OnLive and 3D any considering getting this?
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I'm sure most of you know what OnLive is, and if you don't, here's a quick recap:

A cloud gaming client you install either on your pc or use a box adapter they provide to hook up to the TV. The pros? Well if your not to fussed about getting higher resolutions over 720p, then this can save you a fortune as you would have no need to buy an expensive gaming pc.

So i was wondering if it would support 3d content, and after reading an interview they said it would, provided you have the specific hardware (3D TV etc). The cons? If you have a crapty internet connection, your gonna suffer. But if your lucky enough to be on a fibre optic line, your laughing.

What does everyone think of this technology? Is this the future?
I'm sure most of you know what OnLive is, and if you don't, here's a quick recap:



A cloud gaming client you install either on your pc or use a box adapter they provide to hook up to the TV. The pros? Well if your not to fussed about getting higher resolutions over 720p, then this can save you a fortune as you would have no need to buy an expensive gaming pc.



So i was wondering if it would support 3d content, and after reading an interview they said it would, provided you have the specific hardware (3D TV etc). The cons? If you have a crapty internet connection, your gonna suffer. But if your lucky enough to be on a fibre optic line, your laughing.



What does everyone think of this technology? Is this the future?

#1
Posted 11/18/2010 12:54 PM   
I'm sure most of you know what OnLive is, and if you don't, here's a quick recap:

A cloud gaming client you install either on your pc or use a box adapter they provide to hook up to the TV. The pros? Well if your not to fussed about getting higher resolutions over 720p, then this can save you a fortune as you would have no need to buy an expensive gaming pc.

So i was wondering if it would support 3d content, and after reading an interview they said it would, provided you have the specific hardware (3D TV etc). The cons? If you have a crapty internet connection, your gonna suffer. But if your lucky enough to be on a fibre optic line, your laughing.

What does everyone think of this technology? Is this the future?
I'm sure most of you know what OnLive is, and if you don't, here's a quick recap:



A cloud gaming client you install either on your pc or use a box adapter they provide to hook up to the TV. The pros? Well if your not to fussed about getting higher resolutions over 720p, then this can save you a fortune as you would have no need to buy an expensive gaming pc.



So i was wondering if it would support 3d content, and after reading an interview they said it would, provided you have the specific hardware (3D TV etc). The cons? If you have a crapty internet connection, your gonna suffer. But if your lucky enough to be on a fibre optic line, your laughing.



What does everyone think of this technology? Is this the future?

#2
Posted 11/18/2010 12:54 PM   
[quote name='dandesign' date='18 November 2010 - 06:54 AM' timestamp='1290084857' post='1148320']
I'm sure most of you know what OnLive is, and if you don't, here's a quick recap:

A cloud gaming client you install either on your pc or use a box adapter they provide to hook up to the TV. The pros? Well if your not to fussed about getting higher resolutions over 720p, then this can save you a fortune as you would have no need to buy an expensive gaming pc.

So i was wondering if it would support 3d content, and after reading an interview they said it would, provided you have the specific hardware (3D TV etc). The cons? If you have a crapty internet connection, your gonna suffer. But if your lucky enough to be on a fibre optic line, your laughing.

What does everyone think of this technology? Is this the future?
[/quote]

I think the concept is awesome. As an avid PC gamer and machine builder, I'm pretty sure I'll always be building my own rigs and running locally, but for someone who doesn't want to keep up with new hardware (or it isn't practical, i.e. college student with a laptop), this service is perfect.

I signed up for the free one year trial of the service and have been having fun demoing games (they are %100 responsible for me buying Just Cause 2) whether at home on the overqualified gaming PC or on the road with the laptop (I even played over airport WiFi the other day). However, I haven't bought any games from the service, mostly because I play everything in 3D these days and they don't support it. If it was supported, that could make a big difference for me. Do you have a link to this interview?
[quote name='dandesign' date='18 November 2010 - 06:54 AM' timestamp='1290084857' post='1148320']

I'm sure most of you know what OnLive is, and if you don't, here's a quick recap:



A cloud gaming client you install either on your pc or use a box adapter they provide to hook up to the TV. The pros? Well if your not to fussed about getting higher resolutions over 720p, then this can save you a fortune as you would have no need to buy an expensive gaming pc.



So i was wondering if it would support 3d content, and after reading an interview they said it would, provided you have the specific hardware (3D TV etc). The cons? If you have a crapty internet connection, your gonna suffer. But if your lucky enough to be on a fibre optic line, your laughing.



What does everyone think of this technology? Is this the future?





I think the concept is awesome. As an avid PC gamer and machine builder, I'm pretty sure I'll always be building my own rigs and running locally, but for someone who doesn't want to keep up with new hardware (or it isn't practical, i.e. college student with a laptop), this service is perfect.



I signed up for the free one year trial of the service and have been having fun demoing games (they are %100 responsible for me buying Just Cause 2) whether at home on the overqualified gaming PC or on the road with the laptop (I even played over airport WiFi the other day). However, I haven't bought any games from the service, mostly because I play everything in 3D these days and they don't support it. If it was supported, that could make a big difference for me. Do you have a link to this interview?

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#3
Posted 11/18/2010 06:15 PM   
[quote name='dandesign' date='18 November 2010 - 06:54 AM' timestamp='1290084857' post='1148320']
I'm sure most of you know what OnLive is, and if you don't, here's a quick recap:

A cloud gaming client you install either on your pc or use a box adapter they provide to hook up to the TV. The pros? Well if your not to fussed about getting higher resolutions over 720p, then this can save you a fortune as you would have no need to buy an expensive gaming pc.

So i was wondering if it would support 3d content, and after reading an interview they said it would, provided you have the specific hardware (3D TV etc). The cons? If you have a crapty internet connection, your gonna suffer. But if your lucky enough to be on a fibre optic line, your laughing.

What does everyone think of this technology? Is this the future?
[/quote]

I think the concept is awesome. As an avid PC gamer and machine builder, I'm pretty sure I'll always be building my own rigs and running locally, but for someone who doesn't want to keep up with new hardware (or it isn't practical, i.e. college student with a laptop), this service is perfect.

I signed up for the free one year trial of the service and have been having fun demoing games (they are %100 responsible for me buying Just Cause 2) whether at home on the overqualified gaming PC or on the road with the laptop (I even played over airport WiFi the other day). However, I haven't bought any games from the service, mostly because I play everything in 3D these days and they don't support it. If it was supported, that could make a big difference for me. Do you have a link to this interview?
[quote name='dandesign' date='18 November 2010 - 06:54 AM' timestamp='1290084857' post='1148320']

I'm sure most of you know what OnLive is, and if you don't, here's a quick recap:



A cloud gaming client you install either on your pc or use a box adapter they provide to hook up to the TV. The pros? Well if your not to fussed about getting higher resolutions over 720p, then this can save you a fortune as you would have no need to buy an expensive gaming pc.



So i was wondering if it would support 3d content, and after reading an interview they said it would, provided you have the specific hardware (3D TV etc). The cons? If you have a crapty internet connection, your gonna suffer. But if your lucky enough to be on a fibre optic line, your laughing.



What does everyone think of this technology? Is this the future?





I think the concept is awesome. As an avid PC gamer and machine builder, I'm pretty sure I'll always be building my own rigs and running locally, but for someone who doesn't want to keep up with new hardware (or it isn't practical, i.e. college student with a laptop), this service is perfect.



I signed up for the free one year trial of the service and have been having fun demoing games (they are %100 responsible for me buying Just Cause 2) whether at home on the overqualified gaming PC or on the road with the laptop (I even played over airport WiFi the other day). However, I haven't bought any games from the service, mostly because I play everything in 3D these days and they don't support it. If it was supported, that could make a big difference for me. Do you have a link to this interview?

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Logitech G19 Keyboard, G9 Mouse, G25 Wheel
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#4
Posted 11/18/2010 06:15 PM   
The only kind of 3D this tech could support is video 2D to 3D conversion, which most will agree isn't very good. You are essentially getting a video of your game being played while you play...

If they were to support Nvidia 3D Vision properly, they will need to provide you with a hell of a lot more than 720p video signal. 1080p minimum for a 720p 3D gaming resolution...
The only kind of 3D this tech could support is video 2D to 3D conversion, which most will agree isn't very good. You are essentially getting a video of your game being played while you play...



If they were to support Nvidia 3D Vision properly, they will need to provide you with a hell of a lot more than 720p video signal. 1080p minimum for a 720p 3D gaming resolution...

#5
Posted 11/18/2010 06:52 PM   
The only kind of 3D this tech could support is video 2D to 3D conversion, which most will agree isn't very good. You are essentially getting a video of your game being played while you play...

If they were to support Nvidia 3D Vision properly, they will need to provide you with a hell of a lot more than 720p video signal. 1080p minimum for a 720p 3D gaming resolution...
The only kind of 3D this tech could support is video 2D to 3D conversion, which most will agree isn't very good. You are essentially getting a video of your game being played while you play...



If they were to support Nvidia 3D Vision properly, they will need to provide you with a hell of a lot more than 720p video signal. 1080p minimum for a 720p 3D gaming resolution...

#6
Posted 11/18/2010 06:52 PM   
[quote name='disolitude' date='18 November 2010 - 12:52 PM' timestamp='1290106327' post='1148478']
The only kind of 3D this tech could support is video 2D to 3D conversion, which most will agree isn't very good. You are essentially getting a video of your game being played while you play...

If they were to support Nvidia 3D Vision properly, they will need to provide you with a hell of a lot more than 720p video signal. 1080p minimum for a 720p 3D gaming resolution...
[/quote]

There may be smarter ways to do it than just sending double the picture (look up the Crysis 2 interviews on stereo 3D for example). Even if not, 3D with some sacrifice in picture quality or limits based on connection could at least get the baseline architecture in there while we wait for higher broadband speeds to proliferate.
[quote name='disolitude' date='18 November 2010 - 12:52 PM' timestamp='1290106327' post='1148478']

The only kind of 3D this tech could support is video 2D to 3D conversion, which most will agree isn't very good. You are essentially getting a video of your game being played while you play...



If they were to support Nvidia 3D Vision properly, they will need to provide you with a hell of a lot more than 720p video signal. 1080p minimum for a 720p 3D gaming resolution...





There may be smarter ways to do it than just sending double the picture (look up the Crysis 2 interviews on stereo 3D for example). Even if not, 3D with some sacrifice in picture quality or limits based on connection could at least get the baseline architecture in there while we wait for higher broadband speeds to proliferate.

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#7
Posted 11/18/2010 08:28 PM   
[quote name='disolitude' date='18 November 2010 - 12:52 PM' timestamp='1290106327' post='1148478']
The only kind of 3D this tech could support is video 2D to 3D conversion, which most will agree isn't very good. You are essentially getting a video of your game being played while you play...

If they were to support Nvidia 3D Vision properly, they will need to provide you with a hell of a lot more than 720p video signal. 1080p minimum for a 720p 3D gaming resolution...
[/quote]

There may be smarter ways to do it than just sending double the picture (look up the Crysis 2 interviews on stereo 3D for example). Even if not, 3D with some sacrifice in picture quality or limits based on connection could at least get the baseline architecture in there while we wait for higher broadband speeds to proliferate.
[quote name='disolitude' date='18 November 2010 - 12:52 PM' timestamp='1290106327' post='1148478']

The only kind of 3D this tech could support is video 2D to 3D conversion, which most will agree isn't very good. You are essentially getting a video of your game being played while you play...



If they were to support Nvidia 3D Vision properly, they will need to provide you with a hell of a lot more than 720p video signal. 1080p minimum for a 720p 3D gaming resolution...





There may be smarter ways to do it than just sending double the picture (look up the Crysis 2 interviews on stereo 3D for example). Even if not, 3D with some sacrifice in picture quality or limits based on connection could at least get the baseline architecture in there while we wait for higher broadband speeds to proliferate.

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#8
Posted 11/18/2010 08:28 PM   
Maybe with the next revision of their hardware. At the moment the device only outputs 1080P 60 frames per second which means the 3D would look about on par with Sony's PlayStation 3. So far the PC is the only way to get 60 frames per eye with high resolution and it seems like it will stay that way for some time.
Maybe with the next revision of their hardware. At the moment the device only outputs 1080P 60 frames per second which means the 3D would look about on par with Sony's PlayStation 3. So far the PC is the only way to get 60 frames per eye with high resolution and it seems like it will stay that way for some time.

#9
Posted 11/19/2010 05:45 AM   
Maybe with the next revision of their hardware. At the moment the device only outputs 1080P 60 frames per second which means the 3D would look about on par with Sony's PlayStation 3. So far the PC is the only way to get 60 frames per eye with high resolution and it seems like it will stay that way for some time.
Maybe with the next revision of their hardware. At the moment the device only outputs 1080P 60 frames per second which means the 3D would look about on par with Sony's PlayStation 3. So far the PC is the only way to get 60 frames per eye with high resolution and it seems like it will stay that way for some time.

#10
Posted 11/19/2010 05:45 AM   
FormulaRedline, the link is http://www.gamertell.com/gaming/comment/onlive-is-3d-and-motion-control-ready/

#11
Posted 11/19/2010 08:42 AM   
FormulaRedline, the link is http://www.gamertell.com/gaming/comment/onlive-is-3d-and-motion-control-ready/

#12
Posted 11/19/2010 08:42 AM   
[quote name='dandesign' date='19 November 2010 - 03:42 AM' timestamp='1290156123' post='1148731']
FormulaRedline, the link is http://www.gamertell.com/gaming/comment/onlive-is-3d-and-motion-control-ready/
[/quote]
I don't see this service being 3d ready for a while. I have then fastest internet you can buy in Canada and I played around with the Onlive demos yesterday. Visual quality is definitely sub par consoles. Sub 720p fuzzy resolution for most games. Some games like Fear 2 which have lots of particle effect look really bad and pixelated. I have no idea how they plan on implementing 3D but they will surely struggle to deliver true 1080p video quality at this rate.
[quote name='dandesign' date='19 November 2010 - 03:42 AM' timestamp='1290156123' post='1148731']

FormulaRedline, the link is http://www.gamertell.com/gaming/comment/onlive-is-3d-and-motion-control-ready/



I don't see this service being 3d ready for a while. I have then fastest internet you can buy in Canada and I played around with the Onlive demos yesterday. Visual quality is definitely sub par consoles. Sub 720p fuzzy resolution for most games. Some games like Fear 2 which have lots of particle effect look really bad and pixelated. I have no idea how they plan on implementing 3D but they will surely struggle to deliver true 1080p video quality at this rate.

#13
Posted 11/19/2010 08:42 PM   
[quote name='dandesign' date='19 November 2010 - 03:42 AM' timestamp='1290156123' post='1148731']
FormulaRedline, the link is http://www.gamertell.com/gaming/comment/onlive-is-3d-and-motion-control-ready/
[/quote]
I don't see this service being 3d ready for a while. I have then fastest internet you can buy in Canada and I played around with the Onlive demos yesterday. Visual quality is definitely sub par consoles. Sub 720p fuzzy resolution for most games. Some games like Fear 2 which have lots of particle effect look really bad and pixelated. I have no idea how they plan on implementing 3D but they will surely struggle to deliver true 1080p video quality at this rate.
[quote name='dandesign' date='19 November 2010 - 03:42 AM' timestamp='1290156123' post='1148731']

FormulaRedline, the link is http://www.gamertell.com/gaming/comment/onlive-is-3d-and-motion-control-ready/



I don't see this service being 3d ready for a while. I have then fastest internet you can buy in Canada and I played around with the Onlive demos yesterday. Visual quality is definitely sub par consoles. Sub 720p fuzzy resolution for most games. Some games like Fear 2 which have lots of particle effect look really bad and pixelated. I have no idea how they plan on implementing 3D but they will surely struggle to deliver true 1080p video quality at this rate.

#14
Posted 11/19/2010 08:42 PM   
is it really sub par consoles graphics? hmm thats not good. especially since u have great net connection to. Suppose I'll buy a proper desktop computer then for xmas :)
is it really sub par consoles graphics? hmm thats not good. especially since u have great net connection to. Suppose I'll buy a proper desktop computer then for xmas :)

#15
Posted 11/19/2010 10:27 PM   
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