Philips Easy 3D (passive 3D) - does it work with Nvidia?
Greetings everyone.

I've been planning to buy a 3D TV, for gaming purposes only, but the shutter glasses flicker is almost making my eyes bleed. Philips has a passive 3D technology in their latest 7000 series that uses polarization and polarizer glasses, like 3D in cinema. (I know it's not quite as good as shutter glasses, but I'll take that over eye strain.)

My only concern is, will Nvidia cards support this? It's really done via just interleaving rows, left-right-left, but I'm not sure if Nvidia drivers are aware of such TV technology and can produce the required picture.
Greetings everyone.



I've been planning to buy a 3D TV, for gaming purposes only, but the shutter glasses flicker is almost making my eyes bleed. Philips has a passive 3D technology in their latest 7000 series that uses polarization and polarizer glasses, like 3D in cinema. (I know it's not quite as good as shutter glasses, but I'll take that over eye strain.)



My only concern is, will Nvidia cards support this? It's really done via just interleaving rows, left-right-left, but I'm not sure if Nvidia drivers are aware of such TV technology and can produce the required picture.

#1
Posted 07/30/2011 10:59 PM   
[quote name='Antler' date='30 July 2011 - 05:59 PM' timestamp='1312066780' post='1272843']
Greetings everyone.

I've been planning to buy a 3D TV, for gaming purposes only, but the shutter glasses flicker is almost making my eyes bleed. Philips has a passive 3D technology in their latest 7000 series that uses polarization and polarizer glasses, like 3D in cinema. (I know it's not quite as good as shutter glasses, but I'll take that over eye strain.)

My only concern is, will Nvidia cards support this? It's really done via just interleaving rows, left-right-left, but I'm not sure if Nvidia drivers are aware of such TV technology and can produce the required picture.
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Nvidia developed 3Dtv play that allows you to play PC games on 3D HDtv's. You should check the Nvidia website to see if your model is supported currently.
[quote name='Antler' date='30 July 2011 - 05:59 PM' timestamp='1312066780' post='1272843']

Greetings everyone.



I've been planning to buy a 3D TV, for gaming purposes only, but the shutter glasses flicker is almost making my eyes bleed. Philips has a passive 3D technology in their latest 7000 series that uses polarization and polarizer glasses, like 3D in cinema. (I know it's not quite as good as shutter glasses, but I'll take that over eye strain.)



My only concern is, will Nvidia cards support this? It's really done via just interleaving rows, left-right-left, but I'm not sure if Nvidia drivers are aware of such TV technology and can produce the required picture.





Nvidia developed 3Dtv play that allows you to play PC games on 3D HDtv's. You should check the Nvidia website to see if your model is supported currently.

#2
Posted 07/31/2011 12:45 AM   
Glasses have at least 3 operating modes, depending on what display technology you use, without going into the details, LCD monitors operation is totally different from DLP displays, giving whole different sense of flicker. Also Plasma is nothing like the above two.

Then, shutterglasses tend have dynamic behavior compared to eachother , and we can expect better shutterglasses with zero flicker? Yes.

Experts semm to agree that loosing the spatial detail is not worth it with passive, IMO thats a half baked "technology" and their PR stuff stinks.

Afaik, those are the last Philips brand tellys, the company shut down its TV operations entirely now.
Glasses have at least 3 operating modes, depending on what display technology you use, without going into the details, LCD monitors operation is totally different from DLP displays, giving whole different sense of flicker. Also Plasma is nothing like the above two.



Then, shutterglasses tend have dynamic behavior compared to eachother , and we can expect better shutterglasses with zero flicker? Yes.



Experts semm to agree that loosing the spatial detail is not worth it with passive, IMO thats a half baked "technology" and their PR stuff stinks.



Afaik, those are the last Philips brand tellys, the company shut down its TV operations entirely now.

#3
Posted 07/31/2011 06:38 AM   
Well, I can always buy a new TV once they perfect autostereoscopy, can't buy a new pair of eyes. Shutter glasses are definitely not the way forward either, same issue as CRT monitors with low refresh rates; probably fine for a movie or two, but I'd better not take the risk gaming that way all the time. Anyway, it's just a personal choice, I won't push it, I just don't like current generation shutter technology, and the next generation will require all new equipment with either technology.

Plasma rocks, have to agree, but weight, power consumption, heat, burn-in, all present an issue. I actually picked Philips for picture quality (in aspects that concern me), having passive 3D (for those two or three 3D movies that do exist) is just an extra. As for their future, they're just splitting-merging their TV business into Philips-TPV.
Well, I can always buy a new TV once they perfect autostereoscopy, can't buy a new pair of eyes. Shutter glasses are definitely not the way forward either, same issue as CRT monitors with low refresh rates; probably fine for a movie or two, but I'd better not take the risk gaming that way all the time. Anyway, it's just a personal choice, I won't push it, I just don't like current generation shutter technology, and the next generation will require all new equipment with either technology.



Plasma rocks, have to agree, but weight, power consumption, heat, burn-in, all present an issue. I actually picked Philips for picture quality (in aspects that concern me), having passive 3D (for those two or three 3D movies that do exist) is just an extra. As for their future, they're just splitting-merging their TV business into Philips-TPV.

#4
Posted 07/31/2011 01:49 PM   
I call this *passive 3D confirmation bias*
thanks for another recorded case, try get off it

/haha.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':haha:' />

ps.: hopefully the future of 3d is brighter than plasma sets /ermm.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':ermm:' />
I call this *passive 3D confirmation bias*

thanks for another recorded case, try get off it



/haha.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':haha:' />



ps.: hopefully the future of 3d is brighter than plasma sets /ermm.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':ermm:' />

#5
Posted 07/31/2011 07:06 PM   
I don't even have that TV yet, it's just something I'm considering, depending on whether Nvidia 3d supports it.
Anyway, I checked it and it seems to be on the list.

My other choice, that one using conventional shutter 3D, is Philips 8505. But it doesn't seem to be on the 3dtv-play supported models list. Is that a definite "no" to nvidia 3D support?
A related 8605 series is on the list, but I'm not sure if the driver can potentially recognize it, or if it can only work with exact models listed.
I don't even have that TV yet, it's just something I'm considering, depending on whether Nvidia 3d supports it.

Anyway, I checked it and it seems to be on the list.



My other choice, that one using conventional shutter 3D, is Philips 8505. But it doesn't seem to be on the 3dtv-play supported models list. Is that a definite "no" to nvidia 3D support?

A related 8605 series is on the list, but I'm not sure if the driver can potentially recognize it, or if it can only work with exact models listed.

#6
Posted 08/01/2011 12:27 AM   
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