HDMI 1.4 Displays - Support? None of the existing 3D over HDMI sets are supported - will 1.4 be?
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There are Samsung and Panasonic displays that support 3D over HDMI which are available now. They are compatible with the Sony PS3 (at least in dev firmaware 3.20) - but they are not supported by the Nvidia 3D Vision.

With the 3D support in HDMI 1.4 established and displays from all major manufacturers expected by the end of the year is the Nvidia plan to continue to focus on specific support for individual displays? Or will they embrace the standard and support stereo 3D via HDMI 1.4?

I want a set I can use with my PC for games but also use directly with my PS3 for blu-ray and PS3 titles when they are available.
There are Samsung and Panasonic displays that support 3D over HDMI which are available now. They are compatible with the Sony PS3 (at least in dev firmaware 3.20) - but they are not supported by the Nvidia 3D Vision.



With the 3D support in HDMI 1.4 established and displays from all major manufacturers expected by the end of the year is the Nvidia plan to continue to focus on specific support for individual displays? Or will they embrace the standard and support stereo 3D via HDMI 1.4?



I want a set I can use with my PC for games but also use directly with my PS3 for blu-ray and PS3 titles when they are available.

#1
Posted 04/24/2010 08:39 PM   
I'm really hoping the add support for all the up coming 3D displays and not just specific models. I really want to get myself one of the 40" to 46" displays. I really don't want to have to search for a specific model as it will be hard down here. That is because all the models in New Zealand and Australia have different model names to the ones in the US. It could make it very confusing.
I'm really hoping the add support for all the up coming 3D displays and not just specific models. I really want to get myself one of the 40" to 46" displays. I really don't want to have to search for a specific model as it will be hard down here. That is because all the models in New Zealand and Australia have different model names to the ones in the US. It could make it very confusing.

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#2
Posted 04/24/2010 09:41 PM   
since HDMI 1.4 include some new tech-specifications for 3d stereo, i wonder if gaming on 3DTV with Nvidia 3dtv Play will be better/whose/same compared to "old" 120 Hz LCD monitors with 3d vision?
I don't mean obvious size difference.
since HDMI 1.4 include some new tech-specifications for 3d stereo, i wonder if gaming on 3DTV with Nvidia 3dtv Play will be better/whose/same compared to "old" 120 Hz LCD monitors with 3d vision?

I don't mean obvious size difference.

#3
Posted 04/24/2010 09:47 PM   
Nvidia already annouced they will support all hdmi1.4 displays regardless of brand or type of 3D display (active/passive) though their upcoming product :
Nvidia 3DTV Play, which is essentially the 3D Vision driver software without the glasses.
Nvidia already annouced they will support all hdmi1.4 displays regardless of brand or type of 3D display (active/passive) though their upcoming product :

Nvidia 3DTV Play, which is essentially the 3D Vision driver software without the glasses.

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#4
Posted 04/25/2010 12:51 AM   
PS3 is Hdmi 1.3, if Sony can do 3D on 1.3 whats the trick, why cant others do it ??
3.30 (3D) was released yesterday

Just read hdmi 1.3 can do 3D only @ 1080i not p
1080i limit is 25 frame rate
BluRay is 1080/24p

Still Sonys says the PS3 will do 1080p
Lots of cunfusing and wrong info out there
[url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hdmi#Version_comparison"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hdmi#Version_comparison[/url]

What it comes down to is PS3 (hdmi 1.3) can do 3D but needs TV hdmi 1.4
PS3 might be limited with future content
PS3 is Hdmi 1.3, if Sony can do 3D on 1.3 whats the trick, why cant others do it ??

3.30 (3D) was released yesterday



Just read hdmi 1.3 can do 3D only @ 1080i not p

1080i limit is 25 frame rate

BluRay is 1080/24p



Still Sonys says the PS3 will do 1080p

Lots of cunfusing and wrong info out there

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hdmi#Version_comparison



What it comes down to is PS3 (hdmi 1.3) can do 3D but needs TV hdmi 1.4

PS3 might be limited with future content

#5
Posted 04/25/2010 04:48 AM   
[quote name='Jaz808' post='1044757' date='Apr 25 2010, 04:48 PM']PS3 is Hdmi 1.3, if Sony can do 3D on 1.3 whats the trick, why cant others do it ??
3.30 (3D) was released yesterday

Just read hdmi 1.3 can do 3D only @ 1080i not p
1080i limit is 25 frame rate
BluRay is 1080/24p

Still Sonys says the PS3 will do 1080p
Lots of confusing and wrong info out there
[url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hdmi#Version_comparison"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hdmi#Version_comparison[/url]

What it comes down to is PS3 (hdmi 1.3) can do 3D but needs TV hdmi 1.4
PS3 might be limited with future content[/quote]
Yeah, I have a feeling the pS3 is only capable to do 720p/1080i in 3D. I don't think HDMI 1.3 has the bandwidth for full HD 3D.
[quote name='Jaz808' post='1044757' date='Apr 25 2010, 04:48 PM']PS3 is Hdmi 1.3, if Sony can do 3D on 1.3 whats the trick, why cant others do it ??

3.30 (3D) was released yesterday



Just read hdmi 1.3 can do 3D only @ 1080i not p

1080i limit is 25 frame rate

BluRay is 1080/24p



Still Sonys says the PS3 will do 1080p

Lots of confusing and wrong info out there

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hdmi#Version_comparison



What it comes down to is PS3 (hdmi 1.3) can do 3D but needs TV hdmi 1.4

PS3 might be limited with future content

Yeah, I have a feeling the pS3 is only capable to do 720p/1080i in 3D. I don't think HDMI 1.3 has the bandwidth for full HD 3D.

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#6
Posted 04/25/2010 07:07 AM   
Both 1.3 & 1.4 does 10.2 Gbit/s

But 1.3 cant do
Ethernet Channel
Audio Return Channel
4k × 2k Resolution Support
Both 1.3 & 1.4 does 10.2 Gbit/s



But 1.3 cant do

Ethernet Channel

Audio Return Channel

4k × 2k Resolution Support

#7
Posted 04/25/2010 09:01 AM   
The 3D part of hdmi1.4 uses exactly the same hardware as 1.3, the difference is in standardizing the input/output formats to allow automatic detection of the 3D content.

PS3 will support :
stereo 1080p @24Hz for Bluray3D movies
stereo 720p @50/60Hz for games

This is possible because the image processing the PS3 is all done in software.
The 3D part of hdmi1.4 uses exactly the same hardware as 1.3, the difference is in standardizing the input/output formats to allow automatic detection of the 3D content.



PS3 will support :

stereo 1080p @24Hz for Bluray3D movies

stereo 720p @50/60Hz for games



This is possible because the image processing the PS3 is all done in software.

Passive 3D forever
110" DIY dual-projection system
2x Epson EH-TW3500 (1080p) + Linear Polarizers (SPAR)
XtremScreen Daylight 2.0
VNS Geobox501 signal converter

#8
Posted 04/25/2010 12:54 PM   
Indeed BlackSharkfr is correct about the resolution/refresh rates.

I had not seen the information about 3DTV Play, that makes me very happy!
[url="http://www.nvidia.com/object/3D_TV_play.html"]http://www.nvidia.com/object/3D_TV_play.html[/url]

I'm glad they are taking that route. It will be good for everyone moving forward.
Indeed BlackSharkfr is correct about the resolution/refresh rates.



I had not seen the information about 3DTV Play, that makes me very happy!

http://www.nvidia.com/object/3D_TV_play.html



I'm glad they are taking that route. It will be good for everyone moving forward.

#9
Posted 04/25/2010 05:42 PM   
HDMI 1.4a (1.3 & software really)

-For movie content:
o Frame Packing
1080p @ 23.98/24Hz

-For game content:
o Frame Packing
720p @ 50 or 59.94/60Hz

-For broadcast content: (NEW IN HDMI 1.4a)
o Side-by-Side Horizontal
1080i @ 50 or 59.94/60Hz
o Top-and-Bottom
720p @ 50 or 59.94/60Hz
1080p @ 23.97/24Hz

TV or Monitor needs to be Hdmi 1.4, hopefully we will see new monitor's @ 3D 16:10 and 1.4
HDMI 1.4a (1.3 & software really)



-For movie content:

o Frame Packing

1080p @ 23.98/24Hz



-For game content:

o Frame Packing

720p @ 50 or 59.94/60Hz



-For broadcast content: (NEW IN HDMI 1.4a)

o Side-by-Side Horizontal

1080i @ 50 or 59.94/60Hz

o Top-and-Bottom

720p @ 50 or 59.94/60Hz

1080p @ 23.97/24Hz



TV or Monitor needs to be Hdmi 1.4, hopefully we will see new monitor's @ 3D 16:10 and 1.4

#10
Posted 04/26/2010 12:44 AM   
For computer monitors hdmi1.4a is clearly not up to the task. It would be good for compatibility purposes with PS3, Broadcast and BluRay but for a big computer display anything below stereo 1080p @60Hz is a fail, and Hdmi 1.4a makes this format optional.
Moreover some computer monitors go beyond : like 16:10 displays with 1920x1200 resolution, or the bigger 30" monitors with 2560x1600 resolution. Hdmi 1.4a was never designed for these screen sizes.
For computer monitors hdmi1.4a is clearly not up to the task. It would be good for compatibility purposes with PS3, Broadcast and BluRay but for a big computer display anything below stereo 1080p @60Hz is a fail, and Hdmi 1.4a makes this format optional.

Moreover some computer monitors go beyond : like 16:10 displays with 1920x1200 resolution, or the bigger 30" monitors with 2560x1600 resolution. Hdmi 1.4a was never designed for these screen sizes.

Passive 3D forever
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2x Epson EH-TW3500 (1080p) + Linear Polarizers (SPAR)
XtremScreen Daylight 2.0
VNS Geobox501 signal converter

#11
Posted 04/26/2010 02:14 AM   
[quote name='BlackSharkfr' post='1044883' date='Apr 26 2010, 12:54 AM']The 3D part of hdmi1.4 uses exactly the same hardware as 1.3, the difference is in standardizing the input/output formats to allow automatic detection of the 3D content.

PS3 will support :
stereo 1080p @24Hz for Bluray3D movies
stereo 720p @50/60Hz for games

This is possible because the image processing the PS3 is all done in software.[/quote]
I would say the Sony would limit the PS3 to 720p for gaming in 3D. I highly doubt the PS3 has the grunt to run games in full HD 3D.
[quote name='BlackSharkfr' post='1044883' date='Apr 26 2010, 12:54 AM']The 3D part of hdmi1.4 uses exactly the same hardware as 1.3, the difference is in standardizing the input/output formats to allow automatic detection of the 3D content.



PS3 will support :

stereo 1080p @24Hz for Bluray3D movies

stereo 720p @50/60Hz for games



This is possible because the image processing the PS3 is all done in software.

I would say the Sony would limit the PS3 to 720p for gaming in 3D. I highly doubt the PS3 has the grunt to run games in full HD 3D.

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#12
Posted 04/26/2010 05:47 AM   
when the Nvidia 3DTV Play be available?
i am planning to buy 3dtv in next month, hope it would be released.
I did not find release date anywhere.
when the Nvidia 3DTV Play be available?

i am planning to buy 3dtv in next month, hope it would be released.

I did not find release date anywhere.

#13
Posted 04/26/2010 07:54 AM   
i read on the FAQ's before the end of summer usa
i read on the FAQ's before the end of summer usa

#14
Posted 04/26/2010 10:14 AM   
limited to 720p and twice the input lag
can't wait to get it /sweat.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':sweat:' />
limited to 720p and twice the input lag

can't wait to get it /sweat.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':sweat:' />

#15
Posted 04/26/2010 07:28 PM   
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