New Bad Company 2 Patch
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After spending most of the morning trying to get this to work. Still a few bugs like the fact the game won't allow me to quit, i have to alt-ctrl-dlt to force the game to close now. I also now have to click the "play button" multi times befor anything will start. I was also getting a EC:571 error??????? verifyed game files and had to download something to move beyond that point (steam acct.). My screen would flash to white and freeze if i changed the resolution, which i had to do several times as the game would start normal but would change to windowed mode and then my buttons would not line up with my curser causing me not to be able to click some options. I also had a few crashes and had to restart steam several times during the update because it would stop responding. Everything works fine now.............looks wise better than befor...........much better than befor but i have only just started the game again (lost all my game saves) and there is alot of game left that may not work as well as the opening level.

Just a sidenote; just checked my settings and DX 9 + 3d seems (my settings force dx9 [mp in 2d]) to work with all distructable objects which is nice for my aging rig.
Lets hope the rest of the game works as well as the first level. I have to say at this point one very nice game in 3d.

Ps. I also installed the 1.21 drivers just befor the steam update feassco-may have contrubuted to the problem (dont know this forshur but im going to assume because........well, their track record)
After spending most of the morning trying to get this to work. Still a few bugs like the fact the game won't allow me to quit, i have to alt-ctrl-dlt to force the game to close now. I also now have to click the "play button" multi times befor anything will start. I was also getting a EC:571 error??????? verifyed game files and had to download something to move beyond that point (steam acct.). My screen would flash to white and freeze if i changed the resolution, which i had to do several times as the game would start normal but would change to windowed mode and then my buttons would not line up with my curser causing me not to be able to click some options. I also had a few crashes and had to restart steam several times during the update because it would stop responding. Everything works fine now.............looks wise better than befor...........much better than befor but i have only just started the game again (lost all my game saves) and there is alot of game left that may not work as well as the opening level.



Just a sidenote; just checked my settings and DX 9 + 3d seems (my settings force dx9 [mp in 2d]) to work with all distructable objects which is nice for my aging rig.

Lets hope the rest of the game works as well as the first level. I have to say at this point one very nice game in 3d.



Ps. I also installed the 1.21 drivers just befor the steam update feassco-may have contrubuted to the problem (dont know this forshur but im going to assume because........well, their track record)
#16
Posted 03/18/2010 10:17 PM   
I had not been using 3dvision with battlefield previously because when I turned it on the framerate would drop significantly (much more than in half). GTX260 corei7

So when the new driver came out I installed and turned on 3dvision and everything worked flawlessly, the framerate was solid and the game look phenomenal! I played for a few hours and went to bed.

The next day I jump into the game again and turn on 3dvision and much to my dismay I'm getting a <15 frames a second down from >40! I toggled 3dvision several times (ctrl t) and the framerate dropped even further to around 3 fps!

Sadly battlefield bad company 2 is still unplayable with 3dvision for me.
I had not been using 3dvision with battlefield previously because when I turned it on the framerate would drop significantly (much more than in half). GTX260 corei7



So when the new driver came out I installed and turned on 3dvision and everything worked flawlessly, the framerate was solid and the game look phenomenal! I played for a few hours and went to bed.



The next day I jump into the game again and turn on 3dvision and much to my dismay I'm getting a <15 frames a second down from >40! I toggled 3dvision several times (ctrl t) and the framerate dropped even further to around 3 fps!



Sadly battlefield bad company 2 is still unplayable with 3dvision for me.

#17
Posted 03/19/2010 06:02 PM   
I still think that this game (and other new games) is playable in 3D only for 0,5% of Nvidia users because the hardware requeriments. Seem to be the neverending hoping... Nvidia must do solid support for old recent games (the really games that most of us can play with a decent framerate), do not stop support for games that yesterday were supported (doom3, oblivion, tombraider, etc, etc), and create support for old very good games that always were forgotten. Usually new drivers add support for some new games, but also kill the support to others supported previously (I don´t know why).

I asume this technology more like a retro tecnology that gives us the possiblity to play past games with more inmersion and better feeling. Framerate is really the esential thing playing a game, and this tecnology eat a lot requeriments, so it is impossible to be really a solution for most gamers (of course always there are a minority group of people who can). Seem to be the perfetc reason to buy a more expensive hardware, it is never enough... always the same.

I´m thinking the possiblity to buy a very good ATI videocard and forget 3D... surelly I will enjoy better once I forget stereo, and I won´t have to wait a driver + game patch to see a game runing at 15 frames per second on my "high end" computer.

PD: I have just play PES 2010 (only in 2D, of course shadows are not supported in 3D) with new driver and it is impossible to play smooth (checking or not vsync), it is an incredible choppy animation like DivineDivinity2 Ego Draconis... now is umplayable. Of course I hope to see it fixed in the next driver. Please Nvidia, chech support for "old" games and not center only in the new releases destroying previous supports, it has no sense.
I still think that this game (and other new games) is playable in 3D only for 0,5% of Nvidia users because the hardware requeriments. Seem to be the neverending hoping... Nvidia must do solid support for old recent games (the really games that most of us can play with a decent framerate), do not stop support for games that yesterday were supported (doom3, oblivion, tombraider, etc, etc), and create support for old very good games that always were forgotten. Usually new drivers add support for some new games, but also kill the support to others supported previously (I don´t know why).



I asume this technology more like a retro tecnology that gives us the possiblity to play past games with more inmersion and better feeling. Framerate is really the esential thing playing a game, and this tecnology eat a lot requeriments, so it is impossible to be really a solution for most gamers (of course always there are a minority group of people who can). Seem to be the perfetc reason to buy a more expensive hardware, it is never enough... always the same.



I´m thinking the possiblity to buy a very good ATI videocard and forget 3D... surelly I will enjoy better once I forget stereo, and I won´t have to wait a driver + game patch to see a game runing at 15 frames per second on my "high end" computer.



PD: I have just play PES 2010 (only in 2D, of course shadows are not supported in 3D) with new driver and it is impossible to play smooth (checking or not vsync), it is an incredible choppy animation like DivineDivinity2 Ego Draconis... now is umplayable. Of course I hope to see it fixed in the next driver. Please Nvidia, chech support for "old" games and not center only in the new releases destroying previous supports, it has no sense.

- Windows 7 64bits (SSD OCZ-Vertez2 128Gb)
- "ASUS P6X58D-E" motherboard
- "MSI GTX 660 TI"
- "Intel Xeon X5670" @4000MHz CPU (20.0[12-25]x200MHz)
- RAM 16 Gb DDR3 1600
- "Dell S2716DG" monitor (2560x1440 @144Hz)
- "Corsair Carbide 600C" case
- Labrador dog (cinnamon edition)

#18
Posted 03/19/2010 06:33 PM   
The 3D markers over objectives and friendlies is messed up with the latest BC2 game patch, and it doesn't appear to have anything to do with the Nvidia drivers. I thought it was because of 197.13, but I reverted back to 196.75 and 196.38 and they both still have the problem and they used to not. Even if you hit CTRL-T to disable 3d in game, the markers are still messed up. If you exit out of the game completely and disable 3d vision from the Nvidia control panel, then the markers are correct. This really stinks, because now the game is totally unplayable in 3d. Anyone else see this after reverting to an earlier driver? I wonder if there's a way to undo the BC2 game patch. It is nice that it fixes the mini-map, but the markers are a much bigger problem.
The 3D markers over objectives and friendlies is messed up with the latest BC2 game patch, and it doesn't appear to have anything to do with the Nvidia drivers. I thought it was because of 197.13, but I reverted back to 196.75 and 196.38 and they both still have the problem and they used to not. Even if you hit CTRL-T to disable 3d in game, the markers are still messed up. If you exit out of the game completely and disable 3d vision from the Nvidia control panel, then the markers are correct. This really stinks, because now the game is totally unplayable in 3d. Anyone else see this after reverting to an earlier driver? I wonder if there's a way to undo the BC2 game patch. It is nice that it fixes the mini-map, but the markers are a much bigger problem.

#19
Posted 03/19/2010 08:11 PM   
[quote name='b4thman' post='1022913' date='Mar 19 2010, 12:33 PM']I still think that this game (and other new games) is playable in 3D only for 0,5% of Nvidia users because the hardware requeriments.[/quote]

I don't think this is a hardware issue necessarily. I understand that rendering each frame twice to make the game 3d will cut your framerate in half. In most games this is evident by turning on a fps display. This is generally not a big deal as my gtx260 seems hardcore enough to run most games I play quite well even at half the framerate. But in Battlefield my framerate gets cut by a lot more than half -EXCEPT- for the first time I ran the game after updating the driver! Toggling 3d on and off exacerbates the issue, unlike every other game I've played. This leads me to believe that this is a driver issue.
[quote name='b4thman' post='1022913' date='Mar 19 2010, 12:33 PM']I still think that this game (and other new games) is playable in 3D only for 0,5% of Nvidia users because the hardware requeriments.



I don't think this is a hardware issue necessarily. I understand that rendering each frame twice to make the game 3d will cut your framerate in half. In most games this is evident by turning on a fps display. This is generally not a big deal as my gtx260 seems hardcore enough to run most games I play quite well even at half the framerate. But in Battlefield my framerate gets cut by a lot more than half -EXCEPT- for the first time I ran the game after updating the driver! Toggling 3d on and off exacerbates the issue, unlike every other game I've played. This leads me to believe that this is a driver issue.

#20
Posted 03/19/2010 11:01 PM   
GTX260 is a powerfull videocard, it is my videocard too. Bad company 2 is an example, but I can´t play decently a lot of games in 3D, because not supported, becasue I have to disable a lot of important things (shadows, lightnings, etc), because a lot of ghosting, and because framerate drop. In most times I have the impresion that I´m testing this hardware than playing. When a game is well supported and I can play it with enought frames/second (I think that stable 25 or 30 is the minimun) it is very nice and great, but it happends only with a few games, and sometimes I lost one of these few games when a new driver arrived with the focus in the support for a new game that is impossible to be played because is impossible to have enough framerate for me and for most people. I´m sure it is not the reason, but sometimes seem to be a strategy to force us to buy a new videocard to continue in the ship. I don´t understand why supported games in the past are lost with new drivers.
GTX260 is a powerfull videocard, it is my videocard too. Bad company 2 is an example, but I can´t play decently a lot of games in 3D, because not supported, becasue I have to disable a lot of important things (shadows, lightnings, etc), because a lot of ghosting, and because framerate drop. In most times I have the impresion that I´m testing this hardware than playing. When a game is well supported and I can play it with enought frames/second (I think that stable 25 or 30 is the minimun) it is very nice and great, but it happends only with a few games, and sometimes I lost one of these few games when a new driver arrived with the focus in the support for a new game that is impossible to be played because is impossible to have enough framerate for me and for most people. I´m sure it is not the reason, but sometimes seem to be a strategy to force us to buy a new videocard to continue in the ship. I don´t understand why supported games in the past are lost with new drivers.

- Windows 7 64bits (SSD OCZ-Vertez2 128Gb)
- "ASUS P6X58D-E" motherboard
- "MSI GTX 660 TI"
- "Intel Xeon X5670" @4000MHz CPU (20.0[12-25]x200MHz)
- RAM 16 Gb DDR3 1600
- "Dell S2716DG" monitor (2560x1440 @144Hz)
- "Corsair Carbide 600C" case
- Labrador dog (cinnamon edition)

#21
Posted 03/20/2010 09:37 AM   
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