Warning.. ALL Asus VG278H monitor owner, please check yours
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I just received mine today and when I turn on the screen it is very DARK. I can barely see anything and I went to the menu to adjust the brightness to 100 and I still get the same problem. Unbelievable, a $800 monitor and I cant even see anything. Sending it in for a refund. I'll see if I can check it out at a local retailer before buying it than taking a chance ordering online again -__-
I just received mine today and when I turn on the screen it is very DARK. I can barely see anything and I went to the menu to adjust the brightness to 100 and I still get the same problem. Unbelievable, a $800 monitor and I cant even see anything. Sending it in for a refund. I'll see if I can check it out at a local retailer before buying it than taking a chance ordering online again -__-
[quote name='chiz' date='26 January 2012 - 07:36 PM' timestamp='1327624586' post='1361101']
If you're bringing it in from the cold, let it run for a bit before declaring it a dud.
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I've never heard of such a thing. However, I did bring in from the cold. Anyway, I will give it an hour to see if it brightens up. If it still occurs back it goes.
Thanks for your reply.
P.s.
I checked amazon reviews of the monitor and apparently people are getting the same issue so it is not only me.
[quote name='chiz' date='26 January 2012 - 07:36 PM' timestamp='1327624586' post='1361101']
If you're bringing it in from the cold, let it run for a bit before declaring it a dud.
I've never heard of such a thing. However, I did bring in from the cold. Anyway, I will give it an hour to see if it brightens up. If it still occurs back it goes.
Thanks for your reply.
P.s.
I checked amazon reviews of the monitor and apparently people are getting the same issue so it is not only me.
I still don't get it, why you guys are aiming the Asus when the Samsung S27A950D is right there for the same price or even cheaper. It also comes with glasses, 3D is also brighter like 3D Vision 2 and lightboost, it's possible to make 3D Vision work, it's has a much much better design and the screen quality and colours reproduction is overkill. Asus has a really bad reputation according to users who bought this monitor, just read their opinions about it in Amazon and Newegg.
What are the advantages Asus have to offer compared to the Samsung S27A950D??? Samsung makes the best LED displays in the World. I can only understand someone choosing the Asus over Samsung if they really don't like Glossy and prefer matte screens, that would be the only resoanable fact.
I still don't get it, why you guys are aiming the Asus when the Samsung S27A950D is right there for the same price or even cheaper. It also comes with glasses, 3D is also brighter like 3D Vision 2 and lightboost, it's possible to make 3D Vision work, it's has a much much better design and the screen quality and colours reproduction is overkill. Asus has a really bad reputation according to users who bought this monitor, just read their opinions about it in Amazon and Newegg.
What are the advantages Asus have to offer compared to the Samsung S27A950D??? Samsung makes the best LED displays in the World. I can only understand someone choosing the Asus over Samsung if they really don't like Glossy and prefer matte screens, that would be the only resoanable fact.
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Your understanding is wrong Grestorn, do some research about Samsung S27A950D, google it.
There are 2 Samsung models S27A950D and LT27A950. The S27A950D is a gaming monitor that provides true 120hz and supports frame sequential mode, SBS, Frame Packing, Under-over 3D modes. This model has DVI-DL, Display port and HDMI. It is TRUE 120hz, get it??? Its easy to make it 3D Vision Ready, I just won't mention how you do the trick here as it's not of Nvidia's interest.
The LT27A950 is different cause its a mix of HDTV and Monitor and it doesn't have true 120hz, but in the other hand it offers a TV turner. It's also 3D, but only good for PS3, Xbox and Tridef, it's not a gaming monitor, it's more like an affordable 27" TV. This model doesn't have DVI-D, only HDMI, so your post is about this model, not the one I've been mentioning which is the S27A950D.
http://wecravegamestoo.com/forums/gadgetry-electronics-discussion/8220-samsung-s27a950d-review.html Read this review.
Samsung made LT27A950 and S27A950D identical in design so this is causing a lot of misunderstanding, people are always thinking that Samsung new gaming monitor doesn't have true 120hz, its amazing. Every forum I go I read that, that's so lame, that's why everyone only thinks that Asus or Acer are the only good choices for a nice 120hz gaming monitor.
I would said the loss is to get the Asus monitor...
Your understanding is wrong Grestorn, do some research about Samsung S27A950D, google it.
There are 2 Samsung models S27A950D and LT27A950. The S27A950D is a gaming monitor that provides true 120hz and supports frame sequential mode, SBS, Frame Packing, Under-over 3D modes. This model has DVI-DL, Display port and HDMI. It is TRUE 120hz, get it??? Its easy to make it 3D Vision Ready, I just won't mention how you do the trick here as it's not of Nvidia's interest.
The LT27A950 is different cause its a mix of HDTV and Monitor and it doesn't have true 120hz, but in the other hand it offers a TV turner. It's also 3D, but only good for PS3, Xbox and Tridef, it's not a gaming monitor, it's more like an affordable 27" TV. This model doesn't have DVI-D, only HDMI, so your post is about this model, not the one I've been mentioning which is the S27A950D.
Samsung made LT27A950 and S27A950D identical in design so this is causing a lot of misunderstanding, people are always thinking that Samsung new gaming monitor doesn't have true 120hz, its amazing. Every forum I go I read that, that's so lame, that's why everyone only thinks that Asus or Acer are the only good choices for a nice 120hz gaming monitor.
I would said the loss is to get the Asus monitor...
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It's simple, if it indeed does support Dual-DVI with 120Hz, it should also be directly supported by 3DVision. But I understand that it isn't, is it? I have to use the glasses that come with the monitor, and therefore I have to use tricks to be not limited by 3DTVPlay (ie. 24Hz or 720p).
The Samsung indeed looks very nice, but I don't want to have any troubles using any monitor with 3DVision. And since it seems that nVidia and Samsung prefer to compete with each other rather than to offer the best solution for the customer, it's just not an option for me. And I think Samsung is to be blamed in this case, because they want to advocate their way of doing "proper" 3D. As you can see with the passive Acer monitors, nVidia doesn't have any problems licencing 3DVision for other technologies, but Samsung seems to want to bully the competition out of the market.
I cancelled my Asus order for now, by the way. But only because I think that the 23" Acer is still good enough for now, and I'm waiting for a real improvement before I cash out some additional money.
It's simple, if it indeed does support Dual-DVI with 120Hz, it should also be directly supported by 3DVision. But I understand that it isn't, is it? I have to use the glasses that come with the monitor, and therefore I have to use tricks to be not limited by 3DTVPlay (ie. 24Hz or 720p).
The Samsung indeed looks very nice, but I don't want to have any troubles using any monitor with 3DVision. And since it seems that nVidia and Samsung prefer to compete with each other rather than to offer the best solution for the customer, it's just not an option for me. And I think Samsung is to be blamed in this case, because they want to advocate their way of doing "proper" 3D. As you can see with the passive Acer monitors, nVidia doesn't have any problems licencing 3DVision for other technologies, but Samsung seems to want to bully the competition out of the market.
I cancelled my Asus order for now, by the way. But only because I think that the 23" Acer is still good enough for now, and I'm waiting for a real improvement before I cash out some additional money.
[quote name='Grestorn' date='27 January 2012 - 12:51 PM' timestamp='1327686680' post='1361443']
It's simple, if it indeed does support Dual-DVI with 120Hz, it should also be directly supported by 3DVision. But I understand that it isn't, is it? I have to use the glasses that come with the monitor, and therefore I have to use tricks to be not limited by 3DTVPlay (ie. 24Hz or 720p).
The Samsung indeed looks very nice, but I don't want to have any troubles using any monitor with 3DVision. And since it seems that nVidia and Samsung prefer to compete with each other rather than to offer the best solution for the customer, it's just not an option for me. And I think Samsung is to be blamed in this case, because they want to advocate their way of doing "proper" 3D. As you can see with the passive Acer monitors, nVidia doesn't have any problems licencing 3DVision for other technologies, but Samsung seems to want to bully the competition out of the market.
I cancelled my Asus order for now, by the way. But only because I think that the 23" Acer is still good enough for now, and I'm waiting for a real improvement before I cash out some additional money.
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The model francomg linked does support true 120Hz input over DL-DVI but doesn't support 3D Vision for the reasons you've already stated, business reasons, bad blood etc with Samsung/Nvidia. Nvidia is actively blocking support of that model as a result, and I don't blame them as Samsung's product is a direct competitor and Samsung clearly decided to go their own way with 3D.
That model does work with 3D Vision however using a loophole, recognized as generic CRT but only with the USB emitter attached (or a USB key spoofing that device ID). Nvidia has again, actively tried to close this loophole after the R285 drivers by eliminating generic CRT support. There's a few large threads on this, particularly upset are the people who were using the feature to support older (legitimate) CRT models like the FW900.
I personally don't think Nvidia should remove existing functionality ever, but its clear to me they've done this to close the loophole on Samsung LCDs as they see it as a threat to their own products. In doing so however, they're upsetting users who have come to rely on this legacy support, which is wrong imo.
Also, as an aside, you should keep an eye out for that updated Acer LightBoost 2. Early reports are its at least listed in EU markets. I'm personally waiting to see what that one is like myself before making a decision.
[quote name='Grestorn' date='27 January 2012 - 12:51 PM' timestamp='1327686680' post='1361443']
It's simple, if it indeed does support Dual-DVI with 120Hz, it should also be directly supported by 3DVision. But I understand that it isn't, is it? I have to use the glasses that come with the monitor, and therefore I have to use tricks to be not limited by 3DTVPlay (ie. 24Hz or 720p).
The Samsung indeed looks very nice, but I don't want to have any troubles using any monitor with 3DVision. And since it seems that nVidia and Samsung prefer to compete with each other rather than to offer the best solution for the customer, it's just not an option for me. And I think Samsung is to be blamed in this case, because they want to advocate their way of doing "proper" 3D. As you can see with the passive Acer monitors, nVidia doesn't have any problems licencing 3DVision for other technologies, but Samsung seems to want to bully the competition out of the market.
I cancelled my Asus order for now, by the way. But only because I think that the 23" Acer is still good enough for now, and I'm waiting for a real improvement before I cash out some additional money.
The model francomg linked does support true 120Hz input over DL-DVI but doesn't support 3D Vision for the reasons you've already stated, business reasons, bad blood etc with Samsung/Nvidia. Nvidia is actively blocking support of that model as a result, and I don't blame them as Samsung's product is a direct competitor and Samsung clearly decided to go their own way with 3D.
That model does work with 3D Vision however using a loophole, recognized as generic CRT but only with the USB emitter attached (or a USB key spoofing that device ID). Nvidia has again, actively tried to close this loophole after the R285 drivers by eliminating generic CRT support. There's a few large threads on this, particularly upset are the people who were using the feature to support older (legitimate) CRT models like the FW900.
I personally don't think Nvidia should remove existing functionality ever, but its clear to me they've done this to close the loophole on Samsung LCDs as they see it as a threat to their own products. In doing so however, they're upsetting users who have come to rely on this legacy support, which is wrong imo.
Also, as an aside, you should keep an eye out for that updated Acer LightBoost 2. Early reports are its at least listed in EU markets. I'm personally waiting to see what that one is like myself before making a decision.
It's not officially supported by Nvidia, cause like you said Samsung and Nvidia wants to compete, as Samsung wants you to use their glasses, not Nvidia's. Samsung is partner witb DDD Tridef, so maybe that's a reason for not beign officially supported by Nvidia, but as you seem like a clever guy that knows so much technical stuff about 3D as I've read a lot of your posts, you should be aware that al you need is a required hardware right?
So, If Samsung supports 120hz, frame sequential and has DVI-D, its perfectly able to run 3D Vision, if you know how to hack it and I believe you're not noobie, right?
My Samsung Plasma TV was made for 3DTV Play cause its HDMI 1.4 standard, but using Rollermod I have access to Checkerboard and Frame sequential mode, cause my TV supports these modes. So, If a Samsung monitor supports FS mode and 1080p true 120hz what is the problem??? Do you get my point?
3D Vision Ready is just a standard, a license and certification that Nvidia gives to its partners, nothing beyond that, what really matters is having the designed hardware. You need to experiment more man.
I have a 3D Vision kit, therefore I can use 3D Vision with this monitor and I don't care not having to use Nvidia glasses, since Samsung's are better and are similar to 3D Vision 2 and lightboost, it's a much brighter 3D according to users that I know that have been using Samsung with 3D Vision. If you get the Asus, you will also not use Nvidia old glasses anymore, cause it comes with 3D Vision 2 glasses, so it's the same deal.
The thing is Samsung S27A950D is far superior to Asus 27" in overall quality and it costs less, that's the big deal.
It doesn't matter that Nvidia ditched Generic CRT support with newer drivers, there are other ways to make Samsung 3DV Ready. I just won't mention here, cause like I said, Nvidia doesn't want to let us know about these tricks. And if they know they might defeat us.
It's not officially supported by Nvidia, cause like you said Samsung and Nvidia wants to compete, as Samsung wants you to use their glasses, not Nvidia's. Samsung is partner witb DDD Tridef, so maybe that's a reason for not beign officially supported by Nvidia, but as you seem like a clever guy that knows so much technical stuff about 3D as I've read a lot of your posts, you should be aware that al you need is a required hardware right?
So, If Samsung supports 120hz, frame sequential and has DVI-D, its perfectly able to run 3D Vision, if you know how to hack it and I believe you're not noobie, right?
My Samsung Plasma TV was made for 3DTV Play cause its HDMI 1.4 standard, but using Rollermod I have access to Checkerboard and Frame sequential mode, cause my TV supports these modes. So, If a Samsung monitor supports FS mode and 1080p true 120hz what is the problem??? Do you get my point?
3D Vision Ready is just a standard, a license and certification that Nvidia gives to its partners, nothing beyond that, what really matters is having the designed hardware. You need to experiment more man.
I have a 3D Vision kit, therefore I can use 3D Vision with this monitor and I don't care not having to use Nvidia glasses, since Samsung's are better and are similar to 3D Vision 2 and lightboost, it's a much brighter 3D according to users that I know that have been using Samsung with 3D Vision. If you get the Asus, you will also not use Nvidia old glasses anymore, cause it comes with 3D Vision 2 glasses, so it's the same deal.
The thing is Samsung S27A950D is far superior to Asus 27" in overall quality and it costs less, that's the big deal.
It doesn't matter that Nvidia ditched Generic CRT support with newer drivers, there are other ways to make Samsung 3DV Ready. I just won't mention here, cause like I said, Nvidia doesn't want to let us know about these tricks. And if they know they might defeat us.
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Right but bottomline is they would prefer you have to jump through these hoops to figure it out unofficially, rather than officially support their competitor's products.
Right but bottomline is they would prefer you have to jump through these hoops to figure it out unofficially, rather than officially support their competitor's products.
I'm pretty tech heavy, I would not buy that monitor if it's not officialy supported by 3D Vision. Who knows what could happen up the road if the drivers change in some way that no longer allows the hack to work. Probably wont happen, but that's an expensive gamble.
Better to go with monitors that are officialy supported by the driver's software. I'm writting this because of how strongly you're trying to promote the other monitor.
It does sound like a very nice monitor, though. I *wish* it was supported.
I'm pretty tech heavy, I would not buy that monitor if it's not officialy supported by 3D Vision. Who knows what could happen up the road if the drivers change in some way that no longer allows the hack to work. Probably wont happen, but that's an expensive gamble.
Better to go with monitors that are officialy supported by the driver's software. I'm writting this because of how strongly you're trying to promote the other monitor.
It does sound like a very nice monitor, though. I *wish* it was supported.
[quote name='Drayth' date='27 January 2012 - 07:58 PM' timestamp='1327690694' post='1361475']
It does sound like a very nice monitor, though. I *wish* it was supported.
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Yes, I can only agree on that. Why can't they just get along? There must be some serious bad blood behind the curtain, that nVidia is actually alienating some customers just to make sure that 3DVision isn't working on those monitors.
[quote name='Drayth' date='27 January 2012 - 07:58 PM' timestamp='1327690694' post='1361475']
It does sound like a very nice monitor, though. I *wish* it was supported.
Yes, I can only agree on that. Why can't they just get along? There must be some serious bad blood behind the curtain, that nVidia is actually alienating some customers just to make sure that 3DVision isn't working on those monitors.
Have the VG278H for about 10 days, default settings. No backlight bleeding, or brightness issues, no problems with 3D, colors are nice. By they way, as I previously mentioned, room temperature is 10-15 Celcious degrees, so if the issues some people are having are heat-related, then I won't be bothered until summer time.
Have the VG278H for about 10 days, default settings. No backlight bleeding, or brightness issues, no problems with 3D, colors are nice. By they way, as I previously mentioned, room temperature is 10-15 Celcious degrees, so if the issues some people are having are heat-related, then I won't be bothered until summer time.
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If you're bringing it in from the cold, let it run for a bit before declaring it a dud.
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I've never heard of such a thing. However, I did bring in from the cold. Anyway, I will give it an hour to see if it brightens up. If it still occurs back it goes.
Thanks for your reply.
P.s.
I checked amazon reviews of the monitor and apparently people are getting the same issue so it is not only me.
http://www.amazon.com/ASUS-VG278H-27-Inch-1080p-Monitor/product-reviews/B0063BM5NK/ref=cm_cr_dp_hist_1?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=0&filterBy=addOneStar
If you're bringing it in from the cold, let it run for a bit before declaring it a dud.
I've never heard of such a thing. However, I did bring in from the cold. Anyway, I will give it an hour to see if it brightens up. If it still occurs back it goes.
Thanks for your reply.
P.s.
I checked amazon reviews of the monitor and apparently people are getting the same issue so it is not only me.
http://www.amazon.com/ASUS-VG278H-27-Inch-1080p-Monitor/product-reviews/B0063BM5NK/ref=cm_cr_dp_hist_1?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=0&filterBy=addOneStar
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What are the advantages Asus have to offer compared to the Samsung S27A950D??? Samsung makes the best LED displays in the World. I can only understand someone choosing the Asus over Samsung if they really don't like Glossy and prefer matte screens, that would be the only resoanable fact.
What are the advantages Asus have to offer compared to the Samsung S27A950D??? Samsung makes the best LED displays in the World. I can only understand someone choosing the Asus over Samsung if they really don't like Glossy and prefer matte screens, that would be the only resoanable fact.
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So you have to use 1080p in 24 Hz or resort to other means like checkerboard or SBS, which reduces the image quality.
Samsung decided not to be compatible to native 3DVision. Their loss.
So you have to use 1080p in 24 Hz or resort to other means like checkerboard or SBS, which reduces the image quality.
Samsung decided not to be compatible to native 3DVision. Their loss.
There are 2 Samsung models S27A950D and LT27A950. The S27A950D is a gaming monitor that provides true 120hz and supports frame sequential mode, SBS, Frame Packing, Under-over 3D modes. This model has DVI-DL, Display port and HDMI. It is TRUE 120hz, get it??? Its easy to make it 3D Vision Ready, I just won't mention how you do the trick here as it's not of Nvidia's interest.
The LT27A950 is different cause its a mix of HDTV and Monitor and it doesn't have true 120hz, but in the other hand it offers a TV turner. It's also 3D, but only good for PS3, Xbox and Tridef, it's not a gaming monitor, it's more like an affordable 27" TV. This model doesn't have DVI-D, only HDMI, so your post is about this model, not the one I've been mentioning which is the S27A950D.
http://wecravegamestoo.com/forums/gadgetry-electronics-discussion/8220-samsung-s27a950d-review.html Read this review.
Samsung made LT27A950 and S27A950D identical in design so this is causing a lot of misunderstanding, people are always thinking that Samsung new gaming monitor doesn't have true 120hz, its amazing. Every forum I go I read that, that's so lame, that's why everyone only thinks that Asus or Acer are the only good choices for a nice 120hz gaming monitor.
I would said the loss is to get the Asus monitor...
There are 2 Samsung models S27A950D and LT27A950. The S27A950D is a gaming monitor that provides true 120hz and supports frame sequential mode, SBS, Frame Packing, Under-over 3D modes. This model has DVI-DL, Display port and HDMI. It is TRUE 120hz, get it??? Its easy to make it 3D Vision Ready, I just won't mention how you do the trick here as it's not of Nvidia's interest.
The LT27A950 is different cause its a mix of HDTV and Monitor and it doesn't have true 120hz, but in the other hand it offers a TV turner. It's also 3D, but only good for PS3, Xbox and Tridef, it's not a gaming monitor, it's more like an affordable 27" TV. This model doesn't have DVI-D, only HDMI, so your post is about this model, not the one I've been mentioning which is the S27A950D.
http://wecravegamestoo.com/forums/gadgetry-electronics-discussion/8220-samsung-s27a950d-review.html Read this review.
Samsung made LT27A950 and S27A950D identical in design so this is causing a lot of misunderstanding, people are always thinking that Samsung new gaming monitor doesn't have true 120hz, its amazing. Every forum I go I read that, that's so lame, that's why everyone only thinks that Asus or Acer are the only good choices for a nice 120hz gaming monitor.
I would said the loss is to get the Asus monitor...
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The Samsung indeed looks very nice, but I don't want to have any troubles using any monitor with 3DVision. And since it seems that nVidia and Samsung prefer to compete with each other rather than to offer the best solution for the customer, it's just not an option for me. And I think Samsung is to be blamed in this case, because they want to advocate their way of doing "proper" 3D. As you can see with the passive Acer monitors, nVidia doesn't have any problems licencing 3DVision for other technologies, but Samsung seems to want to bully the competition out of the market.
I cancelled my Asus order for now, by the way. But only because I think that the 23" Acer is still good enough for now, and I'm waiting for a real improvement before I cash out some additional money.
The Samsung indeed looks very nice, but I don't want to have any troubles using any monitor with 3DVision. And since it seems that nVidia and Samsung prefer to compete with each other rather than to offer the best solution for the customer, it's just not an option for me. And I think Samsung is to be blamed in this case, because they want to advocate their way of doing "proper" 3D. As you can see with the passive Acer monitors, nVidia doesn't have any problems licencing 3DVision for other technologies, but Samsung seems to want to bully the competition out of the market.
I cancelled my Asus order for now, by the way. But only because I think that the 23" Acer is still good enough for now, and I'm waiting for a real improvement before I cash out some additional money.
It's simple, if it indeed does support Dual-DVI with 120Hz, it should also be directly supported by 3DVision. But I understand that it isn't, is it? I have to use the glasses that come with the monitor, and therefore I have to use tricks to be not limited by 3DTVPlay (ie. 24Hz or 720p).
The Samsung indeed looks very nice, but I don't want to have any troubles using any monitor with 3DVision. And since it seems that nVidia and Samsung prefer to compete with each other rather than to offer the best solution for the customer, it's just not an option for me. And I think Samsung is to be blamed in this case, because they want to advocate their way of doing "proper" 3D. As you can see with the passive Acer monitors, nVidia doesn't have any problems licencing 3DVision for other technologies, but Samsung seems to want to bully the competition out of the market.
I cancelled my Asus order for now, by the way. But only because I think that the 23" Acer is still good enough for now, and I'm waiting for a real improvement before I cash out some additional money.
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The model francomg linked does support true 120Hz input over DL-DVI but doesn't support 3D Vision for the reasons you've already stated, business reasons, bad blood etc with Samsung/Nvidia. Nvidia is actively blocking support of that model as a result, and I don't blame them as Samsung's product is a direct competitor and Samsung clearly decided to go their own way with 3D.
That model does work with 3D Vision however using a loophole, recognized as generic CRT but only with the USB emitter attached (or a USB key spoofing that device ID). Nvidia has again, actively tried to close this loophole after the R285 drivers by eliminating generic CRT support. There's a few large threads on this, particularly upset are the people who were using the feature to support older (legitimate) CRT models like the FW900.
I personally don't think Nvidia should remove existing functionality ever, but its clear to me they've done this to close the loophole on Samsung LCDs as they see it as a threat to their own products. In doing so however, they're upsetting users who have come to rely on this legacy support, which is wrong imo.
Also, as an aside, you should keep an eye out for that updated Acer LightBoost 2. Early reports are its at least listed in EU markets. I'm personally waiting to see what that one is like myself before making a decision.
It's simple, if it indeed does support Dual-DVI with 120Hz, it should also be directly supported by 3DVision. But I understand that it isn't, is it? I have to use the glasses that come with the monitor, and therefore I have to use tricks to be not limited by 3DTVPlay (ie. 24Hz or 720p).
The Samsung indeed looks very nice, but I don't want to have any troubles using any monitor with 3DVision. And since it seems that nVidia and Samsung prefer to compete with each other rather than to offer the best solution for the customer, it's just not an option for me. And I think Samsung is to be blamed in this case, because they want to advocate their way of doing "proper" 3D. As you can see with the passive Acer monitors, nVidia doesn't have any problems licencing 3DVision for other technologies, but Samsung seems to want to bully the competition out of the market.
I cancelled my Asus order for now, by the way. But only because I think that the 23" Acer is still good enough for now, and I'm waiting for a real improvement before I cash out some additional money.
The model francomg linked does support true 120Hz input over DL-DVI but doesn't support 3D Vision for the reasons you've already stated, business reasons, bad blood etc with Samsung/Nvidia. Nvidia is actively blocking support of that model as a result, and I don't blame them as Samsung's product is a direct competitor and Samsung clearly decided to go their own way with 3D.
That model does work with 3D Vision however using a loophole, recognized as generic CRT but only with the USB emitter attached (or a USB key spoofing that device ID). Nvidia has again, actively tried to close this loophole after the R285 drivers by eliminating generic CRT support. There's a few large threads on this, particularly upset are the people who were using the feature to support older (legitimate) CRT models like the FW900.
I personally don't think Nvidia should remove existing functionality ever, but its clear to me they've done this to close the loophole on Samsung LCDs as they see it as a threat to their own products. In doing so however, they're upsetting users who have come to rely on this legacy support, which is wrong imo.
Also, as an aside, you should keep an eye out for that updated Acer LightBoost 2. Early reports are its at least listed in EU markets. I'm personally waiting to see what that one is like myself before making a decision.
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So, If Samsung supports 120hz, frame sequential and has DVI-D, its perfectly able to run 3D Vision, if you know how to hack it and I believe you're not noobie, right?
My Samsung Plasma TV was made for 3DTV Play cause its HDMI 1.4 standard, but using Rollermod I have access to Checkerboard and Frame sequential mode, cause my TV supports these modes. So, If a Samsung monitor supports FS mode and 1080p true 120hz what is the problem??? Do you get my point?
3D Vision Ready is just a standard, a license and certification that Nvidia gives to its partners, nothing beyond that, what really matters is having the designed hardware. You need to experiment more man.
I have a 3D Vision kit, therefore I can use 3D Vision with this monitor and I don't care not having to use Nvidia glasses, since Samsung's are better and are similar to 3D Vision 2 and lightboost, it's a much brighter 3D according to users that I know that have been using Samsung with 3D Vision. If you get the Asus, you will also not use Nvidia old glasses anymore, cause it comes with 3D Vision 2 glasses, so it's the same deal.
The thing is Samsung S27A950D is far superior to Asus 27" in overall quality and it costs less, that's the big deal.
It doesn't matter that Nvidia ditched Generic CRT support with newer drivers, there are other ways to make Samsung 3DV Ready. I just won't mention here, cause like I said, Nvidia doesn't want to let us know about these tricks. And if they know they might defeat us.
So, If Samsung supports 120hz, frame sequential and has DVI-D, its perfectly able to run 3D Vision, if you know how to hack it and I believe you're not noobie, right?
My Samsung Plasma TV was made for 3DTV Play cause its HDMI 1.4 standard, but using Rollermod I have access to Checkerboard and Frame sequential mode, cause my TV supports these modes. So, If a Samsung monitor supports FS mode and 1080p true 120hz what is the problem??? Do you get my point?
3D Vision Ready is just a standard, a license and certification that Nvidia gives to its partners, nothing beyond that, what really matters is having the designed hardware. You need to experiment more man.
I have a 3D Vision kit, therefore I can use 3D Vision with this monitor and I don't care not having to use Nvidia glasses, since Samsung's are better and are similar to 3D Vision 2 and lightboost, it's a much brighter 3D according to users that I know that have been using Samsung with 3D Vision. If you get the Asus, you will also not use Nvidia old glasses anymore, cause it comes with 3D Vision 2 glasses, so it's the same deal.
The thing is Samsung S27A950D is far superior to Asus 27" in overall quality and it costs less, that's the big deal.
It doesn't matter that Nvidia ditched Generic CRT support with newer drivers, there are other ways to make Samsung 3DV Ready. I just won't mention here, cause like I said, Nvidia doesn't want to let us know about these tricks. And if they know they might defeat us.
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My 3D Vision Games List Ratings
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I was going to ask you to erase your last post, LOL. I bought this monitor and I'll use it with 3D Vision for sure. Thanks for that..
I was going to ask you to erase your last post, LOL. I bought this monitor and I'll use it with 3D Vision for sure. Thanks for that..
Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bits - Core i7 2600K @ 4.5ghz - Asus Maximus IV Extreme Z68 - Geforce EVGA GTX 690 - 8GB Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1600 9-9-9-24 (2T) - Thermaltake Armor+ - SSD Intel 510 Series Sata3 256GB - HD WD Caviar Black Sata3 64mb 2TB - HD WD Caviar Black 1TB Sata3 64mb - Bose Sound System - LG H20L GGW Blu Ray/DVD/CD RW - LG GH20 DVD RAM - PSU Thermaltake Toughpower 1000W - Samsung S27A950D 3D Vision Ready + 3D HDTV SAMSUNG PL63C7000 3DTVPLAY + ROLLERMOD CHECKERBOARD
Better to go with monitors that are officialy supported by the driver's software. I'm writting this because of how strongly you're trying to promote the other monitor.
It does sound like a very nice monitor, though. I *wish* it was supported.
Better to go with monitors that are officialy supported by the driver's software. I'm writting this because of how strongly you're trying to promote the other monitor.
It does sound like a very nice monitor, though. I *wish* it was supported.
It does sound like a very nice monitor, though. I *wish* it was supported.
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Yes, I can only agree on that. Why can't they just get along? There must be some serious bad blood behind the curtain, that nVidia is actually alienating some customers just to make sure that 3DVision isn't working on those monitors.
It does sound like a very nice monitor, though. I *wish* it was supported.
Yes, I can only agree on that. Why can't they just get along? There must be some serious bad blood behind the curtain, that nVidia is actually alienating some customers just to make sure that 3DVision isn't working on those monitors.
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