Nvidia 3DTV Play - Feasability of Mirroring and Wireless HDMI
I've been thinking a while about getting into the whole 3D Gaming thing, but I haven't had a compatible monitor for that. However, I have been playing a lot on my (relatively) new HDTV set by mirroring my monitor image to my TV and using a controller, and it just dawned on me that my TV is 3D-capable and that there is such a thing as "Nvidia 3DTV Play".
However, since my setup is a bit out of the ordinary I'd like to ask someone more knowledgable about wether or not it is acutally feasable to get it to work before I start buying glasses and software.
Here is the setup that I currently have:
My computer is running Windows 7 on an Asus Geforce GTX-660 card which is currently outputting video to three devices. The first two devices are two monitors on DVI, using extended desktop.
The third device is my television set, a Sony KDL-46HX855, connected using HDMI and mirroring the main monitor. However, what is tricky here is that I am using a wireless HDMI transmitter and reciever in order to get the signal to the actual television set.
The potential problems I can see here is the wireless transmission and the fact that I am mirroring the output to two separate displays, but I don't really know. If anyone can tell me what is possible and what isn't here, it'd be greatly appreciated.
I've been thinking a while about getting into the whole 3D Gaming thing, but I haven't had a compatible monitor for that. However, I have been playing a lot on my (relatively) new HDTV set by mirroring my monitor image to my TV and using a controller, and it just dawned on me that my TV is 3D-capable and that there is such a thing as "Nvidia 3DTV Play".
However, since my setup is a bit out of the ordinary I'd like to ask someone more knowledgable about wether or not it is acutally feasable to get it to work before I start buying glasses and software.
Here is the setup that I currently have:
My computer is running Windows 7 on an Asus Geforce GTX-660 card which is currently outputting video to three devices. The first two devices are two monitors on DVI, using extended desktop.
The third device is my television set, a Sony KDL-46HX855, connected using HDMI and mirroring the main monitor. However, what is tricky here is that I am using a wireless HDMI transmitter and reciever in order to get the signal to the actual television set.
The potential problems I can see here is the wireless transmission and the fact that I am mirroring the output to two separate displays, but I don't really know. If anyone can tell me what is possible and what isn't here, it'd be greatly appreciated.
In case you didn't know there is a free trial of 3DTV Play.
I went to check if the TV is supported and just got this ...
[quote]NVIDIA 3DTV Play supports most HDMI 3D TVs, receivers, projectors, and head mounted displays (HMDs) using Release 313 drivers or later.
If your 3D TV, receiver, projector, or head mounted display is not working with 3DTV Play, please read this Knowledge Base article for more information on contacting NVIDIA for support (reference to KB article #2774 [url]http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/2774/[/url])[/quote] ... which sends me right back to the page I was on ... so I'm not sure. I really thought they had a list up at one point.
I'm not sure about the wireless part, if the transmitter is just passing the signal through and the PC isn't picking up an addition EDID from it your chances are better on the software side of things. What does it show up as in your display properties?
In case you didn't know there is a free trial of 3DTV Play.
I went to check if the TV is supported and just got this ...
NVIDIA 3DTV Play supports most HDMI 3D TVs, receivers, projectors, and head mounted displays (HMDs) using Release 313 drivers or later.
If your 3D TV, receiver, projector, or head mounted display is not working with 3DTV Play, please read this Knowledge Base article for more information on contacting NVIDIA for support (reference to KB article #2774 http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/2774/)
... which sends me right back to the page I was on ... so I'm not sure. I really thought they had a list up at one point.
I'm not sure about the wireless part, if the transmitter is just passing the signal through and the PC isn't picking up an addition EDID from it your chances are better on the software side of things. What does it show up as in your display properties?
Yah the 3DTV compatibility list disappeared just recently. Download the trial, if it doesn't work wirelessly, hardwire it to comfirm if it works or not. If it doesn't work either way then you need to submit a support ticket via http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/2774 As long as you have Nvidia update utility installed, it's possible that once they get it straightened out, a micopatch will get it working for you. At least they used to add TV support inbetween drivers. Also make sure your TV is set as your main display when stereoscopic gaming.
Yah the 3DTV compatibility list disappeared just recently. Download the trial, if it doesn't work wirelessly, hardwire it to comfirm if it works or not. If it doesn't work either way then you need to submit a support ticket via http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/2774 As long as you have Nvidia update utility installed, it's possible that once they get it straightened out, a micopatch will get it working for you. At least they used to add TV support inbetween drivers. Also make sure your TV is set as your main display when stereoscopic gaming.
Seems to me like it ought to work. When running 3D TV Play, you usually do something like side-by-side for the stereoscopic, and thus the wireless part should not matter.
As long as you can get the side-by-side image on your TV, the TV should not care, and just go ahead and allow you to make it 3D.
If the wireless is not a pass through, and does something funny like compression or frame dropping, it won't be a good experience. You should probably try a hard wired experience first, to know what it should look like and prove out the system. 3D requires a good frame rate, so if the wireless imposed a 30fps cap or something funny like that, you'd have a bad experience.
As noted above, try out the trial, to see if the software side works.
Seems to me like it ought to work. When running 3D TV Play, you usually do something like side-by-side for the stereoscopic, and thus the wireless part should not matter.
As long as you can get the side-by-side image on your TV, the TV should not care, and just go ahead and allow you to make it 3D.
If the wireless is not a pass through, and does something funny like compression or frame dropping, it won't be a good experience. You should probably try a hard wired experience first, to know what it should look like and prove out the system. 3D requires a good frame rate, so if the wireless imposed a 30fps cap or something funny like that, you'd have a bad experience.
As noted above, try out the trial, to see if the software side works.
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Interesting, I wasn't aware that there was a trial version available. I'll certainly try that out. But what is that about 3DTV Play needing the Wireless IR Emitter to activate (note on step 3 of http://www.nvidia.com/object/3dtv-play-overview.html)?
To my knowledge, my wireless HDMI doesen't do anything to the actual signal, merely transmitting it. I haven't noticed any degradation of the image and the framerate doesen't appear capped at all. From what I can remember, the TV shows up as a device in the desktop setup, just as it would with a wired HDMI cable, but I can't verify this right this minute.
The only problem I have noticed when using mirroring is that some applications have trouble with what I assume are different refresh rates between the main monitor and the TV. I suppose it would be possible to reverse the mirroring though, making the TV the main display.
Interesting, I wasn't aware that there was a trial version available. I'll certainly try that out. But what is that about 3DTV Play needing the Wireless IR Emitter to activate (note on step 3 of http://www.nvidia.com/object/3dtv-play-overview.html)?
To my knowledge, my wireless HDMI doesen't do anything to the actual signal, merely transmitting it. I haven't noticed any degradation of the image and the framerate doesen't appear capped at all. From what I can remember, the TV shows up as a device in the desktop setup, just as it would with a wired HDMI cable, but I can't verify this right this minute.
The only problem I have noticed when using mirroring is that some applications have trouble with what I assume are different refresh rates between the main monitor and the TV. I suppose it would be possible to reverse the mirroring though, making the TV the main display.
3. Activate 3DTV Play on your 3D Vision PC:
NVIDIA 3DTV Play software is available as a free upgrade for 3D Vision PCs. Download the latest
Release 265 GeForce Drivers or higher for desktop GPUs and Release 265 or higher Verde Notebooks
drivers for notebook GPUs. (NOTE: the 3D Vision IR emitter is required to activate 3DTV Play software on your PC.)
It means that 3DTV Play is free if you have the Bvidia emitter connected otherwise it costs $40
3. Activate 3DTV Play on your 3D Vision PC:
NVIDIA 3DTV Play software is available as a free upgrade for 3D Vision PCs. Download the latest
Release 265 GeForce Drivers or higher for desktop GPUs and Release 265 or higher Verde Notebooks
drivers for notebook GPUs. (NOTE: the 3D Vision IR emitter is required to activate 3DTV Play software on your PC.)
It means that 3DTV Play is free if you have the Bvidia emitter connected otherwise it costs $40
However, since my setup is a bit out of the ordinary I'd like to ask someone more knowledgable about wether or not it is acutally feasable to get it to work before I start buying glasses and software.
Here is the setup that I currently have:
My computer is running Windows 7 on an Asus Geforce GTX-660 card which is currently outputting video to three devices. The first two devices are two monitors on DVI, using extended desktop.
The third device is my television set, a Sony KDL-46HX855, connected using HDMI and mirroring the main monitor. However, what is tricky here is that I am using a wireless HDMI transmitter and reciever in order to get the signal to the actual television set.
The potential problems I can see here is the wireless transmission and the fact that I am mirroring the output to two separate displays, but I don't really know. If anyone can tell me what is possible and what isn't here, it'd be greatly appreciated.
I went to check if the TV is supported and just got this ...
... which sends me right back to the page I was on ... so I'm not sure. I really thought they had a list up at one point.
I'm not sure about the wireless part, if the transmitter is just passing the signal through and the PC isn't picking up an addition EDID from it your chances are better on the software side of things. What does it show up as in your display properties?
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As long as you can get the side-by-side image on your TV, the TV should not care, and just go ahead and allow you to make it 3D.
If the wireless is not a pass through, and does something funny like compression or frame dropping, it won't be a good experience. You should probably try a hard wired experience first, to know what it should look like and prove out the system. 3D requires a good frame rate, so if the wireless imposed a 30fps cap or something funny like that, you'd have a bad experience.
As noted above, try out the trial, to see if the software side works.
Acer H5360 (1280x720@120Hz) - ASUS VG248QE with GSync mod - 3D Vision 1&2 - Driver 372.54
GTX 970 - i5-4670K@4.2GHz - 12GB RAM - Win7x64+evilKB2670838 - 4 Disk X25 RAID
SAGER NP9870-S - GTX 980 - i7-6700K - Win10 Pro 1607
Latest 3Dmigoto Release
Bo3b's School for ShaderHackers
To my knowledge, my wireless HDMI doesen't do anything to the actual signal, merely transmitting it. I haven't noticed any degradation of the image and the framerate doesen't appear capped at all. From what I can remember, the TV shows up as a device in the desktop setup, just as it would with a wired HDMI cable, but I can't verify this right this minute.
The only problem I have noticed when using mirroring is that some applications have trouble with what I assume are different refresh rates between the main monitor and the TV. I suppose it would be possible to reverse the mirroring though, making the TV the main display.
NVIDIA 3DTV Play software is available as a free upgrade for 3D Vision PCs. Download the latest
Release 265 GeForce Drivers or higher for desktop GPUs and Release 265 or higher Verde Notebooks
drivers for notebook GPUs. (NOTE: the 3D Vision IR emitter is required to activate 3DTV Play software on your PC.)
It means that 3DTV Play is free if you have the Bvidia emitter connected otherwise it costs $40