I have just recently discovered "3D Vision" from Nvidi, and I have decided that I desire to own one of these machines!
That being said I have no idea what exactly I should be looking for Specs wise to build the most cost efficient machine.
I've heard multiple different things:
Such as SLI being required for decent frame, GTX 480 being enough, GTX 5 Series being required, etc etc.
I was hoping you guys could help me figure out a build that would meet the following requirements:
Run WoW 3d 50-60 FPS
Run the major single player RPGs in 3D with 50-60 Frame Rate
Most importantly: Run future MMO's of the next year with a 50-60 frame rate. (Talking about games such as: Guild Wars 2, RIFT, Star Wars: The Old Republic, etc)
I was hoping to get this with under 1500, with a possible few hundred dollar upgrade if needed in a year to keep those games @ 50-60 FPS(Such as the addition of another graphics card)
Is this possible? Do you guys have any recommendations? I'm flexible on the price, but 2200ish would be hitting the high mark for me.
I have just recently discovered "3D Vision" from Nvidi, and I have decided that I desire to own one of these machines!
That being said I have no idea what exactly I should be looking for Specs wise to build the most cost efficient machine.
I've heard multiple different things:
Such as SLI being required for decent frame, GTX 480 being enough, GTX 5 Series being required, etc etc.
I was hoping you guys could help me figure out a build that would meet the following requirements:
Run WoW 3d 50-60 FPS
Run the major single player RPGs in 3D with 50-60 Frame Rate
Most importantly: Run future MMO's of the next year with a 50-60 frame rate. (Talking about games such as: Guild Wars 2, RIFT, Star Wars: The Old Republic, etc)
I was hoping to get this with under 1500, with a possible few hundred dollar upgrade if needed in a year to keep those games @ 50-60 FPS(Such as the addition of another graphics card)
Is this possible? Do you guys have any recommendations? I'm flexible on the price, but 2200ish would be hitting the high mark for me.
$1500 is enough money, if you build it yourself and minimize spending on non-essentials. But it does depend on the display.
First, look at 3D displays. Build the computer according to the display and glasses. Not the other way around.
In my opinion, 3D gaming is not so great for competitive gameplay. It can be distracting (because it's so beautiful) and harder to aim. With that said, 2D gaming has become flat and boring to me now. The glasses help to block out the outside world and that increases the feeling of really being in the game.
If you have an old gaming computer with 3D compatible nvidia card, play 3D games on it with a new 3D display + 3D vision glasses, and then you can judge how much additional performance is needed.
$1500 is enough money, if you build it yourself and minimize spending on non-essentials. But it does depend on the display.
First, look at 3D displays. Build the computer according to the display and glasses. Not the other way around.
In my opinion, 3D gaming is not so great for competitive gameplay. It can be distracting (because it's so beautiful) and harder to aim. With that said, 2D gaming has become flat and boring to me now. The glasses help to block out the outside world and that increases the feeling of really being in the game.
If you have an old gaming computer with 3D compatible nvidia card, play 3D games on it with a new 3D display + 3D vision glasses, and then you can judge how much additional performance is needed.
Errrr, why would you need 50fps in WoW or single player RPGs? Fast framerates are needed when you need to aim quickly, but not in games like these. (Well, maybe Fallout 3. If you swear off the VATS.) Smoother looks nicer, sure, but stereoscopic 3D looks FAR nicer when its working well.
I've got a 480 and an i7 X980. Dragon Age: Origins playing at 1920x1080 reports about 30fps or higher for me. Fallout 3 with lots of mods seems to stay over 50 most of the time though it did dip down into the teens here and there. Both are being played with all other settings maxxed out. Both feel quite smooth to me.
That framerate number is a bit tricky, too. I'm pretty certain a frame is showing an image to both eyes. That means that, when FRAPS says 30fps, it means 30 pictures shown to the left eye and 30 pictures shown to the right eye. So it's actually 60 images per second.
Errrr, why would you need 50fps in WoW or single player RPGs? Fast framerates are needed when you need to aim quickly, but not in games like these. (Well, maybe Fallout 3. If you swear off the VATS.) Smoother looks nicer, sure, but stereoscopic 3D looks FAR nicer when its working well.
I've got a 480 and an i7 X980. Dragon Age: Origins playing at 1920x1080 reports about 30fps or higher for me. Fallout 3 with lots of mods seems to stay over 50 most of the time though it did dip down into the teens here and there. Both are being played with all other settings maxxed out. Both feel quite smooth to me.
That framerate number is a bit tricky, too. I'm pretty certain a frame is showing an image to both eyes. That means that, when FRAPS says 30fps, it means 30 pictures shown to the left eye and 30 pictures shown to the right eye. So it's actually 60 images per second.
What's required depends on your personal preferences.
You can run WOW on a 260 in 3D it isn't ideal, and you have to turn down the draw distance but you can do it.
If you desperately require ultra settings with 8xAA, you're looking at high end 400 or 500 series cards. 3d requires twice the filtrate and twice the geometry to be drawn.
Price out the monitor + 3d vision kit, then buy the most powerful single video card inside your budget.
I have two SLI machines, and honestly if a single card that's as fast as the SLI configuration you're considering exists, buy it.
What's required depends on your personal preferences.
You can run WOW on a 260 in 3D it isn't ideal, and you have to turn down the draw distance but you can do it.
If you desperately require ultra settings with 8xAA, you're looking at high end 400 or 500 series cards. 3d requires twice the filtrate and twice the geometry to be drawn.
Price out the monitor + 3d vision kit, then buy the most powerful single video card inside your budget.
I have two SLI machines, and honestly if a single card that's as fast as the SLI configuration you're considering exists, buy it.
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Errrr, why would you need 50fps in WoW or single player RPGs? Fast framerates are needed when you need to aim quickly, but not in games like these. (Well, maybe Fallout 3. If you swear off the VATS.) Smoother looks nicer, sure, but stereoscopic 3D looks FAR nicer when its working well.
I've got a 480 and an i7 X980. Dragon Age: Origins playing at 1920x1080 reports about 30fps or higher for me. Fallout 3 with lots of mods seems to stay over 50 most of the time though it did dip down into the teens here and there. Both are being played with all other settings maxxed out. Both feel quite smooth to me.
That framerate number is a bit tricky, too. I'm pretty certain a frame is showing an image to both eyes. That means that, when FRAPS says 30fps, it means 30 pictures shown to the left eye and 30 pictures shown to the right eye. So it's actually 60 images per second.
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No, 30 frames per second is 30 frames per second, 3d or not. You want 60 for the best gameplay in 3d, which is as fast as the glasses can display anyway.
To the OP - you want a new rig for 3d, and don't wanna spend too much? Get an i7-920 or 930 and 2 1 gig GTX 460s, and overclock the piss out of everything. Two overclocked 460s are quite a lot faster than a GTX 580, while costing a couple hundred bucks less. You can overclock any i7 to 4 ghz with decent air cooling.
[quote name='Zloth' date='04 December 2010 - 02:00 AM' timestamp='1291428015' post='1155475']
Errrr, why would you need 50fps in WoW or single player RPGs? Fast framerates are needed when you need to aim quickly, but not in games like these. (Well, maybe Fallout 3. If you swear off the VATS.) Smoother looks nicer, sure, but stereoscopic 3D looks FAR nicer when its working well.
I've got a 480 and an i7 X980. Dragon Age: Origins playing at 1920x1080 reports about 30fps or higher for me. Fallout 3 with lots of mods seems to stay over 50 most of the time though it did dip down into the teens here and there. Both are being played with all other settings maxxed out. Both feel quite smooth to me.
That framerate number is a bit tricky, too. I'm pretty certain a frame is showing an image to both eyes. That means that, when FRAPS says 30fps, it means 30 pictures shown to the left eye and 30 pictures shown to the right eye. So it's actually 60 images per second.
No, 30 frames per second is 30 frames per second, 3d or not. You want 60 for the best gameplay in 3d, which is as fast as the glasses can display anyway.
To the OP - you want a new rig for 3d, and don't wanna spend too much? Get an i7-920 or 930 and 2 1 gig GTX 460s, and overclock the piss out of everything. Two overclocked 460s are quite a lot faster than a GTX 580, while costing a couple hundred bucks less. You can overclock any i7 to 4 ghz with decent air cooling.
Heh, I run most things just fine on my single 285. Would SLI if I could though definately. But for most games it works great! Just finished a 3 hour session of Assasin Creed followed by some Madden 08, which the football players look like little plastic alive dudes LOL.
Heh, I run most things just fine on my single 285. Would SLI if I could though definately. But for most games it works great! Just finished a 3 hour session of Assasin Creed followed by some Madden 08, which the football players look like little plastic alive dudes LOL.
AsRock X58 Extreme6 mobo
Intel Core-i7 950 @ 4ghz
12gb Corsair Dominator DDR3 1600
ASUS DirectCU II GTX 780 3gb
Corsair TX 950w PSU
NZXT Phantom Red/Black Case
3d Vision 1 w/ Samsung 2233rz Monitor
3d Vision 2 w/ ASUS VG278HE Monitor
That being said I have no idea what exactly I should be looking for Specs wise to build the most cost efficient machine.
I've heard multiple different things:
Such as SLI being required for decent frame, GTX 480 being enough, GTX 5 Series being required, etc etc.
I was hoping you guys could help me figure out a build that would meet the following requirements:
Run WoW 3d 50-60 FPS
Run the major single player RPGs in 3D with 50-60 Frame Rate
Most importantly: Run future MMO's of the next year with a 50-60 frame rate. (Talking about games such as: Guild Wars 2, RIFT, Star Wars: The Old Republic, etc)
I was hoping to get this with under 1500, with a possible few hundred dollar upgrade if needed in a year to keep those games @ 50-60 FPS(Such as the addition of another graphics card)
Is this possible? Do you guys have any recommendations? I'm flexible on the price, but 2200ish would be hitting the high mark for me.
Thanks in advance!
That being said I have no idea what exactly I should be looking for Specs wise to build the most cost efficient machine.
I've heard multiple different things:
Such as SLI being required for decent frame, GTX 480 being enough, GTX 5 Series being required, etc etc.
I was hoping you guys could help me figure out a build that would meet the following requirements:
Run WoW 3d 50-60 FPS
Run the major single player RPGs in 3D with 50-60 Frame Rate
Most importantly: Run future MMO's of the next year with a 50-60 frame rate. (Talking about games such as: Guild Wars 2, RIFT, Star Wars: The Old Republic, etc)
I was hoping to get this with under 1500, with a possible few hundred dollar upgrade if needed in a year to keep those games @ 50-60 FPS(Such as the addition of another graphics card)
Is this possible? Do you guys have any recommendations? I'm flexible on the price, but 2200ish would be hitting the high mark for me.
Thanks in advance!
First, look at 3D displays. Build the computer according to the display and glasses. Not the other way around.
In my opinion, 3D gaming is not so great for competitive gameplay. It can be distracting (because it's so beautiful) and harder to aim. With that said, 2D gaming has become flat and boring to me now. The glasses help to block out the outside world and that increases the feeling of really being in the game.
If you have an old gaming computer with 3D compatible nvidia card, play 3D games on it with a new 3D display + 3D vision glasses, and then you can judge how much additional performance is needed.
First, look at 3D displays. Build the computer according to the display and glasses. Not the other way around.
In my opinion, 3D gaming is not so great for competitive gameplay. It can be distracting (because it's so beautiful) and harder to aim. With that said, 2D gaming has become flat and boring to me now. The glasses help to block out the outside world and that increases the feeling of really being in the game.
If you have an old gaming computer with 3D compatible nvidia card, play 3D games on it with a new 3D display + 3D vision glasses, and then you can judge how much additional performance is needed.
Thief 1/2/gold in 3D
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http://photos.3dvisionlive.com/Partol/album/509eb580a3e067153c000020/
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I've got a 480 and an i7 X980. Dragon Age: Origins playing at 1920x1080 reports about 30fps or higher for me. Fallout 3 with lots of mods seems to stay over 50 most of the time though it did dip down into the teens here and there. Both are being played with all other settings maxxed out. Both feel quite smooth to me.
That framerate number is a bit tricky, too. I'm pretty certain a frame is showing an image to both eyes. That means that, when FRAPS says 30fps, it means 30 pictures shown to the left eye and 30 pictures shown to the right eye. So it's actually 60 images per second.
I've got a 480 and an i7 X980. Dragon Age: Origins playing at 1920x1080 reports about 30fps or higher for me. Fallout 3 with lots of mods seems to stay over 50 most of the time though it did dip down into the teens here and there. Both are being played with all other settings maxxed out. Both feel quite smooth to me.
That framerate number is a bit tricky, too. I'm pretty certain a frame is showing an image to both eyes. That means that, when FRAPS says 30fps, it means 30 pictures shown to the left eye and 30 pictures shown to the right eye. So it's actually 60 images per second.
You can run WOW on a 260 in 3D it isn't ideal, and you have to turn down the draw distance but you can do it.
If you desperately require ultra settings with 8xAA, you're looking at high end 400 or 500 series cards. 3d requires twice the filtrate and twice the geometry to be drawn.
Price out the monitor + 3d vision kit, then buy the most powerful single video card inside your budget.
I have two SLI machines, and honestly if a single card that's as fast as the SLI configuration you're considering exists, buy it.
You can run WOW on a 260 in 3D it isn't ideal, and you have to turn down the draw distance but you can do it.
If you desperately require ultra settings with 8xAA, you're looking at high end 400 or 500 series cards. 3d requires twice the filtrate and twice the geometry to be drawn.
Price out the monitor + 3d vision kit, then buy the most powerful single video card inside your budget.
I have two SLI machines, and honestly if a single card that's as fast as the SLI configuration you're considering exists, buy it.
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Errrr, why would you need 50fps in WoW or single player RPGs? Fast framerates are needed when you need to aim quickly, but not in games like these. (Well, maybe Fallout 3. If you swear off the VATS.) Smoother looks nicer, sure, but stereoscopic 3D looks FAR nicer when its working well.
I've got a 480 and an i7 X980. Dragon Age: Origins playing at 1920x1080 reports about 30fps or higher for me. Fallout 3 with lots of mods seems to stay over 50 most of the time though it did dip down into the teens here and there. Both are being played with all other settings maxxed out. Both feel quite smooth to me.
That framerate number is a bit tricky, too. I'm pretty certain a frame is showing an image to both eyes. That means that, when FRAPS says 30fps, it means 30 pictures shown to the left eye and 30 pictures shown to the right eye. So it's actually 60 images per second.
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No, 30 frames per second is 30 frames per second, 3d or not. You want 60 for the best gameplay in 3d, which is as fast as the glasses can display anyway.
To the OP - you want a new rig for 3d, and don't wanna spend too much? Get an i7-920 or 930 and 2 1 gig GTX 460s, and overclock the piss out of everything. Two overclocked 460s are quite a lot faster than a GTX 580, while costing a couple hundred bucks less. You can overclock any i7 to 4 ghz with decent air cooling.
Errrr, why would you need 50fps in WoW or single player RPGs? Fast framerates are needed when you need to aim quickly, but not in games like these. (Well, maybe Fallout 3. If you swear off the VATS.) Smoother looks nicer, sure, but stereoscopic 3D looks FAR nicer when its working well.
I've got a 480 and an i7 X980. Dragon Age: Origins playing at 1920x1080 reports about 30fps or higher for me. Fallout 3 with lots of mods seems to stay over 50 most of the time though it did dip down into the teens here and there. Both are being played with all other settings maxxed out. Both feel quite smooth to me.
That framerate number is a bit tricky, too. I'm pretty certain a frame is showing an image to both eyes. That means that, when FRAPS says 30fps, it means 30 pictures shown to the left eye and 30 pictures shown to the right eye. So it's actually 60 images per second.
No, 30 frames per second is 30 frames per second, 3d or not. You want 60 for the best gameplay in 3d, which is as fast as the glasses can display anyway.
To the OP - you want a new rig for 3d, and don't wanna spend too much? Get an i7-920 or 930 and 2 1 gig GTX 460s, and overclock the piss out of everything. Two overclocked 460s are quite a lot faster than a GTX 580, while costing a couple hundred bucks less. You can overclock any i7 to 4 ghz with decent air cooling.
AsRock X58 Extreme6 mobo
Intel Core-i7 950 @ 4ghz
12gb Corsair Dominator DDR3 1600
ASUS DirectCU II GTX 780 3gb
Corsair TX 950w PSU
NZXT Phantom Red/Black Case
3d Vision 1 w/ Samsung 2233rz Monitor
3d Vision 2 w/ ASUS VG278HE Monitor