https://www.optoma.com/ap/wp-content/uploads/sites/11/2018/11/Optoma_HD27H_eBrochure_EN.pdf
https://www.optoma.com/ap/product/hd27h/
Embrace HDR technology and large screen experiences with the 3,400 lumen HD27H 1080p home entertainment projector. Its HDMI 2.0 with HDCP 2.2 input and 50,000:1 contrast ratio accepts HDR10 content for brighter whites and deeper black levels with vivid colors for an unmatched 1080p experience.
An enhanced gaming mode compatible with 1080p HDR sources, reduces input lag to 16ms for lightning-fast response when connected to the latest HDR ready gaming consoles and PCs. Full 3D 1080p support enables immersive cinematic experiences in movies and games. Vertical keystone and a 1.1x zoom bring flexible mounting and installation. Up to 15,000 hours of lamp life ensures long-term reliability for years of entertainment with minimal maintenance.
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There doesn't seem to be an owner's manual available for download yet. Also no confirmation of support for 1080P@120Hz Frame Sequential.
Embrace HDR technology and large screen experiences with the 3,400 lumen HD27H 1080p home entertainment projector. Its HDMI 2.0 with HDCP 2.2 input and 50,000:1 contrast ratio accepts HDR10 content for brighter whites and deeper black levels with vivid colors for an unmatched 1080p experience.
An enhanced gaming mode compatible with 1080p HDR sources, reduces input lag to 16ms for lightning-fast response when connected to the latest HDR ready gaming consoles and PCs. Full 3D 1080p support enables immersive cinematic experiences in movies and games. Vertical keystone and a 1.1x zoom bring flexible mounting and installation. Up to 15,000 hours of lamp life ensures long-term reliability for years of entertainment with minimal maintenance.
Correct me if I'm wrong but the HD27H has a 3D Sync VESA-Port on the back side. Could we use this to plug the 3D Vision emitter into this? Or any another IR / RF emitter?
Let's assume that the Optoma HD27H does support SbS / T&B and Framepacked 3D format but frame sequential 3D is not supported (like we already saw for Optoma UHD51). Could we bypass this limitation by just plugging a IR / RF emitter into the 3D sync VESA port and use this for synchronizing the 120hz input signal with the glasses?
Correct me if I'm wrong but the HD27H has a 3D Sync VESA-Port on the back side. Could we use this to plug the 3D Vision emitter into this? Or any another IR / RF emitter?
Let's assume that the Optoma HD27H does support SbS / T&B and Framepacked 3D format but frame sequential 3D is not supported (like we already saw for Optoma UHD51). Could we bypass this limitation by just plugging a IR / RF emitter into the 3D sync VESA port and use this for synchronizing the 120hz input signal with the glasses?
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As Paul eluded to, I believe 'Full 3D 1080p Support' means:
[list]
[.]Frame-packed 1080p/24hz, 720p/60Hz[/.]
[.]SBS and TaB modes at 1080p/60Hz[/.]
[.]No 3D-Ready/PC/Frame Sequential support[/.]
[/list]
[quote="Pauldusler"]Correct me if I'm wrong but the HD27H has a 3D Sync VESA-Port on the back side. Could we use this to plug the 3D Vision emitter into this? Or any another IR / RF emitter?[/quote]
No. Nvidia's emitter is driven by the USB connection. The additional Vesa connection has no driver capabilities. It was only used to extract a sync signal from Quadro GPUs or supported Mitsubihi DLP TVs.
HDMI has had "optional" Frame Sequential support as a stereo flag since version 1.4. Unfortunately Nvidia and manufacturers have "stupidly" falling back to the mandatory supported formats.
https://www.hdmi.org/manufacturer/hdmi_1_4/3d.aspx
[color="orange"] Frame[/color], line, or field alternative methods
Side by side methods (full and half)
2D plus depth methods
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3D Mandatory Formats
For movie content:
Frame Packing
1080p @ 23.98/24Hz
For game content:
Frame Packing
720p @ 50 or 59.94/60Hz
For broadcast content:
Side-by-Side Horizontal
1080i @ 50 or 59.94/60Hz
Top-and-Bottom
720p @ 50 or 59.94/60Hz
1080p @ 23.97/24Hz
https://www.hdmi.org/press/press_release.aspx?prid=120
Pauldusler said:Correct me if I'm wrong but the HD27H has a 3D Sync VESA-Port on the back side. Could we use this to plug the 3D Vision emitter into this? Or any another IR / RF emitter?
No. Nvidia's emitter is driven by the USB connection. The additional Vesa connection has no driver capabilities. It was only used to extract a sync signal from Quadro GPUs or supported Mitsubihi DLP TVs.
HDMI has had "optional" Frame Sequential support as a stereo flag since version 1.4. Unfortunately Nvidia and manufacturers have "stupidly" falling back to the mandatory supported formats.
[quote="Pauldusler"]Correct me if I'm wrong but the HD27H has a 3D Sync VESA-Port on the back side. Could we use this to plug the 3D Vision emitter into this? Or any another IR / RF emitter?[/quote]
Yes, you could use a 3rd Party emitter to sync compatible glasses. But you would still need to use an Nvidia emitter to unlock Nvidia's stereoscopic drives. Unless the using an earlier driver and workaround as described [url=https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/1099287/3d-vision/3dtv-play-24hz-workaround-verified-working/]here[/url]
[quote="Pauldusler"]Let's assume that the Optoma HD27H does support SbS / T&B and Framepacked 3D format but frame sequential 3D is not supported (like we already saw for Optoma UHD51). Could we bypass this limitation by just plugging a IR / RF emitter into the 3D sync VESA port and use this for synchronizing the 120hz input signal with the glasses?[/quote]
If the software for the Projectors Vesa port doesn't support it. there would be no way to force it.
The same would ring true for the DLP Link Sync.
However, if it truly supports 120Hz input and displays 120 individual frames, then it should work with Nvidia's glasses and Generic CRT or 3D Vision via an id swap or EDID override.
Pauldusler said:Correct me if I'm wrong but the HD27H has a 3D Sync VESA-Port on the back side. Could we use this to plug the 3D Vision emitter into this? Or any another IR / RF emitter?
Yes, you could use a 3rd Party emitter to sync compatible glasses. But you would still need to use an Nvidia emitter to unlock Nvidia's stereoscopic drives. Unless the using an earlier driver and workaround as described here
Pauldusler said:Let's assume that the Optoma HD27H does support SbS / T&B and Framepacked 3D format but frame sequential 3D is not supported (like we already saw for Optoma UHD51). Could we bypass this limitation by just plugging a IR / RF emitter into the 3D sync VESA port and use this for synchronizing the 120hz input signal with the glasses?
If the software for the Projectors Vesa port doesn't support it. there would be no way to force it.
The same would ring true for the DLP Link Sync.
However, if it truly supports 120Hz input and displays 120 individual frames, then it should work with Nvidia's glasses and Generic CRT or 3D Vision via an id swap or EDID override.
Thx for your reply D-Man11. Interesting to know as I have never used that VESA port (Never had one available on the projectors I had so far).
Let's see if that projector indeed works with 3D Vision / frame sequential. I'm looking forward for first reports if someone was able to make it work. The Optoma HD27H would be a more affordable alternative for the Optoma UHD 40/50.
Thx for your reply D-Man11. Interesting to know as I have never used that VESA port (Never had one available on the projectors I had so far).
Let's see if that projector indeed works with 3D Vision / frame sequential. I'm looking forward for first reports if someone was able to make it work. The Optoma HD27H would be a more affordable alternative for the Optoma UHD 40/50.
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[quote="Pauldusler"]...The Optoma HD27H would be a more affordable alternative for the Optoma UHD 40/50.[/quote]
Optoma HD27HDR - more interesting model, imho
[quote="CyberOZZ"][quote="RS422"][quote="Pauldusler"]...The Optoma HD27H would be a more affordable alternative for the Optoma UHD 40/50.[/quote]
Optoma HD27HDR - more interesting model, imho[/quote]
Indeed.
According to the User Manual of the Optoma HD29H (European Model of the HD27HDR ?!?) the Beamer has 120hz and supports ALL 3d Formats.
So I ASSUME that 3D 1080p 120 should also work...
Did anyone test this Beamer yet?[/quote]
Wow ok this time the confusion is perfect!!
Optoma did it again... they named the projector differently depending on the country you live.
America: Optoma HD27HDR
Asia: Optoma HD27H
Europe: Optoma HD29H
Congratulations Optoma... now everyone is really confused.
@CyberOZZ: thx for that tip. I already wondered why I haven't seen the Optoma HD27HDR on the European market yet.
And yes indeed: according to the manual frame sequential 3D is supported. So let's keep fingers crossed :). But strangely framepacked 3D is not listed... so no bluray 3D?
Congratulations Optoma... now everyone is really confused.
@CyberOZZ: thx for that tip. I already wondered why I haven't seen the Optoma HD27HDR on the European market yet.
And yes indeed: according to the manual frame sequential 3D is supported. So let's keep fingers crossed :). But strangely framepacked 3D is not listed... so no bluray 3D?
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There will be two HDMI inputs.
One will be HDMI 1.4 and do the basic low end stuff that we've seen on that type of connection. Like Blue-ray 3D.
The second HDMI input will be version 2.0 and have 1080P@120Hz. It will also accept HDR and 4K input.
PDF
https://www.optoma.com/us/wp-content/uploads/sites/24/2018/08/HD27HDR_UM.pdf
[quote="Pauldusler"]
America: Optoma HD27HDR
Asia: Optoma HD27H
Europe: Optoma HD29H
Congratulations Optoma... now everyone is really confused.
[/quote]
lol, I actually thought the HD27HDR and HD27H were different models. Had I known they were the same, I wouldn't have started this second thread :P
I already made one for the HD27H
So if the HDMI on the projector is 2.0 would you need a new video card that supports 2.0 HDMI??
Also is the definitely confirmed for 1920 x 1080 @ 120hz in 3D vision??
HDMI 2.0 was first supported on second gen Maxwell I think (9XX series)
No it's not confirmed to work with 1080P@120 full frame Frame Sequential. The thread is only one page long, you can see that no one here has it.
https://www.optoma.com/ap/product/hd27h/
Embrace HDR technology and large screen experiences with the 3,400 lumen HD27H 1080p home entertainment projector. Its HDMI 2.0 with HDCP 2.2 input and 50,000:1 contrast ratio accepts HDR10 content for brighter whites and deeper black levels with vivid colors for an unmatched 1080p experience.
An enhanced gaming mode compatible with 1080p HDR sources, reduces input lag to 16ms for lightning-fast response when connected to the latest HDR ready gaming consoles and PCs. Full 3D 1080p support enables immersive cinematic experiences in movies and games. Vertical keystone and a 1.1x zoom bring flexible mounting and installation. Up to 15,000 hours of lamp life ensures long-term reliability for years of entertainment with minimal maintenance.
_______________________________________________________________________________________________
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There doesn't seem to be an owner's manual available for download yet. Also no confirmation of support for 1080P@120Hz Frame Sequential.
Let's assume that the Optoma HD27H does support SbS / T&B and Framepacked 3D format but frame sequential 3D is not supported (like we already saw for Optoma UHD51). Could we bypass this limitation by just plugging a IR / RF emitter into the 3D sync VESA port and use this for synchronizing the 120hz input signal with the glasses?
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3DTV Play / TriDef 3D
EVGA GTX 1070 (x2 SLI)
Win 10 Pro
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8GB RAM
Optoma UHD51A
No. Nvidia's emitter is driven by the USB connection. The additional Vesa connection has no driver capabilities. It was only used to extract a sync signal from Quadro GPUs or supported Mitsubihi DLP TVs.
HDMI has had "optional" Frame Sequential support as a stereo flag since version 1.4. Unfortunately Nvidia and manufacturers have "stupidly" falling back to the mandatory supported formats.
https://www.hdmi.org/manufacturer/hdmi_1_4/3d.aspx
Frame, line, or field alternative methods
Side by side methods (full and half)
2D plus depth methods
___________________________________________________________________________________________
3D Mandatory Formats
For movie content:
Frame Packing
1080p @ 23.98/24Hz
For game content:
Frame Packing
720p @ 50 or 59.94/60Hz
For broadcast content:
Side-by-Side Horizontal
1080i @ 50 or 59.94/60Hz
Top-and-Bottom
720p @ 50 or 59.94/60Hz
1080p @ 23.97/24Hz
https://www.hdmi.org/press/press_release.aspx?prid=120
Yes, you could use a 3rd Party emitter to sync compatible glasses. But you would still need to use an Nvidia emitter to unlock Nvidia's stereoscopic drives. Unless the using an earlier driver and workaround as described here
If the software for the Projectors Vesa port doesn't support it. there would be no way to force it.
The same would ring true for the DLP Link Sync.
However, if it truly supports 120Hz input and displays 120 individual frames, then it should work with Nvidia's glasses and Generic CRT or 3D Vision via an id swap or EDID override.
Let's see if that projector indeed works with 3D Vision / frame sequential. I'm looking forward for first reports if someone was able to make it work. The Optoma HD27H would be a more affordable alternative for the Optoma UHD 40/50.
ASUS ROG Strix GeForce GTX 1080 | Core I7-7700K | 16GB RAM | Win10 Pro x64
Asus ROG Swift PG278Q 3D Vision Monitor
Optoma UHD 40 3D Vision Projector
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Optoma HD27HDR - more interesting model, imho
4K3D on passive LG OLED 4K TV 65C6V, GTX 1080 Ti, Win 8.1 64 Pro, i7-7700, 3D-Vision 2 on Benq LW61-LED PJ. HTC Vive. Panasonic Z-10000 3D Camcorder
Wow ok this time the confusion is perfect!!
Optoma did it again... they named the projector differently depending on the country you live.
America: Optoma HD27HDR
Asia: Optoma HD27H
Europe: Optoma HD29H
Congratulations Optoma... now everyone is really confused.
@CyberOZZ: thx for that tip. I already wondered why I haven't seen the Optoma HD27HDR on the European market yet.
And yes indeed: according to the manual frame sequential 3D is supported. So let's keep fingers crossed :). But strangely framepacked 3D is not listed... so no bluray 3D?
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One will be HDMI 1.4 and do the basic low end stuff that we've seen on that type of connection. Like Blue-ray 3D.
The second HDMI input will be version 2.0 and have 1080P@120Hz. It will also accept HDR and 4K input.
PDF
https://www.optoma.com/us/wp-content/uploads/sites/24/2018/08/HD27HDR_UM.pdf
lol, I actually thought the HD27HDR and HD27H were different models. Had I known they were the same, I wouldn't have started this second thread :P
I already made one for the HD27H
Also is the definitely confirmed for 1920 x 1080 @ 120hz in 3D vision??
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No it's not confirmed to work with 1080P@120 full frame Frame Sequential. The thread is only one page long, you can see that no one here has it.
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