I was wondering, I heard DLP 1080p screens are the best for 3D gaming, ghosting wise etc.
I came across this WD-60735 screen from Mits, now I read some stuff that in order to get 3D gaming/movies on such a big screen you gotta go 1080 resolution and you if wont put your graphics on 1080 it will not go the full 60inch.
So I was wondering, apart from gaming 3D on a DLP 60 inch tv how about just normal 2D gaming on a DLP 60 inc tv for those games which rock but arnt 3D ready. And if you would put a 2D game on lets say 1680-1050 would it go full screen or just partial as I saw on a youtube instrucion vid.
So basicly, would it be smart to go 60 inc DLP TV to do semi 3D/2D gaming on max screen ? Or should I say, is it worth it ?
Or I could put it like this, if you had plenty of money would you buy a 60 inch DLP tv screen or a regular 24 inch LCD/TFT screen for gaming. And what would be the big difference between the two.
And how would you compare gaming on 60 inch DLP tv or just like 22/24 inch LCD/TFT ?
Rig
CPU:Nvidia GTX280 (stock)
GPU:Intel core 2 duo E8500 @ 3.2Ghz
OS: Vista 64 bit SP2
Memory: Geil 4GB DDR2 PC2 6400 800MHz
Mobo:Asus P5-Q
I was wondering, I heard DLP 1080p screens are the best for 3D gaming, ghosting wise etc.
I came across this WD-60735 screen from Mits, now I read some stuff that in order to get 3D gaming/movies on such a big screen you gotta go 1080 resolution and you if wont put your graphics on 1080 it will not go the full 60inch.
So I was wondering, apart from gaming 3D on a DLP 60 inch tv how about just normal 2D gaming on a DLP 60 inc tv for those games which rock but arnt 3D ready. And if you would put a 2D game on lets say 1680-1050 would it go full screen or just partial as I saw on a youtube instrucion vid.
So basicly, would it be smart to go 60 inc DLP TV to do semi 3D/2D gaming on max screen ? Or should I say, is it worth it ?
Or I could put it like this, if you had plenty of money would you buy a 60 inch DLP tv screen or a regular 24 inch LCD/TFT screen for gaming. And what would be the big difference between the two.
And how would you compare gaming on 60 inch DLP tv or just like 22/24 inch LCD/TFT ?
If you had plenty of money would you buy a 60 inch DLP tv screen?
YES and get the nvidia 3d vision kit shortly thereafter.
I did have an extra windfall i used to get my WD-60735 and went from a 19 inch crt with nvida 3d vision to the mitz.
i run all my games at 1080. love that thing to death.
3d games are completely awesome, 2d games are awesome!!
my xbox360 looks perfect and my ps3 does to. (my xbox 360 looks better on the mitz than it does my 60 inch sxrd2 sony upstairs)
The only reason i would ever get a different extra monitor is if i needed to edit a ton of text or other stuff, i have not mesed with the service menu on my set yet but text can be a little blurry sometimes in windows (Not in games). so if i needed it for work or something i would probally get a second monitor.
more on this here [url="http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=158413&pid=994210&mode=threaded&start=#entry994210"]http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtop...rt=#entry994210[/url]
plus i think it has alot to do with how far back i am sitting now as well.
Otherwise I feel i have made a great choice with this tv. It was ether this or projector for me for 3d gaming and i went this route.
running a gtx295
I do not regret this choice.
I will check on what resolutions i can run not in 3d if you wish when i am at home in front of it.
I know I have run some that were not 1080 for sure but Ill see if i can remember what res i used.
PIDD
If you had plenty of money would you buy a 60 inch DLP tv screen?
YES and get the nvidia 3d vision kit shortly thereafter.
I did have an extra windfall i used to get my WD-60735 and went from a 19 inch crt with nvida 3d vision to the mitz.
i run all my games at 1080. love that thing to death.
3d games are completely awesome, 2d games are awesome!!
my xbox360 looks perfect and my ps3 does to. (my xbox 360 looks better on the mitz than it does my 60 inch sxrd2 sony upstairs)
The only reason i would ever get a different extra monitor is if i needed to edit a ton of text or other stuff, i have not mesed with the service menu on my set yet but text can be a little blurry sometimes in windows (Not in games). so if i needed it for work or something i would probally get a second monitor.
[quote name='dwenzel' post='994764' date='Feb 3 2010, 10:20 PM']If you had plenty of money would you buy a 60 inch DLP tv screen?
YES and get the nvidia 3d vision kit shortly thereafter.
I did have an extra windfall i used to get my WD-60735 and went from a 19 inch crt with nvida 3d vision to the mitz.
i run all my games at 1080. love that thing to death.
3d games are completely awesome, 2d games are awesome!!
my xbox360 looks perfect and my ps3 does to. (my xbox 360 looks better on the mitz than it does my 60 inch sxrd2 sony upstairs)
The only reason i would ever get a different extra monitor is if i needed to edit a ton of text or other stuff, i have not mesed with the service menu on my set yet but text can be a little blurry sometimes in windows (Not in games). so if i needed it for work or something i would probally get a second monitor. Otherwise I feel i have made a great choice with this tv. It was ether this or projector for me for 3d gaming and i went this route.
running a gtx295
I do not regret this choice.
I will check on what resolutions i can run not in 3d if you wish when i am at home in front of it.
I know I have run some that were not 1080 for sure but Ill see if i can remember what res i used.
PIDD[/quote]
[quote name='dwenzel' post='994764' date='Feb 3 2010, 10:20 PM']If you had plenty of money would you buy a 60 inch DLP tv screen?
YES and get the nvidia 3d vision kit shortly thereafter.
I did have an extra windfall i used to get my WD-60735 and went from a 19 inch crt with nvida 3d vision to the mitz.
i run all my games at 1080. love that thing to death.
3d games are completely awesome, 2d games are awesome!!
my xbox360 looks perfect and my ps3 does to. (my xbox 360 looks better on the mitz than it does my 60 inch sxrd2 sony upstairs)
The only reason i would ever get a different extra monitor is if i needed to edit a ton of text or other stuff, i have not mesed with the service menu on my set yet but text can be a little blurry sometimes in windows (Not in games). so if i needed it for work or something i would probally get a second monitor. Otherwise I feel i have made a great choice with this tv. It was ether this or projector for me for 3d gaming and i went this route.
running a gtx295
I do not regret this choice.
I will check on what resolutions i can run not in 3d if you wish when i am at home in front of it.
I know I have run some that were not 1080 for sure but Ill see if i can remember what res i used.
I have a 65" mit dlp. i am very pleased with the set. very good for the price. i got it for 1050$ on black Friday. here is a forum with tons of user information and feedback:
[url="http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=17396070#post17396070"]http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread....70#post17396070[/url]
and the user manual:
[url="http://www.mitsubishi-tv.com/pdf/C9-737-837_OG.pdf"]http://www.mitsubishi-tv.com/pdf/C9-737-837_OG.pdf[/url]
the tv supports many pc resolutions read up in the manual. some will have black bars and others will fill the full screen- its all in the manual.
the main drawback for me has been the overscan issue. you have to manually lower the resolution to fit the screen- so its not really 1080p im running 1830x1018. you could run 1080p but you miss out on some parts of the screen. i personally dont notice any difference in image quality with the lower resolution. all the games i play support the custom resolution created with Nvidia's drivers- some are easier than others- but all have worked for me.
some people have to turn off the geometry correction to get small text to be clear (like the file menu on internet explorer) and also have a 1:1 pixel ratio. on my tv with the geometry off there is a slight bow on the top of the screen (the top bar of IE). its really easy to switch between geometry on or off it takes me less than 10 seconds. i cannot notice a difference in gaming or movie quality between the two settings. im not really having any problems reading text with geometry on (it is slightly more blurry) so that's how i run my tv- others who are also using the tv as primary monitor complain about this and run geometry off. you could run a dual display set up and use your old monitor for regular typing and web surfing.
i really like the color of the set- i think it rivals more expensive tvs- and it is very adjustable has many features that 3000-4000$$ tvs have. the 3d Vison effect is simply amazing. i can run 100 percent depth with no ghosting at all!!! (just be sure to use the latest drivers- they are much improved for my hdtv).
i have no issues running crysis in 2d on my tv (crysis does not work for me in 2d). i just use the custom resolution i created in the control panel. even games with only good support in 3d are still very impressive- however games with full 3d vision support are amazing!
honestly you could get a better tv if you are willing to spend 3-5 times more $$- just be sure you get a set that is on Nvidias supported hardware list for 3d vision- thats the only way to guarantee you will have a sucessful experience. for the price though- this tv cannot be beat.
I would not recommend this technology for someone who is not a power user. Like any cutting edge technology there is allot of quirks. 3d is still in its infancy. any game that has full 3d support is plug and play though....
I was wondering, I heard DLP 1080p screens are the best for 3D gaming, ghosting wise etc.
I came across this WD-60735 screen from Mits, now I read some stuff that in order to get 3D gaming/movies on such a big screen you gotta go 1080 resolution and you if wont put your graphics on 1080 it will not go the full 60inch.
So I was wondering, apart from gaming 3D on a DLP 60 inch tv how about just normal 2D gaming on a DLP 60 inc tv for those games which rock but arnt 3D ready. And if you would put a 2D game on lets say 1680-1050 would it go full screen or just partial as I saw on a youtube instrucion vid.
So basicly, would it be smart to go 60 inc DLP TV to do semi 3D/2D gaming on max screen ? Or should I say, is it worth it ?
Or I could put it like this, if you had plenty of money would you buy a 60 inch DLP tv screen or a regular 24 inch LCD/TFT screen for gaming. And what would be the big difference between the two.
Rig
CPU:Nvidia GTX280 (stock)
GPU:Intel core 2 duo E8500 @ 3.2Ghz
OS: Vista 64 bit SP2
Memory: Geil 4GB DDR2 PC2 6400 800MHz
Mobo:Asus P5-Q[/quote]
I have a 65" mit dlp. i am very pleased with the set. very good for the price. i got it for 1050$ on black Friday. here is a forum with tons of user information and feedback:
the tv supports many pc resolutions read up in the manual. some will have black bars and others will fill the full screen- its all in the manual.
the main drawback for me has been the overscan issue. you have to manually lower the resolution to fit the screen- so its not really 1080p im running 1830x1018. you could run 1080p but you miss out on some parts of the screen. i personally dont notice any difference in image quality with the lower resolution. all the games i play support the custom resolution created with Nvidia's drivers- some are easier than others- but all have worked for me.
some people have to turn off the geometry correction to get small text to be clear (like the file menu on internet explorer) and also have a 1:1 pixel ratio. on my tv with the geometry off there is a slight bow on the top of the screen (the top bar of IE). its really easy to switch between geometry on or off it takes me less than 10 seconds. i cannot notice a difference in gaming or movie quality between the two settings. im not really having any problems reading text with geometry on (it is slightly more blurry) so that's how i run my tv- others who are also using the tv as primary monitor complain about this and run geometry off. you could run a dual display set up and use your old monitor for regular typing and web surfing.
i really like the color of the set- i think it rivals more expensive tvs- and it is very adjustable has many features that 3000-4000$$ tvs have. the 3d Vison effect is simply amazing. i can run 100 percent depth with no ghosting at all!!! (just be sure to use the latest drivers- they are much improved for my hdtv).
i have no issues running crysis in 2d on my tv (crysis does not work for me in 2d). i just use the custom resolution i created in the control panel. even games with only good support in 3d are still very impressive- however games with full 3d vision support are amazing!
honestly you could get a better tv if you are willing to spend 3-5 times more $$- just be sure you get a set that is on Nvidias supported hardware list for 3d vision- thats the only way to guarantee you will have a sucessful experience. for the price though- this tv cannot be beat.
I would not recommend this technology for someone who is not a power user. Like any cutting edge technology there is allot of quirks. 3d is still in its infancy. any game that has full 3d support is plug and play though....
I was wondering, I heard DLP 1080p screens are the best for 3D gaming, ghosting wise etc.
I came across this WD-60735 screen from Mits, now I read some stuff that in order to get 3D gaming/movies on such a big screen you gotta go 1080 resolution and you if wont put your graphics on 1080 it will not go the full 60inch.
So I was wondering, apart from gaming 3D on a DLP 60 inch tv how about just normal 2D gaming on a DLP 60 inc tv for those games which rock but arnt 3D ready. And if you would put a 2D game on lets say 1680-1050 would it go full screen or just partial as I saw on a youtube instrucion vid.
So basicly, would it be smart to go 60 inc DLP TV to do semi 3D/2D gaming on max screen ? Or should I say, is it worth it ?
Or I could put it like this, if you had plenty of money would you buy a 60 inch DLP tv screen or a regular 24 inch LCD/TFT screen for gaming. And what would be the big difference between the two.
Rig
CPU:Nvidia GTX280 (stock)
GPU:Intel core 2 duo E8500 @ 3.2Ghz
OS: Vista 64 bit SP2
Memory: Geil 4GB DDR2 PC2 6400 800MHz
Mobo:Asus P5-Q
System:
Intel I7 920 overclocked to 4ghz
Asus Rampage Extreme II
2 Ge-force 480 in SLI
GTX 295 PhysX Card
12gb ddr3 2000mhz ram
Intel SSD in RAID 0
BR RW
1000w Sony surround sound
NVIDIA 3D Vision
3d displays tested:
Mitsubishi 65" DLP 3d HDTV (good old 1080p checkerboard since 2007!!!)
Panasonic VT25 (nice 2d but I returned it due to cross talk)
Acer H5360 720p on 130" screen (the best 3d)
23" Acer LCD monitor (horrible cross talk- sold it)
[quote name='DanielJoy' post='994788' date='Feb 3 2010, 10:51 PM']I have a 65" mit dlp. i am very pleased with the set. very good for the price. i got it for 1050$ on black Friday. here is a forum with tons of user information and feedback:
[url="http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=17396070#post17396070"]http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread....70#post17396070[/url]
and the user manual:
[url="http://www.mitsubishi-tv.com/pdf/C9-737-837_OG.pdf"]http://www.mitsubishi-tv.com/pdf/C9-737-837_OG.pdf[/url]
the tv supports many pc resolutions read up in the manual. some will have black bars and others will fill the full screen- its all in the manual.
the main drawback for me has been the overscan issue. you have to manually lower the resolution to fit the screen- so its not really 1080p im running 1830x1018. you could run 1080p but you miss out on some parts of the screen. i personally dont notice any difference in image quality with the lower resolution. all the games i play support the custom resolution created with Nvidia's drivers- some are easier than others- but all have worked for me.
some people have to turn off the geometry correction to get small text to be clear (like the file menu on internet explorer) and also have a 1:1 pixel ratio. on my tv with the geometry off there is a slight bow on the top of the screen (the top bar of IE). its really easy to switch between geometry on or off it takes me less than 10 seconds. i cannot notice a difference in gaming or movie quality between the two settings. im not really having any problems reading text with geometry on (it is slightly more blurry) so that's how i run my tv- others who are also using the tv as primary monitor complain about this and run geometry off. you could run a dual display set up and use your old monitor for regular typing and web surfing.
i really like the color of the set- i think it rivals more expensive tvs- and it is very adjustable has many features that 3000-4000$$ tvs have. the 3d Vison effect is simply amazing. i can run 100 percent depth with no ghosting at all!!! (just be sure to use the latest drivers- they are much improved for my hdtv).
i have no issues running crysis in 2d on my tv (crysis does not work for me in 2d). i just use the custom resolution i created in the control panel. even games with only good support in 3d are still very impressive- however games with full 3d vision support are amazing!
honestly you could get a better tv if you are willing to spend 3-5 times more $$- just be sure you get a set that is on Nvidias supported hardware list for 3d vision- thats the only way to guarantee you will have a sucessful experience. for the price though- this tv cannot be beat.
I would not recommend this technology for someone who is not a power user. Like any cutting edge technology there is allot of quirks. 3d is still in its infancy. any game that has full 3d support is plug and play though....
hope this helps....[/quote]
Yes it helped alot, just cant seem to find any websites for prices etc, live in The Netherlands so prolly gonna be a deal breaker for me. Seen it go for 730Euro, which is twice the price of a 23-24 inch 120hz 1080p screen, so 60 inch for 730 euro seems well worth it.
[quote name='DanielJoy' post='994788' date='Feb 3 2010, 10:51 PM']I have a 65" mit dlp. i am very pleased with the set. very good for the price. i got it for 1050$ on black Friday. here is a forum with tons of user information and feedback:
the tv supports many pc resolutions read up in the manual. some will have black bars and others will fill the full screen- its all in the manual.
the main drawback for me has been the overscan issue. you have to manually lower the resolution to fit the screen- so its not really 1080p im running 1830x1018. you could run 1080p but you miss out on some parts of the screen. i personally dont notice any difference in image quality with the lower resolution. all the games i play support the custom resolution created with Nvidia's drivers- some are easier than others- but all have worked for me.
some people have to turn off the geometry correction to get small text to be clear (like the file menu on internet explorer) and also have a 1:1 pixel ratio. on my tv with the geometry off there is a slight bow on the top of the screen (the top bar of IE). its really easy to switch between geometry on or off it takes me less than 10 seconds. i cannot notice a difference in gaming or movie quality between the two settings. im not really having any problems reading text with geometry on (it is slightly more blurry) so that's how i run my tv- others who are also using the tv as primary monitor complain about this and run geometry off. you could run a dual display set up and use your old monitor for regular typing and web surfing.
i really like the color of the set- i think it rivals more expensive tvs- and it is very adjustable has many features that 3000-4000$$ tvs have. the 3d Vison effect is simply amazing. i can run 100 percent depth with no ghosting at all!!! (just be sure to use the latest drivers- they are much improved for my hdtv).
i have no issues running crysis in 2d on my tv (crysis does not work for me in 2d). i just use the custom resolution i created in the control panel. even games with only good support in 3d are still very impressive- however games with full 3d vision support are amazing!
honestly you could get a better tv if you are willing to spend 3-5 times more $$- just be sure you get a set that is on Nvidias supported hardware list for 3d vision- thats the only way to guarantee you will have a sucessful experience. for the price though- this tv cannot be beat.
I would not recommend this technology for someone who is not a power user. Like any cutting edge technology there is allot of quirks. 3d is still in its infancy. any game that has full 3d support is plug and play though....
hope this helps....
Yes it helped alot, just cant seem to find any websites for prices etc, live in The Netherlands so prolly gonna be a deal breaker for me. Seen it go for 730Euro, which is twice the price of a 23-24 inch 120hz 1080p screen, so 60 inch for 730 euro seems well worth it.
[quote name='3Dalltheway' post='994792' date='Feb 3 2010, 02:01 PM']Yes it helped alot, just cant seem to find any websites for prices etc, live in The Netherlands so prolly gonna be a deal breaker for me. Seen it go for 730Euro, which is twice the price of a 23-24 inch 120hz 1080p screen, so 60 inch for 730 euro seems well worth it.[/quote]
you have 120volt where u live? that might be a deal breaker....
[quote name='3Dalltheway' post='994792' date='Feb 3 2010, 02:01 PM']Yes it helped alot, just cant seem to find any websites for prices etc, live in The Netherlands so prolly gonna be a deal breaker for me. Seen it go for 730Euro, which is twice the price of a 23-24 inch 120hz 1080p screen, so 60 inch for 730 euro seems well worth it.
you have 120volt where u live? that might be a deal breaker....
System:
Intel I7 920 overclocked to 4ghz
Asus Rampage Extreme II
2 Ge-force 480 in SLI
GTX 295 PhysX Card
12gb ddr3 2000mhz ram
Intel SSD in RAID 0
BR RW
1000w Sony surround sound
NVIDIA 3D Vision
3d displays tested:
Mitsubishi 65" DLP 3d HDTV (good old 1080p checkerboard since 2007!!!)
Panasonic VT25 (nice 2d but I returned it due to cross talk)
Acer H5360 720p on 130" screen (the best 3d)
23" Acer LCD monitor (horrible cross talk- sold it)
I have to agree, I love gaming (2D and 3D) on my Samsung 61". You have to create a custom resolution like was said above to get rid of overscan, but it only takes a minute to do, and you only have to do it once. For instance, mine is set to 1872x1052 to make everything fit perfectly. Heck, I don't even have a regular PC monitor anymore, I use the Samsung for everything. I set it to 720p for regular desktop use (ie, internet browsing), and use hot keys to switch between the two resolutions on the fly.
I have to agree, I love gaming (2D and 3D) on my Samsung 61". You have to create a custom resolution like was said above to get rid of overscan, but it only takes a minute to do, and you only have to do it once. For instance, mine is set to 1872x1052 to make everything fit perfectly. Heck, I don't even have a regular PC monitor anymore, I use the Samsung for everything. I set it to 720p for regular desktop use (ie, internet browsing), and use hot keys to switch between the two resolutions on the fly.
Done some searching on the Mits TV screens and noticed 2 diff series 735/737, I just cant seem to figure out the difference other then that they have slightly diff design.
Its like either WD-60735 or WD-737, hard to spot any difference, other then the 737 is a newer version but does cost more.
Done some searching on the Mits TV screens and noticed 2 diff series 735/737, I just cant seem to figure out the difference other then that they have slightly diff design.
Its like either WD-60735 or WD-737, hard to spot any difference, other then the 737 is a newer version but does cost more.
[quote name='3Dalltheway' post='995080' date='Feb 4 2010, 03:04 AM']Done some searching on the Mits TV screens and noticed 2 diff series 735/737, I just cant seem to figure out the difference other then that they have slightly diff design.
Its like either WD-60735 or WD-737, hard to spot any difference, other then the 737 is a newer version but does cost more.[/quote]
My 60" mitsu is great for the 3D except my hardware doesnt really support the 1080p in full 1080 resolution so SOME games lag like crazy and loose frame rate.. others like batman work GREAT.
That is my only complaint.. otherwise its a great tv but I too have to have everything full resolution for 3D to function.
[quote name='3Dalltheway' post='995080' date='Feb 4 2010, 03:04 AM']Done some searching on the Mits TV screens and noticed 2 diff series 735/737, I just cant seem to figure out the difference other then that they have slightly diff design.
Its like either WD-60735 or WD-737, hard to spot any difference, other then the 737 is a newer version but does cost more.
My 60" mitsu is great for the 3D except my hardware doesnt really support the 1080p in full 1080 resolution so SOME games lag like crazy and loose frame rate.. others like batman work GREAT.
That is my only complaint.. otherwise its a great tv but I too have to have everything full resolution for 3D to function.
thats a common misconception. the signal is still 1080p its just that the timings are different for pc. thats why dlp overscans. the nvidia drivers adjust the timing on the back end but the signal is still 1080p. its just how PC has to be adjusted to work on DLP tv timings.
[quote name='shdwknt' post='998841' date='Feb 10 2010, 08:37 AM']My 60" mitsu is great for the 3D except my hardware doesnt really support the 1080p in full 1080 resolution so SOME games lag like crazy and loose frame rate.. others like batman work GREAT.
That is my only complaint.. otherwise its a great tv but I too have to have everything full resolution for 3D to function.[/quote]
thats a common misconception. the signal is still 1080p its just that the timings are different for pc. thats why dlp overscans. the nvidia drivers adjust the timing on the back end but the signal is still 1080p. its just how PC has to be adjusted to work on DLP tv timings.
[quote name='shdwknt' post='998841' date='Feb 10 2010, 08:37 AM']My 60" mitsu is great for the 3D except my hardware doesnt really support the 1080p in full 1080 resolution so SOME games lag like crazy and loose frame rate.. others like batman work GREAT.
That is my only complaint.. otherwise its a great tv but I too have to have everything full resolution for 3D to function.
System:
Intel I7 920 overclocked to 4ghz
Asus Rampage Extreme II
2 Ge-force 480 in SLI
GTX 295 PhysX Card
12gb ddr3 2000mhz ram
Intel SSD in RAID 0
BR RW
1000w Sony surround sound
NVIDIA 3D Vision
3d displays tested:
Mitsubishi 65" DLP 3d HDTV (good old 1080p checkerboard since 2007!!!)
Panasonic VT25 (nice 2d but I returned it due to cross talk)
Acer H5360 720p on 130" screen (the best 3d)
23" Acer LCD monitor (horrible cross talk- sold it)
[quote name='3Dalltheway' post='994747' date='Feb 3 2010, 03:49 PM']So I was wondering, apart from gaming 3D on a DLP 60 inch tv how about just normal 2D gaming on a DLP 60 inc tv for those games which rock but arnt 3D ready.
And if you would put a 2D game on lets say 1680-1050 would it go full screen or just partial as I saw on a youtube instrucion vid.
So basicly, would it be smart to go 60 inc DLP TV to do semi 3D/2D gaming on max screen ? Or should I say, is it worth it ?
And how would you compare gaming on 60 inch DLP tv or just like 22/24 inch LCD/TFT ?[/quote]
To the first: Epic. My one friend who doesn't like 3dvision effects at all (think its his eyes, he's really weird) stops by and plays MW2 and some 1080p Wii/GameCube emus and stuff in 2D and it's awesome. I was able to totally rearrange things so that we didnt have to be all huddled around my 24" LCD on my desk and could just sit back like 6 ft+ from teh TV and have room to relax and play. Only thing i'm starting to wish is taht I would have got some wireless 360 controllers instead of the wired ones lol.
And resizing to compensate for overscan and selecting that resolution in-game w/' 3d on isn't really a problem, at least for most games released in the past 5 or so years (except odd ones like doom3 that use opengl, but those are few). Your rig should be good enough to run most games. Mine can even run gta4 in 3d with high settings and get 30fps or so for the most part. Your GPU is a bit better then mine and my CPU is better than yours, but i think you should get a smoother experience than me in most games, and i rarely have issues. I've been beating Far Cry 1 again (a whole $5 on steam now days, which i gladly paid instead of trying to get all 5 of my original CDs to read) and the 3D is really nice in it (try beating it on realistic if you like self-torture lol). Main source of annoyance for most pre-3Dvision era games will be that some of the crosshairs won't render properly and you'll have to find a way of disabling the stock ones in the command console or w/e and then hit ctrl+F12 to use nvidias overlay, which is really nice btw.
as far as DLP vs LCD, it's hard to say really since i've never done 3d on a LCD. I've heard ppl complain of image ghosting, but i've also heard ppl complain of the rainbow effect on DLPs if your shift your eyes around or on/off the screen real fast. I notice it too if i try to, but not during normal gaming/movie watching. I"m happy with my choice. You might want to try to keep an LCD hooked up as a monitor to use if you just want to turn your screen on real quick to do something, since DLPs take a min or so to warm up and dont like being switched on and off a lot. I still prefer sitting closer to a smaller LCD for certain things tho, like reading a lot of text on websites like this or something.
but in the end, you really can't beat the 60+" DLPs for any sort of entertainment, 3D or not.
[quote name='3Dalltheway' post='994747' date='Feb 3 2010, 03:49 PM']So I was wondering, apart from gaming 3D on a DLP 60 inch tv how about just normal 2D gaming on a DLP 60 inc tv for those games which rock but arnt 3D ready.
And if you would put a 2D game on lets say 1680-1050 would it go full screen or just partial as I saw on a youtube instrucion vid.
So basicly, would it be smart to go 60 inc DLP TV to do semi 3D/2D gaming on max screen ? Or should I say, is it worth it ?
And how would you compare gaming on 60 inch DLP tv or just like 22/24 inch LCD/TFT ?
To the first: Epic. My one friend who doesn't like 3dvision effects at all (think its his eyes, he's really weird) stops by and plays MW2 and some 1080p Wii/GameCube emus and stuff in 2D and it's awesome. I was able to totally rearrange things so that we didnt have to be all huddled around my 24" LCD on my desk and could just sit back like 6 ft+ from teh TV and have room to relax and play. Only thing i'm starting to wish is taht I would have got some wireless 360 controllers instead of the wired ones lol.
And resizing to compensate for overscan and selecting that resolution in-game w/' 3d on isn't really a problem, at least for most games released in the past 5 or so years (except odd ones like doom3 that use opengl, but those are few). Your rig should be good enough to run most games. Mine can even run gta4 in 3d with high settings and get 30fps or so for the most part. Your GPU is a bit better then mine and my CPU is better than yours, but i think you should get a smoother experience than me in most games, and i rarely have issues. I've been beating Far Cry 1 again (a whole $5 on steam now days, which i gladly paid instead of trying to get all 5 of my original CDs to read) and the 3D is really nice in it (try beating it on realistic if you like self-torture lol). Main source of annoyance for most pre-3Dvision era games will be that some of the crosshairs won't render properly and you'll have to find a way of disabling the stock ones in the command console or w/e and then hit ctrl+F12 to use nvidias overlay, which is really nice btw.
as far as DLP vs LCD, it's hard to say really since i've never done 3d on a LCD. I've heard ppl complain of image ghosting, but i've also heard ppl complain of the rainbow effect on DLPs if your shift your eyes around or on/off the screen real fast. I notice it too if i try to, but not during normal gaming/movie watching. I"m happy with my choice. You might want to try to keep an LCD hooked up as a monitor to use if you just want to turn your screen on real quick to do something, since DLPs take a min or so to warm up and dont like being switched on and off a lot. I still prefer sitting closer to a smaller LCD for certain things tho, like reading a lot of text on websites like this or something.
but in the end, you really can't beat the 60+" DLPs for any sort of entertainment, 3D or not.
I was wondering, I heard DLP 1080p screens are the best for 3D gaming, ghosting wise etc.
I came across this WD-60735 screen from Mits, now I read some stuff that in order to get 3D gaming/movies on such a big screen you gotta go 1080 resolution and you if wont put your graphics on 1080 it will not go the full 60inch.
So I was wondering, apart from gaming 3D on a DLP 60 inch tv how about just normal 2D gaming on a DLP 60 inc tv for those games which rock but arnt 3D ready. And if you would put a 2D game on lets say 1680-1050 would it go full screen or just partial as I saw on a youtube instrucion vid.
So basicly, would it be smart to go 60 inc DLP TV to do semi 3D/2D gaming on max screen ? Or should I say, is it worth it ?
Or I could put it like this, if you had plenty of money would you buy a 60 inch DLP tv screen or a regular 24 inch LCD/TFT screen for gaming. And what would be the big difference between the two.
And how would you compare gaming on 60 inch DLP tv or just like 22/24 inch LCD/TFT ?
Rig
CPU:Nvidia GTX280 (stock)
GPU:Intel core 2 duo E8500 @ 3.2Ghz
OS: Vista 64 bit SP2
Memory: Geil 4GB DDR2 PC2 6400 800MHz
Mobo:Asus P5-Q
I was wondering, I heard DLP 1080p screens are the best for 3D gaming, ghosting wise etc.
I came across this WD-60735 screen from Mits, now I read some stuff that in order to get 3D gaming/movies on such a big screen you gotta go 1080 resolution and you if wont put your graphics on 1080 it will not go the full 60inch.
So I was wondering, apart from gaming 3D on a DLP 60 inch tv how about just normal 2D gaming on a DLP 60 inc tv for those games which rock but arnt 3D ready. And if you would put a 2D game on lets say 1680-1050 would it go full screen or just partial as I saw on a youtube instrucion vid.
So basicly, would it be smart to go 60 inc DLP TV to do semi 3D/2D gaming on max screen ? Or should I say, is it worth it ?
Or I could put it like this, if you had plenty of money would you buy a 60 inch DLP tv screen or a regular 24 inch LCD/TFT screen for gaming. And what would be the big difference between the two.
And how would you compare gaming on 60 inch DLP tv or just like 22/24 inch LCD/TFT ?
Rig
CPU:Nvidia GTX280 (stock)
GPU:Intel core 2 duo E8500 @ 3.2Ghz
OS: Vista 64 bit SP2
Memory: Geil 4GB DDR2 PC2 6400 800MHz
Mobo:Asus P5-Q
YES and get the nvidia 3d vision kit shortly thereafter.
I did have an extra windfall i used to get my WD-60735 and went from a 19 inch crt with nvida 3d vision to the mitz.
i run all my games at 1080. love that thing to death.
3d games are completely awesome, 2d games are awesome!!
my xbox360 looks perfect and my ps3 does to. (my xbox 360 looks better on the mitz than it does my 60 inch sxrd2 sony upstairs)
The only reason i would ever get a different extra monitor is if i needed to edit a ton of text or other stuff, i have not mesed with the service menu on my set yet but text can be a little blurry sometimes in windows (Not in games). so if i needed it for work or something i would probally get a second monitor.
more on this here [url="http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=158413&pid=994210&mode=threaded&start=#entry994210"]http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtop...rt=#entry994210[/url]
plus i think it has alot to do with how far back i am sitting now as well.
Otherwise I feel i have made a great choice with this tv. It was ether this or projector for me for 3d gaming and i went this route.
running a gtx295
I do not regret this choice.
I will check on what resolutions i can run not in 3d if you wish when i am at home in front of it.
I know I have run some that were not 1080 for sure but Ill see if i can remember what res i used.
PIDD
YES and get the nvidia 3d vision kit shortly thereafter.
I did have an extra windfall i used to get my WD-60735 and went from a 19 inch crt with nvida 3d vision to the mitz.
i run all my games at 1080. love that thing to death.
3d games are completely awesome, 2d games are awesome!!
my xbox360 looks perfect and my ps3 does to. (my xbox 360 looks better on the mitz than it does my 60 inch sxrd2 sony upstairs)
The only reason i would ever get a different extra monitor is if i needed to edit a ton of text or other stuff, i have not mesed with the service menu on my set yet but text can be a little blurry sometimes in windows (Not in games). so if i needed it for work or something i would probally get a second monitor.
more on this here http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtop...rt=#entry994210
plus i think it has alot to do with how far back i am sitting now as well.
Otherwise I feel i have made a great choice with this tv. It was ether this or projector for me for 3d gaming and i went this route.
running a gtx295
I do not regret this choice.
I will check on what resolutions i can run not in 3d if you wish when i am at home in front of it.
I know I have run some that were not 1080 for sure but Ill see if i can remember what res i used.
PIDD
YES and get the nvidia 3d vision kit shortly thereafter.
I did have an extra windfall i used to get my WD-60735 and went from a 19 inch crt with nvida 3d vision to the mitz.
i run all my games at 1080. love that thing to death.
3d games are completely awesome, 2d games are awesome!!
my xbox360 looks perfect and my ps3 does to. (my xbox 360 looks better on the mitz than it does my 60 inch sxrd2 sony upstairs)
The only reason i would ever get a different extra monitor is if i needed to edit a ton of text or other stuff, i have not mesed with the service menu on my set yet but text can be a little blurry sometimes in windows (Not in games). so if i needed it for work or something i would probally get a second monitor. Otherwise I feel i have made a great choice with this tv. It was ether this or projector for me for 3d gaming and i went this route.
running a gtx295
I do not regret this choice.
I will check on what resolutions i can run not in 3d if you wish when i am at home in front of it.
I know I have run some that were not 1080 for sure but Ill see if i can remember what res i used.
PIDD[/quote]
This was really helpfull thnx :)
Especially the bit about just gaming on 60 inch.
YES and get the nvidia 3d vision kit shortly thereafter.
I did have an extra windfall i used to get my WD-60735 and went from a 19 inch crt with nvida 3d vision to the mitz.
i run all my games at 1080. love that thing to death.
3d games are completely awesome, 2d games are awesome!!
my xbox360 looks perfect and my ps3 does to. (my xbox 360 looks better on the mitz than it does my 60 inch sxrd2 sony upstairs)
The only reason i would ever get a different extra monitor is if i needed to edit a ton of text or other stuff, i have not mesed with the service menu on my set yet but text can be a little blurry sometimes in windows (Not in games). so if i needed it for work or something i would probally get a second monitor. Otherwise I feel i have made a great choice with this tv. It was ether this or projector for me for 3d gaming and i went this route.
running a gtx295
I do not regret this choice.
I will check on what resolutions i can run not in 3d if you wish when i am at home in front of it.
I know I have run some that were not 1080 for sure but Ill see if i can remember what res i used.
PIDD
This was really helpfull thnx :)
Especially the bit about just gaming on 60 inch.
[url="http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=17396070#post17396070"]http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread....70#post17396070[/url]
and the user manual:
[url="http://www.mitsubishi-tv.com/pdf/C9-737-837_OG.pdf"]http://www.mitsubishi-tv.com/pdf/C9-737-837_OG.pdf[/url]
the tv supports many pc resolutions read up in the manual. some will have black bars and others will fill the full screen- its all in the manual.
the main drawback for me has been the overscan issue. you have to manually lower the resolution to fit the screen- so its not really 1080p im running 1830x1018. you could run 1080p but you miss out on some parts of the screen. i personally dont notice any difference in image quality with the lower resolution. all the games i play support the custom resolution created with Nvidia's drivers- some are easier than others- but all have worked for me.
some people have to turn off the geometry correction to get small text to be clear (like the file menu on internet explorer) and also have a 1:1 pixel ratio. on my tv with the geometry off there is a slight bow on the top of the screen (the top bar of IE). its really easy to switch between geometry on or off it takes me less than 10 seconds. i cannot notice a difference in gaming or movie quality between the two settings. im not really having any problems reading text with geometry on (it is slightly more blurry) so that's how i run my tv- others who are also using the tv as primary monitor complain about this and run geometry off. you could run a dual display set up and use your old monitor for regular typing and web surfing.
i really like the color of the set- i think it rivals more expensive tvs- and it is very adjustable has many features that 3000-4000$$ tvs have. the 3d Vison effect is simply amazing. i can run 100 percent depth with no ghosting at all!!! (just be sure to use the latest drivers- they are much improved for my hdtv).
i have no issues running crysis in 2d on my tv (crysis does not work for me in 2d). i just use the custom resolution i created in the control panel. even games with only good support in 3d are still very impressive- however games with full 3d vision support are amazing!
honestly you could get a better tv if you are willing to spend 3-5 times more $$- just be sure you get a set that is on Nvidias supported hardware list for 3d vision- thats the only way to guarantee you will have a sucessful experience. for the price though- this tv cannot be beat.
I would not recommend this technology for someone who is not a power user. Like any cutting edge technology there is allot of quirks. 3d is still in its infancy. any game that has full 3d support is plug and play though....
hope this helps....
[quote name='3Dalltheway' post='994747' date='Feb 3 2010, 12:49 PM']Hey guys
I was wondering, I heard DLP 1080p screens are the best for 3D gaming, ghosting wise etc.
I came across this WD-60735 screen from Mits, now I read some stuff that in order to get 3D gaming/movies on such a big screen you gotta go 1080 resolution and you if wont put your graphics on 1080 it will not go the full 60inch.
So I was wondering, apart from gaming 3D on a DLP 60 inch tv how about just normal 2D gaming on a DLP 60 inc tv for those games which rock but arnt 3D ready. And if you would put a 2D game on lets say 1680-1050 would it go full screen or just partial as I saw on a youtube instrucion vid.
So basicly, would it be smart to go 60 inc DLP TV to do semi 3D/2D gaming on max screen ? Or should I say, is it worth it ?
Or I could put it like this, if you had plenty of money would you buy a 60 inch DLP tv screen or a regular 24 inch LCD/TFT screen for gaming. And what would be the big difference between the two.
Rig
CPU:Nvidia GTX280 (stock)
GPU:Intel core 2 duo E8500 @ 3.2Ghz
OS: Vista 64 bit SP2
Memory: Geil 4GB DDR2 PC2 6400 800MHz
Mobo:Asus P5-Q[/quote]
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread....70#post17396070
and the user manual:
http://www.mitsubishi-tv.com/pdf/C9-737-837_OG.pdf
the tv supports many pc resolutions read up in the manual. some will have black bars and others will fill the full screen- its all in the manual.
the main drawback for me has been the overscan issue. you have to manually lower the resolution to fit the screen- so its not really 1080p im running 1830x1018. you could run 1080p but you miss out on some parts of the screen. i personally dont notice any difference in image quality with the lower resolution. all the games i play support the custom resolution created with Nvidia's drivers- some are easier than others- but all have worked for me.
some people have to turn off the geometry correction to get small text to be clear (like the file menu on internet explorer) and also have a 1:1 pixel ratio. on my tv with the geometry off there is a slight bow on the top of the screen (the top bar of IE). its really easy to switch between geometry on or off it takes me less than 10 seconds. i cannot notice a difference in gaming or movie quality between the two settings. im not really having any problems reading text with geometry on (it is slightly more blurry) so that's how i run my tv- others who are also using the tv as primary monitor complain about this and run geometry off. you could run a dual display set up and use your old monitor for regular typing and web surfing.
i really like the color of the set- i think it rivals more expensive tvs- and it is very adjustable has many features that 3000-4000$$ tvs have. the 3d Vison effect is simply amazing. i can run 100 percent depth with no ghosting at all!!! (just be sure to use the latest drivers- they are much improved for my hdtv).
i have no issues running crysis in 2d on my tv (crysis does not work for me in 2d). i just use the custom resolution i created in the control panel. even games with only good support in 3d are still very impressive- however games with full 3d vision support are amazing!
honestly you could get a better tv if you are willing to spend 3-5 times more $$- just be sure you get a set that is on Nvidias supported hardware list for 3d vision- thats the only way to guarantee you will have a sucessful experience. for the price though- this tv cannot be beat.
I would not recommend this technology for someone who is not a power user. Like any cutting edge technology there is allot of quirks. 3d is still in its infancy. any game that has full 3d support is plug and play though....
hope this helps....
[quote name='3Dalltheway' post='994747' date='Feb 3 2010, 12:49 PM']Hey guys
I was wondering, I heard DLP 1080p screens are the best for 3D gaming, ghosting wise etc.
I came across this WD-60735 screen from Mits, now I read some stuff that in order to get 3D gaming/movies on such a big screen you gotta go 1080 resolution and you if wont put your graphics on 1080 it will not go the full 60inch.
So I was wondering, apart from gaming 3D on a DLP 60 inch tv how about just normal 2D gaming on a DLP 60 inc tv for those games which rock but arnt 3D ready. And if you would put a 2D game on lets say 1680-1050 would it go full screen or just partial as I saw on a youtube instrucion vid.
So basicly, would it be smart to go 60 inc DLP TV to do semi 3D/2D gaming on max screen ? Or should I say, is it worth it ?
Or I could put it like this, if you had plenty of money would you buy a 60 inch DLP tv screen or a regular 24 inch LCD/TFT screen for gaming. And what would be the big difference between the two.
Rig
CPU:Nvidia GTX280 (stock)
GPU:Intel core 2 duo E8500 @ 3.2Ghz
OS: Vista 64 bit SP2
Memory: Geil 4GB DDR2 PC2 6400 800MHz
Mobo:Asus P5-Q
System:
Intel I7 920 overclocked to 4ghz
Asus Rampage Extreme II
2 Ge-force 480 in SLI
GTX 295 PhysX Card
12gb ddr3 2000mhz ram
Intel SSD in RAID 0
BR RW
1000w Sony surround sound
NVIDIA 3D Vision
3d displays tested:
Mitsubishi 65" DLP 3d HDTV (good old 1080p checkerboard since 2007!!!)
Panasonic VT25 (nice 2d but I returned it due to cross talk)
Acer H5360 720p on 130" screen (the best 3d)
23" Acer LCD monitor (horrible cross talk- sold it)
Samsung 65D8000
[url="http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=17396070#post17396070"]http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread....70#post17396070[/url]
and the user manual:
[url="http://www.mitsubishi-tv.com/pdf/C9-737-837_OG.pdf"]http://www.mitsubishi-tv.com/pdf/C9-737-837_OG.pdf[/url]
the tv supports many pc resolutions read up in the manual. some will have black bars and others will fill the full screen- its all in the manual.
the main drawback for me has been the overscan issue. you have to manually lower the resolution to fit the screen- so its not really 1080p im running 1830x1018. you could run 1080p but you miss out on some parts of the screen. i personally dont notice any difference in image quality with the lower resolution. all the games i play support the custom resolution created with Nvidia's drivers- some are easier than others- but all have worked for me.
some people have to turn off the geometry correction to get small text to be clear (like the file menu on internet explorer) and also have a 1:1 pixel ratio. on my tv with the geometry off there is a slight bow on the top of the screen (the top bar of IE). its really easy to switch between geometry on or off it takes me less than 10 seconds. i cannot notice a difference in gaming or movie quality between the two settings. im not really having any problems reading text with geometry on (it is slightly more blurry) so that's how i run my tv- others who are also using the tv as primary monitor complain about this and run geometry off. you could run a dual display set up and use your old monitor for regular typing and web surfing.
i really like the color of the set- i think it rivals more expensive tvs- and it is very adjustable has many features that 3000-4000$$ tvs have. the 3d Vison effect is simply amazing. i can run 100 percent depth with no ghosting at all!!! (just be sure to use the latest drivers- they are much improved for my hdtv).
i have no issues running crysis in 2d on my tv (crysis does not work for me in 2d). i just use the custom resolution i created in the control panel. even games with only good support in 3d are still very impressive- however games with full 3d vision support are amazing!
honestly you could get a better tv if you are willing to spend 3-5 times more $$- just be sure you get a set that is on Nvidias supported hardware list for 3d vision- thats the only way to guarantee you will have a sucessful experience. for the price though- this tv cannot be beat.
I would not recommend this technology for someone who is not a power user. Like any cutting edge technology there is allot of quirks. 3d is still in its infancy. any game that has full 3d support is plug and play though....
hope this helps....[/quote]
Yes it helped alot, just cant seem to find any websites for prices etc, live in The Netherlands so prolly gonna be a deal breaker for me. Seen it go for 730Euro, which is twice the price of a 23-24 inch 120hz 1080p screen, so 60 inch for 730 euro seems well worth it.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread....70#post17396070
and the user manual:
http://www.mitsubishi-tv.com/pdf/C9-737-837_OG.pdf
the tv supports many pc resolutions read up in the manual. some will have black bars and others will fill the full screen- its all in the manual.
the main drawback for me has been the overscan issue. you have to manually lower the resolution to fit the screen- so its not really 1080p im running 1830x1018. you could run 1080p but you miss out on some parts of the screen. i personally dont notice any difference in image quality with the lower resolution. all the games i play support the custom resolution created with Nvidia's drivers- some are easier than others- but all have worked for me.
some people have to turn off the geometry correction to get small text to be clear (like the file menu on internet explorer) and also have a 1:1 pixel ratio. on my tv with the geometry off there is a slight bow on the top of the screen (the top bar of IE). its really easy to switch between geometry on or off it takes me less than 10 seconds. i cannot notice a difference in gaming or movie quality between the two settings. im not really having any problems reading text with geometry on (it is slightly more blurry) so that's how i run my tv- others who are also using the tv as primary monitor complain about this and run geometry off. you could run a dual display set up and use your old monitor for regular typing and web surfing.
i really like the color of the set- i think it rivals more expensive tvs- and it is very adjustable has many features that 3000-4000$$ tvs have. the 3d Vison effect is simply amazing. i can run 100 percent depth with no ghosting at all!!! (just be sure to use the latest drivers- they are much improved for my hdtv).
i have no issues running crysis in 2d on my tv (crysis does not work for me in 2d). i just use the custom resolution i created in the control panel. even games with only good support in 3d are still very impressive- however games with full 3d vision support are amazing!
honestly you could get a better tv if you are willing to spend 3-5 times more $$- just be sure you get a set that is on Nvidias supported hardware list for 3d vision- thats the only way to guarantee you will have a sucessful experience. for the price though- this tv cannot be beat.
I would not recommend this technology for someone who is not a power user. Like any cutting edge technology there is allot of quirks. 3d is still in its infancy. any game that has full 3d support is plug and play though....
hope this helps....
Yes it helped alot, just cant seem to find any websites for prices etc, live in The Netherlands so prolly gonna be a deal breaker for me. Seen it go for 730Euro, which is twice the price of a 23-24 inch 120hz 1080p screen, so 60 inch for 730 euro seems well worth it.
you have 120volt where u live? that might be a deal breaker....
you have 120volt where u live? that might be a deal breaker....
System:
Intel I7 920 overclocked to 4ghz
Asus Rampage Extreme II
2 Ge-force 480 in SLI
GTX 295 PhysX Card
12gb ddr3 2000mhz ram
Intel SSD in RAID 0
BR RW
1000w Sony surround sound
NVIDIA 3D Vision
3d displays tested:
Mitsubishi 65" DLP 3d HDTV (good old 1080p checkerboard since 2007!!!)
Panasonic VT25 (nice 2d but I returned it due to cross talk)
Acer H5360 720p on 130" screen (the best 3d)
23" Acer LCD monitor (horrible cross talk- sold it)
Samsung 65D8000
Nah we got 230volts at 50hz
Nah we got 230volts at 50hz
Its like either WD-60735 or WD-737, hard to spot any difference, other then the 737 is a newer version but does cost more.
Its like either WD-60735 or WD-737, hard to spot any difference, other then the 737 is a newer version but does cost more.
Its like either WD-60735 or WD-737, hard to spot any difference, other then the 737 is a newer version but does cost more.[/quote]
My 60" mitsu is great for the 3D except my hardware doesnt really support the 1080p in full 1080 resolution so SOME games lag like crazy and loose frame rate.. others like batman work GREAT.
That is my only complaint.. otherwise its a great tv but I too have to have everything full resolution for 3D to function.
Its like either WD-60735 or WD-737, hard to spot any difference, other then the 737 is a newer version but does cost more.
My 60" mitsu is great for the 3D except my hardware doesnt really support the 1080p in full 1080 resolution so SOME games lag like crazy and loose frame rate.. others like batman work GREAT.
That is my only complaint.. otherwise its a great tv but I too have to have everything full resolution for 3D to function.
[quote name='shdwknt' post='998841' date='Feb 10 2010, 08:37 AM']My 60" mitsu is great for the 3D except my hardware doesnt really support the 1080p in full 1080 resolution so SOME games lag like crazy and loose frame rate.. others like batman work GREAT.
That is my only complaint.. otherwise its a great tv but I too have to have everything full resolution for 3D to function.[/quote]
[quote name='shdwknt' post='998841' date='Feb 10 2010, 08:37 AM']My 60" mitsu is great for the 3D except my hardware doesnt really support the 1080p in full 1080 resolution so SOME games lag like crazy and loose frame rate.. others like batman work GREAT.
That is my only complaint.. otherwise its a great tv but I too have to have everything full resolution for 3D to function.
System:
Intel I7 920 overclocked to 4ghz
Asus Rampage Extreme II
2 Ge-force 480 in SLI
GTX 295 PhysX Card
12gb ddr3 2000mhz ram
Intel SSD in RAID 0
BR RW
1000w Sony surround sound
NVIDIA 3D Vision
3d displays tested:
Mitsubishi 65" DLP 3d HDTV (good old 1080p checkerboard since 2007!!!)
Panasonic VT25 (nice 2d but I returned it due to cross talk)
Acer H5360 720p on 130" screen (the best 3d)
23" Acer LCD monitor (horrible cross talk- sold it)
Samsung 65D8000
And if you would put a 2D game on lets say 1680-1050 would it go full screen or just partial as I saw on a youtube instrucion vid.
So basicly, would it be smart to go 60 inc DLP TV to do semi 3D/2D gaming on max screen ? Or should I say, is it worth it ?
And how would you compare gaming on 60 inch DLP tv or just like 22/24 inch LCD/TFT ?[/quote]
To the first: Epic. My one friend who doesn't like 3dvision effects at all (think its his eyes, he's really weird) stops by and plays MW2 and some 1080p Wii/GameCube emus and stuff in 2D and it's awesome. I was able to totally rearrange things so that we didnt have to be all huddled around my 24" LCD on my desk and could just sit back like 6 ft+ from teh TV and have room to relax and play. Only thing i'm starting to wish is taht I would have got some wireless 360 controllers instead of the wired ones lol.
And resizing to compensate for overscan and selecting that resolution in-game w/' 3d on isn't really a problem, at least for most games released in the past 5 or so years (except odd ones like doom3 that use opengl, but those are few). Your rig should be good enough to run most games. Mine can even run gta4 in 3d with high settings and get 30fps or so for the most part. Your GPU is a bit better then mine and my CPU is better than yours, but i think you should get a smoother experience than me in most games, and i rarely have issues. I've been beating Far Cry 1 again (a whole $5 on steam now days, which i gladly paid instead of trying to get all 5 of my original CDs to read) and the 3D is really nice in it (try beating it on realistic if you like self-torture lol). Main source of annoyance for most pre-3Dvision era games will be that some of the crosshairs won't render properly and you'll have to find a way of disabling the stock ones in the command console or w/e and then hit ctrl+F12 to use nvidias overlay, which is really nice btw.
as far as DLP vs LCD, it's hard to say really since i've never done 3d on a LCD. I've heard ppl complain of image ghosting, but i've also heard ppl complain of the rainbow effect on DLPs if your shift your eyes around or on/off the screen real fast. I notice it too if i try to, but not during normal gaming/movie watching. I"m happy with my choice. You might want to try to keep an LCD hooked up as a monitor to use if you just want to turn your screen on real quick to do something, since DLPs take a min or so to warm up and dont like being switched on and off a lot. I still prefer sitting closer to a smaller LCD for certain things tho, like reading a lot of text on websites like this or something.
but in the end, you really can't beat the 60+" DLPs for any sort of entertainment, 3D or not.
And if you would put a 2D game on lets say 1680-1050 would it go full screen or just partial as I saw on a youtube instrucion vid.
So basicly, would it be smart to go 60 inc DLP TV to do semi 3D/2D gaming on max screen ? Or should I say, is it worth it ?
And how would you compare gaming on 60 inch DLP tv or just like 22/24 inch LCD/TFT ?
To the first: Epic. My one friend who doesn't like 3dvision effects at all (think its his eyes, he's really weird) stops by and plays MW2 and some 1080p Wii/GameCube emus and stuff in 2D and it's awesome. I was able to totally rearrange things so that we didnt have to be all huddled around my 24" LCD on my desk and could just sit back like 6 ft+ from teh TV and have room to relax and play. Only thing i'm starting to wish is taht I would have got some wireless 360 controllers instead of the wired ones lol.
And resizing to compensate for overscan and selecting that resolution in-game w/' 3d on isn't really a problem, at least for most games released in the past 5 or so years (except odd ones like doom3 that use opengl, but those are few). Your rig should be good enough to run most games. Mine can even run gta4 in 3d with high settings and get 30fps or so for the most part. Your GPU is a bit better then mine and my CPU is better than yours, but i think you should get a smoother experience than me in most games, and i rarely have issues. I've been beating Far Cry 1 again (a whole $5 on steam now days, which i gladly paid instead of trying to get all 5 of my original CDs to read) and the 3D is really nice in it (try beating it on realistic if you like self-torture lol). Main source of annoyance for most pre-3Dvision era games will be that some of the crosshairs won't render properly and you'll have to find a way of disabling the stock ones in the command console or w/e and then hit ctrl+F12 to use nvidias overlay, which is really nice btw.
as far as DLP vs LCD, it's hard to say really since i've never done 3d on a LCD. I've heard ppl complain of image ghosting, but i've also heard ppl complain of the rainbow effect on DLPs if your shift your eyes around or on/off the screen real fast. I notice it too if i try to, but not during normal gaming/movie watching. I"m happy with my choice. You might want to try to keep an LCD hooked up as a monitor to use if you just want to turn your screen on real quick to do something, since DLPs take a min or so to warm up and dont like being switched on and off a lot. I still prefer sitting closer to a smaller LCD for certain things tho, like reading a lot of text on websites like this or something.
but in the end, you really can't beat the 60+" DLPs for any sort of entertainment, 3D or not.
Ubelsteiner Rig
Intel Q9550 @ 3.9Ghz
Asus P5E-VM HDMI
4x2GB DDR2-1000
Nvidia GTX 570 (900/1800/2000)
Creative X-Fi
In-Win BR-665
Mitsubishi 60" DLP