

#60
Posted 01/19/2010 05:00 PM   
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