3D Vision at 110Hz / 120Hz
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rustyk: instead of using that EDID override, use the generic non-pnp monitor driver and let 3d vision use the "analog crt" output. Then, with the use of this guide from nvidia [[url="ftp://download.nvidia.com/Windows/40.41/NVCompMode_UG_20.pdf"]Compressed Modes User's Guide[/url]] add the resolutions, bit colors and refresh rates that you want to be available inserting the codes at the appropiated key of the windows register. Be careful to add only video modes that are supported by the projector as listed on the projector manual.

I have an acer h5360, but the 5m long vga cable don't let the EDID data go through. Fortunately I'm running fine thanks to those "compressed modes".
I can't confirm if you will be able to run in 3D mode at a refresh rate other than 120Hz, though. I just tested it in 120Hz and couldn't do any further test in several days.
rustyk: instead of using that EDID override, use the generic non-pnp monitor driver and let 3d vision use the "analog crt" output. Then, with the use of this guide from nvidia [Compressed Modes User's Guide] add the resolutions, bit colors and refresh rates that you want to be available inserting the codes at the appropiated key of the windows register. Be careful to add only video modes that are supported by the projector as listed on the projector manual.



I have an acer h5360, but the 5m long vga cable don't let the EDID data go through. Fortunately I'm running fine thanks to those "compressed modes".

I can't confirm if you will be able to run in 3D mode at a refresh rate other than 120Hz, though. I just tested it in 120Hz and couldn't do any further test in several days.

#16
Posted 06/14/2011 11:18 AM   
rustyk: instead of using that EDID override, use the generic non-pnp monitor driver and let 3d vision use the "analog crt" output. Then, with the use of this guide from nvidia [[url="ftp://download.nvidia.com/Windows/40.41/NVCompMode_UG_20.pdf"]Compressed Modes User's Guide[/url]] add the resolutions, bit colors and refresh rates that you want to be available inserting the codes at the appropiated key of the windows register. Be careful to add only video modes that are supported by the projector as listed on the projector manual.

I have an acer h5360, but the 5m long vga cable don't let the EDID data go through. Fortunately I'm running fine thanks to those "compressed modes".
I can't confirm if you will be able to run in 3D mode at a refresh rate other than 120Hz, though. I just tested it in 120Hz and couldn't do any further test in several days.
rustyk: instead of using that EDID override, use the generic non-pnp monitor driver and let 3d vision use the "analog crt" output. Then, with the use of this guide from nvidia [Compressed Modes User's Guide] add the resolutions, bit colors and refresh rates that you want to be available inserting the codes at the appropiated key of the windows register. Be careful to add only video modes that are supported by the projector as listed on the projector manual.



I have an acer h5360, but the 5m long vga cable don't let the EDID data go through. Fortunately I'm running fine thanks to those "compressed modes".

I can't confirm if you will be able to run in 3D mode at a refresh rate other than 120Hz, though. I just tested it in 120Hz and couldn't do any further test in several days.

#17
Posted 06/14/2011 11:18 AM   
Another reason for wanting other refresh rates is that you get a significant drop in brightness at 120hz compared to 110hz or 100hz.

Crim3 - that sounds very interesting. I'm not sure if I mentioned it but I'm running Windows 7 - does that guide still apply?

Cheers.
Another reason for wanting other refresh rates is that you get a significant drop in brightness at 120hz compared to 110hz or 100hz.



Crim3 - that sounds very interesting. I'm not sure if I mentioned it but I'm running Windows 7 - does that guide still apply?



Cheers.

GTX 1070 SLI, I7-6700k ~ 4.4Ghz, 3x BenQ XL2420T, BenQ TK800, LG 55EG960V (3D OLED), Samsung 850 EVO SSD, Crucial M4 SSD, 3D vision kit, Xpand x104 glasses, Corsair HX1000i, Win 10 pro 64/Win 7 64https://www.3dmark.com/fs/9529310

#18
Posted 06/14/2011 04:31 PM   
Another reason for wanting other refresh rates is that you get a significant drop in brightness at 120hz compared to 110hz or 100hz.

Crim3 - that sounds very interesting. I'm not sure if I mentioned it but I'm running Windows 7 - does that guide still apply?

Cheers.
Another reason for wanting other refresh rates is that you get a significant drop in brightness at 120hz compared to 110hz or 100hz.



Crim3 - that sounds very interesting. I'm not sure if I mentioned it but I'm running Windows 7 - does that guide still apply?



Cheers.

GTX 1070 SLI, I7-6700k ~ 4.4Ghz, 3x BenQ XL2420T, BenQ TK800, LG 55EG960V (3D OLED), Samsung 850 EVO SSD, Crucial M4 SSD, 3D vision kit, Xpand x104 glasses, Corsair HX1000i, Win 10 pro 64/Win 7 64https://www.3dmark.com/fs/9529310

#19
Posted 06/14/2011 04:31 PM   
Yes, sure, I've used it with win7. The first time I needed it was to make 3d vision output 800x600 at 60Hz for the head mounted display I had before and worked like a charm. Those were the times when 3d vision could be easily fooled via register hack to enable shutters output with any display, but had problems to force the output at 60Hz. That guide fixed it. I deleted all 800x600 modes other than 60Hz.

Yesterday I did some tests and could enable 3D at 60, 75, 85 and 100 Hz, although glasses only synchronized correctly at 100 Hz. I didn't try at 110 specifically. Maybe this afternoon.

(edit: oops! 110Hz is not listed)
Yes, sure, I've used it with win7. The first time I needed it was to make 3d vision output 800x600 at 60Hz for the head mounted display I had before and worked like a charm. Those were the times when 3d vision could be easily fooled via register hack to enable shutters output with any display, but had problems to force the output at 60Hz. That guide fixed it. I deleted all 800x600 modes other than 60Hz.



Yesterday I did some tests and could enable 3D at 60, 75, 85 and 100 Hz, although glasses only synchronized correctly at 100 Hz. I didn't try at 110 specifically. Maybe this afternoon.



(edit: oops! 110Hz is not listed)

#20
Posted 06/15/2011 03:51 PM   
Yes, sure, I've used it with win7. The first time I needed it was to make 3d vision output 800x600 at 60Hz for the head mounted display I had before and worked like a charm. Those were the times when 3d vision could be easily fooled via register hack to enable shutters output with any display, but had problems to force the output at 60Hz. That guide fixed it. I deleted all 800x600 modes other than 60Hz.

Yesterday I did some tests and could enable 3D at 60, 75, 85 and 100 Hz, although glasses only synchronized correctly at 100 Hz. I didn't try at 110 specifically. Maybe this afternoon.

(edit: oops! 110Hz is not listed)
Yes, sure, I've used it with win7. The first time I needed it was to make 3d vision output 800x600 at 60Hz for the head mounted display I had before and worked like a charm. Those were the times when 3d vision could be easily fooled via register hack to enable shutters output with any display, but had problems to force the output at 60Hz. That guide fixed it. I deleted all 800x600 modes other than 60Hz.



Yesterday I did some tests and could enable 3D at 60, 75, 85 and 100 Hz, although glasses only synchronized correctly at 100 Hz. I didn't try at 110 specifically. Maybe this afternoon.



(edit: oops! 110Hz is not listed)

#21
Posted 06/15/2011 03:51 PM   
[quote name='crim3' date='15 June 2011 - 03:51 PM' timestamp='1308153102' post='1252125']
Yes, sure, I've used it with win7. The first time I needed it was to make 3d vision output 800x600 at 60Hz for the head mounted display I had before and worked like a charm. Those were the times when 3d vision could be easily fooled via register hack to enable shutters output with any display, but had problems to force the output at 60Hz. That guide fixed it. I deleted all 800x600 modes other than 60Hz.

Yesterday I did some tests and could enable 3D at 60, 75, 85 and 100 Hz, although glasses only synchronized correctly at 100 Hz. I didn't try at 110 specifically. Maybe this afternoon.

(edit: oops! 110Hz is not listed)
[/quote]


Perfect, so 100Hz finally seems to be possible in 3D with the H5360! Crim3, can you tell whether there is increased brightness with 100Hz? But, the most important reason I'd love to have 100Hz is that 50 Hz is gives you smooth playback with all Blu-Rays (Use Reclock to speed them up from 24 fps to 25 fps).

It would be great if you, Crim3, could give us a short "manual" with all steps that are required to enable 100Hz. It seems not to be that easy with those compressed modes? What do we have to do first, second and so on... Thank you very much for finally finding out that 100Hz are working!
[quote name='crim3' date='15 June 2011 - 03:51 PM' timestamp='1308153102' post='1252125']

Yes, sure, I've used it with win7. The first time I needed it was to make 3d vision output 800x600 at 60Hz for the head mounted display I had before and worked like a charm. Those were the times when 3d vision could be easily fooled via register hack to enable shutters output with any display, but had problems to force the output at 60Hz. That guide fixed it. I deleted all 800x600 modes other than 60Hz.



Yesterday I did some tests and could enable 3D at 60, 75, 85 and 100 Hz, although glasses only synchronized correctly at 100 Hz. I didn't try at 110 specifically. Maybe this afternoon.



(edit: oops! 110Hz is not listed)







Perfect, so 100Hz finally seems to be possible in 3D with the H5360! Crim3, can you tell whether there is increased brightness with 100Hz? But, the most important reason I'd love to have 100Hz is that 50 Hz is gives you smooth playback with all Blu-Rays (Use Reclock to speed them up from 24 fps to 25 fps).



It would be great if you, Crim3, could give us a short "manual" with all steps that are required to enable 100Hz. It seems not to be that easy with those compressed modes? What do we have to do first, second and so on... Thank you very much for finally finding out that 100Hz are working!

#22
Posted 06/15/2011 06:54 PM   
[quote name='crim3' date='15 June 2011 - 03:51 PM' timestamp='1308153102' post='1252125']
Yes, sure, I've used it with win7. The first time I needed it was to make 3d vision output 800x600 at 60Hz for the head mounted display I had before and worked like a charm. Those were the times when 3d vision could be easily fooled via register hack to enable shutters output with any display, but had problems to force the output at 60Hz. That guide fixed it. I deleted all 800x600 modes other than 60Hz.

Yesterday I did some tests and could enable 3D at 60, 75, 85 and 100 Hz, although glasses only synchronized correctly at 100 Hz. I didn't try at 110 specifically. Maybe this afternoon.

(edit: oops! 110Hz is not listed)
[/quote]


Perfect, so 100Hz finally seems to be possible in 3D with the H5360! Crim3, can you tell whether there is increased brightness with 100Hz? But, the most important reason I'd love to have 100Hz is that 50 Hz is gives you smooth playback with all Blu-Rays (Use Reclock to speed them up from 24 fps to 25 fps).

It would be great if you, Crim3, could give us a short "manual" with all steps that are required to enable 100Hz. It seems not to be that easy with those compressed modes? What do we have to do first, second and so on... Thank you very much for finally finding out that 100Hz are working!
[quote name='crim3' date='15 June 2011 - 03:51 PM' timestamp='1308153102' post='1252125']

Yes, sure, I've used it with win7. The first time I needed it was to make 3d vision output 800x600 at 60Hz for the head mounted display I had before and worked like a charm. Those were the times when 3d vision could be easily fooled via register hack to enable shutters output with any display, but had problems to force the output at 60Hz. That guide fixed it. I deleted all 800x600 modes other than 60Hz.



Yesterday I did some tests and could enable 3D at 60, 75, 85 and 100 Hz, although glasses only synchronized correctly at 100 Hz. I didn't try at 110 specifically. Maybe this afternoon.



(edit: oops! 110Hz is not listed)







Perfect, so 100Hz finally seems to be possible in 3D with the H5360! Crim3, can you tell whether there is increased brightness with 100Hz? But, the most important reason I'd love to have 100Hz is that 50 Hz is gives you smooth playback with all Blu-Rays (Use Reclock to speed them up from 24 fps to 25 fps).



It would be great if you, Crim3, could give us a short "manual" with all steps that are required to enable 100Hz. It seems not to be that easy with those compressed modes? What do we have to do first, second and so on... Thank you very much for finally finding out that 100Hz are working!

#23
Posted 06/15/2011 06:54 PM   
[quote name='Mustang84' date='15 June 2011 - 06:54 PM' timestamp='1308164059' post='1252188']
Perfect, so 100Hz finally seems to be possible in 3D with the H5360! Crim3, can you tell whether there is increased brightness with 100Hz? But, the most important reason I'd love to have 100Hz is that 50 Hz is gives you smooth playback with all Blu-Rays (Use Reclock to speed them up from 24 fps to 25 fps).

It would be great if you, Crim3, could give us a short "manual" with all steps that are required to enable 100Hz. It seems not to be that easy with those compressed modes? What do we have to do first, second and so on... Thank you very much for finally finding out that 100Hz are working!
[/quote]


Hmm, I just realized that my GTX 480 has not analog output, so 100Hz is impossible?
[quote name='Mustang84' date='15 June 2011 - 06:54 PM' timestamp='1308164059' post='1252188']

Perfect, so 100Hz finally seems to be possible in 3D with the H5360! Crim3, can you tell whether there is increased brightness with 100Hz? But, the most important reason I'd love to have 100Hz is that 50 Hz is gives you smooth playback with all Blu-Rays (Use Reclock to speed them up from 24 fps to 25 fps).



It would be great if you, Crim3, could give us a short "manual" with all steps that are required to enable 100Hz. It seems not to be that easy with those compressed modes? What do we have to do first, second and so on... Thank you very much for finally finding out that 100Hz are working!







Hmm, I just realized that my GTX 480 has not analog output, so 100Hz is impossible?

#24
Posted 06/15/2011 09:27 PM   
[quote name='Mustang84' date='15 June 2011 - 06:54 PM' timestamp='1308164059' post='1252188']
Perfect, so 100Hz finally seems to be possible in 3D with the H5360! Crim3, can you tell whether there is increased brightness with 100Hz? But, the most important reason I'd love to have 100Hz is that 50 Hz is gives you smooth playback with all Blu-Rays (Use Reclock to speed them up from 24 fps to 25 fps).

It would be great if you, Crim3, could give us a short "manual" with all steps that are required to enable 100Hz. It seems not to be that easy with those compressed modes? What do we have to do first, second and so on... Thank you very much for finally finding out that 100Hz are working!
[/quote]


Hmm, I just realized that my GTX 480 has not analog output, so 100Hz is impossible?
[quote name='Mustang84' date='15 June 2011 - 06:54 PM' timestamp='1308164059' post='1252188']

Perfect, so 100Hz finally seems to be possible in 3D with the H5360! Crim3, can you tell whether there is increased brightness with 100Hz? But, the most important reason I'd love to have 100Hz is that 50 Hz is gives you smooth playback with all Blu-Rays (Use Reclock to speed them up from 24 fps to 25 fps).



It would be great if you, Crim3, could give us a short "manual" with all steps that are required to enable 100Hz. It seems not to be that easy with those compressed modes? What do we have to do first, second and so on... Thank you very much for finally finding out that 100Hz are working!







Hmm, I just realized that my GTX 480 has not analog output, so 100Hz is impossible?

#25
Posted 06/15/2011 09:27 PM   
With a cheap dvi->vga connector?

What about if i want 100Hz via hdmi? I need a 10m cable, and with
vga connection i loose quality with this distance.
With a cheap dvi->vga connector?



What about if i want 100Hz via hdmi? I need a 10m cable, and with

vga connection i loose quality with this distance.

#26
Posted 06/16/2011 05:16 AM   
With a cheap dvi->vga connector?

What about if i want 100Hz via hdmi? I need a 10m cable, and with
vga connection i loose quality with this distance.
With a cheap dvi->vga connector?



What about if i want 100Hz via hdmi? I need a 10m cable, and with

vga connection i loose quality with this distance.

#27
Posted 06/16/2011 05:16 AM   
[quote name='crim3' date='15 June 2011 - 04:51 PM' timestamp='1308153102' post='1252125']
Yes, sure, I've used it with win7. The first time I needed it was to make 3d vision output 800x600 at 60Hz for the head mounted display I had before and worked like a charm. Those were the times when 3d vision could be easily fooled via register hack to enable shutters output with any display, but had problems to force the output at 60Hz. That guide fixed it. I deleted all 800x600 modes other than 60Hz.

Yesterday I did some tests and could enable 3D at 60, 75, 85 and 100 Hz, although glasses only synchronized correctly at 100 Hz. I didn't try at 110 specifically. Maybe this afternoon.

(edit: oops! 110Hz is not listed)
[/quote]

That's great. I've looked through the guide and it's not particularly complicated, just need to get a chance to try it out as have been so busy. Will let you know how I get on.
[quote name='crim3' date='15 June 2011 - 04:51 PM' timestamp='1308153102' post='1252125']

Yes, sure, I've used it with win7. The first time I needed it was to make 3d vision output 800x600 at 60Hz for the head mounted display I had before and worked like a charm. Those were the times when 3d vision could be easily fooled via register hack to enable shutters output with any display, but had problems to force the output at 60Hz. That guide fixed it. I deleted all 800x600 modes other than 60Hz.



Yesterday I did some tests and could enable 3D at 60, 75, 85 and 100 Hz, although glasses only synchronized correctly at 100 Hz. I didn't try at 110 specifically. Maybe this afternoon.



(edit: oops! 110Hz is not listed)





That's great. I've looked through the guide and it's not particularly complicated, just need to get a chance to try it out as have been so busy. Will let you know how I get on.

GTX 1070 SLI, I7-6700k ~ 4.4Ghz, 3x BenQ XL2420T, BenQ TK800, LG 55EG960V (3D OLED), Samsung 850 EVO SSD, Crucial M4 SSD, 3D vision kit, Xpand x104 glasses, Corsair HX1000i, Win 10 pro 64/Win 7 64https://www.3dmark.com/fs/9529310

#28
Posted 06/16/2011 06:09 PM   
[quote name='crim3' date='15 June 2011 - 04:51 PM' timestamp='1308153102' post='1252125']
Yes, sure, I've used it with win7. The first time I needed it was to make 3d vision output 800x600 at 60Hz for the head mounted display I had before and worked like a charm. Those were the times when 3d vision could be easily fooled via register hack to enable shutters output with any display, but had problems to force the output at 60Hz. That guide fixed it. I deleted all 800x600 modes other than 60Hz.

Yesterday I did some tests and could enable 3D at 60, 75, 85 and 100 Hz, although glasses only synchronized correctly at 100 Hz. I didn't try at 110 specifically. Maybe this afternoon.

(edit: oops! 110Hz is not listed)
[/quote]

That's great. I've looked through the guide and it's not particularly complicated, just need to get a chance to try it out as have been so busy. Will let you know how I get on.
[quote name='crim3' date='15 June 2011 - 04:51 PM' timestamp='1308153102' post='1252125']

Yes, sure, I've used it with win7. The first time I needed it was to make 3d vision output 800x600 at 60Hz for the head mounted display I had before and worked like a charm. Those were the times when 3d vision could be easily fooled via register hack to enable shutters output with any display, but had problems to force the output at 60Hz. That guide fixed it. I deleted all 800x600 modes other than 60Hz.



Yesterday I did some tests and could enable 3D at 60, 75, 85 and 100 Hz, although glasses only synchronized correctly at 100 Hz. I didn't try at 110 specifically. Maybe this afternoon.



(edit: oops! 110Hz is not listed)





That's great. I've looked through the guide and it's not particularly complicated, just need to get a chance to try it out as have been so busy. Will let you know how I get on.

GTX 1070 SLI, I7-6700k ~ 4.4Ghz, 3x BenQ XL2420T, BenQ TK800, LG 55EG960V (3D OLED), Samsung 850 EVO SSD, Crucial M4 SSD, 3D vision kit, Xpand x104 glasses, Corsair HX1000i, Win 10 pro 64/Win 7 64https://www.3dmark.com/fs/9529310

#29
Posted 06/16/2011 06:09 PM   
Hi, just wanted to share my experiences after a few hour of testing and trial and error...

To make it short: Finally, I was successful to use the Acer H5360 in 3D in 100Hz mode without the annoying red warning message and with both the Nvidia glasses and DLP glasses. Driver Version is 275.33.

However, there were several things to do, until this was achieved in my case:

1) I have to use a VGA cable to connect the projector. (I was able to achieve 100Hz 3D with HDMI aswell, but only with the red warning message).
2) I used a DVI/VGA adapter to be able to connect with my GTX 480 (has no VGA). If you use a high quality VGA cable which is not too long, the quality difference between HDMI and DVI is very small.
3) I removed PIN No. 12 and 15 on the VGA cable. Like that, the system is not able to identify the beamer as the Acer H5360, which is good. Instead, it says "Analog Display" in the Nvidia Control Panel.
4) I had to create a custom resolution 1280x720, 100Hz with "Customize"
5) In the "Set up stereoscopic" section, 100Hz must be selected.
6) 3D 100Hz works after this, but the red warning message "Warning: Attempt to..." is still there
7) To remove this message, I had to make a custom monitor .inf file. You have to use "Power Strip" software for this and do the following afater installing it:

1. Make your custom drivers.
a. open powerstrip and go to options then monitor information
b. then on bottom left select write custom monitor driver
c. Next to max resolution put the maximun resolution that your monior suppports (In case of H5360: 1280x720, 120Hz, 100kHz).
d. Save the file in a place easy to find and name it.

2. Install your custom driver.
a. go to my computer right click
b .go to properties
c. go to devise manager
d. monitors
c. Your monitor might be listed but doubtful. it is more than likely listed as generic non pnp devise
d. right click generic non pnp or your monitor if listed.
e. go to properties
f. click driver tab
g. click update driver
h. browse my computer for software
i. let me pick from a list of devise drivers on my computer
j. click on have disk
k. browse to where ever you stored your custom made driver

l. click ok
m. install driver.

8) Now 3D Vision can be used in 100Hz without the warning message.

With this, 3D Blu Ray Playback is much better. You can use "Reclock" to speed up the 24fps to 25fps together with TotalMedia Theatre 5 (Or PowerDVD), which gives you absolutely smooth Playback! /thumbup.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':thumbup:' />
Hi, just wanted to share my experiences after a few hour of testing and trial and error...



To make it short: Finally, I was successful to use the Acer H5360 in 3D in 100Hz mode without the annoying red warning message and with both the Nvidia glasses and DLP glasses. Driver Version is 275.33.



However, there were several things to do, until this was achieved in my case:



1) I have to use a VGA cable to connect the projector. (I was able to achieve 100Hz 3D with HDMI aswell, but only with the red warning message).

2) I used a DVI/VGA adapter to be able to connect with my GTX 480 (has no VGA). If you use a high quality VGA cable which is not too long, the quality difference between HDMI and DVI is very small.

3) I removed PIN No. 12 and 15 on the VGA cable. Like that, the system is not able to identify the beamer as the Acer H5360, which is good. Instead, it says "Analog Display" in the Nvidia Control Panel.

4) I had to create a custom resolution 1280x720, 100Hz with "Customize"

5) In the "Set up stereoscopic" section, 100Hz must be selected.

6) 3D 100Hz works after this, but the red warning message "Warning: Attempt to..." is still there

7) To remove this message, I had to make a custom monitor .inf file. You have to use "Power Strip" software for this and do the following afater installing it:



1. Make your custom drivers.

a. open powerstrip and go to options then monitor information

b. then on bottom left select write custom monitor driver

c. Next to max resolution put the maximun resolution that your monior suppports (In case of H5360: 1280x720, 120Hz, 100kHz).

d. Save the file in a place easy to find and name it.



2. Install your custom driver.

a. go to my computer right click

b .go to properties

c. go to devise manager

d. monitors

c. Your monitor might be listed but doubtful. it is more than likely listed as generic non pnp devise

d. right click generic non pnp or your monitor if listed.

e. go to properties

f. click driver tab

g. click update driver

h. browse my computer for software

i. let me pick from a list of devise drivers on my computer

j. click on have disk

k. browse to where ever you stored your custom made driver



l. click ok

m. install driver.



8) Now 3D Vision can be used in 100Hz without the warning message.



With this, 3D Blu Ray Playback is much better. You can use "Reclock" to speed up the 24fps to 25fps together with TotalMedia Theatre 5 (Or PowerDVD), which gives you absolutely smooth Playback! /thumbup.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':thumbup:' />

#30
Posted 06/25/2011 01:12 AM   
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