Gday all,
most details floating around about 3DTV Play have been quite confusing (for me?), it'd be great if someone could shed some light regarding the following "facts" for me.
[b]According [/b]to [url]http://www.nvidia.com/object/3dtv-play-compare.html[/url] , it seems like neither 3D Vision nor 3DTV Play is required to play 3D Blu-ray movies.
As far as I can tell and found out by setting up my HTPC, 3DTV Play is indeed required for the frame packing function of the Nvidia card to be activated. Is that correct?
[b]My setup[/b] (HTPC -> Onkyo 509 receiver -> Philips 55" passive 3D TV) is not recognized from the Nvidia software to be supported by the 3D setup- therefore, do I really need to buy an activation for 3DTV play or is it sufficient to ask the Nvidia support to add my AV receiver to the supported devices?
[b]Is it correct[/b] that 3DTV Play can only be activated 5 times before it is cancelled/blocked?
Appreciate the replies.
most details floating around about 3DTV Play have been quite confusing (for me?), it'd be great if someone could shed some light regarding the following "facts" for me.
According to http://www.nvidia.com/object/3dtv-play-compare.html , it seems like neither 3D Vision nor 3DTV Play is required to play 3D Blu-ray movies.
As far as I can tell and found out by setting up my HTPC, 3DTV Play is indeed required for the frame packing function of the Nvidia card to be activated. Is that correct?
My setup (HTPC -> Onkyo 509 receiver -> Philips 55" passive 3D TV) is not recognized from the Nvidia software to be supported by the 3D setup- therefore, do I really need to buy an activation for 3DTV play or is it sufficient to ask the Nvidia support to add my AV receiver to the supported devices?
Is it correct that 3DTV Play can only be activated 5 times before it is cancelled/blocked?
3D Vision is required if you use Arcsoft, Cyberlink or Corel to playback a Blu-ray disc on a monitor that is not HDMI 1.4 compliant but is 3D Vision certified.
I am almost certain that 3DTV Play is not required for Blu-ray disc playback when using a HDMI 1.4 compliant Display.
Try connecting the 3D HDTV directly to the PC without the AVR in the chain. Chances are that the AVR is not passing/communicating the EDID (extended display information data) from the Display
What version/software are you using for playback? Look for a tutorial on their website.
3D Vision is required if you use Arcsoft, Cyberlink or Corel to playback a Blu-ray disc on a monitor that is not HDMI 1.4 compliant but is 3D Vision certified.
I am almost certain that 3DTV Play is not required for Blu-ray disc playback when using a HDMI 1.4 compliant Display.
Try connecting the 3D HDTV directly to the PC without the AVR in the chain. Chances are that the AVR is not passing/communicating the EDID (extended display information data) from the Display
What version/software are you using for playback? Look for a tutorial on their website.
I'm using Arcsoft TotalMedia Theatre 5 (also gave PDVD a try) and 3D movies are indeed working fine- it's just that I'm not sure what to do with 3D TV Play now that the trial is over.
The Nvidia control panel recognizes my AVR (Onkyo 509) but it is not shown as being supported/compatible for 3D playback so I have to rely on the 3DTV Play "software mode".
All devices of my HTPC setup
Nvidia 650Ti -> Onkyo 509 -> Philips 55PFL7606
are HDMI 1.4 compliant.
So this is where one of my questions comes in: Do I need to buy an activation for 3DTV Play or does Nvidia actually add support for the AVR if I pass on my display details from Monitor Asset Manager ( [url]http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/2774/[/url]) ?
Thanks for looking into this with me D-Man11.
I'm using Arcsoft TotalMedia Theatre 5 (also gave PDVD a try) and 3D movies are indeed working fine- it's just that I'm not sure what to do with 3D TV Play now that the trial is over.
The Nvidia control panel recognizes my AVR (Onkyo 509) but it is not shown as being supported/compatible for 3D playback so I have to rely on the 3DTV Play "software mode".
All devices of my HTPC setup
Nvidia 650Ti -> Onkyo 509 -> Philips 55PFL7606
are HDMI 1.4 compliant.
So this is where one of my questions comes in: Do I need to buy an activation for 3DTV Play or does Nvidia actually add support for the AVR if I pass on my display details from Monitor Asset Manager ( http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/2774/) ?
[quote="D-Man11"]Try connecting the 3D HDTV directly to the PC without the AVR in the chain. Chances are that the AVR is not passing/communicating the EDID (extended display information data) from the Display[/quote]
D-Man11 said:Try connecting the 3D HDTV directly to the PC without the AVR in the chain. Chances are that the AVR is not passing/communicating the EDID (extended display information data) from the Display
[quote="D-Man11"]Try connecting the 3D HDTV directly to the PC without the AVR in the chain. Chances are that the AVR is not passing/communicating the EDID (extended display information data) from the Display[/quote]
Meant to mention that in my last post:
I could try that- but even if that worked, I wouldn't get HD audio via my AVR anymore. Unless of course, the Nvidia software somehow stores the Philips' ID and enables 3DTV Play for good from then on (which I don't think).
So, any experiences whether Nvidia updates devices in their drivers?
D-Man11 said:Try connecting the 3D HDTV directly to the PC without the AVR in the chain. Chances are that the AVR is not passing/communicating the EDID (extended display information data) from the Display
Meant to mention that in my last post:
I could try that- but even if that worked, I wouldn't get HD audio via my AVR anymore. Unless of course, the Nvidia software somehow stores the Philips' ID and enables 3DTV Play for good from then on (which I don't think).
So, any experiences whether Nvidia updates devices in their drivers?
I'm going through a switch/splitter and a receiver and when ever I reinstall drivers in order to get stereoscopic 3D enabled I have to plug directly into my DLP so it sees that it's a Mitsubishi 3D DLP, once it's enabled I shutdown windows, plug it back into the switch/splitter and receiver. When I boot back up it doesn't see the DLP anymore, just the 3D ready Onkyo receiver. From here I have to switch it from Discover mode to Generic DLP and then it works flawlessly from there on ... besides one issue I've run into lately, it doesn't work with quad-buffered OpenGL games unless it's plugged directly into the DLP.
I'm going through a switch/splitter and a receiver and when ever I reinstall drivers in order to get stereoscopic 3D enabled I have to plug directly into my DLP so it sees that it's a Mitsubishi 3D DLP, once it's enabled I shutdown windows, plug it back into the switch/splitter and receiver. When I boot back up it doesn't see the DLP anymore, just the 3D ready Onkyo receiver. From here I have to switch it from Discover mode to Generic DLP and then it works flawlessly from there on ... besides one issue I've run into lately, it doesn't work with quad-buffered OpenGL games unless it's plugged directly into the DLP.
[quote="Dan316"][quote="D-Man11"]Try connecting the 3D HDTV directly to the PC without the AVR in the chain. Chances are that the AVR is not passing/communicating the EDID (extended display information data) from the Display[/quote]
Meant to mention that in my last post:
I could try that- but even if that worked, I wouldn't get HD audio via my AVR anymore. Unless of course, the Nvidia software somehow stores the Philips' ID and enables 3DTV Play for good from then on (which I don't think).
So, any experiences whether Nvidia updates devices in their drivers?[/quote]
Really? You're trying to troubleshoot your problem and you are unwilling to try this to see if it is indeed a problem with your receiver passing the EDID?
I suggest you open a support ticket with Nvidia or Arcsoft then.
D-Man11 said:Try connecting the 3D HDTV directly to the PC without the AVR in the chain. Chances are that the AVR is not passing/communicating the EDID (extended display information data) from the Display
Meant to mention that in my last post:
I could try that- but even if that worked, I wouldn't get HD audio via my AVR anymore. Unless of course, the Nvidia software somehow stores the Philips' ID and enables 3DTV Play for good from then on (which I don't think).
So, any experiences whether Nvidia updates devices in their drivers?
Really? You're trying to troubleshoot your problem and you are unwilling to try this to see if it is indeed a problem with your receiver passing the EDID?
I suggest you open a support ticket with Nvidia or Arcsoft then.
[quote="D-Man11"]Really? You're trying to troubleshoot your problem and you are unwilling to try this to see if it is indeed a problem with your receiver passing the EDID?
I suggest you open a support ticket with Nvidia or Arcsoft then.[/quote]
Mate, I think you misunderstand my point...
Even if I plugged the Nvidia card directly into the TV and it worked- I still would have to know what to do when the AVR is hooked up. Arcsoft has nothing to do with it, 3D Blu-ray playback is working fine- I need to know what to do with 3DTV Play now that the trial is over.
If the driver actually IS supposed to recognize my device and activate 3D in the driver (that being the AVR or the Philips TV, neither of which enabled 3DTV play) or if I have to buy an activation, ie license.
[quote="TsaebehT"]I'm going through a switch/splitter and a receiver and when ever I reinstall drivers in order to get stereoscopic 3D enabled I have to plug directly into my DLP so it sees that it's a Mitsubishi 3D DLP, once it's enabled I shutdown windows, plug it back into the switch/splitter and receiver. When I boot back up it doesn't see the DLP anymore, just the 3D ready Onkyo receiver. From here I have to switch it from Discover mode to Generic DLP and then it works flawlessly from there on ... besides one issue I've run into lately, it doesn't work with quad-buffered OpenGL games unless it's plugged directly into the DLP.[/quote]
Heh, that's a really interesting approch- I'll give it a shot.
With "Discover Mode / Generic DLP" you mean the stereoscopic properties of the Nvidia driver?
D-Man11 said:Really? You're trying to troubleshoot your problem and you are unwilling to try this to see if it is indeed a problem with your receiver passing the EDID?
I suggest you open a support ticket with Nvidia or Arcsoft then.
Mate, I think you misunderstand my point...
Even if I plugged the Nvidia card directly into the TV and it worked- I still would have to know what to do when the AVR is hooked up. Arcsoft has nothing to do with it, 3D Blu-ray playback is working fine- I need to know what to do with 3DTV Play now that the trial is over.
If the driver actually IS supposed to recognize my device and activate 3D in the driver (that being the AVR or the Philips TV, neither of which enabled 3DTV play) or if I have to buy an activation, ie license.
TsaebehT said:I'm going through a switch/splitter and a receiver and when ever I reinstall drivers in order to get stereoscopic 3D enabled I have to plug directly into my DLP so it sees that it's a Mitsubishi 3D DLP, once it's enabled I shutdown windows, plug it back into the switch/splitter and receiver. When I boot back up it doesn't see the DLP anymore, just the 3D ready Onkyo receiver. From here I have to switch it from Discover mode to Generic DLP and then it works flawlessly from there on ... besides one issue I've run into lately, it doesn't work with quad-buffered OpenGL games unless it's plugged directly into the DLP.
Heh, that's a really interesting approch- I'll give it a shot.
With "Discover Mode / Generic DLP" you mean the stereoscopic properties of the Nvidia driver?
[quote="Dan316"]it seems like neither 3D Vision nor 3DTV Play is required to play 3D Blu-ray movies.
As far as I can tell and found out by setting up my HTPC, 3DTV Play is indeed required for the frame packing function of the Nvidia card to be activated. Is that correct?[/quote]
I could have sworn your point was if you could play a Blu-ray disc without having to buy 3DTV Play, my bad
Dan316 said:it seems like neither 3D Vision nor 3DTV Play is required to play 3D Blu-ray movies.
As far as I can tell and found out by setting up my HTPC, 3DTV Play is indeed required for the frame packing function of the Nvidia card to be activated. Is that correct?
I could have sworn your point was if you could play a Blu-ray disc without having to buy 3DTV Play, my bad
I thought that if you used HDMI 1.4 you didnt need 3d tv play for blu-ray. Nvidia's information is not really accurate/up to date in many cases but accoring tho this yea.
[url]http://www.nvidia.com/object/3dtv-play-compare.html[/url]
3D blu-ray is framepacking [1920x1080 @ 24hz]. "Pirated content" is not Im pretty sure [side by side].
Im not up to date but alot of people ran into issues with passing through receivers in past. I'd contact nvidia. That information they have says you can, if you do need 3d tv play they should have to give it you for free imo [in a perfect world.]
I thought that if you used HDMI 1.4 you didnt need 3d tv play for blu-ray. Nvidia's information is not really accurate/up to date in many cases but accoring tho this yea. http://www.nvidia.com/object/3dtv-play-compare.html
3D blu-ray is framepacking [1920x1080 @ 24hz]. "Pirated content" is not Im pretty sure [side by side].
Im not up to date but alot of people ran into issues with passing through receivers in past. I'd contact nvidia. That information they have says you can, if you do need 3d tv play they should have to give it you for free imo [in a perfect world.]
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[quote="eqzitara"]I thought that if you used HDMI 1.4 you didnt need 3d tv play for blu-ray. Nvidia's information is not really accurate/up to date in many cases but accoring tho this yea.
[url]http://www.nvidia.com/object/3dtv-play-compare.html[/url]
3D blu-ray is framepacking [1920x1080 @ 24hz]. "Pirated content" is not Im pretty sure [side by side].
Im not up to date but alot of people ran into issues with passing through receivers in past. I'd contact nvidia. That information they have says you can, if you do need 3d tv play they should have to give it you for free imo [in a perfect world.][/quote]
That's exactly what I mean- the details/requirements are confusing.
From what I understand so far, 3DTV Play should 'activate itself' when recognizing a corresponding setup- so there would be no need to buy a license.
I was hoping someone here would be running a similar system (with an AVR) and could share his/her experience. If the Nvidia driver actually is supposed to activate automatically, then I'd be facing either a technical issue or Nvidia would have to add the display details to the driver so it is recognized (as stated in [url]http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/2774/[/url]). Again, assuming that my understanding is correct that the mere playback of 3D movies (no 3D games) is supported out of the box.
Nvidia hasn't replied to my ticket regarding my monitor asset submission, I'll try TsaebehT's approach in the meantime.
eqzitara said:I thought that if you used HDMI 1.4 you didnt need 3d tv play for blu-ray. Nvidia's information is not really accurate/up to date in many cases but accoring tho this yea. http://www.nvidia.com/object/3dtv-play-compare.html
3D blu-ray is framepacking [1920x1080 @ 24hz]. "Pirated content" is not Im pretty sure [side by side].
Im not up to date but alot of people ran into issues with passing through receivers in past. I'd contact nvidia. That information they have says you can, if you do need 3d tv play they should have to give it you for free imo [in a perfect world.]
That's exactly what I mean- the details/requirements are confusing.
From what I understand so far, 3DTV Play should 'activate itself' when recognizing a corresponding setup- so there would be no need to buy a license.
I was hoping someone here would be running a similar system (with an AVR) and could share his/her experience. If the Nvidia driver actually is supposed to activate automatically, then I'd be facing either a technical issue or Nvidia would have to add the display details to the driver so it is recognized (as stated in http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/2774/). Again, assuming that my understanding is correct that the mere playback of 3D movies (no 3D games) is supported out of the box.
Nvidia hasn't replied to my ticket regarding my monitor asset submission, I'll try TsaebehT's approach in the meantime.
I can't say for certain it'll work for you, as I have an emitter connected to enable 3D Vision in the first place and my Onkyo RCVR [u]is[/u] 3D compatible, but hey it's worth a try. :)
I can't say for certain it'll work for you, as I have an emitter connected to enable 3D Vision in the first place and my Onkyo RCVR is 3D compatible, but hey it's worth a try. :)
"3DPlay" has three modes of operation namely:
1. 30 day trial
2. You bought a license
3. You have a 3DVision kit and the Nvidia 3D sync emitter plugged in
For 3DPlay to work it must see a supported display device when the '3D Setup' option of the NVCP is used. After that it will "just work" until a newer version of the driver set is installed.
So, if your AVR is not passing on the 3D-Readyness of your attached TV, simply plugging your PC directly into your TV, running the '3D Setup' so that 3DVision is enabled and then moving the plugs back to your AVR ought to work.
Google is your friend: A web search for "EDID Override" or "EDID Profile" or similar will get you one or two of the following (along with the usual 'noise'):
1. A EDID_Override.inf file that you can manually load over the generic monitor profile in DEVICE MANAGER which will in most cases enable 3DVision (used for unsupported monitors). However this may or may not get you your (I'm sure much loved) 5.1/7.1 sound.
2. There is a Taiwan company that has a share/freeware EDID reader program which can be used to read the EDID of your TV and create an .INF file which in turn can be edited, renamed and used to override ether the AVR profile or monitor profile (or both) in DEVICE MANAGER.
After cussing+swearing at Nvidia for seemingly years for all the "hoops" I had to jump through to get my Pioneer 7.1 AVR and Samsung Plasma to emit 5.1+3D a recent switch to a SSD and complete from scratch instal of WIN7+Latest (at the time) Nvidia driver set "just worked". I was/am VERY happy.
"3DPlay" has three modes of operation namely:
1. 30 day trial
2. You bought a license
3. You have a 3DVision kit and the Nvidia 3D sync emitter plugged in
For 3DPlay to work it must see a supported display device when the '3D Setup' option of the NVCP is used. After that it will "just work" until a newer version of the driver set is installed.
So, if your AVR is not passing on the 3D-Readyness of your attached TV, simply plugging your PC directly into your TV, running the '3D Setup' so that 3DVision is enabled and then moving the plugs back to your AVR ought to work.
Google is your friend: A web search for "EDID Override" or "EDID Profile" or similar will get you one or two of the following (along with the usual 'noise'):
1. A EDID_Override.inf file that you can manually load over the generic monitor profile in DEVICE MANAGER which will in most cases enable 3DVision (used for unsupported monitors). However this may or may not get you your (I'm sure much loved) 5.1/7.1 sound.
2. There is a Taiwan company that has a share/freeware EDID reader program which can be used to read the EDID of your TV and create an .INF file which in turn can be edited, renamed and used to override ether the AVR profile or monitor profile (or both) in DEVICE MANAGER.
After cussing+swearing at Nvidia for seemingly years for all the "hoops" I had to jump through to get my Pioneer 7.1 AVR and Samsung Plasma to emit 5.1+3D a recent switch to a SSD and complete from scratch instal of WIN7+Latest (at the time) Nvidia driver set "just worked". I was/am VERY happy.
Thanks @mbloof for your reply.
Seeing as 3D works fine for me using 3DTVPlay, it seems like the devices are indeed being recognized properly- I thought that when the devices are recognized, I wouldn't need a 3dtvplay licence, same as eg. using an emitter (see link below).
If you look here [url]http://www.nvidia.com/object/3dtv-play-compare.html[/url], it is stated that 3DTVplay is [b]not required[/b] to watch 3D Blu-rays.
But as we know, it still has to be installed anyway- otherwise it won't activate the 3D function in the driver. So, installing 3DTVPlay results in having a trial period of 14 days.
I was under the impression, that if the connected devices are being recognized for 3d playback, 3DTVPlay would be activated and there would be no need to buy a licence. Again, I don't want to play games in 3D mode and according to the link above, only then it'd be required to buy 3dtvplay (ie: an activation for it).
The only other thing required for 3d blu-ray playback is:
"Blu-ray 3D support requires the purchase of a compatible video playback software application"
So to summarize it: I do have to buy a licence for $40, the summary page from Nvidia is wrong ?
Seeing as 3D works fine for me using 3DTVPlay, it seems like the devices are indeed being recognized properly- I thought that when the devices are recognized, I wouldn't need a 3dtvplay licence, same as eg. using an emitter (see link below).
But as we know, it still has to be installed anyway- otherwise it won't activate the 3D function in the driver. So, installing 3DTVPlay results in having a trial period of 14 days.
I was under the impression, that if the connected devices are being recognized for 3d playback, 3DTVPlay would be activated and there would be no need to buy a licence. Again, I don't want to play games in 3D mode and according to the link above, only then it'd be required to buy 3dtvplay (ie: an activation for it).
The only other thing required for 3d blu-ray playback is:
"Blu-ray 3D support requires the purchase of a compatible video playback software application"
So to summarize it: I do have to buy a licence for $40, the summary page from Nvidia is wrong ?
most details floating around about 3DTV Play have been quite confusing (for me?), it'd be great if someone could shed some light regarding the following "facts" for me.
According to http://www.nvidia.com/object/3dtv-play-compare.html , it seems like neither 3D Vision nor 3DTV Play is required to play 3D Blu-ray movies.
As far as I can tell and found out by setting up my HTPC, 3DTV Play is indeed required for the frame packing function of the Nvidia card to be activated. Is that correct?
My setup (HTPC -> Onkyo 509 receiver -> Philips 55" passive 3D TV) is not recognized from the Nvidia software to be supported by the 3D setup- therefore, do I really need to buy an activation for 3DTV play or is it sufficient to ask the Nvidia support to add my AV receiver to the supported devices?
Is it correct that 3DTV Play can only be activated 5 times before it is cancelled/blocked?
Appreciate the replies.
I am almost certain that 3DTV Play is not required for Blu-ray disc playback when using a HDMI 1.4 compliant Display.
Try connecting the 3D HDTV directly to the PC without the AVR in the chain. Chances are that the AVR is not passing/communicating the EDID (extended display information data) from the Display
What version/software are you using for playback? Look for a tutorial on their website.
The Nvidia control panel recognizes my AVR (Onkyo 509) but it is not shown as being supported/compatible for 3D playback so I have to rely on the 3DTV Play "software mode".
All devices of my HTPC setup
Nvidia 650Ti -> Onkyo 509 -> Philips 55PFL7606
are HDMI 1.4 compliant.
So this is where one of my questions comes in: Do I need to buy an activation for 3DTV Play or does Nvidia actually add support for the AVR if I pass on my display details from Monitor Asset Manager ( http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/2774/) ?
Thanks for looking into this with me D-Man11.
Meant to mention that in my last post:
I could try that- but even if that worked, I wouldn't get HD audio via my AVR anymore. Unless of course, the Nvidia software somehow stores the Philips' ID and enables 3DTV Play for good from then on (which I don't think).
So, any experiences whether Nvidia updates devices in their drivers?
[MonitorSizeOverride][Global/Base Profile Tweaks][Depth=IPD]
Really? You're trying to troubleshoot your problem and you are unwilling to try this to see if it is indeed a problem with your receiver passing the EDID?
I suggest you open a support ticket with Nvidia or Arcsoft then.
Mate, I think you misunderstand my point...
Even if I plugged the Nvidia card directly into the TV and it worked- I still would have to know what to do when the AVR is hooked up. Arcsoft has nothing to do with it, 3D Blu-ray playback is working fine- I need to know what to do with 3DTV Play now that the trial is over.
If the driver actually IS supposed to recognize my device and activate 3D in the driver (that being the AVR or the Philips TV, neither of which enabled 3DTV play) or if I have to buy an activation, ie license.
Heh, that's a really interesting approch- I'll give it a shot.
With "Discover Mode / Generic DLP" you mean the stereoscopic properties of the Nvidia driver?
I could have sworn your point was if you could play a Blu-ray disc without having to buy 3DTV Play, my bad
http://www.nvidia.com/object/3dtv-play-compare.html
3D blu-ray is framepacking [1920x1080 @ 24hz]. "Pirated content" is not Im pretty sure [side by side].
Im not up to date but alot of people ran into issues with passing through receivers in past. I'd contact nvidia. That information they have says you can, if you do need 3d tv play they should have to give it you for free imo [in a perfect world.]
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If you like one of my helixmod patches and want to donate. Can send to me through paypal - eqzitara@yahoo.com
That's exactly what I mean- the details/requirements are confusing.
From what I understand so far, 3DTV Play should 'activate itself' when recognizing a corresponding setup- so there would be no need to buy a license.
I was hoping someone here would be running a similar system (with an AVR) and could share his/her experience. If the Nvidia driver actually is supposed to activate automatically, then I'd be facing either a technical issue or Nvidia would have to add the display details to the driver so it is recognized (as stated in http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/2774/). Again, assuming that my understanding is correct that the mere playback of 3D movies (no 3D games) is supported out of the box.
Nvidia hasn't replied to my ticket regarding my monitor asset submission, I'll try TsaebehT's approach in the meantime.
[MonitorSizeOverride][Global/Base Profile Tweaks][Depth=IPD]
1. 30 day trial
2. You bought a license
3. You have a 3DVision kit and the Nvidia 3D sync emitter plugged in
For 3DPlay to work it must see a supported display device when the '3D Setup' option of the NVCP is used. After that it will "just work" until a newer version of the driver set is installed.
So, if your AVR is not passing on the 3D-Readyness of your attached TV, simply plugging your PC directly into your TV, running the '3D Setup' so that 3DVision is enabled and then moving the plugs back to your AVR ought to work.
Google is your friend: A web search for "EDID Override" or "EDID Profile" or similar will get you one or two of the following (along with the usual 'noise'):
1. A EDID_Override.inf file that you can manually load over the generic monitor profile in DEVICE MANAGER which will in most cases enable 3DVision (used for unsupported monitors). However this may or may not get you your (I'm sure much loved) 5.1/7.1 sound.
2. There is a Taiwan company that has a share/freeware EDID reader program which can be used to read the EDID of your TV and create an .INF file which in turn can be edited, renamed and used to override ether the AVR profile or monitor profile (or both) in DEVICE MANAGER.
After cussing+swearing at Nvidia for seemingly years for all the "hoops" I had to jump through to get my Pioneer 7.1 AVR and Samsung Plasma to emit 5.1+3D a recent switch to a SSD and complete from scratch instal of WIN7+Latest (at the time) Nvidia driver set "just worked". I was/am VERY happy.
i7-2600K-4.5Ghz/Corsair H100i/8GB/GTX780SC-SLI/Win7-64/1200W-PSU/Samsung 840-500GB SSD/Coolermaster-Tower/Benq 1080ST @ 100"
Seeing as 3D works fine for me using 3DTVPlay, it seems like the devices are indeed being recognized properly- I thought that when the devices are recognized, I wouldn't need a 3dtvplay licence, same as eg. using an emitter (see link below).
If you look here http://www.nvidia.com/object/3dtv-play-compare.html, it is stated that 3DTVplay is not required to watch 3D Blu-rays.
But as we know, it still has to be installed anyway- otherwise it won't activate the 3D function in the driver. So, installing 3DTVPlay results in having a trial period of 14 days.
I was under the impression, that if the connected devices are being recognized for 3d playback, 3DTVPlay would be activated and there would be no need to buy a licence. Again, I don't want to play games in 3D mode and according to the link above, only then it'd be required to buy 3dtvplay (ie: an activation for it).
The only other thing required for 3d blu-ray playback is:
"Blu-ray 3D support requires the purchase of a compatible video playback software application"
So to summarize it: I do have to buy a licence for $40, the summary page from Nvidia is wrong ?