Proper SLI Scaling & Performance in Witcher3 and Fallout4. Translates to better 3D Vision FPS
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Hi guys,
Been playing with the drivers & profiles in the last couple of days. Been doing some "RE" and discovered 2 mystery flags that give proper SLI scaling in both Witcher3 and Fallout4.
I made the original POST in the SLI thread as this is SLI related. HOWEVER! 3D Vision users will benefit the most, especially 3D Surround Users.
I am not going to re-post the whole thread here, but here is the LINK:
https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/904942/sli/-sli-surround-3d-vision-enabling-proper-sli-support-in-games-like-fallout4-witcher3-and-others-/
So, in FL4 from 40FPS (2D) and 20 FPS (3D) I got to 80FPS(2D) and 40FPS (3D) in 3D Surround (5760x1080)!!!
I decided to post this here as well, as I "require" this boost for 3D Vision (and expect others as well).
Currently there is a BUG in the driver in Windows 10, and SLI is broken in 3D Vision Surround. Works correctly in Single Monitor SLI though;)
More info here:
https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/904579/geforce-drivers/official-361-43-game-ready-whql-display-driver-feedback-thread-12-21-15-/post/4761727/#4761727
This should also APPLY to Just Cause 3 I expect (but don't have the game). So, if someone can try and report back would be awesome!!!
Cheers,
Helifax
Been playing with the drivers & profiles in the last couple of days. Been doing some "RE" and discovered 2 mystery flags that give proper SLI scaling in both Witcher3 and Fallout4.
I made the original POST in the SLI thread as this is SLI related. HOWEVER! 3D Vision users will benefit the most, especially 3D Surround Users.
So, in FL4 from 40FPS (2D) and 20 FPS (3D) I got to 80FPS(2D) and 40FPS (3D) in 3D Surround (5760x1080)!!!
I decided to post this here as well, as I "require" this boost for 3D Vision (and expect others as well).
Currently there is a BUG in the driver in Windows 10, and SLI is broken in 3D Vision Surround. Works correctly in Single Monitor SLI though;)
More info here:
https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/904579/geforce-drivers/official-361-43-game-ready-whql-display-driver-feedback-thread-12-21-15-/post/4761727/#4761727
This should also APPLY to Just Cause 3 I expect (but don't have the game). So, if someone can try and report back would be awesome!!!
Cheers,
Helifax
1x Palit RTX 2080Ti Pro Gaming OC(watercooled and overclocked to hell)
3x 3D Vision Ready Asus VG278HE monitors (5760x1080).
Intel i9 9900K (overclocked to 5.3 and watercooled ofc).
Asus Maximus XI Hero Mobo.
16 GB Team Group T-Force Dark Pro DDR4 @ 3600.
Lots of Disks:
- Raid 0 - 256GB Sandisk Extreme SSD.
- Raid 0 - WD Black - 2TB.
- SanDisk SSD PLUS 480 GB.
- Intel 760p 256GB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD.
Creative Sound Blaster Z.
Windows 10 x64 Pro.
etc
Unfortunately this doesnt seem to be working for Just Cause 3. I am using windows 7, and I was not sure if your fix only works for Windows 10.
Using 3d vision surround with 980 ti sli in windows 7. I notice that in multiple games 3d vision performance has been poor except mad max (with 3d fix) were i get 60fps in 3d surround.
However in Witcher 3 I used compatability mode with adjusted convergence to get better depth and managed 60fps in 5760 x 1080 on high settings, as real 3d I would average +- 35 fps. Even in games like Far Cry 4 real 3d gest 30 fps and comatability mode 60 fps in 3d surround. EVGA precision seems not to be reporting sli gpu useage accurately as often says 99% for both gpu's on the newer games. I suspect this is an issue with drivers affecting sli in real 3d.
I will try your method on Witcher 3 and Fallout 4 as well and report back if I see performance gains.
It seem that compatability mode works better in surround for some reason compared to if I switch to single screen.
I am currently hooked on Just Cause 3 were I am getting in the high 50 to 60fps with smooth gameplay on almost max settings in 3d surround even though sli doesnt seem to be working properly.
Unfortunately this doesnt seem to be working for Just Cause 3. I am using windows 7, and I was not sure if your fix only works for Windows 10.
Using 3d vision surround with 980 ti sli in windows 7. I notice that in multiple games 3d vision performance has been poor except mad max (with 3d fix) were i get 60fps in 3d surround.
However in Witcher 3 I used compatability mode with adjusted convergence to get better depth and managed 60fps in 5760 x 1080 on high settings, as real 3d I would average +- 35 fps. Even in games like Far Cry 4 real 3d gest 30 fps and comatability mode 60 fps in 3d surround. EVGA precision seems not to be reporting sli gpu useage accurately as often says 99% for both gpu's on the newer games. I suspect this is an issue with drivers affecting sli in real 3d.
I will try your method on Witcher 3 and Fallout 4 as well and report back if I see performance gains.
It seem that compatability mode works better in surround for some reason compared to if I switch to single screen.
I am currently hooked on Just Cause 3 were I am getting in the high 50 to 60fps with smooth gameplay on almost max settings in 3d surround even though sli doesnt seem to be working properly.
Rampage 4 Extreme
4960x oc 4.6 Ghz, H100i watercooler
2080 Ti Sli
Windows 7 Ultimate Edition
5760x1080 PG258Q/2560x1440 PG278Q
I am eager to try this when I get home. I run Titan x SLI with a 780 as a dedicated processor and still in most games I can't justify running in surround. More often than not I end up on max settings on a single screen.
Then games like star wars battlefront which has pretty superb graphics runs a constant 60fps in 3d surround.
Will be fantastic if this works for me with witcher 3
I am eager to try this when I get home. I run Titan x SLI with a 780 as a dedicated processor and still in most games I can't justify running in surround. More often than not I end up on max settings on a single screen.
Then games like star wars battlefront which has pretty superb graphics runs a constant 60fps in 3d surround.
Will be fantastic if this works for me with witcher 3
i7-4790K CPU 4.8Ghz stable overclock.
16 GB RAM Corsair
EVGA 1080TI SLI
Samsung SSD 840Pro
ASUS Z97-WS
3D Surround ASUS Rog Swift PG278Q(R), 2x PG278Q (yes it works)
Obutto R3volution.
Windows 10 pro 64x (Windows 7 Dual boot)
hmmm Rather mixed results, I do see an improvement in Witcher 3 in surround, but its only a handful of frames and not enough to be an enjoyable experience for me. I am still only getting about 30fps (40 would be tolerable)
Make me once again wonder what sort of graphical settings you are running. We have similar hardware except I am running SLI titans X. What I'd like to know this cause it makes me think there might be something up with my rig or something. Or you are running settings that are much lower than I am to achieve this result.
Also which driver are you using this on? cheers.
As for fallout 4, with your profile. it's unplayable, I actually get some graphics corruption with this profile, where it almost seems like the images are burning into the screen and I see ghosts of previous rendered scenes bled in with my current graphics... pretty wierd.
hmmm Rather mixed results, I do see an improvement in Witcher 3 in surround, but its only a handful of frames and not enough to be an enjoyable experience for me. I am still only getting about 30fps (40 would be tolerable)
Make me once again wonder what sort of graphical settings you are running. We have similar hardware except I am running SLI titans X. What I'd like to know this cause it makes me think there might be something up with my rig or something. Or you are running settings that are much lower than I am to achieve this result.
Also which driver are you using this on? cheers.
As for fallout 4, with your profile. it's unplayable, I actually get some graphics corruption with this profile, where it almost seems like the images are burning into the screen and I see ghosts of previous rendered scenes bled in with my current graphics... pretty wierd.
i7-4790K CPU 4.8Ghz stable overclock.
16 GB RAM Corsair
EVGA 1080TI SLI
Samsung SSD 840Pro
ASUS Z97-WS
3D Surround ASUS Rog Swift PG278Q(R), 2x PG278Q (yes it works)
Obutto R3volution.
Windows 10 pro 64x (Windows 7 Dual boot)
You are on Windows 7 right? Or Windows 10?
In Windows 10 SLI breaks (in Surround) if 3D Vision is enabled.
I have tried it with 359.00 and 361.43 drivers. The Fallout4 profile has a wrong SLI flag which I noticed after that it introduces some weird things. The original Profile should be OK 0x080000F5.
In Witcher 3 you get that framerate in 3D Surround or 2D Surround? In 2D Surround you should get around 50-60fps in 3D Surround 25-35 Fps.
As to the results I get 2xFPS in both games compared to the normal profile... from 28 to 56 in Witcher 3 (2D Surround) and 41 to 81 in Fallout4 as shown in the video.
[quote]Then games like star wars battlefront which has pretty superb graphics runs a constant 60fps in 3d surround.
[/quote]
Interesting as I can't run that game at 60fps in 3D Surround;)) I get 30fps in 3D Surround on max resolution and all stuff...Must be my VRAM being flooded but even so...
You are on Windows 7 right? Or Windows 10?
In Windows 10 SLI breaks (in Surround) if 3D Vision is enabled.
I have tried it with 359.00 and 361.43 drivers. The Fallout4 profile has a wrong SLI flag which I noticed after that it introduces some weird things. The original Profile should be OK 0x080000F5.
In Witcher 3 you get that framerate in 3D Surround or 2D Surround? In 2D Surround you should get around 50-60fps in 3D Surround 25-35 Fps.
As to the results I get 2xFPS in both games compared to the normal profile... from 28 to 56 in Witcher 3 (2D Surround) and 41 to 81 in Fallout4 as shown in the video.
Then games like star wars battlefront which has pretty superb graphics runs a constant 60fps in 3d surround.
Interesting as I can't run that game at 60fps in 3D Surround;)) I get 30fps in 3D Surround on max resolution and all stuff...Must be my VRAM being flooded but even so...
1x Palit RTX 2080Ti Pro Gaming OC(watercooled and overclocked to hell)
3x 3D Vision Ready Asus VG278HE monitors (5760x1080).
Intel i9 9900K (overclocked to 5.3 and watercooled ofc).
Asus Maximus XI Hero Mobo.
16 GB Team Group T-Force Dark Pro DDR4 @ 3600.
Lots of Disks:
- Raid 0 - 256GB Sandisk Extreme SSD.
- Raid 0 - WD Black - 2TB.
- SanDisk SSD PLUS 480 GB.
- Intel 760p 256GB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD.
Creative Sound Blaster Z.
Windows 10 x64 Pro.
etc
I am on windows 7, so will your method help me get better fps at all Helifax or would i need to move to Windows 10?
[quote="necropants"]hmmm Rather mixed results, I do see an improvement in Witcher 3 in surround, but its only a handful of frames and not enough to be an enjoyable experience for me. I am still only getting about 30fps (40 would be tolerable)
Make me once again wonder what sort of graphical settings you are running. We have similar hardware except I am running SLI titans X. What I'd like to know this cause it makes me think there might be something up with my rig or something. Or you are running settings that are much lower than I am to achieve this result.
Also which driver are you using this on? cheers.
As for fallout 4, with your profile. it's unplayable, I actually get some graphics corruption with this profile, where it almost seems like the images are burning into the screen and I see ghosts of previous rendered scenes bled in with my current graphics... pretty wierd.
[/quote]
I am on driver 359.06. In witcher 3 with texture, terrain, folliage visibility, drass density all on ultra, shadows on high, water on high, all post processing at max except SSAO instead of HBAO and depth of field off because I dont like this effect, I in upper close to 50 and drops to lower 40's in cities. Also number of background characters medium and hairworks off. I have all 3 monitors connected to 1st card which is better for performance. (Thanks to Helifax for that trick)
On compatability mode I get rock solid 60 fps. I dont think Witcher 3 is using sli assecond card reads 99% gpu usage mainly.
I also have always opted for the 6 core processes with maximum cache as I have read this helps with sli 3d surround gaming. I usually run 4 cards, and have 2 980ti's in their boxes for the waterblocks in the new year, as they overheat if run next to each other.
I am happy to turn down some minor graphics which dont net you much improved visual fidelity anyway in favour of smooth gameplay.
With the except of Mad Max, most of the latest games including Just cause 3, Fallout 4, Dying Light, Batman Arkham Knight, and Star Wars: Battlefront all have significantly poorer 3d vision surround performance even compared to 2d surround or compatability mode. I think this a driver issue. In all of these games I am getting rock solid 60 fps in compatability mode except Batman Arkahm Knight which is still a steaming mess of a console port.
I am on windows 7, so will your method help me get better fps at all Helifax or would i need to move to Windows 10?
necropants said:hmmm Rather mixed results, I do see an improvement in Witcher 3 in surround, but its only a handful of frames and not enough to be an enjoyable experience for me. I am still only getting about 30fps (40 would be tolerable)
Make me once again wonder what sort of graphical settings you are running. We have similar hardware except I am running SLI titans X. What I'd like to know this cause it makes me think there might be something up with my rig or something. Or you are running settings that are much lower than I am to achieve this result.
Also which driver are you using this on? cheers.
As for fallout 4, with your profile. it's unplayable, I actually get some graphics corruption with this profile, where it almost seems like the images are burning into the screen and I see ghosts of previous rendered scenes bled in with my current graphics... pretty wierd.
I am on driver 359.06. In witcher 3 with texture, terrain, folliage visibility, drass density all on ultra, shadows on high, water on high, all post processing at max except SSAO instead of HBAO and depth of field off because I dont like this effect, I in upper close to 50 and drops to lower 40's in cities. Also number of background characters medium and hairworks off. I have all 3 monitors connected to 1st card which is better for performance. (Thanks to Helifax for that trick)
On compatability mode I get rock solid 60 fps. I dont think Witcher 3 is using sli assecond card reads 99% gpu usage mainly.
I also have always opted for the 6 core processes with maximum cache as I have read this helps with sli 3d surround gaming. I usually run 4 cards, and have 2 980ti's in their boxes for the waterblocks in the new year, as they overheat if run next to each other.
I am happy to turn down some minor graphics which dont net you much improved visual fidelity anyway in favour of smooth gameplay.
With the except of Mad Max, most of the latest games including Just cause 3, Fallout 4, Dying Light, Batman Arkham Knight, and Star Wars: Battlefront all have significantly poorer 3d vision surround performance even compared to 2d surround or compatability mode. I think this a driver issue. In all of these games I am getting rock solid 60 fps in compatability mode except Batman Arkahm Knight which is still a steaming mess of a console port.
Rampage 4 Extreme
4960x oc 4.6 Ghz, H100i watercooler
2080 Ti Sli
Windows 7 Ultimate Edition
5760x1080 PG258Q/2560x1440 PG278Q
[quote="helifax"]You are on Windows 7 right? Or Windows 10?
In Windows 10 SLI breaks (in Surround) if 3D Vision is enabled.
I have tried it with 359.00 and 361.43 drivers. The Fallout4 profile has a wrong SLI flag which I noticed after that it introduces some weird things. The original Profile should be OK 0x080000F5.
In Witcher 3 you get that framerate in 3D Surround or 2D Surround? In 2D Surround you should get around 50-60fps in 3D Surround 25-35 Fps.
As to the results I get 2xFPS in both games compared to the normal profile... from 28 to 56 in Witcher 3 (2D Surround) and 41 to 81 in Fallout4 as shown in the video.
[quote]Then games like star wars battlefront which has pretty superb graphics runs a constant 60fps in 3d surround.
[/quote]
Interesting as I can't run that game at 60fps in 3D Surround;)) I get 30fps in 3D Surround on max resolution and all stuff...Must be my VRAM being flooded but even so...[/quote]
Everything as is in my sig.
I do not think I'll ever be going to windows 10 at this point.
I am playing in 3d surround of course.
Ahh Ok those numbers are about on par with what I am getting. Tested about 28fps in a heavily populated area in Witcher 3. In 2D surround it jumps up to about 50fps
I'm pretty sensitive to low frames and don't like playing in 2D anymore. So I guess I'm heading back to a single screen for witcher 3 again.
I'll check my Fallout profile again tonight.
helifax said:You are on Windows 7 right? Or Windows 10?
In Windows 10 SLI breaks (in Surround) if 3D Vision is enabled.
I have tried it with 359.00 and 361.43 drivers. The Fallout4 profile has a wrong SLI flag which I noticed after that it introduces some weird things. The original Profile should be OK 0x080000F5.
In Witcher 3 you get that framerate in 3D Surround or 2D Surround? In 2D Surround you should get around 50-60fps in 3D Surround 25-35 Fps.
As to the results I get 2xFPS in both games compared to the normal profile... from 28 to 56 in Witcher 3 (2D Surround) and 41 to 81 in Fallout4 as shown in the video.
Then games like star wars battlefront which has pretty superb graphics runs a constant 60fps in 3d surround.
Interesting as I can't run that game at 60fps in 3D Surround;)) I get 30fps in 3D Surround on max resolution and all stuff...Must be my VRAM being flooded but even so...
Everything as is in my sig.
I do not think I'll ever be going to windows 10 at this point.
I am playing in 3d surround of course.
Ahh Ok those numbers are about on par with what I am getting. Tested about 28fps in a heavily populated area in Witcher 3. In 2D surround it jumps up to about 50fps
I'm pretty sensitive to low frames and don't like playing in 2D anymore. So I guess I'm heading back to a single screen for witcher 3 again.
I'll check my Fallout profile again tonight.
i7-4790K CPU 4.8Ghz stable overclock.
16 GB RAM Corsair
EVGA 1080TI SLI
Samsung SSD 840Pro
ASUS Z97-WS
3D Surround ASUS Rog Swift PG278Q(R), 2x PG278Q (yes it works)
Obutto R3volution.
Windows 10 pro 64x (Windows 7 Dual boot)
[quote="necropants"][quote="helifax"]You are on Windows 7 right? Or Windows 10?
In Windows 10 SLI breaks (in Surround) if 3D Vision is enabled.
I have tried it with 359.00 and 361.43 drivers. The Fallout4 profile has a wrong SLI flag which I noticed after that it introduces some weird things. The original Profile should be OK 0x080000F5.
In Witcher 3 you get that framerate in 3D Surround or 2D Surround? In 2D Surround you should get around 50-60fps in 3D Surround 25-35 Fps.
As to the results I get 2xFPS in both games compared to the normal profile... from 28 to 56 in Witcher 3 (2D Surround) and 41 to 81 in Fallout4 as shown in the video.
[quote]Then games like star wars battlefront which has pretty superb graphics runs a constant 60fps in 3d surround.
[/quote]
Interesting as I can't run that game at 60fps in 3D Surround;)) I get 30fps in 3D Surround on max resolution and all stuff...Must be my VRAM being flooded but even so...[/quote]
Everything as is in my sig.
I do not think I'll ever be going to windows 10 at this point.
I am playing in 3d surround of course.
Ahh Ok those numbers are about on par with what I am getting. Tested about 28fps in a heavily populated area in Witcher 3. In 2D surround it jumps up to about 50fps
I'm pretty sensitive to low frames and don't like playing in 2D anymore. So I guess I'm heading back to a single screen for witcher 3 again.
I'll check my Fallout profile again tonight.[/quote]
Up to you:) 30FPS is enough for me in 3D Surround (from 15)... Witcher 3 is not the type of game that requires 60fps IMO (and 30 are more than enough) but..up to you ofc...
If single screen is your thing, then by all means use it;) The above, will help there as well.
helifax said:You are on Windows 7 right? Or Windows 10?
In Windows 10 SLI breaks (in Surround) if 3D Vision is enabled.
I have tried it with 359.00 and 361.43 drivers. The Fallout4 profile has a wrong SLI flag which I noticed after that it introduces some weird things. The original Profile should be OK 0x080000F5.
In Witcher 3 you get that framerate in 3D Surround or 2D Surround? In 2D Surround you should get around 50-60fps in 3D Surround 25-35 Fps.
As to the results I get 2xFPS in both games compared to the normal profile... from 28 to 56 in Witcher 3 (2D Surround) and 41 to 81 in Fallout4 as shown in the video.
Then games like star wars battlefront which has pretty superb graphics runs a constant 60fps in 3d surround.
Interesting as I can't run that game at 60fps in 3D Surround;)) I get 30fps in 3D Surround on max resolution and all stuff...Must be my VRAM being flooded but even so...
Everything as is in my sig.
I do not think I'll ever be going to windows 10 at this point.
I am playing in 3d surround of course.
Ahh Ok those numbers are about on par with what I am getting. Tested about 28fps in a heavily populated area in Witcher 3. In 2D surround it jumps up to about 50fps
I'm pretty sensitive to low frames and don't like playing in 2D anymore. So I guess I'm heading back to a single screen for witcher 3 again.
I'll check my Fallout profile again tonight.
Up to you:) 30FPS is enough for me in 3D Surround (from 15)... Witcher 3 is not the type of game that requires 60fps IMO (and 30 are more than enough) but..up to you ofc...
If single screen is your thing, then by all means use it;) The above, will help there as well.
1x Palit RTX 2080Ti Pro Gaming OC(watercooled and overclocked to hell)
3x 3D Vision Ready Asus VG278HE monitors (5760x1080).
Intel i9 9900K (overclocked to 5.3 and watercooled ofc).
Asus Maximus XI Hero Mobo.
16 GB Team Group T-Force Dark Pro DDR4 @ 3600.
Lots of Disks:
- Raid 0 - 256GB Sandisk Extreme SSD.
- Raid 0 - WD Black - 2TB.
- SanDisk SSD PLUS 480 GB.
- Intel 760p 256GB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD.
Creative Sound Blaster Z.
Windows 10 x64 Pro.
etc
Yeah I get that and I know its a pretty debated topic and some people consider it an elitist attitude but I definitely feel a game-play difference and find it not as enjoyable. Yes it's playable... If it's locked at 30 then I find it ok sometimes but the fluctuations are really jarring and I can't handle it. Especially when I tend to play games on the highest difficulty setting. I was jumping down to 24 at times which is not acceptable for me.
I have pretty much relegated 3d surround to FPS and driving titles. For games like witcher I'd prefer just to have maximum graphics and a lucious smooth 60fps on a single screen.
Each to his own.
Still thanks for the work on this, it means I can enjoy that constant 60fps in 3d vision and the experience in Witcher 3 at maximum detail is breathtaking.
Yeah I get that and I know its a pretty debated topic and some people consider it an elitist attitude but I definitely feel a game-play difference and find it not as enjoyable. Yes it's playable... If it's locked at 30 then I find it ok sometimes but the fluctuations are really jarring and I can't handle it. Especially when I tend to play games on the highest difficulty setting. I was jumping down to 24 at times which is not acceptable for me.
I have pretty much relegated 3d surround to FPS and driving titles. For games like witcher I'd prefer just to have maximum graphics and a lucious smooth 60fps on a single screen.
Each to his own.
Still thanks for the work on this, it means I can enjoy that constant 60fps in 3d vision and the experience in Witcher 3 at maximum detail is breathtaking.
i7-4790K CPU 4.8Ghz stable overclock.
16 GB RAM Corsair
EVGA 1080TI SLI
Samsung SSD 840Pro
ASUS Z97-WS
3D Surround ASUS Rog Swift PG278Q(R), 2x PG278Q (yes it works)
Obutto R3volution.
Windows 10 pro 64x (Windows 7 Dual boot)
Hiya Helifax!
I gave it a try in Witcher 3 (don't have Fallout 4 yet). Doesn't seem to have much of an effect on my single monitor 3D 1440p compared to the profile that's still posted at Helix Mod at the moment. Possibly a couple of fps better, though with all the fluctuation I get it's pretty hard to confirm. Definitely didn't hurt anything though.
Thanks tons for continuing to work on it though. The work you guys do is amazing and I'm frankly at the point where I don't even bother starting any game in 3D to see what it looks like without fixes before installing them.
I gave it a try in Witcher 3 (don't have Fallout 4 yet). Doesn't seem to have much of an effect on my single monitor 3D 1440p compared to the profile that's still posted at Helix Mod at the moment. Possibly a couple of fps better, though with all the fluctuation I get it's pretty hard to confirm. Definitely didn't hurt anything though.
Thanks tons for continuing to work on it though. The work you guys do is amazing and I'm frankly at the point where I don't even bother starting any game in 3D to see what it looks like without fixes before installing them.
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Overclocks:
Processor: 4.4 GHz adaptive (1.296v under load), LLC7 input 1.92v
Processor Cache: 4.2 GHz offset +0.27v (max 1.212v under load)
Memory: 2666 15-15-15-35-CR2 oc'd to 3000 15-15-15-35-CR1 at 1.38v
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@Qwinn:
Well, yeah I see you already have 2x980Ti in SLI. On one screen even one card will give you 60 FPS;)) I also noticed that the difference on a single screen between profiles is not that big but is double in Surround. I expect at 4K it will also be a big difference;)
In any case I found it out and wanted to share it instead of keeping it to myself;) For me it makes a huge difference since I am using Surround;)
Well, yeah I see you already have 2x980Ti in SLI. On one screen even one card will give you 60 FPS;)) I also noticed that the difference on a single screen between profiles is not that big but is double in Surround. I expect at 4K it will also be a big difference;)
In any case I found it out and wanted to share it instead of keeping it to myself;) For me it makes a huge difference since I am using Surround;)
1x Palit RTX 2080Ti Pro Gaming OC(watercooled and overclocked to hell)
3x 3D Vision Ready Asus VG278HE monitors (5760x1080).
Intel i9 9900K (overclocked to 5.3 and watercooled ofc).
Asus Maximus XI Hero Mobo.
16 GB Team Group T-Force Dark Pro DDR4 @ 3600.
Lots of Disks:
- Raid 0 - 256GB Sandisk Extreme SSD.
- Raid 0 - WD Black - 2TB.
- SanDisk SSD PLUS 480 GB.
- Intel 760p 256GB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD.
Creative Sound Blaster Z.
Windows 10 x64 Pro.
etc
Big thanks Helifax for sharing this info that is awesome!!, finally i can play witcher 3 in surround 3D :)), with your flags i got 45-50 fps (5040x1050) without it i got 30-35fps and micro shuttering. Now i lock the game to 40 fps and is stable. My body is ready for Temeria :)))
How do you discover this??? :O
PD: btw merry christmas ;))
Big thanks Helifax for sharing this info that is awesome!!, finally i can play witcher 3 in surround 3D :)), with your flags i got 45-50 fps (5040x1050) without it i got 30-35fps and micro shuttering. Now i lock the game to 40 fps and is stable. My body is ready for Temeria :)))
How do you discover this??? :O
PD: btw merry christmas ;))
i7 4970k@4.5Ghz, SLI GTX1080Ti Aorus Gigabyte Xtreme, 16GB G Skill 2400hrz, 3*PG258Q in 3D surround.
[quote="murilladas"]
How do you discover this??? :O
[/quote]
Now THAT is the question;))
"The Dark Side leads to many talents, some considered unnatural" (Don't remember if is the exact SAME quote ^_^)
Basically:
- Comparing profiles (new and old)
- Some reverse engineering
- Trial and error
One of the flags I found in the updated SW:Battlefield profile. Without it there is heavy flickering, but SLI works. The other one I found in another profile (can't remember which). Then I went to a lot of trial and error. Finally I compared results from different drivers and made a few GPU profilers tests;)
There are quite a few "mystery" flags out there that are not exposed in the NvPanel, nor Nvidia Inspector, because no-one knows waht they do....
To bad Nvidia doesn't document them properly:( Their drivers are more advanced and mature than many of us are let to believe:(
Really glad that it works for you as well!
Cheers and Merry Christmas;)
Now THAT is the question;))
"The Dark Side leads to many talents, some considered unnatural" (Don't remember if is the exact SAME quote ^_^)
Basically:
- Comparing profiles (new and old)
- Some reverse engineering
- Trial and error
One of the flags I found in the updated SW:Battlefield profile. Without it there is heavy flickering, but SLI works. The other one I found in another profile (can't remember which). Then I went to a lot of trial and error. Finally I compared results from different drivers and made a few GPU profilers tests;)
There are quite a few "mystery" flags out there that are not exposed in the NvPanel, nor Nvidia Inspector, because no-one knows waht they do....
To bad Nvidia doesn't document them properly:( Their drivers are more advanced and mature than many of us are let to believe:(
Really glad that it works for you as well!
Cheers and Merry Christmas;)
1x Palit RTX 2080Ti Pro Gaming OC(watercooled and overclocked to hell)
3x 3D Vision Ready Asus VG278HE monitors (5760x1080).
Intel i9 9900K (overclocked to 5.3 and watercooled ofc).
Asus Maximus XI Hero Mobo.
16 GB Team Group T-Force Dark Pro DDR4 @ 3600.
Lots of Disks:
- Raid 0 - 256GB Sandisk Extreme SSD.
- Raid 0 - WD Black - 2TB.
- SanDisk SSD PLUS 480 GB.
- Intel 760p 256GB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD.
Creative Sound Blaster Z.
Windows 10 x64 Pro.
etc
Much better performance after correcting the SLI flag in fallout 4 thanks Helifax.
i7-4790K CPU 4.8Ghz stable overclock.
16 GB RAM Corsair
EVGA 1080TI SLI
Samsung SSD 840Pro
ASUS Z97-WS
3D Surround ASUS Rog Swift PG278Q(R), 2x PG278Q (yes it works)
Obutto R3volution.
Windows 10 pro 64x (Windows 7 Dual boot)
@helifax, Thank you on this. Tomorrow night I get to load fallout4 to my surround box :-)
Had the family over and blew them away with my 5360 Projector and the fixes that have been achieved, and gave credit where credit was due, you guys!
Thanks again and Merry Christmas :-)
Been playing with the drivers & profiles in the last couple of days. Been doing some "RE" and discovered 2 mystery flags that give proper SLI scaling in both Witcher3 and Fallout4.
I made the original POST in the SLI thread as this is SLI related. HOWEVER! 3D Vision users will benefit the most, especially 3D Surround Users.
I am not going to re-post the whole thread here, but here is the LINK:
https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/904942/sli/-sli-surround-3d-vision-enabling-proper-sli-support-in-games-like-fallout4-witcher3-and-others-/
So, in FL4 from 40FPS (2D) and 20 FPS (3D) I got to 80FPS(2D) and 40FPS (3D) in 3D Surround (5760x1080)!!!
I decided to post this here as well, as I "require" this boost for 3D Vision (and expect others as well).
Currently there is a BUG in the driver in Windows 10, and SLI is broken in 3D Vision Surround. Works correctly in Single Monitor SLI though;)
More info here:
https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/904579/geforce-drivers/official-361-43-game-ready-whql-display-driver-feedback-thread-12-21-15-/post/4761727/#4761727
This should also APPLY to Just Cause 3 I expect (but don't have the game). So, if someone can try and report back would be awesome!!!
Cheers,
Helifax
1x Palit RTX 2080Ti Pro Gaming OC(watercooled and overclocked to hell)
3x 3D Vision Ready Asus VG278HE monitors (5760x1080).
Intel i9 9900K (overclocked to 5.3 and watercooled ofc).
Asus Maximus XI Hero Mobo.
16 GB Team Group T-Force Dark Pro DDR4 @ 3600.
Lots of Disks:
- Raid 0 - 256GB Sandisk Extreme SSD.
- Raid 0 - WD Black - 2TB.
- SanDisk SSD PLUS 480 GB.
- Intel 760p 256GB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD.
Creative Sound Blaster Z.
Windows 10 x64 Pro.
etc
My website with my fixes and OpenGL to 3D Vision wrapper:
http://3dsurroundgaming.com
(If you like some of the stuff that I've done and want to donate something, you can do it with PayPal at tavyhome@gmail.com)
Using 3d vision surround with 980 ti sli in windows 7. I notice that in multiple games 3d vision performance has been poor except mad max (with 3d fix) were i get 60fps in 3d surround.
However in Witcher 3 I used compatability mode with adjusted convergence to get better depth and managed 60fps in 5760 x 1080 on high settings, as real 3d I would average +- 35 fps. Even in games like Far Cry 4 real 3d gest 30 fps and comatability mode 60 fps in 3d surround. EVGA precision seems not to be reporting sli gpu useage accurately as often says 99% for both gpu's on the newer games. I suspect this is an issue with drivers affecting sli in real 3d.
I will try your method on Witcher 3 and Fallout 4 as well and report back if I see performance gains.
It seem that compatability mode works better in surround for some reason compared to if I switch to single screen.
I am currently hooked on Just Cause 3 were I am getting in the high 50 to 60fps with smooth gameplay on almost max settings in 3d surround even though sli doesnt seem to be working properly.
Rampage 4 Extreme
4960x oc 4.6 Ghz, H100i watercooler
2080 Ti Sli
Windows 7 Ultimate Edition
5760x1080 PG258Q/2560x1440 PG278Q
Then games like star wars battlefront which has pretty superb graphics runs a constant 60fps in 3d surround.
Will be fantastic if this works for me with witcher 3
i7-4790K CPU 4.8Ghz stable overclock.
16 GB RAM Corsair
EVGA 1080TI SLI
Samsung SSD 840Pro
ASUS Z97-WS
3D Surround ASUS Rog Swift PG278Q(R), 2x PG278Q (yes it works)
Obutto R3volution.
Windows 10 pro 64x (Windows 7 Dual boot)
Make me once again wonder what sort of graphical settings you are running. We have similar hardware except I am running SLI titans X. What I'd like to know this cause it makes me think there might be something up with my rig or something. Or you are running settings that are much lower than I am to achieve this result.
Also which driver are you using this on? cheers.
As for fallout 4, with your profile. it's unplayable, I actually get some graphics corruption with this profile, where it almost seems like the images are burning into the screen and I see ghosts of previous rendered scenes bled in with my current graphics... pretty wierd.
i7-4790K CPU 4.8Ghz stable overclock.
16 GB RAM Corsair
EVGA 1080TI SLI
Samsung SSD 840Pro
ASUS Z97-WS
3D Surround ASUS Rog Swift PG278Q(R), 2x PG278Q (yes it works)
Obutto R3volution.
Windows 10 pro 64x (Windows 7 Dual boot)
In Windows 10 SLI breaks (in Surround) if 3D Vision is enabled.
I have tried it with 359.00 and 361.43 drivers. The Fallout4 profile has a wrong SLI flag which I noticed after that it introduces some weird things. The original Profile should be OK 0x080000F5.
In Witcher 3 you get that framerate in 3D Surround or 2D Surround? In 2D Surround you should get around 50-60fps in 3D Surround 25-35 Fps.
As to the results I get 2xFPS in both games compared to the normal profile... from 28 to 56 in Witcher 3 (2D Surround) and 41 to 81 in Fallout4 as shown in the video.
Interesting as I can't run that game at 60fps in 3D Surround;)) I get 30fps in 3D Surround on max resolution and all stuff...Must be my VRAM being flooded but even so...
1x Palit RTX 2080Ti Pro Gaming OC(watercooled and overclocked to hell)
3x 3D Vision Ready Asus VG278HE monitors (5760x1080).
Intel i9 9900K (overclocked to 5.3 and watercooled ofc).
Asus Maximus XI Hero Mobo.
16 GB Team Group T-Force Dark Pro DDR4 @ 3600.
Lots of Disks:
- Raid 0 - 256GB Sandisk Extreme SSD.
- Raid 0 - WD Black - 2TB.
- SanDisk SSD PLUS 480 GB.
- Intel 760p 256GB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD.
Creative Sound Blaster Z.
Windows 10 x64 Pro.
etc
My website with my fixes and OpenGL to 3D Vision wrapper:
http://3dsurroundgaming.com
(If you like some of the stuff that I've done and want to donate something, you can do it with PayPal at tavyhome@gmail.com)
I am on driver 359.06. In witcher 3 with texture, terrain, folliage visibility, drass density all on ultra, shadows on high, water on high, all post processing at max except SSAO instead of HBAO and depth of field off because I dont like this effect, I in upper close to 50 and drops to lower 40's in cities. Also number of background characters medium and hairworks off. I have all 3 monitors connected to 1st card which is better for performance. (Thanks to Helifax for that trick)
On compatability mode I get rock solid 60 fps. I dont think Witcher 3 is using sli assecond card reads 99% gpu usage mainly.
I also have always opted for the 6 core processes with maximum cache as I have read this helps with sli 3d surround gaming. I usually run 4 cards, and have 2 980ti's in their boxes for the waterblocks in the new year, as they overheat if run next to each other.
I am happy to turn down some minor graphics which dont net you much improved visual fidelity anyway in favour of smooth gameplay.
With the except of Mad Max, most of the latest games including Just cause 3, Fallout 4, Dying Light, Batman Arkham Knight, and Star Wars: Battlefront all have significantly poorer 3d vision surround performance even compared to 2d surround or compatability mode. I think this a driver issue. In all of these games I am getting rock solid 60 fps in compatability mode except Batman Arkahm Knight which is still a steaming mess of a console port.
Rampage 4 Extreme
4960x oc 4.6 Ghz, H100i watercooler
2080 Ti Sli
Windows 7 Ultimate Edition
5760x1080 PG258Q/2560x1440 PG278Q
Everything as is in my sig.
I do not think I'll ever be going to windows 10 at this point.
I am playing in 3d surround of course.
Ahh Ok those numbers are about on par with what I am getting. Tested about 28fps in a heavily populated area in Witcher 3. In 2D surround it jumps up to about 50fps
I'm pretty sensitive to low frames and don't like playing in 2D anymore. So I guess I'm heading back to a single screen for witcher 3 again.
I'll check my Fallout profile again tonight.
i7-4790K CPU 4.8Ghz stable overclock.
16 GB RAM Corsair
EVGA 1080TI SLI
Samsung SSD 840Pro
ASUS Z97-WS
3D Surround ASUS Rog Swift PG278Q(R), 2x PG278Q (yes it works)
Obutto R3volution.
Windows 10 pro 64x (Windows 7 Dual boot)
Up to you:) 30FPS is enough for me in 3D Surround (from 15)... Witcher 3 is not the type of game that requires 60fps IMO (and 30 are more than enough) but..up to you ofc...
If single screen is your thing, then by all means use it;) The above, will help there as well.
1x Palit RTX 2080Ti Pro Gaming OC(watercooled and overclocked to hell)
3x 3D Vision Ready Asus VG278HE monitors (5760x1080).
Intel i9 9900K (overclocked to 5.3 and watercooled ofc).
Asus Maximus XI Hero Mobo.
16 GB Team Group T-Force Dark Pro DDR4 @ 3600.
Lots of Disks:
- Raid 0 - 256GB Sandisk Extreme SSD.
- Raid 0 - WD Black - 2TB.
- SanDisk SSD PLUS 480 GB.
- Intel 760p 256GB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD.
Creative Sound Blaster Z.
Windows 10 x64 Pro.
etc
My website with my fixes and OpenGL to 3D Vision wrapper:
http://3dsurroundgaming.com
(If you like some of the stuff that I've done and want to donate something, you can do it with PayPal at tavyhome@gmail.com)
I have pretty much relegated 3d surround to FPS and driving titles. For games like witcher I'd prefer just to have maximum graphics and a lucious smooth 60fps on a single screen.
Each to his own.
Still thanks for the work on this, it means I can enjoy that constant 60fps in 3d vision and the experience in Witcher 3 at maximum detail is breathtaking.
i7-4790K CPU 4.8Ghz stable overclock.
16 GB RAM Corsair
EVGA 1080TI SLI
Samsung SSD 840Pro
ASUS Z97-WS
3D Surround ASUS Rog Swift PG278Q(R), 2x PG278Q (yes it works)
Obutto R3volution.
Windows 10 pro 64x (Windows 7 Dual boot)
I gave it a try in Witcher 3 (don't have Fallout 4 yet). Doesn't seem to have much of an effect on my single monitor 3D 1440p compared to the profile that's still posted at Helix Mod at the moment. Possibly a couple of fps better, though with all the fluctuation I get it's pretty hard to confirm. Definitely didn't hurt anything though.
Thanks tons for continuing to work on it though. The work you guys do is amazing and I'm frankly at the point where I don't even bother starting any game in 3D to see what it looks like without fixes before installing them.
CPU: Intel Core i7-5930K
Cooler: Thermaltake Water 3.0 Ultimate
Motherboard: Asus RAMPAGE V EXTREME, BIOS 2101
Memory: G.Skill 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-2666
Storage: Intel 750 Series 1.2TB PCI-E SSD
Storage: Sandisk Ultra II 960GB 2.5" SSD
Video: 2x Gigabyte Gaming G1 980 Ti in SLI, Driver 362.00
Case: Thermaltake Core V71 Full Tower
Power Supply: EVGA Supernova P2 1200W 80+ Platinum
Monitor: ROG SWIFT PG278Q 120Hz 27.0" running 1440p in 3DVision
OS: Windows 10 Pro x64 Build 10586
Overclocks:
Processor: 4.4 GHz adaptive (1.296v under load), LLC7 input 1.92v
Processor Cache: 4.2 GHz offset +0.27v (max 1.212v under load)
Memory: 2666 15-15-15-35-CR2 oc'd to 3000 15-15-15-35-CR1 at 1.38v
GPU SLI: Stock voltage, 1455 MHz, 8000Mhz memory
Well, yeah I see you already have 2x980Ti in SLI. On one screen even one card will give you 60 FPS;)) I also noticed that the difference on a single screen between profiles is not that big but is double in Surround. I expect at 4K it will also be a big difference;)
In any case I found it out and wanted to share it instead of keeping it to myself;) For me it makes a huge difference since I am using Surround;)
1x Palit RTX 2080Ti Pro Gaming OC(watercooled and overclocked to hell)
3x 3D Vision Ready Asus VG278HE monitors (5760x1080).
Intel i9 9900K (overclocked to 5.3 and watercooled ofc).
Asus Maximus XI Hero Mobo.
16 GB Team Group T-Force Dark Pro DDR4 @ 3600.
Lots of Disks:
- Raid 0 - 256GB Sandisk Extreme SSD.
- Raid 0 - WD Black - 2TB.
- SanDisk SSD PLUS 480 GB.
- Intel 760p 256GB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD.
Creative Sound Blaster Z.
Windows 10 x64 Pro.
etc
My website with my fixes and OpenGL to 3D Vision wrapper:
http://3dsurroundgaming.com
(If you like some of the stuff that I've done and want to donate something, you can do it with PayPal at tavyhome@gmail.com)
How do you discover this??? :O
PD: btw merry christmas ;))
i7 4970k@4.5Ghz, SLI GTX1080Ti Aorus Gigabyte Xtreme, 16GB G Skill 2400hrz, 3*PG258Q in 3D surround.
Now THAT is the question;))
"The Dark Side leads to many talents, some considered unnatural" (Don't remember if is the exact SAME quote ^_^)
Basically:
- Comparing profiles (new and old)
- Some reverse engineering
- Trial and error
One of the flags I found in the updated SW:Battlefield profile. Without it there is heavy flickering, but SLI works. The other one I found in another profile (can't remember which). Then I went to a lot of trial and error. Finally I compared results from different drivers and made a few GPU profilers tests;)
There are quite a few "mystery" flags out there that are not exposed in the NvPanel, nor Nvidia Inspector, because no-one knows waht they do....
To bad Nvidia doesn't document them properly:( Their drivers are more advanced and mature than many of us are let to believe:(
Really glad that it works for you as well!
Cheers and Merry Christmas;)
1x Palit RTX 2080Ti Pro Gaming OC(watercooled and overclocked to hell)
3x 3D Vision Ready Asus VG278HE monitors (5760x1080).
Intel i9 9900K (overclocked to 5.3 and watercooled ofc).
Asus Maximus XI Hero Mobo.
16 GB Team Group T-Force Dark Pro DDR4 @ 3600.
Lots of Disks:
- Raid 0 - 256GB Sandisk Extreme SSD.
- Raid 0 - WD Black - 2TB.
- SanDisk SSD PLUS 480 GB.
- Intel 760p 256GB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD.
Creative Sound Blaster Z.
Windows 10 x64 Pro.
etc
My website with my fixes and OpenGL to 3D Vision wrapper:
http://3dsurroundgaming.com
(If you like some of the stuff that I've done and want to donate something, you can do it with PayPal at tavyhome@gmail.com)
i7-4790K CPU 4.8Ghz stable overclock.
16 GB RAM Corsair
EVGA 1080TI SLI
Samsung SSD 840Pro
ASUS Z97-WS
3D Surround ASUS Rog Swift PG278Q(R), 2x PG278Q (yes it works)
Obutto R3volution.
Windows 10 pro 64x (Windows 7 Dual boot)
Had the family over and blew them away with my 5360 Projector and the fixes that have been achieved, and gave credit where credit was due, you guys!
Thanks again and Merry Christmas :-)