3D surround - Only one monitor locks into 3D in Surround, the adapter'ed one...
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I've thought I had all the pieces for my glorious 1x3 3D surround, but I seem to still be having problems. I have three identical monitors, the 27 inch asus 144hz monitors, connected with two dvi ports and one dp-to-dual link dvi with an active usb powered adaptor from startech. The card is a 980 ti. Am I missing something? Do I have to use two more expensive DisplayPort adapters to make this work? (From below) Each DVI seems to be working ok on it's own. I can even Surround the two DVI's together and get 3D Surround working. But when I add the DP-to-DVI monitor in the array and try the wizard, I get the red text unsupported message. I can continue through the wizard and try the test image, where the 3D switching seems out of sync. The adapter is [url]http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004I6L6DW?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s01[/url] I may return that and get the Accell I've seen recommended.
I've thought I had all the pieces for my glorious 1x3 3D surround, but I seem to still be having problems. I have three identical monitors, the 27 inch asus 144hz monitors, connected with two dvi ports and one dp-to-dual link dvi with an active usb powered adaptor from startech. The card is a 980 ti. Am I missing something? Do I have to use two more expensive DisplayPort adapters to make this work?

(From below)
Each DVI seems to be working ok on it's own. I can even Surround the two DVI's together and get 3D Surround working. But when I add the DP-to-DVI monitor in the array and try the wizard, I get the red text unsupported message. I can continue through the wizard and try the test image, where the 3D switching seems out of sync.

The adapter is http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004I6L6DW?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s01

I may return that and get the Accell I've seen recommended.

i5-3570k
Gigabyte 980ti
3 x Asus VG278HE
3D Surround (in progress)
ASRock Z77 EXTREME4

#1
Posted 01/13/2016 01:24 PM   
You need to make sure that each Dual Link output is working ok with a single monitor. You also need to do the same with the active adapter (must be the 330MHz version) Provided that they all work individually, they should all work together. It can be quirky, I'll find the post that might explain this quirkyness. Read this thread from #11 on https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/903217/?comment=4755528
You need to make sure that each Dual Link output is working ok with a single monitor.

You also need to do the same with the active adapter (must be the 330MHz version)

Provided that they all work individually, they should all work together.

It can be quirky, I'll find the post that might explain this quirkyness.

Read this thread from #11 on
https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/903217/?comment=4755528

#2
Posted 01/13/2016 01:57 PM   
Thanks D-Man11. In reading that, I think maybe this isn't a very good Dual-link adapter. --- Now that I'm not typing on my phone, I can explain better. :-) Each DVI seems to be working ok on it's own. I can even Surround the two DVI's together and get 3D Surround working. But when I add the DP-to-DVI monitor in the array and try the wizard, I get the red text unsupported message. I can continue through the wizard and try the test image, where the 3D switching seems out of sync. The adapter is [url]http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004I6L6DW?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s01[/url] I may return that and get the Accell I've seen recommended.
Thanks D-Man11. In reading that, I think maybe this isn't a very good Dual-link adapter.

---

Now that I'm not typing on my phone, I can explain better. :-)

Each DVI seems to be working ok on it's own. I can even Surround the two DVI's together and get 3D Surround working. But when I add the DP-to-DVI monitor in the array and try the wizard, I get the red text unsupported message. I can continue through the wizard and try the test image, where the 3D switching seems out of sync.

The adapter is http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004I6L6DW?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s01

I may return that and get the Accell I've seen recommended.

i5-3570k
Gigabyte 980ti
3 x Asus VG278HE
3D Surround (in progress)
ASRock Z77 EXTREME4

#3
Posted 01/13/2016 02:29 PM   
Since you are a new poster, you should know that not all games work very well in 3D out of the box. In fact, not that many at all. But the thing is, the community here has stereoscopic compatibility patches that make a lot of games very enjoyable in 3D http://helixmod.blogspot.com/2013/10/game-list-automatically-updated.html Have fun.
Since you are a new poster, you should know that not all games work very well in 3D out of the box. In fact, not that many at all. But the thing is, the community here has stereoscopic compatibility patches that make a lot of games very enjoyable in 3D


http://helixmod.blogspot.com/2013/10/game-list-automatically-updated.html


Have fun.

#4
Posted 01/13/2016 02:37 PM   
Well aware! New poster but not my first 3D rodeo. :-) I already used those settings on Rocket League with my first 3D display.
Well aware! New poster but not my first 3D rodeo. :-)

I already used those settings on Rocket League with my first 3D display.

i5-3570k
Gigabyte 980ti
3 x Asus VG278HE
3D Surround (in progress)
ASRock Z77 EXTREME4

#5
Posted 01/13/2016 02:42 PM   
I've had time to complete the suggested testing. Let me know your thoughts. The interesting behavior is [u]underlined[/u]. [b]Cases 1, 2, and 3[/b]: The two DVI monitors work fine, both by themselves in 3D and in 3D Surround. [b]Case 4[/b]: The DP-2-DVI monitor works on its own in 3D... sorta. When I try this monitor by itself, [u]the light on the emitter turns on and off about five times or more before settling into an on state.[/u] The glasses also engage and disengage as the emitter switches on and off. Now, I'm not getting the unsupported message any more when all three are Surrounded and in 3D. Set the surround to 120hz. That's progress. But... [b]Case 5[/b]: [u]When all three are in 3D Surround, the emitter turns on and off like Case 4 above, but 3D fails back to 2D after a few cycles of on and off.[/u]
I've had time to complete the suggested testing. Let me know your thoughts. The interesting behavior is underlined.

Cases 1, 2, and 3: The two DVI monitors work fine, both by themselves in 3D and in 3D Surround.

Case 4: The DP-2-DVI monitor works on its own in 3D... sorta. When I try this monitor by itself, the light on the emitter turns on and off about five times or more before settling into an on state. The glasses also engage and disengage as the emitter switches on and off.

Now, I'm not getting the unsupported message any more when all three are Surrounded and in 3D. Set the surround to 120hz. That's progress. But...

Case 5: When all three are in 3D Surround, the emitter turns on and off like Case 4 above, but 3D fails back to 2D after a few cycles of on and off.

i5-3570k
Gigabyte 980ti
3 x Asus VG278HE
3D Surround (in progress)
ASRock Z77 EXTREME4

#6
Posted 01/14/2016 02:20 AM   
If you read the reviews on the Gigabyte GPUs with 6 video outputs on them, there are quite a lot that mention them failing. So it might be a bad card, providing that the adapter is OK. Looking at the specs, it appears to be ok. http://www.startech.com/AV/Displayport-Converters/Mini-DisplayPort-to-DVI-Dual-Link-Active-Adapter-USB-Powered~MDP2DVID Have you tried various DP outputs? One of them is tied to the DVI, so it's not supposed to be used at the same time. Also in the other thread I linked, you can see that both of them have a little trouble getting it to kick in. Also are you plugging the DP adapter into the PC, if so, use a USB 3.0, it has more available power.
If you read the reviews on the Gigabyte GPUs with 6 video outputs on them, there are quite a lot that mention them failing. So it might be a bad card, providing that the adapter is OK.

Looking at the specs, it appears to be ok. http://www.startech.com/AV/Displayport-Converters/Mini-DisplayPort-to-DVI-Dual-Link-Active-Adapter-USB-Powered~MDP2DVID



Have you tried various DP outputs? One of them is tied to the DVI, so it's not supposed to be used at the same time.

Also in the other thread I linked, you can see that both of them have a little trouble getting it to kick in.

Also are you plugging the DP adapter into the PC, if so, use a USB 3.0, it has more available power.

#7
Posted 01/14/2016 03:31 AM   
Are the emitter and the adapter plugged into the same usb hub? Check in device manager to see if they are on the same root hub and if so, try to separate them (maybe plug the emitter into a front usb port). The emitter can be power hungry and may not be getting enough juice when the DP-DVI adapter is in use on the same hub.
Are the emitter and the adapter plugged into the same usb hub? Check in device manager to see if they are on the same root hub and if so, try to separate them (maybe plug the emitter into a front usb port). The emitter can be power hungry and may not be getting enough juice when the DP-DVI adapter is in use on the same hub.

#8
Posted 01/14/2016 05:19 AM   
[quote="D-Man11"]If you read the reviews on the Gigabyte GPUs with 6 video outputs on them, there are quite a lot that mention them failing. So it might be a bad card, providing that the adapter is OK. Looking at the specs, it appears to be ok. http://www.startech.com/AV/Displayport-Converters/Mini-DisplayPort-to-DVI-Dual-Link-Active-Adapter-USB-Powered~MDP2DVID Have you tried various DP outputs? One of them is tied to the DVI, so it's not supposed to be used at the same time. Also in the other thread I linked, you can see that both of them have a little trouble getting it to kick in. Also are you plugging the DP adapter into the PC, if so, use a USB 3.0, it has more available power.[/quote] I have the exact same adapter.... and it [color="orange"]DOESN'T WORK[/color] for 3D Vision on my Asus 27" VG278HE monitor in 3D, but works in 2D. However the Adapter DOES work in 3D Vision on my Samsung 21' 2233rz monitors. I had to buy another adapter for my 3D Vision 2 Monitors, naming this one: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Accell-New-DP-Dual-Active-Adapter/dp/B00856WJH8 This one is working perfectly fine for me. Indeed it does the 2D->3D switching 2,3 times until it becomes stable and 3D vision kicks in. With the StarTech one I wasn't able to make it to "stay" in 3D mode. Hope this helps.
D-Man11 said:If you read the reviews on the Gigabyte GPUs with 6 video outputs on them, there are quite a lot that mention them failing. So it might be a bad card, providing that the adapter is OK.

Looking at the specs, it appears to be ok. http://www.startech.com/AV/Displayport-Converters/Mini-DisplayPort-to-DVI-Dual-Link-Active-Adapter-USB-Powered~MDP2DVID


Have you tried various DP outputs? One of them is tied to the DVI, so it's not supposed to be used at the same time.

Also in the other thread I linked, you can see that both of them have a little trouble getting it to kick in.

Also are you plugging the DP adapter into the PC, if so, use a USB 3.0, it has more available power.


I have the exact same adapter.... and it DOESN'T WORK for 3D Vision on my Asus 27" VG278HE monitor in 3D, but works in 2D.
However the Adapter DOES work in 3D Vision on my Samsung 21' 2233rz monitors.

I had to buy another adapter for my 3D Vision 2 Monitors, naming this one:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Accell-New-DP-Dual-Active-Adapter/dp/B00856WJH8

This one is working perfectly fine for me.
Indeed it does the 2D->3D switching 2,3 times until it becomes stable and 3D vision kicks in.
With the StarTech one I wasn't able to make it to "stay" in 3D mode.

Hope this helps.

1x Palit RTX 2080Ti Pro Gaming OC(watercooled and overclocked to hell)
3x 3D Vision Ready Asus VG278HE monitors (5760x1080).
Intel i9 9900K (overclocked to 5.3 and watercooled ofc).
Asus Maximus XI Hero Mobo.
16 GB Team Group T-Force Dark Pro DDR4 @ 3600.
Lots of Disks:
- Raid 0 - 256GB Sandisk Extreme SSD.
- Raid 0 - WD Black - 2TB.
- SanDisk SSD PLUS 480 GB.
- Intel 760p 256GB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD.
Creative Sound Blaster Z.
Windows 10 x64 Pro.
etc


My website with my fixes and OpenGL to 3D Vision wrapper:
http://3dsurroundgaming.com

(If you like some of the stuff that I've done and want to donate something, you can do it with PayPal at tavyhome@gmail.com)

#9
Posted 01/14/2016 10:22 AM   
That is a great help, everyone. I'll give these recommendations a try, but I think Helifax might have the answer. It seems a miracle I could get it to do 3D at all. Thanks again!
That is a great help, everyone. I'll give these recommendations a try, but I think Helifax might have the answer. It seems a miracle I could get it to do 3D at all. Thanks again!

i5-3570k
Gigabyte 980ti
3 x Asus VG278HE
3D Surround (in progress)
ASRock Z77 EXTREME4

#10
Posted 01/14/2016 12:20 PM   
My problems took an interesting turn. The recommended Accell adapter locks the monitor into 3D correctly, but the two DVI monitors do not. The switching behavior still occurs first. The game goes on normally with only one screen in 3D Surround. I'm going to try rearranging the monitors' position in the array. The adapter is currently the left monitor. I've got a hunch (based on nothing) making it the right monitor may resolve this.
My problems took an interesting turn. The recommended Accell adapter locks the monitor into 3D correctly, but the two DVI monitors do not. The switching behavior still occurs first. The game goes on normally with only one screen in 3D Surround.

I'm going to try rearranging the monitors' position in the array. The adapter is currently the left monitor. I've got a hunch (based on nothing) making it the right monitor may resolve this.

i5-3570k
Gigabyte 980ti
3 x Asus VG278HE
3D Surround (in progress)
ASRock Z77 EXTREME4

#11
Posted 01/16/2016 02:36 PM   
So, rearranging which monitor gets the adapter has no effect on which monitor gets the 3D. Now the center monitor is adaptered, and the center and right Surround and 3D together with no issue (same switching behavior but eventually works). But add in the left, and only left goes into 3D. I may revisit D-Man's comment about one Displayport being tied to DVI, but I have a few more permutations to try first. Whatever is happening now is not related to the adapter's fit to this purpose. This is now something else. (Thanks Halifax for the adapter suggestion.)
So, rearranging which monitor gets the adapter has no effect on which monitor gets the 3D. Now the center monitor is adaptered, and the center and right Surround and 3D together with no issue (same switching behavior but eventually works). But add in the left, and only left goes into 3D. I may revisit D-Man's comment about one Displayport being tied to DVI, but I have a few more permutations to try first.

Whatever is happening now is not related to the adapter's fit to this purpose. This is now something else. (Thanks Halifax for the adapter suggestion.)

i5-3570k
Gigabyte 980ti
3 x Asus VG278HE
3D Surround (in progress)
ASRock Z77 EXTREME4

#12
Posted 01/17/2016 12:19 AM   
[quote="edgeofblade"]I may revisit D-Man's comment about one Displayport being tied to DVI, but I have a few more permutations to try first.[/quote] This should be in your owner's manual. The only way that they can have "SIX" outputs vs the standard Five, is by tying them together. This limits the outputs that can be used together. [img]http://c1.neweggimages.com/BizIntell/item/14/125/14-125-682/f02.jpg[/img] Flex Display technology [url]http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=5472#ov[/url]
edgeofblade said:I may revisit D-Man's comment about one Displayport being tied to DVI, but I have a few more permutations to try first.


This should be in your owner's manual. The only way that they can have "SIX" outputs vs the standard Five, is by tying them together. This limits the outputs that can be used together.

Image

Flex Display technology

http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=5472#ov

#13
Posted 01/17/2016 12:40 AM   
[quote="edgeofblade"]So, rearranging which monitor gets the adapter has no effect on which monitor gets the 3D. Now the center monitor is adaptered, and the center and right Surround and 3D together with no issue (same switching behavior but eventually works). But add in the left, and only left goes into 3D. I may revisit D-Man's comment about one Displayport being tied to DVI, but I have a few more permutations to try first. Whatever is happening now is not related to the adapter's fit to this purpose. This is now something else. (Thanks Halifax for the adapter suggestion.)[/quote] Hmm, not sure what is going there, but: I have them hooked up as follows: - Center + Right is on the DL-DVI - Left is on the DP But I am using 2x780Ti cards... I wonder if it is something related to what type of GPU you are using...Hmmm
edgeofblade said:So, rearranging which monitor gets the adapter has no effect on which monitor gets the 3D. Now the center monitor is adaptered, and the center and right Surround and 3D together with no issue (same switching behavior but eventually works). But add in the left, and only left goes into 3D. I may revisit D-Man's comment about one Displayport being tied to DVI, but I have a few more permutations to try first.

Whatever is happening now is not related to the adapter's fit to this purpose. This is now something else. (Thanks Halifax for the adapter suggestion.)


Hmm, not sure what is going there, but:

I have them hooked up as follows:
- Center + Right is on the DL-DVI
- Left is on the DP

But I am using 2x780Ti cards... I wonder if it is something related to what type of GPU you are using...Hmmm

1x Palit RTX 2080Ti Pro Gaming OC(watercooled and overclocked to hell)
3x 3D Vision Ready Asus VG278HE monitors (5760x1080).
Intel i9 9900K (overclocked to 5.3 and watercooled ofc).
Asus Maximus XI Hero Mobo.
16 GB Team Group T-Force Dark Pro DDR4 @ 3600.
Lots of Disks:
- Raid 0 - 256GB Sandisk Extreme SSD.
- Raid 0 - WD Black - 2TB.
- SanDisk SSD PLUS 480 GB.
- Intel 760p 256GB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD.
Creative Sound Blaster Z.
Windows 10 x64 Pro.
etc


My website with my fixes and OpenGL to 3D Vision wrapper:
http://3dsurroundgaming.com

(If you like some of the stuff that I've done and want to donate something, you can do it with PayPal at tavyhome@gmail.com)

#14
Posted 01/17/2016 03:17 AM   
[quote="D-Man11"][quote="edgeofblade"]I may revisit D-Man's comment about one Displayport being tied to DVI, but I have a few more permutations to try first.[/quote] This should be in your owner's manual. The only way that they can have "SIX" outputs vs the standard Five, is by tying them together. This limits the outputs that can be used together. [img]http://c1.neweggimages.com/BizIntell/item/14/125/14-125-682/f02.jpg[/img] Flex Display technology [url]http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=5472#ov[/url] [/quote] ^ The first diagram is my set-up. I will add that I'm starting to get kernel crashes when 3D tries to engage. Then it apparently recovers into 2D.
D-Man11 said:
edgeofblade said:I may revisit D-Man's comment about one Displayport being tied to DVI, but I have a few more permutations to try first.


This should be in your owner's manual. The only way that they can have "SIX" outputs vs the standard Five, is by tying them together. This limits the outputs that can be used together.

Image

Flex Display technology

http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=5472#ov



^ The first diagram is my set-up. I will add that I'm starting to get kernel crashes when 3D tries to engage. Then it apparently recovers into 2D.

i5-3570k
Gigabyte 980ti
3 x Asus VG278HE
3D Surround (in progress)
ASRock Z77 EXTREME4

#15
Posted 01/17/2016 04:04 AM   
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