Unfortunately, I find 3DTV Play's extra response lag for 1080p24 makes gaming actions like rapid, precise aiming unplayable with my UTV displays (24 fps motion OK, input lag is key issue). I have created a 3DTV bug report about this unnecessary input lag (arising from 24 fps Desktop constraint), with a link to this message thread. Interesting that this 3DTV Play architectural issue has persisted until now. Until 3DTV Play is updated, ideally with HDMI 2.0 functionality, I will probably swap my 980 for my 290X again, and start playing/replaying some of the FEW recent games (post May 2014) where Ignition still produces good S3D - like Final Fantasy XIII, with minimal lag, full-frame 1080p60 S3D on my UHDs.
I hope NVIDIA embraces 3D again, instead of simply relying upon the superb efforts of some its talented user community, like bo3b and helifax. Any of the pending VR/AR head mounted displays potentially releasing this year (see http://www.gamespot.com/videos/reality-check-hololens-vs-oculus-rift-and-the-futu/2300-6423294/ ) need artifact-free rendered 3D VR environments and AR objects. Note that as bo3b (and Table 1 above) indicate, inadequate visual resolution may be a bigger issue than FOV for some of these devices, at least at launch.
Unfortunately, I find 3DTV Play's extra response lag for 1080p24 makes gaming actions like rapid, precise aiming unplayable with my UTV displays (24 fps motion OK, input lag is key issue). I have created a 3DTV bug report about this unnecessary input lag (arising from 24 fps Desktop constraint), with a link to this message thread. Interesting that this 3DTV Play architectural issue has persisted until now. Until 3DTV Play is updated, ideally with HDMI 2.0 functionality, I will probably swap my 980 for my 290X again, and start playing/replaying some of the FEW recent games (post May 2014) where Ignition still produces good S3D - like Final Fantasy XIII, with minimal lag, full-frame 1080p60 S3D on my UHDs.
I hope NVIDIA embraces 3D again, instead of simply relying upon the superb efforts of some its talented user community, like bo3b and helifax. Any of the pending VR/AR head mounted displays potentially releasing this year (see http://www.gamespot.com/videos/reality-check-hololens-vs-oculus-rift-and-the-futu/2300-6423294/ ) need artifact-free rendered 3D VR environments and AR objects. Note that as bo3b (and Table 1 above) indicate, inadequate visual resolution may be a bigger issue than FOV for some of these devices, at least at launch.
I wonder how many holes NVIDIA can shoot in their own feet before they pull their finger out and get their arses in gear and get back to how they used to be!
Broken 3D bluray playback
Black screen on windows startup.
The 970 memory fiasco. (3.5 gb with 0.5 cache marketed as 4gb)
Can't be bothered to update 3dtvplay to support hdmi 2.0. (Probably due to them making more money selling monitors or some other greedy reason)
Zero SLI scaling in 9 out of 10 games or you might have to wait 3 months for one (which won't work in few driver versions again)
No 3D vision games. They have to let members of the community do it as they: don't have the skills/can't be bothered/dont care (whatever the weak sauce justification they won't give us the privilege of hearing)
I've just about had enough of nvidia.
If they:
fix all the terrible bugs in their drivers as of late, start actually pushing/supporting and implementing their technologies in game (SLI, 3D etc)
Manage to get both my screens to turn on without me having to restart my pc 10 times
Stop chicken feeding us new cards with crippled performance at rip off prices
I have a really bad experience with my next card (which will be an AMD)
And they actually started communicating in their own forum with their customers who are handing over thousands of pounds every year/few years who are being ignored for no benefit of either party.....
I still wouldn't go back to nvidia.
I've been a loyal customer for 10 years but I've had it. They need to rewrite the drivers from scratch/hire the talent they got rid of/whatever the reasons these last 3 months have had terrible driver and nvidia technology support in games.
We don't need nvidia grass or hbao+ or ray tracing glasses just yet, we want the products we bought to work in the way you advertised them to work, we also want support for your technologies and communication/help/support on your forums.
Give something back for once nvidia. You might even make more money doing so!
3D gaming on a 4k screen is going to take a lot more gfx grunt than 720p after all!
I wonder how many holes NVIDIA can shoot in their own feet before they pull their finger out and get their arses in gear and get back to how they used to be!
Broken 3D bluray playback
Black screen on windows startup.
The 970 memory fiasco. (3.5 gb with 0.5 cache marketed as 4gb)
Can't be bothered to update 3dtvplay to support hdmi 2.0. (Probably due to them making more money selling monitors or some other greedy reason)
Zero SLI scaling in 9 out of 10 games or you might have to wait 3 months for one (which won't work in few driver versions again)
No 3D vision games. They have to let members of the community do it as they: don't have the skills/can't be bothered/dont care (whatever the weak sauce justification they won't give us the privilege of hearing)
I've just about had enough of nvidia.
If they:
fix all the terrible bugs in their drivers as of late, start actually pushing/supporting and implementing their technologies in game (SLI, 3D etc)
Manage to get both my screens to turn on without me having to restart my pc 10 times
Stop chicken feeding us new cards with crippled performance at rip off prices
I have a really bad experience with my next card (which will be an AMD)
And they actually started communicating in their own forum with their customers who are handing over thousands of pounds every year/few years who are being ignored for no benefit of either party.....
I still wouldn't go back to nvidia.
I've been a loyal customer for 10 years but I've had it. They need to rewrite the drivers from scratch/hire the talent they got rid of/whatever the reasons these last 3 months have had terrible driver and nvidia technology support in games.
We don't need nvidia grass or hbao+ or ray tracing glasses just yet, we want the products we bought to work in the way you advertised them to work, we also want support for your technologies and communication/help/support on your forums.
Give something back for once nvidia. You might even make more money doing so!
3D gaming on a 4k screen is going to take a lot more gfx grunt than 720p after all!
Your text is both very good and useless at the same time.
[img]http://i.ytimg.com/vi/BLUkgRAy_Vo/maxresdefault.jpg[/img]
The reason Nvidia exist: grab more money, grab MORE money!
The argument about earning more by actually caring, after the translation done by their "experts", analysts, and other idiots who never played even an hour in 3D:
"Blah-blah-blah-blah, silly naive gamers who think anyone here gives a ... about them talking something, blah-blah-blah-blah..."
Expecting Nvidia to change into a consumer-friendly company, or even a reasonable one, is like asking a thief to give half of what he just robbed, to the charity.
It's just as much laughable.
1. They don't care.
2. They (the bosses of Nvidia) have no idea about gaming, and think that whatever we say is just a non-realistic mambo-jumbo spoken by some adults who treat computer games too seriously.
Just look at Ubisoft. Guess what will they understand from cheating (AC:Unity) and having the best quarter financially. Guess if Ubisoft attidute will change in 2015 and 2016...
Nvidia is the same.
And as it is for example with Rayman and Ubisoft - great products published by the worst company, the same is with Nvidia. Great people are working hard and well, great products are designed, great features added, but people having no idea about gaming community, are making the decisions. Don't get your hopes up. Have you heard about fake rice produced in China? Well, people who steer Nvidia have really similar morals.
"-Some people won't play their games at 120Hz/3D? Or maybe something won't work right? Oh booo-hooo, what a pity, get lost you sucker! Come back when you'll have some money to waste!"
Your text is both very good and useless at the same time.
The reason Nvidia exist: grab more money, grab MORE money!
The argument about earning more by actually caring, after the translation done by their "experts", analysts, and other idiots who never played even an hour in 3D:
"Blah-blah-blah-blah, silly naive gamers who think anyone here gives a ... about them talking something, blah-blah-blah-blah..."
Expecting Nvidia to change into a consumer-friendly company, or even a reasonable one, is like asking a thief to give half of what he just robbed, to the charity.
It's just as much laughable.
1. They don't care.
2. They (the bosses of Nvidia) have no idea about gaming, and think that whatever we say is just a non-realistic mambo-jumbo spoken by some adults who treat computer games too seriously.
Just look at Ubisoft. Guess what will they understand from cheating (AC:Unity) and having the best quarter financially. Guess if Ubisoft attidute will change in 2015 and 2016...
Nvidia is the same.
And as it is for example with Rayman and Ubisoft - great products published by the worst company, the same is with Nvidia. Great people are working hard and well, great products are designed, great features added, but people having no idea about gaming community, are making the decisions. Don't get your hopes up. Have you heard about fake rice produced in China? Well, people who steer Nvidia have really similar morals.
"-Some people won't play their games at 120Hz/3D? Or maybe something won't work right? Oh booo-hooo, what a pity, get lost you sucker! Come back when you'll have some money to waste!"
3DTV Play's decision to force a 24 Hz Desktop effectively makes its only high resolution gaming mode - 1080p24 - crippled to the point that this mode does not work well for a NUMBER of 3D HDTVs and UHD TVs. As I mentioned in another topic, input lags of around 50 msec start making any control/display combination seem sluggish, so 13 msec is a LARGE, unnecessary addition for gaming controls - added because the Desktop is NOT 60 Hz! SBS and TB formats still remain unavailable as an option, as well.
As long as CPU/GPU can provide consistent 24 fps (ultra graphics), some people like me would prefer to game using highest possible resolution - but only if input lags are acceptable! By the way, this same 24 fps issue could arise for active 4K UHD displays, since HDMI 2.0 spec supports up to 4096×2160p24 full-frame 3D (not 30 or 60 fps).
3DTV Play's decision to force a 24 Hz Desktop effectively makes its only high resolution gaming mode - 1080p24 - crippled to the point that this mode does not work well for a NUMBER of 3D HDTVs and UHD TVs. As I mentioned in another topic, input lags of around 50 msec start making any control/display combination seem sluggish, so 13 msec is a LARGE, unnecessary addition for gaming controls - added because the Desktop is NOT 60 Hz! SBS and TB formats still remain unavailable as an option, as well.
As long as CPU/GPU can provide consistent 24 fps (ultra graphics), some people like me would prefer to game using highest possible resolution - but only if input lags are acceptable! By the way, this same 24 fps issue could arise for active 4K UHD displays, since HDMI 2.0 spec supports up to 4096×2160p24 full-frame 3D (not 30 or 60 fps).
I continue interacting with NVIDIA Customer Care, but the response has been slow - even when faced with 3DTV Play's 1080p24 13 msec technical bug, invalidating my need for my new GTX980 hardware and 3DTV Play. 3DTV Play is capable of SO MUCH more than it currently provides.
I hope other resolution enthusiasts (like Xizer) also continue to routinely contact NVIDIA Customer Care by phone/email, to encourage an update to 3DTV Play. It really should support the highest resolution consumer 3D displays currently available - UHD displays, since they require the most expensive GTX configurations. 3DTV Play should be updated to support HDMI 2.0 interfaces, offer format selection (like full frame 1080p @ 60 Hz, 4K/1080p interlace, SBS, or TB @ 60 HZ, and full-frame 4K @ 24 Hz), and decouple controls from display (60 Hz Desktop) to greatly improve 24 Hz mode responsiveness for both HDMI 1.4a and HDMI 2.0 displays.
Note that prices for UHD TVs continue to fall, since lack of 4K content continues to impede consumer interest - new UHD content pricing policies like those for Netflix 4K/UHD are NOT helping adoption. However, UHD TVs serve as great 3D gaming displays, where PCs have the potential to uniquely provide 4K 3D content.
I continue interacting with NVIDIA Customer Care, but the response has been slow - even when faced with 3DTV Play's 1080p24 13 msec technical bug, invalidating my need for my new GTX980 hardware and 3DTV Play. 3DTV Play is capable of SO MUCH more than it currently provides.
I hope other resolution enthusiasts (like Xizer) also continue to routinely contact NVIDIA Customer Care by phone/email, to encourage an update to 3DTV Play. It really should support the highest resolution consumer 3D displays currently available - UHD displays, since they require the most expensive GTX configurations. 3DTV Play should be updated to support HDMI 2.0 interfaces, offer format selection (like full frame 1080p @ 60 Hz, 4K/1080p interlace, SBS, or TB @ 60 HZ, and full-frame 4K @ 24 Hz), and decouple controls from display (60 Hz Desktop) to greatly improve 24 Hz mode responsiveness for both HDMI 1.4a and HDMI 2.0 displays.
Note that prices for UHD TVs continue to fall, since lack of 4K content continues to impede consumer interest - new UHD content pricing policies like those for Netflix 4K/UHD are NOT helping adoption. However, UHD TVs serve as great 3D gaming displays, where PCs have the potential to uniquely provide 4K 3D content.
Contacted second-level NVIDIA Customer Care about 3DTV Play's 24 Hz Desktop constraint again. He indicated that engineering would be looking at this discussion thread.
Since this site's web form tools do not allow easy image import (at least, I could not find any discussion about how to import images/video), see my March 17 posting at [url]http://www.tridef.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=6103&p=26028#p26028[/url] for more accurate timing assessment, including both 60 Hz control sampling and 60 Hz game operation. For this normal Ignition setting, I believe Ignition is 1/24 - (1/60 + 1/120) sec or 16.7 msec (statistical average) faster than 3DTV Play when using 1080p24 HDMI mode.
I found a user on avsforum.com who recently measured the input lag for a comparable display to my LG UB9500. Unfortunately, even with recent 20 msec improvement (via firmware update), its input lag is still around 55 msec. So, 3DTV Play's additional 17 msec lag makes 1080p gaming unplayable on this great 3D display!
Contacted second-level NVIDIA Customer Care about 3DTV Play's 24 Hz Desktop constraint again. He indicated that engineering would be looking at this discussion thread.
Since this site's web form tools do not allow easy image import (at least, I could not find any discussion about how to import images/video), see my March 17 posting at http://www.tridef.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=6103&p=26028#p26028 for more accurate timing assessment, including both 60 Hz control sampling and 60 Hz game operation. For this normal Ignition setting, I believe Ignition is 1/24 - (1/60 + 1/120) sec or 16.7 msec (statistical average) faster than 3DTV Play when using 1080p24 HDMI mode.
I found a user on avsforum.com who recently measured the input lag for a comparable display to my LG UB9500. Unfortunately, even with recent 20 msec improvement (via firmware update), its input lag is still around 55 msec. So, 3DTV Play's additional 17 msec lag makes 1080p gaming unplayable on this great 3D display!
LG UB9500 3D performance has been GREAT with EDID mod and 3DVisionEye Swapper application described at [url]https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/818183/3d-vision/gtx-970-4k-3d-vision-gaming-success-with-lgub850v-passive-tv-/post/4510149/#4510149[/url]. This mod enables use of Optimized for NVIDIA GeForce for 3D display, rather than 3DTV Play - including interleaved 3840x2160 display (3840x1080 each eye) at 60 fps.
Unfortunately, active UHD TVs (like Samsung's) still require an update to 3DTV Play to display 3840x2160 (at 24 fps) - especially the change to allow 60 Hz Desktop and game settings when using 3DTV Play. Otherwise, all 3DTV Play enabled games will continue to have an additional 17 msec lag, when using 24 fps display mode.
Unfortunately, active UHD TVs (like Samsung's) still require an update to 3DTV Play to display 3840x2160 (at 24 fps) - especially the change to allow 60 Hz Desktop and game settings when using 3DTV Play. Otherwise, all 3DTV Play enabled games will continue to have an additional 17 msec lag, when using 24 fps display mode.
[quote="whyme466"]LG UB9500 3D performance has been GREAT with EDID mod and 3DVisionEye Swapper application described at [url]https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/818183/3d-vision/gtx-970-4k-3d-vision-gaming-success-with-lgub850v-passive-tv-/post/4510149/#4510149[/url]. This mod enables use of Optimized for NVIDIA GeForce for 3D display, rather than 3DTV Play - including interleaved 3840x2160 display (3840x1080 each eye) at 60 fps.
Unfortunately, active UHD TVs (like Samsung's) still require an update to 3DTV Play to display 3840x2160 (at 24 fps) - especially the change to allow 60 Hz Desktop and game settings when using 3DTV Play. Otherwise, all 3DTV Play enabled games will continue to have an additional 17 msec lag, when using 24 fps display mode.[/quote]
It also has 73 ms of input lag in gaming mode. Goodness knows how high it is in 3D mode.
Unfortunately, active UHD TVs (like Samsung's) still require an update to 3DTV Play to display 3840x2160 (at 24 fps) - especially the change to allow 60 Hz Desktop and game settings when using 3DTV Play. Otherwise, all 3DTV Play enabled games will continue to have an additional 17 msec lag, when using 24 fps display mode.
It also has 73 ms of input lag in gaming mode. Goodness knows how high it is in 3D mode.
[quote="Paul33993"]It also has 73 ms of input lag in gaming mode. Goodness knows how high it is in 3D mode.[/quote]Please read comment #37 - lag is 55 msec, after recent firmware update (not ideal, but acceptable, given overall picture size/quality/color performance/ghosting).
Paul33993 said:It also has 73 ms of input lag in gaming mode. Goodness knows how high it is in 3D mode.
Please read comment #37 - lag is 55 msec, after recent firmware update (not ideal, but acceptable, given overall picture size/quality/color performance/ghosting).
I have been using the checkerboard mode on my new un78hu9000 and have been relatively happy with it. I do wish I could enjoy 1080p 60fps full 3d, but I have just about zero faith that Nvidia will ever update the 3dplay software at this point. 3d has come in gone in the eyes of most tech companies.
I have been using the checkerboard mode on my new un78hu9000 and have been relatively happy with it. I do wish I could enjoy 1080p 60fps full 3d, but I have just about zero faith that Nvidia will ever update the 3dplay software at this point. 3d has come in gone in the eyes of most tech companies.
Asus Maximus Hero VII
i7 4790k @ 4.8ghz
SLI MSI Gaming 980 @ 1.5ghz
16gb Gskill @ 2400mhz
2x Samsung 840 500gb
Corsair HX1000i
Custom water loop
un78hu9000 with 3dplay on checkerboard 1080p
Just to add my voice to the thread.
I have the Samsung UE65HU8200 and being limited to 720p through HDMI 2 is a sad joke. The TV has brilliant scaling, but there is no way to hide the fact that 720p looks terrible on a 4k screen, and 1080 24 is just unplayable.
I have the Samsung UE65HU8200 and being limited to 720p through HDMI 2 is a sad joke. The TV has brilliant scaling, but there is no way to hide the fact that 720p looks terrible on a 4k screen, and 1080 24 is just unplayable.
It would be nice to be able to see 4k in 3d given that we can shoot that with cheap cameras like the gopro hero 3 + black. 4k as a monitor is a great idea given that its right in your face. Anyone with eyes can tell 4k looks better by going to any tv store. Sure, you need to get close, duh. 4k over 3dvision would be great. Hopefully, there is some support for that coming up at some point.
It would be nice to be able to see 4k in 3d given that we can shoot that with cheap cameras like the gopro hero 3 + black. 4k as a monitor is a great idea given that its right in your face. Anyone with eyes can tell 4k looks better by going to any tv store. Sure, you need to get close, duh. 4k over 3dvision would be great. Hopefully, there is some support for that coming up at some point.
I created a ticket, I mean I am not entirely convinced it will assist but one must try. With VR heating up and nvidia's commitment to it I can only assume that the need for more stereoscopy support may well be able to translate over to 3D Vision services and as such I do not see a good reason not to continue supporting the software especially as basic compatability should increase.
I created a ticket, I mean I am not entirely convinced it will assist but one must try. With VR heating up and nvidia's commitment to it I can only assume that the need for more stereoscopy support may well be able to translate over to 3D Vision services and as such I do not see a good reason not to continue supporting the software especially as basic compatability should increase.
I hope NVIDIA embraces 3D again, instead of simply relying upon the superb efforts of some its talented user community, like bo3b and helifax. Any of the pending VR/AR head mounted displays potentially releasing this year (see http://www.gamespot.com/videos/reality-check-hololens-vs-oculus-rift-and-the-futu/2300-6423294/ ) need artifact-free rendered 3D VR environments and AR objects. Note that as bo3b (and Table 1 above) indicate, inadequate visual resolution may be a bigger issue than FOV for some of these devices, at least at launch.
Broken 3D bluray playback
Black screen on windows startup.
The 970 memory fiasco. (3.5 gb with 0.5 cache marketed as 4gb)
Can't be bothered to update 3dtvplay to support hdmi 2.0. (Probably due to them making more money selling monitors or some other greedy reason)
Zero SLI scaling in 9 out of 10 games or you might have to wait 3 months for one (which won't work in few driver versions again)
No 3D vision games. They have to let members of the community do it as they: don't have the skills/can't be bothered/dont care (whatever the weak sauce justification they won't give us the privilege of hearing)
I've just about had enough of nvidia.
If they:
fix all the terrible bugs in their drivers as of late, start actually pushing/supporting and implementing their technologies in game (SLI, 3D etc)
Manage to get both my screens to turn on without me having to restart my pc 10 times
Stop chicken feeding us new cards with crippled performance at rip off prices
I have a really bad experience with my next card (which will be an AMD)
And they actually started communicating in their own forum with their customers who are handing over thousands of pounds every year/few years who are being ignored for no benefit of either party.....
I still wouldn't go back to nvidia.
I've been a loyal customer for 10 years but I've had it. They need to rewrite the drivers from scratch/hire the talent they got rid of/whatever the reasons these last 3 months have had terrible driver and nvidia technology support in games.
We don't need nvidia grass or hbao+ or ray tracing glasses just yet, we want the products we bought to work in the way you advertised them to work, we also want support for your technologies and communication/help/support on your forums.
Give something back for once nvidia. You might even make more money doing so!
3D gaming on a 4k screen is going to take a lot more gfx grunt than 720p after all!
The reason Nvidia exist: grab more money, grab MORE money!
The argument about earning more by actually caring, after the translation done by their "experts", analysts, and other idiots who never played even an hour in 3D:
"Blah-blah-blah-blah, silly naive gamers who think anyone here gives a ... about them talking something, blah-blah-blah-blah..."
Expecting Nvidia to change into a consumer-friendly company, or even a reasonable one, is like asking a thief to give half of what he just robbed, to the charity.
It's just as much laughable.
1. They don't care.
2. They (the bosses of Nvidia) have no idea about gaming, and think that whatever we say is just a non-realistic mambo-jumbo spoken by some adults who treat computer games too seriously.
Just look at Ubisoft. Guess what will they understand from cheating (AC:Unity) and having the best quarter financially. Guess if Ubisoft attidute will change in 2015 and 2016...
Nvidia is the same.
And as it is for example with Rayman and Ubisoft - great products published by the worst company, the same is with Nvidia. Great people are working hard and well, great products are designed, great features added, but people having no idea about gaming community, are making the decisions. Don't get your hopes up. Have you heard about fake rice produced in China? Well, people who steer Nvidia have really similar morals.
"-Some people won't play their games at 120Hz/3D? Or maybe something won't work right? Oh booo-hooo, what a pity, get lost you sucker! Come back when you'll have some money to waste!"
As long as CPU/GPU can provide consistent 24 fps (ultra graphics), some people like me would prefer to game using highest possible resolution - but only if input lags are acceptable! By the way, this same 24 fps issue could arise for active 4K UHD displays, since HDMI 2.0 spec supports up to 4096×2160p24 full-frame 3D (not 30 or 60 fps).
I hope other resolution enthusiasts (like Xizer) also continue to routinely contact NVIDIA Customer Care by phone/email, to encourage an update to 3DTV Play. It really should support the highest resolution consumer 3D displays currently available - UHD displays, since they require the most expensive GTX configurations. 3DTV Play should be updated to support HDMI 2.0 interfaces, offer format selection (like full frame 1080p @ 60 Hz, 4K/1080p interlace, SBS, or TB @ 60 HZ, and full-frame 4K @ 24 Hz), and decouple controls from display (60 Hz Desktop) to greatly improve 24 Hz mode responsiveness for both HDMI 1.4a and HDMI 2.0 displays.
Note that prices for UHD TVs continue to fall, since lack of 4K content continues to impede consumer interest - new UHD content pricing policies like those for Netflix 4K/UHD are NOT helping adoption. However, UHD TVs serve as great 3D gaming displays, where PCs have the potential to uniquely provide 4K 3D content.
Since this site's web form tools do not allow easy image import (at least, I could not find any discussion about how to import images/video), see my March 17 posting at http://www.tridef.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=6103&p=26028#p26028 for more accurate timing assessment, including both 60 Hz control sampling and 60 Hz game operation. For this normal Ignition setting, I believe Ignition is 1/24 - (1/60 + 1/120) sec or 16.7 msec (statistical average) faster than 3DTV Play when using 1080p24 HDMI mode.
I found a user on avsforum.com who recently measured the input lag for a comparable display to my LG UB9500. Unfortunately, even with recent 20 msec improvement (via firmware update), its input lag is still around 55 msec. So, 3DTV Play's additional 17 msec lag makes 1080p gaming unplayable on this great 3D display!
Unfortunately, active UHD TVs (like Samsung's) still require an update to 3DTV Play to display 3840x2160 (at 24 fps) - especially the change to allow 60 Hz Desktop and game settings when using 3DTV Play. Otherwise, all 3DTV Play enabled games will continue to have an additional 17 msec lag, when using 24 fps display mode.
It also has 73 ms of input lag in gaming mode. Goodness knows how high it is in 3D mode.
Asus Maximus Hero VII
i7 4790k @ 4.8ghz
SLI MSI Gaming 980 @ 1.5ghz
16gb Gskill @ 2400mhz
2x Samsung 840 500gb
Corsair HX1000i
Custom water loop
un78hu9000 with 3dplay on checkerboard 1080p
I have the Samsung UE65HU8200 and being limited to 720p through HDMI 2 is a sad joke. The TV has brilliant scaling, but there is no way to hide the fact that 720p looks terrible on a 4k screen, and 1080 24 is just unplayable.
i7 4790k @ 4.6 - 16GB RAM - 2x SLI Titan X
27" ASUS ROG SWIFT, 28" - 65" Samsung UHD8200 4k 3DTV - Oculus Rift CV1 - 34" Acer Predator X34 Ultrawide
Old kit:
i5 2500k @ 4.4 - 8gb RAM
Acer H5360BD projector
GTX 580, SLI 670, GTX 980 EVGA SC
Acer XB280HK 4k 60hz
Oculus DK2