120Hz Blu Ray Playback
Ok so i am tempted to jump on the 3d bandwagon, most likely with the asus 27" monitor when it is released
However i saw this FAQ that has put me off considerably: [url="http://nvidia.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/nvidia.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=2317&p_created=1231461562&p_sid=CcQXpn-j&p_accessibility=0&p_redirect=&p_srch=1&p_lva=&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPTEmcF9zb3J0X2J5PSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ9ODAsODAmcF9wcm9kcz0xMzImcF9jYXRzPTAmcF9wdj0xLjEzMiZwX2N2PSZwX3NlYXJjaF90eXBlPWFuc3dlcnMuc2VhcmNoX25sJnBfcGFnZT0x&p_li=&p_topview=1"]http://nvidia.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/nvidia....amp;p_topview=1[/url]

Can someone confirm whether or not it is possible to play blu rays at 120hz or if this FAQ is just refering to a bug with some players or something?

The reason i ask is due to playing a 24fps blu ray at 60hz monitor induces a judder which would not be present at a refresh rate that is a multiple of 24, 120 for example

So I would greatly appreciate if someone could shed some light on this for me

Many thanks

Chris
Ok so i am tempted to jump on the 3d bandwagon, most likely with the asus 27" monitor when it is released

However i saw this FAQ that has put me off considerably: http://nvidia.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/nvidia....amp;p_topview=1



Can someone confirm whether or not it is possible to play blu rays at 120hz or if this FAQ is just refering to a bug with some players or something?



The reason i ask is due to playing a 24fps blu ray at 60hz monitor induces a judder which would not be present at a refresh rate that is a multiple of 24, 120 for example



So I would greatly appreciate if someone could shed some light on this for me



Many thanks



Chris

#1
Posted 04/26/2010 01:51 PM   
This problem is caused by the HDCP encryption mandatory on all protected BluRay discs.
The first models of 120Hz screens only supported HDCP at 60Hz and not at 120Hz. It do not know if this issue has been corrected with the new 24" displays or if the upcoming 27" displays support HDCP at 120Hz.
Maybe someone else has the answer.

There should be an other work-around by stripping the protection off by using BluRay disc backup/ripping software, however I am not up to speed with these software so I can't recommend any.
This problem is caused by the HDCP encryption mandatory on all protected BluRay discs.

The first models of 120Hz screens only supported HDCP at 60Hz and not at 120Hz. It do not know if this issue has been corrected with the new 24" displays or if the upcoming 27" displays support HDCP at 120Hz.

Maybe someone else has the answer.



There should be an other work-around by stripping the protection off by using BluRay disc backup/ripping software, however I am not up to speed with these software so I can't recommend any.

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#2
Posted 04/26/2010 02:22 PM   
Ahh i see thanks for the explenation.
I am really getting fed up with all of this content protection on movies and games these days, the pirates get away with no problems whatsoever, and people who actually buy stuff have to put up with all the crap
for example, i got avatar on blu ray the other day and because fox decided to use some new encryption, it meant it did not play properly in arcsoft totalmedia theater, whereas if i had just gone and downloaded a 1080p rip i would have had no problems.
Argh!
rant over
anyways thanks again for the info, ill have to look into if the new ones will support hdcp at 120hz :)
Seriously though, what a ridiculous limitation!

edit: i wonder if using anydvd would allow blu rays to play at 120hz then, because theres no way im ripping a blu ray every time i want to watch it just to get judder free playback.
Ahh i see thanks for the explenation.

I am really getting fed up with all of this content protection on movies and games these days, the pirates get away with no problems whatsoever, and people who actually buy stuff have to put up with all the crap

for example, i got avatar on blu ray the other day and because fox decided to use some new encryption, it meant it did not play properly in arcsoft totalmedia theater, whereas if i had just gone and downloaded a 1080p rip i would have had no problems.

Argh!

rant over

anyways thanks again for the info, ill have to look into if the new ones will support hdcp at 120hz :)

Seriously though, what a ridiculous limitation!



edit: i wonder if using anydvd would allow blu rays to play at 120hz then, because theres no way im ripping a blu ray every time i want to watch it just to get judder free playback.

#3
Posted 04/26/2010 02:31 PM   
[quote name='ears1991' post='1045399' date='Apr 27 2010, 01:31 AM']Ahh i see thanks for the explenation.
I am really getting fed up with all of this content protection on movies and games these days, the pirates get away with no problems whatsoever, and people who actually buy stuff have to put up with all the crap
for example, i got avatar on blu ray the other day and because fox decided to use some new encryption, it meant it did not play properly in arcsoft totalmedia theater, whereas if i had just gone and downloaded a 1080p rip i would have had no problems.
Argh!
rant over
anyways thanks again for the info, ill have to look into if the new ones will support hdcp at 120hz :)
Seriously though, what a ridiculous limitation!

edit: i wonder if using anydvd would allow blu rays to play at 120hz then, because theres no way im ripping a blu ray every time i want to watch it just to get judder free playback.[/quote]

Yep AnyDVD would be your friend here, it can remove HDCP dynamically.
I purchased it specifically due to openess, I don't like being locked down on content I purchase.
[quote name='ears1991' post='1045399' date='Apr 27 2010, 01:31 AM']Ahh i see thanks for the explenation.

I am really getting fed up with all of this content protection on movies and games these days, the pirates get away with no problems whatsoever, and people who actually buy stuff have to put up with all the crap

for example, i got avatar on blu ray the other day and because fox decided to use some new encryption, it meant it did not play properly in arcsoft totalmedia theater, whereas if i had just gone and downloaded a 1080p rip i would have had no problems.

Argh!

rant over

anyways thanks again for the info, ill have to look into if the new ones will support hdcp at 120hz :)

Seriously though, what a ridiculous limitation!



edit: i wonder if using anydvd would allow blu rays to play at 120hz then, because theres no way im ripping a blu ray every time i want to watch it just to get judder free playback.



Yep AnyDVD would be your friend here, it can remove HDCP dynamically.

I purchased it specifically due to openess, I don't like being locked down on content I purchase.

#4
Posted 04/26/2010 03:42 PM   
Ahh its good to know that it works! thanks<br /> its a shame we should have to pay to enjoy our blu rays properly though
Ahh its good to know that it works! thanks<br />
its a shame we should have to pay to enjoy our blu rays properly though

#5
Posted 04/26/2010 03:56 PM   
[quote name='bullripper' post='1045439' date='Apr 26 2010, 04:42 PM']Yep AnyDVD would be your friend here, it can remove HDCP dynamically.
I purchased it specifically due to openess, I don't like being locked down on content I purchase.[/quote]


Yea i purchased it over a year ago anydvd and was worth every penny . Not only does it bypass HDCP but it solves alot of problems you may get from protection on the blu-rays.
[quote name='bullripper' post='1045439' date='Apr 26 2010, 04:42 PM']Yep AnyDVD would be your friend here, it can remove HDCP dynamically.

I purchased it specifically due to openess, I don't like being locked down on content I purchase.





Yea i purchased it over a year ago anydvd and was worth every penny . Not only does it bypass HDCP but it solves alot of problems you may get from protection on the blu-rays.

#6
Posted 04/26/2010 06:02 PM   
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