Duke Nukem Forever with Nvidia 3D Vision
Duke Nukem Forever is an Nvidia certified "3D ready" game. That is basically the highest rating that a game can get on the 3D quality scale from Nvidia, and means that the game should look absolutely fantastic in 3D. I pre-ordered DNF way before it came out, got my copy, but never played it cause I didn't want to play it until the developers fixed or someone modded in more than 2 weapons at a time. Anyway I decided to finally load up the game just to futz around and check out the 3D. It was GOD AWFUL, like some of the worst I've ever seen. When I have the convergence right on a singular object or person, it is gorgeous, but everything else in the frame gets thrown out of whack. So basically I can only decide to have one object in focus at a time and everything else is completely double imaged, which frankly makes the game flat out impossible to play. So I'm wondering how the hell this thing got the highest marks in 3D readiness from Nvidia? Am I doing something wrong, because I'd imagine all I have to do is load up the game and it is ready to go?
Duke Nukem Forever is an Nvidia certified "3D ready" game. That is basically the highest rating that a game can get on the 3D quality scale from Nvidia, and means that the game should look absolutely fantastic in 3D. I pre-ordered DNF way before it came out, got my copy, but never played it cause I didn't want to play it until the developers fixed or someone modded in more than 2 weapons at a time. Anyway I decided to finally load up the game just to futz around and check out the 3D. It was GOD AWFUL, like some of the worst I've ever seen. When I have the convergence right on a singular object or person, it is gorgeous, but everything else in the frame gets thrown out of whack. So basically I can only decide to have one object in focus at a time and everything else is completely double imaged, which frankly makes the game flat out impossible to play. So I'm wondering how the hell this thing got the highest marks in 3D readiness from Nvidia? Am I doing something wrong, because I'd imagine all I have to do is load up the game and it is ready to go?

#1
Posted 10/13/2011 02:03 AM   
[quote name='Span_Wolf' date='12 October 2011 - 09:03 PM' timestamp='1318471431' post='1307393']
Duke Nukem Forever is an Nvidia certified "3D ready" game. That is basically the highest rating that a game can get on the 3D quality scale from Nvidia, and means that the game should look absolutely fantastic in 3D. I pre-ordered DNF way before it came out, got my copy, but never played it cause I didn't want to play it until the developers fixed or someone modded in more than 2 weapons at a time. Anyway I decided to finally load up the game just to futz around and check out the 3D. It was GOD AWFUL, like some of the worst I've ever seen. When I have the convergence right on a singular object or person, it is gorgeous, but everything else in the frame gets thrown out of whack. So basically I can only decide to have one object in focus at a time and everything else is completely double imaged, which frankly makes the game flat out impossible to play. So I'm wondering how the hell this thing got the highest marks in 3D readiness from Nvidia? Am I doing something wrong, because I'd imagine all I have to do is load up the game and it is ready to go?
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I'm having the same issue with DNForever, but again, I'm havign a convergence problem in most / all of my games, and I can't seem to fix it either.

Don't know what to tell you. It seems to be a side effect of 3D, some of the images are going to have a slight doubling depending on your settings / distance.

Have you gotten any games to work in 3D with zero doubling effects? If so how. I need to know. :P
[quote name='Span_Wolf' date='12 October 2011 - 09:03 PM' timestamp='1318471431' post='1307393']

Duke Nukem Forever is an Nvidia certified "3D ready" game. That is basically the highest rating that a game can get on the 3D quality scale from Nvidia, and means that the game should look absolutely fantastic in 3D. I pre-ordered DNF way before it came out, got my copy, but never played it cause I didn't want to play it until the developers fixed or someone modded in more than 2 weapons at a time. Anyway I decided to finally load up the game just to futz around and check out the 3D. It was GOD AWFUL, like some of the worst I've ever seen. When I have the convergence right on a singular object or person, it is gorgeous, but everything else in the frame gets thrown out of whack. So basically I can only decide to have one object in focus at a time and everything else is completely double imaged, which frankly makes the game flat out impossible to play. So I'm wondering how the hell this thing got the highest marks in 3D readiness from Nvidia? Am I doing something wrong, because I'd imagine all I have to do is load up the game and it is ready to go?





I'm having the same issue with DNForever, but again, I'm havign a convergence problem in most / all of my games, and I can't seem to fix it either.



Don't know what to tell you. It seems to be a side effect of 3D, some of the images are going to have a slight doubling depending on your settings / distance.



Have you gotten any games to work in 3D with zero doubling effects? If so how. I need to know. :P

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#2
Posted 10/13/2011 03:21 AM   
I've had plenty of games look fantastic in 3D. Diablo 3 beta for one looks great. So I know it's not a matter of not being able to get anything to work right.
I've had plenty of games look fantastic in 3D. Diablo 3 beta for one looks great. So I know it's not a matter of not being able to get anything to work right.

#3
Posted 10/13/2011 03:32 AM   
I love Duke Forever. It's one of my favorite games this year.

I've had no problems with the 3d in the game. It looks outstanding to me. I have convergence set up so that the tip of my gun is right at screen depth. Then I turn up the depth pretty high, as I don't need to always focus on the gun itself. Looks gorgeus! I don't know what else the problem could be for you guys. Lighting, shadows, water, crosshair... everything renders perfectly in 3d.

Oh, btw if yall didn't know, the DLC is FREE for anyone who is a First Access Club memeber. Just log into first access, get your key, and download through steam! /thumbup.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':thumbup:' />
I love Duke Forever. It's one of my favorite games this year.



I've had no problems with the 3d in the game. It looks outstanding to me. I have convergence set up so that the tip of my gun is right at screen depth. Then I turn up the depth pretty high, as I don't need to always focus on the gun itself. Looks gorgeus! I don't know what else the problem could be for you guys. Lighting, shadows, water, crosshair... everything renders perfectly in 3d.



Oh, btw if yall didn't know, the DLC is FREE for anyone who is a First Access Club memeber. Just log into first access, get your key, and download through steam! /thumbup.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':thumbup:' />

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#4
Posted 10/13/2011 12:44 PM   
I was having the same problems till I installed the latest beta drivers. Now it's perfect. Try installing the latest beta drivers that should fix it.
I was having the same problems till I installed the latest beta drivers. Now it's perfect. Try installing the latest beta drivers that should fix it.

#5
Posted 10/13/2011 01:10 PM   
I have the latest beta drivers installed. I don't know if it helps, but youtube 3D doesn't work for me either. When I try to put it in HTML5 it says I can't, even though the system checker on the website says I'm set to pop on the required specs.
I have the latest beta drivers installed. I don't know if it helps, but youtube 3D doesn't work for me either. When I try to put it in HTML5 it says I can't, even though the system checker on the website says I'm set to pop on the required specs.

#6
Posted 10/13/2011 07:04 PM   
Just an update. I have replaced my GTX 460 with a GTX 580 and still the same thing. I have the latest drivers, I've tried adjusting the convergence in game, and nothing will make it look even passable.
Just an update. I have replaced my GTX 460 with a GTX 580 and still the same thing. I have the latest drivers, I've tried adjusting the convergence in game, and nothing will make it look even passable.

#7
Posted 10/20/2011 02:03 AM   
[quote name='Span_Wolf' date='20 October 2011 - 03:03 AM' timestamp='1319076210' post='1310699']
Just an update. I have replaced my GTX 460 with a GTX 580 and still the same thing. I have the latest drivers, I've tried adjusting the convergence in game, and nothing will make it look even passable.
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Did you try. http://www.nvidia.com/object/win7-winvista-32bit-285.38-beta-driver.html drivers
This is for Windows 7 32bit
[quote name='Span_Wolf' date='20 October 2011 - 03:03 AM' timestamp='1319076210' post='1310699']

Just an update. I have replaced my GTX 460 with a GTX 580 and still the same thing. I have the latest drivers, I've tried adjusting the convergence in game, and nothing will make it look even passable.





Did you try. http://www.nvidia.com/object/win7-winvista-32bit-285.38-beta-driver.html drivers

This is for Windows 7 32bit

#8
Posted 10/20/2011 03:27 AM   
[quote name='alex1g' date='19 October 2011 - 07:27 PM' timestamp='1319081226' post='1310733']
Did you try. http://www.nvidia.com/object/win7-winvista-32bit-285.38-beta-driver.html drivers
This is for Windows 7 32bit
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I'm on Win7 64bit.
[quote name='alex1g' date='19 October 2011 - 07:27 PM' timestamp='1319081226' post='1310733']

Did you try. http://www.nvidia.com/object/win7-winvista-32bit-285.38-beta-driver.html drivers

This is for Windows 7 32bit



I'm on Win7 64bit.

#9
Posted 10/20/2011 09:04 PM   
you should post some stereo screenshots of your convergence problem.
you should post some stereo screenshots of your convergence problem.

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#10
Posted 10/20/2011 09:59 PM   
[quote name='AcidBong' date='20 October 2011 - 01:59 PM' timestamp='1319147977' post='1311142']
you should post some stereo screenshots of your convergence problem.
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I haven't tried taking any stereo screenshots yet. Do I need to do anything special to take a 3D screenshot?
[quote name='AcidBong' date='20 October 2011 - 01:59 PM' timestamp='1319147977' post='1311142']

you should post some stereo screenshots of your convergence problem.



I haven't tried taking any stereo screenshots yet. Do I need to do anything special to take a 3D screenshot?

#11
Posted 10/21/2011 08:38 AM   
The default is alt-f1. Then in your documents folder you should see a folder called NVstereoscopic3d.IMG. Thats where all your stereo screenshots will be stored. grab one and post it here so we can help a bit more. /biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':biggrin:' />
The default is alt-f1. Then in your documents folder you should see a folder called NVstereoscopic3d.IMG. Thats where all your stereo screenshots will be stored. grab one and post it here so we can help a bit more. /biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':biggrin:' />

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#12
Posted 10/21/2011 03:23 PM   
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=48CH6XHI

Here you go, I took some screenshots of default convergence, and then I fiddled with it a bit. As you can see when I fiddled with it I can make the characters look nice but everything else gets messed up.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=48CH6XHI



Here you go, I took some screenshots of default convergence, and then I fiddled with it a bit. As you can see when I fiddled with it I can make the characters look nice but everything else gets messed up.

#13
Posted 10/22/2011 10:04 PM   
Well, the default convergence like in your first pics isn't that good I agree. I think what you're seeing isnt a convergence problem but a crosstalk problem, as the scene looks normal to me. But Duke has quite a bit of crosstalk when there are dark areas with bright stuff.

Your second convergence setting looks like you tried to pull all that together to get rid of it. however, in doing that it's like pulling everything closer to your eyes. So that turd in your hand would be equivalent to holding it up to one eye in real life.

Best setting I got was to use about a 1/4 depth setting, and converged so that my fists were pretty far "out of screen". As far as my eyes could comfortably focus on them. It's definately better than flat 2d, and crosstalk is minimal.

Other than that, your screenshots looked as they should. You're only in the first room... Duke Forever is a big game. Twice as long campaign wise as Black ops. And some cool areas and little easter eggs... well...I still like Duke.
Well, the default convergence like in your first pics isn't that good I agree. I think what you're seeing isnt a convergence problem but a crosstalk problem, as the scene looks normal to me. But Duke has quite a bit of crosstalk when there are dark areas with bright stuff.



Your second convergence setting looks like you tried to pull all that together to get rid of it. however, in doing that it's like pulling everything closer to your eyes. So that turd in your hand would be equivalent to holding it up to one eye in real life.



Best setting I got was to use about a 1/4 depth setting, and converged so that my fists were pretty far "out of screen". As far as my eyes could comfortably focus on them. It's definately better than flat 2d, and crosstalk is minimal.



Other than that, your screenshots looked as they should. You're only in the first room... Duke Forever is a big game. Twice as long campaign wise as Black ops. And some cool areas and little easter eggs... well...I still like Duke.

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#14
Posted 10/23/2011 12:08 AM   
What do you mean about the first room? Of course I'm going to play the game, I'm just trying to see if I could possibly play it well in 3D.

Anyway, if the game is 3D Ready, shouldn't it be ready to go out of the box, not take tons of tweaking to get it to look right? And for a game to get such a high Nvidia rating shouldn't it have low to no ghosting? I have insane amounts. I'll try tweaking the depth a bit and post again.

Edit: Did some more tweaking with convergence and depth and I just can't get it playable. I mean there is just so much ghosting, and if I get rid of most of it close up then it's much worse far off. There is no universal spot that I can get it at. Like I was saying before why can't I get this game to look good that's got a perfect Nvidia 3D rating with all Nvidia hardware yet games that aren't even rated or rated much lower look great?
What do you mean about the first room? Of course I'm going to play the game, I'm just trying to see if I could possibly play it well in 3D.



Anyway, if the game is 3D Ready, shouldn't it be ready to go out of the box, not take tons of tweaking to get it to look right? And for a game to get such a high Nvidia rating shouldn't it have low to no ghosting? I have insane amounts. I'll try tweaking the depth a bit and post again.



Edit: Did some more tweaking with convergence and depth and I just can't get it playable. I mean there is just so much ghosting, and if I get rid of most of it close up then it's much worse far off. There is no universal spot that I can get it at. Like I was saying before why can't I get this game to look good that's got a perfect Nvidia 3D rating with all Nvidia hardware yet games that aren't even rated or rated much lower look great?

#15
Posted 10/23/2011 12:43 AM   
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