Yeah, hope so then. Though I doubt it will be anything 3D related, as much as we'd all like it to be.
Though it is kind of surreal watching Nvidia squander their headstart on 3D while they wait for the Oculus Rift to come and take the market away from them.
Yeah, hope so then. Though I doubt it will be anything 3D related, as much as we'd all like it to be.
Though it is kind of surreal watching Nvidia squander their headstart on 3D while they wait for the Oculus Rift to come and take the market away from them.
I could maybe be convinced that BattleBox and 4K is their big thing.
I did find it surprising that 3D Vision was not mentioned as one of their NVidia centric technologies for BattleBox. I mean, [i]really[/i]. The publicist is excited for "percentage closer soft shadows", but cannot bother to mention 3D?
On the other hand, no mention of high frame-rate gaming either, which is quite a lot closer to being a big thing.
I could maybe be convinced that BattleBox and 4K is their big thing.
I did find it surprising that 3D Vision was not mentioned as one of their NVidia centric technologies for BattleBox. I mean, really. The publicist is excited for "percentage closer soft shadows", but cannot bother to mention 3D?
On the other hand, no mention of high frame-rate gaming either, which is quite a lot closer to being a big thing.
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I am really confused at why they are trying to advertise to the .001% of gamers. No jaggyness is good and all but 1080P with like 2xMS is pretty much perfect to me.
Multimonitor system sounds more interesting and is actually cheaper. This might be my own biased but with just a bit of AA[ms or whatever thats not FXAA] on 1080P is pretty much the point where I wont notice practically any difference in "jaggyness".... 4k is 4x 1080P's pixel thats a huge performance hit.
[/quote]I guess they're trying to grow the .001% into .002%, to grow their high-end customers and keep their prestige up. But I agree it seems a bit strange. Anyone who wants that high-end a PC probably doesn't need a pre-packaged one.
But then again, don't Alienware do quite well doing the same sort of thing?
I've never seen a 4K monitor in action, so I guess I can't really judge. But it does seem like a waste of PC power to me. I'd take a flawless 60fps or 120fps 1080p experience anyday than a choppy 40-50fps in 4K. And I can tell you that there are a lot of games that aren't gonna give you 60fps in 4k even with two Titans.
As for AA though, don't forget that jaggies are much less noticeable to us because of 3D. Jaggies used to be my enemy #1 pre-3D, and I used to go to all sorts of lengths to get the smoothest picture I could get, including smaa injectors, nvidia inspector tweaks, forcing 16xCSCSAAQWERTYwhatever in the nvidia drivers, and even running at a lower non-native res to blur up the image a bit. But now that I have 3Dvision, I just put on MSAAx2 or FXAA and I'm happy.
eqzitara said:------------------------------
I am really confused at why they are trying to advertise to the .001% of gamers. No jaggyness is good and all but 1080P with like 2xMS is pretty much perfect to me.
Multimonitor system sounds more interesting and is actually cheaper. This might be my own biased but with just a bit of AA[ms or whatever thats not FXAA] on 1080P is pretty much the point where I wont notice practically any difference in "jaggyness".... 4k is 4x 1080P's pixel thats a huge performance hit.
I guess they're trying to grow the .001% into .002%, to grow their high-end customers and keep their prestige up. But I agree it seems a bit strange. Anyone who wants that high-end a PC probably doesn't need a pre-packaged one.
But then again, don't Alienware do quite well doing the same sort of thing?
I've never seen a 4K monitor in action, so I guess I can't really judge. But it does seem like a waste of PC power to me. I'd take a flawless 60fps or 120fps 1080p experience anyday than a choppy 40-50fps in 4K. And I can tell you that there are a lot of games that aren't gonna give you 60fps in 4k even with two Titans.
As for AA though, don't forget that jaggies are much less noticeable to us because of 3D. Jaggies used to be my enemy #1 pre-3D, and I used to go to all sorts of lengths to get the smoothest picture I could get, including smaa injectors, nvidia inspector tweaks, forcing 16xCSCSAAQWERTYwhatever in the nvidia drivers, and even running at a lower non-native res to blur up the image a bit. But now that I have 3Dvision, I just put on MSAAx2 or FXAA and I'm happy.
To hype this battlebox, I mean have they gone total retard... Allmost none have the money for it maybe 0.001 percent of the gamers.
Come on Nvidia give us something real as for the gamers that have the money and want a rig like this I am sure they more then gladely build it themself, heh just go SLI Titan or whatever.
This just stinks, it's a joke give us VR or GTFO!
To hype this battlebox, I mean have they gone total retard... Allmost none have the money for it maybe 0.001 percent of the gamers.
Come on Nvidia give us something real as for the gamers that have the money and want a rig like this I am sure they more then gladely build it themself, heh just go SLI Titan or whatever.
Is 4K television even ready for movies ?
4K televisions being sold still came with the hdmi 1.4 port which means max 30 frames at that resolution also is the hdmi port on NVidia card is also hdmi 1.4 .
With the current video cards and the price of 4K televisions I think it will take 3 to 5 years before the average pc gamer is ready for 4K.
let's just hope that this isn't what the big announcement is or what every game wants.
4K televisions being sold still came with the hdmi 1.4 port which means max 30 frames at that resolution also is the hdmi port on NVidia card is also hdmi 1.4 .
With the current video cards and the price of 4K televisions I think it will take 3 to 5 years before the average pc gamer is ready for 4K.
let's just hope that this isn't what the big announcement is or what every game wants.
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Actually, I've just had a look at the battlebox system builder. Kinda cool - you can totally customise all the parts, including cases, colour schemes, LEDs, cooling, etc. etc. Seems like a pretty well made service.
I guess it's intended for people who want a kickarse PC to start the next generation off with a bang - they have the money, but don't necessarily have the knowhow or desire to build it themselves. People who want to have a sports car, but don't fancy the idea of getting all dirty in the garage. I'm sure such a demographic exists, no matter how small.
I guess in a way it tries to achieve what Steam Machines are trying to: catering to the "PC gaming would be great if it wasn't so needlessly complicated" crowd.
But yeah, with no 3Dvision - not even as an option - the whole thing is a bit absurd. I guess there's nothing stopping people buying a BattleBox PC and then getting 3Dvision separately on their own (ignoring the whole 4K angle), though its absence in the Battlebox program pretty much confirms that Nvidia's care factor for 3D is zero.
Pretty silly, considering that the whole world is moving towards 3D (though most of them don't know it yet). I think a lot of people will get a taste for 3D with the Oculus Rift, though will be disappointed by the Rift's limitations, and will switch to regular 3D as a result. If Nvidia knew what they were doing, they'd be waiting with a net to catch those people.
Actually, I've just had a look at the battlebox system builder. Kinda cool - you can totally customise all the parts, including cases, colour schemes, LEDs, cooling, etc. etc. Seems like a pretty well made service.
I guess it's intended for people who want a kickarse PC to start the next generation off with a bang - they have the money, but don't necessarily have the knowhow or desire to build it themselves. People who want to have a sports car, but don't fancy the idea of getting all dirty in the garage. I'm sure such a demographic exists, no matter how small.
I guess in a way it tries to achieve what Steam Machines are trying to: catering to the "PC gaming would be great if it wasn't so needlessly complicated" crowd.
But yeah, with no 3Dvision - not even as an option - the whole thing is a bit absurd. I guess there's nothing stopping people buying a BattleBox PC and then getting 3Dvision separately on their own (ignoring the whole 4K angle), though its absence in the Battlebox program pretty much confirms that Nvidia's care factor for 3D is zero.
Pretty silly, considering that the whole world is moving towards 3D (though most of them don't know it yet). I think a lot of people will get a taste for 3D with the Oculus Rift, though will be disappointed by the Rift's limitations, and will switch to regular 3D as a result. If Nvidia knew what they were doing, they'd be waiting with a net to catch those people.
[quote="zig11727"]Is 4K television even ready for movies ?
[/quote]
Movies have been shot in higher than 4K resolutions since the dawn of time, the certainly aren't a 1080p standard by and stretch.
[quote="Cookybiscuit"][quote="zig11727"]Is 4K television even ready for movies ?
[/quote]
Movies have been shot in higher than 4K resolutions since the dawn of time, the certainly aren't a 1080p standard by and stretch. [/quote]
Yes I agree movies are not bound to 1080P but the current interfaces are limited and I don't see it happening till hdmi 2.0 is a standard.
Yeah I saw that they should come out with it today so lets just hope it's VR and nothing else.
If it's something else I say it once again, GTFO nvidia ..LOL
Yeah I saw that they should come out with it today so lets just hope it's VR and nothing else.
If it's something else I say it once again, GTFO nvidia ..LOL
Darn, this will be happening just as I start work. I'll have to sneak a web surf in or wait until after.
Here's hoping that *something* 3D is part of it or even mentioned as an option.
Heh guru3d has twitch live stream from the event. RIght now nvidia is showing partership games and what they add to the games. Arkham origins slide for example mentioned txaa, hbao+ and some other stuff, BUT NO MENTION of the 3d vision support. Thats sad that they dont even mention it even though its 3d vision ready.
Heh guru3d has twitch live stream from the event. RIght now nvidia is showing partership games and what they add to the games. Arkham origins slide for example mentioned txaa, hbao+ and some other stuff, BUT NO MENTION of the 3d vision support. Thats sad that they dont even mention it even though its 3d vision ready.
[quote="Volnaiskra"]Actually, I've just had a look at the battlebox system builder. Kinda cool - you can totally customise all the parts, including cases, colour schemes, LEDs, cooling, etc. etc. Seems like a pretty well made service.
I guess it's intended for people who want a kickarse PC to start the next generation off with a bang - they have the money, but don't necessarily have the knowhow or desire to build it themselves. People who want to have a sports car, but don't fancy the idea of getting all dirty in the garage. I'm sure such a demographic exists, no matter how small.
I guess in a way it tries to achieve what Steam Machines are trying to: catering to the "PC gaming would be great if it wasn't so needlessly complicated" crowd.
But yeah, with no 3Dvision - not even as an option - the whole thing is a bit absurd. I guess there's nothing stopping people buying a BattleBox PC and then getting 3Dvision separately on their own (ignoring the whole 4K angle), though its absence in the Battlebox program pretty much confirms that Nvidia's care factor for 3D is zero.
Pretty silly, considering that the whole world is moving towards 3D (though most of them don't know it yet). I think a lot of people will get a taste for 3D with the Oculus Rift, though will be disappointed by the Rift's limitations, and will switch to regular 3D as a result. If Nvidia knew what they were doing, they'd be waiting with a net to catch those people.[/quote]
I just "built" my dream Battlebox PC, and it cost $19,650, so maybe next year after a bit of busking in Covent Garden and robbing the rich folk on their way into the Royal Opera House... More seriously I will note that 3D Vision Monitors and 3D Vision Kits were included in the options (I went to the Origin site) and in my $20k setup they cost a few pennies in change in comparison ;-)
Volnaiskra said:Actually, I've just had a look at the battlebox system builder. Kinda cool - you can totally customise all the parts, including cases, colour schemes, LEDs, cooling, etc. etc. Seems like a pretty well made service.
I guess it's intended for people who want a kickarse PC to start the next generation off with a bang - they have the money, but don't necessarily have the knowhow or desire to build it themselves. People who want to have a sports car, but don't fancy the idea of getting all dirty in the garage. I'm sure such a demographic exists, no matter how small.
I guess in a way it tries to achieve what Steam Machines are trying to: catering to the "PC gaming would be great if it wasn't so needlessly complicated" crowd.
But yeah, with no 3Dvision - not even as an option - the whole thing is a bit absurd. I guess there's nothing stopping people buying a BattleBox PC and then getting 3Dvision separately on their own (ignoring the whole 4K angle), though its absence in the Battlebox program pretty much confirms that Nvidia's care factor for 3D is zero.
Pretty silly, considering that the whole world is moving towards 3D (though most of them don't know it yet). I think a lot of people will get a taste for 3D with the Oculus Rift, though will be disappointed by the Rift's limitations, and will switch to regular 3D as a result. If Nvidia knew what they were doing, they'd be waiting with a net to catch those people.
I just "built" my dream Battlebox PC, and it cost $19,650, so maybe next year after a bit of busking in Covent Garden and robbing the rich folk on their way into the Royal Opera House... More seriously I will note that 3D Vision Monitors and 3D Vision Kits were included in the options (I went to the Origin site) and in my $20k setup they cost a few pennies in change in comparison ;-)
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I figure that even with an awesome case, three Titans, high-end mobo and CPU, 4k monitor and a few good peripherals, it'll only reach about 10k. Where on earth did the other 9k come from?!!
I'm relieved to hear that 3dvision at least features though.
I figure that even with an awesome case, three Titans, high-end mobo and CPU, 4k monitor and a few good peripherals, it'll only reach about 10k. Where on earth did the other 9k come from?!!
I'm relieved to hear that 3dvision at least features though.
Though it is kind of surreal watching Nvidia squander their headstart on 3D while they wait for the Oculus Rift to come and take the market away from them.
I did find it surprising that 3D Vision was not mentioned as one of their NVidia centric technologies for BattleBox. I mean, really. The publicist is excited for "percentage closer soft shadows", but cannot bother to mention 3D?
On the other hand, no mention of high frame-rate gaming either, which is quite a lot closer to being a big thing.
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But then again, don't Alienware do quite well doing the same sort of thing?
I've never seen a 4K monitor in action, so I guess I can't really judge. But it does seem like a waste of PC power to me. I'd take a flawless 60fps or 120fps 1080p experience anyday than a choppy 40-50fps in 4K. And I can tell you that there are a lot of games that aren't gonna give you 60fps in 4k even with two Titans.
As for AA though, don't forget that jaggies are much less noticeable to us because of 3D. Jaggies used to be my enemy #1 pre-3D, and I used to go to all sorts of lengths to get the smoothest picture I could get, including smaa injectors, nvidia inspector tweaks, forcing 16xCSCSAAQWERTYwhatever in the nvidia drivers, and even running at a lower non-native res to blur up the image a bit. But now that I have 3Dvision, I just put on MSAAx2 or FXAA and I'm happy.
Come on Nvidia give us something real as for the gamers that have the money and want a rig like this I am sure they more then gladely build it themself, heh just go SLI Titan or whatever.
This just stinks, it's a joke give us VR or GTFO!
4K televisions being sold still came with the hdmi 1.4 port which means max 30 frames at that resolution also is the hdmi port on NVidia card is also hdmi 1.4 .
With the current video cards and the price of 4K televisions I think it will take 3 to 5 years before the average pc gamer is ready for 4K.
let's just hope that this isn't what the big announcement is or what every game wants.
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I guess it's intended for people who want a kickarse PC to start the next generation off with a bang - they have the money, but don't necessarily have the knowhow or desire to build it themselves. People who want to have a sports car, but don't fancy the idea of getting all dirty in the garage. I'm sure such a demographic exists, no matter how small.
I guess in a way it tries to achieve what Steam Machines are trying to: catering to the "PC gaming would be great if it wasn't so needlessly complicated" crowd.
But yeah, with no 3Dvision - not even as an option - the whole thing is a bit absurd. I guess there's nothing stopping people buying a BattleBox PC and then getting 3Dvision separately on their own (ignoring the whole 4K angle), though its absence in the Battlebox program pretty much confirms that Nvidia's care factor for 3D is zero.
Pretty silly, considering that the whole world is moving towards 3D (though most of them don't know it yet). I think a lot of people will get a taste for 3D with the Oculus Rift, though will be disappointed by the Rift's limitations, and will switch to regular 3D as a result. If Nvidia knew what they were doing, they'd be waiting with a net to catch those people.
Movies have been shot in higher than 4K resolutions since the dawn of time, the certainly aren't a 1080p standard by and stretch.
Yes I agree movies are not bound to 1080P but the current interfaces are limited and I don't see it happening till hdmi 2.0 is a standard.
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Today at 10:00 AM EST I guess we will find out.
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If it's something else I say it once again, GTFO nvidia ..LOL
Here's hoping that *something* 3D is part of it or even mentioned as an option.
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I just "built" my dream Battlebox PC, and it cost $19,650, so maybe next year after a bit of busking in Covent Garden and robbing the rich folk on their way into the Royal Opera House... More seriously I will note that 3D Vision Monitors and 3D Vision Kits were included in the options (I went to the Origin site) and in my $20k setup they cost a few pennies in change in comparison ;-)
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I figure that even with an awesome case, three Titans, high-end mobo and CPU, 4k monitor and a few good peripherals, it'll only reach about 10k. Where on earth did the other 9k come from?!!
I'm relieved to hear that 3dvision at least features though.