Well, this is only a topic to remember me what is the purpose of any game. Of course, entertainment. So when I stop to observe what is happening nowadays, I realize that sometimes playing with 3D is more a disvantage that an advantage. Yes, 3D si aesthetically nice, but the requirements that it demands and the disadvantages that it raises are enormous.
These days I am returning to amuse with games, only entering the Nvidia CP and selecting Stereo OFF. Yes, the 3D it is something totally psychological, when I get used to them I stop valuing them, but I have to support his negative consequences.
Probably the key is in becoming convinced to one itself of that he does not need 3D, and with it to enjoy fullly the same one ... and to wait to that the technology 3D really is available without so many penalty.
Well, this is only a topic to remember me what is the purpose of any game. Of course, entertainment. So when I stop to observe what is happening nowadays, I realize that sometimes playing with 3D is more a disvantage that an advantage. Yes, 3D si aesthetically nice, but the requirements that it demands and the disadvantages that it raises are enormous.
These days I am returning to amuse with games, only entering the Nvidia CP and selecting Stereo OFF. Yes, the 3D it is something totally psychological, when I get used to them I stop valuing them, but I have to support his negative consequences.
Probably the key is in becoming convinced to one itself of that he does not need 3D, and with it to enjoy fullly the same one ... and to wait to that the technology 3D really is available without so many penalty.
Well, this is only a topic to remember me what is the purpose of any game. Of course, entertainment. So when I stop to observe what is happening nowadays, I realize that sometimes playing with 3D is more a disvantage that an advantage. Yes, 3D si aesthetically nice, but the requirements that it demands and the disadvantages that it raises are enormous.
These days I am returning to amuse with games, only entering the Nvidia CP and selecting Stereo OFF. Yes, the 3D it is something totally psychological, when I get used to them I stop valuing them, but I have to support his negative consequences.
Probably the key is in becoming convinced to one itself of that he does not need 3D, and with it to enjoy fullly the same one ... and to wait to that the technology 3D really is available without so many penalty.
Well, this is only a topic to remember me what is the purpose of any game. Of course, entertainment. So when I stop to observe what is happening nowadays, I realize that sometimes playing with 3D is more a disvantage that an advantage. Yes, 3D si aesthetically nice, but the requirements that it demands and the disadvantages that it raises are enormous.
These days I am returning to amuse with games, only entering the Nvidia CP and selecting Stereo OFF. Yes, the 3D it is something totally psychological, when I get used to them I stop valuing them, but I have to support his negative consequences.
Probably the key is in becoming convinced to one itself of that he does not need 3D, and with it to enjoy fullly the same one ... and to wait to that the technology 3D really is available without so many penalty.
I doubt you use 3d at all. What penalty are you talking about? what disadvantages? 3d gives you tenfold the inmersion of 2d and with no disadvantage that I know of. Turning off 3d in a game and watching the same scene you were watching in 3d but in 2d is totally underwhelming, nowadays I just cant play a game in 2d anymore, I havent touched my xbox360 in months for that reason, so sorry but I doubt you have played in 3d at all. If you have a crappy computer or you cant configure it at all its your fault, not that of the technology.
I doubt you use 3d at all. What penalty are you talking about? what disadvantages? 3d gives you tenfold the inmersion of 2d and with no disadvantage that I know of. Turning off 3d in a game and watching the same scene you were watching in 3d but in 2d is totally underwhelming, nowadays I just cant play a game in 2d anymore, I havent touched my xbox360 in months for that reason, so sorry but I doubt you have played in 3d at all. If you have a crappy computer or you cant configure it at all its your fault, not that of the technology.
I doubt you use 3d at all. What penalty are you talking about? what disadvantages? 3d gives you tenfold the inmersion of 2d and with no disadvantage that I know of. Turning off 3d in a game and watching the same scene you were watching in 3d but in 2d is totally underwhelming, nowadays I just cant play a game in 2d anymore, I havent touched my xbox360 in months for that reason, so sorry but I doubt you have played in 3d at all. If you have a crappy computer or you cant configure it at all its your fault, not that of the technology.
I doubt you use 3d at all. What penalty are you talking about? what disadvantages? 3d gives you tenfold the inmersion of 2d and with no disadvantage that I know of. Turning off 3d in a game and watching the same scene you were watching in 3d but in 2d is totally underwhelming, nowadays I just cant play a game in 2d anymore, I havent touched my xbox360 in months for that reason, so sorry but I doubt you have played in 3d at all. If you have a crappy computer or you cant configure it at all its your fault, not that of the technology.
Well.. 3D is aesthetics. Yes. But it's also much more immersive.
Basically *only* disadvantage is you need to invest in new hardware (for 3D), and you do need more powerful rig.
But it's same with new games also - new games that have more eye-candies also require more powerful machines, even in '2D'.
Well.. 3D is aesthetics. Yes. But it's also much more immersive.
Basically *only* disadvantage is you need to invest in new hardware (for 3D), and you do need more powerful rig.
But it's same with new games also - new games that have more eye-candies also require more powerful machines, even in '2D'.
There are gameplay disadvantages which results in gaming with depth. In FPS you only need to focus at screen depth in 2D but in 3D your eyes have to adjust as they would have to in real life. You also need to remove the cross hair in some games.
However both of the abovementioned penalties add to immersiveness in my opinion.
There are gameplay disadvantages which results in gaming with depth. In FPS you only need to focus at screen depth in 2D but in 3D your eyes have to adjust as they would have to in real life. You also need to remove the cross hair in some games.
However both of the abovementioned penalties add to immersiveness in my opinion.
Lord, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference.
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Vitals: Windows 7 64bit, i5 2500 @ 4.4ghz, SLI GTX670, 8GB, Viewsonic VX2268WM
There are gameplay disadvantages which results in gaming with depth. In FPS you only need to focus at screen depth in 2D but in 3D your eyes have to adjust as they would have to in real life. You also need to remove the cross hair in some games.
However both of the abovementioned penalties add to immersiveness in my opinion.
There are gameplay disadvantages which results in gaming with depth. In FPS you only need to focus at screen depth in 2D but in 3D your eyes have to adjust as they would have to in real life. You also need to remove the cross hair in some games.
However both of the abovementioned penalties add to immersiveness in my opinion.
Lord, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference.
-------------------
Vitals: Windows 7 64bit, i5 2500 @ 4.4ghz, SLI GTX670, 8GB, Viewsonic VX2268WM
Gaming "FTW" or "to beat/complete a game" will end up making 3d-vision a gimmick.
Gaming for story, character interactions, environments will greatly enhance the experience
3d vision's usefulness depends on how much you want to engage with a game. Mindless twitch based shooting makes depth and poorly implemented cross-hairs extremely annoying, therefore negates in the minds of some the benefits of 3d vision.
Given enough time playing a game in 3d, then your mind will become accustomed to it and the immediate "WOW!" factor of things coming out of the screen will die off.
However you will find yourself believing (at least I did) the game-world is a lot more real.
For me: 3d-vision + RPGs = Yes.......3d-vision + FPSs/Competitive Games = No no
The OP has a valid point that will click with a lot of people though: Why bother with 3d at the moment when my mind will be accustomed to 2d and not have to worry about the hassles of poorly rendered shadows or cross-hairs (and of course the hardware requirements).
(currently playing through Neverwinter nights 2 with 3d-vision.. AWESOME!!!)
Gaming "FTW" or "to beat/complete a game" will end up making 3d-vision a gimmick.
Gaming for story, character interactions, environments will greatly enhance the experience
3d vision's usefulness depends on how much you want to engage with a game. Mindless twitch based shooting makes depth and poorly implemented cross-hairs extremely annoying, therefore negates in the minds of some the benefits of 3d vision.
Given enough time playing a game in 3d, then your mind will become accustomed to it and the immediate "WOW!" factor of things coming out of the screen will die off.
However you will find yourself believing (at least I did) the game-world is a lot more real.
For me: 3d-vision + RPGs = Yes.......3d-vision + FPSs/Competitive Games = No no
The OP has a valid point that will click with a lot of people though: Why bother with 3d at the moment when my mind will be accustomed to 2d and not have to worry about the hassles of poorly rendered shadows or cross-hairs (and of course the hardware requirements).
(currently playing through Neverwinter nights 2 with 3d-vision.. AWESOME!!!)
Gaming "FTW" or "to beat/complete a game" will end up making 3d-vision a gimmick.
Gaming for story, character interactions, environments will greatly enhance the experience
3d vision's usefulness depends on how much you want to engage with a game. Mindless twitch based shooting makes depth and poorly implemented cross-hairs extremely annoying, therefore negates in the minds of some the benefits of 3d vision.
Given enough time playing a game in 3d, then your mind will become accustomed to it and the immediate "WOW!" factor of things coming out of the screen will die off.
However you will find yourself believing (at least I did) the game-world is a lot more real.
For me: 3d-vision + RPGs = Yes.......3d-vision + FPSs/Competitive Games = No no
The OP has a valid point that will click with a lot of people though: Why bother with 3d at the moment when my mind will be accustomed to 2d and not have to worry about the hassles of poorly rendered shadows or cross-hairs (and of course the hardware requirements).
(currently playing through Neverwinter nights 2 with 3d-vision.. AWESOME!!!)
Gaming "FTW" or "to beat/complete a game" will end up making 3d-vision a gimmick.
Gaming for story, character interactions, environments will greatly enhance the experience
3d vision's usefulness depends on how much you want to engage with a game. Mindless twitch based shooting makes depth and poorly implemented cross-hairs extremely annoying, therefore negates in the minds of some the benefits of 3d vision.
Given enough time playing a game in 3d, then your mind will become accustomed to it and the immediate "WOW!" factor of things coming out of the screen will die off.
However you will find yourself believing (at least I did) the game-world is a lot more real.
For me: 3d-vision + RPGs = Yes.......3d-vision + FPSs/Competitive Games = No no
The OP has a valid point that will click with a lot of people though: Why bother with 3d at the moment when my mind will be accustomed to 2d and not have to worry about the hassles of poorly rendered shadows or cross-hairs (and of course the hardware requirements).
(currently playing through Neverwinter nights 2 with 3d-vision.. AWESOME!!!)
I think my computer is enough to use 3D, not the better but enough. I have Intel I7 930 + Nvidia GTX 460 OC + 6gb 1600 RAM. Well, in response to wich they are the penaltys (I believe that all people knows them):
- Smooth framerates is one penalty, not the most important for my rig, but also when you think it is enough, it isn´t. Most games have smoother playing in 120hz 2D, and if you play online you will notice it a lot.
- Another big penalty is the darkening. People can get used to this disvantage, but I can´t, and for some games it is a determinant problem.
- Ghosting is another big penalty. Yes, you can elude the problem if you acquire a proyector, but it also brings other negative consequences (prize, lamp life, comfort, electrical expense, necessary space, assembly, etc. I have H5360 and usually I use the samsung 2233rz monitor for these reasons. For some games ghosting is really a pain, and seem that developers do not bear the existence of the Nvidia technology.
- Another penalty... graphical incompatibilities of many types with most games. It is the most complicated to find a title in without the necessary to deactivate graphical essential effects (the shades are very frequent), or that present faults related to the convergence of the images when they approach and remove the images. Also crosshairs, etc, etc.
- Of course another penalty is eyestrain, surelly because graphical anomalies related and because the flickering of the 120h/2 = 60hz CRT (with the darkening because glasses do not hit the eyes in the same way).
- Another penalty is the need to wear a extraterrestrial glasses in the house. For any persons it will not be a serious disadvantage, but for my yes. Technically they are good glasses, but the design seems to me to be bad and not enough comfortable.
Well, all these problems logically supposing that we have a powerfull enough computer.
Inmersion... yes, it is the reason... I love 3D because this, but I think it is not enough in the majority of occasions, due to the price that cost. There is a very small quantity of games that I think htat it is worth playin in 3D really.
I think my computer is enough to use 3D, not the better but enough. I have Intel I7 930 + Nvidia GTX 460 OC + 6gb 1600 RAM. Well, in response to wich they are the penaltys (I believe that all people knows them):
- Smooth framerates is one penalty, not the most important for my rig, but also when you think it is enough, it isn´t. Most games have smoother playing in 120hz 2D, and if you play online you will notice it a lot.
- Another big penalty is the darkening. People can get used to this disvantage, but I can´t, and for some games it is a determinant problem.
- Ghosting is another big penalty. Yes, you can elude the problem if you acquire a proyector, but it also brings other negative consequences (prize, lamp life, comfort, electrical expense, necessary space, assembly, etc. I have H5360 and usually I use the samsung 2233rz monitor for these reasons. For some games ghosting is really a pain, and seem that developers do not bear the existence of the Nvidia technology.
- Another penalty... graphical incompatibilities of many types with most games. It is the most complicated to find a title in without the necessary to deactivate graphical essential effects (the shades are very frequent), or that present faults related to the convergence of the images when they approach and remove the images. Also crosshairs, etc, etc.
- Of course another penalty is eyestrain, surelly because graphical anomalies related and because the flickering of the 120h/2 = 60hz CRT (with the darkening because glasses do not hit the eyes in the same way).
- Another penalty is the need to wear a extraterrestrial glasses in the house. For any persons it will not be a serious disadvantage, but for my yes. Technically they are good glasses, but the design seems to me to be bad and not enough comfortable.
Well, all these problems logically supposing that we have a powerfull enough computer.
Inmersion... yes, it is the reason... I love 3D because this, but I think it is not enough in the majority of occasions, due to the price that cost. There is a very small quantity of games that I think htat it is worth playin in 3D really.
I think my computer is enough to use 3D, not the better but enough. I have Intel I7 930 + Nvidia GTX 460 OC + 6gb 1600 RAM. Well, in response to wich they are the penaltys (I believe that all people knows them):
- Smooth framerates is one penalty, not the most important for my rig, but also when you think it is enough, it isn´t. Most games have smoother playing in 120hz 2D, and if you play online you will notice it a lot.
- Another big penalty is the darkening. People can get used to this disvantage, but I can´t, and for some games it is a determinant problem.
- Ghosting is another big penalty. Yes, you can elude the problem if you acquire a proyector, but it also brings other negative consequences (prize, lamp life, comfort, electrical expense, necessary space, assembly, etc. I have H5360 and usually I use the samsung 2233rz monitor for these reasons. For some games ghosting is really a pain, and seem that developers do not bear the existence of the Nvidia technology.
- Another penalty... graphical incompatibilities of many types with most games. It is the most complicated to find a title in without the necessary to deactivate graphical essential effects (the shades are very frequent), or that present faults related to the convergence of the images when they approach and remove the images. Also crosshairs, etc, etc.
- Of course another penalty is eyestrain, surelly because graphical anomalies related and because the flickering of the 120h/2 = 60hz CRT (with the darkening because glasses do not hit the eyes in the same way).
- Another penalty is the need to wear a extraterrestrial glasses in the house. For any persons it will not be a serious disadvantage, but for my yes. Technically they are good glasses, but the design seems to me to be bad and not enough comfortable.
Well, all these problems logically supposing that we have a powerfull enough computer.
Inmersion... yes, it is the reason... I love 3D because this, but I think it is not enough in the majority of occasions, due to the price that cost. There is a very small quantity of games that I think htat it is worth playin in 3D really.
I think my computer is enough to use 3D, not the better but enough. I have Intel I7 930 + Nvidia GTX 460 OC + 6gb 1600 RAM. Well, in response to wich they are the penaltys (I believe that all people knows them):
- Smooth framerates is one penalty, not the most important for my rig, but also when you think it is enough, it isn´t. Most games have smoother playing in 120hz 2D, and if you play online you will notice it a lot.
- Another big penalty is the darkening. People can get used to this disvantage, but I can´t, and for some games it is a determinant problem.
- Ghosting is another big penalty. Yes, you can elude the problem if you acquire a proyector, but it also brings other negative consequences (prize, lamp life, comfort, electrical expense, necessary space, assembly, etc. I have H5360 and usually I use the samsung 2233rz monitor for these reasons. For some games ghosting is really a pain, and seem that developers do not bear the existence of the Nvidia technology.
- Another penalty... graphical incompatibilities of many types with most games. It is the most complicated to find a title in without the necessary to deactivate graphical essential effects (the shades are very frequent), or that present faults related to the convergence of the images when they approach and remove the images. Also crosshairs, etc, etc.
- Of course another penalty is eyestrain, surelly because graphical anomalies related and because the flickering of the 120h/2 = 60hz CRT (with the darkening because glasses do not hit the eyes in the same way).
- Another penalty is the need to wear a extraterrestrial glasses in the house. For any persons it will not be a serious disadvantage, but for my yes. Technically they are good glasses, but the design seems to me to be bad and not enough comfortable.
Well, all these problems logically supposing that we have a powerfull enough computer.
Inmersion... yes, it is the reason... I love 3D because this, but I think it is not enough in the majority of occasions, due to the price that cost. There is a very small quantity of games that I think htat it is worth playin in 3D really.
[quote]I doubt you use 3d at all. What penalty are you talking about? what disadvantages?[/quote]
Have YOU played 3D at all!? Of course there are disadvantages! B4thman outlines a bunch (uhh, I think you meant 'external' not 'extraterrestrial' there B4thman) and I can toss in a few more - like the glasses getting uncomfortable after hours of play or the extra time you have to spend dinking around with settings to try and get the game working right.
But... there are a heck of a lot of ways to have fun. If you are playing competitively online then you certainly don't want 3D going - heck, you might not even want anti-aliasing going. There are also lots of older games and OpenGL games that can't handle S3D at all or end up doing more damage than good. And, on the other side, there are a heck of a lot of games that DO benifit greatly. RPGs gain a ton, as do shooters when you are just playing solo. There are lots of half-breed games, too, that look good sometimes and bad other times.
If you are skipping games simply because they don't work well in S3D then I think you are missing out on some fun games (and some great deals). Conversely, if you are ignoring S3D simply because it isn't going to work great in every game you play or because it doesn't work as well as it is likely to work 5 years from now, you are also missing out.
I doubt you use 3d at all. What penalty are you talking about? what disadvantages?
Have YOU played 3D at all!? Of course there are disadvantages! B4thman outlines a bunch (uhh, I think you meant 'external' not 'extraterrestrial' there B4thman) and I can toss in a few more - like the glasses getting uncomfortable after hours of play or the extra time you have to spend dinking around with settings to try and get the game working right.
But... there are a heck of a lot of ways to have fun. If you are playing competitively online then you certainly don't want 3D going - heck, you might not even want anti-aliasing going. There are also lots of older games and OpenGL games that can't handle S3D at all or end up doing more damage than good. And, on the other side, there are a heck of a lot of games that DO benifit greatly. RPGs gain a ton, as do shooters when you are just playing solo. There are lots of half-breed games, too, that look good sometimes and bad other times.
If you are skipping games simply because they don't work well in S3D then I think you are missing out on some fun games (and some great deals). Conversely, if you are ignoring S3D simply because it isn't going to work great in every game you play or because it doesn't work as well as it is likely to work 5 years from now, you are also missing out.
[quote]I doubt you use 3d at all. What penalty are you talking about? what disadvantages?[/quote]
Have YOU played 3D at all!? Of course there are disadvantages! B4thman outlines a bunch (uhh, I think you meant 'external' not 'extraterrestrial' there B4thman) and I can toss in a few more - like the glasses getting uncomfortable after hours of play or the extra time you have to spend dinking around with settings to try and get the game working right.
But... there are a heck of a lot of ways to have fun. If you are playing competitively online then you certainly don't want 3D going - heck, you might not even want anti-aliasing going. There are also lots of older games and OpenGL games that can't handle S3D at all or end up doing more damage than good. And, on the other side, there are a heck of a lot of games that DO benifit greatly. RPGs gain a ton, as do shooters when you are just playing solo. There are lots of half-breed games, too, that look good sometimes and bad other times.
If you are skipping games simply because they don't work well in S3D then I think you are missing out on some fun games (and some great deals). Conversely, if you are ignoring S3D simply because it isn't going to work great in every game you play or because it doesn't work as well as it is likely to work 5 years from now, you are also missing out.
I doubt you use 3d at all. What penalty are you talking about? what disadvantages?
Have YOU played 3D at all!? Of course there are disadvantages! B4thman outlines a bunch (uhh, I think you meant 'external' not 'extraterrestrial' there B4thman) and I can toss in a few more - like the glasses getting uncomfortable after hours of play or the extra time you have to spend dinking around with settings to try and get the game working right.
But... there are a heck of a lot of ways to have fun. If you are playing competitively online then you certainly don't want 3D going - heck, you might not even want anti-aliasing going. There are also lots of older games and OpenGL games that can't handle S3D at all or end up doing more damage than good. And, on the other side, there are a heck of a lot of games that DO benifit greatly. RPGs gain a ton, as do shooters when you are just playing solo. There are lots of half-breed games, too, that look good sometimes and bad other times.
If you are skipping games simply because they don't work well in S3D then I think you are missing out on some fun games (and some great deals). Conversely, if you are ignoring S3D simply because it isn't going to work great in every game you play or because it doesn't work as well as it is likely to work 5 years from now, you are also missing out.
Something to laugh about:
Problem:My "immersion" was being disrupted by the 480 GTXs fan noise, but I didn't want to underclock or allow the card to get too hot by using normal fan profiles.
The Solution: Drill a hole in the wall for wires, put the computer in the next room.
Problem:My "immersion" was being disrupted by the 480 GTXs fan noise, but I didn't want to underclock or allow the card to get too hot by using normal fan profiles.
The Solution: Drill a hole in the wall for wires, put the computer in the next room.
These days I am returning to amuse with games, only entering the Nvidia CP and selecting Stereo OFF. Yes, the 3D it is something totally psychological, when I get used to them I stop valuing them, but I have to support his negative consequences.
Probably the key is in becoming convinced to one itself of that he does not need 3D, and with it to enjoy fullly the same one ... and to wait to that the technology 3D really is available without so many penalty.
These days I am returning to amuse with games, only entering the Nvidia CP and selecting Stereo OFF. Yes, the 3D it is something totally psychological, when I get used to them I stop valuing them, but I have to support his negative consequences.
Probably the key is in becoming convinced to one itself of that he does not need 3D, and with it to enjoy fullly the same one ... and to wait to that the technology 3D really is available without so many penalty.
- Windows 7 64bits (SSD OCZ-Vertez2 128Gb)
- "ASUS P6X58D-E" motherboard
- "MSI GTX 660 TI"
- "Intel Xeon X5670" @4000MHz CPU (20.0[12-25]x200MHz)
- RAM 16 Gb DDR3 1600
- "Dell S2716DG" monitor (2560x1440 @144Hz)
- "Corsair Carbide 600C" case
- Labrador dog (cinnamon edition)
These days I am returning to amuse with games, only entering the Nvidia CP and selecting Stereo OFF. Yes, the 3D it is something totally psychological, when I get used to them I stop valuing them, but I have to support his negative consequences.
Probably the key is in becoming convinced to one itself of that he does not need 3D, and with it to enjoy fullly the same one ... and to wait to that the technology 3D really is available without so many penalty.
These days I am returning to amuse with games, only entering the Nvidia CP and selecting Stereo OFF. Yes, the 3D it is something totally psychological, when I get used to them I stop valuing them, but I have to support his negative consequences.
Probably the key is in becoming convinced to one itself of that he does not need 3D, and with it to enjoy fullly the same one ... and to wait to that the technology 3D really is available without so many penalty.
- Windows 7 64bits (SSD OCZ-Vertez2 128Gb)
- "ASUS P6X58D-E" motherboard
- "MSI GTX 660 TI"
- "Intel Xeon X5670" @4000MHz CPU (20.0[12-25]x200MHz)
- RAM 16 Gb DDR3 1600
- "Dell S2716DG" monitor (2560x1440 @144Hz)
- "Corsair Carbide 600C" case
- Labrador dog (cinnamon edition)
Basically *only* disadvantage is you need to invest in new hardware (for 3D), and you do need more powerful rig.
But it's same with new games also - new games that have more eye-candies also require more powerful machines, even in '2D'.
Basically *only* disadvantage is you need to invest in new hardware (for 3D), and you do need more powerful rig.
But it's same with new games also - new games that have more eye-candies also require more powerful machines, even in '2D'.
Basically *only* disadvantage is you need to invest in new hardware (for 3D), and you do need more powerful rig.
But it's same with new games also - new games that have more eye-candies also require more powerful machines, even in '2D'.
Basically *only* disadvantage is you need to invest in new hardware (for 3D), and you do need more powerful rig.
But it's same with new games also - new games that have more eye-candies also require more powerful machines, even in '2D'.
However both of the abovementioned penalties add to immersiveness in my opinion.
However both of the abovementioned penalties add to immersiveness in my opinion.
Lord, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference.
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Vitals: Windows 7 64bit, i5 2500 @ 4.4ghz, SLI GTX670, 8GB, Viewsonic VX2268WM
Handy Driver Discussion
Helix Mod - community fixes
Bo3b's Shaderhacker School - How to fix 3D in games
3dsolutionsgaming.com - videos, reviews and 3D fixes
However both of the abovementioned penalties add to immersiveness in my opinion.
However both of the abovementioned penalties add to immersiveness in my opinion.
Lord, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference.
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Vitals: Windows 7 64bit, i5 2500 @ 4.4ghz, SLI GTX670, 8GB, Viewsonic VX2268WM
Handy Driver Discussion
Helix Mod - community fixes
Bo3b's Shaderhacker School - How to fix 3D in games
3dsolutionsgaming.com - videos, reviews and 3D fixes
Gaming for story, character interactions, environments will greatly enhance the experience
3d vision's usefulness depends on how much you want to engage with a game. Mindless twitch based shooting makes depth and poorly implemented cross-hairs extremely annoying, therefore negates in the minds of some the benefits of 3d vision.
Given enough time playing a game in 3d, then your mind will become accustomed to it and the immediate "WOW!" factor of things coming out of the screen will die off.
However you will find yourself believing (at least I did) the game-world is a lot more real.
For me: 3d-vision + RPGs = Yes.......3d-vision + FPSs/Competitive Games = No no
The OP has a valid point that will click with a lot of people though: Why bother with 3d at the moment when my mind will be accustomed to 2d and not have to worry about the hassles of poorly rendered shadows or cross-hairs (and of course the hardware requirements).
(currently playing through Neverwinter nights 2 with 3d-vision.. AWESOME!!!)
Gaming for story, character interactions, environments will greatly enhance the experience
3d vision's usefulness depends on how much you want to engage with a game. Mindless twitch based shooting makes depth and poorly implemented cross-hairs extremely annoying, therefore negates in the minds of some the benefits of 3d vision.
Given enough time playing a game in 3d, then your mind will become accustomed to it and the immediate "WOW!" factor of things coming out of the screen will die off.
However you will find yourself believing (at least I did) the game-world is a lot more real.
For me: 3d-vision + RPGs = Yes.......3d-vision + FPSs/Competitive Games = No no
The OP has a valid point that will click with a lot of people though: Why bother with 3d at the moment when my mind will be accustomed to 2d and not have to worry about the hassles of poorly rendered shadows or cross-hairs (and of course the hardware requirements).
(currently playing through Neverwinter nights 2 with 3d-vision.. AWESOME!!!)
Gaming for story, character interactions, environments will greatly enhance the experience
3d vision's usefulness depends on how much you want to engage with a game. Mindless twitch based shooting makes depth and poorly implemented cross-hairs extremely annoying, therefore negates in the minds of some the benefits of 3d vision.
Given enough time playing a game in 3d, then your mind will become accustomed to it and the immediate "WOW!" factor of things coming out of the screen will die off.
However you will find yourself believing (at least I did) the game-world is a lot more real.
For me: 3d-vision + RPGs = Yes.......3d-vision + FPSs/Competitive Games = No no
The OP has a valid point that will click with a lot of people though: Why bother with 3d at the moment when my mind will be accustomed to 2d and not have to worry about the hassles of poorly rendered shadows or cross-hairs (and of course the hardware requirements).
(currently playing through Neverwinter nights 2 with 3d-vision.. AWESOME!!!)
Gaming for story, character interactions, environments will greatly enhance the experience
3d vision's usefulness depends on how much you want to engage with a game. Mindless twitch based shooting makes depth and poorly implemented cross-hairs extremely annoying, therefore negates in the minds of some the benefits of 3d vision.
Given enough time playing a game in 3d, then your mind will become accustomed to it and the immediate "WOW!" factor of things coming out of the screen will die off.
However you will find yourself believing (at least I did) the game-world is a lot more real.
For me: 3d-vision + RPGs = Yes.......3d-vision + FPSs/Competitive Games = No no
The OP has a valid point that will click with a lot of people though: Why bother with 3d at the moment when my mind will be accustomed to 2d and not have to worry about the hassles of poorly rendered shadows or cross-hairs (and of course the hardware requirements).
(currently playing through Neverwinter nights 2 with 3d-vision.. AWESOME!!!)
- Smooth framerates is one penalty, not the most important for my rig, but also when you think it is enough, it isn´t. Most games have smoother playing in 120hz 2D, and if you play online you will notice it a lot.
- Another big penalty is the darkening. People can get used to this disvantage, but I can´t, and for some games it is a determinant problem.
- Ghosting is another big penalty. Yes, you can elude the problem if you acquire a proyector, but it also brings other negative consequences (prize, lamp life, comfort, electrical expense, necessary space, assembly, etc. I have H5360 and usually I use the samsung 2233rz monitor for these reasons. For some games ghosting is really a pain, and seem that developers do not bear the existence of the Nvidia technology.
- Another penalty... graphical incompatibilities of many types with most games. It is the most complicated to find a title in without the necessary to deactivate graphical essential effects (the shades are very frequent), or that present faults related to the convergence of the images when they approach and remove the images. Also crosshairs, etc, etc.
- Of course another penalty is eyestrain, surelly because graphical anomalies related and because the flickering of the 120h/2 = 60hz CRT (with the darkening because glasses do not hit the eyes in the same way).
- Another penalty is the need to wear a extraterrestrial glasses in the house. For any persons it will not be a serious disadvantage, but for my yes. Technically they are good glasses, but the design seems to me to be bad and not enough comfortable.
Well, all these problems logically supposing that we have a powerfull enough computer.
Inmersion... yes, it is the reason... I love 3D because this, but I think it is not enough in the majority of occasions, due to the price that cost. There is a very small quantity of games that I think htat it is worth playin in 3D really.
- Smooth framerates is one penalty, not the most important for my rig, but also when you think it is enough, it isn´t. Most games have smoother playing in 120hz 2D, and if you play online you will notice it a lot.
- Another big penalty is the darkening. People can get used to this disvantage, but I can´t, and for some games it is a determinant problem.
- Ghosting is another big penalty. Yes, you can elude the problem if you acquire a proyector, but it also brings other negative consequences (prize, lamp life, comfort, electrical expense, necessary space, assembly, etc. I have H5360 and usually I use the samsung 2233rz monitor for these reasons. For some games ghosting is really a pain, and seem that developers do not bear the existence of the Nvidia technology.
- Another penalty... graphical incompatibilities of many types with most games. It is the most complicated to find a title in without the necessary to deactivate graphical essential effects (the shades are very frequent), or that present faults related to the convergence of the images when they approach and remove the images. Also crosshairs, etc, etc.
- Of course another penalty is eyestrain, surelly because graphical anomalies related and because the flickering of the 120h/2 = 60hz CRT (with the darkening because glasses do not hit the eyes in the same way).
- Another penalty is the need to wear a extraterrestrial glasses in the house. For any persons it will not be a serious disadvantage, but for my yes. Technically they are good glasses, but the design seems to me to be bad and not enough comfortable.
Well, all these problems logically supposing that we have a powerfull enough computer.
Inmersion... yes, it is the reason... I love 3D because this, but I think it is not enough in the majority of occasions, due to the price that cost. There is a very small quantity of games that I think htat it is worth playin in 3D really.
- Windows 7 64bits (SSD OCZ-Vertez2 128Gb)
- "ASUS P6X58D-E" motherboard
- "MSI GTX 660 TI"
- "Intel Xeon X5670" @4000MHz CPU (20.0[12-25]x200MHz)
- RAM 16 Gb DDR3 1600
- "Dell S2716DG" monitor (2560x1440 @144Hz)
- "Corsair Carbide 600C" case
- Labrador dog (cinnamon edition)
- Smooth framerates is one penalty, not the most important for my rig, but also when you think it is enough, it isn´t. Most games have smoother playing in 120hz 2D, and if you play online you will notice it a lot.
- Another big penalty is the darkening. People can get used to this disvantage, but I can´t, and for some games it is a determinant problem.
- Ghosting is another big penalty. Yes, you can elude the problem if you acquire a proyector, but it also brings other negative consequences (prize, lamp life, comfort, electrical expense, necessary space, assembly, etc. I have H5360 and usually I use the samsung 2233rz monitor for these reasons. For some games ghosting is really a pain, and seem that developers do not bear the existence of the Nvidia technology.
- Another penalty... graphical incompatibilities of many types with most games. It is the most complicated to find a title in without the necessary to deactivate graphical essential effects (the shades are very frequent), or that present faults related to the convergence of the images when they approach and remove the images. Also crosshairs, etc, etc.
- Of course another penalty is eyestrain, surelly because graphical anomalies related and because the flickering of the 120h/2 = 60hz CRT (with the darkening because glasses do not hit the eyes in the same way).
- Another penalty is the need to wear a extraterrestrial glasses in the house. For any persons it will not be a serious disadvantage, but for my yes. Technically they are good glasses, but the design seems to me to be bad and not enough comfortable.
Well, all these problems logically supposing that we have a powerfull enough computer.
Inmersion... yes, it is the reason... I love 3D because this, but I think it is not enough in the majority of occasions, due to the price that cost. There is a very small quantity of games that I think htat it is worth playin in 3D really.
- Smooth framerates is one penalty, not the most important for my rig, but also when you think it is enough, it isn´t. Most games have smoother playing in 120hz 2D, and if you play online you will notice it a lot.
- Another big penalty is the darkening. People can get used to this disvantage, but I can´t, and for some games it is a determinant problem.
- Ghosting is another big penalty. Yes, you can elude the problem if you acquire a proyector, but it also brings other negative consequences (prize, lamp life, comfort, electrical expense, necessary space, assembly, etc. I have H5360 and usually I use the samsung 2233rz monitor for these reasons. For some games ghosting is really a pain, and seem that developers do not bear the existence of the Nvidia technology.
- Another penalty... graphical incompatibilities of many types with most games. It is the most complicated to find a title in without the necessary to deactivate graphical essential effects (the shades are very frequent), or that present faults related to the convergence of the images when they approach and remove the images. Also crosshairs, etc, etc.
- Of course another penalty is eyestrain, surelly because graphical anomalies related and because the flickering of the 120h/2 = 60hz CRT (with the darkening because glasses do not hit the eyes in the same way).
- Another penalty is the need to wear a extraterrestrial glasses in the house. For any persons it will not be a serious disadvantage, but for my yes. Technically they are good glasses, but the design seems to me to be bad and not enough comfortable.
Well, all these problems logically supposing that we have a powerfull enough computer.
Inmersion... yes, it is the reason... I love 3D because this, but I think it is not enough in the majority of occasions, due to the price that cost. There is a very small quantity of games that I think htat it is worth playin in 3D really.
- Windows 7 64bits (SSD OCZ-Vertez2 128Gb)
- "ASUS P6X58D-E" motherboard
- "MSI GTX 660 TI"
- "Intel Xeon X5670" @4000MHz CPU (20.0[12-25]x200MHz)
- RAM 16 Gb DDR3 1600
- "Dell S2716DG" monitor (2560x1440 @144Hz)
- "Corsair Carbide 600C" case
- Labrador dog (cinnamon edition)
Have YOU played 3D at all!? Of course there are disadvantages! B4thman outlines a bunch (uhh, I think you meant 'external' not 'extraterrestrial' there B4thman) and I can toss in a few more - like the glasses getting uncomfortable after hours of play or the extra time you have to spend dinking around with settings to try and get the game working right.
But... there are a heck of a lot of ways to have fun. If you are playing competitively online then you certainly don't want 3D going - heck, you might not even want anti-aliasing going. There are also lots of older games and OpenGL games that can't handle S3D at all or end up doing more damage than good. And, on the other side, there are a heck of a lot of games that DO benifit greatly. RPGs gain a ton, as do shooters when you are just playing solo. There are lots of half-breed games, too, that look good sometimes and bad other times.
If you are skipping games simply because they don't work well in S3D then I think you are missing out on some fun games (and some great deals). Conversely, if you are ignoring S3D simply because it isn't going to work great in every game you play or because it doesn't work as well as it is likely to work 5 years from now, you are also missing out.
Have YOU played 3D at all!? Of course there are disadvantages! B4thman outlines a bunch (uhh, I think you meant 'external' not 'extraterrestrial' there B4thman) and I can toss in a few more - like the glasses getting uncomfortable after hours of play or the extra time you have to spend dinking around with settings to try and get the game working right.
But... there are a heck of a lot of ways to have fun. If you are playing competitively online then you certainly don't want 3D going - heck, you might not even want anti-aliasing going. There are also lots of older games and OpenGL games that can't handle S3D at all or end up doing more damage than good. And, on the other side, there are a heck of a lot of games that DO benifit greatly. RPGs gain a ton, as do shooters when you are just playing solo. There are lots of half-breed games, too, that look good sometimes and bad other times.
If you are skipping games simply because they don't work well in S3D then I think you are missing out on some fun games (and some great deals). Conversely, if you are ignoring S3D simply because it isn't going to work great in every game you play or because it doesn't work as well as it is likely to work 5 years from now, you are also missing out.
Have YOU played 3D at all!? Of course there are disadvantages! B4thman outlines a bunch (uhh, I think you meant 'external' not 'extraterrestrial' there B4thman) and I can toss in a few more - like the glasses getting uncomfortable after hours of play or the extra time you have to spend dinking around with settings to try and get the game working right.
But... there are a heck of a lot of ways to have fun. If you are playing competitively online then you certainly don't want 3D going - heck, you might not even want anti-aliasing going. There are also lots of older games and OpenGL games that can't handle S3D at all or end up doing more damage than good. And, on the other side, there are a heck of a lot of games that DO benifit greatly. RPGs gain a ton, as do shooters when you are just playing solo. There are lots of half-breed games, too, that look good sometimes and bad other times.
If you are skipping games simply because they don't work well in S3D then I think you are missing out on some fun games (and some great deals). Conversely, if you are ignoring S3D simply because it isn't going to work great in every game you play or because it doesn't work as well as it is likely to work 5 years from now, you are also missing out.
Have YOU played 3D at all!? Of course there are disadvantages! B4thman outlines a bunch (uhh, I think you meant 'external' not 'extraterrestrial' there B4thman) and I can toss in a few more - like the glasses getting uncomfortable after hours of play or the extra time you have to spend dinking around with settings to try and get the game working right.
But... there are a heck of a lot of ways to have fun. If you are playing competitively online then you certainly don't want 3D going - heck, you might not even want anti-aliasing going. There are also lots of older games and OpenGL games that can't handle S3D at all or end up doing more damage than good. And, on the other side, there are a heck of a lot of games that DO benifit greatly. RPGs gain a ton, as do shooters when you are just playing solo. There are lots of half-breed games, too, that look good sometimes and bad other times.
If you are skipping games simply because they don't work well in S3D then I think you are missing out on some fun games (and some great deals). Conversely, if you are ignoring S3D simply because it isn't going to work great in every game you play or because it doesn't work as well as it is likely to work 5 years from now, you are also missing out.
Problem:My "immersion" was being disrupted by the 480 GTXs fan noise, but I didn't want to underclock or allow the card to get too hot by using normal fan profiles.
The Solution: Drill a hole in the wall for wires, put the computer in the next room.
Good times!
Problem:My "immersion" was being disrupted by the 480 GTXs fan noise, but I didn't want to underclock or allow the card to get too hot by using normal fan profiles.
The Solution: Drill a hole in the wall for wires, put the computer in the next room.
Good times!