Compatibility between NVidia 3D Vision and Intel InTru 3D technology
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Hi everyone! That's my first topic, that I've started here.
I have a doubt. I have processor i3-3220 with intel graphics hd 2500 (intel intru 3d included).
Right now i’m going to buy monitor from this list:
– ASUS VG278H;
– ASUS VG278HE;
– BenQ XL2720Z;
– BenQ XL2720T.
All of these monitors are supported by NVidia 3D Vision.
Besides that i want to buy NVIDIA 3D Vision 2 Wireless Glasses Kit.
And the question is:
With all this items will it be possible to organize 3D playback?
In other words, can Intel Graphics 'replace' GPU from NVidia and be capable of organize 3D playback?
Hi everyone! That's my first topic, that I've started here.
I have a doubt. I have processor i3-3220 with intel graphics hd 2500 (intel intru 3d included).
Right now i’m going to buy monitor from this list:
– ASUS VG278H;
– ASUS VG278HE;
– BenQ XL2720Z;
– BenQ XL2720T.
All of these monitors are supported by NVidia 3D Vision.
Besides that i want to buy NVIDIA 3D Vision 2 Wireless Glasses Kit.
And the question is:
With all this items will it be possible to organize 3D playback?
In other words, can Intel Graphics 'replace' GPU from NVidia and be capable of organize 3D playback?
Nope...a Nvidia GPU is required, otherwise the drivers will not load.
You might be able to use TriDef, but I wouldn't purchase a 3D Vision monitor.
If you did, you would have to buy one with an internal emitter and use it via a HDMI connection in side by side mode.(only a few support this feature)
Your better option would be a Samsung 3D monitor or one that's on TriDefs approved list.
Also know that the intel integrated GPUs are weak and your proformance will be terrible.
http://www.tridef.com/download/TriDef-3D-latest.html
[quote="D-Man11"]
If you did, you would have to buy one with an internal emitter and use it via a HDMI connection in side by side mode.(only a few support this feature)
[/quote]
What do you mean by internal emitter? I remember that ASUS VG278H comes with internal emitter. Or do you mean something else?
Sorry, this isn't going to work. You need a nVidia graphics card. This is not optional.
What exactly do you want to do? If it's just movie playback, you'd probably be better off buying a 3D TV and a cheap blu-ray player.
I could have swore that someone said that they could use their monitor that has an internal emitter with a standalone blu-ray player.
Are you sure that the emitter driver isn't included in the moniters drivers?
I thought that was the idea of the internal emitters. To make the monitors compatible with HDMI 1.4 compliant devices other than PCs with Nvidia GPUs.
[quote="D-Man11"]I could have swore that someone said that they could use their monitor that has an internal emitter with a standalone blu-ray player.
Are you sure that the emitter driver isn't included in the moniters drivers?
I thought that was the idea of the internal emitters. To make the monitors compatible with HDMI 1.4 compliant devices other than PCs with Nvidia GPUs.[/quote]
You are correct. I have a BenQ XL2420TX, which is a 3D vision 2 monitor that has a built in emitter, and I'm able to use it for 3D playback with my PS3 and Xbox 360 over HDMI, which was the primary reason I upgraded from an Asus 3D Vision 1 monitor that did not have the integrated emitter... sadly, I had no idea 3D was entirely crap on consoles, but at least I got a lightboost upgrade out of it! ;)
D-Man11 said:I could have swore that someone said that they could use their monitor that has an internal emitter with a standalone blu-ray player.
Are you sure that the emitter driver isn't included in the moniters drivers?
I thought that was the idea of the internal emitters. To make the monitors compatible with HDMI 1.4 compliant devices other than PCs with Nvidia GPUs.
You are correct. I have a BenQ XL2420TX, which is a 3D vision 2 monitor that has a built in emitter, and I'm able to use it for 3D playback with my PS3 and Xbox 360 over HDMI, which was the primary reason I upgraded from an Asus 3D Vision 1 monitor that did not have the integrated emitter... sadly, I had no idea 3D was entirely crap on consoles, but at least I got a lightboost upgrade out of it! ;)
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[quote="D-Man11"]I could have swore that someone said that they could use their monitor that has an internal emitter with a standalone blu-ray player.[/quote]
From what I've read, that works on some (but not all) monitors with internal emitters. I have a VG278H, and it works for me. But I've seen multiple reports from other people with this monitor who can't get it to work.
Really though, if all you want is movies you can get a bigger TV for a similar price to what you'd pay for a monitor.
D-Man11 said:I could have swore that someone said that they could use their monitor that has an internal emitter with a standalone blu-ray player.
From what I've read, that works on some (but not all) monitors with internal emitters. I have a VG278H, and it works for me. But I've seen multiple reports from other people with this monitor who can't get it to work.
Really though, if all you want is movies you can get a bigger TV for a similar price to what you'd pay for a monitor.
Playing games using buid-in Intel graphics isn't good idea at all bacause poor perfomance compared to discret videocards. Real geometric 3D utilize much power to work smoothly
Playing games using buid-in Intel graphics isn't good idea at all bacause poor perfomance compared to discret videocards. Real geometric 3D utilize much power to work smoothly
[quote="Pirateguybrush"]What exactly do you want to do? If it's just movie playback, you'd probably be better off buying a 3D TV and a cheap blu-ray player.[/quote]
Right now i want to buy a new monitor, not TV. Because I hardly ever imagine myself with writting this post on 47" TV.
I understant Intel GPU is weak and I don't want to play games, only 3D content (films, clips, pictures).
[quote="D-Man11"]If you did, you would have to buy one with an internal emitter and use it via a HDMI connection in side by side mode.(only a few support this feature)
[/quote]
[quote="D-Man11"]I thought that was the idea of the internal emitters. To make the monitors compatible with HDMI 1.4 compliant devices other than PCs with Nvidia GPUs.[/quote]
I totally understand what you want to say. But there are more questions:
- will this variant work with Intel HD Graphics 2500?
- actually this way of watching 3D is 3D Vision or not?
- is this possible to connect more than one glasses to that kind of emitter?
- is this possible to find a list of monitors that can work correctly in this way?
or it would be better if i ask about each model?
Pirateguybrush said:What exactly do you want to do? If it's just movie playback, you'd probably be better off buying a 3D TV and a cheap blu-ray player.
Right now i want to buy a new monitor, not TV. Because I hardly ever imagine myself with writting this post on 47" TV.
I understant Intel GPU is weak and I don't want to play games, only 3D content (films, clips, pictures).
D-Man11 said:If you did, you would have to buy one with an internal emitter and use it via a HDMI connection in side by side mode.(only a few support this feature)
D-Man11 said:I thought that was the idea of the internal emitters. To make the monitors compatible with HDMI 1.4 compliant devices other than PCs with Nvidia GPUs.
I totally understand what you want to say. But there are more questions:
- will this variant work with Intel HD Graphics 2500?
- actually this way of watching 3D is 3D Vision or not?
- is this possible to connect more than one glasses to that kind of emitter?
- is this possible to find a list of monitors that can work correctly in this way?
or it would be better if i ask about each model?
[quote="kxwilddede"]
I totally understand what you want to say. But there are more questions:
- will this variant work with Intel HD Graphics 2500?
- actually this way of watching 3D is 3D Vision or not?
- is this possible to connect more than one glasses to that kind of emitter?
- is this possible to find a list of monitors that can work correctly in this way?
or it would be better if i ask about each model?[/quote]
1. NO, It requires nvidia hardware. Do yourself a favor and buy one;)) For movies/images/videos you can safely buy a 720/730 (which I think is around a couple £):
http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gt-720
http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gt-730
2. 3D Vision IF you have a GPU (see 1) and a 3D Monitor. 3DTVPlay for TV (some projectors etc..not monitors).
3. Glasses are synched via an Infrared Emitter. You can use as many pairs of glasses you want in the same time (I tested with 5 and there wasn't any issue).
4. You can find a "somehow" list here : http://www.nvidia.co.uk/object/buy-3d-monitors-uk.html
TAKE NOTE that is not very up-to-date so not all monitors are listed there...
Bottom Line: If the monitor SAYS 3D VISION/Ready you are golden. If not it will most likely will NOT WORK !
:)
kxwilddede said:
I totally understand what you want to say. But there are more questions:
- will this variant work with Intel HD Graphics 2500?
- actually this way of watching 3D is 3D Vision or not?
- is this possible to connect more than one glasses to that kind of emitter?
- is this possible to find a list of monitors that can work correctly in this way?
or it would be better if i ask about each model?
2. 3D Vision IF you have a GPU (see 1) and a 3D Monitor. 3DTVPlay for TV (some projectors etc..not monitors).
3. Glasses are synched via an Infrared Emitter. You can use as many pairs of glasses you want in the same time (I tested with 5 and there wasn't any issue).
4. You can find a "somehow" list here : http://www.nvidia.co.uk/object/buy-3d-monitors-uk.html TAKE NOTE that is not very up-to-date so not all monitors are listed there...
Bottom Line: If the monitor SAYS 3D VISION/Ready you are golden. If not it will most likely will NOT WORK !
:)
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[b]helifax[/b],
Thank you for information. But I asked about exact situation if 3D Vision will work with Intel Graphics HD 2500 and 3D monitor with built-in emitter.
[b]D-Man11, Pirateguybrush, DJ-RK[/b],
Would you be so kind? :)
My questions are still open.
If you connect by HDMI to the monitor you should be able to run any HDMI 1.4 device in 3D like a 3D Blu-ray player or Playstation 3. You would also be able to run an nvidia computer through either 3D Vision or 3DTV Play. As you are without a nvidia computer I would imagine you will be able to run PowerDVD software on your computer for HDMI output making your laptop a blu-ray player if you have a blu-ray drive inside. Other media players might be able to output HDMI 1.4 content on HDMI.
Your monitor would behave more like a TV and the closest you'll get to nvidia is using nvidia glasses. If you want gaming I would suggest getting a nvidia system replacing your current laptop.
I might have overlooked things like Tridef but this is not really the forum to discuss non-nvidia gaming solutions.
If you connect by HDMI to the monitor you should be able to run any HDMI 1.4 device in 3D like a 3D Blu-ray player or Playstation 3. You would also be able to run an nvidia computer through either 3D Vision or 3DTV Play. As you are without a nvidia computer I would imagine you will be able to run PowerDVD software on your computer for HDMI output making your laptop a blu-ray player if you have a blu-ray drive inside. Other media players might be able to output HDMI 1.4 content on HDMI.
Your monitor would behave more like a TV and the closest you'll get to nvidia is using nvidia glasses. If you want gaming I would suggest getting a nvidia system replacing your current laptop.
I might have overlooked things like Tridef but this is not really the forum to discuss non-nvidia gaming solutions.
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[quote="kxwilddede"] I asked about exact situation if 3D Vision will work with Intel Graphics HD 2500 and 3D monitor with built-in emitter.[/quote]
You've already been told 3D Vision "WILL NOT" work unless you meet the requirements for using Nvidia's stereoscopic gaming middleware. Mainly it "REQUIRES" that you have a Nvidia GPU, among other things.
[quote="kxwilddede"]I don't want to play games, only 3D content (films, clips, pictures).[/quote]
Then why the hell would you want to get a 3D Vision monitor? There are other monitors(or 3D HDTVs) that would better suit your needs.
Also know this...3D content in video and normal non-gaming pictures in "No Way" compares to the stereoscopic effect that can be experienced in games when a system is properly configured. So limiting yourself to non-gaming 3D is a disservice to yourself.
kxwilddede said: I asked about exact situation if 3D Vision will work with Intel Graphics HD 2500 and 3D monitor with built-in emitter.
You've already been told 3D Vision "WILL NOT" work unless you meet the requirements for using Nvidia's stereoscopic gaming middleware. Mainly it "REQUIRES" that you have a Nvidia GPU, among other things.
kxwilddede said:I don't want to play games, only 3D content (films, clips, pictures).
Then why the hell would you want to get a 3D Vision monitor? There are other monitors(or 3D HDTVs) that would better suit your needs.
Also know this...3D content in video and normal non-gaming pictures in "No Way" compares to the stereoscopic effect that can be experienced in games when a system is properly configured. So limiting yourself to non-gaming 3D is a disservice to yourself.
[b]D-Man11[/b],
Ok. Will not. I undestand it from your first "Nope..."
But how are you going to call that variant when 3D can be watched using HDMI 1.4 compliant devices without NVIdia GPU and using 3d active monitor compatible with Nvidia 3D Vision. In this post ([url]https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/804404/3d-vision/compatibility-between-nvidia-3d-vision-and-intel-intru-3d-technology/post/4427228/#4427228[/url]) I meant and I asked about this exact variant.
[quote="D-Man11"]
Then why the hell would you want to get a 3D Vision monitor? There are other monitors(or 3D HDTVs) that would better suit your needs.[/quote]
Because of two reasons that i undestood using Web.
1. There is no loss of resolution at vertical side in comparison with passive 3D.
2. People who can watch active 3D with you see the same quality as you whereas it can be difficult with passive 3D because of changing angle of view.
Then i started to think what 3D active monitor I should buy. And because of almost all 3d active monitors are made with Nvidia 3D Vision i started to think this is a suitable variant for me.
D-Man11 said:
Then why the hell would you want to get a 3D Vision monitor? There are other monitors(or 3D HDTVs) that would better suit your needs.
Because of two reasons that i undestood using Web.
1. There is no loss of resolution at vertical side in comparison with passive 3D.
2. People who can watch active 3D with you see the same quality as you whereas it can be difficult with passive 3D because of changing angle of view.
Then i started to think what 3D active monitor I should buy. And because of almost all 3d active monitors are made with Nvidia 3D Vision i started to think this is a suitable variant for me.
3D Vision is the name given to Nvidia's stereoscopic "gaming" middleware.
Using the monitor via a HDMI input in side by side mode "Does Not" equate to using 3D Vision!
It equates to using a 3D Vision "capable" monitor for stereo viewing of 3D rendered media input.
I can use the same monitor for a doorstop. That doesn't make it a doorstop. It also wouldn't equate to using 3D Vision, it would simply be holding the door open.
I originally assumed that you were perhaps looking to upgrade to a Nvidia system down the line for gaming. But since you are not interested in gaming it makes "zero" sense limiting yourself to side by side only.
It just isn't reasonable, I do not understand your persistence.
3D Vision is the name given to Nvidia's stereoscopic "gaming" middleware.
Using the monitor via a HDMI input in side by side mode "Does Not" equate to using 3D Vision!
It equates to using a 3D Vision "capable" monitor for stereo viewing of 3D rendered media input.
I can use the same monitor for a doorstop. That doesn't make it a doorstop. It also wouldn't equate to using 3D Vision, it would simply be holding the door open.
I originally assumed that you were perhaps looking to upgrade to a Nvidia system down the line for gaming. But since you are not interested in gaming it makes "zero" sense limiting yourself to side by side only.
It just isn't reasonable, I do not understand your persistence.
I have a doubt. I have processor i3-3220 with intel graphics hd 2500 (intel intru 3d included).
Right now i’m going to buy monitor from this list:
– ASUS VG278H;
– ASUS VG278HE;
– BenQ XL2720Z;
– BenQ XL2720T.
All of these monitors are supported by NVidia 3D Vision.
Besides that i want to buy NVIDIA 3D Vision 2 Wireless Glasses Kit.
And the question is:
With all this items will it be possible to organize 3D playback?
In other words, can Intel Graphics 'replace' GPU from NVidia and be capable of organize 3D playback?
You might be able to use TriDef, but I wouldn't purchase a 3D Vision monitor.
If you did, you would have to buy one with an internal emitter and use it via a HDMI connection in side by side mode.(only a few support this feature)
Your better option would be a Samsung 3D monitor or one that's on TriDefs approved list.
Also know that the intel integrated GPUs are weak and your proformance will be terrible.
http://www.tridef.com/download/TriDef-3D-latest.html
What do you mean by internal emitter? I remember that ASUS VG278H comes with internal emitter. Or do you mean something else?
What exactly do you want to do? If it's just movie playback, you'd probably be better off buying a 3D TV and a cheap blu-ray player.
Are you sure that the emitter driver isn't included in the moniters drivers?
I thought that was the idea of the internal emitters. To make the monitors compatible with HDMI 1.4 compliant devices other than PCs with Nvidia GPUs.
You are correct. I have a BenQ XL2420TX, which is a 3D vision 2 monitor that has a built in emitter, and I'm able to use it for 3D playback with my PS3 and Xbox 360 over HDMI, which was the primary reason I upgraded from an Asus 3D Vision 1 monitor that did not have the integrated emitter... sadly, I had no idea 3D was entirely crap on consoles, but at least I got a lightboost upgrade out of it! ;)
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From what I've read, that works on some (but not all) monitors with internal emitters. I have a VG278H, and it works for me. But I've seen multiple reports from other people with this monitor who can't get it to work.
Really though, if all you want is movies you can get a bigger TV for a similar price to what you'd pay for a monitor.
Right now i want to buy a new monitor, not TV. Because I hardly ever imagine myself with writting this post on 47" TV.
I understant Intel GPU is weak and I don't want to play games, only 3D content (films, clips, pictures).
I totally understand what you want to say. But there are more questions:
- will this variant work with Intel HD Graphics 2500?
- actually this way of watching 3D is 3D Vision or not?
- is this possible to connect more than one glasses to that kind of emitter?
- is this possible to find a list of monitors that can work correctly in this way?
or it would be better if i ask about each model?
1. NO, It requires nvidia hardware. Do yourself a favor and buy one;)) For movies/images/videos you can safely buy a 720/730 (which I think is around a couple £):
http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gt-720
http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gt-730
2. 3D Vision IF you have a GPU (see 1) and a 3D Monitor. 3DTVPlay for TV (some projectors etc..not monitors).
3. Glasses are synched via an Infrared Emitter. You can use as many pairs of glasses you want in the same time (I tested with 5 and there wasn't any issue).
4. You can find a "somehow" list here : http://www.nvidia.co.uk/object/buy-3d-monitors-uk.html
TAKE NOTE that is not very up-to-date so not all monitors are listed there...
Bottom Line: If the monitor SAYS 3D VISION/Ready you are golden. If not it will most likely will NOT WORK !
:)
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3x 3D Vision Ready Asus VG278HE monitors (5760x1080).
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Asus Maximus XI Hero Mobo.
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Thank you for information. But I asked about exact situation if 3D Vision will work with Intel Graphics HD 2500 and 3D monitor with built-in emitter.
D-Man11, Pirateguybrush, DJ-RK,
Would you be so kind? :)
My questions are still open.
Your monitor would behave more like a TV and the closest you'll get to nvidia is using nvidia glasses. If you want gaming I would suggest getting a nvidia system replacing your current laptop.
I might have overlooked things like Tridef but this is not really the forum to discuss non-nvidia gaming solutions.
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You've already been told 3D Vision "WILL NOT" work unless you meet the requirements for using Nvidia's stereoscopic gaming middleware. Mainly it "REQUIRES" that you have a Nvidia GPU, among other things.
Then why the hell would you want to get a 3D Vision monitor? There are other monitors(or 3D HDTVs) that would better suit your needs.
Also know this...3D content in video and normal non-gaming pictures in "No Way" compares to the stereoscopic effect that can be experienced in games when a system is properly configured. So limiting yourself to non-gaming 3D is a disservice to yourself.
Ok. Will not. I undestand it from your first "Nope..."
But how are you going to call that variant when 3D can be watched using HDMI 1.4 compliant devices without NVIdia GPU and using 3d active monitor compatible with Nvidia 3D Vision. In this post (https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/804404/3d-vision/compatibility-between-nvidia-3d-vision-and-intel-intru-3d-technology/post/4427228/#4427228) I meant and I asked about this exact variant.
Because of two reasons that i undestood using Web.
1. There is no loss of resolution at vertical side in comparison with passive 3D.
2. People who can watch active 3D with you see the same quality as you whereas it can be difficult with passive 3D because of changing angle of view.
Then i started to think what 3D active monitor I should buy. And because of almost all 3d active monitors are made with Nvidia 3D Vision i started to think this is a suitable variant for me.
Using the monitor via a HDMI input in side by side mode "Does Not" equate to using 3D Vision!
It equates to using a 3D Vision "capable" monitor for stereo viewing of 3D rendered media input.
I can use the same monitor for a doorstop. That doesn't make it a doorstop. It also wouldn't equate to using 3D Vision, it would simply be holding the door open.
I originally assumed that you were perhaps looking to upgrade to a Nvidia system down the line for gaming. But since you are not interested in gaming it makes "zero" sense limiting yourself to side by side only.
It just isn't reasonable, I do not understand your persistence.