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That’s great news ragedemon. I guess 3D is not as dead as some people think! I just got my delid tool today so when I get the 2080ti I’ll delid my 8700k at the same time as putting the waterbkock on the gfx card and then put it through its paces. I believe overclocking the gpu will be a different method than usual also. The cards are defintely over priced but they are looking like a decent upgrade over last gen even without the raytracing and tensor cores etc. Still no benchmarks on the 2080ti. I have a feeling it’s going to be a monster.......
That’s great news ragedemon.
I guess 3D is not as dead as some people think!

I just got my delid tool today so when I get the 2080ti I’ll delid my 8700k at the same time as putting the waterbkock on the gfx card and then put it through its paces.

I believe overclocking the gpu will be a different method than usual also.

The cards are defintely over priced but they are looking like a decent upgrade over last gen even without the raytracing and tensor cores etc.

Still no benchmarks on the 2080ti. I have a feeling it’s going to be a monster.......

Posted 08/29/2018 05:44 PM   
[quote="RAGEdemon"]I sympathise xXxStarManxXx; behind the PR veil, a lot of companies are like this because their primary goal is $. Intel has a dark past too, as does Microsoft, as well as companies such as Nestle who literally had a hand in countless baby deaths for profit ([url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nestl%C3%A9_boycott[/url]). It's nothing new - we even had (and to some extent still do have) entire countries enslaving other nations for personal gain. As you said: Disgusting. I was actually leading a charge the other day to have AdoredTV unbanned from one of my favourite subreddits... [url]https://www.reddit.com/r/hardware/comments/9affdj/adoredtv_is_banned_please_can_we_discuss/[/url] 650 comments and 21000 views later, democracy proved 55% in favour of lifting the ban - though something tells me the mods will still not lift it...[/quote] WOW. I can't believe AdoredTV was banned, that's probably why I was shadowbanned because the day before I stopped receiving comment replies and looked to see if I was shadowbanned on r/nvidia I was referring to AdoredTV's work left and right.
RAGEdemon said:I sympathise xXxStarManxXx; behind the PR veil, a lot of companies are like this because their primary goal is $. Intel has a dark past too, as does Microsoft, as well as companies such as Nestle who literally had a hand in countless baby deaths for profit (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nestl%C3%A9_boycott). It's nothing new - we even had (and to some extent still do have) entire countries enslaving other nations for personal gain. As you said: Disgusting.

I was actually leading a charge the other day to have AdoredTV unbanned from one of my favourite subreddits...

https://www.reddit.com/r/hardware/comments/9affdj/adoredtv_is_banned_please_can_we_discuss/

650 comments and 21000 views later, democracy proved 55% in favour of lifting the ban - though something tells me the mods will still not lift it...


WOW. I can't believe AdoredTV was banned, that's probably why I was shadowbanned because the day before I stopped receiving comment replies and looked to see if I was shadowbanned on r/nvidia I was referring to AdoredTV's work left and right.

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Posted 08/29/2018 06:04 PM   
[quote="GibsonRed"]That’s great news ragedemon. I guess 3D is not as dead as some people think! I just got my delid tool today so when I get the 2080ti I’ll delid my 8700k at the same time as putting the waterbkock on the gfx card and then put it through its paces. I believe overclocking the gpu will be a different method than usual also. The cards are defintely over priced but they are looking like a decent upgrade over last gen even without the raytracing and tensor cores etc. Still no benchmarks on the 2080ti. I have a feeling it’s going to be a monster....... [/quote] It's going to be 30% faster than the 2080 and the 2080 is 5% faster than the 1080 Ti overclocked to 2GHz with the 1080 Ti at factory clocks of 1850 MHz, meaning, it's faster in title A and slower in title B: https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-3dmark-timespy-score-leaked-clocked-at-2ghz-and-beats-a-gtx-1080-ti-without-ai-cores/ Meaning, youre looking at at 30-35% jump from 1080 Ti to 2080 Ti, best case scenario. I would wait until Nvidia drops the Titan card in 3 months with the full uncut die. Looking at Quadro RTX and 2080 Ti, the 2080 Ti has a cut down die and Nvidia is NOT skipping the Titan card this generation. Don't be surprised when they drop the Titan card in 3 months for $1200 and then reduce the price of non-FE 2080 Ti from $1k to $800-900 just like they reduced the price of GTX 1080 and 1070 by $100 when they released the 1080 Ti. You better believe they have a Titan card ready to go and we have NOT seen the fastest Turing card, not by a longshot. Do we have collective amnesia? We had Titan X, then 1080 Ti, then Titan Xp. They are NOT just releasing 2080 Ti which isn't even using the larger die found on the Quadro RTX. The people that are buying 2080 Ti at $1300 are those for whom deceptive marketing has been effective. If youre getting this card for anything other than half baked ray tracing youre going to be sorely disappointed. Youre NOT looking at a card that is 50-100% faster than 1080 Ti or 2080. I highly recommend getting up to speed with AdoredTV's videos found a page or two back on surviving Nvidia's Turing Marketing. Just look him up on youtube.
GibsonRed said:That’s great news ragedemon.
I guess 3D is not as dead as some people think!

I just got my delid tool today so when I get the 2080ti I’ll delid my 8700k at the same time as putting the waterbkock on the gfx card and then put it through its paces.

I believe overclocking the gpu will be a different method than usual also.

The cards are defintely over priced but they are looking like a decent upgrade over last gen even without the raytracing and tensor cores etc.

Still no benchmarks on the 2080ti. I have a feeling it’s going to be a monster.......


It's going to be 30% faster than the 2080 and the 2080 is 5% faster than the 1080 Ti overclocked to 2GHz with the 1080 Ti at factory clocks of 1850 MHz, meaning, it's faster in title A and slower in title B:

https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-3dmark-timespy-score-leaked-clocked-at-2ghz-and-beats-a-gtx-1080-ti-without-ai-cores/

Meaning, youre looking at at 30-35% jump from 1080 Ti to 2080 Ti, best case scenario.

I would wait until Nvidia drops the Titan card in 3 months with the full uncut die. Looking at Quadro RTX and 2080 Ti, the 2080 Ti has a cut down die and Nvidia is NOT skipping the Titan card this generation. Don't be surprised when they drop the Titan card in 3 months for $1200 and then reduce the price of non-FE 2080 Ti from $1k to $800-900 just like they reduced the price of GTX 1080 and 1070 by $100 when they released the 1080 Ti.

You better believe they have a Titan card ready to go and we have NOT seen the fastest Turing card, not by a longshot.

Do we have collective amnesia?

We had Titan X, then 1080 Ti, then Titan Xp. They are NOT just releasing 2080 Ti which isn't even using the larger die found on the Quadro RTX.

The people that are buying 2080 Ti at $1300 are those for whom deceptive marketing has been effective. If youre getting this card for anything other than half baked ray tracing youre going to be sorely disappointed. Youre NOT looking at a card that is 50-100% faster than 1080 Ti or 2080. I highly recommend getting up to speed with AdoredTV's videos found a page or two back on surviving Nvidia's Turing Marketing. Just look him up on youtube.

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Posted 08/29/2018 06:17 PM   
[quote="xXxStarManxXx"] Guess what happens when you get someone like me who does the opposite, who challenges a carefully cultivated narrative, whether that's NGreedia wanting you to part with money for a half baked feature (Ray Farce) with maybe 25% increase in actual rasterization performance vis a vis the outgoing model, i.e. 2080 vs 1080 and 2080 Ti vs 1080 Ti ? That's right, you have PAID MODERATORS ISSUE SHADOWBANS. ..... We have Nvidia's overhanded NDA which stipulates identifying reviewers and then only supplying those review outlets that will give Nvidia's new product a favorable review at / before launch (The rest can wait until they can buy one, after all of the favorable reviews have been circulated) ...... I mean, it doesn't take a genius to understand what is happening here. That you respond with an accusation that I'm lying or that this is all hyperbole, this is quite insulting from someone who seems to be a long standing 3D Vision enthusiast and who is typically helpful. Use your brain dude. [/quote] This is getting silly now, but I'll bite. I get that you're upset about what happened to you, but it's no reason to insult everyone else. No-one is accusing you of lying and no-one is saying that stuff that this doesn't happen on the internet, i.e. fake news/sponsorship/shadow bans etc. For what it's worth, I agree that your summary of the performance gains are probably about right. What I would say though is, how can you expect anyone to take your comments seriously when you use terms like 'Ngreedia' and 'Ray Farce'. Seriously, does that sound balanced to you?? Also, you show me where the NDA states that they must give favourable reviews? This is getting beyond a joke now, the benchmarks won't lie and are all these online reviewers going to post fake reviews and benchmarks???
xXxStarManxXx said:

Guess what happens when you get someone like me who does the opposite, who challenges a carefully cultivated narrative, whether that's NGreedia wanting you to part with money for a half baked feature (Ray Farce) with maybe 25% increase in actual rasterization performance vis a vis the outgoing model, i.e. 2080 vs 1080 and 2080 Ti vs 1080 Ti ? That's right, you have PAID MODERATORS ISSUE SHADOWBANS.

.....

We have Nvidia's overhanded NDA which stipulates identifying reviewers and then only supplying those review outlets that will give Nvidia's new product a favorable review at / before launch (The rest can wait until they can buy one, after all of the favorable reviews have been circulated)

......

I mean, it doesn't take a genius to understand what is happening here. That you respond with an accusation that I'm lying or that this is all hyperbole, this is quite insulting from someone who seems to be a long standing 3D Vision enthusiast and who is typically helpful.

Use your brain dude.




This is getting silly now, but I'll bite. I get that you're upset about what happened to you, but it's no reason to insult everyone else.

No-one is accusing you of lying and no-one is saying that stuff that this doesn't happen on the internet, i.e. fake news/sponsorship/shadow bans etc.
For what it's worth, I agree that your summary of the performance gains are probably about right.

What I would say though is, how can you expect anyone to take your comments seriously when you use terms like 'Ngreedia' and 'Ray Farce'. Seriously, does that sound balanced to you??

Also, you show me where the NDA states that they must give favourable reviews? This is getting beyond a joke now, the benchmarks won't lie and are all these online reviewers going to post fake reviews and benchmarks???

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Posted 08/29/2018 07:27 PM   
[quote="RAGEdemon"]So guys, great news! 3D Vision seems to be supported by the new RTX cards! :) [url]https://www.geforce.com/hardware/technology/3d-vision/supported-gpus[/url] I've asked our good man Ray@NVidia to kindly elaborate; let's see if he can tell us more... [/quote] Thanks for this, it was my big worry about the new cards! Well, arguments about performance/price ratios to one side :-)
RAGEdemon said:So guys, great news!

3D Vision seems to be supported by the new RTX cards! :)

https://www.geforce.com/hardware/technology/3d-vision/supported-gpus

I've asked our good man Ray@NVidia to kindly elaborate; let's see if he can tell us more...



Thanks for this, it was my big worry about the new cards! Well, arguments about performance/price ratios to one side :-)

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Posted 08/29/2018 07:34 PM   
Been reading up a little bit. Still really amazed by the tech but also the prices Iam still running with a Gtx980 , is it maybe a bit smarter to go for a 1080TI second hand (price/preformance ratio) or should I safe up for this beast. Iam still in a doubt :(
Been reading up a little bit.
Still really amazed by the tech but also the prices
Iam still running with a Gtx980 , is it maybe a bit smarter to go for a 1080TI second hand (price/preformance ratio) or should I safe up for this beast.

Iam still in a doubt :(

Posted 08/29/2018 07:56 PM   
Following up on my recent post here about 2080 Ti performance: "Nvidia Director of Technical Marketing Tom Peterson says 1080 Ti to 2080 Ti 35-45% performance on standard games" That's coming from the director of technical marketing. Think about that. That means that that figure was probably derived at 4K, possibly with HDR + G-Sync, just as we've seen with the carefully curated "2080 vs 1080" 4K+HDR+G-Sync comparison. 35-45% is probably 20-30% at 1080p and 27-35% at 1440p. Again, this isn't a disinterested 3rd party, this is the director of technical marketing. Director of Technical [i]Marketing[/i]. [b][i]Marketing[/i]. [/b] https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/9bdr73/nvidia_director_of_technical_marketing_tom/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_x1JGG4JC8&t [quote="rustyk21"] This is getting silly now, but I'll bite. I get that you're upset about what happened to you, but it's no reason to insult everyone else. No-one is accusing you of lying and no-one is saying that stuff that this doesn't happen on the internet, i.e. fake news/sponsorship/shadow bans etc. For what it's worth, I agree that your summary of the performance gains are probably about right. What I would say though is, how can you expect anyone to take your comments seriously when you use terms like 'Ngreedia' and 'Ray Farce'. Seriously, does that sound balanced to you?? Also, you show me where the NDA states that they must give favourable reviews? This is getting beyond a joke now, the benchmarks won't lie and are all these online reviewers going to post fake reviews and benchmarks???[/quote] ...[i]First and foremost, NVIDIA has demanded that its AIBs tell NVIDIA who will be reviewing the AIB's custom RTX 2080 and 2080 Ti cards. We were forwarded emails from other reviewers, from the AIBs that were asking specifically, at NVIDIA's direction, "Who will be performing the review content?" "What is that person's phone number and email address?" That is a bit odd, as we have never seen this before in 20 years of reviewing video cards. AIBs in the past have been left to pretty much operate their own review campaigns on new video cards, but that seems to have come to an end. From these lists of reviewers submitted to NVIDIA by the AIBs, NVIDIA has put together its own list of "approved reviewers," and sent their approved list back to the AIBs in order to let them know who they are allowed to sample review cards to. Much like NVIDIA exerted control over AIB's and OEM's brands with GPP, it is now exerting control over who the AIB has review its own custom cards.[/i]... https://www.hardocp.com/article/2018/08/28/nvidia_controls_aib_launch_driver_distribution/
Following up on my recent post here about 2080 Ti performance:


"Nvidia Director of Technical Marketing Tom Peterson says 1080 Ti to 2080 Ti 35-45% performance on standard games"

That's coming from the director of technical marketing. Think about that. That means that that figure was probably derived at 4K, possibly with HDR + G-Sync, just as we've seen with the carefully curated "2080 vs 1080" 4K+HDR+G-Sync comparison.

35-45% is probably 20-30% at 1080p and 27-35% at 1440p.

Again, this isn't a disinterested 3rd party, this is the director of technical marketing.

Director of Technical Marketing.

Marketing.


https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/9bdr73/nvidia_director_of_technical_marketing_tom/


;t


rustyk21 said:

This is getting silly now, but I'll bite. I get that you're upset about what happened to you, but it's no reason to insult everyone else.

No-one is accusing you of lying and no-one is saying that stuff that this doesn't happen on the internet, i.e. fake news/sponsorship/shadow bans etc.
For what it's worth, I agree that your summary of the performance gains are probably about right.

What I would say though is, how can you expect anyone to take your comments seriously when you use terms like 'Ngreedia' and 'Ray Farce'. Seriously, does that sound balanced to you??

Also, you show me where the NDA states that they must give favourable reviews? This is getting beyond a joke now, the benchmarks won't lie and are all these online reviewers going to post fake reviews and benchmarks???



...First and foremost, NVIDIA has demanded that its AIBs tell NVIDIA who will be reviewing the AIB's custom RTX 2080 and 2080 Ti cards. We were forwarded emails from other reviewers, from the AIBs that were asking specifically, at NVIDIA's direction, "Who will be performing the review content?" "What is that person's phone number and email address?" That is a bit odd, as we have never seen this before in 20 years of reviewing video cards. AIBs in the past have been left to pretty much operate their own review campaigns on new video cards, but that seems to have come to an end. From these lists of reviewers submitted to NVIDIA by the AIBs, NVIDIA has put together its own list of "approved reviewers," and sent their approved list back to the AIBs in order to let them know who they are allowed to sample review cards to. Much like NVIDIA exerted control over AIB's and OEM's brands with GPP, it is now exerting control over who the AIB has review its own custom cards....


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Posted 08/29/2018 10:35 PM   
So you didn't answer any of my points, you just posted more anti-nvidia rhetoric. It seems pretty clear you have an agenda or a chip on your shoulder about something. It's a shame because your numbers are useful and it would be nice to have more people in a balanced debate, but it just doesn't look like you're that person. I always like to keep an open mind but I noticed that you've posted similar comments on the other feedback forum here : https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/1069015/send-us-your-feedback-top-questions-around-geforce-rtx-2080-ti-2080-2070/?offset=6#5860852. [quote="xXxStarManxXx"] "Do you think we are stupid? $1300 for your renamed Titan card, a nice big fat middle finger to all of us without money pouring out of our ears (read, everyone but the .1% and their spoiled children) who wait 6-9 months after the architecture refresh for Titan-esque performance for a FAIR PRICE, i.e. $700-800. Are you on crack?" [/quote] Seriously dude, does that sound like balanced feedback to you? I don't know what you're so angry about. Consumers don't get to set the price they want to pay for things in the real word. Plus, talking about 0.1% and spoiled children is pretty insulting to people that work hard for their money and choose to spend on it on this hobby rather than something else.
So you didn't answer any of my points, you just posted more anti-nvidia rhetoric.

It seems pretty clear you have an agenda or a chip on your shoulder about something. It's a shame because your numbers are useful and it would be nice to have more people in a balanced debate, but it just doesn't look like you're that person.

I always like to keep an open mind but I noticed that you've posted similar comments on the other feedback forum here :
https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/1069015/send-us-your-feedback-top-questions-around-geforce-rtx-2080-ti-2080-2070/?offset=6#5860852.

xXxStarManxXx said:
"Do you think we are stupid?

$1300 for your renamed Titan card, a nice big fat middle finger to all of us without money pouring out of our ears (read, everyone but the .1% and their spoiled children) who wait 6-9 months after the architecture refresh for Titan-esque performance for a FAIR PRICE, i.e. $700-800.

Are you on crack?"


Seriously dude, does that sound like balanced feedback to you? I don't know what you're so angry about. Consumers don't get to set the price they want to pay for things in the real word. Plus, talking about 0.1% and spoiled children is pretty insulting to people that work hard for their money and choose to spend on it on this hobby rather than something else.

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Posted 08/30/2018 08:08 AM   
So many spoilt brats on here. Mad because they can’t afford/justify the new cards price. It’s cringeworthy TBH. Seeing how I am gaming at 4K HDR (and with Gsync) and seeing how the 1080ti is almost 100% faster than my 980ti at 4K gaming, the 2080ti should give me at least 130% better performance than I have now. Add onto that the Dedicated cores for AA and ray tracing and it’s works out as a massive upgrade for me. If your not happy with the price, don’t buy it, just don’t go thinking you can stop everybody else buying one to make youself feel better or whatever your angle is!
So many spoilt brats on here.
Mad because they can’t afford/justify the new cards price.
It’s cringeworthy TBH.

Seeing how I am gaming at 4K HDR (and with Gsync) and seeing how the 1080ti is almost 100% faster than my 980ti at 4K gaming, the 2080ti should give me at least 130% better performance than I have now.

Add onto that the Dedicated cores for AA and ray tracing and it’s works out as a massive upgrade for me.

If your not happy with the price, don’t buy it, just don’t go thinking you can stop everybody else buying one to make youself feel better or whatever your angle is!

Posted 08/30/2018 08:32 AM   
Economy question to hear people's opinions here: do you think hardware prices should be proportionally lowered by country according to median income? How much less money would Nvidia/AMD/Intel get? Could they be afraid of people importing from cheaper countries? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Median_income The European price (VAT doesn't help) of the 2080Ti is approximately 1.25 times what I earn a month. For someone living in Norway (according to Wikipedia), it's peanuts, but for someone in Romania, the price is ludicrous. Videogames are regionally priced for some countries, so why not hardware? I guess it's about the cost of materials and distribution. It isn't the same as a digital game. In my case, I can afford the 2080Ti because I live with my parents (my only expenses are gasoline, manga/anime, videogames and PC hardware), but it still seems unfair compared to the previous generation (I was willing to pay 900-950 euros) so I'll wait for benchmarks, especially from Guru3D.
Economy question to hear people's opinions here: do you think hardware prices should be proportionally lowered by country according to median income? How much less money would Nvidia/AMD/Intel get? Could they be afraid of people importing from cheaper countries? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Median_income

The European price (VAT doesn't help) of the 2080Ti is approximately 1.25 times what I earn a month. For someone living in Norway (according to Wikipedia), it's peanuts, but for someone in Romania, the price is ludicrous.

Videogames are regionally priced for some countries, so why not hardware? I guess it's about the cost of materials and distribution. It isn't the same as a digital game.

In my case, I can afford the 2080Ti because I live with my parents (my only expenses are gasoline, manga/anime, videogames and PC hardware), but it still seems unfair compared to the previous generation (I was willing to pay 900-950 euros) so I'll wait for benchmarks, especially from Guru3D.

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Posted 08/30/2018 09:16 AM   
[quote="GibsonRed"]So many spoilt brats on here. Mad because they can’t afford/justify the new cards price. It’s cringeworthy TBH. Seeing how I am gaming at 4K HDR (and with Gsync) and seeing how the 1080ti is almost 100% faster than my 980ti at 4K gaming, the 2080ti should give me at least 130% better performance than I have now. Add onto that the Dedicated cores for AA and ray tracing and it’s works out as a massive upgrade for me. If your not happy with the price, don’t buy it, just don’t go thinking you can stop everybody else buying one to make youself feel better or whatever your angle is! [/quote] As long as they sell its ok to bump up the Price. I don’t know justifying the Price is like shooting your self on the leg
GibsonRed said:So many spoilt brats on here.
Mad because they can’t afford/justify the new cards price.
It’s cringeworthy TBH.

Seeing how I am gaming at 4K HDR (and with Gsync) and seeing how the 1080ti is almost 100% faster than my 980ti at 4K gaming, the 2080ti should give me at least 130% better performance than I have now.

Add onto that the Dedicated cores for AA and ray tracing and it’s works out as a massive upgrade for me.

If your not happy with the price, don’t buy it, just don’t go thinking you can stop everybody else buying one to make youself feel better or whatever your angle is!




As long as they sell its ok to bump up the Price.
I don’t know justifying the Price is like shooting your self on the leg

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Posted 08/30/2018 01:25 PM   
The price is almost double on Ti models so the performance should be double oh wait we have no idea. Updating from a 980Ti to 1080Ti wasn't double the price EVGA 980ti $679.99 Aorus 1080ti $699.00 $20 difference Again I will wait for benchmarks and then decide. No more blind purchases
The price is almost double on Ti models so the performance should be double oh wait we have no idea.
Updating from a 980Ti to 1080Ti wasn't double the price

EVGA 980ti $679.99
Aorus 1080ti $699.00

$20 difference


Again I will wait for benchmarks and then decide. No more blind purchases

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Posted 08/30/2018 01:42 PM   
They prices are insane and I hope nvidia sell hardly any so they lower their prices. Maybe when intel make dedicated GPUs or if AMD sell their gfx division to Apple or Samsung then we might have some competition in the market again. Ray tracing is the holy grail of computer gfx and seeing that Turing can run the star wars ray tracing demo faster than 4 titan Volta’s, I think it’s safe to say turing is a performer alright. Battlefield has just been delayed to November pffffffffffffff Problem is when the first customers receive their cards they aren’t going to be able to do any ray tracing until the windows update in November anyway! Maybe the starwars demo but that’ll be about it. The deep learning upscaling shizzle jenson was talking about. I watch a bit of the keynote again and they said they could upscale 1440p to 2160p without any noticeable loss. This I find hard to believe but maybe they are taking a leaf out of the Xbox/PlayStation upscaling tech that does work pretty well.
They prices are insane and I hope nvidia sell hardly any so they lower their prices.

Maybe when intel make dedicated GPUs or if AMD sell their gfx division to Apple or Samsung then we might have some competition in the market again.

Ray tracing is the holy grail of computer gfx and seeing that Turing can run the star wars ray tracing demo faster than 4 titan Volta’s, I think it’s safe to say turing is a performer alright.

Battlefield has just been delayed to November pffffffffffffff

Problem is when the first customers receive their cards they aren’t going to be able to do any ray tracing until the windows update in November anyway! Maybe the starwars demo but that’ll be about it.

The deep learning upscaling shizzle jenson was talking about. I watch a bit of the keynote again and they said they could upscale 1440p to 2160p without any noticeable loss.
This I find hard to believe but maybe they are taking a leaf out of the Xbox/PlayStation upscaling tech that does work pretty well.

Posted 08/30/2018 05:55 PM   
Leaving aside the politics - so at 1080p 3d vision gaming what is going to be the best value card ? 10 series or 20 series ? Will ray tracing work in 3d or cause more problems than its worth given the high frame rate needed for good 3d ? My problem is most of my time is spent playing ETS2 and with a game engine based on dx9 it seems impossible to get a high frame rate with ANY hardware at the moment due to the game engine ! As for ray tracing - I doubt the simulator games I play will be getting it any time soon.
Leaving aside the politics - so at 1080p 3d vision gaming what is going to be the best value card ? 10 series or 20 series ? Will ray tracing work in 3d or cause more problems than its worth given the high frame rate needed for good 3d ?

My problem is most of my time is spent playing ETS2 and with a game engine based on dx9 it seems impossible to get a high frame rate with ANY hardware at the moment due to the game engine ! As for ray tracing - I doubt the simulator games I play will be getting it any time soon.

Posted 08/30/2018 06:58 PM   
i bet most of people turn raytracing off anyways because of poor performance. and to be exact it´s just raytracing in some elements of the game. Someone said that we have become too good on mimicin things using highly costly raytracing for some degree of added visual quality is just not worth it for most. and i don´t know about you but watching the nvidia demos quite often i noticed the RTX turn on but somehow missed it turn OFF. if the normal performance isn´t that good it´s propably wiser just to stay on some price raped pascal cards, or wait for the new Titan that comes before the end of the year for shure
i bet most of people turn raytracing off anyways because of poor performance. and to be exact it´s just raytracing in some elements of the game.
Someone said that we have become too good on mimicin things using highly costly raytracing for some degree of added visual quality is just not worth it for most. and i don´t know about you but watching the nvidia demos
quite often i noticed the RTX turn on but somehow missed it turn OFF.

if the normal performance isn´t that good it´s propably wiser just to stay on some price raped pascal cards,
or wait for the new Titan that comes before the end of the year for shure

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Posted 08/30/2018 08:44 PM   
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