Major mitsubishi overscan and flickering new 3dvision owner with major issues!
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[quote name='DanielJoy' post='993728' date='Feb 2 2010, 01:14 AM']you are right about the dlp issues- but the newer tv are much improved. bulbs are only 99$ direct from mit. and they last 6000 hours. all my other hd tv's overscaned also- maybe im just unlucky! Does your Sam dlp overscan stock? geometry issues are easy to fix with the latest generation dlp- the olders ones- now thats a different story.... just curious, what happens when the LED dlp dies? how do you fix it? they both seem like nice tvs to me.[/quote]
This is a "new" TV, it is 2 years old, I really doubt Mits has put many new dollars into DLP tech besides LaserVue in the last couple years, but I could be wrong.
$99 is a good price for a bulb, but bulbs start out bright and get dim, and the hours is just an estimate. I got much less than rated on many bulbs in my original RP DLP. Plus you have the whole color wheel thing that sucks worse than the bulb--wait time for startup is much higher, more moving parts, noisy.
I think all DLPs overscan to a certain extent, although there are pic settings to reduce it but you lose 1:1 mapping which I think 3D vision requires to work.
Depends on the geometry issue how easy to fix it is. It wasn't any easier to fix issues on my 2008 DLP than my 2006 one. This is because of poor quality control during manufacturing and the flimsyness of the bezels. I keep returning them until I get one I can live with, but I've never had a "perfect" one.
LED will have to be replaced by a tech, I always purchase extended warranty on DLP. Not sure if Samsung will even have parts by the time mine needs replaced, I'm hoping to get between 5-10 years out of it.
[quote name='DanielJoy' post='993728' date='Feb 2 2010, 01:14 AM']you are right about the dlp issues- but the newer tv are much improved. bulbs are only 99$ direct from mit. and they last 6000 hours. all my other hd tv's overscaned also- maybe im just unlucky! Does your Sam dlp overscan stock? geometry issues are easy to fix with the latest generation dlp- the olders ones- now thats a different story.... just curious, what happens when the LED dlp dies? how do you fix it? they both seem like nice tvs to me.
This is a "new" TV, it is 2 years old, I really doubt Mits has put many new dollars into DLP tech besides LaserVue in the last couple years, but I could be wrong.
$99 is a good price for a bulb, but bulbs start out bright and get dim, and the hours is just an estimate. I got much less than rated on many bulbs in my original RP DLP. Plus you have the whole color wheel thing that sucks worse than the bulb--wait time for startup is much higher, more moving parts, noisy.
I think all DLPs overscan to a certain extent, although there are pic settings to reduce it but you lose 1:1 mapping which I think 3D vision requires to work.
Depends on the geometry issue how easy to fix it is. It wasn't any easier to fix issues on my 2008 DLP than my 2006 one. This is because of poor quality control during manufacturing and the flimsyness of the bezels. I keep returning them until I get one I can live with, but I've never had a "perfect" one.
LED will have to be replaced by a tech, I always purchase extended warranty on DLP. Not sure if Samsung will even have parts by the time mine needs replaced, I'm hoping to get between 5-10 years out of it.
u are right- by new i meant the newest generation- released around 08 or 09- im not sure exactly when. yes those sammys look nice- but dude you are compairing a 3k$ tv to a 1k tv! i would have gotten one but the best price i could find was 3000$ for the 67 inch- not only that but im pretty sure sammy doesnt even sell led Dlp's anymore- they are not even on sammys web site anymore. i could by 3 65 inch mits for that price. mine was 1050$ shipped to my house. i found the quality to be much better with the new generation than the previous generation of older dlp tvs- pre 08. i hope that more tv manufacturers keep building nice working and looking dlps with either led or bulbs- either one is great.
u are right about the geometry issues. it depends on manufacturing and shipping quality. i quess i got lucky on my 65". i can tweak it to be straight if i want. the 60" and the 83" are much better according to AVS forums.
hopefully dlp led comes down in price.
[quote name='turls' post='993955' date='Feb 2 2010, 08:30 AM']This is a "new" TV, it is 2 years old, I really doubt Mits has put many new dollars into DLP tech besides LaserVue in the last couple years, but I could be wrong.
$99 is a good price for a bulb, but bulbs start out bright and get dim, and the hours is just an estimate. I got much less than rated on many bulbs in my original RP DLP. Plus you have the whole color wheel thing that sucks worse than the bulb--wait time for startup is much higher, more moving parts, noisy.
I think all DLPs overscan to a certain extent, although there are pic settings to reduce it but you lose 1:1 mapping which I think 3D vision requires to work.
Depends on the geometry issue how easy to fix it is. It wasn't any easier to fix issues on my 2008 DLP than my 2006 one. This is because of poor quality control during manufacturing and the flimsyness of the bezels. I keep returning them until I get one I can live with, but I've never had a "perfect" one.
LED will have to be replaced by a tech, I always purchase extended warranty on DLP. Not sure if Samsung will even have parts by the time mine needs replaced, I'm hoping to get between 5-10 years out of it.[/quote]
u are right- by new i meant the newest generation- released around 08 or 09- im not sure exactly when. yes those sammys look nice- but dude you are compairing a 3k$ tv to a 1k tv! i would have gotten one but the best price i could find was 3000$ for the 67 inch- not only that but im pretty sure sammy doesnt even sell led Dlp's anymore- they are not even on sammys web site anymore. i could by 3 65 inch mits for that price. mine was 1050$ shipped to my house. i found the quality to be much better with the new generation than the previous generation of older dlp tvs- pre 08. i hope that more tv manufacturers keep building nice working and looking dlps with either led or bulbs- either one is great.
u are right about the geometry issues. it depends on manufacturing and shipping quality. i quess i got lucky on my 65". i can tweak it to be straight if i want. the 60" and the 83" are much better according to AVS forums.
hopefully dlp led comes down in price.
[quote name='turls' post='993955' date='Feb 2 2010, 08:30 AM']This is a "new" TV, it is 2 years old, I really doubt Mits has put many new dollars into DLP tech besides LaserVue in the last couple years, but I could be wrong.
$99 is a good price for a bulb, but bulbs start out bright and get dim, and the hours is just an estimate. I got much less than rated on many bulbs in my original RP DLP. Plus you have the whole color wheel thing that sucks worse than the bulb--wait time for startup is much higher, more moving parts, noisy.
I think all DLPs overscan to a certain extent, although there are pic settings to reduce it but you lose 1:1 mapping which I think 3D vision requires to work.
Depends on the geometry issue how easy to fix it is. It wasn't any easier to fix issues on my 2008 DLP than my 2006 one. This is because of poor quality control during manufacturing and the flimsyness of the bezels. I keep returning them until I get one I can live with, but I've never had a "perfect" one.
LED will have to be replaced by a tech, I always purchase extended warranty on DLP. Not sure if Samsung will even have parts by the time mine needs replaced, I'm hoping to get between 5-10 years out of it.
System:
Intel I7 920 overclocked to 4ghz
Asus Rampage Extreme II
2 Ge-force 480 in SLI
GTX 295 PhysX Card
12gb ddr3 2000mhz ram
Intel SSD in RAID 0
BR RW
1000w Sony surround sound
NVIDIA 3D Vision
3d displays tested:
Mitsubishi 65" DLP 3d HDTV (good old 1080p checkerboard since 2007!!!)
Panasonic VT25 (nice 2d but I returned it due to cross talk)
Acer H5360 720p on 130" screen (the best 3d)
23" Acer LCD monitor (horrible cross talk- sold it)
This is a "new" TV, it is 2 years old, I really doubt Mits has put many new dollars into DLP tech besides LaserVue in the last couple years, but I could be wrong.
$99 is a good price for a bulb, but bulbs start out bright and get dim, and the hours is just an estimate. I got much less than rated on many bulbs in my original RP DLP. Plus you have the whole color wheel thing that sucks worse than the bulb--wait time for startup is much higher, more moving parts, noisy.
I think all DLPs overscan to a certain extent, although there are pic settings to reduce it but you lose 1:1 mapping which I think 3D vision requires to work.
Depends on the geometry issue how easy to fix it is. It wasn't any easier to fix issues on my 2008 DLP than my 2006 one. This is because of poor quality control during manufacturing and the flimsyness of the bezels. I keep returning them until I get one I can live with, but I've never had a "perfect" one.
LED will have to be replaced by a tech, I always purchase extended warranty on DLP. Not sure if Samsung will even have parts by the time mine needs replaced, I'm hoping to get between 5-10 years out of it.
This is a "new" TV, it is 2 years old, I really doubt Mits has put many new dollars into DLP tech besides LaserVue in the last couple years, but I could be wrong.
$99 is a good price for a bulb, but bulbs start out bright and get dim, and the hours is just an estimate. I got much less than rated on many bulbs in my original RP DLP. Plus you have the whole color wheel thing that sucks worse than the bulb--wait time for startup is much higher, more moving parts, noisy.
I think all DLPs overscan to a certain extent, although there are pic settings to reduce it but you lose 1:1 mapping which I think 3D vision requires to work.
Depends on the geometry issue how easy to fix it is. It wasn't any easier to fix issues on my 2008 DLP than my 2006 one. This is because of poor quality control during manufacturing and the flimsyness of the bezels. I keep returning them until I get one I can live with, but I've never had a "perfect" one.
LED will have to be replaced by a tech, I always purchase extended warranty on DLP. Not sure if Samsung will even have parts by the time mine needs replaced, I'm hoping to get between 5-10 years out of it.
u are right about the geometry issues. it depends on manufacturing and shipping quality. i quess i got lucky on my 65". i can tweak it to be straight if i want. the 60" and the 83" are much better according to AVS forums.
hopefully dlp led comes down in price.
[quote name='turls' post='993955' date='Feb 2 2010, 08:30 AM']This is a "new" TV, it is 2 years old, I really doubt Mits has put many new dollars into DLP tech besides LaserVue in the last couple years, but I could be wrong.
$99 is a good price for a bulb, but bulbs start out bright and get dim, and the hours is just an estimate. I got much less than rated on many bulbs in my original RP DLP. Plus you have the whole color wheel thing that sucks worse than the bulb--wait time for startup is much higher, more moving parts, noisy.
I think all DLPs overscan to a certain extent, although there are pic settings to reduce it but you lose 1:1 mapping which I think 3D vision requires to work.
Depends on the geometry issue how easy to fix it is. It wasn't any easier to fix issues on my 2008 DLP than my 2006 one. This is because of poor quality control during manufacturing and the flimsyness of the bezels. I keep returning them until I get one I can live with, but I've never had a "perfect" one.
LED will have to be replaced by a tech, I always purchase extended warranty on DLP. Not sure if Samsung will even have parts by the time mine needs replaced, I'm hoping to get between 5-10 years out of it.[/quote]
u are right about the geometry issues. it depends on manufacturing and shipping quality. i quess i got lucky on my 65". i can tweak it to be straight if i want. the 60" and the 83" are much better according to AVS forums.
hopefully dlp led comes down in price.
[quote name='turls' post='993955' date='Feb 2 2010, 08:30 AM']This is a "new" TV, it is 2 years old, I really doubt Mits has put many new dollars into DLP tech besides LaserVue in the last couple years, but I could be wrong.
$99 is a good price for a bulb, but bulbs start out bright and get dim, and the hours is just an estimate. I got much less than rated on many bulbs in my original RP DLP. Plus you have the whole color wheel thing that sucks worse than the bulb--wait time for startup is much higher, more moving parts, noisy.
I think all DLPs overscan to a certain extent, although there are pic settings to reduce it but you lose 1:1 mapping which I think 3D vision requires to work.
Depends on the geometry issue how easy to fix it is. It wasn't any easier to fix issues on my 2008 DLP than my 2006 one. This is because of poor quality control during manufacturing and the flimsyness of the bezels. I keep returning them until I get one I can live with, but I've never had a "perfect" one.
LED will have to be replaced by a tech, I always purchase extended warranty on DLP. Not sure if Samsung will even have parts by the time mine needs replaced, I'm hoping to get between 5-10 years out of it.
System:
Intel I7 920 overclocked to 4ghz
Asus Rampage Extreme II
2 Ge-force 480 in SLI
GTX 295 PhysX Card
12gb ddr3 2000mhz ram
Intel SSD in RAID 0
BR RW
1000w Sony surround sound
NVIDIA 3D Vision
3d displays tested:
Mitsubishi 65" DLP 3d HDTV (good old 1080p checkerboard since 2007!!!)
Panasonic VT25 (nice 2d but I returned it due to cross talk)
Acer H5360 720p on 130" screen (the best 3d)
23" Acer LCD monitor (horrible cross talk- sold it)
Samsung 65D8000