Is it worth buying a RTX2080 if ya use 3D? I currently have 2 970's in SLI and just purchased the Nvision 2 kit. Already have a 3D Vision display. Was thinking of buying a RTX2080 now then maybe adding another later utilizing the new SLI (NVlink or something) Will I be able to use the latest drivers as they come out or will I have to stick with the last ones with stereo drivers included? I'd hate to be stuck with old drivers as new games out.
Thanks for any help. Been looking forward to 3d gaming for years but just getting around to it now. Great timing eh?
Is it worth buying a RTX2080 if ya use 3D? I currently have 2 970's in SLI and just purchased the Nvision 2 kit. Already have a 3D Vision display. Was thinking of buying a RTX2080 now then maybe adding another later utilizing the new SLI (NVlink or something) Will I be able to use the latest drivers as they come out or will I have to stick with the last ones with stereo drivers included? I'd hate to be stuck with old drivers as new games out.
Thanks for any help. Been looking forward to 3d gaming for years but just getting around to it now. Great timing eh?
The RTX2080 will be much faster than your 970s. A friend of mine bought my old GTX1070 as an upgrade from 970 SLI and that was faster.
At a guess, you'll probably get at least 50% better performance with the upgrade. Even more where SLI is problematic.
Regarding drivers, as per all the other threads, you'll be stuck on old drivers if you want 3d vision. But then you'd be stuck on old drivers if you wanted 3d vision regardless of your card, so I'd upgrade just for the better all round performance anyway.
The RTX2080 will be much faster than your 970s. A friend of mine bought my old GTX1070 as an upgrade from 970 SLI and that was faster.
At a guess, you'll probably get at least 50% better performance with the upgrade. Even more where SLI is problematic.
Regarding drivers, as per all the other threads, you'll be stuck on old drivers if you want 3d vision. But then you'd be stuck on old drivers if you wanted 3d vision regardless of your card, so I'd upgrade just for the better all round performance anyway.
Gigabyte RTX2080TI Gaming OC, I7-6700k ~ 4.4Ghz, 3x BenQ XL2420T, BenQ TK800, LG 55EG960V (3D OLED), Samsung 850 EVO SSD, Crucial M4 SSD, 3D vision kit, Xpand x104 glasses, Corsair HX1000i, Win 10 pro 64/Win 7 64https://www.3dmark.com/fs/9529310
[quote="Captain_Valk"]Is it worth buying a RTX2080 if ya use 3D? I currently have 2 970's in SLI and just purchased the Nvision 2 kit. Already have a 3D Vision display. Was thinking of buying a RTX2080 now then maybe adding another later utilizing the new SLI (NVlink or something) Will I be able to use the latest drivers as they come out or will I have to stick with the last ones with stereo drivers included? I'd hate to be stuck with old drivers as new games out.
Thanks for any help. Been looking forward to 3d gaming for years but just getting around to it now. Great timing eh? [/quote]
Welcome to the forum. Don't own an RTX2080 myself, but I do recall that there's at least one other forum member who does, and who may be able to offer you a first hand performance guide. I'd probably go for the 2080Ti now, but maybe a possible future 2080 NV-Link setup suits your own budget. A 2080Ti is undoubtedly over-priced, but further on down the line, I reckon you'll be happy with the extra performance it provides.
I'd imagine that you're familiar enough with SLI to know that it can be a rather hit and miss affair. I'm putting together a 1080Ti SLI rig myself, fully aware of which of the games in my library scale sufficiently well on my current rig, so as to justify SLI on a new one. If you do decide to go the 2080 NV-Link route, consider getting a 40 lane CPU at some point, that at least has the potential to maximize your bandwidth via NV-Link. Specific games are known to have incredible performance gains as a result.
Driver 425.31 looks to be the last version that will work with 3D Vision. Once again, it will be hit and miss in the future, with some possible AAA titles requiring the latest driver just to run in 2D, others not. Saying that, the back catalog on http://helixmod.blogspot.com/ is vast. I doubt if any one of us long-time 3D enthusiasts have gotten through even half of what's already been fixed by helixmod's shader-hackers.
Be sure to download '3D Fix Manager' via the tab on the Helixmod site. I can't recommend it highly enough for those new to 3D Vision. Its creator frequents this forum, and I'm sure will be happy to help you out if needed.
LOL! Sure, your timing may not have been perfect, but without a doubt it's most definitely a case of better late than never. Besides, 3D gaming may still continue on in some form, on either a flat screen or a HMD of some kind, but that still remains to be seen.
Good luck with getting it all set up, and I hope that you the enjoy the experience. ;)
Captain_Valk said:Is it worth buying a RTX2080 if ya use 3D? I currently have 2 970's in SLI and just purchased the Nvision 2 kit. Already have a 3D Vision display. Was thinking of buying a RTX2080 now then maybe adding another later utilizing the new SLI (NVlink or something) Will I be able to use the latest drivers as they come out or will I have to stick with the last ones with stereo drivers included? I'd hate to be stuck with old drivers as new games out.
Thanks for any help. Been looking forward to 3d gaming for years but just getting around to it now. Great timing eh?
Welcome to the forum. Don't own an RTX2080 myself, but I do recall that there's at least one other forum member who does, and who may be able to offer you a first hand performance guide. I'd probably go for the 2080Ti now, but maybe a possible future 2080 NV-Link setup suits your own budget. A 2080Ti is undoubtedly over-priced, but further on down the line, I reckon you'll be happy with the extra performance it provides.
I'd imagine that you're familiar enough with SLI to know that it can be a rather hit and miss affair. I'm putting together a 1080Ti SLI rig myself, fully aware of which of the games in my library scale sufficiently well on my current rig, so as to justify SLI on a new one. If you do decide to go the 2080 NV-Link route, consider getting a 40 lane CPU at some point, that at least has the potential to maximize your bandwidth via NV-Link. Specific games are known to have incredible performance gains as a result.
Driver 425.31 looks to be the last version that will work with 3D Vision. Once again, it will be hit and miss in the future, with some possible AAA titles requiring the latest driver just to run in 2D, others not. Saying that, the back catalog on http://helixmod.blogspot.com/ is vast. I doubt if any one of us long-time 3D enthusiasts have gotten through even half of what's already been fixed by helixmod's shader-hackers.
Be sure to download '3D Fix Manager' via the tab on the Helixmod site. I can't recommend it highly enough for those new to 3D Vision. Its creator frequents this forum, and I'm sure will be happy to help you out if needed.
LOL! Sure, your timing may not have been perfect, but without a doubt it's most definitely a case of better late than never. Besides, 3D gaming may still continue on in some form, on either a flat screen or a HMD of some kind, but that still remains to be seen.
Good luck with getting it all set up, and I hope that you the enjoy the experience. ;)
Wow great info thank you both so much! I have an AMD FX 9590 @5.2 and a 990 Mobo so I think that gives me around 40 lanes. I also upgraded to a HX1000i PSU so the cards are really my last step. Look forward to being a part of what seems to be a passionate community. I'll make sure I support the handful of great ppl here that seem to be keeping this alive. Haven't been this excited since I upgraded from a CRT monitor!
Wow great info thank you both so much! I have an AMD FX 9590 @5.2 and a 990 Mobo so I think that gives me around 40 lanes. I also upgraded to a HX1000i PSU so the cards are really my last step. Look forward to being a part of what seems to be a passionate community. I'll make sure I support the handful of great ppl here that seem to be keeping this alive. Haven't been this excited since I upgraded from a CRT monitor!
I agree, you might want to consider a 2080ti instead if you plan on playing modern AAA games in 3D, - it is indeed overpriced but it will be the top option for the foreseeable future since Nvidia dropped 3D driver support, so you will not need to upgrade your GPU again. Or as you mentioned, 2080 SLI is an option later on...but I would talk to some of our SLI 3D guys here on the board, as they might warn against it for the headaches it can introduce in 3D. Single card is much less stress and hassle, from what I have read on these boards.
also remember that the RTX features (ray tracing and DLSS) won't be usable in 3D DX11, as they are only available for DX12. you will be buying 2080/2080ti strictly for performance (which annoyed me a little when considering buying one since I knew I was overpaying and not even using the RTX features, but was still worth it to me for the great performance in 3D - slave to those 3D FPS that I am).
I agree, you might want to consider a 2080ti instead if you plan on playing modern AAA games in 3D, - it is indeed overpriced but it will be the top option for the foreseeable future since Nvidia dropped 3D driver support, so you will not need to upgrade your GPU again. Or as you mentioned, 2080 SLI is an option later on...but I would talk to some of our SLI 3D guys here on the board, as they might warn against it for the headaches it can introduce in 3D. Single card is much less stress and hassle, from what I have read on these boards.
also remember that the RTX features (ray tracing and DLSS) won't be usable in 3D DX11, as they are only available for DX12. you will be buying 2080/2080ti strictly for performance (which annoyed me a little when considering buying one since I knew I was overpaying and not even using the RTX features, but was still worth it to me for the great performance in 3D - slave to those 3D FPS that I am).
Oh man I'm glad you mentioned the directx 12 thing. I didn't even consider that. I think I'm going to add an extra SSD with Windows 10 (I'm only using 7 now) that way I can boot to that if I want to play around with new drivers, ray tracing etc. Its only a matter of time before some huge game comes out that just isn't worth jumping thru the hoops for SLI and 3D. After the small fortune I've spent already, whats another hard drive...
Oh goodie something else to order!
Oh man I'm glad you mentioned the directx 12 thing. I didn't even consider that. I think I'm going to add an extra SSD with Windows 10 (I'm only using 7 now) that way I can boot to that if I want to play around with new drivers, ray tracing etc. Its only a matter of time before some huge game comes out that just isn't worth jumping thru the hoops for SLI and 3D. After the small fortune I've spent already, whats another hard drive...
Just bought a Rtx 2080 Ti, I can say it's a monster and the only one how allowing us to (re)play Quantum break in 4k 3D (in fact I replay it in 3200 x 1800 and it looks awesome on my screen) with full options! It's worth it, this game is a master piece in 3D 8)
Just bought a Rtx 2080 Ti, I can say it's a monster and the only one how allowing us to (re)play Quantum break in 4k 3D (in fact I replay it in 3200 x 1800 and it looks awesome on my screen) with full options! It's worth it, this game is a master piece in 3D 8)
[quote="chtiblue"]Just bought a Rtx 2080 Ti, I can say it's a monster and the only one how allowing us to (re)play Quantum break in 4k 3D (in fact I replay it in 3200 x 1800 and it looks awesome on my screen) with full options! It's worth it, this game is a master piece in 3D 8)[/quote]
I deliberated so hard between 2080 NVLINK and a 2080TI. Found some pretty cheap KFA2 2080s on amazon.de. Then the 2080s went up in price, plus I use VR and basically SLI/MGPU/NVLINK is a complete no go for VR, so I have no regrets.
Apart from the 11GB over 8GB and increased memory bandwidth, another thing I noticed in benchmarks is that generally the 2080TI is only 25-30% faster than a 2080, but in some cases the minimum framerates are much better and there are a couple of games where it's 40% faster, dependent on resolution etc.
Anyway, it's a hobby that I love and not all hobbies are cheap, so I decided to suck it up as well :-)
One thing I'd say to OP, is that I'm a bit concerned that CPU might hold you back a bit. Maybe like me you're waiting for the Ryzen 3000 series.
chtiblue said:Just bought a Rtx 2080 Ti, I can say it's a monster and the only one how allowing us to (re)play Quantum break in 4k 3D (in fact I replay it in 3200 x 1800 and it looks awesome on my screen) with full options! It's worth it, this game is a master piece in 3D 8)
I deliberated so hard between 2080 NVLINK and a 2080TI. Found some pretty cheap KFA2 2080s on amazon.de. Then the 2080s went up in price, plus I use VR and basically SLI/MGPU/NVLINK is a complete no go for VR, so I have no regrets.
Apart from the 11GB over 8GB and increased memory bandwidth, another thing I noticed in benchmarks is that generally the 2080TI is only 25-30% faster than a 2080, but in some cases the minimum framerates are much better and there are a couple of games where it's 40% faster, dependent on resolution etc.
Anyway, it's a hobby that I love and not all hobbies are cheap, so I decided to suck it up as well :-)
One thing I'd say to OP, is that I'm a bit concerned that CPU might hold you back a bit. Maybe like me you're waiting for the Ryzen 3000 series.
Gigabyte RTX2080TI Gaming OC, I7-6700k ~ 4.4Ghz, 3x BenQ XL2420T, BenQ TK800, LG 55EG960V (3D OLED), Samsung 850 EVO SSD, Crucial M4 SSD, 3D vision kit, Xpand x104 glasses, Corsair HX1000i, Win 10 pro 64/Win 7 64https://www.3dmark.com/fs/9529310
[quote="rustyk21"]
but in some cases the minimum framerates are much better and there are a couple of games where it's 40% faster, dependent on resolution etc.
[/quote]
Indeed in Quantum Break the minimum fps made an awesome vital jump up
rustyk21 said:
but in some cases the minimum framerates are much better and there are a couple of games where it's 40% faster, dependent on resolution etc.
Indeed in Quantum Break the minimum fps made an awesome vital jump up
I've used SLI until last year in November.
I went on and swapped my 2x980Ti with a single 2080Ti.
From my experience:
- Any game can be made to work in SLI (only real exception here is AC:Origins and Odyssey - but I know why...)
- Making a game in SLI is not hassle free: it takes time to experiment, find the flags (even on different forums and see what works for you!)
- 2D SLI is not the same as 3D SLI : Sometimes you get perfect scaling and no graphical issues in 2D, but in 3D is completely wrong.
- 3D Surround and SLI is the worse case (as you have 3 displays plugged in 2 cards and all displays "pretend" to be one display). I know I am in a minority here, but making 3D Surround SLI was more painful than SLI & Single 3D Monitor!
If you only have 1x3D Monitor and SLI, once working it is pretty straight-forward.
About NVLINK... I don't know too much, but based on my research, NVLINK in CONSUMER GPUs (this means RTX/GTX and NOT Quadro) work in SLI mode, like before.
Don't know how much this helps, but it will give you (hopefully) a bit of understanding of SLI :)
And BTW, welcome to the CLUB! :)
I've used SLI until last year in November.
I went on and swapped my 2x980Ti with a single 2080Ti.
From my experience:
- Any game can be made to work in SLI (only real exception here is AC:Origins and Odyssey - but I know why...)
- Making a game in SLI is not hassle free: it takes time to experiment, find the flags (even on different forums and see what works for you!)
- 2D SLI is not the same as 3D SLI : Sometimes you get perfect scaling and no graphical issues in 2D, but in 3D is completely wrong.
- 3D Surround and SLI is the worse case (as you have 3 displays plugged in 2 cards and all displays "pretend" to be one display). I know I am in a minority here, but making 3D Surround SLI was more painful than SLI & Single 3D Monitor!
If you only have 1x3D Monitor and SLI, once working it is pretty straight-forward.
About NVLINK... I don't know too much, but based on my research, NVLINK in CONSUMER GPUs (this means RTX/GTX and NOT Quadro) work in SLI mode, like before.
Don't know how much this helps, but it will give you (hopefully) a bit of understanding of SLI :)
And BTW, welcome to the CLUB! :)
1x Palit RTX 2080Ti Pro Gaming OC(watercooled and overclocked to hell)
3x 3D Vision Ready Asus VG278HE monitors (5760x1080).
Intel i9 9900K (overclocked to 5.3 and watercooled ofc).
Asus Maximus XI Hero Mobo.
16 GB Team Group T-Force Dark Pro DDR4 @ 3600.
Lots of Disks:
- Raid 0 - 256GB Sandisk Extreme SSD.
- Raid 0 - WD Black - 2TB.
- SanDisk SSD PLUS 480 GB.
- Intel 760p 256GB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD.
Creative Sound Blaster Z.
Windows 10 x64 Pro.
etc
[quote="Captain_Valk"]Oh man I'm glad you mentioned the directx 12 thing. I didn't even consider that. I think I'm going to add an extra SSD with Windows 10 (I'm only using 7 now) that way I can boot to that if I want to play around with new drivers, ray tracing etc. Its only a matter of time before some huge game comes out that just isn't worth jumping thru the hoops for SLI and 3D. After the small fortune I've spent already, whats another hard drive...
Oh goodie something else to order![/quote]
Good thinking regarding adding another drive for a separate OS. Notice how we're all getting you to spend yet more money. :p
Seriously though, it's important to try to remain within your initial budget if at all possible, even though more is usually better. I'll be looking to run a multi-boot rig for different graphics drivers i.e.; (Win7, Win8.1, Linux), in my case. The 1080Ti appeared to have the best price/performance ratio at the time of purchase, and which also suited my budget.
Your mobo's chipset and CPU appear to match up well for a possible x16 x16 NV-Link setup, should you of course ever decide to go for more than one GPU, but as Rustyk21 mentioned, there's always a case to be made for the latest CPUs, along with the potential complexity that comes with SLI, as Helifax said. As with numerous others here, I'm allowing for VR on my new rig too. For me a single 1080Ti will simply have to suffice, whereas anyone with a 2080Ti is obviously in far better shape regarding VR. It's always a compromise, and in the end we all somehow figure out what suits us best.
Captain_Valk said:Oh man I'm glad you mentioned the directx 12 thing. I didn't even consider that. I think I'm going to add an extra SSD with Windows 10 (I'm only using 7 now) that way I can boot to that if I want to play around with new drivers, ray tracing etc. Its only a matter of time before some huge game comes out that just isn't worth jumping thru the hoops for SLI and 3D. After the small fortune I've spent already, whats another hard drive...
Oh goodie something else to order!
Good thinking regarding adding another drive for a separate OS. Notice how we're all getting you to spend yet more money. :p
Seriously though, it's important to try to remain within your initial budget if at all possible, even though more is usually better. I'll be looking to run a multi-boot rig for different graphics drivers i.e.; (Win7, Win8.1, Linux), in my case. The 1080Ti appeared to have the best price/performance ratio at the time of purchase, and which also suited my budget.
Your mobo's chipset and CPU appear to match up well for a possible x16 x16 NV-Link setup, should you of course ever decide to go for more than one GPU, but as Rustyk21 mentioned, there's always a case to be made for the latest CPUs, along with the potential complexity that comes with SLI, as Helifax said. As with numerous others here, I'm allowing for VR on my new rig too. For me a single 1080Ti will simply have to suffice, whereas anyone with a 2080Ti is obviously in far better shape regarding VR. It's always a compromise, and in the end we all somehow figure out what suits us best.
[quote="Helifax"]
- 3D Surround and SLI is the worse case (as you have 3 displays plugged in 2 cards and all displays "pretend" to be one display). I know I am in a minority here, but making 3D Surround SLI was more painful than SLI & Single 3D Monitor!
About NVLINK... I don't know too much, but based on my research, NVLINK in CONSUMER GPUs (this means RTX/GTX and NOT Quadro) work in SLI mode, like before.
[/quote]
As you know we're kind of in the same boat. Well, as consumers.. As far as 3d vision goes you're a great developer with a drive to create solutions, which is way ahead of my skill set :-)
You're right that NVLINK is basically SLI, just with higher bandwidth. According to Nvidia, it's 50GB/s on 2080 and 100 GB/s on 2080TI. I think a high speed SLI bridge is max 2 GB/s, something like that.
Enterprise Nvlink gives full memory pool sharing etc. etc. which we don't get.
So as far as we're concerned, NVLINK is just SLI with higher bandwidth. I think I remember from DSS that in the 3d vision fix for Witcher 3 in particular, SLI bandwidth was really hurting performance so NVLINK is potentially better, but like you say profile issues etc. remain.
This is best thread I've ever found about SLI fixes:
https://www.forum-3dcenter.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=509912&page=171
There are apparently new SLI bits which are just for Turing GPUs.
- 3D Surround and SLI is the worse case (as you have 3 displays plugged in 2 cards and all displays "pretend" to be one display). I know I am in a minority here, but making 3D Surround SLI was more painful than SLI & Single 3D Monitor!
About NVLINK... I don't know too much, but based on my research, NVLINK in CONSUMER GPUs (this means RTX/GTX and NOT Quadro) work in SLI mode, like before.
As you know we're kind of in the same boat. Well, as consumers.. As far as 3d vision goes you're a great developer with a drive to create solutions, which is way ahead of my skill set :-)
You're right that NVLINK is basically SLI, just with higher bandwidth. According to Nvidia, it's 50GB/s on 2080 and 100 GB/s on 2080TI. I think a high speed SLI bridge is max 2 GB/s, something like that.
Enterprise Nvlink gives full memory pool sharing etc. etc. which we don't get.
So as far as we're concerned, NVLINK is just SLI with higher bandwidth. I think I remember from DSS that in the 3d vision fix for Witcher 3 in particular, SLI bandwidth was really hurting performance so NVLINK is potentially better, but like you say profile issues etc. remain.
This is best thread I've ever found about SLI fixes:
[quote="rustyk21"][quote="chtiblue"]Just bought a Rtx 2080 Ti, I can say it's a monster and the only one how allowing us to (re)play Quantum break in 4k 3D (in fact I replay it in 3200 x 1800 and it looks awesome on my screen) with full options! It's worth it, this game is a master piece in 3D 8)[/quote]
I deliberated so hard between 2080 NVLINK and a 2080TI. Found some pretty cheap KFA2 2080s on amazon.de. Then the 2080s went up in price, plus I use VR and basically SLI/MGPU/NVLINK is a complete no go for VR, so I have no regrets.
Apart from the 11GB over 8GB and increased memory bandwidth, another thing I noticed in benchmarks is that generally the 2080TI is only 25-30% faster than a 2080, but in some cases the minimum framerates are much better and there are a couple of games where it's 40% faster, dependent on resolution etc.
Anyway, it's a hobby that I love and not all hobbies are cheap, so I decided to suck it up as well :-)
One thing I'd say to OP, is that I'm a bit concerned that CPU might hold you back a bit. Maybe like me you're waiting for the Ryzen 3000 series.[/quote]
Yeah I went thru the same thing. And yes I am saving the mobo and cpu for last, hoping something better is around the corner.
[quote="Helifax"]I've used SLI until last year in November.
I went on and swapped my 2x980Ti with a single 2080Ti.
From my experience:
- Any game can be made to work in SLI (only real exception here is AC:Origins and Odyssey - but I know why...)
- Making a game in SLI is not hassle free: it takes time to experiment, find the flags (even on different forums and see what works for you!)
- 2D SLI is not the same as 3D SLI : Sometimes you get perfect scaling and no graphical issues in 2D, but in 3D is completely wrong.
- 3D Surround and SLI is the worse case (as you have 3 displays plugged in 2 cards and all displays "pretend" to be one display). I know I am in a minority here, but making 3D Surround SLI was more painful than SLI & Single 3D Monitor!
If you only have 1x3D Monitor and SLI, once working it is pretty straight-forward.
About NVLINK... I don't know too much, but based on my research, NVLINK in CONSUMER GPUs (this means RTX/GTX and NOT Quadro) work in SLI mode, like before.
Don't know how much this helps, but it will give you (hopefully) a bit of understanding of SLI :)
And BTW, welcome to the CLUB! :)
[/quote]
Yeah I only have the one monitor and already have been thru the trauma of SLI by itself. But heck, I'm a glutton for punishment. Besides I stuck with the green team all this time hoping I would eventually have a 3D setup. I wasn't counting on having to take care of my parents (one having a stroke and the other Alzheimers) and Nvidia dropping the whole damn thing. But I'm gonna see it thru anywho.
NVLink from what I've read is the same as SLI but scales a little better.
This really seems like a great community. Thanks everyone for the warm welcome. Look forward to chatting with ya's more!
chtiblue said:Just bought a Rtx 2080 Ti, I can say it's a monster and the only one how allowing us to (re)play Quantum break in 4k 3D (in fact I replay it in 3200 x 1800 and it looks awesome on my screen) with full options! It's worth it, this game is a master piece in 3D 8)
I deliberated so hard between 2080 NVLINK and a 2080TI. Found some pretty cheap KFA2 2080s on amazon.de. Then the 2080s went up in price, plus I use VR and basically SLI/MGPU/NVLINK is a complete no go for VR, so I have no regrets.
Apart from the 11GB over 8GB and increased memory bandwidth, another thing I noticed in benchmarks is that generally the 2080TI is only 25-30% faster than a 2080, but in some cases the minimum framerates are much better and there are a couple of games where it's 40% faster, dependent on resolution etc.
Anyway, it's a hobby that I love and not all hobbies are cheap, so I decided to suck it up as well :-)
One thing I'd say to OP, is that I'm a bit concerned that CPU might hold you back a bit. Maybe like me you're waiting for the Ryzen 3000 series.
Yeah I went thru the same thing. And yes I am saving the mobo and cpu for last, hoping something better is around the corner.
Helifax said:I've used SLI until last year in November.
I went on and swapped my 2x980Ti with a single 2080Ti.
From my experience:
- Any game can be made to work in SLI (only real exception here is AC:Origins and Odyssey - but I know why...)
- Making a game in SLI is not hassle free: it takes time to experiment, find the flags (even on different forums and see what works for you!)
- 2D SLI is not the same as 3D SLI : Sometimes you get perfect scaling and no graphical issues in 2D, but in 3D is completely wrong.
- 3D Surround and SLI is the worse case (as you have 3 displays plugged in 2 cards and all displays "pretend" to be one display). I know I am in a minority here, but making 3D Surround SLI was more painful than SLI & Single 3D Monitor!
If you only have 1x3D Monitor and SLI, once working it is pretty straight-forward.
About NVLINK... I don't know too much, but based on my research, NVLINK in CONSUMER GPUs (this means RTX/GTX and NOT Quadro) work in SLI mode, like before.
Don't know how much this helps, but it will give you (hopefully) a bit of understanding of SLI :)
And BTW, welcome to the CLUB! :)
Yeah I only have the one monitor and already have been thru the trauma of SLI by itself. But heck, I'm a glutton for punishment. Besides I stuck with the green team all this time hoping I would eventually have a 3D setup. I wasn't counting on having to take care of my parents (one having a stroke and the other Alzheimers) and Nvidia dropping the whole damn thing. But I'm gonna see it thru anywho.
NVLink from what I've read is the same as SLI but scales a little better.
This really seems like a great community. Thanks everyone for the warm welcome. Look forward to chatting with ya's more!
Thanks for any help. Been looking forward to 3d gaming for years but just getting around to it now. Great timing eh?
AMD FX9590 @5.2mhz, Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3, RTX2080 FE, Acer Predator XB1 Monitor, Dual Loop water cooled
At a guess, you'll probably get at least 50% better performance with the upgrade. Even more where SLI is problematic.
Regarding drivers, as per all the other threads, you'll be stuck on old drivers if you want 3d vision. But then you'd be stuck on old drivers if you wanted 3d vision regardless of your card, so I'd upgrade just for the better all round performance anyway.
Gigabyte RTX2080TI Gaming OC, I7-6700k ~ 4.4Ghz, 3x BenQ XL2420T, BenQ TK800, LG 55EG960V (3D OLED), Samsung 850 EVO SSD, Crucial M4 SSD, 3D vision kit, Xpand x104 glasses, Corsair HX1000i, Win 10 pro 64/Win 7 64https://www.3dmark.com/fs/9529310
Welcome to the forum. Don't own an RTX2080 myself, but I do recall that there's at least one other forum member who does, and who may be able to offer you a first hand performance guide. I'd probably go for the 2080Ti now, but maybe a possible future 2080 NV-Link setup suits your own budget. A 2080Ti is undoubtedly over-priced, but further on down the line, I reckon you'll be happy with the extra performance it provides.
I'd imagine that you're familiar enough with SLI to know that it can be a rather hit and miss affair. I'm putting together a 1080Ti SLI rig myself, fully aware of which of the games in my library scale sufficiently well on my current rig, so as to justify SLI on a new one. If you do decide to go the 2080 NV-Link route, consider getting a 40 lane CPU at some point, that at least has the potential to maximize your bandwidth via NV-Link. Specific games are known to have incredible performance gains as a result.
Driver 425.31 looks to be the last version that will work with 3D Vision. Once again, it will be hit and miss in the future, with some possible AAA titles requiring the latest driver just to run in 2D, others not. Saying that, the back catalog on http://helixmod.blogspot.com/ is vast. I doubt if any one of us long-time 3D enthusiasts have gotten through even half of what's already been fixed by helixmod's shader-hackers.
Be sure to download '3D Fix Manager' via the tab on the Helixmod site. I can't recommend it highly enough for those new to 3D Vision. Its creator frequents this forum, and I'm sure will be happy to help you out if needed.
LOL! Sure, your timing may not have been perfect, but without a doubt it's most definitely a case of better late than never. Besides, 3D gaming may still continue on in some form, on either a flat screen or a HMD of some kind, but that still remains to be seen.
Good luck with getting it all set up, and I hope that you the enjoy the experience. ;)
Intel Core i7 4770k @ 4.4Ghz, 3x GTX Titan, 16GB Tactical Tracer LED, CPU/GPU Dual-Loop Water-Cooled - Driver 331.82 (Win8.0), Driver 388.71 (Win7), DX11.0
harisukro: "You sir, are 'Steely Eyed Missile Man'" (Quote from Apollo 13)
AMD FX9590 @5.2mhz, Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3, RTX2080 FE, Acer Predator XB1 Monitor, Dual Loop water cooled
also remember that the RTX features (ray tracing and DLSS) won't be usable in 3D DX11, as they are only available for DX12. you will be buying 2080/2080ti strictly for performance (which annoyed me a little when considering buying one since I knew I was overpaying and not even using the RTX features, but was still worth it to me for the great performance in 3D - slave to those 3D FPS that I am).
Oh goodie something else to order!
AMD FX9590 @5.2mhz, Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3, RTX2080 FE, Acer Predator XB1 Monitor, Dual Loop water cooled
http://photos.3dvisionlive.com/chtiblue/album/530b52d4cb85770d6e000049/3Dvision with 55" LG OLED EG920 interlieved 3D (3840x2160) overide mode, GTX 2080 Ti XC Ultra EVGA, core i5 @4.3GHz, 16Gb@2130, windows 7&10 64bit, Dolby Atmos 5.1.4 Marantz 6010 AVR
I deliberated so hard between 2080 NVLINK and a 2080TI. Found some pretty cheap KFA2 2080s on amazon.de. Then the 2080s went up in price, plus I use VR and basically SLI/MGPU/NVLINK is a complete no go for VR, so I have no regrets.
Apart from the 11GB over 8GB and increased memory bandwidth, another thing I noticed in benchmarks is that generally the 2080TI is only 25-30% faster than a 2080, but in some cases the minimum framerates are much better and there are a couple of games where it's 40% faster, dependent on resolution etc.
Anyway, it's a hobby that I love and not all hobbies are cheap, so I decided to suck it up as well :-)
One thing I'd say to OP, is that I'm a bit concerned that CPU might hold you back a bit. Maybe like me you're waiting for the Ryzen 3000 series.
Gigabyte RTX2080TI Gaming OC, I7-6700k ~ 4.4Ghz, 3x BenQ XL2420T, BenQ TK800, LG 55EG960V (3D OLED), Samsung 850 EVO SSD, Crucial M4 SSD, 3D vision kit, Xpand x104 glasses, Corsair HX1000i, Win 10 pro 64/Win 7 64https://www.3dmark.com/fs/9529310
Indeed in Quantum Break the minimum fps made an awesome vital jump up
http://photos.3dvisionlive.com/chtiblue/album/530b52d4cb85770d6e000049/3Dvision with 55" LG OLED EG920 interlieved 3D (3840x2160) overide mode, GTX 2080 Ti XC Ultra EVGA, core i5 @4.3GHz, 16Gb@2130, windows 7&10 64bit, Dolby Atmos 5.1.4 Marantz 6010 AVR
I went on and swapped my 2x980Ti with a single 2080Ti.
From my experience:
- Any game can be made to work in SLI (only real exception here is AC:Origins and Odyssey - but I know why...)
- Making a game in SLI is not hassle free: it takes time to experiment, find the flags (even on different forums and see what works for you!)
- 2D SLI is not the same as 3D SLI : Sometimes you get perfect scaling and no graphical issues in 2D, but in 3D is completely wrong.
- 3D Surround and SLI is the worse case (as you have 3 displays plugged in 2 cards and all displays "pretend" to be one display). I know I am in a minority here, but making 3D Surround SLI was more painful than SLI & Single 3D Monitor!
If you only have 1x3D Monitor and SLI, once working it is pretty straight-forward.
About NVLINK... I don't know too much, but based on my research, NVLINK in CONSUMER GPUs (this means RTX/GTX and NOT Quadro) work in SLI mode, like before.
Don't know how much this helps, but it will give you (hopefully) a bit of understanding of SLI :)
And BTW, welcome to the CLUB! :)
1x Palit RTX 2080Ti Pro Gaming OC(watercooled and overclocked to hell)
3x 3D Vision Ready Asus VG278HE monitors (5760x1080).
Intel i9 9900K (overclocked to 5.3 and watercooled ofc).
Asus Maximus XI Hero Mobo.
16 GB Team Group T-Force Dark Pro DDR4 @ 3600.
Lots of Disks:
- Raid 0 - 256GB Sandisk Extreme SSD.
- Raid 0 - WD Black - 2TB.
- SanDisk SSD PLUS 480 GB.
- Intel 760p 256GB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD.
Creative Sound Blaster Z.
Windows 10 x64 Pro.
etc
My website with my fixes and OpenGL to 3D Vision wrapper:
http://3dsurroundgaming.com
(If you like some of the stuff that I've done and want to donate something, you can do it with PayPal at tavyhome@gmail.com)
Good thinking regarding adding another drive for a separate OS. Notice how we're all getting you to spend yet more money. :p
Seriously though, it's important to try to remain within your initial budget if at all possible, even though more is usually better. I'll be looking to run a multi-boot rig for different graphics drivers i.e.; (Win7, Win8.1, Linux), in my case. The 1080Ti appeared to have the best price/performance ratio at the time of purchase, and which also suited my budget.
Your mobo's chipset and CPU appear to match up well for a possible x16 x16 NV-Link setup, should you of course ever decide to go for more than one GPU, but as Rustyk21 mentioned, there's always a case to be made for the latest CPUs, along with the potential complexity that comes with SLI, as Helifax said. As with numerous others here, I'm allowing for VR on my new rig too. For me a single 1080Ti will simply have to suffice, whereas anyone with a 2080Ti is obviously in far better shape regarding VR. It's always a compromise, and in the end we all somehow figure out what suits us best.
Intel Core i7 4770k @ 4.4Ghz, 3x GTX Titan, 16GB Tactical Tracer LED, CPU/GPU Dual-Loop Water-Cooled - Driver 331.82 (Win8.0), Driver 388.71 (Win7), DX11.0
harisukro: "You sir, are 'Steely Eyed Missile Man'" (Quote from Apollo 13)
As you know we're kind of in the same boat. Well, as consumers.. As far as 3d vision goes you're a great developer with a drive to create solutions, which is way ahead of my skill set :-)
You're right that NVLINK is basically SLI, just with higher bandwidth. According to Nvidia, it's 50GB/s on 2080 and 100 GB/s on 2080TI. I think a high speed SLI bridge is max 2 GB/s, something like that.
Enterprise Nvlink gives full memory pool sharing etc. etc. which we don't get.
So as far as we're concerned, NVLINK is just SLI with higher bandwidth. I think I remember from DSS that in the 3d vision fix for Witcher 3 in particular, SLI bandwidth was really hurting performance so NVLINK is potentially better, but like you say profile issues etc. remain.
This is best thread I've ever found about SLI fixes:
https://www.forum-3dcenter.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=509912&page=171
There are apparently new SLI bits which are just for Turing GPUs.
Gigabyte RTX2080TI Gaming OC, I7-6700k ~ 4.4Ghz, 3x BenQ XL2420T, BenQ TK800, LG 55EG960V (3D OLED), Samsung 850 EVO SSD, Crucial M4 SSD, 3D vision kit, Xpand x104 glasses, Corsair HX1000i, Win 10 pro 64/Win 7 64https://www.3dmark.com/fs/9529310
Yeah I went thru the same thing. And yes I am saving the mobo and cpu for last, hoping something better is around the corner.
Yeah I only have the one monitor and already have been thru the trauma of SLI by itself. But heck, I'm a glutton for punishment. Besides I stuck with the green team all this time hoping I would eventually have a 3D setup. I wasn't counting on having to take care of my parents (one having a stroke and the other Alzheimers) and Nvidia dropping the whole damn thing. But I'm gonna see it thru anywho.
NVLink from what I've read is the same as SLI but scales a little better.
This really seems like a great community. Thanks everyone for the warm welcome. Look forward to chatting with ya's more!
AMD FX9590 @5.2mhz, Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3, RTX2080 FE, Acer Predator XB1 Monitor, Dual Loop water cooled