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Disabling is not enough - it needs to be physically disconnected.

Power off PC - Disconnect second monitor - Power on PC - it should now work. It does for me anyway...
Disabling is not enough - it needs to be physically disconnected.



Power off PC - Disconnect second monitor - Power on PC - it should now work. It does for me anyway...

#31
Posted 11/17/2011 02:34 AM   
Hi there, I'm trying to download this driver but I can't use of it .. At the Nvidia control panel doesn't show the "Stereoscopic 3D"... Can anyone help me pls ?

My laptop model is Asus vx7sx , windows 7, i7, 64bit
The graphic card is NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 560M
Besides that.. is it just 120Hz can support 3D ? how about 60 Hz ? Can it support ??

Hope some one can help ... /unsure.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':unsure:' /> Thanksss.....
Hi there, I'm trying to download this driver but I can't use of it .. At the Nvidia control panel doesn't show the "Stereoscopic 3D"... Can anyone help me pls ?



My laptop model is Asus vx7sx , windows 7, i7, 64bit

The graphic card is NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 560M

Besides that.. is it just 120Hz can support 3D ? how about 60 Hz ? Can it support ??



Hope some one can help ... /unsure.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':unsure:' /> Thanksss.....

#32
Posted 11/17/2011 09:45 AM   
[quote name='sdumas' date='17 November 2011 - 02:34 AM' timestamp='1321497279' post='1327977']
Disabling is not enough - it needs to be physically disconnected.

Power off PC - Disconnect second monitor - Power on PC - it should now work. It does for me anyway...
[/quote]

This seems to be a real problem for quite a few people. I also have to completely disconnect my second monitor to use 3D on the ASUS VG278H.
[quote name='sdumas' date='17 November 2011 - 02:34 AM' timestamp='1321497279' post='1327977']

Disabling is not enough - it needs to be physically disconnected.



Power off PC - Disconnect second monitor - Power on PC - it should now work. It does for me anyway...





This seems to be a real problem for quite a few people. I also have to completely disconnect my second monitor to use 3D on the ASUS VG278H.

#33
Posted 11/17/2011 11:10 AM   
Hi

I am going to investigate the multi-mon issues with the ASUS 3D monitor and setup.
Hi



I am going to investigate the multi-mon issues with the ASUS 3D monitor and setup.

#34
Posted 11/17/2011 06:04 PM   
hi

We tried 285.62 and 285.79 and cannot repro completing the wizard with an ASUS 3D monitor and second display.

If anyone who has this please provide the following details
- Driver
- OS
- GPUs
- List out exactly which monitors you are using
- Is the 3D monitor assigned as the primary monitor.
hi



We tried 285.62 and 285.79 and cannot repro completing the wizard with an ASUS 3D monitor and second display.



If anyone who has this please provide the following details

- Driver

- OS

- GPUs

- List out exactly which monitors you are using

- Is the 3D monitor assigned as the primary monitor.

#35
Posted 11/17/2011 09:32 PM   
[quote name='andrewf@nvidia' date='17 November 2011 - 03:32 PM' timestamp='1321565521' post='1328459']
hi

We tried 285.62 and 285.79 and cannot repro completing the wizard with an ASUS 3D monitor and second display.

If anyone who has this please provide the following details
- Driver
- OS
- GPUs
- List out exactly which monitors you are using
- Is the 3D monitor assigned as the primary monitor.
[/quote]

I tried physically disconnecting my second monitor and rebooting, still doesn't work.

285.79
Windows 7 64 SP1
EVGA GTX 580
Primary (and 3D) monitor: Acer GD245HQ
Secondary monitor: Acer AL2216W
[quote name='andrewf@nvidia' date='17 November 2011 - 03:32 PM' timestamp='1321565521' post='1328459']

hi



We tried 285.62 and 285.79 and cannot repro completing the wizard with an ASUS 3D monitor and second display.



If anyone who has this please provide the following details

- Driver

- OS

- GPUs

- List out exactly which monitors you are using

- Is the 3D monitor assigned as the primary monitor.





I tried physically disconnecting my second monitor and rebooting, still doesn't work.



285.79

Windows 7 64 SP1

EVGA GTX 580

Primary (and 3D) monitor: Acer GD245HQ

Secondary monitor: Acer AL2216W

#36
Posted 11/17/2011 10:27 PM   
[quote name='andrewf@nvidia' date='17 November 2011 - 09:32 PM' timestamp='1321565521' post='1328459']
hi

We tried 285.62 and 285.79 and cannot repro completing the wizard with an ASUS 3D monitor and second display.

If anyone who has this please provide the following details
- Driver
- OS
- GPUs
- List out exactly which monitors you are using
- Is the 3D monitor assigned as the primary monitor.
[/quote]

285.62
Win 7 64
2 Gainward 580gtx in SLI
Primary monitor: Asus VG278H
Second monitor: Hazro HZ27WC

3D on the ASUS only works if I unplug the Hazro. If the Hazro is plugged in I get a message which states that the monitor is not running in 32bit colour if I try to run the 3D test. Both monitors are set to 32bit colour. If I run a game like Skyrim it looks 3D on the monitor but the glasses and emmiter don't activate.
[quote name='andrewf@nvidia' date='17 November 2011 - 09:32 PM' timestamp='1321565521' post='1328459']

hi



We tried 285.62 and 285.79 and cannot repro completing the wizard with an ASUS 3D monitor and second display.



If anyone who has this please provide the following details

- Driver

- OS

- GPUs

- List out exactly which monitors you are using

- Is the 3D monitor assigned as the primary monitor.





285.62

Win 7 64

2 Gainward 580gtx in SLI

Primary monitor: Asus VG278H

Second monitor: Hazro HZ27WC



3D on the ASUS only works if I unplug the Hazro. If the Hazro is plugged in I get a message which states that the monitor is not running in 32bit colour if I try to run the 3D test. Both monitors are set to 32bit colour. If I run a game like Skyrim it looks 3D on the monitor but the glasses and emmiter don't activate.

#37
Posted 11/17/2011 11:20 PM   
[quote name='andrewf@nvidia' date='11 November 2011 - 10:02 AM' timestamp='1321023762' post='1324478']
Hi

Again having an eye swapping problem isn't a solution, its a band aid. Eye swapping can occur randomly and we don't want users to have to always switch back and forth.

If anyone has swapping problems I want to document and try to fix them.
[/quote]

Your quote above really points out the failure in the way you are approaching customer service.
Your customers are telling you quite clearly what they want and you don't seem to be taking them seriously. This isn't Duke Nukem Forever where the programmers can take as long as they want because no money has exchanged hands yet. These people have paid you and you have an obligation to give them a timely resolve! Ok, we understand this bug might be a tough one to squash, but instead of "We'll approach it however we want and if it takes a year, too bad!"

how about "We at nVidia understand the frustration this problem is giving many of our customers and since we are having difficulty in reproducing the problem and therefore issueing a proper fix, we have decided, in the spirit of good customer service, to include a hotkey and checkbox to allow the user to manually switch eyes in the rendered image. We will continue working hard on fixing this issue the right way but wanted our customers to be able to use our product as fully as possible, if not 100% perfect, for the time being. Thanks for choosing nVidia!"

That would be good customer service.
[quote name='andrewf@nvidia' date='11 November 2011 - 10:02 AM' timestamp='1321023762' post='1324478']

Hi



Again having an eye swapping problem isn't a solution, its a band aid. Eye swapping can occur randomly and we don't want users to have to always switch back and forth.



If anyone has swapping problems I want to document and try to fix them.





Your quote above really points out the failure in the way you are approaching customer service.

Your customers are telling you quite clearly what they want and you don't seem to be taking them seriously. This isn't Duke Nukem Forever where the programmers can take as long as they want because no money has exchanged hands yet. These people have paid you and you have an obligation to give them a timely resolve! Ok, we understand this bug might be a tough one to squash, but instead of "We'll approach it however we want and if it takes a year, too bad!"



how about "We at nVidia understand the frustration this problem is giving many of our customers and since we are having difficulty in reproducing the problem and therefore issueing a proper fix, we have decided, in the spirit of good customer service, to include a hotkey and checkbox to allow the user to manually switch eyes in the rendered image. We will continue working hard on fixing this issue the right way but wanted our customers to be able to use our product as fully as possible, if not 100% perfect, for the time being. Thanks for choosing nVidia!"



That would be good customer service.

#38
Posted 11/18/2011 01:25 AM   
NVIDIA seems to be scared to lose prospective customers just because setting things up wrong gives people the wrong impression of 3D. The problem is however that they are going to lose their current customers, which they might not care about directly, us already having paid for 3d vision, because we don't get the options we want and need and if somebody comes along who will give us the options (AMD, Tridef, etc...) we will leave. Also we will then spread the word and offer those better solutions to newbies, so there aren't gonna be any new customers. I still consider 3d vision the best stereoscopic gaming solution at this moment, but it might change soon enough. All in all I very much agree with the above poster about NVIDIA taking the wrong approach.
NVIDIA seems to be scared to lose prospective customers just because setting things up wrong gives people the wrong impression of 3D. The problem is however that they are going to lose their current customers, which they might not care about directly, us already having paid for 3d vision, because we don't get the options we want and need and if somebody comes along who will give us the options (AMD, Tridef, etc...) we will leave. Also we will then spread the word and offer those better solutions to newbies, so there aren't gonna be any new customers. I still consider 3d vision the best stereoscopic gaming solution at this moment, but it might change soon enough. All in all I very much agree with the above poster about NVIDIA taking the wrong approach.

Current Rig: |Intel Core i7 920 @ 3.6GHz, EVGA X58 Classified 4-way SLI, 6 GB ram, Geforce GTX670| -> |Acer H5360 + Nvidia 3D Vision|

#39
Posted 11/18/2011 07:54 PM   
In the interest of getting back on topic and actually sorting out the issues of this release...

I was able to get 3d working again while still having two monitors attached. Steps below:

-Installed 285.62 drivers, still had the issue
-Reinstalled 285.62 with a clean install, still had the issue
-Switched my 3D emitter from the USB 3 controller to a USB 2 controller
-Brought up the details of Windows installing the driver for it and waited until it completed
-The emitter was now recognized by the setup program and the setup screens looked different. Instead of having several options in the middle of the screen I had two halves I could choose from. I'm assuming that somehow I ended up with a different 3D driver?
-Performed installation of 285.79 drivers
-Setup again worked and still had the new screens
-Started up Deus Ex: Human Revolution and had a reddish screen, realized Nvidia Discover was on
-In the Nvidia control panel I could select my monitor from the dropdown but whenever I hit apply it would set itself back to 3D Vision Discover
-Rebooted

Everything is now working fine, aside from the 3D in Deus Ex not really being anything special. I guess it's rated "Excellent" because there wasn't anything horribly wrong it. Anyway, hopefully this helps somebody. Switching USB ports seemed to be what did it.
In the interest of getting back on topic and actually sorting out the issues of this release...



I was able to get 3d working again while still having two monitors attached. Steps below:



-Installed 285.62 drivers, still had the issue

-Reinstalled 285.62 with a clean install, still had the issue

-Switched my 3D emitter from the USB 3 controller to a USB 2 controller

-Brought up the details of Windows installing the driver for it and waited until it completed

-The emitter was now recognized by the setup program and the setup screens looked different. Instead of having several options in the middle of the screen I had two halves I could choose from. I'm assuming that somehow I ended up with a different 3D driver?

-Performed installation of 285.79 drivers

-Setup again worked and still had the new screens

-Started up Deus Ex: Human Revolution and had a reddish screen, realized Nvidia Discover was on

-In the Nvidia control panel I could select my monitor from the dropdown but whenever I hit apply it would set itself back to 3D Vision Discover

-Rebooted



Everything is now working fine, aside from the 3D in Deus Ex not really being anything special. I guess it's rated "Excellent" because there wasn't anything horribly wrong it. Anyway, hopefully this helps somebody. Switching USB ports seemed to be what did it.

#40
Posted 11/20/2011 02:28 AM   
[quote name='andrewf@nvidia' date='10 November 2011 - 07:31 AM' timestamp='1320939062' post='1323698']
There is no fix for swapping, we still cannot reproduce it.

Please explain your issues about Vegas11 and PowerDVD. Those work fine for me.
[/quote]

@Relaxman, just fyi, the latest version of PowerDVD Ultra works fine on my machine, 285.62 drivers with BluRay 3D Green Hornet, etc.

PowerDirector 10, new program and concept editing in 3D and can get it to play/edit 3d with 285.62. So far, it works best viewing your edits with a single monitor. Running with a secondary monitor can be done, but don't recommend it right now. I think CyberL has some tweaks needed.

Vegas11, please see:

[url="http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=213360"]http://forums.nvidia...howtopic=213360[/url]

thanks,
Dan
[quote name='andrewf@nvidia' date='10 November 2011 - 07:31 AM' timestamp='1320939062' post='1323698']

There is no fix for swapping, we still cannot reproduce it.



Please explain your issues about Vegas11 and PowerDVD. Those work fine for me.





@Relaxman, just fyi, the latest version of PowerDVD Ultra works fine on my machine, 285.62 drivers with BluRay 3D Green Hornet, etc.



PowerDirector 10, new program and concept editing in 3D and can get it to play/edit 3d with 285.62. So far, it works best viewing your edits with a single monitor. Running with a secondary monitor can be done, but don't recommend it right now. I think CyberL has some tweaks needed.



Vegas11, please see:



http://forums.nvidia...howtopic=213360



thanks,

Dan

#41
Posted 11/20/2011 06:27 AM   
Just tried out the .79 beta on my Asrock media center, and the missing playback in MCE in .62 is now fixed. However I have another problem:

I use HDMI 1.4 output for 3D for bluray playback. When I've finished the nvidia 3D setup, it seems as if the 1080/24p mode has been "reserved" for 3D, ie. I cannot choose a 2D 1080/24p mode for 2D bluray playback. My 2D blurays therefore seem to be played back in 25p which results in jerking panning, as PowerDVD cannot find a 24p 2D mode. Is there a hope for this to be fixed so that 24p will be available in 2D as well as 3D?

System: Asrock Vision 3D 137B with Geforce 425M, Win7 32bit
Just tried out the .79 beta on my Asrock media center, and the missing playback in MCE in .62 is now fixed. However I have another problem:



I use HDMI 1.4 output for 3D for bluray playback. When I've finished the nvidia 3D setup, it seems as if the 1080/24p mode has been "reserved" for 3D, ie. I cannot choose a 2D 1080/24p mode for 2D bluray playback. My 2D blurays therefore seem to be played back in 25p which results in jerking panning, as PowerDVD cannot find a 24p 2D mode. Is there a hope for this to be fixed so that 24p will be available in 2D as well as 3D?



System: Asrock Vision 3D 137B with Geforce 425M, Win7 32bit

#42
Posted 11/21/2011 07:59 PM   
[quote name='huntiedk' date='21 November 2011 - 01:59 PM' timestamp='1321905558' post='1330489']
Just tried out the .79 beta on my Asrock media center, and the missing playback in MCE in .62 is now fixed. However I have another problem:

I use HDMI 1.4 output for 3D for bluray playback. When I've finished the nvidia 3D setup, it seems as if the 1080/24p mode has been "reserved" for 3D, ie. I cannot choose a 2D 1080/24p mode for 2D bluray playback. My 2D blurays therefore seem to be played back in 25p which results in jerking panning, as PowerDVD cannot find a 24p 2D mode. Is there a hope for this to be fixed so that 24p will be available in 2D as well as 3D?

System: Asrock Vision 3D 137B with Geforce 425M, Win7 32bit
[/quote]

Browse to the NVIDIA Control Panel > Change resolution tab. Make sure you are running "SD, HD" timings not the "HD 3D".
[quote name='huntiedk' date='21 November 2011 - 01:59 PM' timestamp='1321905558' post='1330489']

Just tried out the .79 beta on my Asrock media center, and the missing playback in MCE in .62 is now fixed. However I have another problem:



I use HDMI 1.4 output for 3D for bluray playback. When I've finished the nvidia 3D setup, it seems as if the 1080/24p mode has been "reserved" for 3D, ie. I cannot choose a 2D 1080/24p mode for 2D bluray playback. My 2D blurays therefore seem to be played back in 25p which results in jerking panning, as PowerDVD cannot find a 24p 2D mode. Is there a hope for this to be fixed so that 24p will be available in 2D as well as 3D?



System: Asrock Vision 3D 137B with Geforce 425M, Win7 32bit





Browse to the NVIDIA Control Panel > Change resolution tab. Make sure you are running "SD, HD" timings not the "HD 3D".

#43
Posted 11/22/2011 03:46 PM   
[quote name='andrewf@nvidia' date='22 November 2011 - 04:46 PM' timestamp='1321976774' post='1330989']
Browse to the NVIDIA Control Panel > Change resolution tab. Make sure you are running "SD, HD" timings not the "HD 3D".
[/quote]

Hi Andrew, thanks for your answer.

Well, that's exactly what I'm trying to do. Here's a series of screen shots illustrating the problem (sorry about the danish language, I hope the settings are recognizable anyway):

Firstly, as you see, I cannot select 24Hz under SD, HD:

[img]http://jaeger-hansen.dk/nvidia/1%20-%20missing%202D%2024p.png[/img]

However, the 3D resolution is using 24p.

I then tried to look at the user defined settings; these were already there (I filtered out the 8/16 bit modes):

[img]http://jaeger-hansen.dk/nvidia/2%20-%20user%20defined%20std.png[/img]

I then tried to create the resolution:

[img]http://jaeger-hansen.dk/nvidia/3%20-%20make%20userdefined.png[/img]

That gave me this error message, indicating that the resolution already exists in the PC section:

[img]http://jaeger-hansen.dk/nvidia/4%20-%20user%20defined%20errmsg.png[/img]

Just checking the PC section, no 1920x1080 resolutions at all:

[img]http://jaeger-hansen.dk/nvidia/5%20-%20pc%20settings,%20no%201920.png[/img]

So I'm still missing the 1080/24p 2D resolution.
[quote name='andrewf@nvidia' date='22 November 2011 - 04:46 PM' timestamp='1321976774' post='1330989']

Browse to the NVIDIA Control Panel > Change resolution tab. Make sure you are running "SD, HD" timings not the "HD 3D".





Hi Andrew, thanks for your answer.



Well, that's exactly what I'm trying to do. Here's a series of screen shots illustrating the problem (sorry about the danish language, I hope the settings are recognizable anyway):



Firstly, as you see, I cannot select 24Hz under SD, HD:



Image



However, the 3D resolution is using 24p.



I then tried to look at the user defined settings; these were already there (I filtered out the 8/16 bit modes):



Image



I then tried to create the resolution:



Image



That gave me this error message, indicating that the resolution already exists in the PC section:



Image



Just checking the PC section, no 1920x1080 resolutions at all:



Image



So I'm still missing the 1080/24p 2D resolution.

#44
Posted 11/23/2011 05:08 PM   
I am running 2 Nvidia GTX 460 cards in SLI on Windows 7 64-bit. For some reason, there is no download link for beta drivers on geforce.com when searching for this configuration, and a download link I found from Nvidia.com says that installation has failed when I try to install it. Is the 460 not supported with this release of the beta drivers?
I am running 2 Nvidia GTX 460 cards in SLI on Windows 7 64-bit. For some reason, there is no download link for beta drivers on geforce.com when searching for this configuration, and a download link I found from Nvidia.com says that installation has failed when I try to install it. Is the 460 not supported with this release of the beta drivers?

#45
Posted 11/26/2011 07:52 AM   
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