As far as I can tell there is only one 3D Vision monitor model capable of 144hz.
If they wanted and found the performance in 144hz mode adequate I would expect that
monitor to already support 3D Vision in 144hz.
The response time might not be good enough to support good 3D when using 144hz.
I'm guessing here. 3D Vision contains the refresh timings for each supported monitor to make
the glasses work as good as possible. It could be that 144hz is good enough for 2D but would be
poor if used with shutter glasses in 3D. I'm assuming the shutter glasses are not the upper limit.
Introducing faster glasses into the ecosystem might be slightly confusing and the market for the
fast glasses might be pretty small.
As far as I can tell there is only one 3D Vision monitor model capable of 144hz.
If they wanted and found the performance in 144hz mode adequate I would expect that
monitor to already support 3D Vision in 144hz.
The response time might not be good enough to support good 3D when using 144hz.
I'm guessing here. 3D Vision contains the refresh timings for each supported monitor to make
the glasses work as good as possible. It could be that 144hz is good enough for 2D but would be
poor if used with shutter glasses in 3D. I'm assuming the shutter glasses are not the upper limit.
Introducing faster glasses into the ecosystem might be slightly confusing and the market for the
fast glasses might be pretty small.
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Be wary when looking to purchase a new monitor for use with 3D Vision. Unless the monitor explicitly states it supports 3D Vision then I wouldn't count on Nvidia adding it later. 3DTV's can be added to support 3DTV Play but that is another matter. I know some people were upset because they couldn't use 3D Vision on the 24" Sony display but it never inferred 3D Vision support.
Be wary when looking to purchase a new monitor for use with 3D Vision. Unless the monitor explicitly states it supports 3D Vision then I wouldn't count on Nvidia adding it later. 3DTV's can be added to support 3DTV Play but that is another matter. I know some people were upset because they couldn't use 3D Vision on the 24" Sony display but it never inferred 3D Vision support.
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As far as I can tell there is only one 3D Vision monitor model capable of 144hz.
No, a least two: benq xl2411t supports 144hz from windows 7 driver and asus one.
any answer from nvidia support?
As far as I can tell there is only one 3D Vision monitor model capable of 144hz.
No, a least two: benq xl2411t supports 144hz from windows 7 driver and asus one.
This is not really an nvidia support channel.
There are some Nvidia posts but they are very rare.
As far as I can tell the monitors are working as intended
and such a feature request won't suddenly be realized or even considered.
It might not be technically possible for all I know.
My assumption would be that it's a bandwidth problem. Too much data to send in 3D. But I've no idea.
If you have this monitor, you can try the NVIDIA Pixel Clock Patcher, Be sure to read thru the thread. It has side effects such as breaking HDCP, you-tube/windows media center playback and etc...if I remember correctly, or those problems may have only been present on the Radeon version.
http://www.monitortests.com/forum/Thread-NVIDIA-Pixel-Clock-Patcher
My assumption would be that it's a bandwidth problem. Too much data to send in 3D. But I've no idea.
If you have this monitor, you can try the NVIDIA Pixel Clock Patcher, Be sure to read thru the thread. It has side effects such as breaking HDCP, you-tube/windows media center playback and etc...if I remember correctly, or those problems may have only been present on the Radeon version.
http://www.monitortests.com/forum/Thread-NVIDIA-Pixel-Clock-Patcher
It looks like the Benq XL2411T is the 2nd 144Hz monitor that is branded 3D Vision Ready, so it should support 144Hz/2D and 72Hz/3D like the Asus VG278HE. Everything I've read indicates full 72Hz stereo 3D support with 3D Vision with just 1 report otherwise that turned out to be unsubstantiated nonsense.
This review doesn't test 3D explicitly, but they do verify 144Hz functionality and the front picture of the bezel confirms 3D Vision branding/compatibility: http://pcmonitors.info/reviews/benq-xl2411t
As for bandwidth limitations, while 1920x1080p@144Hz may technically start running out-of-bounds for VESA spec, I don't think the wire itself is the limitation. Just as with HDMI, my guess is the signaling components have been the limiting factor and increasing frequencies there are enabling these higher bandwidths. We have more proof of this with all of the various "Korean" overclocked IPS panels running 2560x1440p @ 120Hz out-of-spec for VESA standards.
But back to the OP's question, no I don't think Nvidia is going to start supporting any 144Hz-capable panel anytime soon. It's my opinion they killed off CRT support to directly combat this. As others stated, they only support their own branded/certified 3D Vision panels which have specific timings and settings set in the driver. I imagine with LightBoost and the synchronization involved, these timings become more important. While there are EDID hacks to get 3D working on non-3D Vision certified displays, the results can often be unpredictable or problematic.
It looks like the Benq XL2411T is the 2nd 144Hz monitor that is branded 3D Vision Ready, so it should support 144Hz/2D and 72Hz/3D like the Asus VG278HE. Everything I've read indicates full 72Hz stereo 3D support with 3D Vision with just 1 report otherwise that turned out to be unsubstantiated nonsense.
This review doesn't test 3D explicitly, but they do verify 144Hz functionality and the front picture of the bezel confirms 3D Vision branding/compatibility: http://pcmonitors.info/reviews/benq-xl2411t
As for bandwidth limitations, while 1920x1080p@144Hz may technically start running out-of-bounds for VESA spec, I don't think the wire itself is the limitation. Just as with HDMI, my guess is the signaling components have been the limiting factor and increasing frequencies there are enabling these higher bandwidths. We have more proof of this with all of the various "Korean" overclocked IPS panels running 2560x1440p @ 120Hz out-of-spec for VESA standards.
But back to the OP's question, no I don't think Nvidia is going to start supporting any 144Hz-capable panel anytime soon. It's my opinion they killed off CRT support to directly combat this. As others stated, they only support their own branded/certified 3D Vision panels which have specific timings and settings set in the driver. I imagine with LightBoost and the synchronization involved, these timings become more important. While there are EDID hacks to get 3D working on non-3D Vision certified displays, the results can often be unpredictable or problematic.
If they wanted and found the performance in 144hz mode adequate I would expect that
monitor to already support 3D Vision in 144hz.
The response time might not be good enough to support good 3D when using 144hz.
I'm guessing here. 3D Vision contains the refresh timings for each supported monitor to make
the glasses work as good as possible. It could be that 144hz is good enough for 2D but would be
poor if used with shutter glasses in 3D. I'm assuming the shutter glasses are not the upper limit.
Introducing faster glasses into the ecosystem might be slightly confusing and the market for the
fast glasses might be pretty small.
Thanks to everybody using my assembler it warms my heart.
To have a critical piece of code that everyone can enjoy!
What more can you ask for?
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Asus ROG Swift PG278Q | 3D Vision 2
No, a least two: benq xl2411t supports 144hz from windows 7 driver and asus one.
any answer from nvidia support?
There are some Nvidia posts but they are very rare.
As far as I can tell the monitors are working as intended
and such a feature request won't suddenly be realized or even considered.
It might not be technically possible for all I know.
Thanks to everybody using my assembler it warms my heart.
To have a critical piece of code that everyone can enjoy!
What more can you ask for?
donations: ulfjalmbrant@hotmail.com
If you have this monitor, you can try the NVIDIA Pixel Clock Patcher, Be sure to read thru the thread. It has side effects such as breaking HDCP, you-tube/windows media center playback and etc...if I remember correctly, or those problems may have only been present on the Radeon version.
http://www.monitortests.com/forum/Thread-NVIDIA-Pixel-Clock-Patcher
This review doesn't test 3D explicitly, but they do verify 144Hz functionality and the front picture of the bezel confirms 3D Vision branding/compatibility: http://pcmonitors.info/reviews/benq-xl2411t
As for bandwidth limitations, while 1920x1080p@144Hz may technically start running out-of-bounds for VESA spec, I don't think the wire itself is the limitation. Just as with HDMI, my guess is the signaling components have been the limiting factor and increasing frequencies there are enabling these higher bandwidths. We have more proof of this with all of the various "Korean" overclocked IPS panels running 2560x1440p @ 120Hz out-of-spec for VESA standards.
But back to the OP's question, no I don't think Nvidia is going to start supporting any 144Hz-capable panel anytime soon. It's my opinion they killed off CRT support to directly combat this. As others stated, they only support their own branded/certified 3D Vision panels which have specific timings and settings set in the driver. I imagine with LightBoost and the synchronization involved, these timings become more important. While there are EDID hacks to get 3D working on non-3D Vision certified displays, the results can often be unpredictable or problematic.
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