Is the ROG Swift PG278Q the last great 3D monitor?
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You should consider a monitor that has a Display Port input. That way, you can have your HDMI/DL DVI GPU outputs for other displays.
You should consider a monitor that has a Display Port input.

That way, you can have your HDMI/DL DVI GPU outputs for other displays.

#16
Posted 08/01/2016 01:56 AM   
Thanks Dman. That narrows down to just the benq 2720z.
Thanks Dman. That narrows down to just the benq 2720z.

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i7 7700k 5GHz, RTX 2080, win10 pro
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#17
Posted 08/01/2016 02:22 AM   
Rog swift is pretty good, I think saying the "Last great 3d monitor" is a bit of a stretch though. - It has significant crosstalk issues in some games, which can be slightly mitigated with correct calibration - Gsync and 3dvision conflicts, and Gsync annoyingly likes to auto activate itself. Which can create headaches requiring Driver reinstalls. (still looking into this). Its really annoying to constantly be asked if I want to turn on Gsync. No I do not. I want to turn on 3dvision. >< - 1440p is a bitch to drive at high settings in 3dvision. That said I will probably stick with this monitor for the long run and grab another couple for 3d surround in I don't know 20 years =P
Rog swift is pretty good, I think saying the "Last great 3d monitor" is a bit of a stretch though.

- It has significant crosstalk issues in some games, which can be slightly mitigated with correct calibration
- Gsync and 3dvision conflicts, and Gsync annoyingly likes to auto activate itself. Which can create headaches requiring Driver reinstalls. (still looking into this). Its really annoying to constantly be asked if I want to turn on Gsync. No I do not. I want to turn on 3dvision. ><
- 1440p is a bitch to drive at high settings in 3dvision.

That said I will probably stick with this monitor for the long run and grab another couple for 3d surround in I don't know 20 years =P

i7-4790K CPU 4.8Ghz stable overclock.
16 GB RAM Corsair
EVGA 1080TI SLI
Samsung SSD 840Pro
ASUS Z97-WS
3D Surround ASUS Rog Swift PG278Q(R), 2x PG278Q (yes it works)
Obutto R3volution.
Windows 10 pro 64x (Windows 7 Dual boot)

#18
Posted 08/01/2016 03:13 AM   
Ignore
Ignore

i7-4790K CPU 4.8Ghz stable overclock.
16 GB RAM Corsair
EVGA 1080TI SLI
Samsung SSD 840Pro
ASUS Z97-WS
3D Surround ASUS Rog Swift PG278Q(R), 2x PG278Q (yes it works)
Obutto R3volution.
Windows 10 pro 64x (Windows 7 Dual boot)

#19
Posted 08/01/2016 03:33 AM   
[quote="necropants"]Rog swift is pretty good, I think saying the "Last great 3d monitor" is a bit of a stretch though. - It has significant crosstalk issues in some games, which can be slightly mitigated with correct calibration[/quote]Rabbit? [url]https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/828986/3d-vision/which-is-the-best-3d-monitor-/post/4518896/#4518896[/url] .
necropants said:Rog swift is pretty good, I think saying the "Last great 3d monitor" is a bit of a stretch though.

- It has significant crosstalk issues in some games, which can be slightly mitigated with correct calibration
Rabbit?
https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/828986/3d-vision/which-is-the-best-3d-monitor-/post/4518896/#4518896



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1440p in 3D is too demanding....
1440p in 3D is too demanding....

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#21
Posted 08/01/2016 01:24 PM   
I got used to crosstalk in the Dell S2716DG. After warming up and using contrast 57 it looks at least decent in that regard (depending on the game. The Witcher 3 looks almost perfect most of the time) and very high res despite the vertical scanlines problem. Real 8 bit colors is great too. What I hate is not having control over the strobe length. Apart from a 3D fan, I'm nuts about motion blur. And it's too high for my taste in this case (although I always choose 3D instead of ULMB). Ideally, I want under 1ms of strobe length (Lightboost in non G-Sync monitors can reach 1.4ms), and I can notice differences down to 0.33ms or so at 1080p (with testufo at 3000px/s).The Dell must be using the equivalent of Lightboost at 100%, which is 2.4ms. I would love to hack ULMB into 3D Vision 2 :p.
I got used to crosstalk in the Dell S2716DG. After warming up and using contrast 57 it looks at least decent in that regard (depending on the game. The Witcher 3 looks almost perfect most of the time) and very high res despite the vertical scanlines problem. Real 8 bit colors is great too.

What I hate is not having control over the strobe length. Apart from a 3D fan, I'm nuts about motion blur. And it's too high for my taste in this case (although I always choose 3D instead of ULMB). Ideally, I want under 1ms of strobe length (Lightboost in non G-Sync monitors can reach 1.4ms), and I can notice differences down to 0.33ms or so at 1080p (with testufo at 3000px/s).The Dell must be using the equivalent of Lightboost at 100%, which is 2.4ms.

I would love to hack ULMB into 3D Vision 2 :p.

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Motherboard: Gigabyte Aorus GA-Z270X-Gaming 5
RAM: GSKILL Ripjaws Z 16GB 3866MHz CL18
GPU: Gainward Phoenix 1080 GLH
Monitor: Asus PG278QR
Speakers: Logitech Z506
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#22
Posted 08/01/2016 03:14 PM   
[quote="clammy"]1440p in 3D is too demanding....[/quote] I can run most games fine at max detail and as long as SLI works decently I usually get 60fps. But yeah you need a pretty heavy duty machine.
clammy said:1440p in 3D is too demanding....


I can run most games fine at max detail and as long as SLI works decently I usually get 60fps.
But yeah you need a pretty heavy duty machine.

i7-4790K CPU 4.8Ghz stable overclock.
16 GB RAM Corsair
EVGA 1080TI SLI
Samsung SSD 840Pro
ASUS Z97-WS
3D Surround ASUS Rog Swift PG278Q(R), 2x PG278Q (yes it works)
Obutto R3volution.
Windows 10 pro 64x (Windows 7 Dual boot)

#23
Posted 08/01/2016 03:30 PM   
If someone could post pictures of the Rabbit it will be great. Here to clouded some pictures for free, with no login necessary: https://postimg.org/ I don't get why nobody takes 3min to do it... Seriously 3min guys ! Here my topic about it: https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/828986/3d-vision/which-is-the-best-3d-monitor-/1/ .
If someone could post pictures of the Rabbit it will be great.

Here to clouded some pictures for free, with no login necessary:

https://postimg.org/


I don't get why nobody takes 3min to do it... Seriously 3min guys !


Here my topic about it:

https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/828986/3d-vision/which-is-the-best-3d-monitor-/1/




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[quote="Dugom"]If someone could post pictures of the Rabbit it will be great.[/quote] I'm not sure under what lighting conditions I have to take the picture (phone camera taking a picture through one of the glasses, I guess). It makes the picture vary a lot with the dark tests, even if my eyes see the rabbit the same way. What I can say is that my Dell S2716DG does poorly in general. Maybe decent in the white tests. Not that the XL2411Z did great either. These tests are hard on the response times :p.
Dugom said:If someone could post pictures of the Rabbit it will be great.


I'm not sure under what lighting conditions I have to take the picture (phone camera taking a picture through one of the glasses, I guess). It makes the picture vary a lot with the dark tests, even if my eyes see the rabbit the same way.

What I can say is that my Dell S2716DG does poorly in general. Maybe decent in the white tests. Not that the XL2411Z did great either. These tests are hard on the response times :p.

CPU: Intel Core i7 7700K @ 4.9GHz
Motherboard: Gigabyte Aorus GA-Z270X-Gaming 5
RAM: GSKILL Ripjaws Z 16GB 3866MHz CL18
GPU: Gainward Phoenix 1080 GLH
Monitor: Asus PG278QR
Speakers: Logitech Z506
Donations account: masterotakusuko@gmail.com

#25
Posted 08/03/2016 09:38 PM   
Some instructions are noted below the YT video. (Description) Any lighting condition, but in the dark will be better, this will avoid light reflection. But you can try to set you screen to make the rabbit disappear, the rabbit test is perfect to find the better 3D your screen can offer. Settings are generally separated between 2D and 3D, this way the 3D settings won't mess you 2D settings. You can try to modify: -The backlight -The brightness -The contrast -The gamma -The overdrive: Dell S2716DG [img]http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/images/dell_s2716dg/P1120583.JPG[/img] BenQ XL2411Z: [img]http://www.erenumerique.fr/articles/9126/_DSF3320.JPG[/img] -------------------- Here the results of mine (ACER GD245HQ): Brightness: 100 Contrast: 40 White / Grey / Black / Full Black [url=http://postimg.org/image/aw649krsp/][img]http://s4.postimg.org/aw649krsp/de929720d106169dc310371186a7fa87.jpg[/img][/url][url=http://postimg.org/image/glmctvxyx/][img]http://s4.postimg.org/glmctvxyx/934e746cbcac625450d68b7d21d22e55.jpg[/img][/url] [url=http://postimg.org/image/3qed74ipl/][img]http://s4.postimg.org/3qed74ipl/c68c1f9a8e7f006b1ec7e614c61bdeaa.jpg[/img][/url][url=http://postimg.org/image/m78rxxynt/][img]http://s4.postimg.org/m78rxxynt/37972eaee0b4b9b5c7e51debcbb8a497.jpg[/img][/url] On white there is full ghost on top and bottom of the screen. On Grey you can see color ghost on the bottom, reverse ghost in the center and full ghost on th top. Ghost on blacks are quite perfect thouth (Left and right ghost come from the glasses). Reverse ghosting come frome exeed of screen overdrive. ---------------------- Here the result of the ASUS VG248QE on 3DVision 2 glasses: Brightness: 100 Contrast: 30 LightBoost: 50 White / Grey / Black / Full Black [url=http://postimg.org/image/gv385fmpb/][img]http://s3.postimg.org/gv385fmpb/da730f702aa47ec88cba22f1ab679cf3.jpg[/img][/url][url=http://postimg.org/image/lwam6su5r/][img]http://s3.postimg.org/lwam6su5r/75afc7fd3a45ee180c7f291940d2ece7.jpg[/img][/url] [url=http://postimg.org/image/li9a77a27/][img]http://s3.postimg.org/li9a77a27/b048bfccb401f69b2c63e5fe62999c78.jpg[/img][/url][url=http://postimg.org/image/lsgsqjoof/][img]http://s3.postimg.org/lsgsqjoof/5e3edbf6754acac0721b6ccc0290d553.jpg[/img][/url] The black stripes does not appear, it comes from active LED backligthing (probably the LightBoost). On white there is full ghost on the very bottom and reverse ghost on very top of the screen. On Grey you can see reverse ghost. Ghost on blacks are quite present, even in full black... ---------------------- Results of my Samsung ES7000 (2012): (One of the best active 3DTV, believe it or not...) Backlight: 2 Contrast: 100 Brightness: 45 Gamma: +3 [url=https://postimg.org/image/43er6tlkr/][img]https://s25.postimg.org/43er6tlkr/image.jpg[/img][/url][url=https://postimg.org/image/ca6qyebnf/][img]https://s25.postimg.org/ca6qyebnf/image.jpg[/img][/url] [url=https://postimg.org/image/5snuew1a3/][img]https://s25.postimg.org/5snuew1a3/image.jpg[/img][/url][url=https://postimg.org/image/ywc2b4pdn/][img]https://s25.postimg.org/ywc2b4pdn/image.jpg[/img][/url]
Some instructions are noted below the YT video. (Description)


Any lighting condition, but in the dark will be better, this will avoid light reflection.

But you can try to set you screen to make the rabbit disappear, the rabbit test is perfect to find the better 3D your screen can offer.

Settings are generally separated between 2D and 3D, this way the 3D settings won't mess you 2D settings.

You can try to modify:
-The backlight
-The brightness
-The contrast
-The gamma
-The overdrive:

Dell S2716DG
Image

BenQ XL2411Z:
Image


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Here the results of mine (ACER GD245HQ):
Brightness: 100
Contrast: 40

White / Grey / Black / Full Black
ImageImage
ImageImage

On white there is full ghost on top and bottom of the screen. On Grey you can see color ghost on the bottom, reverse ghost in the center and full ghost on th top. Ghost on blacks are quite perfect thouth (Left and right ghost come from the glasses).

Reverse ghosting come frome exeed of screen overdrive.


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Here the result of the ASUS VG248QE on 3DVision 2 glasses:
Brightness: 100
Contrast: 30
LightBoost: 50

White / Grey / Black / Full Black
ImageImage
ImageImage

The black stripes does not appear, it comes from active LED backligthing (probably the LightBoost).

On white there is full ghost on the very bottom and reverse ghost on very top of the screen. On Grey you can see reverse ghost. Ghost on blacks are quite present, even in full black...


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Results of my Samsung ES7000 (2012): (One of the best active 3DTV, believe it or not...)

Backlight: 2
Contrast: 100
Brightness: 45
Gamma: +3

ImageImage
ImageImage
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