Prey 2 suddenly looks amazing
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[url="http://kotaku.com/5808128/well-prey-2-suddenly-looks-amazing"]"Well, Prey 2 suddenly looks amazing."[/url] <--article

...and i agree. But will it work in 3D?

Some nice [url="https://www.google.com/search?q=prey+2+concept+art&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&biw=1239&bih=997&sei=kN3UTsvVAuKqiQKOjN2GDg#um=1&hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US%3Aofficial&tbs=isz:l&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=prey+2+engine&oq=prey+2+engine&aq=f&aqi=g-S1&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=34008l34008l2l34279l1l1l0l1l1l0l0l0ll0l0&fp=1&biw=1239&bih=997&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&cad=b"]screenshots[/url].

My new wallpaper:


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"Well, Prey 2 suddenly looks amazing." <--article



...and i agree. But will it work in 3D?



Some nice screenshots.



My new wallpaper:





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#1
Posted 11/29/2011 02:14 PM   
Unfortunately, it's almost confirmed to not work, since it's using the doom 3 engine. OpenGl.
Unfortunately, it's almost confirmed to not work, since it's using the doom 3 engine. OpenGl.

#2
Posted 11/29/2011 05:59 PM   
Oh crap, i thought someone said they were using the "Dark Mod" with 3D. The Doom 3 source code was just released, i wonder if they can do anything with that.
Oh crap, i thought someone said they were using the "Dark Mod" with 3D. The Doom 3 source code was just released, i wonder if they can do anything with that.

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#3
Posted 11/29/2011 06:05 PM   
“So the engine we’re using is a heavily modified id Tech 4,” said Reinhert. “Part of the reason we’re using id Tech 4 is because after we finished Prey we started on some new tech ideas that we wanted to do and build into that and it was too early to go in and start picking id Tech 5 and building the game into it.”

Source:
http://www.xbox360achievements.org/news/news-8111-Prey-2-Using-the-id-Tech-4-Engine--Not-id-Tech-5.html
“So the engine we’re using is a heavily modified id Tech 4,” said Reinhert. “Part of the reason we’re using id Tech 4 is because after we finished Prey we started on some new tech ideas that we wanted to do and build into that and it was too early to go in and start picking id Tech 5 and building the game into it.”



Source:

http://www.xbox360achievements.org/news/news-8111-Prey-2-Using-the-id-Tech-4-Engine--Not-id-Tech-5.html
Yeah...unfortunate. And now with Rage being a huge flop and Doom 4 being postponed indefinitely, there's virtually no chance Nvidia will be forced to support OpenGL with this iteration of 3D Vision. It certainly appears iD Tech and OpenGL are "doomed" to obscurity in the consumer-space now......
Yeah...unfortunate. And now with Rage being a huge flop and Doom 4 being postponed indefinitely, there's virtually no chance Nvidia will be forced to support OpenGL with this iteration of 3D Vision. It certainly appears iD Tech and OpenGL are "doomed" to obscurity in the consumer-space now......

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#5
Posted 11/29/2011 06:54 PM   
With the Doom 3 source code out someone could write a DirectX renderer, but who will?
With the Doom 3 source code out someone could write a DirectX renderer, but who will?

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#6
Posted 11/29/2011 07:38 PM   
[quote name='Xerion404' date='29 November 2011 - 02:38 PM' timestamp='1322595487' post='1334840']
With the Doom 3 source code out someone could write a DirectX renderer, but who will?
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Best bet I think is still the guy behind GLDirect. Would probably be easier to add extensions to his wrapper than try to rewrite and recompile all OpenGL calls to DX for every game.

http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=193627&hl=gldirect&st=0
[quote name='Xerion404' date='29 November 2011 - 02:38 PM' timestamp='1322595487' post='1334840']

With the Doom 3 source code out someone could write a DirectX renderer, but who will?



Best bet I think is still the guy behind GLDirect. Would probably be easier to add extensions to his wrapper than try to rewrite and recompile all OpenGL calls to DX for every game.



http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=193627&hl=gldirect&st=0

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#7
Posted 11/29/2011 07:55 PM   
Well isn't the reason that Nvidia doesn't support OpenGl in 3D Gaming, because they are trying to keep that accessable only to their lucrative 3D Vision Pro users for 3D software.
Well isn't the reason that Nvidia doesn't support OpenGl in 3D Gaming, because they are trying to keep that accessable only to their lucrative 3D Vision Pro users for 3D software.

#8
Posted 11/29/2011 08:53 PM   
[quote name='Xerion404' date='29 November 2011 - 11:38 AM' timestamp='1322595487' post='1334840']
With the Doom 3 source code out someone could write a DirectX renderer, but who will?
[/quote]

Hmm, im spending $400 bucks on another Nvidia card soon, maybe Nvidia can do it. Nvidia, what do ya think? I've never even heard of Nvidia Pro until now and my wallet doesn't want to hear about it.
[quote name='Xerion404' date='29 November 2011 - 11:38 AM' timestamp='1322595487' post='1334840']

With the Doom 3 source code out someone could write a DirectX renderer, but who will?





Hmm, im spending $400 bucks on another Nvidia card soon, maybe Nvidia can do it. Nvidia, what do ya think? I've never even heard of Nvidia Pro until now and my wallet doesn't want to hear about it.

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#9
Posted 11/30/2011 06:34 PM   
[quote name='D-Man11' date='29 November 2011 - 03:53 PM' timestamp='1322600001' post='1334888']
Well isn't the reason that Nvidia doesn't support OpenGl in 3D Gaming, because they are trying to keep that accessable only to their lucrative 3D Vision Pro users for 3D software.
[/quote]
Yeah that's what I think but I doubt we'll ever hear a definitive response from Nvidia on it, certainly not from Andrew. While he's certainly not some low-level peon over there, the decision not to support OpenGL on 3D Vision is most probably being made a good bit above his head.

Also, I don't think its necessarily to protect 3D Vision Pro, its more to protect their lucrative Quadro/Tesla professional solutions. That's the key to unlocking OpenGL stereo, a $1000+ video card, not the glasses since you can also use normal 3D Vision glasses with Quadro cards for OpenGL stereo support.
[quote name='D-Man11' date='29 November 2011 - 03:53 PM' timestamp='1322600001' post='1334888']

Well isn't the reason that Nvidia doesn't support OpenGl in 3D Gaming, because they are trying to keep that accessable only to their lucrative 3D Vision Pro users for 3D software.



Yeah that's what I think but I doubt we'll ever hear a definitive response from Nvidia on it, certainly not from Andrew. While he's certainly not some low-level peon over there, the decision not to support OpenGL on 3D Vision is most probably being made a good bit above his head.



Also, I don't think its necessarily to protect 3D Vision Pro, its more to protect their lucrative Quadro/Tesla professional solutions. That's the key to unlocking OpenGL stereo, a $1000+ video card, not the glasses since you can also use normal 3D Vision glasses with Quadro cards for OpenGL stereo support.

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#10
Posted 11/30/2011 06:44 PM   
[quote name='Libertine' date='30 November 2011 - 01:34 PM' timestamp='1322678099' post='1335424']
Hmm, im spending $400 bucks on another Nvidia card soon, maybe Nvidia can do it. Nvidia, what do ya think? I've never even heard of Nvidia Pro until now and my wallet doesn't want to hear about it.
[/quote]
If OpenGL stereo support is the main factor in that decision to spend $400, I would wait for support first. I don't think you're going to get the solution you desire in this case, so just trying to save you some angst/rage in the future.
[quote name='Libertine' date='30 November 2011 - 01:34 PM' timestamp='1322678099' post='1335424']

Hmm, im spending $400 bucks on another Nvidia card soon, maybe Nvidia can do it. Nvidia, what do ya think? I've never even heard of Nvidia Pro until now and my wallet doesn't want to hear about it.



If OpenGL stereo support is the main factor in that decision to spend $400, I would wait for support first. I don't think you're going to get the solution you desire in this case, so just trying to save you some angst/rage in the future.

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#11
Posted 11/30/2011 06:45 PM   
Stereogaming with opengl games will not be possible on quadrocards unless the game itself supports quadbuffered opengl. Most if not all opengl games don't.
Prey1 is really good in 3d though. Not without flaws but certainly playable!
Stereogaming with opengl games will not be possible on quadrocards unless the game itself supports quadbuffered opengl. Most if not all opengl games don't.

Prey1 is really good in 3d though. Not without flaws but certainly playable!

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#12
Posted 11/30/2011 07:10 PM   
[quote name='chiz' date='30 November 2011 - 09:44 AM' timestamp='1322678652' post='1335431']
Yeah that's what I think but I doubt we'll ever hear a definitive response from Nvidia on it, certainly not from Andrew. While he's certainly not some low-level peon over there, the decision not to support OpenGL on 3D Vision is most probably being made a good bit above his head.

Also, I don't think its necessarily to protect 3D Vision Pro, its more to protect their lucrative Quadro/Tesla professional solutions. That's the key to unlocking OpenGL stereo, a $1000+ video card, not the glasses since you can also use normal 3D Vision glasses with Quadro cards for OpenGL stereo support.
[/quote]

There's 3D Vision and 3D Vision Pro. 3D Vision Pro is needed to unlock all the stereographic features of the Quadro line, for applications supporting Quad Buffered Open GL stereo. If 3D Vision Pro is not used, Nvidia disables all stereographic support within the driver. I may be wrong, but you do know there are Open GL drivers for GTX 4 and 5 series GPUs? The only way to lock stereographic capabilities is via control of the different lines via their emitter.

http://www.nvidia.com/object/3d-vision-professional-users.html

http://developer.nvidia.com/opengl-driver

http://developer.nvidia.com/opengl
[quote name='chiz' date='30 November 2011 - 09:44 AM' timestamp='1322678652' post='1335431']

Yeah that's what I think but I doubt we'll ever hear a definitive response from Nvidia on it, certainly not from Andrew. While he's certainly not some low-level peon over there, the decision not to support OpenGL on 3D Vision is most probably being made a good bit above his head.



Also, I don't think its necessarily to protect 3D Vision Pro, its more to protect their lucrative Quadro/Tesla professional solutions. That's the key to unlocking OpenGL stereo, a $1000+ video card, not the glasses since you can also use normal 3D Vision glasses with Quadro cards for OpenGL stereo support.





There's 3D Vision and 3D Vision Pro. 3D Vision Pro is needed to unlock all the stereographic features of the Quadro line, for applications supporting Quad Buffered Open GL stereo. If 3D Vision Pro is not used, Nvidia disables all stereographic support within the driver. I may be wrong, but you do know there are Open GL drivers for GTX 4 and 5 series GPUs? The only way to lock stereographic capabilities is via control of the different lines via their emitter.



http://www.nvidia.com/object/3d-vision-professional-users.html



http://developer.nvidia.com/opengl-driver



http://developer.nvidia.com/opengl

#13
Posted 11/30/2011 07:13 PM   
[quote name='Likay' date='30 November 2011 - 02:10 PM' timestamp='1322680235' post='1335446']
Stereogaming with opengl games will not be possible on quadrocards unless the game itself supports quadbuffered opengl. Most if not all opengl games don't.
Prey1 is really good in 3d though. Not without flaws but certainly playable!
[/quote]
Ah yeah that's right, I do remember that discussion. I believe the older supported OpenGL games with legacy pre-G80 hardware/drivers use an auto-stereo OpenGL feature of the driver that is disabled/removed from current drivers. The newer 3D Vision OpenGL implementation requires native quad-buffer stereo support from the app/game itself.

[quote name='D-Man11' date='30 November 2011 - 02:13 PM' timestamp='1322680405' post='1335447']
There's 3D Vision and 3D Vision Pro. 3D Vision Pro is needed to unlock all the stereographic features of the Quadro line, for applications supporting Quad Buffered Open GL stereo. If 3D Vision Pro is not used, Nvidia disables all stereographic support within the driver. I may be wrong, but you do know there are Open GL drivers for GTX 4 and 5 series GPUs? The only way to lock stereographic capabilities is via control of the different lines via their emitter.

http://www.nvidia.com/object/3d-vision-professional-users.html

http://developer.nvidia.com/opengl-driver

http://developer.nvidia.com/opengl
[/quote]
I don't think that's the case unless Nvidia at some point disabled the standard 3D Vision support on Quadro. Keep in mind, Pro is relatively new (about one year) and 3D Stereo support in OpenGL for Quadro has been around since 3D Vision launched. Pro has some advantages for sure, but from what I've read it mainly comes down to mobility, bi-directional communication, and more concurrent users. Even just searching around a bit on the forums you can see people who are using normal 3D Vision kit with their Quadros for stereo 3D applications.

http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=216027
[quote name='Likay' date='30 November 2011 - 02:10 PM' timestamp='1322680235' post='1335446']

Stereogaming with opengl games will not be possible on quadrocards unless the game itself supports quadbuffered opengl. Most if not all opengl games don't.

Prey1 is really good in 3d though. Not without flaws but certainly playable!



Ah yeah that's right, I do remember that discussion. I believe the older supported OpenGL games with legacy pre-G80 hardware/drivers use an auto-stereo OpenGL feature of the driver that is disabled/removed from current drivers. The newer 3D Vision OpenGL implementation requires native quad-buffer stereo support from the app/game itself.



[quote name='D-Man11' date='30 November 2011 - 02:13 PM' timestamp='1322680405' post='1335447']

There's 3D Vision and 3D Vision Pro. 3D Vision Pro is needed to unlock all the stereographic features of the Quadro line, for applications supporting Quad Buffered Open GL stereo. If 3D Vision Pro is not used, Nvidia disables all stereographic support within the driver. I may be wrong, but you do know there are Open GL drivers for GTX 4 and 5 series GPUs? The only way to lock stereographic capabilities is via control of the different lines via their emitter.



http://www.nvidia.com/object/3d-vision-professional-users.html



http://developer.nvidia.com/opengl-driver



http://developer.nvidia.com/opengl



I don't think that's the case unless Nvidia at some point disabled the standard 3D Vision support on Quadro. Keep in mind, Pro is relatively new (about one year) and 3D Stereo support in OpenGL for Quadro has been around since 3D Vision launched. Pro has some advantages for sure, but from what I've read it mainly comes down to mobility, bi-directional communication, and more concurrent users. Even just searching around a bit on the forums you can see people who are using normal 3D Vision kit with their Quadros for stereo 3D applications.



http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=216027

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#14
Posted 11/30/2011 07:30 PM   
Thanks for pointing that out, I was unaware that the Quadro line functioned with anything other than the Pro glasses for stereographic apllications. Good to know.
Thanks for pointing that out, I was unaware that the Quadro line functioned with anything other than the Pro glasses for stereographic apllications. Good to know.

#15
Posted 11/30/2011 08:01 PM   
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