Would like to use my NVidia 1060 GPU with old fashioned red/blue 3D glasses from an old movie theater.
Reading online, I understand 3D Vision can support Anaglyph. Looking further, seems the Stereoscopic 3D feature isn't enabled in my NVIDIA Control Panel (latest drivers installed).
Seems a pretty typical thing for someone to want to do. Surprising lack of Win 10 drivers or suitable instructions for using 3D Vision this way.
I'd much appreciate any ideas / pointers getting this working.
Thanks,
Bob
Would like to use my NVidia 1060 GPU with old fashioned red/blue 3D glasses from an old movie theater.
Reading online, I understand 3D Vision can support Anaglyph. Looking further, seems the Stereoscopic 3D feature isn't enabled in my NVIDIA Control Panel (latest drivers installed).
Seems a pretty typical thing for someone to want to do. Surprising lack of Win 10 drivers or suitable instructions for using 3D Vision this way.
I'd much appreciate any ideas / pointers getting this working.
Yes, those were already installed. But to be certain, I uninstalled it all and re-did the custom install.
Same result:
Unfortunately, there is still no "Stereoscopic 3D" feature in my NVIDIA Control Panel.
Any ideas?
Thanks,
Bob
Is this by any chance on a laptop? If so, it might not be possible... and even if it is, it might only be possible on an external monitor/TV...
[quote="D-Man11"]The problem that you'll most likely run into is that your integrated display is routed off of a CPU video output and not the discrete Nvidia GPU.
This is known as Optimus technology and is aimed out preserving battery run time.
It's because of this that you would also be unlikely to run an external stereoscopic display with Nvidia's stereoscopic driver.
http://www.nvidia.com/object/optimus_technology.html
Look at the 4th pic in this thread, you can see the integrated display is connected to the Intel Graphics. At the same time, you can see that luckily, he has a Display Port output from the Nvidia GPU. Thus allowing the use of an external stereoscopic display. More times than not, we had users post with laptops that all of their video outputs were routed off of the Intel graphics chip, with nothing out of the GPU.
[url]https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/571045/[/url]
So you'd definitely want to put your hands on it in a store first and check it out.[/quote][url]https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/978543/3d-vision/does-3d-vision-work-with-new-120hz-notebooks-edid-/post/5025584/#5025584[/url]
Is this by any chance on a laptop? If so, it might not be possible... and even if it is, it might only be possible on an external monitor/TV...
D-Man11 said:The problem that you'll most likely run into is that your integrated display is routed off of a CPU video output and not the discrete Nvidia GPU.
This is known as Optimus technology and is aimed out preserving battery run time.
Look at the 4th pic in this thread, you can see the integrated display is connected to the Intel Graphics. At the same time, you can see that luckily, he has a Display Port output from the Nvidia GPU. Thus allowing the use of an external stereoscopic display. More times than not, we had users post with laptops that all of their video outputs were routed off of the Intel graphics chip, with nothing out of the GPU. https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/571045/
So you'd definitely want to put your hands on it in a store first and check it out.
Best solution would to be to just uninstall the 3Dvision drivers if you are on a laptop and either a)pay for tridef or b) use the superdepth shader in reshade. both of those have anaglyph.
Best solution would to be to just uninstall the 3Dvision drivers if you are on a laptop and either a)pay for tridef or b) use the superdepth shader in reshade. both of those have anaglyph.
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Goal is to show our content in front of a large audience where old fashioned red/blue glasses are appropriate using standard available AV equipment. Yes, it's using a laptop but I was of the impression the VR Ready setup got past the Optimus restrictions of older gen GPUs, no?
Goal is to show our content in front of a large audience where old fashioned red/blue glasses are appropriate using standard available AV equipment. Yes, it's using a laptop but I was of the impression the VR Ready setup got past the Optimus restrictions of older gen GPUs, no?
Well problem with using Red/Blue glasses is that according to NVidia they use Red/Cyan (Cyan is Bluish Green color NOT Blue alone..
thnx to D-Man11 for the conformation NVidia changed colors to Red/Cyan..
Kind of curious did the NVIDIA 3D Vision Driver actually get installed, I know you checked the box during install but did it really install it?
Control Panel > Programs > Programs and Features > NVIDIA 3D Vision Driver 376.33
...if not you could try manually installing it from the folder where it unpacked the Drivers, usually something like:
C:\NVIDIA\DisplayDriver\376.33\Win10_64\International\NV3DVision\3DVision.exe
Just tried this on Win10 driver 376.33, and even with installing the 3D Vision driver, you do not get Discover available in the control panel.
This is using the Desktop driver, not the notebook driver. I'm not sure it knows that it's a laptop (Sager, desktop parts), but the monitor only refreshes at a max of 75 Hz.
The driver is installed, but when I run the NVStWiz from the 3D Vision folder, it says "the laptops panel is not qualified for 3D Vision."
It should still allow Discover, but for whatever reason, the driver locks this out.
If I add an external monitor, even an ancient Dell at 60Hz, it allows Discover to activate, so it's only the internal monitor on the laptop that is locked out.
Just tried this on Win10 driver 376.33, and even with installing the 3D Vision driver, you do not get Discover available in the control panel.
This is using the Desktop driver, not the notebook driver. I'm not sure it knows that it's a laptop (Sager, desktop parts), but the monitor only refreshes at a max of 75 Hz.
The driver is installed, but when I run the NVStWiz from the 3D Vision folder, it says "the laptops panel is not qualified for 3D Vision."
It should still allow Discover, but for whatever reason, the driver locks this out.
If I add an external monitor, even an ancient Dell at 60Hz, it allows Discover to activate, so it's only the internal monitor on the laptop that is locked out.
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My anaglyph glasses arrived yesterday (it's my only realistic way to play PCSX2 in 3D, sadly). As I expected, my color blindness (red weakness) affects ghosting. Color examples (with values from 0 to 100):
- R100, G100, B0: no ghosting at all. But everything looks red and green.
- R100, G50, B30: better compromise with just a little of ghosting. Still messed up colorwise.
- R100, G100, B100: lots of ghosting in my left eye (red glass), while the right eye doesn't have any ghosting at all. Annoying and hard to focus on things.
Others that have tried 3D Vision Discover, do you have the same problems as me? Is this reddish color configuration how normal people see?
My anaglyph glasses arrived yesterday (it's my only realistic way to play PCSX2 in 3D, sadly). As I expected, my color blindness (red weakness) affects ghosting. Color examples (with values from 0 to 100):
- R100, G100, B0: no ghosting at all. But everything looks red and green.
- R100, G50, B30: better compromise with just a little of ghosting. Still messed up colorwise.
- R100, G100, B100: lots of ghosting in my left eye (red glass), while the right eye doesn't have any ghosting at all. Annoying and hard to focus on things.
Others that have tried 3D Vision Discover, do you have the same problems as me? Is this reddish color configuration how normal people see?
When Nvidia was red/blue, the blue ghosted terribly, because Nvidia used a deeper blue than the available glasses on the market. The official glasses from Nvidia were paper only and used to be sold in the Nvidia store in 10 packs. They also included them in certain GPUs when Discover was initially released.
Nvidia stopped selling them and the failtard vendors could never get the blue filter correct, that's why I asked to have it changed to red/cyan.
Using paper glasses that came in a DVD, I get close to 100% extinction on my S2716DG. If you are not getting good extinction, try changing the output dynamic range in the control panel. Also try using a color chart to check that the RGB spectrum is being displayed properly. I have the NVCP set to "Other applications control color settings"
It could also be your glasses are not actually true red/cyan.
When Nvidia was red/blue, the blue ghosted terribly, because Nvidia used a deeper blue than the available glasses on the market. The official glasses from Nvidia were paper only and used to be sold in the Nvidia store in 10 packs. They also included them in certain GPUs when Discover was initially released.
Nvidia stopped selling them and the failtard vendors could never get the blue filter correct, that's why I asked to have it changed to red/cyan.
Using paper glasses that came in a DVD, I get close to 100% extinction on my S2716DG. If you are not getting good extinction, try changing the output dynamic range in the control panel. Also try using a color chart to check that the RGB spectrum is being displayed properly. I have the NVCP set to "Other applications control color settings"
It could also be your glasses are not actually true red/cyan.
@masterotaku Discover/Anaglyph glasses work pretty much the same for me...
The blue lens does a fairly decent job of blocking the other view while still letting a decent amount of light through BUT through the red lens I end up seeing far more doubled images, red and blue, even though the red side seems to block more light.
Technically both sides do ghost I just notice the red much more, the blue side tends to ghost more in lighter areas... I messed around a little with them, tried doubling up the lenses. It helped a bit on the red side but then it was almost completely red/black on that side... and made me notice the ghosting on the blue side even more.
I also tried magenta/green ones but they seemed just as bad on both sides... still in search of cheap yellow/blue ones.
@masterotaku Discover/Anaglyph glasses work pretty much the same for me...
The blue lens does a fairly decent job of blocking the other view while still letting a decent amount of light through BUT through the red lens I end up seeing far more doubled images, red and blue, even though the red side seems to block more light.
Technically both sides do ghost I just notice the red much more, the blue side tends to ghost more in lighter areas... I messed around a little with them, tried doubling up the lenses. It helped a bit on the red side but then it was almost completely red/black on that side... and made me notice the ghosting on the blue side even more.
I also tried magenta/green ones but they seemed just as bad on both sides... still in search of cheap yellow/blue ones.
According to this website (http://www.david-romeuf.fr/3D/Anaglyphes/BonCoupleEL/GoodCoupleMonitorGlassesAnaglyph.html) I have discovered that my red filter is faulty. It lets some green and blue (especially blue in my case) pass through it.
Their recommendation of using two pairs of glasses works to make the filter stronger. Actually, using two red filters is enough for me, but then it's too dark on that eye. In general, it's a very dark 3D mode, even if I disable ULMB and use 100% brightness.
My main purpose of buying those glasses was PCSX2, but now that I made 3D Vision work with that emulator, they will collect dust for a while :p.
Their recommendation of using two pairs of glasses works to make the filter stronger. Actually, using two red filters is enough for me, but then it's too dark on that eye. In general, it's a very dark 3D mode, even if I disable ULMB and use 100% brightness.
My main purpose of buying those glasses was PCSX2, but now that I made 3D Vision work with that emulator, they will collect dust for a while :p.
Reading online, I understand 3D Vision can support Anaglyph. Looking further, seems the Stereoscopic 3D feature isn't enabled in my NVIDIA Control Panel (latest drivers installed).
Seems a pretty typical thing for someone to want to do. Surprising lack of Win 10 drivers or suitable instructions for using 3D Vision this way.
I'd much appreciate any ideas / pointers getting this working.
Thanks,
Bob
Same result:
Unfortunately, there is still no "Stereoscopic 3D" feature in my NVIDIA Control Panel.
Any ideas?
Thanks,
Bob
https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/978543/3d-vision/does-3d-vision-work-with-new-120hz-notebooks-edid-/post/5025584/#5025584
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thnx to D-Man11 for the conformation NVidia changed colors to Red/Cyan..
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Control Panel > Programs > Programs and Features > NVIDIA 3D Vision Driver 376.33
...if not you could try manually installing it from the folder where it unpacked the Drivers, usually something like:
C:\NVIDIA\DisplayDriver\376.33\Win10_64\International\NV3DVision\3DVision.exe
[MonitorSizeOverride][Global/Base Profile Tweaks][Depth=IPD]
This is using the Desktop driver, not the notebook driver. I'm not sure it knows that it's a laptop (Sager, desktop parts), but the monitor only refreshes at a max of 75 Hz.
The driver is installed, but when I run the NVStWiz from the 3D Vision folder, it says "the laptops panel is not qualified for 3D Vision."
It should still allow Discover, but for whatever reason, the driver locks this out.
If I add an external monitor, even an ancient Dell at 60Hz, it allows Discover to activate, so it's only the internal monitor on the laptop that is locked out.
Acer H5360 (1280x720@120Hz) - ASUS VG248QE with GSync mod - 3D Vision 1&2 - Driver 372.54
GTX 970 - i5-4670K@4.2GHz - 12GB RAM - Win7x64+evilKB2670838 - 4 Disk X25 RAID
SAGER NP9870-S - GTX 980 - i7-6700K - Win10 Pro 1607
Latest 3Dmigoto Release
Bo3b's School for ShaderHackers
- R100, G100, B0: no ghosting at all. But everything looks red and green.
- R100, G50, B30: better compromise with just a little of ghosting. Still messed up colorwise.
- R100, G100, B100: lots of ghosting in my left eye (red glass), while the right eye doesn't have any ghosting at all. Annoying and hard to focus on things.
Others that have tried 3D Vision Discover, do you have the same problems as me? Is this reddish color configuration how normal people see?
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Nvidia stopped selling them and the failtard vendors could never get the blue filter correct, that's why I asked to have it changed to red/cyan.
Using paper glasses that came in a DVD, I get close to 100% extinction on my S2716DG. If you are not getting good extinction, try changing the output dynamic range in the control panel. Also try using a color chart to check that the RGB spectrum is being displayed properly. I have the NVCP set to "Other applications control color settings"
It could also be your glasses are not actually true red/cyan.
The blue lens does a fairly decent job of blocking the other view while still letting a decent amount of light through BUT through the red lens I end up seeing far more doubled images, red and blue, even though the red side seems to block more light.
Technically both sides do ghost I just notice the red much more, the blue side tends to ghost more in lighter areas... I messed around a little with them, tried doubling up the lenses. It helped a bit on the red side but then it was almost completely red/black on that side... and made me notice the ghosting on the blue side even more.
I also tried magenta/green ones but they seemed just as bad on both sides... still in search of cheap yellow/blue ones.
[MonitorSizeOverride][Global/Base Profile Tweaks][Depth=IPD]
Their recommendation of using two pairs of glasses works to make the filter stronger. Actually, using two red filters is enough for me, but then it's too dark on that eye. In general, it's a very dark 3D mode, even if I disable ULMB and use 100% brightness.
My main purpose of buying those glasses was PCSX2, but now that I made 3D Vision work with that emulator, they will collect dust for a while :p.
CPU: Intel Core i7 7700K @ 4.9GHz
Motherboard: Gigabyte Aorus GA-Z270X-Gaming 5
RAM: GSKILL Ripjaws Z 16GB 3866MHz CL18
GPU: Gainward Phoenix 1080 GLH
Monitor: Asus PG278QR
Speakers: Logitech Z506
Donations account: masterotakusuko@gmail.com