Good enough 3D vision build under $1000 All are components compatible with each other?
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WD hard drive.

If u are not OC'ing anything dont need more then 1/2 additional fans.(sides cpu/built in ones.) Despite what ppl think about components and cooling. Dont need additional fans unless you are overclocking. Companies dont want people returning.

Most important device of a computer is not in the computer. Make sure you get a surge protector.
WD hard drive.



If u are not OC'ing anything dont need more then 1/2 additional fans.(sides cpu/built in ones.) Despite what ppl think about components and cooling. Dont need additional fans unless you are overclocking. Companies dont want people returning.



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#16
Posted 09/13/2011 01:12 AM   
The newegg page for the motherboard clearly states on the 3rd line that its AMD CrossFireX

If you have a look at the product page on MSI's website it only mentions CrossFire, no mention of Nvidia SLI.

http://www.msi.com/product/mb/P67A-G45--B3-.html

You'll have to scroll down to near the bottom of the page.

There are theories you can get Nvidia SLI working on CrossFire only boards with the p67 chipset but I would avoid the situation, it might conflict with the 3D drivers.


If you have a look at this board from Gigabyte you'll see at the bottom of the page it states both Crossfire and Nvidia SLI

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128506

I wouldn't buy a board for SLI unless it shows the Nvidia SLI logo.(remember SLI means Scan Line Interleaving, people can reference AMD/ATI and talk about doing SLI with there Crossfire system, you want to look for specific references to Nividia's SLI)


I would recommend the Gigabyte board, for a long term gaming machine I concentrate on the CPU and motherboard, the rest can/or will be upgraded at somepoint later, but you do want to get these two pieces correct at the start.
To off-set the extra expence you could buy a cheap hardrive now and add larger/better drives later and use the cheap drive just for the OS with your games on the better drives.
Also just buy a cheap keyboard and mouse for now and look at other options later, same with sound just get a cheap set of headphones.

Then look at either Razor or Logitech for the keyboard and Mouse.

List looks good to me, except I would look at getting the Gigabyte motherboard.
The newegg page for the motherboard clearly states on the 3rd line that its AMD CrossFireX



If you have a look at the product page on MSI's website it only mentions CrossFire, no mention of Nvidia SLI.



http://www.msi.com/product/mb/P67A-G45--B3-.html



You'll have to scroll down to near the bottom of the page.



There are theories you can get Nvidia SLI working on CrossFire only boards with the p67 chipset but I would avoid the situation, it might conflict with the 3D drivers.





If you have a look at this board from Gigabyte you'll see at the bottom of the page it states both Crossfire and Nvidia SLI



http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128506



I wouldn't buy a board for SLI unless it shows the Nvidia SLI logo.(remember SLI means Scan Line Interleaving, people can reference AMD/ATI and talk about doing SLI with there Crossfire system, you want to look for specific references to Nividia's SLI)





I would recommend the Gigabyte board, for a long term gaming machine I concentrate on the CPU and motherboard, the rest can/or will be upgraded at somepoint later, but you do want to get these two pieces correct at the start.

To off-set the extra expence you could buy a cheap hardrive now and add larger/better drives later and use the cheap drive just for the OS with your games on the better drives.

Also just buy a cheap keyboard and mouse for now and look at other options later, same with sound just get a cheap set of headphones.



Then look at either Razor or Logitech for the keyboard and Mouse.



List looks good to me, except I would look at getting the Gigabyte motherboard.

#17
Posted 09/13/2011 03:59 AM   
GTX 570 is going to play the games pretty slowly (any single board is going to suffer in 3D). However, I would definitely increase your memory. 4GB isn't enough. At least 8GB.

-M
GTX 570 is going to play the games pretty slowly (any single board is going to suffer in 3D). However, I would definitely increase your memory. 4GB isn't enough. At least 8GB.



-M

#18
Posted 09/13/2011 04:18 AM   
[quote name='Shaderhacker' date='13 September 2011 - 03:18 PM' timestamp='1315887525' post='1292133']
GTX 570 is going to play the games pretty slowly (any single board is going to suffer in 3D). However, I would definitely increase your memory. 4GB isn't enough. At least 8GB.

-M
[/quote]


Really? Graphs speak loud don't they young Jedi!

http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-570-review/12
[quote name='Shaderhacker' date='13 September 2011 - 03:18 PM' timestamp='1315887525' post='1292133']

GTX 570 is going to play the games pretty slowly (any single board is going to suffer in 3D). However, I would definitely increase your memory. 4GB isn't enough. At least 8GB.



-M







Really? Graphs speak loud don't they young Jedi!



http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-570-review/12

#19
Posted 09/13/2011 05:47 AM   
I've had a chance to read through the other comments posted and as such I have a couple more points.

Stock fan - the stock fan will be fine so long as you don't bother with overclocking the cpu with it, if Intel was releasing cpu's that didn't work with the stock fan (eg. requiring you to slow it down from its default speed) they would be getting thousands of warranty claims costing them heaps of money.

Case - It will suffice for your first level build.

Ram - 100% of games are written for 32bit, with 10% offering 64Bit support, which means 4Gig will cover it (3.2 gig is the max 32bit can use), for now I would get the 4Gig and then later, when 64bit really takes off, re-look at your memory options. When it does, 16Gig will be the standard, so no point with 8Gig anyway.

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/max-memory-limits-for-64-bit-windows-7/4254

What I would do/suggest as a long term outlook, lets say 2 to 3 years from now. (make a copy of the following, it is for later)

New case, much larger, with water cooling for the overclocked CPU, GTX 570 in SLI (if you get the Gigabyte board)(with extra fans), at least a 128gig SSD for your operating system and two, either 1TB or 2TB WD Black drives in RAID 1 (not 0), you get built in backup and Raid 0 read speeds with Raid 1 (if a drive fails in raid 0 you'll lose all your data), 16 Gig of ram, with either a Razor, Logitech or Microsoft keyboard and a Razor or Logitech mouse with either a Logitech surround sound system or headphones WITH the computer connected to a Full HD projector (yes projector) and possibly a PSU upgrade.(to cover the water cooling and extra drives)

What to do with the bits left over, well take the case (and possible PSU),replaced hard drive, 4Gig of ram, el-cheapo keyboard and mouse and the monitor that gets replaced by the projector and spend $200(today's price,probably cheaper then) on an internet computer and leave your main system just for 3D (both movies and games!) (projector's aren't good for internet surfing)

Lets say you get the better keyboard and mouse with-in a couple weeks-months and can do the above with-in a year, in 3 years you can actually just look at upgrading the graphics cards, the rest of it will still be a solid system. /biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':biggrin:' />

If you are going to use headphones I recommend the following, buy these speakers...

http://www.logitech.com/en-au/speakers-audio/home-pc-speakers/devices/6684

They will work both as an amplifier and as a volume control. If neighbors aren't a problem then get this..

http://www.logitech.com/en-au/speakers-audio/home-pc-speakers/devices/7191

The on board sound is fine, you'll only want a sound card if your starting a recording studio or insist on still only listening to music on vinyl for the purity of it!

In closing, seriously get the Gigabyte board, the motherboard is the foundation of the system and I know it supports Nvidia's SLI, it also has the Z68 chipset, a set up from the P67.

The current list plus the Gigabyte board - 3D Ready /smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':smile:' />
I've had a chance to read through the other comments posted and as such I have a couple more points.



Stock fan - the stock fan will be fine so long as you don't bother with overclocking the cpu with it, if Intel was releasing cpu's that didn't work with the stock fan (eg. requiring you to slow it down from its default speed) they would be getting thousands of warranty claims costing them heaps of money.



Case - It will suffice for your first level build.



Ram - 100% of games are written for 32bit, with 10% offering 64Bit support, which means 4Gig will cover it (3.2 gig is the max 32bit can use), for now I would get the 4Gig and then later, when 64bit really takes off, re-look at your memory options. When it does, 16Gig will be the standard, so no point with 8Gig anyway.



http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/max-memory-limits-for-64-bit-windows-7/4254



What I would do/suggest as a long term outlook, lets say 2 to 3 years from now. (make a copy of the following, it is for later)



New case, much larger, with water cooling for the overclocked CPU, GTX 570 in SLI (if you get the Gigabyte board)(with extra fans), at least a 128gig SSD for your operating system and two, either 1TB or 2TB WD Black drives in RAID 1 (not 0), you get built in backup and Raid 0 read speeds with Raid 1 (if a drive fails in raid 0 you'll lose all your data), 16 Gig of ram, with either a Razor, Logitech or Microsoft keyboard and a Razor or Logitech mouse with either a Logitech surround sound system or headphones WITH the computer connected to a Full HD projector (yes projector) and possibly a PSU upgrade.(to cover the water cooling and extra drives)



What to do with the bits left over, well take the case (and possible PSU),replaced hard drive, 4Gig of ram, el-cheapo keyboard and mouse and the monitor that gets replaced by the projector and spend $200(today's price,probably cheaper then) on an internet computer and leave your main system just for 3D (both movies and games!) (projector's aren't good for internet surfing)



Lets say you get the better keyboard and mouse with-in a couple weeks-months and can do the above with-in a year, in 3 years you can actually just look at upgrading the graphics cards, the rest of it will still be a solid system. /biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':biggrin:' />



If you are going to use headphones I recommend the following, buy these speakers...



http://www.logitech.com/en-au/speakers-audio/home-pc-speakers/devices/6684



They will work both as an amplifier and as a volume control. If neighbors aren't a problem then get this..



http://www.logitech.com/en-au/speakers-audio/home-pc-speakers/devices/7191



The on board sound is fine, you'll only want a sound card if your starting a recording studio or insist on still only listening to music on vinyl for the purity of it!



In closing, seriously get the Gigabyte board, the motherboard is the foundation of the system and I know it supports Nvidia's SLI, it also has the Z68 chipset, a set up from the P67.



The current list plus the Gigabyte board - 3D Ready /smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':smile:' />

#20
Posted 09/13/2011 12:04 PM   
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