Andrew,
For DX9 games vis. DX10/11 games in general, on DLP displays, you have to reverse the stereo on the DLP TV for one or the other depending on what you chose in the 3D Vision setup. This was a bug that was introduced in the 280 series drivers for DLP TV's. I will reiterate, if DX9 has correct left/right configuration, then DX10/11 games will be reverse, or vice versa DX10/11 correct and DX9 reversed. I've only seen this issue on Mitsubishi DLP TV's so far.
For DX9 games vis. DX10/11 games in general, on DLP displays, you have to reverse the stereo on the DLP TV for one or the other depending on what you chose in the 3D Vision setup. This was a bug that was introduced in the 280 series drivers for DLP TV's. I will reiterate, if DX9 has correct left/right configuration, then DX10/11 games will be reverse, or vice versa DX10/11 correct and DX9 reversed. I've only seen this issue on Mitsubishi DLP TV's so far.
[quote name='photios' date='03 November 2011 - 10:55 AM' timestamp='1320335721' post='1319801']
Andrew,
For DX9 games vis. DX10/11 games in general, on DLP displays, you have to reverse the stereo on the DLP TV for one or the other depending on what you chose in the 3D Vision setup. This was a bug that was introduced in the 280 series drivers for DLP TV's. I will reiterate, if DX9 has correct left/right configuration, then DX10/11 games will be reverse, or vice versa DX10/11 correct and DX9 reversed. I've only seen this issue on Mitsubishi DLP TV's so far.
Thanks,
photios
[/quote]
Thanks another bug we will need to investigate.
Can you list out for me:
GPU
Driver version
Exact Mitsubishi TV
Games this has been showing on
[quote name='photios' date='03 November 2011 - 10:55 AM' timestamp='1320335721' post='1319801']
Andrew,
For DX9 games vis. DX10/11 games in general, on DLP displays, you have to reverse the stereo on the DLP TV for one or the other depending on what you chose in the 3D Vision setup. This was a bug that was introduced in the 280 series drivers for DLP TV's. I will reiterate, if DX9 has correct left/right configuration, then DX10/11 games will be reverse, or vice versa DX10/11 correct and DX9 reversed. I've only seen this issue on Mitsubishi DLP TV's so far.
[quote name='andrewf@nvidia' date='03 November 2011 - 10:59 AM' timestamp='1320332340' post='1319775']
For everyone with the eye swapping problem can you please provide me with some details:
- GPU model
- driver version: I see some of you are using 258.96 which is a really old driver. Did you try 285.62? That's been out now and is our latest driver
- Does it only affect DX9 and not DX10 mode of the game?
I am going to try it myself this morning.
[/quote]
-EVGA GTX570 (although it happened with my MSI GTX 260 as well)
-current 285.62 (although its happened with every driver for... i'd say well over the past year)
-Yup on DX10 only
-Mitsubishi WD-60737
Although, TBH, since my last posts I've started to just play on DX9 mode for a few reasons. First and foremost obviously is because of the eye swapping, second is because my performance in DX10 is awful unless i shut off AA completely... with it on, my frame rate jumps wildly between 60 and 30, and only those numbers, never one in between, and vsync isnt on and it didnt do this with my gtx260 and earlier drivers. And the main reason i dont mind the "solution" of just using DX9 mode is because that I havent been able to notice a visual difference between DX9/10 modes, and after a bit of searching i found a tomshardware article that says that there isnt even any graphical enhancements in DX10 mode.
[quote name='andrewf@nvidia' date='03 November 2011 - 10:59 AM' timestamp='1320332340' post='1319775']
For everyone with the eye swapping problem can you please provide me with some details:
- GPU model
- driver version: I see some of you are using 258.96 which is a really old driver. Did you try 285.62? That's been out now and is our latest driver
- Does it only affect DX9 and not DX10 mode of the game?
I am going to try it myself this morning.
-EVGA GTX570 (although it happened with my MSI GTX 260 as well)
-current 285.62 (although its happened with every driver for... i'd say well over the past year)
-Yup on DX10 only
-Mitsubishi WD-60737
Although, TBH, since my last posts I've started to just play on DX9 mode for a few reasons. First and foremost obviously is because of the eye swapping, second is because my performance in DX10 is awful unless i shut off AA completely... with it on, my frame rate jumps wildly between 60 and 30, and only those numbers, never one in between, and vsync isnt on and it didnt do this with my gtx260 and earlier drivers. And the main reason i dont mind the "solution" of just using DX9 mode is because that I havent been able to notice a visual difference between DX9/10 modes, and after a bit of searching i found a tomshardware article that says that there isnt even any graphical enhancements in DX10 mode.
GPU: GTX 590 x2 QUAD SLI
Driver: 285.62
TV: Mitsubishi WD-60C9
Any game that uses DX9 and then contrast with any DX10/11 game.
For sake of brevity try COD Black Ops (DX9) and Battlefield Bad Company 2 (DX11). I could name dozens of others, but it is consistent across the board for games that are 3D capable.
Any game that uses DX9 and then contrast with any DX10/11 game.
For sake of brevity try COD Black Ops (DX9) and Battlefield Bad Company 2 (DX11). I could name dozens of others, but it is consistent across the board for games that are 3D capable.
[quote name='photios' date='03 November 2011 - 01:11 PM' timestamp='1320343917' post='1319884']
GPU: GTX 590 x2 QUAD SLI
Driver: 285.62
TV: Mitsubishi WD-60C9
Any game that uses DX9 and then contrast with any DX10/11 game.
For sake of brevity try COD Black Ops (DX9) and Battlefield Bad Company 2 (DX11). I could name dozens of others, but it is consistent across the board for games that are 3D capable.
[/quote]
Are you saying that all DX10/11 have swapped eyes for you but DX9 do not?
[quote name='photios' date='03 November 2011 - 01:11 PM' timestamp='1320343917' post='1319884']
GPU: GTX 590 x2 QUAD SLI
Driver: 285.62
TV: Mitsubishi WD-60C9
Any game that uses DX9 and then contrast with any DX10/11 game.
For sake of brevity try COD Black Ops (DX9) and Battlefield Bad Company 2 (DX11). I could name dozens of others, but it is consistent across the board for games that are 3D capable.
Are you saying that all DX10/11 have swapped eyes for you but DX9 do not?
Andrew,
That is correct. All my DX10/11 games have to be reversed in the TV menu.
I have a buddy that has a similar setup with GTX 560 TI SLI's and a Mitsubishi WD-65C9 and he has to reverse all DX9 games instead, whereas Dx10/11 is normal stereo. This is because he chose opposite objects in the setup wizard.
That is correct. All my DX10/11 games have to be reversed in the TV menu.
I have a buddy that has a similar setup with GTX 560 TI SLI's and a Mitsubishi WD-65C9 and he has to reverse all DX9 games instead, whereas Dx10/11 is normal stereo. This is because he chose opposite objects in the setup wizard.
[quote name='photios' date='05 November 2011 - 11:41 PM' timestamp='1320529299' post='1320982']I have a buddy that has a similar setup with GTX 560 TI SLI's and a Mitsubishi WD-65C9 and he has to reverse all DX9 games instead, whereas Dx10/11 is normal stereo. This is because he chose opposite objects in the setup wizard.[/quote]That's a pretty good fix (not permanently of course) for the "reverse eye problem" that some people have to play games without having their glasses upside down.
[quote name='photios' date='05 November 2011 - 11:41 PM' timestamp='1320529299' post='1320982']I have a buddy that has a similar setup with GTX 560 TI SLI's and a Mitsubishi WD-65C9 and he has to reverse all DX9 games instead, whereas Dx10/11 is normal stereo. This is because he chose opposite objects in the setup wizard.That's a pretty good fix (not permanently of course) for the "reverse eye problem" that some people have to play games without having their glasses upside down.
Likay,
On DLP's one doesn't have to wear the glasses upside down. The TV options menu allows for reversing the left and right image. Better than wearing glasses upside down of course, but there is a bug in the driver that needs to be fixed for DLP owners.
photios
On DLP's one doesn't have to wear the glasses upside down. The TV options menu allows for reversing the left and right image. Better than wearing glasses upside down of course, but there is a bug in the driver that needs to be fixed for DLP owners.
[quote name='steiner666' date='06 November 2011 - 05:49 PM' timestamp='1320619778' post='1321460']
I just tried Crysis 2 in DX11 and it's backwards, but thankfully theres an in-game menu option to flip eyes.
I just ran the Heaven DX11 benchmark thing and it displays reversed as well.
Ally my DX9 games run correctly though.
[/quote]
Hi
We had an issue with the original Mitsubishi DLPs that the eyes were swapped and that they did require a firmware update to fix it.
I know users are reporting that this only affects DX10 and 11 games, but can everyone at least confirm that they have installed the latest firmware for their TVs?
[quote name='steiner666' date='06 November 2011 - 05:49 PM' timestamp='1320619778' post='1321460']
I just tried Crysis 2 in DX11 and it's backwards, but thankfully theres an in-game menu option to flip eyes.
I just ran the Heaven DX11 benchmark thing and it displays reversed as well.
Ally my DX9 games run correctly though.
Hi
We had an issue with the original Mitsubishi DLPs that the eyes were swapped and that they did require a firmware update to fix it.
I know users are reporting that this only affects DX10 and 11 games, but can everyone at least confirm that they have installed the latest firmware for their TVs?
I tried this myself and yes, DX10 version of the game does have swapped eyes.
I also see that depth cannot even be adjusted in DX10 mode.
I'll get an internal bug filed on this.
I tried this myself and yes, DX10 version of the game does have swapped eyes.
I also see that depth cannot even be adjusted in DX10 mode.
I'll get an internal bug filed on this.
For DX9 games vis. DX10/11 games in general, on DLP displays, you have to reverse the stereo on the DLP TV for one or the other depending on what you chose in the 3D Vision setup. This was a bug that was introduced in the 280 series drivers for DLP TV's. I will reiterate, if DX9 has correct left/right configuration, then DX10/11 games will be reverse, or vice versa DX10/11 correct and DX9 reversed. I've only seen this issue on Mitsubishi DLP TV's so far.
Thanks,
photios
For DX9 games vis. DX10/11 games in general, on DLP displays, you have to reverse the stereo on the DLP TV for one or the other depending on what you chose in the 3D Vision setup. This was a bug that was introduced in the 280 series drivers for DLP TV's. I will reiterate, if DX9 has correct left/right configuration, then DX10/11 games will be reverse, or vice versa DX10/11 correct and DX9 reversed. I've only seen this issue on Mitsubishi DLP TV's so far.
Thanks,
photios
Andrew,
For DX9 games vis. DX10/11 games in general, on DLP displays, you have to reverse the stereo on the DLP TV for one or the other depending on what you chose in the 3D Vision setup. This was a bug that was introduced in the 280 series drivers for DLP TV's. I will reiterate, if DX9 has correct left/right configuration, then DX10/11 games will be reverse, or vice versa DX10/11 correct and DX9 reversed. I've only seen this issue on Mitsubishi DLP TV's so far.
Thanks,
photios
[/quote]
Thanks another bug we will need to investigate.
Can you list out for me:
GPU
Driver version
Exact Mitsubishi TV
Games this has been showing on
Andrew,
For DX9 games vis. DX10/11 games in general, on DLP displays, you have to reverse the stereo on the DLP TV for one or the other depending on what you chose in the 3D Vision setup. This was a bug that was introduced in the 280 series drivers for DLP TV's. I will reiterate, if DX9 has correct left/right configuration, then DX10/11 games will be reverse, or vice versa DX10/11 correct and DX9 reversed. I've only seen this issue on Mitsubishi DLP TV's so far.
Thanks,
photios
Thanks another bug we will need to investigate.
Can you list out for me:
GPU
Driver version
Exact Mitsubishi TV
Games this has been showing on
For everyone with the eye swapping problem can you please provide me with some details:
- GPU model
- driver version: I see some of you are using 258.96 which is a really old driver. Did you try 285.62? That's been out now and is our latest driver
- Does it only affect DX9 and not DX10 mode of the game?
I am going to try it myself this morning.
[/quote]
-EVGA GTX570 (although it happened with my MSI GTX 260 as well)
-current 285.62 (although its happened with every driver for... i'd say well over the past year)
-Yup on DX10 only
-Mitsubishi WD-60737
Although, TBH, since my last posts I've started to just play on DX9 mode for a few reasons. First and foremost obviously is because of the eye swapping, second is because my performance in DX10 is awful unless i shut off AA completely... with it on, my frame rate jumps wildly between 60 and 30, and only those numbers, never one in between, and vsync isnt on and it didnt do this with my gtx260 and earlier drivers. And the main reason i dont mind the "solution" of just using DX9 mode is because that I havent been able to notice a visual difference between DX9/10 modes, and after a bit of searching i found a tomshardware article that says that there isnt even any graphical enhancements in DX10 mode.
For everyone with the eye swapping problem can you please provide me with some details:
- GPU model
- driver version: I see some of you are using 258.96 which is a really old driver. Did you try 285.62? That's been out now and is our latest driver
- Does it only affect DX9 and not DX10 mode of the game?
I am going to try it myself this morning.
-EVGA GTX570 (although it happened with my MSI GTX 260 as well)
-current 285.62 (although its happened with every driver for... i'd say well over the past year)
-Yup on DX10 only
-Mitsubishi WD-60737
Although, TBH, since my last posts I've started to just play on DX9 mode for a few reasons. First and foremost obviously is because of the eye swapping, second is because my performance in DX10 is awful unless i shut off AA completely... with it on, my frame rate jumps wildly between 60 and 30, and only those numbers, never one in between, and vsync isnt on and it didnt do this with my gtx260 and earlier drivers. And the main reason i dont mind the "solution" of just using DX9 mode is because that I havent been able to notice a visual difference between DX9/10 modes, and after a bit of searching i found a tomshardware article that says that there isnt even any graphical enhancements in DX10 mode.
Ubelsteiner Rig
Intel Q9550 @ 3.9Ghz
Asus P5E-VM HDMI
4x2GB DDR2-1000
Nvidia GTX 570 (900/1800/2000)
Creative X-Fi
In-Win BR-665
Mitsubishi 60" DLP
Driver: 285.62
TV: Mitsubishi WD-60C9
Any game that uses DX9 and then contrast with any DX10/11 game.
For sake of brevity try COD Black Ops (DX9) and Battlefield Bad Company 2 (DX11). I could name dozens of others, but it is consistent across the board for games that are 3D capable.
Driver: 285.62
TV: Mitsubishi WD-60C9
Any game that uses DX9 and then contrast with any DX10/11 game.
For sake of brevity try COD Black Ops (DX9) and Battlefield Bad Company 2 (DX11). I could name dozens of others, but it is consistent across the board for games that are 3D capable.
GPU: GTX 590 x2 QUAD SLI
Driver: 285.62
TV: Mitsubishi WD-60C9
Any game that uses DX9 and then contrast with any DX10/11 game.
For sake of brevity try COD Black Ops (DX9) and Battlefield Bad Company 2 (DX11). I could name dozens of others, but it is consistent across the board for games that are 3D capable.
[/quote]
Are you saying that all DX10/11 have swapped eyes for you but DX9 do not?
GPU: GTX 590 x2 QUAD SLI
Driver: 285.62
TV: Mitsubishi WD-60C9
Any game that uses DX9 and then contrast with any DX10/11 game.
For sake of brevity try COD Black Ops (DX9) and Battlefield Bad Company 2 (DX11). I could name dozens of others, but it is consistent across the board for games that are 3D capable.
Are you saying that all DX10/11 have swapped eyes for you but DX9 do not?
That is correct. All my DX10/11 games have to be reversed in the TV menu.
I have a buddy that has a similar setup with GTX 560 TI SLI's and a Mitsubishi WD-65C9 and he has to reverse all DX9 games instead, whereas Dx10/11 is normal stereo. This is because he chose opposite objects in the setup wizard.
That is correct. All my DX10/11 games have to be reversed in the TV menu.
I have a buddy that has a similar setup with GTX 560 TI SLI's and a Mitsubishi WD-65C9 and he has to reverse all DX9 games instead, whereas Dx10/11 is normal stereo. This is because he chose opposite objects in the setup wizard.
Mb: Asus P5W DH Deluxe
Cpu: C2D E6600
Gb: Nvidia 7900GT + 8800GTX
3D:100" passive projector polarized setup + 22" IZ3D
Stereodrivers: Iz3d & Tridef ignition and nvidia old school.
On DLP's one doesn't have to wear the glasses upside down. The TV options menu allows for reversing the left and right image. Better than wearing glasses upside down of course, but there is a bug in the driver that needs to be fixed for DLP owners.
photios
On DLP's one doesn't have to wear the glasses upside down. The TV options menu allows for reversing the left and right image. Better than wearing glasses upside down of course, but there is a bug in the driver that needs to be fixed for DLP owners.
photios
I just ran the Heaven DX11 benchmark thing and it displays reversed as well.
Ally my DX9 games run correctly though.
I just ran the Heaven DX11 benchmark thing and it displays reversed as well.
Ally my DX9 games run correctly though.
Ubelsteiner Rig
Intel Q9550 @ 3.9Ghz
Asus P5E-VM HDMI
4x2GB DDR2-1000
Nvidia GTX 570 (900/1800/2000)
Creative X-Fi
In-Win BR-665
Mitsubishi 60" DLP
I just tried Crysis 2 in DX11 and it's backwards, but thankfully theres an in-game menu option to flip eyes.
I just ran the Heaven DX11 benchmark thing and it displays reversed as well.
Ally my DX9 games run correctly though.
[/quote]
Hi
We had an issue with the original Mitsubishi DLPs that the eyes were swapped and that they did require a firmware update to fix it.
I know users are reporting that this only affects DX10 and 11 games, but can everyone at least confirm that they have installed the latest firmware for their TVs?
I just tried Crysis 2 in DX11 and it's backwards, but thankfully theres an in-game menu option to flip eyes.
I just ran the Heaven DX11 benchmark thing and it displays reversed as well.
Ally my DX9 games run correctly though.
Hi
We had an issue with the original Mitsubishi DLPs that the eyes were swapped and that they did require a firmware update to fix it.
I know users are reporting that this only affects DX10 and 11 games, but can everyone at least confirm that they have installed the latest firmware for their TVs?
I noticed that my TV has an updated firmware http://support.mitsubishi-tv.com/documents/WD-60C9
I will go home today and update the firmware and see if it fixes that issue and give you some feedback.
photios
I noticed that my TV has an updated firmware http://support.mitsubishi-tv.com/documents/WD-60C9
I will go home today and update the firmware and see if it fixes that issue and give you some feedback.
photios
Just an update. Firmware update did not change anything. Problem is identical as before. This bug started with the 280 Nvidia drivers.
photios
Just an update. Firmware update did not change anything. Problem is identical as before. This bug started with the 280 Nvidia drivers.
photios