RAdion Mobility 5870 3D ready? Cry for help.
Hi Guys,

Can anyone help please. I have a few related problems.

1. I own an Asus G73JH with Radion mobility 5870 GPU About 5 months old.
Will this run the NVIDIA 3D Vision with 3D glasses, if I get a 3D monitor (I was looking at the ASUS VG236H 23inch 3D 120Hz HDMI LCD Monitor with NVIDIA 3D Vision Kit Bundled)
I did the "will it run it" on Nvidia's site and it said yes to all of my hardware except my GPU and then directed me to suggested upgrade hardware that will run the Nvidia 3D kit. the second laptop option in the list was my own laptop with the Radion M 5870? this I found very confusing.

2. second Question please, if my GPU will not run the 3D kit, does anyone know if the Motherboard in the G73JH (I don't know how to find out what it is, It doesn't show on DXDIAG,) would be compatible if I bought an Nvidia GeForce GTX 460M (which im assuming works fine with the Nvidia 3D kit)

3rd and :) Last question, if my motherboard is compatible with the GTX 460m, is it an easy fit or would I have to have it done professionally.

I know i sound totally clueless but Id rather not assume anything. I called Asus, they were very pleasant but didnt have answers to any one of the subjects I have asked here.

I appreciate any help.

Thanks Andy.
Hi Guys,



Can anyone help please. I have a few related problems.



1. I own an Asus G73JH with Radion mobility 5870 GPU About 5 months old.

Will this run the NVIDIA 3D Vision with 3D glasses, if I get a 3D monitor (I was looking at the ASUS VG236H 23inch 3D 120Hz HDMI LCD Monitor with NVIDIA 3D Vision Kit Bundled)

I did the "will it run it" on Nvidia's site and it said yes to all of my hardware except my GPU and then directed me to suggested upgrade hardware that will run the Nvidia 3D kit. the second laptop option in the list was my own laptop with the Radion M 5870? this I found very confusing.



2. second Question please, if my GPU will not run the 3D kit, does anyone know if the Motherboard in the G73JH (I don't know how to find out what it is, It doesn't show on DXDIAG,) would be compatible if I bought an Nvidia GeForce GTX 460M (which im assuming works fine with the Nvidia 3D kit)



3rd and :) Last question, if my motherboard is compatible with the GTX 460m, is it an easy fit or would I have to have it done professionally.



I know i sound totally clueless but Id rather not assume anything. I called Asus, they were very pleasant but didnt have answers to any one of the subjects I have asked here.



I appreciate any help.



Thanks Andy.

#1
Posted 11/29/2010 02:13 PM   
1: As far as I know, you need NVIDIA GPU for 3D vision, it will not work with ATI card.
2 and 3: Even if you manage to swap your mobile ATI GPU with NVIDIA-branded one, you still need to connect your 120Hz monitor via [b]DUAL LINK DVI-D[/b] cable. I suspect your laptop does not have dual DVI-D output, and 3D vision will not work via regular VGA or HDMI connection.
1: As far as I know, you need NVIDIA GPU for 3D vision, it will not work with ATI card.

2 and 3: Even if you manage to swap your mobile ATI GPU with NVIDIA-branded one, you still need to connect your 120Hz monitor via DUAL LINK DVI-D cable. I suspect your laptop does not have dual DVI-D output, and 3D vision will not work via regular VGA or HDMI connection.

Asus P6T Deluxe V2 | Intel I7-930 @ 3.8Ghz with Noctua NH-U12P SE2 (push/pull) | MSI GTX 580 Lighting SLI | Alienware AW2310 23" 120hz Monitor + Nvidia 3D Vision glasses | 2 x OCZ Vertex 60GB SSD in RAID 0 | 2 x Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 1TB 7200 RPM in RAID 1 | Mushkin Enhanced Blackline 6GB (3 x 2GB) DDR3 | Silverstone Strider Plus 850W ST85F-P PSU | Cooler Master HAF 932 Full Tower Case | Win 7 Professional x64

#2
Posted 11/29/2010 03:26 PM   
clasys is right.

1.: Nvidia-3D-Vision only works with Nvidia GPU's.

2. and 3.: I don't know if your G73JH is identical to the G73Jw. If this is the case you can try to get the 460M graphics-circuit from that one and put it into your notebook.
But the biggest problem is that your Notebook has no DisplayPort- and no Dual-Link-DVI-connector. So you cannot connect a 120Hz display - they don't work with HDMI cause bandwith is too low.
clasys is right.



1.: Nvidia-3D-Vision only works with Nvidia GPU's.



2. and 3.: I don't know if your G73JH is identical to the G73Jw. If this is the case you can try to get the 460M graphics-circuit from that one and put it into your notebook.

But the biggest problem is that your Notebook has no DisplayPort- and no Dual-Link-DVI-connector. So you cannot connect a 120Hz display - they don't work with HDMI cause bandwith is too low.

Desktop-PC

i7 870 @ 3.8GHz + MSI GTX1070 Gaming X + 16GB RAM + Win10 64Bit Home + AW2310+3D-Vision

#3
Posted 11/29/2010 03:47 PM   
[quote name='Harbster' date='29 November 2010 - 09:13 AM' timestamp='1291039994' post='1153159']
Hi Guys,

Can anyone help please. I have a few related problems.

1. I own an Asus G73JH with Radion mobility 5870 GPU About 5 months old.
Will this run the NVIDIA 3D Vision with 3D glasses, if I get a 3D monitor (I was looking at the ASUS VG236H 23inch 3D 120Hz HDMI LCD Monitor with NVIDIA 3D Vision Kit Bundled)
I did the "will it run it" on Nvidia's site and it said yes to all of my hardware except my GPU and then directed me to suggested upgrade hardware that will run the Nvidia 3D kit. the second laptop option in the list was my own laptop with the Radion M 5870? this I found very confusing.

2. second Question please, if my GPU will not run the 3D kit, does anyone know if the Motherboard in the G73JH (I don't know how to find out what it is, It doesn't show on DXDIAG,) would be compatible if I bought an Nvidia GeForce GTX 460M (which im assuming works fine with the Nvidia 3D kit)

3rd and :) Last question, if my motherboard is compatible with the GTX 460m, is it an easy fit or would I have to have it done professionally.

I know i sound totally clueless but Id rather not assume anything. I called Asus, they were very pleasant but didnt have answers to any one of the subjects I have asked here.

I appreciate any help.

Thanks Andy.
[/quote]



Hello, lets see if we can untangle the confusion for you a bit.

Simply put, Nvidia's 3D Vision kit will only function with a compatible Nvidia based GPU.

While your laptop may be on the list of accepted hardware, It MUST feature an Nvidia GPU. I suspect that your laptop was available to be outfitted with your choice of either an Nvidia GPU or an ATI GPU and yours happens to have the red teams unit installed.


That was the easy part, the hard part is discovering if there is an option to now convert the GPU subsystem into a 3D Vision compatible Nvidia based graphics platform.


If this were a desktop unit, this would be as easy as purchasing your choice of any of the last 3 generations of Nvidias GPU units that are compatible with/powerfui enough to run 3D vision.

I have owned and operated a custom PC and Home Theater business for the last 15 years, and I don't work with laptops very often mostly by choice and here's why:

1.) Primarily because they are VERY proprietary,meaning most of the internal components are unique to that brand and that model and there are very few, if any generic parts available for upgrades/repairs .. there a few exceptions, most noteably memory upgrades, that can be performed with little or no trouble and with more than a few options to pick from.

2.) Things have improved over the years for laptops, but in general, the laptop is still regarded as an inferior gaming platform usually lagging behind their desktop counterparts by at least a generation, sometimes even 2 or 3 depending on the part in question. The reason for this of course is that the top performing CPU's and GPU's tend to be either a bit bulky, for example, think of the GTX480 and it's heat pipes, while they may look cool they are there for a very specific reason, heat.. and heat is the number one enemy for laptop users, following close behind is the power consumption those "heat radiating" devices require which certainly puts a damper on any battery life expectancies of the laptop in question.

Now that we have the GTX 580, which represents a refined GTX480, with its superior specs and superior cooling system it allows for more performance with less heat output and thusly can be used in more heat sensitive situations.

So, now that you understand a bit, here is some advice.

Even if you can find the appropriate Nvidia GPU solution for your laptop and it requires nothing more than cracking the case and removing the old AMD card and slipping in the NV solution, and even if the power supply/connections is the same for both AMD/NV and even if it doesn't void your warranty, you till have the issue of:

1.) The money it will take to pull this off. In almost ANY name brand laptop the parts will need to be purchased from the manufacturer of your laptop (Dell, Asus in your case..) and they can and do charge you a small fortune, first of all because they can, and secondly because it is a custom designed product to meld with the rest of the laptops specs, the only part of that GPU that makes it an AMD/Nvidia unit is the actual chip that houses the architecture unique to whatever generation NV/AMD series that is stated in the model of the GPU.

2.) Using an External 3D Display, which you have figured out already, and would ned no matter which route you take.

3.) The biggest problem of them all is how limited you would be performance wise, and it's this point that ties in to what I started to say earlier, gaming on a laptop can never be equal to what a comperable desktop can provide. I know there are some of you out there that have gaming based laptops, but most of you made a sacrifice by placing the portability of your laptop first and the gaming performance a close second .. anyone that says otherwise is either seriously deluded or grossly misinformed.

That said, asking a laptop system to crank out acceptable gaming performance is one thing, but asking it to do the same but in 3D is a whole other animal. 3D Vision, in a nutshell, requires your GPU subsystem to work twice as hard, literally, when 3D gaming is enabled your GPU subsytem is asked to literally draw each frame twice.


The required 120Hz display, the Samsung 22" for example, with a native res of 1680 x 1050 works with 3D by being capable of displaying an image generated for each eye, each at 60Hz, which the shutter glasses, always in snyc with the display, work to fool your mind into seeing the images as one combined image with the added dimension of depth..

I hope this helps you to understand just what is required, if I were you I would give careful consideration to which path to take. I would leave the laptop as is and build a machine with 3D vision in mind from the very beginning. I think the amount of money and work that needs to go into retro-fitting your current laptop will severely out-weigh the results that you hope to achieve, the performance will simply not be there, especially in newer titles, and the buyers-remorse you will surely feel will be improperly directed at Nvidia's 3D technology, which I can assure you is really the next big step in gaming/entertainment.

In short, if you do it properly, research it thouroughly and make the right purchases, you will wonder how you ever lived without gaming in 3d. Most certainly you won't be satisfied with anything less going forward.

If you need any help, shoot me a PM or just keep up with your topics and there will be plenty of other users happy to lend a hand.

~Nutz
[quote name='Harbster' date='29 November 2010 - 09:13 AM' timestamp='1291039994' post='1153159']

Hi Guys,



Can anyone help please. I have a few related problems.



1. I own an Asus G73JH with Radion mobility 5870 GPU About 5 months old.

Will this run the NVIDIA 3D Vision with 3D glasses, if I get a 3D monitor (I was looking at the ASUS VG236H 23inch 3D 120Hz HDMI LCD Monitor with NVIDIA 3D Vision Kit Bundled)

I did the "will it run it" on Nvidia's site and it said yes to all of my hardware except my GPU and then directed me to suggested upgrade hardware that will run the Nvidia 3D kit. the second laptop option in the list was my own laptop with the Radion M 5870? this I found very confusing.



2. second Question please, if my GPU will not run the 3D kit, does anyone know if the Motherboard in the G73JH (I don't know how to find out what it is, It doesn't show on DXDIAG,) would be compatible if I bought an Nvidia GeForce GTX 460M (which im assuming works fine with the Nvidia 3D kit)



3rd and :) Last question, if my motherboard is compatible with the GTX 460m, is it an easy fit or would I have to have it done professionally.



I know i sound totally clueless but Id rather not assume anything. I called Asus, they were very pleasant but didnt have answers to any one of the subjects I have asked here.



I appreciate any help.



Thanks Andy.









Hello, lets see if we can untangle the confusion for you a bit.



Simply put, Nvidia's 3D Vision kit will only function with a compatible Nvidia based GPU.



While your laptop may be on the list of accepted hardware, It MUST feature an Nvidia GPU. I suspect that your laptop was available to be outfitted with your choice of either an Nvidia GPU or an ATI GPU and yours happens to have the red teams unit installed.





That was the easy part, the hard part is discovering if there is an option to now convert the GPU subsystem into a 3D Vision compatible Nvidia based graphics platform.





If this were a desktop unit, this would be as easy as purchasing your choice of any of the last 3 generations of Nvidias GPU units that are compatible with/powerfui enough to run 3D vision.



I have owned and operated a custom PC and Home Theater business for the last 15 years, and I don't work with laptops very often mostly by choice and here's why:



1.) Primarily because they are VERY proprietary,meaning most of the internal components are unique to that brand and that model and there are very few, if any generic parts available for upgrades/repairs .. there a few exceptions, most noteably memory upgrades, that can be performed with little or no trouble and with more than a few options to pick from.



2.) Things have improved over the years for laptops, but in general, the laptop is still regarded as an inferior gaming platform usually lagging behind their desktop counterparts by at least a generation, sometimes even 2 or 3 depending on the part in question. The reason for this of course is that the top performing CPU's and GPU's tend to be either a bit bulky, for example, think of the GTX480 and it's heat pipes, while they may look cool they are there for a very specific reason, heat.. and heat is the number one enemy for laptop users, following close behind is the power consumption those "heat radiating" devices require which certainly puts a damper on any battery life expectancies of the laptop in question.



Now that we have the GTX 580, which represents a refined GTX480, with its superior specs and superior cooling system it allows for more performance with less heat output and thusly can be used in more heat sensitive situations.



So, now that you understand a bit, here is some advice.



Even if you can find the appropriate Nvidia GPU solution for your laptop and it requires nothing more than cracking the case and removing the old AMD card and slipping in the NV solution, and even if the power supply/connections is the same for both AMD/NV and even if it doesn't void your warranty, you till have the issue of:



1.) The money it will take to pull this off. In almost ANY name brand laptop the parts will need to be purchased from the manufacturer of your laptop (Dell, Asus in your case..) and they can and do charge you a small fortune, first of all because they can, and secondly because it is a custom designed product to meld with the rest of the laptops specs, the only part of that GPU that makes it an AMD/Nvidia unit is the actual chip that houses the architecture unique to whatever generation NV/AMD series that is stated in the model of the GPU.



2.) Using an External 3D Display, which you have figured out already, and would ned no matter which route you take.



3.) The biggest problem of them all is how limited you would be performance wise, and it's this point that ties in to what I started to say earlier, gaming on a laptop can never be equal to what a comperable desktop can provide. I know there are some of you out there that have gaming based laptops, but most of you made a sacrifice by placing the portability of your laptop first and the gaming performance a close second .. anyone that says otherwise is either seriously deluded or grossly misinformed.



That said, asking a laptop system to crank out acceptable gaming performance is one thing, but asking it to do the same but in 3D is a whole other animal. 3D Vision, in a nutshell, requires your GPU subsystem to work twice as hard, literally, when 3D gaming is enabled your GPU subsytem is asked to literally draw each frame twice.





The required 120Hz display, the Samsung 22" for example, with a native res of 1680 x 1050 works with 3D by being capable of displaying an image generated for each eye, each at 60Hz, which the shutter glasses, always in snyc with the display, work to fool your mind into seeing the images as one combined image with the added dimension of depth..



I hope this helps you to understand just what is required, if I were you I would give careful consideration to which path to take. I would leave the laptop as is and build a machine with 3D vision in mind from the very beginning. I think the amount of money and work that needs to go into retro-fitting your current laptop will severely out-weigh the results that you hope to achieve, the performance will simply not be there, especially in newer titles, and the buyers-remorse you will surely feel will be improperly directed at Nvidia's 3D technology, which I can assure you is really the next big step in gaming/entertainment.



In short, if you do it properly, research it thouroughly and make the right purchases, you will wonder how you ever lived without gaming in 3d. Most certainly you won't be satisfied with anything less going forward.



If you need any help, shoot me a PM or just keep up with your topics and there will be plenty of other users happy to lend a hand.



~Nutz

---- Core System Components ----

(MBD) EVGA® Classified™ (x58) E760
(CPU) Intel® i7™ '980x' (OC'd) @ 4.8Ghz
(CPU) Corsair® (CPU) Cooling™ (H50)
(MEM) Corsair® (MEM) Dominator(GT)™ 12GB @ 2000Mhz
(PSU) PC)P&C™ (PSU)'T12W' @ 1200w
(CSE) Cooler Master® Stacker™ (830)

---- (3D) Graphics Sub'Sys ----

(2x) EVGA® GTX'970 (SC) - Nvidia® SLi™
(1x) EVGA® GTX'660 (Ti) - Nvidia® PhysX™

(1x) ACER® (GN) 246(HL) - Nvidia® 3DVision™
(1x) ASUS® (VG) 248(QE) - Nvidia® 3DVision™
(1x) ACER® (GN) 246(HL) - Nvidia® 3DVision™

---- Audio & System Control ----

(1x) ASUS® - Xonar™ (HDAV1.3)
(1x) VL'Sys® - MPlay202+ 'GUI' & (RF) Remote

---- Storage (HDD's) & Media (ODD's) PB & REC ----

(1x) (SSD) Samsung® - 850(PRO) '3D'Vertical™
(1x) (2TB) Seagate® - Hybrid Series™
(4x) (2TB) W.Digital® - 'Blacks'™
(2x) (ODD) LG® BluRay™ - 'Play'n'Burn'

---- Nvidia® (WHQL) Drivers (x64) In Use ----

(NV®)DR - v347.88 (WHQL) - Primary (GTA V)
(NV®)DR - v350.12 (WHQL) - Testing (Stable)
(NV®)DR - v353.06 (WHQL) - All Other Titles

#4
Posted 11/29/2010 03:54 PM   
Thanks for the help guys you have really helped, I'm a tad upset that I bought this laptop (as good as it is) 5 months ago. and cant play any 3D on it, but ho hum such is life.
I'm just wondering now what I should do as I really want to get into 3d gaming, whats the best course, buy the next Asus laptop? or look for a better option.

Anyway Thanks again its great t know there are folks like you who are willing to help a noob.

Andy
Thanks for the help guys you have really helped, I'm a tad upset that I bought this laptop (as good as it is) 5 months ago. and cant play any 3D on it, but ho hum such is life.

I'm just wondering now what I should do as I really want to get into 3d gaming, whats the best course, buy the next Asus laptop? or look for a better option.



Anyway Thanks again its great t know there are folks like you who are willing to help a noob.



Andy

#5
Posted 11/29/2010 04:04 PM   
[quote name='Harbster' date='29 November 2010 - 06:04 PM' timestamp='1291046666' post='1153218']
Thanks for the help guys you have really helped, I'm a tad upset that I bought this laptop (as good as it is) 5 months ago. and cant play any 3D on it, but ho hum such is life.
I'm just wondering now what I should do as I really want to get into 3d gaming, whats the best course, buy the next Asus laptop? or look for a better option.

Anyway Thanks again its great t know there are folks like you who are willing to help a noob.

Andy
[/quote]
You're not out of options for 3D.

You can't use "Nvidia 3D vision" with this laptop, but there are other 3D solutions that independent of the graphics card your computer uses. Have a look at iZ3D and tridef software solutions.
You won't get help for these solutions here (it's the Nvidia forums here). You should ask for guidance at their respective user forums, or if you prefer more neutral grounds, try mtbs3D forums.
[quote name='Harbster' date='29 November 2010 - 06:04 PM' timestamp='1291046666' post='1153218']

Thanks for the help guys you have really helped, I'm a tad upset that I bought this laptop (as good as it is) 5 months ago. and cant play any 3D on it, but ho hum such is life.

I'm just wondering now what I should do as I really want to get into 3d gaming, whats the best course, buy the next Asus laptop? or look for a better option.



Anyway Thanks again its great t know there are folks like you who are willing to help a noob.



Andy



You're not out of options for 3D.



You can't use "Nvidia 3D vision" with this laptop, but there are other 3D solutions that independent of the graphics card your computer uses. Have a look at iZ3D and tridef software solutions.

You won't get help for these solutions here (it's the Nvidia forums here). You should ask for guidance at their respective user forums, or if you prefer more neutral grounds, try mtbs3D forums.

Passive 3D forever
110" DIY dual-projection system
2x Epson EH-TW3500 (1080p) + Linear Polarizers (SPAR)
XtremScreen Daylight 2.0
VNS Geobox501 signal converter

#6
Posted 11/29/2010 05:07 PM   
[quote name='Harbster' date='29 November 2010 - 08:04 AM' timestamp='1291046666' post='1153218']
Thanks for the help guys you have really helped, I'm a tad upset that I bought this laptop (as good as it is) 5 months ago. and cant play any 3D on it, but ho hum such is life.
I'm just wondering now what I should do as I really want to get into 3d gaming, whats the best course, buy the next Asus laptop? or look for a better option.

Anyway Thanks again its great t know there are folks like you who are willing to help a noob.

Andy
[/quote]

I would get a desktop over 3D-ready laptop any day: for the money you will spend on 3D-ready laptop, you can build/buy pre-built PC that will be much more powerful. As others have pointed out, 3D vision requires a lot of graphical power to run, simply put it halves the framerates of any game just because it needs to render 2 screens instead of one. Mobile GPUs are not as powerful as desktop versions, so on a laptop you will most likely have to dial down visual settings in modern games to get acceptable framerates in 3D mode.

If you decide to go with the desktop, for 3D you will need:
1. Nvidia GPU (I think 9800GTX or better, I would definitely recommend getting nothing less than GTX 460 1GB)
2. 120Hz monitor (you can check [url="http://www.nvidia.com/object/3d-vision-requirements.html"]here[/url]for compatible models) or supported projector (I know nothing about this option, maybe someone else will fill you in if you're interested)
3. Nvidia 3D glasses kit (some monitors come bundled with it or you can buy it separatly for ~ $180)

I think that covers it. I'm sure people here will help you with choosing right hardware components for your build if you decide to do it.
[quote name='Harbster' date='29 November 2010 - 08:04 AM' timestamp='1291046666' post='1153218']

Thanks for the help guys you have really helped, I'm a tad upset that I bought this laptop (as good as it is) 5 months ago. and cant play any 3D on it, but ho hum such is life.

I'm just wondering now what I should do as I really want to get into 3d gaming, whats the best course, buy the next Asus laptop? or look for a better option.



Anyway Thanks again its great t know there are folks like you who are willing to help a noob.



Andy





I would get a desktop over 3D-ready laptop any day: for the money you will spend on 3D-ready laptop, you can build/buy pre-built PC that will be much more powerful. As others have pointed out, 3D vision requires a lot of graphical power to run, simply put it halves the framerates of any game just because it needs to render 2 screens instead of one. Mobile GPUs are not as powerful as desktop versions, so on a laptop you will most likely have to dial down visual settings in modern games to get acceptable framerates in 3D mode.



If you decide to go with the desktop, for 3D you will need:

1. Nvidia GPU (I think 9800GTX or better, I would definitely recommend getting nothing less than GTX 460 1GB)

2. 120Hz monitor (you can check herefor compatible models) or supported projector (I know nothing about this option, maybe someone else will fill you in if you're interested)

3. Nvidia 3D glasses kit (some monitors come bundled with it or you can buy it separatly for ~ $180)



I think that covers it. I'm sure people here will help you with choosing right hardware components for your build if you decide to do it.

Asus P6T Deluxe V2 | Intel I7-930 @ 3.8Ghz with Noctua NH-U12P SE2 (push/pull) | MSI GTX 580 Lighting SLI | Alienware AW2310 23" 120hz Monitor + Nvidia 3D Vision glasses | 2 x OCZ Vertex 60GB SSD in RAID 0 | 2 x Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 1TB 7200 RPM in RAID 1 | Mushkin Enhanced Blackline 6GB (3 x 2GB) DDR3 | Silverstone Strider Plus 850W ST85F-P PSU | Cooler Master HAF 932 Full Tower Case | Win 7 Professional x64

#7
Posted 11/29/2010 05:19 PM   
[quote name='Harbster' date='29 November 2010 - 07:04 PM' timestamp='1291046666' post='1153218']
Thanks for the help guys you have really helped, I'm a tad upset that I bought this laptop (as good as it is) 5 months ago. and cant play any 3D on it, but ho hum such is life.
I'm just wondering now what I should do as I really want to get into 3d gaming, whats the best course, buy the next Asus laptop? or look for a better option.

Anyway Thanks again its great t know there are folks like you who are willing to help a noob.

Andy
[/quote]

If you are looking for the best solution, than you should by a hi-end desktop computer, based on latest nVidia (GTX 480/580, SLI recommended) or AMD (5870, 5970, 6870, or wait for newest 6970 cards, they will be released at december). AMD uses it`s own 3D solutions, based on third-party sofware. Currently, nVidia is far ahead of AMD in terms of 3D support. 3D Vision from nVidia is a good technology, drivers have many built-in profiles for games etc. So, if you want the best right now, you should stick to nVidia based system.
[quote name='Harbster' date='29 November 2010 - 07:04 PM' timestamp='1291046666' post='1153218']

Thanks for the help guys you have really helped, I'm a tad upset that I bought this laptop (as good as it is) 5 months ago. and cant play any 3D on it, but ho hum such is life.

I'm just wondering now what I should do as I really want to get into 3d gaming, whats the best course, buy the next Asus laptop? or look for a better option.



Anyway Thanks again its great t know there are folks like you who are willing to help a noob.



Andy





If you are looking for the best solution, than you should by a hi-end desktop computer, based on latest nVidia (GTX 480/580, SLI recommended) or AMD (5870, 5970, 6870, or wait for newest 6970 cards, they will be released at december). AMD uses it`s own 3D solutions, based on third-party sofware. Currently, nVidia is far ahead of AMD in terms of 3D support. 3D Vision from nVidia is a good technology, drivers have many built-in profiles for games etc. So, if you want the best right now, you should stick to nVidia based system.

System specs:



CPU:Intel Core i7 930 2800@3880 MHz (Cooled by Noctua NH-D14)

MB: Asus P6T Deluxe v.2

RAM: 6 GB Kingston HyperX (KHX1600C8D3K3/6GX)

GPU: Zotac GTX480 AMP! Edition @ 800 Mhz (core)

HDD: 2Tb SATA-II Western Digital Caviar Black + 2Tb SATA-II Samsung EcoGreen F4EG

Sound: Creative X-Fi Titanium

DVD-RW: ASUS DRW-24B1ST

Case: Aerocool BX-500

PSU: OCZ Z-1000w

Monitor: LG W2363D + nVidia 3D Vision

OS: Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1

#8
Posted 11/29/2010 05:37 PM   
You can use that laptop perfectly fine! Just ppl here don't have a clue about 3d rig's in general :D Keep the radeon and the notebook.

1. Look for a screens like this "portable", you can assemble it whether you want to:
http://www.projectorshop24.co.uk/filterresult.php?fromscreenfilter=1&cPath=600&cat=600&chktype_709=portable&optprice=&optwidth=&optheight=


maybe you can even project onto it from behind, or forward.
Drawback will be the projectors fix throw , you only have 10% zoom.


2. get a DLP projector, you cna carry it in a small bag, its like 3kg.


3. enjoy your system, goin to be better than 99% of 3d vision setup's out there.

rear projection diy:
http://www.3dflightsim.com/articles/screen.pdf

I'd imagine you'd want a better screen fabric though. The thing with commercial screen is that you can disassemble, assemble it , hence " FAST FOLD".
You can use that laptop perfectly fine! Just ppl here don't have a clue about 3d rig's in general :D Keep the radeon and the notebook.



1. Look for a screens like this "portable", you can assemble it whether you want to:

http://www.projectorshop24.co.uk/filterresult.php?fromscreenfilter=1&cPath=600&cat=600&chktype_709=portable&optprice=&optwidth=&optheight=





maybe you can even project onto it from behind, or forward.

Drawback will be the projectors fix throw , you only have 10% zoom.





2. get a DLP projector, you cna carry it in a small bag, its like 3kg.





3. enjoy your system, goin to be better than 99% of 3d vision setup's out there.



rear projection diy:

http://www.3dflightsim.com/articles/screen.pdf



I'd imagine you'd want a better screen fabric though. The thing with commercial screen is that you can disassemble, assemble it , hence " FAST FOLD".

#9
Posted 11/29/2010 07:02 PM   
[quote name='BlackSharkfr' date='29 November 2010 - 05:07 PM' timestamp='1291050444' post='1153241']
You won't get help for these solutions here (it's the Nvidia forums here). You should ask for guidance at their respective user forums, or if you prefer more neutral grounds, try mtbs3D forums.
[/quote]

blablabla, why dont you tell him about DLP link in the first place.
[quote name='BlackSharkfr' date='29 November 2010 - 05:07 PM' timestamp='1291050444' post='1153241']

You won't get help for these solutions here (it's the Nvidia forums here). You should ask for guidance at their respective user forums, or if you prefer more neutral grounds, try mtbs3D forums.





blablabla, why dont you tell him about DLP link in the first place.

#10
Posted 11/29/2010 07:09 PM   
Scroll To Top