Wow Tritosine,you made it sound that lcd´s are a totally waste of money ?!!!?
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80 % more darkness ?..more like 10/20% at most ,and btw don´t you need a total dark room for a projector to see all the detail ?
But who cares what everybody (me included) is thinking..? lcd´s are good and projectors are good,they both have they good and bad things...it just depends on what you want ,and what kind of space you have,and money is a big part too.
I like to sit on a chair behind my desk ,I want to play games,photoshop,play music ,and many other things just behind my desktop,..so I bought a lcd screen that works good with both 2d and 3d setup.
Well on the other hand ,if someone likes to sit on a couch with an xbox controller,has a big room,maybe then a projector comes in mind.
But you don´t need to scare of newcomers ..saying lcd screen don´t work,and they need to buy projectors !?
Maybe better give some good advice,..and I don´t like to argue..because it´s hard for me to type in English..but this forum is beginning to look more like a fanboys club at youtube.
Wow Tritosine,you made it sound that lcd´s are a totally waste of money ?!!!?
Talk aboud Fanboys...lol :)
80 % more darkness ?..more like 10/20% at most ,and btw don´t you need a total dark room for a projector to see all the detail ?
But who cares what everybody (me included) is thinking..? lcd´s are good and projectors are good,they both have they good and bad things...it just depends on what you want ,and what kind of space you have,and money is a big part too.
I like to sit on a chair behind my desk ,I want to play games,photoshop,play music ,and many other things just behind my desktop,..so I bought a lcd screen that works good with both 2d and 3d setup.
Well on the other hand ,if someone likes to sit on a couch with an xbox controller,has a big room,maybe then a projector comes in mind.
But you don´t need to scare of newcomers ..saying lcd screen don´t work,and they need to buy projectors !?
Maybe better give some good advice,..and I don´t like to argue..because it´s hard for me to type in English..but this forum is beginning to look more like a fanboys club at youtube.
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Maybe you guys should recalibrate your eyes, cause the glasses have less than 40% transmittance, then shuttering takes away another 50%.
With LCD monitors , where the light is polarized to begin with, the transmittance is higher, but the shuttering takes away more , cause the duty cycle is different. So, overall, they are quite close ;)
And BTW, the low luma eye strain stuff, I took that part from somewhere. Who wrote it, came up with the idea and developed infrared LC shutterglasses in 80's.
Fanboy huh ? : )))
[quote]I’m of the opinion that there is really no excuse for stereoscopic images being projected any less bright than 2-D images. I don’t think something special is going on that makes it okay to have low light levels for 3-D (...)[/quote]
[url="http://lennylipton.wordpress.com/2009/11/09/the-silver-screen-part-2/"]Source[/url]
Maybe you guys should recalibrate your eyes, cause the glasses have less than 40% transmittance, then shuttering takes away another 50%.
With LCD monitors , where the light is polarized to begin with, the transmittance is higher, but the shuttering takes away more , cause the duty cycle is different. So, overall, they are quite close ;)
And BTW, the low luma eye strain stuff, I took that part from somewhere. Who wrote it, came up with the idea and developed infrared LC shutterglasses in 80's.
Fanboy huh ? : )))
I’m of the opinion that there is really no excuse for stereoscopic images being projected any less bright than 2-D images. I don’t think something special is going on that makes it okay to have low light levels for 3-D (...)
that article is about projectors, not monitors
we dont have time or resources to use a projector, we like the convenience and resolution of a simple monitor on the desk
as for the glasses, for the 2232rz, they are on for 4ms every 16ms, so thats 25% of original brightness, however the monitors go ultra bright when 3d is on anyway, so it's dark, but not that dark.
the flicker is unpercievable once you get used to it, i cant see it anymore (i did see it a lot when i first started using 3d vision)
the only problems remaining now is that the lenses opacity fades from the center onto the edges, so the glasses actually introduce all the light/dark ghosting there is, which is why im waiting to see how xpand 103s fare
and of course, the monitors refresh from bottom to top, so there's increased ghosting on the top, but that doesn't bother me anymore, the glasses ghosting bothers me much more
we dont have time or resources to use a projector, we like the convenience and resolution of a simple monitor on the desk
as for the glasses, for the 2232rz, they are on for 4ms every 16ms, so thats 25% of original brightness, however the monitors go ultra bright when 3d is on anyway, so it's dark, but not that dark.
the flicker is unpercievable once you get used to it, i cant see it anymore (i did see it a lot when i first started using 3d vision)
the only problems remaining now is that the lenses opacity fades from the center onto the edges, so the glasses actually introduce all the light/dark ghosting there is, which is why im waiting to see how xpand 103s fare
and of course, the monitors refresh from bottom to top, so there's increased ghosting on the top, but that doesn't bother me anymore, the glasses ghosting bothers me much more
Btw I'm also a little confused here,don't you use shutterglasses with projector screens aswell ?
So....,then you have the same darkening with projector screen as with lcd screens..not ?
he is talking about silver screens so i dont know
he might be using a dual pj setup
DLP projectors, same as DLP tvs, use shutters, but at a 50/50 ratio, at the loss of half the resolution
so there's not that much light loss compared to the 25/75 ratio of LCD shuttering
Yea.... but the only way you could get 3D to work with a projector setup WITHOUT using shutter glasses is by going the same route as they do in movie theaters equipped to display 3D movies... using circular polarized lenses.... which still cut down on light transmission..... and i'm pretty sure wouldn't be cheap to do, either.
As for Tritosine's seemingly meaningless and mis-informed rant.... i've used shutter glasses.... and they don't cut down THAT MUCH on the brighness of the display. room brightness, maybe.... since last time i checked, your walls aren't a source of light.... but i've seen movies in 3D on HDTV's with shutter glasses, and it's not all that much of a brightness-killer. As for:
[quote name='Tritosine']"Sacrificing resolution in 3d" - what a joke. In fact I want to coin a term for this kind of pixel obsession, just like I did with "mickey mouse 3d" . Anyone wants to help?[/quote]
that.... Why are you trying to make a skewed point by putting words into someone's mouth? He never said "sacrificing resolution in 3D". Hell... he didn't even mention 3D in that post. I'm pretty sure what he was getting at is the idea that unless you're really willing to spend out the yang.... you're not going to be getting a 1080p projector, let alone one that supports 3D of any kind.
Yea.... but the only way you could get 3D to work with a projector setup WITHOUT using shutter glasses is by going the same route as they do in movie theaters equipped to display 3D movies... using circular polarized lenses.... which still cut down on light transmission..... and i'm pretty sure wouldn't be cheap to do, either.
As for Tritosine's seemingly meaningless and mis-informed rant.... i've used shutter glasses.... and they don't cut down THAT MUCH on the brighness of the display. room brightness, maybe.... since last time i checked, your walls aren't a source of light.... but i've seen movies in 3D on HDTV's with shutter glasses, and it's not all that much of a brightness-killer. As for:
Tritosine said:"Sacrificing resolution in 3d" - what a joke. In fact I want to coin a term for this kind of pixel obsession, just like I did with "mickey mouse 3d" . Anyone wants to help?
that.... Why are you trying to make a skewed point by putting words into someone's mouth? He never said "sacrificing resolution in 3D". Hell... he didn't even mention 3D in that post. I'm pretty sure what he was getting at is the idea that unless you're really willing to spend out the yang.... you're not going to be getting a 1080p projector, let alone one that supports 3D of any kind.
[quote name='rajkoderp' post='1096028' date='Jul 30 2010, 05:16 AM']DLP, checkerboard input DLP atleast, does make you lose half the resolution, so think about that as well[/quote]
-I prefer native 720p, never saw checkerboard, those TV's arent sold in europe. You can compensate for brightness loss with pj's with a high gain reflective screen, yeah, thats a silverscreen, works with shutters just fine, and light loss is compensated entirely. Black frame insertion is no problem to your eyes, luma is!
As for the rest of the stuff, LOL , I have better things to do with my time, than beating a dead horse. I can't argue with things like:
1. " NO IT CAN't be THAT BAD!" yes it is. Its beyond me , how one can pretend these shutters arent eating away light the way they do. Get real... ( sure you don't have some funny things to do with marketing departments here &there? I am misinformed? Ad hominem much?)
2. " pixelcount is like sound system watt's just like internet connection speed!! " - whereas in reality , hahaha, you'd cry if you knew how useless it is in s3d , lets just say that, they perfectly depicted with hdmi 1.4, how useless it is.
[quote name='rajkoderp' post='1096028' date='Jul 30 2010, 05:16 AM']DLP, checkerboard input DLP atleast, does make you lose half the resolution, so think about that as well
-I prefer native 720p, never saw checkerboard, those TV's arent sold in europe. You can compensate for brightness loss with pj's with a high gain reflective screen, yeah, thats a silverscreen, works with shutters just fine, and light loss is compensated entirely. Black frame insertion is no problem to your eyes, luma is!
As for the rest of the stuff, LOL , I have better things to do with my time, than beating a dead horse. I can't argue with things like:
1. " NO IT CAN't be THAT BAD!" yes it is. Its beyond me , how one can pretend these shutters arent eating away light the way they do. Get real... ( sure you don't have some funny things to do with marketing departments here &there? I am misinformed? Ad hominem much?)
2. " pixelcount is like sound system watt's just like internet connection speed!! " - whereas in reality , hahaha, you'd cry if you knew how useless it is in s3d , lets just say that, they perfectly depicted with hdmi 1.4, how useless it is.
..... if by finishing arguing, you mean you've contradicted your own statement in a single post, then yes.... i guess you would be finished arguing, wouldn't you?
[quote name='Tritosine']You can compensate for brightness loss with pj's with a high gain reflective screen, yeah, thats a silverscreen, works with shutters just fine, and light loss is compensated entirely. [b]Black frame insertion is no problem to your eyes[/b], luma is![/quote]
[quote name='Tritosine']" NO IT CAN't be THAT BAD!" yes it is. Its beyond me , [b]how one can pretend these shutters arent eating away light the way they do.[/b] Get real...[/quote]
You start off saying that you need to have a reflective screen in order to compensate for the light loss due to shutters... that "black-frame insertion is no problem to your eyes".... then say that you can't pretend the shutters aren't eating light? So.... you're agreeing to disagree or what? You're saying it's perfectly fine to pay out the yang for a projector AND a silverscreen to compensate for the shutters (which last time i checked you still need a relatively dark room to get stunning visual quality on).... when as far as i'm aware, any (or most) 3D-supporting LCD's are automatically cranked up to their maximum brightness to compensate for the lighting? I just ordered the new Asus VG236H 3D display.... which IIRC has the same brightness as my current Gateway FHD2400 (400 cd/m2). Right now i have the brightness set to 15% (or what i can assume is 15%, since it goes from 0-100)... and while i COULD turn it up a bit higher.... this is comfortable. think the highest i've ever had it is 50. 100 is just too bright.
..... if by finishing arguing, you mean you've contradicted your own statement in a single post, then yes.... i guess you would be finished arguing, wouldn't you?
Tritosine said:You can compensate for brightness loss with pj's with a high gain reflective screen, yeah, thats a silverscreen, works with shutters just fine, and light loss is compensated entirely. Black frame insertion is no problem to your eyes, luma is!
Tritosine said:" NO IT CAN't be THAT BAD!" yes it is. Its beyond me , how one can pretend these shutters arent eating away light the way they do. Get real...
You start off saying that you need to have a reflective screen in order to compensate for the light loss due to shutters... that "black-frame insertion is no problem to your eyes".... then say that you can't pretend the shutters aren't eating light? So.... you're agreeing to disagree or what? You're saying it's perfectly fine to pay out the yang for a projector AND a silverscreen to compensate for the shutters (which last time i checked you still need a relatively dark room to get stunning visual quality on).... when as far as i'm aware, any (or most) 3D-supporting LCD's are automatically cranked up to their maximum brightness to compensate for the lighting? I just ordered the new Asus VG236H 3D display.... which IIRC has the same brightness as my current Gateway FHD2400 (400 cd/m2). Right now i have the brightness set to 15% (or what i can assume is 15%, since it goes from 0-100)... and while i COULD turn it up a bit higher.... this is comfortable. think the highest i've ever had it is 50. 100 is just too bright.
On DLP projectors you also have the 25/75 ratio because the light out of the DLP projector is not polarised. Half of the light entering the glasses will be extinguished by the entry polarizer of the LCD shutter glasses.
On DLP projectors you also have the 25/75 ratio because the light out of the DLP projector is not polarised. Half of the light entering the glasses will be extinguished by the entry polarizer of the LCD shutter glasses.
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[quote name='BlackSharkfr' post='1096102' date='Jul 30 2010, 09:40 AM']On DLP projectors you also have the 25/75 ratio because the light out of the DLP projector is not polarised. Half of the light entering the glasses will be extinguished by the entry polarizer of the LCD shutter glasses.[/quote]
-25/75 is the duty cycle! This is the so called 240hz ( +1 black frame insertion , over black frame insertion ) !!! DLP is different its 50 / 50 duty cycle and the difference is night & day !!!
I know you wanted to provoke me, you succeeded. But thats all , I m back playing Borderlands /teehee.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':teehee:' />
[quote name='BlackSharkfr' post='1096102' date='Jul 30 2010, 09:40 AM']On DLP projectors you also have the 25/75 ratio because the light out of the DLP projector is not polarised. Half of the light entering the glasses will be extinguished by the entry polarizer of the LCD shutter glasses.
-25/75 is the duty cycle! This is the so called 240hz ( +1 black frame insertion , over black frame insertion ) !!! DLP is different its 50 / 50 duty cycle and the difference is night & day !!!
I know you wanted to provoke me, you succeeded. But thats all , I m back playing Borderlands /teehee.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':teehee:' />
seems to me like the guy in the vidoe is on panasonic's payroll :)
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[quote name='Ferry' post='1096466' date='Jul 30 2010, 02:52 PM']Did the 'thepro78' get his answer yet ?...lol /ike.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':ike:' />[/quote]
Yes I did. I'm goign o stick with the monitor that has HDTV tunner and keep playing xbox 360 for now.. lol
[quote name='thepro78' post='1096480' date='Jul 30 2010, 03:15 PM']Yes I did. I'm goign o stick with the monitor that has HDTV tuner and keep playing xbox 360 for now.. lol[/quote]
just kidding guys.. it doesn;t really matter if my monitor has TV tuner because I use Digital Cable. But I still want a bigger #D monitor that 23" . And I have to get it by this week cuase i already sold mine and delivering it on sunday. Don;t want to leave the wife without youtube more than 2 dayslol
[quote name='thepro78' post='1096480' date='Jul 30 2010, 03:15 PM']Yes I did. I'm goign o stick with the monitor that has HDTV tuner and keep playing xbox 360 for now.. lol
just kidding guys.. it doesn;t really matter if my monitor has TV tuner because I use Digital Cable. But I still want a bigger #D monitor that 23" . And I have to get it by this week cuase i already sold mine and delivering it on sunday. Don;t want to leave the wife without youtube more than 2 dayslol
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80 % more darkness ?..more like 10/20% at most ,and btw don´t you need a total dark room for a projector to see all the detail ?
But who cares what everybody (me included) is thinking..? lcd´s are good and projectors are good,they both have they good and bad things...it just depends on what you want ,and what kind of space you have,and money is a big part too.
I like to sit on a chair behind my desk ,I want to play games,photoshop,play music ,and many other things just behind my desktop,..so I bought a lcd screen that works good with both 2d and 3d setup.
Well on the other hand ,if someone likes to sit on a couch with an xbox controller,has a big room,maybe then a projector comes in mind.
But you don´t need to scare of newcomers ..saying lcd screen don´t work,and they need to buy projectors !?
Maybe better give some good advice,..and I don´t like to argue..because it´s hard for me to type in English..but this forum is beginning to look more like a fanboys club at youtube.
Talk aboud Fanboys...lol :)
80 % more darkness ?..more like 10/20% at most ,and btw don´t you need a total dark room for a projector to see all the detail ?
But who cares what everybody (me included) is thinking..? lcd´s are good and projectors are good,they both have they good and bad things...it just depends on what you want ,and what kind of space you have,and money is a big part too.
I like to sit on a chair behind my desk ,I want to play games,photoshop,play music ,and many other things just behind my desktop,..so I bought a lcd screen that works good with both 2d and 3d setup.
Well on the other hand ,if someone likes to sit on a couch with an xbox controller,has a big room,maybe then a projector comes in mind.
But you don´t need to scare of newcomers ..saying lcd screen don´t work,and they need to buy projectors !?
Maybe better give some good advice,..and I don´t like to argue..because it´s hard for me to type in English..but this forum is beginning to look more like a fanboys club at youtube.
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With LCD monitors , where the light is polarized to begin with, the transmittance is higher, but the shuttering takes away more , cause the duty cycle is different. So, overall, they are quite close ;)
And BTW, the low luma eye strain stuff, I took that part from somewhere. Who wrote it, came up with the idea and developed infrared LC shutterglasses in 80's.
Fanboy huh ? : )))
[quote]I’m of the opinion that there is really no excuse for stereoscopic images being projected any less bright than 2-D images. I don’t think something special is going on that makes it okay to have low light levels for 3-D (...)[/quote]
[url="http://lennylipton.wordpress.com/2009/11/09/the-silver-screen-part-2/"]Source[/url]
With LCD monitors , where the light is polarized to begin with, the transmittance is higher, but the shuttering takes away more , cause the duty cycle is different. So, overall, they are quite close ;)
And BTW, the low luma eye strain stuff, I took that part from somewhere. Who wrote it, came up with the idea and developed infrared LC shutterglasses in 80's.
Fanboy huh ? : )))
Source
we dont have time or resources to use a projector, we like the convenience and resolution of a simple monitor on the desk
as for the glasses, for the 2232rz, they are on for 4ms every 16ms, so thats 25% of original brightness, however the monitors go ultra bright when 3d is on anyway, so it's dark, but not that dark.
the flicker is unpercievable once you get used to it, i cant see it anymore (i did see it a lot when i first started using 3d vision)
the only problems remaining now is that the lenses opacity fades from the center onto the edges, so the glasses actually introduce all the light/dark ghosting there is, which is why im waiting to see how xpand 103s fare
and of course, the monitors refresh from bottom to top, so there's increased ghosting on the top, but that doesn't bother me anymore, the glasses ghosting bothers me much more
we dont have time or resources to use a projector, we like the convenience and resolution of a simple monitor on the desk
as for the glasses, for the 2232rz, they are on for 4ms every 16ms, so thats 25% of original brightness, however the monitors go ultra bright when 3d is on anyway, so it's dark, but not that dark.
the flicker is unpercievable once you get used to it, i cant see it anymore (i did see it a lot when i first started using 3d vision)
the only problems remaining now is that the lenses opacity fades from the center onto the edges, so the glasses actually introduce all the light/dark ghosting there is, which is why im waiting to see how xpand 103s fare
and of course, the monitors refresh from bottom to top, so there's increased ghosting on the top, but that doesn't bother me anymore, the glasses ghosting bothers me much more
So....,then you have the same darkening with projector screen as with lcd screens..not ?
So....,then you have the same darkening with projector screen as with lcd screens..not ?
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he might be using a dual pj setup
DLP projectors, same as DLP tvs, use shutters, but at a 50/50 ratio, at the loss of half the resolution
so there's not that much light loss compared to the 25/75 ratio of LCD shuttering
he might be using a dual pj setup
DLP projectors, same as DLP tvs, use shutters, but at a 50/50 ratio, at the loss of half the resolution
so there's not that much light loss compared to the 25/75 ratio of LCD shuttering
As for Tritosine's seemingly meaningless and mis-informed rant.... i've used shutter glasses.... and they don't cut down THAT MUCH on the brighness of the display. room brightness, maybe.... since last time i checked, your walls aren't a source of light.... but i've seen movies in 3D on HDTV's with shutter glasses, and it's not all that much of a brightness-killer. As for:
[quote name='Tritosine']"Sacrificing resolution in 3d" - what a joke. In fact I want to coin a term for this kind of pixel obsession, just like I did with "mickey mouse 3d" . Anyone wants to help?[/quote]
that.... Why are you trying to make a skewed point by putting words into someone's mouth? He never said "sacrificing resolution in 3D". Hell... he didn't even mention 3D in that post. I'm pretty sure what he was getting at is the idea that unless you're really willing to spend out the yang.... you're not going to be getting a 1080p projector, let alone one that supports 3D of any kind.
As for Tritosine's seemingly meaningless and mis-informed rant.... i've used shutter glasses.... and they don't cut down THAT MUCH on the brighness of the display. room brightness, maybe.... since last time i checked, your walls aren't a source of light.... but i've seen movies in 3D on HDTV's with shutter glasses, and it's not all that much of a brightness-killer. As for:
that.... Why are you trying to make a skewed point by putting words into someone's mouth? He never said "sacrificing resolution in 3D". Hell... he didn't even mention 3D in that post. I'm pretty sure what he was getting at is the idea that unless you're really willing to spend out the yang.... you're not going to be getting a 1080p projector, let alone one that supports 3D of any kind.
-I prefer native 720p, never saw checkerboard, those TV's arent sold in europe. You can compensate for brightness loss with pj's with a high gain reflective screen, yeah, thats a silverscreen, works with shutters just fine, and light loss is compensated entirely. Black frame insertion is no problem to your eyes, luma is!
As for the rest of the stuff, LOL , I have better things to do with my time, than beating a dead horse. I can't argue with things like:
1. " NO IT CAN't be THAT BAD!" yes it is. Its beyond me , how one can pretend these shutters arent eating away light the way they do. Get real... ( sure you don't have some funny things to do with marketing departments here &there? I am misinformed? Ad hominem much?)
2. " pixelcount is like sound system watt's just like internet connection speed!! " - whereas in reality , hahaha, you'd cry if you knew how useless it is in s3d , lets just say that, they perfectly depicted with hdmi 1.4, how useless it is.
Im finished arguing.
-I prefer native 720p, never saw checkerboard, those TV's arent sold in europe. You can compensate for brightness loss with pj's with a high gain reflective screen, yeah, thats a silverscreen, works with shutters just fine, and light loss is compensated entirely. Black frame insertion is no problem to your eyes, luma is!
As for the rest of the stuff, LOL , I have better things to do with my time, than beating a dead horse. I can't argue with things like:
1. " NO IT CAN't be THAT BAD!" yes it is. Its beyond me , how one can pretend these shutters arent eating away light the way they do. Get real... ( sure you don't have some funny things to do with marketing departments here &there? I am misinformed? Ad hominem much?)
2. " pixelcount is like sound system watt's just like internet connection speed!! " - whereas in reality , hahaha, you'd cry if you knew how useless it is in s3d , lets just say that, they perfectly depicted with hdmi 1.4, how useless it is.
Im finished arguing.
[quote name='Tritosine']You can compensate for brightness loss with pj's with a high gain reflective screen, yeah, thats a silverscreen, works with shutters just fine, and light loss is compensated entirely. [b]Black frame insertion is no problem to your eyes[/b], luma is![/quote]
[quote name='Tritosine']" NO IT CAN't be THAT BAD!" yes it is. Its beyond me , [b]how one can pretend these shutters arent eating away light the way they do.[/b] Get real...[/quote]
You start off saying that you need to have a reflective screen in order to compensate for the light loss due to shutters... that "black-frame insertion is no problem to your eyes".... then say that you can't pretend the shutters aren't eating light? So.... you're agreeing to disagree or what? You're saying it's perfectly fine to pay out the yang for a projector AND a silverscreen to compensate for the shutters (which last time i checked you still need a relatively dark room to get stunning visual quality on).... when as far as i'm aware, any (or most) 3D-supporting LCD's are automatically cranked up to their maximum brightness to compensate for the lighting? I just ordered the new Asus VG236H 3D display.... which IIRC has the same brightness as my current Gateway FHD2400 (400 cd/m2). Right now i have the brightness set to 15% (or what i can assume is 15%, since it goes from 0-100)... and while i COULD turn it up a bit higher.... this is comfortable. think the highest i've ever had it is 50. 100 is just too bright.
You start off saying that you need to have a reflective screen in order to compensate for the light loss due to shutters... that "black-frame insertion is no problem to your eyes".... then say that you can't pretend the shutters aren't eating light? So.... you're agreeing to disagree or what? You're saying it's perfectly fine to pay out the yang for a projector AND a silverscreen to compensate for the shutters (which last time i checked you still need a relatively dark room to get stunning visual quality on).... when as far as i'm aware, any (or most) 3D-supporting LCD's are automatically cranked up to their maximum brightness to compensate for the lighting? I just ordered the new Asus VG236H 3D display.... which IIRC has the same brightness as my current Gateway FHD2400 (400 cd/m2). Right now i have the brightness set to 15% (or what i can assume is 15%, since it goes from 0-100)... and while i COULD turn it up a bit higher.... this is comfortable. think the highest i've ever had it is 50. 100 is just too bright.
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-25/75 is the duty cycle! This is the so called 240hz ( +1 black frame insertion , over black frame insertion ) !!! DLP is different its 50 / 50 duty cycle and the difference is night & day !!!
I know you wanted to provoke me, you succeeded. But thats all , I m back playing Borderlands
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-please watch.
-25/75 is the duty cycle! This is the so called 240hz ( +1 black frame insertion , over black frame insertion ) !!! DLP is different its 50 / 50 duty cycle and the difference is night & day !!!
I know you wanted to provoke me, you succeeded. But thats all , I m back playing Borderlands
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-please watch.
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Intel Core i5-3470 3.20GHz
Asus P8Z77-V Intel Z77 using onboard sound
Corsair Vengeance Blue 16GB 1600MHz 2x4GB
ASUS GeForce GTX 660TI Direct CU II 2048MB
Gigabyte GeForce GTX 660TI OC Windforce 2X 2048MB
SLI
Samsung 128GB 840 Pro SSD
Western Digital 1TB
750W psu
3 x Benq XL2411T 144HZ 3D Vision Monitors
Intel I7 3820 3.8 Ghz,MSI MS7760 Motherboard, 6GB )2x MSI GTX670 (SLI),OCZ Vertex 230Gb SSD,OCZ Agility 120Gb SSD, Asus 3D VG278HR ,Optoma HD67 3D DLP Beamer with 95inch 2.5 gain screen.
Yes I did. I'm goign o stick with the monitor that has HDTV tunner and keep playing xbox 360 for now.. lol
Yes I did. I'm goign o stick with the monitor that has HDTV tunner and keep playing xbox 360 for now.. lol
just kidding guys.. it doesn;t really matter if my monitor has TV tuner because I use Digital Cable. But I still want a bigger #D monitor that 23" . And I have to get it by this week cuase i already sold mine and delivering it on sunday. Don;t want to leave the wife without youtube more than 2 dayslol
just kidding guys.. it doesn;t really matter if my monitor has TV tuner because I use Digital Cable. But I still want a bigger #D monitor that 23" . And I have to get it by this week cuase i already sold mine and delivering it on sunday. Don;t want to leave the wife without youtube more than 2 dayslol