So I have a Seiki 39 inch 4K TV that does 720p @ 120Hz. This is a TRUE refresh rate...no interpolation or anything. UFO test and gaming certifiable.
Based on this post [url=http://www.overclock.net/t/1442986/playing-with-my-seiki-se39uy04-got-it-to-do-1440p-at-60hz-playing-with-other-custom-stuff/540_30#post_23306737]HERE[/url] it's capable of working with 3D Vision with a EDID swap with the Acer H5360 projector.
Results? Well, it works. Problem is that cross talk is so bad it's about useless.
Now what I mean about it working is that Nvidia recognizes that it's 3D Vision ready and all that. Only inherent issue is that the L/R are swapped but that's OK because 3D Vision Player allows that to be switched.
So only real issue is the cross talk. Which, honestly, is pretty bad. Like I said, unusable bad.
Any one know what the issue could be? Any way to fix it at all?
So I have a Seiki 39 inch 4K TV that does 720p @ 120Hz. This is a TRUE refresh rate...no interpolation or anything. UFO test and gaming certifiable.
Based on this post HERE it's capable of working with 3D Vision with a EDID swap with the Acer H5360 projector.
Results? Well, it works. Problem is that cross talk is so bad it's about useless.
Now what I mean about it working is that Nvidia recognizes that it's 3D Vision ready and all that. Only inherent issue is that the L/R are swapped but that's OK because 3D Vision Player allows that to be switched.
So only real issue is the cross talk. Which, honestly, is pretty bad. Like I said, unusable bad.
Any one know what the issue could be? Any way to fix it at all?
Quite a few HDTV's have horrible cross-talk in 3D mode (it's actually more common for HDTV 3D to stink). Sony's 802 series was universally lauded last year for its fantastic cross-talk free passive 3D, and this years models not only switched to active 3D, but it's completely horrible and unusable. Probably some combination of processing, slow pixel switching times, etc. Cruddy 3D on HDTV's is a major reason it bombed and was dumped so quickly. Lousy TVs and lousy content. Makes for a lousy product. Doubt there's much you can do about it (unless there's some magical firmware fix that's floating around).
Quite a few HDTV's have horrible cross-talk in 3D mode (it's actually more common for HDTV 3D to stink). Sony's 802 series was universally lauded last year for its fantastic cross-talk free passive 3D, and this years models not only switched to active 3D, but it's completely horrible and unusable. Probably some combination of processing, slow pixel switching times, etc. Cruddy 3D on HDTV's is a major reason it bombed and was dumped so quickly. Lousy TVs and lousy content. Makes for a lousy product. Doubt there's much you can do about it (unless there's some magical firmware fix that's floating around).
Could sure use some [url=http://www.ti.com/lsds/ti/dlp-technology/products/dlp-cinema/dlp-cinema-overview.page]4K DLP[/url] HDTVs right about now ... :)
[quote="Paul33993"]Quite a few HDTV's have horrible cross-talk in 3D mode (it's actually more common for HDTV 3D to stink). Sony's 802 series was universally lauded last year for its fantastic cross-talk free passive 3D, and this years models not only switched to active 3D, but it's completely horrible and unusable. Probably some combination of processing, slow pixel switching times, etc. Cruddy 3D on HDTV's is a major reason it bombed and was dumped so quickly. Lousy TVs and lousy content. Makes for a lousy product. Doubt there's much you can do about it (unless there's some magical firmware fix that's floating around).[/quote]
Well damn...I was hoping that wasn't the case. Some other guy that has the same setup said there was "some" crosstalk. Didn't say anything about it being at an unusable level (which it is). Such a shame too as I spend a good penny and time/effort to get this going only to notice that it...yeah...sucks.
Oh well...maybe I can trade my 4K TV for a DLP. Thinking a down step in resolution might be worth the 3D as I hardly use 4K now as it is (the occational game here and there).
[quote="TsaebehT"]Could sure use some [url=http://www.ti.com/lsds/ti/dlp-technology/products/dlp-cinema/dlp-cinema-overview.page]4K DLP[/url] HDTVs right about now ... :)[/quote]
Don't tease me like that. Would be totally epic.
Paul33993 said:Quite a few HDTV's have horrible cross-talk in 3D mode (it's actually more common for HDTV 3D to stink). Sony's 802 series was universally lauded last year for its fantastic cross-talk free passive 3D, and this years models not only switched to active 3D, but it's completely horrible and unusable. Probably some combination of processing, slow pixel switching times, etc. Cruddy 3D on HDTV's is a major reason it bombed and was dumped so quickly. Lousy TVs and lousy content. Makes for a lousy product. Doubt there's much you can do about it (unless there's some magical firmware fix that's floating around).
Well damn...I was hoping that wasn't the case. Some other guy that has the same setup said there was "some" crosstalk. Didn't say anything about it being at an unusable level (which it is). Such a shame too as I spend a good penny and time/effort to get this going only to notice that it...yeah...sucks.
Oh well...maybe I can trade my 4K TV for a DLP. Thinking a down step in resolution might be worth the 3D as I hardly use 4K now as it is (the occational game here and there).
TsaebehT said:Could sure use some 4K DLP HDTVs right about now ... :)
Can anyone tell me why when I'm doing the "Sterescopic 3D Test" in the Control Panel why crosstalk seems to be all but eliminated but appears everywhere else (movies and pictures so far)?
Maybe it's just how Nvidia has it set up or something (colors perhaps?) but the test runs and looks fine. No issues.
Can anyone tell me why when I'm doing the "Sterescopic 3D Test" in the Control Panel why crosstalk seems to be all but eliminated but appears everywhere else (movies and pictures so far)?
Maybe it's just how Nvidia has it set up or something (colors perhaps?) but the test runs and looks fine. No issues.
[quote="AndroidVageta"]Can anyone tell me why when I'm doing the "Sterescopic 3D Test" in the Control Panel why crosstalk seems to be all but eliminated but appears everywhere else (movies and pictures so far)?
Maybe it's just how Nvidia has it set up or something (colors perhaps?) but the test runs and looks fine. No issues. [/quote]
If works on the demo, that rules out a hardware problem with the TV itself having poor crosstalk.
That suggests that there is something else happening that damages the pipeline in terms of synchronization. The demo might disable processing effects, or force a different TV mode or something.
Having the glasses flipped is bad, and suggestive.
Anything in between PC and TV? Like a receiver or amp? What connection do you use?
AndroidVageta said:Can anyone tell me why when I'm doing the "Sterescopic 3D Test" in the Control Panel why crosstalk seems to be all but eliminated but appears everywhere else (movies and pictures so far)?
Maybe it's just how Nvidia has it set up or something (colors perhaps?) but the test runs and looks fine. No issues.
If works on the demo, that rules out a hardware problem with the TV itself having poor crosstalk.
That suggests that there is something else happening that damages the pipeline in terms of synchronization. The demo might disable processing effects, or force a different TV mode or something.
Having the glasses flipped is bad, and suggestive.
Anything in between PC and TV? Like a receiver or amp? What connection do you use?
Acer H5360 (1280x720@120Hz) - ASUS VG248QE with GSync mod - 3D Vision 1&2 - Driver 372.54
GTX 970 - i5-4670K@4.2GHz - 12GB RAM - Win7x64+evilKB2670838 - 4 Disk X25 RAID
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What glasses are you using for the 3D? Presumably the ones for the TV, yes?
If so, you should try 3D TV Play instead of the EDID override.
3D TV Play is designed specifically for HDMI TVs, and should work properly here.
I don't think any Seiki UHD TVs support 3D.
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=8430969&SRCCODE=WEBGOOKWL&gclid=CNLmm9v52cMCFRAjgQodl3EA0g
According to specs this is low UHD entry model. Only the higher end UHD sets support 3D.
The best bet would be call the Seiki customer service.
[quote="bo3b"]What glasses are you using for the 3D? Presumably the ones for the TV, yes?
If so, you should try 3D TV Play instead of the EDID override.
3D TV Play is designed specifically for HDMI TVs, and should work properly here. [/quote]
No, using the 3D Vision glasses with the IR emitter. Either way, I think I'm just going to ditch it and go DLP. LCD's in general seem to have an issue with 3D so even if mine is a particularly bad example it's certainly not alone.
[quote="Pirateguybrush"]He got it working in 3D (info in his previous thread), but it's kind of a hack. So imperfect results are to be expected.[/quote]
You are correct. If it wasn't for the crosstalk which, as I said above, seems pretty common the 3D and support itself works perfectly. Nvidia recognizes it as a 3D Ready display properly, the glasses and all that work perfectly...it's just the LCD's issue with crosstalk that's a problem. The ONLY thing holding this setup back from greatness.
Also, as I previously stated about the 3D test working fine, after more examination I think the colors/contrast makes it's less apparent but I do think it's still there. So either way it's a bust.
bo3b said:What glasses are you using for the 3D? Presumably the ones for the TV, yes?
If so, you should try 3D TV Play instead of the EDID override.
3D TV Play is designed specifically for HDMI TVs, and should work properly here.
No, using the 3D Vision glasses with the IR emitter. Either way, I think I'm just going to ditch it and go DLP. LCD's in general seem to have an issue with 3D so even if mine is a particularly bad example it's certainly not alone.
Pirateguybrush said:He got it working in 3D (info in his previous thread), but it's kind of a hack. So imperfect results are to be expected.
You are correct. If it wasn't for the crosstalk which, as I said above, seems pretty common the 3D and support itself works perfectly. Nvidia recognizes it as a 3D Ready display properly, the glasses and all that work perfectly...it's just the LCD's issue with crosstalk that's a problem. The ONLY thing holding this setup back from greatness.
Also, as I previously stated about the 3D test working fine, after more examination I think the colors/contrast makes it's less apparent but I do think it's still there. So either way it's a bust.
Based on this post HERE it's capable of working with 3D Vision with a EDID swap with the Acer H5360 projector.
Results? Well, it works. Problem is that cross talk is so bad it's about useless.
Now what I mean about it working is that Nvidia recognizes that it's 3D Vision ready and all that. Only inherent issue is that the L/R are swapped but that's OK because 3D Vision Player allows that to be switched.
So only real issue is the cross talk. Which, honestly, is pretty bad. Like I said, unusable bad.
Any one know what the issue could be? Any way to fix it at all?
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Well damn...I was hoping that wasn't the case. Some other guy that has the same setup said there was "some" crosstalk. Didn't say anything about it being at an unusable level (which it is). Such a shame too as I spend a good penny and time/effort to get this going only to notice that it...yeah...sucks.
Oh well...maybe I can trade my 4K TV for a DLP. Thinking a down step in resolution might be worth the 3D as I hardly use 4K now as it is (the occational game here and there).
Don't tease me like that. Would be totally epic.
Maybe it's just how Nvidia has it set up or something (colors perhaps?) but the test runs and looks fine. No issues.
If works on the demo, that rules out a hardware problem with the TV itself having poor crosstalk.
That suggests that there is something else happening that damages the pipeline in terms of synchronization. The demo might disable processing effects, or force a different TV mode or something.
Having the glasses flipped is bad, and suggestive.
Anything in between PC and TV? Like a receiver or amp? What connection do you use?
Acer H5360 (1280x720@120Hz) - ASUS VG248QE with GSync mod - 3D Vision 1&2 - Driver 372.54
GTX 970 - i5-4670K@4.2GHz - 12GB RAM - Win7x64+evilKB2670838 - 4 Disk X25 RAID
SAGER NP9870-S - GTX 980 - i7-6700K - Win10 Pro 1607
Latest 3Dmigoto Release
Bo3b's School for ShaderHackers
So yeah...I don't know.
If so, you should try 3D TV Play instead of the EDID override.
3D TV Play is designed specifically for HDMI TVs, and should work properly here.
Acer H5360 (1280x720@120Hz) - ASUS VG248QE with GSync mod - 3D Vision 1&2 - Driver 372.54
GTX 970 - i5-4670K@4.2GHz - 12GB RAM - Win7x64+evilKB2670838 - 4 Disk X25 RAID
SAGER NP9870-S - GTX 980 - i7-6700K - Win10 Pro 1607
Latest 3Dmigoto Release
Bo3b's School for ShaderHackers
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=8430969&SRCCODE=WEBGOOKWL&gclid=CNLmm9v52cMCFRAjgQodl3EA0g
According to specs this is low UHD entry model. Only the higher end UHD sets support 3D.
The best bet would be call the Seiki customer service.
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No, using the 3D Vision glasses with the IR emitter. Either way, I think I'm just going to ditch it and go DLP. LCD's in general seem to have an issue with 3D so even if mine is a particularly bad example it's certainly not alone.
You are correct. If it wasn't for the crosstalk which, as I said above, seems pretty common the 3D and support itself works perfectly. Nvidia recognizes it as a 3D Ready display properly, the glasses and all that work perfectly...it's just the LCD's issue with crosstalk that's a problem. The ONLY thing holding this setup back from greatness.
Also, as I previously stated about the 3D test working fine, after more examination I think the colors/contrast makes it's less apparent but I do think it's still there. So either way it's a bust.