Modifying 3D Vision to support SBS
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[quote="vitalijus_b"] Well as I said, you should disable 3dvision in nvidia CP (3dtv play is not working with DSR afaik), then in game settings enable native SBS implementation and choose 4k resolution. (but still use 3dmigoto wrapper with modified config and modified sbs shaders) .[/quote] If I disable 3dvision in control panel, I cannot switch to TAB mode as F11 does nothing. And how did you get rid of green text?
vitalijus_b said:
Well as I said, you should disable 3dvision in nvidia CP (3dtv play is not working with DSR afaik), then in game settings enable native SBS implementation and choose 4k resolution. (but still use 3dmigoto wrapper with modified config and modified sbs shaders)
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If I disable 3dvision in control panel, I cannot switch to TAB mode as F11 does nothing. And how did you get rid of green text?

Posted 11/06/2016 01:02 AM   
[quote="w8ing4some1"][quote="vitalijus_b"] Well as I said, you should disable 3dvision in nvidia CP (3dtv play is not working with DSR afaik), then in game settings enable native SBS implementation and choose 4k resolution. (but still use 3dmigoto wrapper with modified config and modified sbs shaders) .[/quote] If I disable 3dvision in control panel, I cannot switch to TAB mode as F11 does nothing. And how did you get rid of green text?[/quote] You are probably using default config (d3dx.ini) coming with 3dmigoto. Instead you should use the one for the TombRaider, but modified (with removed stereo2mono word). Also you need changed shaders as described in this thread before. You can get my config and those shader files here: [url]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/13674785/3dvision/rotr.zip[/url]
w8ing4some1 said:
vitalijus_b said:
Well as I said, you should disable 3dvision in nvidia CP (3dtv play is not working with DSR afaik), then in game settings enable native SBS implementation and choose 4k resolution. (but still use 3dmigoto wrapper with modified config and modified sbs shaders)
.

If I disable 3dvision in control panel, I cannot switch to TAB mode as F11 does nothing. And how did you get rid of green text?


You are probably using default config (d3dx.ini) coming with 3dmigoto. Instead you should use the one for the TombRaider, but modified (with removed stereo2mono word). Also you need changed shaders as described in this thread before. You can get my config and those shader files here: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/13674785/3dvision/rotr.zip

Posted 11/06/2016 08:31 AM   
[quote="vitalijus_b"] You are probably using default config (d3dx.ini) coming with 3dmigoto. Instead you should use the one for the TombRaider, but modified (with removed stereo2mono word). Also you need changed shaders as described in this thread before. You can get my config and those shader files here: [url]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/13674785/3dvision/rotr.zip[/url][/quote] Thanks, with your files I managed to make it work. It is indeed looks much better. But now I cannot click anything ingame because cursor has a huge offset. Did you have this problem? How did you solve it?
vitalijus_b said:
You are probably using default config (d3dx.ini) coming with 3dmigoto. Instead you should use the one for the TombRaider, but modified (with removed stereo2mono word). Also you need changed shaders as described in this thread before. You can get my config and those shader files here: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/13674785/3dvision/rotr.zip

Thanks, with your files I managed to make it work. It is indeed looks much better.
But now I cannot click anything ingame because cursor has a huge offset. Did you have this problem? How did you solve it?

Posted 11/07/2016 07:34 AM   
[quote="w8ing4some1"] But now I cannot click anything ingame because cursor has a huge offset. Did you have this problem? How did you solve it?[/quote] I just play using gamepad :)
w8ing4some1 said:
But now I cannot click anything ingame because cursor has a huge offset. Did you have this problem? How did you solve it?

I just play using gamepad :)

Posted 11/07/2016 07:56 AM   
[quote="sammy123"]TaB looks much better on my benq w1110 too compared to SBS. Ive tried comparing using 3d migoto and tridef3d. "Much better" might be understatement as 1080p sbs looks worse than 720p frame sequential, and 1080p TaB looks better than it. I have no idea why its like that, but ive had the same results on multiple projectors. In theory there should not be much difference in pixel count.[/quote] Hi, have you tried Fallout 4? How did you compare the two? They look the same to me but I'm using TAB too based on what other people are saying. Are both sbs and tab the same in terms of input lag? I'm using mine on a 200in plus screen, probably losing a lot of quality because of that too. Also what are you using now: Tridef's official profile or the Helix Mod fix? I found the latter much less taxing on my system but, comparing the two, did not see a lot of difference in Diamond city.
sammy123 said:TaB looks much better on my benq w1110 too compared to SBS. Ive tried comparing using 3d migoto and tridef3d. "Much better" might be understatement as 1080p sbs looks worse than 720p frame sequential, and 1080p TaB looks better than it. I have no idea why its like that, but ive had the same results on multiple projectors. In theory there should not be much difference in pixel count.


Hi, have you tried Fallout 4? How did you compare the two? They look the same to me but I'm using TAB too based on what other people are saying. Are both sbs and tab the same in terms of input lag? I'm using mine on a 200in plus screen, probably losing a lot of quality because of that too.

Also what are you using now: Tridef's official profile or the Helix Mod fix? I found the latter much less taxing on my system but, comparing the two, did not see a lot of difference in Diamond city.

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Posted 11/10/2016 06:44 AM   
Not sure if this was ever posted, but this doesn't need 3dtvplay. I am able to use the sbs option with 3d discover. Simply change the anaglyph profiles in the registry to reflect a non functioning anaglyph option (red in each eye), and the discover driver will show up as clear (non anaglyph colors). Finally, lock the permissions on the registry file because otherwise the anaglyph mode resets whenever a game runs. This allows all the resolutions available to the game.
Not sure if this was ever posted, but this doesn't need 3dtvplay. I am able to use the sbs option with 3d discover. Simply change the anaglyph profiles in the registry to reflect a non functioning anaglyph option (red in each eye), and the discover driver will show up as clear (non anaglyph colors). Finally, lock the permissions on the registry file because otherwise the anaglyph mode resets whenever a game runs.

This allows all the resolutions available to the game.

Posted 12/14/2016 06:37 PM   
Is it possible to get half 4k resolution per eye using this method and a 4k Active 3D tv? Or is this for half 1080p per eye? Thanks!
Is it possible to get half 4k resolution per eye using this method and a 4k Active 3D tv? Or is this for half 1080p per eye?

Thanks!

Posted 12/30/2016 10:36 AM   
Awsome thread Ive read it all and are very thankfull for everyones efforts, however, I am still having some issues with some games. Modes not cycling with F11. Far cry 4, Sniper Elite 3. Mad max and Phantom pain crash when I enable sbs in INI file. Ive been successful in getting a couple of games to work in sbs, Far Cry Primal and Dying Light for example. PS Ive tried adding the extra lines to the ini as previously suggessted when F11 doesnt work.
Awsome thread Ive read it all and are very thankfull for everyones efforts, however, I am still having some issues with some games. Modes not cycling with F11. Far cry 4, Sniper Elite 3. Mad max and Phantom pain crash when I enable sbs in INI file. Ive been successful in getting a couple of games to work in sbs, Far Cry Primal and Dying Light for example. PS Ive tried adding the extra lines to the ini as previously suggessted when F11 doesnt work.

Posted 01/20/2017 06:45 AM   
Is there any chance of a dx9 version of this, at some point in the distant future? Perhaps a dx9 migoto wrapper? I generally use 3d for older games, as I can push 60fps in 3d. There is always tridef, but this has issues with some of the games I've tried.
Is there any chance of a dx9 version of this, at some point in the distant future? Perhaps a dx9 migoto wrapper?

I generally use 3d for older games, as I can push 60fps in 3d.

There is always tridef, but this has issues with some of the games I've tried.

Posted 03/01/2017 01:28 PM   
[quote="davegl1234"]Is there any chance of a dx9 version of this, at some point in the distant future? Perhaps a dx9 migoto wrapper?[/quote] DarkStarSword had mentioned that he was looking into it. The problem is that the dx9 wrapper was made by Helix and he never released the code for it. But DarkStarSword has been knocking out a lot of other stuff in addition to working on quite a few other things. https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/819180/ edit: I found a post where he mentioned it, my above answer might not be entirely correct [url]https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/685657/3d-vision/3dmigoto-now-open-source-/post/4867160/#4867160[/url] [quote="davegl1234"]Is it possible to get half 4k resolution per eye using this method and a 4k Active 3D tv? Or is this for half 1080p per eye? Thanks![/quote] No it is not possible, HDMI 2.0 does not have the bandwidth for 4K at 120Hz. An active 4K 3D HDTV could achieve it via Checkerboard, but that would not be full resoltuion per eye either.
davegl1234 said:Is there any chance of a dx9 version of this, at some point in the distant future? Perhaps a dx9 migoto wrapper?


DarkStarSword had mentioned that he was looking into it. The problem is that the dx9 wrapper was made by Helix and he never released the code for it.

But DarkStarSword has been knocking out a lot of other stuff in addition to working on quite a few other things.

https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/819180/

edit: I found a post where he mentioned it, my above answer might not be entirely correct

https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/685657/3d-vision/3dmigoto-now-open-source-/post/4867160/#4867160

davegl1234 said:Is it possible to get half 4k resolution per eye using this method and a 4k Active 3D tv? Or is this for half 1080p per eye?

Thanks!


No it is not possible, HDMI 2.0 does not have the bandwidth for 4K at 120Hz.

An active 4K 3D HDTV could achieve it via Checkerboard, but that would not be full resoltuion per eye either.

Posted 03/01/2017 01:48 PM   
Does 3dmigoto work in Windows 10? I noticed another fellow a few pages back stating he couldn't get this 3d vision SBS/TAB wrapper working correctly in Windows 10. Has anyone else had better luck?
Does 3dmigoto work in Windows 10? I noticed another fellow a few pages back stating he couldn't get this 3d vision SBS/TAB wrapper working correctly in Windows 10. Has anyone else had better luck?

Posted 05/01/2017 09:18 PM   
1. Install 3d vision. 2. Set it for 3dvision discover (red and blue glasses) 3.Pass the 3dvision test 4. Test 3dvision to make sure it displays red and blue. 5. go to search (where it says "type here to search") on the desktop 6.type in "regedit" 7. in the registry, go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\NVIDIA Corporation\Global\Stereo3D 8.set "StereoAnaglyphType"=dword:00000000 9. set "LeftAnaglyphFilter"=dword:ffffff00 "RightAnaglyphFilter"=dword:ffffff00 this sets both eyes to the same color, and makes it clear. 10. Right click the stereo3d folder, go to "permissions", and navigate to "system". 11. Deny all sytem permissions. This stops 3dvision from changing the eye color. 12. Go back to the 3dvision test and use any resolution. It will look normal. This means it worked. If it works with different colors, you did something wrong. 13. Install the 3dmigoto mod for your favorite game, make sure you disable compatibility 3d mode (dx11), and switch to sbs or top and bottom. It should work at every resolution 3d discover mode supports. I should warn anyone doing this, by locking permissions, none of the 3dvision settings can be saved or adjusted, so that needs to be done first, or the permissions need to be unlocked if you want to change keyboard short cuts, etc.
1. Install 3d vision.
2. Set it for 3dvision discover (red and blue glasses)
3.Pass the 3dvision test
4. Test 3dvision to make sure it displays red and blue.
5. go to search (where it says "type here to search") on the desktop
6.type in "regedit"
7. in the registry, go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\NVIDIA Corporation\Global\Stereo3D

8.set "StereoAnaglyphType"=dword:00000000
9. set "LeftAnaglyphFilter"=dword:ffffff00 "RightAnaglyphFilter"=dword:ffffff00

this sets both eyes to the same color, and makes it clear.

10. Right click the stereo3d folder, go to "permissions", and navigate to "system".
11. Deny all sytem permissions. This stops 3dvision from changing the eye color.

12. Go back to the 3dvision test and use any resolution. It will look normal. This means it worked. If it works with different colors, you did something wrong.

13. Install the 3dmigoto mod for your favorite game, make sure you disable compatibility 3d mode (dx11), and switch to sbs or top and bottom.

It should work at every resolution 3d discover mode supports.


I should warn anyone doing this, by locking permissions, none of the 3dvision settings can be saved or adjusted, so that needs to be done first, or the permissions need to be unlocked if you want to change keyboard short cuts, etc.

Posted 05/18/2017 02:26 AM   
[quote="markbradley"]Does 3dmigoto work in Windows 10? I noticed another fellow a few pages back stating he couldn't get this 3d vision SBS/TAB wrapper working correctly in Windows 10. Has anyone else had better luck?[/quote] It works. I use win 10.
markbradley said:Does 3dmigoto work in Windows 10? I noticed another fellow a few pages back stating he couldn't get this 3d vision SBS/TAB wrapper working correctly in Windows 10. Has anyone else had better luck?


It works. I use win 10.

Posted 05/18/2017 02:27 AM   
Odd, I had tried this before on my Win7 rig and I was still getting a slight color shift with 3DMigoto and anytime I enabled the SBS Shaders on my Win10 rig it would crash... it was clear/doubled in-game right up until I toggled through the SBS Shaders and now it's fine, at least on my Win10 rig. If you don't want to lock the Registry, it can cause other issues like not being able to save screenshots, you can use the Anaglyph script I posted [url=https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/1003005/]here[/url]... I would've mentioned this in there if it had been working for me, not sure what changed.
Odd, I had tried this before on my Win7 rig and I was still getting a slight color shift with 3DMigoto and anytime I enabled the SBS Shaders on my Win10 rig it would crash... it was clear/doubled in-game right up until I toggled through the SBS Shaders and now it's fine, at least on my Win10 rig.

If you don't want to lock the Registry, it can cause other issues like not being able to save screenshots, you can use the Anaglyph script I posted here... I would've mentioned this in there if it had been working for me, not sure what changed.
Posted 05/18/2017 03:25 AM   
[quote="jayshaw"]1. Install 3d vision. 2. Set it for 3dvision discover (red and blue glasses) 3.Pass the 3dvision test 4. Test 3dvision to make sure it displays red and blue. 5. go to search (where it says "type here to search") on the desktop 6.type in "regedit" 7. in the registry, go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\NVIDIA Corporation\Global\Stereo3D 8.set "StereoAnaglyphType"=dword:00000000 9. set "LeftAnaglyphFilter"=dword:ffffff00 "RightAnaglyphFilter"=dword:ffffff00 this sets both eyes to the same color, and makes it clear. 10. Right click the stereo3d folder, go to "permissions", and navigate to "system". 11. Deny all sytem permissions. This stops 3dvision from changing the eye color. 12. Go back to the 3dvision test and use any resolution. It will look normal. This means it worked. If it works with different colors, you did something wrong. 13. Install the 3dmigoto mod for your favorite game, make sure you disable compatibility 3d mode (dx11), and switch to sbs or top and bottom. It should work at every resolution 3d discover mode supports. I should warn anyone doing this, by locking permissions, none of the 3dvision settings can be saved or adjusted, so that needs to be done first, or the permissions need to be unlocked if you want to change keyboard short cuts, etc. [/quote] Does 3D Discover work with DLP Link Glasses with this trick? Could this be used to circumvent the 3D TVPlay 1080p 24Hz limit or is the image quality of 3D Discover worse then SBS/TAB ?
jayshaw said:1. Install 3d vision.
2. Set it for 3dvision discover (red and blue glasses)
3.Pass the 3dvision test
4. Test 3dvision to make sure it displays red and blue.
5. go to search (where it says "type here to search") on the desktop
6.type in "regedit"
7. in the registry, go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\NVIDIA Corporation\Global\Stereo3D

8.set "StereoAnaglyphType"=dword:00000000
9. set "LeftAnaglyphFilter"=dword:ffffff00 "RightAnaglyphFilter"=dword:ffffff00

this sets both eyes to the same color, and makes it clear.

10. Right click the stereo3d folder, go to "permissions", and navigate to "system".
11. Deny all sytem permissions. This stops 3dvision from changing the eye color.

12. Go back to the 3dvision test and use any resolution. It will look normal. This means it worked. If it works with different colors, you did something wrong.

13. Install the 3dmigoto mod for your favorite game, make sure you disable compatibility 3d mode (dx11), and switch to sbs or top and bottom.

It should work at every resolution 3d discover mode supports.


I should warn anyone doing this, by locking permissions, none of the 3dvision settings can be saved or adjusted, so that needs to be done first, or the permissions need to be unlocked if you want to change keyboard short cuts, etc.


Does 3D Discover work with DLP Link Glasses with this trick?
Could this be used to circumvent the 3D TVPlay 1080p 24Hz limit or is the image quality of 3D Discover worse then SBS/TAB ?

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Posted 05/18/2017 08:36 PM   
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