What do you guys think about this.....
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1525237/breakthrough-in-3d-technology-set-to-revolutionise-the-world-of-3d-content-and-delivery-systems#post_24553746 creating the 3D effect with the one eye closed method with glasses. Could be very awesome! TRY IT.
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1525237/breakthrough-in-3d-technology-set-to-revolutionise-the-world-of-3d-content-and-delivery-systems#post_24553746

creating the 3D effect with the one eye closed method with glasses.

Could be very awesome! TRY IT.

#1
Posted 04/01/2014 01:19 AM   
Thumbs down from me! I don't deny the 3D effect when viewing with one eye, I've tried it numerous times, but I don't see how glasses could make it more comfortable than just wearing an eye patch. It's also a different flavor of 3D, it's not as vivid as stereoscopic 3D. Stereoscopic 3D is sort of a unique sense in its own right with it's own neural pathways, and there's no way to substitute it. I suppose it's an option when only 2D is available, but again I doubt it would be better than an eye patch, and there's a reason we don't already do that. If we're used to seeing with two eyes, it's just not comfortable.
Thumbs down from me!

I don't deny the 3D effect when viewing with one eye, I've tried it numerous times, but I don't see how glasses could make it more comfortable than just wearing an eye patch. It's also a different flavor of 3D, it's not as vivid as stereoscopic 3D. Stereoscopic 3D is sort of a unique sense in its own right with it's own neural pathways, and there's no way to substitute it.

I suppose it's an option when only 2D is available, but again I doubt it would be better than an eye patch, and there's a reason we don't already do that. If we're used to seeing with two eyes, it's just not comfortable.

#2
Posted 04/01/2014 01:30 AM   
Seems like sensationalism... though I guess it shows how shitty movie theater 3D is that this could even be considered an alternative.
Seems like sensationalism... though I guess it shows how shitty movie theater 3D is that this could even be considered an alternative.

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#3
Posted 04/01/2014 02:09 AM   
I'm just saying it's better then 2D if it works. I've tried an eye patch and it's not very confortable after like 10 min because your right, our brains are used to seeing with both eyes, but these glasses will let BOTH eyes be open to create the same effect as viewing with one eye closed. I tried the eye patch with AC4 and it worked pretty damn well, but again felt uncomfortable after like 10 min. If they can make this work and make it comfortable then I'd rather use it then the fake BS nvidia solution. If a perfect world we would have Helix ready games for every DX11 game, and PS4, XboxOne, etc.
I'm just saying it's better then 2D if it works. I've tried an eye patch and it's not very confortable after like 10 min because your right, our brains are used to seeing with both eyes, but these glasses will let BOTH eyes be open to create the same effect as viewing with one eye closed. I tried the eye patch with AC4 and it worked pretty damn well, but again felt uncomfortable after like 10 min. If they can make this work and make it comfortable then I'd rather use it then the fake BS nvidia solution. If a perfect world we would have Helix ready games for every DX11 game, and PS4, XboxOne, etc.

#4
Posted 04/01/2014 02:24 AM   
Uh, no. Pretty sure we already have a name for this, it's called: 2D. What you are seeing is a high tech version of wiggle stereograms. [img]http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/150/e/3/amf_stairs_by_alanbecker-d677vzf.gif[/img]
Uh, no. Pretty sure we already have a name for this, it's called: 2D.


What you are seeing is a high tech version of wiggle stereograms.

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#5
Posted 04/01/2014 02:29 AM   
Its worse since your actually using just 1 camera. TBH, I think even depth buffer would be a god send in comparison.
Its worse since your actually using just 1 camera.

TBH, I think even depth buffer would be a god send in comparison.

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#6
Posted 04/01/2014 03:44 AM   
I think whatever you guys were looking at has been removed. I couldn't find any links except to what appeared to be Chinese 404 pages
I think whatever you guys were looking at has been removed. I couldn't find any links except to what appeared to be Chinese 404 pages

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#7
Posted 04/01/2014 04:23 AM   
Xinhua News Agency of China: Breakthrough in 3D technology set to revolutionise the world of 3D content and delivery systems. In what looks to be a development which could have far-reaching implications for movie theaters, TV manufacturers and home cinema enthusiasts, the multinational Chinese TCL Corporation, headquartered in Huizhou, Guangdong, China, has released details, inadvertently it seems, of a revolutionary 'monoscopic' 3D system which could render all current 3D systems obsolete overnight. Currently, all 3D systems require the use of 'stereoscopic' technology which is both expensive to implement in end-user systems, whether commercial or domestic, and which requires massive investment on the part of content creators in the fields of both movies and television. News of the new 'monoscopic' system broke late last week when information apparently destined for the company's in-house intranet was mistakenly published instead on its publicly-accessible Internet website. It appears that the relevant page has now been removed. The monoscopic technology apparently builds on the well-known phenomenon whereby, when viewed with one eye closed, regular 'flat' 2D content appears to have a strong 3-dimensional appearance, as can easily be checked at home simply by viewing content with sufficient inbuilt depth-cues with one eye closed. What this means is that with the aid of specially developed monoscopic 3D eyewear, any movie, TV program or other content can be viewed in 3D even though it was originally created in 2D. For the content makers, this means they can not only rid themselves of the considerable additional expense of authoring content with costly and cumbersome 3D camera rigs, but also that all current content can now become 3D content with no additional work or expense. For consumers, it means that all of their current DVDs and Blu-rays will suddenly become 3D -- even when viewed on a conventional 2D television screen. The monoscopic glasses apparently work by shutting off vision to each eye in turn at very high speeds, simulating the 'one eye shut' effect described above. All that the consumer needs is to buy pairs of the special monoscopic eyewear and he is all set, regardless of the type of display -- or content -- being viewed. The development is likely to be viewed by the industry as a double-edged sword. On the one hand, content will become easier and cheaper to produce but on the downside distributors will no longer be able to charge a premium for 3D versions of major movies and TV manufacturers will find that sales of new 3D displays simply evaporate. Consumers, however, are likely to welcome the move as the special monoscopic eyewear is likely to be highly affordable and certainly far more so than a new display or projector. Nobody from TCL was available for comment at close of business yesterday. Spokesman for the company, Mr Èzuòjù Xiàohuà, refused to confirm or deny what he described as 'unfounded rumors'. TCL Multimedia Technology Holdings stock closed at a high of 9.1 on the Hong Kong Stock Exchange.
Xinhua News Agency of China: Breakthrough in 3D technology set to revolutionise the world of 3D content and delivery systems.


In what looks to be a development which could have far-reaching implications for movie theaters, TV manufacturers and home cinema enthusiasts, the multinational Chinese TCL Corporation, headquartered in Huizhou, Guangdong, China, has released details, inadvertently it seems, of a revolutionary 'monoscopic' 3D system which could render all current 3D systems obsolete overnight.



Currently, all 3D systems require the use of 'stereoscopic' technology which is both expensive to implement in end-user systems, whether commercial or domestic, and which requires massive investment on the part of content creators in the fields of both movies and television.



News of the new 'monoscopic' system broke late last week when information apparently destined for the company's in-house intranet was mistakenly published instead on its publicly-accessible Internet website. It appears that the relevant page has now been removed.



The monoscopic technology apparently builds on the well-known phenomenon whereby, when viewed with one eye closed, regular 'flat' 2D content appears to have a strong 3-dimensional appearance, as can easily be checked at home simply by viewing content with sufficient inbuilt depth-cues with one eye closed. What this means is that with the aid of specially developed monoscopic 3D eyewear, any movie, TV program or other content can be viewed in 3D even though it was originally created in 2D. For the content makers, this means they can not only rid themselves of the considerable additional expense of authoring content with costly and cumbersome 3D camera rigs, but also that all current content can now become 3D content with no additional work or expense. For consumers, it means that all of their current DVDs and Blu-rays will suddenly become 3D -- even when viewed on a conventional 2D television screen.



The monoscopic glasses apparently work by shutting off vision to each eye in turn at very high speeds, simulating the 'one eye shut' effect described above. All that the consumer needs is to buy pairs of the special monoscopic eyewear and he is all set, regardless of the type of display -- or content -- being viewed.



The development is likely to be viewed by the industry as a double-edged sword. On the one hand, content will become easier and cheaper to produce but on the downside distributors will no longer be able to charge a premium for 3D versions of major movies and TV manufacturers will find that sales of new 3D displays simply evaporate. Consumers, however, are likely to welcome the move as the special monoscopic eyewear is likely to be highly affordable and certainly far more so than a new display or projector.



Nobody from TCL was available for comment at close of business yesterday. Spokesman for the company, Mr Èzuòjù Xiàohuà, refused to confirm or deny what he described as 'unfounded rumors'. TCL Multimedia Technology Holdings stock closed at a high of 9.1 on the Hong Kong Stock Exchange.

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#8
Posted 04/01/2014 04:25 AM   
oh, ok, I didn't read the article properly - I thought there was some sort of special demo. So how much better are these glasses meant to be than just wearing an eye patch? Because I just watched a random youtube video with one eye closed, and I could barely tell the difference (apart from the discomfort of having one eye closed). I *think* I saw a little bit of depth, but it could have been psychosomatic.
oh, ok, I didn't read the article properly - I thought there was some sort of special demo.

So how much better are these glasses meant to be than just wearing an eye patch? Because I just watched a random youtube video with one eye closed, and I could barely tell the difference (apart from the discomfort of having one eye closed). I *think* I saw a little bit of depth, but it could have been psychosomatic.

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#9
Posted 04/01/2014 04:47 AM   
[quote="Volnaiskra"]I just watched a random youtube video with one eye closed, and I could barely tell the difference[/quote] It takes 5-10 minutes for it to kick in I think. I would describe it not so much as seeing depth, as much as the image no longer looking 2D.
Volnaiskra said:I just watched a random youtube video with one eye closed, and I could barely tell the difference


It takes 5-10 minutes for it to kick in I think. I would describe it not so much as seeing depth, as much as the image no longer looking 2D.

#10
Posted 04/01/2014 06:14 AM   
Waiting 5-10 minutes for something to kinda sorta not look 2D anymore? That sounds like an absolute last resort to me. No disrespect to Conan, but I don't see this as something worth getting excited about. It'll be underwhelming for us 3D users who are accustomed to putting on glasses and seeing excellent 3D instantly. And it'll be very unattractive for 3D skeptics who are reluctant enough already to put on 3D glasses; asking them to put on 'almost-3D' glasses and patiently wait for the results to creep in isn't going to work.
Waiting 5-10 minutes for something to kinda sorta not look 2D anymore? That sounds like an absolute last resort to me.

No disrespect to Conan, but I don't see this as something worth getting excited about. It'll be underwhelming for us 3D users who are accustomed to putting on glasses and seeing excellent 3D instantly. And it'll be very unattractive for 3D skeptics who are reluctant enough already to put on 3D glasses; asking them to put on 'almost-3D' glasses and patiently wait for the results to creep in isn't going to work.

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#11
Posted 04/02/2014 12:19 AM   
haha. No disrespect taken. BTW, I see the effect instantly, but I find it uncomfortable after 10 min. This is not some replacement for real 3D as the article makes it out, but it could be a cool experience for games on the PS4, WiiU, or XboxOne that will never have 3D (project Morpheus not withstanding) Anyway, I think it's something cool, that might enhance some 2D content, but not replace true steroscopic experience. The reason I hate Nvidia "fake" 3D is because it's so obviously 2D layer open 2D layer, and it degrades the overall fidelity of the entire image. Almost looks like it's running at half res compared to real 3D.
haha. No disrespect taken. BTW, I see the effect instantly, but I find it uncomfortable after 10 min.

This is not some replacement for real 3D as the article makes it out, but it could be a cool experience for games on the PS4, WiiU, or XboxOne that will never have 3D (project Morpheus not withstanding) Anyway, I think it's something cool, that might enhance some 2D content, but not replace true steroscopic experience.

The reason I hate Nvidia "fake" 3D is because it's so obviously 2D layer open 2D layer, and it degrades the overall fidelity of the entire image. Almost looks like it's running at half res compared to real 3D.

#12
Posted 04/02/2014 03:00 AM   
I've really got to check out this fake 3D that everyone is talking about, so I know what you are all talking (and angry) about. What's a good game to try it in? btw, on the Thief 4 thread, some people were discussing looking through keyholes. The game is in 3D, but becomes 2D when peering through a keyhole. Someone pointed out that this is realistic, since you only ever look through a keyhole with one eye. Something still seemed wrong to me, because the keyhole in the game looked awfully flat, whereas if I looked around my room with an eye closed, things didn't seem anywhere near as flat. I guess what I was experiencing was the same effect that your article is about
I've really got to check out this fake 3D that everyone is talking about, so I know what you are all talking (and angry) about. What's a good game to try it in?

btw, on the Thief 4 thread, some people were discussing looking through keyholes. The game is in 3D, but becomes 2D when peering through a keyhole. Someone pointed out that this is realistic, since you only ever look through a keyhole with one eye.

Something still seemed wrong to me, because the keyhole in the game looked awfully flat, whereas if I looked around my room with an eye closed, things didn't seem anywhere near as flat. I guess what I was experiencing was the same effect that your article is about

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#13
Posted 04/02/2014 04:55 AM   
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