Would it be possible to use 3D Vision / 3DTV Play to simulate 2x2D displays?
Have just got a an Acer H5360BD, and tried 3DTV Play with it. The projector and screen is not setup properly yet, but I couldn't resist a quick peek!

During setup, to confirm 3D capability, it shows you hexagons in one eye, and triangles in another. This was the first time I'd ever seen a 3D display show two entirely different images (rather than just a slightly shifted perspective of the same thing). The separation was perfect!

So, got me thinking, would it be possible for the 3DTV software to simulate two separate monitors? I.e, Present to Windows two separate 60Hz 720P devices? Then you could watch two different movies, or play 2-player 2D games with your own private view (obviously you'd have to wear earphones)

Thanks

Marcos
Have just got a an Acer H5360BD, and tried 3DTV Play with it. The projector and screen is not setup properly yet, but I couldn't resist a quick peek!



During setup, to confirm 3D capability, it shows you hexagons in one eye, and triangles in another. This was the first time I'd ever seen a 3D display show two entirely different images (rather than just a slightly shifted perspective of the same thing). The separation was perfect!



So, got me thinking, would it be possible for the 3DTV software to simulate two separate monitors? I.e, Present to Windows two separate 60Hz 720P devices? Then you could watch two different movies, or play 2-player 2D games with your own private view (obviously you'd have to wear earphones)



Thanks



Marcos

#1
Posted 06/11/2011 09:05 AM   
lol thats an interesting idea. Imagine going to the cinema, and sitting down with some people, only to watch an entirely different movie? =D You could probably sync the glasses with different pairs getting different frames. Sadly for now tho, I don't think it would work, the signal the glasses get is the same signal for sync and I dont think you can code it for 2 different signals to 2 different pairs. I mean, your idea is possible, just not with the standard home 3d kit.
lol thats an interesting idea. Imagine going to the cinema, and sitting down with some people, only to watch an entirely different movie? =D You could probably sync the glasses with different pairs getting different frames. Sadly for now tho, I don't think it would work, the signal the glasses get is the same signal for sync and I dont think you can code it for 2 different signals to 2 different pairs. I mean, your idea is possible, just not with the standard home 3d kit.

#2
Posted 06/11/2011 01:07 PM   
Thanks for the reply - I should have mentioned I'm using 3DTV Play (the Acer H5360BD has an HDMI 1.4a input). Therefore it's just using regular DLP Link glasses synced via the screen itself.

On the glasses I bought with the projector, it does have a little button on the top left-hand side, that cycles through three different modes: Showing just the left image (to both eyes), then just the right image (to both eyes), and then regular 3D mode, showing one image to each eye alternately.

During the setup with the hexagons/triangles, I could confirm this. Pressing the button on the glasses, I could just see either the hexagons in both eyes, or the triangles in both eyes. The 3D mode was somewhat nauseating though!

I was just so struck by how perfect the separation was - looking at the hexagons, I could see no hint whatsoever of the triangles.
Thanks for the reply - I should have mentioned I'm using 3DTV Play (the Acer H5360BD has an HDMI 1.4a input). Therefore it's just using regular DLP Link glasses synced via the screen itself.



On the glasses I bought with the projector, it does have a little button on the top left-hand side, that cycles through three different modes: Showing just the left image (to both eyes), then just the right image (to both eyes), and then regular 3D mode, showing one image to each eye alternately.



During the setup with the hexagons/triangles, I could confirm this. Pressing the button on the glasses, I could just see either the hexagons in both eyes, or the triangles in both eyes. The 3D mode was somewhat nauseating though!



I was just so struck by how perfect the separation was - looking at the hexagons, I could see no hint whatsoever of the triangles.

#3
Posted 06/11/2011 01:24 PM   
Yeah it seems possible....not sure how to program in 3d Vision yet? Probably just open a full screen d3d app....maybe be nice if there was a little visual studio starter 3d vision kit around here, both for 2 cameras and 1 + xna or something

oh yeha if you wanna make a regular 2d or 3d direc3d xna app, i used the www.riemers.net tutorials to do so, no 3d vision on that though works with xna good 3d programming intro in c++, c# (my fav), ... xna is c# also but new version, up to 4 now, makes xbox and win
Yeah it seems possible....not sure how to program in 3d Vision yet? Probably just open a full screen d3d app....maybe be nice if there was a little visual studio starter 3d vision kit around here, both for 2 cameras and 1 + xna or something



oh yeha if you wanna make a regular 2d or 3d direc3d xna app, i used the www.riemers.net tutorials to do so, no 3d vision on that though works with xna good 3d programming intro in c++, c# (my fav), ... xna is c# also but new version, up to 4 now, makes xbox and win

#4
Posted 06/11/2011 06:21 PM   
I did this using my dual pj rig (not 3d-vision though) and while it works like a charm the main problem is the sound....
I did this using my dual pj rig (not 3d-vision though) and while it works like a charm the main problem is the sound....

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#5
Posted 06/11/2011 11:55 PM   
Sony has a Playstation 3D monitor (24") coming out that will allow 2-player on one screen (each see their own view) but it only works on select PS3 games.
Sony has a Playstation 3D monitor (24") coming out that will allow 2-player on one screen (each see their own view) but it only works on select PS3 games.
#6
Posted 06/12/2011 04:17 PM   
I have seen videos showing a project that centers on this idea of diplaying different data on the same display with shutter-glasses. I can't remember the name of the project, though.

Found it: Scritter, by Shirailab. And they use polarized ones, not shutters.
I have seen videos showing a project that centers on this idea of diplaying different data on the same display with shutter-glasses. I can't remember the name of the project, though.



Found it: Scritter, by Shirailab. And they use polarized ones, not shutters.

#7
Posted 06/14/2011 11:59 AM   
I have seen videos showing a project that centers on this idea of diplaying different data on the same display with shutter-glasses. I can't remember the name of the project, though.

Found it: Scritter, by Shirailab. And they use polarized ones, not shutters.
I have seen videos showing a project that centers on this idea of diplaying different data on the same display with shutter-glasses. I can't remember the name of the project, though.



Found it: Scritter, by Shirailab. And they use polarized ones, not shutters.

#8
Posted 06/14/2011 11:59 AM   
[quote name='marcosscriven' date='11 June 2011 - 10:05 AM' timestamp='1307783119' post='1250361']
Have just got a an Acer H5360BD, and tried 3DTV Play with it. The projector and screen is not setup properly yet, but I couldn't resist a quick peek!

During setup, to confirm 3D capability, it shows you hexagons in one eye, and triangles in another. This was the first time I'd ever seen a 3D display show two entirely different images (rather than just a slightly shifted perspective of the same thing). The separation was perfect!

So, got me thinking, would it be possible for the 3DTV software to simulate two separate monitors? I.e, Present to Windows two separate 60Hz 720P devices? Then you could watch two different movies, or play 2-player 2D games with your own private view (obviously you'd have to wear earphones)

Thanks

Marcos
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[quote name='marcosscriven' date='11 June 2011 - 10:05 AM' timestamp='1307783119' post='1250361']

Have just got a an Acer H5360BD, and tried 3DTV Play with it. The projector and screen is not setup properly yet, but I couldn't resist a quick peek!



During setup, to confirm 3D capability, it shows you hexagons in one eye, and triangles in another. This was the first time I'd ever seen a 3D display show two entirely different images (rather than just a slightly shifted perspective of the same thing). The separation was perfect!



So, got me thinking, would it be possible for the 3DTV software to simulate two separate monitors? I.e, Present to Windows two separate 60Hz 720P devices? Then you could watch two different movies, or play 2-player 2D games with your own private view (obviously you'd have to wear earphones)



Thanks



Marcos

#9
Posted 10/23/2011 11:04 AM   
That is awesome, however, I imagine that the Nvidia glasses etc and normal glasses wouldn't work - how would each pair know which sync to take?
That is awesome, however, I imagine that the Nvidia glasses etc and normal glasses wouldn't work - how would each pair know which sync to take?

#10
Posted 10/26/2011 03:32 AM   
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