I will try that!! and get back to you, no idea that was possible as I thought 3D support on Youtube was dead gone. Thank you. Also if you are interested in Vulken3d project blue beam, let me know, I'm gonna push it forward. Thank you again Bo3b, you are the most helpful community modder o7
[quote="bo3b"][quote="UnityBeing"]Requested a refund from Fraps, I hope I get it. Sigh this is pathetic really, this is strange that Shadowplay doesn't record in 2D for 3D vision - what is going on here? How many of us are there, are we really that small as a community?[/quote]
To answer this question, yep, we are that small a community. There are only about 100 active people on this board at a time, although the actual people vary. VR is killing off the 3D Vision old timers, but also bringing in new people that have discovered stereo gaming. That's why you see new names all the time. My best guess is total 3D Vision gamers is around 1.5 to 2 Million active users. Less than current total for VR headsets.
For doing video, I don't understand why you don't just use ShadowPlay. It will record the video in SBS, you upload it to YouTube, but tag it as a 3D video. Default playback on YouTube is still going to be 2D. [/quote]
I will try that!! and get back to you, no idea that was possible as I thought 3D support on Youtube was dead gone. Thank you. Also if you are interested in Vulken3d project blue beam, let me know, I'm gonna push it forward. Thank you again Bo3b, you are the most helpful community modder o7
bo3b said:
UnityBeing said:Requested a refund from Fraps, I hope I get it. Sigh this is pathetic really, this is strange that Shadowplay doesn't record in 2D for 3D vision - what is going on here? How many of us are there, are we really that small as a community?
To answer this question, yep, we are that small a community. There are only about 100 active people on this board at a time, although the actual people vary. VR is killing off the 3D Vision old timers, but also bringing in new people that have discovered stereo gaming. That's why you see new names all the time. My best guess is total 3D Vision gamers is around 1.5 to 2 Million active users. Less than current total for VR headsets.
For doing video, I don't understand why you don't just use ShadowPlay. It will record the video in SBS, you upload it to YouTube, but tag it as a 3D video. Default playback on YouTube is still going to be 2D.
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[quote="B03b] For doing video, I don't understand why you don't just use ShadowPlay. It will record the video in SBS, you upload it to YouTube, but tag it as a 3D video. Default playback on YouTube is still going to be 2D. [/quote]
Except that's only the case on PC
I have tried this, and yes although it works if you specifically set the 3d flag on upload (although there is a warning 3d tag is soon to be depreciated, as well)
The issue is most people I know use their phones to look at youtube these days, and in this case it displays as that horrible green color phone mode with no option to change it. You cant see the 2d version of the video on phones.
B03b said: For doing video, I don't understand why you don't just use ShadowPlay. It will record the video in SBS, you upload it to YouTube, but tag it as a 3D video. Default playback on YouTube is still going to be 2D.
Except that's only the case on PC
I have tried this, and yes although it works if you specifically set the 3d flag on upload (although there is a warning 3d tag is soon to be depreciated, as well)
The issue is most people I know use their phones to look at youtube these days, and in this case it displays as that horrible green color phone mode with no option to change it. You cant see the 2d version of the video on phones.
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It's not soon to be gone, it's gone.
Worse yet, I couldn't get the FFMPEG from their [url=https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/7278886?hl=en]help page[/url] to work for me. Most of those x264 options don't parse for my FFMPEG. I had to cut it down to just the frame-packing=3. That made a mess when the 3D played and even the 2D only showed about half of the image.
Worse yet, I couldn't get the FFMPEG from their help page to work for me. Most of those x264 options don't parse for my FFMPEG. I had to cut it down to just the frame-packing=3. That made a mess when the 3D played and even the 2D only showed about half of the image.
The very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common. Instead of altering their views to fit the facts, they alter the facts to fit their views ... which can be very uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that needs altering.
Well that sounds like Google. Kill off features, apps, for the latest shiny object. Never support anything older than 5 years, and by all means, force everyone to upgrade whether they want it or not, no exceptions. Welcome to SoftwareAsAService.
I agree with Necropants that phone watching is a primary viewer for anything, and it does not support even 2D there. Completely, utterly, stupid. But hey, you can always hit the Cardboard icon and see it in SBS. Maybe this is better because at least it's real 3D, and cardboard is cheap as hell.
If you really want straight 2D, it seems like your only option is to post process the video. ShadowPlay is great for quality and low resource consumption while playing, but only generates 3D now.
There is a free video editor from Microsoft, and assorted free trials from others. To make the videos in the ShaderHackers school I used one of those. Setting it up to transcode to only one half should be doable.
Well that sounds like Google. Kill off features, apps, for the latest shiny object. Never support anything older than 5 years, and by all means, force everyone to upgrade whether they want it or not, no exceptions. Welcome to SoftwareAsAService.
I agree with Necropants that phone watching is a primary viewer for anything, and it does not support even 2D there. Completely, utterly, stupid. But hey, you can always hit the Cardboard icon and see it in SBS. Maybe this is better because at least it's real 3D, and cardboard is cheap as hell.
If you really want straight 2D, it seems like your only option is to post process the video. ShadowPlay is great for quality and low resource consumption while playing, but only generates 3D now.
There is a free video editor from Microsoft, and assorted free trials from others. To make the videos in the ShaderHackers school I used one of those. Setting it up to transcode to only one half should be doable.
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I am really reluctant to move away from shadowplay due to the need for flashback recording, so I have been looking at doing something along the lines you suggested. Just haven't found anything straightforward to to use. Would appreciate any suggestions. I guess I'll try the microsoft editor.
Here's an example of a short video I have made, that does work (on PC) a little while I go, when I edit it I see they have now depreciated the 3d flag. Thanks google.
[url]https://youtu.be/QSWyfqH45vI[/url]
Don't see anyway to not make it display in Anaglyph mode on phones.
I am really reluctant to move away from shadowplay due to the need for flashback recording, so I have been looking at doing something along the lines you suggested. Just haven't found anything straightforward to to use. Would appreciate any suggestions. I guess I'll try the microsoft editor.
Here's an example of a short video I have made, that does work (on PC) a little while I go, when I edit it I see they have now depreciated the 3d flag. Thanks google.
Don't see anyway to not make it display in Anaglyph mode on phones.
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[quote="Necropants"]
Here's an example of a short video I have made, that does work (on PC) a little while I go, when I edit it I see they have now depreciated the 3d flag. Thanks google.
[url]https://www.youtube.com/edit?o=U&video_id=QSWyfqH45vI[/url]
[/quote]
That's a general edit link - it points to all my videos for me. That, or you done stole all my vids! ;)
Wait a second, the video I uploaded before that looked completely mangled is now working fine.
https://youtu.be/K5tCLQKey5Q
Maybe it just needs more time to sit? I think it did lose a lot of resolution.
FFMPEG command used:
"D:\Program Files\FFMpeg\bin\ffmpeg" -i %1 -codec: copy -metadata:s:v:0 stereo_mode=1 output.mkv
Necropants said:
Here's an example of a short video I have made, that does work (on PC) a little while I go, when I edit it I see they have now depreciated the 3d flag. Thanks google.
The very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common. Instead of altering their views to fit the facts, they alter the facts to fit their views ... which can be very uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that needs altering.
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[quote="Necropants"][quote="bo3b"]Unless something has changed since the last time I tried this, you can get ShadowPlay to record 2D while you play in 3D.
The trick was to have 3D disabled in the control panel, and only then enable ShadowPlay. Once ShadowPlay was enabled, I could enable 3D and it would still record 2D.
(Been awhile, and I can't quite recall if you need other details like allowing desktop recording mode, or starting the recording before enabling 3D. Experiment around, I'm nearly certain this is possible.)[/quote]
Yes this definitely doesn't work. Maybe it used too. I have been looking for a solution to this for ages. I really like shadowplay, cant see why there is not a toggle or something. I am going to play around with OBS I think.[/quote]
It does work but there's a step missing - rebooting. For me at least, it seems to record in the mode I'm in when my PC reboots. Maybe there's a service that you can just restart instead of your whole PC but nothing jumps out at me when I look at what's running on my own PC.
I presume this is because it can record the desktop and applications starting up. It has to deal with the mode changing somehow, whether playing a game or not. It can't just switch recording formats right in the middle of a video - the formats don't support it. It could save off the first format then start a second video in the new format but what if the player has the system set to track the last half hour's worth of video and he's been switching back and forth between 2D and 3D? The system might have to save off a dozen videos as soon as the play requests the recording starts, which is likely to make a performance hit. So they went for the option where the video just keeps going on in the same mode all the time, regardless of the player changing modes.
I'm not so sure the 3D that gets recorded when playing in 2D is really 3D or if it's just the same frame on both sides.
bo3b said:Unless something has changed since the last time I tried this, you can get ShadowPlay to record 2D while you play in 3D.
The trick was to have 3D disabled in the control panel, and only then enable ShadowPlay. Once ShadowPlay was enabled, I could enable 3D and it would still record 2D.
(Been awhile, and I can't quite recall if you need other details like allowing desktop recording mode, or starting the recording before enabling 3D. Experiment around, I'm nearly certain this is possible.)
Yes this definitely doesn't work. Maybe it used too. I have been looking for a solution to this for ages. I really like shadowplay, cant see why there is not a toggle or something. I am going to play around with OBS I think.
It does work but there's a step missing - rebooting. For me at least, it seems to record in the mode I'm in when my PC reboots. Maybe there's a service that you can just restart instead of your whole PC but nothing jumps out at me when I look at what's running on my own PC.
I presume this is because it can record the desktop and applications starting up. It has to deal with the mode changing somehow, whether playing a game or not. It can't just switch recording formats right in the middle of a video - the formats don't support it. It could save off the first format then start a second video in the new format but what if the player has the system set to track the last half hour's worth of video and he's been switching back and forth between 2D and 3D? The system might have to save off a dozen videos as soon as the play requests the recording starts, which is likely to make a performance hit. So they went for the option where the video just keeps going on in the same mode all the time, regardless of the player changing modes.
I'm not so sure the 3D that gets recorded when playing in 2D is really 3D or if it's just the same frame on both sides.
The very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common. Instead of altering their views to fit the facts, they alter the facts to fit their views ... which can be very uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that needs altering.
[quote="Zloth"][quote="Necropants"]
Here's an example of a short video I have made, that does work (on PC) a little while I go, when I edit it I see they have now depreciated the 3d flag. Thanks google.
[url]https://www.youtube.com/edit?o=U&video_id=QSWyfqH45vI[/url]
[/quote]
That's a general edit link - it points to all my videos for me. That, or you done stole all my vids! ;)
Wait a second, the video I uploaded before that looked completely mangled is now working fine.
https://youtu.be/K5tCLQKey5Q
Maybe it just needs more time to sit? I think it did lose a lot of resolution.
FFMPEG command used:
"D:\Program Files\FFMpeg\bin\ffmpeg" -i %1 -codec: copy -metadata:s:v:0 stereo_mode=1 output.mkv[/quote]
Wow, please give me instructions on how to achieve that? I'm glad the community is getting involved, this has to be addressed :(
Necropants said:
Here's an example of a short video I have made, that does work (on PC) a little while I go, when I edit it I see they have now depreciated the 3d flag. Thanks google.
Zloth
Hoping that was the solution. I tried disabling 3D, and enabling shadow play and rebooting. Then turned 3d back on. This didn't work. How do you achieve this exactly?
Or are you saying record desktop feature needs to be on and it only works if you start recording before the gam e starts? If this is the case its not a solution for me because I need to use the shadow play "flashback"feature.
Looks like you got the 2d to work as per my video with the meta tags, but that still doesnt solve the issue with viewing video on a phone. I guess I will have to try and find a solution to edit the video into 2d somehow before upload.
Hoping that was the solution. I tried disabling 3D, and enabling shadow play and rebooting. Then turned 3d back on. This didn't work. How do you achieve this exactly?
Or are you saying record desktop feature needs to be on and it only works if you start recording before the gam e starts? If this is the case its not a solution for me because I need to use the shadow play "flashback"feature.
Looks like you got the 2d to work as per my video with the meta tags, but that still doesnt solve the issue with viewing video on a phone. I guess I will have to try and find a solution to edit the video into 2d somehow before upload.
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Necropants, it seems to latch on to whatever mode you have set when you reboot. So, if you want to record in 2D, [u]disable[/u] 3D Vision in the NVIDIA control panel and reboot. All recordings will be normal. If you want to record in 3D then have 3D Vision enabled when you reboot. All recordings will then be side by side. Toggling 3D Vision on/off won't matter, it will keep recording 3D all the time.
The bit about desktops and flashback is just my guess as to why NVIDIA did it this way.
I have no idea what goes on with phones. I've just got a flip phone so I can't tell!
UnityBeing, it's right there in my post. Now just use your old DOS batch file skills and you're good to go! Well, assuming you learned to use computers more than 25 years ago... yeah, I probably should give a tad more detail. :)
First you need to get FFMPEG. The place to get it is here: https://ffmpeg.zeranoe.com/builds/
Unfortunately, the advertisements on that website include some that try to look like the download but are really just advertisements. The actual download is via the blue 'download build' button which is currently pointed at this: https://ffmpeg.zeranoe.com/builds/win64/static/ffmpeg-3.4.1-win64-static.zip
Unzip that and put it somewhere. It doesn't really matter where but you do need to remember where it is.
Now make a text file on your desktop, in your videos folder, or wherever it is that you want to work with video files. The text file will have just one line in it:
"D:\Program Files\FFMpeg\bin\ffmpeg.exe" -i %1 -codec: copy -metadata:s:v:0 stereo_mode=1 output.mkv
Except you need to change the first part of it that's in quotes. That needs to be the location where you copied FFMPEG. I put mine in "D:\Program Files\FFMpeg" so that's where my file is pointed.
Finally, rename the file to Conv.bat. When Windows warns you about changing the extension, tell it that you do want the extension changed.
Now, to convert a video, simply drag the video file right on top of the Conv.bat file. The bat file will run on your video and make a new one called output.mkv. You can upload output.mkv and YouTube will (a few minutes [u]after[/u] it "finishes" processing) recognize it as 3D and act like my link above.
Necropants, it seems to latch on to whatever mode you have set when you reboot. So, if you want to record in 2D, disable 3D Vision in the NVIDIA control panel and reboot. All recordings will be normal. If you want to record in 3D then have 3D Vision enabled when you reboot. All recordings will then be side by side. Toggling 3D Vision on/off won't matter, it will keep recording 3D all the time.
The bit about desktops and flashback is just my guess as to why NVIDIA did it this way.
I have no idea what goes on with phones. I've just got a flip phone so I can't tell!
UnityBeing, it's right there in my post. Now just use your old DOS batch file skills and you're good to go! Well, assuming you learned to use computers more than 25 years ago... yeah, I probably should give a tad more detail. :)
Unzip that and put it somewhere. It doesn't really matter where but you do need to remember where it is.
Now make a text file on your desktop, in your videos folder, or wherever it is that you want to work with video files. The text file will have just one line in it:
"D:\Program Files\FFMpeg\bin\ffmpeg.exe" -i %1 -codec: copy -metadata:s:v:0 stereo_mode=1 output.mkv
Except you need to change the first part of it that's in quotes. That needs to be the location where you copied FFMPEG. I put mine in "D:\Program Files\FFMpeg" so that's where my file is pointed.
Finally, rename the file to Conv.bat. When Windows warns you about changing the extension, tell it that you do want the extension changed.
Now, to convert a video, simply drag the video file right on top of the Conv.bat file. The bat file will run on your video and make a new one called output.mkv. You can upload output.mkv and YouTube will (a few minutes after it "finishes" processing) recognize it as 3D and act like my link above.
The very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common. Instead of altering their views to fit the facts, they alter the facts to fit their views ... which can be very uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that needs altering.
[quote="Zloth"]Necropants, it seems to latch on to whatever mode you have set when you reboot. So, if you want to record in 2D, [u]disable[/u] 3D Vision in the NVIDIA control panel and reboot. All recordings will be normal. If you want to record in 3D then have 3D Vision enabled when you reboot. All recordings will then be side by side. Toggling 3D Vision on/off won't matter, it will keep recording 3D all the time. [/quote]
Thanks for the tutorial for the encoding.
But, what you describe above does not work for me however, so there must be a bit to the puzzle missing here. As soon as I toggle 3dvision back on regardless of rebooting it goes back to capturing SBS. So annoying.
Zloth said:Necropants, it seems to latch on to whatever mode you have set when you reboot. So, if you want to record in 2D, disable 3D Vision in the NVIDIA control panel and reboot. All recordings will be normal. If you want to record in 3D then have 3D Vision enabled when you reboot. All recordings will then be side by side. Toggling 3D Vision on/off won't matter, it will keep recording 3D all the time.
Thanks for the tutorial for the encoding.
But, what you describe above does not work for me however, so there must be a bit to the puzzle missing here. As soon as I toggle 3dvision back on regardless of rebooting it goes back to capturing SBS. So annoying.
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Edit: It worked for me. My exact steps:
1. Disable 3D Vision and rebooted.
2. Once I was back in, recorded my desktop. Came out in 2D, which it pretty much had to do with no 3D Vision.
3. Enabled 3D Vision.
4. Started up the 3D Vision test application and recorded. It came out in 2D.
5. Started up Steam and ran Dead or Alive then recorded. It came out in 2D as well.
Maybe the quick little recording of my desktop did it?
1. Disable 3D Vision and rebooted.
2. Once I was back in, recorded my desktop. Came out in 2D, which it pretty much had to do with no 3D Vision.
3. Enabled 3D Vision.
4. Started up the 3D Vision test application and recorded. It came out in 2D.
5. Started up Steam and ran Dead or Alive then recorded. It came out in 2D as well.
Maybe the quick little recording of my desktop did it?
The very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common. Instead of altering their views to fit the facts, they alter the facts to fit their views ... which can be very uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that needs altering.
[quote="Zloth"]Necropants, it seems to latch on to whatever mode you have set when you reboot. So, if you want to record in 2D, [u]disable[/u] 3D Vision in the NVIDIA control panel and reboot. All recordings will be normal. If you want to record in 3D then have 3D Vision enabled when you reboot. All recordings will then be side by side. Toggling 3D Vision on/off won't matter, it will keep recording 3D all the time.
The bit about desktops and flashback is just my guess as to why NVIDIA did it this way.
I have no idea what goes on with phones. I've just got a flip phone so I can't tell!
UnityBeing, it's right there in my post. Now just use your old DOS batch file skills and you're good to go! Well, assuming you learned to use computers more than 25 years ago... yeah, I probably should give a tad more detail. :)
First you need to get FFMPEG. The place to get it is here: https://ffmpeg.zeranoe.com/builds/
Unfortunately, the advertisements on that website include some that try to look like the download but are really just advertisements. The actual download is via the blue 'download build' button which is currently pointed at this: https://ffmpeg.zeranoe.com/builds/win64/static/ffmpeg-3.4.1-win64-static.zip
Unzip that and put it somewhere. It doesn't really matter where but you do need to remember where it is.
Now make a text file on your desktop, in your videos folder, or wherever it is that you want to work with video files. The text file will have just one line in it:
"D:\Program Files\FFMpeg\bin\ffmpeg.exe" -i %1 -codec: copy -metadata:s:v:0 stereo_mode=1 output.mkv
Except you need to change the first part of it that's in quotes. That needs to be the location where you copied FFMPEG. I put mine in "D:\Program Files\FFMpeg" so that's where my file is pointed.
Finally, rename the file to Conv.bat. When Windows warns you about changing the extension, tell it that you do want the extension changed.
Now, to convert a video, simply drag the video file right on top of the Conv.bat file. The bat file will run on your video and make a new one called output.mkv. You can upload output.mkv and YouTube will (a few minutes [u]after[/u] it "finishes" processing) recognize it as 3D and act like my link above.
[/quote]
Thank you so much!!!! God Bless you and your family.
Zloth said:Necropants, it seems to latch on to whatever mode you have set when you reboot. So, if you want to record in 2D, disable 3D Vision in the NVIDIA control panel and reboot. All recordings will be normal. If you want to record in 3D then have 3D Vision enabled when you reboot. All recordings will then be side by side. Toggling 3D Vision on/off won't matter, it will keep recording 3D all the time.
The bit about desktops and flashback is just my guess as to why NVIDIA did it this way.
I have no idea what goes on with phones. I've just got a flip phone so I can't tell!
UnityBeing, it's right there in my post. Now just use your old DOS batch file skills and you're good to go! Well, assuming you learned to use computers more than 25 years ago... yeah, I probably should give a tad more detail. :)
Unzip that and put it somewhere. It doesn't really matter where but you do need to remember where it is.
Now make a text file on your desktop, in your videos folder, or wherever it is that you want to work with video files. The text file will have just one line in it:
"D:\Program Files\FFMpeg\bin\ffmpeg.exe" -i %1 -codec: copy -metadata:s:v:0 stereo_mode=1 output.mkv
Except you need to change the first part of it that's in quotes. That needs to be the location where you copied FFMPEG. I put mine in "D:\Program Files\FFMpeg" so that's where my file is pointed.
Finally, rename the file to Conv.bat. When Windows warns you about changing the extension, tell it that you do want the extension changed.
Now, to convert a video, simply drag the video file right on top of the Conv.bat file. The bat file will run on your video and make a new one called output.mkv. You can upload output.mkv and YouTube will (a few minutes after it "finishes" processing) recognize it as 3D and act like my link above.
Thank you so much!!!! God Bless you and your family.
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Except that's only the case on PC
I have tried this, and yes although it works if you specifically set the 3d flag on upload (although there is a warning 3d tag is soon to be depreciated, as well)
The issue is most people I know use their phones to look at youtube these days, and in this case it displays as that horrible green color phone mode with no option to change it. You cant see the 2d version of the video on phones.
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Worse yet, I couldn't get the FFMPEG from their help page to work for me. Most of those x264 options don't parse for my FFMPEG. I had to cut it down to just the frame-packing=3. That made a mess when the 3D played and even the 2D only showed about half of the image.
The very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common. Instead of altering their views to fit the facts, they alter the facts to fit their views ... which can be very uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that needs altering.
-- Doctor Who, "Face of Evil"
I agree with Necropants that phone watching is a primary viewer for anything, and it does not support even 2D there. Completely, utterly, stupid. But hey, you can always hit the Cardboard icon and see it in SBS. Maybe this is better because at least it's real 3D, and cardboard is cheap as hell.
If you really want straight 2D, it seems like your only option is to post process the video. ShadowPlay is great for quality and low resource consumption while playing, but only generates 3D now.
There is a free video editor from Microsoft, and assorted free trials from others. To make the videos in the ShaderHackers school I used one of those. Setting it up to transcode to only one half should be doable.
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I am really reluctant to move away from shadowplay due to the need for flashback recording, so I have been looking at doing something along the lines you suggested. Just haven't found anything straightforward to to use. Would appreciate any suggestions. I guess I'll try the microsoft editor.
Here's an example of a short video I have made, that does work (on PC) a little while I go, when I edit it I see they have now depreciated the 3d flag. Thanks google.
https://youtu.be/QSWyfqH45vI
Don't see anyway to not make it display in Anaglyph mode on phones.
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That's a general edit link - it points to all my videos for me. That, or you done stole all my vids! ;)
Wait a second, the video I uploaded before that looked completely mangled is now working fine.
https://youtu.be/K5tCLQKey5Q
Maybe it just needs more time to sit? I think it did lose a lot of resolution.
FFMPEG command used:
"D:\Program Files\FFMpeg\bin\ffmpeg" -i %1 -codec: copy -metadata:s:v:0 stereo_mode=1 output.mkv
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-- Doctor Who, "Face of Evil"
https://youtu.be/QSWyfqH45vI
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It does work but there's a step missing - rebooting. For me at least, it seems to record in the mode I'm in when my PC reboots. Maybe there's a service that you can just restart instead of your whole PC but nothing jumps out at me when I look at what's running on my own PC.
I presume this is because it can record the desktop and applications starting up. It has to deal with the mode changing somehow, whether playing a game or not. It can't just switch recording formats right in the middle of a video - the formats don't support it. It could save off the first format then start a second video in the new format but what if the player has the system set to track the last half hour's worth of video and he's been switching back and forth between 2D and 3D? The system might have to save off a dozen videos as soon as the play requests the recording starts, which is likely to make a performance hit. So they went for the option where the video just keeps going on in the same mode all the time, regardless of the player changing modes.
I'm not so sure the 3D that gets recorded when playing in 2D is really 3D or if it's just the same frame on both sides.
The very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common. Instead of altering their views to fit the facts, they alter the facts to fit their views ... which can be very uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that needs altering.
-- Doctor Who, "Face of Evil"
Wow, please give me instructions on how to achieve that? I'm glad the community is getting involved, this has to be addressed :(
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Hoping that was the solution. I tried disabling 3D, and enabling shadow play and rebooting. Then turned 3d back on. This didn't work. How do you achieve this exactly?
Or are you saying record desktop feature needs to be on and it only works if you start recording before the gam e starts? If this is the case its not a solution for me because I need to use the shadow play "flashback"feature.
Looks like you got the 2d to work as per my video with the meta tags, but that still doesnt solve the issue with viewing video on a phone. I guess I will have to try and find a solution to edit the video into 2d somehow before upload.
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The bit about desktops and flashback is just my guess as to why NVIDIA did it this way.
I have no idea what goes on with phones. I've just got a flip phone so I can't tell!
UnityBeing, it's right there in my post. Now just use your old DOS batch file skills and you're good to go! Well, assuming you learned to use computers more than 25 years ago... yeah, I probably should give a tad more detail. :)
First you need to get FFMPEG. The place to get it is here: https://ffmpeg.zeranoe.com/builds/
Unfortunately, the advertisements on that website include some that try to look like the download but are really just advertisements. The actual download is via the blue 'download build' button which is currently pointed at this: https://ffmpeg.zeranoe.com/builds/win64/static/ffmpeg-3.4.1-win64-static.zip
Unzip that and put it somewhere. It doesn't really matter where but you do need to remember where it is.
Now make a text file on your desktop, in your videos folder, or wherever it is that you want to work with video files. The text file will have just one line in it:
"D:\Program Files\FFMpeg\bin\ffmpeg.exe" -i %1 -codec: copy -metadata:s:v:0 stereo_mode=1 output.mkv
Except you need to change the first part of it that's in quotes. That needs to be the location where you copied FFMPEG. I put mine in "D:\Program Files\FFMpeg" so that's where my file is pointed.
Finally, rename the file to Conv.bat. When Windows warns you about changing the extension, tell it that you do want the extension changed.
Now, to convert a video, simply drag the video file right on top of the Conv.bat file. The bat file will run on your video and make a new one called output.mkv. You can upload output.mkv and YouTube will (a few minutes after it "finishes" processing) recognize it as 3D and act like my link above.
The very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common. Instead of altering their views to fit the facts, they alter the facts to fit their views ... which can be very uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that needs altering.
-- Doctor Who, "Face of Evil"
Thanks for the tutorial for the encoding.
But, what you describe above does not work for me however, so there must be a bit to the puzzle missing here. As soon as I toggle 3dvision back on regardless of rebooting it goes back to capturing SBS. So annoying.
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1. Disable 3D Vision and rebooted.
2. Once I was back in, recorded my desktop. Came out in 2D, which it pretty much had to do with no 3D Vision.
3. Enabled 3D Vision.
4. Started up the 3D Vision test application and recorded. It came out in 2D.
5. Started up Steam and ran Dead or Alive then recorded. It came out in 2D as well.
Maybe the quick little recording of my desktop did it?
The very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common. Instead of altering their views to fit the facts, they alter the facts to fit their views ... which can be very uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that needs altering.
-- Doctor Who, "Face of Evil"
Thank you so much!!!! God Bless you and your family.
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