Is there any hope of ever getting these monitors to work with 3D Vision? It runs at 120hz and it just seems the timing is off. When it is turned on the driver doesn't find my monitor.
I only see the requirement really being 120hz, this should work?
Is there any hope of ever getting these monitors to work with 3D Vision? It runs at 120hz and it just seems the timing is off. When it is turned on the driver doesn't find my monitor.
I only see the requirement really being 120hz, this should work?
I don't know the magic behind it, but if you hold a pair of 3D glasses at a right angle to a 3D monitor (even with the glasses turned off) they black out, with a non-3D monitor it doesn't.
I don't think the Qnix would make that great of a 3D monitor, the indifference between 96Hz and 120Hz kind of shows its not fast enough for 3D, it would ghost alot. I think thats why people don't bother going above 96Hz on them, on my Qnix 96 and 120 look the same, can't say the same for the Asus monitors.
I don't know the magic behind it, but if you hold a pair of 3D glasses at a right angle to a 3D monitor (even with the glasses turned off) they black out, with a non-3D monitor it doesn't.
I don't think the Qnix would make that great of a 3D monitor, the indifference between 96Hz and 120Hz kind of shows its not fast enough for 3D, it would ghost alot. I think thats why people don't bother going above 96Hz on them, on my Qnix 96 and 120 look the same, can't say the same for the Asus monitors.
Sorry to correct you, but that's not right. The polarization in 3D Vision glasses is independent of the monitor. All LCD monitors will black out the glasses, just depends upon the angle. On this Dell for example, it's at 45 degrees.
But anyway, that's not how the glasses work, they use polarization but it's internal to the glasses. Two layers, one active, one passive, in the lenses of the glasses themselves. When the timing signal hits, it activates the active layer which blocks the light, turning black. Alternates eyes, and at the 120Hz signal sent from the pyramid.
You might be able to get the Qnix to set up the timing right, best bet would be to set it as a generic CRT monitor in the 3D Vision control panel.
Probably ghosting will be bad, but it might work.
Sorry to correct you, but that's not right. The polarization in 3D Vision glasses is independent of the monitor. All LCD monitors will black out the glasses, just depends upon the angle. On this Dell for example, it's at 45 degrees.
But anyway, that's not how the glasses work, they use polarization but it's internal to the glasses. Two layers, one active, one passive, in the lenses of the glasses themselves. When the timing signal hits, it activates the active layer which blocks the light, turning black. Alternates eyes, and at the 120Hz signal sent from the pyramid.
You might be able to get the Qnix to set up the timing right, best bet would be to set it as a generic CRT monitor in the 3D Vision control panel.
Probably ghosting will be bad, but it might work.
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Bo3b, that is what I thought even though captain trollface, cookybiscuit, responded. I have set it to a CRT monitor and it does turn on the glasses but it does not seem to be timing right like you said. Is there a util out there to change the timing?
Bo3b, that is what I thought even though captain trollface, cookybiscuit, responded. I have set it to a CRT monitor and it does turn on the glasses but it does not seem to be timing right like you said. Is there a util out there to change the timing?
Captain trollface here, I'd tried this before with tablet displays and TV's and never got the glasses to blackout, also had tried it on the Qnix but assumed it would be at 90 degrees like my 3D monitor, but it does it at 45 degrees which I hadn't tried. The more you know.
Even if you can get it to work, its still going to ghost alot and be dark. Also I'm not sure the 3D emmiter will even activate at 1440p, I tried some stuff with a VG278H at 1440p (downscaled to 1080p obviously) and it would display both images but wouldn't let the emitter turn on.
Just tried it using the emmiter from my VG278H, obviously it doesn't sync up properly but the image in slightly different in each eye, so theres hope.
Captain trollface here, I'd tried this before with tablet displays and TV's and never got the glasses to blackout, also had tried it on the Qnix but assumed it would be at 90 degrees like my 3D monitor, but it does it at 45 degrees which I hadn't tried. The more you know.
Even if you can get it to work, its still going to ghost alot and be dark. Also I'm not sure the 3D emmiter will even activate at 1440p, I tried some stuff with a VG278H at 1440p (downscaled to 1080p obviously) and it would display both images but wouldn't let the emitter turn on.
Just tried it using the emmiter from my VG278H, obviously it doesn't sync up properly but the image in slightly different in each eye, so theres hope.
[quote="Cookybiscuit"]Captain trollface here, I'd tried this before with tablet displays and TV's and never got the glasses to blackout, also had tried it on the Qnix but assumed it would be at 90 degrees like my 3D monitor, but it does it at 45 degrees which I hadn't tried. The more you know.
Even if you can get it to work, its still going to ghost alot and be dark. Also I'm not sure the 3D emmiter will even activate at 1440p, I tried some stuff with a VG278H at 1440p (downscaled to 1080p obviously) and it would display both images but wouldn't let the emitter turn on.
Just tried it using the emmiter from my VG278H, obviously it doesn't sync up properly but the image in slightly different in each eye, so theres hope.[/quote]
yes Trollface.. basically you're chiming in on stuff you know nothing about and passing it off as fact. Stop, you're not helping or adding anything to the conversation.
Cookybiscuit said:Captain trollface here, I'd tried this before with tablet displays and TV's and never got the glasses to blackout, also had tried it on the Qnix but assumed it would be at 90 degrees like my 3D monitor, but it does it at 45 degrees which I hadn't tried. The more you know.
Even if you can get it to work, its still going to ghost alot and be dark. Also I'm not sure the 3D emmiter will even activate at 1440p, I tried some stuff with a VG278H at 1440p (downscaled to 1080p obviously) and it would display both images but wouldn't let the emitter turn on.
Just tried it using the emmiter from my VG278H, obviously it doesn't sync up properly but the image in slightly different in each eye, so theres hope.
yes Trollface.. basically you're chiming in on stuff you know nothing about and passing it off as fact. Stop, you're not helping or adding anything to the conversation.
[quote="tRens"]The emitter turns on for me but the images aren't sync'd with the lenses closing. Yes you're trollface.[/quote]Well, there is a [i]large [/i]difference between being a troll, and making an honest mistake. If people are being deliberately misleading, that's being a troll. Making an honest mistake is being human. Pretty sure cookybiscuit is human.
For your timing, it should work as generic CRT. The signal is emitted by the pyramid when the video card generates vSync. Try setting your monitor to lower speed, maybe as low as 85Hz, if you can. It may not actually run at 120Hz as advertised.
If that doesn't seem to help, look for some sort of image processing on the monitor itself. A lot of TVs and monitors have really terrible software that tries to blur things out to make it more 'movie-like'. Anything that processes the signal like that can add delay and force the images out of sync.
tRens said:The emitter turns on for me but the images aren't sync'd with the lenses closing. Yes you're trollface.
Well, there is a large difference between being a troll, and making an honest mistake. If people are being deliberately misleading, that's being a troll. Making an honest mistake is being human. Pretty sure cookybiscuit is human.
For your timing, it should work as generic CRT. The signal is emitted by the pyramid when the video card generates vSync. Try setting your monitor to lower speed, maybe as low as 85Hz, if you can. It may not actually run at 120Hz as advertised.
If that doesn't seem to help, look for some sort of image processing on the monitor itself. A lot of TVs and monitors have really terrible software that tries to blur things out to make it more 'movie-like'. Anything that processes the signal like that can add delay and force the images out of sync.
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[quote="Volnaiskra"]Hmm, I don't seem to get that blackout effect with my 3Dvision2 glasses[/quote]Did you rotate through a full 360 degrees? The angle of the monitor doesn't have to be sensible.
The glasses have to have two layers, because we can use them with displays that do not polarize light, like projectors against a painted wall, and plasma TVs.
Volnaiskra said:Hmm, I don't seem to get that blackout effect with my 3Dvision2 glasses
Did you rotate through a full 360 degrees? The angle of the monitor doesn't have to be sensible.
The glasses have to have two layers, because we can use them with displays that do not polarize light, like projectors against a painted wall, and plasma TVs.
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I tried the 85Hz with no luck. One thing that did work was the white block during the setup phase but nothing else seems to be working. Thank you for the help.
I tried the 85Hz with no luck. One thing that did work was the white block during the setup phase but nothing else seems to be working. Thank you for the help.
Ah, I was rotating my glasses on the wrong axis. I just did it this time and they totally blacked out. (glasses facing the monitor the entire time, but rotated 90 degrees clockwise). Interesting. It explains why 3D gamees go a bit weird when I tilt my head.
Ah, I was rotating my glasses on the wrong axis. I just did it this time and they totally blacked out. (glasses facing the monitor the entire time, but rotated 90 degrees clockwise). Interesting. It explains why 3D gamees go a bit weird when I tilt my head.
I only see the requirement really being 120hz, this should work?
I don't think the Qnix would make that great of a 3D monitor, the indifference between 96Hz and 120Hz kind of shows its not fast enough for 3D, it would ghost alot. I think thats why people don't bother going above 96Hz on them, on my Qnix 96 and 120 look the same, can't say the same for the Asus monitors.
But anyway, that's not how the glasses work, they use polarization but it's internal to the glasses. Two layers, one active, one passive, in the lenses of the glasses themselves. When the timing signal hits, it activates the active layer which blocks the light, turning black. Alternates eyes, and at the 120Hz signal sent from the pyramid.
You might be able to get the Qnix to set up the timing right, best bet would be to set it as a generic CRT monitor in the 3D Vision control panel.
Probably ghosting will be bad, but it might work.
Acer H5360 (1280x720@120Hz) - ASUS VG248QE with GSync mod - 3D Vision 1&2 - Driver 372.54
GTX 970 - i5-4670K@4.2GHz - 12GB RAM - Win7x64+evilKB2670838 - 4 Disk X25 RAID
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Latest 3Dmigoto Release
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Even if you can get it to work, its still going to ghost alot and be dark. Also I'm not sure the 3D emmiter will even activate at 1440p, I tried some stuff with a VG278H at 1440p (downscaled to 1080p obviously) and it would display both images but wouldn't let the emitter turn on.
Just tried it using the emmiter from my VG278H, obviously it doesn't sync up properly but the image in slightly different in each eye, so theres hope.
yes Trollface.. basically you're chiming in on stuff you know nothing about and passing it off as fact. Stop, you're not helping or adding anything to the conversation.
For your timing, it should work as generic CRT. The signal is emitted by the pyramid when the video card generates vSync. Try setting your monitor to lower speed, maybe as low as 85Hz, if you can. It may not actually run at 120Hz as advertised.
If that doesn't seem to help, look for some sort of image processing on the monitor itself. A lot of TVs and monitors have really terrible software that tries to blur things out to make it more 'movie-like'. Anything that processes the signal like that can add delay and force the images out of sync.
Acer H5360 (1280x720@120Hz) - ASUS VG248QE with GSync mod - 3D Vision 1&2 - Driver 372.54
GTX 970 - i5-4670K@4.2GHz - 12GB RAM - Win7x64+evilKB2670838 - 4 Disk X25 RAID
SAGER NP9870-S - GTX 980 - i7-6700K - Win10 Pro 1607
Latest 3Dmigoto Release
Bo3b's School for ShaderHackers
The glasses have to have two layers, because we can use them with displays that do not polarize light, like projectors against a painted wall, and plasma TVs.
Acer H5360 (1280x720@120Hz) - ASUS VG248QE with GSync mod - 3D Vision 1&2 - Driver 372.54
GTX 970 - i5-4670K@4.2GHz - 12GB RAM - Win7x64+evilKB2670838 - 4 Disk X25 RAID
SAGER NP9870-S - GTX 980 - i7-6700K - Win10 Pro 1607
Latest 3Dmigoto Release
Bo3b's School for ShaderHackers