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Hi,

Alan Wake was (after the patch) one of the best games in 3d.
Now the Add-On American Nightmare is out! its great in 3d but has some major problem with lightning.
Has anyone tried it out, yet?

Also i made a thread over at the remedy forums. remedy is real cool when it comes to support of their games and they asked to help them find 3d vision bugs.
so if anyone wants the game better in 3d mode, help out with screenshots and info:

i started a thread over there:
http://community.remedygames.com/showthread.php?t=8744

also there is a thread for the original alan wake here:
http://community.remedygames.com/showthread.php?t=8005
Hi,



Alan Wake was (after the patch) one of the best games in 3d.

Now the Add-On American Nightmare is out! its great in 3d but has some major problem with lightning.

Has anyone tried it out, yet?



Also i made a thread over at the remedy forums. remedy is real cool when it comes to support of their games and they asked to help them find 3d vision bugs.

so if anyone wants the game better in 3d mode, help out with screenshots and info:



i started a thread over there:

http://community.remedygames.com/showthread.php?t=8744



also there is a thread for the original alan wake here:

http://community.remedygames.com/showthread.php?t=8005

#1
Posted 05/23/2012 04:59 PM   
I think (is a hunch /biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':biggrin:' /> ) that the problems (lights and shadows) in the original Alan Wake remaing in this add-on. I will try this today night and report back.

After the patch the game still have some lights and shadows problems (much less than before the 1.04 patch)...if you play with 15% depth (default value) and low convergence is perfect....but that's not 3D imo.
I think (is a hunch /biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':biggrin:' /> ) that the problems (lights and shadows) in the original Alan Wake remaing in this add-on. I will try this today night and report back.



After the patch the game still have some lights and shadows problems (much less than before the 1.04 patch)...if you play with 15% depth (default value) and low convergence is perfect....but that's not 3D imo.

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#2
Posted 05/23/2012 06:06 PM   
[quote name='DHR' date='23 May 2012 - 06:06 PM' timestamp='1337796413' post='1412437']
I think (is a hunch /biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':biggrin:' /> ) that the problems (lights and shadows) in the original Alan Wake remaing in this add-on. I will try this today night and report back.

After the patch the game still have some lights and shadows problems (much less than before the 1.04 patch)...if you play with 15% depth (default value) and low convergence is perfect....but that's not 3D imo.
[/quote]

you may be right, maybe its the original problem from alan wake but its much more visible in american nightmare. (seems there are much more light sources)
im happy your planing on getting it too. cant wait to hear if its the same for you.
[quote name='DHR' date='23 May 2012 - 06:06 PM' timestamp='1337796413' post='1412437']

I think (is a hunch /biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':biggrin:' /> ) that the problems (lights and shadows) in the original Alan Wake remaing in this add-on. I will try this today night and report back.



After the patch the game still have some lights and shadows problems (much less than before the 1.04 patch)...if you play with 15% depth (default value) and low convergence is perfect....but that's not 3D imo.





you may be right, maybe its the original problem from alan wake but its much more visible in american nightmare. (seems there are much more light sources)

im happy your planing on getting it too. cant wait to hear if its the same for you.

#3
Posted 05/23/2012 06:34 PM   
AWAN has the same problems that Alan Wake (before patch 1.04), and add:
- Moon in the wrong depth, and there are not shaders (VS or PS) for the moon (i use all dll versions)
- Some kind of Cloud in the sky in 2D (not shaders for this to)
- Other minor stuff

I play a little so maybe there are more problems in the road...

There is some screenshoot (100% depth and 0 convergence in Alan)
AWAN has the same problems that Alan Wake (before patch 1.04), and add:

- Moon in the wrong depth, and there are not shaders (VS or PS) for the moon (i use all dll versions)

- Some kind of Cloud in the sky in 2D (not shaders for this to)

- Other minor stuff



I play a little so maybe there are more problems in the road...



There is some screenshoot (100% depth and 0 convergence in Alan)

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#4
Posted 05/24/2012 02:02 AM   
[quote name='DHR' date='24 May 2012 - 02:02 AM' timestamp='1337824969' post='1412678']
AWAN has the same problems that Alan Wake (before patch 1.04), and add:
- Moon in the wrong depth, and there are not shaders (VS or PS) for the moon (i use all dll versions)
- Some kind of Cloud in the sky in 2D (not shaders for this to)
- Other minor stuff

I play a little so maybe there are more problems in the road...

There is some screenshoot (100% depth and 0 convergence in Alan)
[/quote]

im "glad" its not just me. i will make some more screens too and post them at the alan wake forum.
i hope they fix the issues. also i will post a link there to this forum.
[quote name='DHR' date='24 May 2012 - 02:02 AM' timestamp='1337824969' post='1412678']

AWAN has the same problems that Alan Wake (before patch 1.04), and add:

- Moon in the wrong depth, and there are not shaders (VS or PS) for the moon (i use all dll versions)

- Some kind of Cloud in the sky in 2D (not shaders for this to)

- Other minor stuff



I play a little so maybe there are more problems in the road...



There is some screenshoot (100% depth and 0 convergence in Alan)





im "glad" its not just me. i will make some more screens too and post them at the alan wake forum.

i hope they fix the issues. also i will post a link there to this forum.

#5
Posted 05/24/2012 11:30 PM   
Yesterday a play a little bit more.....i found some others problems with lights and shadows and noticed that enemies when appears has some extrange halos around in 3D /thumbsdown.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':thumbsdown:' />

If you ask, (with tears in my eyes again) i would rate this game "Poor".
Yesterday a play a little bit more.....i found some others problems with lights and shadows and noticed that enemies when appears has some extrange halos around in 3D /thumbsdown.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':thumbsdown:' />



If you ask, (with tears in my eyes again) i would rate this game "Poor".

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#6
Posted 05/25/2012 12:58 PM   
[quote name='DHR' date='25 May 2012 - 12:58 PM' timestamp='1337950720' post='1413494']
Yesterday a play a little bit more.....i found some others problems with lights and shadows and noticed that enemies when apears has some extrange halos around in 3D /thumbsdown.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':thumbsdown:' />

If you ask, (with tears in my eyes again) i would rate this game "Poor".
[/quote]

you can change the FOV to 100 under controls, this makes alan stand further away from the ecreen and allows for a little convergence (not too much, but still).
you are right the game has a lot of problems with 3d vision. it saddens me as alan wake after the patch was quite good.
i hope they fix it soon.
[quote name='DHR' date='25 May 2012 - 12:58 PM' timestamp='1337950720' post='1413494']

Yesterday a play a little bit more.....i found some others problems with lights and shadows and noticed that enemies when apears has some extrange halos around in 3D /thumbsdown.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':thumbsdown:' />



If you ask, (with tears in my eyes again) i would rate this game "Poor".





you can change the FOV to 100 under controls, this makes alan stand further away from the ecreen and allows for a little convergence (not too much, but still).

you are right the game has a lot of problems with 3d vision. it saddens me as alan wake after the patch was quite good.

i hope they fix it soon.

#7
Posted 05/25/2012 02:31 PM   
Is the new version the same as before with issues or worse?
Is the new version the same as before with issues or worse?

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#8
Posted 05/25/2012 03:15 PM   
[quote name='eqzitara' date='25 May 2012 - 03:15 PM' timestamp='1337958932' post='1413565']
Is the new version the same as before with issues or worse?
[/quote]

personally i think its playable in 3d vision. but the original alan wake (after patch 1.04) has much less problems.
the problems i found so far with american nightmare are:
moon and clouds are somehow out of place.
the dark presence seems out of place.
most lights seem out of place.

its not terrible, but its annoying. i play with 3d on as i find its still better and more atmospheric then without but its far from perfect.
the original alan wake was almost perfect after patch 1.04 -> american nightmare has more issues but its playable.
actually i didnt play alan wake before patch 1.04 (as i got 3d vision later) so i cant tell if its the same problems alan wake had before the patch.
but according to DHR the problems are the same as alan wake without patch (as i understood it)

actually today remedy released the first patch for AW:AM -> sadly it doesnt fix 3d vision.
the developers said they will try to fix it - but need feedback...
[quote name='eqzitara' date='25 May 2012 - 03:15 PM' timestamp='1337958932' post='1413565']

Is the new version the same as before with issues or worse?





personally i think its playable in 3d vision. but the original alan wake (after patch 1.04) has much less problems.

the problems i found so far with american nightmare are:

moon and clouds are somehow out of place.

the dark presence seems out of place.

most lights seem out of place.



its not terrible, but its annoying. i play with 3d on as i find its still better and more atmospheric then without but its far from perfect.

the original alan wake was almost perfect after patch 1.04 -> american nightmare has more issues but its playable.

actually i didnt play alan wake before patch 1.04 (as i got 3d vision later) so i cant tell if its the same problems alan wake had before the patch.

but according to DHR the problems are the same as alan wake without patch (as i understood it)



actually today remedy released the first patch for AW:AM -> sadly it doesnt fix 3d vision.

the developers said they will try to fix it - but need feedback...

#9
Posted 05/25/2012 06:11 PM   
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