Got new card, now no 3d
Had GTX 295 for a few years. Card and 3d worked great. Got top of the line at the time, so it was able to keep up with the games for a long time. Was time for an upgrade though. Retired now so top of the line this time was not in the budget. Got GTX 760. Got the card and installed card and new drivers. Working good except I don't seem to have the 3D options I use to have with the 295. No place to turn 3d off and on etc. Is there something else I need to install that isn't on the 760 driver download page. Seems to me I remember having to install something else, but my memory isn't what it use to be. I had bought the 3D Play software and that is installed. Thank you, JR
Had GTX 295 for a few years. Card and 3d worked great. Got top of the line at the time, so it was able to keep up with the games for a long time. Was time for an upgrade though. Retired now so top of the line this time was not in the budget. Got GTX 760.

Got the card and installed card and new drivers. Working good except I don't seem to have the 3D options I use to have with the 295. No place to turn 3d off and on etc. Is there something else I need to install that isn't on the 760 driver download page. Seems to me I remember having to install something else, but my memory isn't what it use to be. I had bought the 3D Play software and that is installed.

Thank you,
JR

#1
Posted 08/15/2013 09:51 AM   
Are you using Vista? Support for Vista was removed quite a few driver versions ago.
Are you using Vista? Support for Vista was removed quite a few driver versions ago.

#2
Posted 08/15/2013 10:15 AM   
There was this post but no one else has chimed in about whether or not they've tried it and I have no way of testing it. [url]https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/495172/3d-vision/3d-vision-is-not-recognized-on-my-computer-control-panel-3d-vision-is-not-installing-properly/post/3849346/#3849346[/url]
There was this post but no one else has chimed in about whether or not they've tried it and I have no way of testing it.

https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/495172/3d-vision/3d-vision-is-not-recognized-on-my-computer-control-panel-3d-vision-is-not-installing-properly/post/3849346/#3849346
#3
Posted 08/15/2013 11:49 AM   
[quote="Pirateguybrush"]Are you using Vista? Support for Vista was removed quite a few driver versions ago.[/quote] LMAO, What, are they in league with MS to force you into buying a new version of windows? Nvidia, this is exactly the kind of thing that can make a person like me move to ATI just out of spite. I've been a loyal customer since the 3dfx voodoo cards. This is not characteristic of you. JR
Pirateguybrush said:Are you using Vista? Support for Vista was removed quite a few driver versions ago.


LMAO,
What, are they in league with MS to force you into buying a new version of windows?

Nvidia, this is exactly the kind of thing that can make a person like me move to ATI just out of spite.

I've been a loyal customer since the 3dfx voodoo cards. This is not characteristic of you.

JR

#4
Posted 08/15/2013 12:11 PM   
omg screw u nvidia not supporting a 7 year OS that everyone hates.
omg screw u nvidia not supporting a 7 year OS that everyone hates.

#5
Posted 08/15/2013 12:31 PM   
lol, Cookybiscuit is right. Supporting older software takes up time and resources. After a point, it becomes not worth it, and starts to interfere with core development of the project. Especially when it's an OS that is widely regarded as truly obsolete, since it doesn't really do anything that Win7 doesn't do the same or better. The day they stopped having to support Vista was probably a very happy time at the nvidia office. (Though I'm sure it wasn't anywhere near as jubilant as the day my colleagues and I were finally allowed to stop supporting Internet Explorer 6!)
lol, Cookybiscuit is right. Supporting older software takes up time and resources.
After a point, it becomes not worth it, and starts to interfere with core development of the project. Especially when it's an OS that is widely regarded as truly obsolete, since it doesn't really do anything that Win7 doesn't do the same or better.

The day they stopped having to support Vista was probably a very happy time at the nvidia office. (Though I'm sure it wasn't anywhere near as jubilant as the day my colleagues and I were finally allowed to stop supporting Internet Explorer 6!)

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#6
Posted 08/15/2013 01:41 PM   
I recall one poster saying they got it to work by doing something with a compatibility setting.
I recall one poster saying they got it to work by doing something with a compatibility setting.

#7
Posted 08/15/2013 02:01 PM   
[quote="Cookybiscuit"]omg screw u nvidia not supporting a 7 year OS that everyone hates.[/quote] Not even 4 years old. Win 7 came out in Oct. 2009, so it is less than 4 years that Vista was the current Windows program. When I was working I always bought or built a top of the line gaming machine. Now that I have retired I am going to have to watch the $ a little. One of the reasons I used top end parts like GTX 295 was to make sure it will last for a while. Asking for 4 years is not much. Kind of funny to note that Windows Vista still has a Win95 comparability mode. Does Win7 still have that? I don't have my laptop on at the moment to check. JR
Cookybiscuit said:omg screw u nvidia not supporting a 7 year OS that everyone hates.


Not even 4 years old. Win 7 came out in Oct. 2009, so it is less than 4 years that Vista was the current Windows program.

When I was working I always bought or built a top of the line gaming machine. Now that I have retired I am going to have to watch the $ a little.

One of the reasons I used top end parts like GTX 295 was to make sure it will last for a while. Asking for 4 years is not much.

Kind of funny to note that Windows Vista still has a Win95 comparability mode. Does Win7 still have that? I don't have my laptop on at the moment to check.

JR

#8
Posted 08/15/2013 02:13 PM   
Win8 is cheap, much better than Vista, and arguably even better than 7 once you install a start menu replacement. You can buy a copy for the cost of a new game over here.
Win8 is cheap, much better than Vista, and arguably even better than 7 once you install a start menu replacement.

You can buy a copy for the cost of a new game over here.

#9
Posted 08/15/2013 02:25 PM   
[quote="Pirateguybrush"]Win8 is cheap, much better than Vista, and arguably even better than 7 once you install a start menu replacement. You can buy a copy for the cost of a new game over here.[/quote] Just checked and it is cheap, so let me ask this. Normally the only time I upgrade windows is when I build a new computer. This goes way back (don't remember exact particulars) to when I did try to "upgrade" windows on a computer and it didn't go very well. Ended up having to reinstall everything on the computer. Right now I have over 400 gig of games installed on this computer. It would take days to reinstall all that. Plus some of the games might not work on Win8 (yup, I have some old favorites). So, how do you think I would make out upgrading to Win8?
Pirateguybrush said:Win8 is cheap, much better than Vista, and arguably even better than 7 once you install a start menu replacement.

You can buy a copy for the cost of a new game over here.


Just checked and it is cheap, so let me ask this.

Normally the only time I upgrade windows is when I build a new computer. This goes way back (don't remember exact particulars) to when I did try to "upgrade" windows on a computer and it didn't go very well. Ended up having to reinstall everything on the computer.

Right now I have over 400 gig of games installed on this computer. It would take days to reinstall all that. Plus some of the games might not work on Win8 (yup, I have some old favorites).

So, how do you think I would make out upgrading to Win8?

#10
Posted 08/15/2013 02:35 PM   
0. Look up your hardware. Make sure there are Win8 drivers available for all of it. If your hardware is as old as Vista, this may be a problem. Only continue if drivers are available for everything (especially your motherboard). 1. Download a BARTPE iso and burn it to a CD 2. Boot into it, click-drag all your stuff into a new folder. Everything. Including the Windows directory 3. Install Win8 (clean), do not format the drive. This will give you a clean install, with a full backup of your files 4. Do this - [url]http://www.lifehacker.com.au/2013/02/how-to-do-a-clean-install-of-windows-8-with-an-upgrade-disc/[/url] 5. Install Steam, let it launch/load up, quit. 6. Delete Steam folder, replace with the one from your backup - all your (steam) games are now installed. Some may need you to redownload or verify the cache before they work. Same with Origin/Uplay. Most older games can run straight from their folders, so there's no need to actually reinstall them all manually. Almost everything that runs under Vista runs under 8, so compatibility shouldn't be an issue. My games folder is 1.28tb, and 90% of my games transfer fine this way. Of the other 10% that don't, I just reinstall them when I want to play them.
0. Look up your hardware. Make sure there are Win8 drivers available for all of it. If your hardware is as old as Vista, this may be a problem. Only continue if drivers are available for everything (especially your motherboard).

1. Download a BARTPE iso and burn it to a CD
2. Boot into it, click-drag all your stuff into a new folder. Everything. Including the Windows directory
3. Install Win8 (clean), do not format the drive. This will give you a clean install, with a full backup of your files
4. Do this - http://www.lifehacker.com.au/2013/02/how-to-do-a-clean-install-of-windows-8-with-an-upgrade-disc/
5. Install Steam, let it launch/load up, quit.
6. Delete Steam folder, replace with the one from your backup - all your (steam) games are now installed. Some may need you to redownload or verify the cache before they work. Same with Origin/Uplay. Most older games can run straight from their folders, so there's no need to actually reinstall them all manually. Almost everything that runs under Vista runs under 8, so compatibility shouldn't be an issue.

My games folder is 1.28tb, and 90% of my games transfer fine this way. Of the other 10% that don't, I just reinstall them when I want to play them.

#11
Posted 08/15/2013 03:39 PM   
[quote="CaptJR"] Just checked and it is cheap, so let me ask this. Normally the only time I upgrade windows is when I build a new computer. This goes way back (don't remember exact particulars) to when I did try to "upgrade" windows on a computer and it didn't go very well. Ended up having to reinstall everything on the computer. Right now I have over 400 gig of games installed on this computer. It would take days to reinstall all that. Plus some of the games might not work on Win8 (yup, I have some old favorites). So, how do you think I would make out upgrading to Win8?[/quote] You could also try downloading something like Backup Exec System Recovery. The old versions let you use it on a trial basis for 30 days. If you have the hard drive space, you could create a complete image of your system drive (or whole PC) and then try upgrading. You can download a bootable BESR recovery CD to restore the image if it goes wrong. I've not upgraded a system to Windows 8, but MS have improved the whole process a lot since the bad old (really old) days of Windows 95 > 98 etc. That used to be a disaster waiting to happen. Vista and Win7+8 have a lot in common so you might be ok. Good luck!
CaptJR said:

Just checked and it is cheap, so let me ask this.

Normally the only time I upgrade windows is when I build a new computer. This goes way back (don't remember exact particulars) to when I did try to "upgrade" windows on a computer and it didn't go very well. Ended up having to reinstall everything on the computer.

Right now I have over 400 gig of games installed on this computer. It would take days to reinstall all that. Plus some of the games might not work on Win8 (yup, I have some old favorites).

So, how do you think I would make out upgrading to Win8?


You could also try downloading something like Backup Exec System Recovery. The old versions let you use it on a trial basis for 30 days. If you have the hard drive space, you could create a complete image of your system drive (or whole PC) and then try upgrading. You can download a bootable BESR recovery CD to restore the image if it goes wrong.

I've not upgraded a system to Windows 8, but MS have improved the whole process a lot since the bad old (really old) days of Windows 95 > 98 etc. That used to be a disaster waiting to happen.

Vista and Win7+8 have a lot in common so you might be ok.

Good luck!

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#12
Posted 08/15/2013 11:04 PM   
In my experience, resinstalling Windows generally makes your computer much more responsive and error-free. Not so much with Windows 7 (that seems to keep itself in a good state for years), but when I had Windows XP, I used to reformat all the time, as my computer would feel sluggish after barely 6 months each time. Reinstalling windows is a pain, but you might notice a nice improvement in responsiveness (aside from the improvements that Win8 brings). I know you're on a budget, but if you can possibly scrounge up another $100 or so, buy yourself a SSD (Solid State Drive) and insatll Windows (and your core programs) on that. It makes your PC experience MUCH nicer: bootup is 4x quicker, programs are much more responsive, searching for files is almost instant. I also like putting certain games on the SSD (such as ones which have lots of loading screens or where I die a lot, since the SSD will make everything load much faster). It also makes it easier to reinstall Windows in the future, since you'll likely be keeping your documents, photos, games, etc. on a separate HDD, which will not need to be touched when you reinstall the OS on the SSD.
In my experience, resinstalling Windows generally makes your computer much more responsive and error-free. Not so much with Windows 7 (that seems to keep itself in a good state for years), but when I had Windows XP, I used to reformat all the time, as my computer would feel sluggish after barely 6 months each time. Reinstalling windows is a pain, but you might notice a nice improvement in responsiveness (aside from the improvements that Win8 brings).

I know you're on a budget, but if you can possibly scrounge up another $100 or so, buy yourself a SSD (Solid State Drive) and insatll Windows (and your core programs) on that. It makes your PC experience MUCH nicer: bootup is 4x quicker, programs are much more responsive, searching for files is almost instant. I also like putting certain games on the SSD (such as ones which have lots of loading screens or where I die a lot, since the SSD will make everything load much faster).

It also makes it easier to reinstall Windows in the future, since you'll likely be keeping your documents, photos, games, etc. on a separate HDD, which will not need to be touched when you reinstall the OS on the SSD.

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#13
Posted 08/16/2013 02:04 AM   
[quote="Volnaiskra"]In my experience, resinstalling Windows generally makes your computer much more responsive and error-free. Not so much with Windows 7 (that seems to keep itself in a good state for years), but when I had Windows XP, I used to reformat all the time, as my computer would feel sluggish after barely 6 months each time. Reinstalling windows is a pain, but you might notice a nice improvement in responsiveness (aside from the improvements that Win8 brings). I know you're on a budget, but if you can possibly scrounge up another $100 or so, buy yourself a SSD (Solid State Drive) and insatll Windows (and your core programs) on that. It makes your PC experience MUCH nicer: bootup is 4x quicker, programs are much more responsive, searching for files is almost instant. I also like putting certain games on the SSD (such as ones which have lots of loading screens or where I die a lot, since the SSD will make everything load much faster). It also makes it easier to reinstall Windows in the future, since you'll likely be keeping your documents, photos, games, etc. on a separate HDD, which will not need to be touched when you reinstall the OS on the SSD.[/quote] Even Better...make a Raid 0 array of 2 SSDS...instant access time and bandwidth up to 1Gbps ;)) + twice the space of one ssd;))
Volnaiskra said:In my experience, resinstalling Windows generally makes your computer much more responsive and error-free. Not so much with Windows 7 (that seems to keep itself in a good state for years), but when I had Windows XP, I used to reformat all the time, as my computer would feel sluggish after barely 6 months each time. Reinstalling windows is a pain, but you might notice a nice improvement in responsiveness (aside from the improvements that Win8 brings).

I know you're on a budget, but if you can possibly scrounge up another $100 or so, buy yourself a SSD (Solid State Drive) and insatll Windows (and your core programs) on that. It makes your PC experience MUCH nicer: bootup is 4x quicker, programs are much more responsive, searching for files is almost instant. I also like putting certain games on the SSD (such as ones which have lots of loading screens or where I die a lot, since the SSD will make everything load much faster).

It also makes it easier to reinstall Windows in the future, since you'll likely be keeping your documents, photos, games, etc. on a separate HDD, which will not need to be touched when you reinstall the OS on the SSD.


Even Better...make a Raid 0 array of 2 SSDS...instant access time and bandwidth up to 1Gbps ;)) + twice the space of one ssd;))

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#14
Posted 08/16/2013 12:18 PM   
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