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#46
Posted 10/25/2011 02:17 AM   
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#47
Posted 10/25/2011 02:51 AM   
WOW, extremely disappointed I should have read this thread a little earlier. I wouldn't have wasted my cash if I knew it didn't have 3D support on Day one. I could have waited. Should have guessed since it was not available in the BETA.

:(
WOW, extremely disappointed I should have read this thread a little earlier. I wouldn't have wasted my cash if I knew it didn't have 3D support on Day one. I could have waited. Should have guessed since it was not available in the BETA.



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#48
Posted 10/25/2011 05:56 AM   
It's incredible this is announced just after release, not allowing people to cancel their pre-orders, what a shame.

Thankfully I didn't pre-order. I was thinking also on pre-ordering Sonic Generations since supposedly it supports 3d vision but it's quite obvious now that Nvidia has absolutely no control on developers who announce 3d vision support but then it's broken or simply not there, so I won't ever pre-order again a game based on 'confirmed' 3d vision support, this has happened just too many times with the likes of Witcher 2, Bulletstorm, BF3, etc.

I understand that 3d support is way on the bottom of devs to do list, but then Nvidia shouldn't allow them to announce a game as 3d vision supported when it isn't, they get to market a feature they don't have and we consumers get treated like idiots.

Now the waiting game, probably half the experience of 3d vision.
It's incredible this is announced just after release, not allowing people to cancel their pre-orders, what a shame.



Thankfully I didn't pre-order. I was thinking also on pre-ordering Sonic Generations since supposedly it supports 3d vision but it's quite obvious now that Nvidia has absolutely no control on developers who announce 3d vision support but then it's broken or simply not there, so I won't ever pre-order again a game based on 'confirmed' 3d vision support, this has happened just too many times with the likes of Witcher 2, Bulletstorm, BF3, etc.



I understand that 3d support is way on the bottom of devs to do list, but then Nvidia shouldn't allow them to announce a game as 3d vision supported when it isn't, they get to market a feature they don't have and we consumers get treated like idiots.



Now the waiting game, probably half the experience of 3d vision.

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#49
Posted 10/25/2011 06:22 AM   
I'm so freakin tired of this ****. I spent oh so many hours trying to enable 3D Vision, thought it was wrong with my computer. I did everything and never got it to work. I thought I had a serious hardware error because it said so right in the Nvidia control panel that BF3 is "3D Vision Ready". Was it so god damn hard for anyone to write somewhere that "NO 3D Vision DO NOT work with BF3"? "NOT YET. Maybe, in the future". My time isn't valuable? I spent hours! And might I add that the absolute vast majority of all games do not work or are having amazing trouble being gamed in 3D. I begin to think about what was the point for me to buy this equipment. I've definitively spent way more hours trying to get 3D Vision to work than I have spent playing games in 3D. Hours I could have put down at my work and earn money. As BF3 shows, not even "3D Vision ready" games do work these days!

Of all the god damn games I've played I only have one single good 3D experience, and it was that of Batman Arkham Asylum. If you add Crysis 2 you get two titles (although I really wouldn't because the stereomode is fake). Isn't this statistics kinda pathetic?
I'm so freakin tired of this ****. I spent oh so many hours trying to enable 3D Vision, thought it was wrong with my computer. I did everything and never got it to work. I thought I had a serious hardware error because it said so right in the Nvidia control panel that BF3 is "3D Vision Ready". Was it so god damn hard for anyone to write somewhere that "NO 3D Vision DO NOT work with BF3"? "NOT YET. Maybe, in the future". My time isn't valuable? I spent hours! And might I add that the absolute vast majority of all games do not work or are having amazing trouble being gamed in 3D. I begin to think about what was the point for me to buy this equipment. I've definitively spent way more hours trying to get 3D Vision to work than I have spent playing games in 3D. Hours I could have put down at my work and earn money. As BF3 shows, not even "3D Vision ready" games do work these days!



Of all the god damn games I've played I only have one single good 3D experience, and it was that of Batman Arkham Asylum. If you add Crysis 2 you get two titles (although I really wouldn't because the stereomode is fake). Isn't this statistics kinda pathetic?

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Geforce drivers installed: 257.15
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#50
Posted 10/25/2011 07:59 AM   
It seems to me that 3D Vision is just another passing fad someone suckered us in enough for to expend way too many dollars. The only thing that seems to be consistently growing is 3D Movies, using a non PC Dependent solution.
We must represent too small a segment of the market for developers to concern themselves with the extra work. At the end of the day, the return on investment must be there to support the business case. Its not as if anyone does this as art.
I can also understand Nvidia's reluctance to admit yet another failure. They want to prolong the myth as long as possible as it is just another gimmick to win over consumers rather than see them buy AMD. Well, it looks like the has come for them to admit the truth rather than lie to us and piss us off. You can be sure that I will be remembering this when it is time for me to upgrade my video card. Too bad two GTX 570s in SLI are going to continue to handle everything I can throw at them at my projector's resolution (720P) for a long time.

Answer this Nvidia! Not interested in the usual tripe you pass out, looking for real information. Rest assured the results of this exchange will provide material for posts on many other forums, one way or another.
It seems to me that 3D Vision is just another passing fad someone suckered us in enough for to expend way too many dollars. The only thing that seems to be consistently growing is 3D Movies, using a non PC Dependent solution.

We must represent too small a segment of the market for developers to concern themselves with the extra work. At the end of the day, the return on investment must be there to support the business case. Its not as if anyone does this as art.

I can also understand Nvidia's reluctance to admit yet another failure. They want to prolong the myth as long as possible as it is just another gimmick to win over consumers rather than see them buy AMD. Well, it looks like the has come for them to admit the truth rather than lie to us and piss us off. You can be sure that I will be remembering this when it is time for me to upgrade my video card. Too bad two GTX 570s in SLI are going to continue to handle everything I can throw at them at my projector's resolution (720P) for a long time.



Answer this Nvidia! Not interested in the usual tripe you pass out, looking for real information. Rest assured the results of this exchange will provide material for posts on many other forums, one way or another.

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#51
Posted 10/25/2011 08:40 AM   
[quote name='AntiKrist' date='25 October 2011 - 08:59 AM' timestamp='1319529562' post='1313554']
I'm so freakin tired of this ****. I spent oh so many hours trying to enable 3D Vision, thought it was wrong with my computer. I did everything and never got it to work. I thought I had a serious hardware error because it said so right in the Nvidia control panel that BF3 is "3D Vision Ready". Was it so god damn hard for anyone to write somewhere that "NO 3D Vision DO NOT work with BF3"? "NOT YET. Maybe, in the future". My time isn't valuable? I spent hours! And might I add that the absolute vast majority of all games do not work or are having amazing trouble being gamed in 3D. I begin to think about what was the point for me to buy this equipment. I've definitively spent way more hours trying to get 3D Vision to work than I have spent playing games in 3D. Hours I could have put down at my work and earn money. As BF3 shows, not even "3D Vision ready" games do work these days!

Of all the god damn games I've played I only have one single good 3D experience, and it was that of Batman Arkham Asylum. If you add Crysis 2 you get two titles (although I really wouldn't because the stereomode is fake). Isn't this statistics kinda pathetic?
[/quote]
It is freaking annoying that it doesn't work at the moment but it will very soon I'm sure. It isn't nvidias fault, they've kept their side of the bargain and brought out a new patch the day before release. If you want to flame anyone then go on EA/Dice forum.

Have you only had 2 games that have been a good 3D experience for you? I've had loads (Metro 2033, Just Cause, Trine, Dirt3, Assassins Creed Brotherhood etc etc) and I think it is a little bit expected to have to play around with settings and configs for a PC game to work well with Vision. We have so many more benefits with graphics and mods than our console brethrens so I think a little bit of work is acceptable.
[quote name='AntiKrist' date='25 October 2011 - 08:59 AM' timestamp='1319529562' post='1313554']

I'm so freakin tired of this ****. I spent oh so many hours trying to enable 3D Vision, thought it was wrong with my computer. I did everything and never got it to work. I thought I had a serious hardware error because it said so right in the Nvidia control panel that BF3 is "3D Vision Ready". Was it so god damn hard for anyone to write somewhere that "NO 3D Vision DO NOT work with BF3"? "NOT YET. Maybe, in the future". My time isn't valuable? I spent hours! And might I add that the absolute vast majority of all games do not work or are having amazing trouble being gamed in 3D. I begin to think about what was the point for me to buy this equipment. I've definitively spent way more hours trying to get 3D Vision to work than I have spent playing games in 3D. Hours I could have put down at my work and earn money. As BF3 shows, not even "3D Vision ready" games do work these days!



Of all the god damn games I've played I only have one single good 3D experience, and it was that of Batman Arkham Asylum. If you add Crysis 2 you get two titles (although I really wouldn't because the stereomode is fake). Isn't this statistics kinda pathetic?



It is freaking annoying that it doesn't work at the moment but it will very soon I'm sure. It isn't nvidias fault, they've kept their side of the bargain and brought out a new patch the day before release. If you want to flame anyone then go on EA/Dice forum.



Have you only had 2 games that have been a good 3D experience for you? I've had loads (Metro 2033, Just Cause, Trine, Dirt3, Assassins Creed Brotherhood etc etc) and I think it is a little bit expected to have to play around with settings and configs for a PC game to work well with Vision. We have so many more benefits with graphics and mods than our console brethrens so I think a little bit of work is acceptable.

#52
Posted 10/25/2011 08:44 AM   
[quote name='Richie72' date='25 October 2011 - 12:44 AM' timestamp='1319532291' post='1313570']
It isn't nvidias fault, they've kept their side of the bargain and brought out a new patch the day before release. If you want to flame anyone then go on EA/Dice forum.

Have you only had 2 games that have been a good 3D experience for you? I've had loads (Metro 2033, Just Cause, Trine, Dirt3, Assassins Creed Brotherhood etc etc) and I think it is a little bit expected to have to play around with settings and configs for a PC game to work well with Vision. We have so many more benefits with graphics and mods than our console brethrens so I think a little bit of work is acceptable.
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Agree fully with you. Forgot to mention Metro 2033. And sure thing, there are others I haven't played and thus cannot count for, such as Assassin's Creed Brotherhood. And I agree even more with you that Nvidia showed quite an amount good will releasing those drivers and that ultimately, my issues lie with the developer of Battlefield 3. What I'm furiously pissed of with is the fact that no one said anything other than that the game was supposed to be 3D Vision ready. Whatever any technical specification sheet might say, if the game cannot be launched in 3D, then the game is not 3D Vision ready. This could be stated with a single sentence somewhere in the notes with the released drivers, but apparently because my time spent trying to solve this issue doesn't matter, it wasn't. Multiply my hours with the entire customer base who have together spent millions of hours trying to solve this issue to no avail, still these millions of man-hours means less to Nvidia than 5 minutes it would take for a developer to add a sentence or two to the release notes. 5 minutes is a small price to pay for good customer relationships.

What set me of is that my entire experience of 3D Vision is one long headache and fixing and mixing and tweaking just to get it to work, at all. Now for once I truly looked forward just enjoying a game in 3D without any hassle. I downloaded new drivers and saw that the game was "3D Vision" ready. Oh how that made me happy. But, as usual, just until I had actually launched the game. This time, even a 3D Vision ready game wasn't very much "ready" at all. After countless number of hours of work flushed down the toilet, I find out on a forum that it is one big lie - no matter "who's fault" it is. Nvidia could at least have said something! Or perhaps they don't test their drivers themselves?
[quote name='Richie72' date='25 October 2011 - 12:44 AM' timestamp='1319532291' post='1313570']

It isn't nvidias fault, they've kept their side of the bargain and brought out a new patch the day before release. If you want to flame anyone then go on EA/Dice forum.



Have you only had 2 games that have been a good 3D experience for you? I've had loads (Metro 2033, Just Cause, Trine, Dirt3, Assassins Creed Brotherhood etc etc) and I think it is a little bit expected to have to play around with settings and configs for a PC game to work well with Vision. We have so many more benefits with graphics and mods than our console brethrens so I think a little bit of work is acceptable.





Agree fully with you. Forgot to mention Metro 2033. And sure thing, there are others I haven't played and thus cannot count for, such as Assassin's Creed Brotherhood. And I agree even more with you that Nvidia showed quite an amount good will releasing those drivers and that ultimately, my issues lie with the developer of Battlefield 3. What I'm furiously pissed of with is the fact that no one said anything other than that the game was supposed to be 3D Vision ready. Whatever any technical specification sheet might say, if the game cannot be launched in 3D, then the game is not 3D Vision ready. This could be stated with a single sentence somewhere in the notes with the released drivers, but apparently because my time spent trying to solve this issue doesn't matter, it wasn't. Multiply my hours with the entire customer base who have together spent millions of hours trying to solve this issue to no avail, still these millions of man-hours means less to Nvidia than 5 minutes it would take for a developer to add a sentence or two to the release notes. 5 minutes is a small price to pay for good customer relationships.



What set me of is that my entire experience of 3D Vision is one long headache and fixing and mixing and tweaking just to get it to work, at all. Now for once I truly looked forward just enjoying a game in 3D without any hassle. I downloaded new drivers and saw that the game was "3D Vision" ready. Oh how that made me happy. But, as usual, just until I had actually launched the game. This time, even a 3D Vision ready game wasn't very much "ready" at all. After countless number of hours of work flushed down the toilet, I find out on a forum that it is one big lie - no matter "who's fault" it is. Nvidia could at least have said something! Or perhaps they don't test their drivers themselves?

CPU: QX6850 @ 3Ghz (default factory value)
GPU: GTX 295
RAM: 8 Gb DDR2

Geforce drivers installed: 257.15
3D Vision USB driver: CD 1.27

OS: Win7 x64

#53
Posted 10/25/2011 09:46 AM   
I think that until next gen consoles arrive and hopefully 3d is a given in every game if Sony keeps with their aggressive 3d strategy, 3d support is going to be a hit and miss for a long time, obviously Nvidia is not making a difference in assuring high quality 3d support, probably microsoft will update their direct3d with robust stereoscopic support sooner or later and 3d vision will go the way of other failed computer standards like soundblaster EAX or voodoo gfx cards, only the truly 3d faithful can stand constantly not being able to play AAA titles due to lacking 3d support.
I think that until next gen consoles arrive and hopefully 3d is a given in every game if Sony keeps with their aggressive 3d strategy, 3d support is going to be a hit and miss for a long time, obviously Nvidia is not making a difference in assuring high quality 3d support, probably microsoft will update their direct3d with robust stereoscopic support sooner or later and 3d vision will go the way of other failed computer standards like soundblaster EAX or voodoo gfx cards, only the truly 3d faithful can stand constantly not being able to play AAA titles due to lacking 3d support.

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#54
Posted 10/25/2011 09:49 AM   
[quote name='birthright' date='25 October 2011 - 03:22 AM' timestamp='1319523740' post='1313517']
I understand that 3d support is way on the bottom of devs to do list, but then [b]Nvidia shouldn't allow them to announce a game as 3d vision supported when it isn't[/b], they get to market a feature they don't have and we consumers get treated like idiots.[/quote]

Thats the point [img]http://forums.nvidia.com/public/style_emoticons/default/confused.gif[/img]
[quote name='birthright' date='25 October 2011 - 03:22 AM' timestamp='1319523740' post='1313517']

I understand that 3d support is way on the bottom of devs to do list, but then Nvidia shouldn't allow them to announce a game as 3d vision supported when it isn't, they get to market a feature they don't have and we consumers get treated like idiots.



Thats the point Image

#55
Posted 10/25/2011 09:49 AM   
I just downloaded new drivers for BF3 and came quickly to see forums if everything was alright with drivers and what did I found! 3D doesnt work. /shock.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':shock:' />

[quote name='Manippy' date='25 October 2011 - 02:09 AM' timestamp='1319497757' post='1313329']
This is a slap in the face.
I did play the beta in 3D for a few minutes before they blocked it, and
all i could see was the shadows and sky that werent at the correct depth, but it
did run smooth on my one gtx480
[/quote]

Thanks, that was first message actually replying topic and informative too. /thanks.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':thanks:' />

So sad that another game comes again as 3D Vision Ready, but isnt. I understand rage about it, but for some reason I'm not angry.
I just downloaded new drivers for BF3 and came quickly to see forums if everything was alright with drivers and what did I found! 3D doesnt work. /shock.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':shock:' />



[quote name='Manippy' date='25 October 2011 - 02:09 AM' timestamp='1319497757' post='1313329']

This is a slap in the face.

I did play the beta in 3D for a few minutes before they blocked it, and

all i could see was the shadows and sky that werent at the correct depth, but it

did run smooth on my one gtx480





Thanks, that was first message actually replying topic and informative too. /thanks.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':thanks:' />



So sad that another game comes again as 3D Vision Ready, but isnt. I understand rage about it, but for some reason I'm not angry.

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#56
Posted 10/25/2011 11:51 AM   
It would be good if the 3D was the same quality as the BF2:BC and not like HD3D Deus Ex 3's 3D HUD only attempt.
It would be good if the 3D was the same quality as the BF2:BC and not like HD3D Deus Ex 3's 3D HUD only attempt.

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#57
Posted 10/25/2011 12:03 PM   
[quote name='birthright' date='25 October 2011 - 10:49 AM' timestamp='1319536158' post='1313604']
3d vision will go the way of other failed computer standards like soundblaster EAX.[/quote]
Creative Sound Blaster EAX didn't fail for PC games it was microsoft who ommited the Direct3D Sound api from windows vista and windows 7.
[quote name='birthright' date='25 October 2011 - 10:49 AM' timestamp='1319536158' post='1313604']

3d vision will go the way of other failed computer standards like soundblaster EAX.

Creative Sound Blaster EAX didn't fail for PC games it was microsoft who ommited the Direct3D Sound api from windows vista and windows 7.

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#58
Posted 10/25/2011 01:11 PM   
[quote name='andysonofbob' date='25 October 2011 - 01:03 PM' timestamp='1319544228' post='1313669']
It would be good if the 3D was the same quality as the BF2:BC .[/quote]
I thought battlefield bad company looked mediocre in 3d, their shadows were fubar. The problem i find with nvidia stereoscopic 3d is you often have to turn many of the settings off in games to counter the fubar effects lol. I suppose some will probably give 3D Vision 2 a miss?.
[quote name='andysonofbob' date='25 October 2011 - 01:03 PM' timestamp='1319544228' post='1313669']

It would be good if the 3D was the same quality as the BF2:BC .

I thought battlefield bad company looked mediocre in 3d, their shadows were fubar. The problem i find with nvidia stereoscopic 3d is you often have to turn many of the settings off in games to counter the fubar effects lol. I suppose some will probably give 3D Vision 2 a miss?.

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#59
Posted 10/25/2011 01:16 PM   
As frustrating and/or annoying this information about the lack of 3D for bf3 at release is, i wouldn't pitch a fit over it, not worth it, battlefield 3 (aka bad company 3) is not all that great the game looks mediocre, yeah fun i suppose but mediocre, the 3d will probably half hearted attemt anyway?.

Batman Arkham City will blow battlecraptastic 3 out of the water where 3D is concerend, lol.
As frustrating and/or annoying this information about the lack of 3D for bf3 at release is, i wouldn't pitch a fit over it, not worth it, battlefield 3 (aka bad company 3) is not all that great the game looks mediocre, yeah fun i suppose but mediocre, the 3d will probably half hearted attemt anyway?.



Batman Arkham City will blow battlecraptastic 3 out of the water where 3D is concerend, lol.

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#60
Posted 10/25/2011 01:22 PM   
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