Useful hints and tips and Questions ! Nvidia 3D vision guides and answers
Hi;

i received my 3D vision bundle with Samsung 120Hz monitor a week ago, and i experienced a lot of games and movies with this technology. i wish to give you some hints and tips to achieve good viewing pleasure with your glasses and i like to ask questions to nvidia that i couldn't figure out some concepts. Maybe this topic can be sticky.

First the setup of your glasses:

1) After installing the right drivers from nvidia you should see a setup screen. At this setup screen the most important part is hardware setup. You will be testing to see different shapes with your left and right eye. If your glasses flickers here click to the shapes that you see then click next, here in this part you will be asked if your glasses flickers, if you select yes you can change your refresh rate to be used by applications that will be rendered in 3D. Try 120, 110, 100Hz solutions to find best viewing that your glasses won't flicker. After you test refresh rates your glasses will flicker a moment, just wait 10-15 seconds then your glasses will focus and won't flicker if you select the right refresh rate. If nothing helped you to solve this issue select 100Hz(it is the best solution for me so far,the others flickered all the time) and then finish the setup. Flickering will be there for you for most of the games even you found the best solution at setup. This is because the resolution you are using for your game. I have exprienced flickering all the time when i use 1680x1050 resolution for games. you can use 1280x800 or the best resolution for me 1440x900. (This resolutions are for Samsung 120Hz Monitor) To configure 1440x900 resolution you have to enter custom resolution in nvidia control panel and select "Allow modes not exposed by the display".

2) We deal with the flickering problem, but what about ghosting or double image problems in games. In nvidia control panel enter "set up stereoscopic 3D" section. There you will see "set keyboard shortcuts" button. click it then you will see a setup screen window that you can alter the keys to edit 3D attributes real time in your application. click on and expand the "hide advanced in-game settings" and then check enable advanced in-game settings". Now you can adjust convergence and frustum settings real time while you are playing a game. To do this you must hold CTRL and then keep pushing F5 or F6 keys to solve double image or ghosting issues. then you must save your settings by pushing CTRL+F7 keys. If you uninstall your 3d drivers this settings will no longer recognized by the driver, you should do this settings for every game again. (I would ask this question to nvidia later).

3) For movies i am using Stereoscopic player not Nvidia's stereoscopic player which gives less options for movies. You can download and try this player at "http://www.3dtv.at/Index_en.aspx". This is the same application as Nvidia'a stereoscopic player except this player gives more advanced configurations. You must change "viewing method" to "Nvidia stereo driver" for your glasses to be work with 3D movies. Then in full screen mode you can adjust frustum and convergence by holding SHIFT+arrow keys to achieve best 3D picture.

These are my solutions for people experiencing such problems with this new technology, i hope this technology will develop further when new drivers come out.

Questions for NVIDIA, please respond to these questions so we can get some support, if also you have questions ask here.

1) There seems to be two different drivers for 3D where one of them is larger in size then the other. These drivers seems to be same but why is there size difference?
[url="http://www.nvidia.com/object/geforce_3D_vision_182.07.html"]http://www.nvidia.com/object/geforce_3D_vision_182.07.html[/url] size: 7.5 MB
[url="http://www.nvidia.com/object/stereo_3D_182.07.html"]http://www.nvidia.com/object/stereo_3D_182.07.html[/url] size: 9.0 MB

2) We can save our 3D settings with CTRL+F7 keys. But if we uninstall the driver we loose this settings. How can we restore this settings or backup them. Is there any file that writes these settings in it?
Hi;



i received my 3D vision bundle with Samsung 120Hz monitor a week ago, and i experienced a lot of games and movies with this technology. i wish to give you some hints and tips to achieve good viewing pleasure with your glasses and i like to ask questions to nvidia that i couldn't figure out some concepts. Maybe this topic can be sticky.



First the setup of your glasses:



1) After installing the right drivers from nvidia you should see a setup screen. At this setup screen the most important part is hardware setup. You will be testing to see different shapes with your left and right eye. If your glasses flickers here click to the shapes that you see then click next, here in this part you will be asked if your glasses flickers, if you select yes you can change your refresh rate to be used by applications that will be rendered in 3D. Try 120, 110, 100Hz solutions to find best viewing that your glasses won't flicker. After you test refresh rates your glasses will flicker a moment, just wait 10-15 seconds then your glasses will focus and won't flicker if you select the right refresh rate. If nothing helped you to solve this issue select 100Hz(it is the best solution for me so far,the others flickered all the time) and then finish the setup. Flickering will be there for you for most of the games even you found the best solution at setup. This is because the resolution you are using for your game. I have exprienced flickering all the time when i use 1680x1050 resolution for games. you can use 1280x800 or the best resolution for me 1440x900. (This resolutions are for Samsung 120Hz Monitor) To configure 1440x900 resolution you have to enter custom resolution in nvidia control panel and select "Allow modes not exposed by the display".



2) We deal with the flickering problem, but what about ghosting or double image problems in games. In nvidia control panel enter "set up stereoscopic 3D" section. There you will see "set keyboard shortcuts" button. click it then you will see a setup screen window that you can alter the keys to edit 3D attributes real time in your application. click on and expand the "hide advanced in-game settings" and then check enable advanced in-game settings". Now you can adjust convergence and frustum settings real time while you are playing a game. To do this you must hold CTRL and then keep pushing F5 or F6 keys to solve double image or ghosting issues. then you must save your settings by pushing CTRL+F7 keys. If you uninstall your 3d drivers this settings will no longer recognized by the driver, you should do this settings for every game again. (I would ask this question to nvidia later).



3) For movies i am using Stereoscopic player not Nvidia's stereoscopic player which gives less options for movies. You can download and try this player at "http://www.3dtv.at/Index_en.aspx". This is the same application as Nvidia'a stereoscopic player except this player gives more advanced configurations. You must change "viewing method" to "Nvidia stereo driver" for your glasses to be work with 3D movies. Then in full screen mode you can adjust frustum and convergence by holding SHIFT+arrow keys to achieve best 3D picture.



These are my solutions for people experiencing such problems with this new technology, i hope this technology will develop further when new drivers come out.



Questions for NVIDIA, please respond to these questions so we can get some support, if also you have questions ask here.



1) There seems to be two different drivers for 3D where one of them is larger in size then the other. These drivers seems to be same but why is there size difference?

http://www.nvidia.com/object/geforce_3D_vision_182.07.html size: 7.5 MB

http://www.nvidia.com/object/stereo_3D_182.07.html size: 9.0 MB



2) We can save our 3D settings with CTRL+F7 keys. But if we uninstall the driver we loose this settings. How can we restore this settings or backup them. Is there any file that writes these settings in it?

#1
Posted 02/11/2009 12:36 PM   
[quote name='debug' post='504253' date='Feb 11 2009, 06:36 AM']Hi;

i received my 3D vision bundle with Samsung 120Hz monitor a week ago, and i experienced a lot of games and movies with this technology. i wish to give you some hints and tips to achieve good viewing pleasure with your glasses and i like to ask questions to nvidia that i couldn't figure out some concepts. Maybe this topic can be sticky.

First the setup of your glasses:

1) After installing the right drivers from nvidia you should see a setup screen. At this setup screen the most important part is hardware setup. You will be testing to see different shapes with your left and right eye. If your glasses flickers here click to the shapes that you see then click next, here in this part you will be asked if your glasses flickers, if you select yes you can change your refresh rate to be used by applications that will be rendered in 3D. Try 120, 110, 100Hz solutions to find best viewing that your glasses won't flicker. After you test refresh rates your glasses will flicker a moment, just wait 10-15 seconds then your glasses will focus and won't flicker if you select the right refresh rate. If nothing helped you to solve this issue select 100Hz(it is the best solution for me so far,the others flickered all the time) and then finish the setup. Flickering will be there for you for most of the games even you found the best solution at setup. This is because the resolution you are using for your game. I have exprienced flickering all the time when i use 1680x1050 resolution for games. you can use 1280x800 or the best resolution for me 1440x900. (This resolutions are for Samsung 120Hz Monitor) To configure 1440x900 resolution you have to enter custom resolution in nvidia control panel and select "Allow modes not exposed by the display".

2) We deal with the flickering problem, but what about ghosting or double image problems in games. In nvidia control panel enter "set up stereoscopic 3D" section. There you will see "set keyboard shortcuts" button. click it then you will see a setup screen window that you can alter the keys to edit 3D attributes real time in your application. click on and expand the "hide advanced in-game settings" and then check enable advanced in-game settings". Now you can adjust convergence and frustum settings real time while you are playing a game. To do this you must hold CTRL and then keep pushing F5 or F6 keys to solve double image or ghosting issues. then you must save your settings by pushing CTRL+F7 keys. If you uninstall your 3d drivers this settings will no longer recognized by the driver, you should do this settings for every game again. (I would ask this question to nvidia later).

3) For movies i am using Stereoscopic player not Nvidia's stereoscopic player which gives less options for movies. You can download and try this player at "http://www.3dtv.at/Index_en.aspx". This is the same application as Nvidia'a stereoscopic player except this player gives more advanced configurations. You must change "viewing method" to "Nvidia stereo driver" for your glasses to be work with 3D movies. Then in full screen mode you can adjust frustum and convergence by holding SHIFT+arrow keys to achieve best 3D picture.

These are my solutions for people experiencing such problems with this new technology, i hope this technology will develop further when new drivers come out.

Questions for NVIDIA, please respond to these questions so we can get some support, if also you have questions ask here.

1) There seems to be two different drivers for 3D where one of them is larger in size then the other. These drivers seems to be same but why is there size difference?
[url="http://www.nvidia.com/object/geforce_3D_vision_182.07.html"]http://www.nvidia.com/object/geforce_3D_vision_182.07.html[/url] size: 7.5 MB
[url="http://www.nvidia.com/object/stereo_3D_182.07.html"]http://www.nvidia.com/object/stereo_3D_182.07.html[/url] size: 9.0 MB

2) We can save our 3D settings with CTRL+F7 keys. But if we uninstall the driver we loose this settings. How can we restore this settings or backup them. Is there any file that writes these settings in it?[/quote]

Hi there,

Let me answer your questions.

1) The two different files are for different users. The 3D Vision drivers contains all of the necessary settings and Setup Wizard, while the other GeForce Stereoscopic 3D driver is for Zalman TriMon and Anaglyph users.

2) This is a new feature and defiitely something we need to implement. Let me see if there is a way to save the settings between driver installs.
[quote name='debug' post='504253' date='Feb 11 2009, 06:36 AM']Hi;



i received my 3D vision bundle with Samsung 120Hz monitor a week ago, and i experienced a lot of games and movies with this technology. i wish to give you some hints and tips to achieve good viewing pleasure with your glasses and i like to ask questions to nvidia that i couldn't figure out some concepts. Maybe this topic can be sticky.



First the setup of your glasses:



1) After installing the right drivers from nvidia you should see a setup screen. At this setup screen the most important part is hardware setup. You will be testing to see different shapes with your left and right eye. If your glasses flickers here click to the shapes that you see then click next, here in this part you will be asked if your glasses flickers, if you select yes you can change your refresh rate to be used by applications that will be rendered in 3D. Try 120, 110, 100Hz solutions to find best viewing that your glasses won't flicker. After you test refresh rates your glasses will flicker a moment, just wait 10-15 seconds then your glasses will focus and won't flicker if you select the right refresh rate. If nothing helped you to solve this issue select 100Hz(it is the best solution for me so far,the others flickered all the time) and then finish the setup. Flickering will be there for you for most of the games even you found the best solution at setup. This is because the resolution you are using for your game. I have exprienced flickering all the time when i use 1680x1050 resolution for games. you can use 1280x800 or the best resolution for me 1440x900. (This resolutions are for Samsung 120Hz Monitor) To configure 1440x900 resolution you have to enter custom resolution in nvidia control panel and select "Allow modes not exposed by the display".



2) We deal with the flickering problem, but what about ghosting or double image problems in games. In nvidia control panel enter "set up stereoscopic 3D" section. There you will see "set keyboard shortcuts" button. click it then you will see a setup screen window that you can alter the keys to edit 3D attributes real time in your application. click on and expand the "hide advanced in-game settings" and then check enable advanced in-game settings". Now you can adjust convergence and frustum settings real time while you are playing a game. To do this you must hold CTRL and then keep pushing F5 or F6 keys to solve double image or ghosting issues. then you must save your settings by pushing CTRL+F7 keys. If you uninstall your 3d drivers this settings will no longer recognized by the driver, you should do this settings for every game again. (I would ask this question to nvidia later).



3) For movies i am using Stereoscopic player not Nvidia's stereoscopic player which gives less options for movies. You can download and try this player at "http://www.3dtv.at/Index_en.aspx". This is the same application as Nvidia'a stereoscopic player except this player gives more advanced configurations. You must change "viewing method" to "Nvidia stereo driver" for your glasses to be work with 3D movies. Then in full screen mode you can adjust frustum and convergence by holding SHIFT+arrow keys to achieve best 3D picture.



These are my solutions for people experiencing such problems with this new technology, i hope this technology will develop further when new drivers come out.



Questions for NVIDIA, please respond to these questions so we can get some support, if also you have questions ask here.



1) There seems to be two different drivers for 3D where one of them is larger in size then the other. These drivers seems to be same but why is there size difference?

http://www.nvidia.com/object/geforce_3D_vision_182.07.html size: 7.5 MB

http://www.nvidia.com/object/stereo_3D_182.07.html size: 9.0 MB



2) We can save our 3D settings with CTRL+F7 keys. But if we uninstall the driver we loose this settings. How can we restore this settings or backup them. Is there any file that writes these settings in it?



Hi there,



Let me answer your questions.



1) The two different files are for different users. The 3D Vision drivers contains all of the necessary settings and Setup Wizard, while the other GeForce Stereoscopic 3D driver is for Zalman TriMon and Anaglyph users.



2) This is a new feature and defiitely something we need to implement. Let me see if there is a way to save the settings between driver installs.

#2
Posted 02/11/2009 03:44 PM   
[quote name='andrewf@nvidia' post='504324' date='Feb 11 2009, 03:44 PM']Hi there,

Let me answer your questions.

1) The two different files are for different users. The 3D Vision drivers contains all of the necessary settings and Setup Wizard, while the other GeForce Stereoscopic 3D driver is for Zalman TriMon and Anaglyph users.

2) This is a new feature and defiitely something we need to implement. Let me see if there is a way to save the settings between driver installs.[/quote]

Thank you for this real quick answer and support. I am looking forward to the solution for configuration saving.
[quote name='andrewf@nvidia' post='504324' date='Feb 11 2009, 03:44 PM']Hi there,



Let me answer your questions.



1) The two different files are for different users. The 3D Vision drivers contains all of the necessary settings and Setup Wizard, while the other GeForce Stereoscopic 3D driver is for Zalman TriMon and Anaglyph users.



2) This is a new feature and defiitely something we need to implement. Let me see if there is a way to save the settings between driver installs.



Thank you for this real quick answer and support. I am looking forward to the solution for configuration saving.

#3
Posted 02/11/2009 04:46 PM   
I have a question to add. If you have just the glasses kit are you SoL? With the economy and all I can't purchase the bundle, but can do one then the other.
I have a question to add. If you have just the glasses kit are you SoL? With the economy and all I can't purchase the bundle, but can do one then the other.

#4
Posted 02/11/2009 08:06 PM   
[quote name='Nothing Shocking' post='504412' date='Feb 11 2009, 02:06 PM']I have a question to add. If you have just the glasses kit are you SoL? With the economy and all I can't purchase the bundle, but can do one then the other.[/quote]

Hi

There are a few options for you:
1) If you are withing 30 days, you can return your glasses kit for no reason for a full refund, and then buy the bundle when you are ready.
2) LCD manufacturers will offer monitors as a standalone eventually, just not right now.
[quote name='Nothing Shocking' post='504412' date='Feb 11 2009, 02:06 PM']I have a question to add. If you have just the glasses kit are you SoL? With the economy and all I can't purchase the bundle, but can do one then the other.



Hi



There are a few options for you:

1) If you are withing 30 days, you can return your glasses kit for no reason for a full refund, and then buy the bundle when you are ready.

2) LCD manufacturers will offer monitors as a standalone eventually, just not right now.

#5
Posted 02/11/2009 08:10 PM   
[quote name='andrewf@nvidia' post='504419' date='Feb 11 2009, 03:10 PM']Hi

There are a few options for you:
1) If you are withing 30 days, you can return your glasses kit for no reason for a full refund, and then buy the bundle when you are ready.
2) LCD manufacturers will offer monitors as a standalone eventually, just not right now.[/quote]
Thank ya very much, that's a reasonable solution.
[quote name='andrewf@nvidia' post='504419' date='Feb 11 2009, 03:10 PM']Hi



There are a few options for you:

1) If you are withing 30 days, you can return your glasses kit for no reason for a full refund, and then buy the bundle when you are ready.

2) LCD manufacturers will offer monitors as a standalone eventually, just not right now.

Thank ya very much, that's a reasonable solution.

#6
Posted 02/11/2009 08:13 PM   
[quote]2) We can save our 3D settings with CTRL+F7 keys. But if we uninstall the driver we loose this settings. How can we restore this settings or backup them. Is there any file that writes these settings in it?[/quote]

I found that the driver save's these file sin Vista to your Documents folder I think...

I forgot the path but each time you save the setting its stored in the configuration file.

Just back them up then reinstall.... then drop them back in
2) We can save our 3D settings with CTRL+F7 keys. But if we uninstall the driver we loose this settings. How can we restore this settings or backup them. Is there any file that writes these settings in it?




I found that the driver save's these file sin Vista to your Documents folder I think...



I forgot the path but each time you save the setting its stored in the configuration file.



Just back them up then reinstall.... then drop them back in

#7
Posted 02/11/2009 08:49 PM   
[quote name='pappmasta' post='504434' date='Feb 11 2009, 08:49 PM']I found that the driver save's these file sin Vista to your Documents folder I think...

I forgot the path but each time you save the setting its stored in the configuration file.

Just back them up then reinstall.... then drop them back in[/quote]

yes thank you, the file is in user/documents , with the directory named "NVStereoscopic3D.LOG" and in it you can see all the setup files with the name of the game.
[quote name='pappmasta' post='504434' date='Feb 11 2009, 08:49 PM']I found that the driver save's these file sin Vista to your Documents folder I think...



I forgot the path but each time you save the setting its stored in the configuration file.



Just back them up then reinstall.... then drop them back in



yes thank you, the file is in user/documents , with the directory named "NVStereoscopic3D.LOG" and in it you can see all the setup files with the name of the game.

#8
Posted 02/11/2009 08:56 PM   
[quote name='debug' post='504438' date='Feb 11 2009, 12:56 PM']yes thank you, the file is in user/documents , with the directory named "NVStereoscopic3D.LOG" and in it you can see all the setup files with the name of the game.[/quote]


Yup Yup

Now if we can only find those screen shots lol =)
[quote name='debug' post='504438' date='Feb 11 2009, 12:56 PM']yes thank you, the file is in user/documents , with the directory named "NVStereoscopic3D.LOG" and in it you can see all the setup files with the name of the game.





Yup Yup



Now if we can only find those screen shots lol =)

#9
Posted 02/11/2009 09:10 PM   
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