HDMI1.4 checkerboard for all! 3D Vision software fix here!
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[quote name='roller11' date='05 March 2011 - 10:03 AM' timestamp='1299340990' post='1202719']
Is your Mits HDMI1.3 or HDMI1.4? Below I'm assuming HDMI1.4, so my answers are totally different if 1.3.

1. Checkerboard is only in 3D Vision, not 3DTV Play. You will use the Nvidia emitter from the 3D Vision kit and the TVs glasses. CB is technically 1920x1080/60 per frame, 1 frame= one left image + one right image.

2. there are reports of after market Nvidia glasses, I have no experience with them.

3.no

4. if I were you, I'd do the following: Before spending any money, get the free 3D driver trial download from iZ3D. In some ways, it is better than 3D Vision. Ditto the free trial from TriDef but get them consecutively because TriDef D/L is not renewable. Both Tridef and iZ3D offer both CB and side by side modes.
Two reasons for doing this: you get first hand experience with competing full res 3D gaming solutions so you have a frame of reference when you get 3DTV Play or 3D Vision. Also, you can play games in 3D ful res 1920x1080P while you are waiting for Nvidia to get around to fixing 3DTV Play/HDMI1.4 3D Vision. There are predictions that Nvidia will some day offer CB in 3DTV Play and HDMI1.4 3D Vision but who knows when that will be? You will buy at least 6 weeks by using these trial D/L so you may have continuous coverage. If fixed 3DTV Play is not out six weeks from now, you can always renew the iZ3D trial. Either way, you can start 3D gaming immediately instead of weeks/months from now.

An extra reason for the trials is that iZ3D and TriDef offer SBS. For Samsung plasma/LEDs owners, this is unimportant. For DLP owners, this could be crucial. That's because CB doesn't work that well on DLP sets, there's a definite 'screen door' effect which the Plasmas and LEDs don't have. And yes, I'm talking from first hand experience, not 'some guy said'. So it's possible that SBS is the mode of choice for DLPs. I no longer have a Mits DLP so I can't test it.
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1) I thought Andrew (the Nvidia mod/rep) had stated that they plan to add Checkerboard to 3DTV Play as a result of complaints in this thread? As for whether the TV in question is HDMI 1.3 or 1.4... I'm actually not sure. The model number is WD-73831 and it's a "3D-Ready TV" (I thought all 3D-Ready TV's had HDMI 1.4 support?) but I have tried finding online what kind of HDMI it supports but can't find any information. If it's 1.3 what would your answers have been?

4) In order to try out those trials, I'd have to spend money since I don't have any glasses or the 3D adapter for my TV yet. In fact I have no idea which glasses would work with my TV since there are no "Mitsubishi" branded 3D glasses. I heard that these work based on reading reviews: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003Q96CCC/ref=ord_cart_shr?ie=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER and also the ones that come with the 3D adapter "starter pack" http://www.amazon.com/Mitsubishi-3DC-1000-HDTV-Starter-Pack/dp/B003KTN0B4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1299362134&sr=1-1 but that is extremely overpriced and I was opting to get the adapter and glasses separate. But I can't find those glasses from the starter pack to buy separate anywhere, I believe they are Samsung. Also I'm confused as to how you are suggesting I "try out" 3D Vision and 3DTV play, without actually going out and buying 3D Vision since I don't yet have an emitter and glasses to try out 3D. (Since I don't yet have the adapter). I'm trying to determine where to spend my money and how I can achieve 1080p/60FPS gaming using the 73 inch TV we already own so I don't have to spend $500 on a 120hz 24inch monitor.

Thanks for the reply and the help though, but I'm still confused. It would probably help if I knew if my TV was HDMI 1.3 or 1.4. How can I find out? Also, what's "SBS"?

Edit: From what I understand, if a TV is "3D-Ready", then it is HDMI 1.4 (unless I'm wrong?) However, upon looking at the list of supported 3D TV's on Nvidia's 3DTV Play webpage: http://www.nvidia.com/object/3dtv-play-requirements.html#3dtvs my model (Mitsubishi WD-73831) is for some reason omitted... what's the deal with that? Would my TV seriously not work with Nvidia 3DTV?
[quote name='roller11' date='05 March 2011 - 10:03 AM' timestamp='1299340990' post='1202719']

Is your Mits HDMI1.3 or HDMI1.4? Below I'm assuming HDMI1.4, so my answers are totally different if 1.3.



1. Checkerboard is only in 3D Vision, not 3DTV Play. You will use the Nvidia emitter from the 3D Vision kit and the TVs glasses. CB is technically 1920x1080/60 per frame, 1 frame= one left image + one right image.



2. there are reports of after market Nvidia glasses, I have no experience with them.



3.no



4. if I were you, I'd do the following: Before spending any money, get the free 3D driver trial download from iZ3D. In some ways, it is better than 3D Vision. Ditto the free trial from TriDef but get them consecutively because TriDef D/L is not renewable. Both Tridef and iZ3D offer both CB and side by side modes.

Two reasons for doing this: you get first hand experience with competing full res 3D gaming solutions so you have a frame of reference when you get 3DTV Play or 3D Vision. Also, you can play games in 3D ful res 1920x1080P while you are waiting for Nvidia to get around to fixing 3DTV Play/HDMI1.4 3D Vision. There are predictions that Nvidia will some day offer CB in 3DTV Play and HDMI1.4 3D Vision but who knows when that will be? You will buy at least 6 weeks by using these trial D/L so you may have continuous coverage. If fixed 3DTV Play is not out six weeks from now, you can always renew the iZ3D trial. Either way, you can start 3D gaming immediately instead of weeks/months from now.



An extra reason for the trials is that iZ3D and TriDef offer SBS. For Samsung plasma/LEDs owners, this is unimportant. For DLP owners, this could be crucial. That's because CB doesn't work that well on DLP sets, there's a definite 'screen door' effect which the Plasmas and LEDs don't have. And yes, I'm talking from first hand experience, not 'some guy said'. So it's possible that SBS is the mode of choice for DLPs. I no longer have a Mits DLP so I can't test it.





1) I thought Andrew (the Nvidia mod/rep) had stated that they plan to add Checkerboard to 3DTV Play as a result of complaints in this thread? As for whether the TV in question is HDMI 1.3 or 1.4... I'm actually not sure. The model number is WD-73831 and it's a "3D-Ready TV" (I thought all 3D-Ready TV's had HDMI 1.4 support?) but I have tried finding online what kind of HDMI it supports but can't find any information. If it's 1.3 what would your answers have been?



4) In order to try out those trials, I'd have to spend money since I don't have any glasses or the 3D adapter for my TV yet. In fact I have no idea which glasses would work with my TV since there are no "Mitsubishi" branded 3D glasses. I heard that these work based on reading reviews: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003Q96CCC/ref=ord_cart_shr?ie=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER and also the ones that come with the 3D adapter "starter pack" http://www.amazon.com/Mitsubishi-3DC-1000-HDTV-Starter-Pack/dp/B003KTN0B4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1299362134&sr=1-1 but that is extremely overpriced and I was opting to get the adapter and glasses separate. But I can't find those glasses from the starter pack to buy separate anywhere, I believe they are Samsung. Also I'm confused as to how you are suggesting I "try out" 3D Vision and 3DTV play, without actually going out and buying 3D Vision since I don't yet have an emitter and glasses to try out 3D. (Since I don't yet have the adapter). I'm trying to determine where to spend my money and how I can achieve 1080p/60FPS gaming using the 73 inch TV we already own so I don't have to spend $500 on a 120hz 24inch monitor.



Thanks for the reply and the help though, but I'm still confused. It would probably help if I knew if my TV was HDMI 1.3 or 1.4. How can I find out? Also, what's "SBS"?



Edit: From what I understand, if a TV is "3D-Ready", then it is HDMI 1.4 (unless I'm wrong?) However, upon looking at the list of supported 3D TV's on Nvidia's 3DTV Play webpage: http://www.nvidia.com/object/3dtv-play-requirements.html#3dtvs my model (Mitsubishi WD-73831) is for some reason omitted... what's the deal with that? Would my TV seriously not work with Nvidia 3DTV?

Posted 03/05/2011 09:41 PM   
[quote name='Vertigo-1' date='05 March 2011 - 02:41 PM' timestamp='1299361280' post='1202847']
1) I thought Andrew (the Nvidia mod/rep) had stated that they plan to add Checkerboard to 3DTV Play as a result of complaints in this thread? As for whether the TV in question is HDMI 1.3 or 1.4... I'm actually not sure. The model number is WD-73831 and it's a "3D-Ready TV" (I thought all 3D-Ready TV's had HDMI 1.4 support?) but I have tried finding online what kind of HDMI it supports but can't find any information. If it's 1.3 what would your answers have been?[/quote]
Yes, Andrew is saying that, hence my prediction. All 2009 HDTVs are HDMI1.3, all Plasmas/LED 2010 models are 1.4, but I'm not sure about 2010 Mits. The difference is that if the 3D Vision detects 1.3, then you get checkerboard. If 1.4, you're stuck with 720P framepacking. Or, you can install the EDID override file "rollermod.inf" and get checkerboard with 1.4 and 3D Vision emitter. It's also possible that your set has 1.3, but is upgradeable to 1.4 via auto update by Mits. Problem is this upgrade is automatic, the upgrade happens without the users permission. A guy was enjoying full res 3D gaming (1.3) with his Mits. Overnight, the TV 'upgraded' itself to 1.4 and he was shocked to find he could no longer use the TV for 3D gaming, the TV was effectively ruined. You already have the Mits, so make sure it isn't plugged into the internet.
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4) In order to try out those trials, I'd have to spend money since I don't have any glasses[/quote]
I'm using the NXG glasses, they are compatible with Samsung. I'm pretty sure that Samsung and Mits use the same glasses, research this and see what you come upp with. If you get them at Amazon, you can return them if they don't work so there's no risk. http://www.amazon.com/NXG-Technology-NX-3DG-Shutter-Glasses/dp/B0046TNR42/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1299363542&sr=8-6

[quote]Also I'm confused as to how you are suggesting I "try out" 3D Vision and 3DTV play, without actually going out and buying 3D Vision since I don't yet have an emitter and glasses to try out 3D.[/quote]
I assumed you already had glasses, and my "free trial" comments were strictly about iZ3D and TriDef. There's no free trial of 3D Vision, and 3DTV Play doesn't support checkerboard so there's no reason to try the 3DTV Play trial, at least until Nvidia fixes it.
[quote]
I'm trying to determine where to spend my money and how I can achieve 1080p/60FPS gaming using the 73 inch TV we already own so I don't have to spend $500 on a 120hz 24inch monitor.[/quote]
Not only that, but gaming on a teeny tiny 24" monitor wouldn't be much fun anyway. You need at least 50" to feel immersed, and the bigger the better, especially with 3D gaming. No matter what, you need to get the glasses, so you may as well get them right away. Just remember that Amazon's return policy is only 30 days.

[quote]Thanks for the reply and the help though, but I'm still confused. It would probably help if I knew if my TV was HDMI 1.3 or 1.4. How can I find out?[/quote]
Easy, the setup program tell you. D/L CD1.45 3D Vision package from Nvidia and go through setup. If HDMI1.4, the first screen you come to will be the HDMI1.4 setup screen. If you have 1.3 inputs, you won't see any reference to HDMI1.4. SBS is side-by-side. On a plasma/LED, SBS is indistinguishable from CB. On a DLP, they may not be the same since CB doesn't work that well. So it's doubly important to get the iZ3D free trial since you are on DLP.
Do the research and try to find out if the cheap NGX glasses work with Mits. If so, then you're out just $80 and you can start answering some of these questions (iZ3D free trial). Then you could do us all a favor and report back on the SBS vs CB issue with DLP, something nobody has done so far.
[quote name='Vertigo-1' date='05 March 2011 - 02:41 PM' timestamp='1299361280' post='1202847']

1) I thought Andrew (the Nvidia mod/rep) had stated that they plan to add Checkerboard to 3DTV Play as a result of complaints in this thread? As for whether the TV in question is HDMI 1.3 or 1.4... I'm actually not sure. The model number is WD-73831 and it's a "3D-Ready TV" (I thought all 3D-Ready TV's had HDMI 1.4 support?) but I have tried finding online what kind of HDMI it supports but can't find any information. If it's 1.3 what would your answers have been?

Yes, Andrew is saying that, hence my prediction. All 2009 HDTVs are HDMI1.3, all Plasmas/LED 2010 models are 1.4, but I'm not sure about 2010 Mits. The difference is that if the 3D Vision detects 1.3, then you get checkerboard. If 1.4, you're stuck with 720P framepacking. Or, you can install the EDID override file "rollermod.inf" and get checkerboard with 1.4 and 3D Vision emitter. It's also possible that your set has 1.3, but is upgradeable to 1.4 via auto update by Mits. Problem is this upgrade is automatic, the upgrade happens without the users permission. A guy was enjoying full res 3D gaming (1.3) with his Mits. Overnight, the TV 'upgraded' itself to 1.4 and he was shocked to find he could no longer use the TV for 3D gaming, the TV was effectively ruined. You already have the Mits, so make sure it isn't plugged into the internet.



4) In order to try out those trials, I'd have to spend money since I don't have any glasses


I'm using the NXG glasses, they are compatible with Samsung. I'm pretty sure that Samsung and Mits use the same glasses, research this and see what you come upp with. If you get them at Amazon, you can return them if they don't work so there's no risk. http://www.amazon.com/NXG-Technology-NX-3DG-Shutter-Glasses/dp/B0046TNR42/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1299363542&sr=8-6



Also I'm confused as to how you are suggesting I "try out" 3D Vision and 3DTV play, without actually going out and buying 3D Vision since I don't yet have an emitter and glasses to try out 3D.


I assumed you already had glasses, and my "free trial" comments were strictly about iZ3D and TriDef. There's no free trial of 3D Vision, and 3DTV Play doesn't support checkerboard so there's no reason to try the 3DTV Play trial, at least until Nvidia fixes it.



I'm trying to determine where to spend my money and how I can achieve 1080p/60FPS gaming using the 73 inch TV we already own so I don't have to spend $500 on a 120hz 24inch monitor.


Not only that, but gaming on a teeny tiny 24" monitor wouldn't be much fun anyway. You need at least 50" to feel immersed, and the bigger the better, especially with 3D gaming. No matter what, you need to get the glasses, so you may as well get them right away. Just remember that Amazon's return policy is only 30 days.



Thanks for the reply and the help though, but I'm still confused. It would probably help if I knew if my TV was HDMI 1.3 or 1.4. How can I find out?


Easy, the setup program tell you. D/L CD1.45 3D Vision package from Nvidia and go through setup. If HDMI1.4, the first screen you come to will be the HDMI1.4 setup screen. If you have 1.3 inputs, you won't see any reference to HDMI1.4. SBS is side-by-side. On a plasma/LED, SBS is indistinguishable from CB. On a DLP, they may not be the same since CB doesn't work that well. So it's doubly important to get the iZ3D free trial since you are on DLP.

Do the research and try to find out if the cheap NGX glasses work with Mits. If so, then you're out just $80 and you can start answering some of these questions (iZ3D free trial). Then you could do us all a favor and report back on the SBS vs CB issue with DLP, something nobody has done so far.

Posted 03/05/2011 10:53 PM   
[quote name='roller11' date='05 March 2011 - 04:53 PM' timestamp='1299365584' post='1202881']
Yes, Andrew is saying that, hence my prediction. All 2009 HDTVs are HDMI1.3, all Plasmas/LED 2010 models are 1.4, but I'm not sure about 2010 Mits. The difference is that if the 3D Vision detects 1.3, then you get checkerboard. If 1.4, you're stuck with 720P framepacking. Or, you can install the EDID override file "rollermod.inf" and get checkerboard with 1.4 and 3D Vision emitter. It's also possible that your set has 1.3, but is upgradeable to 1.4 via auto update by Mits. Problem is this upgrade is automatic, the upgrade happens without the users permission. A guy was enjoying full res 3D gaming (1.3) with his Mits. Overnight, the TV 'upgraded' itself to 1.4 and he was shocked to find he could no longer use the TV for 3D gaming, the TV was effectively ruined. You already have the Mits, so make sure it isn't plugged into the internet.

I'm using the NXG glasses, they are compatible with Samsung. I'm pretty sure that Samsung and Mits use the same glasses, research this and see what you come upp with. If you get them at Amazon, you can return them if they don't work so there's no risk. http://www.amazon.com/NXG-Technology-NX-3DG-Shutter-Glasses/dp/B0046TNR42/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1299363542&sr=8-6


I assumed you already had glasses, and my "free trial" comments were strictly about iZ3D and TriDef. There's no free trial of 3D Vision, and 3DTV Play doesn't support checkerboard so there's no reason to try the 3DTV Play trial, at least until Nvidia fixes it.

Not only that, but gaming on a teeny tiny 24" monitor wouldn't be much fun anyway. You need at least 50" to feel immersed, and the bigger the better, especially with 3D gaming. No matter what, you need to get the glasses, so you may as well get them right away. Just remember that Amazon's return policy is only 30 days.


Easy, the setup program tell you. D/L CD1.45 3D Vision package from Nvidia and go through setup. If HDMI1.4, the first screen you come to will be the HDMI1.4 setup screen. If you have 1.3 inputs, you won't see any reference to HDMI1.4. SBS is side-by-side. On a plasma/LED, SBS is indistinguishable from CB. On a DLP, they may not be the same since CB doesn't work that well. So it's doubly important to get the iZ3D free trial since you are on DLP.
Do the research and try to find out if the cheap NGX glasses work with Mits. If so, then you're out just $80 and you can start answering some of these questions (iZ3D free trial). Then you could do us all a favor and report back on the SBS vs CB issue with DLP, something nobody has done so far.
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There's another problem I forgot to mention though (well I did mention it in my original post, but then forgot about it as being an issue). I don't have an Nvidia card currently. My plan was to find out what I need to get/what works, then buy the glasses/Mits 3D adapter/Nvidia 590 (when it comes out, wasn't it supposed to come out last month?) So I wouldn't be able to test it since I have an ATI 4890 which I imagine doesn't support the 3D Vision setup package.

Also, the TV is definitely not connected to the internet so there's no way that it would be able to be updated automatically, but based on this: http://www.mitsubishi-tv.com/3Dupgrade.html my TV model isn't supported in the update...I imagine that's because it's already 1.4? I'm pretty sure it is a 2009 model though. I have to double check, but I know for a fact that it uses "checkerboard" based on the retailer my dad got the TV at and I'm pretty sure when we first got the TV there's a greyed out "checkerboard" option in the settings. So yeah. I'd love to test it out to see what the hell I need to do, and to let you guys know if it works or not. But I'm still at a loss. Are you enjoying the NXG glasses? I was going to get those Optima glasses. The reviews seemed really good and the price is pretty much the same as the NXG, but if you recommend them and think they are the better choice I will probably end up going with them instead.

Edit: I called the retailer we purchased the TV from and gave them the model number. They told me that that model is HDMI 1.3.
[quote name='roller11' date='05 March 2011 - 04:53 PM' timestamp='1299365584' post='1202881']

Yes, Andrew is saying that, hence my prediction. All 2009 HDTVs are HDMI1.3, all Plasmas/LED 2010 models are 1.4, but I'm not sure about 2010 Mits. The difference is that if the 3D Vision detects 1.3, then you get checkerboard. If 1.4, you're stuck with 720P framepacking. Or, you can install the EDID override file "rollermod.inf" and get checkerboard with 1.4 and 3D Vision emitter. It's also possible that your set has 1.3, but is upgradeable to 1.4 via auto update by Mits. Problem is this upgrade is automatic, the upgrade happens without the users permission. A guy was enjoying full res 3D gaming (1.3) with his Mits. Overnight, the TV 'upgraded' itself to 1.4 and he was shocked to find he could no longer use the TV for 3D gaming, the TV was effectively ruined. You already have the Mits, so make sure it isn't plugged into the internet.



I'm using the NXG glasses, they are compatible with Samsung. I'm pretty sure that Samsung and Mits use the same glasses, research this and see what you come upp with. If you get them at Amazon, you can return them if they don't work so there's no risk. http://www.amazon.com/NXG-Technology-NX-3DG-Shutter-Glasses/dp/B0046TNR42/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1299363542&sr=8-6





I assumed you already had glasses, and my "free trial" comments were strictly about iZ3D and TriDef. There's no free trial of 3D Vision, and 3DTV Play doesn't support checkerboard so there's no reason to try the 3DTV Play trial, at least until Nvidia fixes it.



Not only that, but gaming on a teeny tiny 24" monitor wouldn't be much fun anyway. You need at least 50" to feel immersed, and the bigger the better, especially with 3D gaming. No matter what, you need to get the glasses, so you may as well get them right away. Just remember that Amazon's return policy is only 30 days.





Easy, the setup program tell you. D/L CD1.45 3D Vision package from Nvidia and go through setup. If HDMI1.4, the first screen you come to will be the HDMI1.4 setup screen. If you have 1.3 inputs, you won't see any reference to HDMI1.4. SBS is side-by-side. On a plasma/LED, SBS is indistinguishable from CB. On a DLP, they may not be the same since CB doesn't work that well. So it's doubly important to get the iZ3D free trial since you are on DLP.

Do the research and try to find out if the cheap NGX glasses work with Mits. If so, then you're out just $80 and you can start answering some of these questions (iZ3D free trial). Then you could do us all a favor and report back on the SBS vs CB issue with DLP, something nobody has done so far.





There's another problem I forgot to mention though (well I did mention it in my original post, but then forgot about it as being an issue). I don't have an Nvidia card currently. My plan was to find out what I need to get/what works, then buy the glasses/Mits 3D adapter/Nvidia 590 (when it comes out, wasn't it supposed to come out last month?) So I wouldn't be able to test it since I have an ATI 4890 which I imagine doesn't support the 3D Vision setup package.



Also, the TV is definitely not connected to the internet so there's no way that it would be able to be updated automatically, but based on this: http://www.mitsubishi-tv.com/3Dupgrade.html my TV model isn't supported in the update...I imagine that's because it's already 1.4? I'm pretty sure it is a 2009 model though. I have to double check, but I know for a fact that it uses "checkerboard" based on the retailer my dad got the TV at and I'm pretty sure when we first got the TV there's a greyed out "checkerboard" option in the settings. So yeah. I'd love to test it out to see what the hell I need to do, and to let you guys know if it works or not. But I'm still at a loss. Are you enjoying the NXG glasses? I was going to get those Optima glasses. The reviews seemed really good and the price is pretty much the same as the NXG, but if you recommend them and think they are the better choice I will probably end up going with them instead.



Edit: I called the retailer we purchased the TV from and gave them the model number. They told me that that model is HDMI 1.3.

Posted 03/05/2011 11:47 PM   
[quote name='andrewf@nvidia' date='10 February 2011 - 12:48 AM' timestamp='1297291725' post='1191445']
Hi

We are looking into adding checkerboard format to 3DTV Play.

Can I get a number of users that want this feature though?
[/quote]

Yes Please +1 for checkerboard
[quote name='andrewf@nvidia' date='10 February 2011 - 12:48 AM' timestamp='1297291725' post='1191445']

Hi



We are looking into adding checkerboard format to 3DTV Play.



Can I get a number of users that want this feature though?





Yes Please +1 for checkerboard

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Posted 03/06/2011 12:01 AM   
[b]Everyone go here and fill Nvidia Checkerboard survey:[/b]

https://surveys.nvidia.com/index.jsp?pi=d1ef9b2ebb0e93a22bd1e0ad89db654b

Cheers
Everyone go here and fill Nvidia Checkerboard survey:



https://surveys.nvidia.com/index.jsp?pi=d1ef9b2ebb0e93a22bd1e0ad89db654b



Cheers

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Posted 03/06/2011 01:36 AM   
So let me see if I understand this correctly yet (probably not lol). I have an older model Mitsubishi DLP "3D Ready" TV (73 inch, model: WD-73831). It is HDMI 1.3, NOT 1.4. With 3D Vision, am I able to plug it into the back of my TV's 3D sync port and use the Nvidia emitter coupled with samsung/Mits compatible 3D glasses (not Nvidia glasses if I understand correctly...), then I will be able to play 1080p w/60FPS on my PC using checkerboard?
So let me see if I understand this correctly yet (probably not lol). I have an older model Mitsubishi DLP "3D Ready" TV (73 inch, model: WD-73831). It is HDMI 1.3, NOT 1.4. With 3D Vision, am I able to plug it into the back of my TV's 3D sync port and use the Nvidia emitter coupled with samsung/Mits compatible 3D glasses (not Nvidia glasses if I understand correctly...), then I will be able to play 1080p w/60FPS on my PC using checkerboard?

Posted 03/06/2011 08:37 AM   
[quote name='Vertigo-1' date='06 March 2011 - 01:37 AM' timestamp='1299400629' post='1203038']
So let me see if I understand this correctly yet (probably not lol). I have an older model Mitsubishi DLP "3D Ready" TV (73 inch, model: WD-73831). It is HDMI 1.3, NOT 1.4. With 3D Vision, am I able to plug it into the back of my TV's 3D sync port and use the Nvidia emitter coupled with samsung/Mits compatible 3D glasses (not Nvidia glasses if I understand correctly...), then I will be able to play 1080p w/60FPS on my PC using checkerboard?
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Are you sure this (Mits WD-73831) is a 3D Ready TV? It appears to be 2006 vintage, I don't think 3D TVs existed then. Also, I can't find "3D" in any of the specs. Is there a "3D sync out" port on the back of the TV? Find a link that refers to its 3D feature and report back.
[quote name='Vertigo-1' date='06 March 2011 - 01:37 AM' timestamp='1299400629' post='1203038']

So let me see if I understand this correctly yet (probably not lol). I have an older model Mitsubishi DLP "3D Ready" TV (73 inch, model: WD-73831). It is HDMI 1.3, NOT 1.4. With 3D Vision, am I able to plug it into the back of my TV's 3D sync port and use the Nvidia emitter coupled with samsung/Mits compatible 3D glasses (not Nvidia glasses if I understand correctly...), then I will be able to play 1080p w/60FPS on my PC using checkerboard?





Are you sure this (Mits WD-73831) is a 3D Ready TV? It appears to be 2006 vintage, I don't think 3D TVs existed then. Also, I can't find "3D" in any of the specs. Is there a "3D sync out" port on the back of the TV? Find a link that refers to its 3D feature and report back.

Posted 03/06/2011 04:33 PM   
[quote name='roller11' date='06 March 2011 - 10:33 AM' timestamp='1299429233' post='1203163']
Are you sure this (Mits WD-73831) is a 3D Ready TV? It appears to be 2006 vintage, I don't think 3D TVs existed then. Also, I can't find "3D" in any of the specs. Is there a "3D sync out" port on the back of the TV? Find a link that refers to its 3D feature and report back.
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The box it came with had "3D Ready" plastered all over it. And I just checked in the back of the TV and there's a plug that says "3D Glasses Emitter." There's also 3D settings when I check out the menu options, with what looks to be an option for checkerboard.

Edit: BIG blunder. I just checked the model number/manufacture date on the back of the TV and it turns out the product manual we got in the box was wrong. The model number is actually 73737 manufactured in March 2010.

Edit 2: I called Mitsubishi to find out what version HDMI it is and to see if it's supported for internet updates, and it is apparently "1.3a" and it's not supported. So I'm stuck with 1.3 apparently and therefor can't use 3DTV play from what I understand.
[quote name='roller11' date='06 March 2011 - 10:33 AM' timestamp='1299429233' post='1203163']

Are you sure this (Mits WD-73831) is a 3D Ready TV? It appears to be 2006 vintage, I don't think 3D TVs existed then. Also, I can't find "3D" in any of the specs. Is there a "3D sync out" port on the back of the TV? Find a link that refers to its 3D feature and report back.





The box it came with had "3D Ready" plastered all over it. And I just checked in the back of the TV and there's a plug that says "3D Glasses Emitter." There's also 3D settings when I check out the menu options, with what looks to be an option for checkerboard.



Edit: BIG blunder. I just checked the model number/manufacture date on the back of the TV and it turns out the product manual we got in the box was wrong. The model number is actually 73737 manufactured in March 2010.



Edit 2: I called Mitsubishi to find out what version HDMI it is and to see if it's supported for internet updates, and it is apparently "1.3a" and it's not supported. So I'm stuck with 1.3 apparently and therefor can't use 3DTV play from what I understand.

Posted 03/06/2011 11:09 PM   
[quote name='Vertigo-1' date='06 March 2011 - 01:37 AM' timestamp='1299400629' post='1203038']
So let me see if I understand this correctly yet (probably not lol). I have an older model Mitsubishi DLP "3D Ready" TV (73 inch, model: WD-73831). It is HDMI 1.3, NOT 1.4. With 3D Vision, am I able to plug it into the back of my TV's 3D sync port and use the Nvidia emitter coupled with samsung/Mits compatible 3D glasses (not Nvidia glasses if I understand correctly...), then I will be able to play 1080p w/60FPS on my PC using checkerboard?
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thanks for the model number update. WD-73737 is shown as a HDMI1.3 3D Vision ready DLP TV under nvidia's system requirements. That means that it should be compatible with all nvidia 3D Vision software through CD1.45 and set up under 3D Vision (as oppsed to HDMI1.4 setup.). You will use Nvidia's emitter and glasses, both come in the 3D Vision kit. The supplied sync cable will plug into the sync out port on the TV, and into the round 3/32" hole on the emitter. I think the cost of the 3DVision kit is around $160. Under this scenario, you will buy only a 3D Vision kit and it will work with both the Mits and a computer monitor (3D Ready, of course). You will be able to play at 1920x1080/ 60 frames per eye on the monitor, and 1920x1080 checkerboard on the Mits.
A cheaper way might be get a pair of Mits glasses and use a software solution such as 3DTV Play, iZ3D, or TriDef 3D. Could you explain what this 'adaptor' is which you refered to in your first post? I'm not familiar with non-3D Vision solutions for the Mits, so I can't give a lot of help if you go this route. Does the wd-73737 support Mits link glasses?
Anyhow looks like the cost will be about the same either way (3D Vision or software only). You need to check into the compatibility of software with a computer monitor if that is a requirement.
[quote name='Vertigo-1' date='06 March 2011 - 01:37 AM' timestamp='1299400629' post='1203038']

So let me see if I understand this correctly yet (probably not lol). I have an older model Mitsubishi DLP "3D Ready" TV (73 inch, model: WD-73831). It is HDMI 1.3, NOT 1.4. With 3D Vision, am I able to plug it into the back of my TV's 3D sync port and use the Nvidia emitter coupled with samsung/Mits compatible 3D glasses (not Nvidia glasses if I understand correctly...), then I will be able to play 1080p w/60FPS on my PC using checkerboard?





thanks for the model number update. WD-73737 is shown as a HDMI1.3 3D Vision ready DLP TV under nvidia's system requirements. That means that it should be compatible with all nvidia 3D Vision software through CD1.45 and set up under 3D Vision (as oppsed to HDMI1.4 setup.). You will use Nvidia's emitter and glasses, both come in the 3D Vision kit. The supplied sync cable will plug into the sync out port on the TV, and into the round 3/32" hole on the emitter. I think the cost of the 3DVision kit is around $160. Under this scenario, you will buy only a 3D Vision kit and it will work with both the Mits and a computer monitor (3D Ready, of course). You will be able to play at 1920x1080/ 60 frames per eye on the monitor, and 1920x1080 checkerboard on the Mits.

A cheaper way might be get a pair of Mits glasses and use a software solution such as 3DTV Play, iZ3D, or TriDef 3D. Could you explain what this 'adaptor' is which you refered to in your first post? I'm not familiar with non-3D Vision solutions for the Mits, so I can't give a lot of help if you go this route. Does the wd-73737 support Mits link glasses?

Anyhow looks like the cost will be about the same either way (3D Vision or software only). You need to check into the compatibility of software with a computer monitor if that is a requirement.

Posted 03/07/2011 12:33 AM   
It's a sad day when you have to perform a hack job just to get the functionality you want. I commend the OP for this excellent work!
It's a sad day when you have to perform a hack job just to get the functionality you want. I commend the OP for this excellent work!

Posted 03/07/2011 02:07 AM   
[quote name='roller11' date='06 March 2011 - 06:33 PM' timestamp='1299458024' post='1203371']
thanks for the model number update. WD-73737 is shown as a HDMI1.3 3D Vision ready DLP TV under nvidia's system requirements. That means that it should be compatible with all nvidia 3D Vision software through CD1.45 and set up under 3D Vision (as oppsed to HDMI1.4 setup.). You will use Nvidia's emitter and glasses, both come in the 3D Vision kit. The supplied sync cable will plug into the sync out port on the TV, and into the round 3/32" hole on the emitter. I think the cost of the 3DVision kit is around $160. Under this scenario, you will buy only a 3D Vision kit and it will work with both the Mits and a computer monitor (3D Ready, of course). You will be able to play at 1920x1080/ 60 frames per eye on the monitor, and 1920x1080 checkerboard on the Mits.
A cheaper way might be get a pair of Mits glasses and use a software solution such as 3DTV Play, iZ3D, or TriDef 3D. Could you explain what this 'adaptor' is which you refered to in your first post? I'm not familiar with non-3D Vision solutions for the Mits, so I can't give a lot of help if you go this route. Does the wd-73737 support Mits link glasses?
Anyhow looks like the cost will be about the same either way (3D Vision or software only). You need to check into the compatibility of software with a computer monitor if that is a requirement.
[/quote]

Thanks for all of the info, it's been a huge help and it's definitely good to know that if I want I am able to get 1080p/60hz using just the Nvidia 3D Vision software. As for the adapter, there's two options. Getting the adapter "starter kit bundle" which is insanely overpriced: http://www.amazon.com/Mitsubishi-3DC-1000-HDTV-Starter-Pack/dp/B003KTN0B4/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1299464890&sr=1-2 or getting the adapter separate and then buying glasses separate, which would save money for sure: http://www.amazon.com/Mitsubishi-3DA-1-3D-Adapter-Pack/dp/B003S3RKZ4/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1299177983&sr=1-1 . I've confirmed that my TV is compatible with the adapter. I know you aren't familiar with it, but I don't NEED the adapter in order to use 3D Vision on my TV, do I? I figured the Nvidia GPU/Driver software acted as a 3D adapter for the TV but I could be wrong. From what I understand the adapter's main use is to get 3D television broadcast/hook up with a PS3/3D Blu ray player. In either case I might get it anyway so that I could do just that, but for the time being my main concern is using it to 3D PC game. I need to get my hands on an Nvidia card though, I'm still waiting to do some research on which one I should get. Was waiting on the 590 but I hear dual gpu video cards are kind of iffy and pointless at this point (and expensive).
[quote name='roller11' date='06 March 2011 - 06:33 PM' timestamp='1299458024' post='1203371']

thanks for the model number update. WD-73737 is shown as a HDMI1.3 3D Vision ready DLP TV under nvidia's system requirements. That means that it should be compatible with all nvidia 3D Vision software through CD1.45 and set up under 3D Vision (as oppsed to HDMI1.4 setup.). You will use Nvidia's emitter and glasses, both come in the 3D Vision kit. The supplied sync cable will plug into the sync out port on the TV, and into the round 3/32" hole on the emitter. I think the cost of the 3DVision kit is around $160. Under this scenario, you will buy only a 3D Vision kit and it will work with both the Mits and a computer monitor (3D Ready, of course). You will be able to play at 1920x1080/ 60 frames per eye on the monitor, and 1920x1080 checkerboard on the Mits.

A cheaper way might be get a pair of Mits glasses and use a software solution such as 3DTV Play, iZ3D, or TriDef 3D. Could you explain what this 'adaptor' is which you refered to in your first post? I'm not familiar with non-3D Vision solutions for the Mits, so I can't give a lot of help if you go this route. Does the wd-73737 support Mits link glasses?

Anyhow looks like the cost will be about the same either way (3D Vision or software only). You need to check into the compatibility of software with a computer monitor if that is a requirement.





Thanks for all of the info, it's been a huge help and it's definitely good to know that if I want I am able to get 1080p/60hz using just the Nvidia 3D Vision software. As for the adapter, there's two options. Getting the adapter "starter kit bundle" which is insanely overpriced: http://www.amazon.com/Mitsubishi-3DC-1000-HDTV-Starter-Pack/dp/B003KTN0B4/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1299464890&sr=1-2 or getting the adapter separate and then buying glasses separate, which would save money for sure: http://www.amazon.com/Mitsubishi-3DA-1-3D-Adapter-Pack/dp/B003S3RKZ4/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1299177983&sr=1-1 . I've confirmed that my TV is compatible with the adapter. I know you aren't familiar with it, but I don't NEED the adapter in order to use 3D Vision on my TV, do I? I figured the Nvidia GPU/Driver software acted as a 3D adapter for the TV but I could be wrong. From what I understand the adapter's main use is to get 3D television broadcast/hook up with a PS3/3D Blu ray player. In either case I might get it anyway so that I could do just that, but for the time being my main concern is using it to 3D PC game. I need to get my hands on an Nvidia card though, I'm still waiting to do some research on which one I should get. Was waiting on the 590 but I hear dual gpu video cards are kind of iffy and pointless at this point (and expensive).

Posted 03/07/2011 02:30 AM   
[quote name='Vertigo-1' date='06 March 2011 - 07:30 PM' timestamp='1299465050' post='1203398']

From what I understand the adapter's main use is to get 3D television broadcast/hook up with a PS3/3D Blu ray player.
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What??? To get 3D television broadcast you go from your DirecTV box to an HDMI input directly, no PS3/BluRay 3D device required. [quote]In either case I might get it anyway so that I could do just that,[/quote]
That would be an obsene waste of money. PS3, Blu Ray 3D, DirecTV all plug directly into an HDMI input. To watch Blu Ray 3D, you would use your 3D Vision emitter and glasses.
[quote name='Vertigo-1' date='06 March 2011 - 07:30 PM' timestamp='1299465050' post='1203398']



From what I understand the adapter's main use is to get 3D television broadcast/hook up with a PS3/3D Blu ray player.



What??? To get 3D television broadcast you go from your DirecTV box to an HDMI input directly, no PS3/BluRay 3D device required.
In either case I might get it anyway so that I could do just that,


That would be an obsene waste of money. PS3, Blu Ray 3D, DirecTV all plug directly into an HDMI input. To watch Blu Ray 3D, you would use your 3D Vision emitter and glasses.

Posted 03/07/2011 05:44 AM   
[quote name='roller11' date='06 March 2011 - 11:44 PM' timestamp='1299476653' post='1203448']
What??? To get 3D television broadcast you go from your DirecTV box to an HDMI input directly, no PS3/BluRay 3D device required.
That would be an obsene waste of money. PS3, Blu Ray 3D, DirecTV all plug directly into an HDMI input. To watch Blu Ray 3D, you would use your 3D Vision emitter and glasses.
[/quote]

I think you misread my post. I meant that the adapter allows you to do all of those things. IE: Use your DirecTV 3D, use Blu Ray 3D, etc. You need the adapter to do those things. In this case, I'm trying to confirm that the 3D Vision hardware/software takes the place of that adapter and that I don't need both. Here's the manual for the adapter if you're curious and if I'm not making it clear what the adapter is for:

http://www.mitsubishi-tv.com/pdf/specsheet-3DA1.pdf

So Nvidia 3D vision would also allow me to use 3D on my PS3? It's entirely possible I'm not getting the point of the adapter. I thought that (if it wasn't for 3D Vision) that without it 3D was impossible using my TV. Like I said, based on what you've said it seems that Nvidia 3D Vision is all I need. Just plug the emitter in the back of my TV and I should be good to go for PC and PS3?
[quote name='roller11' date='06 March 2011 - 11:44 PM' timestamp='1299476653' post='1203448']

What??? To get 3D television broadcast you go from your DirecTV box to an HDMI input directly, no PS3/BluRay 3D device required.

That would be an obsene waste of money. PS3, Blu Ray 3D, DirecTV all plug directly into an HDMI input. To watch Blu Ray 3D, you would use your 3D Vision emitter and glasses.





I think you misread my post. I meant that the adapter allows you to do all of those things. IE: Use your DirecTV 3D, use Blu Ray 3D, etc. You need the adapter to do those things. In this case, I'm trying to confirm that the 3D Vision hardware/software takes the place of that adapter and that I don't need both. Here's the manual for the adapter if you're curious and if I'm not making it clear what the adapter is for:



http://www.mitsubishi-tv.com/pdf/specsheet-3DA1.pdf



So Nvidia 3D vision would also allow me to use 3D on my PS3? It's entirely possible I'm not getting the point of the adapter. I thought that (if it wasn't for 3D Vision) that without it 3D was impossible using my TV. Like I said, based on what you've said it seems that Nvidia 3D Vision is all I need. Just plug the emitter in the back of my TV and I should be good to go for PC and PS3?

Posted 03/07/2011 05:57 AM   
[quote name='Vertigo-1' date='06 March 2011 - 10:57 PM' timestamp='1299477454' post='1203454']
I think you misread my post. I meant that the adapter allows you to do all of those things. IE: Use your DirecTV 3D, use Blu Ray 3D, etc. You need the adapter to do those things. In this case, I'm trying to confirm that the 3D Vision hardware/software takes the place of that adapter and that I don't need both. Here's the manual for the adapter if you're curious and if I'm not making it clear what the adapter is for:[/quote]
So a so-called "3D Ready Mits" isn't 3D Ready at all, 3D Ready = plug in a 3D device to the TV, and you get 3D images. You need to buy a seperate expensive 3D gadget to make the Mits 3D Ready. All other brands have the adaptor built-in, it's included with the TV. Not only that, but you must buy still another piece of hardware, the IR emitter. That sucks!
Last year I had a WD 65837 which is apparently from the same series as the 73737. I never had the adaptor or Mits glasses. I bought a 3D Vision kit and ran the included cable from the Mits sync out to sync in on the Nvidia emitter. I then connected the gtx480 DVI output to an HDMI input on the Mits. I used the nvidia glasses to do 3D gaming. So I still don't see why the adaptor is needed since I'm going straight from the gtx480 to the Mits input, obviously the TV is doing 3D processing without the help of the adaptor. I would assume that to do Blu Ray 3D, I would play the BR3D disc on my computer with a 3D software player, without the adaptor, which is what I do now. All this with only the 3D Vision kit.
[quote]Nvidia 3D vision would also allow me to use 3D on my PS3?[/quote]
Don't know, but I sure as heck would find out before I wasted 4-5 hundred bucks on an adaptor I don't need.
[quote]It's entirely possible I'm not getting the point of the adapter.[/quote]
You and me both!
[quote]I thought that (if it wasn't for 3D Vision) that without it 3D was impossible using my TV. Like I said, based on what you've said it seems that Nvidia 3D Vision is all I need. Just plug the emitter in the back of my TV and I should be good to go for PC and PS3?
[/quote]
I never tested 3D Vision with anything other than games, so I can't say for sure. My advice is to get a 3D Vision kit and see what works. Be sure to buy everything from Amazon because they will give you 100% refund on whatever it turns out you don't need.
[quote name='Vertigo-1' date='06 March 2011 - 10:57 PM' timestamp='1299477454' post='1203454']

I think you misread my post. I meant that the adapter allows you to do all of those things. IE: Use your DirecTV 3D, use Blu Ray 3D, etc. You need the adapter to do those things. In this case, I'm trying to confirm that the 3D Vision hardware/software takes the place of that adapter and that I don't need both. Here's the manual for the adapter if you're curious and if I'm not making it clear what the adapter is for:

So a so-called "3D Ready Mits" isn't 3D Ready at all, 3D Ready = plug in a 3D device to the TV, and you get 3D images. You need to buy a seperate expensive 3D gadget to make the Mits 3D Ready. All other brands have the adaptor built-in, it's included with the TV. Not only that, but you must buy still another piece of hardware, the IR emitter. That sucks!

Last year I had a WD 65837 which is apparently from the same series as the 73737. I never had the adaptor or Mits glasses. I bought a 3D Vision kit and ran the included cable from the Mits sync out to sync in on the Nvidia emitter. I then connected the gtx480 DVI output to an HDMI input on the Mits. I used the nvidia glasses to do 3D gaming. So I still don't see why the adaptor is needed since I'm going straight from the gtx480 to the Mits input, obviously the TV is doing 3D processing without the help of the adaptor. I would assume that to do Blu Ray 3D, I would play the BR3D disc on my computer with a 3D software player, without the adaptor, which is what I do now. All this with only the 3D Vision kit.

Nvidia 3D vision would also allow me to use 3D on my PS3?


Don't know, but I sure as heck would find out before I wasted 4-5 hundred bucks on an adaptor I don't need.

It's entirely possible I'm not getting the point of the adapter.


You and me both!

I thought that (if it wasn't for 3D Vision) that without it 3D was impossible using my TV. Like I said, based on what you've said it seems that Nvidia 3D Vision is all I need. Just plug the emitter in the back of my TV and I should be good to go for PC and PS3?



I never tested 3D Vision with anything other than games, so I can't say for sure. My advice is to get a 3D Vision kit and see what works. Be sure to buy everything from Amazon because they will give you 100% refund on whatever it turns out you don't need.

Posted 03/07/2011 05:31 PM   
Thanks again for all the help. I'm gearing up to get all the stuff to "try" and see if they work. If they don't or if I'm not satisfied, I'll return it. You said Amazon has a 100% return policy, but does that include when the items are being shipped from other vendors? Because both the Mits adapter and the glasses are not directly shipped/sold through Amazon it seems.

Tomorrow I'm going to go to my local retailer (which for sure allows for me to return these items; I asked.) and I'm going to get a GeForce video card and Nvidia 3D Vision to test that out. After all is said and done I'll be able to see what works/what doesn't/what I like/what to keep.

I'm probably going to return the Mits Adapter and glasses, but I'm curious as to how the PS3 blu ray movies/games compare to the PC Nvidia Vision (I'm mainly wanting 3D for PC, but I'm curious so I'll try both then go from there)

Edit: I was digging around some and found someone who had posted this:
[quote]
My PS3 is attached to a Mitsubishi WD-73737 73" DLP TV (3D ready). I just got a pair of XpanD X102 3D glasses ($150). These glasses don't require an emitter or a PC-I put my Avatar game and the TV on 3D, turned on the glasses, and I was in business! I saw the movie in IMAX 3D, and the game is no less impressive in its format. Now that I know they work, I'm going to order another pair in anticipation of DirecTV's 3D channel coming up in March and the additional content that is sure to come available through Blu-Ray movies and games. They really do work![/quote]

and another:
[quote]
I was skeptical at first to get this, but it worked out great. These glasses are best to use with the 3D ready DLP HDTVs. They don't require a separate ER emitter. The glasses sync up to the TV, using the TV's DLP-Link function, without an IR emitter. I have a Samsung HL67A750 TV with a Panasonic DMP-BDT100 Blu-Ray DVD player. Panasonic is the only one that you can set up to play in a checkerboard format. Samsung players do not work in this format. [/quote]

It seems that all I need are DLP link glasses for my TV to watch 3D content on the PS3 and I don't need the adapter after all? (unless getting non-DLP link glasses) Not sure why the second review said checkerboard only works with Panasonic, since the Mits DLPs definitely do as well (also those were reviews for separate DLP link glasses, the first one was the xpanD ones, the second was Optoma). So instead of buying an IR emitter for the Mits, I think I'm going to go for this pair of glasses that apparently has "DLP-Link" that links automatically to the TV: http://www.amazon.com/Optoma-BG-ZD101-Glasses-Interchangeable-Pieces/dp/B003Q96CCC/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1299548484&sr=1-2 I guess that also means I don't need the adapter to use those glasses? God this is so needlessly confusing.

Edit: Found this step by step guide for 3D for my particular model: http://www.3dglassesunlimited.com/mitsubishi-wd73737-dlp-3d-ready-hdtv-73-inch-p-101.html seems you need the adapter despite getting "DLP-Link Glasses" but not the emitter. Also according to them DLP Link glasses aren't as good as IR glasses. And damn I didn't realize the emitter is MORE expensive than the adapter...so I'm calling it quits on that whole thing. Just going to get 3D Vision, a graphics card, and call it done.
Thanks again for all the help. I'm gearing up to get all the stuff to "try" and see if they work. If they don't or if I'm not satisfied, I'll return it. You said Amazon has a 100% return policy, but does that include when the items are being shipped from other vendors? Because both the Mits adapter and the glasses are not directly shipped/sold through Amazon it seems.



Tomorrow I'm going to go to my local retailer (which for sure allows for me to return these items; I asked.) and I'm going to get a GeForce video card and Nvidia 3D Vision to test that out. After all is said and done I'll be able to see what works/what doesn't/what I like/what to keep.



I'm probably going to return the Mits Adapter and glasses, but I'm curious as to how the PS3 blu ray movies/games compare to the PC Nvidia Vision (I'm mainly wanting 3D for PC, but I'm curious so I'll try both then go from there)



Edit: I was digging around some and found someone who had posted this:



My PS3 is attached to a Mitsubishi WD-73737 73" DLP TV (3D ready). I just got a pair of XpanD X102 3D glasses ($150). These glasses don't require an emitter or a PC-I put my Avatar game and the TV on 3D, turned on the glasses, and I was in business! I saw the movie in IMAX 3D, and the game is no less impressive in its format. Now that I know they work, I'm going to order another pair in anticipation of DirecTV's 3D channel coming up in March and the additional content that is sure to come available through Blu-Ray movies and games. They really do work!




and another:



I was skeptical at first to get this, but it worked out great. These glasses are best to use with the 3D ready DLP HDTVs. They don't require a separate ER emitter. The glasses sync up to the TV, using the TV's DLP-Link function, without an IR emitter. I have a Samsung HL67A750 TV with a Panasonic DMP-BDT100 Blu-Ray DVD player. Panasonic is the only one that you can set up to play in a checkerboard format. Samsung players do not work in this format.




It seems that all I need are DLP link glasses for my TV to watch 3D content on the PS3 and I don't need the adapter after all? (unless getting non-DLP link glasses) Not sure why the second review said checkerboard only works with Panasonic, since the Mits DLPs definitely do as well (also those were reviews for separate DLP link glasses, the first one was the xpanD ones, the second was Optoma). So instead of buying an IR emitter for the Mits, I think I'm going to go for this pair of glasses that apparently has "DLP-Link" that links automatically to the TV: http://www.amazon.com/Optoma-BG-ZD101-Glasses-Interchangeable-Pieces/dp/B003Q96CCC/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1299548484&sr=1-2 I guess that also means I don't need the adapter to use those glasses? God this is so needlessly confusing.



Edit: Found this step by step guide for 3D for my particular model: http://www.3dglassesunlimited.com/mitsubishi-wd73737-dlp-3d-ready-hdtv-73-inch-p-101.html seems you need the adapter despite getting "DLP-Link Glasses" but not the emitter. Also according to them DLP Link glasses aren't as good as IR glasses. And damn I didn't realize the emitter is MORE expensive than the adapter...so I'm calling it quits on that whole thing. Just going to get 3D Vision, a graphics card, and call it done.

Posted 03/08/2011 01:44 AM   
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