GeForce or ... Radeon for 3D support
First time here, absolutely no bias, in fact considering my first GPU purchase. Need a good GPU for 3D video editing and rendering and 3D content creation. Listed down to GTX 660 or HD 7870. My final concern it's about 3D support. I have a Samsung D7000 TV, that's not listed into Nvidia supported hw. Need I to care about that? I'm not a sw expert, so will be difficult for me to do complex modding, prefer to have something that worked out of the box.
First time here, absolutely no bias, in fact considering my first GPU purchase.

Need a good GPU for 3D video editing and rendering and 3D content creation.

Listed down to GTX 660 or HD 7870.

My final concern it's about 3D support. I have a Samsung D7000 TV, that's not listed into Nvidia supported hw. Need I to care about that?

I'm not a sw expert, so will be difficult for me to do complex modding, prefer to have something that worked out of the box.

#1
Posted 03/26/2013 09:59 PM   
If you want something that works out of the box, I would not recommend purchasing anything that isn't on the recommended list. But seeing as how you already own the TV, you don't really have anything to lose. There are a couple of active threads on this forum right now about Nvidia 3D support vs. AMD. The general consensus is that AMD seems to be taking a more active role in pursuing 3D at the moment, but they lag far behind Nvidia overall.
If you want something that works out of the box, I would not recommend purchasing anything that isn't on the recommended list. But seeing as how you already own the TV, you don't really have anything to lose. There are a couple of active threads on this forum right now about Nvidia 3D support vs. AMD. The general consensus is that AMD seems to be taking a more active role in pursuing 3D at the moment, but they lag far behind Nvidia overall.

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#2
Posted 03/26/2013 10:55 PM   
If you're looking to do 3D video editing and 3D content creation you'll most likely need to get a Quadro or Firepro GPU. GTX cards are primarily for gaming and will not enable stereoscopic software as far as I know. http://www.nvidia.com/object/3d-vision-professional-users.html http://www.amd.com/us/products/workstation/graphics/ati-firepro-3d/Pages/ati-firepro-3d.aspx
If you're looking to do 3D video editing and 3D content creation you'll most likely need to get a Quadro or Firepro GPU. GTX cards are primarily for gaming and will not enable stereoscopic software as far as I know.


http://www.nvidia.com/object/3d-vision-professional-users.html


http://www.amd.com/us/products/workstation/graphics/ati-firepro-3d/Pages/ati-firepro-3d.aspx

#3
Posted 03/26/2013 10:58 PM   
Not true, D-Man. I have a 660, and I do a fair amount of work in Maya and 3ds Max. Works fine.
Not true, D-Man. I have a 660, and I do a fair amount of work in Maya and 3ds Max. Works fine.

#4
Posted 03/27/2013 12:31 AM   
hmm good to know, I thought Nvidia locked it out on GTX cards
hmm good to know, I thought Nvidia locked it out on GTX cards

#5
Posted 03/27/2013 12:51 AM   
Depends on directx or opengl. I have no idea which uses which though. Some guy on 3Dvisionlive uses something a ton[max?].
Depends on directx or opengl.
I have no idea which uses which though. Some guy on 3Dvisionlive uses something a ton[max?].

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#6
Posted 03/27/2013 01:01 AM   
@davide445 The newest drivers are suppusedly all HDMI 1.4 3D HDTVs and Projectors. But it doesn't seem to be the case. As long as your 3D TV is HDMI 1.4 compliant, you can get it added to the supported list by following the instructions at http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/2774/~/how-do-i-know-if-3dtv-play-supports-my-3d-tv%3F
@davide445

The newest drivers are suppusedly all HDMI 1.4 3D HDTVs and Projectors. But it doesn't seem to be the case. As long as your 3D TV is HDMI 1.4 compliant, you can get it added to the supported list by following the instructions at http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/2774/~/how-do-i-know-if-3dtv-play-supports-my-3d-tv%3F

#7
Posted 03/27/2013 01:27 AM   
Oh, as an aside I've never tried to use 3dvision in any kind of 3d package, so I don't know if that works or not.
Oh, as an aside I've never tried to use 3dvision in any kind of 3d package, so I don't know if that works or not.

#8
Posted 03/27/2013 01:37 AM   
Thanks all. Rechecking 3D support I was wrong, appear that Nvidia officially support much more TV set than ATI http://www.nvidia.com/object/3dtv-play-system-requirements.html http://www.amd.com/us/Documents/3D-displays-compatible.pdf Strange to say in Nvidia list there are many D7000, but not my 46". Hopefully will work anyway. I'm also a bit confused about what exactly mean 3D support: if my VC does have a HDMI 1.4 port and I attach it to my tv as far the card transmit a HDMI compatible signal any tv will work with....or I'm simplifying the situation? HDMI request a explicit support of any specific render? I found this (unanswered) post that reassume all my doubt about 3D TV commanded from a video card (Nvidia or ATI) http://superuser.com/questions/522979/does-ati-or-nvidia-support-hdmi-3d-without-proprietary-glasses-hardware
Thanks all.
Rechecking 3D support I was wrong, appear that Nvidia officially support much more TV set than ATI

http://www.nvidia.com/object/3dtv-play-system-requirements.html
http://www.amd.com/us/Documents/3D-displays-compatible.pdf

Strange to say in Nvidia list there are many D7000, but not my 46". Hopefully will work anyway.

I'm also a bit confused about what exactly mean 3D support: if my VC does have a HDMI 1.4 port and I attach it to my tv as far the card transmit a HDMI compatible signal any tv will work with....or I'm simplifying the situation?
HDMI request a explicit support of any specific render?

I found this (unanswered) post that reassume all my doubt about 3D TV commanded from a video card (Nvidia or ATI)

http://superuser.com/questions/522979/does-ati-or-nvidia-support-hdmi-3d-without-proprietary-glasses-hardware

#9
Posted 03/27/2013 07:06 AM   
I was also wondering about Intel InTru 3D, does that compare with Nvidia 3D Vision?
I was also wondering about Intel InTru 3D, does that compare with Nvidia 3D Vision?

#10
Posted 03/27/2013 03:28 PM   
[quote="davide445"]I was also wondering about Intel InTru 3D, does that compare with Nvidia 3D Vision?[/quote] Looks like it's just a way of (pre)rendering stereoscopic movies, like Monsters vs. Aliens. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/InTru3D[/url] [quote]InTru3D enables animators to author films directly in 3D for what is described as "a more realistic 3D experience." Animated films authored with InTru3D are shown in theaters using 3D stereoscopic projection technology such as that provided by Real D Cinema and IMAX 3D which both require polarized glasses to view the 3D films.[/quote]
davide445 said:I was also wondering about Intel InTru 3D, does that compare with Nvidia 3D Vision?


Looks like it's just a way of (pre)rendering stereoscopic movies, like Monsters vs. Aliens.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/InTru3D

InTru3D enables animators to author films directly in 3D for what is described as "a more realistic 3D experience." Animated films authored with InTru3D are shown in theaters using 3D stereoscopic projection technology such as that provided by Real D Cinema and IMAX 3D which both require polarized glasses to view the 3D films.
#11
Posted 03/27/2013 03:29 PM   
So it's just another acceleration technology, doesn't impact 3D video streaming from a videocard?
So it's just another acceleration technology, doesn't impact 3D video streaming from a videocard?

#12
Posted 03/27/2013 03:54 PM   
I see Nvidia vs AMD as being similar to Apple vs Android. Nvidia, like apple, is very good at what they do but it is their way or the highway. If a game is DirectX 10 or above it either works well or doesn't, consumers can't do much to change that. AMD, through tridef, gives consumers the tools to create and share their own 3D profiles. This makes more games 3D accessible. Downside of AMD is most of the time you will get less frames in 3D than you would on Nvidia. This has been my experience. I'm an Android and Nvidia owner, starting to question whether 7970 xfire would have been better than 680 SLI. Hopefully Nvidia steps up their 3D game.
I see Nvidia vs AMD as being similar to Apple vs Android. Nvidia, like apple, is very good at what they do but it is their way or the highway. If a game is DirectX 10 or above it either works well or doesn't, consumers can't do much to change that. AMD, through tridef, gives consumers the tools to create and share their own 3D profiles. This makes more games 3D accessible. Downside of AMD is most of the time you will get less frames in 3D than you would on Nvidia.

This has been my experience. I'm an Android and Nvidia owner, starting to question whether 7970 xfire would have been better than 680 SLI. Hopefully Nvidia steps up their 3D game.

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#13
Posted 03/27/2013 08:42 PM   
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