Any fix to Ghosting? The frames seems out of sync so getting ghost images
Hi, I am not sure what happened, but I haven't used 3D for a while. Last time I used it, it working fine. Today when I tried to play Dragon Age 1 again I started seeing ghost images. As if the glasses are not filtering the images correctly.

I am using the ASUS VG236H Display with the 3D Kit that came with it.

Graphic Card is GTX 580

I already updated to the newest driver I can find on the Nvidia website (3D Drive CD 1.45)

And the problem still persists.

I tried turn off the C21E Support, to no avail

Anyone have similar problem that was solved?

Do I need to roll back to an older driver?
Hi, I am not sure what happened, but I haven't used 3D for a while. Last time I used it, it working fine. Today when I tried to play Dragon Age 1 again I started seeing ghost images. As if the glasses are not filtering the images correctly.



I am using the ASUS VG236H Display with the 3D Kit that came with it.



Graphic Card is GTX 580



I already updated to the newest driver I can find on the Nvidia website (3D Drive CD 1.45)



And the problem still persists.



I tried turn off the C21E Support, to no avail



Anyone have similar problem that was solved?



Do I need to roll back to an older driver?

#1
Posted 02/24/2011 05:27 AM   
You need to adjust your convergance and or seperation in order to tailor the image to your specific tastes.
You need to adjust your convergance and or seperation in order to tailor the image to your specific tastes.

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#2
Posted 02/24/2011 05:39 AM   
[quote name='Saijan Prince.' date='23 February 2011 - 09:39 PM' timestamp='1298525948' post='1198174']
You need to adjust your convergance and or seperation in order to tailor the image to your specific tastes.
[/quote]
Sorry about being a newbie about 3d stuff. How do I adjust that?

I tried adjusting the depth setting, and that just made it worse.

The Game worked fine before, and now it doesn't.

NVM I figured it out :) I had to enable the advanced keyboard short cuts...

on a positive note I also figured out what is wrong with it.

The glasses is broken. The Right Lense filters the images fine (No ghosting)
[img]http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/4519/rightlense.jpg[/img]

The left lense doesn't (it shows frames from the right lense)
[img]http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/3180/leftlense.jpg[/img]

So no matter what I set the convergence to it always has ghosting :(
[quote name='Saijan Prince.' date='23 February 2011 - 09:39 PM' timestamp='1298525948' post='1198174']

You need to adjust your convergance and or seperation in order to tailor the image to your specific tastes.



Sorry about being a newbie about 3d stuff. How do I adjust that?



I tried adjusting the depth setting, and that just made it worse.



The Game worked fine before, and now it doesn't.



NVM I figured it out :) I had to enable the advanced keyboard short cuts...



on a positive note I also figured out what is wrong with it.



The glasses is broken. The Right Lense filters the images fine (No ghosting)

Image



The left lense doesn't (it shows frames from the right lense)

Image



So no matter what I set the convergence to it always has ghosting :(

#3
Posted 02/24/2011 05:53 AM   
Ummm, I dont think the glasses can be broken.

If you only look through one lens, the image is fine because its no longer in 3D.

You need to set your convergance and seperation to suit your needs, there will always be a faint ghost. How faint depends on how "3D" you want your game to be.
Ummm, I dont think the glasses can be broken.



If you only look through one lens, the image is fine because its no longer in 3D.



You need to set your convergance and seperation to suit your needs, there will always be a faint ghost. How faint depends on how "3D" you want your game to be.

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#4
Posted 02/24/2011 06:03 AM   
Sorry was taking pictures of what I mean. Just edited the above rely with them.

I think the glasses are broken. The left lense does not filter the frames at all. The Right still does.

You can see that the full 3D image matches up perfectly on the left lense, there is 0 filtering.

here I put the phone camera right to the lense, so you can get a better idea what I mean

Left Lens
[img]http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/3906/left03.jpg[/img]



Right Lens
[img]http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/6007/right03.jpg[/img]
Sorry was taking pictures of what I mean. Just edited the above rely with them.



I think the glasses are broken. The left lense does not filter the frames at all. The Right still does.



You can see that the full 3D image matches up perfectly on the left lense, there is 0 filtering.



here I put the phone camera right to the lense, so you can get a better idea what I mean



Left Lens

Image







Right Lens

Image

#5
Posted 02/24/2011 06:15 AM   
Try forcing the resolution to be used with 100 hz in the Nvidia Control Panel (in the stereo section). With 100hz (and not 120hz) you will have something less ghosting, and also more bright. The bad is that your screen will also flicker something, but for me flickering is lower problem than the others.

It seem that all nvidia 3d vision compatible monitors gives goshting. Adjusting convergence prevent ghosting about the character or things aligned with the deph focused, but all other objects in different dephs will be ghosted. Also usually if we use convergence with this pourpose, it happend a compromise with the image deph, and most times doesn´t feel a natural convergence.
Try forcing the resolution to be used with 100 hz in the Nvidia Control Panel (in the stereo section). With 100hz (and not 120hz) you will have something less ghosting, and also more bright. The bad is that your screen will also flicker something, but for me flickering is lower problem than the others.



It seem that all nvidia 3d vision compatible monitors gives goshting. Adjusting convergence prevent ghosting about the character or things aligned with the deph focused, but all other objects in different dephs will be ghosted. Also usually if we use convergence with this pourpose, it happend a compromise with the image deph, and most times doesn´t feel a natural convergence.

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#6
Posted 02/24/2011 07:29 AM   
[quote name='Saijan Prince.' date='24 February 2011 - 06:39 AM' timestamp='1298525948' post='1198174']
You need to adjust your convergance and or seperation in order to tailor the image to your specific tastes.
[/quote]
Adjusting convergence and separation is not a fix, nor does fix ghosting.
It just makes it less apparent, due to changed settings.
[quote name='Saijan Prince.' date='24 February 2011 - 06:39 AM' timestamp='1298525948' post='1198174']

You need to adjust your convergance and or seperation in order to tailor the image to your specific tastes.



Adjusting convergence and separation is not a fix, nor does fix ghosting.

It just makes it less apparent, due to changed settings.

#7
Posted 02/24/2011 08:11 AM   
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