Official Thread: 3D Vision 2 and 3D LightBoost Feel free to ask me questions
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We all know that tech moves forward and there is a risk when you buy. But when you spend $700 on what is supposed to be the best 3d pc option available, it would be nice if your investment was not obsolete after 3 months. All which could have been avoided by Nvidia simply letting customers know that an upgrade was in the works, many companies release such info to build customer product awareness and excitement. Then you can make an informed decision to buy now or later. Evga has a step up program for this very reason so that customers are treated fairly on costly purchases. On the other hand, Nvidia really does not care, except separating you from as much of your money as possible, the Witcher 2 thread is enough proof of that.. So if a bunch of you go out and buy the Asus lightboost monitor for $700 and then in three months Nvidia introduces new 3d tech with no advance warning, tell me you would not be pissed.
We all know that tech moves forward and there is a risk when you buy. But when you spend $700 on what is supposed to be the best 3d pc option available, it would be nice if your investment was not obsolete after 3 months. All which could have been avoided by Nvidia simply letting customers know that an upgrade was in the works, many companies release such info to build customer product awareness and excitement. Then you can make an informed decision to buy now or later. Evga has a step up program for this very reason so that customers are treated fairly on costly purchases. On the other hand, Nvidia really does not care, except separating you from as much of your money as possible, the Witcher 2 thread is enough proof of that.. So if a bunch of you go out and buy the Asus lightboost monitor for $700 and then in three months Nvidia introduces new 3d tech with no advance warning, tell me you would not be pissed.
[quote name='andrewf@nvidia' date='18 October 2011 - 11:52 AM' timestamp='1318956764' post='1309904']
Hi All
I was at GeForce LAN 6 this past week so I couldn't post any threads on it.
I saw some threads already so I wanted to start this one.
If you have any questions, please feel free to ask here.
[/quote]
I'm interested to know if the crosstalk on the new ASUS VG278H is improved, if so, by how much?
Many people told me that the Acer HN274H was a very good 3D monitor, but the crosstalk was both annoying and highly visible in just about every game I played, even with recommended monitor setting tweaks all over the internet. I just shipped my Acer HN274H back to newegg for a refund because I saw you guys releasing the ASUS VG278H and in the promotion picture I saw was *Reduced 3D Ghosting / Crosstalk!*.
In short, is crosstalk visible still? How much improved over the Acer HN274H? Is it still more noticeable on the top/bottom of the monitor then it is in the middle (If crosstalk is still noticable)
I'd like to hear what you have to say about this matter before I buy another monitor and have to send it back to newegg from hawaii at $85 shipping.
[quote name='andrewf@nvidia' date='18 October 2011 - 11:52 AM' timestamp='1318956764' post='1309904']
Hi All
I was at GeForce LAN 6 this past week so I couldn't post any threads on it.
I saw some threads already so I wanted to start this one.
If you have any questions, please feel free to ask here.
I'm interested to know if the crosstalk on the new ASUS VG278H is improved, if so, by how much?
Many people told me that the Acer HN274H was a very good 3D monitor, but the crosstalk was both annoying and highly visible in just about every game I played, even with recommended monitor setting tweaks all over the internet. I just shipped my Acer HN274H back to newegg for a refund because I saw you guys releasing the ASUS VG278H and in the promotion picture I saw was *Reduced 3D Ghosting / Crosstalk!*.
In short, is crosstalk visible still? How much improved over the Acer HN274H? Is it still more noticeable on the top/bottom of the monitor then it is in the middle (If crosstalk is still noticable)
I'd like to hear what you have to say about this matter before I buy another monitor and have to send it back to newegg from hawaii at $85 shipping.
Thank you.
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Andrew, were there any medical tests of 3D LightBoost? IMHO, sending 60 double-brightness flashes per second to an eye isn't a health upgrade.
Also, did i misunderstood or was it said that brightness adjusts when there's no ghosting on a screen? Could you please tell more on this matter: how is it detected that no ghosting is present, and wouldn't it mean that brightness is adjusted for a short periods, in scenes with less potential ghosting?
Andrew, were there any medical tests of 3D LightBoost? IMHO, sending 60 double-brightness flashes per second to an eye isn't a health upgrade.
Also, did i misunderstood or was it said that brightness adjusts when there's no ghosting on a screen? Could you please tell more on this matter: how is it detected that no ghosting is present, and wouldn't it mean that brightness is adjusted for a short periods, in scenes with less potential ghosting?
[quote name='Kassab' date='21 October 2011 - 06:13 PM' timestamp='1319238804' post='1311643']
Andrew, were there any medical tests of 3D LightBoost? IMHO, sending 60 double-brightness flashes per second to an eye isn't a health upgrade.
Also, did i misunderstood or was it said that brightness adjusts when there's no ghosting on a screen? Could you please tell more on this matter: how is it detected that no ghosting is present, and wouldn't it mean that brightness is adjusted for a short periods, in scenes with less potential ghosting?
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As with all electronic monitor equipment, the only real danger is tired eyes (Aka, take a break) and in rare cases can invoke epileptic seizures (For people who have epilepsy of course)
Outside of that, the brightness of a monitor pales in comparison to many other light sources you encounter on a day to day basis. There are no health risks.
[quote name='Kassab' date='21 October 2011 - 06:13 PM' timestamp='1319238804' post='1311643']
Andrew, were there any medical tests of 3D LightBoost? IMHO, sending 60 double-brightness flashes per second to an eye isn't a health upgrade.
Also, did i misunderstood or was it said that brightness adjusts when there's no ghosting on a screen? Could you please tell more on this matter: how is it detected that no ghosting is present, and wouldn't it mean that brightness is adjusted for a short periods, in scenes with less potential ghosting?
As with all electronic monitor equipment, the only real danger is tired eyes (Aka, take a break) and in rare cases can invoke epileptic seizures (For people who have epilepsy of course)
Outside of that, the brightness of a monitor pales in comparison to many other light sources you encounter on a day to day basis. There are no health risks.
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[quote name='Kassab' date='22 October 2011 - 01:13 AM' timestamp='1319238804' post='1311643']
Andrew, were there any medical tests of 3D LightBoost? IMHO, sending 60 double-brightness flashes per second to an eye isn't a health upgrade.[/quote]
LED TVs with a pulsating backplane are doing that for a while now. This technique hasn't been invented for 3D.
[quote name='Gallus85' date='22 October 2011 - 03:07 AM' timestamp='1319242035' post='1311654']
Outside of that, the brightness of a monitor pales in comparison to many other light sources you encounter on a day to day basis. There are no health risks.
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I'm pretty sure you don't stare at more bright light sources for longer than a second. And you will even avoid to have them in peripheral vision. That's a protective reflex.
Did you try to look at too bright display for a long time? It surely looks dangerous. And here we have shutter glasses, which darken the image 60 times a second, so they mask too bright light with blackouts. But still these are very bright flashes. For now my display adjusts brightness when 3D Vision is activated - and becomes so bright that it's really hard for me to look at it with a naked eye. If it will become even brighter with 3D LightBoost - i'm seriously afraid for my eyes, i don't want to go sleep with a Geralt print on my retina or maybe even wake up with it still there.
[quote name='Gallus85' date='22 October 2011 - 03:07 AM' timestamp='1319242035' post='1311654']
Outside of that, the brightness of a monitor pales in comparison to many other light sources you encounter on a day to day basis. There are no health risks.
I'm pretty sure you don't stare at more bright light sources for longer than a second. And you will even avoid to have them in peripheral vision. That's a protective reflex.
Did you try to look at too bright display for a long time? It surely looks dangerous. And here we have shutter glasses, which darken the image 60 times a second, so they mask too bright light with blackouts. But still these are very bright flashes. For now my display adjusts brightness when 3D Vision is activated - and becomes so bright that it's really hard for me to look at it with a naked eye. If it will become even brighter with 3D LightBoost - i'm seriously afraid for my eyes, i don't want to go sleep with a Geralt print on my retina or maybe even wake up with it still there.
[quote name='Grestorn' date='22 October 2011 - 09:26 AM' timestamp='1319264767' post='1311732']
LED TVs with a pulsating backplane are doing that for a while now. This technique hasn't been invented for 3D.
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Do LED displays darken 60 times a second so you don't actually understand that the brightness is high?
[quote name='Kassab' date='22 October 2011 - 01:45 AM' timestamp='1319265909' post='1311735']
I'm pretty sure you don't stare at more bright light sources for longer than a second. And you will even avoid to have them in peripheral vision. That's a protective reflex.
Did you try to look at too bright display for a long time? It surely looks dangerous. And here we have shutter glasses, which darken the image 60 times a second, so they mask too bright light with blackouts. But still these are very bright flashes. For now my display adjusts brightness when 3D Vision is activated - and becomes so bright that it's really hard for me to look at it with a naked eye. If it will become even brighter with 3D LightBoost - i'm seriously afraid for my eyes, i don't want to go sleep with a Geralt print on my retina or maybe even wake up with it still there.
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You misunderstand me.
by "bright light sources" I was referring to normal daily activities.
Casual exposure to Daylight is much more harmful to your eyes then staring at the brightest monitor on maximum brightness levels at 1 inch away from your face.
Simply put, monitors pose no health risks outside of seizures (For people who have epilepsy) and eye fatigue (Caused from not taking a break, worst side effects are tired feeling eyes or headaches, cured by, you guessed it, taking a break, and can cause absolutely no long term damage) *Eye sight naturally decreases in humans as a normal part of aging process*. It is not caused from "reading too much" or "looking at video screens".
If you'd like more detailed explination on how human eye works feel free to use [url="http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Human+Eye"]This Resource[/url]. It has a lot of information to help you not sound uneducated before you post.
[quote name='Kassab' date='22 October 2011 - 01:45 AM' timestamp='1319265909' post='1311735']
I'm pretty sure you don't stare at more bright light sources for longer than a second. And you will even avoid to have them in peripheral vision. That's a protective reflex.
Did you try to look at too bright display for a long time? It surely looks dangerous. And here we have shutter glasses, which darken the image 60 times a second, so they mask too bright light with blackouts. But still these are very bright flashes. For now my display adjusts brightness when 3D Vision is activated - and becomes so bright that it's really hard for me to look at it with a naked eye. If it will become even brighter with 3D LightBoost - i'm seriously afraid for my eyes, i don't want to go sleep with a Geralt print on my retina or maybe even wake up with it still there.
You misunderstand me.
by "bright light sources" I was referring to normal daily activities.
Casual exposure to Daylight is much more harmful to your eyes then staring at the brightest monitor on maximum brightness levels at 1 inch away from your face.
Simply put, monitors pose no health risks outside of seizures (For people who have epilepsy) and eye fatigue (Caused from not taking a break, worst side effects are tired feeling eyes or headaches, cured by, you guessed it, taking a break, and can cause absolutely no long term damage) *Eye sight naturally decreases in humans as a normal part of aging process*. It is not caused from "reading too much" or "looking at video screens".
If you'd like more detailed explination on how human eye works feel free to use This Resource. It has a lot of information to help you not sound uneducated before you post.
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[quote name='RABID666' date='20 October 2011 - 11:22 AM' timestamp='1319127745' post='1310986']
what about projectors and the new glasses? will there be any with lightboost?
[/quote]
Hi
We have nothing to announce regarding 3D Vision 2 and projectors.
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Hi All
I was at GeForce LAN 6 this past week so I couldn't post any threads on it.
I saw some threads already so I wanted to start this one.
If you have any questions, please feel free to ask here.
[/quote]
I'm interested to know if the crosstalk on the new ASUS VG278H is improved, if so, by how much?
Many people told me that the Acer HN274H was a very good 3D monitor, but the crosstalk was both annoying and highly visible in just about every game I played, even with recommended monitor setting tweaks all over the internet. I just shipped my Acer HN274H back to newegg for a refund because I saw you guys releasing the ASUS VG278H and in the promotion picture I saw was *Reduced 3D Ghosting / Crosstalk!*.
In short, is crosstalk visible still? How much improved over the Acer HN274H? Is it still more noticeable on the top/bottom of the monitor then it is in the middle (If crosstalk is still noticable)
I'd like to hear what you have to say about this matter before I buy another monitor and have to send it back to newegg from hawaii at $85 shipping.
Thank you.
Hi All
I was at GeForce LAN 6 this past week so I couldn't post any threads on it.
I saw some threads already so I wanted to start this one.
If you have any questions, please feel free to ask here.
I'm interested to know if the crosstalk on the new ASUS VG278H is improved, if so, by how much?
Many people told me that the Acer HN274H was a very good 3D monitor, but the crosstalk was both annoying and highly visible in just about every game I played, even with recommended monitor setting tweaks all over the internet. I just shipped my Acer HN274H back to newegg for a refund because I saw you guys releasing the ASUS VG278H and in the promotion picture I saw was *Reduced 3D Ghosting / Crosstalk!*.
In short, is crosstalk visible still? How much improved over the Acer HN274H? Is it still more noticeable on the top/bottom of the monitor then it is in the middle (If crosstalk is still noticable)
I'd like to hear what you have to say about this matter before I buy another monitor and have to send it back to newegg from hawaii at $85 shipping.
Thank you.
ASUS Sabertooth Z77 | i5 3570k @ 4.5ghz | 8Gb (2x4Gb) DDR3 1600 | 2x 770 GTX in SLI | 256gb SATA III SSD OCZ Agility | Corsair 1050HX PSU | Corsair 800D Full Tower case
Also, did i misunderstood or was it said that brightness adjusts when there's no ghosting on a screen? Could you please tell more on this matter: how is it detected that no ghosting is present, and wouldn't it mean that brightness is adjusted for a short periods, in scenes with less potential ghosting?
Also, did i misunderstood or was it said that brightness adjusts when there's no ghosting on a screen? Could you please tell more on this matter: how is it detected that no ghosting is present, and wouldn't it mean that brightness is adjusted for a short periods, in scenes with less potential ghosting?
Andrew, were there any medical tests of 3D LightBoost? IMHO, sending 60 double-brightness flashes per second to an eye isn't a health upgrade.
Also, did i misunderstood or was it said that brightness adjusts when there's no ghosting on a screen? Could you please tell more on this matter: how is it detected that no ghosting is present, and wouldn't it mean that brightness is adjusted for a short periods, in scenes with less potential ghosting?
[/quote]
As with all electronic monitor equipment, the only real danger is tired eyes (Aka, take a break) and in rare cases can invoke epileptic seizures (For people who have epilepsy of course)
Outside of that, the brightness of a monitor pales in comparison to many other light sources you encounter on a day to day basis. There are no health risks.
Andrew, were there any medical tests of 3D LightBoost? IMHO, sending 60 double-brightness flashes per second to an eye isn't a health upgrade.
Also, did i misunderstood or was it said that brightness adjusts when there's no ghosting on a screen? Could you please tell more on this matter: how is it detected that no ghosting is present, and wouldn't it mean that brightness is adjusted for a short periods, in scenes with less potential ghosting?
As with all electronic monitor equipment, the only real danger is tired eyes (Aka, take a break) and in rare cases can invoke epileptic seizures (For people who have epilepsy of course)
Outside of that, the brightness of a monitor pales in comparison to many other light sources you encounter on a day to day basis. There are no health risks.
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Andrew, were there any medical tests of 3D LightBoost? IMHO, sending 60 double-brightness flashes per second to an eye isn't a health upgrade.[/quote]
LED TVs with a pulsating backplane are doing that for a while now. This technique hasn't been invented for 3D.
Andrew, were there any medical tests of 3D LightBoost? IMHO, sending 60 double-brightness flashes per second to an eye isn't a health upgrade.
LED TVs with a pulsating backplane are doing that for a while now. This technique hasn't been invented for 3D.
Outside of that, the brightness of a monitor pales in comparison to many other light sources you encounter on a day to day basis. There are no health risks.
[/quote]
I'm pretty sure you don't stare at more bright light sources for longer than a second. And you will even avoid to have them in peripheral vision. That's a protective reflex.
Did you try to look at too bright display for a long time? It surely looks dangerous. And here we have shutter glasses, which darken the image 60 times a second, so they mask too bright light with blackouts. But still these are very bright flashes. For now my display adjusts brightness when 3D Vision is activated - and becomes so bright that it's really hard for me to look at it with a naked eye. If it will become even brighter with 3D LightBoost - i'm seriously afraid for my eyes, i don't want to go sleep with a Geralt print on my retina or maybe even wake up with it still there.
Outside of that, the brightness of a monitor pales in comparison to many other light sources you encounter on a day to day basis. There are no health risks.
I'm pretty sure you don't stare at more bright light sources for longer than a second. And you will even avoid to have them in peripheral vision. That's a protective reflex.
Did you try to look at too bright display for a long time? It surely looks dangerous. And here we have shutter glasses, which darken the image 60 times a second, so they mask too bright light with blackouts. But still these are very bright flashes. For now my display adjusts brightness when 3D Vision is activated - and becomes so bright that it's really hard for me to look at it with a naked eye. If it will become even brighter with 3D LightBoost - i'm seriously afraid for my eyes, i don't want to go sleep with a Geralt print on my retina or maybe even wake up with it still there.
LED TVs with a pulsating backplane are doing that for a while now. This technique hasn't been invented for 3D.
[/quote]
Do LED displays darken 60 times a second so you don't actually understand that the brightness is high?
LED TVs with a pulsating backplane are doing that for a while now. This technique hasn't been invented for 3D.
Do LED displays darken 60 times a second so you don't actually understand that the brightness is high?
I'm pretty sure you don't stare at more bright light sources for longer than a second. And you will even avoid to have them in peripheral vision. That's a protective reflex.
Did you try to look at too bright display for a long time? It surely looks dangerous. And here we have shutter glasses, which darken the image 60 times a second, so they mask too bright light with blackouts. But still these are very bright flashes. For now my display adjusts brightness when 3D Vision is activated - and becomes so bright that it's really hard for me to look at it with a naked eye. If it will become even brighter with 3D LightBoost - i'm seriously afraid for my eyes, i don't want to go sleep with a Geralt print on my retina or maybe even wake up with it still there.
[/quote]
You misunderstand me.
by "bright light sources" I was referring to normal daily activities.
Casual exposure to Daylight is much more harmful to your eyes then staring at the brightest monitor on maximum brightness levels at 1 inch away from your face.
Simply put, monitors pose no health risks outside of seizures (For people who have epilepsy) and eye fatigue (Caused from not taking a break, worst side effects are tired feeling eyes or headaches, cured by, you guessed it, taking a break, and can cause absolutely no long term damage) *Eye sight naturally decreases in humans as a normal part of aging process*. It is not caused from "reading too much" or "looking at video screens".
If you'd like more detailed explination on how human eye works feel free to use [url="http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Human+Eye"]This Resource[/url]. It has a lot of information to help you not sound uneducated before you post.
I'm pretty sure you don't stare at more bright light sources for longer than a second. And you will even avoid to have them in peripheral vision. That's a protective reflex.
Did you try to look at too bright display for a long time? It surely looks dangerous. And here we have shutter glasses, which darken the image 60 times a second, so they mask too bright light with blackouts. But still these are very bright flashes. For now my display adjusts brightness when 3D Vision is activated - and becomes so bright that it's really hard for me to look at it with a naked eye. If it will become even brighter with 3D LightBoost - i'm seriously afraid for my eyes, i don't want to go sleep with a Geralt print on my retina or maybe even wake up with it still there.
You misunderstand me.
by "bright light sources" I was referring to normal daily activities.
Casual exposure to Daylight is much more harmful to your eyes then staring at the brightest monitor on maximum brightness levels at 1 inch away from your face.
Simply put, monitors pose no health risks outside of seizures (For people who have epilepsy) and eye fatigue (Caused from not taking a break, worst side effects are tired feeling eyes or headaches, cured by, you guessed it, taking a break, and can cause absolutely no long term damage) *Eye sight naturally decreases in humans as a normal part of aging process*. It is not caused from "reading too much" or "looking at video screens".
If you'd like more detailed explination on how human eye works feel free to use This Resource. It has a lot of information to help you not sound uneducated before you post.
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what about projectors and the new glasses? will there be any with lightboost?
[/quote]
Hi
We have nothing to announce regarding 3D Vision 2 and projectors.
what about projectors and the new glasses? will there be any with lightboost?
Hi
We have nothing to announce regarding 3D Vision 2 and projectors.