The 3D performace benchmarks are kind of not so tru when talking 3D vision gaming ?
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I had GTX660ti 2waySLI and bought a Gtx980ti after watching reviews that put 970 2way sli into par with 980ti. I kind of assumed the same performance in 2D with SLI than in 3D but only after i visited my brother i sold the gx660ti 2way SLI set i discrovered that the benchmarks i watched left out to mention it´s a whole new ballgame in 3D. My brother games in 2D and the gpu utilization was rarely over 80 at both cards at the same time. Contrary to what i had been used to see, as i had almoust every game i got the sli working over 96% usage for both cards simultaneously. And im kind of bummed about the performance of the 980ti. As i only game in 3D. Yes it works better than my 660tiSLI but i would have had a rocket if i would have bought 2 970´s Or was my 660ti 2way SLI much better scraling than let´s say gtx970 ? In the same time i bought the 980ti i was thinking, this is just a phase. i still can´t avoid the SLI forever, eventually im gonna upgrade to SLI , so it would have been propably much better choise to do 970 2waySLI or 980´s. Well when i SLI , i get shit load of memory. Weather i need it or not. AT FullHD ..... hahahahahah
I had GTX660ti 2waySLI and bought a Gtx980ti after watching reviews that put 970 2way sli into par with 980ti.
I kind of assumed the same performance in 2D with SLI than in 3D but only after i visited my brother i sold
the gx660ti 2way SLI set i discrovered that the benchmarks i watched left out to mention it´s a whole new
ballgame in 3D. My brother games in 2D and the gpu utilization was rarely over 80 at both cards at the same time. Contrary to what i had been used to see, as i had almoust every game i got the sli working over 96% usage
for both cards simultaneously. And im kind of bummed about the performance of the 980ti.
As i only game in 3D. Yes it works better than my 660tiSLI but i would have had a rocket if i would have bought
2 970´s
Or was my 660ti 2way SLI much better scraling than let´s say gtx970 ?

In the same time i bought the 980ti i was thinking, this is just a phase. i still can´t avoid the SLI forever,
eventually im gonna upgrade to SLI , so it would have been propably much better choise to do 970 2waySLI or 980´s. Well when i SLI , i get shit load of memory. Weather i need it or not.
AT FullHD ..... hahahahahah

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#1
Posted 08/18/2015 01:56 PM   
No offence man but your post seems like your thoughts written. I lost the meaning about half reading..anyway, in my opinion if you care for visual quality while gaming in 3D then SLI is a must,not arguing about it. I don't understand people who compare a single 980ti with two 970s in SLI,overall it's not even a fair "fight" if you get it. 980Ti is way too much expensive for what it gives right now but IMHO a real 3D gamer goes to SLI ASAP even with 980ti..if for 980Ti won't be an option for a long time then better get now two 970s OR save money for buying two 980Ti when possible. Still the price is not and won't be acceptable ever for them..
No offence man but your post seems like your thoughts written. I lost the meaning about half reading..anyway, in my opinion if you care for visual quality while gaming in 3D then SLI is a must,not arguing about it.
I don't understand people who compare a single 980ti with two 970s in SLI,overall it's not even a fair "fight" if you get it. 980Ti is way too much expensive for what it gives right now but IMHO a real 3D gamer goes to SLI ASAP even with 980ti..if for 980Ti won't be an option for a long time then better get now two 970s OR save money for buying two 980Ti when possible. Still the price is not and won't be acceptable ever for them..

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#2
Posted 08/18/2015 07:46 PM   
Actually GPU scaling in SLI is less impressive than benchmark sites suggest, since they are almost always looking at average FPS. Frames per second doesn't give you an accurate analysis of performance because a second is a long time in terms of gaming especially at 120Hz. You need to look at min FPS and especially individual frame times to get a better picture of how performance varies between GPUs. Typically there is a lot more stuttering with SLI because two smaller cards have more power than one bigger GPU but can't provide the same level of smoothness. This excess latency can be improved somewhat with drivers, but SLI support is inconsistent especially with 3D Vision. Check out this review for a comparison of 980Ti with multi GPU configs. One 980Ti has better min FPS than 970 SLI, but is slower than two 980s. http://www.maximumpc.com/nvidia-geforce-gtx-980-ti-review/ (section on 980Ti takes on Multi-GPU) http://653fb62b3a129d296422-3019ba142970aa3e5db9c4ca20cb2da4.r64.cf1.rackcdn.com/images/ETc7UQi3DZlZ.878x0.Z-Z96KYq.jpg This is for 2D. In 3D you also have to consider the increased pixel count; since you're rendering both eyes at the same time, you double the amount of work. That's a big deal at 1080p and huge for 1440p 3D on the ROG Swift (instead of 3.7 million pixels you are rendering 7.4 million). That affects VRAM, and I'd rather have the 6GB of the 980Ti than the 3.5GB of the 970 SLI setup. A 980Ti should be KILLING a 2x660Ti SLI setup. A 970 is about on par with two 660Tis, plus the VRAM increase from 1.5GB to 3.5GB is HUGE especially in 3D. It was hard to decipher the OP's question, but it seems he was disappointed that a 980Ti in 3D wasn't as good as 2x970 SLI in 2D. But that's expected. The 980Ti will be as good as the two 970s if you compare them both in 2D, but once you turn on 3D the performance drops A LOT. The 970s will struggle just as much in 3D (actually slightly more). So the problem isn't with the 980Ti, it's with the expectations. Finally, a 980Ti costs about the same as two 970s, so I don't underestand how you can say a 980Ti is "way too much expensive" but then recommend getting two 970s. The cost is comparable. Personally I would suggest if you are considering one 980Ti or two 970s, go with the 980Ti. Minimum frame times will be better and you don't have to worry about SLI driver support.
Actually GPU scaling in SLI is less impressive than benchmark sites suggest, since they are almost always looking at average FPS. Frames per second doesn't give you an accurate analysis of performance because a second is a long time in terms of gaming especially at 120Hz. You need to look at min FPS and especially individual frame times to get a better picture of how performance varies between GPUs. Typically there is a lot more stuttering with SLI because two smaller cards have more power than one bigger GPU but can't provide the same level of smoothness. This excess latency can be improved somewhat with drivers, but SLI support is inconsistent especially with 3D Vision.

Check out this review for a comparison of 980Ti with multi GPU configs. One 980Ti has better min FPS than 970 SLI, but is slower than two 980s.

http://www.maximumpc.com/nvidia-geforce-gtx-980-ti-review/
(section on 980Ti takes on Multi-GPU)

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This is for 2D. In 3D you also have to consider the increased pixel count; since you're rendering both eyes at the same time, you double the amount of work. That's a big deal at 1080p and huge for 1440p 3D on the ROG Swift (instead of 3.7 million pixels you are rendering 7.4 million). That affects VRAM, and I'd rather have the 6GB of the 980Ti than the 3.5GB of the 970 SLI setup.

A 980Ti should be KILLING a 2x660Ti SLI setup. A 970 is about on par with two 660Tis, plus the VRAM increase from 1.5GB to 3.5GB is HUGE especially in 3D. It was hard to decipher the OP's question, but it seems he was disappointed that a 980Ti in 3D wasn't as good as 2x970 SLI in 2D. But that's expected. The 980Ti will be as good as the two 970s if you compare them both in 2D, but once you turn on 3D the performance drops A LOT. The 970s will struggle just as much in 3D (actually slightly more). So the problem isn't with the 980Ti, it's with the expectations.

Finally, a 980Ti costs about the same as two 970s, so I don't underestand how you can say a 980Ti is "way too much expensive" but then recommend getting two 970s. The cost is comparable. Personally I would suggest if you are considering one 980Ti or two 970s, go with the 980Ti. Minimum frame times will be better and you don't have to worry about SLI driver support.

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#3
Posted 08/18/2015 10:39 PM   
[quote=""] A 970 is about on par with two 660Tis, plus the VRAM increase from 1.5GB to 3.5GB is HUGE especially in 3D. [/quote] Wait what? Since when does VRAM usage is higher in 3D Vision ???? If a program uses X amount in 2D it will use approx. X amount of VRAM in 3D as well (there is a minor overhead). EVEN if in 3D Vision you have to render a view from 2 perspectives the VRAM usage will not be bigger. I agree that 1.5Gb in current days is LESS than ideal (even 3GB is) but the VRAM factor is not related to 3D Vision but rather with games being demanding of extra Video Ram. Before you disagree check out how 3D Vision Automatic is working and then you will understand;)
said:
A 970 is about on par with two 660Tis, plus the VRAM increase from 1.5GB to 3.5GB is HUGE especially in 3D.


Wait what?

Since when does VRAM usage is higher in 3D Vision ???? If a program uses X amount in 2D it will use approx. X amount of VRAM in 3D as well (there is a minor overhead).

EVEN if in 3D Vision you have to render a view from 2 perspectives the VRAM usage will not be bigger. I agree that 1.5Gb in current days is LESS than ideal (even 3GB is) but the VRAM factor is not related to 3D Vision but rather with games being demanding of extra Video Ram.

Before you disagree check out how 3D Vision Automatic is working and then you will understand;)

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#4
Posted 08/19/2015 12:11 AM   
Sorry about streaming my mind :) Point was: I knew even 970 is gonna be faster than my 660ti 2way SLI , and the 660ti´s had only 2GB vram that was proving to be too low anyways. But im an dissappointed in the reviews that ranked 980ti at the same performance level than 970 2way SLI, well about the same. Probaly i just had too much believe invested in the 980ti´s performance so i eat it up. I gues im dissapponted the reviewers did not mention that it´s a whole new ball game when rendering 3D. that the difference between gtx980ti and 2 way sli of 970 in 3D is huge...i assume ? Point of my thread was that someone would say yes the difference is huge and im correct that SLI on 2D is kind of waste of money. and i was hoping someone to say SLI works as good i expect in 3D no matter the card ? And that im asking because everybody´s always complaining about sli but i did not have any major problems with my 660ti SLI setup. Well it´s too late to complain when the delivery is made and the pants are already dirty. I just need to brake the bank again. maby i´ll wait to next summer when VR is bigger and the manufacturers are forced to bump up the speed of all cards manufactured to meet the demands of VR. My corsair 750HX is not going to be good enough to run 980ti in SLI anyways.
Sorry about streaming my mind :)

Point was: I knew even 970 is gonna be faster than my 660ti 2way SLI , and the 660ti´s had only 2GB
vram that was proving to be too low anyways. But im an dissappointed in the reviews that ranked
980ti at the same performance level than 970 2way SLI, well about the same. Probaly i just had
too much believe invested in the 980ti´s performance so i eat it up.

I gues im dissapponted the reviewers did not mention that it´s a whole new ball game when rendering 3D.
that the difference between gtx980ti and 2 way sli of 970 in 3D is huge...i assume ?

Point of my thread was that someone would say yes the difference is huge and im correct that SLI on 2D is
kind of waste of money.

and i was hoping someone to say SLI works as good i expect in 3D no matter the card ?

And that im asking because everybody´s always complaining about sli but i did not have any
major problems with my 660ti SLI setup.

Well it´s too late to complain when the delivery is made and the pants are already dirty.

I just need to brake the bank again. maby i´ll wait to next summer when VR is bigger and
the manufacturers are forced to bump up the speed of all cards manufactured to meet the
demands of VR. My corsair 750HX is not going to be good enough to run 980ti in SLI anyways.

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#5
Posted 08/19/2015 04:08 AM   
[quote=""]Sorry about streaming my mind :) Point was: I knew even 970 is gonna be faster than my 660ti 2way SLI , and the 660ti´s had only 2GB vram that was proving to be too low anyways. But im an dissappointed in the reviews that ranked 980ti at the same performance level than 970 2way SLI, well about the same. Probaly i just had too much believe invested in the 980ti´s performance so i eat it up. I gues im dissapponted the reviewers did not mention that it´s a whole new ball game when rendering 3D. that the difference between gtx980ti and 2 way sli of 970 in 3D is huge...i assume ? Point of my thread was that someone would say yes the difference is huge and im correct that SLI on 2D is kind of waste of money. and i was hoping someone to say SLI works as good i expect in 3D no matter the card ? And that im asking because everybody´s always complaining about sli but i did not have any major problems with my 660ti SLI setup. Well it´s too late to complain when the delivery is made and the pants are already dirty. I just need to brake the bank again. maby i´ll wait to next summer when VR is bigger and the manufacturers are forced to bump up the speed of all cards manufactured to meet the demands of VR. My corsair 750HX is not going to be good enough to run 980ti in SLI anyways. [/quote] Hey man, don't be bummed, you got a great card, besides (and I know this is a bit more debatable nowadays but..) The process of buying a new GPU should be done with SLI in mind at the time, especially if you are building a rig from scratch. But many times, the choice and golden rule I have lived by is simply this; Buy the SINGLE best card your budget will allow and plan on SLI'ing when the 'tock' side of the 'tick-tock' cycle has begun, or just before. This way you have plenty of choice to pick up a second card on the cheap as other 'Early Adopters' sell off their high end cards in expectation of the now labled 'Ti' fab shrink, (used to be the 280, then the 285 - where the '5' is the 'tock' or the 'Ti's of today.) Of course, if money is no object then you just buy whenever and whatever you feel like, negating the former process altogether - this is my fav way to do things, but I very seldom (well, maybe never) can. ~Nutz Anyway, good luck with your new card!
said:Sorry about streaming my mind :)

Point was: I knew even 970 is gonna be faster than my 660ti 2way SLI , and the 660ti´s had only 2GB
vram that was proving to be too low anyways. But im an dissappointed in the reviews that ranked
980ti at the same performance level than 970 2way SLI, well about the same. Probaly i just had
too much believe invested in the 980ti´s performance so i eat it up.

I gues im dissapponted the reviewers did not mention that it´s a whole new ball game when rendering 3D.
that the difference between gtx980ti and 2 way sli of 970 in 3D is huge...i assume ?

Point of my thread was that someone would say yes the difference is huge and im correct that SLI on 2D is
kind of waste of money.

and i was hoping someone to say SLI works as good i expect in 3D no matter the card ?

And that im asking because everybody´s always complaining about sli but i did not have any
major problems with my 660ti SLI setup.

Well it´s too late to complain when the delivery is made and the pants are already dirty.

I just need to brake the bank again. maby i´ll wait to next summer when VR is bigger and
the manufacturers are forced to bump up the speed of all cards manufactured to meet the
demands of VR. My corsair 750HX is not going to be good enough to run 980ti in SLI anyways.



Hey man, don't be bummed, you got a great card, besides (and I know this is a bit more debatable nowadays but..) The process of buying a new GPU should be done with SLI in mind at the time, especially if you are building a rig from scratch. But many times, the choice and golden rule I have lived by is simply this;

Buy the SINGLE best card your budget will allow and plan on SLI'ing when the 'tock' side of the 'tick-tock' cycle has begun, or just before. This way you have plenty of choice to pick up a second card on the cheap as other 'Early Adopters' sell off their high end cards in expectation of the now labled 'Ti' fab shrink, (used to be the 280, then the 285 - where the '5' is the 'tock' or the 'Ti's of today.)

Of course, if money is no object then you just buy whenever and whatever you feel like, negating the former process altogether - this is my fav way to do things, but I very seldom (well, maybe never) can.

~Nutz

Anyway, good luck with your new card!

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#6
Posted 08/19/2015 05:32 AM   
@WestBrook348: Awesome link there to the Maximum PC test. I really liked that they focused on MIN frame rates, as that is also my key metric for how well games play. Average is far too misleading. [url]http://www.maximumpc.com/nvidia-gtx-980-ti-2-way-sli-crushing-performance/[/url] There are some particularly interesting conclusions you can draw from those tests. First is that SLI scaling is really poor nowadays. The only game there that scaled well was Tomb Raider. Everything else was in the 20-50% range, even at higher resolutions like 4K where you'd really expect a difference. This strongly suggests that at least for these tests, there isn't really a GPU bottleneck. It's either balanced, or the CPU is a bottleneck (like at 1080p). That pretty much holds true for 3D as well. The scaling has been pretty good, maybe 50% for recent games, but not like the nearly 90% we've gotten in the past. In 3D we also have the 3-core problem, which makes scaling even worse for games like GTA5. So, the bang for the buck on SLI setups is not as good as it was for 3D, at least for DX11 games. So, my conclusion is that for today at least, you are probably slightly better off with a single card, and a 980ti is not a bad choice. I personally would not do that because of the driver limitations, but it's not a bad choice for 3D. @Metaloholic: As a proxy for 3D use, you can look at how well a card does for 2D at higher resolutions. It's essentially doubling the number of pixels as the primary impact, which is the same as increasing the resolution. As a rough rule of thumb for 3D at 1080p, you can use 2D benchmarks at 1440p. 1920 x 1080p = 2073600 pixels 2560 x 1440p = 3686400 pixels 78% more pixels, not 100%. It's never that easy of course, because of how the bottleneck ebbs and flows to different parts of the system. But as a rule of thumb it's not too bad. As far as your PSU, that 750W would be absolutely fine with two 980ti. Don't let anyone convince you it's underpowered, as I see pretty much nothing but bad advice on power supplies on the web. People almost always wildly overspec their PSU. Keep in mind that any power supply can do its maximum, it's only a question of efficiency. And that you will never have your system drawing maximum power all the time. Look at SLI- if it's only running the GPUs at 70%, clearly that's never going to use maximum power. Best calculator: http://outervision.com/power-supply-calculator I use a 750W power supply for even SLI GTX 690, which is quad SLI. It's fine.
@WestBrook348: Awesome link there to the Maximum PC test. I really liked that they focused on MIN frame rates, as that is also my key metric for how well games play. Average is far too misleading.

http://www.maximumpc.com/nvidia-gtx-980-ti-2-way-sli-crushing-performance/

There are some particularly interesting conclusions you can draw from those tests. First is that SLI scaling is really poor nowadays. The only game there that scaled well was Tomb Raider. Everything else was in the 20-50% range, even at higher resolutions like 4K where you'd really expect a difference.

This strongly suggests that at least for these tests, there isn't really a GPU bottleneck. It's either balanced, or the CPU is a bottleneck (like at 1080p).

That pretty much holds true for 3D as well. The scaling has been pretty good, maybe 50% for recent games, but not like the nearly 90% we've gotten in the past. In 3D we also have the 3-core problem, which makes scaling even worse for games like GTA5. So, the bang for the buck on SLI setups is not as good as it was for 3D, at least for DX11 games.

So, my conclusion is that for today at least, you are probably slightly better off with a single card, and a 980ti is not a bad choice. I personally would not do that because of the driver limitations, but it's not a bad choice for 3D.


@Metaloholic: As a proxy for 3D use, you can look at how well a card does for 2D at higher resolutions. It's essentially doubling the number of pixels as the primary impact, which is the same as increasing the resolution. As a rough rule of thumb for 3D at 1080p, you can use 2D benchmarks at 1440p.

1920 x 1080p = 2073600 pixels 2560 x 1440p = 3686400 pixels 78% more pixels, not 100%.

It's never that easy of course, because of how the bottleneck ebbs and flows to different parts of the system. But as a rule of thumb it's not too bad.


As far as your PSU, that 750W would be absolutely fine with two 980ti. Don't let anyone convince you it's underpowered, as I see pretty much nothing but bad advice on power supplies on the web. People almost always wildly overspec their PSU.

Keep in mind that any power supply can do its maximum, it's only a question of efficiency. And that you will never have your system drawing maximum power all the time. Look at SLI- if it's only running the GPUs at 70%, clearly that's never going to use maximum power.

Best calculator: http://outervision.com/power-supply-calculator

I use a 750W power supply for even SLI GTX 690, which is quad SLI. It's fine.

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#7
Posted 08/19/2015 08:13 AM   
can the scaling be measured by afterburners gpu usage ? by this i mean i had always gpu´s topping out when ever i found a good driver for current game i was playing and good bitts for sli. Both cards had gpu constantly over 95 prosent in usage. no matter what game old or new. I played GTAV in 3D vision, metro original and reduxes, ect. about every new game upto GTAV. about 980ti´s drivers. heh i tested alien isolation one night. It was running at lower framerate than with my 660ti SLI ...hah.. with DIrt rally i got a decent boost, with 660ti SLI i got about 45 fps average in 3D 1080p@120Hz but with 980ti i get 60 fps average. allthoug not as much i expected but it´s enough for that game. Can anyone suggest setting for the crysis3 to run it at minimum 45 fps@1080p with my 980ti ?
can the scaling be measured by afterburners gpu usage ?
by this i mean i had always gpu´s topping out when ever i found a good driver for current game
i was playing and good bitts for sli. Both cards had gpu constantly over 95 prosent in usage.
no matter what game old or new. I played GTAV in 3D vision, metro original and reduxes, ect.
about every new game upto GTAV.

about 980ti´s drivers. heh i tested alien isolation one night. It was running at lower framerate than with
my 660ti SLI ...hah.. with DIrt rally i got a decent boost, with 660ti SLI i got about 45 fps average in 3D
1080p@120Hz but with 980ti i get 60 fps average. allthoug not as much i expected but it´s enough for that game.

Can anyone suggest setting for the crysis3 to run it at minimum 45 fps@1080p with my 980ti ?

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#8
Posted 08/19/2015 02:09 PM   
http://techreport.com/review/28356/nvidia-geforce-gtx-980-ti-graphics-card-reviewed/11 TechReport is my favorite benchmark site because they do frame time analysis not just avg FPS (even min FPS isn't as good of a measurement). 980Ti can play Crysis 3 in 4K with SMAA x1, very high textures, high system spec, and get avg FPS 46 and 99th percentile frame times 28.4 ms (35.2 fps). 1080p in 2D is 2.1M pixels, in 3D it's 4.2M pixels, and 4K is 8.3M pixels. Like Bo3b said, 1080p in 3D is most similar to the GPU load of 2D 1440p/1600p. So I think you should have no problem running those settings at 1080p 3D and getting your min 45 fps. 980Ti is an awesome card. The fact that yours was running at lower FPS than 660Ti SLI makes me think there's something wrong w/ your card, or you need to reinstall newer drivers (352.90 or later for 980Ti support). My 980Ti ran Tomb Raider at a fairly steady 60 fps at 1440p 3D with everything on ULTRA. Crysis 3 is more demanding than Tomb Raider but you are playing at a lower resolution. You should be able to do at least High settings if not Very High or Ultra. If you keep having poor performance with your 980Ti run some standardized benchmarks and compare to others. You might have a faulty card.
http://techreport.com/review/28356/nvidia-geforce-gtx-980-ti-graphics-card-reviewed/11

TechReport is my favorite benchmark site because they do frame time analysis not just avg FPS (even min FPS isn't as good of a measurement). 980Ti can play Crysis 3 in 4K with SMAA x1, very high textures, high system spec, and get avg FPS 46 and 99th percentile frame times 28.4 ms (35.2 fps). 1080p in 2D is 2.1M pixels, in 3D it's 4.2M pixels, and 4K is 8.3M pixels. Like Bo3b said, 1080p in 3D is most similar to the GPU load of 2D 1440p/1600p. So I think you should have no problem running those settings at 1080p 3D and getting your min 45 fps.

980Ti is an awesome card. The fact that yours was running at lower FPS than 660Ti SLI makes me think there's something wrong w/ your card, or you need to reinstall newer drivers (352.90 or later for 980Ti support). My 980Ti ran Tomb Raider at a fairly steady 60 fps at 1440p 3D with everything on ULTRA. Crysis 3 is more demanding than Tomb Raider but you are playing at a lower resolution. You should be able to do at least High settings if not Very High or Ultra.

If you keep having poor performance with your 980Ti run some standardized benchmarks and compare to others. You might have a faulty card.

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#9
Posted 08/19/2015 03:22 PM   
I just tested crysis. the insides run good but when ever some larger areas the frames are not that good. Im at 1080p 3D vision AA disabled texture resolution very high. system specs high (everything high) I get lot´s of chogging. like memory fills when you have too low memory on your gpu. like 2GB and trying to run the highest textures. my system memory is 16GB (memtested about 30 hours) intel i52500K@stock currently 3.3Ghz i have a clean fresh install of w7pro and im running the latest nvidia drivers 355.60 i also have some breaking in the 3D. also in dirt sometimes. is there any good win7 driver for 980ti ? How do i know my card is to blame? gonna put it to run allnight with 3dmark
I just tested crysis. the insides run good but when ever some larger areas the frames are not that good.
Im at 1080p 3D vision
AA disabled texture resolution very high. system specs high (everything high)

I get lot´s of chogging. like memory fills when you have too low memory on your gpu.
like 2GB and trying to run the highest textures.
my system memory is 16GB (memtested about 30 hours) intel i52500K@stock currently 3.3Ghz
i have a clean fresh install of w7pro and im running the latest nvidia drivers 355.60

i also have some breaking in the 3D. also in dirt sometimes.

is there any good win7 driver for 980ti ?

How do i know my card is to blame? gonna put it to run allnight with 3dmark

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#10
Posted 08/20/2015 10:08 PM   
You're probably CPU limited in Crysis 3 with a 980Ti, depending on what's going on in the game. i5-2500k is still a pretty decent CPU but it's almost 5 years old and w/o overclocking , you'll probably get some stuttering in newest most demanding games. 3.3 Ghz Sandy Bridge is pretty slow for modern GPUs; for your CPU to keep up with a 980Ti, you might consider trying to OC it to 4.0-4.4 Ghz. You might check your GPU utilization and make sure the GPU isn't throttling; if it is, change control panel settings to max performance with no energy savings. Run benchmarks like Heaven or Valley, or built in game benchmarks like GTA5, Tomb Raider, etc. Then compare to other people with same system. If yours is dramatically slower, your card might have a problem.
You're probably CPU limited in Crysis 3 with a 980Ti, depending on what's going on in the game. i5-2500k is still a pretty decent CPU but it's almost 5 years old and w/o overclocking , you'll probably get some stuttering in newest most demanding games. 3.3 Ghz Sandy Bridge is pretty slow for modern GPUs; for your CPU to keep up with a 980Ti, you might consider trying to OC it to 4.0-4.4 Ghz.

You might check your GPU utilization and make sure the GPU isn't throttling; if it is, change control panel settings to max performance with no energy savings.

Run benchmarks like Heaven or Valley, or built in game benchmarks like GTA5, Tomb Raider, etc. Then compare to other people with same system. If yours is dramatically slower, your card might have a problem.

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#11
Posted 08/21/2015 04:26 AM   
Yes my cpu goes 4.3 im on water. just had not upped it after bios reset. I´ll try some benchmarks. what do you mean throttling and how do i check it ?
Yes my cpu goes 4.3 im on water. just had not upped it after bios reset.
I´ll try some benchmarks.

what do you mean throttling and how do i check it ?

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#12
Posted 08/21/2015 02:53 PM   
Throttling is when the GPU isn't running at 100% even when you need it to be. Sometimes you'll be getting stuttering and your GPU is only running at 40-60%. That can sometimes be a driver issue, but also there are power savings options in the Nvidia Control Panel that try to find a balance between performance and utilization. This can have an impact on gaming so if you have any question about why you're not getting expected frame times, turning your power savings options OFF (to "max performance" mode) is one thing you can do to troubleshoot.
Throttling is when the GPU isn't running at 100% even when you need it to be. Sometimes you'll be getting stuttering and your GPU is only running at 40-60%. That can sometimes be a driver issue, but also there are power savings options in the Nvidia Control Panel that try to find a balance between performance and utilization. This can have an impact on gaming so if you have any question about why you're not getting expected frame times, turning your power savings options OFF (to "max performance" mode) is one thing you can do to troubleshoot.

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#13
Posted 08/21/2015 03:20 PM   
just tested the dirt more thoroughly. the problem with that game is wierd, i cant quite explain it. the other view is lagging or something. the errors seems random but i found out the errors occur always in the same places. must be driver issue ? the crysis is horrible chogging. atleast when starting game. and some open areas. Alien isolation works perfect so it can´t be the card. everything in 3d ofcourse. im disappointed on the 980ti driver development.
just tested the dirt more thoroughly. the problem with that game is wierd, i cant quite explain it.
the other view is lagging or something. the errors seems random but i found out the errors occur always in the
same places. must be driver issue ?
the crysis is horrible chogging. atleast when starting game. and some open areas.
Alien isolation works perfect so it can´t be the card.
everything in 3d ofcourse.

im disappointed on the 980ti driver development.

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#14
Posted 08/21/2015 05:23 PM   
about alien isolation.the scanner works wierd. the background goes 2D or somthing happens when i pull it up. still the scanner is in 3d
about alien isolation.the scanner works wierd. the background goes 2D or somthing happens when i pull it up.
still the scanner is in 3d

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#15
Posted 08/21/2015 05:30 PM   
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