Just Cause 2 using 3D Vision: Shadows Broken on Windows 8.1
Hi Guys,
So with Just Cause 3 coming this December I thought I would go back to Just Cause 2.
After sorting the random crash issues (by turning decals off) in 2D I thought I would try it again in 3D.
On windows 7 it always ran great. Since then though I upgraded my card and recently upgraded to windows 8.1 which wasn't a clean install as upgraded straight from 7. I've heard this can be a cause it certain scenario's, but i'm not going to do a full reinstall of my OS unless someone says that's the solution.
Upon researching the various issues with windows 8.1 and 3D vision, I was wondering if any could clarify they have Just Cause 2 working fine on windows 8.1 in 3D?
My gpu is the EVGA 780 GTX superclocked with cooler, and I've gone back as far as I can go driver wise which still doesn't solve this issue.
I've even tried turning 3D off when launching game and turning it back on in game (like whats required I believe for some fixes with Witcher 3 in 3D).
There also doesn't seem to be an alternative to playing JC 2 in 3d as I tried TriDef's 3D which crashes when the game loads after menus sadly.
I should also state I'm using 3D TV play as I play on a 55 inch Panasonic plasma TV (Active 3D sadly so limited to 720p) and an Optoma projector.
Any help or extra info would be greatly appreciated.
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Also I found it curious that the UK listing of JC2 on the Nividia Geforce site doesn't have the 3D support listed anymore (Although it certainly did in 2013 as that's where I found it!), but the US site still does. Go look yourself, very odd!
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So with Just Cause 3 coming this December I thought I would go back to Just Cause 2.
After sorting the random crash issues (by turning decals off) in 2D I thought I would try it again in 3D.
On windows 7 it always ran great. Since then though I upgraded my card and recently upgraded to windows 8.1 which wasn't a clean install as upgraded straight from 7. I've heard this can be a cause it certain scenario's, but i'm not going to do a full reinstall of my OS unless someone says that's the solution.
Upon researching the various issues with windows 8.1 and 3D vision, I was wondering if any could clarify they have Just Cause 2 working fine on windows 8.1 in 3D?
My gpu is the EVGA 780 GTX superclocked with cooler, and I've gone back as far as I can go driver wise which still doesn't solve this issue.
I've even tried turning 3D off when launching game and turning it back on in game (like whats required I believe for some fixes with Witcher 3 in 3D).
There also doesn't seem to be an alternative to playing JC 2 in 3d as I tried TriDef's 3D which crashes when the game loads after menus sadly.
I should also state I'm using 3D TV play as I play on a 55 inch Panasonic plasma TV (Active 3D sadly so limited to 720p) and an Optoma projector.
Any help or extra info would be greatly appreciated.
**************************************************************
Also I found it curious that the UK listing of JC2 on the Nividia Geforce site doesn't have the 3D support listed anymore (Although it certainly did in 2013 as that's where I found it!), but the US site still does. Go look yourself, very odd!
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CPU: [ Intel I7 6700K Overclocked 4.6GHz,]
GPU [EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti SC Black Edition GAMING, 11G-P4-6393-KR, 11GB GDDR5X, iCX Cooler & LED]
Similar problem here. It ran fine on my old rig, but low fps so I waited to upgrade system.
Was running Win 7, Q6600@3Ghz, GTX650Ti.
Now when I try to run in 3D, textures aren't loading properly.
I don't think it might be my driver anymore, as you said you went back as far as you could on a 780 (which would be 320.18, pre-compatibility mode driver should be good enough).
Windows MUST be the problem! Thinking about rolling back to Windows 7, but I just downloaded Windows 10. Staying on 8.1 seems a somewhat reasonable middle ground at the moment.
Similar problem here. It ran fine on my old rig, but low fps so I waited to upgrade system.
Was running Win 7, Q6600@3Ghz, GTX650Ti.
Now when I try to run in 3D, textures aren't loading properly.
I don't think it might be my driver anymore, as you said you went back as far as you could on a 780 (which would be 320.18, pre-compatibility mode driver should be good enough).
Windows MUST be the problem! Thinking about rolling back to Windows 7, but I just downloaded Windows 10. Staying on 8.1 seems a somewhat reasonable middle ground at the moment.
See I've read the odd person say windows 7 also has 3D vision issues, so I'm not sure. Some have said old cards run it fine but again they go back drivers which I can't due to the card.
World of Warcraft players from what I've read have the same issue as this game pretty much, which appeared out of no where, and quite a few of those players were also on windows 7.
Reinstalling an O.S. can be a royal pain, to do that have still have the issue, well you can imagine my hesitation.
As for windows 10 I hear a lot of the drivers and what have you aren't quite stable yet, especially for 3D. So i'm not ready to go there yet either.
Hmm as Just Cause 2 is an old game with the next one about to drop, I don't see this being repaired anytime soon. I think it may be both a driver and windows problem.
It would be good though for someone with windows 8 or 8.1 to say yeah I have it working and show a video or something. That would give us something to work off.
See I've read the odd person say windows 7 also has 3D vision issues, so I'm not sure. Some have said old cards run it fine but again they go back drivers which I can't due to the card.
World of Warcraft players from what I've read have the same issue as this game pretty much, which appeared out of no where, and quite a few of those players were also on windows 7.
Reinstalling an O.S. can be a royal pain, to do that have still have the issue, well you can imagine my hesitation.
As for windows 10 I hear a lot of the drivers and what have you aren't quite stable yet, especially for 3D. So i'm not ready to go there yet either.
Hmm as Just Cause 2 is an old game with the next one about to drop, I don't see this being repaired anytime soon. I think it may be both a driver and windows problem.
It would be good though for someone with windows 8 or 8.1 to say yeah I have it working and show a video or something. That would give us something to work off.
CPU: [ Intel I7 6700K Overclocked 4.6GHz,]
GPU [EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti SC Black Edition GAMING, 11G-P4-6393-KR, 11GB GDDR5X, iCX Cooler & LED]
[quote=""]See I've read the odd person say windows 7 also has 3D vision issues, so I'm not sure. Some have said old cards run it fine but again they go back drivers which I can't due to the card.
World of Warcraft players from what I've read have the same issue as this game pretty much, which appeared out of no where, and quite a few of those players were also on windows 7.
Reinstalling an O.S. can be a royal pain, to do that have still have the issue, well you can imagine my hesitation.
As for windows 10 I hear a lot of the drivers and what have you aren't quite stable yet, especially for 3D. So i'm not ready to go there yet either.
Hmm as Just Cause 2 is an old game with the next one about to drop, I don't see this being repaired anytime soon. I think it may be both a driver and windows problem.
It would be good though for someone with windows 8 or 8.1 to say yeah I have it working and show a video or something. That would give us something to work off.[/quote]
You can roll back to Win7 as a test, without losing your 8.1 if it fails. Do an [i]image [/i]backup of your current system. I've used Acronis, but Macrium is free and supposed to be better.
Then rebuild the system with a clean Win7 install, don't even need a license to give it a try. 30 days before it starts to complain. If it doesn't work there, you can then do bare-metal restore of your Win8.1 install. I do this all the time, and it takes about 20 minutes to restore.
Bit of a pain with all the Win7 downloads, but doesn't require attention.
Another good possibility is to have a dual-boot. Doesn't hurt to have a clean Win7 install available for testing exactly this sort of scenario. You can do this by simply shrinking your boot drive, or use a second drive.
I have JC2 installed (crazy good in 3D!), I'll try it on Win7 350.12 and report back late today.
Just for fun:
[img]http://www.bo3b.net/Crysis2/JustCause210_85.jps[/img]
[color="orange"]Edit: Just as a data point, JC2 (steam version) is running fine on Win7+350.12. No problems with 3D, looks perfect. Full SLI scaling working correctly, 60 fps on SLI 760 at 1080p.[/color]
said:See I've read the odd person say windows 7 also has 3D vision issues, so I'm not sure. Some have said old cards run it fine but again they go back drivers which I can't due to the card.
World of Warcraft players from what I've read have the same issue as this game pretty much, which appeared out of no where, and quite a few of those players were also on windows 7.
Reinstalling an O.S. can be a royal pain, to do that have still have the issue, well you can imagine my hesitation.
As for windows 10 I hear a lot of the drivers and what have you aren't quite stable yet, especially for 3D. So i'm not ready to go there yet either.
Hmm as Just Cause 2 is an old game with the next one about to drop, I don't see this being repaired anytime soon. I think it may be both a driver and windows problem.
It would be good though for someone with windows 8 or 8.1 to say yeah I have it working and show a video or something. That would give us something to work off.
You can roll back to Win7 as a test, without losing your 8.1 if it fails. Do an image backup of your current system. I've used Acronis, but Macrium is free and supposed to be better.
Then rebuild the system with a clean Win7 install, don't even need a license to give it a try. 30 days before it starts to complain. If it doesn't work there, you can then do bare-metal restore of your Win8.1 install. I do this all the time, and it takes about 20 minutes to restore.
Bit of a pain with all the Win7 downloads, but doesn't require attention.
Another good possibility is to have a dual-boot. Doesn't hurt to have a clean Win7 install available for testing exactly this sort of scenario. You can do this by simply shrinking your boot drive, or use a second drive.
I have JC2 installed (crazy good in 3D!), I'll try it on Win7 350.12 and report back late today.
Just for fun:
Edit: Just as a data point, JC2 (steam version) is running fine on Win7+350.12. No problems with 3D, looks perfect. Full SLI scaling working correctly, 60 fps on SLI 760 at 1080p.
Acer H5360 (1280x720@120Hz) - ASUS VG248QE with GSync mod - 3D Vision 1&2 - Driver 372.54
GTX 970 - i5-4670K@4.2GHz - 12GB RAM - Win7x64+evilKB2670838 - 4 Disk X25 RAID
SAGER NP9870-S - GTX 980 - i7-6700K - Win10 Pro 1607 Latest 3Dmigoto Release Bo3b's School for ShaderHackers
Thank you for visiting bo3b. I've seen you on a few posts on this forum giving advice, all seemed sound, so I do really appreciate you taking the time to comment.
If this is then a windows issue with 8.1 (which seems quite likely I guess at this point), do you think there will be no hope for windows 10?
A dual boot etc is doable, but I partly run a business on my PC from home, and I run out of hard drive space fast. I wasn't planning on buying an additional drive any time soon.
As for the roll back, also possible, but i'm hoping that's a last resort again due to how much work I have saved on this PC, and backing all that up.
Thank you for visiting bo3b. I've seen you on a few posts on this forum giving advice, all seemed sound, so I do really appreciate you taking the time to comment.
If this is then a windows issue with 8.1 (which seems quite likely I guess at this point), do you think there will be no hope for windows 10?
A dual boot etc is doable, but I partly run a business on my PC from home, and I run out of hard drive space fast. I wasn't planning on buying an additional drive any time soon.
As for the roll back, also possible, but i'm hoping that's a last resort again due to how much work I have saved on this PC, and backing all that up.
CPU: [ Intel I7 6700K Overclocked 4.6GHz,]
GPU [EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti SC Black Edition GAMING, 11G-P4-6393-KR, 11GB GDDR5X, iCX Cooler & LED]
I don't know about Win8.1 or Win10 support for this game, I just wanted to make sure the game hadn't updated and broken the 3D. So we know the game is OK, at least on Win7. Could easily be drivers as well as the OS.
If someone else can give it a whirl on 8.1 or 10, that would be good info.
As far as a drive, I think dual boot is seriously the way to go. A bit of a pain to setup, and be sure you have a backup, but once it's up, it's easy to switch to 'game-mode'. You can get a 3T HD for $100, 500G for $50. For this purpose using a spinner isn't going to make a giant difference, other than loading times.
I use a 3T spinner for my game installs while booting off an SSD, just so that I can keep 100s of games installed at once.
I don't know about Win8.1 or Win10 support for this game, I just wanted to make sure the game hadn't updated and broken the 3D. So we know the game is OK, at least on Win7. Could easily be drivers as well as the OS.
If someone else can give it a whirl on 8.1 or 10, that would be good info.
As far as a drive, I think dual boot is seriously the way to go. A bit of a pain to setup, and be sure you have a backup, but once it's up, it's easy to switch to 'game-mode'. You can get a 3T HD for $100, 500G for $50. For this purpose using a spinner isn't going to make a giant difference, other than loading times.
I use a 3T spinner for my game installs while booting off an SSD, just so that I can keep 100s of games installed at once.
Acer H5360 (1280x720@120Hz) - ASUS VG248QE with GSync mod - 3D Vision 1&2 - Driver 372.54
GTX 970 - i5-4670K@4.2GHz - 12GB RAM - Win7x64+evilKB2670838 - 4 Disk X25 RAID
SAGER NP9870-S - GTX 980 - i7-6700K - Win10 Pro 1607 Latest 3Dmigoto Release Bo3b's School for ShaderHackers
So I'm thinking my 8.1 upgrade from 7 is potentially the issue. Was your windows 8.1 a clean install Zig'?
I presume the only known causes are the o.s. or driver, nothing else?
I have x precision installed which is an older version, the most recent one makes windows hang etc, but never seen that cause graphic disruption in a game before.
I've tried Witcher 3 (such as it is) and there was no graphic disruption or shadows problems with it. So I wonder why JC2 suffers. Damn this is frustrating.
I've got the windows 10 upgrade downloading now, wondering if I should go ahead with the install, which again will be an upgrade....
Thanks the info guys. Think a dual boot may be an option, does look a pain in the ass though.
So I'm thinking my 8.1 upgrade from 7 is potentially the issue. Was your windows 8.1 a clean install Zig'?
I presume the only known causes are the o.s. or driver, nothing else?
I have x precision installed which is an older version, the most recent one makes windows hang etc, but never seen that cause graphic disruption in a game before.
I've tried Witcher 3 (such as it is) and there was no graphic disruption or shadows problems with it. So I wonder why JC2 suffers. Damn this is frustrating.
I've got the windows 10 upgrade downloading now, wondering if I should go ahead with the install, which again will be an upgrade....
Thanks the info guys. Think a dual boot may be an option, does look a pain in the ass though.
CPU: [ Intel I7 6700K Overclocked 4.6GHz,]
GPU [EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti SC Black Edition GAMING, 11G-P4-6393-KR, 11GB GDDR5X, iCX Cooler & LED]
[quote=""]So I'm thinking my 8.1 upgrade from 7 is potentially the issue. Was your windows 8.1 a clean install Zig'?
I presume the only known causes are the o.s. or driver, nothing else?
I have x precision installed which is an older version, the most recent one makes windows hang etc, but never seen that cause graphic disruption in a game before.
I've tried Witcher 3 (such as it is) and there was no graphic disruption or shadows problems with it. So I wonder why JC2 suffers. Damn this is frustrating.
I've got the windows 10 upgrade downloading now, wondering if I should go ahead with the install, which again will be an upgrade....
Thanks the info guys. Think a dual boot may be an option, does look a pain in the ass though.[/quote]
The windows 8.1 image was completely restore about 6 months ago via Update and Recovery
I just checked Windows 10 driver version 355.60 3D is perfect also Windows 10 image is upgraded from the windows 8.1 image.
said:So I'm thinking my 8.1 upgrade from 7 is potentially the issue. Was your windows 8.1 a clean install Zig'?
I presume the only known causes are the o.s. or driver, nothing else?
I have x precision installed which is an older version, the most recent one makes windows hang etc, but never seen that cause graphic disruption in a game before.
I've tried Witcher 3 (such as it is) and there was no graphic disruption or shadows problems with it. So I wonder why JC2 suffers. Damn this is frustrating.
I've got the windows 10 upgrade downloading now, wondering if I should go ahead with the install, which again will be an upgrade....
Thanks the info guys. Think a dual boot may be an option, does look a pain in the ass though.
The windows 8.1 image was completely restore about 6 months ago via Update and Recovery
I just checked Windows 10 driver version 355.60 3D is perfect also Windows 10 image is upgraded from the windows 8.1 image.
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Well my windows 10 certainly wasn't it was exactly the same graphical issues. So i had a poke about windows 10, didn't really care for it and used the restore function back to 8. all my graphical issues are still there.
It's odd that no other games seem to have an issue for me, other than this game. I'm also not the only one.
So at this point it's either:
A. A jackpot lottery on a windows 8.1 upgrade from 7 to not have graphical disruption on this game.
B. A clean install required for windows 8.1 (where after you can upgrade to windows 10 care free).
C. The type of card you have (find this unlikely, but i've noticed some of the people having JC2 3D issues are using a series 7 card on windows 8.1 or upwards).
D. Stick to windows 7!!!!
E. A 3D TV only issue perhaps for people like me using 60hz TV, which is not an issue when using normal 3D vision via Monitor or Passive TV 3D work around????
If anyone has this issue and finds it trouble free to attempt a clean install of 8.1 that would be helpful.
I'm rather envious of you Zig'. All I want to do is play this game :( (cries in a corner).
Well my windows 10 certainly wasn't it was exactly the same graphical issues. So i had a poke about windows 10, didn't really care for it and used the restore function back to 8. all my graphical issues are still there.
It's odd that no other games seem to have an issue for me, other than this game. I'm also not the only one.
So at this point it's either:
A. A jackpot lottery on a windows 8.1 upgrade from 7 to not have graphical disruption on this game.
B. A clean install required for windows 8.1 (where after you can upgrade to windows 10 care free).
C. The type of card you have (find this unlikely, but i've noticed some of the people having JC2 3D issues are using a series 7 card on windows 8.1 or upwards).
D. Stick to windows 7!!!!
E. A 3D TV only issue perhaps for people like me using 60hz TV, which is not an issue when using normal 3D vision via Monitor or Passive TV 3D work around????
If anyone has this issue and finds it trouble free to attempt a clean install of 8.1 that would be helpful.
I'm rather envious of you Zig'. All I want to do is play this game :( (cries in a corner).
CPU: [ Intel I7 6700K Overclocked 4.6GHz,]
GPU [EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti SC Black Edition GAMING, 11G-P4-6393-KR, 11GB GDDR5X, iCX Cooler & LED]
Just tried it on Windows 10. Enabling Steam overlay and big picture mode breaks shadows in this game with 3d Vision.
Only fix is to log out of Windows 10 and start it up again without Steam in game overlay checkbox.
Insertion of 3D vision in this game is showing a different result from other 3D vision ready games. They usually show the overlay in one eye for 3d Vision ready games. This game seems to render both eyes the overlay.
Just tried it on Windows 10. Enabling Steam overlay and big picture mode breaks shadows in this game with 3d Vision.
Only fix is to log out of Windows 10 and start it up again without Steam in game overlay checkbox.
Insertion of 3D vision in this game is showing a different result from other 3D vision ready games. They usually show the overlay in one eye for 3d Vision ready games. This game seems to render both eyes the overlay.
[quote="SkySolstice"]Insertion of 3D vision in this game is showing a different result from other 3D vision ready games. They usually show the overlay in one eye for 3d Vision ready games.[/quote]I believe that happens in games using 3D Vision Direct because only one eye is selected across the Present() call (same thing happens to the 3DMigoto overlay if you try it in one of those games), whereas if memory serves this uses 3D Vision Automatic so the overlay gets automatically drawn on both eyes.
SkySolstice said:Insertion of 3D vision in this game is showing a different result from other 3D vision ready games. They usually show the overlay in one eye for 3d Vision ready games.
I believe that happens in games using 3D Vision Direct because only one eye is selected across the Present() call (same thing happens to the 3DMigoto overlay if you try it in one of those games), whereas if memory serves this uses 3D Vision Automatic so the overlay gets automatically drawn on both eyes.
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So with Just Cause 3 coming this December I thought I would go back to Just Cause 2.
After sorting the random crash issues (by turning decals off) in 2D I thought I would try it again in 3D.
On windows 7 it always ran great. Since then though I upgraded my card and recently upgraded to windows 8.1 which wasn't a clean install as upgraded straight from 7. I've heard this can be a cause it certain scenario's, but i'm not going to do a full reinstall of my OS unless someone says that's the solution.
Upon researching the various issues with windows 8.1 and 3D vision, I was wondering if any could clarify they have Just Cause 2 working fine on windows 8.1 in 3D?
My gpu is the EVGA 780 GTX superclocked with cooler, and I've gone back as far as I can go driver wise which still doesn't solve this issue.
I've even tried turning 3D off when launching game and turning it back on in game (like whats required I believe for some fixes with Witcher 3 in 3D).
There also doesn't seem to be an alternative to playing JC 2 in 3d as I tried TriDef's 3D which crashes when the game loads after menus sadly.
I should also state I'm using 3D TV play as I play on a 55 inch Panasonic plasma TV (Active 3D sadly so limited to 720p) and an Optoma projector.
Any help or extra info would be greatly appreciated.
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Also I found it curious that the UK listing of JC2 on the Nividia Geforce site doesn't have the 3D support listed anymore (Although it certainly did in 2013 as that's where I found it!), but the US site still does. Go look yourself, very odd!
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CPU: [ Intel I7 6700K Overclocked 4.6GHz,]
GPU [EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti SC Black Edition GAMING, 11G-P4-6393-KR, 11GB GDDR5X, iCX Cooler & LED]
RAM [16GB 3000Mhz DDR4 Corsair Vengeance Heatspreader @ 4000MHZ]
MoBo [Gigabyte Z170X-Gaming 5]
OS [64-bit Windows 10 Pro]
SCREENS: [ 1. Samsung QLED 7F 65-Inch TV 2. Optoma HD300X 1080p 3D projector 3 (main screen). Acer Predator X34P 34 Inch WQHD Curved 1900R ultrawide QHD (3440 x 1440) Gaming Monitor]
Was running Win 7, Q6600@3Ghz, GTX650Ti.
Now when I try to run in 3D, textures aren't loading properly.
I don't think it might be my driver anymore, as you said you went back as far as you could on a 780 (which would be 320.18, pre-compatibility mode driver should be good enough).
Windows MUST be the problem! Thinking about rolling back to Windows 7, but I just downloaded Windows 10. Staying on 8.1 seems a somewhat reasonable middle ground at the moment.
OS & Driver: Win 10 w/417.35
CPU & GPU: i7 4790k, Gigabyte 980Ti G1 Gaming
MB & RAM: Asrock Z97 Extreme4, GSkill Trident 16Gb DDR3 2400Mhz
Audio: Realtek HD, Steinberg UR44
Display: Acer XB271HUA w/3D Vision 2 Kit
World of Warcraft players from what I've read have the same issue as this game pretty much, which appeared out of no where, and quite a few of those players were also on windows 7.
Reinstalling an O.S. can be a royal pain, to do that have still have the issue, well you can imagine my hesitation.
As for windows 10 I hear a lot of the drivers and what have you aren't quite stable yet, especially for 3D. So i'm not ready to go there yet either.
Hmm as Just Cause 2 is an old game with the next one about to drop, I don't see this being repaired anytime soon. I think it may be both a driver and windows problem.
It would be good though for someone with windows 8 or 8.1 to say yeah I have it working and show a video or something. That would give us something to work off.
CPU: [ Intel I7 6700K Overclocked 4.6GHz,]
GPU [EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti SC Black Edition GAMING, 11G-P4-6393-KR, 11GB GDDR5X, iCX Cooler & LED]
RAM [16GB 3000Mhz DDR4 Corsair Vengeance Heatspreader @ 4000MHZ]
MoBo [Gigabyte Z170X-Gaming 5]
OS [64-bit Windows 10 Pro]
SCREENS: [ 1. Samsung QLED 7F 65-Inch TV 2. Optoma HD300X 1080p 3D projector 3 (main screen). Acer Predator X34P 34 Inch WQHD Curved 1900R ultrawide QHD (3440 x 1440) Gaming Monitor]
You can roll back to Win7 as a test, without losing your 8.1 if it fails. Do an image backup of your current system. I've used Acronis, but Macrium is free and supposed to be better.
Then rebuild the system with a clean Win7 install, don't even need a license to give it a try. 30 days before it starts to complain. If it doesn't work there, you can then do bare-metal restore of your Win8.1 install. I do this all the time, and it takes about 20 minutes to restore.
Bit of a pain with all the Win7 downloads, but doesn't require attention.
Another good possibility is to have a dual-boot. Doesn't hurt to have a clean Win7 install available for testing exactly this sort of scenario. You can do this by simply shrinking your boot drive, or use a second drive.
I have JC2 installed (crazy good in 3D!), I'll try it on Win7 350.12 and report back late today.
Just for fun:
Edit: Just as a data point, JC2 (steam version) is running fine on Win7+350.12. No problems with 3D, looks perfect. Full SLI scaling working correctly, 60 fps on SLI 760 at 1080p.
Acer H5360 (1280x720@120Hz) - ASUS VG248QE with GSync mod - 3D Vision 1&2 - Driver 372.54
GTX 970 - i5-4670K@4.2GHz - 12GB RAM - Win7x64+evilKB2670838 - 4 Disk X25 RAID
SAGER NP9870-S - GTX 980 - i7-6700K - Win10 Pro 1607
Latest 3Dmigoto Release
Bo3b's School for ShaderHackers
If this is then a windows issue with 8.1 (which seems quite likely I guess at this point), do you think there will be no hope for windows 10?
A dual boot etc is doable, but I partly run a business on my PC from home, and I run out of hard drive space fast. I wasn't planning on buying an additional drive any time soon.
As for the roll back, also possible, but i'm hoping that's a last resort again due to how much work I have saved on this PC, and backing all that up.
CPU: [ Intel I7 6700K Overclocked 4.6GHz,]
GPU [EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti SC Black Edition GAMING, 11G-P4-6393-KR, 11GB GDDR5X, iCX Cooler & LED]
RAM [16GB 3000Mhz DDR4 Corsair Vengeance Heatspreader @ 4000MHZ]
MoBo [Gigabyte Z170X-Gaming 5]
OS [64-bit Windows 10 Pro]
SCREENS: [ 1. Samsung QLED 7F 65-Inch TV 2. Optoma HD300X 1080p 3D projector 3 (main screen). Acer Predator X34P 34 Inch WQHD Curved 1900R ultrawide QHD (3440 x 1440) Gaming Monitor]
If someone else can give it a whirl on 8.1 or 10, that would be good info.
As far as a drive, I think dual boot is seriously the way to go. A bit of a pain to setup, and be sure you have a backup, but once it's up, it's easy to switch to 'game-mode'. You can get a 3T HD for $100, 500G for $50. For this purpose using a spinner isn't going to make a giant difference, other than loading times.
I use a 3T spinner for my game installs while booting off an SSD, just so that I can keep 100s of games installed at once.
Acer H5360 (1280x720@120Hz) - ASUS VG248QE with GSync mod - 3D Vision 1&2 - Driver 372.54
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I presume the only known causes are the o.s. or driver, nothing else?
I have x precision installed which is an older version, the most recent one makes windows hang etc, but never seen that cause graphic disruption in a game before.
I've tried Witcher 3 (such as it is) and there was no graphic disruption or shadows problems with it. So I wonder why JC2 suffers. Damn this is frustrating.
I've got the windows 10 upgrade downloading now, wondering if I should go ahead with the install, which again will be an upgrade....
Thanks the info guys. Think a dual boot may be an option, does look a pain in the ass though.
CPU: [ Intel I7 6700K Overclocked 4.6GHz,]
GPU [EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti SC Black Edition GAMING, 11G-P4-6393-KR, 11GB GDDR5X, iCX Cooler & LED]
RAM [16GB 3000Mhz DDR4 Corsair Vengeance Heatspreader @ 4000MHZ]
MoBo [Gigabyte Z170X-Gaming 5]
OS [64-bit Windows 10 Pro]
SCREENS: [ 1. Samsung QLED 7F 65-Inch TV 2. Optoma HD300X 1080p 3D projector 3 (main screen). Acer Predator X34P 34 Inch WQHD Curved 1900R ultrawide QHD (3440 x 1440) Gaming Monitor]
The windows 8.1 image was completely restore about 6 months ago via Update and Recovery
I just checked Windows 10 driver version 355.60 3D is perfect also Windows 10 image is upgraded from the windows 8.1 image.
Gigabyte Z370 Gaming 7 32GB Ram i9-9900K GigaByte Aorus Extreme Gaming 2080TI (single) Game Blaster Z Windows 10 X64 build #17763.195 Define R6 Blackout Case Corsair H110i GTX Sandisk 1TB (OS) SanDisk 2TB SSD (Games) Seagate EXOs 8 and 12 TB drives Samsung UN46c7000 HD TV Samsung UN55HU9000 UHD TVCurrently using ACER PASSIVE EDID override on 3D TVs LG 55
It's odd that no other games seem to have an issue for me, other than this game. I'm also not the only one.
So at this point it's either:
A. A jackpot lottery on a windows 8.1 upgrade from 7 to not have graphical disruption on this game.
B. A clean install required for windows 8.1 (where after you can upgrade to windows 10 care free).
C. The type of card you have (find this unlikely, but i've noticed some of the people having JC2 3D issues are using a series 7 card on windows 8.1 or upwards).
D. Stick to windows 7!!!!
E. A 3D TV only issue perhaps for people like me using 60hz TV, which is not an issue when using normal 3D vision via Monitor or Passive TV 3D work around????
If anyone has this issue and finds it trouble free to attempt a clean install of 8.1 that would be helpful.
I'm rather envious of you Zig'. All I want to do is play this game :( (cries in a corner).
CPU: [ Intel I7 6700K Overclocked 4.6GHz,]
GPU [EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti SC Black Edition GAMING, 11G-P4-6393-KR, 11GB GDDR5X, iCX Cooler & LED]
RAM [16GB 3000Mhz DDR4 Corsair Vengeance Heatspreader @ 4000MHZ]
MoBo [Gigabyte Z170X-Gaming 5]
OS [64-bit Windows 10 Pro]
SCREENS: [ 1. Samsung QLED 7F 65-Inch TV 2. Optoma HD300X 1080p 3D projector 3 (main screen). Acer Predator X34P 34 Inch WQHD Curved 1900R ultrawide QHD (3440 x 1440) Gaming Monitor]
Only fix is to log out of Windows 10 and start it up again without Steam in game overlay checkbox.
Insertion of 3D vision in this game is showing a different result from other 3D vision ready games. They usually show the overlay in one eye for 3d Vision ready games. This game seems to render both eyes the overlay.
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