Is My H5360 EDID Borked? I Am So Confused!
So, I am trying to decide if my 3D Graphics woes are due to my H5360 projector, Cyberlink PowerDVD 10 Ultra, or something else.

Some of the issues I have are duplicated in threads where it is decided that the EDID is corrupted and it needs to go back to Acer to be addressed. Here are some observations that I am hoping others can tell me if they are normal, or if they are signs that I do have an issue.

Device Manager - I see Generic Non PnP Monitor. I force the H5360 EDID over ride driver every time the projector gets unplugged.
Nvidia Control Panel - Here I see under the resolution and multiple display tab only Digital Display, not H5360. Under the "Set Up Stereoscopic 3D" tab, I see the display actually identified as the H5360, and it is properly identified when I run the 3D Setup Wizard.

I have had the projector for just over a month. All seemed to be working fine until last week, when, for no reason I can isolate, the 3D stopped working. Once I forced the driver in Device Manager, and made a custom resolution I could get 3D in Games working again. I also watched a couple of DVDs in PowerDVD 10 Ultra converted to 3D. I got my first actual 3D Movie, Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs yesterday, but it does not work. Ordinary DVDs will not work in 3D now either.

Anyone point out anything which will confirm if the projector is the problem?

My Rig is below.
So, I am trying to decide if my 3D Graphics woes are due to my H5360 projector, Cyberlink PowerDVD 10 Ultra, or something else.



Some of the issues I have are duplicated in threads where it is decided that the EDID is corrupted and it needs to go back to Acer to be addressed. Here are some observations that I am hoping others can tell me if they are normal, or if they are signs that I do have an issue.



Device Manager - I see Generic Non PnP Monitor. I force the H5360 EDID over ride driver every time the projector gets unplugged.

Nvidia Control Panel - Here I see under the resolution and multiple display tab only Digital Display, not H5360. Under the "Set Up Stereoscopic 3D" tab, I see the display actually identified as the H5360, and it is properly identified when I run the 3D Setup Wizard.



I have had the projector for just over a month. All seemed to be working fine until last week, when, for no reason I can isolate, the 3D stopped working. Once I forced the driver in Device Manager, and made a custom resolution I could get 3D in Games working again. I also watched a couple of DVDs in PowerDVD 10 Ultra converted to 3D. I got my first actual 3D Movie, Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs yesterday, but it does not work. Ordinary DVDs will not work in 3D now either.



Anyone point out anything which will confirm if the projector is the problem?



My Rig is below.

i7 860 21 X 200 = 4.2GHz at 1.4V, MSI P55-GD85, 2 X 4GB Kingston DDR3-1600, GTX 590 with XSPC Razer block, 2 X Corsair Force 3 120GB in RAID 0,4 X Barracuda SATA 7200.10 250GB RAID 0, 2 X Barracuda SATA 7200.11 500 GB RAID 0 for Back Ups, OCZ ZX 1250W PSU, Z-5500s, Pioneer 212D DVD, Lamptron FCT, Windows 7 X64 Home Premium, HAF X. Vision Quest 24" WS LCD, Optoma H66 Projector

Cooling: CPU - Thermochill PA120.2, DC3.25/XSPC Res top, Apogee Xt extreme. Vid Cards - Exos 2, XSPC Razer.

#1
Posted 12/22/2010 12:46 AM   
[edit] sorry for the double post
[edit] sorry for the double post

MSI-7578 motherboard

AMD Phenom II x6 1055T @ 2.8ghz

8 gig of DDR3 Ram

Dual GTX 470's in SLI

950w power supply

Windows 7 64bit Ultimate

Coolermaster HAF FULL AMD Edition tower

#2
Posted 12/22/2010 01:11 AM   
[quote name='Capt Proton' date='21 December 2010 - 04:46 PM' timestamp='1292978768' post='1164614']
So, I am trying to decide if my 3D Graphics woes are due to my H5360 projector, Cyberlink PowerDVD 10 Ultra, or something else.

Some of the issues I have are duplicated in threads where it is decided that the EDID is corrupted and it needs to go back to Acer to be addressed. Here are some observations that I am hoping others can tell me if they are normal, or if they are signs that I do have an issue.

Device Manager - I see Generic Non PnP Monitor. I force the H5360 EDID over ride driver every time the projector gets unplugged.
Nvidia Control Panel - Here I see under the resolution and multiple display tab only Digital Display, not H5360. Under the "Set Up Stereoscopic 3D" tab, I see the display actually identified as the H5360, and it is properly identified when I run the 3D Setup Wizard.

I have had the projector for just over a month. All seemed to be working fine until last week, when, for no reason I can isolate, the 3D stopped working. Once I forced the driver in Device Manager, and made a custom resolution I could get 3D in Games working again. I also watched a couple of DVDs in PowerDVD 10 Ultra converted to 3D. I got my first actual 3D Movie, Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs yesterday, but it does not work. Ordinary DVDs will not work in 3D now either.

Anyone point out anything which will confirm if the projector is the problem?

My Rig is below.
[/quote]

I think that the HDMI port on these goes to crap, I had the exact same issues, and switched to a VGA cable with a DVI adapter and now it's detected and everything is fine except it won't let me watch the videos in 3d at 3dvisionlive.com.
My specs
Machine name: XDARK

Video Card: GTX 470
Operating System: Windows 7 xDarkâ„¢ v3.5 RG Deluxe 64-bit (6.1, Build 7600)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd.
System Model: M68MT-D3
BIOS: Award Modular BIOS v6.00PG
Processor: AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1055T Processor (6 CPUs), ~2.8GHz
Memory: 8192MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 8190MB RAM
Page File: 2272MB used, 14106MB available
Windows Dir: C:\Windows
DirectX Version: DirectX 11
[quote name='Capt Proton' date='21 December 2010 - 04:46 PM' timestamp='1292978768' post='1164614']

So, I am trying to decide if my 3D Graphics woes are due to my H5360 projector, Cyberlink PowerDVD 10 Ultra, or something else.



Some of the issues I have are duplicated in threads where it is decided that the EDID is corrupted and it needs to go back to Acer to be addressed. Here are some observations that I am hoping others can tell me if they are normal, or if they are signs that I do have an issue.



Device Manager - I see Generic Non PnP Monitor. I force the H5360 EDID over ride driver every time the projector gets unplugged.

Nvidia Control Panel - Here I see under the resolution and multiple display tab only Digital Display, not H5360. Under the "Set Up Stereoscopic 3D" tab, I see the display actually identified as the H5360, and it is properly identified when I run the 3D Setup Wizard.



I have had the projector for just over a month. All seemed to be working fine until last week, when, for no reason I can isolate, the 3D stopped working. Once I forced the driver in Device Manager, and made a custom resolution I could get 3D in Games working again. I also watched a couple of DVDs in PowerDVD 10 Ultra converted to 3D. I got my first actual 3D Movie, Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs yesterday, but it does not work. Ordinary DVDs will not work in 3D now either.



Anyone point out anything which will confirm if the projector is the problem?



My Rig is below.





I think that the HDMI port on these goes to crap, I had the exact same issues, and switched to a VGA cable with a DVI adapter and now it's detected and everything is fine except it won't let me watch the videos in 3d at 3dvisionlive.com.

My specs

Machine name: XDARK



Video Card: GTX 470

Operating System: Windows 7 xDarkâ„¢ v3.5 RG Deluxe 64-bit (6.1, Build 7600)

Language: English (Regional Setting: English)

System Manufacturer: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd.

System Model: M68MT-D3

BIOS: Award Modular BIOS v6.00PG

Processor: AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1055T Processor (6 CPUs), ~2.8GHz

Memory: 8192MB RAM

Available OS Memory: 8190MB RAM

Page File: 2272MB used, 14106MB available

Windows Dir: C:\Windows

DirectX Version: DirectX 11

MSI-7578 motherboard

AMD Phenom II x6 1055T @ 2.8ghz

8 gig of DDR3 Ram

Dual GTX 470's in SLI

950w power supply

Windows 7 64bit Ultimate

Coolermaster HAF FULL AMD Edition tower

#3
Posted 12/22/2010 01:11 AM   
[quote name='BigdawgJA' date='21 December 2010 - 09:11 PM' timestamp='1292980294' post='1164632']
I think that the HDMI port on these goes to crap, I had the exact same issues, and switched to a VGA cable with a DVI adapter and now it's detected and everything is fine except it won't let me watch the videos in 3d at 3dvisionlive.com.
My specs
Machine name: XDARK

Video Card: GTX 470
Operating System: Windows 7 xDarkâ„¢ v3.5 RG Deluxe 64-bit (6.1, Build 7600)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd.
System Model: M68MT-D3
BIOS: Award Modular BIOS v6.00PG
Processor: AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1055T Processor (6 CPUs), ~2.8GHz
Memory: 8192MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 8190MB RAM
Page File: 2272MB used, 14106MB available
Windows Dir: C:\Windows
DirectX Version: DirectX 11
[/quote]

Tried VGA hook up as well. No change.
[quote name='BigdawgJA' date='21 December 2010 - 09:11 PM' timestamp='1292980294' post='1164632']

I think that the HDMI port on these goes to crap, I had the exact same issues, and switched to a VGA cable with a DVI adapter and now it's detected and everything is fine except it won't let me watch the videos in 3d at 3dvisionlive.com.

My specs

Machine name: XDARK



Video Card: GTX 470

Operating System: Windows 7 xDarkâ„¢ v3.5 RG Deluxe 64-bit (6.1, Build 7600)

Language: English (Regional Setting: English)

System Manufacturer: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd.

System Model: M68MT-D3

BIOS: Award Modular BIOS v6.00PG

Processor: AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1055T Processor (6 CPUs), ~2.8GHz

Memory: 8192MB RAM

Available OS Memory: 8190MB RAM

Page File: 2272MB used, 14106MB available

Windows Dir: C:\Windows

DirectX Version: DirectX 11





Tried VGA hook up as well. No change.

i7 860 21 X 200 = 4.2GHz at 1.4V, MSI P55-GD85, 2 X 4GB Kingston DDR3-1600, GTX 590 with XSPC Razer block, 2 X Corsair Force 3 120GB in RAID 0,4 X Barracuda SATA 7200.10 250GB RAID 0, 2 X Barracuda SATA 7200.11 500 GB RAID 0 for Back Ups, OCZ ZX 1250W PSU, Z-5500s, Pioneer 212D DVD, Lamptron FCT, Windows 7 X64 Home Premium, HAF X. Vision Quest 24" WS LCD, Optoma H66 Projector

Cooling: CPU - Thermochill PA120.2, DC3.25/XSPC Res top, Apogee Xt extreme. Vid Cards - Exos 2, XSPC Razer.

#4
Posted 12/22/2010 02:20 AM   
C'mon. Someone with a H5360 check Device Manager and tell me what name is being assigned to the projector.
C'mon. Someone with a H5360 check Device Manager and tell me what name is being assigned to the projector.

i7 860 21 X 200 = 4.2GHz at 1.4V, MSI P55-GD85, 2 X 4GB Kingston DDR3-1600, GTX 590 with XSPC Razer block, 2 X Corsair Force 3 120GB in RAID 0,4 X Barracuda SATA 7200.10 250GB RAID 0, 2 X Barracuda SATA 7200.11 500 GB RAID 0 for Back Ups, OCZ ZX 1250W PSU, Z-5500s, Pioneer 212D DVD, Lamptron FCT, Windows 7 X64 Home Premium, HAF X. Vision Quest 24" WS LCD, Optoma H66 Projector

Cooling: CPU - Thermochill PA120.2, DC3.25/XSPC Res top, Apogee Xt extreme. Vid Cards - Exos 2, XSPC Razer.

#5
Posted 12/22/2010 09:22 PM   
Generic PnP Monitor. But so is my samsung too..
Generic PnP Monitor. But so is my samsung too..

#6
Posted 12/22/2010 10:43 PM   
check the other threads about edid on the h5360 here on the forum and fix it.
check the other threads about edid on the h5360 here on the forum and fix it.

Intel 2600K@4.7GHz | 3X Asus VG236H NVIDIA 3D Vision Surround® | Lian Li PC-6070 | Zalman 9900CCMAX | Zotac GTX580 3076Mb 3-way SLi | Corsair 8Gb DDR3 1333Mhz CL6 | Windows 7 64 Bit | Hiper Type R Mark-II 880 Watt | Pioneer DVR-112D | LG BH10LS30 | Asus P67 Revolution | WD RaptorX 150Gb | Acer H5360 | Logitech mx518

#7
Posted 12/22/2010 11:15 PM   
[quote name='danevito' date='22 December 2010 - 07:15 PM' timestamp='1293059753' post='1165139']
check the other threads about edid on the h5360 here on the forum and fix it.
[/quote]

I have been doing that. I am now forcing the H5360 override driver in Device Manager. I have managed to get games and movies to show in 3D, and it appears all resolutions are now available in Nvidia Control Panel. I am still concerned that I am not seeing the proper designation.

Contrary to what your curt response may suggest, I do not just post without realizing that I should do some work myself. I have read all of the posts I could find on this forum and others. The responses are inconclusive, which is why I am trying to get information from others to pinpoint if I really have an issue or not. I certainly did for a while.

Thanks for your attempt to keep the forums as clean as possible, however, in this case, your comment was unwarranted.
[quote name='danevito' date='22 December 2010 - 07:15 PM' timestamp='1293059753' post='1165139']

check the other threads about edid on the h5360 here on the forum and fix it.





I have been doing that. I am now forcing the H5360 override driver in Device Manager. I have managed to get games and movies to show in 3D, and it appears all resolutions are now available in Nvidia Control Panel. I am still concerned that I am not seeing the proper designation.



Contrary to what your curt response may suggest, I do not just post without realizing that I should do some work myself. I have read all of the posts I could find on this forum and others. The responses are inconclusive, which is why I am trying to get information from others to pinpoint if I really have an issue or not. I certainly did for a while.



Thanks for your attempt to keep the forums as clean as possible, however, in this case, your comment was unwarranted.

i7 860 21 X 200 = 4.2GHz at 1.4V, MSI P55-GD85, 2 X 4GB Kingston DDR3-1600, GTX 590 with XSPC Razer block, 2 X Corsair Force 3 120GB in RAID 0,4 X Barracuda SATA 7200.10 250GB RAID 0, 2 X Barracuda SATA 7200.11 500 GB RAID 0 for Back Ups, OCZ ZX 1250W PSU, Z-5500s, Pioneer 212D DVD, Lamptron FCT, Windows 7 X64 Home Premium, HAF X. Vision Quest 24" WS LCD, Optoma H66 Projector

Cooling: CPU - Thermochill PA120.2, DC3.25/XSPC Res top, Apogee Xt extreme. Vid Cards - Exos 2, XSPC Razer.

#8
Posted 12/23/2010 09:16 AM   
perhaps you should check the other threads about edid on the h5360 here on the forum and fix it /haha.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':haha:' />

My edid almost died on me 3 times, and even the override fix didn't work. I was able to use all the resolutions and refresh rates, but it was recognised as a Generic Non PnP Monitor. Ended up each time having to use the Entech Powerstrip program to repair the edid inside the projector instead of overriding it. Admittedly the last time even the repair function didn't solve the issue, so I had to reflash the full edid file. That then allowed the nvidia control panel to identify the monitor correctly.

However Windows Device Manager still recognises it as a "Generic Non PnP Monitor".
perhaps you should check the other threads about edid on the h5360 here on the forum and fix it /haha.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':haha:' />



My edid almost died on me 3 times, and even the override fix didn't work. I was able to use all the resolutions and refresh rates, but it was recognised as a Generic Non PnP Monitor. Ended up each time having to use the Entech Powerstrip program to repair the edid inside the projector instead of overriding it. Admittedly the last time even the repair function didn't solve the issue, so I had to reflash the full edid file. That then allowed the nvidia control panel to identify the monitor correctly.



However Windows Device Manager still recognises it as a "Generic Non PnP Monitor".

#9
Posted 12/23/2010 10:13 AM   
Every time I unplug the hdmi cable my Samsung 3dtv to plug it into the H5360, I have to install the EDID file, if you wanted one, you can download it from [size="4"]here[/size]

It may save you doing some googleing.

Hope it helps
Every time I unplug the hdmi cable my Samsung 3dtv to plug it into the H5360, I have to install the EDID file, if you wanted one, you can download it from here



It may save you doing some googleing.



Hope it helps

Ed

Creator

www.3Dizzy.com

Home of 3D Videos

#10
Posted 12/23/2010 11:41 AM   
yey now i'm a member of the duff EDID club! :( seriously i just went to plug it in today and now its a 'digital display' to the nvidia panel. The Inf file got the resolutions back, but given Nvidias corporate driven approach its not recognised as a viable 3d projector..

I got my EDID dumped and ready for powerstrip. Question is will i have success doing it with a 260? Finding a lesser card is going to a bit of a hassle /wink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' />

*EDIT*

I've noticed with the 'Read Data Directly from Monitor' option that i get 'DDC Communication with the monitor failed or is not supported' is that normal for a fudged EDID? I can read directly fine from the Samsung though. Update option does not appear though i'm assuming i will need to pay prior to it showing.
yey now i'm a member of the duff EDID club! :( seriously i just went to plug it in today and now its a 'digital display' to the nvidia panel. The Inf file got the resolutions back, but given Nvidias corporate driven approach its not recognised as a viable 3d projector..



I got my EDID dumped and ready for powerstrip. Question is will i have success doing it with a 260? Finding a lesser card is going to a bit of a hassle /wink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' />



*EDIT*



I've noticed with the 'Read Data Directly from Monitor' option that i get 'DDC Communication with the monitor failed or is not supported' is that normal for a fudged EDID? I can read directly fine from the Samsung though. Update option does not appear though i'm assuming i will need to pay prior to it showing.

#11
Posted 01/03/2011 08:21 PM   
I have an I3-530 based HTPC and it recognizes my H5360 automatically as long as I plug the projector directly into my ENGT430 GPU HDMI port. Have not had any success getting 3D vision to work thru my Denon AVR1611 however. Using the original ENGT430 driver I got an "unsupported display" message when selecting my Denon amp. On the latest driver it gives a list of 5 or 6 devices in the NVidia control panel but none of them will get 3D vision working thru the Denon.

It seems like the NVidia control panel needs a generic option to choose a generic NVidia 3D vision compatible projector when selecting an HDMI port from the Denon amp. Seems that it should work since its HDMI 1.4a as long as the NVidia driver would allow it.

If you haven't checked, make sure that your HDMI cable is 1.4 compatible with your H5360 recognition problem.
I have an I3-530 based HTPC and it recognizes my H5360 automatically as long as I plug the projector directly into my ENGT430 GPU HDMI port. Have not had any success getting 3D vision to work thru my Denon AVR1611 however. Using the original ENGT430 driver I got an "unsupported display" message when selecting my Denon amp. On the latest driver it gives a list of 5 or 6 devices in the NVidia control panel but none of them will get 3D vision working thru the Denon.



It seems like the NVidia control panel needs a generic option to choose a generic NVidia 3D vision compatible projector when selecting an HDMI port from the Denon amp. Seems that it should work since its HDMI 1.4a as long as the NVidia driver would allow it.



If you haven't checked, make sure that your HDMI cable is 1.4 compatible with your H5360 recognition problem.

#12
Posted 01/05/2011 08:28 PM   
I'm connected straight to the projector via a dual dvi - hdmi cable. it was absolutely fine the day before and has been for months. I ended up buying Powerstrip, applying for a pin code and its been nearly a [b]WEEK[/b] without a responce from them. :(

Its just as well that it is detected perfectly fine on its vga port, but i dislike using it as the resolution switching/detection with games is not perfect and i constant get a '3d mode' message from the projector unlike on the HDMI. Ah well i think i'll probably shoot a request to ACER and see how long it would take to get it sorted by them. I can't [i]not[/i] have on weekends as thats when it comes out for friends to enjoy /wink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' />
I'm connected straight to the projector via a dual dvi - hdmi cable. it was absolutely fine the day before and has been for months. I ended up buying Powerstrip, applying for a pin code and its been nearly a WEEK without a responce from them. :(



Its just as well that it is detected perfectly fine on its vga port, but i dislike using it as the resolution switching/detection with games is not perfect and i constant get a '3d mode' message from the projector unlike on the HDMI. Ah well i think i'll probably shoot a request to ACER and see how long it would take to get it sorted by them. I can't not have on weekends as thats when it comes out for friends to enjoy /wink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' />

#13
Posted 01/09/2011 02:23 AM   
All sorted now thankfully :) seems the original email failed to find its way over the intartubes /wacko.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':wacko:' />
EDID update did the job and it was definitely preferable to sending it off to Acer. Much better to have a DIY option /biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':biggrin:' />
All sorted now thankfully :) seems the original email failed to find its way over the intartubes /wacko.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':wacko:' />

EDID update did the job and it was definitely preferable to sending it off to Acer. Much better to have a DIY option /biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':biggrin:' />

#14
Posted 01/12/2011 06:45 PM   
well, i have an emachines v700 (the same as 5360)
and have edid failure.
It doesn't show the boot screen (640x480) and in winxp
i have problem with 1280x720 60Hz mode, it show only the
part of the resolution, and i can scroll on it with mouse.
120Hz not work even when use the 5360.inf edid file.
It only works in win7. Very strange.
Is my edid broken? If yes, can i fix it at home?
thx
well, i have an emachines v700 (the same as 5360)

and have edid failure.

It doesn't show the boot screen (640x480) and in winxp

i have problem with 1280x720 60Hz mode, it show only the

part of the resolution, and i can scroll on it with mouse.

120Hz not work even when use the 5360.inf edid file.

It only works in win7. Very strange.

Is my edid broken? If yes, can i fix it at home?

thx

#15
Posted 01/12/2011 08:04 PM   
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