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Looks quite ok, had to dissable shadow and special effects. I hope somone can make a fix for it.
Looks quite ok, had to dissable shadow and special effects. I hope somone can make a fix for it.

Be nice or i'll add a poll asking stupid retarded questions!

#1
Posted 01/24/2013 04:46 PM   
I really hate having to disable shadows, lighting is one of my favorite things in current games. I can do without some effects but having a properly lit and shadowed world is very important to me, right up there with 3D. :)
I really hate having to disable shadows, lighting is one of my favorite things in current games. I can do without some effects but having a properly lit and shadowed world is very important to me, right up there with 3D. :)
#2
Posted 01/25/2013 07:54 PM   
Have been playing this in 3d surround, I haven't seen any setting that need to be disabled. The text over items is a pain tho. Get game, really have with this one. Up there with Trine.
Have been playing this in 3d surround, I haven't seen any setting that need to be disabled. The text over items is a pain tho. Get game, really have with this one. Up there with Trine.

#3
Posted 01/27/2013 10:24 AM   
This weekend i get this game, without any expectations, only thing i knew it's created by Ron Gilbert (good sign). The game its great, with a lot of fun (storyteller add a share of humor, nice) and looks almost perfect in 3D: I see shadows are 2D, HUD elements (subtitles and where you select characters) are at screen position (anoying), and like emett says, text over items are off. i will upload a fix today night (except shadows): - Subtitles and where you select characters pop-up of the screen, so you can see it in front of the scene (more confortable) - Text over items a little deeper and remove some white flame (very anoying, at least for me)... if i have time i will add a preset for enable/disable this texts...in some parts are really helpful. - Disable Shadows (only in characters), they dont add to much.....Lights and others are intact.
This weekend i get this game, without any expectations, only thing i knew it's created by Ron Gilbert (good sign). The game its great, with a lot of fun (storyteller add a share of humor, nice) and looks almost perfect in 3D:

I see shadows are 2D, HUD elements (subtitles and where you select characters) are at screen position (anoying), and like emett says, text over items are off. i will upload a fix today night (except shadows):

- Subtitles and where you select characters pop-up of the screen, so you can see it in front of the scene (more confortable)
- Text over items a little deeper and remove some white flame (very anoying, at least for me)... if i have time i will add a preset for enable/disable this texts...in some parts are really helpful.
- Disable Shadows (only in characters), they dont add to much.....Lights and others are intact.

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#4
Posted 04/15/2013 12:22 PM   
Would it be useful to know it uses the same engine as Brutal Legend, which has already been fixed?
Would it be useful to know it uses the same engine as Brutal Legend, which has already been fixed?

#5
Posted 04/15/2013 02:00 PM   
Sadly, we CANT use Brutal Legend fix in this game (even if share the same engine). Every game create a unique CRC number for shaders... so chances that 2 different games share the same issue and share the same CRC # for the shader with issue its almost 0 (for not saying zero)...and if its happens you have to purchase a lottery ticket at once, probably the winner ticket. But, it's possible to use the same code (or similar) for one issue and use in the right CRC # shader for a game, of course you have to know where to put that code. I already improve HUD and letters in The Cave (not shadows, because you have to know programming, wich i dont....but still i will give it a try). For example in this case, Letters shaders are in 1.1 version (shader version), so i have first to convert to 3.0 in order to fix them. Probably i will upload this fix with the fix of PID....like a [b]2 x 1 combo puzzles-plataform pack[/b] :) First i want to pop-up HUD in PID with the new debuger....the oldest ones dont work properly.
Sadly, we CANT use Brutal Legend fix in this game (even if share the same engine). Every game create a unique CRC number for shaders... so chances that 2 different games share the same issue and share the same CRC # for the shader with issue its almost 0 (for not saying zero)...and if its happens you have to purchase a lottery ticket at once, probably the winner ticket.

But, it's possible to use the same code (or similar) for one issue and use in the right CRC # shader for a game, of course you have to know where to put that code.

I already improve HUD and letters in The Cave (not shadows, because you have to know programming, wich i dont....but still i will give it a try). For example in this case, Letters shaders are in 1.1 version (shader version), so i have first to convert to 3.0 in order to fix them.


Probably i will upload this fix with the fix of PID....like a 2 x 1 combo puzzles-plataform pack :) First i want to pop-up HUD in PID with the new debuger....the oldest ones dont work properly.

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#6
Posted 04/15/2013 02:33 PM   
Ah well, thought it was worth mentioning :) Thanks for fixing it! I love how 2.5D games look in 3d, so this should be pretty good.
Ah well, thought it was worth mentioning :)

Thanks for fixing it! I love how 2.5D games look in 3d, so this should be pretty good.

#7
Posted 04/15/2013 04:00 PM   
np :) ...The Cave its a great game, i like this kind of games in 3D (platforms)...i think its my subconscious that still want to play Ghosts'n Goblins, Double Dragon, Cadillacs and Dinosaurs, Castlevania, Contra and many many others great old games. S3D add a lot to this games...if where 2D only, i dont even waste my time playing it, but 3D make them alive. PID its also a great game, more challeging that The Cave btw....
np :) ...The Cave its a great game, i like this kind of games in 3D (platforms)...i think its my subconscious that still want to play Ghosts'n Goblins, Double Dragon, Cadillacs and Dinosaurs, Castlevania, Contra and many many others great old games.

S3D add a lot to this games...if where 2D only, i dont even waste my time playing it, but 3D make them alive.

PID its also a great game, more challeging that The Cave btw....

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#8
Posted 04/15/2013 04:46 PM   
Hey i got The Cave to! Like you said looks great in 3D but with shadows turned off
Hey i got The Cave to! Like you said looks great in 3D but with shadows turned off

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#9
Posted 04/16/2013 08:31 AM   
Is there a 3dfix for the cave at all? I was unable to see anything on Helix site.
Is there a 3dfix for the cave at all? I was unable to see anything on Helix site.

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#10
Posted 04/16/2013 10:23 AM   
Sorry guys :( yesterday i got home very late and very tired, i go directly to bed. Today i will upload the improvement of the HUD and texts over items. I will see if i can do something with shadows, otherwise have to disable in options (tbh dont add to much to scene). @Arthane, that avatar photo looks familiar to me :) Cheers! EDIT1: Its on the blog: [url]http://helixmod.blogspot.com/2013/04/the-cave.html[/url]
Sorry guys :( yesterday i got home very late and very tired, i go directly to bed. Today i will upload the improvement of the HUD and texts over items. I will see if i can do something with shadows, otherwise have to disable in options (tbh dont add to much to scene).


@Arthane, that avatar photo looks familiar to me :)


Cheers!


EDIT1: Its on the blog: http://helixmod.blogspot.com/2013/04/the-cave.html

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#11
Posted 04/16/2013 11:06 AM   
Thanks DHR! @Arthane's avatar: Hey, that looks EXTREMELY familiar to me! Lol. :D
Thanks DHR!

@Arthane's avatar: Hey, that looks EXTREMELY familiar to me! Lol. :D
#12
Posted 04/18/2013 03:43 PM   
Thanks DHR I'll give it a try this weekend! I agree than this 2.5d games look so much better in 3d, Trine for example is so much better in 3d. BTW I've just seen your pics for PID and it looks beautiful, does it work from the get go or does it need a fix? Also, I can only dream we get to play the recently announced Mickey Mouse: Castle of Illusion remake in 3d. I loved that game on the genesis and it looks amazing in the recent pics, it's quite obvious it's in 3d so I pray we can make it work.
Thanks DHR I'll give it a try this weekend!

I agree than this 2.5d games look so much better in 3d, Trine for example is so much better in 3d.

BTW I've just seen your pics for PID and it looks beautiful, does it work from the get go or does it need a fix?

Also, I can only dream we get to play the recently announced Mickey Mouse: Castle of Illusion remake in 3d. I loved that game on the genesis and it looks amazing in the recent pics, it's quite obvious it's in 3d so I pray we can make it work.

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#13
Posted 04/18/2013 08:06 PM   
:) [quote="birthright"]BTW I've just seen your pics for PID and it looks beautiful, does it work from the get go or does it need a fix?[/quote] PID its a great game, more challenging than "The Cave" imo. 3D effect its great. I also made a improvement (upload yesterday): [url]http://helixmod.blogspot.com/2013/04/pid.html[/url] I also waiting for the remake of Castle of Illusion, great game. I spend a lot of hour in that game years years ago.
:)

birthright said:BTW I've just seen your pics for PID and it looks beautiful, does it work from the get go or does it need a fix?

PID its a great game, more challenging than "The Cave" imo. 3D effect its great. I also made a improvement (upload yesterday): http://helixmod.blogspot.com/2013/04/pid.html

I also waiting for the remake of Castle of Illusion, great game. I spend a lot of hour in that game years years ago.

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#14
Posted 04/18/2013 08:55 PM   
[quote="DHR"]:) [quote="birthright"]BTW I've just seen your pics for PID and it looks beautiful, does it work from the get go or does it need a fix?[/quote] PID its a great game, more challenging than "The Cave" imo. 3D effect its great. I also made a improvement (upload yesterday): [url]http://helixmod.blogspot.com/2013/04/pid.html[/url] I also waiting for the remake of Castle of Illusion, great game. I spend a lot of hour in that game years years ago.[/quote] Thanks for the fix! It all eventually worked out but I thought I should mention when I tried this a couple days ago I had what I think are the same problems as Long_johnson mentioned over on the blog, the effects were shifted too far left and right on things, like the lamppost at the very beginning of the game and when I got those aligned the HUD was so far out I couldn't even focus on it. I messed around with it a bit. deleted the HUD fix, etc, wound up deleting everything. Then yesterday I read a post by eqzitara about changing hud depth by changing 'def c220, [u]X[/u], 0, 0.0625, 0'. So when I got home last night, I redownloaded the fix and when I ran it everything was fine ... no clue why the HUD a bit too far out for my TV so I did lower it to -.3 and everything looks great! Thanks again for fixing it and for recommending the game to begin with. :D
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birthright said:BTW I've just seen your pics for PID and it looks beautiful, does it work from the get go or does it need a fix?

PID its a great game, more challenging than "The Cave" imo. 3D effect its great. I also made a improvement (upload yesterday): http://helixmod.blogspot.com/2013/04/pid.html

I also waiting for the remake of Castle of Illusion, great game. I spend a lot of hour in that game years years ago.


Thanks for the fix! It all eventually worked out but I thought I should mention when I tried this a couple days ago I had what I think are the same problems as Long_johnson mentioned over on the blog, the effects were shifted too far left and right on things, like the lamppost at the very beginning of the game and when I got those aligned the HUD was so far out I couldn't even focus on it. I messed around with it a bit. deleted the HUD fix, etc, wound up deleting everything. Then yesterday I read a post by eqzitara about changing hud depth by changing 'def c220, X, 0, 0.0625, 0'. So when I got home last night, I redownloaded the fix and when I ran it everything was fine ... no clue why the HUD a bit too far out for my TV so I did lower it to -.3 and everything looks great! Thanks again for fixing it and for recommending the game to begin with. :D
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Posted 04/23/2013 02:30 PM   
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