Samsung TV 3D settings to low crosstalk. (+ Crosstalk Comparison)
I use to use my 55ES7000 to watch 3D movies and for me, it was one of the best active 3D I have tested, from about 40 3D TV models since 2009.
After several crosstalk testing in the mall, one of my friend bought a 55H6200 and the 3D was slightly better than mine. So I've bought a 75H6400, but the 3D was quite poor, lot of crosstalk.
I've manage to find the problem, on my ES7000 and the H6200, when puted in 3D, the gaming mode is automatiquely activated, giving an extremely better response and fluidity (not as much as my 3D monitor, but I love it anyway, I hate latency), Gaming mode desactivate some shity options generated by the TV CPU, like TrueMotion.
On Samsung 3D TV, setting in 2D and 3D are separated, and I found that with gaming mode enabled, settings are again separated, so between 2D, 3D and gaming you got 4 differents settings available.
To set the TV in gaming mode you need to go to Menu / System / General / Gaming Mode. With that activated the 3D lost a lot of crosstalk, to the level of the H6200 of my friend which is better than my ES7000.
Here are the Rabbit Crosstalk test results: (As reminder, for perfect 3D, you should not see the rabbit at all !)
55ES7000:
Backlight: 2
Contrast: 100
Brightness: 45
Gamma: +3
[url=https://postimg.org/image/43er6tlkr/][img]https://s25.postimg.org/43er6tlkr/image.jpg[/img][/url][url=https://postimg.org/image/ca6qyebnf/][img]https://s25.postimg.org/ca6qyebnf/image.jpg[/img][/url]
[url=https://postimg.org/image/5snuew1a3/][img]https://s25.postimg.org/5snuew1a3/image.jpg[/img][/url][url=https://postimg.org/image/ywc2b4pdn/][img]https://s25.postimg.org/ywc2b4pdn/image.jpg[/img][/url]
75H6400: (In Gaming Mode)
Backlight: 2
Contrast: 100
Brightness: 45
Gamma: +3
[url=https://postimg.org/image/b08pxh3ln/][img]https://s25.postimg.org/b08pxh3ln/H6400_White.jpg[/img][/url][url=https://postimg.org/image/50kyttit7/][img]https://s25.postimg.org/50kyttit7/H6400_Gray.jpg[/img][/url]
[url=https://postimg.org/image/vbfz616kb/][img]https://s25.postimg.org/vbfz616kb/H6400_Black.jpg[/img][/url][url=https://postimg.org/image/ht92tquez/][img]https://s25.postimg.org/ht92tquez/H6400_Black_added.jpg[/img][/url]
To compare to monitors:
Here the results of mine (ACER GD245HQ):
Brightness: 100
Contrast: 40
White / Grey / Black / Full Black
[url=http://postimg.org/image/aw649krsp/][img]http://s4.postimg.org/aw649krsp/de929720d106169dc310371186a7fa87.jpg[/img][/url][url=http://postimg.org/image/glmctvxyx/][img]http://s4.postimg.org/glmctvxyx/934e746cbcac625450d68b7d21d22e55.jpg[/img][/url]
[url=http://postimg.org/image/3qed74ipl/][img]http://s4.postimg.org/3qed74ipl/c68c1f9a8e7f006b1ec7e614c61bdeaa.jpg[/img][/url][url=http://postimg.org/image/m78rxxynt/][img]http://s4.postimg.org/m78rxxynt/37972eaee0b4b9b5c7e51debcbb8a497.jpg[/img][/url]
On white there is full ghost on top and bottom of the screen. On Grey you can see color ghost on the bottom, reverse ghost in the center and full ghost on th top. Ghost on blacks are quite perfect thouth (Left and right ghost come from the glasses position to shot).
Reverse ghosting come frome exeed of screen overdrive.
Here the result of the ASUS VG248QE on 3DVision 2 glasses:
Brightness: 100
Contrast: 30
LightBoost: 50
White / Grey / Black / Full Black
[url=http://postimg.org/image/gv385fmpb/][img]http://s3.postimg.org/gv385fmpb/da730f702aa47ec88cba22f1ab679cf3.jpg[/img][/url][url=http://postimg.org/image/lwam6su5r/][img]http://s3.postimg.org/lwam6su5r/75afc7fd3a45ee180c7f291940d2ece7.jpg[/img][/url]
[url=http://postimg.org/image/li9a77a27/][img]http://s3.postimg.org/li9a77a27/b048bfccb401f69b2c63e5fe62999c78.jpg[/img][/url][url=http://postimg.org/image/lsgsqjoof/][img]http://s3.postimg.org/lsgsqjoof/5e3edbf6754acac0721b6ccc0290d553.jpg[/img][/url]
The black stripes does not appear, it comes from active LED backligthing (probably the LightBoost).
On white there is full ghost on the very bottom and reverse ghost on very top of the screen. On Grey you can see reverse ghost. Ghost on blacks are quite present, even in full black...
The Rabbit Test: (Read the YouTube description to set and get the best 3D possible.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqpXQVkiJic
If every one could do the test, we will know instantanly which screen is the best for 3D.
.
I use to use my 55ES7000 to watch 3D movies and for me, it was one of the best active 3D I have tested, from about 40 3D TV models since 2009.
After several crosstalk testing in the mall, one of my friend bought a 55H6200 and the 3D was slightly better than mine. So I've bought a 75H6400, but the 3D was quite poor, lot of crosstalk.
I've manage to find the problem, on my ES7000 and the H6200, when puted in 3D, the gaming mode is automatiquely activated, giving an extremely better response and fluidity (not as much as my 3D monitor, but I love it anyway, I hate latency), Gaming mode desactivate some shity options generated by the TV CPU, like TrueMotion.
On Samsung 3D TV, setting in 2D and 3D are separated, and I found that with gaming mode enabled, settings are again separated, so between 2D, 3D and gaming you got 4 differents settings available.
To set the TV in gaming mode you need to go to Menu / System / General / Gaming Mode. With that activated the 3D lost a lot of crosstalk, to the level of the H6200 of my friend which is better than my ES7000.
Here are the Rabbit Crosstalk test results: (As reminder, for perfect 3D, you should not see the rabbit at all !)
Here the results of mine (ACER GD245HQ):
Brightness: 100
Contrast: 40
White / Grey / Black / Full Black
On white there is full ghost on top and bottom of the screen. On Grey you can see color ghost on the bottom, reverse ghost in the center and full ghost on th top. Ghost on blacks are quite perfect thouth (Left and right ghost come from the glasses position to shot).
Reverse ghosting come frome exeed of screen overdrive.
Here the result of the ASUS VG248QE on 3DVision 2 glasses:
Brightness: 100
Contrast: 30
LightBoost: 50
White / Grey / Black / Full Black
The black stripes does not appear, it comes from active LED backligthing (probably the LightBoost).
On white there is full ghost on the very bottom and reverse ghost on very top of the screen. On Grey you can see reverse ghost. Ghost on blacks are quite present, even in full black...
The Rabbit Test: (Read the YouTube description to set and get the best 3D possible.)
If every one could do the test, we will know instantanly which screen is the best for 3D.
What about OLED and passive 3D ?
I've tested my LG EF9500 / EF950V and, it's not the greatest for 3D... First of all, I don't like the passive 3D, filters are too restrictive, in 1080p TV it was not good, first because of the interlaced lignes which were too visible, then because the filters wasn't good enough. On 4K TV, the lignes are not visible anymore (at least at 2 meters), but the filters are still too cheap or not placed correctly.
[url=https://postimg.org/image/5tw5ul09z/][img]https://s31.postimg.org/5tw5ul09z/20160728_142101.jpg[/img][/url]
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Here is the results: (As reminder, for perfect 3D, you should not see the rabbit at all !)
On white: (Quite good but far from perfect)
[url=https://postimg.org/image/3mwikekdj/][img]https://s31.postimg.org/3mwikekdj/1_White_ok.jpg[/img][/url]
On gray: (Not that bad, but not great)
[url=https://postimg.org/image/7kjs9t76v/][img]https://s31.postimg.org/7kjs9t76v/2_Gray_ok.jpg[/img][/url]
On black: (Well it will do the job if you are at this exact perfect position)
[url=https://postimg.org/image/49vf9xh9j/][img]https://s31.postimg.org/49vf9xh9j/2_Black_ok.jpg[/img][/url]
If not: (To low)
[url=https://postimg.org/image/edfjsc8mf/][img]https://s31.postimg.org/edfjsc8mf/1_Black_to_low.jpg[/img][/url]
If not: (To high)
[url=https://postimg.org/image/6lytts4h3/][img]https://s31.postimg.org/6lytts4h3/3_Black_to_high.jpg[/img][/url]
On Dark:
[url=https://postimg.org/image/ze5ld9c4n/][img]https://s31.postimg.org/ze5ld9c4n/7_Dark_ok.jpg[/img][/url]
On Dark: (To low)
[url=https://postimg.org/image/am5z60uxz/][img]https://s31.postimg.org/am5z60uxz/8_Dark_to_low.jpg[/img][/url]
On Dark: (To high)
[url=https://postimg.org/image/oq1uef25j/][img]https://s31.postimg.org/oq1uef25j/6_Dark_to_high.jpg[/img][/url]
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[u]Horizontal movement won't destroy the 3D, but the vertical will:
[/u]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nd5FqeuH2hU&feature=youtu.be
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RealD official glasses are better for moving permissions than the LG, less ghosting will appeared, for fixed watching, the 3D is the same. I've noted though that new official Reald 3D (with edges) are less blueish, more marroonish.
[url=https://postimg.org/image/gtlyjxg2v/][img]https://s31.postimg.org/gtlyjxg2v/20160728_144459.jpg[/img][/url]
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For testing picture, any rubbish phone will do the trick, I have used many different cameras, it won't change the result.
Proof:
[url]https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/828986/3d-vision/which-is-the-best-3d-monitor-/post/4520351/#4520351[/url]
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I've tested my LG EF9500 / EF950V and, it's not the greatest for 3D... First of all, I don't like the passive 3D, filters are too restrictive, in 1080p TV it was not good, first because of the interlaced lignes which were too visible, then because the filters wasn't good enough. On 4K TV, the lignes are not visible anymore (at least at 2 meters), but the filters are still too cheap or not placed correctly.
RealD official glasses are better for moving permissions than the LG, less ghosting will appeared, for fixed watching, the 3D is the same. I've noted though that new official Reald 3D (with edges) are less blueish, more marroonish.
Dugon, thanks for the effort here!
"On Samsung 3D TV, setting in 2D and 3D are separated" -yeah, this has resulted in confusion for some people I think.
What year is the Samsung 75H6400 from? Does it support checkerboard 3D?
Did you use checkerboard 3D on the ES7000? *I think* checkerboard has a little less input lag because the TV does not have to process the image scaling down from 720p to 1080p *each frame*. Checkerboard also look much better than 720p IMO.
"On Samsung 3D TV, setting in 2D and 3D are separated" -yeah, this has resulted in confusion for some people I think.
What year is the Samsung 75H6400 from? Does it support checkerboard 3D?
Did you use checkerboard 3D on the ES7000? *I think* checkerboard has a little less input lag because the TV does not have to process the image scaling down from 720p to 1080p *each frame*. Checkerboard also look much better than 720p IMO.
Sorry for this very late awnser.
Nop, no Cherckerboard option.
ES = 2012
H = 2014
[url]http://www.samsung.com/uk/support/tv-audio-video/what-do-samsung-tv-model-numbers-actually-mean-why-are-they-so-long/[/url]
After several crosstalk testing in the mall, one of my friend bought a 55H6200 and the 3D was slightly better than mine. So I've bought a 75H6400, but the 3D was quite poor, lot of crosstalk.
I've manage to find the problem, on my ES7000 and the H6200, when puted in 3D, the gaming mode is automatiquely activated, giving an extremely better response and fluidity (not as much as my 3D monitor, but I love it anyway, I hate latency), Gaming mode desactivate some shity options generated by the TV CPU, like TrueMotion.
On Samsung 3D TV, setting in 2D and 3D are separated, and I found that with gaming mode enabled, settings are again separated, so between 2D, 3D and gaming you got 4 differents settings available.
To set the TV in gaming mode you need to go to Menu / System / General / Gaming Mode. With that activated the 3D lost a lot of crosstalk, to the level of the H6200 of my friend which is better than my ES7000.
Here are the Rabbit Crosstalk test results: (As reminder, for perfect 3D, you should not see the rabbit at all !)
55ES7000:
Backlight: 2
Contrast: 100
Brightness: 45
Gamma: +3
75H6400: (In Gaming Mode)
Backlight: 2
Contrast: 100
Brightness: 45
Gamma: +3
To compare to monitors:
Here the results of mine (ACER GD245HQ):
Brightness: 100
Contrast: 40
White / Grey / Black / Full Black
On white there is full ghost on top and bottom of the screen. On Grey you can see color ghost on the bottom, reverse ghost in the center and full ghost on th top. Ghost on blacks are quite perfect thouth (Left and right ghost come from the glasses position to shot).
Reverse ghosting come frome exeed of screen overdrive.
Here the result of the ASUS VG248QE on 3DVision 2 glasses:
Brightness: 100
Contrast: 30
LightBoost: 50
White / Grey / Black / Full Black
The black stripes does not appear, it comes from active LED backligthing (probably the LightBoost).
On white there is full ghost on the very bottom and reverse ghost on very top of the screen. On Grey you can see reverse ghost. Ghost on blacks are quite present, even in full black...
The Rabbit Test: (Read the YouTube description to set and get the best 3D possible.)
If every one could do the test, we will know instantanly which screen is the best for 3D.
.
i7 4790K @4.8Ghz / 2x 1080 8GB SLI @2000Mhz / 16GB @2400Mhz
Just click:
My 3D videos and crosstalk test pattern
3DVision Fixes:
HelixMod Site
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I've tested my LG EF9500 / EF950V and, it's not the greatest for 3D... First of all, I don't like the passive 3D, filters are too restrictive, in 1080p TV it was not good, first because of the interlaced lignes which were too visible, then because the filters wasn't good enough. On 4K TV, the lignes are not visible anymore (at least at 2 meters), but the filters are still too cheap or not placed correctly.
--------------------------------------------------------------
Here is the results: (As reminder, for perfect 3D, you should not see the rabbit at all !)
On white: (Quite good but far from perfect)
On gray: (Not that bad, but not great)
On black: (Well it will do the job if you are at this exact perfect position)
If not: (To low)
If not: (To high)
On Dark:
On Dark: (To low)
On Dark: (To high)
--------------------------------------------------------------
Horizontal movement won't destroy the 3D, but the vertical will:
;feature=youtu.be
--------------------------------------------------------------
RealD official glasses are better for moving permissions than the LG, less ghosting will appeared, for fixed watching, the 3D is the same. I've noted though that new official Reald 3D (with edges) are less blueish, more marroonish.
--------------------------------------------------------------
For testing picture, any rubbish phone will do the trick, I have used many different cameras, it won't change the result.
Proof:
https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/828986/3d-vision/which-is-the-best-3d-monitor-/post/4520351/#4520351
.
i7 4790K @4.8Ghz / 2x 1080 8GB SLI @2000Mhz / 16GB @2400Mhz
Just click:
My 3D videos and crosstalk test pattern
3DVision Fixes:
HelixMod Site
Universal fix for UnrealEngine 4 Games
Universal fix for Unity Games
Universal fix for FrostBite 3 Games
Universal fix for TellTales Games
Compability Mode Unleashed
Please donate if you can:
-----> Donations to 3DVision Fixers
.
"On Samsung 3D TV, setting in 2D and 3D are separated" -yeah, this has resulted in confusion for some people I think.
What year is the Samsung 75H6400 from? Does it support checkerboard 3D?
Did you use checkerboard 3D on the ES7000? *I think* checkerboard has a little less input lag because the TV does not have to process the image scaling down from 720p to 1080p *each frame*. Checkerboard also look much better than 720p IMO.
46" Samsung ES7500 3DTV (checkerboard, high FOV as desktop monitor, highly recommend!) - Metro 2033 3D PNG screens - Metro LL filter realism mod - Flugan's Deus Ex:HR Depth changers - Nvidia tech support online form - Nvidia support: 1-800-797-6530
Nop, no Cherckerboard option.
ES = 2012
H = 2014
http://www.samsung.com/uk/support/tv-audio-video/what-do-samsung-tv-model-numbers-actually-mean-why-are-they-so-long/
i7 4790K @4.8Ghz / 2x 1080 8GB SLI @2000Mhz / 16GB @2400Mhz
Just click:
My 3D videos and crosstalk test pattern
3DVision Fixes:
HelixMod Site
Universal fix for UnrealEngine 4 Games
Universal fix for Unity Games
Universal fix for FrostBite 3 Games
Universal fix for TellTales Games
Compability Mode Unleashed
Please donate if you can:
-----> Donations to 3DVision Fixers
.