Need extreme help yes i am the moron who keeps asking technical questions
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All right...here we go..

Let me start off by saying i am somewhat knowledgable about computers. It is a 1 1/2 years old HP I bought direct with a 9800gt 1g pre installed. I plug it into a Samsung DLP at 1920x1080. I have the newest CD kit for my 3D vision (which has been working fine) (I never downloaded the defective driver that was out a few weeks back so that shouldn't be it)

So.............

Last weekend I opened up my computer (yes I am careful) and installed a new Corsair 650 watt psu in anticipation of my new GTX 470. While I had it opened I did vacuum it out (yes very carefully). I replaced the power supply and moved the cables so it would not block any fans. All was good. It powered up fine and my computer ran normal for the duration of the week. No noticable slowdown, noise, burning smells or anything else. I played WOW for a few hours each night. No problems.
Last night I came home and turned on the computer to play Wow. Computer booted up fine but after being on for about 10 min (before I even got to WOW), the screen flickered and my resolution dropped to 640x something and there were crazy artifacts everywhere. I shut it down and rebooted and the screens for startup got stranger and stranger at 640x?. I open up the computer and reset the video card in, same problem. I switch to the othe DVI port and it booted up fine. Called HP tech support (wheee....) and run there diagnostics and it says my MOBO and video card are fine. I decide to start backing up my hard drive infear and I turned on my XBOX 360 to play. When I switch back to the pc, I caught the tail end of a Blue screen filled with random numbers and letters. My computer then restarts itself. All the artifacts are back, and the reso is 640x???.

Soooo.... I switch it back to the original DVi port and after 3 reboots it goes back to normal. Really odd.

I am guessing I have a bad video card. Or could the power supply have caused this...or a virus?

any help would be appreciated before I spend copius amounts of money to pay to have it repaired. I plan on running a full diagnostic (HP) tonight.

PLEASE HELP!!!
All right...here we go..



Let me start off by saying i am somewhat knowledgable about computers. It is a 1 1/2 years old HP I bought direct with a 9800gt 1g pre installed. I plug it into a Samsung DLP at 1920x1080. I have the newest CD kit for my 3D vision (which has been working fine) (I never downloaded the defective driver that was out a few weeks back so that shouldn't be it)



So.............



Last weekend I opened up my computer (yes I am careful) and installed a new Corsair 650 watt psu in anticipation of my new GTX 470. While I had it opened I did vacuum it out (yes very carefully). I replaced the power supply and moved the cables so it would not block any fans. All was good. It powered up fine and my computer ran normal for the duration of the week. No noticable slowdown, noise, burning smells or anything else. I played WOW for a few hours each night. No problems.

Last night I came home and turned on the computer to play Wow. Computer booted up fine but after being on for about 10 min (before I even got to WOW), the screen flickered and my resolution dropped to 640x something and there were crazy artifacts everywhere. I shut it down and rebooted and the screens for startup got stranger and stranger at 640x?. I open up the computer and reset the video card in, same problem. I switch to the othe DVI port and it booted up fine. Called HP tech support (wheee....) and run there diagnostics and it says my MOBO and video card are fine. I decide to start backing up my hard drive infear and I turned on my XBOX 360 to play. When I switch back to the pc, I caught the tail end of a Blue screen filled with random numbers and letters. My computer then restarts itself. All the artifacts are back, and the reso is 640x???.



Soooo.... I switch it back to the original DVi port and after 3 reboots it goes back to normal. Really odd.



I am guessing I have a bad video card. Or could the power supply have caused this...or a virus?



any help would be appreciated before I spend copius amounts of money to pay to have it repaired. I plan on running a full diagnostic (HP) tonight.



PLEASE HELP!!!

#1
Posted 04/03/2010 03:01 PM   
What kind of stress does using 3D vision put on a video card? Does it shorten the life span?
What kind of stress does using 3D vision put on a video card? Does it shorten the life span?

#2
Posted 04/03/2010 03:35 PM   
Vacuuming creates static electricity, you should always and only use canned air to clean out your computer. Could be any number of things causing the problem, but based on what you've told my first guess would be that something got a charge while you were cleaning and is creating a problem now.

As for 3d Vision putting a stress on the gpu and shortening the life span, probably not in any reasonable life-span (a few years) as long as you keep it properly cooled.
Vacuuming creates static electricity, you should always and only use canned air to clean out your computer. Could be any number of things causing the problem, but based on what you've told my first guess would be that something got a charge while you were cleaning and is creating a problem now.



As for 3d Vision putting a stress on the gpu and shortening the life span, probably not in any reasonable life-span (a few years) as long as you keep it properly cooled.

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#3
Posted 04/03/2010 03:55 PM   
[quote name='Chris-NYC' post='1033196' date='Apr 3 2010, 10:55 AM']Vacuuming creates static electricity, you should always and only use canned air to clean out your computer. Could be any number of things causing the problem, but based on what you've told my first guess would be that something got a charge while you were cleaning and is creating a problem now.

As for 3d Vision putting a stress on the gpu and shortening the life span, probably not in any reasonable life-span (a few years) as long as you keep it properly cooled.[/quote]
If that is true, would it have worked fine for a week before this happend. I am not trying to debunk your theory, just curious and I really appreciate the response.
[quote name='Chris-NYC' post='1033196' date='Apr 3 2010, 10:55 AM']Vacuuming creates static electricity, you should always and only use canned air to clean out your computer. Could be any number of things causing the problem, but based on what you've told my first guess would be that something got a charge while you were cleaning and is creating a problem now.



As for 3d Vision putting a stress on the gpu and shortening the life span, probably not in any reasonable life-span (a few years) as long as you keep it properly cooled.

If that is true, would it have worked fine for a week before this happend. I am not trying to debunk your theory, just curious and I really appreciate the response.

#4
Posted 04/03/2010 04:15 PM   
it does definately look to be a gfx card issue, do you ru any ocing software for your card ie powerstrip/rivatuner?
could possibly be them ocing your card on start up? also have you tried starting in safe mode?
it does definately look to be a gfx card issue, do you ru any ocing software for your card ie powerstrip/rivatuner?

could possibly be them ocing your card on start up? also have you tried starting in safe mode?

#5
Posted 04/03/2010 05:11 PM   
There is the possabilty of static elecy messing things up but if u say it worked fine for a week i'd actualy gues its not that.

If i were you i'd unplug your GPU from the motherboard and clean the sockets as dust can get in there over time.

What it wont be is a virus, im prety sure of that.

Dose sound like your grafics card is broken tho if im honest /yucky.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':yucky:' />


I would also like to add i also ocasionaly and carefully vacume the dust out of my pc, but it creats static???!??!?!?! i dident know that! Either way i have had no such problems :mellow:

I always thought the air blowing things wouldent solve anything as it just moves it somewhere else so when ur fans come back on its right back where u moved it from, or somewhere else you dont want it.
There is the possabilty of static elecy messing things up but if u say it worked fine for a week i'd actualy gues its not that.



If i were you i'd unplug your GPU from the motherboard and clean the sockets as dust can get in there over time.



What it wont be is a virus, im prety sure of that.



Dose sound like your grafics card is broken tho if im honest /yucky.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':yucky:' />





I would also like to add i also ocasionaly and carefully vacume the dust out of my pc, but it creats static???!??!?!?! i dident know that! Either way i have had no such problems :mellow:



I always thought the air blowing things wouldent solve anything as it just moves it somewhere else so when ur fans come back on its right back where u moved it from, or somewhere else you dont want it.

#6
Posted 04/03/2010 05:18 PM   
Do you think it is a possibility my new PSU did this?
Do you think it is a possibility my new PSU did this?

#7
Posted 04/03/2010 06:38 PM   
[quote name='whodamanxbox' post='1033271' date='Apr 3 2010, 06:38 PM']Do you think it is a possibility my new PSU did this?[/quote]

Possibly.... but as you have already said this problem ocured 1 week later so it's probebly unlikely.

Mabye a power surge could of caused the issues? but im only guesing and that wont help anything lol.

Sounds like you need that new 470 now /teehee.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':teehee:' />
[quote name='whodamanxbox' post='1033271' date='Apr 3 2010, 06:38 PM']Do you think it is a possibility my new PSU did this?



Possibly.... but as you have already said this problem ocured 1 week later so it's probebly unlikely.



Mabye a power surge could of caused the issues? but im only guesing and that wont help anything lol.



Sounds like you need that new 470 now /teehee.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':teehee:' />

#8
Posted 04/03/2010 08:36 PM   
[quote name='Adz 3000' post='1033323' date='Apr 3 2010, 02:36 PM']Possibly.... but as you have already said this problem ocured 1 week later so it's probebly unlikely.

Mabye a power surge could of caused the issues? but im only guesing and that wont help anything lol.

Sounds like you need that new 470 now /teehee.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':teehee:' />[/quote]
Yeah I sure do. It is going to kill me not being able to play for 2 weeks.

I love/hate computers
[quote name='Adz 3000' post='1033323' date='Apr 3 2010, 02:36 PM']Possibly.... but as you have already said this problem ocured 1 week later so it's probebly unlikely.



Mabye a power surge could of caused the issues? but im only guesing and that wont help anything lol.



Sounds like you need that new 470 now /teehee.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':teehee:' />

Yeah I sure do. It is going to kill me not being able to play for 2 weeks.



I love/hate computers

#9
Posted 04/03/2010 08:40 PM   
You love/hate computer's? Is'nt that something like being married?
You love/hate computer's? Is'nt that something like being married?

#10
Posted 04/03/2010 08:51 PM   
[quote name='Impatient' post='1033331' date='Apr 3 2010, 02:51 PM']You love/hate computer's? Is'nt that something like being married?[/quote]
exactly

I am reading about some driver issues (not the one from early March). apparently Nvidia is still having issues. Can anyone confirm (9800GT).
[quote name='Impatient' post='1033331' date='Apr 3 2010, 02:51 PM']You love/hate computer's? Is'nt that something like being married?

exactly



I am reading about some driver issues (not the one from early March). apparently Nvidia is still having issues. Can anyone confirm (9800GT).

#11
Posted 04/03/2010 09:23 PM   
dude listen, I had the exact same issue. I was running dual 8800 ultra cards on water cooling. Suddenly, my resolution dropped and I had all kinds of demonic artifacts. So I reacted like anyone would do and bent over. To hit the power button of course. That's when I saw that my water was boiling, hell I didn't have much water left. A water pump had gone crazy and stopped working, so the water stopped circulating, and the cards overheated. One of the cards broke down completly, my motherboards slot where the card had been placed got screwed too.

So about your problem, my theory is that somehow someway, probably your fault; the card, a fan on the card, maybe even a fan in the computer, got overloaded with your new PSU and broke down causing your card to overheat. Now I spent a great deal of time on the internet and researched this topic. Apparently, one can have a great deal of luck like yourself and manage to survive after a reboot. But be sure to get a hold of your temps and fix the problem since your card is probably running really hot all the time.

It might be your PSU which are pumping in to much electricity in the card, have you really installed it correctly?
dude listen, I had the exact same issue. I was running dual 8800 ultra cards on water cooling. Suddenly, my resolution dropped and I had all kinds of demonic artifacts. So I reacted like anyone would do and bent over. To hit the power button of course. That's when I saw that my water was boiling, hell I didn't have much water left. A water pump had gone crazy and stopped working, so the water stopped circulating, and the cards overheated. One of the cards broke down completly, my motherboards slot where the card had been placed got screwed too.



So about your problem, my theory is that somehow someway, probably your fault; the card, a fan on the card, maybe even a fan in the computer, got overloaded with your new PSU and broke down causing your card to overheat. Now I spent a great deal of time on the internet and researched this topic. Apparently, one can have a great deal of luck like yourself and manage to survive after a reboot. But be sure to get a hold of your temps and fix the problem since your card is probably running really hot all the time.



It might be your PSU which are pumping in to much electricity in the card, have you really installed it correctly?

CPU: QX6850 @ 3Ghz (default factory value)
GPU: GTX 295
RAM: 8 Gb DDR2

Geforce drivers installed: 257.15
3D Vision USB driver: CD 1.27

OS: Win7 x64

#12
Posted 04/03/2010 09:47 PM   
[quote name='AntiKrist' post='1033362' date='Apr 3 2010, 03:47 PM']dude listen, I had the exact same issue. I was running dual 8800 ultra cards on water cooling. Suddenly, my resolution dropped and I had all kinds of demonic artifacts. So I reacted like anyone would do and bent over. To hit the power button of course. That's when I saw that my water was boiling, hell I didn't have much water left. A water pump had gone crazy and stopped working, so the water stopped circulating, and the cards overheated. One of the cards broke down completly, my motherboards slot where the card had been placed got screwed too.

So about your problem, my theory is that somehow someway, probably your fault; the card, a fan on the card, maybe even a fan in the computer, got overloaded with your new PSU and broke down causing your card to overheat. Now I spent a great deal of time on the internet and researched this topic. Apparently, one can have a great deal of luck like yourself and manage to survive after a reboot. But be sure to get a hold of your temps and fix the problem since your card is probably running really hot all the time.

It might be your PSU which are pumping in to much electricity in the card, have you really installed it correctly?[/quote]
Yeah, I have installed a few power supplies in my day. It appears to be pretty cut and dry. It is just 1 PCI-e 6 pin into the card. My fans appeared to be still working and when I reset the card which was right afterwards, it wasn't hot. It is my understanding that PSU only supply the power that is neccessary so I don't know how putting a bigger PSU in would damage the card a week later. Once again, not trying to debunk and I appreciate your help.
[quote name='AntiKrist' post='1033362' date='Apr 3 2010, 03:47 PM']dude listen, I had the exact same issue. I was running dual 8800 ultra cards on water cooling. Suddenly, my resolution dropped and I had all kinds of demonic artifacts. So I reacted like anyone would do and bent over. To hit the power button of course. That's when I saw that my water was boiling, hell I didn't have much water left. A water pump had gone crazy and stopped working, so the water stopped circulating, and the cards overheated. One of the cards broke down completly, my motherboards slot where the card had been placed got screwed too.



So about your problem, my theory is that somehow someway, probably your fault; the card, a fan on the card, maybe even a fan in the computer, got overloaded with your new PSU and broke down causing your card to overheat. Now I spent a great deal of time on the internet and researched this topic. Apparently, one can have a great deal of luck like yourself and manage to survive after a reboot. But be sure to get a hold of your temps and fix the problem since your card is probably running really hot all the time.



It might be your PSU which are pumping in to much electricity in the card, have you really installed it correctly?

Yeah, I have installed a few power supplies in my day. It appears to be pretty cut and dry. It is just 1 PCI-e 6 pin into the card. My fans appeared to be still working and when I reset the card which was right afterwards, it wasn't hot. It is my understanding that PSU only supply the power that is neccessary so I don't know how putting a bigger PSU in would damage the card a week later. Once again, not trying to debunk and I appreciate your help.

#13
Posted 04/03/2010 09:55 PM   
If you really question the power supply causeing it CPUID hardware monitor would give the volt's the motherboard state's.Also OCCT has a power supply test and a gpu test,just read the warning's.
If you really question the power supply causeing it CPUID hardware monitor would give the volt's the motherboard state's.Also OCCT has a power supply test and a gpu test,just read the warning's.

#14
Posted 04/03/2010 10:07 PM   
[quote name='Impatient' post='1033375' date='Apr 3 2010, 04:07 PM']If you really question the power supply causeing it CPUID hardware monitor would give the volt's the motherboard state's.Also OCCT has a power supply test and a gpu test,just read the warning's.[/quote]
Thanks impatient, I saw you had mentioned that in a few other posts. I am assuming that if it were the PSU, other components would have failed or I would have smelled some sort of burning. If I can get my computer to stay work long enough, I will try
Thanks again everyone!!!!
[quote name='Impatient' post='1033375' date='Apr 3 2010, 04:07 PM']If you really question the power supply causeing it CPUID hardware monitor would give the volt's the motherboard state's.Also OCCT has a power supply test and a gpu test,just read the warning's.

Thanks impatient, I saw you had mentioned that in a few other posts. I am assuming that if it were the PSU, other components would have failed or I would have smelled some sort of burning. If I can get my computer to stay work long enough, I will try

Thanks again everyone!!!!

#15
Posted 04/03/2010 10:20 PM   
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