I'm really looking into this, as the thought of playing NFS Shift in 3D and using the Logitech G25 is quite irresistible, but I need a few questions answered first:
1. Does this work on any Monitor/TV with 120Hz refresh or just those that Nvidia has listed?
2. Was it worth the money you bought it for, and did you buy it with the monitor?
3. Can you elaborate what 'great', 'poor', etc 3D compatibility means? Alot of reviews are saying the effect is great and stuff and obviously I can't see it so what makes a 'great' 3D effect?
Is it exactly like a 3D movie? objects pop out at you? feels like you're in the game? What makes it 'poor'? Lack of some of those things?
I'm really looking into this, as the thought of playing NFS Shift in 3D and using the Logitech G25 is quite irresistible, but I need a few questions answered first:
1. Does this work on any Monitor/TV with 120Hz refresh or just those that Nvidia has listed?
2. Was it worth the money you bought it for, and did you buy it with the monitor?
3. Can you elaborate what 'great', 'poor', etc 3D compatibility means? Alot of reviews are saying the effect is great and stuff and obviously I can't see it so what makes a 'great' 3D effect?
Is it exactly like a 3D movie? objects pop out at you? feels like you're in the game? What makes it 'poor'? Lack of some of those things?
oh lucky me, first to respond. Ok first ill answer q3. For me. poor would be a view that causes my eyes distress-can happen if not set up right-will not cause death though. The second poor 3d effect would be shallow 3d-like alot of modern 3d movies, where there is like 3 layers of 3d that work back and forth but most of the movie is still 2d-bad explaination but like that, its just shallow. NOW THE GOOOOOOD. MOST EVEYTHING ELSE IS BETTER, WAY WAY BETTER. Breath taking really. Pop out is like the icing on the cake-its good alrighty but pop out makes u say "this was sooo worth it".
I bought the monitor/glasses bundle. I was going to start with just the monitor and add glasses when i could afford them 399$ for the monitor plus tax-canada. The next day i came to my senses and went back and got the glasses. It was the last day of the promotion so i asked if they would honor the nvidia website's price and they did, even excepted my money on par with the american so i paid 234$ including tax and shipping lol. BEST DICISION I COULD HAVE MADE. Plus it doubles as my bedroom tv (for the wife). For me, it was a no brainer. For any real gamer that can afford this, its on your list of things to get just like your graphics card or cpu.
Check ur specs. I would have gotten a much larger screen if i could have. I have read the posts of some that say its like raining in ur livingroom and from what i have seen i beleave it. Bigger is better and just check the specs.
oh lucky me, first to respond. Ok first ill answer q3. For me. poor would be a view that causes my eyes distress-can happen if not set up right-will not cause death though. The second poor 3d effect would be shallow 3d-like alot of modern 3d movies, where there is like 3 layers of 3d that work back and forth but most of the movie is still 2d-bad explaination but like that, its just shallow. NOW THE GOOOOOOD. MOST EVEYTHING ELSE IS BETTER, WAY WAY BETTER. Breath taking really. Pop out is like the icing on the cake-its good alrighty but pop out makes u say "this was sooo worth it".
I bought the monitor/glasses bundle. I was going to start with just the monitor and add glasses when i could afford them 399$ for the monitor plus tax-canada. The next day i came to my senses and went back and got the glasses. It was the last day of the promotion so i asked if they would honor the nvidia website's price and they did, even excepted my money on par with the american so i paid 234$ including tax and shipping lol. BEST DICISION I COULD HAVE MADE. Plus it doubles as my bedroom tv (for the wife). For me, it was a no brainer. For any real gamer that can afford this, its on your list of things to get just like your graphics card or cpu.
Check ur specs. I would have gotten a much larger screen if i could have. I have read the posts of some that say its like raining in ur livingroom and from what i have seen i beleave it. Bigger is better and just check the specs.
As for if it works with all 120 hz mons I am not sure as I bought the samsung one listed. Was it worth the £400? Yea damn straight it was IF you have £400 to spend and your pc doesn not need an upgrade.
With the ratings Excellent, great and poor. This takes into account ghosting, objects not being shown correctly in 3d and other objects and some texts being shown in 2d along with general lighting and flaws in 3d..
For example Tomb raider Underworld is just damn sexy and its like you could reach inside your monitor and pull her out. Along with HL2 and many other gmes that trully are excellent. I have tested MANY games now and I can honestly say a heck of alot of them work extremely well. Even mmos like WOW and LOTRO and WARHAMMER ONLINE work VERY well.
Back to NFS shift tho, I downloaded the demo and tried it, it looks very nice and has some nice 3d but the cars look a little toyish in 3d but I still think its looks good.
Is it like a 3d movie?. Well some games yea items honestly come out of the screen but mostly you get the feel of Huge depth, it just makes games that much better and I am finding myself playing games I had finished before and am now doing again just because they look so good in 3d.
I have tried alot of things in the past from Virtual reality headsets, to edimensional glasses years ago, and these from Nividia beat the crap out of all before it. Again its alot of money so if you can't afford £400 for glasses and Mon without breaking the bank then wait, if you have it spare then buy it NOW.
As for if it works with all 120 hz mons I am not sure as I bought the samsung one listed. Was it worth the £400? Yea damn straight it was IF you have £400 to spend and your pc doesn not need an upgrade.
With the ratings Excellent, great and poor. This takes into account ghosting, objects not being shown correctly in 3d and other objects and some texts being shown in 2d along with general lighting and flaws in 3d..
For example Tomb raider Underworld is just damn sexy and its like you could reach inside your monitor and pull her out. Along with HL2 and many other gmes that trully are excellent. I have tested MANY games now and I can honestly say a heck of alot of them work extremely well. Even mmos like WOW and LOTRO and WARHAMMER ONLINE work VERY well.
Back to NFS shift tho, I downloaded the demo and tried it, it looks very nice and has some nice 3d but the cars look a little toyish in 3d but I still think its looks good.
Is it like a 3d movie?. Well some games yea items honestly come out of the screen but mostly you get the feel of Huge depth, it just makes games that much better and I am finding myself playing games I had finished before and am now doing again just because they look so good in 3d.
I have tried alot of things in the past from Virtual reality headsets, to edimensional glasses years ago, and these from Nividia beat the crap out of all before it. Again its alot of money so if you can't afford £400 for glasses and Mon without breaking the bank then wait, if you have it spare then buy it NOW.
[quote name='Gofishus' post='590063' date='Sep 20 2009, 12:07 PM']I'm really looking into this, as the thought of playing NFS Shift in 3D and using the Logitech G25 is quite irresistible, but I need a few questions answered first:
1. Does this work on any Monitor/TV with 120Hz refresh or just those that Nvidia has listed?
2. Was it worth the money you bought it for, and did you buy it with the monitor?
3. Can you elaborate what 'great', 'poor', etc 3D compatibility means? Alot of reviews are saying the effect is great and stuff and obviously I can't see it so what makes a 'great' 3D effect?
Is it exactly like a 3D movie? objects pop out at you? feels like you're in the game? What makes it 'poor'? Lack of some of those things?
Thanks for your time =)[/quote]
1.) I believe it only works with nvidia approved tv's and monitors. Don't go near the viewsonic lcd monitor - pure garbage.
2.) No it was not worth the money, yes I bought the Samsung monitor with it.
3.) When a game works, it's pretty nice, the 3D is snazzy. That's great. What's poor is EVERY game will suffer from ghosting when pushed up passed the 15% depth - and trust me 15% depth, "ain't nothin". Many games are considered "supported" and "good", but they play with tons of graphical errors, best case of this is Crysis.
It's a novelty, it's something cool to play with, but like all novelties, it wears off quickly. At least it did for me. Especially considering the down right insulting lack of support through drivers lately from nvidia. No new game profiles, no fixes to previous games with errors, nothing. Zip. Zilch. Nada.
It seems they've all but given up on it as well. /thumbsdown.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':thumbsdown:' />
If I were you, I'd say save your money till 3D is more perfected ...probably when the next gen consoles hit. Right now your paying $500 bucks to be a beta tester, guinea pig whose left in the dark with little to no support from Andrew or any one else @ nvidia. Andrew means well, but nothing "he's looking into" ever really gets fixed, they kind of say yeah, yeah, yeah ok, to shut you up and then nothing is ever spoken of it again.
Then let's not even get me started on the lack of upcoming games supported....Resident Evil 5 seems like a rarity, not a trend.
[quote name='Gofishus' post='590063' date='Sep 20 2009, 12:07 PM']I'm really looking into this, as the thought of playing NFS Shift in 3D and using the Logitech G25 is quite irresistible, but I need a few questions answered first:
1. Does this work on any Monitor/TV with 120Hz refresh or just those that Nvidia has listed?
2. Was it worth the money you bought it for, and did you buy it with the monitor?
3. Can you elaborate what 'great', 'poor', etc 3D compatibility means? Alot of reviews are saying the effect is great and stuff and obviously I can't see it so what makes a 'great' 3D effect?
Is it exactly like a 3D movie? objects pop out at you? feels like you're in the game? What makes it 'poor'? Lack of some of those things?
Thanks for your time =)
1.) I believe it only works with nvidia approved tv's and monitors. Don't go near the viewsonic lcd monitor - pure garbage.
2.) No it was not worth the money, yes I bought the Samsung monitor with it.
3.) When a game works, it's pretty nice, the 3D is snazzy. That's great. What's poor is EVERY game will suffer from ghosting when pushed up passed the 15% depth - and trust me 15% depth, "ain't nothin". Many games are considered "supported" and "good", but they play with tons of graphical errors, best case of this is Crysis.
It's a novelty, it's something cool to play with, but like all novelties, it wears off quickly. At least it did for me. Especially considering the down right insulting lack of support through drivers lately from nvidia. No new game profiles, no fixes to previous games with errors, nothing. Zip. Zilch. Nada.
It seems they've all but given up on it as well. /thumbsdown.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':thumbsdown:' />
If I were you, I'd say save your money till 3D is more perfected ...probably when the next gen consoles hit. Right now your paying $500 bucks to be a beta tester, guinea pig whose left in the dark with little to no support from Andrew or any one else @ nvidia. Andrew means well, but nothing "he's looking into" ever really gets fixed, they kind of say yeah, yeah, yeah ok, to shut you up and then nothing is ever spoken of it again.
Then let's not even get me started on the lack of upcoming games supported....Resident Evil 5 seems like a rarity, not a trend.
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the pc games are now being supported directly by nvidia using their tools to optimize the new games coming out
along with driver updates which might fix older games , the older games are emulated by the driver instead of having programming already in them with 3d in mind , so the newer games should play and look much better.
RE5 was the first game with 3d in mind and it looks and plays absolutely stunning , like your there , although little popout.
Nvidia`s 3d tech is the best tech out there right now hands down though , and ghosting isnt too bad depending on your settings such as depth and convergence , also if your using a monitor or a 3d hdtv with more than 40 inches.
Ghosting seems to be not as bad on higher screens but also settings in the nvidia control panel can determine how bad ghosting is .
in my dlp setup i have barely any ghosting , and on older games i can make it so they are barely there , and to me its totally ignorable , but thats just my opinion.
the pc games are now being supported directly by nvidia using their tools to optimize the new games coming out
along with driver updates which might fix older games , the older games are emulated by the driver instead of having programming already in them with 3d in mind , so the newer games should play and look much better.
RE5 was the first game with 3d in mind and it looks and plays absolutely stunning , like your there , although little popout.
Nvidia`s 3d tech is the best tech out there right now hands down though , and ghosting isnt too bad depending on your settings such as depth and convergence , also if your using a monitor or a 3d hdtv with more than 40 inches.
Ghosting seems to be not as bad on higher screens but also settings in the nvidia control panel can determine how bad ghosting is .
in my dlp setup i have barely any ghosting , and on older games i can make it so they are barely there , and to me its totally ignorable , but thats just my opinion.
the pc games are now being supported directly by nvidia using their tools to optimize the new games coming out
along with driver updates which might fix older games , the older games are emulated by the driver instead of having programming already in them with 3d in mind , so the newer games should play and look much better.
RE5 was the first game with 3d in mind and it looks and plays absolutely stunning , like your there , although little popout.
Nvidia`s 3d tech is the best tech out there right now hands down though , and ghosting isnt too bad depending on your settings such as depth and convergence , also if your using a monitor or a 3d hdtv with more than 40 inches.
Ghosting seems to be not as bad on higher screens but also settings in the nvidia control panel can determine how bad ghosting is .
in my dlp setup i have barely any ghosting , and on older games i can make it so they are barely there , and to me its totally ignorable , but thats just my opinion.[/quote]
the pc games are now being supported directly by nvidia using their tools to optimize the new games coming out
along with driver updates which might fix older games , the older games are emulated by the driver instead of having programming already in them with 3d in mind , so the newer games should play and look much better.
RE5 was the first game with 3d in mind and it looks and plays absolutely stunning , like your there , although little popout.
Nvidia`s 3d tech is the best tech out there right now hands down though , and ghosting isnt too bad depending on your settings such as depth and convergence , also if your using a monitor or a 3d hdtv with more than 40 inches.
Ghosting seems to be not as bad on higher screens but also settings in the nvidia control panel can determine how bad ghosting is .
in my dlp setup i have barely any ghosting , and on older games i can make it so they are barely there , and to me its totally ignorable , but thats just my opinion.
[quote name='Frag of Fury' post='590179' date='Sep 21 2009, 01:45 AM']1.) I believe it only works with nvidia approved tv's and monitors. Don't go near the viewsonic lcd monitor - pure garbage.
2.) No it was not worth the money, yes I bought the Samsung monitor with it.
3.) When a game works, it's pretty nice, the 3D is snazzy. That's great. What's poor is EVERY game will suffer from ghosting when pushed up passed the 15% depth - and trust me 15% depth, "ain't nothin". Many games are considered "supported" and "good", but they play with tons of graphical errors, best case of this is Crysis.
It's a novelty, it's something cool to play with, but like all novelties, it wears off quickly. At least it did for me. Especially considering the down right insulting lack of support through drivers lately from nvidia. No new game profiles, no fixes to previous games with errors, nothing. Zip. Zilch. Nada.
It seems they've all but given up on it as well. /thumbsdown.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':thumbsdown:' />
If I were you, I'd say save your money till 3D is more perfected ...probably when the next gen consoles hit. Right now your paying $500 bucks to be a beta tester, guinea pig whose left in the dark with little to no support from Andrew or any one else @ nvidia. Andrew means well, but nothing "he's looking into" ever really gets fixed, they kind of say yeah, yeah, yeah ok, to shut you up and then nothing is ever spoken of it again.
Then let's not even get me started on the lack of upcoming games supported....Resident Evil 5 seems like a rarity, not a trend.[/quote]
Strange as I dont seem to have anywhere near the problems you have and I am way way past 15% depth. So Maybe its you or your configuation. Better to check that beffore you speak for everyone about problems we dont all have. As I sem to think its well worth the money..
Also you have managed to point out the worst case of a game not working very well by saying crysis and using that as an example for all. This is not true, yea Crysis is not that good but so Many games are. Ie..
Tomb Raider Underworld= epic
LFD2= sweet
Fallout3= sweet
Age of empires 3 =epic
I have tested prob 20 games now including some mmo's and yea some are not that good but as for the most part I am more than happy and most play well.
Quick edit. If you had a good mon before as I did, then when I sold it the new mon only cost me half as much and is even better so this was a good upgrade anyway. Nvidia are not selling the monitors they are selling the glasses for £110 where I am so thats not alot to pay. Would it be there fault if your chip was not high enough to play the games aswell??
[quote name='Frag of Fury' post='590179' date='Sep 21 2009, 01:45 AM']1.) I believe it only works with nvidia approved tv's and monitors. Don't go near the viewsonic lcd monitor - pure garbage.
2.) No it was not worth the money, yes I bought the Samsung monitor with it.
3.) When a game works, it's pretty nice, the 3D is snazzy. That's great. What's poor is EVERY game will suffer from ghosting when pushed up passed the 15% depth - and trust me 15% depth, "ain't nothin". Many games are considered "supported" and "good", but they play with tons of graphical errors, best case of this is Crysis.
It's a novelty, it's something cool to play with, but like all novelties, it wears off quickly. At least it did for me. Especially considering the down right insulting lack of support through drivers lately from nvidia. No new game profiles, no fixes to previous games with errors, nothing. Zip. Zilch. Nada.
It seems they've all but given up on it as well. /thumbsdown.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':thumbsdown:' />
If I were you, I'd say save your money till 3D is more perfected ...probably when the next gen consoles hit. Right now your paying $500 bucks to be a beta tester, guinea pig whose left in the dark with little to no support from Andrew or any one else @ nvidia. Andrew means well, but nothing "he's looking into" ever really gets fixed, they kind of say yeah, yeah, yeah ok, to shut you up and then nothing is ever spoken of it again.
Then let's not even get me started on the lack of upcoming games supported....Resident Evil 5 seems like a rarity, not a trend.
Strange as I dont seem to have anywhere near the problems you have and I am way way past 15% depth. So Maybe its you or your configuation. Better to check that beffore you speak for everyone about problems we dont all have. As I sem to think its well worth the money..
Also you have managed to point out the worst case of a game not working very well by saying crysis and using that as an example for all. This is not true, yea Crysis is not that good but so Many games are. Ie..
Tomb Raider Underworld= epic
LFD2= sweet
Fallout3= sweet
Age of empires 3 =epic
I have tested prob 20 games now including some mmo's and yea some are not that good but as for the most part I am more than happy and most play well.
Quick edit. If you had a good mon before as I did, then when I sold it the new mon only cost me half as much and is even better so this was a good upgrade anyway. Nvidia are not selling the monitors they are selling the glasses for £110 where I am so thats not alot to pay. Would it be there fault if your chip was not high enough to play the games aswell??
[quote name='Gofishus' post='590063' date='Sep 20 2009, 05:07 PM']I'm really looking into this, as the thought of playing NFS Shift in 3D and using the Logitech G25 is quite irresistible, but I need a few questions answered first:
1. Does this work on any Monitor/TV with 120Hz refresh or just those that Nvidia has listed?
2. Was it worth the money you bought it for, and did you buy it with the monitor?
3. Can you elaborate what 'great', 'poor', etc 3D compatibility means? Alot of reviews are saying the effect is great and stuff and obviously I can't see it so what makes a 'great' 3D effect?
Is it exactly like a 3D movie? objects pop out at you? feels like you're in the game? What makes it 'poor'? Lack of some of those things?
Thanks for your time =)[/quote]
1. I brought mine at Tiger and the sellsperson told me that one of the customer brought a 120" TV along with 3d vision and have to return the product because it doesn't work. So try at your own risk of having to return your 120 TV.
2. the samsung LCD is a bit expensive, but worth the price as it gives sharper pictures. The glasses itself gives you the 3d feeling, it is not expensive and I like it.
3. When it comes to 3d, things are very different. Things that you don't pay attention become very big. Say mouse pointer for example. It is always on top of the things on a 2d view, yet it isn't the case in the 3d world. If you set deep depth than you will have difficulty clicking on stuff if the mouse reminds in 2d. HUD is another thing that cause problem. It will cut through a 3d object which prevents the 3d feeling. WoW allows custom HUD so you can reduce the size of the viewport and place all HUD alway from the viewport to avoid collusion and it has a 3d pointer so the pointer is always on top of objects, which makes it "Excellent."
Now a 3d picture looks awkward if things are not at the right perspective. For example say the picture is a person in 3d. If the environment is 3d but the person reminds in 2d, or the person is in 3d but the clothes are in 2d, then the entire picture looks awkward. Those are "Poor."
If things that doesn't render properly in the 3d world can be turn off, then it will be rated "Good" because you can turn those off. Shadow is one of the things that causes problem in most games i have played. I haven't try RE5 though.
It is exactly like 3d movie and things to appears closer to you then your LCD, but things won't jump out of your LCD onto your table. Nothing will show beyond the 22" viewport. Movie theaters has very big screen and further from the audience compare to your LCD. Say your LCD is 10 ft away from you, then you only have about 5 feet of 3d stuffs in front of you. If you stand 50 feet away, then you real see things popping out of your screen. Remember, things will only pop closer to you, but not out of the screen.
[quote name='Gofishus' post='590063' date='Sep 20 2009, 05:07 PM']I'm really looking into this, as the thought of playing NFS Shift in 3D and using the Logitech G25 is quite irresistible, but I need a few questions answered first:
1. Does this work on any Monitor/TV with 120Hz refresh or just those that Nvidia has listed?
2. Was it worth the money you bought it for, and did you buy it with the monitor?
3. Can you elaborate what 'great', 'poor', etc 3D compatibility means? Alot of reviews are saying the effect is great and stuff and obviously I can't see it so what makes a 'great' 3D effect?
Is it exactly like a 3D movie? objects pop out at you? feels like you're in the game? What makes it 'poor'? Lack of some of those things?
Thanks for your time =)
1. I brought mine at Tiger and the sellsperson told me that one of the customer brought a 120" TV along with 3d vision and have to return the product because it doesn't work. So try at your own risk of having to return your 120 TV.
2. the samsung LCD is a bit expensive, but worth the price as it gives sharper pictures. The glasses itself gives you the 3d feeling, it is not expensive and I like it.
3. When it comes to 3d, things are very different. Things that you don't pay attention become very big. Say mouse pointer for example. It is always on top of the things on a 2d view, yet it isn't the case in the 3d world. If you set deep depth than you will have difficulty clicking on stuff if the mouse reminds in 2d. HUD is another thing that cause problem. It will cut through a 3d object which prevents the 3d feeling. WoW allows custom HUD so you can reduce the size of the viewport and place all HUD alway from the viewport to avoid collusion and it has a 3d pointer so the pointer is always on top of objects, which makes it "Excellent."
Now a 3d picture looks awkward if things are not at the right perspective. For example say the picture is a person in 3d. If the environment is 3d but the person reminds in 2d, or the person is in 3d but the clothes are in 2d, then the entire picture looks awkward. Those are "Poor."
If things that doesn't render properly in the 3d world can be turn off, then it will be rated "Good" because you can turn those off. Shadow is one of the things that causes problem in most games i have played. I haven't try RE5 though.
It is exactly like 3d movie and things to appears closer to you then your LCD, but things won't jump out of your LCD onto your table. Nothing will show beyond the 22" viewport. Movie theaters has very big screen and further from the audience compare to your LCD. Say your LCD is 10 ft away from you, then you only have about 5 feet of 3d stuffs in front of you. If you stand 50 feet away, then you real see things popping out of your screen. Remember, things will only pop closer to you, but not out of the screen.
That is my 2 cents.
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It is exactly like 3d movie and things to appears closer to you then your LCD, but things won't jump out of your LCD onto your table. Nothing will show beyond the 22" viewport. Movie theaters has very big screen and further from the audience compare to your LCD. Say your LCD is 10 ft away from you, then you only have about 5 feet of 3d stuffs in front of you. If you stand 50 feet away, then you real see things popping out of your screen. Remember, things will only pop closer to you, but not out of the screen.
That is my 2 cents.[/quote]
Not being rude but I am not entirely sure what you said here, "if 10ft away then 5ft of stuff in front of you"?, then "Remember, things will only pop closer to you, but not out of the screen"? I have games that do pop out of screen, ie parts of Wow ( had an amazing staff with orb spiining out of my screen) does from time to time along with aspects of AOE3 and certain other games.
Just asking if you could be more descriptive on what you are saying??
Regards
It is exactly like 3d movie and things to appears closer to you then your LCD, but things won't jump out of your LCD onto your table. Nothing will show beyond the 22" viewport. Movie theaters has very big screen and further from the audience compare to your LCD. Say your LCD is 10 ft away from you, then you only have about 5 feet of 3d stuffs in front of you. If you stand 50 feet away, then you real see things popping out of your screen. Remember, things will only pop closer to you, but not out of the screen.
That is my 2 cents.
Not being rude but I am not entirely sure what you said here, "if 10ft away then 5ft of stuff in front of you"?, then "Remember, things will only pop closer to you, but not out of the screen"? I have games that do pop out of screen, ie parts of Wow ( had an amazing staff with orb spiining out of my screen) does from time to time along with aspects of AOE3 and certain other games.
Just asking if you could be more descriptive on what you are saying??
[quote name='peteski123' post='590453' date='Sep 21 2009, 05:46 PM']Not being rude but I am not entirely sure what you said here, "if 10ft away then 5ft of stuff in front of you"?, then "Remember, things will only pop closer to you, but not out of the screen"? I have games that do pop out of screen, ie parts of Wow ( had an amazing staff with orb spiining out of my screen) does from time to time along with aspects of AOE3 and certain other games.
Just asking if you could be more descriptive on what you are saying??
Regards[/quote]
It may be me, but try to put your finger in front of your eyes and start to move it closer towards your eyes and see how close can you get your finger towards your eyes before you just can't see one finger. You will see that you really need to try to see your finger as your eyes ain't used to focus on things that close to your face. I do know that some people can do it with ease, but not me.
My 10 feet crap is way off. My monitor is not 10 feet away from me, more like 3 feet, and I can't see a single image within a foot unless i really focus on it. My point is the "towards you" effect is much bigger when the monitor is very far from you, but since the monitor is relatively close, the effect is not as big as the one you see in threaters.
Some of the ads have rockets fly off the edge of the monitor. This can not happen, but the only way to describe 3d in 2d. You will not see pictures popping off the edge of the monitor, however, they may appear closer to you than the monitor. For example again, image may appear 2 feet away from you where the monitor is actually 4 feet away.
I play wow too, but if I set the depth level too high, then the character at the char select screen will simply become 2 images. I will have to move back to see that because the image focus point is actually more than 3 feet. You know what I mean if you have 3d vision, but people without it will have no idea what i am typing about.
I have seen reviews where people complaining that things don't really come out of screen and it does not make youtube vids go 3d.
I already tried my best to describe it, my english can only deliver this much.
[quote name='peteski123' post='590453' date='Sep 21 2009, 05:46 PM']Not being rude but I am not entirely sure what you said here, "if 10ft away then 5ft of stuff in front of you"?, then "Remember, things will only pop closer to you, but not out of the screen"? I have games that do pop out of screen, ie parts of Wow ( had an amazing staff with orb spiining out of my screen) does from time to time along with aspects of AOE3 and certain other games.
Just asking if you could be more descriptive on what you are saying??
Regards
It may be me, but try to put your finger in front of your eyes and start to move it closer towards your eyes and see how close can you get your finger towards your eyes before you just can't see one finger. You will see that you really need to try to see your finger as your eyes ain't used to focus on things that close to your face. I do know that some people can do it with ease, but not me.
My 10 feet crap is way off. My monitor is not 10 feet away from me, more like 3 feet, and I can't see a single image within a foot unless i really focus on it. My point is the "towards you" effect is much bigger when the monitor is very far from you, but since the monitor is relatively close, the effect is not as big as the one you see in threaters.
Some of the ads have rockets fly off the edge of the monitor. This can not happen, but the only way to describe 3d in 2d. You will not see pictures popping off the edge of the monitor, however, they may appear closer to you than the monitor. For example again, image may appear 2 feet away from you where the monitor is actually 4 feet away.
I play wow too, but if I set the depth level too high, then the character at the char select screen will simply become 2 images. I will have to move back to see that because the image focus point is actually more than 3 feet. You know what I mean if you have 3d vision, but people without it will have no idea what i am typing about.
I have seen reviews where people complaining that things don't really come out of screen and it does not make youtube vids go 3d.
I already tried my best to describe it, my english can only deliver this much.
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[quote name='Novaace' post='590874' date='Sep 22 2009, 06:49 PM']It may be me, but try to put your finger in front of your eyes and start to move it closer towards your eyes and see how close can you get your finger towards your eyes before you just can't see one finger. You will see that you really need to try to see your finger as your eyes ain't used to focus on things that close to your face. I do know that some people can do it with ease, but not me.
My 10 feet crap is way off. My monitor is not 10 feet away from me, more like 3 feet, and I can't see a single image within a foot unless i really focus on it. My point is the "towards you" effect is much bigger when the monitor is very far from you, but since the monitor is relatively close, the effect is not as big as the one you see in threaters.
Some of the ads have rockets fly off the edge of the monitor. This can not happen, but the only way to describe 3d in 2d. You will not see pictures popping off the edge of the monitor, however, they may appear closer to you than the monitor. For example again, image may appear 2 feet away from you where the monitor is actually 4 feet away.
I play wow too, but if I set the depth level too high, then the character at the char select screen will simply become 2 images. I will have to move back to see that because the image focus point is actually more than 3 feet. You know what I mean if you have 3d vision, but people without it will have no idea what i am typing about.
I have seen reviews where people complaining that things don't really come out of screen and it does not make youtube vids go 3d.
I already tried my best to describe it, my english can only deliver this much.[/quote]
I understand that mostly the games give depth, the illusion of 3d. yet a few aspects of certain games can also give the illusion that the object is actualy comming out of the screen, as I said before with wow char and his armour and weps.
I feel some people either dont have settings working properly or as you said some people can see things easier than others. All I can say is that I often see things popping out of my screen but MAINLY its all about the illusion of depth in a game that makes it look like you can reach into your monitor and pull out things, like its all in say a dolls house, or if you are playing an RST its like the minitures people build and place on a mock battlefield and you can just pick them up (looks wise)
Either way I am very happy with them and it makes for a most enjoyable gaming experience.
Regards
[quote name='Novaace' post='590874' date='Sep 22 2009, 06:49 PM']It may be me, but try to put your finger in front of your eyes and start to move it closer towards your eyes and see how close can you get your finger towards your eyes before you just can't see one finger. You will see that you really need to try to see your finger as your eyes ain't used to focus on things that close to your face. I do know that some people can do it with ease, but not me.
My 10 feet crap is way off. My monitor is not 10 feet away from me, more like 3 feet, and I can't see a single image within a foot unless i really focus on it. My point is the "towards you" effect is much bigger when the monitor is very far from you, but since the monitor is relatively close, the effect is not as big as the one you see in threaters.
Some of the ads have rockets fly off the edge of the monitor. This can not happen, but the only way to describe 3d in 2d. You will not see pictures popping off the edge of the monitor, however, they may appear closer to you than the monitor. For example again, image may appear 2 feet away from you where the monitor is actually 4 feet away.
I play wow too, but if I set the depth level too high, then the character at the char select screen will simply become 2 images. I will have to move back to see that because the image focus point is actually more than 3 feet. You know what I mean if you have 3d vision, but people without it will have no idea what i am typing about.
I have seen reviews where people complaining that things don't really come out of screen and it does not make youtube vids go 3d.
I already tried my best to describe it, my english can only deliver this much.
I understand that mostly the games give depth, the illusion of 3d. yet a few aspects of certain games can also give the illusion that the object is actualy comming out of the screen, as I said before with wow char and his armour and weps.
I feel some people either dont have settings working properly or as you said some people can see things easier than others. All I can say is that I often see things popping out of my screen but MAINLY its all about the illusion of depth in a game that makes it look like you can reach into your monitor and pull out things, like its all in say a dolls house, or if you are playing an RST its like the minitures people build and place on a mock battlefield and you can just pick them up (looks wise)
Either way I am very happy with them and it makes for a most enjoyable gaming experience.
3D Vision is literally a completely new experience, everybody has there own ideas, but if set right (depth & convergance) you get truly spectacular results in a lot of games..
Ive only recently purchased but as others have said, its made me re-install a lot of my 'games on the shelf' just to replay them in Stereo 3D
3D Vision is literally a completely new experience, everybody has there own ideas, but if set right (depth & convergance) you get truly spectacular results in a lot of games..
Ive only recently purchased but as others have said, its made me re-install a lot of my 'games on the shelf' just to replay them in Stereo 3D
1. Does this work on any Monitor/TV with 120Hz refresh or just those that Nvidia has listed?
2. Was it worth the money you bought it for, and did you buy it with the monitor?
3. Can you elaborate what 'great', 'poor', etc 3D compatibility means? Alot of reviews are saying the effect is great and stuff and obviously I can't see it so what makes a 'great' 3D effect?
Is it exactly like a 3D movie? objects pop out at you? feels like you're in the game? What makes it 'poor'? Lack of some of those things?
Thanks for your time =)
1. Does this work on any Monitor/TV with 120Hz refresh or just those that Nvidia has listed?
2. Was it worth the money you bought it for, and did you buy it with the monitor?
3. Can you elaborate what 'great', 'poor', etc 3D compatibility means? Alot of reviews are saying the effect is great and stuff and obviously I can't see it so what makes a 'great' 3D effect?
Is it exactly like a 3D movie? objects pop out at you? feels like you're in the game? What makes it 'poor'? Lack of some of those things?
Thanks for your time =)
I bought the monitor/glasses bundle. I was going to start with just the monitor and add glasses when i could afford them 399$ for the monitor plus tax-canada. The next day i came to my senses and went back and got the glasses. It was the last day of the promotion so i asked if they would honor the nvidia website's price and they did, even excepted my money on par with the american so i paid 234$ including tax and shipping lol. BEST DICISION I COULD HAVE MADE. Plus it doubles as my bedroom tv (for the wife). For me, it was a no brainer. For any real gamer that can afford this, its on your list of things to get just like your graphics card or cpu.
Check ur specs. I would have gotten a much larger screen if i could have. I have read the posts of some that say its like raining in ur livingroom and from what i have seen i beleave it. Bigger is better and just check the specs.
I bought the monitor/glasses bundle. I was going to start with just the monitor and add glasses when i could afford them 399$ for the monitor plus tax-canada. The next day i came to my senses and went back and got the glasses. It was the last day of the promotion so i asked if they would honor the nvidia website's price and they did, even excepted my money on par with the american so i paid 234$ including tax and shipping lol. BEST DICISION I COULD HAVE MADE. Plus it doubles as my bedroom tv (for the wife). For me, it was a no brainer. For any real gamer that can afford this, its on your list of things to get just like your graphics card or cpu.
Check ur specs. I would have gotten a much larger screen if i could have. I have read the posts of some that say its like raining in ur livingroom and from what i have seen i beleave it. Bigger is better and just check the specs.
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With the ratings Excellent, great and poor. This takes into account ghosting, objects not being shown correctly in 3d and other objects and some texts being shown in 2d along with general lighting and flaws in 3d..
For example Tomb raider Underworld is just damn sexy and its like you could reach inside your monitor and pull her out. Along with HL2 and many other gmes that trully are excellent. I have tested MANY games now and I can honestly say a heck of alot of them work extremely well. Even mmos like WOW and LOTRO and WARHAMMER ONLINE work VERY well.
Back to NFS shift tho, I downloaded the demo and tried it, it looks very nice and has some nice 3d but the cars look a little toyish in 3d but I still think its looks good.
Is it like a 3d movie?. Well some games yea items honestly come out of the screen but mostly you get the feel of Huge depth, it just makes games that much better and I am finding myself playing games I had finished before and am now doing again just because they look so good in 3d.
I have tried alot of things in the past from Virtual reality headsets, to edimensional glasses years ago, and these from Nividia beat the crap out of all before it. Again its alot of money so if you can't afford £400 for glasses and Mon without breaking the bank then wait, if you have it spare then buy it NOW.
Hope this helps
With the ratings Excellent, great and poor. This takes into account ghosting, objects not being shown correctly in 3d and other objects and some texts being shown in 2d along with general lighting and flaws in 3d..
For example Tomb raider Underworld is just damn sexy and its like you could reach inside your monitor and pull her out. Along with HL2 and many other gmes that trully are excellent. I have tested MANY games now and I can honestly say a heck of alot of them work extremely well. Even mmos like WOW and LOTRO and WARHAMMER ONLINE work VERY well.
Back to NFS shift tho, I downloaded the demo and tried it, it looks very nice and has some nice 3d but the cars look a little toyish in 3d but I still think its looks good.
Is it like a 3d movie?. Well some games yea items honestly come out of the screen but mostly you get the feel of Huge depth, it just makes games that much better and I am finding myself playing games I had finished before and am now doing again just because they look so good in 3d.
I have tried alot of things in the past from Virtual reality headsets, to edimensional glasses years ago, and these from Nividia beat the crap out of all before it. Again its alot of money so if you can't afford £400 for glasses and Mon without breaking the bank then wait, if you have it spare then buy it NOW.
Hope this helps
1. Does this work on any Monitor/TV with 120Hz refresh or just those that Nvidia has listed?
2. Was it worth the money you bought it for, and did you buy it with the monitor?
3. Can you elaborate what 'great', 'poor', etc 3D compatibility means? Alot of reviews are saying the effect is great and stuff and obviously I can't see it so what makes a 'great' 3D effect?
Is it exactly like a 3D movie? objects pop out at you? feels like you're in the game? What makes it 'poor'? Lack of some of those things?
Thanks for your time =)[/quote]
1.) I believe it only works with nvidia approved tv's and monitors. Don't go near the viewsonic lcd monitor - pure garbage.
2.) No it was not worth the money, yes I bought the Samsung monitor with it.
3.) When a game works, it's pretty nice, the 3D is snazzy. That's great. What's poor is EVERY game will suffer from ghosting when pushed up passed the 15% depth - and trust me 15% depth, "ain't nothin". Many games are considered "supported" and "good", but they play with tons of graphical errors, best case of this is Crysis.
It's a novelty, it's something cool to play with, but like all novelties, it wears off quickly. At least it did for me. Especially considering the down right insulting lack of support through drivers lately from nvidia. No new game profiles, no fixes to previous games with errors, nothing. Zip. Zilch. Nada.
It seems they've all but given up on it as well.
If I were you, I'd say save your money till 3D is more perfected ...probably when the next gen consoles hit. Right now your paying $500 bucks to be a beta tester, guinea pig whose left in the dark with little to no support from Andrew or any one else @ nvidia. Andrew means well, but nothing "he's looking into" ever really gets fixed, they kind of say yeah, yeah, yeah ok, to shut you up and then nothing is ever spoken of it again.
Then let's not even get me started on the lack of upcoming games supported....Resident Evil 5 seems like a rarity, not a trend.
1. Does this work on any Monitor/TV with 120Hz refresh or just those that Nvidia has listed?
2. Was it worth the money you bought it for, and did you buy it with the monitor?
3. Can you elaborate what 'great', 'poor', etc 3D compatibility means? Alot of reviews are saying the effect is great and stuff and obviously I can't see it so what makes a 'great' 3D effect?
Is it exactly like a 3D movie? objects pop out at you? feels like you're in the game? What makes it 'poor'? Lack of some of those things?
Thanks for your time =)
1.) I believe it only works with nvidia approved tv's and monitors. Don't go near the viewsonic lcd monitor - pure garbage.
2.) No it was not worth the money, yes I bought the Samsung monitor with it.
3.) When a game works, it's pretty nice, the 3D is snazzy. That's great. What's poor is EVERY game will suffer from ghosting when pushed up passed the 15% depth - and trust me 15% depth, "ain't nothin". Many games are considered "supported" and "good", but they play with tons of graphical errors, best case of this is Crysis.
It's a novelty, it's something cool to play with, but like all novelties, it wears off quickly. At least it did for me. Especially considering the down right insulting lack of support through drivers lately from nvidia. No new game profiles, no fixes to previous games with errors, nothing. Zip. Zilch. Nada.
It seems they've all but given up on it as well.
If I were you, I'd say save your money till 3D is more perfected ...probably when the next gen consoles hit. Right now your paying $500 bucks to be a beta tester, guinea pig whose left in the dark with little to no support from Andrew or any one else @ nvidia. Andrew means well, but nothing "he's looking into" ever really gets fixed, they kind of say yeah, yeah, yeah ok, to shut you up and then nothing is ever spoken of it again.
Then let's not even get me started on the lack of upcoming games supported....Resident Evil 5 seems like a rarity, not a trend.
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the pc games are now being supported directly by nvidia using their tools to optimize the new games coming out
along with driver updates which might fix older games , the older games are emulated by the driver instead of having programming already in them with 3d in mind , so the newer games should play and look much better.
RE5 was the first game with 3d in mind and it looks and plays absolutely stunning , like your there , although little popout.
Nvidia`s 3d tech is the best tech out there right now hands down though , and ghosting isnt too bad depending on your settings such as depth and convergence , also if your using a monitor or a 3d hdtv with more than 40 inches.
Ghosting seems to be not as bad on higher screens but also settings in the nvidia control panel can determine how bad ghosting is .
in my dlp setup i have barely any ghosting , and on older games i can make it so they are barely there , and to me its totally ignorable , but thats just my opinion.
the pc games are now being supported directly by nvidia using their tools to optimize the new games coming out
along with driver updates which might fix older games , the older games are emulated by the driver instead of having programming already in them with 3d in mind , so the newer games should play and look much better.
RE5 was the first game with 3d in mind and it looks and plays absolutely stunning , like your there , although little popout.
Nvidia`s 3d tech is the best tech out there right now hands down though , and ghosting isnt too bad depending on your settings such as depth and convergence , also if your using a monitor or a 3d hdtv with more than 40 inches.
Ghosting seems to be not as bad on higher screens but also settings in the nvidia control panel can determine how bad ghosting is .
in my dlp setup i have barely any ghosting , and on older games i can make it so they are barely there , and to me its totally ignorable , but thats just my opinion.
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the pc games are now being supported directly by nvidia using their tools to optimize the new games coming out
along with driver updates which might fix older games , the older games are emulated by the driver instead of having programming already in them with 3d in mind , so the newer games should play and look much better.
RE5 was the first game with 3d in mind and it looks and plays absolutely stunning , like your there , although little popout.
Nvidia`s 3d tech is the best tech out there right now hands down though , and ghosting isnt too bad depending on your settings such as depth and convergence , also if your using a monitor or a 3d hdtv with more than 40 inches.
Ghosting seems to be not as bad on higher screens but also settings in the nvidia control panel can determine how bad ghosting is .
in my dlp setup i have barely any ghosting , and on older games i can make it so they are barely there , and to me its totally ignorable , but thats just my opinion.[/quote]
the pc games are now being supported directly by nvidia using their tools to optimize the new games coming out
along with driver updates which might fix older games , the older games are emulated by the driver instead of having programming already in them with 3d in mind , so the newer games should play and look much better.
RE5 was the first game with 3d in mind and it looks and plays absolutely stunning , like your there , although little popout.
Nvidia`s 3d tech is the best tech out there right now hands down though , and ghosting isnt too bad depending on your settings such as depth and convergence , also if your using a monitor or a 3d hdtv with more than 40 inches.
Ghosting seems to be not as bad on higher screens but also settings in the nvidia control panel can determine how bad ghosting is .
in my dlp setup i have barely any ghosting , and on older games i can make it so they are barely there , and to me its totally ignorable , but thats just my opinion.
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2.) No it was not worth the money, yes I bought the Samsung monitor with it.
3.) When a game works, it's pretty nice, the 3D is snazzy. That's great. What's poor is EVERY game will suffer from ghosting when pushed up passed the 15% depth - and trust me 15% depth, "ain't nothin". Many games are considered "supported" and "good", but they play with tons of graphical errors, best case of this is Crysis.
It's a novelty, it's something cool to play with, but like all novelties, it wears off quickly. At least it did for me. Especially considering the down right insulting lack of support through drivers lately from nvidia. No new game profiles, no fixes to previous games with errors, nothing. Zip. Zilch. Nada.
It seems they've all but given up on it as well.
If I were you, I'd say save your money till 3D is more perfected ...probably when the next gen consoles hit. Right now your paying $500 bucks to be a beta tester, guinea pig whose left in the dark with little to no support from Andrew or any one else @ nvidia. Andrew means well, but nothing "he's looking into" ever really gets fixed, they kind of say yeah, yeah, yeah ok, to shut you up and then nothing is ever spoken of it again.
Then let's not even get me started on the lack of upcoming games supported....Resident Evil 5 seems like a rarity, not a trend.[/quote]
Strange as I dont seem to have anywhere near the problems you have and I am way way past 15% depth. So Maybe its you or your configuation. Better to check that beffore you speak for everyone about problems we dont all have. As I sem to think its well worth the money..
Also you have managed to point out the worst case of a game not working very well by saying crysis and using that as an example for all. This is not true, yea Crysis is not that good but so Many games are. Ie..
Tomb Raider Underworld= epic
LFD2= sweet
Fallout3= sweet
Age of empires 3 =epic
I have tested prob 20 games now including some mmo's and yea some are not that good but as for the most part I am more than happy and most play well.
Quick edit. If you had a good mon before as I did, then when I sold it the new mon only cost me half as much and is even better so this was a good upgrade anyway. Nvidia are not selling the monitors they are selling the glasses for £110 where I am so thats not alot to pay. Would it be there fault if your chip was not high enough to play the games aswell??
2.) No it was not worth the money, yes I bought the Samsung monitor with it.
3.) When a game works, it's pretty nice, the 3D is snazzy. That's great. What's poor is EVERY game will suffer from ghosting when pushed up passed the 15% depth - and trust me 15% depth, "ain't nothin". Many games are considered "supported" and "good", but they play with tons of graphical errors, best case of this is Crysis.
It's a novelty, it's something cool to play with, but like all novelties, it wears off quickly. At least it did for me. Especially considering the down right insulting lack of support through drivers lately from nvidia. No new game profiles, no fixes to previous games with errors, nothing. Zip. Zilch. Nada.
It seems they've all but given up on it as well.
If I were you, I'd say save your money till 3D is more perfected ...probably when the next gen consoles hit. Right now your paying $500 bucks to be a beta tester, guinea pig whose left in the dark with little to no support from Andrew or any one else @ nvidia. Andrew means well, but nothing "he's looking into" ever really gets fixed, they kind of say yeah, yeah, yeah ok, to shut you up and then nothing is ever spoken of it again.
Then let's not even get me started on the lack of upcoming games supported....Resident Evil 5 seems like a rarity, not a trend.
Strange as I dont seem to have anywhere near the problems you have and I am way way past 15% depth. So Maybe its you or your configuation. Better to check that beffore you speak for everyone about problems we dont all have. As I sem to think its well worth the money..
Also you have managed to point out the worst case of a game not working very well by saying crysis and using that as an example for all. This is not true, yea Crysis is not that good but so Many games are. Ie..
Tomb Raider Underworld= epic
LFD2= sweet
Fallout3= sweet
Age of empires 3 =epic
I have tested prob 20 games now including some mmo's and yea some are not that good but as for the most part I am more than happy and most play well.
Quick edit. If you had a good mon before as I did, then when I sold it the new mon only cost me half as much and is even better so this was a good upgrade anyway. Nvidia are not selling the monitors they are selling the glasses for £110 where I am so thats not alot to pay. Would it be there fault if your chip was not high enough to play the games aswell??
1. Does this work on any Monitor/TV with 120Hz refresh or just those that Nvidia has listed?
2. Was it worth the money you bought it for, and did you buy it with the monitor?
3. Can you elaborate what 'great', 'poor', etc 3D compatibility means? Alot of reviews are saying the effect is great and stuff and obviously I can't see it so what makes a 'great' 3D effect?
Is it exactly like a 3D movie? objects pop out at you? feels like you're in the game? What makes it 'poor'? Lack of some of those things?
Thanks for your time =)[/quote]
1. I brought mine at Tiger and the sellsperson told me that one of the customer brought a 120" TV along with 3d vision and have to return the product because it doesn't work. So try at your own risk of having to return your 120 TV.
2. the samsung LCD is a bit expensive, but worth the price as it gives sharper pictures. The glasses itself gives you the 3d feeling, it is not expensive and I like it.
3. When it comes to 3d, things are very different. Things that you don't pay attention become very big. Say mouse pointer for example. It is always on top of the things on a 2d view, yet it isn't the case in the 3d world. If you set deep depth than you will have difficulty clicking on stuff if the mouse reminds in 2d. HUD is another thing that cause problem. It will cut through a 3d object which prevents the 3d feeling. WoW allows custom HUD so you can reduce the size of the viewport and place all HUD alway from the viewport to avoid collusion and it has a 3d pointer so the pointer is always on top of objects, which makes it "Excellent."
Now a 3d picture looks awkward if things are not at the right perspective. For example say the picture is a person in 3d. If the environment is 3d but the person reminds in 2d, or the person is in 3d but the clothes are in 2d, then the entire picture looks awkward. Those are "Poor."
If things that doesn't render properly in the 3d world can be turn off, then it will be rated "Good" because you can turn those off. Shadow is one of the things that causes problem in most games i have played. I haven't try RE5 though.
It is exactly like 3d movie and things to appears closer to you then your LCD, but things won't jump out of your LCD onto your table. Nothing will show beyond the 22" viewport. Movie theaters has very big screen and further from the audience compare to your LCD. Say your LCD is 10 ft away from you, then you only have about 5 feet of 3d stuffs in front of you. If you stand 50 feet away, then you real see things popping out of your screen. Remember, things will only pop closer to you, but not out of the screen.
That is my 2 cents.
1. Does this work on any Monitor/TV with 120Hz refresh or just those that Nvidia has listed?
2. Was it worth the money you bought it for, and did you buy it with the monitor?
3. Can you elaborate what 'great', 'poor', etc 3D compatibility means? Alot of reviews are saying the effect is great and stuff and obviously I can't see it so what makes a 'great' 3D effect?
Is it exactly like a 3D movie? objects pop out at you? feels like you're in the game? What makes it 'poor'? Lack of some of those things?
Thanks for your time =)
1. I brought mine at Tiger and the sellsperson told me that one of the customer brought a 120" TV along with 3d vision and have to return the product because it doesn't work. So try at your own risk of having to return your 120 TV.
2. the samsung LCD is a bit expensive, but worth the price as it gives sharper pictures. The glasses itself gives you the 3d feeling, it is not expensive and I like it.
3. When it comes to 3d, things are very different. Things that you don't pay attention become very big. Say mouse pointer for example. It is always on top of the things on a 2d view, yet it isn't the case in the 3d world. If you set deep depth than you will have difficulty clicking on stuff if the mouse reminds in 2d. HUD is another thing that cause problem. It will cut through a 3d object which prevents the 3d feeling. WoW allows custom HUD so you can reduce the size of the viewport and place all HUD alway from the viewport to avoid collusion and it has a 3d pointer so the pointer is always on top of objects, which makes it "Excellent."
Now a 3d picture looks awkward if things are not at the right perspective. For example say the picture is a person in 3d. If the environment is 3d but the person reminds in 2d, or the person is in 3d but the clothes are in 2d, then the entire picture looks awkward. Those are "Poor."
If things that doesn't render properly in the 3d world can be turn off, then it will be rated "Good" because you can turn those off. Shadow is one of the things that causes problem in most games i have played. I haven't try RE5 though.
It is exactly like 3d movie and things to appears closer to you then your LCD, but things won't jump out of your LCD onto your table. Nothing will show beyond the 22" viewport. Movie theaters has very big screen and further from the audience compare to your LCD. Say your LCD is 10 ft away from you, then you only have about 5 feet of 3d stuffs in front of you. If you stand 50 feet away, then you real see things popping out of your screen. Remember, things will only pop closer to you, but not out of the screen.
That is my 2 cents.
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It is exactly like 3d movie and things to appears closer to you then your LCD, but things won't jump out of your LCD onto your table. Nothing will show beyond the 22" viewport. Movie theaters has very big screen and further from the audience compare to your LCD. Say your LCD is 10 ft away from you, then you only have about 5 feet of 3d stuffs in front of you. If you stand 50 feet away, then you real see things popping out of your screen. Remember, things will only pop closer to you, but not out of the screen.
That is my 2 cents.[/quote]
Not being rude but I am not entirely sure what you said here, "if 10ft away then 5ft of stuff in front of you"?, then "Remember, things will only pop closer to you, but not out of the screen"? I have games that do pop out of screen, ie parts of Wow ( had an amazing staff with orb spiining out of my screen) does from time to time along with aspects of AOE3 and certain other games.
Just asking if you could be more descriptive on what you are saying??
Regards
It is exactly like 3d movie and things to appears closer to you then your LCD, but things won't jump out of your LCD onto your table. Nothing will show beyond the 22" viewport. Movie theaters has very big screen and further from the audience compare to your LCD. Say your LCD is 10 ft away from you, then you only have about 5 feet of 3d stuffs in front of you. If you stand 50 feet away, then you real see things popping out of your screen. Remember, things will only pop closer to you, but not out of the screen.
That is my 2 cents.
Not being rude but I am not entirely sure what you said here, "if 10ft away then 5ft of stuff in front of you"?, then "Remember, things will only pop closer to you, but not out of the screen"? I have games that do pop out of screen, ie parts of Wow ( had an amazing staff with orb spiining out of my screen) does from time to time along with aspects of AOE3 and certain other games.
Just asking if you could be more descriptive on what you are saying??
Regards
Just asking if you could be more descriptive on what you are saying??
Regards[/quote]
It may be me, but try to put your finger in front of your eyes and start to move it closer towards your eyes and see how close can you get your finger towards your eyes before you just can't see one finger. You will see that you really need to try to see your finger as your eyes ain't used to focus on things that close to your face. I do know that some people can do it with ease, but not me.
My 10 feet crap is way off. My monitor is not 10 feet away from me, more like 3 feet, and I can't see a single image within a foot unless i really focus on it. My point is the "towards you" effect is much bigger when the monitor is very far from you, but since the monitor is relatively close, the effect is not as big as the one you see in threaters.
Some of the ads have rockets fly off the edge of the monitor. This can not happen, but the only way to describe 3d in 2d. You will not see pictures popping off the edge of the monitor, however, they may appear closer to you than the monitor. For example again, image may appear 2 feet away from you where the monitor is actually 4 feet away.
I play wow too, but if I set the depth level too high, then the character at the char select screen will simply become 2 images. I will have to move back to see that because the image focus point is actually more than 3 feet. You know what I mean if you have 3d vision, but people without it will have no idea what i am typing about.
I have seen reviews where people complaining that things don't really come out of screen and it does not make youtube vids go 3d.
I already tried my best to describe it, my english can only deliver this much.
Just asking if you could be more descriptive on what you are saying??
Regards
It may be me, but try to put your finger in front of your eyes and start to move it closer towards your eyes and see how close can you get your finger towards your eyes before you just can't see one finger. You will see that you really need to try to see your finger as your eyes ain't used to focus on things that close to your face. I do know that some people can do it with ease, but not me.
My 10 feet crap is way off. My monitor is not 10 feet away from me, more like 3 feet, and I can't see a single image within a foot unless i really focus on it. My point is the "towards you" effect is much bigger when the monitor is very far from you, but since the monitor is relatively close, the effect is not as big as the one you see in threaters.
Some of the ads have rockets fly off the edge of the monitor. This can not happen, but the only way to describe 3d in 2d. You will not see pictures popping off the edge of the monitor, however, they may appear closer to you than the monitor. For example again, image may appear 2 feet away from you where the monitor is actually 4 feet away.
I play wow too, but if I set the depth level too high, then the character at the char select screen will simply become 2 images. I will have to move back to see that because the image focus point is actually more than 3 feet. You know what I mean if you have 3d vision, but people without it will have no idea what i am typing about.
I have seen reviews where people complaining that things don't really come out of screen and it does not make youtube vids go 3d.
I already tried my best to describe it, my english can only deliver this much.
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My 10 feet crap is way off. My monitor is not 10 feet away from me, more like 3 feet, and I can't see a single image within a foot unless i really focus on it. My point is the "towards you" effect is much bigger when the monitor is very far from you, but since the monitor is relatively close, the effect is not as big as the one you see in threaters.
Some of the ads have rockets fly off the edge of the monitor. This can not happen, but the only way to describe 3d in 2d. You will not see pictures popping off the edge of the monitor, however, they may appear closer to you than the monitor. For example again, image may appear 2 feet away from you where the monitor is actually 4 feet away.
I play wow too, but if I set the depth level too high, then the character at the char select screen will simply become 2 images. I will have to move back to see that because the image focus point is actually more than 3 feet. You know what I mean if you have 3d vision, but people without it will have no idea what i am typing about.
I have seen reviews where people complaining that things don't really come out of screen and it does not make youtube vids go 3d.
I already tried my best to describe it, my english can only deliver this much.[/quote]
I understand that mostly the games give depth, the illusion of 3d. yet a few aspects of certain games can also give the illusion that the object is actualy comming out of the screen, as I said before with wow char and his armour and weps.
I feel some people either dont have settings working properly or as you said some people can see things easier than others. All I can say is that I often see things popping out of my screen but MAINLY its all about the illusion of depth in a game that makes it look like you can reach into your monitor and pull out things, like its all in say a dolls house, or if you are playing an RST its like the minitures people build and place on a mock battlefield and you can just pick them up (looks wise)
Either way I am very happy with them and it makes for a most enjoyable gaming experience.
Regards
My 10 feet crap is way off. My monitor is not 10 feet away from me, more like 3 feet, and I can't see a single image within a foot unless i really focus on it. My point is the "towards you" effect is much bigger when the monitor is very far from you, but since the monitor is relatively close, the effect is not as big as the one you see in threaters.
Some of the ads have rockets fly off the edge of the monitor. This can not happen, but the only way to describe 3d in 2d. You will not see pictures popping off the edge of the monitor, however, they may appear closer to you than the monitor. For example again, image may appear 2 feet away from you where the monitor is actually 4 feet away.
I play wow too, but if I set the depth level too high, then the character at the char select screen will simply become 2 images. I will have to move back to see that because the image focus point is actually more than 3 feet. You know what I mean if you have 3d vision, but people without it will have no idea what i am typing about.
I have seen reviews where people complaining that things don't really come out of screen and it does not make youtube vids go 3d.
I already tried my best to describe it, my english can only deliver this much.
I understand that mostly the games give depth, the illusion of 3d. yet a few aspects of certain games can also give the illusion that the object is actualy comming out of the screen, as I said before with wow char and his armour and weps.
I feel some people either dont have settings working properly or as you said some people can see things easier than others. All I can say is that I often see things popping out of my screen but MAINLY its all about the illusion of depth in a game that makes it look like you can reach into your monitor and pull out things, like its all in say a dolls house, or if you are playing an RST its like the minitures people build and place on a mock battlefield and you can just pick them up (looks wise)
Either way I am very happy with them and it makes for a most enjoyable gaming experience.
Regards
Ive only recently purchased but as others have said, its made me re-install a lot of my 'games on the shelf' just to replay them in Stereo 3D
Ive only recently purchased but as others have said, its made me re-install a lot of my 'games on the shelf' just to replay them in Stereo 3D