3D-Noob buying monitor for games Aiming for $500 - $800
Hi, I'm new to 3d. I have a single GTX 570 and an i7-2600k @ 5Ghz, 8gb of ram, bluray, etc...
I want to buy a 3d monitor and am a bit lost. Most of the time I will be using it for games on my PC, I want the best possible experience in terms of visual quality for 2d and 3d PC games (I don't play consoles so that is not a consideration) I would like to watch 3d movies, tv, etc, but that is a distant 2nd to games.
Goal is around $500 but there is always room for improvement if it's worth it. Say $800 cap, but only for significant improvement as far as image quality or the quality of the monitor itself. ie. I won't be trying to RMA it 6 mo from now.
Size is not super important to me, lol. I have a 22" Samsung now and from what I've been looking at in my price range it's gonna be a 23" or 27".
Do I need/want hdmi 1.4?
What features should I look for? Is there anything important I need to know?
What is crosstalk?
Are the monitors that come with 3d-Vision kits bundled any good? Are there better glasses/kits than the standard nVidia one? Is there more than one type of kit from nVidia?
Hi, I'm new to 3d. I have a single GTX 570 and an i7-2600k @ 5Ghz, 8gb of ram, bluray, etc...
I want to buy a 3d monitor and am a bit lost. Most of the time I will be using it for games on my PC, I want the best possible experience in terms of visual quality for 2d and 3d PC games (I don't play consoles so that is not a consideration) I would like to watch 3d movies, tv, etc, but that is a distant 2nd to games.
Goal is around $500 but there is always room for improvement if it's worth it. Say $800 cap, but only for significant improvement as far as image quality or the quality of the monitor itself. ie. I won't be trying to RMA it 6 mo from now.
Size is not super important to me, lol. I have a 22" Samsung now and from what I've been looking at in my price range it's gonna be a 23" or 27".
Do I need/want hdmi 1.4?
What features should I look for? Is there anything important I need to know?
What is crosstalk?
Are the monitors that come with 3d-Vision kits bundled any good? Are there better glasses/kits than the standard nVidia one? Is there more than one type of kit from nVidia?
Wow, ok... 60 views and not one reply :( Is my post too long or do you guys not like me? lol...
After reading and posting on other forums I'm now considering getting a projector instead of an LCD but and still leaning toward LCD. I'm concerned with the image quality of a projector as well as the practicality of playing PC games on it.
I've narrowed it down to one LCD and one projector, any thoughts on either of these? How about thoughts on which way to go?
Wow, ok... 60 views and not one reply :( Is my post too long or do you guys not like me? lol...
After reading and posting on other forums I'm now considering getting a projector instead of an LCD but and still leaning toward LCD. I'm concerned with the image quality of a projector as well as the practicality of playing PC games on it.
I've narrowed it down to one LCD and one projector, any thoughts on either of these? How about thoughts on which way to go?
Not sure if I can help you with my limited knowledge but I will try.
I only have a LCD monitor, and its one of the cheapest (Samsung 2233RZ), so I cant realy tell you much about projectors. As far as I can tell projectors give less 'crosstalk/ghosting' and are of course a lot bigger but are limited to 720p in 3D and are less easy to use for web browsing/desktop stuff.
As for what crosstalk is, its also known as 'ghosting' and is the leaking of part of the image for the left eye into the right eye and vice versa. Here is a rather severe example: http://3dvision-blog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/acer-gd245hq-overdrive-off-with-glasses.jpg
As you can see some of the left eyes image is visible in the right eye due to the monitor taking too long to 'switch' the left image to the right one. LCD monitors are well known for ghosting due to thier slow response time and this is why 3D went off the radar for some time. Most people started buying LCD flatscreens and they were just too slow to support the 120hz that 3D requires. Recently though monitor technology has caught up a bit and now LCD monitors are fast enough to allow 120hz for 3D. However its not quite there yet and you will experience some level of ghosting dependant on which monitor you go for (generally the newer, more expensive, monitors have less ghosting).
Apparently the Acer HN274H is one of the best monitors at the moment but I am no expert on that, I belive there are other forum threads on this subject.
As for my experience with the Samsung 2233RZ I find it to be great for the price. I hear some people have alot of ghosting with it but for me its been fine from day 1. There is some very minor ghosting in high contrast areas but its hardly noticeable, although I do run it at 100hz as 120hz has too much ghosting for me.
HDMI 1.4 is the reason 3D projectors/TV's cant do 3D in 1080p I belive. It has too low bandwidth so they are limited to 720P to keep up the 120hz refresh rate. Monitors overcome this by using 'Dual Link DVI' (I have no idea why no-one has made a projector/TV with DL-DVI yet, seems like an obvious addition).
As for 2D performance I find the Samsung to be fine, I think the specs needed for a monitor to perform well in 3D (low response time, high contrast ratio etc) make them great in 2D pretty much by default. My Sammy came as part of a 3D vision bundle and like I said I am more than happy with it so bundles can be a good way to save money but I havent seen what other monitors come with glasses bundled so I wouldnt know about them.
Overall though I suggest you find a monitor you like the look of and read as many reviews as you can. Its an expensive purchase so you wont regret doing some reading first. If you dont like the sound of the reviews then go back to stage one and find a different monitor you like. Or, if you dont mind the resolution loss down to 720p do the same for a projector.
Hope you find something suitable for you as the world of 3D gaming realy is a magical place once you get into it :)
Not sure if I can help you with my limited knowledge but I will try.
I only have a LCD monitor, and its one of the cheapest (Samsung 2233RZ), so I cant realy tell you much about projectors. As far as I can tell projectors give less 'crosstalk/ghosting' and are of course a lot bigger but are limited to 720p in 3D and are less easy to use for web browsing/desktop stuff.
As for what crosstalk is, its also known as 'ghosting' and is the leaking of part of the image for the left eye into the right eye and vice versa. Here is a rather severe example: http://3dvision-blog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/acer-gd245hq-overdrive-off-with-glasses.jpg
As you can see some of the left eyes image is visible in the right eye due to the monitor taking too long to 'switch' the left image to the right one. LCD monitors are well known for ghosting due to thier slow response time and this is why 3D went off the radar for some time. Most people started buying LCD flatscreens and they were just too slow to support the 120hz that 3D requires. Recently though monitor technology has caught up a bit and now LCD monitors are fast enough to allow 120hz for 3D. However its not quite there yet and you will experience some level of ghosting dependant on which monitor you go for (generally the newer, more expensive, monitors have less ghosting).
Apparently the Acer HN274H is one of the best monitors at the moment but I am no expert on that, I belive there are other forum threads on this subject.
As for my experience with the Samsung 2233RZ I find it to be great for the price. I hear some people have alot of ghosting with it but for me its been fine from day 1. There is some very minor ghosting in high contrast areas but its hardly noticeable, although I do run it at 100hz as 120hz has too much ghosting for me.
HDMI 1.4 is the reason 3D projectors/TV's cant do 3D in 1080p I belive. It has too low bandwidth so they are limited to 720P to keep up the 120hz refresh rate. Monitors overcome this by using 'Dual Link DVI' (I have no idea why no-one has made a projector/TV with DL-DVI yet, seems like an obvious addition).
As for 2D performance I find the Samsung to be fine, I think the specs needed for a monitor to perform well in 3D (low response time, high contrast ratio etc) make them great in 2D pretty much by default. My Sammy came as part of a 3D vision bundle and like I said I am more than happy with it so bundles can be a good way to save money but I havent seen what other monitors come with glasses bundled so I wouldnt know about them.
Overall though I suggest you find a monitor you like the look of and read as many reviews as you can. Its an expensive purchase so you wont regret doing some reading first. If you dont like the sound of the reviews then go back to stage one and find a different monitor you like. Or, if you dont mind the resolution loss down to 720p do the same for a projector.
Hope you find something suitable for you as the world of 3D gaming realy is a magical place once you get into it :)
I want to buy a 3d monitor and am a bit lost. Most of the time I will be using it for games on my PC, I want the best possible experience in terms of visual quality for 2d and 3d PC games (I don't play consoles so that is not a consideration) I would like to watch 3d movies, tv, etc, but that is a distant 2nd to games.
Goal is around $500 but there is always room for improvement if it's worth it. Say $800 cap, but only for significant improvement as far as image quality or the quality of the monitor itself. ie. I won't be trying to RMA it 6 mo from now.
Size is not super important to me, lol. I have a 22" Samsung now and from what I've been looking at in my price range it's gonna be a 23" or 27".
Do I need/want hdmi 1.4?
What features should I look for? Is there anything important I need to know?
What is crosstalk?
Are the monitors that come with 3d-Vision kits bundled any good? Are there better glasses/kits than the standard nVidia one? Is there more than one type of kit from nVidia?
Specific recommendations? links plz!! :)
Thanks in advance!!
I want to buy a 3d monitor and am a bit lost. Most of the time I will be using it for games on my PC, I want the best possible experience in terms of visual quality for 2d and 3d PC games (I don't play consoles so that is not a consideration) I would like to watch 3d movies, tv, etc, but that is a distant 2nd to games.
Goal is around $500 but there is always room for improvement if it's worth it. Say $800 cap, but only for significant improvement as far as image quality or the quality of the monitor itself. ie. I won't be trying to RMA it 6 mo from now.
Size is not super important to me, lol. I have a 22" Samsung now and from what I've been looking at in my price range it's gonna be a 23" or 27".
Do I need/want hdmi 1.4?
What features should I look for? Is there anything important I need to know?
What is crosstalk?
Are the monitors that come with 3d-Vision kits bundled any good? Are there better glasses/kits than the standard nVidia one? Is there more than one type of kit from nVidia?
Specific recommendations? links plz!! :)
Thanks in advance!!
After reading and posting on other forums I'm now considering getting a projector instead of an LCD but and still leaning toward LCD. I'm concerned with the image quality of a projector as well as the practicality of playing PC games on it.
I've narrowed it down to one LCD and one projector, any thoughts on either of these? How about thoughts on which way to go?
LCD: [url="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009300"]Acer HN274H[/url]
Projector: [url="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009223&Tpk=Acer%20H5360"]ACER H5360[/url]
I understand the projector will be better in terms of 3d but how much visual/image quality will I have to sacrifice?
After reading and posting on other forums I'm now considering getting a projector instead of an LCD but and still leaning toward LCD. I'm concerned with the image quality of a projector as well as the practicality of playing PC games on it.
I've narrowed it down to one LCD and one projector, any thoughts on either of these? How about thoughts on which way to go?
LCD: Acer HN274H
Projector: ACER H5360
I understand the projector will be better in terms of 3d but how much visual/image quality will I have to sacrifice?
I only have a LCD monitor, and its one of the cheapest (Samsung 2233RZ), so I cant realy tell you much about projectors. As far as I can tell projectors give less 'crosstalk/ghosting' and are of course a lot bigger but are limited to 720p in 3D and are less easy to use for web browsing/desktop stuff.
As for what crosstalk is, its also known as 'ghosting' and is the leaking of part of the image for the left eye into the right eye and vice versa. Here is a rather severe example: http://3dvision-blog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/acer-gd245hq-overdrive-off-with-glasses.jpg
As you can see some of the left eyes image is visible in the right eye due to the monitor taking too long to 'switch' the left image to the right one. LCD monitors are well known for ghosting due to thier slow response time and this is why 3D went off the radar for some time. Most people started buying LCD flatscreens and they were just too slow to support the 120hz that 3D requires. Recently though monitor technology has caught up a bit and now LCD monitors are fast enough to allow 120hz for 3D. However its not quite there yet and you will experience some level of ghosting dependant on which monitor you go for (generally the newer, more expensive, monitors have less ghosting).
Apparently the Acer HN274H is one of the best monitors at the moment but I am no expert on that, I belive there are other forum threads on this subject.
As for my experience with the Samsung 2233RZ I find it to be great for the price. I hear some people have alot of ghosting with it but for me its been fine from day 1. There is some very minor ghosting in high contrast areas but its hardly noticeable, although I do run it at 100hz as 120hz has too much ghosting for me.
HDMI 1.4 is the reason 3D projectors/TV's cant do 3D in 1080p I belive. It has too low bandwidth so they are limited to 720P to keep up the 120hz refresh rate. Monitors overcome this by using 'Dual Link DVI' (I have no idea why no-one has made a projector/TV with DL-DVI yet, seems like an obvious addition).
As for 2D performance I find the Samsung to be fine, I think the specs needed for a monitor to perform well in 3D (low response time, high contrast ratio etc) make them great in 2D pretty much by default. My Sammy came as part of a 3D vision bundle and like I said I am more than happy with it so bundles can be a good way to save money but I havent seen what other monitors come with glasses bundled so I wouldnt know about them.
Overall though I suggest you find a monitor you like the look of and read as many reviews as you can. Its an expensive purchase so you wont regret doing some reading first. If you dont like the sound of the reviews then go back to stage one and find a different monitor you like. Or, if you dont mind the resolution loss down to 720p do the same for a projector.
Hope you find something suitable for you as the world of 3D gaming realy is a magical place once you get into it :)
I only have a LCD monitor, and its one of the cheapest (Samsung 2233RZ), so I cant realy tell you much about projectors. As far as I can tell projectors give less 'crosstalk/ghosting' and are of course a lot bigger but are limited to 720p in 3D and are less easy to use for web browsing/desktop stuff.
As for what crosstalk is, its also known as 'ghosting' and is the leaking of part of the image for the left eye into the right eye and vice versa. Here is a rather severe example: http://3dvision-blog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/acer-gd245hq-overdrive-off-with-glasses.jpg
As you can see some of the left eyes image is visible in the right eye due to the monitor taking too long to 'switch' the left image to the right one. LCD monitors are well known for ghosting due to thier slow response time and this is why 3D went off the radar for some time. Most people started buying LCD flatscreens and they were just too slow to support the 120hz that 3D requires. Recently though monitor technology has caught up a bit and now LCD monitors are fast enough to allow 120hz for 3D. However its not quite there yet and you will experience some level of ghosting dependant on which monitor you go for (generally the newer, more expensive, monitors have less ghosting).
Apparently the Acer HN274H is one of the best monitors at the moment but I am no expert on that, I belive there are other forum threads on this subject.
As for my experience with the Samsung 2233RZ I find it to be great for the price. I hear some people have alot of ghosting with it but for me its been fine from day 1. There is some very minor ghosting in high contrast areas but its hardly noticeable, although I do run it at 100hz as 120hz has too much ghosting for me.
HDMI 1.4 is the reason 3D projectors/TV's cant do 3D in 1080p I belive. It has too low bandwidth so they are limited to 720P to keep up the 120hz refresh rate. Monitors overcome this by using 'Dual Link DVI' (I have no idea why no-one has made a projector/TV with DL-DVI yet, seems like an obvious addition).
As for 2D performance I find the Samsung to be fine, I think the specs needed for a monitor to perform well in 3D (low response time, high contrast ratio etc) make them great in 2D pretty much by default. My Sammy came as part of a 3D vision bundle and like I said I am more than happy with it so bundles can be a good way to save money but I havent seen what other monitors come with glasses bundled so I wouldnt know about them.
Overall though I suggest you find a monitor you like the look of and read as many reviews as you can. Its an expensive purchase so you wont regret doing some reading first. If you dont like the sound of the reviews then go back to stage one and find a different monitor you like. Or, if you dont mind the resolution loss down to 720p do the same for a projector.
Hope you find something suitable for you as the world of 3D gaming realy is a magical place once you get into it :)