New to 3D with hardware questions What works, what to avoid
Hey All,
Just made the leap, and purchased the NV 3d kit from the egg.
I currently have a msi ti 560 oc installed, running win 7 x64 on a amd quad phenon II 965 w/ 8gb memory
Don't have a 120+ hz monitor or tv yet.
crysis II for example gives me about 38 fps w/o 3d.
I could add a second gpu and do sli, but I'd need a bigger psu as well
My current monitor (for gaming) is a 32inch 1080P tv that produces a very nice image
If I try to use my older 60hz monitor, what is the end result?
I looked at 120 hz monitors in the 24 to 27 inch size and they are quite spendy,
Can I use any generic 120hz lcd tv and get acceptable results?
newegg has a recertified 32 and a 40 inch element 120 hz tv in my price range.
Unfortunately those tv's will not work.vthey may say 120hz, but no tv can truly accept a 120hz input. All they do is take the 60hz input and use video processing to make it look smoother. This is also the cause of input lag on tv.
You will either need. 120hz monitor that is specified as 3d ready, or a 3d tv. Due to limitations of hdmi, if you get a 3d tv, you will not be able to game in 1080p at 60 frames. You are limited to 720p for 60 frames or 1080p at 24 frames. If you get a 3d vision ready monitor, you will be able to games in 1080p at 60 frames. The monitors accomplish this by either a dual dvi link or display port.
Unfortunately those tv's will not work.vthey may say 120hz, but no tv can truly accept a 120hz input. All they do is take the 60hz input and use video processing to make it look smoother. This is also the cause of input lag on tv.
You will either need. 120hz monitor that is specified as 3d ready, or a 3d tv. Due to limitations of hdmi, if you get a 3d tv, you will not be able to game in 1080p at 60 frames. You are limited to 720p for 60 frames or 1080p at 24 frames. If you get a 3d vision ready monitor, you will be able to games in 1080p at 60 frames. The monitors accomplish this by either a dual dvi link or display port.
Don't open the Nvidia 3D kit, they only work with specific model desktop LCDs so if you open them you may incur a restocking fee if you need to return them. In general desktop LCD that say "3D Vision Ready" work with the Nvidia 3D hardware (glasses kit, emitter). 3D HDTVs use their own native mfg 3D hardware, either active shutter glasses or passive polarized usually.
3D will NOT work with just any LCD or HDTV regardless of what they claim in terms of refresh rates.
Here's the supported 3D Vision Displays:
http://www.nvidia.com/object/3d-vision-displays.html
Here's the supported 3DTV Play HDTVs (click on supported 3D TVs):
http://www.nvidia.com/object/3dtv-play-system-requirements.html
Don't open the Nvidia 3D kit, they only work with specific model desktop LCDs so if you open them you may incur a restocking fee if you need to return them. In general desktop LCD that say "3D Vision Ready" work with the Nvidia 3D hardware (glasses kit, emitter). 3D HDTVs use their own native mfg 3D hardware, either active shutter glasses or passive polarized usually.
3D will NOT work with just any LCD or HDTV regardless of what they claim in terms of refresh rates.
[quote name='toddbailey' date='22 December 2011 - 03:39 PM' timestamp='1324586370' post='1345978']
and I thought all I needed to do was buy a 3d kit and a monitor/tv and ready to go...
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That is all you have to do with your current equipment (fast system, fast Nvidia GPU), you just have to buy the correct monitor or 3D TV:
This monitor for example, has everything you would need at a reasonable price (~$400). Not saying this is the one to get but there's similar offerings by other vendors, just search 3D Vision at Newegg.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236092
If you go 3D TV its obviously going to be more expensive, but 3DTVs are usually in the $1000-$1500 range now and usually include some free glasses. You also need to make sure you buy a supported monitor, some are better than others, and you will also need to buy 3DTV Play for $40 for 3D gaming support.
[quote name='toddbailey' date='22 December 2011 - 03:39 PM' timestamp='1324586370' post='1345978']
and I thought all I needed to do was buy a 3d kit and a monitor/tv and ready to go...
That is all you have to do with your current equipment (fast system, fast Nvidia GPU), you just have to buy the correct monitor or 3D TV:
This monitor for example, has everything you would need at a reasonable price (~$400). Not saying this is the one to get but there's similar offerings by other vendors, just search 3D Vision at Newegg.
If you go 3D TV its obviously going to be more expensive, but 3DTVs are usually in the $1000-$1500 range now and usually include some free glasses. You also need to make sure you buy a supported monitor, some are better than others, and you will also need to buy 3DTV Play for $40 for 3D gaming support.
Thanks for all the help, I almost purchased a TV that wouldn't do much.
After quickly cancelling the $150 newegg order for the 3d glasses ir transmitter kit, I read the compatibility list and
turns out the 3 or so tv-monitors I was interested were supported after all, a toshiba, sony and a lg but once you add up all the costs, I had a to ask myself wtf am I doing. And I didn't really think a 40 to 45 inch beast on the desk would be ideal. so I finally settled on the asus VG278H monitor ( the same as demo'd by newegg - nvidia in their video)
Thanks for all the help, I almost purchased a TV that wouldn't do much.
After quickly cancelling the $150 newegg order for the 3d glasses ir transmitter kit, I read the compatibility list and
turns out the 3 or so tv-monitors I was interested were supported after all, a toshiba, sony and a lg but once you add up all the costs, I had a to ask myself wtf am I doing. And I didn't really think a 40 to 45 inch beast on the desk would be ideal. so I finally settled on the asus VG278H monitor ( the same as demo'd by newegg - nvidia in their video)
Just made the leap, and purchased the NV 3d kit from the egg.
I currently have a msi ti 560 oc installed, running win 7 x64 on a amd quad phenon II 965 w/ 8gb memory
Don't have a 120+ hz monitor or tv yet.
crysis II for example gives me about 38 fps w/o 3d.
I could add a second gpu and do sli, but I'd need a bigger psu as well
My current monitor (for gaming) is a 32inch 1080P tv that produces a very nice image
If I try to use my older 60hz monitor, what is the end result?
I looked at 120 hz monitors in the 24 to 27 inch size and they are quite spendy,
Can I use any generic 120hz lcd tv and get acceptable results?
newegg has a recertified 32 and a 40 inch element 120 hz tv in my price range.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16889268015
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16889268004
should I pull the trigger on 1 of these or go higher up the quality scale?
Thanks
Just made the leap, and purchased the NV 3d kit from the egg.
I currently have a msi ti 560 oc installed, running win 7 x64 on a amd quad phenon II 965 w/ 8gb memory
Don't have a 120+ hz monitor or tv yet.
crysis II for example gives me about 38 fps w/o 3d.
I could add a second gpu and do sli, but I'd need a bigger psu as well
My current monitor (for gaming) is a 32inch 1080P tv that produces a very nice image
If I try to use my older 60hz monitor, what is the end result?
I looked at 120 hz monitors in the 24 to 27 inch size and they are quite spendy,
Can I use any generic 120hz lcd tv and get acceptable results?
newegg has a recertified 32 and a 40 inch element 120 hz tv in my price range.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16889268015
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16889268004
should I pull the trigger on 1 of these or go higher up the quality scale?
Thanks
You will either need. 120hz monitor that is specified as 3d ready, or a 3d tv. Due to limitations of hdmi, if you get a 3d tv, you will not be able to game in 1080p at 60 frames. You are limited to 720p for 60 frames or 1080p at 24 frames. If you get a 3d vision ready monitor, you will be able to games in 1080p at 60 frames. The monitors accomplish this by either a dual dvi link or display port.
You will either need. 120hz monitor that is specified as 3d ready, or a 3d tv. Due to limitations of hdmi, if you get a 3d tv, you will not be able to game in 1080p at 60 frames. You are limited to 720p for 60 frames or 1080p at 24 frames. If you get a 3d vision ready monitor, you will be able to games in 1080p at 60 frames. The monitors accomplish this by either a dual dvi link or display port.
perhaps something like this
Toshiba - 32" Class / LED / 1080p / 240Hz / 3D / HDTV
perhaps something like this
Toshiba - 32" Class / LED / 1080p / 240Hz / 3D / HDTV
3D will NOT work with just any LCD or HDTV regardless of what they claim in terms of refresh rates.
Here's the supported 3D Vision Displays:
http://www.nvidia.com/object/3d-vision-displays.html
Here's the supported 3DTV Play HDTVs (click on supported 3D TVs):
http://www.nvidia.com/object/3dtv-play-system-requirements.html
3D will NOT work with just any LCD or HDTV regardless of what they claim in terms of refresh rates.
Here's the supported 3D Vision Displays:
http://www.nvidia.com/object/3d-vision-displays.html
Here's the supported 3DTV Play HDTVs (click on supported 3D TVs):
http://www.nvidia.com/object/3dtv-play-system-requirements.html
-=HeliX=- Mod 3DV Game Fixes
My 3D Vision Games List Ratings
Intel Core i7 5930K @4.5GHz | Gigabyte X99 Gaming 5 | Win10 x64 Pro | Corsair H105
Nvidia GeForce Titan X SLI Hybrid | ROG Swift PG278Q 144Hz + 3D Vision/G-Sync | 32GB Adata DDR4 2666
Intel Samsung 950Pro SSD | Samsung EVO 4x1 RAID 0 |
Yamaha VX-677 A/V Receiver | Polk Audio RM6880 7.1 | LG Blu-Ray
Auzen X-Fi HT HD | Logitech G710/G502/G27 | Corsair Air 540 | EVGA P2-1200W
The more I read about 3d issues the less I want to upgrade to it.
ghosting, responce time, seating distance, viewing angles what a mess to decypher
thanks for the link, I'll have to research this in more detail.
and I thought all I needed to do was buy a 3d kit and a monitor/tv and ready to go...
back to square one...
The more I read about 3d issues the less I want to upgrade to it.
ghosting, responce time, seating distance, viewing angles what a mess to decypher
thanks for the link, I'll have to research this in more detail.
and I thought all I needed to do was buy a 3d kit and a monitor/tv and ready to go...
back to square one...
and I thought all I needed to do was buy a 3d kit and a monitor/tv and ready to go...
[/quote]
That is all you have to do with your current equipment (fast system, fast Nvidia GPU), you just have to buy the correct monitor or 3D TV:
This monitor for example, has everything you would need at a reasonable price (~$400). Not saying this is the one to get but there's similar offerings by other vendors, just search 3D Vision at Newegg.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236092
If you go 3D TV its obviously going to be more expensive, but 3DTVs are usually in the $1000-$1500 range now and usually include some free glasses. You also need to make sure you buy a supported monitor, some are better than others, and you will also need to buy 3DTV Play for $40 for 3D gaming support.
and I thought all I needed to do was buy a 3d kit and a monitor/tv and ready to go...
That is all you have to do with your current equipment (fast system, fast Nvidia GPU), you just have to buy the correct monitor or 3D TV:
This monitor for example, has everything you would need at a reasonable price (~$400). Not saying this is the one to get but there's similar offerings by other vendors, just search 3D Vision at Newegg.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236092
If you go 3D TV its obviously going to be more expensive, but 3DTVs are usually in the $1000-$1500 range now and usually include some free glasses. You also need to make sure you buy a supported monitor, some are better than others, and you will also need to buy 3DTV Play for $40 for 3D gaming support.
-=HeliX=- Mod 3DV Game Fixes
My 3D Vision Games List Ratings
Intel Core i7 5930K @4.5GHz | Gigabyte X99 Gaming 5 | Win10 x64 Pro | Corsair H105
Nvidia GeForce Titan X SLI Hybrid | ROG Swift PG278Q 144Hz + 3D Vision/G-Sync | 32GB Adata DDR4 2666
Intel Samsung 950Pro SSD | Samsung EVO 4x1 RAID 0 |
Yamaha VX-677 A/V Receiver | Polk Audio RM6880 7.1 | LG Blu-Ray
Auzen X-Fi HT HD | Logitech G710/G502/G27 | Corsair Air 540 | EVGA P2-1200W
After quickly cancelling the $150 newegg order for the 3d glasses ir transmitter kit, I read the compatibility list and
turns out the 3 or so tv-monitors I was interested were supported after all, a toshiba, sony and a lg but once you add up all the costs, I had a to ask myself wtf am I doing. And I didn't really think a 40 to 45 inch beast on the desk would be ideal. so I finally settled on the asus VG278H monitor ( the same as demo'd by newegg - nvidia in their video)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236206
a tad bit smaller than my 31 inch tv/monitor but at least it will work with out running up the credit cards (too much).
After quickly cancelling the $150 newegg order for the 3d glasses ir transmitter kit, I read the compatibility list and
turns out the 3 or so tv-monitors I was interested were supported after all, a toshiba, sony and a lg but once you add up all the costs, I had a to ask myself wtf am I doing. And I didn't really think a 40 to 45 inch beast on the desk would be ideal. so I finally settled on the asus VG278H monitor ( the same as demo'd by newegg - nvidia in their video)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236206
a tad bit smaller than my 31 inch tv/monitor but at least it will work with out running up the credit cards (too much).