I managed to get a mix between them to work but not in direct3d stereo mode. I have been in contact with Nvidia, Asus and Tridef head offices about this, wanting to improve support between the 3 companies.
I have the latest 5.5 retail Tridef software now. The problem for Tridef is that they say they don't have access to Nvidia's software development kits.
As my job was in I.T. for over 20 years I know that this can only come about with communication between the different departments and this can only be a bonus to 3D gaming in general if this happens.
I managed to get a mix between them to work but not in direct3d stereo mode. I have been in contact with Nvidia, Asus and Tridef head offices about this, wanting to improve support between the 3 companies.
I have the latest 5.5 retail Tridef software now. The problem for Tridef is that they say they don't have access to Nvidia's software development kits.
As my job was in I.T. for over 20 years I know that this can only come about with communication between the different departments and this can only be a bonus to 3D gaming in general if this happens.
[quote="Shaderhacker"]Also, there is something very weird about the Tridef system than the 3D Vision. Tridef makes my eyes dizzy for some reason. It's almost like the game isn't in true 3D. Not sure what's up with that. -M[/quote]
You try my profile?? In my profile i change "scene" focus, because with "automatic" (value from the original profile) the convergence is increasing/decreasing very fast (in 5 seconds the convergence value change like crazy, and this is all the time) and that also make my eyes dizzy and tired. Other thing i try yesterday is disable "sky" focus....that increase a little bit the sense of depth for far objects.
I tell you guys, Tridef is inferior to 3D vision (there is no doubt on that), BUT, SADLY its the only option we have right now (TRY TRIAL FIRST!!)......[b]This game in 3D vision will be (for my taste) AMAZING!![/b] But the history is different.
Edit: Tridef released today a Beta version with an official profile for Far Cry 3. I will try today night.
Shaderhacker said:Also, there is something very weird about the Tridef system than the 3D Vision. Tridef makes my eyes dizzy for some reason. It's almost like the game isn't in true 3D. Not sure what's up with that. -M
You try my profile?? In my profile i change "scene" focus, because with "automatic" (value from the original profile) the convergence is increasing/decreasing very fast (in 5 seconds the convergence value change like crazy, and this is all the time) and that also make my eyes dizzy and tired. Other thing i try yesterday is disable "sky" focus....that increase a little bit the sense of depth for far objects.
I tell you guys, Tridef is inferior to 3D vision (there is no doubt on that), BUT, SADLY its the only option we have right now (TRY TRIAL FIRST!!)......This game in 3D vision will be (for my taste) AMAZING!! But the history is different.
Edit: Tridef released today a Beta version with an official profile for Far Cry 3. I will try today night.
Even if I bought Tridef for this game, those drivers will disable 3D Vision from working with other games. If I could turn off 3d Vision for Far Cry 3 and then turn it back on for other games, I'd do that. But if you re-enable 3D Vision for other games, when loading up the game, Tridef will activate which turns off 3D entirely (even if you load the game outside of Ignition). Somehow Tridef creates a link to the game when you load it up. I had to uninstall Tridef and reinstall my 3D Vision in order to get my games to work in 3D Vision again.. :(
I still have 12 more days to go for Tridef trial version, but it's not looking good.
Also, running Far Cry 3 in regular 3D Vision seems like there is only ONE thing not working - the shadows. Everything else seems to work properly.
Even if I bought Tridef for this game, those drivers will disable 3D Vision from working with other games. If I could turn off 3d Vision for Far Cry 3 and then turn it back on for other games, I'd do that. But if you re-enable 3D Vision for other games, when loading up the game, Tridef will activate which turns off 3D entirely (even if you load the game outside of Ignition). Somehow Tridef creates a link to the game when you load it up. I had to uninstall Tridef and reinstall my 3D Vision in order to get my games to work in 3D Vision again.. :(
I still have 12 more days to go for Tridef trial version, but it's not looking good.
Also, running Far Cry 3 in regular 3D Vision seems like there is only ONE thing not working - the shadows. Everything else seems to work properly.
Hello all,
1)
I have also been testing the Tridef driver, because as we all know the 3D Vision is unplayable.
I have been able to run it on top of the 3D Vision with my Optoma HD67n with XCOM, but still get the same error message "The stereo driver could not be initialized (00300122)." with Far Cry 3. Any ideas? Why is it working on XCOM, but not with Far Cry 3?
2)
Is TriDef the only party doing something about this? Have we heard anything from nVidia or Ubisoft about 3D stereo in Far Cry 3?
3)
Are we (3D stereo gamers) still so small minority that nVidia or the game houses just don't care about us? There is again a lot of discussion about that PC gaming is dying. Stereo 3D has been one of the best things ever for PC gaming and keeping that alive will help keep PC gaming alive. As you all know, once you get into 3D it's very difficult to go back to 2D. I don't want to walk outside with one of my eyes closed, why would I want to do that with my favorite games? Far Cry 3 is a great game and I would love to play some more, BUT I WANT TO DO IT IN 3D!
4)
TriDef is doing a great job, but unfortunately their support for nVidia cards is limited and I happen to have two nVidia cards in my system. Only gtx460 so it would be important for me to be able to run them in SLI. If it's possible to get the shadows etc. to work with TriDef, shouldn't it be possible to fix those same shaders in 3D Vision?
Thanks!
uttnas
1)
I have also been testing the Tridef driver, because as we all know the 3D Vision is unplayable.
I have been able to run it on top of the 3D Vision with my Optoma HD67n with XCOM, but still get the same error message "The stereo driver could not be initialized (00300122)." with Far Cry 3. Any ideas? Why is it working on XCOM, but not with Far Cry 3?
2)
Is TriDef the only party doing something about this? Have we heard anything from nVidia or Ubisoft about 3D stereo in Far Cry 3?
3)
Are we (3D stereo gamers) still so small minority that nVidia or the game houses just don't care about us? There is again a lot of discussion about that PC gaming is dying. Stereo 3D has been one of the best things ever for PC gaming and keeping that alive will help keep PC gaming alive. As you all know, once you get into 3D it's very difficult to go back to 2D. I don't want to walk outside with one of my eyes closed, why would I want to do that with my favorite games? Far Cry 3 is a great game and I would love to play some more, BUT I WANT TO DO IT IN 3D!
4)
TriDef is doing a great job, but unfortunately their support for nVidia cards is limited and I happen to have two nVidia cards in my system. Only gtx460 so it would be important for me to be able to run them in SLI. If it's possible to get the shadows etc. to work with TriDef, shouldn't it be possible to fix those same shaders in 3D Vision?
@Arioch1/Shaderhacker: make sure when you import the profile in Tridef Ignition, you're doing to "farcry3_dx11.exe". When you start the game you have to see (DX11) in the profile (Tridef Message)....and make sure you're not running in Power3D. Shadows are OK in gameplay, only noticed some issues in Characters self shadows in cinematics.
If you have problem with 3D Vision and Tridef, try removing all icons game from Tridef Ignition, leave only Far Cry 3 Profile.
@Arioch1/Shaderhacker: make sure when you import the profile in Tridef Ignition, you're doing to "farcry3_dx11.exe". When you start the game you have to see (DX11) in the profile (Tridef Message)....and make sure you're not running in Power3D. Shadows are OK in gameplay, only noticed some issues in Characters self shadows in cinematics.
If you have problem with 3D Vision and Tridef, try removing all icons game from Tridef Ignition, leave only Far Cry 3 Profile.
Thanks for all your help DHR. When I load the game it shows your profile name and the game is in DX11 as confirmed by FRAPS.
I have spent way more time than is healthy trying to get it to work. I have tried all kinds of things - running in HDMI mode with 3DTV play, trying old TriDef drivers, and even uninstalling the 3D drivers completely and installing just my old emitter from my old monitor. No matter what I do the stereo driver never initializes and I get the error message I mentioned before. I just don't think it will ever work on this monitor.
I offer a gift of a free Steam game if someone can fix the major issues like shadows using the Helix mod.
Thanks for all your help DHR. When I load the game it shows your profile name and the game is in DX11 as confirmed by FRAPS.
I have spent way more time than is healthy trying to get it to work. I have tried all kinds of things - running in HDMI mode with 3DTV play, trying old TriDef drivers, and even uninstalling the 3D drivers completely and installing just my old emitter from my old monitor. No matter what I do the stereo driver never initializes and I get the error message I mentioned before. I just don't think it will ever work on this monitor.
I offer a gift of a free Steam game if someone can fix the major issues like shadows using the Helix mod.
1080 GTX 8GB SLI | I7-4770K@4.5GHz | 16GB RAM | Win10x64
Asus ROG Swift PG278Q | 3D Vision 2
Asus vg278h monitor as hdmi 1.4 device works in 3d with tridef, using side by side configuration in both tridef and monitor menu.
Its a bit of a blurry/ low res experience though with 720p @ 60hz or 1080i @ 24hz.
Asus vg278h monitor as hdmi 1.4 device works in 3d with tridef, using side by side configuration in both tridef and monitor menu.
Its a bit of a blurry/ low res experience though with 720p @ 60hz or 1080i @ 24hz.
I think I'll also give up with TriDef, I have spent way too much time on this. Maybe my next hardware will be AMD, but for now I do hope there will be a 3D Vision solution. Arioch1 is offering a free Steam game... I would actually willing to pay extra for a 3D Vision version of he future games, if I would know they work and I'm sure I'm not the only one HINT Game developers HINT
uttnas
I think I'll also give up with TriDef, I have spent way too much time on this. Maybe my next hardware will be AMD, but for now I do hope there will be a 3D Vision solution. Arioch1 is offering a free Steam game... I would actually willing to pay extra for a 3D Vision version of he future games, if I would know they work and I'm sure I'm not the only one HINT Game developers HINT
[quote="DHR"]@Arioch1/Shaderhacker: make sure when you import the profile in Tridef Ignition, you're doing to "farcry3_dx11.exe". When you start the game you have to see (DX11) in the profile (Tridef Message)....and make sure you're not running in Power3D. Shadows are OK in gameplay, only noticed some issues in Characters self shadows in cinematics.[/quote]
Yes, I am able to get it to work. It's trying to play other games that makes 3D Vision not work anymore.
[quote]
If you have problem with 3D Vision and Tridef, try removing all icons game from Tridef Ignition, leave only Far Cry 3 Profile.[/quote]
I will try this when I get home.
DHR said:@Arioch1/Shaderhacker: make sure when you import the profile in Tridef Ignition, you're doing to "farcry3_dx11.exe". When you start the game you have to see (DX11) in the profile (Tridef Message)....and make sure you're not running in Power3D. Shadows are OK in gameplay, only noticed some issues in Characters self shadows in cinematics.
Yes, I am able to get it to work. It's trying to play other games that makes 3D Vision not work anymore.
If you have problem with 3D Vision and Tridef, try removing all icons game from Tridef Ignition, leave only Far Cry 3 Profile.
http://www.tridef.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=3110&p=13681#p13681
offical profile
I downloaded and experimented. 3d vision + tridef stack only works in dx9.
As I can't get Tridef works I have few question for those who use it.
Does it have small lights issues for indoor maps or at hight (100 depth) ?
For better explanations I took few screenshots:
https://s3.amazonaws.com/-HeliX-/farcry302_75.jps
Cut off light in the cave, only at distance.
https://s3.amazonaws.com/-HeliX-/farcry303_75.jps
Also some road dust problem only at close distance(wrong depth): https://s3.amazonaws.com/-HeliX-/farcry306_75.jps
Evrything else seems to looks fine:
https://s3.amazonaws.com/-HeliX-/farcry320_50.jps
https://s3.amazonaws.com/-HeliX-/farcry321_50.jps
https://s3.amazonaws.com/-HeliX-/farcry301_75.jps
https://s3.amazonaws.com/-HeliX-/farcry304_75.jps
https://s3.amazonaws.com/-HeliX-/farcry305_75.jps
https://s3.amazonaws.com/-HeliX-/farcry307_75.jps
I will be grateful if anyone can post same (100 depth, same places) screenshots from tridef in format compatible with 3D vision viewer (Don't post tridef screenshots please, I can't properly install tridef , because of conflict with another software I have and can't view their screenshots).
I will be grateful if anyone can post same (100 depth, same places) screenshots from tridef in format compatible with 3D vision viewer (Don't post tridef screenshots please, I can't properly install tridef , because of conflict with another software I have and can't view their screenshots).
Helix, for some reason i can donwload/view those screenshots (there are not links and if i copy-paste in explorer dont do nothing). I use tridef with this game and noticed the next issues (100 depth):
- Issues with Character Self shadows in Cinematics (gameplay is OK)
- Minor lights problems indoors
- Main Target icons 2D
- Minor Water Reflections (have to use Water = Medium)
Not noticed road dust problem.
All options max out (except water), use SSAO (better results) and FOV = 90
You're making a DX9 fix? :)
Helix, for some reason i can donwload/view those screenshots (there are not links and if i copy-paste in explorer dont do nothing). I use tridef with this game and noticed the next issues (100 depth):
- Issues with Character Self shadows in Cinematics (gameplay is OK)
- Minor lights problems indoors
- Main Target icons 2D
- Minor Water Reflections (have to use Water = Medium)
Not noticed road dust problem.
All options max out (except water), use SSAO (better results) and FOV = 90
I have the latest 5.5 retail Tridef software now. The problem for Tridef is that they say they don't have access to Nvidia's software development kits.
As my job was in I.T. for over 20 years I know that this can only come about with communication between the different departments and this can only be a bonus to 3D gaming in general if this happens.
You try my profile?? In my profile i change "scene" focus, because with "automatic" (value from the original profile) the convergence is increasing/decreasing very fast (in 5 seconds the convergence value change like crazy, and this is all the time) and that also make my eyes dizzy and tired. Other thing i try yesterday is disable "sky" focus....that increase a little bit the sense of depth for far objects.
I tell you guys, Tridef is inferior to 3D vision (there is no doubt on that), BUT, SADLY its the only option we have right now (TRY TRIAL FIRST!!)......This game in 3D vision will be (for my taste) AMAZING!! But the history is different.
Edit: Tridef released today a Beta version with an official profile for Far Cry 3. I will try today night.
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My 3D Screenshot Gallery
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I still have 12 more days to go for Tridef trial version, but it's not looking good.
Also, running Far Cry 3 in regular 3D Vision seems like there is only ONE thing not working - the shadows. Everything else seems to work properly.
1080 GTX 8GB SLI | I7-4770K@4.5GHz | 16GB RAM | Win10x64
Asus ROG Swift PG278Q | 3D Vision 2
1)
I have also been testing the Tridef driver, because as we all know the 3D Vision is unplayable.
I have been able to run it on top of the 3D Vision with my Optoma HD67n with XCOM, but still get the same error message "The stereo driver could not be initialized (00300122)." with Far Cry 3. Any ideas? Why is it working on XCOM, but not with Far Cry 3?
2)
Is TriDef the only party doing something about this? Have we heard anything from nVidia or Ubisoft about 3D stereo in Far Cry 3?
3)
Are we (3D stereo gamers) still so small minority that nVidia or the game houses just don't care about us? There is again a lot of discussion about that PC gaming is dying. Stereo 3D has been one of the best things ever for PC gaming and keeping that alive will help keep PC gaming alive. As you all know, once you get into 3D it's very difficult to go back to 2D. I don't want to walk outside with one of my eyes closed, why would I want to do that with my favorite games? Far Cry 3 is a great game and I would love to play some more, BUT I WANT TO DO IT IN 3D!
4)
TriDef is doing a great job, but unfortunately their support for nVidia cards is limited and I happen to have two nVidia cards in my system. Only gtx460 so it would be important for me to be able to run them in SLI. If it's possible to get the shadows etc. to work with TriDef, shouldn't it be possible to fix those same shaders in 3D Vision?
Thanks!
uttnas
If you have problem with 3D Vision and Tridef, try removing all icons game from Tridef Ignition, leave only Far Cry 3 Profile.
MY WEB
Helix Mod - Making 3D Better
My 3D Screenshot Gallery
Like my fixes? you can donate to Paypal: dhr.donation@gmail.com
I have spent way more time than is healthy trying to get it to work. I have tried all kinds of things - running in HDMI mode with 3DTV play, trying old TriDef drivers, and even uninstalling the 3D drivers completely and installing just my old emitter from my old monitor. No matter what I do the stereo driver never initializes and I get the error message I mentioned before. I just don't think it will ever work on this monitor.
I offer a gift of a free Steam game if someone can fix the major issues like shadows using the Helix mod.
1080 GTX 8GB SLI | I7-4770K@4.5GHz | 16GB RAM | Win10x64
Asus ROG Swift PG278Q | 3D Vision 2
Its a bit of a blurry/ low res experience though with 720p @ 60hz or 1080i @ 24hz.
uttnas
Yes, I am able to get it to work. It's trying to play other games that makes 3D Vision not work anymore.
I will try this when I get home.
offical profile
I downloaded and experimented. 3d vision + tridef stack only works in dx9.
Co-founder of helixmod.blog.com
If you like one of my helixmod patches and want to donate. Can send to me through paypal - eqzitara@yahoo.com
If I try to launch Far Cry 3 in dx9 with TriDef it will crash. Any ideas?
uttnas
Does it have small lights issues for indoor maps or at hight (100 depth) ?
For better explanations I took few screenshots:
https://s3.amazonaws.com/-HeliX-/farcry302_75.jps
Cut off light in the cave, only at distance.
https://s3.amazonaws.com/-HeliX-/farcry303_75.jps
Also some road dust problem only at close distance(wrong depth): https://s3.amazonaws.com/-HeliX-/farcry306_75.jps
Evrything else seems to looks fine:
https://s3.amazonaws.com/-HeliX-/farcry320_50.jps
https://s3.amazonaws.com/-HeliX-/farcry321_50.jps
https://s3.amazonaws.com/-HeliX-/farcry301_75.jps
https://s3.amazonaws.com/-HeliX-/farcry304_75.jps
https://s3.amazonaws.com/-HeliX-/farcry305_75.jps
https://s3.amazonaws.com/-HeliX-/farcry307_75.jps
I will be grateful if anyone can post same (100 depth, same places) screenshots from tridef in format compatible with 3D vision viewer (Don't post tridef screenshots please, I can't properly install tridef , because of conflict with another software I have and can't view their screenshots).
- Issues with Character Self shadows in Cinematics (gameplay is OK)
- Minor lights problems indoors
- Main Target icons 2D
- Minor Water Reflections (have to use Water = Medium)
Not noticed road dust problem.
All options max out (except water), use SSAO (better results) and FOV = 90
You're making a DX9 fix? :)
MY WEB
Helix Mod - Making 3D Better
My 3D Screenshot Gallery
Like my fixes? you can donate to Paypal: dhr.donation@gmail.com
Re uploaded screenshots here:
Lights issue:
http://photos.3dvisionlive.com/HeliX666/image/50c34b64a3e067f427000011/
http://photos.3dvisionlive.com/HeliX666/image/50c34b36a3e067f32700000a/
Road dust:
http://photos.3dvisionlive.com/HeliX666/image/50c34ad7a3e067f327000002/
Other screenshots:
http://photos.3dvisionlive.com/HeliX666/image/50c34aaca3e067f427000000/
http://photos.3dvisionlive.com/HeliX666/image/50c34afba3e067f127000005/
http://photos.3dvisionlive.com/HeliX666/image/50c34b80a3e0678f28000008/
http://photos.3dvisionlive.com/HeliX666/image/50c34b9ca3e0672429000004/
http://photos.3dvisionlive.com/HeliX666/image/50c34bb5a3e0672429000007/