Asus PG278QR - severe ghosting/crosstalk in some games
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Wow !! Apparently I haven't seen real severe ghosting before !!
It's really weird that it present with both computers, is it the same emitter ?
I'll test a cold start on my monitor later, my normal procedure is: power on, check this forum, read other news and finally gaming, and by then the monitor is warm !
Masterotaku had a Dell S2716DG before the PG278QR, I'm quite sure he can't recommend it :)
Wow !! Apparently I haven't seen real severe ghosting before !!
It's really weird that it present with both computers, is it the same emitter ?
I'll test a cold start on my monitor later, my normal procedure is: power on, check this forum, read other news and finally gaming, and by then the monitor is warm !
Masterotaku had a Dell S2716DG before the PG278QR, I'm quite sure he can't recommend it :)
Win7 64bit Pro
CPU: 4790K 4.8 GHZ
GPU: Aurus 1080 TI 2.08 GHZ - 100% Watercooled !
Monitor: Asus PG278QR
And lots of ram and HD's ;)
Not only is it present on both computers but also on both PG278QR-monitors I tested.
But even on my "well warmed-up" nearly ghosting-free Acer GN246HL I was now able to notice all of the ghosting that you can see in the screenies (although to a lesser extent). Also even on the Acer the ghosting was more pronounced when I tested the ghosting right after I did the test with the PG278QR (when the Acer hadn't warmed-up yet). So it really looks like warming up could have something to do with it!
It really seems Just Cause 3 in some scenes is just a worst-case scenario concerning ghosting as I don't notice it in other games like Witcher 3. So if you want to try it for yourself, that would be great but beside the need to do the test with a monitor that has just been switched on it's even more important you do the test with some really high contrast stuff like you can find in Just Cause 3 (at certain daytimes ingame).
Edit: Just gave it another try. This time I did some other stuff using the PG278QR before switching to Just Cause 3. So this time the monitor had definitely warmed-up. I guess you know where this is going.....Nearly Zero Ghosting! I also changed the display settings according to some promising settings I found on the net. This means I drastically reduced brightness to 23 (before that I had it at 70). I found out that most calibrated PG278QRs that I found on the net had the brightness set in the 20s!
Does anyone of you guys use such low brightness settings? Contrast is set to 50.....
Not only is it present on both computers but also on both PG278QR-monitors I tested.
But even on my "well warmed-up" nearly ghosting-free Acer GN246HL I was now able to notice all of the ghosting that you can see in the screenies (although to a lesser extent). Also even on the Acer the ghosting was more pronounced when I tested the ghosting right after I did the test with the PG278QR (when the Acer hadn't warmed-up yet). So it really looks like warming up could have something to do with it!
It really seems Just Cause 3 in some scenes is just a worst-case scenario concerning ghosting as I don't notice it in other games like Witcher 3. So if you want to try it for yourself, that would be great but beside the need to do the test with a monitor that has just been switched on it's even more important you do the test with some really high contrast stuff like you can find in Just Cause 3 (at certain daytimes ingame).
Edit: Just gave it another try. This time I did some other stuff using the PG278QR before switching to Just Cause 3. So this time the monitor had definitely warmed-up. I guess you know where this is going.....Nearly Zero Ghosting! I also changed the display settings according to some promising settings I found on the net. This means I drastically reduced brightness to 23 (before that I had it at 70). I found out that most calibrated PG278QRs that I found on the net had the brightness set in the 20s!
Does anyone of you guys use such low brightness settings? Contrast is set to 50.....
I haven't got the time for testing yet, it's my weekly off duty day, so my monitor has been warm most of the day :)
Regarding the settings I found, without Googling it, that the monitor was overbright so I've settled for 25, 54 in contrast and 80-100 in lightboost !
With these setting I'm so happy with the PG278QR, I get a rich, warm picture with an amazing black level, and ordinary photos looks also ok, deffinatelly the best TN panel I've seen !
I haven't got the time for testing yet, it's my weekly off duty day, so my monitor has been warm most of the day :)
Regarding the settings I found, without Googling it, that the monitor was overbright so I've settled for 25, 54 in contrast and 80-100 in lightboost !
With these setting I'm so happy with the PG278QR, I get a rich, warm picture with an amazing black level, and ordinary photos looks also ok, deffinatelly the best TN panel I've seen !
Win7 64bit Pro
CPU: 4790K 4.8 GHZ
GPU: Aurus 1080 TI 2.08 GHZ - 100% Watercooled !
Monitor: Asus PG278QR
And lots of ram and HD's ;)
In this monitor (and the Dell) there isn't a proper Lightboost option that actually decreases strobe length. The PG278QR calls it Lightboost but it's just brightness (motion blur remains the same at all settings).
Reducing brightness shouldn't affect crosstalk. But contrast does. Try what I said and put it to 42. Let "Lightboost" be at 100% unless it's too much brightness for you (it's OK for me, although I would like to sacrifice some of it to have less motion blur, if I had the option).
With 42 contrast you will see a big difference in some color transitions that use very bright colors.
In this monitor (and the Dell) there isn't a proper Lightboost option that actually decreases strobe length. The PG278QR calls it Lightboost but it's just brightness (motion blur remains the same at all settings).
Reducing brightness shouldn't affect crosstalk. But contrast does. Try what I said and put it to 42. Let "Lightboost" be at 100% unless it's too much brightness for you (it's OK for me, although I would like to sacrifice some of it to have less motion blur, if I had the option).
With 42 contrast you will see a big difference in some color transitions that use very bright colors.
Meanwhile I am pretty sure my problem is not the typical ghosting. It seems something else is at play here.
Yesterday evening I gave it another try at my girlfriend's apartment using the Alienware connected with the PG278QR. Even after more than an hour gaming the "ghosting" was still very noticeable (this wasn't the case at home where it virtually vanished when the monitor had warmed up a little).
Also the fact that both monitors I tested perform exactly the same concerning the "ghosting" seems very suspicious.
The "ghosting" itself appears in a way that seems to be not the usual ghosting. Normally an additional transparent object would appear next to the actual solid one (the leaking image that is meant for the other eye). In my case I have the solid object in the middle and two additional transparent objects next to it (left and right). Interestingly I found the exact same description of this type of ghosting in a blog were the blogger said this type of ghosting often was caused by a faulty monitor-cable which is not sufficiently isolated.
In my case this would make sense because I am using a different cable at home (where the problem nearly vanished after a short time of monitor usage) while it didn't vanish in the Alienware-scenario where I am using a Mini Displayport --> Displayport cable.
Long story short: I ordered a premium cable from Amazon which I should receive this evening and then I will give it another try.....
Meanwhile I am pretty sure my problem is not the typical ghosting. It seems something else is at play here.
Yesterday evening I gave it another try at my girlfriend's apartment using the Alienware connected with the PG278QR. Even after more than an hour gaming the "ghosting" was still very noticeable (this wasn't the case at home where it virtually vanished when the monitor had warmed up a little).
Also the fact that both monitors I tested perform exactly the same concerning the "ghosting" seems very suspicious.
The "ghosting" itself appears in a way that seems to be not the usual ghosting. Normally an additional transparent object would appear next to the actual solid one (the leaking image that is meant for the other eye). In my case I have the solid object in the middle and two additional transparent objects next to it (left and right). Interestingly I found the exact same description of this type of ghosting in a blog were the blogger said this type of ghosting often was caused by a faulty monitor-cable which is not sufficiently isolated.
In my case this would make sense because I am using a different cable at home (where the problem nearly vanished after a short time of monitor usage) while it didn't vanish in the Alienware-scenario where I am using a Mini Displayport --> Displayport cable.
Long story short: I ordered a premium cable from Amazon which I should receive this evening and then I will give it another try.....
Interesting lohan, let us hear more about this cable !
Yesterday I was experimenting with some mods in Skyrim SE, so you start the game a dusin times, and suddenly I was there....
I had a image exactly like yours with 2 "black ghosts" , and that made me recall that this was not the first time, more like the third time or something, but the previous time is a while ago, and I had forgotten all about it..
But I did remember that the only way to fix it was to reboot windows, and yes it was back to normal !!
I'm pretty sure that we experience the same flaw, but why does a reboot fix it ?? Can it be driver related or...
Interesting lohan, let us hear more about this cable !
Yesterday I was experimenting with some mods in Skyrim SE, so you start the game a dusin times, and suddenly I was there....
I had a image exactly like yours with 2 "black ghosts" , and that made me recall that this was not the first time, more like the third time or something, but the previous time is a while ago, and I had forgotten all about it..
But I did remember that the only way to fix it was to reboot windows, and yes it was back to normal !!
I'm pretty sure that we experience the same flaw, but why does a reboot fix it ?? Can it be driver related or...
Win7 64bit Pro
CPU: 4790K 4.8 GHZ
GPU: Aurus 1080 TI 2.08 GHZ - 100% Watercooled !
Monitor: Asus PG278QR
And lots of ram and HD's ;)
Ok, I can definitely say now that the cable didn't do anything!
I tried two other cables and with both of them I noticed the same severe ghosting that I also noticed with the initial cable I tried.
I then went back to my desktop PC at home and did a final test run with both of the PG278QR and my old Acer GN246HL monitor that is usually connected with my PC. I tried all of the monitors without warming them up (using Just Cause 3) and the results are pretty significant. While both PG278QRs are showing the exact same amount of severe ghosting my Acer GN246HL is practically ghosting-free. Even my LG OLED 4K TV (that I am normally using for 3D Vision gaming at home) doesn't show ghosting in that extent.
Even in Witcher 3 which looks absolutely gorgeous on the PG278QR (just like Just Cause 3) is showing ghosting when you look closely at objects like trees with the blue sky in the background. The blue sky is really the point here (and the reason why it's way more noticeable in Just Cause 3).
Everything looks quite awesome as long as it doesn't involve a bright blue sky in the background. With my old Acer GN246HL even the blue sky is no problem. If you are looking very very closely ghosting is noticeable even on the Acer but you just don't notice it when not specifically looking for it. With the PG278QRs it can be really annoying.
If there is no way to get rid of it I can live with it since the PG278QR is a phantastic monitor (aside from the ghosting in those "blue-sky scenes"). But I need to know if there is a 1440p 3D Vision capable monitor that doesn't show severe ghosting.
As far as I know there are only three options if 27" or bigger is mandatory:
1) Asus PG278QR: The one I already have.....
2) Dell S2716DG: judging from the comments on the net the Dell has several shortcomings like pixel inversion, ghosting and very annoying vertical scanlines so this one is ruled out.
3) The Acer XB271HUA: Not much about the TN-version of this monitor on the net but since I was always very happy with Acer screens and I didn't hear anything specifically negative about that monitor I chose this one to finally conclude my little investigation into the "ghosting matter".
I already sent back the PG278QR that I received last week (since both PG278QRs perform completely identical) and I ordered the Acer XB271HUA which I should receive tomorrow.
Two possible outcomes:
1) Ghosting with the Acer is just as severe as with the Asus PG278QR: In this case I will sent back the Acer as the PG278QR is known as one if not the best 1440p gaming monitor.
2) The Acer somehow does perform significantly better in terms of ghosting: In this case I will definitely keep the Acer and will put the Asus PG278QR on the bay.
I will instantly give feedback here as soon as "the results are in"!
Ok, I can definitely say now that the cable didn't do anything!
I tried two other cables and with both of them I noticed the same severe ghosting that I also noticed with the initial cable I tried.
I then went back to my desktop PC at home and did a final test run with both of the PG278QR and my old Acer GN246HL monitor that is usually connected with my PC. I tried all of the monitors without warming them up (using Just Cause 3) and the results are pretty significant. While both PG278QRs are showing the exact same amount of severe ghosting my Acer GN246HL is practically ghosting-free. Even my LG OLED 4K TV (that I am normally using for 3D Vision gaming at home) doesn't show ghosting in that extent.
Even in Witcher 3 which looks absolutely gorgeous on the PG278QR (just like Just Cause 3) is showing ghosting when you look closely at objects like trees with the blue sky in the background. The blue sky is really the point here (and the reason why it's way more noticeable in Just Cause 3).
Everything looks quite awesome as long as it doesn't involve a bright blue sky in the background. With my old Acer GN246HL even the blue sky is no problem. If you are looking very very closely ghosting is noticeable even on the Acer but you just don't notice it when not specifically looking for it. With the PG278QRs it can be really annoying.
If there is no way to get rid of it I can live with it since the PG278QR is a phantastic monitor (aside from the ghosting in those "blue-sky scenes"). But I need to know if there is a 1440p 3D Vision capable monitor that doesn't show severe ghosting.
As far as I know there are only three options if 27" or bigger is mandatory:
1) Asus PG278QR: The one I already have.....
2) Dell S2716DG: judging from the comments on the net the Dell has several shortcomings like pixel inversion, ghosting and very annoying vertical scanlines so this one is ruled out.
3) The Acer XB271HUA: Not much about the TN-version of this monitor on the net but since I was always very happy with Acer screens and I didn't hear anything specifically negative about that monitor I chose this one to finally conclude my little investigation into the "ghosting matter".
I already sent back the PG278QR that I received last week (since both PG278QRs perform completely identical) and I ordered the Acer XB271HUA which I should receive tomorrow.
Two possible outcomes:
1) Ghosting with the Acer is just as severe as with the Asus PG278QR: In this case I will sent back the Acer as the PG278QR is known as one if not the best 1440p gaming monitor.
2) The Acer somehow does perform significantly better in terms of ghosting: In this case I will definitely keep the Acer and will put the Asus PG278QR on the bay.
I will instantly give feedback here as soon as "the results are in"!
After reading some of your experiences I think is a driver problem. Every few months nvidia mess ups 3d vision drivers and you can't play with 3d activated because are unplayable with things like ghosting, shadows messed on previously perfect 3d games, etc. When that happens you have 2 choices: wait to next driver patch(or 2), or better: return to a previous driver you know where functioning correctly. I always return to a previous driver and ignore one or two future updates more until I update.
After reading some of your experiences I think is a driver problem. Every few months nvidia mess ups 3d vision drivers and you can't play with 3d activated because are unplayable with things like ghosting, shadows messed on previously perfect 3d games, etc. When that happens you have 2 choices: wait to next driver patch(or 2), or better: return to a previous driver you know where functioning correctly. I always return to a previous driver and ignore one or two future updates more until I update.
PD: I have the PG248 and I don't have ghosting... except when nvidia drivers broke 3d, OR [b]sometimes is because a game patch[/b] as only happens on that game after updating it, because previously worked correctly.
PD: I have the PG248 and I don't have ghosting... except when nvidia drivers broke 3d, OR sometimes is because a game patch as only happens on that game after updating it, because previously worked correctly.
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Update:
This morning I received the Acer Predator XB271HUA monitor and instantly tested it with Just Cause 3. Just as expected ghosting here was exactly the same as it was with both Asus PG278QR that I tested before.
I switched the Acer with the Asus a couple of times always with the same result: In terms of ghosting nearly no difference.
But don't get me wrong. Both monitors are phantastic especially in 3D Vision (with the Asus PG278QR being the undisputed champion according to various gaming sites and user feedback). But under most critical circumstances those 3D Vision capable QHD TN-monitors will give you some ghosting...which is ok for me. I just couldn't take the ghosting if I knew there is another option that is basically ghosting-free (just like my old Acer GN246HL). Knowing that all available 3D Vision capable QHD monitors are prone to some ghosting (in those highly critical scenes) I am perfectly fine with it (I guess in most games you even don't notice it).
Also I can definitely confirm that the ghosting nearly vanishes while playing. So with a warmed up monitor you'll hardly noticing any ghosting at all.
In Just Cause 3 there is a really simple way to test this for yourself:
Just launch the game with the "cold" monitor that you just switched on and directly head for Options --> Graphics. Here you will find all the bells and whistles for graphics written in black letters on solid white background. To the left and right of the specific options you should be able to clearly notice the wriiting in more transparent-form. Now play the game for an hour an go back to the graphics-options. Now the additional transparent writing to the left and right is almost no longer existent.
I will kkeep the Asus PG278QR now that I know that everything is alright and will finally be able to enjoy it!
@DJKANO: I don't think it's a driver-thing here as my old Acer GN246HL was nearly ghosting-free during these tests and it was connected to the same PC using the exact same driver.
@lou4612 The PG278QR is a phantastic monitor and I wouldn't abandon your "Xmas gift" too early. The ghosting really is only noticeable during the most critical scenes (which Just Cause 3 admittedly has a lot of since you constantly have the bright blue sky in the background). Also with a warmed up monitor the ghosting gradually vanishes. Heck, maybe it even plays a role that the monitors I tested were totally new. Maybe using them for some more time has a positive effect on ghosting.
This morning I received the Acer Predator XB271HUA monitor and instantly tested it with Just Cause 3. Just as expected ghosting here was exactly the same as it was with both Asus PG278QR that I tested before.
I switched the Acer with the Asus a couple of times always with the same result: In terms of ghosting nearly no difference.
But don't get me wrong. Both monitors are phantastic especially in 3D Vision (with the Asus PG278QR being the undisputed champion according to various gaming sites and user feedback). But under most critical circumstances those 3D Vision capable QHD TN-monitors will give you some ghosting...which is ok for me. I just couldn't take the ghosting if I knew there is another option that is basically ghosting-free (just like my old Acer GN246HL). Knowing that all available 3D Vision capable QHD monitors are prone to some ghosting (in those highly critical scenes) I am perfectly fine with it (I guess in most games you even don't notice it).
Also I can definitely confirm that the ghosting nearly vanishes while playing. So with a warmed up monitor you'll hardly noticing any ghosting at all.
In Just Cause 3 there is a really simple way to test this for yourself:
Just launch the game with the "cold" monitor that you just switched on and directly head for Options --> Graphics. Here you will find all the bells and whistles for graphics written in black letters on solid white background. To the left and right of the specific options you should be able to clearly notice the wriiting in more transparent-form. Now play the game for an hour an go back to the graphics-options. Now the additional transparent writing to the left and right is almost no longer existent.
I will kkeep the Asus PG278QR now that I know that everything is alright and will finally be able to enjoy it!
@DJKANO: I don't think it's a driver-thing here as my old Acer GN246HL was nearly ghosting-free during these tests and it was connected to the same PC using the exact same driver.
@lou4612 The PG278QR is a phantastic monitor and I wouldn't abandon your "Xmas gift" too early. The ghosting really is only noticeable during the most critical scenes (which Just Cause 3 admittedly has a lot of since you constantly have the bright blue sky in the background). Also with a warmed up monitor the ghosting gradually vanishes. Heck, maybe it even plays a role that the monitors I tested were totally new. Maybe using them for some more time has a positive effect on ghosting.
That Acer GN246HL must be a 3D monster, haha.
But why did you insist on testing them cold instead of in warmed up state? Most of the time you play, it will have warmed up. Yes, in mine it had more ghosting too when cold, but once it's warm, it surpases the old monitors I had by a lot.
But why did you insist on testing them cold instead of in warmed up state? Most of the time you play, it will have warmed up. Yes, in mine it had more ghosting too when cold, but once it's warm, it surpases the old monitors I had by a lot.
That's a good question. I did that because that old "3D monster" Acer GN246HL is nearly "ghosting free" all the time. No need to warm it up. The difference between cold and warmed-up is also noticeable on the Acer but to a smaller degree.
That's a good question. I did that because that old "3D monster" Acer GN246HL is nearly "ghosting free" all the time. No need to warm it up. The difference between cold and warmed-up is also noticeable on the Acer but to a smaller degree.
Hey lohan,
I just switched from a BenQ XL2420TX to a brand new ASUS PG278QR and like you I get severe crosstalk and I'm getting crazy with that issue. I would really like to keep that monitor but fir sure I cannot tolerate that much crosstalk so I'm looking for solutions. My monitor is open for a few hours already so I think the warm up is done.
This is what I get on my BenQ:
[img]https://i.imgur.com/mtfEF0O.jpg[/img]
This below is acceptable:
[img]https://i.imgur.com/5aUw3Ys.jpg[/img]
Strangely enough when I look at that .JPS file below I get more crosstalk than on the ASUS:
[img]https://i.imgur.com/aG3m448.jpg[/img]
Now let's see the ASUS:
[img]https://i.imgur.com/VGASsxs.jpg[/img]
This is driving me crazy:
[img]https://i.imgur.com/my9iKnT.jpg[/img]
Curiously it is less sever here:
[img]https://i.imgur.com/0RV2lLZ.jpg[/img]
I don't know what to do now at this point.
I just switched from a BenQ XL2420TX to a brand new ASUS PG278QR and like you I get severe crosstalk and I'm getting crazy with that issue. I would really like to keep that monitor but fir sure I cannot tolerate that much crosstalk so I'm looking for solutions. My monitor is open for a few hours already so I think the warm up is done.
This is what I get on my BenQ:
This below is acceptable:
Strangely enough when I look at that .JPS file below I get more crosstalk than on the ASUS:
I have just purchased the PG27VQ & can confirm it is crosstalk free. I’m actually quite amazed at how perfect the 3D image looks. I have had the PG278QR for the last 2 years & had crosstalk in every game.
The curve on this screen also adds to the immersion, really pleased with my purchase.
I have just purchased the PG27VQ & can confirm it is crosstalk free. I’m actually quite amazed at how perfect the 3D image looks. I have had the PG278QR for the last 2 years & had crosstalk in every game.
The curve on this screen also adds to the immersion, really pleased with my purchase.
It's really weird that it present with both computers, is it the same emitter ?
I'll test a cold start on my monitor later, my normal procedure is: power on, check this forum, read other news and finally gaming, and by then the monitor is warm !
Masterotaku had a Dell S2716DG before the PG278QR, I'm quite sure he can't recommend it :)
Win7 64bit Pro
CPU: 4790K 4.8 GHZ
GPU: Aurus 1080 TI 2.08 GHZ - 100% Watercooled !
Monitor: Asus PG278QR
And lots of ram and HD's ;)
But even on my "well warmed-up" nearly ghosting-free Acer GN246HL I was now able to notice all of the ghosting that you can see in the screenies (although to a lesser extent). Also even on the Acer the ghosting was more pronounced when I tested the ghosting right after I did the test with the PG278QR (when the Acer hadn't warmed-up yet). So it really looks like warming up could have something to do with it!
It really seems Just Cause 3 in some scenes is just a worst-case scenario concerning ghosting as I don't notice it in other games like Witcher 3. So if you want to try it for yourself, that would be great but beside the need to do the test with a monitor that has just been switched on it's even more important you do the test with some really high contrast stuff like you can find in Just Cause 3 (at certain daytimes ingame).
Edit: Just gave it another try. This time I did some other stuff using the PG278QR before switching to Just Cause 3. So this time the monitor had definitely warmed-up. I guess you know where this is going.....Nearly Zero Ghosting! I also changed the display settings according to some promising settings I found on the net. This means I drastically reduced brightness to 23 (before that I had it at 70). I found out that most calibrated PG278QRs that I found on the net had the brightness set in the 20s!
Does anyone of you guys use such low brightness settings? Contrast is set to 50.....
Regarding the settings I found, without Googling it, that the monitor was overbright so I've settled for 25, 54 in contrast and 80-100 in lightboost !
With these setting I'm so happy with the PG278QR, I get a rich, warm picture with an amazing black level, and ordinary photos looks also ok, deffinatelly the best TN panel I've seen !
Win7 64bit Pro
CPU: 4790K 4.8 GHZ
GPU: Aurus 1080 TI 2.08 GHZ - 100% Watercooled !
Monitor: Asus PG278QR
And lots of ram and HD's ;)
Reducing brightness shouldn't affect crosstalk. But contrast does. Try what I said and put it to 42. Let "Lightboost" be at 100% unless it's too much brightness for you (it's OK for me, although I would like to sacrifice some of it to have less motion blur, if I had the option).
With 42 contrast you will see a big difference in some color transitions that use very bright colors.
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Yesterday evening I gave it another try at my girlfriend's apartment using the Alienware connected with the PG278QR. Even after more than an hour gaming the "ghosting" was still very noticeable (this wasn't the case at home where it virtually vanished when the monitor had warmed up a little).
Also the fact that both monitors I tested perform exactly the same concerning the "ghosting" seems very suspicious.
The "ghosting" itself appears in a way that seems to be not the usual ghosting. Normally an additional transparent object would appear next to the actual solid one (the leaking image that is meant for the other eye). In my case I have the solid object in the middle and two additional transparent objects next to it (left and right). Interestingly I found the exact same description of this type of ghosting in a blog were the blogger said this type of ghosting often was caused by a faulty monitor-cable which is not sufficiently isolated.
In my case this would make sense because I am using a different cable at home (where the problem nearly vanished after a short time of monitor usage) while it didn't vanish in the Alienware-scenario where I am using a Mini Displayport --> Displayport cable.
Long story short: I ordered a premium cable from Amazon which I should receive this evening and then I will give it another try.....
Yesterday I was experimenting with some mods in Skyrim SE, so you start the game a dusin times, and suddenly I was there....
I had a image exactly like yours with 2 "black ghosts" , and that made me recall that this was not the first time, more like the third time or something, but the previous time is a while ago, and I had forgotten all about it..
But I did remember that the only way to fix it was to reboot windows, and yes it was back to normal !!
I'm pretty sure that we experience the same flaw, but why does a reboot fix it ?? Can it be driver related or...
Win7 64bit Pro
CPU: 4790K 4.8 GHZ
GPU: Aurus 1080 TI 2.08 GHZ - 100% Watercooled !
Monitor: Asus PG278QR
And lots of ram and HD's ;)
I tried two other cables and with both of them I noticed the same severe ghosting that I also noticed with the initial cable I tried.
I then went back to my desktop PC at home and did a final test run with both of the PG278QR and my old Acer GN246HL monitor that is usually connected with my PC. I tried all of the monitors without warming them up (using Just Cause 3) and the results are pretty significant. While both PG278QRs are showing the exact same amount of severe ghosting my Acer GN246HL is practically ghosting-free. Even my LG OLED 4K TV (that I am normally using for 3D Vision gaming at home) doesn't show ghosting in that extent.
Even in Witcher 3 which looks absolutely gorgeous on the PG278QR (just like Just Cause 3) is showing ghosting when you look closely at objects like trees with the blue sky in the background. The blue sky is really the point here (and the reason why it's way more noticeable in Just Cause 3).
Everything looks quite awesome as long as it doesn't involve a bright blue sky in the background. With my old Acer GN246HL even the blue sky is no problem. If you are looking very very closely ghosting is noticeable even on the Acer but you just don't notice it when not specifically looking for it. With the PG278QRs it can be really annoying.
If there is no way to get rid of it I can live with it since the PG278QR is a phantastic monitor (aside from the ghosting in those "blue-sky scenes"). But I need to know if there is a 1440p 3D Vision capable monitor that doesn't show severe ghosting.
As far as I know there are only three options if 27" or bigger is mandatory:
1) Asus PG278QR: The one I already have.....
2) Dell S2716DG: judging from the comments on the net the Dell has several shortcomings like pixel inversion, ghosting and very annoying vertical scanlines so this one is ruled out.
3) The Acer XB271HUA: Not much about the TN-version of this monitor on the net but since I was always very happy with Acer screens and I didn't hear anything specifically negative about that monitor I chose this one to finally conclude my little investigation into the "ghosting matter".
I already sent back the PG278QR that I received last week (since both PG278QRs perform completely identical) and I ordered the Acer XB271HUA which I should receive tomorrow.
Two possible outcomes:
1) Ghosting with the Acer is just as severe as with the Asus PG278QR: In this case I will sent back the Acer as the PG278QR is known as one if not the best 1440p gaming monitor.
2) The Acer somehow does perform significantly better in terms of ghosting: In this case I will definitely keep the Acer and will put the Asus PG278QR on the bay.
I will instantly give feedback here as soon as "the results are in"!
Gonna leave 3D Monitors alone for good.
Gaming Rig 1
i7 5820K 3.3ghz (Stock Clock)
GTX 1080 Founders Edition (Stock Clock)
16GB DDR4 2400 RAM
512 SAMSUNG 840 PRO
Gaming Rig 2
My new build
Asus Maximus X Hero Z370
MSI Gaming X 1080Ti (2100 mhz OC Watercooled)
8700k (4.7ghz OC Watercooled)
16gb DDR4 3000 Ram
500GB SAMSUNG 860 EVO SERIES SSD M.2
This morning I received the Acer Predator XB271HUA monitor and instantly tested it with Just Cause 3. Just as expected ghosting here was exactly the same as it was with both Asus PG278QR that I tested before.
I switched the Acer with the Asus a couple of times always with the same result: In terms of ghosting nearly no difference.
But don't get me wrong. Both monitors are phantastic especially in 3D Vision (with the Asus PG278QR being the undisputed champion according to various gaming sites and user feedback). But under most critical circumstances those 3D Vision capable QHD TN-monitors will give you some ghosting...which is ok for me. I just couldn't take the ghosting if I knew there is another option that is basically ghosting-free (just like my old Acer GN246HL). Knowing that all available 3D Vision capable QHD monitors are prone to some ghosting (in those highly critical scenes) I am perfectly fine with it (I guess in most games you even don't notice it).
Also I can definitely confirm that the ghosting nearly vanishes while playing. So with a warmed up monitor you'll hardly noticing any ghosting at all.
In Just Cause 3 there is a really simple way to test this for yourself:
Just launch the game with the "cold" monitor that you just switched on and directly head for Options --> Graphics. Here you will find all the bells and whistles for graphics written in black letters on solid white background. To the left and right of the specific options you should be able to clearly notice the wriiting in more transparent-form. Now play the game for an hour an go back to the graphics-options. Now the additional transparent writing to the left and right is almost no longer existent.
I will kkeep the Asus PG278QR now that I know that everything is alright and will finally be able to enjoy it!
@DJKANO: I don't think it's a driver-thing here as my old Acer GN246HL was nearly ghosting-free during these tests and it was connected to the same PC using the exact same driver.
@lou4612 The PG278QR is a phantastic monitor and I wouldn't abandon your "Xmas gift" too early. The ghosting really is only noticeable during the most critical scenes (which Just Cause 3 admittedly has a lot of since you constantly have the bright blue sky in the background). Also with a warmed up monitor the ghosting gradually vanishes. Heck, maybe it even plays a role that the monitors I tested were totally new. Maybe using them for some more time has a positive effect on ghosting.
But why did you insist on testing them cold instead of in warmed up state? Most of the time you play, it will have warmed up. Yes, in mine it had more ghosting too when cold, but once it's warm, it surpases the old monitors I had by a lot.
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Monitor: Asus PG278QR
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I just switched from a BenQ XL2420TX to a brand new ASUS PG278QR and like you I get severe crosstalk and I'm getting crazy with that issue. I would really like to keep that monitor but fir sure I cannot tolerate that much crosstalk so I'm looking for solutions. My monitor is open for a few hours already so I think the warm up is done.
This is what I get on my BenQ:
This below is acceptable:
Strangely enough when I look at that .JPS file below I get more crosstalk than on the ASUS:
Now let's see the ASUS:
This is driving me crazy:
Curiously it is less sever here:
I don't know what to do now at this point.
3D Vision must live! NVIDIA, don't let us down!
The curve on this screen also adds to the immersion, really pleased with my purchase.