Samsung PN50C490, does it work with 3D Vision?
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[quote name='M8DNanite' post='1127275' date='Oct 6 2010, 05:16 PM']There is very little to none ghosting (crosstalk) in plasmas, worst in current LCD/LEDs.
You probably mean the plasma IR (temporary image burn/retention) where you can see 'ghosts' of some static logos/menus/hud elements you watched earlier. You can 'wash' them out.
Most plasmas also buzzes. some more some less. So it might be a show stopper in some cases.

But for me the best for 3D TV this year is plasma. Too much crosstalk in this years lcd/leds. You can also tilt your head with 3D glasses and the image stays the same.[/quote]
If plasmas supported 1080p @ 60hz 3D, I'd say they are the best 3D TV to buy. But since they are too stuck at 720p just like LED/LCDs...for anything other than bluray playback... I think DLP projector or Mitsubishi DLP is still the best 3D quality and cheapest way to go for huge screen.

If one is to use the 3D TV for gaming only, they may as well get this 720p plasma described in the OP and save money. 50 inch 720p and 50 inch 1080p plasmas all do 720p only when gaming.
[quote name='M8DNanite' post='1127275' date='Oct 6 2010, 05:16 PM']There is very little to none ghosting (crosstalk) in plasmas, worst in current LCD/LEDs.

You probably mean the plasma IR (temporary image burn/retention) where you can see 'ghosts' of some static logos/menus/hud elements you watched earlier. You can 'wash' them out.

Most plasmas also buzzes. some more some less. So it might be a show stopper in some cases.



But for me the best for 3D TV this year is plasma. Too much crosstalk in this years lcd/leds. You can also tilt your head with 3D glasses and the image stays the same.

If plasmas supported 1080p @ 60hz 3D, I'd say they are the best 3D TV to buy. But since they are too stuck at 720p just like LED/LCDs...for anything other than bluray playback... I think DLP projector or Mitsubishi DLP is still the best 3D quality and cheapest way to go for huge screen.



If one is to use the 3D TV for gaming only, they may as well get this 720p plasma described in the OP and save money. 50 inch 720p and 50 inch 1080p plasmas all do 720p only when gaming.

#31
Posted 10/06/2010 09:23 PM   
[quote name='M8DNanite' post='1127275' date='Oct 6 2010, 05:16 PM']There is very little to none ghosting (crosstalk) in plasmas, worst in current LCD/LEDs.
You probably mean the plasma IR (temporary image burn/retention) where you can see 'ghosts' of some static logos/menus/hud elements you watched earlier. You can 'wash' them out.
Most plasmas also buzzes. some more some less. So it might be a show stopper in some cases.

But for me the best for 3D TV this year is plasma. Too much crosstalk in this years lcd/leds. You can also tilt your head with 3D glasses and the image stays the same.[/quote]
If plasmas supported 1080p @ 60hz 3D, I'd say they are the best 3D TV to buy. But since they are too stuck at 720p just like LED/LCDs...for anything other than bluray playback... I think DLP projector or Mitsubishi DLP is still the best 3D quality and cheapest way to go for huge screen.

If one is to use the 3D TV for gaming only, they may as well get this 720p plasma described in the OP and save money. 50 inch 720p and 50 inch 1080p plasmas all do 720p only when gaming.
[quote name='M8DNanite' post='1127275' date='Oct 6 2010, 05:16 PM']There is very little to none ghosting (crosstalk) in plasmas, worst in current LCD/LEDs.

You probably mean the plasma IR (temporary image burn/retention) where you can see 'ghosts' of some static logos/menus/hud elements you watched earlier. You can 'wash' them out.

Most plasmas also buzzes. some more some less. So it might be a show stopper in some cases.



But for me the best for 3D TV this year is plasma. Too much crosstalk in this years lcd/leds. You can also tilt your head with 3D glasses and the image stays the same.

If plasmas supported 1080p @ 60hz 3D, I'd say they are the best 3D TV to buy. But since they are too stuck at 720p just like LED/LCDs...for anything other than bluray playback... I think DLP projector or Mitsubishi DLP is still the best 3D quality and cheapest way to go for huge screen.



If one is to use the 3D TV for gaming only, they may as well get this 720p plasma described in the OP and save money. 50 inch 720p and 50 inch 1080p plasmas all do 720p only when gaming.

#32
Posted 10/06/2010 09:23 PM   
[quote name='disolitude' post='1127282' date='Oct 6 2010, 02:23 PM']If plasmas supported 1080p @ 60hz 3D, I'd say they are the best 3D TV to buy. But since they are too stuck at 720p just like LED/LCDs...for anything other than bluray playback... I think DLP projector or Mitsubishi DLP is still the best 3D quality and cheapest way to go for huge screen.

If one is to use the 3D TV for gaming only, they may as well get this 720p plasma described in the OP and save money. 50 inch 720p and 50 inch 1080p plasmas all do 720p only when gaming.[/quote]
Do you guys know if 1080p 3D vision will ever be supported for plasmas using nvidia's 3D vision solution, or is it a plasma issue? :lol:
[quote name='disolitude' post='1127282' date='Oct 6 2010, 02:23 PM']If plasmas supported 1080p @ 60hz 3D, I'd say they are the best 3D TV to buy. But since they are too stuck at 720p just like LED/LCDs...for anything other than bluray playback... I think DLP projector or Mitsubishi DLP is still the best 3D quality and cheapest way to go for huge screen.



If one is to use the 3D TV for gaming only, they may as well get this 720p plasma described in the OP and save money. 50 inch 720p and 50 inch 1080p plasmas all do 720p only when gaming.

Do you guys know if 1080p 3D vision will ever be supported for plasmas using nvidia's 3D vision solution, or is it a plasma issue? :lol:

#33
Posted 10/06/2010 10:27 PM   
[quote name='disolitude' post='1127282' date='Oct 6 2010, 02:23 PM']If plasmas supported 1080p @ 60hz 3D, I'd say they are the best 3D TV to buy. But since they are too stuck at 720p just like LED/LCDs...for anything other than bluray playback... I think DLP projector or Mitsubishi DLP is still the best 3D quality and cheapest way to go for huge screen.

If one is to use the 3D TV for gaming only, they may as well get this 720p plasma described in the OP and save money. 50 inch 720p and 50 inch 1080p plasmas all do 720p only when gaming.[/quote]
Do you guys know if 1080p 3D vision will ever be supported for plasmas using nvidia's 3D vision solution, or is it a plasma issue? :lol:
[quote name='disolitude' post='1127282' date='Oct 6 2010, 02:23 PM']If plasmas supported 1080p @ 60hz 3D, I'd say they are the best 3D TV to buy. But since they are too stuck at 720p just like LED/LCDs...for anything other than bluray playback... I think DLP projector or Mitsubishi DLP is still the best 3D quality and cheapest way to go for huge screen.



If one is to use the 3D TV for gaming only, they may as well get this 720p plasma described in the OP and save money. 50 inch 720p and 50 inch 1080p plasmas all do 720p only when gaming.

Do you guys know if 1080p 3D vision will ever be supported for plasmas using nvidia's 3D vision solution, or is it a plasma issue? :lol:

#34
Posted 10/06/2010 10:27 PM   
[quote name='Emc07' post='1127280' date='Oct 7 2010, 12:21 AM']Is there a difference in ghosting between the plasmas though?[/quote]

According to reviews Panasonic VT models are the best plasmas for 3D/crosstalk (but also the most expensive) then comes the Samsungs just very little behind ;)

[quote name='Emc07' post='1127310' date='Oct 7 2010, 01:27 AM']Do you guys know if 1080p 3D vision will ever be supported for plasmas using nvidia's 3D vision solution, or is it a plasma issue? :lol:[/quote]

Its not plasma issue its a limitation in 3D HDMI standard. Available resolutions for 3D are:
1080p 24Hz
720p 60Hz
[quote name='Emc07' post='1127280' date='Oct 7 2010, 12:21 AM']Is there a difference in ghosting between the plasmas though?



According to reviews Panasonic VT models are the best plasmas for 3D/crosstalk (but also the most expensive) then comes the Samsungs just very little behind ;)



[quote name='Emc07' post='1127310' date='Oct 7 2010, 01:27 AM']Do you guys know if 1080p 3D vision will ever be supported for plasmas using nvidia's 3D vision solution, or is it a plasma issue? :lol:



Its not plasma issue its a limitation in 3D HDMI standard. Available resolutions for 3D are:

1080p 24Hz

720p 60Hz

Samsung 50" 3DTV Plasma - PS50C7705 (Nordic European version of the North American PN50C8000 and UK PS50C7000)

#35
Posted 10/06/2010 11:16 PM   
[quote name='Emc07' post='1127280' date='Oct 7 2010, 12:21 AM']Is there a difference in ghosting between the plasmas though?[/quote]

According to reviews Panasonic VT models are the best plasmas for 3D/crosstalk (but also the most expensive) then comes the Samsungs just very little behind ;)

[quote name='Emc07' post='1127310' date='Oct 7 2010, 01:27 AM']Do you guys know if 1080p 3D vision will ever be supported for plasmas using nvidia's 3D vision solution, or is it a plasma issue? :lol:[/quote]

Its not plasma issue its a limitation in 3D HDMI standard. Available resolutions for 3D are:
1080p 24Hz
720p 60Hz
[quote name='Emc07' post='1127280' date='Oct 7 2010, 12:21 AM']Is there a difference in ghosting between the plasmas though?



According to reviews Panasonic VT models are the best plasmas for 3D/crosstalk (but also the most expensive) then comes the Samsungs just very little behind ;)



[quote name='Emc07' post='1127310' date='Oct 7 2010, 01:27 AM']Do you guys know if 1080p 3D vision will ever be supported for plasmas using nvidia's 3D vision solution, or is it a plasma issue? :lol:



Its not plasma issue its a limitation in 3D HDMI standard. Available resolutions for 3D are:

1080p 24Hz

720p 60Hz

Samsung 50" 3DTV Plasma - PS50C7705 (Nordic European version of the North American PN50C8000 and UK PS50C7000)

#36
Posted 10/06/2010 11:16 PM   
[quote name='M8DNanite' post='1127333' date='Oct 6 2010, 04:16 PM']According to reviews Panasonic VT models are the best plasmas for 3D/crosstalk (but also the most expensive) then comes the Samsungs just very little behind ;)[/quote]Sweeeeeeeet.

[quote name='M8DNanite' post='1127333' date='Oct 6 2010, 04:16 PM']Its not plasma issue its a limitation in 3D HDMI standard. Available resolutions for 3D are:
1080p 24Hz
720p 60Hz[/quote]
That's a terrible limitation. Here's hoping for HDMI 1.5!
[quote name='M8DNanite' post='1127333' date='Oct 6 2010, 04:16 PM']According to reviews Panasonic VT models are the best plasmas for 3D/crosstalk (but also the most expensive) then comes the Samsungs just very little behind ;)Sweeeeeeeet.



[quote name='M8DNanite' post='1127333' date='Oct 6 2010, 04:16 PM']Its not plasma issue its a limitation in 3D HDMI standard. Available resolutions for 3D are:

1080p 24Hz

720p 60Hz

That's a terrible limitation. Here's hoping for HDMI 1.5!

#37
Posted 10/06/2010 11:47 PM   
[quote name='M8DNanite' post='1127333' date='Oct 6 2010, 04:16 PM']According to reviews Panasonic VT models are the best plasmas for 3D/crosstalk (but also the most expensive) then comes the Samsungs just very little behind ;)[/quote]Sweeeeeeeet.

[quote name='M8DNanite' post='1127333' date='Oct 6 2010, 04:16 PM']Its not plasma issue its a limitation in 3D HDMI standard. Available resolutions for 3D are:
1080p 24Hz
720p 60Hz[/quote]
That's a terrible limitation. Here's hoping for HDMI 1.5!
[quote name='M8DNanite' post='1127333' date='Oct 6 2010, 04:16 PM']According to reviews Panasonic VT models are the best plasmas for 3D/crosstalk (but also the most expensive) then comes the Samsungs just very little behind ;)Sweeeeeeeet.



[quote name='M8DNanite' post='1127333' date='Oct 6 2010, 04:16 PM']Its not plasma issue its a limitation in 3D HDMI standard. Available resolutions for 3D are:

1080p 24Hz

720p 60Hz

That's a terrible limitation. Here's hoping for HDMI 1.5!

#38
Posted 10/06/2010 11:47 PM   
Back to the original question .. does it work with the PN50C490?
I bought one for 699.99 Canadian on boxing day .. The image quality is actually very nice...
I mean sure .. it's not 1080p .. but for me anyways .. I find the trade off to 720p not that bad at all.

Works great with the ps3 .. but I would love to get my pc working with it.
Back to the original question .. does it work with the PN50C490?

I bought one for 699.99 Canadian on boxing day .. The image quality is actually very nice...

I mean sure .. it's not 1080p .. but for me anyways .. I find the trade off to 720p not that bad at all.



Works great with the ps3 .. but I would love to get my pc working with it.

#39
Posted 01/05/2011 04:49 PM   
[quote name='CoppDog' date='05 January 2011 - 07:49 PM' timestamp='1294246192' post='1171799']
Back to the original question .. does it work with the PN50C490?
[/quote]
If it doesnt try the EDID hack:
http://blog.bagearon.com/?p=38

For gaming you need a license. There are two methods:
NVidia emitter or commercial software license available here:
http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=189749&pid=1171035&st=0&#entry1171035
[quote name='CoppDog' date='05 January 2011 - 07:49 PM' timestamp='1294246192' post='1171799']

Back to the original question .. does it work with the PN50C490?



If it doesnt try the EDID hack:

http://blog.bagearon.com/?p=38



For gaming you need a license. There are two methods:

NVidia emitter or commercial software license available here:

http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=189749&pid=1171035&st=0&#entry1171035

Samsung 50" 3DTV Plasma - PS50C7705 (Nordic European version of the North American PN50C8000 and UK PS50C7000)

#40
Posted 01/05/2011 09:30 PM   
So there is a work around to make these two work together potentially?

That's great, but are the two compatible? Does anyone know, or can anyone from NVIDIA answer please??? /w00twave.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':w00twave:' />

/thanks.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':thanks:' />
So there is a work around to make these two work together potentially?



That's great, but are the two compatible? Does anyone know, or can anyone from NVIDIA answer please??? /w00twave.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':w00twave:' />



/thanks.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':thanks:' />

#41
Posted 01/21/2011 08:35 AM   
I used the work around.. and it works perfectly for this TV.
I used the work around.. and it works perfectly for this TV.

#42
Posted 01/21/2011 01:54 PM   
[quote name='CoppDog' date='21 January 2011 - 08:54 AM' timestamp='1295618076' post='1181110']
I used the work around.. and it works perfectly for this TV.
[/quote]

Excellent, thanks for the feedback CoppDog! /thumbup.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':thumbup:' />
[quote name='CoppDog' date='21 January 2011 - 08:54 AM' timestamp='1295618076' post='1181110']

I used the work around.. and it works perfectly for this TV.





Excellent, thanks for the feedback CoppDog! /thumbup.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':thumbup:' />

#43
Posted 01/22/2011 08:08 AM   
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