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[quote="joker18"]I don't know which Edid you applied but if it is the one I made, It was done by merging my original edid From my 55UC970 with a Acer edid.
Perhaps the solution would be for you to apply the Acer extension to your receiver Edid?[/quote]
I see the link to use Monitor Asset Manager to extract the INF, but not sure exactly where to go from there. Which Acer edid did you use and which portions of it did you apply to your TV's EDID? Thanks,
joker18 said:I don't know which Edid you applied but if it is the one I made, It was done by merging my original edid From my 55UC970 with a Acer edid.
Perhaps the solution would be for you to apply the Acer extension to your receiver Edid?
I see the link to use Monitor Asset Manager to extract the INF, but not sure exactly where to go from there. Which Acer edid did you use and which portions of it did you apply to your TV's EDID? Thanks,
Have you tried your EDID unaltered? Like I posted above, Nvidia may have added additional capabilities to 3DTV Play. You might have 4K support without needing an EDID override.
The extension block (bytes 127-256), which is the second half of the EDID is the portion that contains the Audio capabilities. It also contains multiple native resolutions and stereoscopic capabilities in later versions. The only problem might be the display id. In early versions, it was in the first data block (there wasn't a second data block). In newer revisions, the display id can be in the first, second or both data blocks.
Note: data byte 126 must be 01, if it's 00, the extension is not flagged and is disabled.
Also the first byte in the data block is considered zero, so the second one is considered #1 and the third is #2, etc...
Have you tried your EDID unaltered? Like I posted above, Nvidia may have added additional capabilities to 3DTV Play. You might have 4K support without needing an EDID override.
The extension block (bytes 127-256), which is the second half of the EDID is the portion that contains the Audio capabilities. It also contains multiple native resolutions and stereoscopic capabilities in later versions. The only problem might be the display id. In early versions, it was in the first data block (there wasn't a second data block). In newer revisions, the display id can be in the first, second or both data blocks.
Note: data byte 126 must be 01, if it's 00, the extension is not flagged and is disabled.
Also the first byte in the data block is considered zero, so the second one is considered #1 and the third is #2, etc...
[quote="whyme466"]I also have Sony XBR X900A - no, the joker18 EDID mod will NOT work with this Sony set (see prior discussions in this topic thread). Note that X900A is not fully HDMI 2.0 compliant - it only supports interleaved 3840x2160 @30fps (not 60fps). innuendo1231b created an experimental EDID for this set (thanks, effort is appreciated), but I could not get it to work. Later Sony models migrated to active display, not passive 3D display (different display timing for active vs passive TVs).quote]
Whyme466, have you done the firmware update for the 900A? Sony provided an update quite some time ago to provide HDMI 2.0 support (4K 60Hz) on all HDMI inputs, and HDCP 2.2 compliance on input 4 (some earlier production runs need a free hardware HDMI port swap for this).
I guess I will try it out myself once my PC is put together. I'd love to try some Dolphin emulator stuff in 3D.
whyme466 said:I also have Sony XBR X900A - no, the joker18 EDID mod will NOT work with this Sony set (see prior discussions in this topic thread). Note that X900A is not fully HDMI 2.0 compliant - it only supports interleaved 3840x2160 @30fps (not 60fps). innuendo1231b created an experimental EDID for this set (thanks, effort is appreciated), but I could not get it to work. Later Sony models migrated to active display, not passive 3D display (different display timing for active vs passive TVs).quote]
Whyme466, have you done the firmware update for the 900A? Sony provided an update quite some time ago to provide HDMI 2.0 support (4K 60Hz) on all HDMI inputs, and HDCP 2.2 compliance on input 4 (some earlier production runs need a free hardware HDMI port swap for this).
I guess I will try it out myself once my PC is put together. I'd love to try some Dolphin emulator stuff in 3D.
hi guys!
Since half a year I am very (very!) happy with my passive LG 55UC970V connected via HDMI 2.0 (18gbps) to GTX980Ti using the EDID-mod from joker18 (thx again!) he specially made for the UC970V.
Sitting nearly 5-6feet! away from the screen its nearly ghosting free…I can say its perfect ;-)
Now I have a Panasonic TX43CXW754 (Passive 4K, HDMI2.0) to test with exact the same config I described above. (I only disconnected the LG and connected the new Pana and reinstalled the EDID-mod from joker18).
With the same viewing distance and angle (proportional from 55" to 43") with the Panasonic I have much more ghosting/crosstalk than with the LG! Not extreme, but more than enough to return the TV back to the supplier. I also tried the original EDID-mod from innuendo and every TV-setting (contrast, brightness, etc., game-mode, 4:4:4, 4:2:0, RGB, etc.) to improve ghosting/crosstalk-performance but I had no luck.
My question is:
Actually I am not skilled in making and understanding the edid-mod-things. Is there a chance to improve the ghosting-performance from this TV with a special edid-mod specially made for the TV-model? (like the special mod for my LG 55UC970V from joker18)?
Thx for any help!
And thx again to the modders who gave us 4K 3D on the big screen! :))
Since half a year I am very (very!) happy with my passive LG 55UC970V connected via HDMI 2.0 (18gbps) to GTX980Ti using the EDID-mod from joker18 (thx again!) he specially made for the UC970V.
Sitting nearly 5-6feet! away from the screen its nearly ghosting free…I can say its perfect ;-)
Now I have a Panasonic TX43CXW754 (Passive 4K, HDMI2.0) to test with exact the same config I described above. (I only disconnected the LG and connected the new Pana and reinstalled the EDID-mod from joker18).
With the same viewing distance and angle (proportional from 55" to 43") with the Panasonic I have much more ghosting/crosstalk than with the LG! Not extreme, but more than enough to return the TV back to the supplier. I also tried the original EDID-mod from innuendo and every TV-setting (contrast, brightness, etc., game-mode, 4:4:4, 4:2:0, RGB, etc.) to improve ghosting/crosstalk-performance but I had no luck.
My question is:
Actually I am not skilled in making and understanding the edid-mod-things. Is there a chance to improve the ghosting-performance from this TV with a special edid-mod specially made for the TV-model? (like the special mod for my LG 55UC970V from joker18)?
Thx for any help!
And thx again to the modders who gave us 4K 3D on the big screen! :))
HI,
I'm not an expert, It was just trial en error for me until I got what I needed.(reading tutorials in between)
I think the Edid might improve crosstalk because normally it should have detailed information about the device.
If image is not perfectly aligned with the polarized filter you have ghosting or in worst case no 3D.
So It is possible that the Panasonic was not faulty but the the Edid was not Ok for it.
HI,
I'm not an expert, It was just trial en error for me until I got what I needed.(reading tutorials in between)
I think the Edid might improve crosstalk because normally it should have detailed information about the device.
If image is not perfectly aligned with the polarized filter you have ghosting or in worst case no 3D.
So It is possible that the Panasonic was not faulty but the the Edid was not Ok for it.
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I've also noticed that when my TV goes into 3D mode the crosstalk is reduced. Since the EDID hack or Tridef on line interleaved don't actually put the TV into 3D mode, the crosstalk is increased. One thing I've found that reduces it is to play around with the convergence/depth settings to find a sweet spot where there's minimal crosstalk but good depth.
I've also noticed that when my TV goes into 3D mode the crosstalk is reduced. Since the EDID hack or Tridef on line interleaved don't actually put the TV into 3D mode, the crosstalk is increased. One thing I've found that reduces it is to play around with the convergence/depth settings to find a sweet spot where there's minimal crosstalk but good depth.
It is important to use 3840x2160 and not 4096x2160 as desktop resolution.
Second thing:if i play with the 3d buton and then turn off 3d i have ghosting in native resolution and need to restart tv to get rid of it.
3rd. If Uhd is not on you get colorbug.
It is important to use 3840x2160 and not 4096x2160 as desktop resolution.
Second thing:if i play with the 3d buton and then turn off 3d i have ghosting in native resolution and need to restart tv to get rid of it.
3rd. If Uhd is not on you get colorbug.
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The TV only goes into 3D Mode when a framepacked hdmi1.4 signal is recieved (3D TV Play). In interleaved mode (passive..optimized for geforce experience) the TV must not activate any 3D procesing function, or do I missunderstand something?
Further more on this TV there is no 3D Button, only the 3D settings in the menu, which are all greyed-out in "passive/optimized-for-geforce-experience-mode"? (Strange thing is that I cannot activate SBS/TB-modes manually, they are also greyed out..but thats another story)
I also tried and played around with converg/depth settings..but no improvement.
yes I use 3840x2160 and there is no UHD-mode setting in the TV!? There is a function called „4K Pure Direct“, when switched on I get 4:4:4 in 3840x2160/60.
@joker18
when I manage to export the original edid from the panasonic, is there an (easy) way to merge the important 3D infos from your or innuendos edid-mod into it?
The TV only goes into 3D Mode when a framepacked hdmi1.4 signal is recieved (3D TV Play). In interleaved mode (passive..optimized for geforce experience) the TV must not activate any 3D procesing function, or do I missunderstand something?
Further more on this TV there is no 3D Button, only the 3D settings in the menu, which are all greyed-out in "passive/optimized-for-geforce-experience-mode"? (Strange thing is that I cannot activate SBS/TB-modes manually, they are also greyed out..but thats another story)
I also tried and played around with converg/depth settings..but no improvement.
yes I use 3840x2160 and there is no UHD-mode setting in the TV!? There is a function called „4K Pure Direct“, when switched on I get 4:4:4 in 3840x2160/60.
@joker18
when I manage to export the original edid from the panasonic, is there an (easy) way to merge the important 3D infos from your or innuendos edid-mod into it?
It shouldn't be diffcult.
If I remember correctly you just open the original Edid (saved in bin format) with Moninfo click file->Merge extension block with inf-> select inf of acer or other supported monitor. Save and then create inf.
http://3dvision-blog.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=2025
It shouldn't be diffcult.
If I remember correctly you just open the original Edid (saved in bin format) with Moninfo click file->Merge extension block with inf-> select inf of acer or other supported monitor. Save and then create inf.
thx for your tips! .. did the following:
1.installed moninfo
2.uninstalled all monitor drivers and registry-entries under ..ENUM/DISPLAY/..
3.reboot with only the Panasonic TV connected to hdmi (3d vision says "3D TV Play" again and monitor driver in device manager says "PnP Monitor (Standard)" again)
4.started moninfo and made a bin-file and inf-file (pana.bin/inf) from the original? MEIA296(=Panasonic TV) [Real-Time 0x...]
5.loaded the bin file in moninfo
6.klicked merge extension block with inf..
7.opened joker18s "55UC970 modat.inf"
-> as a result the "55UC970 modat.inf" becomes modified with the extension-block from my orignal Panasonic-edid. (so the extension block has the key-values from the TVs original edid)
no need to save and create another inf? When I do that I just save another original Panasonic inf?
8.installed the new modified "55UC970 modat_modified.inf"
-> sadly no improvement regarding ghosting. in the test-programm in the nvcp I always see the letters from the NVIDIA-text twice (the second letter is not very strong but annoying. with my LG I really only see the letters once..no ghosting letter)
@joker18
I compared your "55UC970 modat.inf" with the original one from innuendo (acermod4k.inf) and i noticed that not only the extension block is different, also the base-edid values. did you changed these values too? Because when you did what I did (merged your original UC970V extension block with an acermod.inf) than your values under base-edid would be the same? I am thinking of maybe there is more that I could do?
Do you know which values in the raw data has to be changed to be recognized as a 3DVision-compatible-Acer-Monitor? So I could manually change my original Panasonic-edid? Are there any guides in the internet for this?
thx for your tips! .. did the following:
1.installed moninfo
2.uninstalled all monitor drivers and registry-entries under ..ENUM/DISPLAY/..
3.reboot with only the Panasonic TV connected to hdmi (3d vision says "3D TV Play" again and monitor driver in device manager says "PnP Monitor (Standard)" again)
4.started moninfo and made a bin-file and inf-file (pana.bin/inf) from the original? MEIA296(=Panasonic TV) [Real-Time 0x...]
5.loaded the bin file in moninfo
6.klicked merge extension block with inf..
7.opened joker18s "55UC970 modat.inf"
-> as a result the "55UC970 modat.inf" becomes modified with the extension-block from my orignal Panasonic-edid. (so the extension block has the key-values from the TVs original edid)
no need to save and create another inf? When I do that I just save another original Panasonic inf?
8.installed the new modified "55UC970 modat_modified.inf"
-> sadly no improvement regarding ghosting. in the test-programm in the nvcp I always see the letters from the NVIDIA-text twice (the second letter is not very strong but annoying. with my LG I really only see the letters once..no ghosting letter)
@joker18
I compared your "55UC970 modat.inf" with the original one from innuendo (acermod4k.inf) and i noticed that not only the extension block is different, also the base-edid values. did you changed these values too? Because when you did what I did (merged your original UC970V extension block with an acermod.inf) than your values under base-edid would be the same? I am thinking of maybe there is more that I could do?
Do you know which values in the raw data has to be changed to be recognized as a 3DVision-compatible-Acer-Monitor? So I could manually change my original Panasonic-edid? Are there any guides in the internet for this?
If every (passive) display is using interlaced HDMI 2.0 2160p (60 fps) mode (and 3840 aspect ratio, rather than 4096) for its native 3D display, I would expect to see almost identical timing information reflected in EDID for this mode. It will be interesting to see if there is really a difference between manufacturers and models.
Note that even Wikipedia does not list all supported display modes under HDMI 2.0, just maximum resolution/size and display rates. Manufacturers can choose to implement subset of HDMI 2.0.
I also noticed the ghosting residual effect that joker18 mentioned when switching my TV's 3D mode on, then back to off - I had to restart TV to get rid of this terrible ghosting. Note that only 3 formats were offered when 3D was enabled - 2D->3D, SBS, and TB - no interlaced mode. I wonder if some type of ghosting correction is applied when the TV autodetects 3D signal, as evertec implies.
In my limited testing of my TV display under 3DTV Play and standard monitor device driver, prior to installing EDID mod, I did not notice any significant change of ghosting performance when migrating to EDID mod. Has anyone noticed a change in ghosting from when migrating from 3DTV Play baseline to EDID mod?
When comparing ghosting performance among displays, I have used both TriDef Ignition high-contrast test image and NVIDIA 3D test application in Control Panel. Ghosting performance varies among manufacturers (my passive 65 in LG has a little less ghosting than my passive 65 in Sony display), and models from the same manufacturer (my passive 65 in LG has more distant minimum 3D focus than my 55 in LG, when considering relative screen sizes - so, the 55 in provides maximum 3D FOV).
If every (passive) display is using interlaced HDMI 2.0 2160p (60 fps) mode (and 3840 aspect ratio, rather than 4096) for its native 3D display, I would expect to see almost identical timing information reflected in EDID for this mode. It will be interesting to see if there is really a difference between manufacturers and models.
Note that even Wikipedia does not list all supported display modes under HDMI 2.0, just maximum resolution/size and display rates. Manufacturers can choose to implement subset of HDMI 2.0.
I also noticed the ghosting residual effect that joker18 mentioned when switching my TV's 3D mode on, then back to off - I had to restart TV to get rid of this terrible ghosting. Note that only 3 formats were offered when 3D was enabled - 2D->3D, SBS, and TB - no interlaced mode. I wonder if some type of ghosting correction is applied when the TV autodetects 3D signal, as evertec implies.
In my limited testing of my TV display under 3DTV Play and standard monitor device driver, prior to installing EDID mod, I did not notice any significant change of ghosting performance when migrating to EDID mod. Has anyone noticed a change in ghosting from when migrating from 3DTV Play baseline to EDID mod?
When comparing ghosting performance among displays, I have used both TriDef Ignition high-contrast test image and NVIDIA 3D test application in Control Panel. Ghosting performance varies among manufacturers (my passive 65 in LG has a little less ghosting than my passive 65 in Sony display), and models from the same manufacturer (my passive 65 in LG has more distant minimum 3D focus than my 55 in LG, when considering relative screen sizes - so, the 55 in provides maximum 3D FOV).
Hi guys, anyone here running SLI?
It looks like Nvidia fixed the SLI bug for the ROG swift and I think there is a good chance that it's also gonna be fixed for you guys using the mod.
I had the LG 4K display but because I couldn't get it to work in SLI (the second card would be 0 usage) my 980ti was not up to the task of running games like the withcher 3 which would only average about 24 FPS with lowered settings.
Can anyone confirm if SLI now works with this mod for games like the Witcher 3, etc.
If it does, I think I'd grab the LG OLED 9200 for a really nice 3D display :)
It looks like Nvidia fixed the SLI bug for the ROG swift and I think there is a good chance that it's also gonna be fixed for you guys using the mod.
I had the LG 4K display but because I couldn't get it to work in SLI (the second card would be 0 usage) my 980ti was not up to the task of running games like the withcher 3 which would only average about 24 FPS with lowered settings.
Can anyone confirm if SLI now works with this mod for games like the Witcher 3, etc.
If it does, I think I'd grab the LG OLED 9200 for a really nice 3D display :)
Thanks a lot joker18, but i think i did the trick:
1. Open the original-edid from TV in moninfo
2. On the left side under „Raw Data“ (hex) in the second line in the first 4 (from the 8) boxes change the values to 04 72 B9 02 -> this will add the important Acer Information to the right side under „Asset Information“:
Manufacturer……..Acer
Plug and Play ID….ACR02B9
3. Save the new Inf-File and install the driver.
4. voila..3D (optim. for Geforce) back again :-)
-> ok so?
Regarding ghosting on the Panasonic:
I really cant say, if ghosting got better with the original edid infos from the TV. Maybe a little or maybe I just get acclimatized with it.
All in all I can say thats a little bit better than when I first activated the TV two days ago. Maybe also because of the following:
- today I got a new high-speed hdmi cable, which is definately suitable for 18gbps (tip from whyme466 from another thread ;-)
- viewing angle: Now the Panasonic is mounted on the wall and my eyes (regarding height) are between the middle and the lower edge of the screen. When I change the angle so that my eyes are centered in the middle of the screen, the ghosting becomes worse. Strange thing, because everybody says that the eye-height shall be in the middle of the screen with passive-screens?
by now I think the Panasonic simply has more ghosting than the LG. so probably it depends to the manufacturer, model, quality of fpr-film etc..
Will do further ghosting tests with whyme466s tridef test-pattern, comparing my passive Panasonic and LG TV and my active Samsung S27A950…
Thanks a lot joker18, but i think i did the trick:
1. Open the original-edid from TV in moninfo
2. On the left side under „Raw Data“ (hex) in the second line in the first 4 (from the 8) boxes change the values to 04 72 B9 02 -> this will add the important Acer Information to the right side under „Asset Information“:
Manufacturer……..Acer
Plug and Play ID….ACR02B9
3. Save the new Inf-File and install the driver.
4. voila..3D (optim. for Geforce) back again :-)
-> ok so?
Regarding ghosting on the Panasonic:
I really cant say, if ghosting got better with the original edid infos from the TV. Maybe a little or maybe I just get acclimatized with it.
All in all I can say thats a little bit better than when I first activated the TV two days ago. Maybe also because of the following:
- today I got a new high-speed hdmi cable, which is definately suitable for 18gbps (tip from whyme466 from another thread ;-)
- viewing angle: Now the Panasonic is mounted on the wall and my eyes (regarding height) are between the middle and the lower edge of the screen. When I change the angle so that my eyes are centered in the middle of the screen, the ghosting becomes worse. Strange thing, because everybody says that the eye-height shall be in the middle of the screen with passive-screens?
by now I think the Panasonic simply has more ghosting than the LG. so probably it depends to the manufacturer, model, quality of fpr-film etc..
Will do further ghosting tests with whyme466s tridef test-pattern, comparing my passive Panasonic and LG TV and my active Samsung S27A950…
I see the link to use Monitor Asset Manager to extract the INF, but not sure exactly where to go from there. Which Acer edid did you use and which portions of it did you apply to your TV's EDID? Thanks,
The extension block (bytes 127-256), which is the second half of the EDID is the portion that contains the Audio capabilities. It also contains multiple native resolutions and stereoscopic capabilities in later versions. The only problem might be the display id. In early versions, it was in the first data block (there wasn't a second data block). In newer revisions, the display id can be in the first, second or both data blocks.
Note: data byte 126 must be 01, if it's 00, the extension is not flagged and is disabled.
Also the first byte in the data block is considered zero, so the second one is considered #1 and the third is #2, etc...
Since half a year I am very (very!) happy with my passive LG 55UC970V connected via HDMI 2.0 (18gbps) to GTX980Ti using the EDID-mod from joker18 (thx again!) he specially made for the UC970V.
Sitting nearly 5-6feet! away from the screen its nearly ghosting free…I can say its perfect ;-)
Now I have a Panasonic TX43CXW754 (Passive 4K, HDMI2.0) to test with exact the same config I described above. (I only disconnected the LG and connected the new Pana and reinstalled the EDID-mod from joker18).
With the same viewing distance and angle (proportional from 55" to 43") with the Panasonic I have much more ghosting/crosstalk than with the LG! Not extreme, but more than enough to return the TV back to the supplier. I also tried the original EDID-mod from innuendo and every TV-setting (contrast, brightness, etc., game-mode, 4:4:4, 4:2:0, RGB, etc.) to improve ghosting/crosstalk-performance but I had no luck.
My question is:
Actually I am not skilled in making and understanding the edid-mod-things. Is there a chance to improve the ghosting-performance from this TV with a special edid-mod specially made for the TV-model? (like the special mod for my LG 55UC970V from joker18)?
Thx for any help!
And thx again to the modders who gave us 4K 3D on the big screen! :))
I'm not an expert, It was just trial en error for me until I got what I needed.(reading tutorials in between)
I think the Edid might improve crosstalk because normally it should have detailed information about the device.
If image is not perfectly aligned with the polarized filter you have ghosting or in worst case no 3D.
So It is possible that the Panasonic was not faulty but the the Edid was not Ok for it.
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Second thing:if i play with the 3d buton and then turn off 3d i have ghosting in native resolution and need to restart tv to get rid of it.
3rd. If Uhd is not on you get colorbug.
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Further more on this TV there is no 3D Button, only the 3D settings in the menu, which are all greyed-out in "passive/optimized-for-geforce-experience-mode"? (Strange thing is that I cannot activate SBS/TB-modes manually, they are also greyed out..but thats another story)
I also tried and played around with converg/depth settings..but no improvement.
yes I use 3840x2160 and there is no UHD-mode setting in the TV!? There is a function called „4K Pure Direct“, when switched on I get 4:4:4 in 3840x2160/60.
@joker18
when I manage to export the original edid from the panasonic, is there an (easy) way to merge the important 3D infos from your or innuendos edid-mod into it?
If I remember correctly you just open the original Edid (saved in bin format) with Moninfo click file->Merge extension block with inf-> select inf of acer or other supported monitor. Save and then create inf.
http://3dvision-blog.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=2025
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1.installed moninfo
2.uninstalled all monitor drivers and registry-entries under ..ENUM/DISPLAY/..
3.reboot with only the Panasonic TV connected to hdmi (3d vision says "3D TV Play" again and monitor driver in device manager says "PnP Monitor (Standard)" again)
4.started moninfo and made a bin-file and inf-file (pana.bin/inf) from the original? MEIA296(=Panasonic TV) [Real-Time 0x...]
5.loaded the bin file in moninfo
6.klicked merge extension block with inf..
7.opened joker18s "55UC970 modat.inf"
-> as a result the "55UC970 modat.inf" becomes modified with the extension-block from my orignal Panasonic-edid. (so the extension block has the key-values from the TVs original edid)
no need to save and create another inf? When I do that I just save another original Panasonic inf?
8.installed the new modified "55UC970 modat_modified.inf"
-> sadly no improvement regarding ghosting. in the test-programm in the nvcp I always see the letters from the NVIDIA-text twice (the second letter is not very strong but annoying. with my LG I really only see the letters once..no ghosting letter)
@joker18
I compared your "55UC970 modat.inf" with the original one from innuendo (acermod4k.inf) and i noticed that not only the extension block is different, also the base-edid values. did you changed these values too? Because when you did what I did (merged your original UC970V extension block with an acermod.inf) than your values under base-edid would be the same? I am thinking of maybe there is more that I could do?
Do you know which values in the raw data has to be changed to be recognized as a 3DVision-compatible-Acer-Monitor? So I could manually change my original Panasonic-edid? Are there any guides in the internet for this?
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Note that even Wikipedia does not list all supported display modes under HDMI 2.0, just maximum resolution/size and display rates. Manufacturers can choose to implement subset of HDMI 2.0.
I also noticed the ghosting residual effect that joker18 mentioned when switching my TV's 3D mode on, then back to off - I had to restart TV to get rid of this terrible ghosting. Note that only 3 formats were offered when 3D was enabled - 2D->3D, SBS, and TB - no interlaced mode. I wonder if some type of ghosting correction is applied when the TV autodetects 3D signal, as evertec implies.
In my limited testing of my TV display under 3DTV Play and standard monitor device driver, prior to installing EDID mod, I did not notice any significant change of ghosting performance when migrating to EDID mod. Has anyone noticed a change in ghosting from when migrating from 3DTV Play baseline to EDID mod?
When comparing ghosting performance among displays, I have used both TriDef Ignition high-contrast test image and NVIDIA 3D test application in Control Panel. Ghosting performance varies among manufacturers (my passive 65 in LG has a little less ghosting than my passive 65 in Sony display), and models from the same manufacturer (my passive 65 in LG has more distant minimum 3D focus than my 55 in LG, when considering relative screen sizes - so, the 55 in provides maximum 3D FOV).
It looks like Nvidia fixed the SLI bug for the ROG swift and I think there is a good chance that it's also gonna be fixed for you guys using the mod.
I had the LG 4K display but because I couldn't get it to work in SLI (the second card would be 0 usage) my 980ti was not up to the task of running games like the withcher 3 which would only average about 24 FPS with lowered settings.
Can anyone confirm if SLI now works with this mod for games like the Witcher 3, etc.
If it does, I think I'd grab the LG OLED 9200 for a really nice 3D display :)
1. Open the original-edid from TV in moninfo
2. On the left side under „Raw Data“ (hex) in the second line in the first 4 (from the 8) boxes change the values to 04 72 B9 02 -> this will add the important Acer Information to the right side under „Asset Information“:
Manufacturer……..Acer
Plug and Play ID….ACR02B9
3. Save the new Inf-File and install the driver.
4. voila..3D (optim. for Geforce) back again :-)
-> ok so?
Regarding ghosting on the Panasonic:
I really cant say, if ghosting got better with the original edid infos from the TV. Maybe a little or maybe I just get acclimatized with it.
All in all I can say thats a little bit better than when I first activated the TV two days ago. Maybe also because of the following:
- today I got a new high-speed hdmi cable, which is definately suitable for 18gbps (tip from whyme466 from another thread ;-)
- viewing angle: Now the Panasonic is mounted on the wall and my eyes (regarding height) are between the middle and the lower edge of the screen. When I change the angle so that my eyes are centered in the middle of the screen, the ghosting becomes worse. Strange thing, because everybody says that the eye-height shall be in the middle of the screen with passive-screens?
by now I think the Panasonic simply has more ghosting than the LG. so probably it depends to the manufacturer, model, quality of fpr-film etc..
Will do further ghosting tests with whyme466s tridef test-pattern, comparing my passive Panasonic and LG TV and my active Samsung S27A950…