Video of ghost test
This is the ghosting I get with some older 3D glasses (eDim) + CRT monitor (120Hz) + Nvidia 3D driver.
video: [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUOSRUBjIe4"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUOSRUBjIe4[/url]
Hopefully the new 3D Vision bundle is better allthough this is not bad?
The ghosting is the same all over the screen (equally good/bad).
test picture here: [url="http://www.3d.wep.dk/files/ghost_test_1680x1050.jps"]http://www.3d.wep.dk/files/ghost_test_1680x1050.jps[/url] if interested.

Edit: I get ~30% white ghosting (outside top white square)
and ~3% black ghosting (outside bottom black square)

(with Stereo Gamma 1.20, Digital Vibrance 1/4 low, Brightness 101%, Contrast 97%, red color 100% on monitor to compensate for glasses)
This is the ghosting I get with some older 3D glasses (eDim) + CRT monitor (120Hz) + Nvidia 3D driver.

video: " rel="nofollow" target = "_blank">

Hopefully the new 3D Vision bundle is better allthough this is not bad?

The ghosting is the same all over the screen (equally good/bad).

test picture here: http://www.3d.wep.dk/files/ghost_test_1680x1050.jps if interested.



Edit: I get ~30% white ghosting (outside top white square)

and ~3% black ghosting (outside bottom black square)



(with Stereo Gamma 1.20, Digital Vibrance 1/4 low, Brightness 101%, Contrast 97%, red color 100% on monitor to compensate for glasses)

#1
Posted 03/22/2009 04:53 AM   
[quote name='Freke1' post='521308' date='Mar 21 2009, 08:53 PM']This is the ghosting I get with some older 3D glasses (eDim) + CRT monitor (120Hz) + Nvidia 3D driver.
video: [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUOSRUBjIe4"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUOSRUBjIe4[/url]
Hopefully the new 3D Vision bundle is better allthough this is not bad?
The ghosting is the same all over the screen (equally good/bad).
test picture here: [url="http://www.3d.wep.dk/files/ghost_test_1680x1050.jps"]http://www.3d.wep.dk/files/ghost_test_1680x1050.jps[/url] if interested.[/quote]


Wow! This is exáctly what I've been looking for.
Maybe some other people can post their ghosting for other 3d-solutions.
(I really wonder what 2233RZ + 3d Vision glasses is like)
I will post a movie of Zalman later (right now too busy)
[quote name='Freke1' post='521308' date='Mar 21 2009, 08:53 PM']This is the ghosting I get with some older 3D glasses (eDim) + CRT monitor (120Hz) + Nvidia 3D driver.

video: " rel="nofollow" target = "_blank">

Hopefully the new 3D Vision bundle is better allthough this is not bad?

The ghosting is the same all over the screen (equally good/bad).

test picture here: http://www.3d.wep.dk/files/ghost_test_1680x1050.jps if interested.





Wow! This is exáctly what I've been looking for.

Maybe some other people can post their ghosting for other 3d-solutions.

(I really wonder what 2233RZ + 3d Vision glasses is like)

I will post a movie of Zalman later (right now too busy)

My system:
3d Vision CD 1.07
2233RZ+Nvidia Glasses
8800GT 512MB
P965 chipset
Core 2 Duo E6600
1050x1680+2x 1680x1050 in clone mode (One of them via a USB graphics card)

#2
Posted 03/22/2009 05:41 PM   
[quote name='Sjonnie' post='521473' date='Mar 22 2009, 06:41 PM']Wow! This is exáctly what I've been looking for.
Maybe some other people can post their ghosting for other 3d-solutions.
(I really wonder what 2233RZ + 3d Vision glasses is like)
I will post a movie of Zalman later (right now too busy)[/quote]

That looks identical to what I usually see with the 3d vision shutters
[quote name='Sjonnie' post='521473' date='Mar 22 2009, 06:41 PM']Wow! This is exáctly what I've been looking for.

Maybe some other people can post their ghosting for other 3d-solutions.

(I really wonder what 2233RZ + 3d Vision glasses is like)

I will post a movie of Zalman later (right now too busy)



That looks identical to what I usually see with the 3d vision shutters

#3
Posted 03/22/2009 08:11 PM   
Yup, thats the same thing I'm seeing with the viewsonic 3d monitor and the 3d vision glasses. I've tried 1.04, 1.05 and 1.06.
Yup, thats the same thing I'm seeing with the viewsonic 3d monitor and the 3d vision glasses. I've tried 1.04, 1.05 and 1.06.

#4
Posted 03/23/2009 02:58 AM   
How do you test ghosting using the picture, i don't get it.. :wacko:
How do you test ghosting using the picture, i don't get it.. :wacko:

#5
Posted 03/23/2009 05:05 PM   
[quote name='Guz' post='521857' date='Mar 23 2009, 09:05 AM']How do you test ghosting using the picture, i don't get it.. :wacko:[/quote]

When you look at the square, you will see some sort of shadow of it beside it.
If you have much ghosting it isn't very noticable (light on white background and dark on black background)

You have to look at the color of the "shadow" and then look at the vertical bar which score belongs to that color of shadow.

Sorry for my English.
[quote name='Guz' post='521857' date='Mar 23 2009, 09:05 AM']How do you test ghosting using the picture, i don't get it.. :wacko:



When you look at the square, you will see some sort of shadow of it beside it.

If you have much ghosting it isn't very noticable (light on white background and dark on black background)



You have to look at the color of the "shadow" and then look at the vertical bar which score belongs to that color of shadow.



Sorry for my English.

My system:
3d Vision CD 1.07
2233RZ+Nvidia Glasses
8800GT 512MB
P965 chipset
Core 2 Duo E6600
1050x1680+2x 1680x1050 in clone mode (One of them via a USB graphics card)

#6
Posted 03/23/2009 05:22 PM   
[quote name='Guz' post='521857' date='Mar 23 2009, 06:05 PM']How do you test ghosting using the picture, i don't get it.. :wacko:[/quote]
it's a 3D picture (.jps)
rightclick - open with - stereo test application (on Win XP)
[quote name='Guz' post='521857' date='Mar 23 2009, 06:05 PM']How do you test ghosting using the picture, i don't get it.. :wacko:

it's a 3D picture (.jps)

rightclick - open with - stereo test application (on Win XP)

#7
Posted 03/23/2009 10:46 PM   
Thanks i get it. Watching the picture in 3D i get around 10% ghosting in both scales. This is with the samsung 2233rz and 3dvision glasses.
Thanks i get it. Watching the picture in 3D i get around 10% ghosting in both scales. This is with the samsung 2233rz and 3dvision glasses.

#8
Posted 03/24/2009 12:22 AM   
I'm using the Samsung bundle as well,

< 5% white ghosting and 10% black.
I'm using the Samsung bundle as well,



< 5% white ghosting and 10% black.

#9
Posted 03/24/2009 03:32 AM   
[quote name='Fox12' post='522081' date='Mar 23 2009, 07:32 PM']I'm using the Samsung bundle as well,

< 5% white ghosting and 10% black.[/quote]


Sounds good.

I will test mine in a few minutes. (I think I won't take the video anymore, this is good too)
[quote name='Fox12' post='522081' date='Mar 23 2009, 07:32 PM']I'm using the Samsung bundle as well,



< 5% white ghosting and 10% black.





Sounds good.



I will test mine in a few minutes. (I think I won't take the video anymore, this is good too)

My system:
3d Vision CD 1.07
2233RZ+Nvidia Glasses
8800GT 512MB
P965 chipset
Core 2 Duo E6600
1050x1680+2x 1680x1050 in clone mode (One of them via a USB graphics card)

#10
Posted 03/24/2009 10:37 AM   
[quote name='Fox12' post='522081' date='Mar 23 2009, 07:32 PM']I'm using the Samsung bundle as well,

< 5% white ghosting and 10% black.[/quote]



Wow! That means less ghosting than I expected.
I thought I would have similar scores since I don't notice much ghosting in game.
But my scores aren't even close to yours.

Where the ghosting is most depends on how I sit.
I can sit so, that there is totally no ghosting in the lower half (Maybe I don't notice ghosting in games because I mainly use this half?), but then there is very very much ghosting in upper half, about 50%.
If I use the whole screen the best position I can find has 10% at black square, 25% at white square.
I can also move my chair a feet more backwards, then I get approx. 20% at white square in combination with the 0% at black square (80 vs. 50 cm)

So if you sit at 50 cm, the best you get [b]with a Zalman ZM M220W[/b]:
10% black ghosting
25% white ghosting

At 80 cm:
0% black ghosting
20% white ghosting

But to get these scores you have to sit perfectly. If you want to show it to friends it takes you 5 minutes to explain them how to sit.


Are you sure you have so little ghosting, or are you being optimistic?
[quote name='Fox12' post='522081' date='Mar 23 2009, 07:32 PM']I'm using the Samsung bundle as well,



< 5% white ghosting and 10% black.







Wow! That means less ghosting than I expected.

I thought I would have similar scores since I don't notice much ghosting in game.

But my scores aren't even close to yours.



Where the ghosting is most depends on how I sit.

I can sit so, that there is totally no ghosting in the lower half (Maybe I don't notice ghosting in games because I mainly use this half?), but then there is very very much ghosting in upper half, about 50%.

If I use the whole screen the best position I can find has 10% at black square, 25% at white square.

I can also move my chair a feet more backwards, then I get approx. 20% at white square in combination with the 0% at black square (80 vs. 50 cm)



So if you sit at 50 cm, the best you get with a Zalman ZM M220W:

10% black ghosting

25% white ghosting



At 80 cm:

0% black ghosting

20% white ghosting



But to get these scores you have to sit perfectly. If you want to show it to friends it takes you 5 minutes to explain them how to sit.





Are you sure you have so little ghosting, or are you being optimistic?

My system:
3d Vision CD 1.07
2233RZ+Nvidia Glasses
8800GT 512MB
P965 chipset
Core 2 Duo E6600
1050x1680+2x 1680x1050 in clone mode (One of them via a USB graphics card)

#11
Posted 03/24/2009 11:37 AM   
[quote name='Sjonnie' post='522200' date='Mar 24 2009, 03:37 AM']Wow! That means less ghosting than I expected.
I thought I would have similar scores since I don't notice much ghosting in game.
But my scores aren't even close to yours.

Where the ghosting is most depends on how I sit.
I can sit so, that there is totally no ghosting in the lower half (Maybe I don't notice ghosting in games because I mainly use this half?), but then there is very very much ghosting in upper half, about 50%.
If I use the whole screen the best position I can find has 10% at black square, 25% at white square.
I can also move my chair a feet more backwards, then I get approx. 20% at white square in combination with the 0% at black square (80 vs. 50 cm)

So if you sit at 50 cm, the best you get [b]with a Zalman ZM M220W[/b]:
10% black ghosting
25% white ghosting

At 80 cm:
0% black ghosting
20% white ghosting

But to get these scores you have to sit perfectly. If you want to show it to friends it takes you 5 minutes to explain them how to sit.


Are you sure you have so little ghosting, or are you being optimistic?[/quote]


I mean, if you see 10% at both with shutterglasses, it should look the same without as in the attached picture. Is it the same?
[quote name='Sjonnie' post='522200' date='Mar 24 2009, 03:37 AM']Wow! That means less ghosting than I expected.

I thought I would have similar scores since I don't notice much ghosting in game.

But my scores aren't even close to yours.



Where the ghosting is most depends on how I sit.

I can sit so, that there is totally no ghosting in the lower half (Maybe I don't notice ghosting in games because I mainly use this half?), but then there is very very much ghosting in upper half, about 50%.

If I use the whole screen the best position I can find has 10% at black square, 25% at white square.

I can also move my chair a feet more backwards, then I get approx. 20% at white square in combination with the 0% at black square (80 vs. 50 cm)



So if you sit at 50 cm, the best you get with a Zalman ZM M220W:

10% black ghosting

25% white ghosting



At 80 cm:

0% black ghosting

20% white ghosting



But to get these scores you have to sit perfectly. If you want to show it to friends it takes you 5 minutes to explain them how to sit.





Are you sure you have so little ghosting, or are you being optimistic?





I mean, if you see 10% at both with shutterglasses, it should look the same without as in the attached picture. Is it the same?

My system:
3d Vision CD 1.07
2233RZ+Nvidia Glasses
8800GT 512MB
P965 chipset
Core 2 Duo E6600
1050x1680+2x 1680x1050 in clone mode (One of them via a USB graphics card)

#12
Posted 03/24/2009 11:44 AM   
[quote name='Freke1' post='521308' date='Mar 21 2009, 08:53 PM']This is the ghosting I get with some older 3D glasses (eDim) + CRT monitor (120Hz) + Nvidia 3D driver.
video: [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUOSRUBjIe4"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUOSRUBjIe4[/url]
Hopefully the new 3D Vision bundle is better allthough this is not bad?
The ghosting is the same all over the screen (equally good/bad).
test picture here: [url="http://www.3d.wep.dk/files/ghost_test_1680x1050.jps"]http://www.3d.wep.dk/files/ghost_test_1680x1050.jps[/url] if interested.[/quote]


Btw, I think it would be lots easier to read if you put the "percentage-bar" closer to the squares.
[quote name='Freke1' post='521308' date='Mar 21 2009, 08:53 PM']This is the ghosting I get with some older 3D glasses (eDim) + CRT monitor (120Hz) + Nvidia 3D driver.

video: " rel="nofollow" target = "_blank">

Hopefully the new 3D Vision bundle is better allthough this is not bad?

The ghosting is the same all over the screen (equally good/bad).

test picture here: http://www.3d.wep.dk/files/ghost_test_1680x1050.jps if interested.





Btw, I think it would be lots easier to read if you put the "percentage-bar" closer to the squares.

My system:
3d Vision CD 1.07
2233RZ+Nvidia Glasses
8800GT 512MB
P965 chipset
Core 2 Duo E6600
1050x1680+2x 1680x1050 in clone mode (One of them via a USB graphics card)

#13
Posted 03/24/2009 02:54 PM   
Here's a video I found about the 2233RZ. Altough there is very little contrast in the scene, so expect some more for high contrast games.
[url="http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/-Sa61Kma79U/"]http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/-Sa61Kma79U/[/url]
Here's a video I found about the 2233RZ. Altough there is very little contrast in the scene, so expect some more for high contrast games.

http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/-Sa61Kma79U/

My system:
3d Vision CD 1.07
2233RZ+Nvidia Glasses
8800GT 512MB
P965 chipset
Core 2 Duo E6600
1050x1680+2x 1680x1050 in clone mode (One of them via a USB graphics card)

#14
Posted 03/26/2009 10:24 AM   
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