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Know this has been topiced lately but ..... 12 months ago several brick & mortar stores, Fry's Microcenter, etc, still had the 3d Vision 2 kit in stock and on their shelves. Today I don't think a single store in the entire US has a kit on their shelf. 6 months ago Amazon (largest net seller) had 124 3d Vision 2 kits(new) available for purchase. Today Amazon does not have any for sale. I know a few here said that have been assured by Nvidia that the 3d vision is still being produced. I don't believe it. Someone recently looking for a kit found a company in England(?) that had 8 units coming in. Those units were probably in a warehouse in the Filippines. So someone looking for the kit finally found one and they still have to wait to get it. Anyone else see something wrong here? I have been buying electronics of all types for close to 40 years. Whenever a product is this difficult to purchase after its been on the market for a bit.... it is being discontinued. I don't care what Nvidia says, I don't think its all of a sudden a demand run, and I don't believe its a temporary shortage. Sure, you will see a few trickle to market new here and there but that's not how NVidia sells their merchandise. That's because I believe there is no more production. So what does this mean for fans of 3d vision? For one, it will never grow and thrive without new adoptors. No new kits, no new fans. Sad. Really sad. If we need a replacement in a few months, we may have to buy a used scratched, cheetohs-crusted set off ebay. Again sad. I surely hope I am wrong but it looks nvidia is letting 3d vision die on the vine. What a waste of awesome technology for gamers. In all my years of gaming, it is probably the single best gaming upgrade we ever made - better than 3dfx video accelerator, better than Pentium upgrade, better than when we got a 21in monitor when they first came out. I pray that the tens of thousands of 3d vision enthusiasts can keep it alive. I cannot code but the community will have my support, spiritually and otherwise if needed. If someone confirms, not from a phone rep but higher NVidia source, that the kit is still being produced please post it. In the meantime, God bless the Guardians of 3d.
Know this has been topiced lately but .....

12 months ago several brick & mortar stores, Fry's Microcenter, etc, still had the 3d Vision 2 kit in stock and on their shelves.
Today I don't think a single store in the entire US has a kit on their shelf.

6 months ago Amazon (largest net seller) had 124 3d Vision 2 kits(new) available for purchase.
Today Amazon does not have any for sale.

I know a few here said that have been assured by Nvidia that the 3d vision is still being produced. I don't believe it. Someone recently looking for a kit found a company in England(?) that had 8 units coming in. Those units were probably in a warehouse in the Filippines. So someone looking for the kit finally found one and they still have to wait to get it. Anyone else see something wrong here?

I have been buying electronics of all types for close to 40 years. Whenever a product is this difficult to purchase after its been on the market for a bit.... it is being discontinued. I don't care what Nvidia says, I don't think its all of a sudden a demand run, and I don't believe its a temporary shortage. Sure, you will see a few trickle to market new here and there but that's not how NVidia sells their merchandise. That's because I believe there is no more production.

So what does this mean for fans of 3d vision? For one, it will never grow and thrive without new adoptors. No new kits, no new fans. Sad. Really sad. If we need a replacement in a few months, we may have to buy a used scratched, cheetohs-crusted set off ebay. Again sad.

I surely hope I am wrong but it looks nvidia is letting 3d vision die on the vine. What a waste of awesome technology for gamers. In all my years of gaming, it is probably the single best gaming upgrade we ever made - better than 3dfx video accelerator, better than Pentium upgrade, better than when we got a 21in monitor when they first came out.

I pray that the tens of thousands of 3d vision enthusiasts can keep it alive. I cannot code but the community will have my support, spiritually and otherwise if needed.

If someone confirms, not from a phone rep but higher NVidia source, that the kit is still being produced please post it.

In the meantime, God bless the Guardians of 3d.

#1
Posted 12/02/2014 12:09 AM   
The kit is still being produced, there was a hiccup with the supply which has now been resolved. Should be seeing the opposite of your observations within the next few weeks. Is has not been discontinued and has no plans currently to be discontinued.
The kit is still being produced, there was a hiccup with the supply which has now been resolved. Should be seeing the opposite of your observations within the next few weeks.

Is has not been discontinued and has no plans currently to be discontinued.

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Posted 12/02/2014 12:18 AM   
Well thank you Josh for the quick response. I thought you guys were giving up on the best gaming tech ever. Ihis is great news indeed. Thank you again.
Well thank you Josh for the quick response. I thought you guys were giving up on the best gaming tech ever.

Ihis is great news indeed. Thank you again.

#3
Posted 12/02/2014 12:35 AM   
What if they did gave up? Anyone seriously believe they would announce it? What for? It wouldn't make them money, more likely the opposite. There is no question if Nvidia gave up on 3D, their "support" for it speaks for it. I'd stick to the facts instead of PR talk, I'm afraid we're dealing with here. That said - I hope this somehow is true and in 2015 there will be available kit in store in every European country and all the others, where 3D Vision was sold before. But this actually might be true about the 3DV kits production. Finger's crossed it is, and Nvidia proves me wrong (and I'm saying sorry for being sceptical). I'll remain sceptical until I see some miracles - let say, full 3D Vision ready info in GTA V at launch day, and resolved problems that Nvidia considers not important at present, contrary to the consumers. If I had to put my money on some scenerio, I'd put mine on the one, in which NV doesn't care at all about 3D Vision, but won't officially state that, since what they got, will be used in VR and will help promote the VR. Admitting publicly "[i]we don't give a ... about the people who buy our 3D hardware so much, that we can do nothing about the win 8.1 users for half a year after it's release or even longer[/i]" would give bad PR when they'll start promoting VR functions. So - they will keep producing the glasses, they will do something to pretend they care and work hard for 3D support (one person working hard one day a month doesn't count), just so they can prevail to the VR era, where they can use what they did back in the days, when they actually worked on it. Please don't consider me a troll or something, just because I have this opinion about Nvidia's attitude towards gamers. I supported 3D and praised it everywhere I could since 2002, on many forums, I persuade people to buy NV hardware, heck, I just helped another person today to buy 3D Vision Kit 2, since everyday I search our local biggest auction site and when I see there even ARE 3DV2 kits available, I shout it in threads about monitors with the support, urging people to try it. I still think it's worth it. It probably isn't a fault of people who work on it. Nor the one's who arre moderating this forum. It is a management's fault, or board of directors, or whoever makes the decisions while seeing only $$$ and being totally ignorant of the wonderful technology they sit on, and to fact how much their decisions hurt everybody around, including themselves, since the money they "save" on cutting the 3D support expenses, could easily return to them. But they choose to cut the costs, which hurts gaming industry, games, gamers and finally themselves, financially or PR wise.
What if they did gave up? Anyone seriously believe they would announce it? What for? It wouldn't make them money, more likely the opposite. There is no question if Nvidia gave up on 3D, their "support" for it speaks for it.
I'd stick to the facts instead of PR talk, I'm afraid we're dealing with here.

That said - I hope this somehow is true and in 2015 there will be available kit in store in every European country and all the others, where 3D Vision was sold before.
But this actually might be true about the 3DV kits production. Finger's crossed it is, and Nvidia proves me wrong (and I'm saying sorry for being sceptical).

I'll remain sceptical until I see some miracles - let say, full 3D Vision ready info in GTA V at launch day, and resolved problems that Nvidia considers not important at present, contrary to the consumers.

If I had to put my money on some scenerio, I'd put mine on the one, in which NV doesn't care at all about 3D Vision, but won't officially state that, since what they got, will be used in VR and will help promote the VR. Admitting publicly "we don't give a ... about the people who buy our 3D hardware so much, that we can do nothing about the win 8.1 users for half a year after it's release or even longer" would give bad PR when they'll start promoting VR functions.
So - they will keep producing the glasses, they will do something to pretend they care and work hard for 3D support (one person working hard one day a month doesn't count), just so they can prevail to the VR era, where they can use what they did back in the days, when they actually worked on it.

Please don't consider me a troll or something, just because I have this opinion about Nvidia's attitude towards gamers.
I supported 3D and praised it everywhere I could since 2002, on many forums, I persuade people to buy NV hardware, heck, I just helped another person today to buy 3D Vision Kit 2, since everyday I search our local biggest auction site and when I see there even ARE 3DV2 kits available, I shout it in threads about monitors with the support, urging people to try it. I still think it's worth it.
It probably isn't a fault of people who work on it. Nor the one's who arre moderating this forum. It is a management's fault, or board of directors, or whoever makes the decisions while seeing only $$$ and being totally ignorant of the wonderful technology they sit on, and to fact how much their decisions hurt everybody around, including themselves, since the money they "save" on cutting the 3D support expenses, could easily return to them. But they choose to cut the costs, which hurts gaming industry, games, gamers and finally themselves, financially or PR wise.

#4
Posted 12/02/2014 01:44 AM   
As they say, the proof is in the pudding. Lets see what happens in the next few weeks with the kits and see if they are on the market again. Your points are very valid RonsonPL and I agree with most it. Lets see.
As they say, the proof is in the pudding. Lets see what happens in the next few weeks with the kits and see if they are on the market again.

Your points are very valid RonsonPL and I agree with most it. Lets see.

#5
Posted 12/02/2014 02:24 AM   
Let me say something that's been in the back of my mind for a long time now - I believe there's two mindsets to gaming, and a lot of people fall almost completely on one side, and then a varying degree reach out towards the other (this will make sense in a second). There's people who play games to engage their imagination, and thus use it while gaming, and there's some that just see the mechanics of the game as *the game*. The latter tend to just see a series of hurdles, and the fun for them is tackling these hurdles as effectively (and often as quickly) as possible. This seems to be a more competitive mindset, which suggests they care more how they come off to others, and will be influenced more by mass opinions.. like "3D is just a gimmick". I think mechanics is important to everyone to at least some degree, but some are really drawn to games that have very deep mechanics that they can obsess over (aka: Blizzard games). So meanwhile, while I'm holding off my playthrough for DA:I till they get the ability to freaking walk using the keyboard implemented (a game as rich as that, I want it to be as immersive as possible), others would think I'm insane for not playing it now. Besides, walking just slows down your progress, right? I could go into far more detail concerning all this, but I think everyone gets the picture. 3D Vision is important to us, but the fact that it requires separate glasses, a special monitor, etc etc is just getting in the way of the actual gaming for a lot of other people, and that's just how they're wired. I do believe that when the day comes that 3D is hassle free and just the norm (it WILL eventually happen) then it will be a lot more attractive to everyone. But anyway, it is what it is.
Let me say something that's been in the back of my mind for a long time now - I believe there's two mindsets to gaming, and a lot of people fall almost completely on one side, and then a varying degree reach out towards the other (this will make sense in a second).

There's people who play games to engage their imagination, and thus use it while gaming, and there's some that just see the mechanics of the game as *the game*. The latter tend to just see a series of hurdles, and the fun for them is tackling these hurdles as effectively (and often as quickly) as possible. This seems to be a more competitive mindset, which suggests they care more how they come off to others, and will be influenced more by mass opinions.. like "3D is just a gimmick".

I think mechanics is important to everyone to at least some degree, but some are really drawn to games that have very deep mechanics that they can obsess over (aka: Blizzard games). So meanwhile, while I'm holding off my playthrough for DA:I till they get the ability to freaking walk using the keyboard implemented (a game as rich as that, I want it to be as immersive as possible), others would think I'm insane for not playing it now. Besides, walking just slows down your progress, right?

I could go into far more detail concerning all this, but I think everyone gets the picture. 3D Vision is important to us, but the fact that it requires separate glasses, a special monitor, etc etc is just getting in the way of the actual gaming for a lot of other people, and that's just how they're wired.

I do believe that when the day comes that 3D is hassle free and just the norm (it WILL eventually happen) then it will be a lot more attractive to everyone. But anyway, it is what it is.

#6
Posted 12/03/2014 11:46 PM   
I believe Nvida has not had the patience this product required to hit its critical mass. They appear to have given up too soon on seriously awesome gaming technology. This product needs longer than 3-4 years to hit its stride for the following reason: When 3d vision first came out in 2009/2010 it costs around 1500 dollars to make a computer 3d vision ready with the proper video cards (sli was pretty much required because single cards were not fast enough) and 3d vision monitor. This deterred many early adopters (like myself) because of the price, sli setup requirement, and the fact I never saw the tech kiosked in a store anywhere. Today, when Nvidia appears to be packing up the 3d tents, you can turn a computer into a rockin 3d vision machine for less than 600 dollars. So the product has hit it's critical price point for mass adoption just as Nvidia is clearly retreating in its support of it. Look how many games today come 3d vision certified and the aformention vanishing supply of kits. Sadness ensues if you google early reviews of the 3d vision sets and how awed the reviewers were with the tech and how it was going to "change gaming forever". It still can! By all accounts, almost every serious gamer that has seen 3d vision has loved it. Most have purchased if it was within their means. At a 600 dollar entry point, with millions of gamers and growing, many new gamers would go 3d vision if they were exposed to it just like we were by associates and friends who were the early adopters. Vulcan78 while NVidia appears to have waffled and possibly deserted the tech, a handful of talented, selfless and altogether awesome individuals that populate this forum have kept the embers of the 3d vision fire alive. These fiercely loyal Guardians of 3d keep the tech alive at the very moment it needs them most. If you peruse the forum for a bit, you will know who they are, just like I found. Tens if not hundreds of thousands of 3d gamers all over the world know who they are and quietly salute, admire and love them. The happiness and joy they help bring to our lives goes unmeasured. God bless the Guardians of 3d.
I believe Nvida has not had the patience this product required to hit its critical mass. They appear to have given up too soon on seriously awesome gaming technology. This product needs longer than 3-4 years to hit its stride for the following reason:

When 3d vision first came out in 2009/2010 it costs around 1500 dollars to make a computer 3d vision ready with the proper video cards (sli was pretty much required because single cards were not fast enough) and 3d vision monitor. This deterred many early adopters (like myself) because of the price, sli setup requirement, and the fact I never saw the tech kiosked in a store anywhere.

Today, when Nvidia appears to be packing up the 3d tents, you can turn a computer into a rockin 3d vision machine for less than 600 dollars. So the product has hit it's critical price point for mass adoption just as Nvidia is clearly retreating in its support of it. Look how many games today come 3d vision certified and the aformention vanishing supply of kits.

Sadness ensues if you google early reviews of the 3d vision sets and how awed the reviewers were with the tech and how it was going to "change gaming forever". It still can! By all accounts, almost every serious gamer that has seen 3d vision has loved it. Most have purchased if it was within their means. At a 600 dollar entry point, with millions of gamers and growing, many new gamers would go 3d vision if they were exposed to it just like we were by associates and friends who were the early adopters.

Vulcan78 while NVidia appears to have waffled and possibly deserted the tech, a handful of talented, selfless and altogether awesome individuals that populate this forum have kept the embers of the 3d vision fire alive. These fiercely loyal Guardians of 3d keep the tech alive at the very moment it needs them most. If you peruse the forum for a bit, you will know who they are, just like I found. Tens if not hundreds of thousands of 3d gamers all over the world know who they are and quietly salute, admire and love them. The happiness and joy they help bring to our lives goes unmeasured.

God bless the Guardians of 3d.

#7
Posted 12/04/2014 12:48 AM   
[quote="vulcan78"]you'll never want to go back to 2D ever again[/quote]EVER!!! :)
vulcan78 said:you'll never want to go back to 2D ever again
EVER!!! :)
#8
Posted 12/04/2014 01:04 AM   
I think the reason it hasn't taken off is three fold. 1. Require a pretty powerful computer with SLI in many cases to have a good experience. (max detail 60fps) 2. Its really hard to demonstrate without trying it yourself. 3. People have an inaccurate view on what it is for games due to the lackluster experience for the most part in movies. As for myself. I can officially never go back.. If 3d dies, I will cease to be a gamer...
I think the reason it hasn't taken off is three fold.

1. Require a pretty powerful computer with SLI in many cases to have a good experience. (max detail 60fps)
2. Its really hard to demonstrate without trying it yourself.
3. People have an inaccurate view on what it is for games due to the lackluster experience for the most part in movies.

As for myself. I can officially never go back.. If 3d dies, I will cease to be a gamer...

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Posted 12/04/2014 01:29 AM   
[quote="necropants"]If 3d dies, I will cease to be a gamer...[/quote]I don't know if I'd go that far, even if I did play my entire 3D backlog ... I could easily pull out my NES and start working on my backlog for it, then move on to the SNES, Genesis, SegaCD, 3do, etc. until 3D makes another come back ... pretty sure I have a big enough 2D only backlog to outlast a few more 'deaths of 3D'. Lol. :)
necropants said:If 3d dies, I will cease to be a gamer...
I don't know if I'd go that far, even if I did play my entire 3D backlog ... I could easily pull out my NES and start working on my backlog for it, then move on to the SNES, Genesis, SegaCD, 3do, etc. until 3D makes another come back ... pretty sure I have a big enough 2D only backlog to outlast a few more 'deaths of 3D'. Lol. :)
#10
Posted 12/04/2014 01:42 AM   
[quote="Calistoga"]Sadness ensues if you google early reviews of the 3d vision sets and how awed the reviewers were with the tech and how it was going to "change gaming forever". [/quote] Really? I honestly never saw a 100% positive review of 3D Vision, it was very frustrating. The guy at HardOCP hated it. The guy who runs BluesNews dislikes 3D in general (he makes a snide comment anytime he posts anything 3D related). Most other reviews I read stated something along the lines of, yes this is neat but... it might give you head aches, strain your eyes, etc etc... I do see positive *user* comments from time to time in various forums though. And I can live without and keep gaming. Had to do it once before during the gap of Nvidia's old openGL stereo driver to 3D Vision's release. Seemed *much* harder to do back then, but now I have a nice high rez IPS monitor that gives me a nice 2D alternative. Still, 3D is something that's irreplaceable. You can only dull the sting of missing it in a given game.
Calistoga said:Sadness ensues if you google early reviews of the 3d vision sets and how awed the reviewers were with the tech and how it was going to "change gaming forever".


Really? I honestly never saw a 100% positive review of 3D Vision, it was very frustrating. The guy at HardOCP hated it. The guy who runs BluesNews dislikes 3D in general (he makes a snide comment anytime he posts anything 3D related). Most other reviews I read stated something along the lines of, yes this is neat but... it might give you head aches, strain your eyes, etc etc...

I do see positive *user* comments from time to time in various forums though.

And I can live without and keep gaming. Had to do it once before during the gap of Nvidia's old openGL stereo driver to 3D Vision's release. Seemed *much* harder to do back then, but now I have a nice high rez IPS monitor that gives me a nice 2D alternative. Still, 3D is something that's irreplaceable. You can only dull the sting of missing it in a given game.

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Posted 12/04/2014 02:44 AM   
Negative reviews? Really? The are just the first ones I came across. All positive. http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2397070,00.asp http://archive.benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=276&Itemid=58 http://www.cnet.com/news/nvidia-3d-vision-2-review-great-performance-slim-availability/ http://www.trustedreviews.com/nvidia-3d-vision-gaming-system-review http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/nvidia-geforce-3d-vision-review,1.html
3D Blu Ray is one of the things I *really* like to use my 3D Vision set up for, yet everyone at work hates 3D movies. With you on everything you just wrote.
3D Blu Ray is one of the things I *really* like to use my 3D Vision set up for, yet everyone at work hates 3D movies.

With you on everything you just wrote.

#13
Posted 12/04/2014 04:10 AM   
Dudes, seriously, did you even read what Josh wrote? Please allow me to quote: [quote="Josh@NVIDIA"]The kit is still being produced, there was a hiccup with the supply which has now been resolved. Should be seeing the opposite of your observations within the next few weeks. Is has not been discontinued and has no plans currently to be discontinued. [/quote] If you want to keep straight up calling him a liar, that's your prerogative. But I really wish you wouldn't. For me as an engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be. No wait, it's half full. There were some kits out in the world, in stores and online. Now they are all gone. That means that people bought them, and we have more 3Ders in the world. Enough demand to strip the shelves of remaining kits is a good thing. One thing I've noticed on this particular forum- it's always doom and gloom. It's like everyone [i]enjoys [/i]the idea that it's dead and the wallow in despair.
Dudes, seriously, did you even read what Josh wrote? Please allow me to quote:

Josh@NVIDIA said:The kit is still being produced, there was a hiccup with the supply which has now been resolved. Should be seeing the opposite of your observations within the next few weeks.

Is has not been discontinued and has no plans currently to be discontinued.

If you want to keep straight up calling him a liar, that's your prerogative. But I really wish you wouldn't.


For me as an engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be. No wait, it's half full.

There were some kits out in the world, in stores and online. Now they are all gone. That means that people bought them, and we have more 3Ders in the world.

Enough demand to strip the shelves of remaining kits is a good thing.


One thing I've noticed on this particular forum- it's always doom and gloom. It's like everyone enjoys the idea that it's dead and the wallow in despair.

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#14
Posted 12/04/2014 04:38 AM   
I thought it was great and pleasantly surprised he answered my post. If you carefully read the posts, I do not see wallowing in despair but a passion for a product and technology that we love and appears to be in trouble. And bo3b, as one of the mentioned Guardians of 3d, I appreciate your passion and work.
I thought it was great and pleasantly surprised he answered my post. If you carefully read the posts, I do not see wallowing in despair but a passion for a product and technology that we love and appears to be in trouble.

And bo3b, as one of the mentioned Guardians of 3d, I appreciate your passion and work.

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Posted 12/04/2014 05:00 AM   
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