Deus Ex: Mankind Divided - Nixxes port
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[quote="terintamel"] I am not sure what you are getting at. Not only is the HUD messed up the Aspect ratio is stretched poorly just by turning on Exclusive Fullscreen (3d is off). I am gaming on a 16:10 monitor running its native res of 1680x1050. Example 1680x1050 Exclusive fullscreen Off 3d Off [url]http://imgur.com/a/oikz7[/url] 1680x1050 Exclusive fullscreen On 3d Off [url]http://imgur.com/a/VkWtc[/url] When you compare the photos see the HUD is shrunk towards the center while the image is stretched horizontally. It is really obvious on the scope. [/quote] That is definitely wrong. I am not sure what is going on there. That definitely looks like a bug and not just a Hud placement correction. I think best thing is to report it to Nixxes as a bug;)
terintamel said:
I am not sure what you are getting at. Not only is the HUD messed up the Aspect ratio is stretched poorly just by turning on Exclusive Fullscreen (3d is off).

I am gaming on a 16:10 monitor running its native res of 1680x1050.

Example
1680x1050
Exclusive fullscreen Off
3d Off
http://imgur.com/a/oikz7

1680x1050
Exclusive fullscreen On
3d Off
http://imgur.com/a/VkWtc


When you compare the photos see the HUD is shrunk towards the center while the image is stretched horizontally. It is really obvious on the scope.



That is definitely wrong. I am not sure what is going on there. That definitely looks like a bug and not just a Hud placement correction.
I think best thing is to report it to Nixxes as a bug;)

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#76
Posted 08/24/2016 09:57 AM   
[quote="coffeeonteacup"] Out of curiosity what level of msaa are you using? Msaa usually is pretty expensive but in this game its unusually expensive. Just turn it off and use TAA instead, i can play the game at 60fps all maxed out except msaa, soft shadows and volumetric lights "on" insteand of "ultra" on a single gtx 980 at 1080p. [/quote] MSAA x2 as far as I remember. I'll make further investigation and testing when I'll get back home later, and report here.
coffeeonteacup said:

Out of curiosity what level of msaa are you using? Msaa usually is pretty expensive but in this game its unusually expensive. Just turn it off and use TAA instead, i can play the game at 60fps all maxed out except msaa, soft shadows and volumetric lights "on" insteand of "ultra" on a single gtx 980 at 1080p.



MSAA x2 as far as I remember. I'll make further investigation and testing when I'll get back home later, and report here.

#77
Posted 08/24/2016 10:09 AM   
I'm still in shock that the game actually supports 3D Vision natively, and I would rate it 3D Vision Ready at present. (maybe slight caveat of some reflected surfaces that don't seem quite right). Still, shocked I say. I paid the early purchase tax to support them giving us 3D. Regarding performance, there is a built-in benchmark in Extras. Use that instead of the usual random averages people talk about. All 4 cores are active at 95%. GPU is maxed. At 1080p on a GTX 970, minimum frame rate was 18, average was 35. Lowering that to 720p, minimum was 28, average was 41. Using default settings of High they suggest. (no msaa, contact shadows off) High 1080: 18, 35 High 720: 28, 41 Very High 720: 2, 30 Low 720: 37, 51 Low 1080: 25, 32 Driver 372.54, Low 720: 24, 45 Again, I'm pretty shocked that for Day1 it actually runs decently. Lately Day1 releases have been pathetic. It does have room for improvement though.
I'm still in shock that the game actually supports 3D Vision natively, and I would rate it 3D Vision Ready at present. (maybe slight caveat of some reflected surfaces that don't seem quite right). Still, shocked I say. I paid the early purchase tax to support them giving us 3D.


Regarding performance, there is a built-in benchmark in Extras. Use that instead of the usual random averages people talk about. All 4 cores are active at 95%. GPU is maxed.

At 1080p on a GTX 970, minimum frame rate was 18, average was 35. Lowering that to 720p, minimum was 28, average was 41. Using default settings of High they suggest. (no msaa, contact shadows off)
High 1080: 18, 35
High 720: 28, 41
Very High 720: 2, 30
Low 720: 37, 51
Low 1080: 25, 32

Driver 372.54, Low 720: 24, 45

Again, I'm pretty shocked that for Day1 it actually runs decently. Lately Day1 releases have been pathetic. It does have room for improvement though.

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#78
Posted 08/24/2016 11:26 AM   
A few snapshots from the benchmark, using the 3DVisionLive technique I've been [url=https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/766890/3d-vision/bo3bs-school-for-shaderhackers/post/4936194/#4936194]recommending[/url]: [img]http://api.photos.3dvisionlive.com/imagestore/57bd8b0ee7e564065c000445/nvidia./350.215/[/img] [img]http://api.photos.3dvisionlive.com/imagestore/57bd8af2e7e5642d100005f1/nvidia./350.215/[/img] [img]http://api.photos.3dvisionlive.com/imagestore/57bd8adae7e564f40f0005dd/nvidia./350.215/[/img]
A few snapshots from the benchmark, using the 3DVisionLive technique I've been recommending:

Image

Image

Image

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#79
Posted 08/24/2016 12:00 PM   
Yea its a good idea to use benchmark. So far, about 3 hours in, the benchmark seems to be much more taxing than real gameplay though. Ps. my fps report was in 2d because it was in response to Laast who had fps troubles in 2d.
Yea its a good idea to use benchmark. So far, about 3 hours in, the benchmark seems to be much more taxing than real gameplay though.

Ps. my fps report was in 2d because it was in response to Laast who had fps troubles in 2d.

#80
Posted 08/24/2016 12:04 PM   
[quote="helifax"][quote="terintamel"] I am not sure what you are getting at. Not only is the HUD messed up the Aspect ratio is stretched poorly just by turning on Exclusive Fullscreen (3d is off). I am gaming on a 16:10 monitor running its native res of 1680x1050. Example 1680x1050 Exclusive fullscreen Off 3d Off [url]http://imgur.com/a/oikz7[/url] 1680x1050 Exclusive fullscreen On 3d Off [url]http://imgur.com/a/VkWtc[/url] When you compare the photos see the HUD is shrunk towards the center while the image is stretched horizontally. It is really obvious on the scope. [/quote] That is definitely wrong. I am not sure what is going on there. That definitely looks like a bug and not just a Hud placement correction. I think best thing is to report it to Nixxes as a bug;)[/quote] Yep. Browsing the Steam forums I see that others are having rendering issues in exclusive fullscreen. Almost all of them from users not running a 16:9 resolution. I am using 16:10 and the others having issues are 21:9. On mine as you see the HUD is out of position and the game image is stretched. On the 21:9 users their HUD is similarly out of position but their image is squished instead of stretched. I have posted on the Steam DX:MD tech forum and sent an email to Eidos DX support. Hopefully they acknowledge the issue and correct it as it very much ruins the 3D presentation.
helifax said:
terintamel said:
I am not sure what you are getting at. Not only is the HUD messed up the Aspect ratio is stretched poorly just by turning on Exclusive Fullscreen (3d is off).

I am gaming on a 16:10 monitor running its native res of 1680x1050.

Example
1680x1050
Exclusive fullscreen Off
3d Off
http://imgur.com/a/oikz7

1680x1050
Exclusive fullscreen On
3d Off
http://imgur.com/a/VkWtc


When you compare the photos see the HUD is shrunk towards the center while the image is stretched horizontally. It is really obvious on the scope.



That is definitely wrong. I am not sure what is going on there. That definitely looks like a bug and not just a Hud placement correction.
I think best thing is to report it to Nixxes as a bug;)


Yep. Browsing the Steam forums I see that others are having rendering issues in exclusive fullscreen. Almost all of them from users not running a 16:9 resolution. I am using 16:10 and the others having issues are 21:9.

On mine as you see the HUD is out of position and the game image is stretched. On the 21:9 users their HUD is similarly out of position but their image is squished instead of stretched.

I have posted on the Steam DX:MD tech forum and sent an email to Eidos DX support. Hopefully they acknowledge the issue and correct it as it very much ruins the 3D presentation.

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#81
Posted 08/24/2016 12:24 PM   
[quote="bo3b"] At 1080p on a GTX 970, minimum frame rate was 18, average was 35. Lowering that to 720p, minimum was 28, average was 41. Using default settings of High they suggest. (no msaa, contact shadows off) High 1080: 18, 35 High 720: 28, 41 Very High 720: 2, 30 Low 720: 37, 51 Low 1080: 25, 32 Again, I'm pretty shocked that for Day1 it actually runs decently. Lately Day1 releases have been pathetic. It does have room for improvement though. [/quote] How can we call this other than bad optimization: [b]High[/b] 1080: 18, 35 vs [b]Low[/b] 1080: 25, 32 PS: wait, is your benchmark in 2D or 3D? If 3D, then OK it's decent, but it doesn't explain the tiny framerate difference between High and Low.
bo3b said:
At 1080p on a GTX 970, minimum frame rate was 18, average was 35. Lowering that to 720p, minimum was 28, average was 41. Using default settings of High they suggest. (no msaa, contact shadows off)
High 1080: 18, 35
High 720: 28, 41
Very High 720: 2, 30
Low 720: 37, 51
Low 1080: 25, 32

Again, I'm pretty shocked that for Day1 it actually runs decently. Lately Day1 releases have been pathetic. It does have room for improvement though.



How can we call this other than bad optimization:
High 1080: 18, 35
vs
Low 1080: 25, 32

PS: wait, is your benchmark in 2D or 3D? If 3D, then OK it's decent, but it doesn't explain the tiny framerate difference between High and Low.

#82
Posted 08/24/2016 12:31 PM   
So what the changes you need to do in "graphic settings" in order to play in glorious 3d?
So what the changes you need to do in "graphic settings" in order to play in glorious 3d?

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#83
Posted 08/24/2016 01:32 PM   
Turning off Screen Space Reflections and Ambient Occlusion helps, but it's not that bad with them on.
Turning off Screen Space Reflections and Ambient Occlusion helps, but it's not that bad with them on.

#84
Posted 08/24/2016 02:03 PM   
[quote="Laast"][quote="bo3b"] At 1080p on a GTX 970, minimum frame rate was 18, average was 35. Lowering that to 720p, minimum was 28, average was 41. Using default settings of High they suggest. (no msaa, contact shadows off) High 1080: 18, 35 High 720: 28, 41 Very High 720: 2, 30 Low 720: 37, 51 Low 1080: 25, 32 Again, I'm pretty shocked that for Day1 it actually runs decently. Lately Day1 releases have been pathetic. It does have room for improvement though. [/quote]How can we call this other than bad optimization: [b]High[/b] 1080: 18, 35 vs [b]Low[/b] 1080: 25, 32 PS: wait, is your benchmark in 2D or 3D? If 3D, then OK it's decent, but it doesn't explain the tiny framerate difference between High and Low.[/quote] Dudes! Can we please ONLY talk about 3D here? The 3D Vision forum. I don't care about 2D ever.
Laast said:
bo3b said:
At 1080p on a GTX 970, minimum frame rate was 18, average was 35. Lowering that to 720p, minimum was 28, average was 41. Using default settings of High they suggest. (no msaa, contact shadows off)
High 1080: 18, 35
High 720: 28, 41
Very High 720: 2, 30
Low 720: 37, 51
Low 1080: 25, 32

Again, I'm pretty shocked that for Day1 it actually runs decently. Lately Day1 releases have been pathetic. It does have room for improvement though.
How can we call this other than bad optimization:
High 1080: 18, 35
vs
Low 1080: 25, 32

PS: wait, is your benchmark in 2D or 3D? If 3D, then OK it's decent, but it doesn't explain the tiny framerate difference between High and Low.

Dudes! Can we please ONLY talk about 3D here? The 3D Vision forum. I don't care about 2D ever.

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#85
Posted 08/24/2016 03:04 PM   
Thanks to nixxes's true SBS mode, I can play all maxed with 30FPS stable in 4k SBS :) (instead 15 fps in 4k 3dvision...)
Thanks to nixxes's true SBS mode, I can play all maxed with 30FPS stable in 4k SBS :) (instead 15 fps in 4k 3dvision...)

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#86
Posted 08/24/2016 05:50 PM   
[quote="chtiblue"]Thanks to nixxes's true SBS mode, I can play all maxed with 30FPS stable in 4k SBS :) (instead 15 fps in 4k 3dvision...)[/quote] That is strange. I can run it in 3D Surround at 30FPS (5760x1080). Is not exactly 4K but closer than anything. This is ofc on 980TI SLI, but I see you have 3x980Ti? So, you should get 30FPS in 4K in 3D Vision easily...
chtiblue said:Thanks to nixxes's true SBS mode, I can play all maxed with 30FPS stable in 4k SBS :) (instead 15 fps in 4k 3dvision...)


That is strange. I can run it in 3D Surround at 30FPS (5760x1080). Is not exactly 4K but closer than anything.
This is ofc on 980TI SLI, but I see you have 3x980Ti? So, you should get 30FPS in 4K in 3D Vision easily...

1x Palit RTX 2080Ti Pro Gaming OC(watercooled and overclocked to hell)
3x 3D Vision Ready Asus VG278HE monitors (5760x1080).
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Asus Maximus XI Hero Mobo.
16 GB Team Group T-Force Dark Pro DDR4 @ 3600.
Lots of Disks:
- Raid 0 - 256GB Sandisk Extreme SSD.
- Raid 0 - WD Black - 2TB.
- SanDisk SSD PLUS 480 GB.
- Intel 760p 256GB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD.
Creative Sound Blaster Z.
Windows 10 x64 Pro.
etc


My website with my fixes and OpenGL to 3D Vision wrapper:
http://3dsurroundgaming.com

(If you like some of the stuff that I've done and want to donate something, you can do it with PayPal at tavyhome@gmail.com)

#87
Posted 08/24/2016 06:15 PM   
[quote="bo3b"]A few snapshots from the benchmark [/quote] You mind uploading pictures here in jps format? I couldnt find a way to download them from 3d vision live. Other pictures in this thread are taken from monitor and they are unwatchable on a projector. I tried and im crosseyed now!
bo3b said:A few snapshots from the benchmark


You mind uploading pictures here in jps format? I couldnt find a way to download them from 3d vision live. Other pictures in this thread are taken from monitor and they are unwatchable on a projector. I tried and im crosseyed now!

#88
Posted 08/24/2016 06:39 PM   
[quote="helifax"][quote="chtiblue"]Thanks to nixxes's true SBS mode, I can play all maxed with 30FPS stable in 4k SBS :) (instead 15 fps in 4k 3dvision...)[/quote] That is strange. I can run it in 3D Surround at 30FPS (5760x1080). Is not exactly 4K but closer than anything. This is ofc on 980TI SLI, but I see you have 3x980Ti? So, you should get 30FPS in 4K in 3D Vision easily...[/quote] Jeeez, no I just have one 980Ti ;) It's the name of my 980Ti model, I reckon now it's very confusing, I'll correct that ;)
helifax said:
chtiblue said:Thanks to nixxes's true SBS mode, I can play all maxed with 30FPS stable in 4k SBS :) (instead 15 fps in 4k 3dvision...)


That is strange. I can run it in 3D Surround at 30FPS (5760x1080). Is not exactly 4K but closer than anything.
This is ofc on 980TI SLI, but I see you have 3x980Ti? So, you should get 30FPS in 4K in 3D Vision easily...


Jeeez, no I just have one 980Ti ;)
It's the name of my 980Ti model, I reckon now it's very confusing, I'll correct that ;)

http://photos.3dvisionlive.com/chtiblue/album/530b52d4cb85770d6e000049/3Dvision with 55" LG OLED EG920 interlieved 3D (3840x2160) overide mode, GTX 2080 Ti XC Ultra EVGA, core i5 @4.3GHz, 16Gb@2130, windows 7&10 64bit, Dolby Atmos 5.1.4 Marantz 6010 AVR

#89
Posted 08/24/2016 06:50 PM   
[quote="chtiblue"][quote="helifax"][quote="chtiblue"]Thanks to nixxes's true SBS mode, I can play all maxed with 30FPS stable in 4k SBS :) (instead 15 fps in 4k 3dvision...)[/quote] That is strange. I can run it in 3D Surround at 30FPS (5760x1080). Is not exactly 4K but closer than anything. This is ofc on 980TI SLI, but I see you have 3x980Ti? So, you should get 30FPS in 4K in 3D Vision easily...[/quote] Jeeez, no I just have one 980Ti ;) It's the name of my 980Ti model, I reckon now it's very confusing, I'll correct that ;)[/quote] Ah;)) Fooled me, yes;)) Hehehe;)
chtiblue said:
helifax said:
chtiblue said:Thanks to nixxes's true SBS mode, I can play all maxed with 30FPS stable in 4k SBS :) (instead 15 fps in 4k 3dvision...)


That is strange. I can run it in 3D Surround at 30FPS (5760x1080). Is not exactly 4K but closer than anything.
This is ofc on 980TI SLI, but I see you have 3x980Ti? So, you should get 30FPS in 4K in 3D Vision easily...


Jeeez, no I just have one 980Ti ;)
It's the name of my 980Ti model, I reckon now it's very confusing, I'll correct that ;)


Ah;)) Fooled me, yes;)) Hehehe;)

1x Palit RTX 2080Ti Pro Gaming OC(watercooled and overclocked to hell)
3x 3D Vision Ready Asus VG278HE monitors (5760x1080).
Intel i9 9900K (overclocked to 5.3 and watercooled ofc).
Asus Maximus XI Hero Mobo.
16 GB Team Group T-Force Dark Pro DDR4 @ 3600.
Lots of Disks:
- Raid 0 - 256GB Sandisk Extreme SSD.
- Raid 0 - WD Black - 2TB.
- SanDisk SSD PLUS 480 GB.
- Intel 760p 256GB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD.
Creative Sound Blaster Z.
Windows 10 x64 Pro.
etc


My website with my fixes and OpenGL to 3D Vision wrapper:
http://3dsurroundgaming.com

(If you like some of the stuff that I've done and want to donate something, you can do it with PayPal at tavyhome@gmail.com)

#90
Posted 08/24/2016 06:51 PM   
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