Games that support HDR?
Hello. Does anybody know of any games that support HDR for PC? I know Maxwell and pascal have the hardware to do it but I can't seem to find any games for PC that support it. I've read that battlefield one is supposed to get an update to support it but I don't think it's out yet. The new Mass effect is supposed to support it but does it work? Has anyone on here tried it? Nvidia also talked about adding support to tombraider and some other games but have they? My Sony 4K projector should be arriving today and want to try some 4K HDR on it. Thanks.
Hello.
Does anybody know of any games that support HDR for PC?

I know Maxwell and pascal have the hardware to do it but I can't seem to find any games for PC that support it.

I've read that battlefield one is supposed to get an update to support it but I don't think it's out yet.

The new Mass effect is supposed to support it but does it work?
Has anyone on here tried it?

Nvidia also talked about adding support to tombraider and some other games but have they?
My Sony 4K projector should be arriving today and want to try some 4K HDR on it.
Thanks.

#1
Posted 07/28/2017 12:11 PM   
Shadow Warrior 2 already do it no? If i remember, there is a list of game that will support Hdr, at Nvidia website. Curious to know the complete list. I'm in vacation and phone, can't check for you.
Shadow Warrior 2 already do it no?

If i remember, there is a list of game that will support Hdr, at Nvidia website.

Curious to know the complete list.

I'm in vacation and phone, can't check for you.

#2
Posted 07/28/2017 01:16 PM   
shadow warrior 2 resident evil 7 obduction and I think mass effect Andromeda now supports dolby vision.. but I cant enjoy both worlds because my 8 bit color edid restricts me.. but who really gives a $%^& about that.. I love 3d and it satisfies me without the extra colors and brightness
shadow warrior 2
resident evil 7
obduction
and I think mass effect Andromeda now supports dolby vision..
but I cant enjoy both worlds because my 8 bit color edid restricts me..
but who really gives a $%^& about that..
I love 3d and it satisfies me without the extra colors and brightness

#3
Posted 07/28/2017 04:05 PM   
Half-Life 2: Lost Coast supports HDR and it's a very old game [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Half-Life_2%3A_Lost_Coast#High-dynamic-range_rendering[/url]
Half-Life 2: Lost Coast supports HDR and it's a very old game https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Half-Life_2%3A_Lost_Coast#High-dynamic-range_rendering

#4
Posted 07/28/2017 11:23 PM   
[quote="john3"]Half-Life 2: Lost Coast supports HDR and it's a very old game [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Half-Life_2%3A_Lost_Coast#High-dynamic-range_rendering[/url][/quote] Not the same thing at all: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-dynamic-range_video What you say about HL2 is software (fake) HDR. It adapts scenes that should be outside of your brightness range to SDR, using "eye adaptation" over a few seconds. For example, with real HDR, a cave should be very dark and the sun should almost burn your eyes. But both of them should be able to be represented by the monitor in absolute values (one at low nits, the other at thousands of nits. Ideally with independent brightness by pixel). Meanwhile, SDR monitors have static brightness, and the scene has to adapt to that. Now a lamp in the cave has the same brightness as the sun (RBG at 255,255,255, with whatever your brightness is configured to be). I could expand it more, but that's my crappy explanation done just before going to sleep :p. 4K + OLED + 3D + HDR + >60Hz per eye + super low persistence + G-Sync would be perfection (outside of ever increasing standards of resolution and refresh rate).
john3 said:Half-Life 2: Lost Coast supports HDR and it's a very old game https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Half-Life_2%3A_Lost_Coast#High-dynamic-range_rendering


Not the same thing at all: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-dynamic-range_video

What you say about HL2 is software (fake) HDR. It adapts scenes that should be outside of your brightness range to SDR, using "eye adaptation" over a few seconds.

For example, with real HDR, a cave should be very dark and the sun should almost burn your eyes. But both of them should be able to be represented by the monitor in absolute values (one at low nits, the other at thousands of nits. Ideally with independent brightness by pixel).

Meanwhile, SDR monitors have static brightness, and the scene has to adapt to that. Now a lamp in the cave has the same brightness as the sun (RBG at 255,255,255, with whatever your brightness is configured to be).

I could expand it more, but that's my crappy explanation done just before going to sleep :p.


4K + OLED + 3D + HDR + >60Hz per eye + super low persistence + G-Sync would be perfection (outside of ever increasing standards of resolution and refresh rate).

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#5
Posted 07/28/2017 11:53 PM   
[quote="masterotaku"][quote="john3"]Half-Life 2: Lost Coast supports HDR and it's a very old game [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Half-Life_2%3A_Lost_Coast#High-dynamic-range_rendering[/url][/quote] Not the same thing at all: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-dynamic-range_video What you say about HL2 is software (fake) HDR. It adapts scenes that should be outside of your brightness range to SDR, using "eye adaptation" over a few seconds. For example, with real HDR, a cave should be very dark and the sun should almost burn your eyes. But both of them should be able to be represented by the monitor in absolute values (one at low nits, the other at thousands of nits. Ideally with independent brightness by pixel). Meanwhile, SDR monitors have static brightness, and the scene has to adapt to that. Now a lamp in the cave has the same brightness as the sun (RBG at 255,255,255, with whatever your brightness is configured to be). I could expand it more, but that's my crappy explanation done just before going to sleep :p. 4K + OLED + 3D + HDR + >60Hz per eye + super low persistence + G-Sync would be perfection (outside of ever increasing standards of resolution and refresh rate).[/quote] My point is HDR is not something new as marketing wants people to believe. Call it fake HDR if you want, but maybe 10 years from now, new HDR will be "invented" and you'll start calling what they market today fake HDR.
masterotaku said:
john3 said:Half-Life 2: Lost Coast supports HDR and it's a very old game https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Half-Life_2%3A_Lost_Coast#High-dynamic-range_rendering


Not the same thing at all: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-dynamic-range_video

What you say about HL2 is software (fake) HDR. It adapts scenes that should be outside of your brightness range to SDR, using "eye adaptation" over a few seconds.

For example, with real HDR, a cave should be very dark and the sun should almost burn your eyes. But both of them should be able to be represented by the monitor in absolute values (one at low nits, the other at thousands of nits. Ideally with independent brightness by pixel).

Meanwhile, SDR monitors have static brightness, and the scene has to adapt to that. Now a lamp in the cave has the same brightness as the sun (RBG at 255,255,255, with whatever your brightness is configured to be).

I could expand it more, but that's my crappy explanation done just before going to sleep :p.


4K + OLED + 3D + HDR + >60Hz per eye + super low persistence + G-Sync would be perfection (outside of ever increasing standards of resolution and refresh rate).

My point is HDR is not something new as marketing wants people to believe. Call it fake HDR if you want, but maybe 10 years from now, new HDR will be "invented" and you'll start calling what they market today fake HDR.

#6
Posted 07/29/2017 01:08 AM   
I think Its just marketing blabber. There much more to a good picture than some hdr. If you you buy 3k tv with or without hdr you get same quality device. Maby even better non Hdr device as you pay none for the name HDR
I think Its just marketing blabber. There much more to a good picture than some hdr.
If you you buy 3k tv with or without hdr you get same quality device. Maby even better non
Hdr device as you pay none for the name HDR

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#7
Posted 07/29/2017 07:47 AM   
Display-level HDR is no gimmick. Obviously, when every TV is going to have it, the HDR tag is no guarantee for the best picture, but it's a big improvement over previous models within the same class of tech (LCD, OLED, etc.). It's nothing new for people that are used to top-quality CRTs and plasmas, but it does a lot to bring LCDs to the same level of contrast and color-quality. For OLEDs the standards mandate a big boost to peak brightness, so it's driving tech the right way for sure.
Display-level HDR is no gimmick. Obviously, when every TV is going to have it, the HDR tag is no guarantee for the best picture, but it's a big improvement over previous models within the same class of tech (LCD, OLED, etc.). It's nothing new for people that are used to top-quality CRTs and plasmas, but it does a lot to bring LCDs to the same level of contrast and color-quality. For OLEDs the standards mandate a big boost to peak brightness, so it's driving tech the right way for sure.

#8
Posted 07/29/2017 04:24 PM   
HDR looks amazing. You can switch it on and off and combined with the bt2020 colour space it looks phenomenal. Watch planet earth 2 on 4K bluray with HDR enabled and it'll blow you away. This Sony vpl-vw320es projector is fucking unreal btw. The blacks, whites, colours, contrast are like nothing I've seen before. It's almost as good as oled and is way better than LED TV's. I haven't got my 3D glasses yet but I can't wait to try it out on this beast! Tombraider in 4k should be jaw dropping. I just hope that this Sony isn't too crosstalkeeeee (new word) Seriously going from my Panasonic pt-at6000e is a big step up. Btw I'm selling my Panasonic blower if anyone wants it? I'm based in the UK and have 2 pairs of 3D glasses for it. I have this weird bug with the projector though where I can't get HDR to look right. It's all washed out and really dull. I've heard it's a bug with the windows creators update but I can't see a way past it. Anyone had this problem on their TV or projector?
HDR looks amazing. You can switch it on and off and combined with the bt2020 colour space it looks phenomenal.
Watch planet earth 2 on 4K bluray with HDR enabled and it'll blow you away.

This Sony vpl-vw320es projector is fucking unreal btw.
The blacks, whites, colours, contrast are like nothing I've seen before.
It's almost as good as oled and is way better than LED TV's.

I haven't got my 3D glasses yet but I can't wait to try it out on this beast!
Tombraider in 4k should be jaw dropping. I just hope that this Sony isn't too crosstalkeeeee (new word)
Seriously going from my Panasonic pt-at6000e is a big step up.

Btw I'm selling my Panasonic blower if anyone wants it? I'm based in the UK and have 2 pairs of 3D glasses for it.

I have this weird bug with the projector though where I can't get HDR to look right. It's all washed out and really dull.
I've heard it's a bug with the windows creators update but I can't see a way past it.
Anyone had this problem on their TV or projector?

#9
Posted 07/29/2017 06:49 PM   
Looks like HDR is broken in the windows creators update. Worked fine before apparently. Microsoft are blaming nvidia and nvidia are blaming Microsoft! http://www.avsforum.com/forum/465-high-dynamic-range-hdr-wide-color-gamut-wcg/2575889-enable-hdr-pc-3.html#/topics/2575889?page=12 Typical!
Looks like HDR is broken in the windows creators update.
Worked fine before apparently.
Microsoft are blaming nvidia and nvidia are blaming Microsoft!
http://www.avsforum.com/forum/465-high-dynamic-range-hdr-wide-color-gamut-wcg/2575889-enable-hdr-pc-3.html#/topics/2575889?page=12

Typical!

#10
Posted 07/30/2017 12:47 PM   
I've had some hit and miss experiences getting HDR to work with my LG OLED 55E6. I dual boot between Win 10 (Insider Fast Ring) and Win 8.1. In Win 8.1 I use the EDID override to play stuff in 4K at 3D, but I don't think I've got HDR to work correctly. In Win 10 I found that the latest nVidia drivers don't seem to work correctly, but dropping back to 378.92 I can get it to work. I haven't done the EDID override in Win 10 so I can't get 3D Vision to work as I'd want but the display is correctly recognised as a 12bit capable panel. I've tried RE7, Hitman and Mass Effect Andromeda and got HDR to enable in all of them. It looks really good - you have to see it in the flesh to really appreciate the difference. With ME:A however despite Dolby Vision support being available I've never managed to get the TV to enable that. It could be an nVidia driver thing of course. Word is the input lag with Dolby Vision enabled is pretty large. Things seem pretty all over the place. You can enable HDR at desktop level in the latest Windows 10 builds but I don't know if you NEED that to get the games to allow you to enable HDR. Also you can set your nVidia control panel to output 10 and 12 bit (at YUV 4:2:2 for 60Hz for HDMI bandwidth reasons) but again I'm not sure if that is necessary to get the games to kick into HDR. I think so - which would explain why under my Win 8.1 where I use the Acer EDID override I can't enable more than 8bit and can't get HDR to enable. There's no doubt if you want HDR gaming for your new 4K TV a PS4 or Xbox One is an easier bet and a lot more games are supported. Until it becomes a lot easier for users to get it working I can't imagine many PC games will offer it. I really hope Assassin's Creed ships this October with HDR for PC as otherwise I'll be seriously wondering whether to get the Xbox One X version of that. Horizon Zero Dawn has gobsmacking vistas with sunrises and sunsets glowing beautifully. There's a richness to the colours that reminds me of the day I bought a Matrox card that did 32bit colour and marvelled at how much better 3D games looked. HDR and 3D - that'd be lovely of course; if I had to choose I'd go 3D of course, especially writing in this forum! When I got 3D working at 4K on this LG OLED it was and still is an emotional experience. I'm very glad I picked up the last year's model with 3D still available.
I've had some hit and miss experiences getting HDR to work with my LG OLED 55E6. I dual boot between Win 10 (Insider Fast Ring) and Win 8.1. In Win 8.1 I use the EDID override to play stuff in 4K at 3D, but I don't think I've got HDR to work correctly. In Win 10 I found that the latest nVidia drivers don't seem to work correctly, but dropping back to 378.92 I can get it to work. I haven't done the EDID override in Win 10 so I can't get 3D Vision to work as I'd want but the display is correctly recognised as a 12bit capable panel.

I've tried RE7, Hitman and Mass Effect Andromeda and got HDR to enable in all of them. It looks really good - you have to see it in the flesh to really appreciate the difference.

With ME:A however despite Dolby Vision support being available I've never managed to get the TV to enable that. It could be an nVidia driver thing of course. Word is the input lag with Dolby Vision enabled is pretty large.

Things seem pretty all over the place. You can enable HDR at desktop level in the latest Windows 10 builds but I don't know if you NEED that to get the games to allow you to enable HDR. Also you can set your nVidia control panel to output 10 and 12 bit (at YUV 4:2:2 for 60Hz for HDMI bandwidth reasons) but again I'm not sure if that is necessary to get the games to kick into HDR. I think so - which would explain why under my Win 8.1 where I use the Acer EDID override I can't enable more than 8bit and can't get HDR to enable.

There's no doubt if you want HDR gaming for your new 4K TV a PS4 or Xbox One is an easier bet and a lot more games are supported. Until it becomes a lot easier for users to get it working I can't imagine many PC games will offer it.

I really hope Assassin's Creed ships this October with HDR for PC as otherwise I'll be seriously wondering whether to get the Xbox One X version of that. Horizon Zero Dawn has gobsmacking vistas with sunrises and sunsets glowing beautifully. There's a richness to the colours that reminds me of the day I bought a Matrox card that did 32bit colour and marvelled at how much better 3D games looked.

HDR and 3D - that'd be lovely of course; if I had to choose I'd go 3D of course, especially writing in this forum! When I got 3D working at 4K on this LG OLED it was and still is an emotional experience. I'm very glad I picked up the last year's model with 3D still available.

#11
Posted 07/30/2017 03:27 PM   
Thanks for the tip about the older driver. I'll give it a try later. If I don't enable HDR in windows, put a 4K HDR movie on in powerdvd, then set the projector to HDR and bt2020 colour space. I get what looks like an HDR signal but my projector doesn't say it's an HDR input. If I enable HDR in windows the projector says I have an HDR input but all the colours are washed out. I don't mean a bit I mean it looks terrible! Is the first method I posted real HDR or is my projector just doing some fake pseudo HDR upscaling?
Thanks for the tip about the older driver. I'll give it a try later.

If I don't enable HDR in windows, put a 4K HDR movie on in powerdvd, then set the projector to HDR and bt2020 colour space.
I get what looks like an HDR signal but my projector doesn't say it's an HDR input.

If I enable HDR in windows the projector says I have an HDR input but all the colours are washed out. I don't mean a bit I mean it looks terrible!

Is the first method I posted real HDR or is my projector just doing some fake pseudo HDR upscaling?

#12
Posted 07/30/2017 03:45 PM   
Here's a good list: https://pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Special:Ask/-5B-5BCategory:Games-5D-5D-20-5B-5Bhigh_dynamic_range::true-5D-5D-20OR-20-5B-5Bhigh_dynamic_range::hackable-5D-5D/-3FDeveloped-20by/-3FPublished-20by/-3FRelease-20date/-3FAvailable-20on/-3Fhigh_dynamic_range/format%3Dtemplate/limit%3D100/template%3DFeature-2Frow/introtemplate%3DFeature-2Fintro/outrotemplate%3DFeature-2Foutro
"In short, Special K can leverage real HDR output from games that were designed to convert the results of t heir HDR pipeline back to SDR for output on non-HDR screens. This is real HDR being added to normal games!" https://steamcommunity.com/groups/SpecialK_Mods
"In short, Special K can leverage real HDR output from games that were designed to convert the results of t heir HDR pipeline back to SDR for output on non-HDR screens. This is real HDR being added to normal games!"



https://steamcommunity.com/groups/SpecialK_Mods

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