Your 2233rz settings?
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I figure most people here are using the 2233rz. I just got it myself. After fiddling with it a bit, I have to say: Best gaming LCD out there by far; mediocre general-use monitor. I just can't find settings that I like for regular browsing, even tweaking them myself.

What are you using for
regular use? (browsing, word, etc.). I just use Internet mode for now--least painful without too many color problems. Most of the modes are far too bright.
gaming? Either Movie (which I actually prefer to Game, though the two are similar) or Dynamic Contrast (which is the best, UNTIL you go into a night flight in Flight Simulator X and the screen becomes 99% black).

Also a big LOL @ the "engineer-tested" default settings, which have brightness at MAX 100, and Contrast at 90 or thereabouts. Didn't know all it took to be an engineer was to just crank everything to Max.
I figure most people here are using the 2233rz. I just got it myself. After fiddling with it a bit, I have to say: Best gaming LCD out there by far; mediocre general-use monitor. I just can't find settings that I like for regular browsing, even tweaking them myself.



What are you using for

regular use? (browsing, word, etc.). I just use Internet mode for now--least painful without too many color problems. Most of the modes are far too bright.

gaming? Either Movie (which I actually prefer to Game, though the two are similar) or Dynamic Contrast (which is the best, UNTIL you go into a night flight in Flight Simulator X and the screen becomes 99% black).



Also a big LOL @ the "engineer-tested" default settings, which have brightness at MAX 100, and Contrast at 90 or thereabouts. Didn't know all it took to be an engineer was to just crank everything to Max.

#1
Posted 07/19/2009 09:57 PM   
[quote name='asumikey' post='567343' date='Jul 19 2009, 03:57 PM']Didn't know all it took to be an engineer was to just crank everything to Max.[/quote]

[b][size=5]Hell yeah... crank it to the max![/size][/b] (EE student)
[quote name='asumikey' post='567343' date='Jul 19 2009, 03:57 PM']Didn't know all it took to be an engineer was to just crank everything to Max.



Hell yeah... crank it to the max! (EE student)

The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire.

--Robert A. Heinlein

#2
Posted 07/19/2009 10:02 PM   
I guess they really are "engineer-approved"!
I guess they really are "engineer-approved"!

#3
Posted 07/19/2009 10:30 PM   
I really don't use Dynamic Contrast for gaming. Should I?

cheers
I really don't use Dynamic Contrast for gaming. Should I?



cheers

nope

#4
Posted 07/19/2009 10:56 PM   
My optimal display settings will probably vary greatly from yours. Out of the box, the displays settings were pretty poor, especially coming from a Dell 2408WFP which has awesome color.

I use the following settings:
Brightness: 100
Contrast: 50
Red: 70
Green: 60
Blue: 20
Gamma: Mode3
Sharpness: 24

I found these settings give excellent, neutral color rendition on my panel, but your results may vary.

I used this image: [url="http://tomyeah.com/images/Monitor%20calibration%20chart.jpg"]http://tomyeah.com/images/Monitor%20calibration%20chart.jpg[/url]
Adjust your contrast until the color bars have detail all the way to the end of each bar. And then adjust to the color until skintones appear natural. The chin should be a little rosey.
Then adjust the brightness. I'm used to a bright display, the 2408WFP is far brighter than the 2233RZ.

After adjustment, the display is very good with only minor banding. It just takes some tweaking.

I was formerly employed as a photographer, and have been doing it for many years. In addition to digital photography I am quite experienced with traditional darkroom techniques which require manual color adjustment, which ends up being quite time consuming.


Amorphous

[quote name='asumikey' post='567343' date='Jul 19 2009, 02:57 PM']I figure most people here are using the 2233rz. I just got it myself. After fiddling with it a bit, I have to say: Best gaming LCD out there by far; mediocre general-use monitor. I just can't find settings that I like for regular browsing, even tweaking them myself.

What are you using for
regular use? (browsing, word, etc.). I just use Internet mode for now--least painful without too many color problems. Most of the modes are far too bright.
gaming? Either Movie (which I actually prefer to Game, though the two are similar) or Dynamic Contrast (which is the best, UNTIL you go into a night flight in Flight Simulator X and the screen becomes 99% black).

Also a big LOL @ the "engineer-tested" default settings, which have brightness at MAX 100, and Contrast at 90 or thereabouts. Didn't know all it took to be an engineer was to just crank everything to Max.[/quote]
My optimal display settings will probably vary greatly from yours. Out of the box, the displays settings were pretty poor, especially coming from a Dell 2408WFP which has awesome color.



I use the following settings:

Brightness: 100

Contrast: 50

Red: 70

Green: 60

Blue: 20

Gamma: Mode3

Sharpness: 24



I found these settings give excellent, neutral color rendition on my panel, but your results may vary.



I used this image: http://tomyeah.com/images/Monitor%20calibration%20chart.jpg

Adjust your contrast until the color bars have detail all the way to the end of each bar. And then adjust to the color until skintones appear natural. The chin should be a little rosey.

Then adjust the brightness. I'm used to a bright display, the 2408WFP is far brighter than the 2233RZ.



After adjustment, the display is very good with only minor banding. It just takes some tweaking.



I was formerly employed as a photographer, and have been doing it for many years. In addition to digital photography I am quite experienced with traditional darkroom techniques which require manual color adjustment, which ends up being quite time consuming.





Amorphous



[quote name='asumikey' post='567343' date='Jul 19 2009, 02:57 PM']I figure most people here are using the 2233rz. I just got it myself. After fiddling with it a bit, I have to say: Best gaming LCD out there by far; mediocre general-use monitor. I just can't find settings that I like for regular browsing, even tweaking them myself.



What are you using for

regular use? (browsing, word, etc.). I just use Internet mode for now--least painful without too many color problems. Most of the modes are far too bright.

gaming? Either Movie (which I actually prefer to Game, though the two are similar) or Dynamic Contrast (which is the best, UNTIL you go into a night flight in Flight Simulator X and the screen becomes 99% black).



Also a big LOL @ the "engineer-tested" default settings, which have brightness at MAX 100, and Contrast at 90 or thereabouts. Didn't know all it took to be an engineer was to just crank everything to Max.

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#5
Posted 07/19/2009 10:58 PM   
Great info, thanks Amorphous. Agree about the awful out-of-the-box settings (and I'm no expert, but even I can tell). I'm adjusting right now per your recommendations. Do you use the same settings for gaming?
Great info, thanks Amorphous. Agree about the awful out-of-the-box settings (and I'm no expert, but even I can tell). I'm adjusting right now per your recommendations. Do you use the same settings for gaming?

#6
Posted 07/19/2009 11:07 PM   
[quote name='Amorphous' post='567382' date='Jul 20 2009, 12:58 AM']My optimal display settings will probably vary greatly from yours. Out of the box, the displays settings were pretty poor, especially coming from a Dell 2408WFP which has awesome color.

I use the following settings:
Brightness: 100
Contrast: 50
Red: 70
Green: 60
Blue: 20
Gamma: Mode3
Sharpness: 24

I found these settings give excellent, neutral color rendition on my panel, but your results may vary.

I used this image: [url="http://tomyeah.com/images/Monitor%20calibration%20chart.jpg"]http://tomyeah.com/images/Monitor%20calibration%20chart.jpg[/url]
Adjust your contrast until the color bars have detail all the way to the end of each bar. And then adjust to the color until skintones appear natural. The chin should be a little rosey.
Then adjust the brightness. I'm used to a bright display, the 2408WFP is far brighter than the 2233RZ.

After adjustment, the display is very good with only minor banding. It just takes some tweaking.

I was formerly employed as a photographer, and have been doing it for many years. In addition to digital photography I am quite experienced with traditional darkroom techniques which require manual color adjustment, which ends up being quite time consuming.


Amorphous[/quote]

hi!

ty for a good guide.
I used your settings as a default and came to the following myself:

Brightness: 100
Contrast: 60
Red: 70
Green: 50
Blue: 30
Gamma: Mode2
Sharpness: 24

btw I also have some background with digital imaging, have been working for several magazines, processing images for print - so our monitors were always calibrated by professionals. that ofc doesnt imply that Im able to do that myself. ;) but try out my settings and judge for yourself.. as you mentioned - perception might be quite subjective..
[quote name='Amorphous' post='567382' date='Jul 20 2009, 12:58 AM']My optimal display settings will probably vary greatly from yours. Out of the box, the displays settings were pretty poor, especially coming from a Dell 2408WFP which has awesome color.



I use the following settings:

Brightness: 100

Contrast: 50

Red: 70

Green: 60

Blue: 20

Gamma: Mode3

Sharpness: 24



I found these settings give excellent, neutral color rendition on my panel, but your results may vary.



I used this image: http://tomyeah.com/images/Monitor%20calibration%20chart.jpg

Adjust your contrast until the color bars have detail all the way to the end of each bar. And then adjust to the color until skintones appear natural. The chin should be a little rosey.

Then adjust the brightness. I'm used to a bright display, the 2408WFP is far brighter than the 2233RZ.



After adjustment, the display is very good with only minor banding. It just takes some tweaking.



I was formerly employed as a photographer, and have been doing it for many years. In addition to digital photography I am quite experienced with traditional darkroom techniques which require manual color adjustment, which ends up being quite time consuming.





Amorphous



hi!



ty for a good guide.

I used your settings as a default and came to the following myself:



Brightness: 100

Contrast: 60

Red: 70

Green: 50

Blue: 30

Gamma: Mode2

Sharpness: 24



btw I also have some background with digital imaging, have been working for several magazines, processing images for print - so our monitors were always calibrated by professionals. that ofc doesnt imply that Im able to do that myself. ;) but try out my settings and judge for yourself.. as you mentioned - perception might be quite subjective..

3D Vision with Acer H274H

#7
Posted 07/20/2009 11:31 AM   
Now if only all these settings would work in 3D mode......I'm so sick of using the locked preset. It very often keeps me from wanting to play in 3D because I'm used to a much different color scheme and the one used for 3D mode just looks godawful to me :(
Now if only all these settings would work in 3D mode......I'm so sick of using the locked preset. It very often keeps me from wanting to play in 3D because I'm used to a much different color scheme and the one used for 3D mode just looks godawful to me :(

Current parts:



3D Vision w/Acer HN274H 27"

ASUS Sabertooth

i7 2600k

ASUS GTX 580

Corsair Vengeance 8GB DDR3 1866

W7

#8
Posted 07/20/2009 05:18 PM   
[quote name='magicandy' post='567690' date='Jul 20 2009, 05:18 PM']Now if only all these settings would work in 3D mode......I'm so sick of using the locked preset. It very often keeps me from wanting to play in 3D because I'm used to a much different color scheme and the one used for 3D mode just looks godawful to me :([/quote]
3D makes you use dynamic? That's unfortunate. Been debating whether to get it, if just b/c I want to try it on Audiosurf, which already feels "3D" when you get locked in during a great song.
[quote name='magicandy' post='567690' date='Jul 20 2009, 05:18 PM']Now if only all these settings would work in 3D mode......I'm so sick of using the locked preset. It very often keeps me from wanting to play in 3D because I'm used to a much different color scheme and the one used for 3D mode just looks godawful to me :(

3D makes you use dynamic? That's unfortunate. Been debating whether to get it, if just b/c I want to try it on Audiosurf, which already feels "3D" when you get locked in during a great song.

#9
Posted 07/20/2009 06:32 PM   
Here is an ICC profile : [url="http://img1.focus-numerique.com/focus/profils-LCD/Samsung%20SyncMaster%202233rz.icc"]http://img1.focus-numerique.com/focus/prof...er%202233rz.icc[/url]

#10
Posted 07/20/2009 09:01 PM   
[quote name='Poil' post='567812' date='Jul 20 2009, 09:01 PM']Here is an ICC profile : [url="http://img1.focus-numerique.com/focus/profils-LCD/Samsung%20SyncMaster%202233rz.icc"]http://img1.focus-numerique.com/focus/prof...er%202233rz.icc[/url][/quote]
Thanks how do I use that? What does it do?
[quote name='Poil' post='567812' date='Jul 20 2009, 09:01 PM']Here is an ICC profile : http://img1.focus-numerique.com/focus/prof...er%202233rz.icc

Thanks how do I use that? What does it do?

#11
Posted 07/20/2009 09:25 PM   
My english isn't very good so here is a copy paste from wikipedia [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icc_profile"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icc_profile[/url] :

[quote]In color management, an ICC profile is a set of data that characterizes a color input or output device, or a color space, according to standards promulgated by the International Color Consortium (ICC). Profiles describe the color attributes of a particular device or viewing requirement by defining a mapping between the device source or target color space and a profile connection space (PCS). This PCS is either CIELAB (L*a*b*) or CIEXYZ. Mappings may be specified using tables, to which interpolation is applied, or through a series of parameters for transformations.

Every device that captures or displays color can have its own profile. Some manufacturers.[1] provide profiles for their products, and there are several products[2] that allow end users to generate their own color profile, typically through the use of a colorimeter or preferably a spectrophotometer.[/quote]

Here is how to use but in french (with screenshot I think it's easy) :
[url="http://www.focus-numerique.com/test-42/telecharger-un-profil-calibre-pour-son-ecran-installer-profil-windows-2.html"]http://www.focus-numerique.com/test-42/tel...-windows-2.html[/url]
My english isn't very good so here is a copy paste from wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icc_profile :



In color management, an ICC profile is a set of data that characterizes a color input or output device, or a color space, according to standards promulgated by the International Color Consortium (ICC). Profiles describe the color attributes of a particular device or viewing requirement by defining a mapping between the device source or target color space and a profile connection space (PCS). This PCS is either CIELAB (L*a*b*) or CIEXYZ. Mappings may be specified using tables, to which interpolation is applied, or through a series of parameters for transformations.



Every device that captures or displays color can have its own profile. Some manufacturers.[1] provide profiles for their products, and there are several products[2] that allow end users to generate their own color profile, typically through the use of a colorimeter or preferably a spectrophotometer.




Here is how to use but in french (with screenshot I think it's easy) :

http://www.focus-numerique.com/test-42/tel...-windows-2.html

#12
Posted 07/21/2009 04:40 PM   
[quote name='asumikey' post='567825' date='Jul 20 2009, 11:25 PM']Thanks how do I use that? What does it do?[/quote]

Here in English for ya mate /thumbup.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':thumbup:' />

[url="http://www.digitalversus.com/article-424-2900-141.html"]http://www.digitalversus.com/article-424-2900-141.html[/url]
[quote name='asumikey' post='567825' date='Jul 20 2009, 11:25 PM']Thanks how do I use that? What does it do?



Here in English for ya mate /thumbup.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':thumbup:' />



http://www.digitalversus.com/article-424-2900-141.html

#13
Posted 07/21/2009 05:19 PM   
[quote name='asumikey' post='567740' date='Jul 20 2009, 02:32 PM']3D makes you use dynamic? That's unfortunate. Been debating whether to get it, if just b/c I want to try it on Audiosurf, which already feels "3D" when you get locked in during a great song.[/quote]

It doesn't force dynamic contrast but it forces 100% brightness/75 contrast, which I actually think is worse tbh....
[quote name='asumikey' post='567740' date='Jul 20 2009, 02:32 PM']3D makes you use dynamic? That's unfortunate. Been debating whether to get it, if just b/c I want to try it on Audiosurf, which already feels "3D" when you get locked in during a great song.



It doesn't force dynamic contrast but it forces 100% brightness/75 contrast, which I actually think is worse tbh....

Current parts:



3D Vision w/Acer HN274H 27"

ASUS Sabertooth

i7 2600k

ASUS GTX 580

Corsair Vengeance 8GB DDR3 1866

W7

#14
Posted 07/22/2009 01:21 PM   
Thanks guys, I will try that out today. The reds and oranges are really bothering me right now.

[quote name='magicandy' post='568519' date='Jul 22 2009, 01:21 PM']It doesn't force dynamic contrast but it forces 100% brightness/75 contrast, which I actually think is worse tbh....[/quote]

Totally agree. I don't know how on earth they decided that the default settings should be 100/75. 100/100 I could understand and just attribute to laziness/apathy, but here it looks like someone actually decided that 100/75 was a good default setting. Good default for a store maybe so you can catch someone's eye from 100 feet away, but for regular use not so much.
Thanks guys, I will try that out today. The reds and oranges are really bothering me right now.



[quote name='magicandy' post='568519' date='Jul 22 2009, 01:21 PM']It doesn't force dynamic contrast but it forces 100% brightness/75 contrast, which I actually think is worse tbh....



Totally agree. I don't know how on earth they decided that the default settings should be 100/75. 100/100 I could understand and just attribute to laziness/apathy, but here it looks like someone actually decided that 100/75 was a good default setting. Good default for a store maybe so you can catch someone's eye from 100 feet away, but for regular use not so much.

#15
Posted 07/23/2009 02:26 PM   
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