new to 3d gaming with a few questions and problems
So I am currently playing through the reboot of Tomb Raider in 3D and am loving it. Here's my setup: BenQ W1080ST projector some active shutter 3d glasses, DLP link or something GTX 780M - I setup stereoscopic 3d using the wizard and it works on all the images perfectly. I have to play in either 1280x720x60hz or 1920x1080x24hz. Not a big deal 720p still looks pretty good to me. I set Tomb Raider to play in 720p and the 3D option in the menu is just 'ON' or 'OFF'. My 3d projector is defaulting to "frame packing" when it detects the 3D signal and it looks great. I can hit CTRL-T to toggle the 3D on and off and see the difference right away. Now here's the problem: I tried setting up Elite Dangerous to play in 3d. However the 3D option in its menu is "anaglyph" and "side by side", not just ON or OFF. When I set it SBS I get two separate images like when viewing a 3D screenshot on the web. My projector has a "side by side" 3d option, but its greyed out. Selecting frame packing on my projector does nothing to put the two SBS images together into a 3D image. - So I went into the options for NVIDIA and noticed a "Stereoscopic 3D display type" option. There are two options here, 3D TV Play and HDMI checkerboard. By default its on 3D TV Play. - I set it to HDMI checkerboard and went back into Elite Dangerous and enabled SBS 3D in the options. Right away my projector detected it and started displaying in 3D SBS. But it looks terrible. The text on the menu was all blurry and it looked very low resolution, even though I had it at 1080p. If I hit CTRL-T to disable the NVIDIA 3D effect, the blurriness goes away and its still in 3D and looks slightly better, but not great. So its almost like the game is trying to make it SBS and then the NVIDIA driver is trying to make it 3D again on top of that. I confirmed this by taking off my 3D glasses and hitting CTRL-T a few times, with it toggled ON there were 4 shadows of an image and with it OFF there were the standard 2. So my questions are this 1. Does Tomb Raider just natively support "frame packing" and this just looks better than SBS? 2. Why is everything so bad looking when setting it to HDMI checkerboard? 3. Why doesn't Elite Dangerous 3D work when I have NVIDIA set to "3D TV Play"?
So I am currently playing through the reboot of Tomb Raider in 3D and am loving it. Here's my setup:

BenQ W1080ST projector
some active shutter 3d glasses, DLP link or something
GTX 780M
- I setup stereoscopic 3d using the wizard and it works on all the images perfectly.

I have to play in either 1280x720x60hz or 1920x1080x24hz. Not a big deal 720p still looks pretty good to me. I set Tomb Raider to play in 720p and the 3D option in the menu is just 'ON' or 'OFF'. My 3d projector is defaulting to "frame packing" when it detects the 3D signal and it looks great. I can hit CTRL-T to toggle the 3D on and off and see the difference right away.

Now here's the problem:
I tried setting up Elite Dangerous to play in 3d. However the 3D option in its menu is "anaglyph" and "side by side", not just ON or OFF. When I set it SBS I get two separate images like when viewing a 3D screenshot on the web. My projector has a "side by side" 3d option, but its greyed out. Selecting frame packing on my projector does nothing to put the two SBS images together into a 3D image.

- So I went into the options for NVIDIA and noticed a "Stereoscopic 3D display type" option. There are two options here, 3D TV Play and HDMI checkerboard. By default its on 3D TV Play.
- I set it to HDMI checkerboard and went back into Elite Dangerous and enabled SBS 3D in the options. Right away my projector detected it and started displaying in 3D SBS. But it looks terrible. The text on the menu was all blurry and it looked very low resolution, even though I had it at 1080p. If I hit CTRL-T to disable the NVIDIA 3D effect, the blurriness goes away and its still in 3D and looks slightly better, but not great. So its almost like the game is trying to make it SBS and then the NVIDIA driver is trying to make it 3D again on top of that. I confirmed this by taking off my 3D glasses and hitting CTRL-T a few times, with it toggled ON there were 4 shadows of an image and with it OFF there were the standard 2.

So my questions are this

1. Does Tomb Raider just natively support "frame packing" and this just looks better than SBS?
2. Why is everything so bad looking when setting it to HDMI checkerboard?
3. Why doesn't Elite Dangerous 3D work when I have NVIDIA set to "3D TV Play"?

#1
Posted 01/22/2015 01:49 PM   
Checkerboard only works with Mitsubishi and some of the Samsung 3D HDTVs. So don't bother with it. Elite Dangerous works with Nvidia's "Compatibility Mode", you'll have to have advanced hot-keys enabled in the control panel to disable it. (Ctrl+Alt+F11) http://3dvision-blog.com/111-changing-the-convergence-level-in-3d-vision/ There's a thread on that game https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/796498/3d-vision/anyone-play-final-version-of-elite-dangerous-/ Not all games work well with 3D, for some there are community patches. http://helixmod.blogspot.com/2013/10/game-list-automatically-updated.html For a quick look at some different games check out 4everAwake's gallery as well as others at 3D Vision live. http://photos.3dvisionlive.com/4everAwake/
Checkerboard only works with Mitsubishi and some of the Samsung 3D HDTVs. So don't bother with it.

Elite Dangerous works with Nvidia's "Compatibility Mode", you'll have to have advanced hot-keys enabled in the control panel to disable it. (Ctrl+Alt+F11)

http://3dvision-blog.com/111-changing-the-convergence-level-in-3d-vision/

There's a thread on that game
https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/796498/3d-vision/anyone-play-final-version-of-elite-dangerous-/

Not all games work well with 3D, for some there are community patches.
http://helixmod.blogspot.com/2013/10/game-list-automatically-updated.html

For a quick look at some different games check out 4everAwake's gallery as well as others at 3D Vision live.
http://photos.3dvisionlive.com/4everAwake/

#2
Posted 01/22/2015 03:35 PM   
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