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[quote="spin*1"]Is there any way I can get new drivers to work with 3D Vision with Win 8.1 64-bit? [/quote] Theoretically my kit should work for win 8.1 also. Test an report if work, just follow steps from post #35 except download 430.86 version.
spin*1 said:Is there any way I can get new drivers to work with 3D Vision with Win 8.1 64-bit?

Theoretically my kit should work for win 8.1 also. Test an report if work, just follow steps from post #35 except download 430.86 version.

#76
Posted 05/28/2019 06:59 AM   
[quote="Losti"]@zig11727 and @spin*1 DAMN YOU ALL SHOULD READ THIS, how often I have to write this until the last of us will do stop complaining about not working things????? ==> Yeah take your time to read and not siple download and overwrite without knowing what you are doing .... is hard isnt it ^^?? *facepalm* ...Sorry... [url]https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/1109399/3d-vision/the-way-its-meant-to-be-played-/post/6045450/#6045450[/url] YEAH there is a little bit more work to do buts not magic !! The Files from harisukro are for WINDOWS 7 !!! If you follow my tutorial you can use the files for YOUR OWN WINDOWS VERSION! And every version you want !!! [/quote]I have read quite a bit of this thread but it's still VERY unclear. Why? Some people say it works. Some people say it doesn't. Some people say it works in Win 7 but not 10. Some people say it works with a 10-series card but not a 20-series card, etc. etc. etc. Do you see now why I ask? Because it's a big mess with all sorts of different experiences and answers so in the end I don't know what the heck is what. Also, on top of all that, some one said that the posted fix is a custom file and not an Nvidia file. In today's age, installing some random file can make you very nervous (security, virus, secret background cryptocurrency miners. stolen info, etc.). [quote="harisukro"] Theoretically my kit should work for win 8.1 also. Test an report if work, just follow steps from post #35 except download 430.86 version.[/quote]OK. Trying right now. Thanks. I noticed Nvidia drivers for Win 8.1 and 7 are always the exact same download file. Maybe Nvidia drivers do not differentiate between Win 7, 8.0, and 8.1?...
Losti said:@zig11727 and @spin*1

DAMN YOU ALL SHOULD READ THIS, how often I have to write this until the last of us will do stop complaining about not working things????? ==> Yeah take your time to read and not siple download and overwrite without knowing what you are doing .... is hard isnt it ^^?? *facepalm*

...Sorry...

https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/1109399/3d-vision/the-way-its-meant-to-be-played-/post/6045450/#6045450

YEAH there is a little bit more work to do buts not magic !! The Files from harisukro are for WINDOWS 7 !!! If you follow my tutorial you can use the files for YOUR OWN WINDOWS VERSION! And every version you want !!!
I have read quite a bit of this thread but it's still VERY unclear. Why? Some people say it works. Some people say it doesn't. Some people say it works in Win 7 but not 10. Some people say it works with a 10-series card but not a 20-series card, etc. etc. etc. Do you see now why I ask? Because it's a big mess with all sorts of different experiences and answers so in the end I don't know what the heck is what.

Also, on top of all that, some one said that the posted fix is a custom file and not an Nvidia file. In today's age, installing some random file can make you very nervous (security, virus, secret background cryptocurrency miners. stolen info, etc.).

harisukro said:
Theoretically my kit should work for win 8.1 also. Test an report if work, just follow steps from post #35 except download 430.86 version.
OK. Trying right now. Thanks.
I noticed Nvidia drivers for Win 8.1 and 7 are always the exact same download file. Maybe Nvidia drivers do not differentiate between Win 7, 8.0, and 8.1?...

#77
Posted 05/28/2019 07:00 AM   
[quote="spin*1"] I have read quite a bit of this thread but it's still VERY unclear. Why? Some people say it works. Some people say it doesn't. Some people say it works in Win 7 but not 10. Some people say it works with a 10-series card but not a 20-series card, etc. etc. etc. Do you see now why I ask? Because it's a big mess with all sorts of different experiences and answers so in the end I don't know what the heck is what.[/quote] THIS is exactly the problem here. Some people mixed up methods or posting error messages in a thread for a method that wasnt used.... Annyway. Its up to you the solution is there. If you follow, you will have success. If not, you may fail. PS: If you are using Windows 8 or 7 you can use the files from harisukro. 7/8/8.1 = the same for the driver download. I for one do not trust those external things completely. I have things better completely in my hands and be independend from any file uploads. The thing what i just wonder about: I saw the files (harisukro) are from 22.05 and also in the 3dvision.exe file the are 22.05 but having version 430.86! How the hell is this possible? The driver is from 27.05 and the SFX archive is from 22.05 having the signature of 430.86?
spin*1 said:
I have read quite a bit of this thread but it's still VERY unclear. Why? Some people say it works. Some people say it doesn't. Some people say it works in Win 7 but not 10. Some people say it works with a 10-series card but not a 20-series card, etc. etc. etc. Do you see now why I ask? Because it's a big mess with all sorts of different experiences and answers so in the end I don't know what the heck is what.


THIS is exactly the problem here. Some people mixed up methods or posting error messages in a thread for a method that wasnt used....

Annyway. Its up to you the solution is there. If you follow, you will have success. If not, you may fail.
PS: If you are using Windows 8 or 7 you can use the files from harisukro. 7/8/8.1 = the same for the driver download. I for one do not trust those external things completely. I have things better completely in my hands and be independend from any file uploads.

The thing what i just wonder about:

I saw the files (harisukro) are from 22.05 and also in the 3dvision.exe file the are 22.05 but having version 430.86! How the hell is this possible? The driver is from 27.05 and the SFX archive is from 22.05 having the signature of 430.86?

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#78
Posted 05/28/2019 08:41 AM   
@Losti I followed your instructions to the tee on two different computer with different Windows 10 builds and with a RTX video cards it doesn't work with Windows 10 and RTX video card. The only other user who try you solution was DHR who has a RTX video card and is running Windows 7 which I stated many times works fine. There are other users who have RTX cards and running Windows 10 lets see if it works on there computers. Have you tested your solution with RTX Video with the current of Windows 10 ?
@Losti

I followed your instructions to the tee on two different computer with different Windows 10 builds and with a RTX video cards it doesn't work with Windows 10 and RTX video card.

The only other user who try you solution was DHR who has a RTX video card and is running Windows 7 which I stated many times works fine.

There are other users who have RTX cards and running Windows 10 lets see if it works on there computers.

Have you tested your solution with RTX Video with the current of Windows 10 ?

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#79
Posted 05/28/2019 10:30 AM   
This sounds not logic, you be sure you have done all the things i wrote and used your own version-modied files from the windows 10 3D-Vision driver? What 3D-Vision files have you used? From witch 3D-Vision driver Version?
This sounds not logic, you be sure you have done all the things i wrote and used your own version-modied files from the windows 10 3D-Vision driver?

What 3D-Vision files have you used? From witch 3D-Vision driver Version?

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#80
Posted 05/28/2019 11:54 AM   
@Losti NO I didn't use any modded files that were downloaded I followed instructions modded the files. NO MODDED files that were download was used. followed your instructions to the tee Nvidia Version 425.52 (latest working version with 3D Vision) this version works fine with 3D Vision on both of computers I used. copied the 3D Vision driver and usb controller from Version 425.52 to files Nvidia Version 430.86 Unzip the 3D Vision.exe and I modded the files with FVIE.EXE (ran as admin) and follow your steps. Product ID and Version # on both files followed the install and reboot steps. Why does this sound not logic you never try your solution with Windows 10 and RTX video card.
@Losti
NO I didn't use any modded files that were downloaded I followed instructions modded the files.

NO MODDED files that were download was used. followed your instructions to the tee
Nvidia Version 425.52 (latest working version with 3D Vision) this version works fine with 3D Vision on both of computers I used.
copied the 3D Vision driver and usb controller from Version 425.52
to
files
Nvidia Version 430.86
Unzip the 3D Vision.exe and
I modded the files with FVIE.EXE (ran as admin) and follow your steps. Product ID and Version # on both
files followed the install and reboot steps.

Why does this sound not logic you never try your solution with Windows 10 and RTX video card.

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#81
Posted 05/28/2019 12:20 PM   
Ok, so you have done the things right it seems. Na it sounds not logic that windows 7 is workingbut windows 10 not. Do you have used DDU before install the 425 ? May you should try the 3D-Vision files from the latest official release as a try: 425.31. Make sure you clean up your driver with DDU to besure that there are no artifacts left. Than install 425.31, use the 3D-Vision files from here for 430.86 ....and so on. May this will work. "you never try your solution with Windows 10 and RTX video card" Yeah of course i dont have this card but if 430.86 is working with 3D-Vision on windows 7, it also should work on windows 10, if 3D vision is working with RTX and the latest 3D-Vision offical driver 425.31. Youc CTD problem exists for every game you try?
Ok, so you have done the things right it seems.

Na it sounds not logic that windows 7 is workingbut windows 10 not.

Do you have used DDU before install the 425 ?

May you should try the 3D-Vision files from the latest official release as a try: 425.31. Make sure you clean up your driver with DDU to besure that there are no artifacts left. Than install 425.31, use the 3D-Vision files from here for 430.86 ....and so on. May this will work.

"you never try your solution with Windows 10 and RTX video card" Yeah of course i dont have this card but if 430.86 is working with 3D-Vision on windows 7, it also should work on windows 10, if 3D vision is working with RTX and the latest 3D-Vision offical driver 425.31.

Youc CTD problem exists for every game you try?

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#82
Posted 05/28/2019 12:33 PM   
[quote="zig11727"]The only other user who try you solution was DHR who has a RTX video card and is running Windows 7 which I stated many times works fine.[/quote] btw I only test the "harisukro" solution and works...i still don't test another solution.
zig11727 said:The only other user who try you solution was DHR who has a RTX video card and is running Windows 7 which I stated many times works fine.

btw I only test the "harisukro" solution and works...i still don't test another solution.

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#83
Posted 05/28/2019 12:36 PM   
[quote="Losti"]Ok, so you have done the things right it seems. Na it sounds not logic that windows 7 is workingbut windows 10 not. Do you have used DDU before install the 425 ? May you should try the 3D-Vision files from the latest official release as a try: 425.31. Make sure you clean up your driver with DDU to besure that there are no artifacts left. Than install 425.31, use the 3D-Vision files from here for 430.86 ....and so on. May this will work. "you never try your solution with Windows 10 and RTX video card" Yeah of course i dont have this card but if 430.86 is working with 3D-Vision on windows 7, it also should work on windows 10, if 3D vision is working with RTX and the latest 3D-Vision offical driver 425.31. Youc CTD problem exists for every game you try?[/quote] I always use DDU even on a regular driver update. Games tested Sekiro Yazuka Resident Evil 2 (remake) Ashen Tekken 7 All the above games run fine on Windows 7 /with the latest drivers and your steps " "run fine on Windows 10 last supported Nvidia 3D Vision supported driver. The reason why is Windows 7 doesn't fully support the RTX features and only has limited version of DX12 pre game bases. The new drivers 430.XX could have new RTX features only available on Windows 10 that don't let 3D Vision run properly.
Losti said:Ok, so you have done the things right it seems.

Na it sounds not logic that windows 7 is workingbut windows 10 not.

Do you have used DDU before install the 425 ?

May you should try the 3D-Vision files from the latest official release as a try: 425.31. Make sure you clean up your driver with DDU to besure that there are no artifacts left. Than install 425.31, use the 3D-Vision files from here for 430.86 ....and so on. May this will work.

"you never try your solution with Windows 10 and RTX video card" Yeah of course i dont have this card but if 430.86 is working with 3D-Vision on windows 7, it also should work on windows 10, if 3D vision is working with RTX and the latest 3D-Vision offical driver 425.31.

Youc CTD problem exists for every game you try?


I always use DDU even on a regular driver update.

Games tested
Sekiro
Yazuka
Resident Evil 2 (remake)
Ashen
Tekken 7

All the above games run fine on Windows 7 /with the latest drivers and your steps
" "run fine on Windows 10 last supported Nvidia 3D Vision supported driver.

The reason why is Windows 7 doesn't fully support the RTX features and only has limited version of DX12 pre game bases.

The new drivers 430.XX could have new RTX features only available on Windows 10 that don't let 3D Vision run properly.

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#84
Posted 05/28/2019 12:47 PM   
OK this sounds more logic now ^^ Do all theese games have RTX features ? If yes, can you disabled it?
OK this sounds more logic now ^^

Do all theese games have RTX features ? If yes, can you disabled it?

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#85
Posted 05/28/2019 01:07 PM   
@zig11727 try to run games with compatibility with win7 or win8?. In the EXE properties.
@zig11727
try to run games with compatibility with win7 or win8?. In the EXE properties.

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#86
Posted 05/28/2019 01:15 PM   
@Losti The new RTX features are properly built into the 430.XX drivers and I try 425.31 the same result. @DHR Thanks try that. Helifax is running Windows 10 with RTX card let's wait and see if he has a problem.
@Losti

The new RTX features are properly built into the 430.XX drivers and I try 425.31 the same result.

@DHR

Thanks try that.

Helifax is running Windows 10 with RTX card let's wait and see if he has a problem.

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#87
Posted 05/28/2019 01:46 PM   
I didn't get to try it out yet. I am still on 425.31 I believe. Lately I've been VR-ing mostly. I'll give it a go probably this evening. From what I understand, it works fine for RTX cards under Windows 7 but not Windows 10. It also works fine for non-RTX cards in Windows 7 & Windows 10?
I didn't get to try it out yet. I am still on 425.31 I believe. Lately I've been VR-ing mostly.
I'll give it a go probably this evening.

From what I understand, it works fine for RTX cards under Windows 7 but not Windows 10. It also works fine for non-RTX cards in Windows 7 & Windows 10?

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#88
Posted 05/28/2019 02:27 PM   
[quote="Helifax"]I didn't get to try it out yet. I am still on 425.31 I believe. Lately I've been VR-ing mostly. I'll give it a go probably this evening. From what I understand, it works fine for RTX cards under Windows 7 but not Windows 10. It also works fine for non-RTX cards in Windows 7 & Windows 10? [/quote] Yes the fix works in Windows 7 no problem with RTX video cards the fix seems to works with pre RTX video cards in Windows 10 the fix doesn't work with my two Windows 10 RTX systems in installs OK but when you run a 3D Vision game it just quits to the desktop.
Helifax said:I didn't get to try it out yet. I am still on 425.31 I believe. Lately I've been VR-ing mostly.
I'll give it a go probably this evening.

From what I understand, it works fine for RTX cards under Windows 7 but not Windows 10. It also works fine for non-RTX cards in Windows 7 & Windows 10?


Yes the fix works in Windows 7 no problem with RTX video cards
the fix seems to works with pre RTX video cards in Windows 10 the fix doesn't work with my two Windows 10 RTX systems in installs OK but when you run a 3D Vision game it just quits to the desktop.

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#89
Posted 05/28/2019 02:32 PM   
According to the Release Notes in 430.39 (as it is the first driver without 3D Vision): [quote] New Features  Added support for Windows 10 May 2019 Update (includes Variable Rate Shading). Discontinued Support  3D Vision Beginning with Release 430, the NVIDIA driver no longer supports the following 3D Vision technologies and features: • NVIDIA 3D Stereoscopic Driver, including the 3D Vision driver and USB (emitter) driver • NVAPI-based stereo APIs for Direct3D applications. [/quote] This means that NVAPI is ignoring all the Stereo Related API calls. I am not exactly sure how it would work without it. The fact that it crashes it makes sense. The fact that it works for some people, now that is what doesn't make sense.... RTX is DX12 only, it doesn't matter for anything else then DX12. As for that Windows 10 May update... I am not sure if that would prevent the driver from working. I just wanted to understand what is different before I start hacking away at it ;)
According to the Release Notes in 430.39 (as it is the first driver without 3D Vision):



New Features
 Added support for Windows 10 May 2019 Update (includes Variable Rate Shading).

Discontinued Support
 3D Vision
Beginning with Release 430, the NVIDIA driver no longer supports the following 3D
Vision technologies and features:
• NVIDIA 3D Stereoscopic Driver, including the 3D Vision driver and USB (emitter)
driver
• NVAPI-based stereo APIs for Direct3D applications.


This means that NVAPI is ignoring all the Stereo Related API calls. I am not exactly sure how it would work without it. The fact that it crashes it makes sense. The fact that it works for some people, now that is what doesn't make sense....

RTX is DX12 only, it doesn't matter for anything else then DX12.

As for that Windows 10 May update... I am not sure if that would prevent the driver from working.

I just wanted to understand what is different before I start hacking away at it ;)

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- SanDisk SSD PLUS 480 GB.
- Intel 760p 256GB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD.
Creative Sound Blaster Z.
Windows 10 x64 Pro.
etc


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Posted 05/28/2019 03:33 PM   
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