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Having bought a new monitor and glasses, I have to say I am more than a little disappointed. I am trying to see what advances have been made since Wicked3D or Eye-Scream etc except for the fact that other companies have now brought out 120Hz LED displays.

Yes, the glasses are smarter but at over £100 each they should be! Do they really expect people to spend £200, £300 or £400 to watch a video or 3d photo at the same time. My four pairs of shutter glasses from three previous reincarnations of 3d don't work unsurprisingly - but easily could have. 3-d photos are "coming soon". 3d films are no better. There is no bundled software to create 3d photos or videos. The website asks for your 3d videos! No clue to how to create them or anything in fact.

I am sorry to say its the start of another 3d gravy train, poorly implemented, to take advantage of current interest in 3d but at a price which will ensure it can't be used for anything but the lone PC player. Its a lot of money for technology from 10 years ago.

NVidia have been very good at supporting 3d drivers over the last few years but given how much time they have had to think about it, couldn't they have done so much more for so much less?
Having bought a new monitor and glasses, I have to say I am more than a little disappointed. I am trying to see what advances have been made since Wicked3D or Eye-Scream etc except for the fact that other companies have now brought out 120Hz LED displays.



Yes, the glasses are smarter but at over £100 each they should be! Do they really expect people to spend £200, £300 or £400 to watch a video or 3d photo at the same time. My four pairs of shutter glasses from three previous reincarnations of 3d don't work unsurprisingly - but easily could have. 3-d photos are "coming soon". 3d films are no better. There is no bundled software to create 3d photos or videos. The website asks for your 3d videos! No clue to how to create them or anything in fact.



I am sorry to say its the start of another 3d gravy train, poorly implemented, to take advantage of current interest in 3d but at a price which will ensure it can't be used for anything but the lone PC player. Its a lot of money for technology from 10 years ago.



NVidia have been very good at supporting 3d drivers over the last few years but given how much time they have had to think about it, couldn't they have done so much more for so much less?

#1
Posted 07/30/2009 11:52 AM   
so, you think Nvidia should create the movie studio and start to shoot the contect for the 3d vision?
I think Nvidia did a great job bringing together Display producers and game developers. It is only the beginning and soon the game support will be better and i hope 3d movies will be available on Blu-rays, but even now i dont have a single regret about spending [b]1000$[/b] on display+glasses (now the price is down to 800$, in Russia).


If you bought it for photos and movies..well..you did not do your research enough, otherwise you would know what to expect.

ps. There are any places where you could test the 3d Vision before the purchase.
so, you think Nvidia should create the movie studio and start to shoot the contect for the 3d vision?

I think Nvidia did a great job bringing together Display producers and game developers. It is only the beginning and soon the game support will be better and i hope 3d movies will be available on Blu-rays, but even now i dont have a single regret about spending 1000$ on display+glasses (now the price is down to 800$, in Russia).





If you bought it for photos and movies..well..you did not do your research enough, otherwise you would know what to expect.



ps. There are any places where you could test the 3d Vision before the purchase.

#2
Posted 07/30/2009 12:41 PM   
What do people NOT get about a niche product? NOBODY does 3d these days. I dont know a soul that does this stuff. If you know a bunch of people that do and are all happy with their cheap 3d setup that works perfectly, BUY THAT. If you do it now, you are an early adopter. The reason it isnt cheap, the reason it isnt bug free, the reason you dont get all the support in the world is because ITS A NICHE PRODUCT. I doubt even 1% of the population is doing this. If it wasnt you would have other options. Nvidia isnt going to change the world so you can have 3d just the way you want it. Its a miracle that you can game in 3d anyways. Nvidia didnt make these games. Its just plain amazing that they work in 3d at all. They arent going to make drivers and video cards so that 3d works before the game works. 3d is the last thing they are going to sort out.

How can you complain about it not being cheap when there are almost no other 3d systems at all out there? I mean come on people. You do not need to purchase this setup. From day 1 people have been complaining about some incompatible stuff, so it cannot be a shock to see that your little game doesnt work. If you are that critical about everything working perfectly, dont buy something like this. It should be very clear by now given the amount of previous whiners out there.

I would imagine it will almost never be all sorted out because the game makers arent developing for 3d, it just happens that the gaming engines render in a 3d space. That doesnt mean they have to adhere to this. Some games you can see where they cheated and stuck something in the game in the wrong 3d space. Thats the game designer, not a driver issue. Those issues will never be fixable. Some games will never work, ever. Its not like a driver is magic, like it can do anything.

This 3d setup works a hell out of a lot better than the old ones I have had and I dont think a $400 display is crazy. Go price a CRT that can do this. The mitsubishi diamond CRT I had was not cheap. That display was one of the best 3d displays and it is worse than this tiny little super light flatpanel. The software is also way less buggy than anything I have used before too. Its just plain better than anything else out there, but it is a 3d niche product that isnt used widely enough to have all the bugs worked out. I dont have any real issues with ghosting or games at all, so I figure that is probably the operating system setup or some weird hardware issues. Those problems are just industry problems.
What do people NOT get about a niche product? NOBODY does 3d these days. I dont know a soul that does this stuff. If you know a bunch of people that do and are all happy with their cheap 3d setup that works perfectly, BUY THAT. If you do it now, you are an early adopter. The reason it isnt cheap, the reason it isnt bug free, the reason you dont get all the support in the world is because ITS A NICHE PRODUCT. I doubt even 1% of the population is doing this. If it wasnt you would have other options. Nvidia isnt going to change the world so you can have 3d just the way you want it. Its a miracle that you can game in 3d anyways. Nvidia didnt make these games. Its just plain amazing that they work in 3d at all. They arent going to make drivers and video cards so that 3d works before the game works. 3d is the last thing they are going to sort out.



How can you complain about it not being cheap when there are almost no other 3d systems at all out there? I mean come on people. You do not need to purchase this setup. From day 1 people have been complaining about some incompatible stuff, so it cannot be a shock to see that your little game doesnt work. If you are that critical about everything working perfectly, dont buy something like this. It should be very clear by now given the amount of previous whiners out there.



I would imagine it will almost never be all sorted out because the game makers arent developing for 3d, it just happens that the gaming engines render in a 3d space. That doesnt mean they have to adhere to this. Some games you can see where they cheated and stuck something in the game in the wrong 3d space. Thats the game designer, not a driver issue. Those issues will never be fixable. Some games will never work, ever. Its not like a driver is magic, like it can do anything.



This 3d setup works a hell out of a lot better than the old ones I have had and I dont think a $400 display is crazy. Go price a CRT that can do this. The mitsubishi diamond CRT I had was not cheap. That display was one of the best 3d displays and it is worse than this tiny little super light flatpanel. The software is also way less buggy than anything I have used before too. Its just plain better than anything else out there, but it is a 3d niche product that isnt used widely enough to have all the bugs worked out. I dont have any real issues with ghosting or games at all, so I figure that is probably the operating system setup or some weird hardware issues. Those problems are just industry problems.

#3
Posted 07/30/2009 01:48 PM   
Actually I think this may be the beginning of the 3d revolution.

Cinemanow is going to start releasing stereoscopic movies on there site to rent or buy.

There have been about 10 new 3d movies made in the last year, with many more to come. Even disney is rereleasing their classics in digital 3-d, which wouldn't be hard to convert to stereoscopic.
More games are being developed with 3d in mind.

Sure it is currently a niche product, but soon it will become a household name. I know a few people who have tried mine and have now bought them. Remember even tv started as a niche product for only the rich, now nearly every home has one. 3-D is finally at a stage where you can watch the movies and play the games without the blinding headaches and eyestrain. It only gets better from here :)An avalanche starts with a single pebble.
Actually I think this may be the beginning of the 3d revolution.



Cinemanow is going to start releasing stereoscopic movies on there site to rent or buy.



There have been about 10 new 3d movies made in the last year, with many more to come. Even disney is rereleasing their classics in digital 3-d, which wouldn't be hard to convert to stereoscopic.

More games are being developed with 3d in mind.



Sure it is currently a niche product, but soon it will become a household name. I know a few people who have tried mine and have now bought them. Remember even tv started as a niche product for only the rich, now nearly every home has one. 3-D is finally at a stage where you can watch the movies and play the games without the blinding headaches and eyestrain. It only gets better from here :)An avalanche starts with a single pebble.

#4
Posted 07/30/2009 03:12 PM   
3D photos and 3D videos are easy to make with StereoPhoto Maker and StereoMovie Maker (both free): [url="http://stereo.jpn.org/eng/"]http://stereo.jpn.org/eng/[/url]
You also need 2 cameras: [img]http://ww.3d.wep.dk/images/DSC001191.JPG[/img]
3D photos and 3D videos are easy to make with StereoPhoto Maker and StereoMovie Maker (both free): http://stereo.jpn.org/eng/

You also need 2 cameras: Image

#5
Posted 07/30/2009 03:27 PM   
[quote name='MarkRy' post='571892' date='Jul 30 2009, 05:52 AM']Having bought a new monitor and glasses, I have to say I am more than a little disappointed. I am trying to see what advances have been made since Wicked3D or Eye-Scream etc except for the fact that other companies have now brought out 120Hz LED displays.

Yes, the glasses are smarter but at over £100 each they should be! Do they really expect people to spend £200, £300 or £400 to watch a video or 3d photo at the same time. My four pairs of shutter glasses from three previous reincarnations of 3d don't work unsurprisingly - but easily could have. 3-d photos are "coming soon". 3d films are no better. There is no bundled software to create 3d photos or videos. The website asks for your 3d videos! No clue to how to create them or anything in fact.

I am sorry to say its the start of another 3d gravy train, poorly implemented, to take advantage of current interest in 3d but at a price which will ensure it can't be used for anything but the lone PC player. Its a lot of money for technology from 10 years ago.

NVidia have been very good at supporting 3d drivers over the last few years but given how much time they have had to think about it, couldn't they have done so much more for so much less?[/quote]


Gaming in 3d is where it is at.
[quote name='MarkRy' post='571892' date='Jul 30 2009, 05:52 AM']Having bought a new monitor and glasses, I have to say I am more than a little disappointed. I am trying to see what advances have been made since Wicked3D or Eye-Scream etc except for the fact that other companies have now brought out 120Hz LED displays.



Yes, the glasses are smarter but at over £100 each they should be! Do they really expect people to spend £200, £300 or £400 to watch a video or 3d photo at the same time. My four pairs of shutter glasses from three previous reincarnations of 3d don't work unsurprisingly - but easily could have. 3-d photos are "coming soon". 3d films are no better. There is no bundled software to create 3d photos or videos. The website asks for your 3d videos! No clue to how to create them or anything in fact.



I am sorry to say its the start of another 3d gravy train, poorly implemented, to take advantage of current interest in 3d but at a price which will ensure it can't be used for anything but the lone PC player. Its a lot of money for technology from 10 years ago.



NVidia have been very good at supporting 3d drivers over the last few years but given how much time they have had to think about it, couldn't they have done so much more for so much less?





Gaming in 3d is where it is at.

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#6
Posted 07/30/2009 03:44 PM   
I believe that we're in a "final" revolution regarding 3d at this time. The ball is just starting to roll and both gaming in 3d as well as more media coming in 3d helps. Expect it to take some time though. Most people still haven't heard or experienced gaming in 3d yet. Sad thing is that many have negative opinions about 3d without even trying it.. This goes over my mind though... :blink:

For 3d media like pictures and even some movies i can recommend [url="http://www.flickr.com/search/?w=all&q=stereoscopic&m=tags"][b]flickr.com[/b][/url]. [url="http://www.flickr.com/search/?w=all&q=crossview&m=tags"][b]Another search query[/b][/url].
I believe that we're in a "final" revolution regarding 3d at this time. The ball is just starting to roll and both gaming in 3d as well as more media coming in 3d helps. Expect it to take some time though. Most people still haven't heard or experienced gaming in 3d yet. Sad thing is that many have negative opinions about 3d without even trying it.. This goes over my mind though... :blink:



For 3d media like pictures and even some movies i can recommend flickr.com. Another search query.

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#7
Posted 07/30/2009 04:24 PM   
[quote name='Likay' post='572042' date='Jul 30 2009, 12:24 PM']I believe that we're in a "final" revolution regarding 3d at this time. The ball is just starting to roll and both gaming in 3d as well as more media coming in 3d helps. Expect it to take some time though.[/quote]

I agree with this. Yes, we're still in the very early stages of mainstream adoption, but mainstream adoption of 3d is coming. This is not a "fad" like anaglyph movies were in the 70's and again in the 80's, this is the real deal. TV makers and major electronics manufacturers are pioneering brand new 3d technology that they will mass-market within the next few years, and nvidia has gone all out in trying to break 3d into the gaming market.

I've said it before, I'll say it again: Stereoscopic 3d is coming, [b]it's inevitable[/b] just like HD was inevitable 10 years ago. Think about it -- in 1999 almost nobody had a HiDef Television much less a flat-panel Plasma or LCD. Now every Tom, Dick, & Harry has a 40" HD LCD in every room of their house, practically every channel broadcasts in HD, & Blu-Ray has replaced DVD as the gold standard with content we couldn't have dreamed of in the 90's. 10 years from now we'll all be gaming and watching TV & movies in stereoscopic 3d in every household. We're just the first wave. :)
[quote name='Likay' post='572042' date='Jul 30 2009, 12:24 PM']I believe that we're in a "final" revolution regarding 3d at this time. The ball is just starting to roll and both gaming in 3d as well as more media coming in 3d helps. Expect it to take some time though.



I agree with this. Yes, we're still in the very early stages of mainstream adoption, but mainstream adoption of 3d is coming. This is not a "fad" like anaglyph movies were in the 70's and again in the 80's, this is the real deal. TV makers and major electronics manufacturers are pioneering brand new 3d technology that they will mass-market within the next few years, and nvidia has gone all out in trying to break 3d into the gaming market.



I've said it before, I'll say it again: Stereoscopic 3d is coming, it's inevitable just like HD was inevitable 10 years ago. Think about it -- in 1999 almost nobody had a HiDef Television much less a flat-panel Plasma or LCD. Now every Tom, Dick, & Harry has a 40" HD LCD in every room of their house, practically every channel broadcasts in HD, & Blu-Ray has replaced DVD as the gold standard with content we couldn't have dreamed of in the 90's. 10 years from now we'll all be gaming and watching TV & movies in stereoscopic 3d in every household. We're just the first wave. :)

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#8
Posted 07/30/2009 05:07 PM   
Yeah, you honestly have no valid points MarkRy, I mean just because
you feel 3d isn't at where it should be doesn't mean that this implementation is a failure.

Patience. In a year or two EVERYTHING will be 3d. So suck it.
Yeah, you honestly have no valid points MarkRy, I mean just because

you feel 3d isn't at where it should be doesn't mean that this implementation is a failure.



Patience. In a year or two EVERYTHING will be 3d. So suck it.

#9
Posted 07/30/2009 05:07 PM   
I was trying to explain this to the mrs last night and then came on the tv a news report about how 3d movies are coming and how some pixar movie (can't remember which one) had grossed more in 3d than in 2d at the cinema. James Cameron came on saying how it was the next logical step and how they are having to learn how to make the most of this new technology. Lots of shots of expensive looking 3d twin RED camera setups etc, and this was on mainstream BBC news!

The way i see it, we havn't quite reached the betamax vs vhs point yet with 3d. A standard needs to be set, it needs to be fool proof and cheap. I think we can all feel proud to be at the forefront of this sort of tech.

Today I did some gaming at a friend's place on his 30" display. It felt like i was playing with only one eye open with no 3d.
Like when you go from HD broadcast to an SD one but ten times worse.
I was trying to explain this to the mrs last night and then came on the tv a news report about how 3d movies are coming and how some pixar movie (can't remember which one) had grossed more in 3d than in 2d at the cinema. James Cameron came on saying how it was the next logical step and how they are having to learn how to make the most of this new technology. Lots of shots of expensive looking 3d twin RED camera setups etc, and this was on mainstream BBC news!



The way i see it, we havn't quite reached the betamax vs vhs point yet with 3d. A standard needs to be set, it needs to be fool proof and cheap. I think we can all feel proud to be at the forefront of this sort of tech.



Today I did some gaming at a friend's place on his 30" display. It felt like i was playing with only one eye open with no 3d.

Like when you go from HD broadcast to an SD one but ten times worse.

#10
Posted 07/30/2009 07:10 PM   
I'm just going to leave my off-topic remark that I can't freakin' wait to see Tron Legacy in 3D. :D
I'm just going to leave my off-topic remark that I can't freakin' wait to see Tron Legacy in 3D. :D

#11
Posted 07/30/2009 09:11 PM   
I imagine this stuff might be a waste of money for anyone not planning to game with it, at least for the time being.
I imagine this stuff might be a waste of money for anyone not planning to game with it, at least for the time being.

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#12
Posted 07/30/2009 09:46 PM   
Yes, I agree...at least until the display and TV makers don't change their minds.
We can see announcements of new LCD TVs from every major brand on weekly if not daily basis to be released later this year (even Smasung with their new 8500 series, who actually [i]do[/i] produce a 120Hz monitor)... They all boast features like pulsed LED backlight and 240 (!!) Hz processing on the panel domain but do you reckon a native 120Hz+ input mode or "3D ready" logo? No way!

I can see the reason on computer monitors where no panelwafers are (yet) on production that allow for higher refresh rates (still 75Hz would be fine for getting started by buying 3Dvision, hooked up and ready to move to a 120Hz display at a later point), but why not on displays with panels that were actually built around 120 and above rates. Would be so easy and put some [i]incredible[/i] spin to the whole story...

Maybe nvidia ashould try to stretch their business relationship muscles a little more, but at the moment it rather seems they tried to resurrect the old technology as was and play wait-and-see. I agree with the thread satrter here - the only "new" achievement is that some, 2 to be exact, displays are now compatible with the core driver technology more than a decade old.

Don't get me wrong - there is nothing wrong or bad about shutters since they always have been fine for me. I just have been waiting ever since moving to TFTs something would bring stereoscopy back and it's just a shame to see nvidia doesn't do all in their might do open up the platform from their end.

I talk about the limitations that can get rid of an arbitrary feel to it, since options available in the previous driver core got just greyed out.
I talk about customizable color tables (including Color Code (tm) ) for anaglyphs (the glasses [i]are[/i] expensive enough to include the license fee)
I talk about generic shutter functionality independent from output (VGA/DVI/HDMI) and display refresh rate from 240 down to 60Hz
I talk about a compatibility mode with old shutter glasses
I talk about XP compatibilty
I talk about DirectX and Open GL support

Getting rid of these 5 hindrances would immediately boost sales, popularity and give stereoscopy a massive push the industry certainly would take on.

Until then we are caught in a vicious circle of the old egg vs. hen problem and it may well be that we see another hibernation of 3D.

So I am left to wonder the evil plan behind holding these freely availble features back - nv has all the core IP, most (TV) displays could support native 120Hz support - Probably it's just to bring me eternal pain (plus a couple of others) because I deserve it ;-)


P.S: Somebody, anybody, please, take a 120 Hz 32'' Full HD panel, a dual link input stage with 1920x1200/120 Hz and make a monitor - looking at list prices of comparable TVs it can't be more than 600,- USD retail.
Yes, I agree...at least until the display and TV makers don't change their minds.

We can see announcements of new LCD TVs from every major brand on weekly if not daily basis to be released later this year (even Smasung with their new 8500 series, who actually do produce a 120Hz monitor)... They all boast features like pulsed LED backlight and 240 (!!) Hz processing on the panel domain but do you reckon a native 120Hz+ input mode or "3D ready" logo? No way!



I can see the reason on computer monitors where no panelwafers are (yet) on production that allow for higher refresh rates (still 75Hz would be fine for getting started by buying 3Dvision, hooked up and ready to move to a 120Hz display at a later point), but why not on displays with panels that were actually built around 120 and above rates. Would be so easy and put some incredible spin to the whole story...



Maybe nvidia ashould try to stretch their business relationship muscles a little more, but at the moment it rather seems they tried to resurrect the old technology as was and play wait-and-see. I agree with the thread satrter here - the only "new" achievement is that some, 2 to be exact, displays are now compatible with the core driver technology more than a decade old.



Don't get me wrong - there is nothing wrong or bad about shutters since they always have been fine for me. I just have been waiting ever since moving to TFTs something would bring stereoscopy back and it's just a shame to see nvidia doesn't do all in their might do open up the platform from their end.



I talk about the limitations that can get rid of an arbitrary feel to it, since options available in the previous driver core got just greyed out.

I talk about customizable color tables (including Color Code (tm) ) for anaglyphs (the glasses are expensive enough to include the license fee)

I talk about generic shutter functionality independent from output (VGA/DVI/HDMI) and display refresh rate from 240 down to 60Hz

I talk about a compatibility mode with old shutter glasses

I talk about XP compatibilty

I talk about DirectX and Open GL support



Getting rid of these 5 hindrances would immediately boost sales, popularity and give stereoscopy a massive push the industry certainly would take on.



Until then we are caught in a vicious circle of the old egg vs. hen problem and it may well be that we see another hibernation of 3D.



So I am left to wonder the evil plan behind holding these freely availble features back - nv has all the core IP, most (TV) displays could support native 120Hz support - Probably it's just to bring me eternal pain (plus a couple of others) because I deserve it ;-)





P.S: Somebody, anybody, please, take a 120 Hz 32'' Full HD panel, a dual link input stage with 1920x1200/120 Hz and make a monitor - looking at list prices of comparable TVs it can't be more than 600,- USD retail.

#13
Posted 07/31/2009 11:05 AM   
Thanks for all your replies.

I accept that 3d vision is great fun for the lone gamer. However what is new is the 120hz LED display not the 3d vision system. Given the 3d vision system limitations (nicheness), it is too expensive except possibly for the lone gamer. I understood that the product was rushed out as soon as Nvidia heard there was a 120hz LED display coming out and 3d gaming was possible again - they did not bring the manufacturers together as suggested. In fact that is my main critisism - there is nothing new here from NVidia. If I get my old CRT monitor out and my eyescream or wicked 3d glasses then it is exactly the same. I appreciate it is thanks to the Nvidia drivers but they have been doing the 3d drivers for years now and they were most likely devloped by all the companies that came before.

What Nvidia have done is re-release the old 3d technology with smarter glasses at what I think is a silly price. I wanted to play games in 3d with a mate but that is no go with one set of glasses. We ended up with my anaglyph glasses which doesnt need a new monitor either. I could obviously buy a second pair of glasses, three more pairs if I want the family to watch, but since I can't see how this system can become more than niche, I cannot justify the huge expense.

The excitement in 3d at the moment is not being generated by games but by movies. Are you really going to get your family gathered round a 22" display attached to your PC wearing 3d glasses at £100 each? Most people dont watch movies on their PC anyway. The future for NVidia 3d vision is not in movies as the lacklustre launch shows.

Don't get me wrong, sole 3d PC gamers will have a blast. I have played a number of recent games in 3d. It does still rely on the game makers so that there are not too many 3d gliches to distract from the game but generally they play well. I still get that WOW feeling when I see it but at then end of the day I think it needs to deliver more to be successful. If it is not successful it is not going to be good value for money for early adopters and NVidia seem to be going down exactly the same path as previous 3d glasses manufacturers.

I think the system is overpriced simply because it is so niche and will remain so niche. Can 3d movies catch on with glasses at that price? No. Unfortunately when 3d cinema does finally come to home users, it will be yet another company selling you the 3d system but hopefully you won't need £100 per head to kit out family and friends.

Let us hope that 3d standards are developed so that we dont all end up with drawers full of 3d glasses. I have 5 pairs so far.

Thanks for the link to the 3d film software. I will have a look.
Thanks for all your replies.



I accept that 3d vision is great fun for the lone gamer. However what is new is the 120hz LED display not the 3d vision system. Given the 3d vision system limitations (nicheness), it is too expensive except possibly for the lone gamer. I understood that the product was rushed out as soon as Nvidia heard there was a 120hz LED display coming out and 3d gaming was possible again - they did not bring the manufacturers together as suggested. In fact that is my main critisism - there is nothing new here from NVidia. If I get my old CRT monitor out and my eyescream or wicked 3d glasses then it is exactly the same. I appreciate it is thanks to the Nvidia drivers but they have been doing the 3d drivers for years now and they were most likely devloped by all the companies that came before.



What Nvidia have done is re-release the old 3d technology with smarter glasses at what I think is a silly price. I wanted to play games in 3d with a mate but that is no go with one set of glasses. We ended up with my anaglyph glasses which doesnt need a new monitor either. I could obviously buy a second pair of glasses, three more pairs if I want the family to watch, but since I can't see how this system can become more than niche, I cannot justify the huge expense.



The excitement in 3d at the moment is not being generated by games but by movies. Are you really going to get your family gathered round a 22" display attached to your PC wearing 3d glasses at £100 each? Most people dont watch movies on their PC anyway. The future for NVidia 3d vision is not in movies as the lacklustre launch shows.



Don't get me wrong, sole 3d PC gamers will have a blast. I have played a number of recent games in 3d. It does still rely on the game makers so that there are not too many 3d gliches to distract from the game but generally they play well. I still get that WOW feeling when I see it but at then end of the day I think it needs to deliver more to be successful. If it is not successful it is not going to be good value for money for early adopters and NVidia seem to be going down exactly the same path as previous 3d glasses manufacturers.



I think the system is overpriced simply because it is so niche and will remain so niche. Can 3d movies catch on with glasses at that price? No. Unfortunately when 3d cinema does finally come to home users, it will be yet another company selling you the 3d system but hopefully you won't need £100 per head to kit out family and friends.



Let us hope that 3d standards are developed so that we dont all end up with drawers full of 3d glasses. I have 5 pairs so far.



Thanks for the link to the 3d film software. I will have a look.

#14
Posted 08/03/2009 12:00 PM   
ooops. Posted twice.

Basically the glasses are too expensive!
ooops. Posted twice.



Basically the glasses are too expensive!

#15
Posted 08/03/2009 12:01 PM   
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