3D Vision 2 vs 3D Vision 1
I already have three pairs of the first gen glasses which I use with my Optoma HD67. I'm planning to purchase 3D vision 2 as I hear that they have a lighter frame, larger lens, etc. What I want to know is if they are any brighter than the previous model? I know lightboost won't work as I have a Projector but are the glasses themselves less dim? Should I go for it? Please help me out. Thanks.
I already have three pairs of the first gen glasses which I use with my Optoma HD67. I'm planning to purchase 3D vision 2 as I hear that they have a lighter frame, larger lens, etc.

What I want to know is if they are any brighter than the previous model? I know lightboost won't work as I have a Projector but are the glasses themselves less dim? Should I go for it?

Please help me out. Thanks.

#1
Posted 01/12/2013 02:14 PM   
If there is any difference in brightness between rev1 and rev2 it's probably neglectable.
If there is any difference in brightness between rev1 and rev2 it's probably neglectable.

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#2
Posted 01/12/2013 03:25 PM   
i have 3d vision2 glasses with a lightboost monitor. sadly i didnt have the 3dvision1 glasses so i cant compare. the only thing i can tell you is that the 3d vision2 glasses are really dark when you put them on. even with lightboost on the screen is darker then without the glassen and lightboost.
i have 3d vision2 glasses with a lightboost monitor. sadly i didnt have the 3dvision1 glasses so i cant compare. the only thing i can tell you is that the 3d vision2 glasses are really dark when you put them on.

even with lightboost on the screen is darker then without the glassen and lightboost.

#3
Posted 01/12/2013 03:58 PM   
I can't speak from direct experience, but as far as I know they are no brighter than V1. It's purely an issue of ergonomics. I bought a 3rd party set of glasses (xpand) and they are no brighter or darker than my Nvidia glasses when using my projector.
I can't speak from direct experience, but as far as I know they are no brighter than V1. It's purely an issue of ergonomics. I bought a 3rd party set of glasses (xpand) and they are no brighter or darker than my Nvidia glasses when using my projector.

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#4
Posted 01/12/2013 07:26 PM   
How much difference do the larger lenses make? Is it worth upgrading just for the ergonomics? I wear prescription glasses and headphones as well.
How much difference do the larger lenses make? Is it worth upgrading just for the ergonomics? I wear prescription glasses and headphones as well.

#5
Posted 01/12/2013 08:13 PM   
I owned two different projectors and have tried over 7 different 3D glasses. 3D Vision 1's were seriously bad to me *see below*. The amount of crosstalk in lenses was ridiculous considering DLP display. DLP glasses such as the optoma were much better. I basically couldnt exceed 75% Depth without seeing a good amount of crosstalk. 3D Vision 2's are the best glasses I've tried. No crosstalk at all, there is a bit of reflection but after using it for a week I got used to it. I believe lenses are a little bigger as well. Brightness is the same between the 3D vision glasses. DLP glasses are more dimmer then either. Screens are the best place to go if you find your image is too dark though. Basically if you see crosstalk with 3D Vision 1's its the glasses fault since your using DLP. Everyone is different though so while I see a ton of crosstalk you might not. So only buy if you get more crosstalk then you should I think they are both same size far as headphones/glasses. I ran into this issue with the optoma dlp glasses and got comfortable headphones that work well with 3d glasses. If interested check here http://www.amazon.com/Technica-ATH-AD700-Open-air-Audiophile-Headphones/dp/B000CMS0XU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1358036731&sr=8-1&keywords=Audio+Technica+ATH-AD700
I owned two different projectors and have tried over 7 different 3D glasses.
3D Vision 1's were seriously bad to me *see below*. The amount of crosstalk in lenses was ridiculous considering DLP display. DLP glasses such as the optoma were much better. I basically couldnt exceed 75% Depth without seeing a good amount of crosstalk.
3D Vision 2's are the best glasses I've tried. No crosstalk at all, there is a bit of reflection but after using it for a week I got used to it. I believe lenses are a little bigger as well.
Brightness is the same between the 3D vision glasses. DLP glasses are more dimmer then either. Screens are the best place to go if you find your image is too dark though.

Basically if you see crosstalk with 3D Vision 1's its the glasses fault since your using DLP. Everyone is different though so while I see a ton of crosstalk you might not. So only buy if you get more crosstalk then you should

I think they are both same size far as headphones/glasses. I ran into this issue with the optoma dlp glasses and got comfortable headphones that work well with 3d glasses. If interested check here http://www.amazon.com/Technica-ATH-AD700-Open-air-Audiophile-Headphones/dp/B000CMS0XU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1358036731&sr=8-1&keywords=Audio+Technica+ATH-AD700

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#6
Posted 01/13/2013 12:17 AM   
I don't think you can really blame the glasses, it would be ok to blame the USB driver for the particular display you were using. I've used 3D Vision 1 glasses with several DLP projectors with absolutely zero crosstalk. I did get a weird red tint on certain colors though, which was due to fact that I was using an EDID overide from an Acer H5360. Once I edited the color profile in the EDID to match mine, they worked pefectly. The thing is the signal timing for DLP Link glasses is built into the projector and is injected in between frames, so the DLP Link Glasses get perfect sync. Nvidia 3D Vision Glasses obtain their sync from the video signal before it ever reaches the Display over USB. So Nvidia must delay the sync signal to coincide with the frames as they are displayed. Not every display has the same amount of delay, so individual delay profiles musy be set up on a display by display basis.So if the delay that they add into the profile is off, ghosting occurs due to a lack of extinction between frames. I have 3 different DLP glasses, I see no difference in the darkness between them and the 3DV1 glasses. My 3DV1 glasses have stood up well, but I hate the arms on them. I have them wrapped in tape to make them more comfortable. I'd by DLP Link glasses, then you wouldn't be tied to the PC. Some of the 2D-3D converters sold on Amazon can accept a HDMI 1.4 input and output frame sequential and are pretty cheap now. Read reviews and research before buying any though. Make sure they output framesequential. Anyhow, DLP Link glasses and a converter would allow X-Box, PS3, Blu-ray player and cable set top box compatibility.
I don't think you can really blame the glasses, it would be ok to blame the USB driver for the particular display you were using.

I've used 3D Vision 1 glasses with several DLP projectors with absolutely zero crosstalk. I did get a weird red tint on certain colors though, which was due to fact that I was using an EDID overide from an Acer H5360. Once I edited the color profile in the EDID to match mine, they worked pefectly.

The thing is the signal timing for DLP Link glasses is built into the projector and is injected in between frames, so the DLP Link Glasses get perfect sync.

Nvidia 3D Vision Glasses obtain their sync from the video signal before it ever reaches the Display over USB. So Nvidia must delay the sync signal to coincide with the frames as they are displayed. Not every display has the same amount of delay, so individual delay profiles musy be set up on a display by display basis.So if the delay that they add into the profile is off, ghosting occurs due to a lack of extinction between frames.

I have 3 different DLP glasses, I see no difference in the darkness between them and the 3DV1 glasses.

My 3DV1 glasses have stood up well, but I hate the arms on them. I have them wrapped in tape to make them more comfortable.

I'd by DLP Link glasses, then you wouldn't be tied to the PC. Some of the 2D-3D converters sold on Amazon can accept a HDMI 1.4 input and output frame sequential and are pretty cheap now. Read reviews and research before buying any though. Make sure they output framesequential. Anyhow, DLP Link glasses and a converter would allow X-Box, PS3, Blu-ray player and cable set top box compatibility.

#7
Posted 01/13/2013 01:06 AM   
I still have all my glasses still and I experience crosstalk on others at this depth/settings but not 3d vision 2. Some people experience more/less crosstalk then others. If you search dlp you will see people talking about ghosting they are experiencing regardless of having 3d vision/emitter on same display. I also have my depth set for 70" on a 80" screen. Thats why I recommended the 3d vision 2's *if* he has crosstalk. Dlp-link is a tiny bit darker and definetly effects contrast. Not that they are terrible, Id rather have Optoma ZD101's (they are massive) then 3D vision 1's.
I still have all my glasses still and I experience crosstalk on others at this depth/settings but not 3d vision 2. Some people experience more/less crosstalk then others. If you search dlp you will see people talking about ghosting they are experiencing regardless of having 3d vision/emitter on same display. I also have my depth set for 70" on a 80" screen. Thats why I recommended the 3d vision 2's *if* he has crosstalk.
Dlp-link is a tiny bit darker and definetly effects contrast. Not that they are terrible, Id rather have Optoma ZD101's (they are massive) then 3D vision 1's.

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#8
Posted 01/13/2013 01:35 AM   
Can I ask, why is it a DLP projector has no crosstalk? Just the glasses and display perfectly synced or what?
Can I ask, why is it a DLP projector has no crosstalk? Just the glasses and display perfectly synced or what?

#9
Posted 01/13/2013 03:40 AM   
Because the sync signal is produced instantaneously as the frames are displayed. http://www.dlp.com/projector/dlp-innovations/dlp-link.aspx http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gr_i4fnBn8w&list=UUocsUgHuXlFVLszfphQvLuA&index=1
Because the sync signal is produced instantaneously as the frames are displayed.


http://www.dlp.com/projector/dlp-innovations/dlp-link.aspx


;list=UUocsUgHuXlFVLszfphQvLuA&index=1

#10
Posted 01/13/2013 07:56 AM   
i use 3d vision glasses 1 and 2 with an Optoma hd67 too, and for me are exactly the same besides the refractions with the 3DV 2 glasses, but expreience is exactly the same.
i use 3d vision glasses 1 and 2 with an Optoma hd67 too, and for me are exactly the same besides the refractions with the 3DV 2 glasses, but expreience is exactly the same.
DLP has no crosstalk because of the inherent way the technology works. No real refresh rate to speak of and no waiting for crystals to shift as in LCD.
DLP has no crosstalk because of the inherent way the technology works. No real refresh rate to speak of and no waiting for crystals to shift as in LCD.

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#12
Posted 01/13/2013 01:53 PM   
Interesting thanks guys.
Interesting thanks guys.

#13
Posted 01/13/2013 03:09 PM   
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