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I am trying to figure out who is doing it but I am having issue figuring it out but last month bill was $26 which is kind of crazy and kind of says someone is abusing it [300gbs of outgoing data]. Which is not sustainable on my end. If someone knows anything hit me up.
I am trying to figure out who is doing it but I am having issue figuring it out but last month bill was $26 which is kind of crazy and kind of says someone is abusing it [300gbs of outgoing data]. Which is not sustainable on my end. If someone knows anything hit me up.

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#1
Posted 05/04/2019 03:40 AM   
Well on a side note I hope you find out who the abuser is and I went in a cleaned up some files I was no longer needing to be hosted.. hopefully others will too.. Thank you for hosting that. ;)
Well on a side note I hope you find out who the abuser is and I went in a cleaned up some files I was no longer needing to be hosted.. hopefully others will too..

Thank you for hosting that. ;)

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#2
Posted 05/04/2019 04:10 AM   
Space itself isn't really an issue, just bandwidth. Its 1000x a bigger issue when someone puts a 5mb image on the helixmod website that loads everytime then having a 1tb file.
Space itself isn't really an issue, just bandwidth. Its 1000x a bigger issue when someone puts a 5mb image on the helixmod website that loads everytime then having a 1tb file.

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#3
Posted 05/04/2019 04:23 AM   
Sorry to hear that eqzitara. For the future, might it be a sensible suggestion to host on the cloud such as Google Drive/Dropbox, etc?
Sorry to hear that eqzitara.

For the future, might it be a sensible suggestion to host on the cloud such as Google Drive/Dropbox, etc?

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#4
Posted 05/04/2019 04:30 AM   
Maybe in future but there is 10,000+ of individual files and that means relinking. Have no problem with $6ish a month and it was covered because I had a fundraising from way back and I figured that it would last.. not at numbers of last month and this month currently. I just paid to enable bandwidth metrics as well. Its just a pain that I got to be spending time doing this more then anything. The time cost is more annoying then anything.
Maybe in future but there is 10,000+ of individual files and that means relinking.

Have no problem with $6ish a month and it was covered because I had a fundraising from way back and I figured that it would last.. not at numbers of last month and this month currently. I just paid to enable bandwidth metrics as well. Its just a pain that I got to be spending time doing this more then anything.

The time cost is more annoying then anything.

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#5
Posted 05/04/2019 04:55 AM   
I think a possible explanation might be that, after the news of the demise of 3D Vision, some cautious people did a site-rip in case HelixMod went down, and I can appreciate that sentiment. They probably didn't realise the burden on you. I don't know if anyone remembers the StereoVision.net forums, but that was a tremendous waste of valuable discussion and information once those archives were lost.
I think a possible explanation might be that, after the news of the demise of 3D Vision, some cautious people did a site-rip in case HelixMod went down, and I can appreciate that sentiment. They probably didn't realise the burden on you.

I don't know if anyone remembers the StereoVision.net forums, but that was a tremendous waste of valuable discussion and information once those archives were lost.

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#6
Posted 05/04/2019 04:59 AM   
Thats plausible. Since Ive always found the causes by myself in past and if its across all users then it wouldnt look out of ordinary. Had more then a few users realize they had "free" ftps in past. I guess Ill just check back in it a month or two. Its not like I am eating into my pocket - yet. Edit: I think you might be right cause I paid $12 on one day. though I have no idea how 1 site rip could be that much or how there would be multiple on same date. Math doesnt add up to me though, 1000 fixes at average of like 5mb is like 5gb. While the usage is at like 150gb for that day. I am still leaning on the fact that someone was hosting something but it was only a day... and hopefully it wasnt illegal. [img]https://i.ibb.co/1nyF1xV/Untitled.jpg[/img] Regardless this ant worth the time or headache. Will just check back on it periodically and hope for best.
Thats plausible. Since Ive always found the causes by myself in past and if its across all users then it wouldnt look out of ordinary. Had more then a few users realize they had "free" ftps in past. I guess Ill just check back in it a month or two. Its not like I am eating into my pocket - yet.

Edit: I think you might be right cause I paid $12 on one day. though I have no idea how 1 site rip could be that much or how there would be multiple on same date. Math doesnt add up to me though, 1000 fixes at average of like 5mb is like 5gb. While the usage is at like 150gb for that day. I am still leaning on the fact that someone was hosting something but it was only a day... and hopefully it wasnt illegal.
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Regardless this ant worth the time or headache. Will just check back on it periodically and hope for best.

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#7
Posted 05/04/2019 05:12 AM   
There's this and probably more like it. Perhaps it has something to do with it. https://duniacodeapk.blogspot.com/ That is a huge single day spike, any chance it could be erroneous? Can you challenge the charge, perhaps they did something that day on their end that skewed/glitched it.
There's this and probably more like it.

Perhaps it has something to do with it.


https://duniacodeapk.blogspot.com/


That is a huge single day spike, any chance it could be erroneous? Can you challenge the charge, perhaps they did something that day on their end that skewed/glitched it.

#8
Posted 05/04/2019 06:05 AM   
As a reminder, if anyone is after a mirror of the fixes my old shader database cron job still runs every day and automatically mirrors any zip or rar (edit: 7z now added) file linked from the blog: http://valen.darkstarsword.net/3d-mirror/
As a reminder, if anyone is after a mirror of the fixes my old shader database cron job still runs every day and automatically mirrors any zip or rar (edit: 7z now added) file linked from the blog:

http://valen.darkstarsword.net/3d-mirror/

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#9
Posted 05/04/2019 07:01 AM   
Could it be related to the 3d fix manager? Yesterday I was struck by the fact that the manager's folder weighed about 3 gigabytes, and when going to check I realized that I had a backup of all the fixes of the web, (the one of watchdogs 2, for example already weighed more than one giga It's a great tool, I have nothing against it, but it's just a theory.
Could it be related to the 3d fix manager?
Yesterday I was struck by the fact that the manager's folder weighed
about 3 gigabytes, and when going to check I realized that I had a backup of all the fixes of the web, (the one of watchdogs 2, for example already weighed more than one giga
It's a great tool, I have nothing against it, but it's just a theory.

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#10
Posted 05/04/2019 07:05 PM   
Lets just ignore that now, I will need to look into it. I guess its just good that people know that, yes its still being paid for and I have plans to continue but I monitor it. If anyone wants to help cost or remind someone thats looking to donate that bandwidth has costs. Got a few donations but tbh, I kind of thought that cost/users would be plummeting but its still going up and up.$6-7ish a month isnt crazy but its been like 9ish years since first starting it. Its a bit worrying to ask for donations once if everyone eventually leaves though. Again, not a problem for this year or even next, Ive had a long stable patreon who really helped out and I saved a nest egg on that day I opened donations but I thought it would of covered a lot longer. I think I got like $600 total but when you consider that helixmod is 8.5 years old then it will sooner or later balance out. I really haven't thought about it till this incident but eventually it will eat into my own pocket. Dont want to sound like I am threatening or will ever outright take it down because I won't. I've hosted it for this many years near silently and see it as a responsibility. I really dont want to make a post on main site or add a button in a few years but I also don't want to eventually be paying for a hobby I gave up on years ago. Not really sure how to remind people while being fair to every patcher/whomever who probably got less then they deserve. Just figured Id make one last squeeze[replenish?] while people are around in case things die down. Of course this is to whomever is reading that isn't a "patcher/fixer/whatever." Maybe just name drop me or whatever if you are. [img]https://i.ibb.co/VQ0LbTh/Untitled.jpg[/img] This is an average month, just so it doesnt sound like I am making it up or whatever.
Lets just ignore that now, I will need to look into it. I guess its just good that people know that, yes its still being paid for and I have plans to continue but I monitor it.


If anyone wants to help cost or remind someone thats looking to donate that bandwidth has costs. Got a few donations but tbh, I kind of thought that cost/users would be plummeting but its still going up and up.$6-7ish a month isnt crazy but its been like 9ish years since first starting it. Its a bit worrying to ask for donations once if everyone eventually leaves though. Again, not a problem for this year or even next, Ive had a long stable patreon who really helped out and I saved a nest egg on that day I opened donations but I thought it would of covered a lot longer. I think I got like $600 total but when you consider that helixmod is 8.5 years old then it will sooner or later balance out.

I really haven't thought about it till this incident but eventually it will eat into my own pocket. Dont want to sound like I am threatening or will ever outright take it down because I won't. I've hosted it for this many years near silently and see it as a responsibility. I really dont want to make a post on main site or add a button in a few years but I also don't want to eventually be paying for a hobby I gave up on years ago. Not really sure how to remind people while being fair to every patcher/whomever who probably got less then they deserve.

Just figured Id make one last squeeze[replenish?] while people are around in case things die down. Of course this is to whomever is reading that isn't a "patcher/fixer/whatever." Maybe just name drop me or whatever if you are.

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This is an average month, just so it doesnt sound like I am making it up or whatever.

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#11
Posted 05/04/2019 08:14 PM   
Looking at the page-view stats for HelixMod itself, there is no spike in end of April for the blog as a whole. So that contradicts the idea that people were making a backup of the site or the cheater copies of the site with different names, or 3DFM. The traffic is not coming from the blog itself. So, that strongly suggests that someone in the ShaderHackers list is abusing their privileges.
Looking at the page-view stats for HelixMod itself, there is no spike in end of April for the blog as a whole. So that contradicts the idea that people were making a backup of the site or the cheater copies of the site with different names, or 3DFM. The traffic is not coming from the blog itself.

So, that strongly suggests that someone in the ShaderHackers list is abusing their privileges.

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#12
Posted 05/05/2019 12:08 AM   
Would it be possible to put all the files into a new sub-folder then quickly update the blog accordingly? That would change the URL of all the files.
Would it be possible to put all the files into a new sub-folder then quickly update the blog accordingly? That would change the URL of all the files.

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#13
Posted 05/05/2019 12:22 AM   
Lets not worry about it, who knows it could be an error. I just literally went through all users who logged in within last 45 days folders and I see nothing irregular. Its not dire "today". I just deleted all users with more then a year of disactivity as a precaution. That leaves only 13 users. It wont be hard to watch that. ----------------- @ZLOTH Tbh, moving it seems like a big hassle that no one is willing to take on that no one will want to take on [not they should have to] and they have to be extremely reliable/known/trusted and willing to take on responsibility. A lot of people offered to take over site/hosting over years and they arent here anymore. More then happy to pass on the reins but I just dont see anyone willing to make sure all the file structures are unchanged and relinking like 1000 pages. Maybe I lack imagination on how it could be easy without errors. Though if someone gets bo3b's approval - I am more then happy to pass on the reins because I am not willing to do that work.
Lets not worry about it, who knows it could be an error. I just literally went through all users who logged in within last 45 days folders and I see nothing irregular. Its not dire "today".


I just deleted all users with more then a year of disactivity as a precaution. That leaves only 13 users. It wont be hard to watch that.

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@ZLOTH
Tbh, moving it seems like a big hassle that no one is willing to take on that no one will want to take on [not they should have to] and they have to be extremely reliable/known/trusted and willing to take on responsibility. A lot of people offered to take over site/hosting over years and they arent here anymore.

More then happy to pass on the reins but I just dont see anyone willing to make sure all the file structures are unchanged and relinking like 1000 pages. Maybe I lack imagination on how it could be easy without errors.

Though if someone gets bo3b's approval - I am more then happy to pass on the reins because I am not willing to do that work.

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#14
Posted 05/05/2019 12:38 AM   
[quote="eqzitara"]Lets not worry about it, who knows it could be an error. I just literally went through all users who logged in within last 45 days folders and I see nothing irregular. Its not dire "today". I just deleted all users with more then a year of disactivity as a precaution. That leaves only 13 users. It wont be hard to watch that.[/quote]Most likely answer is that one of the ShaderHackers abused the service for a day or so to transfer a giant file or something. Locking out the stale users is a fine step. If anyone comes back and needs access you can revisit it then. Enabling monitoring of space and bandwidth to notify on big spikes would a bit better to avoid surprise bills, but takes some setup effort. [quote]----------------- @ZLOTH Tbh, moving it seems like a big hassle that no one is willing to take on that no one will want to take on [not they should have to] and they have to be extremely reliable/known/trusted and willing to take on responsibility. A lot of people offered to take over site/hosting over years and they arent here anymore. More then happy to pass on the reins but I just dont see anyone willing to make sure all the file structures are unchanged and relinking like 1000 pages. Maybe I lack imagination on how it could be easy without errors. Though if someone gets bo3b's approval - I am more then happy to pass on the reins because I am not willing to do that work.[/quote]I'm willing to be convinced by good arguments, but my current take is that it is actually running pretty well as it stands. It's always possible to move it to different hosting, I could run everything off my bo3b.net domain, DarkStarSword could run off darkstarsword.net, Helifax off 3dsurroundgaming.com. The technical aspects are not a giant challenge, it's just that there is no particularly compelling reason to do so. Making a move like this would need to meet one of two bars for me to do the work- something is fatally broken that we hate about the current setup, or some new feature in a different environment is compelling enough to pay the time cost of moving. Keeping in mind that a move to new stuff will fix some old problems like the blogspot APIs being unreliable, while introducing new and exciting problems that you cannot foresee. There's still no free lunch. We also have multiple backups of the entire site, including all the fix files. DarkStarSword has his chron job which is the most up to date and valuable, and I do a one-off wget of the entire site about once a year. Then there are all the end-users who have the fix files on their systems that we could scrounge up if needed. I feel like we are in OK shape, even including backups. But if people have problems with how it's presently structured, do please let us know. We all want it to be as good as it can be. You might be hitting problems that we otherwise don't know about. It's not perfect, but I feel like it's all meeting our needs.
eqzitara said:Lets not worry about it, who knows it could be an error. I just literally went through all users who logged in within last 45 days folders and I see nothing irregular. Its not dire "today".


I just deleted all users with more then a year of disactivity as a precaution. That leaves only 13 users. It wont be hard to watch that.
Most likely answer is that one of the ShaderHackers abused the service for a day or so to transfer a giant file or something.

Locking out the stale users is a fine step. If anyone comes back and needs access you can revisit it then. Enabling monitoring of space and bandwidth to notify on big spikes would a bit better to avoid surprise bills, but takes some setup effort.


-----------------
@ZLOTH
Tbh, moving it seems like a big hassle that no one is willing to take on that no one will want to take on [not they should have to] and they have to be extremely reliable/known/trusted and willing to take on responsibility. A lot of people offered to take over site/hosting over years and they arent here anymore.

More then happy to pass on the reins but I just dont see anyone willing to make sure all the file structures are unchanged and relinking like 1000 pages. Maybe I lack imagination on how it could be easy without errors.

Though if someone gets bo3b's approval - I am more then happy to pass on the reins because I am not willing to do that work.
I'm willing to be convinced by good arguments, but my current take is that it is actually running pretty well as it stands.

It's always possible to move it to different hosting, I could run everything off my bo3b.net domain, DarkStarSword could run off darkstarsword.net, Helifax off 3dsurroundgaming.com. The technical aspects are not a giant challenge, it's just that there is no particularly compelling reason to do so.

Making a move like this would need to meet one of two bars for me to do the work- something is fatally broken that we hate about the current setup, or some new feature in a different environment is compelling enough to pay the time cost of moving.

Keeping in mind that a move to new stuff will fix some old problems like the blogspot APIs being unreliable, while introducing new and exciting problems that you cannot foresee. There's still no free lunch.

We also have multiple backups of the entire site, including all the fix files. DarkStarSword has his chron job which is the most up to date and valuable, and I do a one-off wget of the entire site about once a year. Then there are all the end-users who have the fix files on their systems that we could scrounge up if needed. I feel like we are in OK shape, even including backups.


But if people have problems with how it's presently structured, do please let us know. We all want it to be as good as it can be. You might be hitting problems that we otherwise don't know about.

It's not perfect, but I feel like it's all meeting our needs.

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#15
Posted 05/05/2019 02:43 AM   
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