[quote name='JonPollock' date='09 November 2011 - 08:36 AM' timestamp='1320845804' post='1322884']
I can't believe it's such an abnormality to have DualLink DVI on a 3D projector. I spent some time searching for one in vain.
Full screen works just fine with 720p or 1080p. I didn't get a chance to play any games to a significant degree so I can't comment on the quality. I just loaded up a couple to verify that the 3D kicked in. All of the games I tried were at 1080p/24. The only thing I tried at 720p was the Medusa demo. Once I got things working, I concentrated on 1080p. I am concerned that I 'felt' a bit on input lag on the mouse cursor. I didn't spend time tracking it down, but I have read this projector adds > 45ms to each frame.. which would be a gaming deal breaker. I tried turning all processing off.. pure motion et al., and I could not tell a difference. I only had a keyboard with an integrated touchpad on the test rig, and so, it could have been the touchpad, it could have been the 24Hz, or it may be an issue with the projector itself.
I didn't try any movies outside of the 3Dvisionlive site, and none in 2D.
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There is no input lag at 1080p. What you experiencing is 1080p at 24Hz. This is because that is the only mode that these new HDMI 1.4 projectors support. So you are only getting a 24Hz refresh rate.
[quote name='JonPollock' date='09 November 2011 - 08:36 AM' timestamp='1320845804' post='1322884']
I can't believe it's such an abnormality to have DualLink DVI on a 3D projector. I spent some time searching for one in vain.
Full screen works just fine with 720p or 1080p. I didn't get a chance to play any games to a significant degree so I can't comment on the quality. I just loaded up a couple to verify that the 3D kicked in. All of the games I tried were at 1080p/24. The only thing I tried at 720p was the Medusa demo. Once I got things working, I concentrated on 1080p. I am concerned that I 'felt' a bit on input lag on the mouse cursor. I didn't spend time tracking it down, but I have read this projector adds > 45ms to each frame.. which would be a gaming deal breaker. I tried turning all processing off.. pure motion et al., and I could not tell a difference. I only had a keyboard with an integrated touchpad on the test rig, and so, it could have been the touchpad, it could have been the 24Hz, or it may be an issue with the projector itself.
I didn't try any movies outside of the 3Dvisionlive site, and none in 2D.
There is no input lag at 1080p. What you experiencing is 1080p at 24Hz. This is because that is the only mode that these new HDMI 1.4 projectors support. So you are only getting a 24Hz refresh rate.
I'm a Optoma HD33 & Mac mini(2010 ver,windows 7 x64 sp1 via BootCamp) user,
I don't play 3D games but want to watch Blu-ray 3D movie,
although HD33 shown on 3DTVplay supported list from 285.62 driver.
but I still can't find a good solution.
I completed 3D vision setting in the NVIDIA Control Panel,
the demo sample is really COOL.
But when I play Blu-Ray 3D movie with Arcsoft TotalMedia Theatre 5 or PowerDVD11,
there's always a big problem so that I can't enjoy the 3D movie.
Under 285.62 - The movie playing very stuttering, although projector ran in 3D mode, but almost no 3D effect at all.
Under 285.79 - I can see 3D effect when movie playing, but it can playing only shorter than 1 minute,
then system crash with pure color(whole blue or white or other) shown on screen,
I must turn off power manually.
Under newest 290.36 - both program crashed when Blu-ray 3D playing began,
after a 5-seconds blue background/white text condition-typical windows crash scene,
(I can't read the information clearly since displaying was under 3D mode)
the system auto reboot.
I tried both 3D resolution 1920x1080 24p & 1280x720 60p supported by HDMI 1.4a,
but the same result. :(
[quote name='andrewf@nvidia' date='09 November 2011 - 09:27 PM' timestamp='1320888443' post='1323329']
There is no input lag at 1080p. What you experiencing is 1080p at 24Hz. This is because that is the only mode that these new HDMI 1.4 projectors support. So you are only getting a 24Hz refresh rate.
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Just checking back with you guys on this. I do experience a lot of input lag, and it's really odd. I totally get what you're saying about the 24Hz issue, and I agree. However, I get a noticable amount of lag at any resolution listed under HD/SD in the NVIDIA control panel. For example 720p 60Hz the mouse lags far enough behind in Windows that it's a pain to click on anything. Choose anything off the PC section, and the problem goes away. 1280x768 60Hz - no problem at all. The highest listed resolution in the PC section is 1680x1050 60Hz again no problem. *Stepping up* to 480p @59Hz (only option), and the lag comes back.
Also, if I set some sort of screwy custom resolution.. 1920x1000 60Hz, again no problem.
So what is going on? How is it that anything on NVIDIA's HD/SD section causes a problem, but setting anything off that menu is fine?
[quote name='andrewf@nvidia' date='09 November 2011 - 09:27 PM' timestamp='1320888443' post='1323329']
There is no input lag at 1080p. What you experiencing is 1080p at 24Hz. This is because that is the only mode that these new HDMI 1.4 projectors support. So you are only getting a 24Hz refresh rate.
Just checking back with you guys on this. I do experience a lot of input lag, and it's really odd. I totally get what you're saying about the 24Hz issue, and I agree. However, I get a noticable amount of lag at any resolution listed under HD/SD in the NVIDIA control panel. For example 720p 60Hz the mouse lags far enough behind in Windows that it's a pain to click on anything. Choose anything off the PC section, and the problem goes away. 1280x768 60Hz - no problem at all. The highest listed resolution in the PC section is 1680x1050 60Hz again no problem. *Stepping up* to 480p @59Hz (only option), and the lag comes back.
Also, if I set some sort of screwy custom resolution.. 1920x1000 60Hz, again no problem.
So what is going on? How is it that anything on NVIDIA's HD/SD section causes a problem, but setting anything off that menu is fine?
[quote name='JonPollock' date='01 February 2012 - 04:17 PM' timestamp='1328113067' post='1363680']
Just checking back with you guys on this. I do experience a lot of input lag, and it's really odd. I totally get what you're saying about the 24Hz issue, and I agree. However, I get a noticable amount of lag at any resolution listed under HD/SD in the NVIDIA control panel. For example 720p 60Hz the mouse lags far enough behind in Windows that it's a pain to click on anything. Choose anything off the PC section, and the problem goes away. 1280x768 60Hz - no problem at all. The highest listed resolution in the PC section is 1680x1050 60Hz again no problem. *Stepping up* to 480p @59Hz (only option), and the lag comes back.
Also, if I set some sort of screwy custom resolution.. 1920x1000 60Hz, again no problem.
So what is going on? How is it that anything on NVIDIA's HD/SD section causes a problem, but setting anything off that menu is fine?
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I'd be very interested in hearing a reply to this too. I've got an Acer H9500BD that sounds like it has the same problem. In any 3D mode I get around 170ms of lag, whereas in 2D mode it's fine.
I'd put this down to a broken projector and it's currently back with the manufacturer for a repair. But if the same problem occurs on a different projector perhaps it's a broken driver...
[quote name='JonPollock' date='01 February 2012 - 04:17 PM' timestamp='1328113067' post='1363680']
Just checking back with you guys on this. I do experience a lot of input lag, and it's really odd. I totally get what you're saying about the 24Hz issue, and I agree. However, I get a noticable amount of lag at any resolution listed under HD/SD in the NVIDIA control panel. For example 720p 60Hz the mouse lags far enough behind in Windows that it's a pain to click on anything. Choose anything off the PC section, and the problem goes away. 1280x768 60Hz - no problem at all. The highest listed resolution in the PC section is 1680x1050 60Hz again no problem. *Stepping up* to 480p @59Hz (only option), and the lag comes back.
Also, if I set some sort of screwy custom resolution.. 1920x1000 60Hz, again no problem.
So what is going on? How is it that anything on NVIDIA's HD/SD section causes a problem, but setting anything off that menu is fine?
I'd be very interested in hearing a reply to this too. I've got an Acer H9500BD that sounds like it has the same problem. In any 3D mode I get around 170ms of lag, whereas in 2D mode it's fine.
I'd put this down to a broken projector and it's currently back with the manufacturer for a repair. But if the same problem occurs on a different projector perhaps it's a broken driver...
[quote name='JonPollock' date='01 February 2012 - 09:17 AM' timestamp='1328113067' post='1363680']
Just checking back with you guys on this. I do experience a lot of input lag, and it's really odd. I totally get what you're saying about the 24Hz issue, and I agree. However, I get a noticable amount of lag at any resolution listed under HD/SD in the NVIDIA control panel. For example 720p 60Hz the mouse lags far enough behind in Windows that it's a pain to click on anything. Choose anything off the PC section, and the problem goes away. 1280x768 60Hz - no problem at all. The highest listed resolution in the PC section is 1680x1050 60Hz again no problem. *Stepping up* to 480p @59Hz (only option), and the lag comes back.
Also, if I set some sort of screwy custom resolution.. 1920x1000 60Hz, again no problem.
So what is going on? How is it that anything on NVIDIA's HD/SD section causes a problem, but setting anything off that menu is fine?
[/quote]
Excessive input lag is still another reason to not get a 1080P projector that does not support native res checkerboard. With CB, no input lag, better framerate than 720P framepacking. Since 3DTV Play is the only thing that works, you are forced into non-optimal undesireable video pixel processing mode instead of PC Graphics mode.
You'd be better off with a 1280x720 projector, much better image quality since it plays games in native res.
[quote name='JonPollock' date='01 February 2012 - 09:17 AM' timestamp='1328113067' post='1363680']
Just checking back with you guys on this. I do experience a lot of input lag, and it's really odd. I totally get what you're saying about the 24Hz issue, and I agree. However, I get a noticable amount of lag at any resolution listed under HD/SD in the NVIDIA control panel. For example 720p 60Hz the mouse lags far enough behind in Windows that it's a pain to click on anything. Choose anything off the PC section, and the problem goes away. 1280x768 60Hz - no problem at all. The highest listed resolution in the PC section is 1680x1050 60Hz again no problem. *Stepping up* to 480p @59Hz (only option), and the lag comes back.
Also, if I set some sort of screwy custom resolution.. 1920x1000 60Hz, again no problem.
So what is going on? How is it that anything on NVIDIA's HD/SD section causes a problem, but setting anything off that menu is fine?
Excessive input lag is still another reason to not get a 1080P projector that does not support native res checkerboard. With CB, no input lag, better framerate than 720P framepacking. Since 3DTV Play is the only thing that works, you are forced into non-optimal undesireable video pixel processing mode instead of PC Graphics mode.
You'd be better off with a 1280x720 projector, much better image quality since it plays games in native res.
[quote name='roller11' date='01 February 2012 - 04:12 PM' timestamp='1328127164' post='1363799']
Excessive input lag is still another reason to not get a 1080P projector that does not support native res checkerboard. With CB, no input lag, better framerate than 720P framepacking. Since 3DTV Play is the only thing that works, you are forced into non-optimal undesireable video pixel processing mode instead of PC Graphics mode.
You'd be better off with a 1280x720 projector, much better image quality since it plays games in native res.
[/quote]
To clarify, I'm talking about the 2D resolutions listed in the NVIDIA control panel under HD/SD. Yes, I have the most lag in 1080p 3D, and a noticeable amount in 720p 3D, but 720p 2D shows the same lag as 720p 3D which is also about the same lag in 1080p 2D, and the same with 480p. At first I was thinking bandwidth limit, but with the lower resolutions having the same issues as the higher resolutions, I do not think that's the case. What makes me think it's a driver issue is any 'PC' resolution or any custom resolution is working fine - no noticeable lag.
Every res I've tried is at either 59 or 60 Hz so that rules out refresh lag as the culprit. Excluding 1080p 3D 24Hz (which adds ~42ms lag), every other resolution should be the same at ~17ms lag, but that's not what I'm experiencing.
[quote name='roller11' date='01 February 2012 - 04:12 PM' timestamp='1328127164' post='1363799']
Excessive input lag is still another reason to not get a 1080P projector that does not support native res checkerboard. With CB, no input lag, better framerate than 720P framepacking. Since 3DTV Play is the only thing that works, you are forced into non-optimal undesireable video pixel processing mode instead of PC Graphics mode.
You'd be better off with a 1280x720 projector, much better image quality since it plays games in native res.
To clarify, I'm talking about the 2D resolutions listed in the NVIDIA control panel under HD/SD. Yes, I have the most lag in 1080p 3D, and a noticeable amount in 720p 3D, but 720p 2D shows the same lag as 720p 3D which is also about the same lag in 1080p 2D, and the same with 480p. At first I was thinking bandwidth limit, but with the lower resolutions having the same issues as the higher resolutions, I do not think that's the case. What makes me think it's a driver issue is any 'PC' resolution or any custom resolution is working fine - no noticeable lag.
Every res I've tried is at either 59 or 60 Hz so that rules out refresh lag as the culprit. Excluding 1080p 3D 24Hz (which adds ~42ms lag), every other resolution should be the same at ~17ms lag, but that's not what I'm experiencing.
[quote name='JonPollock' date='01 February 2012 - 09:51 PM' timestamp='1328147501' post='1363932']
To clarify, I'm talking about the 2D resolutions listed in the NVIDIA control panel under HD/SD. Yes, I have the most lag in 1080p 3D, and a noticeable amount in 720p 3D, but 720p 2D shows the same lag as 720p 3D which is also about the same lag in 1080p 2D, and the same with 480p. At first I was thinking bandwidth limit, but with the lower resolutions having the same issues as the higher resolutions, I do not think that's the case. What makes me think it's a driver issue is any 'PC' resolution or any custom resolution is working fine - no noticeable lag.
Every res I've tried is at either 59 or 60 Hz so that rules out refresh lag as the culprit. Excluding 1080p 3D 24Hz (which adds ~42ms lag), every other resolution should be the same at ~17ms lag, but that's not what I'm experiencing.
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Here's the solution: The Optoma HD33 projector was applying 'Pure Motion' to any TV resolution it recognized. Pure Motion is their fast action smoothing thing. Setting it to off fixed the problem. I hope this helps someone else.
[quote name='JonPollock' date='01 February 2012 - 09:51 PM' timestamp='1328147501' post='1363932']
To clarify, I'm talking about the 2D resolutions listed in the NVIDIA control panel under HD/SD. Yes, I have the most lag in 1080p 3D, and a noticeable amount in 720p 3D, but 720p 2D shows the same lag as 720p 3D which is also about the same lag in 1080p 2D, and the same with 480p. At first I was thinking bandwidth limit, but with the lower resolutions having the same issues as the higher resolutions, I do not think that's the case. What makes me think it's a driver issue is any 'PC' resolution or any custom resolution is working fine - no noticeable lag.
Every res I've tried is at either 59 or 60 Hz so that rules out refresh lag as the culprit. Excluding 1080p 3D 24Hz (which adds ~42ms lag), every other resolution should be the same at ~17ms lag, but that's not what I'm experiencing.
Here's the solution: The Optoma HD33 projector was applying 'Pure Motion' to any TV resolution it recognized. Pure Motion is their fast action smoothing thing. Setting it to off fixed the problem. I hope this helps someone else.
I can't believe it's such an abnormality to have DualLink DVI on a 3D projector. I spent some time searching for one in vain.
Full screen works just fine with 720p or 1080p. I didn't get a chance to play any games to a significant degree so I can't comment on the quality. I just loaded up a couple to verify that the 3D kicked in. All of the games I tried were at 1080p/24. The only thing I tried at 720p was the Medusa demo. Once I got things working, I concentrated on 1080p. I am concerned that I 'felt' a bit on input lag on the mouse cursor. I didn't spend time tracking it down, but I have read this projector adds > 45ms to each frame.. which would be a gaming deal breaker. I tried turning all processing off.. pure motion et al., and I could not tell a difference. I only had a keyboard with an integrated touchpad on the test rig, and so, it could have been the touchpad, it could have been the 24Hz, or it may be an issue with the projector itself.
I didn't try any movies outside of the 3Dvisionlive site, and none in 2D.
[/quote]
There is no input lag at 1080p. What you experiencing is 1080p at 24Hz. This is because that is the only mode that these new HDMI 1.4 projectors support. So you are only getting a 24Hz refresh rate.
I can't believe it's such an abnormality to have DualLink DVI on a 3D projector. I spent some time searching for one in vain.
Full screen works just fine with 720p or 1080p. I didn't get a chance to play any games to a significant degree so I can't comment on the quality. I just loaded up a couple to verify that the 3D kicked in. All of the games I tried were at 1080p/24. The only thing I tried at 720p was the Medusa demo. Once I got things working, I concentrated on 1080p. I am concerned that I 'felt' a bit on input lag on the mouse cursor. I didn't spend time tracking it down, but I have read this projector adds > 45ms to each frame.. which would be a gaming deal breaker. I tried turning all processing off.. pure motion et al., and I could not tell a difference. I only had a keyboard with an integrated touchpad on the test rig, and so, it could have been the touchpad, it could have been the 24Hz, or it may be an issue with the projector itself.
I didn't try any movies outside of the 3Dvisionlive site, and none in 2D.
There is no input lag at 1080p. What you experiencing is 1080p at 24Hz. This is because that is the only mode that these new HDMI 1.4 projectors support. So you are only getting a 24Hz refresh rate.
I don't play 3D games but want to watch Blu-ray 3D movie,
although HD33 shown on 3DTVplay supported list from 285.62 driver.
but I still can't find a good solution.
I completed 3D vision setting in the NVIDIA Control Panel,
the demo sample is really COOL.
But when I play Blu-Ray 3D movie with Arcsoft TotalMedia Theatre 5 or PowerDVD11,
there's always a big problem so that I can't enjoy the 3D movie.
Under 285.62 - The movie playing very stuttering, although projector ran in 3D mode, but almost no 3D effect at all.
Under 285.79 - I can see 3D effect when movie playing, but it can playing only shorter than 1 minute,
then system crash with pure color(whole blue or white or other) shown on screen,
I must turn off power manually.
Under newest 290.36 - both program crashed when Blu-ray 3D playing began,
after a 5-seconds blue background/white text condition-typical windows crash scene,
(I can't read the information clearly since displaying was under 3D mode)
the system auto reboot.
I tried both 3D resolution 1920x1080 24p & 1280x720 60p supported by HDMI 1.4a,
but the same result. :(
I don't play 3D games but want to watch Blu-ray 3D movie,
although HD33 shown on 3DTVplay supported list from 285.62 driver.
but I still can't find a good solution.
I completed 3D vision setting in the NVIDIA Control Panel,
the demo sample is really COOL.
But when I play Blu-Ray 3D movie with Arcsoft TotalMedia Theatre 5 or PowerDVD11,
there's always a big problem so that I can't enjoy the 3D movie.
Under 285.62 - The movie playing very stuttering, although projector ran in 3D mode, but almost no 3D effect at all.
Under 285.79 - I can see 3D effect when movie playing, but it can playing only shorter than 1 minute,
then system crash with pure color(whole blue or white or other) shown on screen,
I must turn off power manually.
Under newest 290.36 - both program crashed when Blu-ray 3D playing began,
after a 5-seconds blue background/white text condition-typical windows crash scene,
(I can't read the information clearly since displaying was under 3D mode)
the system auto reboot.
I tried both 3D resolution 1920x1080 24p & 1280x720 60p supported by HDMI 1.4a,
but the same result. :(
Graphics card : GeForce 320M
CPU make and model : Intel Core 2 Duo 2.66GHz
System: Mac mini server (2010 ver)
Amount of system memory : 8Gb
Primary monitor : Dell WFP2707 / Optoma HD33
Operating system : Windows 7 x64 SP1
There is no input lag at 1080p. What you experiencing is 1080p at 24Hz. This is because that is the only mode that these new HDMI 1.4 projectors support. So you are only getting a 24Hz refresh rate.
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Just checking back with you guys on this. I do experience a lot of input lag, and it's really odd. I totally get what you're saying about the 24Hz issue, and I agree. However, I get a noticable amount of lag at any resolution listed under HD/SD in the NVIDIA control panel. For example 720p 60Hz the mouse lags far enough behind in Windows that it's a pain to click on anything. Choose anything off the PC section, and the problem goes away. 1280x768 60Hz - no problem at all. The highest listed resolution in the PC section is 1680x1050 60Hz again no problem. *Stepping up* to 480p @59Hz (only option), and the lag comes back.
Also, if I set some sort of screwy custom resolution.. 1920x1000 60Hz, again no problem.
So what is going on? How is it that anything on NVIDIA's HD/SD section causes a problem, but setting anything off that menu is fine?
There is no input lag at 1080p. What you experiencing is 1080p at 24Hz. This is because that is the only mode that these new HDMI 1.4 projectors support. So you are only getting a 24Hz refresh rate.
Just checking back with you guys on this. I do experience a lot of input lag, and it's really odd. I totally get what you're saying about the 24Hz issue, and I agree. However, I get a noticable amount of lag at any resolution listed under HD/SD in the NVIDIA control panel. For example 720p 60Hz the mouse lags far enough behind in Windows that it's a pain to click on anything. Choose anything off the PC section, and the problem goes away. 1280x768 60Hz - no problem at all. The highest listed resolution in the PC section is 1680x1050 60Hz again no problem. *Stepping up* to 480p @59Hz (only option), and the lag comes back.
Also, if I set some sort of screwy custom resolution.. 1920x1000 60Hz, again no problem.
So what is going on? How is it that anything on NVIDIA's HD/SD section causes a problem, but setting anything off that menu is fine?
Just checking back with you guys on this. I do experience a lot of input lag, and it's really odd. I totally get what you're saying about the 24Hz issue, and I agree. However, I get a noticable amount of lag at any resolution listed under HD/SD in the NVIDIA control panel. For example 720p 60Hz the mouse lags far enough behind in Windows that it's a pain to click on anything. Choose anything off the PC section, and the problem goes away. 1280x768 60Hz - no problem at all. The highest listed resolution in the PC section is 1680x1050 60Hz again no problem. *Stepping up* to 480p @59Hz (only option), and the lag comes back.
Also, if I set some sort of screwy custom resolution.. 1920x1000 60Hz, again no problem.
So what is going on? How is it that anything on NVIDIA's HD/SD section causes a problem, but setting anything off that menu is fine?
[/quote]
I'd be very interested in hearing a reply to this too. I've got an Acer H9500BD that sounds like it has the same problem. In any 3D mode I get around 170ms of lag, whereas in 2D mode it's fine.
I'd put this down to a broken projector and it's currently back with the manufacturer for a repair. But if the same problem occurs on a different projector perhaps it's a broken driver...
Just checking back with you guys on this. I do experience a lot of input lag, and it's really odd. I totally get what you're saying about the 24Hz issue, and I agree. However, I get a noticable amount of lag at any resolution listed under HD/SD in the NVIDIA control panel. For example 720p 60Hz the mouse lags far enough behind in Windows that it's a pain to click on anything. Choose anything off the PC section, and the problem goes away. 1280x768 60Hz - no problem at all. The highest listed resolution in the PC section is 1680x1050 60Hz again no problem. *Stepping up* to 480p @59Hz (only option), and the lag comes back.
Also, if I set some sort of screwy custom resolution.. 1920x1000 60Hz, again no problem.
So what is going on? How is it that anything on NVIDIA's HD/SD section causes a problem, but setting anything off that menu is fine?
I'd be very interested in hearing a reply to this too. I've got an Acer H9500BD that sounds like it has the same problem. In any 3D mode I get around 170ms of lag, whereas in 2D mode it's fine.
I'd put this down to a broken projector and it's currently back with the manufacturer for a repair. But if the same problem occurs on a different projector perhaps it's a broken driver...
Just checking back with you guys on this. I do experience a lot of input lag, and it's really odd. I totally get what you're saying about the 24Hz issue, and I agree. However, I get a noticable amount of lag at any resolution listed under HD/SD in the NVIDIA control panel. For example 720p 60Hz the mouse lags far enough behind in Windows that it's a pain to click on anything. Choose anything off the PC section, and the problem goes away. 1280x768 60Hz - no problem at all. The highest listed resolution in the PC section is 1680x1050 60Hz again no problem. *Stepping up* to 480p @59Hz (only option), and the lag comes back.
Also, if I set some sort of screwy custom resolution.. 1920x1000 60Hz, again no problem.
So what is going on? How is it that anything on NVIDIA's HD/SD section causes a problem, but setting anything off that menu is fine?
[/quote]
Excessive input lag is still another reason to not get a 1080P projector that does not support native res checkerboard. With CB, no input lag, better framerate than 720P framepacking. Since 3DTV Play is the only thing that works, you are forced into non-optimal undesireable video pixel processing mode instead of PC Graphics mode.
You'd be better off with a 1280x720 projector, much better image quality since it plays games in native res.
Just checking back with you guys on this. I do experience a lot of input lag, and it's really odd. I totally get what you're saying about the 24Hz issue, and I agree. However, I get a noticable amount of lag at any resolution listed under HD/SD in the NVIDIA control panel. For example 720p 60Hz the mouse lags far enough behind in Windows that it's a pain to click on anything. Choose anything off the PC section, and the problem goes away. 1280x768 60Hz - no problem at all. The highest listed resolution in the PC section is 1680x1050 60Hz again no problem. *Stepping up* to 480p @59Hz (only option), and the lag comes back.
Also, if I set some sort of screwy custom resolution.. 1920x1000 60Hz, again no problem.
So what is going on? How is it that anything on NVIDIA's HD/SD section causes a problem, but setting anything off that menu is fine?
Excessive input lag is still another reason to not get a 1080P projector that does not support native res checkerboard. With CB, no input lag, better framerate than 720P framepacking. Since 3DTV Play is the only thing that works, you are forced into non-optimal undesireable video pixel processing mode instead of PC Graphics mode.
You'd be better off with a 1280x720 projector, much better image quality since it plays games in native res.
Excessive input lag is still another reason to not get a 1080P projector that does not support native res checkerboard. With CB, no input lag, better framerate than 720P framepacking. Since 3DTV Play is the only thing that works, you are forced into non-optimal undesireable video pixel processing mode instead of PC Graphics mode.
You'd be better off with a 1280x720 projector, much better image quality since it plays games in native res.
[/quote]
To clarify, I'm talking about the 2D resolutions listed in the NVIDIA control panel under HD/SD. Yes, I have the most lag in 1080p 3D, and a noticeable amount in 720p 3D, but 720p 2D shows the same lag as 720p 3D which is also about the same lag in 1080p 2D, and the same with 480p. At first I was thinking bandwidth limit, but with the lower resolutions having the same issues as the higher resolutions, I do not think that's the case. What makes me think it's a driver issue is any 'PC' resolution or any custom resolution is working fine - no noticeable lag.
Every res I've tried is at either 59 or 60 Hz so that rules out refresh lag as the culprit. Excluding 1080p 3D 24Hz (which adds ~42ms lag), every other resolution should be the same at ~17ms lag, but that's not what I'm experiencing.
Excessive input lag is still another reason to not get a 1080P projector that does not support native res checkerboard. With CB, no input lag, better framerate than 720P framepacking. Since 3DTV Play is the only thing that works, you are forced into non-optimal undesireable video pixel processing mode instead of PC Graphics mode.
You'd be better off with a 1280x720 projector, much better image quality since it plays games in native res.
To clarify, I'm talking about the 2D resolutions listed in the NVIDIA control panel under HD/SD. Yes, I have the most lag in 1080p 3D, and a noticeable amount in 720p 3D, but 720p 2D shows the same lag as 720p 3D which is also about the same lag in 1080p 2D, and the same with 480p. At first I was thinking bandwidth limit, but with the lower resolutions having the same issues as the higher resolutions, I do not think that's the case. What makes me think it's a driver issue is any 'PC' resolution or any custom resolution is working fine - no noticeable lag.
Every res I've tried is at either 59 or 60 Hz so that rules out refresh lag as the culprit. Excluding 1080p 3D 24Hz (which adds ~42ms lag), every other resolution should be the same at ~17ms lag, but that's not what I'm experiencing.
To clarify, I'm talking about the 2D resolutions listed in the NVIDIA control panel under HD/SD. Yes, I have the most lag in 1080p 3D, and a noticeable amount in 720p 3D, but 720p 2D shows the same lag as 720p 3D which is also about the same lag in 1080p 2D, and the same with 480p. At first I was thinking bandwidth limit, but with the lower resolutions having the same issues as the higher resolutions, I do not think that's the case. What makes me think it's a driver issue is any 'PC' resolution or any custom resolution is working fine - no noticeable lag.
Every res I've tried is at either 59 or 60 Hz so that rules out refresh lag as the culprit. Excluding 1080p 3D 24Hz (which adds ~42ms lag), every other resolution should be the same at ~17ms lag, but that's not what I'm experiencing.
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Here's the solution: The Optoma HD33 projector was applying 'Pure Motion' to any TV resolution it recognized. Pure Motion is their fast action smoothing thing. Setting it to off fixed the problem. I hope this helps someone else.
To clarify, I'm talking about the 2D resolutions listed in the NVIDIA control panel under HD/SD. Yes, I have the most lag in 1080p 3D, and a noticeable amount in 720p 3D, but 720p 2D shows the same lag as 720p 3D which is also about the same lag in 1080p 2D, and the same with 480p. At first I was thinking bandwidth limit, but with the lower resolutions having the same issues as the higher resolutions, I do not think that's the case. What makes me think it's a driver issue is any 'PC' resolution or any custom resolution is working fine - no noticeable lag.
Every res I've tried is at either 59 or 60 Hz so that rules out refresh lag as the culprit. Excluding 1080p 3D 24Hz (which adds ~42ms lag), every other resolution should be the same at ~17ms lag, but that's not what I'm experiencing.
Here's the solution: The Optoma HD33 projector was applying 'Pure Motion' to any TV resolution it recognized. Pure Motion is their fast action smoothing thing. Setting it to off fixed the problem. I hope this helps someone else.