THE BIOSHOCK 2 DEBACLE THREAD Documenting the effort to get some answers from 2k.
Hi folks, I am making this a new thread which mirrors that on the MTBS3d news forums. The purpose of this thread is aimed at drawing as much attention to "2k games" and their handling of 3d support in Bioshock 2. Hopefully along the way, this thread gets stickied /devil.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':devil:' />.I will constantly return and update and fill in, as the 2k support requests are FINALLY returned. If anyone knows of any other 3d hubs/forums where this thread could propegate into PM me. /yes.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':yes:' />
Foreword: Anyone who bought the game is aware that it does not work correctly. It is NOT 3DREADY like it says on the box I payed full retail for, months and months ago. There have been 2 updates in which 2k have said they will address the broken 3dvision support.... Many of you will have just gotten on with it, played it anyway, or simply forgot about it. Im doing none of that. I liased two support requests in the early days of bioshock 2's release. Each was answered simply with. "We are addressing this issue"..... Many months later, i'd had enough and wanted answers not just for me, but for the entire 3d gaming community. We are the premium customers. We sway the public. We spread the good words, and now, the bad too. This is my service to the 3d community.
It begins.
[size=5][size=5]Dear 2k.
About 3 months ago, i sent support questions to '2k' inquiring about 3d vision support. It was not working. A patch has just been released for bioshock 2 claiming that it fixes the 3d vision support, so that it works. it STILL DOES NOT WORK. The same problems are there, no change.
I bought this game BECAUSE it claimed to be 3d ready. I myself, and literally half of the nvidia 3d vision forums have been waiting and waiting, and have constantly been disappointed by 2k and their ability to make this game work. Like it said on the box. It has been many months now. And most of us have lost faith in 2k by now. But i still want to use the game I paid full retail for all those months ago. I last wrote in to 2k complaining of the same thing. And 2k support said "they are looking into it".
There are MANY people in the forums who would like an explanation. As BioShock 2 is a topic that invokes alot of bad vibes. I eagerly await your reply.
Thanks,
-Campbell (ps .jps screenshot attached for 3d diagnosis)"[/size][/size]
I was said to expect a reply in 72 hours. It has now been over a week with no reply from 2k.....So I write again.....
Hi folks, I am making this a new thread which mirrors that on the MTBS3d news forums. The purpose of this thread is aimed at drawing as much attention to "2k games" and their handling of 3d support in Bioshock 2. Hopefully along the way, this thread gets stickied /devil.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':devil:' />.I will constantly return and update and fill in, as the 2k support requests are FINALLY returned. If anyone knows of any other 3d hubs/forums where this thread could propegate into PM me. /yes.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':yes:' />
Foreword: Anyone who bought the game is aware that it does not work correctly. It is NOT 3DREADY like it says on the box I payed full retail for, months and months ago. There have been 2 updates in which 2k have said they will address the broken 3dvision support.... Many of you will have just gotten on with it, played it anyway, or simply forgot about it. Im doing none of that. I liased two support requests in the early days of bioshock 2's release. Each was answered simply with. "We are addressing this issue"..... Many months later, i'd had enough and wanted answers not just for me, but for the entire 3d gaming community. We are the premium customers. We sway the public. We spread the good words, and now, the bad too. This is my service to the 3d community.
It begins.
Dear 2k.
About 3 months ago, i sent support questions to '2k' inquiring about 3d vision support. It was not working. A patch has just been released for bioshock 2 claiming that it fixes the 3d vision support, so that it works. it STILL DOES NOT WORK. The same problems are there, no change.
I bought this game BECAUSE it claimed to be 3d ready. I myself, and literally half of the nvidia 3d vision forums have been waiting and waiting, and have constantly been disappointed by 2k and their ability to make this game work. Like it said on the box. It has been many months now. And most of us have lost faith in 2k by now. But i still want to use the game I paid full retail for all those months ago. I last wrote in to 2k complaining of the same thing. And 2k support said "they are looking into it".
There are MANY people in the forums who would like an explanation. As BioShock 2 is a topic that invokes alot of bad vibes. I eagerly await your reply.
Thanks,
-Campbell (ps .jps screenshot attached for 3d diagnosis)"
I was said to expect a reply in 72 hours. It has now been over a week with no reply from 2k.....So I write again.....
[size=4]Hello, this is a follow up message in regards to my original support request you have not answered.
I bought your game. It was advertised as 3d ready. This 3d HAS NOT WORKED SINCE RELEASE. The 3d vision community which 2k has betrayed, is fuming. YOU HAVE MY MONEY. AND MY GAME DOESNT WORK PROPERLY.
WHY IS IT THAT THERE IS MYSTERIOUSLY NO REFERENCE TO 3D VISION ANYWHERE ON YOU "FIND ANSWERS" PART OF 2K SUPPORT.
THIS IN ITSELF IS SUSPICIOUS.
Im sorry but I have written MANY messages to 2k support. I am now angry at what 2k has done. SO EXCUSE THE CAPS !!!
I want you to answer clearly, why the last patch which CLAIMED to fix , DOES NOTHING AT ALL.
2k has dicked its premium customers for months and months.
2k support HAS STILL NOT REPLIED TO MY MESSAGE FROM OVER A WEEK AGO.
WHAT IS GOING ON 2K ???
ITS GETTING PRETTY SUSPICIOUS !!!!
LOTS OF FALSE PROMISES AND LIES !!!
I still have my reciept of purchase from the store I payed for it. If I dont get answers I will do what it takes to return my copy and get back every penny i payed for it.
I am upset and annoyed at this.
EVERYONE IS UPSET AND ANNOYED.
SOME HAVE COMPLETELY STOPPED CARING BECAUSE IT IS SUCH A JOKE.
I would like to see the appearance of someone IN 2K, to visit the nvidia 3d vision forums, and kindly explain what the .... is going on. Or AT LEAST ACKLOWLEDGE THE ISSUE IN YOUR TECHNICAL SUPPORT FFS.
ITS RIDICULOUS.
I like your games.
I want to like bioshock 2.
I STILL anticipate your reply,
-Campbell
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Ok, after re-reading this, much of this reads as 'rant' lacking tact perhaps, but remember this has been going on for a long time. And I want to wrangle a 'human' answer out of 2k.
Hello, this is a follow up message in regards to my original support request you have not answered.
I bought your game. It was advertised as 3d ready. This 3d HAS NOT WORKED SINCE RELEASE. The 3d vision community which 2k has betrayed, is fuming. YOU HAVE MY MONEY. AND MY GAME DOESNT WORK PROPERLY.
WHY IS IT THAT THERE IS MYSTERIOUSLY NO REFERENCE TO 3D VISION ANYWHERE ON YOU "FIND ANSWERS" PART OF 2K SUPPORT.
THIS IN ITSELF IS SUSPICIOUS.
Im sorry but I have written MANY messages to 2k support. I am now angry at what 2k has done. SO EXCUSE THE CAPS !!!
I want you to answer clearly, why the last patch which CLAIMED to fix , DOES NOTHING AT ALL.
2k has dicked its premium customers for months and months.
2k support HAS STILL NOT REPLIED TO MY MESSAGE FROM OVER A WEEK AGO.
WHAT IS GOING ON 2K ???
ITS GETTING PRETTY SUSPICIOUS !!!!
LOTS OF FALSE PROMISES AND LIES !!!
I still have my reciept of purchase from the store I payed for it. If I dont get answers I will do what it takes to return my copy and get back every penny i payed for it.
I am upset and annoyed at this.
EVERYONE IS UPSET AND ANNOYED.
SOME HAVE COMPLETELY STOPPED CARING BECAUSE IT IS SUCH A JOKE.
I would like to see the appearance of someone IN 2K, to visit the nvidia 3d vision forums, and kindly explain what the .... is going on. Or AT LEAST ACKLOWLEDGE THE ISSUE IN YOUR TECHNICAL SUPPORT FFS.
ITS RIDICULOUS.
I like your games.
I want to like bioshock 2.
I STILL anticipate your reply,
-Campbell
Ok, after re-reading this, much of this reads as 'rant' lacking tact perhaps, but remember this has been going on for a long time. And I want to wrangle a 'human' answer out of 2k.
Im going to document this running support question and all your replies onto the 3dvision forums, and the MTBS3d forums for everyone in the world to see.
-Campbell"
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I am now probably a blacklisted 'problem' customer lol:devil:
Im going to document this running support question and all your replies onto the 3dvision forums, and the MTBS3d forums for everyone in the world to see.
-Campbell"
I am now probably a blacklisted 'problem' customer lol:devil:
I guess the problem is that this bioshock game is not true unreal engine, its ue2.5 plus some optical tuning and havok physics.
Recent unreal games look incredibly good in 3d unless hard limited to 2d (mass effect 2 ) . Along batman, alien breed IS 3d ready imho. Epic has full stereoscopic support now in UDK, the free version of UE 3.5 .
Also alien breed looks incredible and runs incredibly good. Forget about obsolete engines.
I guess the problem is that this bioshock game is not true unreal engine, its ue2.5 plus some optical tuning and havok physics.
Recent unreal games look incredibly good in 3d unless hard limited to 2d (mass effect 2 ) . Along batman, alien breed IS 3d ready imho. Epic has full stereoscopic support now in UDK, the free version of UE 3.5 .
Also alien breed looks incredible and runs incredibly good. Forget about obsolete engines.
[quote name='tritosine' post='1069526' date='Jun 7 2010, 02:12 PM']I guess the problem is that this bioshock game is not true unreal engine, its ue2.5 plus some optical tuning and havok physics.
Recent unreal games look incredibly good in 3d unless hard limited to 2d (mass effect 2 ) . Along batman, alien breed IS 3d ready imho. Epic has full stereoscopic support now in UDK, the free version of UE 3.5 .
Also alien breed looks incredible and runs incredibly good. Forget about obsolete engines.[/quote]
Both Bioshock and Bioshock 2 use UE3.0 + additional tweaks just like Unreal Tournament 3, Mirror's Edge, Mass Effect 1 and 2, and many other games.
The Unreal Engine 3 Stereo3D support has always been a love/hate affair because it looks good but not perfect. Most effects worked out of the box for all 3D drivers when the engine was first released : it was amazing but these damn dynamic shadows were and are always buggy, in all UE3 based games.
[quote name='tritosine' post='1069526' date='Jun 7 2010, 02:12 PM']I guess the problem is that this bioshock game is not true unreal engine, its ue2.5 plus some optical tuning and havok physics.
Recent unreal games look incredibly good in 3d unless hard limited to 2d (mass effect 2 ) . Along batman, alien breed IS 3d ready imho. Epic has full stereoscopic support now in UDK, the free version of UE 3.5 .
Also alien breed looks incredible and runs incredibly good. Forget about obsolete engines.
Both Bioshock and Bioshock 2 use UE3.0 + additional tweaks just like Unreal Tournament 3, Mirror's Edge, Mass Effect 1 and 2, and many other games.
The Unreal Engine 3 Stereo3D support has always been a love/hate affair because it looks good but not perfect. Most effects worked out of the box for all 3D drivers when the engine was first released : it was amazing but these damn dynamic shadows were and are always buggy, in all UE3 based games.
Passive 3D forever
110" DIY dual-projection system
2x Epson EH-TW3500 (1080p) + Linear Polarizers (SPAR)
XtremScreen Daylight 2.0
VNS Geobox501 signal converter
dynamic shadows works perfect in some UE3 games like Batman AA or Borderlands after the last patch. I blame f*cking lazy developers in Bioshock 2 case.
dynamic shadows works perfect in some UE3 games like Batman AA or Borderlands after the last patch. I blame f*cking lazy developers in Bioshock 2 case.
Foreword: Anyone who bought the game is aware that it does not work correctly. It is NOT 3DREADY like it says on the box I payed full retail for, months and months ago. There have been 2 updates in which 2k have said they will address the broken 3dvision support.... Many of you will have just gotten on with it, played it anyway, or simply forgot about it. Im doing none of that. I liased two support requests in the early days of bioshock 2's release. Each was answered simply with. "We are addressing this issue"..... Many months later, i'd had enough and wanted answers not just for me, but for the entire 3d gaming community. We are the premium customers. We sway the public. We spread the good words, and now, the bad too. This is my service to the 3d community.
It begins.
[size=5][size=5]Dear 2k.
About 3 months ago, i sent support questions to '2k' inquiring about 3d vision support. It was not working. A patch has just been released for bioshock 2 claiming that it fixes the 3d vision support, so that it works. it STILL DOES NOT WORK. The same problems are there, no change.
I bought this game BECAUSE it claimed to be 3d ready. I myself, and literally half of the nvidia 3d vision forums have been waiting and waiting, and have constantly been disappointed by 2k and their ability to make this game work. Like it said on the box. It has been many months now. And most of us have lost faith in 2k by now. But i still want to use the game I paid full retail for all those months ago. I last wrote in to 2k complaining of the same thing. And 2k support said "they are looking into it".
There are MANY people in the forums who would like an explanation. As BioShock 2 is a topic that invokes alot of bad vibes. I eagerly await your reply.
Thanks,
-Campbell (ps .jps screenshot attached for 3d diagnosis)"[/size][/size]
I was said to expect a reply in 72 hours. It has now been over a week with no reply from 2k.....So I write again.....
Foreword: Anyone who bought the game is aware that it does not work correctly. It is NOT 3DREADY like it says on the box I payed full retail for, months and months ago. There have been 2 updates in which 2k have said they will address the broken 3dvision support.... Many of you will have just gotten on with it, played it anyway, or simply forgot about it. Im doing none of that. I liased two support requests in the early days of bioshock 2's release. Each was answered simply with. "We are addressing this issue"..... Many months later, i'd had enough and wanted answers not just for me, but for the entire 3d gaming community. We are the premium customers. We sway the public. We spread the good words, and now, the bad too. This is my service to the 3d community.
It begins.
Dear 2k.
About 3 months ago, i sent support questions to '2k' inquiring about 3d vision support. It was not working. A patch has just been released for bioshock 2 claiming that it fixes the 3d vision support, so that it works. it STILL DOES NOT WORK. The same problems are there, no change.
I bought this game BECAUSE it claimed to be 3d ready. I myself, and literally half of the nvidia 3d vision forums have been waiting and waiting, and have constantly been disappointed by 2k and their ability to make this game work. Like it said on the box. It has been many months now. And most of us have lost faith in 2k by now. But i still want to use the game I paid full retail for all those months ago. I last wrote in to 2k complaining of the same thing. And 2k support said "they are looking into it".
There are MANY people in the forums who would like an explanation. As BioShock 2 is a topic that invokes alot of bad vibes. I eagerly await your reply.
Thanks,
-Campbell (ps .jps screenshot attached for 3d diagnosis)"
I was said to expect a reply in 72 hours. It has now been over a week with no reply from 2k.....So I write again.....
I bought your game. It was advertised as 3d ready. This 3d HAS NOT WORKED SINCE RELEASE. The 3d vision community which 2k has betrayed, is fuming. YOU HAVE MY MONEY. AND MY GAME DOESNT WORK PROPERLY.
WHY IS IT THAT THERE IS MYSTERIOUSLY NO REFERENCE TO 3D VISION ANYWHERE ON YOU "FIND ANSWERS" PART OF 2K SUPPORT.
THIS IN ITSELF IS SUSPICIOUS.
Im sorry but I have written MANY messages to 2k support. I am now angry at what 2k has done. SO EXCUSE THE CAPS !!!
I want you to answer clearly, why the last patch which CLAIMED to fix , DOES NOTHING AT ALL.
2k has dicked its premium customers for months and months.
2k support HAS STILL NOT REPLIED TO MY MESSAGE FROM OVER A WEEK AGO.
WHAT IS GOING ON 2K ???
ITS GETTING PRETTY SUSPICIOUS !!!!
LOTS OF FALSE PROMISES AND LIES !!!
I still have my reciept of purchase from the store I payed for it. If I dont get answers I will do what it takes to return my copy and get back every penny i payed for it.
I am upset and annoyed at this.
EVERYONE IS UPSET AND ANNOYED.
SOME HAVE COMPLETELY STOPPED CARING BECAUSE IT IS SUCH A JOKE.
I would like to see the appearance of someone IN 2K, to visit the nvidia 3d vision forums, and kindly explain what the .... is going on. Or AT LEAST ACKLOWLEDGE THE ISSUE IN YOUR TECHNICAL SUPPORT FFS.
ITS RIDICULOUS.
I like your games.
I want to like bioshock 2.
I STILL anticipate your reply,
-Campbell
[/size]
Ok, after re-reading this, much of this reads as 'rant' lacking tact perhaps, but remember this has been going on for a long time. And I want to wrangle a 'human' answer out of 2k.
I bought your game. It was advertised as 3d ready. This 3d HAS NOT WORKED SINCE RELEASE. The 3d vision community which 2k has betrayed, is fuming. YOU HAVE MY MONEY. AND MY GAME DOESNT WORK PROPERLY.
WHY IS IT THAT THERE IS MYSTERIOUSLY NO REFERENCE TO 3D VISION ANYWHERE ON YOU "FIND ANSWERS" PART OF 2K SUPPORT.
THIS IN ITSELF IS SUSPICIOUS.
Im sorry but I have written MANY messages to 2k support. I am now angry at what 2k has done. SO EXCUSE THE CAPS !!!
I want you to answer clearly, why the last patch which CLAIMED to fix , DOES NOTHING AT ALL.
2k has dicked its premium customers for months and months.
2k support HAS STILL NOT REPLIED TO MY MESSAGE FROM OVER A WEEK AGO.
WHAT IS GOING ON 2K ???
ITS GETTING PRETTY SUSPICIOUS !!!!
LOTS OF FALSE PROMISES AND LIES !!!
I still have my reciept of purchase from the store I payed for it. If I dont get answers I will do what it takes to return my copy and get back every penny i payed for it.
I am upset and annoyed at this.
EVERYONE IS UPSET AND ANNOYED.
SOME HAVE COMPLETELY STOPPED CARING BECAUSE IT IS SUCH A JOKE.
I would like to see the appearance of someone IN 2K, to visit the nvidia 3d vision forums, and kindly explain what the .... is going on. Or AT LEAST ACKLOWLEDGE THE ISSUE IN YOUR TECHNICAL SUPPORT FFS.
ITS RIDICULOUS.
I like your games.
I want to like bioshock 2.
I STILL anticipate your reply,
-Campbell
Ok, after re-reading this, much of this reads as 'rant' lacking tact perhaps, but remember this has been going on for a long time. And I want to wrangle a 'human' answer out of 2k.
Im going to document this running support question and all your replies onto the 3dvision forums, and the MTBS3d forums for everyone in the world to see.
-Campbell"
[/size]
I am now probably a blacklisted 'problem' customer lol:devil:
Im going to document this running support question and all your replies onto the 3dvision forums, and the MTBS3d forums for everyone in the world to see.
-Campbell"
I am now probably a blacklisted 'problem' customer lol:devil:
Recent unreal games look incredibly good in 3d unless hard limited to 2d (mass effect 2 ) . Along batman, alien breed IS 3d ready imho. Epic has full stereoscopic support now in UDK, the free version of UE 3.5 .
Also alien breed looks incredible and runs incredibly good. Forget about obsolete engines.
Recent unreal games look incredibly good in 3d unless hard limited to 2d (mass effect 2 ) . Along batman, alien breed IS 3d ready imho. Epic has full stereoscopic support now in UDK, the free version of UE 3.5 .
Also alien breed looks incredible and runs incredibly good. Forget about obsolete engines.
Recent unreal games look incredibly good in 3d unless hard limited to 2d (mass effect 2 ) . Along batman, alien breed IS 3d ready imho. Epic has full stereoscopic support now in UDK, the free version of UE 3.5 .
Also alien breed looks incredible and runs incredibly good. Forget about obsolete engines.[/quote]
Both Bioshock and Bioshock 2 use UE3.0 + additional tweaks just like Unreal Tournament 3, Mirror's Edge, Mass Effect 1 and 2, and many other games.
The Unreal Engine 3 Stereo3D support has always been a love/hate affair because it looks good but not perfect. Most effects worked out of the box for all 3D drivers when the engine was first released : it was amazing but these damn dynamic shadows were and are always buggy, in all UE3 based games.
Recent unreal games look incredibly good in 3d unless hard limited to 2d (mass effect 2 ) . Along batman, alien breed IS 3d ready imho. Epic has full stereoscopic support now in UDK, the free version of UE 3.5 .
Also alien breed looks incredible and runs incredibly good. Forget about obsolete engines.
Both Bioshock and Bioshock 2 use UE3.0 + additional tweaks just like Unreal Tournament 3, Mirror's Edge, Mass Effect 1 and 2, and many other games.
The Unreal Engine 3 Stereo3D support has always been a love/hate affair because it looks good but not perfect. Most effects worked out of the box for all 3D drivers when the engine was first released : it was amazing but these damn dynamic shadows were and are always buggy, in all UE3 based games.
Passive 3D forever
110" DIY dual-projection system
2x Epson EH-TW3500 (1080p) + Linear Polarizers (SPAR)
XtremScreen Daylight 2.0
VNS Geobox501 signal converter
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