*Real* 3D movies thread
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[quote="Dugom"] With passive 3D you loose half the Res again.[/quote] With passive TV’s. You can’t say passive in general as thats in accurate. My personal oppinnion is that only Blu-ray and rip with original stream Are the only ones worth my time.
Dugom said:
With passive 3D you loose half the Res again.


With passive TV’s. You can’t say passive in general as thats in accurate.

My personal oppinnion is that only Blu-ray and rip with original stream Are the only ones worth my time.

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#61
Posted 03/12/2018 07:20 AM   
[quote="Metal-O-Holic"][quote="Dugom"] With passive 3D you loose half the Res again.[/quote] With passive TV’s. You can’t say passive in general as thats in accurate. My personal oppinnion is that only Blu-ray and rip with original stream Are the only ones worth my time. [/quote] Agreed, and original or hqrip 3D bluray look very nice on 4k passive tv
Metal-O-Holic said:
Dugom said:
With passive 3D you loose half the Res again.


With passive TV’s. You can’t say passive in general as thats in accurate.

My personal oppinnion is that only Blu-ray and rip with original stream Are the only ones worth my time.


Agreed, and original or hqrip 3D bluray look very nice on 4k passive tv

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#62
Posted 03/12/2018 11:41 AM   
Note that bluray 3D convergence/depth appears to improve a little when using Sony products like PS4, and setup for TV uses much smaller screen (like 12” screen size setting for 65” TV)...
Note that bluray 3D convergence/depth appears to improve a little when using Sony products like PS4, and setup for TV uses much smaller screen (like 12” screen size setting for 65” TV)...

#63
Posted 03/12/2018 03:19 PM   
I have Panasonic dmp-bdt500 and it has a ”strength” adjustment but i haven’t much used it. If the film is made with depth there is depth. Besides 3d image that has enough lumens os much more imersive And ” depthy” than a image too dark.
I have Panasonic dmp-bdt500 and it has a ”strength” adjustment but i haven’t much used it.
If the film is made with depth there is depth. Besides 3d image that has enough lumens os much more imersive
And ” depthy” than a image too dark.

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#64
Posted 03/12/2018 03:31 PM   
[quote="Metal-O-Holic"]With passive TV’s. You can’t say passive in general as thats in accurate.[/quote]Unless you use polarized active filter or double proj, like in most theater, yeah. Sorry for my lack of accuracy. :) For Full Res, go to active 3D (TV, monitor, projector) or dual projectors with polarized filter or active projector with an polarized active filter ( Z Screen from RealD / X-FILTER from Leonis Cinema / Rotator Polarizing Filter from MasterImage ). Z Screen, no eletronic glasses: [img]http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2009/05/reald-pro-3d-projector-rm-eng.jpg[/img] [quote="chtiblue"]Agreed, and original or hqrip 3D bluray look very nice on 4k passive tv[/quote]Yes, if the TV chip is good for upscaling, then with 4K screen you may not lost much. Even if half the lines are black. [quote="whyme466"] Note that bluray 3D convergence/depth appears to improve a little when using Sony products like PS4, and setup for TV uses much smaller screen (like 12” screen size setting for 65” TV)...[/quote]Nop, that's only for gaming, not movies. I've explained that here (in 2013 for PS3): [url]https://translate.google.fr/translate?sl=fr&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=fr&ie=UTF-8&u=https%3A%2F%2Fforum.hardware.fr%2Fhfr%2FJeuxVideo%2FConsoles%2Freglages-ameliorer-relief-sujet_176408_1.htm%23t9762838&edit-text=&act=url[/url] Movies are not settable, depth can't be changed. The only thing you can do is change the parallax, which will move all the scene forward or backward, but the depth won't change a bit. (Also doable with Samsung TV as well it's called "3D perspective" option) .
Metal-O-Holic said:With passive TV’s. You can’t say passive in general as thats in accurate.
Unless you use polarized active filter or double proj, like in most theater, yeah. Sorry for my lack of accuracy. :)


For Full Res, go to active 3D (TV, monitor, projector) or dual projectors with polarized filter or active projector with an polarized active filter ( Z Screen from RealD / X-FILTER from Leonis Cinema / Rotator Polarizing Filter from MasterImage ).


Z Screen, no eletronic glasses:
Image



chtiblue said:Agreed, and original or hqrip 3D bluray look very nice on 4k passive tv
Yes, if the TV chip is good for upscaling, then with 4K screen you may not lost much. Even if half the lines are black.


whyme466 said: Note that bluray 3D convergence/depth appears to improve a little when using Sony products like PS4, and setup for TV uses much smaller screen (like 12” screen size setting for 65” TV)...
Nop, that's only for gaming, not movies. I've explained that here (in 2013 for PS3):
https://translate.google.fr/translate?sl=fr&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=fr&ie=UTF-8&u=https%3A%2F%2Fforum.hardware.fr%2Fhfr%2FJeuxVideo%2FConsoles%2Freglages-ameliorer-relief-sujet_176408_1.htm%23t9762838&edit-text=&act=url

Movies are not settable, depth can't be changed. The only thing you can do is change the parallax, which will move all the scene forward or backward, but the depth won't change a bit. (Also doable with Samsung TV as well it's called "3D perspective" option)

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Atleast to my knoledge tvs with 4k panel offer full 3d resolution. By the way Dugom, is there any other way than dual projection ;D LOL
Atleast to my knoledge tvs with 4k panel offer full 3d resolution.

By the way Dugom, is there any other way than dual projection ;D LOL

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#66
Posted 03/12/2018 04:35 PM   
[quote="Metal-O-Holic"]By the way Dugom, is there any other way than dual projection ;D LOL[/quote]It's a complex system, I always see 3D movies in theather. You'll never match their screens. :) .
Metal-O-Holic said:By the way Dugom, is there any other way than dual projection ;D LOL
It's a complex system, I always see 3D movies in theather. You'll never match their screens. :)



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Yes it is. I never see 3d AGAIN in cinemas. I have dissappointed every time but Once. That Was in stockholm IMAX. It Was great but still my screen has less Crosstalk as there and it Was not bad At all the imax.
Yes it is. I never see 3d AGAIN in cinemas. I have dissappointed every time but
Once. That Was in stockholm IMAX. It Was great but still my screen has less
Crosstalk as there and it Was not bad At all the imax.

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#68
Posted 03/12/2018 05:03 PM   
Has anyone who has a VR headset used Bigscreen? I found out that best results playing 3D movies vary from environment to environment. In fact the bigger the screen I use the worse the 3D looks. Sometimes even seeing double images, and low convergence. Not sure if it has to do with the Aspect ratio of the screens or what. The best environment I found to be was, the living room, however you can only fit 3 more people in that room, and not more like other environments. It is not as good as watching it on a 4K tv in 3D. But If you have a VR headset this is a fun way to watch 3D movies with Friends and other people over the internet, and it is really immersive. Only works with SBS and OU, though. Even though, I'm not sure which one looks better.
Has anyone who has a VR headset used Bigscreen? I found out that best results playing 3D movies vary from environment to environment. In fact the bigger the screen I use the worse the 3D looks. Sometimes even seeing double images, and low convergence. Not sure if it has to do with the Aspect ratio of the screens or what. The best environment I found to be was, the living room, however you can only fit 3 more people in that room, and not more like other environments.

It is not as good as watching it on a 4K tv in 3D. But If you have a VR headset this is a fun way to watch 3D movies with Friends and other people over the internet, and it is really immersive. Only works with SBS and OU, though. Even though, I'm not sure which one looks better.

#69
Posted 03/12/2018 05:42 PM   
Sounds like you need to alter the ever important and overlooked viewing distance to screen setting. aka display size, in the registry
Sounds like you need to alter the ever important and overlooked viewing distance to screen setting.

aka display size, in the registry

#70
Posted 03/12/2018 05:53 PM   
Hey D-Man for setting up Ps3 3D on my 65" TV screen. What screen size should I set it to for best 3D?
Hey D-Man for setting up Ps3 3D on my 65" TV screen. What screen size should I set it to for best 3D?

#71
Posted 11/24/2018 09:39 PM   
3D is very weak on PS3, if you want great 3D, do this setting (French translation): I tested the 3D on the PS3 with Uncharted 3 and Sony does not allow any good settings. Indeed, the console once set to 55 inches (the size of my TV) in Settings / Display Settings / Video Output Settings / HDMI / Automatic. The maximum separation was 2cm, despite the setting in game of the "Force 3D" to the maximum! While the goal is to get the distance between your eyes on the horizon, 5 / 6cm in the adult, to have a maximum relief, suddenly the relief was flat! In order to have a really good relief, when setting the size of your screen in the PS3's display menu, choose about 10 inches (for 40 inches) and about 20 "(for 80"), in order to get a real separation, and therefore a true depth of relief. If the relief is too strong you can lower it directly in the game by doing in the main menu (Square / Display / Force 3D), because you still have to get used to it, otherwise you can always put more inches in the Settings display to reduce the separation. Be careful if the separation of the horizon exceeds the distance between the eyes of people who play or watch the game (Because for example, the distance between the eyes of children is logically smaller than the adult), you go in divergence and hello the headache. That's what it looks like on a 55-inch, knowing that I've also changed the parallax via the Samsung TV (Menu / Picture / 3D / 3D Effect / Perspective 3D / +5) to bring out the screen scene, this decreases the depth and increases the spurt, it does not change the 3D effect absolutely: (Max separation 4.5cm) [img]http://s25.postimg.cc/j8kvmwhtn/3_D_Uncharted3_PS3.jpg[/img] That's what it gives without changing the parallax of the TV, a perfect depth of 6cm: [img]http://s25.postimg.cc/qna7fa3p7/S_paration_6cm_Unchargetd3_3_D.jpg[/img] If you have any questions, do not hesitate. More info on relief here: https://forum.hardware.fr/hfr/VideoSon/HiFi-HomeCinema/images-videos-crosstalk-sujet_125098_1.htm#t1569772
3D is very weak on PS3, if you want great 3D, do this setting (French translation):



I tested the 3D on the PS3 with Uncharted 3 and Sony does not allow any good settings.


Indeed, the console once set to 55 inches (the size of my TV) in Settings / Display Settings / Video Output Settings / HDMI / Automatic.

The maximum separation was 2cm, despite the setting in game of the "Force 3D" to the maximum!
While the goal is to get the distance between your eyes on the horizon, 5 / 6cm in the adult, to have a maximum relief, suddenly the relief was flat!

In order to have a really good relief, when setting the size of your screen in the PS3's display menu, choose about 10 inches (for 40 inches) and about 20 "(for 80"), in order to get a real separation, and therefore a true depth of relief.

If the relief is too strong you can lower it directly in the game by doing in the main menu (Square / Display / Force 3D), because you still have to get used to it, otherwise you can always put more inches in the Settings display to reduce the separation. Be careful if the separation of the horizon exceeds the distance between the eyes of people who play or watch the game (Because for example, the distance between the eyes of children is logically smaller than the adult), you go in divergence and hello the headache.

That's what it looks like on a 55-inch, knowing that I've also changed the parallax via the Samsung TV (Menu / Picture / 3D / 3D Effect / Perspective 3D / +5) to bring out the screen scene, this decreases the depth and increases the spurt, it does not change the 3D effect absolutely: (Max separation 4.5cm)
Image

That's what it gives without changing the parallax of the TV, a perfect depth of 6cm:
Image


If you have any questions, do not hesitate.


More info on relief here:
https://forum.hardware.fr/hfr/VideoSon/HiFi-HomeCinema/images-videos-crosstalk-sujet_125098_1.htm#t1569772
Real 3D movies are very few times better than (properly) converted. Avengers saga is a good example. With conversions you can avoid problems inherit to 3D cameras. I'm constructing a list of ONLY the BEST 3D contents, not only good 3D, but also [b]great and enjoyable[/b]: [b][url]http://www.tridimensional.info/products/[/url][/b] I update the list every week with new titles and videos demonstrating it. Every title in that list is because I have seen personally with my eyes and my original blu-rays (some pirated 3D movies have the 3D altered and frequently ruined).
Real 3D movies are very few times better than (properly) converted. Avengers saga is a good example.
With conversions you can avoid problems inherit to 3D cameras.

I'm constructing a list of ONLY the BEST 3D contents, not only good 3D, but also great and enjoyable:

http://www.tridimensional.info/products/

I update the list every week with new titles and videos demonstrating it. Every title in that list is because I have seen personally with my eyes and my original blu-rays (some pirated 3D movies have the 3D altered and frequently ruined).

#73
Posted 11/25/2018 11:51 PM   
Paramount is urging theaters to show Ang Lee's new sci-fi movie at 120 fps https://www.engadget.com/2019/03/13/paramount-ang-lee-sci-fi-film-hfr/ The two-time Oscar winner is shooting his upcoming film, sci-fi assassin thriller Gemini Man, in 3D at 120 frames-per-second (fps) and 4K resolution.
Paramount is urging theaters to show Ang Lee's new sci-fi movie at 120 fps


https://www.engadget.com/2019/03/13/paramount-ang-lee-sci-fi-film-hfr/


The two-time Oscar winner is shooting his upcoming film, sci-fi assassin thriller Gemini Man, in 3D at 120 frames-per-second (fps) and 4K resolution.

#74
Posted 03/18/2019 07:12 PM   
SO Um, do you need 3D vision to play 3d mkv or 3d BD disks? And or are there enhacements?
SO Um, do you need 3D vision to play 3d mkv or 3d BD disks? And or are there enhacements?

#75
Posted 03/18/2019 10:08 PM   
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