Need advice on buying a 1080 vs 1080Ti based on the rest of my specs...
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[quote="RAGEdemon"]1080SLi + 970 for PhysX would make a beautiful combo. [/quote] hmm.. upon further investigation and research, it sounds like single GPU solution + my old 970 GTX would be a better choice due to the poor SLI support in recent years. I might bite on 1080Ti or the new Volta and use my 970 GTX for PhysX (or sell it? maybe not worth much when I am ready to move to Volta?!?) hmm..
RAGEdemon said:1080SLi + 970 for PhysX would make a beautiful combo.



hmm.. upon further investigation and research, it sounds like single GPU solution + my old 970 GTX would be a better choice due to the poor SLI support in recent years.

I might bite on 1080Ti or the new Volta and use my 970 GTX for PhysX (or sell it? maybe not worth much when I am ready to move to Volta?!?)

hmm..

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#31
Posted 11/24/2017 08:29 PM   
Can't state on SLI on the 1000 series, but on the 900 series, SLI still works perfectly fine! Then again, People EXPECT every game to be SLI usable! This was never the case and is not the case! There are WORK-AROUNDs to get SLI working to a degree (even in Unreal 4 Engine games). It all boils down to, if you want to make it work, you can, to a degree;) But, most of the AAA games always had SLI profiles;)
Can't state on SLI on the 1000 series, but on the 900 series, SLI still works perfectly fine!
Then again, People EXPECT every game to be SLI usable! This was never the case and is not the case!
There are WORK-AROUNDs to get SLI working to a degree (even in Unreal 4 Engine games).

It all boils down to, if you want to make it work, you can, to a degree;) But, most of the AAA games always had SLI profiles;)

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#32
Posted 11/24/2017 09:49 PM   
Welp, I passed up buying a 1070Ti or a 1080 altogether. I didn't find any blazing Black Friday or Cyber Monday deals like I'd hoped, and plus the car broke down. I did buy Need for Speed Payback and it's running surprisingly well on my old 690. I don't have everything maxed out, but it's still gorgeous, and runs a lot better than NFS 2015 which was on the same engine. The game is also much, MUCH more fun. Funny, I haven't even bothered turning on S3D yet to see how broken it is though - I'm just assuming it's broken and doubtful anyone would be interested in making a fix.
Welp, I passed up buying a 1070Ti or a 1080 altogether. I didn't find any blazing Black Friday or Cyber Monday deals like I'd hoped, and plus the car broke down.

I did buy Need for Speed Payback and it's running surprisingly well on my old 690. I don't have everything maxed out, but it's still gorgeous, and runs a lot better than NFS 2015 which was on the same engine. The game is also much, MUCH more fun. Funny, I haven't even bothered turning on S3D yet to see how broken it is though - I'm just assuming it's broken and doubtful anyone would be interested in making a fix.

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#33
Posted 11/30/2017 01:54 PM   
@SnickerSnack I dont' have the game (Need for Speed Payback), but i know is using Frostbite3 engine. You can try this Universal 3Dfix for Frostbite3 Engine games i made using ShaderRegex: [url]https://s3.amazonaws.com/dhr/Test/3Dmigoto.Universal.3DFix.Frostbite3.Engine.x64.by.DHR.zip[/url] This user.cfg was made by Helifax to disable CS Lights, just in case this game use a lot this type of lights. [url]https://s3.amazonaws.com/dhr/Test/User.cfg[/url] Assuming this game don't have the issues Battlefront II have using 3Dmigoto. THIS WILL WORK IN ANY FROSTBITE3 ENGINE GAME, with the follow considerations: [u]This will fix On the fly:[/u] - PS Shadows - PS Lights - PS Reflections This pattern will also take CS Lights, but in order to fix those CS you need the proper tweak or profile. [u]This will NOT fix[/u] - HUD/UI - Skybox/Sun/Moon - Lensflares Please test and let me know how is working.
@SnickerSnack

I dont' have the game (Need for Speed Payback), but i know is using Frostbite3 engine. You can try this Universal 3Dfix for Frostbite3 Engine games i made using ShaderRegex:

https://s3.amazonaws.com/dhr/Test/3Dmigoto.Universal.3DFix.Frostbite3.Engine.x64.by.DHR.zip


This user.cfg was made by Helifax to disable CS Lights, just in case this game use a lot this type of lights.

https://s3.amazonaws.com/dhr/Test/User.cfg

Assuming this game don't have the issues Battlefront II have using 3Dmigoto.
THIS WILL WORK IN ANY FROSTBITE3 ENGINE GAME, with the follow considerations:

This will fix On the fly:
- PS Shadows
- PS Lights
- PS Reflections

This pattern will also take CS Lights, but in order to fix those CS you need the proper tweak or profile.

This will NOT fix
- HUD/UI
- Skybox/Sun/Moon
- Lensflares

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#34
Posted 11/30/2017 02:04 PM   
^^ Thanks mate, I'll try to have a go at this over the weekend!
^^ Thanks mate, I'll try to have a go at this over the weekend!

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#35
Posted 11/30/2017 06:13 PM   
[quote="SnickerSnack"]Welp, I passed up buying a 1070Ti or a 1080 altogether. I didn't find any blazing Black Friday or Cyber Monday deals like I'd hoped, and plus the car broke down. [/quote] the bitcoin mining craze really make it hard for us to upgrade our GPU. To have the 10 series stay at the MSRP price after 1.5 years is stupidly ridiculous and unheard of
SnickerSnack said:Welp, I passed up buying a 1070Ti or a 1080 altogether. I didn't find any blazing Black Friday or Cyber Monday deals like I'd hoped, and plus the car broke down.



the bitcoin mining craze really make it hard for us to upgrade our GPU.

To have the 10 series stay at the MSRP price after 1.5 years is stupidly ridiculous and unheard of

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#36
Posted 11/30/2017 11:14 PM   
[quote="J-Enermax"][quote="SnickerSnack"]Welp, I passed up buying a 1070Ti or a 1080 altogether. I didn't find any blazing Black Friday or Cyber Monday deals like I'd hoped, and plus the car broke down. [/quote]the bitcoin mining craze really make it hard for us to upgrade our GPU. To have the 10 series stay at the MSRP price after 1.5 years is stupidly ridiculous and unheard of[/quote] Yeah, I've been holding off too, because even used 1080 cards on eBay are still $480 or so. I can't wait for this bitcoin mining thing to crash. It's one of the more retarded things I've seen the masses jump into. I looked into it in depth last month, and it's just a completely broken concept. BTC itself is never going to scale properly and be a real thing, it's literally just a tulip mania. Another problem I have with the mining is the waste of energy. I'm not a nature-first type of guy, but as an engineer it hurts my soul to see them burn 215kWh for every transaction. Each transaction is basically busy-work, as it hashes out throw away numbers looking for the right one. Whoever wins the hash race gets new BTC. All the losers get a higher electric bill. So literally, they are burning electricity for nothing more than making it slow. Ugh. At $10K or more, it will continue to be wildly profitable to burn electricity. Expected to burn 24 terawatt-hours of electricity for the year, to make tulips. Roughly the same amount of electricity that all of Nigeria uses for a year. So we could either halve Nigeria power costs, or make tulips. Edit: In case someone gets worked up, yes, I know that you cannot mine Bitcoin with GPUs today, I just use it as a proxy for all the cryptocurrencies. Ethereum is the one most wrecking the GPU market.
J-Enermax said:
SnickerSnack said:Welp, I passed up buying a 1070Ti or a 1080 altogether. I didn't find any blazing Black Friday or Cyber Monday deals like I'd hoped, and plus the car broke down.
the bitcoin mining craze really make it hard for us to upgrade our GPU.

To have the 10 series stay at the MSRP price after 1.5 years is stupidly ridiculous and unheard of

Yeah, I've been holding off too, because even used 1080 cards on eBay are still $480 or so.


I can't wait for this bitcoin mining thing to crash. It's one of the more retarded things I've seen the masses jump into. I looked into it in depth last month, and it's just a completely broken concept. BTC itself is never going to scale properly and be a real thing, it's literally just a tulip mania.

Another problem I have with the mining is the waste of energy. I'm not a nature-first type of guy, but as an engineer it hurts my soul to see them burn 215kWh for every transaction. Each transaction is basically busy-work, as it hashes out throw away numbers looking for the right one. Whoever wins the hash race gets new BTC. All the losers get a higher electric bill. So literally, they are burning electricity for nothing more than making it slow. Ugh.

At $10K or more, it will continue to be wildly profitable to burn electricity. Expected to burn 24 terawatt-hours of electricity for the year, to make tulips. Roughly the same amount of electricity that all of Nigeria uses for a year. So we could either halve Nigeria power costs, or make tulips.

Edit: In case someone gets worked up, yes, I know that you cannot mine Bitcoin with GPUs today, I just use it as a proxy for all the cryptocurrencies. Ethereum is the one most wrecking the GPU market.

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#37
Posted 12/01/2017 12:05 AM   
[quote="bo3b"]There is no chance that the 1080ti would be worth it, for 3D. [/quote] not even when you try 3D Surround or just 2D Surround? I was advised on this board to go for at least a 1080Ti or SLI set up in order to get decent fps at 1080P
bo3b said:There is no chance that the 1080ti would be worth it, for 3D.



not even when you try 3D Surround or just 2D Surround? I was advised on this board to go for at least a 1080Ti or SLI set up in order to get decent fps at 1080P

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#38
Posted 12/01/2017 06:58 AM   
^^^ Yeah, I had looked into Bitcoin mining three years ago and decided it was a waste of time and energy. By the way, I did OC my 690.... on Heaven benchmark I achieved an extra 3 fps. So yeah,.. not much... but it was noticeable in certain scenarios.
^^^ Yeah, I had looked into Bitcoin mining three years ago and decided it was a waste of time and energy.

By the way, I did OC my 690.... on Heaven benchmark I achieved an extra 3 fps. So yeah,.. not much... but it was noticeable in certain scenarios.

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#39
Posted 12/01/2017 02:02 PM   
[quote="J-Enermax"][quote="bo3b"]There is no chance that the 1080ti would be worth it, for 3D. [/quote] not even when you try 3D Surround or just 2D Surround? I was advised on this board to go for at least a 1080Ti or SLI set up in order to get decent fps at 1080P[/quote] No Surround is a completely different beast. You can use SLI 1080Ti for that. It's a massive amount of pixels. He was targeting 1080p, and money is a concern, so GTX 1080Ti for his scenario is a waste of money.
J-Enermax said:
bo3b said:There is no chance that the 1080ti would be worth it, for 3D.



not even when you try 3D Surround or just 2D Surround? I was advised on this board to go for at least a 1080Ti or SLI set up in order to get decent fps at 1080P

No Surround is a completely different beast. You can use SLI 1080Ti for that. It's a massive amount of pixels.

He was targeting 1080p, and money is a concern, so GTX 1080Ti for his scenario is a waste of money.

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#40
Posted 12/02/2017 02:32 PM   
wow, just had a quick look on Amazon and Newegg and GPUs are the same, if not more, than they were a couple of months back. Mining really is effecting the price of this gen. Crazy thing is 1070, 1070Ti and 1080 prices are all within a bee's dick of each other, so I would only really be looking at 1080 deals. DD4 RAM is like twice as much as I paid 1.5 years ago? What's going on, pricing in the PC hardware market is just a mess ATM.
wow, just had a quick look on Amazon and Newegg and GPUs are the same, if not more, than they were a couple of months back. Mining really is effecting the price of this gen.

Crazy thing is 1070, 1070Ti and 1080 prices are all within a bee's dick of each other, so I would only really be looking at 1080 deals.

DD4 RAM is like twice as much as I paid 1.5 years ago? What's going on, pricing in the PC hardware market is just a mess ATM.

#41
Posted 12/02/2017 11:14 PM   
^^^ My thoughts exactly ummester. @ DHR: I activated 3D Vision on NFS Payback and found the usual problems - mainly shadows and object rendering at the wrong depth. Installing the fix you made corrected many of the issues, enough so that it was quite playable. I was really impressed. Unfortunately however, because of my insufficient hardware, it turned the game into a slideshow. I compensated by lowering the resolution enough to achieve playable FPS (in my case that was going down from 1920x1080 to 1200x600 or something like that) but the "screen door" effect was too much. The problems I saw regarding the fix/game itself was that vehicle shadows were rendering different in each eye (world shadows were okay), and vehicle wheels were really strange: The outer rim was fine, but the center hub sections were 2D, and they rendered at a different angle in each eye, and neither angle was correct for either eye.
^^^ My thoughts exactly ummester.

@ DHR: I activated 3D Vision on NFS Payback and found the usual problems - mainly shadows and object rendering at the wrong depth.

Installing the fix you made corrected many of the issues, enough so that it was quite playable. I was really impressed. Unfortunately however, because of my insufficient hardware, it turned the game into a slideshow. I compensated by lowering the resolution enough to achieve playable FPS (in my case that was going down from 1920x1080 to 1200x600 or something like that) but the "screen door" effect was too much.

The problems I saw regarding the fix/game itself was that vehicle shadows were rendering different in each eye (world shadows were okay), and vehicle wheels were really strange: The outer rim was fine, but the center hub sections were 2D, and they rendered at a different angle in each eye, and neither angle was correct for either eye.

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#42
Posted 12/04/2017 01:17 PM   
Deleted for dumb slow server double-posting. I swear NVidia Forums are the slowest ever.
Deleted for dumb slow server double-posting.

I swear NVidia Forums are the slowest ever.

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#43
Posted 12/04/2017 01:18 PM   
I'd wait for Volta and after that: carbon nanotube transistors. ;)
I'd wait for Volta and after that: carbon nanotube transistors. ;)

#44
Posted 12/04/2017 10:34 PM   
[quote="RAGEdemon"]1080SLi + 970 for PhysX would make a beautiful combo. [/quote] oh yea? I don't know any current or future motherboard that allow 3 way SLI or have 16/16/16 or even 8/8/8 PCIE lanes. Sadly, the current Intel 300 series motherboard with i7-8700K no longer allow this combo to be viable (unless u guys prove me wrong). 8/4/4 SLI + physX set up is a big no-no
RAGEdemon said:1080SLi + 970 for PhysX would make a beautiful combo.



oh yea? I don't know any current or future motherboard that allow 3 way SLI or have 16/16/16 or even 8/8/8 PCIE lanes. Sadly, the current Intel 300 series motherboard with i7-8700K no longer allow this combo to be viable (unless u guys prove me wrong).

8/4/4 SLI + physX set up is a big no-no

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#45
Posted 12/30/2017 05:43 AM   
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