So far I have seen Cloudy with a chance of meatballs, Grand canyon adventure, and ice age 3 and none of these movies made me go "wow." There isn't much depth as far as I can tell and there is no pop-out in these movies. At most- there appears to be a slight depth to the picture but thats nothing to be wowed about. I am using a acer h5360 projected onto a white screen that spans 115 inches diagonally. I watch in the dark. I would like others opinions on 3d movies.
So far I have seen Cloudy with a chance of meatballs, Grand canyon adventure, and ice age 3 and none of these movies made me go "wow." There isn't much depth as far as I can tell and there is no pop-out in these movies. At most- there appears to be a slight depth to the picture but thats nothing to be wowed about. I am using a acer h5360 projected onto a white screen that spans 115 inches diagonally. I watch in the dark. I would like others opinions on 3d movies.
Remember that moviemakers impossibly can use the same high separation as gamers who're used to 3d does. I have yet to see any full 3d-movies but the trailers i've dl'd looks good so far. Conversions are a nogo for me though. In my opinion popout effects shouldn't be used too often to avoid the usual 3d "cheezyness" of the 80's...
3D-gaming will always have the advantage of a better experience since the stereoparameters can be adjusted. Movies have to be made with a fixed separation from start. Too much and new viewers will puke. Another option should be rendering a movie using a 3d-engine where you can adjust the stereoparameters. We're far from there, at least yet though.
Remember that moviemakers impossibly can use the same high separation as gamers who're used to 3d does. I have yet to see any full 3d-movies but the trailers i've dl'd looks good so far. Conversions are a nogo for me though. In my opinion popout effects shouldn't be used too often to avoid the usual 3d "cheezyness" of the 80's...
3D-gaming will always have the advantage of a better experience since the stereoparameters can be adjusted. Movies have to be made with a fixed separation from start. Too much and new viewers will puke. Another option should be rendering a movie using a 3d-engine where you can adjust the stereoparameters. We're far from there, at least yet though.
I have Cloudy and it has some good pop out, the depth seems pretty dramatic. I may have my depth setting cranked up a little though. So much so after watching for a while and going back to 2D HD, the screen seems flat and lifeless for 30min to an hour before it seems normal again.
I have Cloudy and it has some good pop out, the depth seems pretty dramatic. I may have my depth setting cranked up a little though. So much so after watching for a while and going back to 2D HD, the screen seems flat and lifeless for 30min to an hour before it seems normal again.
Have in mind that Blu-ray 3D content is designed for watching on 3D HDTVs and they are still far from 115 inches in size, also using 720p means that the image gets compressed, so it is to be expected that the experience from Blu-ray 3D movie will differ when watching on 22-24" LCD monitor, 40-50" 3D HDTV or 100" inch screen from projector...
Have in mind that Blu-ray 3D content is designed for watching on 3D HDTVs and they are still far from 115 inches in size, also using 720p means that the image gets compressed, so it is to be expected that the experience from Blu-ray 3D movie will differ when watching on 22-24" LCD monitor, 40-50" 3D HDTV or 100" inch screen from projector...
[quote name='JOHNnDENVER' post='1098870' date='Aug 4 2010, 02:35 PM']I have Cloudy and it has some good pop out, the depth seems pretty dramatic. I may have my depth setting cranked up a little though. So much so after watching for a while and going back to 2D HD, the screen seems flat and lifeless for 30min to an hour before it seems normal again.[/quote]
[quote name='JOHNnDENVER' post='1098870' date='Aug 4 2010, 02:35 PM']I have Cloudy and it has some good pop out, the depth seems pretty dramatic. I may have my depth setting cranked up a little though. So much so after watching for a while and going back to 2D HD, the screen seems flat and lifeless for 30min to an hour before it seems normal again.
[quote name='Azure247' post='1098899' date='Aug 4 2010, 04:26 PM']Name the scene where there was popout?[/quote]
cloudy with a chance of meatballs has lots of pop-out !! i'm also using a projector to watch 3d blu rays..
the scene at the beginning where he's running away in the rain.... the rain literally falls right into the
room...
the rocket before sardine land get's destroyed, comes right out of the screen at one point.. the people
running away from the destruction also appear to pop out of the screen...
lol could go on and on.. there's actually quite alot of pop out, while subtle it's there..
back to topic: i'm pretty impressed with 3d blu rays so far, can't wait for more..
[quote name='Bloody' post='1098873' date='Aug 4 2010, 03:39 PM']so it is to be expected that the experience from Blu-ray 3D movie will differ when watching on 22-24" LCD monitor, 40-50" 3D HDTV or 100" inch screen from projector...[/quote]
Isn't this why you specify your screen size in PowerDVD Mark II 3D settings?
[quote name='Bloody' post='1098873' date='Aug 4 2010, 03:39 PM']so it is to be expected that the experience from Blu-ray 3D movie will differ when watching on 22-24" LCD monitor, 40-50" 3D HDTV or 100" inch screen from projector...
Isn't this why you specify your screen size in PowerDVD Mark II 3D settings?
That setting doesn't change any stereodepth in the actual movie which is fixed. At most it might change the horisontal parallax a little. Maybe that setting has to do with the 2d-3d conversion.
That setting doesn't change any stereodepth in the actual movie which is fixed. At most it might change the horisontal parallax a little. Maybe that setting has to do with the 2d-3d conversion.
I have Cloudy, Coraline, and Ice Age 3 and both Power DVD 10 Mark II and Arcsoft Total Media with Sim 3D and am sadly not very impressed with the 3D Blu-ray experience. I've downloaded many 3D movie traillers where the 3D looks awesome using the Nvidia 3D video player. Expected the same from Blu-ray 3D. If there was a way to adjust depth and convergence during playback, the experience would be much better. Don't the new 3D TV sets allow you to do this? If so, seems like Cyberlink and ArcSoft could provide a mechanism for it in their software players.
I have Cloudy, Coraline, and Ice Age 3 and both Power DVD 10 Mark II and Arcsoft Total Media with Sim 3D and am sadly not very impressed with the 3D Blu-ray experience. I've downloaded many 3D movie traillers where the 3D looks awesome using the Nvidia 3D video player. Expected the same from Blu-ray 3D. If there was a way to adjust depth and convergence during playback, the experience would be much better. Don't the new 3D TV sets allow you to do this? If so, seems like Cyberlink and ArcSoft could provide a mechanism for it in their software players.
[quote name='Likay' post='1098972' date='Aug 4 2010, 06:59 PM']That setting doesn't change any stereodepth in the actual movie which is fixed. At most it might change the horisontal parallax a little. Maybe that setting has to do with the 2d-3d conversion.[/quote]
My bad, I haven't got a BluRay drive yet /verymad.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':verymad:' />
[quote name='Likay' post='1098972' date='Aug 4 2010, 06:59 PM']That setting doesn't change any stereodepth in the actual movie which is fixed. At most it might change the horisontal parallax a little. Maybe that setting has to do with the 2d-3d conversion.
My bad, I haven't got a BluRay drive yet /verymad.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':verymad:' />
Do not confuse the depth control you have in games with movies shot in 3D, in games everything is dynamically rendered and with the movies is has already been shot with specific audience and screen size in mind. For movies you have a bit of control in adjusting the parallax by sacrificing some of the horizontal resolution, but that can help just a bit...
As I've already mentioned most Blu-ray 3D movies should be made for watching on 3D TVs and thus the screen size they are probably made for is around 40-50" which is the mainstream, so on a screen which is half the size the volume perception may not be so convincing and thus not so impressive. On a screen size with double that like on a projector normally you could observe the opposite effect of the volume perception being too strong, but only if the native resolution of the projector was Full HD and since we don't have these yet, on a 720p projector the image gets compressed which decreases the separation and thus reduces the WOW effect you would normally get.
However things vary from one Blu-ray 3D movie to another, just because the movie itself might be made for big cinema screens and then just ported on the Blu-ray without additional optimizations to make it work right on the smaller screens at home. Other possibility is to actually have too big separation which might be Ok for people used to play games in stereo 3D with high depth settings (you can adjust to that), but that is not always the best choice for movies and this can again handle differently with different screen sizes. So we are probably going to keep getting best results for Blu-ray 3D movies when played back on 3D HDTV at least for now, and for the PC the stereo 3D gaming remains the primary choice.
Do not confuse the depth control you have in games with movies shot in 3D, in games everything is dynamically rendered and with the movies is has already been shot with specific audience and screen size in mind. For movies you have a bit of control in adjusting the parallax by sacrificing some of the horizontal resolution, but that can help just a bit...
As I've already mentioned most Blu-ray 3D movies should be made for watching on 3D TVs and thus the screen size they are probably made for is around 40-50" which is the mainstream, so on a screen which is half the size the volume perception may not be so convincing and thus not so impressive. On a screen size with double that like on a projector normally you could observe the opposite effect of the volume perception being too strong, but only if the native resolution of the projector was Full HD and since we don't have these yet, on a 720p projector the image gets compressed which decreases the separation and thus reduces the WOW effect you would normally get.
However things vary from one Blu-ray 3D movie to another, just because the movie itself might be made for big cinema screens and then just ported on the Blu-ray without additional optimizations to make it work right on the smaller screens at home. Other possibility is to actually have too big separation which might be Ok for people used to play games in stereo 3D with high depth settings (you can adjust to that), but that is not always the best choice for movies and this can again handle differently with different screen sizes. So we are probably going to keep getting best results for Blu-ray 3D movies when played back on 3D HDTV at least for now, and for the PC the stereo 3D gaming remains the primary choice.
i don't know what people is expecting from blu-ray 3D. I have all this movies ripped in mkv 1080p (Cloudy, Monsters vs. Aliens, Gran Canyon Adventure, Coraline, How to train your Dragon...) and all of them have great pop out and depth (using an Acer GD245HQ)
i don't know what people is expecting from blu-ray 3D. I have all this movies ripped in mkv 1080p (Cloudy, Monsters vs. Aliens, Gran Canyon Adventure, Coraline, How to train your Dragon...) and all of them have great pop out and depth (using an Acer GD245HQ)
The entire more of Ice Age has pop out and depth. Grand Canyon looks awesome in 3D as well. It's probably your projector which is 720P and not very good for 3D. On a 3D TV they look amazing. Everyone that I have shown is wow'd by them.
The entire more of Ice Age has pop out and depth. Grand Canyon looks awesome in 3D as well. It's probably your projector which is 720P and not very good for 3D. On a 3D TV they look amazing. Everyone that I have shown is wow'd by them.
Uhhh. I have a 720p and the effect is very dramatic.
The first good popout in the movie is the scene where Baby Brent points at the boy scientist in the classroom laughing at the flawed spary on socks design.
Keep in mind the movies were shot with very large theater screens in mind.
Uhhh. I have a 720p and the effect is very dramatic.
The first good popout in the movie is the scene where Baby Brent points at the boy scientist in the classroom laughing at the flawed spary on socks design.
Keep in mind the movies were shot with very large theater screens in mind.
3D-gaming will always have the advantage of a better experience since the stereoparameters can be adjusted. Movies have to be made with a fixed separation from start. Too much and new viewers will puke. Another option should be rendering a movie using a 3d-engine where you can adjust the stereoparameters. We're far from there, at least yet though.
3D-gaming will always have the advantage of a better experience since the stereoparameters can be adjusted. Movies have to be made with a fixed separation from start. Too much and new viewers will puke. Another option should be rendering a movie using a 3d-engine where you can adjust the stereoparameters. We're far from there, at least yet though.
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Name the scene where there was popout?
Name the scene where there was popout?
cloudy with a chance of meatballs has lots of pop-out !! i'm also using a projector to watch 3d blu rays..
the scene at the beginning where he's running away in the rain.... the rain literally falls right into the
room...
the rocket before sardine land get's destroyed, comes right out of the screen at one point.. the people
running away from the destruction also appear to pop out of the screen...
lol could go on and on.. there's actually quite alot of pop out, while subtle it's there..
back to topic: i'm pretty impressed with 3d blu rays so far, can't wait for more..
cloudy with a chance of meatballs has lots of pop-out !! i'm also using a projector to watch 3d blu rays..
the scene at the beginning where he's running away in the rain.... the rain literally falls right into the
room...
the rocket before sardine land get's destroyed, comes right out of the screen at one point.. the people
running away from the destruction also appear to pop out of the screen...
lol could go on and on.. there's actually quite alot of pop out, while subtle it's there..
back to topic: i'm pretty impressed with 3d blu rays so far, can't wait for more..
Isn't this why you specify your screen size in PowerDVD Mark II 3D settings?
Isn't this why you specify your screen size in PowerDVD Mark II 3D settings?
Mb: Asus P5W DH Deluxe
Cpu: C2D E6600
Gb: Nvidia 7900GT + 8800GTX
3D:100" passive projector polarized setup + 22" IZ3D
Stereodrivers: Iz3d & Tridef ignition and nvidia old school.
My bad, I haven't got a BluRay drive yet
My bad, I haven't got a BluRay drive yet
As I've already mentioned most Blu-ray 3D movies should be made for watching on 3D TVs and thus the screen size they are probably made for is around 40-50" which is the mainstream, so on a screen which is half the size the volume perception may not be so convincing and thus not so impressive. On a screen size with double that like on a projector normally you could observe the opposite effect of the volume perception being too strong, but only if the native resolution of the projector was Full HD and since we don't have these yet, on a 720p projector the image gets compressed which decreases the separation and thus reduces the WOW effect you would normally get.
However things vary from one Blu-ray 3D movie to another, just because the movie itself might be made for big cinema screens and then just ported on the Blu-ray without additional optimizations to make it work right on the smaller screens at home. Other possibility is to actually have too big separation which might be Ok for people used to play games in stereo 3D with high depth settings (you can adjust to that), but that is not always the best choice for movies and this can again handle differently with different screen sizes. So we are probably going to keep getting best results for Blu-ray 3D movies when played back on 3D HDTV at least for now, and for the PC the stereo 3D gaming remains the primary choice.
As I've already mentioned most Blu-ray 3D movies should be made for watching on 3D TVs and thus the screen size they are probably made for is around 40-50" which is the mainstream, so on a screen which is half the size the volume perception may not be so convincing and thus not so impressive. On a screen size with double that like on a projector normally you could observe the opposite effect of the volume perception being too strong, but only if the native resolution of the projector was Full HD and since we don't have these yet, on a 720p projector the image gets compressed which decreases the separation and thus reduces the WOW effect you would normally get.
However things vary from one Blu-ray 3D movie to another, just because the movie itself might be made for big cinema screens and then just ported on the Blu-ray without additional optimizations to make it work right on the smaller screens at home. Other possibility is to actually have too big separation which might be Ok for people used to play games in stereo 3D with high depth settings (you can adjust to that), but that is not always the best choice for movies and this can again handle differently with different screen sizes. So we are probably going to keep getting best results for Blu-ray 3D movies when played back on 3D HDTV at least for now, and for the PC the stereo 3D gaming remains the primary choice.
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The first good popout in the movie is the scene where Baby Brent points at the boy scientist in the classroom laughing at the flawed spary on socks design.
Keep in mind the movies were shot with very large theater screens in mind.
The first good popout in the movie is the scene where Baby Brent points at the boy scientist in the classroom laughing at the flawed spary on socks design.
Keep in mind the movies were shot with very large theater screens in mind.