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[quote="Nintendians-2"][quote="joker18"]Chekerboard was never a standard for LG. The standard was always the line interleaved which is native for LG passive TVs. I just tested to see if it indeed has checkerboard for 1080p and my 65E6 doesn't. It only has SBS TAB and 2D/3D conversion). Nowdays many games have render scaling (i think all AAA titles have it). So you can use native resolution and render scale to 50% and you will definetly achieve better resolution than checkerboard 1080p which as far as I remember from my old set looked terible. Tridef cannot be purchased anymore. we cannot even reactivate our licences because the servers are down. [/quote] never said checkerboard was the standard for lg, it used to be a option for their 1080p 3dtv, but i guess i'll play video games with reshade+superdepth3d or native 3d built into the game or someone who makes better plugin/software without the edid hack. until nvidia start doing half side by side and half top and bottom for any resolution you want for 3dtv play, i guess i'll just play uncharted 3 on the ps3 for the trillionth time then in stereoscopic 3d. i was thinking tridef too. hopefully they came back online again. [quote="zig11727"]All 3 of Samsung 3D TVs support checkerboard and frame interlaced. [/quote] yeah, but i got bad experience with them, than lg.[/quote] The reason why most people say checkerboard sucks on Samsung is because the eye order has to be reversed when using 3DTV play checkerboard and frame interlaced.
Nintendians-2 said:
joker18 said:Chekerboard was never a standard for LG. The standard was always the line interleaved which is native for LG passive TVs.
I just tested to see if it indeed has checkerboard for 1080p and my 65E6 doesn't. It only has SBS TAB and 2D/3D conversion).

Nowdays many games have render scaling (i think all AAA titles have it). So you can use native resolution and render scale to 50% and you will definetly achieve better resolution than checkerboard 1080p which as far as I remember from my old set looked terible.

Tridef cannot be purchased anymore. we cannot even reactivate our licences because the servers are down.


never said checkerboard was the standard for lg, it used to be a option for their 1080p 3dtv, but i guess i'll play video games with reshade+superdepth3d or native 3d built into the game or someone who makes better plugin/software without the edid hack.

until nvidia start doing half side by side and half top and bottom for any resolution you want for 3dtv play, i guess i'll just play uncharted 3 on the ps3 for the trillionth time then in stereoscopic 3d.

i was thinking tridef too. hopefully they came back online again.

zig11727 said:All 3 of Samsung 3D TVs support checkerboard and frame interlaced.

yeah, but i got bad experience with them, than lg.


The reason why most people say checkerboard sucks on Samsung is because the eye order has to be reversed when using 3DTV play checkerboard and frame interlaced.

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#16
Posted 11/05/2018 10:56 PM   
[quote="Nintendians-2"] never said checkerboard was the standard for lg, it used to be a option for their 1080p 3dtv, but i guess i'll play video games with reshade+superdepth3d or native 3d built into the game or someone who makes better plugin/software without the edid hack. [/quote] I am lost here, WTF do you imagine that the Edid MOD does? It's not like its my business what you use but still I'm trying to understand what is in your head.
Nintendians-2 said:

never said checkerboard was the standard for lg, it used to be a option for their 1080p 3dtv, but i guess i'll play video games with reshade+superdepth3d or native 3d built into the game or someone who makes better plugin/software without the edid hack.


I am lost here, WTF do you imagine that the Edid MOD does?
It's not like its my business what you use but still I'm trying to understand what is in your head.

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#17
Posted 11/06/2018 06:12 AM   
[quote="joker18"][quote="Nintendians-2"] never said checkerboard was the standard for lg, it used to be a option for their 1080p 3dtv, but i guess i'll play video games with reshade+superdepth3d or native 3d built into the game or someone who makes better plugin/software without the edid hack. [/quote] I am lost here, WTF do you imagine that the Edid MOD does? It's not like its my business what you use but still I'm trying to understand what is in your head.[/quote] I can't imagine why he won't install the modded EDID. Whatever, let him use inferior methods I guess..
joker18 said:
Nintendians-2 said:

never said checkerboard was the standard for lg, it used to be a option for their 1080p 3dtv, but i guess i'll play video games with reshade+superdepth3d or native 3d built into the game or someone who makes better plugin/software without the edid hack.


I am lost here, WTF do you imagine that the Edid MOD does?
It's not like its my business what you use but still I'm trying to understand what is in your head.


I can't imagine why he won't install the modded EDID. Whatever, let him use inferior methods I guess..

#18
Posted 11/06/2018 06:52 AM   
[quote="Nintendians-2"] yeah i know and just saying uncharted 3 was the best stereoscopic 3d game i've play without any fixes, so far for stereoscopic 3d gaming.[/quote] hum good game but stereoscopic 3D is far beyond 3Dvision ready experience like Tomb Raider saga etc...
Nintendians-2 said:

yeah i know and just saying uncharted 3 was the best stereoscopic 3d game i've play without any fixes, so far for stereoscopic 3d gaming.


hum good game but stereoscopic 3D is far beyond 3Dvision ready experience like Tomb Raider saga etc...

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#19
Posted 11/06/2018 11:59 AM   
[quote="joker18"][quote="Nintendians-2"] never said checkerboard was the standard for lg, it used to be a option for their 1080p 3dtv, but i guess i'll play video games with reshade+superdepth3d or native 3d built into the game or someone who makes better plugin/software without the edid hack. [/quote] I am lost here, WTF do you imagine that the Edid MOD does? It's not like its my business what you use but still I'm trying to understand what is in your head.[/quote] remember what you said about checkerboard wasn't a standard for lg, i'm just saying it never was, not the edid mod. [quote="danjrowe27"][quote="joker18"][quote="Nintendians-2"] never said checkerboard was the standard for lg, it used to be a option for their 1080p 3dtv, but i guess i'll play video games with reshade+superdepth3d or native 3d built into the game or someone who makes better plugin/software without the edid hack. [/quote] I am lost here, WTF do you imagine that the Edid MOD does? It's not like its my business what you use but still I'm trying to understand what is in your head.[/quote] I can't imagine why he won't install the modded EDID. Whatever, let him use inferior methods I guess..[/quote] try on it my lg 3dtv 1080p one, didn't work well for me, even helix mods too. some of the emulator (when i'm testing or watching videos) can do top and bottom and side by side that could match 3d vision (nvidia just need to rethink). well i guess i'll watch 4k 3d random video cast from phone to the shield tv on a lg oled55e6p tv then. [quote="chtiblue"][quote="Nintendians-2"] yeah i know and just saying uncharted 3 was the best stereoscopic 3d game i've play without any fixes, so far for stereoscopic 3d gaming.[/quote] hum good game but stereoscopic 3D is far beyond 3Dvision ready experience like Tomb Raider saga etc...[/quote] i wish you can play uncharted 3 on the pc but that's a ps3 game (screw emulators), even it was in 720p 3d. it look great.
joker18 said:
Nintendians-2 said:

never said checkerboard was the standard for lg, it used to be a option for their 1080p 3dtv, but i guess i'll play video games with reshade+superdepth3d or native 3d built into the game or someone who makes better plugin/software without the edid hack.


I am lost here, WTF do you imagine that the Edid MOD does?
It's not like its my business what you use but still I'm trying to understand what is in your head.


remember what you said about checkerboard wasn't a standard for lg, i'm just saying it never was, not the edid mod.

danjrowe27 said:
joker18 said:
Nintendians-2 said:

never said checkerboard was the standard for lg, it used to be a option for their 1080p 3dtv, but i guess i'll play video games with reshade+superdepth3d or native 3d built into the game or someone who makes better plugin/software without the edid hack.


I am lost here, WTF do you imagine that the Edid MOD does?
It's not like its my business what you use but still I'm trying to understand what is in your head.


I can't imagine why he won't install the modded EDID. Whatever, let him use inferior methods I guess..


try on it my lg 3dtv 1080p one, didn't work well for me, even helix mods too. some of the emulator (when i'm testing or watching videos) can do top and bottom and side by side that could match 3d vision (nvidia just need to rethink). well i guess i'll watch 4k 3d random video cast from phone to the shield tv on a lg oled55e6p tv then.

chtiblue said:
Nintendians-2 said:

yeah i know and just saying uncharted 3 was the best stereoscopic 3d game i've play without any fixes, so far for stereoscopic 3d gaming.


hum good game but stereoscopic 3D is far beyond 3Dvision ready experience like Tomb Raider saga etc...


i wish you can play uncharted 3 on the pc but that's a ps3 game (screw emulators), even it was in 720p 3d. it look great.

#20
Posted 11/06/2018 03:13 PM   
Again there is no way uncharted 3D is better then 3D Vision and yes I own Uncharted 3.
Again there is no way uncharted 3D is better then 3D Vision and yes I own Uncharted 3.

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#21
Posted 11/06/2018 04:03 PM   
[quote="zig11727"]Again there is no way uncharted 3D is better then 3D Vision and yes I own Uncharted 3. [/quote] depends on the game your comparing without a fix for 3d vision.
zig11727 said:Again there is no way uncharted 3D is better then 3D Vision and yes I own Uncharted 3.



depends on the game your comparing without a fix for 3d vision.

#22
Posted 11/06/2018 04:10 PM   
Uncharted 3 had/has great 3D, with no artifacts, but the 720p resolution degraded the experience, in my opinion. I do not understand the reluctance to try one of joker18's excellent, non-destructive EDID mods for the incredible E6 display. 3840x1080 pixels per eye DOUBLES 1080p resolution, in the critically important stereo baseline axis - the horizontal axis. Note that some of the more recent helixmod.blogspot games include (reversed) Top and Bottom and line-interlaced formats directly, as a good alternative to EDID override. Because of its unnecessary resolution loss (and slightly degraded 3D) on passive displays, SBS or checkerboard 3D format should be used ONLY when no other 3D format is available...
Uncharted 3 had/has great 3D, with no artifacts, but the 720p resolution degraded the experience, in my opinion.

I do not understand the reluctance to try one of joker18's excellent, non-destructive EDID mods for the incredible E6 display. 3840x1080 pixels per eye DOUBLES 1080p resolution, in the critically important stereo baseline axis - the horizontal axis. Note that some of the more recent helixmod.blogspot games include (reversed) Top and Bottom and line-interlaced formats directly, as a good alternative to EDID override. Because of its unnecessary resolution loss (and slightly degraded 3D) on passive displays, SBS or checkerboard 3D format should be used ONLY when no other 3D format is available...

#23
Posted 11/06/2018 04:15 PM   
I have an LG 4k 3d TV with EDID mod and there is no way I would play any game any other way. there is just not comparison. this is basically using your TV to its full potential. I don't understand why would anyone would want to cripple themselves playing with inferior methods like crappy 3DTV play which has a lower resolution, darker colors, and high input lag, or Fake 3D, that stuff is fake as in not real!!And PlayStation 3D games are crap compare to 3D vision games sorry. I Own Uncharted 3 and while it might be the best playstation game in stereoscopy. It is nothing compared to play Any 3d vision game on 4k at more than 30 FPS.. Any tomb Raider game blows it out of the water. Yes Including the old ones.
I have an LG 4k 3d TV with EDID mod and there is no way I would play any game any other way. there is just not comparison. this is basically using your TV to its full potential. I don't understand why would anyone would want to cripple themselves playing with inferior methods like crappy 3DTV play which has a lower resolution, darker colors, and high input lag, or Fake 3D, that stuff is fake as in not real!!And PlayStation 3D games are crap compare to 3D vision games sorry. I Own Uncharted 3 and while it might be the best playstation game in stereoscopy. It is nothing compared to play Any 3d vision game on 4k at more than 30 FPS.. Any tomb Raider game blows it out of the water. Yes Including the old ones.

#24
Posted 11/06/2018 09:31 PM   
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#25
Posted 11/06/2018 09:45 PM   
[quote="whyme466"]Uncharted 3 had/has great 3D, with no artifacts, but the 720p resolution degraded the experience, in my opinion. I do not understand the reluctance to try one of joker18's excellent, non-destructive EDID mods for the incredible E6 display. 3840x1080 pixels per eye DOUBLES 1080p resolution, in the critically important stereo baseline axis - the horizontal axis. Note that some of the more recent helixmod.blogspot games include (reversed) Top and Bottom and line-interlaced formats directly, as a good alternative to EDID override. Because of its unnecessary resolution loss (and slightly degraded 3D) on passive displays, SBS or checkerboard 3D format should be used ONLY when no other 3D format is available... [/quote] Well that's Sony reason to tune down stereoscopic 3d, so it's not naughty dog's fault. Like I said before the edit mod doesn't work for me. [quote="sebastatu"]I have an LG 4k 3d TV with EDID mod and there is no way I would play any game any other way. there is just not comparison. this is basically using your TV to its full potential. I don't understand why would anyone would want to cripple themselves playing with inferior methods like crappy 3DTV play which has a lower resolution, darker colors, and high input lag, or Fake 3D, that stuff is fake as in not real!!And PlayStation 3D games are crap compare to 3D vision games sorry. I Own Uncharted 3 and while it might be the best playstation game in stereoscopy. It is nothing compared to play Any 3d vision game on 4k at more than 30 FPS.. Any tomb Raider game blows it out of the water. Yes Including the old ones.[/quote] I'm sure nvidia could half side by side/top and bottom in any resolution easy. Tridef and some emulator teams done it. If uncharted series was a pc game, it would've rival tomb raider in everything.
whyme466 said:Uncharted 3 had/has great 3D, with no artifacts, but the 720p resolution degraded the experience, in my opinion.

I do not understand the reluctance to try one of joker18's excellent, non-destructive EDID mods for the incredible E6 display. 3840x1080 pixels per eye DOUBLES 1080p resolution, in the critically important stereo baseline axis - the horizontal axis. Note that some of the more recent helixmod.blogspot games include (reversed) Top and Bottom and line-interlaced formats directly, as a good alternative to EDID override. Because of its unnecessary resolution loss (and slightly degraded 3D) on passive displays, SBS or checkerboard 3D format should be used ONLY when no other 3D format is available...



Well that's Sony reason to tune down stereoscopic 3d, so it's not naughty dog's fault.

Like I said before the edit mod doesn't work for me.

sebastatu said:I have an LG 4k 3d TV with EDID mod and there is no way I would play any game any other way. there is just not comparison. this is basically using your TV to its full potential. I don't understand why would anyone would want to cripple themselves playing with inferior methods like crappy 3DTV play which has a lower resolution, darker colors, and high input lag, or Fake 3D, that stuff is fake as in not real!!And PlayStation 3D games are crap compare to 3D vision games sorry. I Own Uncharted 3 and while it might be the best playstation game in stereoscopy. It is nothing compared to play Any 3d vision game on 4k at more than 30 FPS.. Any tomb Raider game blows it out of the water. Yes Including the old ones.


I'm sure nvidia could half side by side/top and bottom in any resolution easy. Tridef and some emulator teams done it. If uncharted series was a pc game, it would've rival tomb raider in everything.

#26
Posted 11/07/2018 06:38 AM   
Nintendians-2 - what do you mean when you say the EDID mod does not work for you? An EDID mod version has worked for EVERYONE with a passive LG 3D display, when properly installed. I have used various EDID versions successfully on 4 different LG models over time , including 2 different OLED models. Have you even tried a recent game like Vampyr, using the default Generic monitor EDID (no mod) with reversed TaB or line-interlaced formats (you may need to change 3DMigoto display setting in .ini file)?
Nintendians-2 - what do you mean when you say the EDID mod does not work for you? An EDID mod version has worked for EVERYONE with a passive LG 3D display, when properly installed. I have used various EDID versions successfully on 4 different LG models over time , including 2 different OLED models.

Have you even tried a recent game like Vampyr, using the default Generic monitor EDID (no mod) with reversed TaB or line-interlaced formats (you may need to change 3DMigoto display setting in .ini file)?

#27
Posted 11/07/2018 01:19 PM   
[quote="whyme466"]Nintendians-2 - what do you mean when you say the EDID mod does not work for you? An EDID mod version has worked for EVERYONE with a passive LG 3D display, when properly installed. I have used various EDID versions successfully on 4 different LG models over time , including 2 different OLED models. Have you even tried a recent game like Vampyr, using the default Generic monitor EDID (no mod) with reversed TaB or line-interlaced formats (you may need to change 3DMigoto display setting in .ini file)?[/quote] tried some, went all the way, but some how it doesn't work for me. i tried testing it with resident evil 6, but it up crashing anyway.
whyme466 said:Nintendians-2 - what do you mean when you say the EDID mod does not work for you? An EDID mod version has worked for EVERYONE with a passive LG 3D display, when properly installed. I have used various EDID versions successfully on 4 different LG models over time , including 2 different OLED models.

Have you even tried a recent game like Vampyr, using the default Generic monitor EDID (no mod) with reversed TaB or line-interlaced formats (you may need to change 3DMigoto display setting in .ini file)?


tried some, went all the way, but some how it doesn't work for me.

i tried testing it with resident evil 6, but it up crashing anyway.

#28
Posted 11/07/2018 03:57 PM   
[quote="Nintendians-2"][quote="whyme466"]Uncharted 3 had/has great 3D, with no artifacts, but the 720p resolution degraded the experience, in my opinion. I do not understand the reluctance to try one of joker18's excellent, non-destructive EDID mods for the incredible E6 display. 3840x1080 pixels per eye DOUBLES 1080p resolution, in the critically important stereo baseline axis - the horizontal axis. Note that some of the more recent helixmod.blogspot games include (reversed) Top and Bottom and line-interlaced formats directly, as a good alternative to EDID override. Because of its unnecessary resolution loss (and slightly degraded 3D) on passive displays, SBS or checkerboard 3D format should be used ONLY when no other 3D format is available... [/quote] Well that's Sony reason to tune down stereoscopic 3d, so it's not naughty dog's fault. Like I said before the edit mod doesn't work for me. [quote="sebastatu"]I have an LG 4k 3d TV with EDID mod and there is no way I would play any game any other way. there is just not comparison. this is basically using your TV to its full potential. I don't understand why would anyone would want to cripple themselves playing with inferior methods like crappy 3DTV play which has a lower resolution, darker colors, and high input lag, or Fake 3D, that stuff is fake as in not real!!And PlayStation 3D games are crap compare to 3D vision games sorry. I Own Uncharted 3 and while it might be the best playstation game in stereoscopy. It is nothing compared to play Any 3d vision game on 4k at more than 30 FPS.. Any tomb Raider game blows it out of the water. Yes Including the old ones.[/quote] I'm sure nvidia could half side by side/top and bottom in any resolution easy. Tridef and some emulator teams done it. If uncharted series was a pc game, it would've rival tomb raider in everything.[/quote] I'm not talking about game quality between the two. I'm just referring to how good 3d quality looks. PlayStation 3D implantation is subpar. Mediocre at best. Low resolution and you can't adjust Convergence and depth to acceptable levels. This even WORSE on a passive 3d tv like the one you have. Because the game runs at 720p for 3D and you loose half of the horizontal pixels it ends up looking like a WII game @ 480p on a 4k TV!!! What is the point? 3Dmigoto already offers sbs so you can use this on some dx11 games. But then again you will be hindering your TV. you'll be looking a darker colors because you will have to activate your 3d mode, (which you dont have to do if you use the EDID mod) and again you will be looking at lower resolution which gets even more degraded when you use your passive glasses and lose more pixels. Point is if you arent using an active 3D I wouldn't bother with sbs for games. So again. You are doing yourself a disservice by not using your TV's full potential.
Nintendians-2 said:
whyme466 said:Uncharted 3 had/has great 3D, with no artifacts, but the 720p resolution degraded the experience, in my opinion.

I do not understand the reluctance to try one of joker18's excellent, non-destructive EDID mods for the incredible E6 display. 3840x1080 pixels per eye DOUBLES 1080p resolution, in the critically important stereo baseline axis - the horizontal axis. Note that some of the more recent helixmod.blogspot games include (reversed) Top and Bottom and line-interlaced formats directly, as a good alternative to EDID override. Because of its unnecessary resolution loss (and slightly degraded 3D) on passive displays, SBS or checkerboard 3D format should be used ONLY when no other 3D format is available...







Well that's Sony reason to tune down stereoscopic 3d, so it's not naughty dog's fault.

Like I said before the edit mod doesn't work for me.

sebastatu said:I have an LG 4k 3d TV with EDID mod and there is no way I would play any game any other way. there is just not comparison. this is basically using your TV to its full potential. I don't understand why would anyone would want to cripple themselves playing with inferior methods like crappy 3DTV play which has a lower resolution, darker colors, and high input lag, or Fake 3D, that stuff is fake as in not real!!And PlayStation 3D games are crap compare to 3D vision games sorry. I Own Uncharted 3 and while it might be the best playstation game in stereoscopy. It is nothing compared to play Any 3d vision game on 4k at more than 30 FPS.. Any tomb Raider game blows it out of the water. Yes Including the old ones.


I'm sure nvidia could half side by side/top and bottom in any resolution easy. Tridef and some emulator teams done it. If uncharted series was a pc game, it would've rival tomb raider in everything.




I'm not talking about game quality between the two. I'm just referring to how good 3d quality looks. PlayStation 3D implantation is subpar. Mediocre at best. Low resolution and you can't adjust Convergence and depth to acceptable levels. This even WORSE on a passive 3d tv like the one you have. Because the game runs at 720p for 3D and you loose half of the horizontal pixels it ends up looking like a WII game @ 480p on a 4k TV!!! What is the point?

3Dmigoto already offers sbs so you can use this on some dx11 games. But then again you will be hindering your TV. you'll be looking a darker colors because you will have to activate your 3d mode, (which you dont have to do if you use the EDID mod) and again you will be looking at lower resolution which gets even more degraded when you use your passive glasses and lose more pixels. Point is if you arent using an active 3D I wouldn't bother with sbs for games.

So again. You are doing yourself a disservice by not using your TV's full potential.

#29
Posted 11/07/2018 06:18 PM   
    I played Silent Hill: Downpour on Xbox with 3D and it was pretty much movie quality with occasional good 3D (i.e. [intentional?] better depth here and there). Overall it was an OK experience. IIRC the resolution it had was something to get used to, like you were saying.
    I played Silent Hill: Downpour on Xbox with 3D and it was pretty much movie quality with occasional good 3D (i.e. [intentional?] better depth here and there). Overall it was an OK experience. IIRC the resolution it had was something to get used to, like you were saying.

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#30
Posted 11/07/2018 07:39 PM   
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