LOL, 120Hz or 240Hz signal. These PS3 Displays only accept a 60Hz signal, 120Hz/240Hz is adjust via the display not gpu and is achieved via interpolation. Interpolation is by no means an exact science and more often than not introduces artifacts. It is not a 120Hz Display, otherwise it would have a DVI-D port.
LOL, 120Hz or 240Hz signal. These PS3 Displays only accept a 60Hz signal, 120Hz/240Hz is adjust via the display not gpu and is achieved via interpolation. Interpolation is by no means an exact science and more often than not introduces artifacts. It is not a 120Hz Display, otherwise it would have a DVI-D port.
[quote name='D-Man11' date='22 November 2011 - 11:22 AM' timestamp='1321993364' post='1331123']
BTW, has anyone even attempted to add this via using a support ticket? Follow the instruction here http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/2774
You think since-----> Sony HMZ-T1 HMD support is now available http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=215785 <------- getting the SONY Playstation 3D Display
added would not be a problem.
[/quote]
It's pretty obvious this thread is currently being ignored by Nvidia employess.
Seriously, submit the support tickets, get your answers.
[quote name='D-Man11' date='22 November 2011 - 11:22 AM' timestamp='1321993364' post='1331123']
BTW, has anyone even attempted to add this via using a support ticket? Follow the instruction here http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/2774
I can only use 3d on this display on 1080p-1920X1080 24Hz or 720p-1280X720 60Hz but without 3d native resolution is 1080p-1920X1080 60Hz.
I'm using a GTX 560 if it matters.
Don't know why anyone would buy a console monitor to use with a PC. An actual 120hz will absolutely demolish that playstation monitor while likely being cheaper at the same time.
Don't know why anyone would buy a console monitor to use with a PC. An actual 120hz will absolutely demolish that playstation monitor while likely being cheaper at the same time.
[quote name='rouge978978' date='29 November 2011 - 01:58 PM' timestamp='1322603934' post='1334931']
I can only use 3d on this display on 1080p-1920X1080 24Hz or 720p-1280X720 60Hz but without 3d native resolution is 1080p-1920X1080 60Hz.
I'm using a GTX 560 if it matters.
[/quote]
Yes because those are the only 3D resolutions the display supports, it's a HDMI 1.4 device and it doesn't use the "new" HDMI chips so your stuck with either 1080P@24Hz or 720P@60Hz.
[quote name='rouge978978' date='29 November 2011 - 01:58 PM' timestamp='1322603934' post='1334931']
I can only use 3d on this display on 1080p-1920X1080 24Hz or 720p-1280X720 60Hz but without 3d native resolution is 1080p-1920X1080 60Hz.
I'm using a GTX 560 if it matters.
Yes because those are the only 3D resolutions the display supports, it's a HDMI 1.4 device and it doesn't use the "new" HDMI chips so your stuck with either 1080P@24Hz or 720P@60Hz.
[quote name='ERP' date='29 November 2011 - 06:57 PM' timestamp='1322611025' post='1334986']
Yes because those are the only 3D resolutions the display supports, it's a HDMI 1.4 device and it doesn't use the "new" HDMI chips so your stuck with either 1080P@24Hz or 720P@60Hz.
[/quote]
@ERP Are you sure that the Playstation 3D Display doesn't have the "new" HDMI chips? I know that I read the PS3 is using frame packing to make 3D work on the console. I thought when it comes to the Playstation Display that there aren't any newer versions of HDMI that have been released and that is using the newest available.
I'm thinking if you try 3D at 24Hz, the glasses will be flickering at a slower speed and will be more noticeable. I used to have edimensional 3D glasses that worked with my CRT screen at 85hz-100hz and when I set them to 60hz it looked really bad.
Also, a year ago I had an Asus 23 inch 3D monitor that did 120hz 3D with a dual-link cable. I actually loved using it for 2D in 120hz because it made browsing internet webpages easier to scroll through and gif images looked a little bit better too.
I was actually considering 2 different monitors if I don't buy the Playstation 3D display
The Acer HN274H BMIIID 3D 27-Inch LED Monitor
http://www.amazon.com/Acer-HN274H-BMIIID-27-Inch-Monitor/dp/B004YCMEJU
or the
Dell UltraSharp U2412M
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&cs=04&l=en&sku=320-2676
but it seems like the drawback are slower response time and the contrast ratio isn't as good as the Playstation 3D display. I'm also not sure about the refresh rate
[quote name='ERP' date='29 November 2011 - 06:57 PM' timestamp='1322611025' post='1334986']
Yes because those are the only 3D resolutions the display supports, it's a HDMI 1.4 device and it doesn't use the "new" HDMI chips so your stuck with either 1080P@24Hz or 720P@60Hz.
@ERP Are you sure that the Playstation 3D Display doesn't have the "new" HDMI chips? I know that I read the PS3 is using frame packing to make 3D work on the console. I thought when it comes to the Playstation Display that there aren't any newer versions of HDMI that have been released and that is using the newest available.
I'm thinking if you try 3D at 24Hz, the glasses will be flickering at a slower speed and will be more noticeable. I used to have edimensional 3D glasses that worked with my CRT screen at 85hz-100hz and when I set them to 60hz it looked really bad.
Also, a year ago I had an Asus 23 inch 3D monitor that did 120hz 3D with a dual-link cable. I actually loved using it for 2D in 120hz because it made browsing internet webpages easier to scroll through and gif images looked a little bit better too.
I was actually considering 2 different monitors if I don't buy the Playstation 3D display
but it seems like the drawback are slower response time and the contrast ratio isn't as good as the Playstation 3D display. I'm also not sure about the refresh rate
[quote name='almostinsane' date='30 November 2011 - 04:37 PM' timestamp='1322689046' post='1335494']
What? The Dell isn't a 3D monitor.
[/quote]
That's right but I don't really care about 3D, although I do like high refresh rates.
I ended up ordering the PS3 3D Display from Bestbuy.com because they are giving a PS3 with it for only $100 more. Also got Sony 3D glasses for $25 dollars and a PS3 remote for $15. Then I ordered the iPad HDMI adapter because I've got an iPad 2 and the game infinity blade shows at 1080p with the adapter.
[quote name='almostinsane' date='30 November 2011 - 04:37 PM' timestamp='1322689046' post='1335494']
What? The Dell isn't a 3D monitor.
That's right but I don't really care about 3D, although I do like high refresh rates.
I ended up ordering the PS3 3D Display from Bestbuy.com because they are giving a PS3 with it for only $100 more. Also got Sony 3D glasses for $25 dollars and a PS3 remote for $15. Then I ordered the iPad HDMI adapter because I've got an iPad 2 and the game infinity blade shows at 1080p with the adapter.
[quote name='D-Man11' date='29 November 2011 - 04:47 PM' timestamp='1322603235' post='1334924']
It's pretty obvious this thread is currently being ignored by Nvidia employess.
Seriously, submit the support tickets, get your answers.
Stop slacking.
Just do it.
Do it NOW.
What da hell r u waiting for? DO IT........
Or don't
[/quote]
I actually submitted a ticket on the 22nd, it went a few days left unanswered. Today, I check and its not there, no history of the submission whatsoever. Like I never did it.
[quote name='D-Man11' date='29 November 2011 - 04:47 PM' timestamp='1322603235' post='1334924']
It's pretty obvious this thread is currently being ignored by Nvidia employess.
Seriously, submit the support tickets, get your answers.
Stop slacking.
Just do it.
Do it NOW.
What da hell r u waiting for? DO IT........
Or don't
I actually submitted a ticket on the 22nd, it went a few days left unanswered. Today, I check and its not there, no history of the submission whatsoever. Like I never did it.
All I know is this display looks good in 3d coming from the Ps3. I guess that should be a given considering that's what it's designed for, but I can't understand why it's so hard for the PC to look good in 3d, or do it at all. It's supposed to be way beefier than the PS3 in processing power, but everyone keeps saying things along the line of "the display just isn't capable of..." and maybe they are right somehow because I don't know anything about this tech, but if I could get 3d from the PC to look similar the 3d from the PS3 I'd be happy. What I don't get is if the display is advertised as 240, why am I only getting 60 from the PC? That's where it bugs me when people keep saying "it's just not capable" of 240 or 120, then what refresh rate am I getting from the PS3?.... and why can't the PC do it? This display is obviously "capable" of something but no one seems to know what that is.
All I know is this display looks good in 3d coming from the Ps3. I guess that should be a given considering that's what it's designed for, but I can't understand why it's so hard for the PC to look good in 3d, or do it at all. It's supposed to be way beefier than the PS3 in processing power, but everyone keeps saying things along the line of "the display just isn't capable of..." and maybe they are right somehow because I don't know anything about this tech, but if I could get 3d from the PC to look similar the 3d from the PS3 I'd be happy. What I don't get is if the display is advertised as 240, why am I only getting 60 from the PC? That's where it bugs me when people keep saying "it's just not capable" of 240 or 120, then what refresh rate am I getting from the PS3?.... and why can't the PC do it? This display is obviously "capable" of something but no one seems to know what that is.
Well I just got a email from Nvidia saying that they are not planning to support this display so I'm going to return it. Good thing I haven't owned this display for more then 15 days.
Well I just got a email from Nvidia saying that they are not planning to support this display so I'm going to return it. Good thing I haven't owned this display for more then 15 days.
[quote name='rouge978978' date='28 November 2011 - 09:43 PM' timestamp='1322534584' post='1334451']
Ok the new Beta driver 290.36 supports this display now. I can get 3d to work but now need to figure out how to use it in games.
[/quote]
According to this post, the next version of the Nvidia drivers will support this display
[quote name='rouge978978' date='02 December 2011 - 04:39 AM' timestamp='1322818788' post='1336320']
Well I just got a email from Nvidia saying that they are not planning to support this display so I'm going to return it. Good thing I haven't owned this display for more then 15 days.
[/quote]
[quote name='rouge978978' date='28 November 2011 - 09:43 PM' timestamp='1322534584' post='1334451']
Ok the new Beta driver 290.36 supports this display now. I can get 3d to work but now need to figure out how to use it in games.
According to this post, the next version of the Nvidia drivers will support this display
[quote name='rouge978978' date='02 December 2011 - 04:39 AM' timestamp='1322818788' post='1336320']
Well I just got a email from Nvidia saying that they are not planning to support this display so I'm going to return it. Good thing I haven't owned this display for more then 15 days.
[quote name='system shocker' date='02 December 2011 - 05:57 AM' timestamp='1322823444' post='1336354']
According to this post, the next version of the Nvidia drivers will support this display
[/quote]
The beta drivers only recognize that the monitor is 3D but 3d vision play does not support it. http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=217213&st=0&p=1335476&fromsearch=1&#entry1335476
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Response Via Email (Ray) 12/01/2011 10:49 AM
Hello,
Thank you for your submission. I'm afraid the current Sony 3D monitors are not NVIDIA 3D Vision Ready certified and are not supported by NVIDIA 3D Vision or 3DTV Play software. There is currently no plan to add support for the Sony CECH-ZED1U.
Best regards,
NVIDIA Customer Care
Customer By Web Form () 11/30/2011 01:06 PM
Requesting 3DTV/Display support in Nvidia Drivers.
Product Level 1: 3DTV Play
Date Created: 11/30/2011 01:06 PM
Last Updated: 12/01/2011 10:49 AM
Status: Closed No Submission
Choose OS: Microsoft Windows 7 64bit
Product Name: PS3 3DDisplay CECH-ZED1U
Driver Version: beta 290.36
According to this post, the next version of the Nvidia drivers will support this display
The beta drivers only recognize that the monitor is 3D but 3d vision play does not support it. http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=217213&st=0&p=1335476&fromsearch=1&#entry1335476
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Requesting 3DTV/Display support in Nvidia Drivers.
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Response Via Email (Ray) 12/01/2011 10:49 AM
Hello,
Thank you for your submission. I'm afraid the current Sony 3D monitors are not NVIDIA 3D Vision Ready certified and are not supported by NVIDIA 3D Vision or 3DTV Play software. There is currently no plan to add support for the Sony CECH-ZED1U.
Best regards,
NVIDIA Customer Care
Customer By Web Form () 11/30/2011 01:06 PM
Requesting 3DTV/Display support in Nvidia Drivers.
Sounds to me that "there is not plan to support" it because they simply don't WANT to support it, probably because it conveniently has it's own emitter and shutter shades and they can't rip off their customers some more by making them buy their crappy product. All I know now is I'm going to have to return this thing, and probably do the only thing I can do as a consumer and buy ATI instead of Nvidia in the future. So much for my plans to buy another GTX570ti and run SLI.
Sounds to me that "there is not plan to support" it because they simply don't WANT to support it, probably because it conveniently has it's own emitter and shutter shades and they can't rip off their customers some more by making them buy their crappy product. All I know now is I'm going to have to return this thing, and probably do the only thing I can do as a consumer and buy ATI instead of Nvidia in the future. So much for my plans to buy another GTX570ti and run SLI.
You're mad at nVidia because you bought a piece of equipment that was never meant to work with their products?
Well, I wish you best of luck with AMD.
By the way, your reasoning is flawed. nVidia specifically offers a software set meant to be used with 3D capable HDMI 1.4 TV sets (3DTV Play). If it were all about selling their "crappy" 3DVision product, they wouldn't offer this.
You're mad at nVidia because you bought a piece of equipment that was never meant to work with their products?
Well, I wish you best of luck with AMD.
By the way, your reasoning is flawed. nVidia specifically offers a software set meant to be used with 3D capable HDMI 1.4 TV sets (3DTV Play). If it were all about selling their "crappy" 3DVision product, they wouldn't offer this.
------>Interpolation tickles my brain<--------
------>Interpolation tickles my brain<--------
BTW, has anyone even attempted to add this via using a support ticket? Follow the instruction here http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/2774
You think since-----> Sony HMZ-T1 HMD support is now available http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=215785 <------- getting the SONY Playstation 3D Display
added would not be a problem.
[/quote]
It's pretty obvious this thread is currently being ignored by Nvidia employess.
Seriously, submit the support tickets, get your answers.
Stop slacking.
Just do it.
Do it NOW.
What da hell r u waiting for? DO IT........
Or don't
BTW, has anyone even attempted to add this via using a support ticket? Follow the instruction here http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/2774
You think since-----> Sony HMZ-T1 HMD support is now available http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=215785 <------- getting the SONY Playstation 3D Display
added would not be a problem.
It's pretty obvious this thread is currently being ignored by Nvidia employess.
Seriously, submit the support tickets, get your answers.
Stop slacking.
Just do it.
Do it NOW.
What da hell r u waiting for? DO IT........
Or don't
I'm using a GTX 560 if it matters.
I'm using a GTX 560 if it matters.
I can only use 3d on this display on 1080p-1920X1080 24Hz or 720p-1280X720 60Hz but without 3d native resolution is 1080p-1920X1080 60Hz.
I'm using a GTX 560 if it matters.
[/quote]
Yes because those are the only 3D resolutions the display supports, it's a HDMI 1.4 device and it doesn't use the "new" HDMI chips so your stuck with either 1080P@24Hz or 720P@60Hz.
I can only use 3d on this display on 1080p-1920X1080 24Hz or 720p-1280X720 60Hz but without 3d native resolution is 1080p-1920X1080 60Hz.
I'm using a GTX 560 if it matters.
Yes because those are the only 3D resolutions the display supports, it's a HDMI 1.4 device and it doesn't use the "new" HDMI chips so your stuck with either 1080P@24Hz or 720P@60Hz.
My Blog
Yes because those are the only 3D resolutions the display supports, it's a HDMI 1.4 device and it doesn't use the "new" HDMI chips so your stuck with either 1080P@24Hz or 720P@60Hz.
[/quote]
@ERP Are you sure that the Playstation 3D Display doesn't have the "new" HDMI chips? I know that I read the PS3 is using frame packing to make 3D work on the console. I thought when it comes to the Playstation Display that there aren't any newer versions of HDMI that have been released and that is using the newest available.
I'm thinking if you try 3D at 24Hz, the glasses will be flickering at a slower speed and will be more noticeable. I used to have edimensional 3D glasses that worked with my CRT screen at 85hz-100hz and when I set them to 60hz it looked really bad.
Also, a year ago I had an Asus 23 inch 3D monitor that did 120hz 3D with a dual-link cable. I actually loved using it for 2D in 120hz because it made browsing internet webpages easier to scroll through and gif images looked a little bit better too.
I was actually considering 2 different monitors if I don't buy the Playstation 3D display
The Acer HN274H BMIIID 3D 27-Inch LED Monitor
http://www.amazon.com/Acer-HN274H-BMIIID-27-Inch-Monitor/dp/B004YCMEJU
or the
Dell UltraSharp U2412M
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&cs=04&l=en&sku=320-2676
but it seems like the drawback are slower response time and the contrast ratio isn't as good as the Playstation 3D display. I'm also not sure about the refresh rate
Yes because those are the only 3D resolutions the display supports, it's a HDMI 1.4 device and it doesn't use the "new" HDMI chips so your stuck with either 1080P@24Hz or 720P@60Hz.
@ERP Are you sure that the Playstation 3D Display doesn't have the "new" HDMI chips? I know that I read the PS3 is using frame packing to make 3D work on the console. I thought when it comes to the Playstation Display that there aren't any newer versions of HDMI that have been released and that is using the newest available.
I'm thinking if you try 3D at 24Hz, the glasses will be flickering at a slower speed and will be more noticeable. I used to have edimensional 3D glasses that worked with my CRT screen at 85hz-100hz and when I set them to 60hz it looked really bad.
Also, a year ago I had an Asus 23 inch 3D monitor that did 120hz 3D with a dual-link cable. I actually loved using it for 2D in 120hz because it made browsing internet webpages easier to scroll through and gif images looked a little bit better too.
I was actually considering 2 different monitors if I don't buy the Playstation 3D display
The Acer HN274H BMIIID 3D 27-Inch LED Monitor
http://www.amazon.com/Acer-HN274H-BMIIID-27-Inch-Monitor/dp/B004YCMEJU
or the
Dell UltraSharp U2412M
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&cs=04&l=en&sku=320-2676
but it seems like the drawback are slower response time and the contrast ratio isn't as good as the Playstation 3D display. I'm also not sure about the refresh rate
What? The Dell isn't a 3D monitor.
[/quote]
That's right but I don't really care about 3D, although I do like high refresh rates.
I ended up ordering the PS3 3D Display from Bestbuy.com because they are giving a PS3 with it for only $100 more. Also got Sony 3D glasses for $25 dollars and a PS3 remote for $15. Then I ordered the iPad HDMI adapter because I've got an iPad 2 and the game infinity blade shows at 1080p with the adapter.
What? The Dell isn't a 3D monitor.
That's right but I don't really care about 3D, although I do like high refresh rates.
I ended up ordering the PS3 3D Display from Bestbuy.com because they are giving a PS3 with it for only $100 more. Also got Sony 3D glasses for $25 dollars and a PS3 remote for $15. Then I ordered the iPad HDMI adapter because I've got an iPad 2 and the game infinity blade shows at 1080p with the adapter.
It's pretty obvious this thread is currently being ignored by Nvidia employess.
Seriously, submit the support tickets, get your answers.
Stop slacking.
Just do it.
Do it NOW.
What da hell r u waiting for? DO IT........
Or don't
[/quote]
I actually submitted a ticket on the 22nd, it went a few days left unanswered. Today, I check and its not there, no history of the submission whatsoever. Like I never did it.
It's pretty obvious this thread is currently being ignored by Nvidia employess.
Seriously, submit the support tickets, get your answers.
Stop slacking.
Just do it.
Do it NOW.
What da hell r u waiting for? DO IT........
Or don't
I actually submitted a ticket on the 22nd, it went a few days left unanswered. Today, I check and its not there, no history of the submission whatsoever. Like I never did it.
Ok the new Beta driver 290.36 supports this display now. I can get 3d to work but now need to figure out how to use it in games.
[/quote]
According to this post, the next version of the Nvidia drivers will support this display
[quote name='rouge978978' date='02 December 2011 - 04:39 AM' timestamp='1322818788' post='1336320']
Well I just got a email from Nvidia saying that they are not planning to support this display so I'm going to return it. Good thing I haven't owned this display for more then 15 days.
[/quote]
Ok the new Beta driver 290.36 supports this display now. I can get 3d to work but now need to figure out how to use it in games.
According to this post, the next version of the Nvidia drivers will support this display
[quote name='rouge978978' date='02 December 2011 - 04:39 AM' timestamp='1322818788' post='1336320']
Well I just got a email from Nvidia saying that they are not planning to support this display so I'm going to return it. Good thing I haven't owned this display for more then 15 days.
According to this post, the next version of the Nvidia drivers will support this display
[/quote]
The beta drivers only recognize that the monitor is 3D but 3d vision play does not support it. http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=217213&st=0&p=1335476&fromsearch=1&#entry1335476
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Requesting 3DTV/Display support in Nvidia Drivers.
Discussion Thread
Response Via Email (Ray) 12/01/2011 10:49 AM
Hello,
Thank you for your submission. I'm afraid the current Sony 3D monitors are not NVIDIA 3D Vision Ready certified and are not supported by NVIDIA 3D Vision or 3DTV Play software. There is currently no plan to add support for the Sony CECH-ZED1U.
Best regards,
NVIDIA Customer Care
Customer By Web Form () 11/30/2011 01:06 PM
Requesting 3DTV/Display support in Nvidia Drivers.
Product Level 1: 3DTV Play
Date Created: 11/30/2011 01:06 PM
Last Updated: 12/01/2011 10:49 AM
Status: Closed No Submission
Choose OS: Microsoft Windows 7 64bit
Product Name: PS3 3DDisplay CECH-ZED1U
Driver Version: beta 290.36
[---001:000926:23806---][/b]
According to this post, the next version of the Nvidia drivers will support this display
The beta drivers only recognize that the monitor is 3D but 3d vision play does not support it. http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=217213&st=0&p=1335476&fromsearch=1&#entry1335476
email:
Recently you requested personal assistance from our on-line support center. Below is a summary of your request and our response.
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Subject
Requesting 3DTV/Display support in Nvidia Drivers.
Discussion Thread
Response Via Email (Ray) 12/01/2011 10:49 AM
Hello,
Thank you for your submission. I'm afraid the current Sony 3D monitors are not NVIDIA 3D Vision Ready certified and are not supported by NVIDIA 3D Vision or 3DTV Play software. There is currently no plan to add support for the Sony CECH-ZED1U.
Best regards,
NVIDIA Customer Care
Customer By Web Form () 11/30/2011 01:06 PM
Requesting 3DTV/Display support in Nvidia Drivers.
Product Level 1: 3DTV Play
Date Created: 11/30/2011 01:06 PM
Last Updated: 12/01/2011 10:49 AM
Status: Closed No Submission
Choose OS: Microsoft Windows 7 64bit
Product Name: PS3 3DDisplay CECH-ZED1U
Driver Version: beta 290.36
[---001:000926:23806---]
Well, I wish you best of luck with AMD.
By the way, your reasoning is flawed. nVidia specifically offers a software set meant to be used with 3D capable HDMI 1.4 TV sets (3DTV Play). If it were all about selling their "crappy" 3DVision product, they wouldn't offer this.
Well, I wish you best of luck with AMD.
By the way, your reasoning is flawed. nVidia specifically offers a software set meant to be used with 3D capable HDMI 1.4 TV sets (3DTV Play). If it were all about selling their "crappy" 3DVision product, they wouldn't offer this.