A small step for the man, a big step for 3D's world ;)
This post to make people aware that nothing is free in life and also to help this community, at least I hope. I wonder how many gifts are sent to different creators of fix. In my opinion, if we collected all the different gifts, we would not even get a monthly salary. Nvidia or ATI was only there to raise money and nothing else, we can never count on them to have a perfect 3d. The only way we have is to give our person. I'm nil in programming, I'm not rich but I can always serve. I think that people active on these different fix should not even have to buy their game. We should be able to put a system in place so that these people can work on a lot of game and according to their envy without having to spend the Less penny. Send them donations, do not hesitate. Defend yourself from a game, or wait for the balances and buy in two for the price of one. Offer the second one. Nvidia made shit by making us shimmer this extraordinary 3d, making us believe that this 3d was going to be wonderful .... in the end, we bought their equipment and they are now absent. It's the same for publishers, do not buy games blindly, do not fatten these so-called AAA game publishers or all is only powder in the eyes. The best exemple i have in mind, it's the serie of call of duty, in ten years, they will not have advanced but Their game will cost a salary ... lol. The worst thing is that it is still the same game for 20 years without great improvements or originality, it's just more beautiful and more impressive ... It is the same thing in cinema, dialogues are more and more null, stories more than banal, but the visual throws and magic operates .. people blinded throw themselves on it. On the other hand, do it for you, your goal is to move the thing forward. Do not do it to have this or that fix. I gave 60 euros this month and I do not expect anything in return. I already had a lot on helix site. A good word, good day, I'm sorry but I'm nil in English too, google translate is my best friend here but it's not the most faithful!
This post to make people aware that nothing is free in life and also to help this community, at least I hope. I wonder how many gifts are sent to different creators of fix. In my opinion, if we collected all the different gifts, we would not even get a monthly salary.

Nvidia or ATI was only there to raise money and nothing else, we can never count on them to have a perfect 3d. The only way we have is to give our person. I'm nil in programming, I'm not rich but I can always serve. I think that people active on these different fix should not even have to buy their game. We should be able to put a system in place so that these people can work on a lot of game and according to their envy without having to spend the Less penny.


Send them donations, do not hesitate. Defend yourself from a game, or wait for the balances and buy in two for the price of one. Offer the second one. Nvidia made shit by making us shimmer this extraordinary 3d, making us believe that this 3d was going to be wonderful .... in the end, we bought their equipment and they are now absent. It's the same for publishers, do not buy games blindly, do not fatten these so-called AAA game publishers or all is only powder in the eyes.

The best exemple i have in mind, it's the serie of call of duty, in ten years, they will not have advanced but Their game will cost a salary ... lol. The worst thing is that it is still the same game for 20 years without great improvements or originality, it's just more beautiful and more impressive ...
It is the same thing in cinema, dialogues are more and more null, stories more than banal, but the visual throws and magic operates .. people blinded throw themselves on it.

On the other hand, do it for you, your goal is to move the thing forward. Do not do it to have this or that fix. I gave 60 euros this month and I do not expect anything in return. I already had a lot on helix site.

A good word, good day,


I'm sorry but I'm nil in English too, google translate is my best friend here but it's not the most faithful!

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#1
Posted 08/23/2017 08:06 AM   
PEOPLE ARE LAZY. thats why they buy consoles and just throw their self on sad telling and effects. Easy pickens. But ass we all know nothing really matter to you if you have not worked your ass off. Pc Gaming is for people enjoy games, not consume them. NVIDIA propably had good meanings in the begging but it has propably changed when investors came Into play. Thats when things usually change to shit. Making money out of nothing attends to turn the business to Shit valued at zero, as ventually you are making money out of money with just a hint of the great idea what was at the beginning. Ps. I aint saying consoles are only Bad thing, but majority of users buy then just because they are easy and cheap. And i have done too. But never again. I have too Little time and pc and especially 3D vision keeps me occupied untill end. Hail to SHADER HACKERS
PEOPLE ARE LAZY.
thats why they buy consoles and just throw their self on sad telling and effects. Easy pickens.
But ass we all know nothing really matter to you if you have not worked your ass off.
Pc Gaming is for people enjoy games, not consume them.
NVIDIA propably had good meanings in the begging but it has propably changed when investors came
Into play. Thats when things usually change to shit. Making money out of nothing attends to turn the business to
Shit valued at zero, as ventually you are making money out of money with just a hint of the great idea what was at the beginning.

Ps. I aint saying consoles are only Bad thing, but majority of users buy then just because they are easy and cheap.
And i have done too. But never again. I have too Little time and pc and especially 3D vision keeps me occupied untill end.

Hail to SHADER HACKERS

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#2
Posted 08/24/2017 05:18 AM   
I am satisfied to read at least an An interesting answer:) Help people who work for you, it is to help us ourself especially if we want to continue to play in 3D. Let us put we the good questions, that it will take place when DSS, DHR, Helifax, Boeb, Sgsrules, PaulDusler, Flint Eastwood, Masterotaku, Th3_N3philim, Mana_84, Eqzitara, DJ_RK, Mike_ar69, TsaebehT, 4EverAwake, ddr0390 ... etc ... will leave? (Saddened for people whom I forget) Everybody knows the answer, I think ... return of the 2D
I am satisfied to read at least an An interesting answer:)

Help people who work for you, it is to help us ourself especially if we want to continue to play in 3D.

Let us put we the good questions, that it will take place when DSS, DHR, Helifax, Boeb, Sgsrules, PaulDusler, Flint Eastwood, Masterotaku, Th3_N3philim, Mana_84, Eqzitara, DJ_RK, Mike_ar69, TsaebehT, 4EverAwake, ddr0390 ... etc ... will leave? (Saddened for people whom I forget)

Everybody knows the answer, I think ... return of the 2D

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#3
Posted 08/24/2017 10:30 AM   
I'm not one of the highly skilled fixers, but I will never leave, I think (unless I'm suddenly blind, lose an eye or die). If someday all new games are DX12/Vulkan, no one makes a wrapper for them and essentially all DX11 or lower games are fixed, then I won't have anything else to do. About the general opinion of people on 3D, it's really strange to see someone saying "why play in 3D? Who does it nowadays?", as if it isn't something that inherently improves games.
I'm not one of the highly skilled fixers, but I will never leave, I think (unless I'm suddenly blind, lose an eye or die). If someday all new games are DX12/Vulkan, no one makes a wrapper for them and essentially all DX11 or lower games are fixed, then I won't have anything else to do.

About the general opinion of people on 3D, it's really strange to see someone saying "why play in 3D? Who does it nowadays?", as if it isn't something that inherently improves games.

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#4
Posted 08/24/2017 10:48 AM   
It's generally ignorance. Most people simply don't know, and their perception is skewered by the 3d is a Gimmick crowd, or what we have been subjected to by holywood with it's often terrible 3d implementation in movies which promotes this thought train. I realize the vast majority of people will believe the very first thing that is told to them about a subject and it's very hard to get them to open their minds to the alternative, after. It also doesn't help that as Mataloholic says. People sadly are lazy. I even have a friend who owns 3d vision. admits he thinks it's amazing but only plays path of exile with it because he admits he is lazy and generally if a game wont work out of the box he just wont bother. it's sad, but I feel this kind of thing is common with people. One thing I know for certain is every single person without exception that I have showed my 3d setup to has been blown away to the point I will often hear things like. "how the hell is this not popular." or "I do not see graphics getting any better than this.." Unfortunately if this mind set does not change (and there seems to be no reason for it too on the horizon in terms of tech. Nvidia will only promote things that are financially feasible for them and this latest 3d resurgence has been written off as not worthy by the mainstream. Personally I cannot stand playing games in 2d any more, I feel almost blind. If this technology dies I will have no more reason to give Nvidia my money.
It's generally ignorance. Most people simply don't know, and their perception is skewered by the 3d is a Gimmick crowd, or what we have been subjected to by holywood with it's often terrible 3d implementation in movies which promotes this thought train.

I realize the vast majority of people will believe the very first thing that is told to them about a subject and it's very hard to get them to open their minds to the alternative, after. It also doesn't help that as Mataloholic says. People sadly are lazy.

I even have a friend who owns 3d vision. admits he thinks it's amazing but only plays path of exile with it because he admits he is lazy and generally if a game wont work out of the box he just wont bother. it's sad, but I feel this kind of thing is common with people.

One thing I know for certain is every single person without exception that I have showed my 3d setup to has been blown away to the point I will often hear things like. "how the hell is this not popular." or "I do not see graphics getting any better than this.."

Unfortunately if this mind set does not change (and there seems to be no reason for it too on the horizon in terms of tech. Nvidia will only promote things that are financially feasible for them and this latest 3d resurgence has been written off as not worthy by the mainstream.

Personally I cannot stand playing games in 2d any more, I feel almost blind. If this technology dies I will have no more reason to give Nvidia my money.

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#5
Posted 08/24/2017 11:31 AM   
I have played these few years with my dual projectors setup at 1080p per eye and not ONCE i have thoughted my self, man I would love to have more resolution. BUT only when Gaming in 3D. I think that tells a Little about how awsome the image quality is. Today i was even thinking should i put a ficking helixmod.blogspot URL on my work vechile just to fucking EDUCATE people. Allthough propably most of would just say man you a re crazy, I have Also thinked about getting a tattoo saying "Fuck spotify, support Artists" I hate the fact people are paying to a fucking operator for down right shit quality compared to original.
I have played these few years with my dual projectors setup at 1080p per eye and not ONCE i have thoughted my self, man
I would love to have more resolution. BUT only when Gaming in 3D.
I think that tells a Little about how awsome the image quality is.

Today i was even thinking should i put a ficking helixmod.blogspot URL on my work vechile just to fucking EDUCATE people.
Allthough propably most of would just say man you a re crazy,

I have Also thinked about getting a tattoo saying "Fuck spotify, support Artists"
I hate the fact people are paying to a fucking operator for down right shit quality compared to original.

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#6
Posted 08/25/2017 03:51 PM   
The reality of it is folks...us 3D Vision folks are really just a small cult following. All we have is us...3D Vision just wasn't marketed as it should have been at release. With limited accessibility with a costly requirement of 3D compliant monitor and or 3d emiiter.
The reality of it is folks...us 3D Vision folks are really just a small cult following.
All we have is us...3D Vision just wasn't marketed as it should have been at release.
With limited accessibility with a costly requirement of 3D compliant monitor and or 3d emiiter.

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#7
Posted 08/25/2017 04:31 PM   
Since 5 years I tell everyone on Steam, in my reviews, in the forums how great 3D vision is. I donated plenty of money, I enjoyed hundreds of games in 3D and still there are so many more to play. But, also ower community is getting older, the tech is getting older. The end is not here. But one day there won't be 3D vision games anymore. 5 years, maybe? I am not pessimistic, just understand how people develop, because at the moment I don't see a lot of new people coming to the club. I never learned shader hacking, was happy when I could apply perfectly the fixes or found solutions by tweaking inis myself. But as a 3D adherent consumer I will continue to stay around here for a bit more time.
Since 5 years I tell everyone on Steam, in my reviews, in the forums how great 3D vision is. I donated plenty of money, I enjoyed hundreds of games in 3D and still there are so many more to play. But, also ower community is getting older, the tech is getting older. The end is not here. But one day there won't be 3D vision games anymore. 5 years, maybe? I am not pessimistic, just understand how people develop, because at the moment I don't see a lot of new people coming to the club. I never learned shader hacking, was happy when I could apply perfectly the fixes or found solutions by tweaking inis myself. But as a 3D adherent consumer I will continue to stay around here for a bit more time.

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#8
Posted 08/25/2017 07:04 PM   
When everything jumps to Dx12 exclusively then we will have a problem. But look how long it took for dx11 to be common
When everything jumps to Dx12 exclusively then we will have a problem. But look how long it took for dx11 to be common

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#9
Posted 08/26/2017 02:53 AM   
If Nvidia fix the CPU Bottleneck issue, then it's possible that they may add DX12 support too. I know it's a very little possibility, but hope is good.
If Nvidia fix the CPU Bottleneck issue, then it's possible that they may add DX12 support too. I know it's a very little possibility, but hope is good.

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#10
Posted 08/26/2017 03:53 AM   
Proper 3D Vision absolutely is NOT a gimmick. Playing The Witcher 3 in 3D Vision, there is no going back, I can't even look at 2D Witcher 3 any more. I don't understand why 3D Vision and DX 12 don't work together? I really really wish NGreedia would step up their support for 3D Vision, it still has a sizeable following that can only grow as the biggest barrier to adoption used to be GPU compute power, but the newer GPU's have solved that problem, at least with slightly older titles, such as Batman: AC which only gets the utilization on my 1080 Ti up to 40% completely maxed out, you used to not be able to do this and this is why 3D Vision initially failed, it was just too expensive to run. I can run everything in my library with an overclocked 1080 Ti at 60 FPS - 2560x1440 with only a few compromises (like not using HBAO+ in ROTTR or Hairworks in TW3 for example). Three years ago I would have needed 3x 780 Ti SLI to accomplish this or just last year 2x 980 Ti. The problem I'm actually seeing now are weird scene dependent CPU bottlnecks, I get them in nearly every game now (downtown Los Santos in GTA 5, Geothermal Valley in ROTTR, Crach an Crait's Dinner Party in TW3, nearly everywhere in MGS: PP for example). So now the problem isn't solely on the GPU side, the CPU related bottlenecks induced by 3D Vision are becoming more apparent now and that's something the we need to make as much noise as we can with NGreedia.
Proper 3D Vision absolutely is NOT a gimmick. Playing The Witcher 3 in 3D Vision, there is no going back, I can't even look at 2D Witcher 3 any more.

I don't understand why 3D Vision and DX 12 don't work together? I really really wish NGreedia would step up their support for 3D Vision, it still has a sizeable following that can only grow as the biggest barrier to adoption used to be GPU compute power, but the newer GPU's have solved that problem, at least with slightly older titles, such as Batman: AC which only gets the utilization on my 1080 Ti up to 40% completely maxed out, you used to not be able to do this and this is why 3D Vision initially failed, it was just too expensive to run.

I can run everything in my library with an overclocked 1080 Ti at 60 FPS - 2560x1440 with only a few compromises (like not using HBAO+ in ROTTR or Hairworks in TW3 for example). Three years ago I would have needed 3x 780 Ti SLI to accomplish this or just last year 2x 980 Ti.

The problem I'm actually seeing now are weird scene dependent CPU bottlnecks, I get them in nearly every game now (downtown Los Santos in GTA 5, Geothermal Valley in ROTTR, Crach an Crait's Dinner Party in TW3, nearly everywhere in MGS: PP for example).

So now the problem isn't solely on the GPU side, the CPU related bottlenecks induced by 3D Vision are becoming more apparent now and that's something the we need to make as much noise as we can with NGreedia.

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Posted 08/26/2017 07:44 PM   
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