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[quote="RAGEdemon"]For what it's worth, SLi 1080 is cheaper than a titan, and 1.25x the performance. Most 3D Vision games also scale fantastically well with SLI. The purchase choice is clear. 980ti is almost the same performance. The down side is that they lose their value a little quicker, and the ti would be better for VR as no real VR support for SLI yet.[/quote] well VR is not in my interest list untill gen2...allthouh it might happen earlier than we think...who knows.
RAGEdemon said:For what it's worth, SLi 1080 is cheaper than a titan, and 1.25x the performance. Most 3D Vision games also scale fantastically well with SLI. The purchase choice is clear. 980ti is almost the same performance.

The down side is that they lose their value a little quicker, and the ti would be better for VR as no real VR support for SLI yet.


well VR is not in my interest list untill gen2...allthouh it might happen earlier than we think...who knows.

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#16
Posted 01/12/2017 04:28 PM   
How much second card increses my temps ? I have Waterloop with cpu and one 980ti on it. I found one with same ek block as i have sold on ebay, allthough its NVIDIA and i have Evga i understood it does not matter the cards are from different manufacturer ?
How much second card increses my temps ?
I have Waterloop with cpu and one 980ti on it.
I found one with same ek block as i have sold on ebay, allthough its NVIDIA and i have
Evga i understood it does not matter the cards are from different manufacturer ?

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#17
Posted 01/20/2017 03:29 PM   
[quote="Metaloholic"]How much second card increses my temps ? I have Waterloop with cpu and one 980ti on it. I found one with same ek block as i have sold on ebay, allthough its NVIDIA and i have Evga i understood it does not matter the cards are from different manufacturer ?[/quote] I would go against building SLI with different cards manufacturers. I would stick with same MFG and SAME CARD MODEL. Otherwise I can guarantee you'll have trouble.
Metaloholic said:How much second card increses my temps ?
I have Waterloop with cpu and one 980ti on it.
I found one with same ek block as i have sold on ebay, allthough its NVIDIA and i have
Evga i understood it does not matter the cards are from different manufacturer ?


I would go against building SLI with different cards manufacturers. I would stick with same MFG and SAME CARD MODEL. Otherwise I can guarantee you'll have trouble.

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#18
Posted 01/20/2017 06:22 PM   
[quote="helifax"][quote="Metaloholic"]How much second card increses my temps ? I have Waterloop with cpu and one 980ti on it. I found one with same ek block as i have sold on ebay, allthough its NVIDIA and i have Evga i understood it does not matter the cards are from different manufacturer ?[/quote] I would go against building SLI with different cards manufacturers. I would stick with same MFG and SAME CARD MODEL. Otherwise I can guarantee you'll have trouble.[/quote] I thought so too as my friend had problems with different manufacturer models. Thats why i asked. Thanks Helifax for clearing that out I wonder why its said in sli thread that same gpu is only thing that matters
helifax said:
Metaloholic said:How much second card increses my temps ?
I have Waterloop with cpu and one 980ti on it.
I found one with same ek block as i have sold on ebay, allthough its NVIDIA and i have
Evga i understood it does not matter the cards are from different manufacturer ?


I would go against building SLI with different cards manufacturers. I would stick with same MFG and SAME CARD MODEL. Otherwise I can guarantee you'll have trouble.


I thought so too as my friend had problems with different manufacturer models.
Thats why i asked. Thanks Helifax for clearing that out

I wonder why its said in sli thread that same gpu is only thing that matters

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#19
Posted 01/20/2017 06:39 PM   
[quote="Metaloholic"][quote="helifax"][quote="Metaloholic"]How much second card increses my temps ? I have Waterloop with cpu and one 980ti on it. I found one with same ek block as i have sold on ebay, allthough its NVIDIA and i have Evga i understood it does not matter the cards are from different manufacturer ?[/quote] I would go against building SLI with different cards manufacturers. I would stick with same MFG and SAME CARD MODEL. Otherwise I can guarantee you'll have trouble.[/quote] I thought so too as my friend had problems with different manufacturer models. Thats why i asked. Thanks Helifax for clearing that out I wonder why its said in sli thread that same gpu is only thing that matters[/quote] Theoretically, only the GPU Model matters. However, in practice each MFG likes to modify the reference board and they modify the VRAM configuration (or geometry) or add other things. Hence, if you connect a reference card/board with a MFG proprietary card/board you will get into unknown problems (The memory layout/geometry doesn't match for example, or one GPU boosts higher than other and so on). For SLI to work properly everything needs to be mirrored: including frequency, VRAM geometry and so on... So, try to avoid cards from different manufacturers ;)
Metaloholic said:
helifax said:
Metaloholic said:How much second card increses my temps ?
I have Waterloop with cpu and one 980ti on it.
I found one with same ek block as i have sold on ebay, allthough its NVIDIA and i have
Evga i understood it does not matter the cards are from different manufacturer ?


I would go against building SLI with different cards manufacturers. I would stick with same MFG and SAME CARD MODEL. Otherwise I can guarantee you'll have trouble.


I thought so too as my friend had problems with different manufacturer models.
Thats why i asked. Thanks Helifax for clearing that out

I wonder why its said in sli thread that same gpu is only thing that matters


Theoretically, only the GPU Model matters.
However, in practice each MFG likes to modify the reference board and they modify the VRAM configuration (or geometry) or add other things. Hence, if you connect a reference card/board with a MFG proprietary card/board you will get into unknown problems (The memory layout/geometry doesn't match for example, or one GPU boosts higher than other and so on).

For SLI to work properly everything needs to be mirrored: including frequency, VRAM geometry and so on... So, try to avoid cards from different manufacturers ;)

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#20
Posted 01/21/2017 10:26 AM   
[quote="helifax"][quote="Metaloholic"][quote="helifax"][quote="Metaloholic"]How much second card increses my temps ? I have Waterloop with cpu and one 980ti on it. I found one with same ek block as i have sold on ebay, allthough its NVIDIA and i have Evga i understood it does not matter the cards are from different manufacturer ?[/quote] I would go against building SLI with different cards manufacturers. I would stick with same MFG and SAME CARD MODEL. Otherwise I can guarantee you'll have trouble.[/quote] I thought so too as my friend had problems with different manufacturer models. Thats why i asked. Thanks Helifax for clearing that out I wonder why its said in sli thread that same gpu is only thing that matters[/quote] Theoretically, only the GPU Model matters. However, in practice each MFG likes to modify the reference board and they modify the VRAM configuration (or geometry) or add other things. Hence, if you connect a reference card/board with a MFG proprietary card/board you will get into unknown problems (The memory layout/geometry doesn't match for example, or one GPU boosts higher than other and so on). For SLI to work properly everything needs to be mirrored: including frequency, VRAM geometry and so on... So, try to avoid cards from different manufacturers ;)[/quote] i had a though that i would buy a evga hybrid but propably safe than sound i should go with the reference model (i currently have with EK) and hook up a water block to it too than taking my chance with hybrid. allthough the manufacturer is the same. or can i use custom bios for the hybrid to get it line up with the reference cars as they have different boost atleas according to specs.
helifax said:
Metaloholic said:
helifax said:
Metaloholic said:How much second card increses my temps ?
I have Waterloop with cpu and one 980ti on it.
I found one with same ek block as i have sold on ebay, allthough its NVIDIA and i have
Evga i understood it does not matter the cards are from different manufacturer ?


I would go against building SLI with different cards manufacturers. I would stick with same MFG and SAME CARD MODEL. Otherwise I can guarantee you'll have trouble.


I thought so too as my friend had problems with different manufacturer models.
Thats why i asked. Thanks Helifax for clearing that out

I wonder why its said in sli thread that same gpu is only thing that matters


Theoretically, only the GPU Model matters.
However, in practice each MFG likes to modify the reference board and they modify the VRAM configuration (or geometry) or add other things. Hence, if you connect a reference card/board with a MFG proprietary card/board you will get into unknown problems (The memory layout/geometry doesn't match for example, or one GPU boosts higher than other and so on).

For SLI to work properly everything needs to be mirrored: including frequency, VRAM geometry and so on... So, try to avoid cards from different manufacturers ;)


i had a though that i would buy a evga hybrid but propably safe than sound i should go with the reference model (i currently have with EK) and hook up a water block to it too than taking my chance with hybrid. allthough the manufacturer is the same. or can i use custom bios for the hybrid to get it line up with the reference cars as they have different boost atleas according to specs.

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#21
Posted 01/21/2017 12:07 PM   
Hah. It seems its getting more easier to find titanxp used here in Finland than another reference card or red with better cooling with The same clock. Shit thing is that Titan runs hot as 980 ti so its kind of best to put a gpu block on it, and i already have water coming To my 980ti but then there is no warranty, has Any of you heard titans braking in warranty time ? And The most important thing. I read about some latency and stuttering problems , is it soleved ? I have old mobo and cpu so i fear its a Bad choise. It seems Almoust idiotic to change a card with 3.5 years left into to twice higher Price Card with NO warranty. Any comments much appriciated
Hah. It seems its getting more easier to find titanxp used here in Finland than another reference card or red with better cooling with
The same clock. Shit thing is that Titan runs hot as 980 ti so its kind of best to put a gpu block on it, and i already have water coming
To my 980ti but then there is no warranty, has Any of you heard titans braking in warranty time ? And
The most important thing. I read about some latency and stuttering problems , is it soleved ?
I have old mobo and cpu so i fear its a Bad choise. It seems Almoust idiotic to change a card with 3.5 years left into to twice higher Price
Card with NO warranty. Any comments much appriciated

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#22
Posted 01/28/2017 09:26 AM   
Well as i feared it Turned out to be easier to find a Titan xp than another identical 980ti so i switched my 980tiEK and cash into a titanXP. Price was about the same as getting another card. I was not Expertin that much, maby hoping to get tombraiders lowest frames up from below 30 and hitmans low end up. Sitting at the bench at the start of the map (don't remember what map) i was hoping for above 30 Anyways seems pretty booring increase in performance. I propably need to water it definetly. One thing i don't get, as the hitman shows 25fps according to afterburner at the bench scene start why is gpu Showing under 20% usage ? Wtf ? Idiot not DDU, i just popped in the card as i forgot to uninstall my ti, and updated the drivers. Got a Little over 6k in futuremarks firerestrike ultra ? ( tha most demanding)
Well as i feared it Turned out to be easier to find a Titan xp than another identical 980ti so i switched my
980tiEK and cash into a titanXP. Price was about the same as getting another card.
I was not Expertin that much, maby hoping to get tombraiders lowest frames up from below 30 and hitmans low end up.
Sitting at the bench at the start of the map (don't remember what map) i was hoping for above 30
Anyways seems pretty booring increase in performance. I propably need to water it definetly.

One thing i don't get, as the hitman shows 25fps according to afterburner at the bench scene start why is gpu
Showing under 20% usage ? Wtf ?

Idiot not DDU, i just popped in the card as i forgot to uninstall my ti, and updated the drivers.

Got a Little over 6k in futuremarks firerestrike ultra ? ( tha most demanding)

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#23
Posted 02/25/2017 09:27 AM   
Tomb is some a what more fluid overal but its still running most of the time under 30 in the most demanding places.
Tomb is some a what more fluid overal but its still running most of the time under 30 in the most demanding places.

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#24
Posted 02/25/2017 09:29 AM   
[quote="Metaloholic"]Tomb is some a what more fluid overal but its still running most of the time under 30 in the most demanding places.[/quote] Which Tomb Raider game is this? ROTTR? or 2013? What is you resolution and in-game settings? I am curious as I can try to make the same benchmark on my system and see what I get compared to yours!
Metaloholic said:Tomb is some a what more fluid overal but its still running most of the time under 30 in the most demanding places.


Which Tomb Raider game is this? ROTTR? or 2013?
What is you resolution and in-game settings?

I am curious as I can try to make the same benchmark on my system and see what I get compared to yours!

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etc


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#25
Posted 02/25/2017 12:24 PM   
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#26
Posted 02/25/2017 03:57 PM   
The tombrider is rise, community release. 1080p vsynch on. tomb is running averal a little better than with 980ti but still i expected more. soviet installation is runnin in 30ish. but like here in start it´s 27fps though gpu usage is not peaking and no cpu peaking. and if i maxxAA only thing i get gpu sky rocket and fans are loud as hell. nothing i did not expected, propably gonna water this shit and get a new board and shit when i have some bucks to spare. rott settings [img]http://i68.tinypic.com/2i6ytdl.jpg[/img] [img]http://i63.tinypic.com/2uf3908.jpg[/img] [img]http://i64.tinypic.com/etscxu.jpg[/img] AAoff [img]http://i68.tinypic.com/2upqz54.jpg[/img] AAmaxed out fans high gpu skyrocket [img]http://i68.tinypic.com/1607fhc.jpg[/img] hitman [img]http://i65.tinypic.com/282nt3t.jpg[/img] [img]http://i68.tinypic.com/29g2b93.jpg[/img] if i can´t do anythign by DDUing any tips to get my frames up with this anchient cpu ? i would not wanna decrese res as i have 1080p native projectors.
The tombrider is rise, community release. 1080p vsynch on.
tomb is running averal a little better than with 980ti but still i
expected more. soviet installation is runnin in 30ish. but like here in start it´s
27fps though gpu usage is not peaking and no cpu peaking. and if i maxxAA only thing i get
gpu sky rocket and fans are loud as hell. nothing i did not expected, propably gonna water this shit
and get a new board and shit when i have some bucks to spare.

rott settings
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AAoff
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AAmaxed out fans high gpu skyrocket
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hitman

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if i can´t do anythign by DDUing any tips to get my frames up with this anchient cpu ?
i would not wanna decrese res as i have 1080p native projectors.

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#27
Posted 02/25/2017 04:14 PM   
Helifax. I would have run the benchmark but i need to switch build to do it ? Does it mess my installation ?
Helifax. I would have run the benchmark but i need to switch build to do it ?
Does it mess my installation ?

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#28
Posted 02/25/2017 06:07 PM   
Metaloholic, you have encountered the 3D Vision CPU bottleneck bug. Just because the CPU does not max does not mean it is not maxed. It all depends on how many threads the game uses. If it only uses 2 threads properly and you have a 4 core system, the CPU usage will never go above 50% usage, even though it is maxing the CPU (2 cores of the CPU are maxed). Now the bug part: turning off MSAA and ensuring that your GPU is always <90% usage through the entire benchmark: 1. Turn ON 3D Vision and pay close attention to average CPU usage. Write this down. 2. Turn OFF 3D Vision and pay close attention to average CPU usage. Write this down. You will notice that with 3D Vision, the CPU usage is significantly less. The only way to mitigate this problem so far is to clock your CPU higher or get a really fast CPU. nvidia says that its a bug in the 3D Vision driver which causes the main game thread on tested games on the CPU to sit idly. They are apparently working on a fix. No ETA as of yet. For what it's worth, I got 60FPS solid in non-Open world areas in Rise of the Tomb Raider. In open world areas such as the soviet installation, I would get 54-60. If the CPU didn't drop in usage, we would get 60 solid no matter where.
Metaloholic, you have encountered the 3D Vision CPU bottleneck bug.

Just because the CPU does not max does not mean it is not maxed.

It all depends on how many threads the game uses. If it only uses 2 threads properly and you have a 4 core system, the CPU usage will never go above 50% usage, even though it is maxing the CPU (2 cores of the CPU are maxed).

Now the bug part: turning off MSAA and ensuring that your GPU is always <90% usage through the entire benchmark:
1. Turn ON 3D Vision and pay close attention to average CPU usage. Write this down.
2. Turn OFF 3D Vision and pay close attention to average CPU usage. Write this down.

You will notice that with 3D Vision, the CPU usage is significantly less.

The only way to mitigate this problem so far is to clock your CPU higher or get a really fast CPU.

nvidia says that its a bug in the 3D Vision driver which causes the main game thread on tested games on the CPU to sit idly. They are apparently working on a fix. No ETA as of yet.


For what it's worth, I got 60FPS solid in non-Open world areas in Rise of the Tomb Raider. In open world areas such as the soviet installation, I would get 54-60.

If the CPU didn't drop in usage, we would get 60 solid no matter where.

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#29
Posted 02/25/2017 06:23 PM   
I was gonna upgrade LATE this year but well se when all this AMD , Intel $ drop is blown in the wind and settled i propably Have to change my setup. its sad to see my cpu finally hit the stop. Allthough on the plus side i propably get by few years with my Titan after changing mobo/cpu ect to modern date as i only use fullhd.
I was gonna upgrade LATE this year but well se when all this AMD , Intel $ drop is blown in the wind and settled i propably
Have to change my setup.

its sad to see my cpu finally hit the stop. Allthough on the plus side i propably get by few years with my Titan after changing mobo/cpu ect to modern date as i only use fullhd.

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#30
Posted 02/25/2017 08:00 PM   
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