World of Warcraft Legion
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PVP is a mess in this game ATM, not that it's ever been anything top notch, but there's always been fun to be had. Anyhow, those of you playing or those of you that used to play will get a good laugh out of this video. It's an old video that you've probably seen before, but the guy did great with the new sub-titles. BTW, Holinka is the guy at WoW in charge of PVP if you do not know. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZDzMbTRV6E&feature=youtu.be
PVP is a mess in this game ATM, not that it's ever been anything top notch, but there's always been fun to be had.

Anyhow, those of you playing or those of you that used to play will get a good laugh out of this video. It's an old video that you've probably seen before, but the guy did great with the new sub-titles.

BTW, Holinka is the guy at WoW in charge of PVP if you do not know.

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#31
Posted 09/20/2016 01:27 PM   
Hey D-Man, I'm not big on PVP, but I'm having a blast with Legion. That is , I would have a blast if they had not totally messed up the mob health bars. I't murder on my eyes, it's bordering on a serious eye health issue now, yet I cannot stop playing. I've tried posting the issue on the Blizzard forums for a while now, but I always run into an "404 error" or something, and my post is never recorded. I don't expect anyone to fix it here, in our community, because I think that would be quite difficult and not many modders are playing this game. But me and the wife, we sometimes relapse like now, for a few months, and while the excitement lasts it's simply the best - if it's in 3D. If GTA V is the most impresive visually and story-wise, WOW is the most complex and expansive game ever built. It just speaks a lot for the game, when you can remember being part of this fantasy world for more than 10 bloody years. A guy on chat today was saying that he had his character since before he was married, and now has two kids :-) It breaks my heart to think how they messed it up. Apart from the skybox this game was perfect in 3D. Who knows, maybe they'll fix it, but I cannot even report it.
Hey D-Man,
I'm not big on PVP, but I'm having a blast with Legion.
That is , I would have a blast if they had not totally messed up the mob health bars. I't murder on my eyes, it's bordering on a serious eye health issue now, yet I cannot stop playing.

I've tried posting the issue on the Blizzard forums for a while now, but I always run into an "404 error" or something, and my post is never recorded.

I don't expect anyone to fix it here, in our community, because I think that would be quite difficult and not many modders are playing this game. But me and the wife, we sometimes relapse like now, for a few months, and while the excitement lasts it's simply the best - if it's in 3D. If GTA V is the most impresive visually and story-wise, WOW is the most complex and expansive game ever built. It just speaks a lot for the game, when you can remember being part of this fantasy world for more than 10 bloody years. A guy on chat today was saying that he had his character since before he was married, and now has two kids :-)

It breaks my heart to think how they messed it up. Apart from the skybox this game was perfect in 3D.
Who knows, maybe they'll fix it, but I cannot even report it.

#32
Posted 09/20/2016 05:06 PM   
Because of the auto API selector in WoW, 3DMigoto will not load. The game ends up being dx9 at 800x600, because those are the minimum settings. At launch, the game's queries go unanswered or something Odd about the error 404, you might try their 1-800 number.
Because of the auto API selector in WoW, 3DMigoto will not load. The game ends up being dx9 at 800x600, because those are the minimum settings. At launch, the game's queries go unanswered or something

Odd about the error 404, you might try their 1-800 number.

#33
Posted 09/20/2016 08:15 PM   
For anyone that quit WoW because of the Pathfinder achievements required to unlock flight, it seems that they nerfed the requirements somewhat. With the Tomb of Sargeras patch, flying can now be obtained. https://www.icy-veins.com/forums/topic/29297-how-to-unlock-legion-flying-update/ https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/news/20602170/patch-7-2-the-tomb-of-sargeras-now-live Looking at their forums, the game is still a mess and Holinka is still a fucktard. I miss PVP, but cheaters and Demon Hunters ruined it. Check out the new Warsong Scramble, looks fun, but Demon Hunters ruin it, just like they did the regular BGs. lol, just how are you supposed to stop this guy as he leaps over shit? Due to shitty class balance, screwy gear procurement, BG templates suck, World PVP blows due to Realm imbalances and gear discrepancies. PVP in WoW is sad and frustrating, no ty Blizz. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feZKOc5L4FY
For anyone that quit WoW because of the Pathfinder achievements required to unlock flight, it seems that they nerfed the requirements somewhat.

With the Tomb of Sargeras patch, flying can now be obtained.

https://www.icy-veins.com/forums/topic/29297-how-to-unlock-legion-flying-update/

https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/news/20602170/patch-7-2-the-tomb-of-sargeras-now-live

Looking at their forums, the game is still a mess and Holinka is still a fucktard.

I miss PVP, but cheaters and Demon Hunters ruined it.

Check out the new Warsong Scramble, looks fun, but Demon Hunters ruin it, just like they did the regular BGs. lol, just how are you supposed to stop this guy as he leaps over shit?


Due to shitty class balance, screwy gear procurement, BG templates suck, World PVP blows due to Realm imbalances and gear discrepancies. PVP in WoW is sad and frustrating, no ty Blizz.

#34
Posted 05/07/2017 02:50 AM   
Some of the new mounts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuPlbdPl3N8
Some of the new mounts

#35
Posted 05/16/2017 05:03 AM   
Just a heads up. 3dmigoto now appears to be working with the latest version. I do not have a subscription but I have done a quick dirty fix of the HUD and corrected some of the skyboxes in the starting area. Was playing around more for learning purposes really. * Software mouse appears to be broken and trying to use the 3dmigoto results in it simply not being there. (but appears even blizzards implementation does this when running 3d) * Water and shadows are still broken, I've had a go but haven't had any success here yet.
Just a heads up. 3dmigoto now appears to be working with the latest version.

I do not have a subscription but I have done a quick dirty fix of the HUD and corrected some of the skyboxes in the starting area. Was playing around more for learning purposes really.

* Software mouse appears to be broken and trying to use the 3dmigoto results in it simply not being there.
(but appears even blizzards implementation does this when running 3d)
* Water and shadows are still broken, I've had a go but haven't had any success here yet.

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#36
Posted 05/06/2018 02:50 AM   
Ughh, I used to love this game before it turned into a cesspool of shit. Tis a shame, because it has some absulutely awesome game mechanics, especially in Boss Encounters. I can't imagine how low the subscription base has sunk, when I quit playing over a year ago, servers world wide were being merged. Looking at the forums, nothing has changed. It's still very alt unfriendly, RNG is as terrible as ever, PVP still has bots/hackers/cheaters, PVE is still full of loot scamming Master Looters and travel is still the worst of any similar game. Not to mention that flying, one of the greatest things in WoW, is gated. Oh and all the fun toys/trinkets, have been nerfed so much that they do not bring the slightest bit of enjoyment that they once did. Anyhow, even just fixing the skybox would be well received by anyone still playing. I complained repeatedly on the forums, e-mails and in-game tickets about the 3D being borked, yet still an in-game option.
Ughh, I used to love this game before it turned into a cesspool of shit.

Tis a shame, because it has some absulutely awesome game mechanics, especially in Boss Encounters.

I can't imagine how low the subscription base has sunk, when I quit playing over a year ago, servers world wide were being merged.

Looking at the forums, nothing has changed. It's still very alt unfriendly, RNG is as terrible as ever, PVP still has bots/hackers/cheaters, PVE is still full of loot scamming Master Looters and travel is still the worst of any similar game. Not to mention that flying, one of the greatest things in WoW, is gated. Oh and all the fun toys/trinkets, have been nerfed so much that they do not bring the slightest bit of enjoyment that they once did.

Anyhow, even just fixing the skybox would be well received by anyone still playing. I complained repeatedly on the forums, e-mails and in-game tickets about the 3D being borked, yet still an in-game option.

#37
Posted 05/06/2018 08:28 AM   
Yeah, I'm an oldie so I was always more of a Everquest guy, never really got into WoW as it seemed like a more polished but also way more simplified version of EQ, which was also infamous for insane boss mechanics and raids. The brief time I played WOW in the past I came to the conclusion I was better off just queuing up for dungeons to max level, so I backed out pretty quick. But as i'm on my journey of learning I figured it was a good candidate to play around with as it was mostly working. then I saw the subscription $24 NZD a month! that's honestly ridiculous. That said, skyboxes ended up being easy enough, and if I can make some progress on the shadows/water and fix the Software Mouse it will be back to 3dvision ready. (until next time they break it.)
Yeah, I'm an oldie so I was always more of a Everquest guy, never really got into WoW as it seemed like a more polished but also way more simplified version of EQ, which was also infamous for insane boss mechanics and raids.

The brief time I played WOW in the past I came to the conclusion I was better off just queuing up for dungeons to max level, so I backed out pretty quick.

But as i'm on my journey of learning I figured it was a good candidate to play around with as it was mostly working. then I saw the subscription $24 NZD a month! that's honestly ridiculous.

That said, skyboxes ended up being easy enough, and if I can make some progress on the shadows/water and fix the Software Mouse it will be back to 3dvision ready. (until next time they break it.)

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#38
Posted 05/06/2018 10:49 AM   
I wish I could help, but my brain doesn't process the ins and outs of the wrapper. Recently, I posted a bunch of links in [url=https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/1047064/]this thread[/url] that might help For shadows you might start with the video from DSS, if you haven't watched it already. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GssPDoVtQfA
I wish I could help, but my brain doesn't process the ins and outs of the wrapper.

Recently, I posted a bunch of links in this thread that might help

For shadows you might start with the video from DSS, if you haven't watched it already.

#39
Posted 05/06/2018 11:01 AM   
Yeah I was watching that and going through the documentation suggested last night. It seems actually identifying the right shader is difficult in itself and it's definitely the case here. If you turn shadows to low and liquid to fair it's near perfect again, but I need to find a solution for the software mouse then I might just release it as is, until I make more progress. But I have a feeling they have done something really dumb with the software cursor because even without 3dmigoto it still doesn't show when turned on. =/
Yeah I was watching that and going through the documentation suggested last night. It seems actually identifying the right shader is difficult in itself and it's definitely the case here.

If you turn shadows to low and liquid to fair it's near perfect again, but I need to find a solution for the software mouse then I might just release it as is, until I make more progress. But I have a feeling they have done something really dumb with the software cursor because even without 3dmigoto it still doesn't show when turned on. =/

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#40
Posted 05/06/2018 11:40 PM   
Yah, WoW does a lot of weird things in their graphics. Partly because a large portion of their user base play on really crappy PCs. They tried to implement their own version of Polygon and god what a mess, it was near impossible to get anything to look half way decent. They fudged around with their new LOD settings for months and never made them acceptable in my opinion. What was worse, they disabled all of the console commands that would allow a player to override their shitty in-game settings. As a result, whenever playing in 2D, I opted to use their OpenGL rendering. It was a bit rough around the edges because it wasn't an official implementation and didn't get the resources needed to make it more viable. But overall, the FPS and visuals were better using it.
Yah, WoW does a lot of weird things in their graphics. Partly because a large portion of their user base play on really crappy PCs. They tried to implement their own version of Polygon and god what a mess, it was near impossible to get anything to look half way decent. They fudged around with their new LOD settings for months and never made them acceptable in my opinion. What was worse, they disabled all of the console commands that would allow a player to override their shitty in-game settings.

As a result, whenever playing in 2D, I opted to use their OpenGL rendering. It was a bit rough around the edges because it wasn't an official implementation and didn't get the resources needed to make it more viable. But overall, the FPS and visuals were better using it.

#41
Posted 05/07/2018 07:23 AM   
This is great news, Necropants, ty very much ! I've been waiting for this too long, so i'm nearly retired )) If only it could be fixed mb i would go back to WoW. D-Man, though I still agree with you, - WoW is still one of the greatest games ever, despite issues. [quote="Necropants"] That said, skyboxes ended up being easy enough, and if I can make some progress on the shadows/water and fix the Software Mouse it will be back to 3dvision ready. (until next time they break it.)[/quote] "the next time", actually, is near, in august when expansion comes out, so they will definitely break something as they always do once per an expansion (adding/changing/modifying stuff in engine or graphics)
This is great news, Necropants, ty very much ! I've been waiting for this too long, so i'm nearly retired )) If only it could be fixed mb i would go back to WoW. D-Man, though I still agree with you, - WoW is still one of the greatest games ever, despite issues.

Necropants said:

That said, skyboxes ended up being easy enough, and if I can make some progress on the shadows/water and fix the Software Mouse it will be back to 3dvision ready. (until next time they break it.)


"the next time", actually, is near, in august when expansion comes out, so they will definitely break something as they always do once per an expansion (adding/changing/modifying stuff in engine or graphics)

#42
Posted 05/07/2018 12:58 PM   
As it stands I would be willing to release a work in progress but I haven't had any luck fixing the mouse cursor so it's not really playable until that happens. Pretty annoying because I was sure it was working natively by blizzard in the past.
As it stands I would be willing to release a work in progress but I haven't had any luck fixing the mouse cursor so it's not really playable until that happens. Pretty annoying because I was sure it was working natively by blizzard in the past.

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#43
Posted 05/08/2018 08:33 AM   
If it was a few months ago, when they sent me some free game time, I would have gladly ported you around on my mage to some other areas where the skybox/effects/planets and moons are messed up. I don't know if you are playing Horde or Alliance, but the sky in Stormwind was the most borked of the vanilla area. For the cursor, it might only work in dx9, maybe even dx10. It would be awesome to see it all working in dx11. If you can weed through their hurdles and get the graphics dialed in, they have really great shadows on high and the game can look really good even though there is no detail to anything. When they upgraded the races, I was really hoping for an improvement of some type. Unfortunately, it was still low res characters with little definition. When I see a button in a game, I like to see a button. Not some flat non bumpy circle drawn on a shirt, made to resemble a button.
If it was a few months ago, when they sent me some free game time, I would have gladly ported you around on my mage to some other areas where the skybox/effects/planets and moons are messed up.

I don't know if you are playing Horde or Alliance, but the sky in Stormwind was the most borked of the vanilla area.

For the cursor, it might only work in dx9, maybe even dx10.

It would be awesome to see it all working in dx11. If you can weed through their hurdles and get the graphics dialed in, they have really great shadows on high and the game can look really good even though there is no detail to anything. When they upgraded the races, I was really hoping for an improvement of some type. Unfortunately, it was still low res characters with little definition.

When I see a button in a game, I like to see a button. Not some flat non bumpy circle drawn on a shirt, made to resemble a button.

#44
Posted 05/08/2018 10:24 AM   
Yeah well one of the reasons I nominated this game to look at was because the graphics are relatively simple, and I could log in up to level 30, and it was mostly working. I have a feeling I have fixed sky-boxes globally now, but I could be wrong. Only other issue is I think some of the torch lights are at the wrong depth. I don't have a sub so I can't see a lot of the areas, not sure how that works in terms of porting. If I fix the cursor I'll upload what I have done here. just do not believe it's playable at all with a screen depth cursor.
Yeah well one of the reasons I nominated this game to look at was because the graphics are relatively simple, and I could log in up to level 30, and it was mostly working. I have a feeling I have fixed sky-boxes globally now, but I could be wrong.

Only other issue is I think some of the torch lights are at the wrong depth.

I don't have a sub so I can't see a lot of the areas, not sure how that works in terms of porting. If I fix the cursor I'll upload what I have done here. just do not believe it's playable at all with a screen depth cursor.

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#45
Posted 05/08/2018 11:09 AM   
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