Nvidia 3d Vision Ghosting
Hi guys i'm having some problems with my 3D vision kit 2 and my new monitor the top of the Screen has a lot of ghosting, i looked a lot on the web but found no real fix for that it's not the glasses because i bought a extra glasses by accident and the problem is the same on both. =( does anybody found a way to fix this ??? my Computer is a GTX870m Acer Predator GN246HL 144hz Cheer guys
Hi guys i'm having some problems with my 3D vision kit 2 and my new monitor
the top of the Screen has a lot of ghosting, i looked a lot on the web but found no real fix for that
it's not the glasses because i bought a extra glasses by accident and the problem is the same on both.
=(

does anybody found a way to fix this ???
my Computer is a
GTX870m
Acer Predator GN246HL 144hz

Cheer guys

#1
Posted 07/17/2014 03:56 PM   
If it's only on the top of the screen, are you looking at it from a low/high angle? Otherwise, could be a fault. Is it under warranty?
If it's only on the top of the screen, are you looking at it from a low/high angle? Otherwise, could be a fault. Is it under warranty?

#2
Posted 07/17/2014 04:11 PM   
It's only the 20% of the top. i tried with 2 Nvidia 3d Vision glasses and both give me the same problem it's like everything down it's on 3d but the no the top, if i look with the glasses or without is the same =( i did a test on the http://helixmod.blogspot.ch/ and take a look on the top the image looks like this [url]http://postimg.org/image/fo8nlv8lp/[/url] and at the bottom like this [url]http://postimg.org/image/c633f1mt5/[/url] I saw some post saying how to "fix" this but nothing worked for me =(
It's only the 20% of the top.
i tried with 2 Nvidia 3d Vision glasses and both give me the same problem it's like everything down it's on 3d but the no the top, if i look with the glasses or without is the same =(
i did a test on the http://helixmod.blogspot.ch/ and take a look
on the top the image looks like this http://postimg.org/image/fo8nlv8lp/
and at the bottom like this http://postimg.org/image/c633f1mt5/

I saw some post saying how to "fix" this but nothing worked for me =(

#3
Posted 07/17/2014 06:10 PM   
[quote="Danielbim"]Hi guys i'm having some problems with my 3D vision kit 2 and my new monitor the top of the Screen has a lot of ghosting, i looked a lot on the web but found no real fix for that it's not the glasses because i bought a extra glasses by accident and the problem is the same on both. =( does anybody found a way to fix this ??? my Computer is a GTX870m Acer Predator GN246HL 144hz Cheer guys [/quote] Top and bottom of the screen have the strongest ghost effect usually. It may a bit differ from monitor to monitor, but this parts of the screen always have ghosting. It is because of vertical screen refreshing (pucture for both eyes forms from up to down) and glasses matrix shutting and opening fading. So basicly one eye see part of picture for another eye in upper part of the screen and second eye see part of picture for another eye in bottom of the screen (or may be both eyes see bottom and upper side - i don't remember already, i tested and searched this info many years ago). Also glasses matrix is most black in the middle. So when you have dark object on bright background or vise versa on the bottom or top of the screen, you will always be noticed with strong ghost effect. So i advice you to try to get with it. I begin to ignore ghost effect almost totally after half of the year of active 3D playing
Danielbim said:Hi guys i'm having some problems with my 3D vision kit 2 and my new monitor
the top of the Screen has a lot of ghosting, i looked a lot on the web but found no real fix for that
it's not the glasses because i bought a extra glasses by accident and the problem is the same on both.
=(

does anybody found a way to fix this ???
my Computer is a
GTX870m
Acer Predator GN246HL 144hz

Cheer guys

Top and bottom of the screen have the strongest ghost effect usually. It may a bit differ from monitor to monitor, but this parts of the screen always have ghosting. It is because of vertical screen refreshing (pucture for both eyes forms from up to down) and glasses matrix shutting and opening fading.
So basicly one eye see part of picture for another eye in upper part of the screen and second eye see part of picture for another eye in bottom of the screen (or may be both eyes see bottom and upper side - i don't remember already, i tested and searched this info many years ago). Also glasses matrix is most black in the middle.
So when you have dark object on bright background or vise versa on the bottom or top of the screen, you will always be noticed with strong ghost effect.

So i advice you to try to get with it. I begin to ignore ghost effect almost totally after half of the year of active 3D playing

#4
Posted 07/17/2014 08:28 PM   
This may have totally nothing to do with this topic. But in Skyrim, I noticed the sky was ghosting quite a lot. What helped me out was to turn contrast on my monitor down and brightness in game up along with messing with the convergence setting, it's all working good now. Not sure if you can change depth or convergence on pics within websites. I think it's only in game that they'll work? Someone please correct me if I'm totally of base on this. :)
This may have totally nothing to do with this topic. But in Skyrim, I noticed the sky was ghosting quite a lot. What helped me out was to turn contrast on my monitor down and brightness in game up along with messing with the convergence setting, it's all working good now. Not sure if you can change depth or convergence on pics within websites. I think it's only in game that they'll work? Someone please correct me if I'm totally of base on this. :)

#5
Posted 07/17/2014 10:57 PM   
Oh man ... i'm sorry i can't get used to this if i buy something i want it to work. i rather use my TV with TRidef form AMD ot the 3d form the TV then play i game with 3d vision like this i feel cheated by nvidia because everything they put out is ohh this is AMAZING !!! ohhhhh 3d vision is great , then you buy and SURPRISE !!! i will be hell for the people on the support. i want my shit working. if it would be like $50 i would just trash and use the monitor for working ( main reason i bought it) but i payd like $160 on this shit. it's a hell of a trauma rsrsrsrsr
Oh man ... i'm sorry i can't get used to this
if i buy something i want it to work.
i rather use my TV with TRidef form AMD ot the 3d form the TV then play i game with 3d vision like this
i feel cheated by nvidia because everything they put out is ohh this is AMAZING !!!
ohhhhh 3d vision is great , then you buy and SURPRISE !!!
i will be hell for the people on the support. i want my shit working. if it would be like $50 i would just trash and use the monitor for working ( main reason i bought it) but i payd like $160 on this shit.
it's a hell of a trauma rsrsrsrsr

#6
Posted 07/17/2014 11:02 PM   
What type of cable are you using to connect? $250 at Newegg right now http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA24G1S87587&cm_re=GN246HL-_-24-009-642-_-Product Anyhow, for 3D Vision, you need to use a Dual Link DVI cable and the refresh needs to be set at 120Hz. Was there any ghosting in the 3D Vision setup wizard and were you able to complete the setup successfully? What Operating System are you using?
What type of cable are you using to connect?


$250 at Newegg right now
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA24G1S87587&cm_re=GN246HL-_-24-009-642-_-Product

Anyhow, for 3D Vision, you need to use a Dual Link DVI cable and the refresh needs to be set at 120Hz.

Was there any ghosting in the 3D Vision setup wizard and were you able to complete the setup successfully?

What Operating System are you using?

#7
Posted 07/18/2014 12:10 AM   
Your through the lens photos suggest that there is a sync problem with that monitor. That top part is not simply ghosting, that is out of sync. Your expectation is right that the whole screen should be as good as the bottom image. It's worth trying some experiments to see, but it looks to me like that monitor is defective (for 3D).
Your through the lens photos suggest that there is a sync problem with that monitor. That top part is not simply ghosting, that is out of sync. Your expectation is right that the whole screen should be as good as the bottom image.

It's worth trying some experiments to see, but it looks to me like that monitor is defective (for 3D).

Acer H5360 (1280x720@120Hz) - ASUS VG248QE with GSync mod - 3D Vision 1&2 - Driver 372.54
GTX 970 - i5-4670K@4.2GHz - 12GB RAM - Win7x64+evilKB2670838 - 4 Disk X25 RAID
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#8
Posted 07/18/2014 02:48 AM   
Guys, i don't know what r you talking about. I had 2 3D Vision monitors, both 3D Vision kit versions and when i hear "Oh, there is NO ghosting on my LCD monitor!"... Well, it's not funny. There IS ghosting on LCD monitors, not matter the monitor cost 200 $ or 700$. You may low contrast, you may low down HZ (set to 100 or 75 for example using 3-rd party soft), but you can NEVER rid of ghosting totally on LCD. For present day at least. Also ghost effect depends strongly on current game stereo support quality. 3D Vision ready rated games have minimal ghosting, some games out of rating or rating poor or fair may have much bigger ghost effect. But eventually, all games on LCD have ghost
Guys, i don't know what r you talking about. I had 2 3D Vision monitors, both 3D Vision kit versions and when i hear "Oh, there is NO ghosting on my LCD monitor!"... Well, it's not funny. There IS ghosting on LCD monitors, not matter the monitor cost 200 $ or 700$.
You may low contrast, you may low down HZ (set to 100 or 75 for example using 3-rd party soft), but you can NEVER rid of ghosting totally on LCD. For present day at least.

Also ghost effect depends strongly on current game stereo support quality. 3D Vision ready rated games have minimal ghosting, some games out of rating or rating poor or fair may have much bigger ghost effect.
But eventually, all games on LCD have ghost

#9
Posted 07/18/2014 08:30 AM   
@kyson: Look at the photographs. That's not ghosting.
@kyson: Look at the photographs. That's not ghosting.

Acer H5360 (1280x720@120Hz) - ASUS VG248QE with GSync mod - 3D Vision 1&2 - Driver 372.54
GTX 970 - i5-4670K@4.2GHz - 12GB RAM - Win7x64+evilKB2670838 - 4 Disk X25 RAID
SAGER NP9870-S - GTX 980 - i7-6700K - Win10 Pro 1607
Latest 3Dmigoto Release
Bo3b's School for ShaderHackers

#10
Posted 07/18/2014 10:11 AM   
Well mister bo3b was right i wrote to Acer and they told me that is a hardware problem i love how luck i am rsrsrsrs already wrote the store i bought the monitor and they are sending me a another one i hope this time it will work but i will only get it next week =(
Well mister bo3b was right
i wrote to Acer and they told me that is a hardware problem
i love how luck i am rsrsrsrs
already wrote the store i bought the monitor and they are sending me a another one
i hope this time it will work
but i will only get it next week =(

#11
Posted 07/18/2014 12:17 PM   
Thank you guys for taking your time to help me i really appreciate the gesture Thank you all
Thank you guys for taking your time to help me
i really appreciate the gesture
Thank you all

#12
Posted 07/18/2014 12:18 PM   
Well its a well known drivers issue, prior to the "fake 3D driver" ghosting didn't exist, just try 327.23 drivers and tell me if they work correctly.
Well its a well known drivers issue, prior to the "fake 3D driver" ghosting didn't exist, just try 327.23 drivers and tell me if they work correctly.

#13
Posted 09/15/2014 08:37 AM   
Go green Team! How many forums posts are there going to be about botched 3D until they acknowledge it? Fix your sh*t nvidia!
Go green Team! How many forums posts are there going to be about botched 3D until they acknowledge it?
Fix your sh*t nvidia!

#14
Posted 09/19/2014 08:14 PM   
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