[quote="joker18"]I am using a passive display so refresh rate is 60 for me.
I compared release form 28 and last one using exactly the same static environment.
With the 28.09 release Fraps reports 45 FPS. Eye-sync a little bit noticeable but OK. However FPS is locked to max 60 with or without Vsync
Last release I get 75 fps but the Eye-lag is more noticeable, fps goes up to 128ish ( I have it locked up to 125 in nvinspector)
My feeling is that the FPS reporting is different and actually in the first case I'm getting more fps.
PS:I'm on 355.82, single GPU
[/quote]
So basically, with the previous version you were getting better results yes? (28/09)
Yes, that is my conclusion also, that FPS reports are a bit messed up in this engine (probably cause the engine runs as fast as it can, but 3D Vision locks the FPS down to 120Hz for it to sync the frames and it actually reports lower FPS than actually are).
joker18 said:I am using a passive display so refresh rate is 60 for me.
I compared release form 28 and last one using exactly the same static environment.
With the 28.09 release Fraps reports 45 FPS. Eye-sync a little bit noticeable but OK. However FPS is locked to max 60 with or without Vsync
Last release I get 75 fps but the Eye-lag is more noticeable, fps goes up to 128ish ( I have it locked up to 125 in nvinspector)
My feeling is that the FPS reporting is different and actually in the first case I'm getting more fps.
PS:I'm on 355.82, single GPU
So basically, with the previous version you were getting better results yes? (28/09)
Yes, that is my conclusion also, that FPS reports are a bit messed up in this engine (probably cause the engine runs as fast as it can, but 3D Vision locks the FPS down to 120Hz for it to sync the frames and it actually reports lower FPS than actually are).
1x Palit RTX 2080Ti Pro Gaming OC(watercooled and overclocked to hell)
3x 3D Vision Ready Asus VG278HE monitors (5760x1080).
Intel i9 9900K (overclocked to 5.3 and watercooled ofc).
Asus Maximus XI Hero Mobo.
16 GB Team Group T-Force Dark Pro DDR4 @ 3600.
Lots of Disks:
- Raid 0 - 256GB Sandisk Extreme SSD.
- Raid 0 - WD Black - 2TB.
- SanDisk SSD PLUS 480 GB.
- Intel 760p 256GB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD.
Creative Sound Blaster Z.
Windows 10 x64 Pro.
etc
Yes! with Previous version I am getting better result from Eye sync point of view.
On the other hand 3D is much more correct on today's version.
Disabling 3d Vision and setting my TV to Side by Side increases FPS and Eye lag is similar to 28.09 version. However in this way I loose the ability to setup convergence.
Yes! with Previous version I am getting better result from Eye sync point of view.
On the other hand 3D is much more correct on today's version.
Disabling 3d Vision and setting my TV to Side by Side increases FPS and Eye lag is similar to 28.09 version. However in this way I loose the ability to setup convergence.
Intel i7 8086K
Gigabyte GTX 1080Ti Aorus Extreme
DDR4 2x8gb 3200mhz Cl14
TV LG OLED65E6V
Windows 10 64bits
[quote="joker18"]Yes! with Previous version I am getting better result from Eye sync point of view.
On the other hand 3D is much more correct on today's version.
Disabling 3d Vision and setting my TV to Side by Side increases FPS and Eye lag is similar to 28.09 version. However in this way I loose the ability to setup convergence. [/quote]
Big thanks for the feedback!!! Is exactly what I am looking for. There are millions of PCs out there and billions of people. Each one perceives 3D a "bit different" and if you throw the PC into the equation... well what looks OK for me, might not be OK for you;)
I am preparing another release that will use the settings from the previous version WHILE giving the ability to change them to the current version or any combination in-between.
joker18 said:Yes! with Previous version I am getting better result from Eye sync point of view.
On the other hand 3D is much more correct on today's version.
Disabling 3d Vision and setting my TV to Side by Side increases FPS and Eye lag is similar to 28.09 version. However in this way I loose the ability to setup convergence.
Big thanks for the feedback!!! Is exactly what I am looking for. There are millions of PCs out there and billions of people. Each one perceives 3D a "bit different" and if you throw the PC into the equation... well what looks OK for me, might not be OK for you;)
I am preparing another release that will use the settings from the previous version WHILE giving the ability to change them to the current version or any combination in-between.
1x Palit RTX 2080Ti Pro Gaming OC(watercooled and overclocked to hell)
3x 3D Vision Ready Asus VG278HE monitors (5760x1080).
Intel i9 9900K (overclocked to 5.3 and watercooled ofc).
Asus Maximus XI Hero Mobo.
16 GB Team Group T-Force Dark Pro DDR4 @ 3600.
Lots of Disks:
- Raid 0 - 256GB Sandisk Extreme SSD.
- Raid 0 - WD Black - 2TB.
- SanDisk SSD PLUS 480 GB.
- Intel 760p 256GB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD.
Creative Sound Blaster Z.
Windows 10 x64 Pro.
etc
[color="green"]NEW FIX IS UP[/color]
Additions:
- All shader fixes from the previous version!
- Wrapper is by default configured as before (Version from 28/09).
- Added ability to change how frames are presented:
[code]
SyncToMonitorRefreshRate = true | Should we sync to monitor Refresh rate? Or leave it run "Wild"? Try this setting to see if you get "less eye-sync" problems.
AlternateFramesRendering = false | Default value: False. Frames are rendered: 1/2->show; 3/4->show; 5/6->show. If true, frames are rendered: 1/2->show; 2/3->show; 3/4->show. Setting to true MIGHT improve eye-sync on some systems or decrease on others.
[/code]
On some systems I found out that if you set:
[code]
SyncToMonitorRefreshRate = false
AlternateFramesRendering = true
[/code]
You get better results! So, EXPERIMENT and see what WORKS best for you !!!
Steps:
- Uninstall the previous fix (use UNINSTALL.BAT).
- READ THE README.PDF to see how to change/configure!!!!!!!!
- Add the new fix
- Play!
Looking for feedback!
Cheers!
PS: For SLI users (single Monitor), use the current settings and set
[code]
ForceFullScreen = true
[/code]
This should give the performance as the fix from (28/09)!
Additions:
- All shader fixes from the previous version!
- Wrapper is by default configured as before (Version from 28/09).
- Added ability to change how frames are presented:
SyncToMonitorRefreshRate = true | Should we sync to monitor Refresh rate? Or leave it run "Wild"? Try this setting to see if you get "less eye-sync" problems.
AlternateFramesRendering = false | Default value: False. Frames are rendered: 1/2->show; 3/4->show; 5/6->show. If true, frames are rendered: 1/2->show; 2/3->show; 3/4->show. Setting to true MIGHT improve eye-sync on some systems or decrease on others.
You get better results! So, EXPERIMENT and see what WORKS best for you !!!
Steps:
- Uninstall the previous fix (use UNINSTALL.BAT).
- READ THE README.PDF to see how to change/configure!!!!!!!!
- Add the new fix
- Play!
Looking for feedback!
Cheers!
PS: For SLI users (single Monitor), use the current settings and set
ForceFullScreen = true
This should give the performance as the fix from (28/09)!
1x Palit RTX 2080Ti Pro Gaming OC(watercooled and overclocked to hell)
3x 3D Vision Ready Asus VG278HE monitors (5760x1080).
Intel i9 9900K (overclocked to 5.3 and watercooled ofc).
Asus Maximus XI Hero Mobo.
16 GB Team Group T-Force Dark Pro DDR4 @ 3600.
Lots of Disks:
- Raid 0 - 256GB Sandisk Extreme SSD.
- Raid 0 - WD Black - 2TB.
- SanDisk SSD PLUS 480 GB.
- Intel 760p 256GB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD.
Creative Sound Blaster Z.
Windows 10 x64 Pro.
etc
latest fix is working WAY BETTER for me. Thanks. It's completely playable now and eye sync is almost perfect and I'm getting full 120 FPS.
I'm using the default option with the latest fix, Sync to monitor refresh rate.
This game is awesome. Reminds me of non action version of Bioshock 1. Very atmospheric, great story, great music, etc.
ASUS Prime z370-A, i5 8600K, ASUS GTX 1080 Ti Strix, 16 GB DDR4, Corsair AX860i PSU, ASUS VG278HR, 3D Vision 2, Sound Blaster Z, Astro A50 Headphones, Windows 10 64-bit Home
Well, seems I'm out of luck completely :((( Can't get new fix to work on my machine... I'm getting at most 60 FPS. Tried all variants with new variables [i]SyncToMonitorRefreshRate[/i] and [i]AlternateFramesRendering[/i] - no diffrence in FPS at all. Changing in-game settings does nothing to FPS. Disabling 3D (CTRL+T) rises FPS to 120. Starting game with "3D Vision Discovery" mode gives 120 FPS. Otherwise - 60... :(
[b]EDIT:[/b] And now this is weird... With SLI disabled I'm getting better performance - 70 FPS :|
Well, seems I'm out of luck completely :((( Can't get new fix to work on my machine... I'm getting at most 60 FPS. Tried all variants with new variables SyncToMonitorRefreshRate and AlternateFramesRendering - no diffrence in FPS at all. Changing in-game settings does nothing to FPS. Disabling 3D (CTRL+T) rises FPS to 120. Starting game with "3D Vision Discovery" mode gives 120 FPS. Otherwise - 60... :(
EDIT: And now this is weird... With SLI disabled I'm getting better performance - 70 FPS :|
ASUS Prime z370-A, i5 8600K, ASUS GTX 1080 Ti Strix, 16 GB DDR4, Corsair AX860i PSU, ASUS VG278HR, 3D Vision 2, Sound Blaster Z, Astro A50 Headphones, Windows 10 64-bit Home
[quote="Conan481"]latest fix is working WAY BETTER for me. Thanks. It's completely playable now and eye sync is almost perfect and I'm getting full 120 FPS.
I'm using the default option with the latest fix, Sync to monitor refresh rate.
This game is awesome. Reminds me of non action version of Bioshock 1. Very atmospheric, great story, great music, etc.[/quote]
You say Bioshock but I say - does anybody remember movie from 1990 called "Hardware" ?
This people must be big fans of this title.
Conan481 said:latest fix is working WAY BETTER for me. Thanks. It's completely playable now and eye sync is almost perfect and I'm getting full 120 FPS.
I'm using the default option with the latest fix, Sync to monitor refresh rate.
This game is awesome. Reminds me of non action version of Bioshock 1. Very atmospheric, great story, great music, etc.
You say Bioshock but I say - does anybody remember movie from 1990 called "Hardware" ?
This people must be big fans of this title.
Guys, maybe someone still having 29 day fix? I deleted it from my machine :( Wanna give it a try and see if FPS is back... Thanks.
ASUS Prime z370-A, i5 8600K, ASUS GTX 1080 Ti Strix, 16 GB DDR4, Corsair AX860i PSU, ASUS VG278HR, 3D Vision 2, Sound Blaster Z, Astro A50 Headphones, Windows 10 64-bit Home
Below my results:
1.SyncToMonitorRefreshRate = true
AlternateFramesRendering = false
- solid 60 fps Eye sync problem
2. SyncToMonitorRefreshRate = true
AlternateFramesRendering = true
- solid 60fps Eye sync problem
3 SyncToMonitorRefreshRate = false
AlternateFramesRendering = true
- 70-80 fps ingame Eye sync problem
-127 fps at main menu Eye sync problem
4 SyncToMonitorRefreshRate = false
AlternateFramesRendering = false
-70-80 fps ingame Eye sync comes and goes
- 127 at main menu Eye sync problem seems to be less noticeable
5.28.09 version
- 45-50 fps ingame - complete eye sync
- menu 60 fps - complete eye sync
PS: As a test pattern Eye sync is very visible on my passive display in main menu looking at mouse cursor and at mouse cursor passing over the options.
LE: Seregin. I attached it but you should know this version has problems with some shadows and reflections.
3 SyncToMonitorRefreshRate = false
AlternateFramesRendering = true
- 70-80 fps ingame Eye sync problem
-127 fps at main menu Eye sync problem
4 SyncToMonitorRefreshRate = false
AlternateFramesRendering = false
-70-80 fps ingame Eye sync comes and goes
- 127 at main menu Eye sync problem seems to be less noticeable
5.28.09 version
- 45-50 fps ingame - complete eye sync
- menu 60 fps - complete eye sync
PS: As a test pattern Eye sync is very visible on my passive display in main menu looking at mouse cursor and at mouse cursor passing over the options.
LE: Seregin. I attached it but you should know this version has problems with some shadows and reflections.
Intel i7 8086K
Gigabyte GTX 1080Ti Aorus Extreme
DDR4 2x8gb 3200mhz Cl14
TV LG OLED65E6V
Windows 10 64bits
Joker, could you post your fix version here? Thanks.
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[quote="joker18"]LE: Seregin. I attached it but you should know this version has problems with some shadows and reflections. [/quote]
Thank you, Joker. Yeah. I noticed. Seems this isn't the latest version (the last before major changes was introduced by Helifax). Performance is back...
joker18 said:LE: Seregin. I attached it but you should know this version has problems with some shadows and reflections.
Thank you, Joker. Yeah. I noticed. Seems this isn't the latest version (the last before major changes was introduced by Helifax). Performance is back...
ASUS Prime z370-A, i5 8600K, ASUS GTX 1080 Ti Strix, 16 GB DDR4, Corsair AX860i PSU, ASUS VG278HR, 3D Vision 2, Sound Blaster Z, Astro A50 Headphones, Windows 10 64-bit Home
@Seregin:
So basically using the latest version, you can't make the game work like before? That is strange... very strange...
@Joker18:
Interesting results there! Big thanks!
I am really curios as what might have introduced this tbh. As I haven't changed that much stuff... this is so weird;))
I'll investigate and make a new release soon.
So basically using the latest version, you can't make the game work like before? That is strange... very strange...
@Joker18:
Interesting results there! Big thanks!
I am really curios as what might have introduced this tbh. As I haven't changed that much stuff... this is so weird;))
I'll investigate and make a new release soon.
1x Palit RTX 2080Ti Pro Gaming OC(watercooled and overclocked to hell)
3x 3D Vision Ready Asus VG278HE monitors (5760x1080).
Intel i9 9900K (overclocked to 5.3 and watercooled ofc).
Asus Maximus XI Hero Mobo.
16 GB Team Group T-Force Dark Pro DDR4 @ 3600.
Lots of Disks:
- Raid 0 - 256GB Sandisk Extreme SSD.
- Raid 0 - WD Black - 2TB.
- SanDisk SSD PLUS 480 GB.
- Intel 760p 256GB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD.
Creative Sound Blaster Z.
Windows 10 x64 Pro.
etc
Yes, Helifax. Lastest fix while fixing many aspects of game, can't stand in performance with 29.09 version... BTW, maybe you have it somewhere? The best I've got is 28.09 version...
If you can think of anything I could try on my machine - just let me know. I will and report back.
Thanks.
Yes, Helifax. Lastest fix while fixing many aspects of game, can't stand in performance with 29.09 version... BTW, maybe you have it somewhere? The best I've got is 28.09 version...
If you can think of anything I could try on my machine - just let me know. I will and report back.
Thanks.
ASUS Prime z370-A, i5 8600K, ASUS GTX 1080 Ti Strix, 16 GB DDR4, Corsair AX860i PSU, ASUS VG278HR, 3D Vision 2, Sound Blaster Z, Astro A50 Headphones, Windows 10 64-bit Home
So basically, with the previous version you were getting better results yes? (28/09)
Yes, that is my conclusion also, that FPS reports are a bit messed up in this engine (probably cause the engine runs as fast as it can, but 3D Vision locks the FPS down to 120Hz for it to sync the frames and it actually reports lower FPS than actually are).
1x Palit RTX 2080Ti Pro Gaming OC(watercooled and overclocked to hell)
3x 3D Vision Ready Asus VG278HE monitors (5760x1080).
Intel i9 9900K (overclocked to 5.3 and watercooled ofc).
Asus Maximus XI Hero Mobo.
16 GB Team Group T-Force Dark Pro DDR4 @ 3600.
Lots of Disks:
- Raid 0 - 256GB Sandisk Extreme SSD.
- Raid 0 - WD Black - 2TB.
- SanDisk SSD PLUS 480 GB.
- Intel 760p 256GB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD.
Creative Sound Blaster Z.
Windows 10 x64 Pro.
etc
My website with my fixes and OpenGL to 3D Vision wrapper:
http://3dsurroundgaming.com
(If you like some of the stuff that I've done and want to donate something, you can do it with PayPal at tavyhome@gmail.com)
On the other hand 3D is much more correct on today's version.
Disabling 3d Vision and setting my TV to Side by Side increases FPS and Eye lag is similar to 28.09 version. However in this way I loose the ability to setup convergence.
Intel i7 8086K
Gigabyte GTX 1080Ti Aorus Extreme
DDR4 2x8gb 3200mhz Cl14
TV LG OLED65E6V
Windows 10 64bits
Big thanks for the feedback!!! Is exactly what I am looking for. There are millions of PCs out there and billions of people. Each one perceives 3D a "bit different" and if you throw the PC into the equation... well what looks OK for me, might not be OK for you;)
I am preparing another release that will use the settings from the previous version WHILE giving the ability to change them to the current version or any combination in-between.
1x Palit RTX 2080Ti Pro Gaming OC(watercooled and overclocked to hell)
3x 3D Vision Ready Asus VG278HE monitors (5760x1080).
Intel i9 9900K (overclocked to 5.3 and watercooled ofc).
Asus Maximus XI Hero Mobo.
16 GB Team Group T-Force Dark Pro DDR4 @ 3600.
Lots of Disks:
- Raid 0 - 256GB Sandisk Extreme SSD.
- Raid 0 - WD Black - 2TB.
- SanDisk SSD PLUS 480 GB.
- Intel 760p 256GB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD.
Creative Sound Blaster Z.
Windows 10 x64 Pro.
etc
My website with my fixes and OpenGL to 3D Vision wrapper:
http://3dsurroundgaming.com
(If you like some of the stuff that I've done and want to donate something, you can do it with PayPal at tavyhome@gmail.com)
Additions:
- All shader fixes from the previous version!
- Wrapper is by default configured as before (Version from 28/09).
- Added ability to change how frames are presented:
On some systems I found out that if you set:
You get better results! So, EXPERIMENT and see what WORKS best for you !!!
Steps:
- Uninstall the previous fix (use UNINSTALL.BAT).
- READ THE README.PDF to see how to change/configure!!!!!!!!
- Add the new fix
- Play!
Looking for feedback!
Cheers!
PS: For SLI users (single Monitor), use the current settings and set
This should give the performance as the fix from (28/09)!
1x Palit RTX 2080Ti Pro Gaming OC(watercooled and overclocked to hell)
3x 3D Vision Ready Asus VG278HE monitors (5760x1080).
Intel i9 9900K (overclocked to 5.3 and watercooled ofc).
Asus Maximus XI Hero Mobo.
16 GB Team Group T-Force Dark Pro DDR4 @ 3600.
Lots of Disks:
- Raid 0 - 256GB Sandisk Extreme SSD.
- Raid 0 - WD Black - 2TB.
- SanDisk SSD PLUS 480 GB.
- Intel 760p 256GB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD.
Creative Sound Blaster Z.
Windows 10 x64 Pro.
etc
My website with my fixes and OpenGL to 3D Vision wrapper:
http://3dsurroundgaming.com
(If you like some of the stuff that I've done and want to donate something, you can do it with PayPal at tavyhome@gmail.com)
i5 4670K 4.4 Ghz H2O, G.skill 16GB @2.4 Ghz C10, 2xGTX970 G1 SLI, AOC G2460PG, G-sync+3D Vision 2, Win 7x64(ssd), Games on RAID-0
I'm using the default option with the latest fix, Sync to monitor refresh rate.
This game is awesome. Reminds me of non action version of Bioshock 1. Very atmospheric, great story, great music, etc.
ASUS Prime z370-A, i5 8600K, ASUS GTX 1080 Ti Strix, 16 GB DDR4, Corsair AX860i PSU, ASUS VG278HR, 3D Vision 2, Sound Blaster Z, Astro A50 Headphones, Windows 10 64-bit Home
EDIT: And now this is weird... With SLI disabled I'm getting better performance - 70 FPS :|
ASUS Prime z370-A, i5 8600K, ASUS GTX 1080 Ti Strix, 16 GB DDR4, Corsair AX860i PSU, ASUS VG278HR, 3D Vision 2, Sound Blaster Z, Astro A50 Headphones, Windows 10 64-bit Home
You say Bioshock but I say - does anybody remember movie from 1990 called "Hardware" ?
This people must be big fans of this title.
https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198014296177/
ASUS Prime z370-A, i5 8600K, ASUS GTX 1080 Ti Strix, 16 GB DDR4, Corsair AX860i PSU, ASUS VG278HR, 3D Vision 2, Sound Blaster Z, Astro A50 Headphones, Windows 10 64-bit Home
1.SyncToMonitorRefreshRate = true
AlternateFramesRendering = false
- solid 60 fps Eye sync problem
2. SyncToMonitorRefreshRate = true
AlternateFramesRendering = true
- solid 60fps Eye sync problem
3 SyncToMonitorRefreshRate = false
AlternateFramesRendering = true
- 70-80 fps ingame Eye sync problem
-127 fps at main menu Eye sync problem
4 SyncToMonitorRefreshRate = false
AlternateFramesRendering = false
-70-80 fps ingame Eye sync comes and goes
- 127 at main menu Eye sync problem seems to be less noticeable
5.28.09 version
- 45-50 fps ingame - complete eye sync
- menu 60 fps - complete eye sync
PS: As a test pattern Eye sync is very visible on my passive display in main menu looking at mouse cursor and at mouse cursor passing over the options.
LE: Seregin. I attached it but you should know this version has problems with some shadows and reflections.
Intel i7 8086K
Gigabyte GTX 1080Ti Aorus Extreme
DDR4 2x8gb 3200mhz Cl14
TV LG OLED65E6V
Windows 10 64bits
ASUS Prime z370-A, i5 8600K, ASUS GTX 1080 Ti Strix, 16 GB DDR4, Corsair AX860i PSU, ASUS VG278HR, 3D Vision 2, Sound Blaster Z, Astro A50 Headphones, Windows 10 64-bit Home
Thank you, Joker. Yeah. I noticed. Seems this isn't the latest version (the last before major changes was introduced by Helifax). Performance is back...
ASUS Prime z370-A, i5 8600K, ASUS GTX 1080 Ti Strix, 16 GB DDR4, Corsair AX860i PSU, ASUS VG278HR, 3D Vision 2, Sound Blaster Z, Astro A50 Headphones, Windows 10 64-bit Home
So basically using the latest version, you can't make the game work like before? That is strange... very strange...
@Joker18:
Interesting results there! Big thanks!
I am really curios as what might have introduced this tbh. As I haven't changed that much stuff... this is so weird;))
I'll investigate and make a new release soon.
1x Palit RTX 2080Ti Pro Gaming OC(watercooled and overclocked to hell)
3x 3D Vision Ready Asus VG278HE monitors (5760x1080).
Intel i9 9900K (overclocked to 5.3 and watercooled ofc).
Asus Maximus XI Hero Mobo.
16 GB Team Group T-Force Dark Pro DDR4 @ 3600.
Lots of Disks:
- Raid 0 - 256GB Sandisk Extreme SSD.
- Raid 0 - WD Black - 2TB.
- SanDisk SSD PLUS 480 GB.
- Intel 760p 256GB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD.
Creative Sound Blaster Z.
Windows 10 x64 Pro.
etc
My website with my fixes and OpenGL to 3D Vision wrapper:
http://3dsurroundgaming.com
(If you like some of the stuff that I've done and want to donate something, you can do it with PayPal at tavyhome@gmail.com)
If you can think of anything I could try on my machine - just let me know. I will and report back.
Thanks.
ASUS Prime z370-A, i5 8600K, ASUS GTX 1080 Ti Strix, 16 GB DDR4, Corsair AX860i PSU, ASUS VG278HR, 3D Vision 2, Sound Blaster Z, Astro A50 Headphones, Windows 10 64-bit Home