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I've just purchased an alienware m15x - state of the art laptop, and amnalienware addition monitor that can do 120 hz.
I got this kit cos a sales rep at alienware said it will do 3d (shutter glasses).
The laptop has a 512 MB NVIDIA GeForce GT240M graphics card and the £350 monitor will certainly handle page flipping.

Yet a tech support lady at nvidia has emailed me to say this kit wont give me 3D display for video and still 3d images!!!
Is this true? Anyone know - if it is true - why. £1600 i paid to alienware so if it dont work i'd like to know why.

cheers
mol
I've just purchased an alienware m15x - state of the art laptop, and amnalienware addition monitor that can do 120 hz.

I got this kit cos a sales rep at alienware said it will do 3d (shutter glasses).

The laptop has a 512 MB NVIDIA GeForce GT240M graphics card and the £350 monitor will certainly handle page flipping.



Yet a tech support lady at nvidia has emailed me to say this kit wont give me 3D display for video and still 3d images!!!

Is this true? Anyone know - if it is true - why. £1600 i paid to alienware so if it dont work i'd like to know why.



cheers

mol

#1
Posted 03/25/2010 11:33 PM   
I have heard that the alienware m15x and m17x doesn't have a Dual-Link-DVI Connector. When I remember the m15x and m17x doesn't have a DVI-connector at all.

No chance with HDMI cause there are missing the additional data-wires.
I have heard that the alienware m15x and m17x doesn't have a Dual-Link-DVI Connector. When I remember the m15x and m17x doesn't have a DVI-connector at all.



No chance with HDMI cause there are missing the additional data-wires.

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#2
Posted 03/26/2010 06:08 AM   
[quote name='Flint Eastwood' post='1027255' date='Mar 26 2010, 06:08 AM']I have heard that the alienware m15x and m17x doesn't have a Dual-Link-DVI Connector. When I remember the m15x and m17x doesn't have a DVI-connector at all.

No chance with HDMI cause there are missing the additional data-wires.[/quote]


Thanks for that. it has a display port: In the interest of interoperability, the DisplayPort connection is capable of supporting HDMI/DVI signals.[8] DisplayPort has issued guidelines on the construction of active DisplayPort-to-VGA, DisplayPort-to-SVIDEO/Composite/Other, DisplayPort-to-Dual-Link-DVI/HDMI, and Dual-Link-DVI/HDMI-to-DisplayPort Converters.[citation needed] In addition to active converters, the same guideline document also describes a way for devices supporting both DisplayPort and DVI 1.0 or HDMI to use a single DisplayPort connector for both, using a relatively simple adapter that adjusts for the lower voltages required by the DisplayPort connector. A notable limitation is that this is limited to Single Link DVI/HDMI, and that an active Converter is needed for Dual-Link communication.

Could i use a display port active convertor:
DisplayPort to DVI Dual Link Active Converter – USB Pow



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This DisplayPort to DVI Dual Link adapter lets you connect a DVI-D display to a DisplayPort video source (e.g.DisplayPort video cards, etc.), eliminating the expense of having to upgrade to a DisplayPort capable display.

The main advantage of this adapter is the resolution that it is capable of outputting and that it is USB powered. With a Maximum resolution support of 2560x1600 you can keep the large digital display / monitor you recently purchased and take full advantage of Dual Link DVI resolutions.

Looking for a single link DVI adapter? Our DP2DVI can support a maximum resolution of 1920x1200.
Certifications, Reports and Compatibility


regards
mol
[quote name='Flint Eastwood' post='1027255' date='Mar 26 2010, 06:08 AM']I have heard that the alienware m15x and m17x doesn't have a Dual-Link-DVI Connector. When I remember the m15x and m17x doesn't have a DVI-connector at all.



No chance with HDMI cause there are missing the additional data-wires.





Thanks for that. it has a display port: In the interest of interoperability, the DisplayPort connection is capable of supporting HDMI/DVI signals.[8] DisplayPort has issued guidelines on the construction of active DisplayPort-to-VGA, DisplayPort-to-SVIDEO/Composite/Other, DisplayPort-to-Dual-Link-DVI/HDMI, and Dual-Link-DVI/HDMI-to-DisplayPort Converters.[citation needed] In addition to active converters, the same guideline document also describes a way for devices supporting both DisplayPort and DVI 1.0 or HDMI to use a single DisplayPort connector for both, using a relatively simple adapter that adjusts for the lower voltages required by the DisplayPort connector. A notable limitation is that this is limited to Single Link DVI/HDMI, and that an active Converter is needed for Dual-Link communication.



Could i use a display port active convertor:

DisplayPort to DVI Dual Link Active Converter – USB Pow







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This DisplayPort to DVI Dual Link adapter lets you connect a DVI-D display to a DisplayPort video source (e.g.DisplayPort video cards, etc.), eliminating the expense of having to upgrade to a DisplayPort capable display.



The main advantage of this adapter is the resolution that it is capable of outputting and that it is USB powered. With a Maximum resolution support of 2560x1600 you can keep the large digital display / monitor you recently purchased and take full advantage of Dual Link DVI resolutions.



Looking for a single link DVI adapter? Our DP2DVI can support a maximum resolution of 1920x1200.

Certifications, Reports and Compatibility





regards

mol

#3
Posted 03/26/2010 07:04 AM   
Didn't know that the Display-Port-Connector is Dual-Link capable :"> . It would be really interesting if it works with an adapter like this: [url="http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/products/Cables/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&cs=19&sku=330-5521"]Dell DisplayPort to Dual Link DVI Adapter for Alienware Laptops[/url]
Didn't know that the Display-Port-Connector is Dual-Link capable :"> . It would be really interesting if it works with an adapter like this: Dell DisplayPort to Dual Link DVI Adapter for Alienware Laptops

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#4
Posted 03/26/2010 08:14 PM   
[quote name='Flint Eastwood' post='1027642' date='Mar 26 2010, 08:14 PM']Didn't know that the Display-Port-Connector is Dual-Link capable :"> . It would be really interesting if it works with an adapter like this: [url="http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/products/Cables/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&cs=19&sku=330-5521"]Dell DisplayPort to Dual Link DVI Adapter for Alienware Laptops[/url][/quote]


we will find out and I will let you know. I have ordered it and 3d vision. Best way is to try and see. If it doesn't work out, I will sell the kit on ebay and get some of the money back. Well done for spotting that convertor out.

regards
mol
[quote name='Flint Eastwood' post='1027642' date='Mar 26 2010, 08:14 PM']Didn't know that the Display-Port-Connector is Dual-Link capable :"> . It would be really interesting if it works with an adapter like this: Dell DisplayPort to Dual Link DVI Adapter for Alienware Laptops





we will find out and I will let you know. I have ordered it and 3d vision. Best way is to try and see. If it doesn't work out, I will sell the kit on ebay and get some of the money back. Well done for spotting that convertor out.



regards

mol

#5
Posted 03/26/2010 10:43 PM   
[quote name='molsmith' post='1027755' date='Mar 27 2010, 12:43 AM']we will find out and I will let you know. I have ordered it and 3d vision. Best way is to try and see. If it doesn't work out, I will sell the kit on ebay and get some of the money back. Well done for spotting that convertor out.

regards
mol[/quote]


Any news??? /w00twave.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':w00twave:' />
[quote name='molsmith' post='1027755' date='Mar 27 2010, 12:43 AM']we will find out and I will let you know. I have ordered it and 3d vision. Best way is to try and see. If it doesn't work out, I will sell the kit on ebay and get some of the money back. Well done for spotting that convertor out.



regards

mol





Any news??? /w00twave.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':w00twave:' />

#6
Posted 04/28/2010 08:07 PM   
[quote name='molsmith' post='1027755' date='Mar 26 2010, 11:43 PM']we will find out and I will let you know. I have ordered it and 3d vision. Best way is to try and see. If it doesn't work out, I will sell the kit on ebay and get some of the money back. Well done for spotting that convertor out.

regards
mol[/quote]


So did you try the 3D vision kit?

I have a XPS M1730 laptop with Geforce 9800m SLI. It has a single DVI out. I'd like to know if I can run 3D Vision on the single DVI, even if I have to drop the resolution (720p).

Thanks in advance.
[quote name='molsmith' post='1027755' date='Mar 26 2010, 11:43 PM']we will find out and I will let you know. I have ordered it and 3d vision. Best way is to try and see. If it doesn't work out, I will sell the kit on ebay and get some of the money back. Well done for spotting that convertor out.



regards

mol





So did you try the 3D vision kit?



I have a XPS M1730 laptop with Geforce 9800m SLI. It has a single DVI out. I'd like to know if I can run 3D Vision on the single DVI, even if I have to drop the resolution (720p).



Thanks in advance.

#7
Posted 05/26/2010 03:59 PM   
[quote name='molsmith' post='1027755' date='Mar 26 2010, 11:43 PM']we will find out and I will let you know. I have ordered it and 3d vision. Best way is to try and see. If it doesn't work out, I will sell the kit on ebay and get some of the money back. Well done for spotting that convertor out.

regards
mol[/quote]


So did you try the 3D vision kit?

I have a XPS M1730 laptop with Geforce 9800m SLI. It has a single DVI out. I'd like to know if I can run 3D Vision on the single DVI, even if I have to drop the resolution (720p).

Thanks in advance.
[quote name='molsmith' post='1027755' date='Mar 26 2010, 11:43 PM']we will find out and I will let you know. I have ordered it and 3d vision. Best way is to try and see. If it doesn't work out, I will sell the kit on ebay and get some of the money back. Well done for spotting that convertor out.



regards

mol





So did you try the 3D vision kit?



I have a XPS M1730 laptop with Geforce 9800m SLI. It has a single DVI out. I'd like to know if I can run 3D Vision on the single DVI, even if I have to drop the resolution (720p).



Thanks in advance.

#8
Posted 05/26/2010 03:59 PM   
The XPS 1730 has a single Dual-Link DVI that can drive an external 120Hz LCD even at Full HD resolution, so you should not have problems.
The XPS 1730 has a single Dual-Link DVI that can drive an external 120Hz LCD even at Full HD resolution, so you should not have problems.

My 3D Vision Blog - 3dvision-blog.com

#9
Posted 05/26/2010 04:41 PM   
The XPS 1730 has a single Dual-Link DVI that can drive an external 120Hz LCD even at Full HD resolution, so you should not have problems.
The XPS 1730 has a single Dual-Link DVI that can drive an external 120Hz LCD even at Full HD resolution, so you should not have problems.

My 3D Vision Blog - 3dvision-blog.com

#10
Posted 05/26/2010 04:41 PM   
dont expect awesome FPS, desktops often struggle to keep playable fps in games and users end up using SLI setups to ensure a smooth experience and a laptop is a lot slower. its probably fine for 3d movies and the likes of it, but dont expect to play recent titles with 3d at a smooth framerate.
dont expect awesome FPS, desktops often struggle to keep playable fps in games and users end up using SLI setups to ensure a smooth experience and a laptop is a lot slower. its probably fine for 3d movies and the likes of it, but dont expect to play recent titles with 3d at a smooth framerate.

#11
Posted 05/26/2010 04:56 PM   
dont expect awesome FPS, desktops often struggle to keep playable fps in games and users end up using SLI setups to ensure a smooth experience and a laptop is a lot slower. its probably fine for 3d movies and the likes of it, but dont expect to play recent titles with 3d at a smooth framerate.
dont expect awesome FPS, desktops often struggle to keep playable fps in games and users end up using SLI setups to ensure a smooth experience and a laptop is a lot slower. its probably fine for 3d movies and the likes of it, but dont expect to play recent titles with 3d at a smooth framerate.

#12
Posted 05/26/2010 04:56 PM   
Thanks for the feedback. Can anyone comment on the gaming performance using 3D vision with a 9800m in SLI?

Games such as Left 4 Dead 2, Modern Warfare 2, Resident Evil 5, etc run very well even on low end cards such as the 8700m (which i used to own). So on a 9800m, even with those games running in stereoscopic mode, I would expect reasonably good performance and FPS.

I read somewhere that it was equivalent to running the game twice simultaneously. My 8700m could run Modern Warfare 2 in max, so i'm guessing the 9800m could run it twice over without breaking too much of a sweat...?

Anymore feedback is appreciated.
Thanks for the feedback. Can anyone comment on the gaming performance using 3D vision with a 9800m in SLI?



Games such as Left 4 Dead 2, Modern Warfare 2, Resident Evil 5, etc run very well even on low end cards such as the 8700m (which i used to own). So on a 9800m, even with those games running in stereoscopic mode, I would expect reasonably good performance and FPS.



I read somewhere that it was equivalent to running the game twice simultaneously. My 8700m could run Modern Warfare 2 in max, so i'm guessing the 9800m could run it twice over without breaking too much of a sweat...?



Anymore feedback is appreciated.

#13
Posted 05/26/2010 06:36 PM   
Thanks for the feedback. Can anyone comment on the gaming performance using 3D vision with a 9800m in SLI?

Games such as Left 4 Dead 2, Modern Warfare 2, Resident Evil 5, etc run very well even on low end cards such as the 8700m (which i used to own). So on a 9800m, even with those games running in stereoscopic mode, I would expect reasonably good performance and FPS.

I read somewhere that it was equivalent to running the game twice simultaneously. My 8700m could run Modern Warfare 2 in max, so i'm guessing the 9800m could run it twice over without breaking too much of a sweat...?

Anymore feedback is appreciated.
Thanks for the feedback. Can anyone comment on the gaming performance using 3D vision with a 9800m in SLI?



Games such as Left 4 Dead 2, Modern Warfare 2, Resident Evil 5, etc run very well even on low end cards such as the 8700m (which i used to own). So on a 9800m, even with those games running in stereoscopic mode, I would expect reasonably good performance and FPS.



I read somewhere that it was equivalent to running the game twice simultaneously. My 8700m could run Modern Warfare 2 in max, so i'm guessing the 9800m could run it twice over without breaking too much of a sweat...?



Anymore feedback is appreciated.

#14
Posted 05/26/2010 06:36 PM   
To elaborate, it's the Dual 9800m GTX in SLI that I have.

I emailed Nvidia about it and they said that those cards are 'not supported', however i have read elsewhere that people are running 3D Vision quite happily with these cards.

Does anyone have any insight they could share on this matter..?
To elaborate, it's the Dual 9800m GTX in SLI that I have.



I emailed Nvidia about it and they said that those cards are 'not supported', however i have read elsewhere that people are running 3D Vision quite happily with these cards.



Does anyone have any insight they could share on this matter..?

#15
Posted 06/01/2010 05:14 PM   
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