3d vision issue. FPS drops in all games
Hello. I encountered a problem with 3d vision I didn't use it for some time. The emitter was unplugged. Yesterday I plugged it back in. It was installed. I enabled 3d vision in nvidia control panel. Test application runs smoothly. But now, when in all the games I tried (Tomb Raider, Thief, Battlefield 4) fps drops dramatically. With stereoscopic effects on or off, it doesn't matter. Looks like 10 or even 5 fps. When I unplug the 3d vision emitter everything is smooth again. Also, if I run the games in windowed mode there is no problems (but stereoscopic effect doesn't work) The nVidia drivers are up to date. I tried to reinstall it, tried the previous version. It is no use. I don't know what else to try. :( I have GeForce 660Ti. The OS is Windows 8.1 64 bit. PS. When I run the benchmark tool in Tomb Raider it shows me more than 40 fps. But it doesn't look like that at all. :(
Hello. I encountered a problem with 3d vision
I didn't use it for some time. The emitter was unplugged. Yesterday I plugged it back in. It was installed. I enabled 3d vision in nvidia control panel. Test application runs smoothly.
But now, when in all the games I tried (Tomb Raider, Thief, Battlefield 4) fps drops dramatically. With stereoscopic effects on or off, it doesn't matter. Looks like 10 or even 5 fps. When I unplug the 3d vision emitter everything is smooth again. Also, if I run the games in windowed mode there is no problems (but stereoscopic effect doesn't work)

The nVidia drivers are up to date. I tried to reinstall it, tried the previous version. It is no use.
I don't know what else to try. :(

I have GeForce 660Ti. The OS is Windows 8.1 64 bit.

PS. When I run the benchmark tool in Tomb Raider it shows me more than 40 fps. But it doesn't look like that at all. :(

#1
Posted 03/20/2014 07:23 AM   
Have you tried running it with absolutely all other programs, Fraps, etc. disabled to see if it's a conflict?
Have you tried running it with absolutely all other programs, Fraps, etc. disabled to see if it's a conflict?

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#2
Posted 03/20/2014 09:28 AM   
Yeah. I rebooted the PC and run only the game. Still bad
Yeah. I rebooted the PC and run only the game. Still bad

#3
Posted 03/20/2014 10:12 AM   
Hey guys, I also have this issue. Whenever I enable stereoscopic 3D, even if I dont have 3D turned on in game (because the game looks horrible in 3D) the game has a much lower FPS than if I had turned off stereoscopic 3D. I am referring mostly to BF4, but ive noticed this in a lot of other games as well.
Hey guys, I also have this issue. Whenever I enable stereoscopic 3D, even if I dont have 3D turned on in game (because the game looks horrible in 3D) the game has a much lower FPS than if I had turned off stereoscopic 3D.

I am referring mostly to BF4, but ive noticed this in a lot of other games as well.

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#4
Posted 03/20/2014 11:34 AM   
[quote="sack_"]Hey guys, I also have this issue. Whenever I enable stereoscopic 3D, even if I dont have 3D turned on in game (because the game looks horrible in 3D) the game has a much lower FPS than if I had turned off stereoscopic 3D. I am referring mostly to BF4, but ive noticed this in a lot of other games as well. [/quote] Wow, you've got 2 GTX 660s and it does that? What FPS are you getting? :D Hope you don't say some crazy low number or I am screwed too... :D *joke* just say...
sack_ said:Hey guys, I also have this issue. Whenever I enable stereoscopic 3D, even if I dont have 3D turned on in game (because the game looks horrible in 3D) the game has a much lower FPS than if I had turned off stereoscopic 3D.

I am referring mostly to BF4, but ive noticed this in a lot of other games as well.


Wow, you've got 2 GTX 660s and it does that? What FPS are you getting?

:D Hope you don't say some crazy low number or I am screwed too... :D *joke* just say...

#5
Posted 03/20/2014 01:54 PM   
Isn't this a Windows 8.1 issue? Pretty sure there's been plenty of people mentioning it. As far as a slight drop in performance with 'Stereoscopic 3D' enabled in the control panel, that's perfectly normal, you can use the shortcuts in the Start Menu, use key binds, scripts, etc. to toggle it on and off if it's that big of an issue. Basically in order for 3D to be 'toggle-able' in-game it has to be running already, so the performance hit is it doing part of the work and when you toggle 3D on it's doing all the work ... but it's always running.
Isn't this a Windows 8.1 issue? Pretty sure there's been plenty of people mentioning it.

As far as a slight drop in performance with 'Stereoscopic 3D' enabled in the control panel, that's perfectly normal, you can use the shortcuts in the Start Menu, use key binds, scripts, etc. to toggle it on and off if it's that big of an issue. Basically in order for 3D to be 'toggle-able' in-game it has to be running already, so the performance hit is it doing part of the work and when you toggle 3D on it's doing all the work ... but it's always running.
#6
Posted 03/20/2014 02:16 PM   
This is 100%, without-a-doubt a Windows 8.1 issue. Lots of people have posted about it, there are no known solutions beyond downgrading to Windows 8. I've seen this even on several clean Win 8.1 installs. Save yourself the hassle of trying to resolve it, and get to reinstalling Win8.
This is 100%, without-a-doubt a Windows 8.1 issue. Lots of people have posted about it, there are no known solutions beyond downgrading to Windows 8. I've seen this even on several clean Win 8.1 installs. Save yourself the hassle of trying to resolve it, and get to reinstalling Win8.

#7
Posted 03/20/2014 04:26 PM   
Oh :( Too bad. I hope nVidia will find the solution.
Oh :( Too bad. I hope nVidia will find the solution.

#8
Posted 03/20/2014 05:45 PM   
[quote="Pirateguybrush"]This is 100%, without-a-doubt a Windows 8.1 issue. Lots of people have posted about it, there are no known solutions beyond downgrading to Windows 8. I've seen this even on several clean Win 8.1 installs. Save yourself the hassle of trying to resolve it, and get to reinstalling Win8.[/quote] I have managed to sort of solve this by doing two things. First, I force vsync off in the driver (via NVIDIA control panel - manage 3D settings or via NVIDIA Inspector). Second, I use frame limiter to limit frames to 60 (can be done via RTSS which is included with Afterburner or Precision or via NVIDIA Inspector). This makes a huge difference for me for some games like Tomb Raider and GRID 2. I have been waiting for a fix from either NVIDIA or MS for a while now and am about to give up. My only personal debate is do I go back to Win 8.0 or Win 7.
Pirateguybrush said:This is 100%, without-a-doubt a Windows 8.1 issue. Lots of people have posted about it, there are no known solutions beyond downgrading to Windows 8. I've seen this even on several clean Win 8.1 installs. Save yourself the hassle of trying to resolve it, and get to reinstalling Win8.


I have managed to sort of solve this by doing two things. First, I force vsync off in the driver (via NVIDIA control panel - manage 3D settings or via NVIDIA Inspector). Second, I use frame limiter to limit frames to 60 (can be done via RTSS which is included with Afterburner or Precision or via NVIDIA Inspector).

This makes a huge difference for me for some games like Tomb Raider and GRID 2. I have been waiting for a fix from either NVIDIA or MS for a while now and am about to give up. My only personal debate is do I go back to Win 8.0 or Win 7.

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#9
Posted 03/21/2014 01:03 AM   
[quote="WhiteSkyMage"][quote="sack_"]Hey guys, I also have this issue. Whenever I enable stereoscopic 3D, even if I dont have 3D turned on in game (because the game looks horrible in 3D) the game has a much lower FPS than if I had turned off stereoscopic 3D. I am referring mostly to BF4, but ive noticed this in a lot of other games as well. [/quote] Wow, you've got 2 GTX 660s and it does that? What FPS are you getting? :D Hope you don't say some crazy low number or I am screwed too... :D *joke* just say...[/quote] I normally get around 120 FPS with 3D disabled. And when I turn it back on, it will usually drop down to 70-80. Which is still pretty high. But thats a pretty gross percentage of FPS that gets thrown away just by having a checkbox checked. And I might have to take your advise Pirateguybrush, going back to win8 might be my only option. Definitely annoying this happens though. Especially since it seems to be an ongoing thing that doesnt get fixed up with the new driver releases.
WhiteSkyMage said:
sack_ said:Hey guys, I also have this issue. Whenever I enable stereoscopic 3D, even if I dont have 3D turned on in game (because the game looks horrible in 3D) the game has a much lower FPS than if I had turned off stereoscopic 3D.

I am referring mostly to BF4, but ive noticed this in a lot of other games as well.


Wow, you've got 2 GTX 660s and it does that? What FPS are you getting?

:D Hope you don't say some crazy low number or I am screwed too... :D *joke* just say...


I normally get around 120 FPS with 3D disabled. And when I turn it back on, it will usually drop down to 70-80. Which is still pretty high. But thats a pretty gross percentage of FPS that gets thrown away just by having a checkbox checked.

And I might have to take your advise Pirateguybrush, going back to win8 might be my only option. Definitely annoying this happens though. Especially since it seems to be an ongoing thing that doesnt get fixed up with the new driver releases.

Windows 8 64bit | i7 4770K | ASRock Z87-EXTREME3 | NVIDIA 660 SLI | 8 GB RAM | Alienware AW2310 Monitor

#10
Posted 03/21/2014 07:30 AM   
[quote="sack_"] I normally get around 120 FPS with 3D disabled. And when I turn it back on, it will usually drop down to 70-80. Which is still pretty high. But thats a pretty gross percentage of FPS that gets thrown away just by having a checkbox checked. [/quote] While there are a number of differing opinions on this anything less than 50% performance hit when enabling 3DVision is nothing to complain about in my book. On my rig enabling 3DVision in some titles might see as little as 30% FPS drop over the 2D performance and other titles it might be as much as 70%. There are also differing opinions about forcing vsync on. Personally I usually set 'adaptive vsync' at the NCP level and disable it (if available) at the application/game level. Then again I've refused to buy into the WIN8 coolaid and use WIN7 on my gaming rig. Given the well reported issues many S3D gamers have had with WIN8.1 I see no reason to use it or WIN8 until such time a "must play" title requires it.
sack_ said:

I normally get around 120 FPS with 3D disabled. And when I turn it back on, it will usually drop down to 70-80. Which is still pretty high. But thats a pretty gross percentage of FPS that gets thrown away just by having a checkbox checked.


While there are a number of differing opinions on this anything less than 50% performance hit when enabling 3DVision is nothing to complain about in my book. On my rig enabling 3DVision in some titles might see as little as 30% FPS drop over the 2D performance and other titles it might be as much as 70%.

There are also differing opinions about forcing vsync on. Personally I usually set 'adaptive vsync' at the NCP level and disable it (if available) at the application/game level. Then again I've refused to buy into the WIN8 coolaid and use WIN7 on my gaming rig. Given the well reported issues many S3D gamers have had with WIN8.1 I see no reason to use it or WIN8 until such time a "must play" title requires it.

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#11
Posted 03/21/2014 01:04 PM   
[quote="Jason20910"] I have managed to sort of solve this by doing two things. First, I force vsync off in the driver (via NVIDIA control panel - manage 3D settings or via NVIDIA Inspector). Second, I use frame limiter to limit frames to 60 (can be done via RTSS which is included with Afterburner or Precision or via NVIDIA Inspector).[/quote] Unfortenatly it didn't help :(
Jason20910 said:

I have managed to sort of solve this by doing two things. First, I force vsync off in the driver (via NVIDIA control panel - manage 3D settings or via NVIDIA Inspector). Second, I use frame limiter to limit frames to 60 (can be done via RTSS which is included with Afterburner or Precision or via NVIDIA Inspector).


Unfortenatly it didn't help :(

#12
Posted 03/21/2014 06:44 PM   
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