Couple basic questions if anyone knows. Im new to the world of projectors and would like to replace my 46" 3DTV, which i use as my big screen computer monitor from 1 meter away, with a decent projector viewed from 1.5 meters away at the most.
1. Is the SBS or 720p image a scaled one, or is it pure 720 or 960x1080?
2. Do projectors have pixelation or is it different? Would sitting 1.5 meters away from an 80" sized screen look terrible?
3. Is the input lag in 3D ok on the W1070?
4. Anyone know if the brightness is as high an Nvidia lightboost monitor on the w1070?
5. Any projector screens to stay away from or make sure to get?
Couple basic questions if anyone knows. Im new to the world of projectors and would like to replace my 46" 3DTV, which i use as my big screen computer monitor from 1 meter away, with a decent projector viewed from 1.5 meters away at the most.
1. Is the SBS or 720p image a scaled one, or is it pure 720 or 960x1080?
2. Do projectors have pixelation or is it different? Would sitting 1.5 meters away from an 80" sized screen look terrible?
3. Is the input lag in 3D ok on the W1070?
4. Anyone know if the brightness is as high an Nvidia lightboost monitor on the w1070?
5. Any projector screens to stay away from or make sure to get?
BenQ W1080ST is not presently on the supported projectors list, so you cannot use 3D Vision glasses with it. (without hacks or tricks)
[url]http://www.nvidia.com/object/3d-vision-system-requirements.html[/url]
Seems to be supported as a 3D TV though, at:
[url]http://www.nvidia.com/object/3dtv-play-system-requirements.html[/url]
So you can probably use DLP Link glasses. Correct me if you are thinking of something else.
As 3D TV, you will only get a 1080 image at 24 fps. I think this would be full resolution, but lowered frame rate. You could alternatively get a 720p image at 60Hz. Those are the formats supported by HDMI 1.4.
I can only really speak to Q2 above. For a 1080 projected 80" diagonal, sitting at 1.5m, I think you would find it acceptable. I use a 720 projected 104" diagonal, sitting 2m away.
There is no pixelation when in 3D mode. In normal mode, pixelation is moderately noticeable because of the 720 screen size. With 3D Vision on this screen, I get two full screens worth every 60 fps, and that extra data smooths it out for 3D viewing.
The screen door effect is not noticeable at 2m, and I doubt it will be a problem for 1080 at 1.5m.
So you can probably use DLP Link glasses. Correct me if you are thinking of something else.
As 3D TV, you will only get a 1080 image at 24 fps. I think this would be full resolution, but lowered frame rate. You could alternatively get a 720p image at 60Hz. Those are the formats supported by HDMI 1.4.
I can only really speak to Q2 above. For a 1080 projected 80" diagonal, sitting at 1.5m, I think you would find it acceptable. I use a 720 projected 104" diagonal, sitting 2m away.
There is no pixelation when in 3D mode. In normal mode, pixelation is moderately noticeable because of the 720 screen size. With 3D Vision on this screen, I get two full screens worth every 60 fps, and that extra data smooths it out for 3D viewing.
The screen door effect is not noticeable at 2m, and I doubt it will be a problem for 1080 at 1.5m.
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1. 3d vision is frame packed only as far as projectors are concerned. So it is 1280x720p
2. Pixels are much more close together "packed" then lcds so you can sit much closer then a lcd.(As far as dlp projectors).
3
4. Projector brightness depends, you want a screen that has a certain amount of gain especially if you want a very bright image. Using a very bright screen allows you even if its "too bright" to set projector to eco mode which gives more lamp life. Projector screens are basically multipliers.
5. http://www.avsforum.com/t/1300238/discussion-screens-for-3d-projection .I use Da-lite/High Power
The only projectors I recommend are the following
Long Throw 720P: Acer 5360, Optoma HD66 <---They are the same in pretty much all aspects
Short Throw 720p: GT750E <----Short throw so you do not want want a very bright screen. 1.0 gain is fine.
Long Throw 1080p@24 hz: Optoma HD33 <---1080P projectors are much less bright. So you will need a much higher gain screen.
Most users Go acer h5360. I have no idea what screen they go with but I always recommend high gain especially for 3D. If its too bright eco mode is an option which in long run saves you money. If you are only using display for 3D I recommend the Acer h5360 / optoma hd66. They will also spare the hassle of 3d tv play. The other projectors I mention are 3D tv play in which case you can not use 3d vision glasses and must use DLP. The 3d tv play ones support displays such as Blu ray 3d/ps3 3d. The 3d vision ones do not.
Two more required things. Is room dark enough for a projector?
Do you have room / clean distance from a high place to screen (if not see short throw)? See throw calculator http://www.projectorcentral.com/projection-calculator-pro.cfm
Further discussion of 3D projector screens and pros/cons
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1281269/optimum-screen-gain-for-3d-projector
@bo3b
Saw your pictures on 3dvision live, this will resolve your issues. https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/528113/3d-vision/defense-grid-3d-vision-instructions-/
1. 3d vision is frame packed only as far as projectors are concerned. So it is 1280x720p
2. Pixels are much more close together "packed" then lcds so you can sit much closer then a lcd.(As far as dlp projectors).
3
4. Projector brightness depends, you want a screen that has a certain amount of gain especially if you want a very bright image. Using a very bright screen allows you even if its "too bright" to set projector to eco mode which gives more lamp life. Projector screens are basically multipliers.
5. http://www.avsforum.com/t/1300238/discussion-screens-for-3d-projection .I use Da-lite/High Power
The only projectors I recommend are the following
Long Throw 720P: Acer 5360, Optoma HD66 <---They are the same in pretty much all aspects
Short Throw 720p: GT750E <----Short throw so you do not want want a very bright screen. 1.0 gain is fine.
Long Throw 1080p@24 hz: Optoma HD33 <---1080P projectors are much less bright. So you will need a much higher gain screen.
Most users Go acer h5360. I have no idea what screen they go with but I always recommend high gain especially for 3D. If its too bright eco mode is an option which in long run saves you money. If you are only using display for 3D I recommend the Acer h5360 / optoma hd66. They will also spare the hassle of 3d tv play. The other projectors I mention are 3D tv play in which case you can not use 3d vision glasses and must use DLP. The 3d tv play ones support displays such as Blu ray 3d/ps3 3d. The 3d vision ones do not.
I use my H5360 on a plain white painted wall. I set it up for an experiment more than a year ago, and it was so compelling that I have yet to get around to getting a screen or even a permanent mount for the projector.
The H5360 at 104" screen or so, is actually too bright at night, even in Eco mode. When I go into 3D mode, it's about right. This allows me to use it in an imperfectly draped room during the day as well, by turning off Eco mode.
I'm not sure we are talking about the same projector though. The dimensions you gave suggest the W1070, not the W1080ST.
A BenQ specific throw calculator in case it's helpful:
[url]http://www.benq.com/microsite/projector/throwratiocalculator/[/url]
Lastly, I would suggest that your best bet is to just try it. If you can get it from Amazon or a retailer with 30 day MBG, then you can see how it all fits in your environment. Especially for brightness, there is no substitute for being able to try it in place.
@eqzitara
Thanks! Never even occurred to me to try an alternate profile. I really like DG when it's toyified. I posted that as a possible bug to fix on hiddenpath forums since it seems pretty clear that they are really serious about bug-fixing their software. I added your suggestion to the report.
I use my H5360 on a plain white painted wall. I set it up for an experiment more than a year ago, and it was so compelling that I have yet to get around to getting a screen or even a permanent mount for the projector.
The H5360 at 104" screen or so, is actually too bright at night, even in Eco mode. When I go into 3D mode, it's about right. This allows me to use it in an imperfectly draped room during the day as well, by turning off Eco mode.
I'm not sure we are talking about the same projector though. The dimensions you gave suggest the W1070, not the W1080ST.
A BenQ specific throw calculator in case it's helpful:
Lastly, I would suggest that your best bet is to just try it. If you can get it from Amazon or a retailer with 30 day MBG, then you can see how it all fits in your environment. Especially for brightness, there is no substitute for being able to try it in place.
@eqzitara
Thanks! Never even occurred to me to try an alternate profile. I really like DG when it's toyified. I posted that as a possible bug to fix on hiddenpath forums since it seems pretty clear that they are really serious about bug-fixing their software. I added your suggestion to the report.
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Before purchasing a projector, I'd suggest you read through as many user reviews as possible. A good place is AVS Forums, here's a link for the W1070 http://www.avsforum.com/t/1435626/benq-w1070-dlp-full-hd-3d-ready-with-lens-shift-for-1000
Just checking the first page, it seems that the W1070 projects straight out of the lens and that the lens shift will only adjust it in an upwards direction. So this may cause a mounting problem for you.
Just checking the first page, it seems that the W1070 projects straight out of the lens and that the lens shift will only adjust it in an upwards direction. So this may cause a mounting problem for you.
I'm very happy with my Acer H5360BD. The "BD" means it's a HDMI 1.4 device, so I treat it as a 3D TV with 3DTV Play and I use DLP-link glasses. It's otherwise the same as the H5360 which is more commonly available. I have a 90" screen and I sit 2 meters from it.
My screen is 2.6 gain and I too would recommend a high gain screen. I used a 1.0 gain screen for the first few weeks of 3D gaming and debated for awhile whether a high gain screen would be worth it or not. I eventually chose to get one, and the difference was huge! It really brought the 3D image to life.
I'm very happy with my Acer H5360BD. The "BD" means it's a HDMI 1.4 device, so I treat it as a 3D TV with 3DTV Play and I use DLP-link glasses. It's otherwise the same as the H5360 which is more commonly available. I have a 90" screen and I sit 2 meters from it.
My screen is 2.6 gain and I too would recommend a high gain screen. I used a 1.0 gain screen for the first few weeks of 3D gaming and debated for awhile whether a high gain screen would be worth it or not. I eventually chose to get one, and the difference was huge! It really brought the 3D image to life.
Unfortunately, the Acer H5360BD is not available in most markets. You can buy one and have it mailed, but if there are any problems, you will not get localized warranty support.
Unfortunately, the Acer H5360BD is not available in most markets. You can buy one and have it mailed, but if there are any problems, you will not get localized warranty support.
Not to be confused with the Acer H5360 (non-BD) which is available pretty much everywhere I think. It's basically the same projector, except I think you'd need the full 3D Vision kit instead of 3DTV Play.
Not to be confused with the Acer H5360 (non-BD) which is available pretty much everywhere I think. It's basically the same projector, except I think you'd need the full 3D Vision kit instead of 3DTV Play.
I just looked up the Acer K750 because I hadn't heard of it yet, and it sounded awesome with a reported 100,000:1 contrast ratio! 1500 lumens isn't bad, good for 2D, but I'd prefer another 1000 for 3D. Then I got to the part of the review where they measured the contrast ratio to be 1000:1, far from what the manufacturer advertises. Dismal.
And then there's the price. You could buy five or six H5360s (they're cheap) for the price, or one H5360 and a 20 year supply of bulbs for it, for the price. I hope LED can beat bulbs on both brightness and price in the future, but the K750 looks far from it.
Here's what I read: [url]http://www.avforums.com/reviews/Acer-K750-LED-Laser-Hybrid-DLP-Projector-Review_369/Review.html[/url]
EDIT: Actually the measured brightness isn't bad, around 800 lumens. Better than the H5360 in 3D mode, which is somewhere around 650 lumens. But then, looking at the screenshots of the menus and the review in it's totality, the K750 isn't even 3D capable.
I just looked up the Acer K750 because I hadn't heard of it yet, and it sounded awesome with a reported 100,000:1 contrast ratio! 1500 lumens isn't bad, good for 2D, but I'd prefer another 1000 for 3D. Then I got to the part of the review where they measured the contrast ratio to be 1000:1, far from what the manufacturer advertises. Dismal.
And then there's the price. You could buy five or six H5360s (they're cheap) for the price, or one H5360 and a 20 year supply of bulbs for it, for the price. I hope LED can beat bulbs on both brightness and price in the future, but the K750 looks far from it.
EDIT: Actually the measured brightness isn't bad, around 800 lumens. Better than the H5360 in 3D mode, which is somewhere around 650 lumens. But then, looking at the screenshots of the menus and the review in it's totality, the K750 isn't even 3D capable.
It's been standard practise for years to quote contrast ratios with dynamic control and other options enabled. It's the same for monitors and tv's that use local backlight dimming. Quoted lumens is more accurate but will always be lower after correct calibration.
For 3d best to use a screen with higher gain.
Don't worry too much about bulb costs either, they've come down and last thousands of hours anyway.
Most dip projectors have exactly the same contrast and picture quality because the ones at this price range all use the same revision of dip dark chip.
Also try to find out colour wheel speed if going dlp as faster is better.
It's been standard practise for years to quote contrast ratios with dynamic control and other options enabled. It's the same for monitors and tv's that use local backlight dimming. Quoted lumens is more accurate but will always be lower after correct calibration.
For 3d best to use a screen with higher gain.
Don't worry too much about bulb costs either, they've come down and last thousands of hours anyway.
Most dip projectors have exactly the same contrast and picture quality because the ones at this price range all use the same revision of dip dark chip.
Also try to find out colour wheel speed if going dlp as faster is better.
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Hmm, the K750 was supposedly going to release as a 3D Ready 1080p hybrid LED-laser.
It was supposed to be a step up from the K520 hybrid LED-laser rated at 2000 lumens and 3D Ready at 1024x768.
Since the LED projectors came out. it's been said that the lumen output doesn't necessarily equate at a 1 to 1 ratio with bulb projectors.
In the threads I've read, actual users said that their LED projectors were comparitive or even brighter than their higher rated lanp projectors.
Also lamps tend to dim quite a bit over use.
Here's an interesting article that I just saw linked over at the AVS forum in the LG PA70G thread (700 lumen LED PJ)
http://www.runco.com/downloads/Other/Runco%20Out%20of%20the%20Box%20Brightness.pdf
The main problem with all of the "Pico" LED projectors is that they use a DMD 0.45 chipset from Texas Instruments, is that it uses a diamond shape pixel structure that is not very good for small text.
Another problem is the horrible lenses that they use, it seems there was no quality control applied in the manufacturing to installation chain. So it's hit or miss whether you get one with a good uniform focus.
These problems aside, I love my 500 lumen LED projector(PLED-W500) and play on it at 120 inches projected on a flat white wall. Though in general, I would not recommend it for 3D Gaming, there are lots of better projectors. Great for 2D gaming! I choose mine for it's portability, so I could easily take it with me and use it away from home.
Since the LED projectors came out. it's been said that the lumen output doesn't necessarily equate at a 1 to 1 ratio with bulb projectors.
In the threads I've read, actual users said that their LED projectors were comparitive or even brighter than their higher rated lanp projectors.
Also lamps tend to dim quite a bit over use.
Here's an interesting article that I just saw linked over at the AVS forum in the LG PA70G thread (700 lumen LED PJ)
http://www.runco.com/downloads/Other/Runco%20Out%20of%20the%20Box%20Brightness.pdf
The main problem with all of the "Pico" LED projectors is that they use a DMD 0.45 chipset from Texas Instruments, is that it uses a diamond shape pixel structure that is not very good for small text.
Another problem is the horrible lenses that they use, it seems there was no quality control applied in the manufacturing to installation chain. So it's hit or miss whether you get one with a good uniform focus.
These problems aside, I love my 500 lumen LED projector(PLED-W500) and play on it at 120 inches projected on a flat white wall. Though in general, I would not recommend it for 3D Gaming, there are lots of better projectors. Great for 2D gaming! I choose mine for it's portability, so I could easily take it with me and use it away from home.
Thanks for the info guys. My internet was out a little bit the last few days, so i've just now been able to respond. I edited my post to say 1070 instead of 1080, but forgot to bring attention to it. Sorry for the confusion.
Thanks for the info guys. My internet was out a little bit the last few days, so i've just now been able to respond. I edited my post to say 1070 instead of 1080, but forgot to bring attention to it. Sorry for the confusion.
I forgot that Mocca had a BenQ W1070, it had a problem where half of the screen was brighter than the other half. He said BenQ told him that they could not fix it, they all had the problem.
http://www.mtbs3d.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=122&t=15527
I forgot that Mocca had a BenQ W1070, it had a problem where half of the screen was brighter than the other half. He said BenQ told him that they could not fix it, they all had the problem.
http://www.mtbs3d.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=122&t=15527
1. Is the SBS or 720p image a scaled one, or is it pure 720 or 960x1080?
2. Do projectors have pixelation or is it different? Would sitting 1.5 meters away from an 80" sized screen look terrible?
3. Is the input lag in 3D ok on the W1070?
4. Anyone know if the brightness is as high an Nvidia lightboost monitor on the w1070?
5. Any projector screens to stay away from or make sure to get?
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http://www.nvidia.com/object/3d-vision-system-requirements.html
Seems to be supported as a 3D TV though, at:
http://www.nvidia.com/object/3dtv-play-system-requirements.html
So you can probably use DLP Link glasses. Correct me if you are thinking of something else.
As 3D TV, you will only get a 1080 image at 24 fps. I think this would be full resolution, but lowered frame rate. You could alternatively get a 720p image at 60Hz. Those are the formats supported by HDMI 1.4.
I can only really speak to Q2 above. For a 1080 projected 80" diagonal, sitting at 1.5m, I think you would find it acceptable. I use a 720 projected 104" diagonal, sitting 2m away.
There is no pixelation when in 3D mode. In normal mode, pixelation is moderately noticeable because of the 720 screen size. With 3D Vision on this screen, I get two full screens worth every 60 fps, and that extra data smooths it out for 3D viewing.
The screen door effect is not noticeable at 2m, and I doubt it will be a problem for 1080 at 1.5m.
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2. Pixels are much more close together "packed" then lcds so you can sit much closer then a lcd.(As far as dlp projectors).
3
4. Projector brightness depends, you want a screen that has a certain amount of gain especially if you want a very bright image. Using a very bright screen allows you even if its "too bright" to set projector to eco mode which gives more lamp life. Projector screens are basically multipliers.
5. http://www.avsforum.com/t/1300238/discussion-screens-for-3d-projection .I use Da-lite/High Power
The only projectors I recommend are the following
Long Throw 720P: Acer 5360, Optoma HD66 <---They are the same in pretty much all aspects
Short Throw 720p: GT750E <----Short throw so you do not want want a very bright screen. 1.0 gain is fine.
Long Throw 1080p@24 hz: Optoma HD33 <---1080P projectors are much less bright. So you will need a much higher gain screen.
Most users Go acer h5360. I have no idea what screen they go with but I always recommend high gain especially for 3D. If its too bright eco mode is an option which in long run saves you money. If you are only using display for 3D I recommend the Acer h5360 / optoma hd66. They will also spare the hassle of 3d tv play. The other projectors I mention are 3D tv play in which case you can not use 3d vision glasses and must use DLP. The 3d tv play ones support displays such as Blu ray 3d/ps3 3d. The 3d vision ones do not.
Two more required things. Is room dark enough for a projector?
Do you have room / clean distance from a high place to screen (if not see short throw)? See throw calculator http://www.projectorcentral.com/projection-calculator-pro.cfm
Further discussion of 3D projector screens and pros/cons
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1281269/optimum-screen-gain-for-3d-projector
@bo3b
Saw your pictures on 3dvision live, this will resolve your issues. https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/528113/3d-vision/defense-grid-3d-vision-instructions-/
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The H5360 at 104" screen or so, is actually too bright at night, even in Eco mode. When I go into 3D mode, it's about right. This allows me to use it in an imperfectly draped room during the day as well, by turning off Eco mode.
I'm not sure we are talking about the same projector though. The dimensions you gave suggest the W1070, not the W1080ST.
A BenQ specific throw calculator in case it's helpful:
http://www.benq.com/microsite/projector/throwratiocalculator/
Lastly, I would suggest that your best bet is to just try it. If you can get it from Amazon or a retailer with 30 day MBG, then you can see how it all fits in your environment. Especially for brightness, there is no substitute for being able to try it in place.
@eqzitara
Thanks! Never even occurred to me to try an alternate profile. I really like DG when it's toyified. I posted that as a possible bug to fix on hiddenpath forums since it seems pretty clear that they are really serious about bug-fixing their software. I added your suggestion to the report.
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Just checking the first page, it seems that the W1070 projects straight out of the lens and that the lens shift will only adjust it in an upwards direction. So this may cause a mounting problem for you.
My screen is 2.6 gain and I too would recommend a high gain screen. I used a 1.0 gain screen for the first few weeks of 3D gaming and debated for awhile whether a high gain screen would be worth it or not. I eventually chose to get one, and the difference was huge! It really brought the 3D image to life.
And then there's the price. You could buy five or six H5360s (they're cheap) for the price, or one H5360 and a 20 year supply of bulbs for it, for the price. I hope LED can beat bulbs on both brightness and price in the future, but the K750 looks far from it.
Here's what I read: http://www.avforums.com/reviews/Acer-K750-LED-Laser-Hybrid-DLP-Projector-Review_369/Review.html
EDIT: Actually the measured brightness isn't bad, around 800 lumens. Better than the H5360 in 3D mode, which is somewhere around 650 lumens. But then, looking at the screenshots of the menus and the review in it's totality, the K750 isn't even 3D capable.
For 3d best to use a screen with higher gain.
Don't worry too much about bulb costs either, they've come down and last thousands of hours anyway.
Most dip projectors have exactly the same contrast and picture quality because the ones at this price range all use the same revision of dip dark chip.
Also try to find out colour wheel speed if going dlp as faster is better.
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It was supposed to be a step up from the K520 hybrid LED-laser rated at 2000 lumens and 3D Ready at 1024x768.
In the threads I've read, actual users said that their LED projectors were comparitive or even brighter than their higher rated lanp projectors.
Also lamps tend to dim quite a bit over use.
Here's an interesting article that I just saw linked over at the AVS forum in the LG PA70G thread (700 lumen LED PJ)
http://www.runco.com/downloads/Other/Runco%20Out%20of%20the%20Box%20Brightness.pdf
The main problem with all of the "Pico" LED projectors is that they use a DMD 0.45 chipset from Texas Instruments, is that it uses a diamond shape pixel structure that is not very good for small text.
Another problem is the horrible lenses that they use, it seems there was no quality control applied in the manufacturing to installation chain. So it's hit or miss whether you get one with a good uniform focus.
These problems aside, I love my 500 lumen LED projector(PLED-W500) and play on it at 120 inches projected on a flat white wall. Though in general, I would not recommend it for 3D Gaming, there are lots of better projectors. Great for 2D gaming! I choose mine for it's portability, so I could easily take it with me and use it away from home.
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http://www.mtbs3d.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=122&t=15527