3DVision Ghosting Depth crossover
Hi all,

Tonight I've played around alot with settings on my samsung monitor and nvidia settings to no avail, all I can say is when setting depth to 100% the cross over with images leaves bad ghosting effect, even at the 15% recomendations.. I see it this way when you ajust the depth it's like having two parallel lines which cross over each other when the depth is increased causing the ghosting effect, so why isn't there a setting that allows you to reset these two lines of sight parallel again once you've ajusted the depth? Imagine 2 rulers lined up parallel in front of you vertically and as you ajust the depth cross over the rulers and make an X, now if you had another slide bar to straighten the rulers back to parallel at the same 100% depth then the sterio scopic veiw should be right and you would end up with no shadowing in theory, but because you only have one main ajustment bar you can't get the 2 images parallel hence shadowing. Shorley this can be sorted out? As it doesn't seem to me that the monitor or glasses and emitter is to blame, it's the software that doesn't allow you to ajust the images to compensate. It's like any person who crosses their eyes and you get double vision, and to straighten that out you look forward both eyes parallel to get true depth, so this should be easy with 3d vision surely...

Hope all that makes sence.
Hi all,



Tonight I've played around alot with settings on my samsung monitor and nvidia settings to no avail, all I can say is when setting depth to 100% the cross over with images leaves bad ghosting effect, even at the 15% recomendations.. I see it this way when you ajust the depth it's like having two parallel lines which cross over each other when the depth is increased causing the ghosting effect, so why isn't there a setting that allows you to reset these two lines of sight parallel again once you've ajusted the depth? Imagine 2 rulers lined up parallel in front of you vertically and as you ajust the depth cross over the rulers and make an X, now if you had another slide bar to straighten the rulers back to parallel at the same 100% depth then the sterio scopic veiw should be right and you would end up with no shadowing in theory, but because you only have one main ajustment bar you can't get the 2 images parallel hence shadowing. Shorley this can be sorted out? As it doesn't seem to me that the monitor or glasses and emitter is to blame, it's the software that doesn't allow you to ajust the images to compensate. It's like any person who crosses their eyes and you get double vision, and to straighten that out you look forward both eyes parallel to get true depth, so this should be easy with 3d vision surely...



Hope all that makes sence.

#1
Posted 01/08/2011 11:06 PM   
Yes,and the name is Convergence...

Turn it on in the Nvidia control panel...
Yes,and the name is Convergence...



Turn it on in the Nvidia control panel...

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#2
Posted 01/09/2011 12:39 AM   
[quote name='Ferry' date='09 January 2011 - 12:39 AM' timestamp='1294533578' post='1173903']
Yes,and the name is Convergence...

Turn it on in the Nvidia control panel...
[/quote]

i have the same ghosting problem , even at the lowest depth

i cant see any "convergence" settign s in the nvidia control panel
help !!
[quote name='Ferry' date='09 January 2011 - 12:39 AM' timestamp='1294533578' post='1173903']

Yes,and the name is Convergence...



Turn it on in the Nvidia control panel...





i have the same ghosting problem , even at the lowest depth



i cant see any "convergence" settign s in the nvidia control panel

help !!

#3
Posted 01/09/2011 01:09 AM   
Yes I know and it doesn't work as the images still ghost in the back ground, Convergence may stop ghosting in the forground, but not in the background because the images are not parellel.

Under the 3d settings in the nvidia control panel is a setting fot the keys, hightlight the advance box to use the keys.


By the way, with 3d vision, it's like in real life, as you alter the depth it's the same effect as crossing your eyes you get double vision "ghosting" the more depth the worse it gets, so you need a control to uncross the images and convergence isn't the answer.
Yes I know and it doesn't work as the images still ghost in the back ground, Convergence may stop ghosting in the forground, but not in the background because the images are not parellel.



Under the 3d settings in the nvidia control panel is a setting fot the keys, hightlight the advance box to use the keys.





By the way, with 3d vision, it's like in real life, as you alter the depth it's the same effect as crossing your eyes you get double vision "ghosting" the more depth the worse it gets, so you need a control to uncross the images and convergence isn't the answer.

#4
Posted 01/09/2011 01:12 AM   
It is always amazing that some people just cannot learn to ignore the ghosting. It isn't that bad, and it fades out of my focus really fast, but if you were looking for a ghosting free experience, there are DLPs available. I've heard that some of newer 3d ready TVs are downright awesome as well.
It is always amazing that some people just cannot learn to ignore the ghosting. It isn't that bad, and it fades out of my focus really fast, but if you were looking for a ghosting free experience, there are DLPs available. I've heard that some of newer 3d ready TVs are downright awesome as well.

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#5
Posted 01/09/2011 06:43 AM   
Maybe, all people complaining about ghosting, should do some playing with Red/Cyan-glasses. Then we can talk about ghosting /wink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' /> .
Maybe, all people complaining about ghosting, should do some playing with Red/Cyan-glasses. Then we can talk about ghosting /wink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' /> .

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#6
Posted 01/09/2011 11:08 AM   
B.t.w. We should make a sticky aboud this convergence...
So we won't have to explain anymore...
B.t.w. We should make a sticky aboud this convergence...

So we won't have to explain anymore...

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#7
Posted 01/09/2011 12:12 PM   
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