Modifying 3D Vision to support SBS
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DarkStarSword. THANK YOU! I just checked the Aliasing in Dying light and results are much better now. I will check other games. Update: Dying LIght- Working Fallout 4 Working Thw Witcher 3- Working MGS - Phantom Pain - Working !!! GTA5 - Not working PS: To be able to cycle trough the output formats 3D MUST be active. PS2: No more crashing on resolution change. @richydemars, Didn't do any edid override. I just created a custom resolution in NV control pannel starting from 1080p.
DarkStarSword. THANK YOU!
I just checked the Aliasing in Dying light and results are much better now. I will check other games.
Update:
Dying LIght- Working
Fallout 4 Working
Thw Witcher 3- Working
MGS - Phantom Pain - Working !!!
GTA5 - Not working

PS: To be able to cycle trough the output formats 3D MUST be active.
PS2: No more crashing on resolution change.

@richydemars, Didn't do any edid override. I just created a custom resolution in NV control pannel starting from 1080p.

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Posted 02/27/2016 09:28 PM   
Amazing update!! Thanks DSS!! Tested: - Far Cry 4 --> Working - Dying Light --> Working - Fallout 4 --> Working - MGSV --> Working - Hitman Absolution --> Not working, i think is because the automatic_mode=1 - GTA V --> Working, with those glitches, there is some halo (see screenshot). And other times i start the game i get a big "Out of Memory" in red and 3D don't kick in (firt time i see that message) [img]https://s3.amazonaws.com/dhr/GTA5001.pns[/img]
Amazing update!!

Thanks DSS!!

Tested:
- Far Cry 4 --> Working
- Dying Light --> Working
- Fallout 4 --> Working
- MGSV --> Working
- Hitman Absolution --> Not working, i think is because the automatic_mode=1
- GTA V --> Working, with those glitches, there is some halo (see screenshot). And other times i start the game i get a big "Out of Memory" in red and 3D don't kick in (firt time i see that message)

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Posted 02/27/2016 10:13 PM   
i tried with witcher 3 and even the 3d is not activable now without edid override at 720p in 3DTVplay . Red quote saying 720p 120hz not ... bla bla bla , and in 1080p 60hz of course no 3D possible . Back to the early days of my discovery of the 3d world ! How do you manage this Joker as we have (almost) the same projo ?
i tried with witcher 3 and even the 3d is not activable now without edid override at 720p in 3DTVplay .
Red quote saying 720p 120hz not ... bla bla bla , and in 1080p 60hz of course no 3D possible .
Back to the early days of my discovery of the 3d world !
How do you manage this Joker as we have (almost) the same projo ?

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Posted 02/27/2016 10:44 PM   
With original Edid you have two options: 3DTVplay and HDMi Checkerboard. You select HDMI Checkerboard.
With original Edid you have two options: 3DTVplay and HDMi Checkerboard. You select HDMI Checkerboard.

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Posted 02/27/2016 10:51 PM   
Big thank you Darkstarsword! Witcher 3 now works for me = Looks amazing! Dark Souls 2 DX 11 = Colors are blue and orange, however, this is not due to the fix. This happens just by selecting HDMI Checkboard vs. 3DTV Play with no fixes applied at all. Tried a couple of different drivers and settings. Still looking.
Big thank you Darkstarsword!

Witcher 3 now works for me = Looks amazing!
Dark Souls 2 DX 11 = Colors are blue and orange, however, this is not due to the fix. This happens just by selecting HDMI Checkboard vs. 3DTV Play with no fixes applied at all. Tried a couple of different drivers and settings. Still looking.

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Posted 02/27/2016 11:51 PM   
Retried AC4 and works nicely as previously reported but yor aliasing change made a huge improvement. Now TAB (1080p) looks much better than my FP 720p. I have been running the Firewatch fix for Perfect Golf. Works nicely and SBS/TAB works, however, this title has hardware mouse. As a result, the mouse position ends up being off. The mouse cursor seems to think its still in non stretched 1080p. So in SBS mode its horizontal position is off by half. In TAB mode its vertical position is off by half (after TV has stretched image to its stereo mode). So I think any title that relies on proper mouse co-ords will have issues when clicking buttons etc. Hope that makes sense. Cheers
Retried AC4 and works nicely as previously reported but yor aliasing change made a huge improvement. Now TAB (1080p) looks much better than my FP 720p.

I have been running the Firewatch fix for Perfect Golf. Works nicely and SBS/TAB works, however, this title has hardware mouse. As a result, the mouse position ends up being off. The mouse cursor seems to think its still in non stretched 1080p. So in SBS mode its horizontal position is off by half. In TAB mode its vertical position is off by half (after TV has stretched image to its stereo mode). So I think any title that relies on proper mouse co-ords will have issues when clicking buttons etc. Hope that makes sense.

Cheers

Posted 02/28/2016 12:03 AM   
[quote="richydemars"]@DarkStarSword : is it possible to finally have in Elite Dangerous a perfect 3D TopBot. with 3DMigoto 1.2.32 without using the (uncomplet) 3dvision fix ? There is already in-game a SBS option but not great[/quote]Elite Dangerous doesn't work with the latest 3DMigoto (crashes on anything more recent than 1.0), so presently no - I've been meaning to pick up a copy of it to try to track down the crash, but I might wait until the next big sale. [quote="DHR"]- Hitman Absolution --> Not working, i think is because the automatic_mode=1 - GTA V --> Working, with those glitches, there is some halo (see screenshot). And other times i start the game i get a big "Out of Memory" in red and 3D don't kick in (firt time i see that message)[/quote]Thanks for testing. I don't think automatic_mode=1 should cause any problems with this approach, but I'll take a look at Hitman Absolution and see if I can work out how to solve the issue. I don't currently have GTAV, but I can probably borrow pirateguybrush' copy to take a look at it. [quote="mgriggs22"]Dark Souls 2 DX 11 = Colors are blue and orange, however, this is not due to the fix. This happens just by selecting HDMI Checkboard vs. 3DTV Play with no fixes applied at all. Tried a couple of different drivers and settings. Still looking.[/quote]Wow, that's odd :-/ [quote="BazzaLB"]I have been running the Firewatch fix for Perfect Golf. Works nicely and SBS/TAB works, however, this title has hardware mouse. As a result, the mouse position ends up being off. The mouse cursor seems to think its still in non stretched 1080p. So in SBS mode its horizontal position is off by half. In TAB mode its vertical position is off by half (after TV has stretched image to its stereo mode). So I think any title that relies on proper mouse co-ords will have issues when clicking buttons etc. Hope that makes sense.[/quote]Yeah, that's a problem in a couple of games, but it's mostly restricted to the menus. I have some plans to implement a software mouse in 3DMigoto (this would also allow us to finally move the mouse off screen depth, and even allow for a fully 3D mouse cursor in games where it is appropriate like the one in The Witness), and I have one of the necessary pieces with the shader injection, but I still need to implement support for intercepting the mouse cursor and movement in 3DMigoto.
richydemars said:@DarkStarSword : is it possible to finally have in Elite Dangerous a perfect 3D TopBot. with 3DMigoto 1.2.32 without using the (uncomplet) 3dvision fix ? There is already in-game a SBS option but not great
Elite Dangerous doesn't work with the latest 3DMigoto (crashes on anything more recent than 1.0), so presently no - I've been meaning to pick up a copy of it to try to track down the crash, but I might wait until the next big sale.

DHR said:- Hitman Absolution --> Not working, i think is because the automatic_mode=1
- GTA V --> Working, with those glitches, there is some halo (see screenshot). And other times i start the game i get a big "Out of Memory" in red and 3D don't kick in (firt time i see that message)
Thanks for testing. I don't think automatic_mode=1 should cause any problems with this approach, but I'll take a look at Hitman Absolution and see if I can work out how to solve the issue. I don't currently have GTAV, but I can probably borrow pirateguybrush' copy to take a look at it.

mgriggs22 said:Dark Souls 2 DX 11 = Colors are blue and orange, however, this is not due to the fix. This happens just by selecting HDMI Checkboard vs. 3DTV Play with no fixes applied at all. Tried a couple of different drivers and settings. Still looking.
Wow, that's odd :-/

BazzaLB said:I have been running the Firewatch fix for Perfect Golf. Works nicely and SBS/TAB works, however, this title has hardware mouse. As a result, the mouse position ends up being off. The mouse cursor seems to think its still in non stretched 1080p. So in SBS mode its horizontal position is off by half. In TAB mode its vertical position is off by half (after TV has stretched image to its stereo mode). So I think any title that relies on proper mouse co-ords will have issues when clicking buttons etc. Hope that makes sense.
Yeah, that's a problem in a couple of games, but it's mostly restricted to the menus. I have some plans to implement a software mouse in 3DMigoto (this would also allow us to finally move the mouse off screen depth, and even allow for a fully 3D mouse cursor in games where it is appropriate like the one in The Witness), and I have one of the necessary pieces with the shader injection, but I still need to implement support for intercepting the mouse cursor and movement in 3DMigoto.

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Posted 02/28/2016 03:32 AM   
[quote="joker18"]Interesting method... Thanks for the tip Using this I created a custom resolution starting from 1080p and made it 2560x1440. It allows me to turn on 3D with Chekerboard so I can use TB. DSS is not allowed but this works PS: I tried also the 720p supersampled. It is indeed smooth but I just can't handle the lack of detail.[/quote] So supersampling with 720p frampacked was smoother than supersampling with 1080p over under, just less detail? I'm wondering how the two compare. I'll get around to trying in myself but I'd love to here your opinion.
joker18 said:Interesting method... Thanks for the tip
Using this I created a custom resolution starting from 1080p and made it 2560x1440.
It allows me to turn on 3D with Chekerboard so I can use TB. DSS is not allowed but this works

PS: I tried also the 720p supersampled. It is indeed smooth but I just can't handle the lack of detail.


So supersampling with 720p frampacked was smoother than supersampling with 1080p over under, just less detail? I'm wondering how the two compare. I'll get around to trying in myself but I'd love to here your opinion.

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Posted 02/28/2016 05:43 AM   
[quote="CeeJayII"][quote="joker18"]Interesting method... Thanks for the tip Using this I created a custom resolution starting from 1080p and made it 2560x1440. It allows me to turn on 3D with Chekerboard so I can use TB. DSR is not allowed but this works PS: I tried also the 720p supersampled. It is indeed smooth but I just can't handle the lack of detail.[/quote] So supersampling with 720p frampacked was smoother than supersampling with 1080p over under, just less detail? I'm wondering how the two compare. I'll get around to trying in myself but I'd love to here your opinion.[/quote] 720P supersampled was smoother than 1080P TB (not supersampled)In the previous release there was Aliasing, DSS explained why. It is not the case anymore with the latest release from DSS. Now Aliasing is gone in TB so it looks very smooth also and with much more detail than 720p CONCLUSION: For the ones that tested the previous 3Dmigoto release and tought 720P with DSR is better, try this latest release in TB. It makes a major difference.
CeeJayII said:
joker18 said:Interesting method... Thanks for the tip
Using this I created a custom resolution starting from 1080p and made it 2560x1440.
It allows me to turn on 3D with Chekerboard so I can use TB. DSR is not allowed but this works

PS: I tried also the 720p supersampled. It is indeed smooth but I just can't handle the lack of detail.


So supersampling with 720p frampacked was smoother than supersampling with 1080p over under, just less detail? I'm wondering how the two compare. I'll get around to trying in myself but I'd love to here your opinion.


720P supersampled was smoother than 1080P TB (not supersampled)In the previous release there was Aliasing, DSS explained why.
It is not the case anymore with the latest release from DSS. Now Aliasing is gone in TB so it looks very smooth also and with much more detail than 720p

CONCLUSION: For the ones that tested the previous 3Dmigoto release and tought 720P with DSR is better, try this latest release in TB. It makes a major difference.

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Posted 02/28/2016 06:05 AM   
[quote="DHR"]- Hitman Absolution --> Not working, i think is because the automatic_mode=1 - GTA V --> Working, with those glitches, there is some halo (see screenshot). And other times i start the game i get a big "Out of Memory" in red and 3D don't kick in (firt time i see that message)[/quote] [quote="DarkStarSword"]Thanks for testing. I don't think automatic_mode=1 should cause any problems with this approach, but I'll take a look at Hitman Absolution and see if I can work out how to solve the issue. I don't currently have GTAV, but I can probably borrow pirateguybrush' copy to take a look at it. [/quote] I tried Hitman Absolution, I can't even get it to work with the new version of 3DMigoto without the SBS fix running in regular 3DTV Play. Runs fine in 3DTV Play with the version of 3DMigoto that was packaged with your fix DHR.
DHR said:- Hitman Absolution --> Not working, i think is because the automatic_mode=1
- GTA V --> Working, with those glitches, there is some halo (see screenshot). And other times i start the game i get a big "Out of Memory" in red and 3D don't kick in (firt time i see that message)

DarkStarSword said:Thanks for testing. I don't think automatic_mode=1 should cause any problems with this approach, but I'll take a look at Hitman Absolution and see if I can work out how to solve the issue. I don't currently have GTAV, but I can probably borrow pirateguybrush' copy to take a look at it.


I tried Hitman Absolution, I can't even get it to work with the new version of 3DMigoto without the SBS fix running in regular 3DTV Play. Runs fine in 3DTV Play with the version of 3DMigoto that was packaged with your fix DHR.

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Posted 02/28/2016 06:43 AM   
Thanks DarkStarSword! Now latest steam version of witcher 3 finally works with SBS modes. Also nobody mentioned but it works just fine with "3d Vision Discover" mode.
Thanks DarkStarSword! Now latest steam version of witcher 3 finally works with SBS modes. Also nobody mentioned but it works just fine with "3d Vision Discover" mode.

Posted 02/28/2016 07:18 AM   
more Witcher3: tested it on BenQ W1070, 1080p TAB mode looks waaaay better than 720p frame sequential. Completely worth fps lost for rendering it in higher resolution. Just an awesome change to graphics quality. Now if only that mod would work with dx9 games too :) @DarkStarSword - do I understand correctly - wrapper for DX9 just don't have needed code and features to implement the same shaders in it too?
more Witcher3: tested it on BenQ W1070, 1080p TAB mode looks waaaay better than 720p frame sequential. Completely worth fps lost for rendering it in higher resolution. Just an awesome change to graphics quality.

Now if only that mod would work with dx9 games too :)
@DarkStarSword - do I understand correctly - wrapper for DX9 just don't have needed code and features to implement the same shaders in it too?

Posted 02/28/2016 11:10 AM   
Thanks DSS!! GTA V will look great in 1080p TB... Also test others games: - AC3 -> working - AC4 -> working - AC Rogue -> working - Watch Dog -> working - Shadows of Mordor -> The game don't start. If i disable the feature the game still don't start, so i think is related to the wrapper - Tomb Raider 2013 --> The game don't start - Crysis 3 -> Not working, same thing than Hitman Absolution
Thanks DSS!!
GTA V will look great in 1080p TB...

Also test others games:
- AC3 -> working
- AC4 -> working
- AC Rogue -> working
- Watch Dog -> working
- Shadows of Mordor -> The game don't start. If i disable the feature the game still don't start, so i think is related to the wrapper
- Tomb Raider 2013 --> The game don't start
- Crysis 3 -> Not working, same thing than Hitman Absolution

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Posted 02/28/2016 11:21 AM   
Battlefield 4 -> working !
Battlefield 4 -> working !

Posted 02/28/2016 11:22 AM   
[quote="joker18"]With original Edid you have two options: 3DTVplay and HDMi Checkerboard. You select HDMI Checkerboard.[/quote] Hi, i have the option of HDMI Checkboard under 3DTV, but when i push apply, it go back to 3DTV :(. I have a projector Optoma HD131xe, i tried the EDID overide of the JVC without success to keep this change saved. Any tip please? Because i'm still stuck with 1080@24hz. Please help me. I use driver 358.50. PS: Am i wrong or the projector can handle this mode according to the manual here: [url]http://www.manualslib.com/manual/546921/Optoma-Ephd131xe.html?page=61#manual[/url] Thank you for the great job you do.
joker18 said:With original Edid you have two options: 3DTVplay and HDMi Checkerboard. You select HDMI Checkerboard.


Hi,

i have the option of HDMI Checkboard under 3DTV, but when i push apply, it go back to 3DTV :(.

I have a projector Optoma HD131xe, i tried the EDID overide of the JVC without success to keep this change saved.

Any tip please?

Because i'm still stuck with 1080@24hz.

Please help me. I use driver 358.50.


PS: Am i wrong or the projector can handle this mode according to the manual here:
http://www.manualslib.com/manual/546921/Optoma-Ephd131xe.html?page=61#manual

Thank you for the great job you do.

Posted 02/28/2016 11:50 AM   
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