OH NO! NO 3D VISION SUPPORT FOR CALL OF DUTY MODERN WARFARE 3 EITHER is this a joke???
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[quote name='helifax' date='11 November 2011 - 02:47 AM' timestamp='1320976027' post='1324159']
Hmm..

I think this should fix the thing for you...I don't know if applies to single monitors or multimonitors setups only:
[url="http://widescreengamingforum.com/dr/call-duty-modern-warfare-3/en"]http://widescreengamingforum.com/dr/call-duty-modern-warfare-3/en[/url]

Best Regards,
Helifax
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Thanks buddy, I'll try that once I get home. I just don't get this widescreen fixer, does it change the fov values, making it more PC like instead of consoles??? If so, it's a good fix, but I don't understand how this could disable the 2D crosshair, maybe it's the plugin that you also need to download. Anyway, I'll try the fix and see if it works.
[quote name='helifax' date='11 November 2011 - 02:47 AM' timestamp='1320976027' post='1324159']

Hmm..



I think this should fix the thing for you...I don't know if applies to single monitors or multimonitors setups only:

http://widescreengamingforum.com/dr/call-duty-modern-warfare-3/en



Best Regards,

Helifax





Thanks buddy, I'll try that once I get home. I just don't get this widescreen fixer, does it change the fov values, making it more PC like instead of consoles??? If so, it's a good fix, but I don't understand how this could disable the 2D crosshair, maybe it's the plugin that you also need to download. Anyway, I'll try the fix and see if it works.

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#16
Posted 11/11/2011 08:24 PM   
As a long time user of the old Edimensional glasses, I lost 3d capability when I bought an LCD monitor a few years ago. I loved my 3d even though I had to piss about with settings etc to get it to work with a lot of games.
When 3d Vision came out that claimed solid support for 3d and many games '3d Ready', my interest was peaked again. Now older and wiser, but with less patience, I looked forward to having 3d WITHOUT having to piss about with settings. I thought that 3d Vision would have major support.

I was wrong. Support is STILL pretty piss poor and my glasses are more ususally gathering dust than perched on my nose. My faith in 3d support is severely floundering and I read with amusement, the news about 3dVision2 and 3DLightboost. An improvement with the technology but with the same piss poor support when your wallet has been emptied.

It is no wonder that the general public believe 3d to be a cheap gimmick as that is EXACTLY what it appears to be since I bought my 3dVision.
As a long time user of the old Edimensional glasses, I lost 3d capability when I bought an LCD monitor a few years ago. I loved my 3d even though I had to piss about with settings etc to get it to work with a lot of games.

When 3d Vision came out that claimed solid support for 3d and many games '3d Ready', my interest was peaked again. Now older and wiser, but with less patience, I looked forward to having 3d WITHOUT having to piss about with settings. I thought that 3d Vision would have major support.



I was wrong. Support is STILL pretty piss poor and my glasses are more ususally gathering dust than perched on my nose. My faith in 3d support is severely floundering and I read with amusement, the news about 3dVision2 and 3DLightboost. An improvement with the technology but with the same piss poor support when your wallet has been emptied.



It is no wonder that the general public believe 3d to be a cheap gimmick as that is EXACTLY what it appears to be since I bought my 3dVision.

#17
Posted 11/12/2011 01:38 PM   
[quote name='francomg' date='10 November 2011 - 11:46 AM' timestamp='1320950774' post='1323838']

I also realized that you see different brightness settings in the glasses lens, like you can notiice a scene is darker in the left lens and brighter in the right lens, very weird and bothers your sight while playing.

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This is a severe bug in BF3 in 3D. Medal of Honor 2010 had the same bug, but it was fixable, you just turned down the shaders all the way. There is no shader control in BF3 so for me, it's unplayable in 3D. The developer is ignoring 3D so I won't be buying this game. Check out the bug in the attachment.
[quote name='francomg' date='10 November 2011 - 11:46 AM' timestamp='1320950774' post='1323838']



I also realized that you see different brightness settings in the glasses lens, like you can notiice a scene is darker in the left lens and brighter in the right lens, very weird and bothers your sight while playing.





This is a severe bug in BF3 in 3D. Medal of Honor 2010 had the same bug, but it was fixable, you just turned down the shaders all the way. There is no shader control in BF3 so for me, it's unplayable in 3D. The developer is ignoring 3D so I won't be buying this game. Check out the bug in the attachment.
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#18
Posted 11/12/2011 07:17 PM   
[quote name='M4verick' date='09 November 2011 - 11:25 AM' timestamp='1320866705' post='1323095']
I didn't say anything when BF3 was released but this is beyond my patience. Really.
I always play only campaigns and don't use multiplayer at all. Simply don't like it so i hate to wait for any patches. Ones i finish campaign i never go back to the game. A year ago purchased nVidia 3D Vision and waited especially for my two favorite titles. BF3 ($60) and COD-MW3 another ($60). At first i could not believe there's no 3D vision support in BF3 at the release date but i said to myself well ok i can forget it since new Call of Duty is just behind the corner. And now what did i just learned?!?!? No 3D nVidia vision support in this game either!!!!! Are You serious????!!! I'm so disappointed. Really. Second and biggest game of the year won't work in 3D?!?! I really can't believe how nVidia let this happen. I know it's not their fault from technical point of view but since they sold so much 3D equipment to us should they put some more pressure on games developers???? Come on nVidia! We spent good amount of money to play these games in 3D! Yes mainly BF3 and COFMW3 not super mario or other weird titles. We want to be able to play blockbusters! That's why we all bought this equipment for. How many days before release dates did You know already that both games won't work in 3D? I was so upset with BF3 couple of weeks ago when i find out it won't work in 3D. Of course i already paid for it then and now i have the same exactly issue. I would never ever expect that CODMW3 won't work in 3D either until i purchased it. Very disappointed! Extremely disappointed! NVidia does this mean we won't be able to play blockbusters ever again at release date???? I don't want to wait again and again for patches. I finish BF3 campaign few days ago in 2D because i couldn't wait any longer. I can't explain my pain. I'm sure i'm not the only one here. This is really beyond everything...
...very sad FPS gamer...and until today fan of 3D Vision...
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Have you posted something like this on the MW3 tech support forums? If not, why not?
[quote name='M4verick' date='09 November 2011 - 11:25 AM' timestamp='1320866705' post='1323095']

I didn't say anything when BF3 was released but this is beyond my patience. Really.

I always play only campaigns and don't use multiplayer at all. Simply don't like it so i hate to wait for any patches. Ones i finish campaign i never go back to the game. A year ago purchased nVidia 3D Vision and waited especially for my two favorite titles. BF3 ($60) and COD-MW3 another ($60). At first i could not believe there's no 3D vision support in BF3 at the release date but i said to myself well ok i can forget it since new Call of Duty is just behind the corner. And now what did i just learned?!?!? No 3D nVidia vision support in this game either!!!!! Are You serious????!!! I'm so disappointed. Really. Second and biggest game of the year won't work in 3D?!?! I really can't believe how nVidia let this happen. I know it's not their fault from technical point of view but since they sold so much 3D equipment to us should they put some more pressure on games developers???? Come on nVidia! We spent good amount of money to play these games in 3D! Yes mainly BF3 and COFMW3 not super mario or other weird titles. We want to be able to play blockbusters! That's why we all bought this equipment for. How many days before release dates did You know already that both games won't work in 3D? I was so upset with BF3 couple of weeks ago when i find out it won't work in 3D. Of course i already paid for it then and now i have the same exactly issue. I would never ever expect that CODMW3 won't work in 3D either until i purchased it. Very disappointed! Extremely disappointed! NVidia does this mean we won't be able to play blockbusters ever again at release date???? I don't want to wait again and again for patches. I finish BF3 campaign few days ago in 2D because i couldn't wait any longer. I can't explain my pain. I'm sure i'm not the only one here. This is really beyond everything...

...very sad FPS gamer...and until today fan of 3D Vision...





Have you posted something like this on the MW3 tech support forums? If not, why not?

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#19
Posted 11/12/2011 10:06 PM   
[quote name='roller11' date='12 November 2011 - 02:17 PM' timestamp='1321125444' post='1325238']
This is a severe bug in BF3 in 3D. Medal of Honor 2010 had the same bug, but it was fixable, you just turned down the shaders all the way. There is no shader control in BF3 so for me, it's unplayable in 3D. The developer is ignoring 3D so I won't be buying this game. Check out the bug in the attachment.
[/quote]

Roller

There are many posts under the BF3 thread in which I have stated the developer is working on a patch.
[quote name='roller11' date='12 November 2011 - 02:17 PM' timestamp='1321125444' post='1325238']

This is a severe bug in BF3 in 3D. Medal of Honor 2010 had the same bug, but it was fixable, you just turned down the shaders all the way. There is no shader control in BF3 so for me, it's unplayable in 3D. The developer is ignoring 3D so I won't be buying this game. Check out the bug in the attachment.





Roller



There are many posts under the BF3 thread in which I have stated the developer is working on a patch.

#20
Posted 11/13/2011 02:25 AM   
quite pathetic form Nvidia side for me...

Ok... no BF3 3d vision... ok I could swallow that as Im playing it for MP, anyway I would need to invest for gtx 580 to play it maxed in 3d...

But MW3.... i meen, c'mon guys, just borrowed that repetition game from my friend, as I wont buy it, to play campain, and found out 3d visions not working... dissapointing, its like a slap in the face from devs and nvidia to us buying glasses, monitors and projectors to support 3d solutions in the future. In this year, and seeing how 3d vision supports games, Im asking myself why did I spend almost 1000 £ for monitor, projector and glasses, for something that doesnt work properly ;/ ... c'mon its like my 2cnd PC just to see that mess with blockbusters this year...

2nd thing being that almost every game at launch doesnt have SLI profile ?? WTF?
or to play a game like bf3 properly u need to change drivers every week like 285.38 beta (before bf3 lunch... crap), then 285.62 (doesnt do the job), and now 285.79 (which doesnt fixed most of important glitches) = and all of that in 1 month period... lol.

Thats why people goin for other (and mostly cheeper) solutions...
and thanks to them (like tridef), not Nvidia, we can play games like Modern Warfare 3 in beautiful 3d /wink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' />
quite pathetic form Nvidia side for me...



Ok... no BF3 3d vision... ok I could swallow that as Im playing it for MP, anyway I would need to invest for gtx 580 to play it maxed in 3d...



But MW3.... i meen, c'mon guys, just borrowed that repetition game from my friend, as I wont buy it, to play campain, and found out 3d visions not working... dissapointing, its like a slap in the face from devs and nvidia to us buying glasses, monitors and projectors to support 3d solutions in the future. In this year, and seeing how 3d vision supports games, Im asking myself why did I spend almost 1000 £ for monitor, projector and glasses, for something that doesnt work properly ;/ ... c'mon its like my 2cnd PC just to see that mess with blockbusters this year...



2nd thing being that almost every game at launch doesnt have SLI profile ?? WTF?

or to play a game like bf3 properly u need to change drivers every week like 285.38 beta (before bf3 lunch... crap), then 285.62 (doesnt do the job), and now 285.79 (which doesnt fixed most of important glitches) = and all of that in 1 month period... lol.



Thats why people goin for other (and mostly cheeper) solutions...

and thanks to them (like tridef), not Nvidia, we can play games like Modern Warfare 3 in beautiful 3d /wink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' />

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#21
Posted 11/13/2011 04:35 PM   
In what way is TriDef cheaper than nVidia?
In what way is TriDef cheaper than nVidia?

#22
Posted 11/13/2011 07:19 PM   
^^^^

I would guess that its cheaper because it works.

$500 for nonworking solution= worthless $$$$
$$$ for working solution = does not matter the price, it has value which makes it cheaper

I agree that 3d vision seems to have stagnated, not even a hope for proper 3d support for most new title release dates. Before (2 years ago) you could at least hope for it but that is now gone. The world they painted of profiles for all newest/greatest titles has not materialized. For the latest while 3d vision has taken a step backwords (games wise) from what was advertised would be the experiance you would recive.

I dont bitch alot about it, blurb here and there nowadays as ive found many other ways to use 3d vision beyond gaming...making 3d pics anyone? and i still have some of my fav core games that seem to support 3d vision pretty good too. I think laying off nvidia would be unwise at this point, more bitching is needed if anything. Im not going to say its nvidias fault for less than perfect 3d or all 3d vision issues but they are a major stakeholder and as such can be motivated to put pressure on devs. 3d support in any fashion imo will not be fully realized untill glasses free screens are the norm.
^^^^



I would guess that its cheaper because it works.



$500 for nonworking solution= worthless $$$$

$$$ for working solution = does not matter the price, it has value which makes it cheaper



I agree that 3d vision seems to have stagnated, not even a hope for proper 3d support for most new title release dates. Before (2 years ago) you could at least hope for it but that is now gone. The world they painted of profiles for all newest/greatest titles has not materialized. For the latest while 3d vision has taken a step backwords (games wise) from what was advertised would be the experiance you would recive.



I dont bitch alot about it, blurb here and there nowadays as ive found many other ways to use 3d vision beyond gaming...making 3d pics anyone? and i still have some of my fav core games that seem to support 3d vision pretty good too. I think laying off nvidia would be unwise at this point, more bitching is needed if anything. Im not going to say its nvidias fault for less than perfect 3d or all 3d vision issues but they are a major stakeholder and as such can be motivated to put pressure on devs. 3d support in any fashion imo will not be fully realized untill glasses free screens are the norm.
#23
Posted 11/13/2011 07:44 PM   
[quote name='Grestorn' date='13 November 2011 - 07:19 PM' timestamp='1321211987' post='1325784']
In what way is TriDef cheaper than nVidia?
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Sorry, maybe not cheeper from start, but since uve got 3d vision....
[quote name='Grestorn' date='13 November 2011 - 07:19 PM' timestamp='1321211987' post='1325784']

In what way is TriDef cheaper than nVidia?





Sorry, maybe not cheeper from start, but since uve got 3d vision....

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#24
Posted 11/13/2011 08:05 PM   
Game support is mostly determined by the developers. NVIDIA can make some tweaks with their driver profiles but most of it has to come from the developers. These developers are not interested in 3D. Why? Best to ask them but I would guess that they've already got an engine that's selling millions. Why screw around with it to make a few thousand PC users happy? Even a few tens of thousands?

They are talking about making new XBox ans PlayStation. That should pull a new graphics engine out of them. You'll likely get some 3D then.

There's similar going on over on the RPG side. Mass Effect's 3D is pretty weak. Bethesda doesn't care squat about 3D, we're just lucky that what they've been doing happens to work well. But when you look at franchises that have built knew engines, like The Witcher, you start finding much better 3D support.

tldr version: quit playing old console games and you'll see better 3D.
Game support is mostly determined by the developers. NVIDIA can make some tweaks with their driver profiles but most of it has to come from the developers. These developers are not interested in 3D. Why? Best to ask them but I would guess that they've already got an engine that's selling millions. Why screw around with it to make a few thousand PC users happy? Even a few tens of thousands?



They are talking about making new XBox ans PlayStation. That should pull a new graphics engine out of them. You'll likely get some 3D then.



There's similar going on over on the RPG side. Mass Effect's 3D is pretty weak. Bethesda doesn't care squat about 3D, we're just lucky that what they've been doing happens to work well. But when you look at franchises that have built knew engines, like The Witcher, you start finding much better 3D support.



tldr version: quit playing old console games and you'll see better 3D.

#25
Posted 11/13/2011 08:06 PM   
[quote name='Zloth' date='13 November 2011 - 12:06 PM' timestamp='1321214793' post='1325811']
Game support is mostly determined by the developers. NVIDIA can make some tweaks with their driver profiles but most of it has to come from the developers. These developers are not interested in 3D.
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Which is why you MW3 guys need to be on the MW3 forums making threads about 3D so they know what your experiencing and that you care.

[quote]
Mass Effect's 3D is pretty weak.
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Im absolutely loving Mass Effect 1 on the PC right now. Using Tridef though, but Nvidia was in 3D fine too, just didn't allow for AA or recording for some reason. It is full 3D, not like Dues Ex or Crysis 2. SBS with 8xAA makes for some amazing visuals.
[quote name='Zloth' date='13 November 2011 - 12:06 PM' timestamp='1321214793' post='1325811']

Game support is mostly determined by the developers. NVIDIA can make some tweaks with their driver profiles but most of it has to come from the developers. These developers are not interested in 3D.



Which is why you MW3 guys need to be on the MW3 forums making threads about 3D so they know what your experiencing and that you care.





Mass Effect's 3D is pretty weak.





Im absolutely loving Mass Effect 1 on the PC right now. Using Tridef though, but Nvidia was in 3D fine too, just didn't allow for AA or recording for some reason. It is full 3D, not like Dues Ex or Crysis 2. SBS with 8xAA makes for some amazing visuals.

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#26
Posted 11/13/2011 09:15 PM   
[quote name='cravinmild' date='13 November 2011 - 08:44 PM' timestamp='1321213477' post='1325798']
^^^^

I would guess that its cheaper because it works.[/QUOTE]So it works with MW3? Well, fine, then why don't you use it to play the game? You can use DDD with 3DVision just fine, you know.

[quote name='cravinmild' date='13 November 2011 - 08:44 PM' timestamp='1321213477' post='1325798']
$500 for nonworking solution= worthless $$
$$ for working solution = does not matter the price, it has value which makes it cheaper[/quote]If that would be true for all games in all situations, I'd agree. But since that's not the case...

[quote name='cravinmild' date='13 November 2011 - 08:44 PM' timestamp='1321213477' post='1325798']
I agree that 3d vision seems to have stagnated, not even a hope for proper 3d support for most new title release dates. Before (2 years ago) you could at least hope for it but that is now gone. The world they painted of profiles for all newest/greatest titles has not materialized. For the latest while 3d vision has taken a step backwords (games wise) from what was advertised would be the experiance you would recive.[/quote]

Ah, I see... Then the support of Witcher 2, Batman: AC, Sonic and eventually even BF3 must have been a dream...


[quote name='cravinmild' date='13 November 2011 - 08:44 PM' timestamp='1321213477' post='1325798']
3d support in any fashion imo will not be fully realized untill glasses free screens are the norm.
[/quote]

The disadvantage of a glass free display are just too big. Only one viewer, you have to stay put and not move an inch, reduced resolution...

I wouldn't count on anything in that area any time soon. At least nothing that's actually preferrable to anything with glasses.
[quote name='cravinmild' date='13 November 2011 - 08:44 PM' timestamp='1321213477' post='1325798']

^^^^



I would guess that its cheaper because it works.[/QUOTE]So it works with MW3? Well, fine, then why don't you use it to play the game? You can use DDD with 3DVision just fine, you know.



[quote name='cravinmild' date='13 November 2011 - 08:44 PM' timestamp='1321213477' post='1325798']

$500 for nonworking solution= worthless $$

$$ for working solution = does not matter the price, it has value which makes it cheaperIf that would be true for all games in all situations, I'd agree. But since that's not the case...



[quote name='cravinmild' date='13 November 2011 - 08:44 PM' timestamp='1321213477' post='1325798']

I agree that 3d vision seems to have stagnated, not even a hope for proper 3d support for most new title release dates. Before (2 years ago) you could at least hope for it but that is now gone. The world they painted of profiles for all newest/greatest titles has not materialized. For the latest while 3d vision has taken a step backwords (games wise) from what was advertised would be the experiance you would recive.



Ah, I see... Then the support of Witcher 2, Batman: AC, Sonic and eventually even BF3 must have been a dream...





[quote name='cravinmild' date='13 November 2011 - 08:44 PM' timestamp='1321213477' post='1325798']

3d support in any fashion imo will not be fully realized untill glasses free screens are the norm.





The disadvantage of a glass free display are just too big. Only one viewer, you have to stay put and not move an inch, reduced resolution...



I wouldn't count on anything in that area any time soon. At least nothing that's actually preferrable to anything with glasses.

#27
Posted 11/13/2011 09:21 PM   
[quote name='Myosh' date='13 November 2011 - 09:05 PM' timestamp='1321214750' post='1325810']
Sorry, maybe not cheeper from start, but since uve got 3d vision....
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So it's actually the more expensive solution. You pay money for them creating profiles. So what are you complaining about?

Especially since I don't see TriDef being better in general. Most games are working just fine with 3DVision (or they're not working any better with TriDef either). There are exceptions, of course.

It's a nice peace of software, granted, but I don't see any reason to bash 3DVision just because there's another team out there working on profiles. Isn't that just better for the customer? Competition and all? And even the option for us 3DVision users to also benefit from TriDef's software?
[quote name='Myosh' date='13 November 2011 - 09:05 PM' timestamp='1321214750' post='1325810']

Sorry, maybe not cheeper from start, but since uve got 3d vision....





So it's actually the more expensive solution. You pay money for them creating profiles. So what are you complaining about?



Especially since I don't see TriDef being better in general. Most games are working just fine with 3DVision (or they're not working any better with TriDef either). There are exceptions, of course.



It's a nice peace of software, granted, but I don't see any reason to bash 3DVision just because there's another team out there working on profiles. Isn't that just better for the customer? Competition and all? And even the option for us 3DVision users to also benefit from TriDef's software?

#28
Posted 11/13/2011 09:26 PM   
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