3D Vision will work together with G-Sync Technology?
[b]Hi[/b], I salute you all from Romania! I'm attempting to make an upgrade for mine monitor BenQ XL2410T, to something with 1440p resolution, or even 4K with G-Sync technology. Will be G-Sync compatible with 3D Vision from Nvidia? Thank you!
Hi, I salute you all from Romania!

I'm attempting to make an upgrade for mine monitor BenQ XL2410T, to something with 1440p resolution, or even 4K with G-Sync technology.

Will be G-Sync compatible with 3D Vision from Nvidia?

Thank you!

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#1
Posted 07/08/2014 08:51 PM   
G-Sync and 3d vision will not work at the same time, I'm pretty sure.
G-Sync and 3d vision will not work at the same time, I'm pretty sure.

#2
Posted 07/08/2014 11:35 PM   
Yep, at present Nvidia have said that G-Sync and 3D Vision cannot be run at the same time. Both will work on a specific monitor like the ROG, but not at the same time. If they did both work at once, I'd buy the VG248QE today.
Yep, at present Nvidia have said that G-Sync and 3D Vision cannot be run at the same time. Both will work on a specific monitor like the ROG, but not at the same time.

If they did both work at once, I'd buy the VG248QE today.

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#3
Posted 07/09/2014 12:05 AM   
Thank you guys for answer. Maybe they will fix that, or G-Sync is only available on display port, wich cannot go upper 60Hz? So still be able to run Nvidia 3D, but ONLY on DVI port, and without G-Sync enabled? I'm intending to buy this monitor: http://www.anandtech.com/show/8085/asus-rog-swift-pg278q-launched-1440p-144hz-panel-with-gsync
Thank you guys for answer.

Maybe they will fix that, or G-Sync is only available on display port, wich cannot go upper 60Hz?

So still be able to run Nvidia 3D, but ONLY on DVI port, and without G-Sync enabled?

I'm intending to buy this monitor:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/8085/asus-rog-swift-pg278q-launched-1440p-144hz-panel-with-gsync

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#4
Posted 07/09/2014 07:12 AM   
The big problem is that 3D Vision works by rapidly toggling the screen between the left and right eye images, while the whole point of G-SYNC is to stop updating the screen when nothing is changing. They're pretty much fundamentally incompatible at a technological level.
The big problem is that 3D Vision works by rapidly toggling the screen between the left and right eye images, while the whole point of G-SYNC is to stop updating the screen when nothing is changing. They're pretty much fundamentally incompatible at a technological level.

Aaron Plattner
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#5
Posted 07/09/2014 07:40 AM   
[quote="aplattner"]The big problem is that 3D Vision works by rapidly toggling the screen between the left and right eye images, while the whole point of G-SYNC is to stop updating the screen when nothing is changing. They're pretty much fundamentally incompatible at a technological level.[/quote]I've heard this before, but I'm still not sure this is true. I've personally used 3D Vision glasses at 100Hz, when I ran CRTs a long while back. That means that the glasses frequency is not fundamentally fixed at 120Hz. The only real question then is whether the frequency can be dynamic or not. Again, I really don't see any reason why not. If the emitter gets a USB signal to swap eyes, is it a requirement that it be at some fixed frequency? My thought is that if the glasses just respond to the emitter, and the emitter just responds to the driver, then I don't see why we couldn't get G-Sync from say 100-144Hz, and still maintain a decent refresh on the glasses. The only reason I can see for limiting it is the fear of flicker, but not everyone is susceptible to shutter glass flicker, and I used Elsa Revelators at 60Hz (30 per eye) a long time ago, and had no problems. In my case, I can probably accept a 60Hz-144Hz G-Sync range with 3D Vision. I would love to see more flexibility here instead of assuming we know what is best for everyone. Please allow (maybe opt-in only) us to experiment with G-Sync and 3D Vision.
aplattner said:The big problem is that 3D Vision works by rapidly toggling the screen between the left and right eye images, while the whole point of G-SYNC is to stop updating the screen when nothing is changing. They're pretty much fundamentally incompatible at a technological level.
I've heard this before, but I'm still not sure this is true.

I've personally used 3D Vision glasses at 100Hz, when I ran CRTs a long while back. That means that the glasses frequency is not fundamentally fixed at 120Hz.

The only real question then is whether the frequency can be dynamic or not. Again, I really don't see any reason why not. If the emitter gets a USB signal to swap eyes, is it a requirement that it be at some fixed frequency?

My thought is that if the glasses just respond to the emitter, and the emitter just responds to the driver, then I don't see why we couldn't get G-Sync from say 100-144Hz, and still maintain a decent refresh on the glasses.

The only reason I can see for limiting it is the fear of flicker, but not everyone is susceptible to shutter glass flicker, and I used Elsa Revelators at 60Hz (30 per eye) a long time ago, and had no problems. In my case, I can probably accept a 60Hz-144Hz G-Sync range with 3D Vision.


I would love to see more flexibility here instead of assuming we know what is best for everyone. Please allow (maybe opt-in only) us to experiment with G-Sync and 3D Vision.

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#6
Posted 07/10/2014 11:04 PM   
Anyway that is another reason to decide to leave the glasses in the drawer. Too many reasons so far.
Anyway that is another reason to decide to leave the glasses in the drawer. Too many reasons so far.

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#7
Posted 07/11/2014 02:03 AM   
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