I agree I don't care for 4K right now....its barely buttery smooth performance for 2d 4K games.
Let alone our handicapped CPU issue with 3D Vision software....1440P still requires hefty firepower.
I agree I don't care for 4K right now....its barely buttery smooth performance for 2d 4K games.
Let alone our handicapped CPU issue with 3D Vision software....1440P still requires hefty firepower.
Asus Maximus X Hero Z370
MSI Gaming X 1080Ti (2100 mhz OC Watercooled)
8700k (4.7ghz OC Watercooled)
16gb DDR4 3000 Ram
500GB SAMSUNG 860 EVO SERIES SSD M.2
Dell S2716DG owner here, after owning the VG278HE for a few years. The upgrade is ok, maybe like 20% better. It's a bit sharper, the brightness is better than the VG for 3d games that look too dark I have no problems with the Dell. I wish I could have upgraded to the new 4k tv's and just ran at 1080p instead, may have been a better.
Dell S2716DG owner here, after owning the VG278HE for a few years. The upgrade is ok, maybe like 20% better. It's a bit sharper, the brightness is better than the VG for 3d games that look too dark I have no problems with the Dell. I wish I could have upgraded to the new 4k tv's and just ran at 1080p instead, may have been a better.
[quote="Blacksmith56"][quote="masterotaku"]About current 1440p monitors, I have the Dell S2716DG. The biggest problems are the vertical scanlines pattern caused by pixel inversion (which affects the whole screen in 3D) and more ghosting than my old BenQ XL2411Z. I got used to those flaws, but having a monitor without them would be awesome.[/quote]
I hope that's not the case with the Asus PG278QR, I could be settle with 1440P for now, 4K is too demanding for the time being IMO[/quote]
Hell even 1440p is too demanding for 3d imo. (if you like good frame rates)
But with a 4k screen you should be able to downscale to 1080p for 3d with minimal if any image quality loss from not running in native from what I understand as it's a direct downscale, which is the problem with 1440p monitors going down to 1080p
masterotaku said:About current 1440p monitors, I have the Dell S2716DG. The biggest problems are the vertical scanlines pattern caused by pixel inversion (which affects the whole screen in 3D) and more ghosting than my old BenQ XL2411Z. I got used to those flaws, but having a monitor without them would be awesome.
I hope that's not the case with the Asus PG278QR, I could be settle with 1440P for now, 4K is too demanding for the time being IMO
Hell even 1440p is too demanding for 3d imo. (if you like good frame rates)
But with a 4k screen you should be able to downscale to 1080p for 3d with minimal if any image quality loss from not running in native from what I understand as it's a direct downscale, which is the problem with 1440p monitors going down to 1080p
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ASUS Turbo 2080TI
Samsung SSD 840Pro
ASUS Z97-WS3D
Surround ASUS Rog Swift PG278Q(R), 2x PG278Q (yes it works)
Obutto R3volution.
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Well, for anyone interested in the S2716DG, it's on sale atm for $410. Might be US only?
http://dealnews.com/Dell-27-1440-p-GSync-LED-LCD-Display-for-410-free-shipping/1930688.html
Non integer upscaling isn't a problem for me when I use 1080p in my 1440p monitor. There is mandatory (sadly) bilinear filtering anyway so there shouldn't be much difference compared to a resolution that is an exact divisor, like 720p.
I will welcome a 4K 3D Vision monitor because I also play old games where I already try hard to push my GPU (crazy supersampling, downscaling, etc).
Non integer upscaling isn't a problem for me when I use 1080p in my 1440p monitor. There is mandatory (sadly) bilinear filtering anyway so there shouldn't be much difference compared to a resolution that is an exact divisor, like 720p.
I will welcome a 4K 3D Vision monitor because I also play old games where I already try hard to push my GPU (crazy supersampling, downscaling, etc).
I think it's significant image quality loss above the drop to 1080p on the previous version everything looks a little blurry and less defined on the PG278Q but I ultimately decided to play witcher 3 at 1080p to keep a constant 60fps, and found it a ultimately preferable experience.
My hope is with a 1080ti SLI upgrade I will be able to maintain 1440p at least while keeping a general 60fps
I think it's significant image quality loss above the drop to 1080p on the previous version everything looks a little blurry and less defined on the PG278Q but I ultimately decided to play witcher 3 at 1080p to keep a constant 60fps, and found it a ultimately preferable experience.
My hope is with a 1080ti SLI upgrade I will be able to maintain 1440p at least while keeping a general 60fps
i7-4790K CPU 4.8Ghz stable overclock.
16 GB RAM Corsair
ASUS Turbo 2080TI
Samsung SSD 840Pro
ASUS Z97-WS3D
Surround ASUS Rog Swift PG278Q(R), 2x PG278Q (yes it works)
Obutto R3volution.
Windows 10 pro 64x (Windows 7 Dual boot)
[quote="necropants"]I ultimately decided to play witcher 3 at 1080p to keep a constant 60fps, and found it a ultimately preferable experience.[/quote]How does 1080 looks on a 1440 monitor?
[quote]My hope is with a 1080ti SLI upgrade I will be able to maintain 1440p at least while keeping a general 60fps[/quote]Ok so you're fortunate enough for that, that's nice. I took a quick look at gofundme after saying this the other day but it's facebook focused and that's not my friends at all I want to solicitate so I don't think it will happen as I don't know how I could talk about it confortably.
necropants said:I ultimately decided to play witcher 3 at 1080p to keep a constant 60fps, and found it a ultimately preferable experience.
How does 1080 looks on a 1440 monitor?
My hope is with a 1080ti SLI upgrade I will be able to maintain 1440p at least while keeping a general 60fps
Ok so you're fortunate enough for that, that's nice. I took a quick look at gofundme after saying this the other day but it's facebook focused and that's not my friends at all I want to solicitate so I don't think it will happen as I don't know how I could talk about it confortably.
You will see I already answered that question, and I don't understand what you are talking about with the rest. =). I am rather picky though and I found the image loss bearable. Just looks a little worse than native 1080p but it's a small price to pay to run at a nice fast stable framerate in 3d.
Some people don't mind games at 30fps, I would prefer to sacrifice resolution most of the time.
You will see I already answered that question, and I don't understand what you are talking about with the rest. =). I am rather picky though and I found the image loss bearable. Just looks a little worse than native 1080p but it's a small price to pay to run at a nice fast stable framerate in 3d.
Some people don't mind games at 30fps, I would prefer to sacrifice resolution most of the time.
i7-4790K CPU 4.8Ghz stable overclock.
16 GB RAM Corsair
ASUS Turbo 2080TI
Samsung SSD 840Pro
ASUS Z97-WS3D
Surround ASUS Rog Swift PG278Q(R), 2x PG278Q (yes it works)
Obutto R3volution.
Windows 10 pro 64x (Windows 7 Dual boot)
[quote="necropants"]and I don't understand what you are talking about with the rest. =).[/quote]
[img]http://u.cubeupload.com/masterotaku/necropants.png[/img]
I think that's what Rhialto means.
Edit: or more like this:
[img]http://u.cubeupload.com/masterotaku/necropantsti.png[/img]
[quote="D-Man11"]Well, for anyone interested in the S2716DG, it's on sale atm for $410. Might be US only?[/quote]
Yeah, unfortunatelly Dell seems to be far more agressive in the US :)
[quote="masterotaku"]Non integer upscaling isn't a problem for me when I use 1080p in my 1440p monitor. There is mandatory (sadly) bilinear filtering anyway so there shouldn't be much difference compared to a resolution that is an exact divisor, like 720p.
I will welcome a 4K 3D Vision monitor because I also play old games where I already try hard to push my GPU (crazy supersampling, downscaling, etc).[/quote]
That was what I was hoping for, at least it seems to be an ok option, for now anyway !
I also have a weak spot for old games, and 1440P DSRx4 would also be nice :)
[quote="necropants"]My hope is with a 1080ti SLI upgrade I will be able to maintain 1440p at least while keeping a general 60fps[/quote]
That sounds like a reasonable wish, from a golddigger :)
D-Man11 said:Well, for anyone interested in the S2716DG, it's on sale atm for $410. Might be US only?
Yeah, unfortunatelly Dell seems to be far more agressive in the US :)
masterotaku said:Non integer upscaling isn't a problem for me when I use 1080p in my 1440p monitor. There is mandatory (sadly) bilinear filtering anyway so there shouldn't be much difference compared to a resolution that is an exact divisor, like 720p.
I will welcome a 4K 3D Vision monitor because I also play old games where I already try hard to push my GPU (crazy supersampling, downscaling, etc).
That was what I was hoping for, at least it seems to be an ok option, for now anyway !
I also have a weak spot for old games, and 1440P DSRx4 would also be nice :)
necropants said:My hope is with a 1080ti SLI upgrade I will be able to maintain 1440p at least while keeping a general 60fps
That sounds like a reasonable wish, from a golddigger :)
Win7 64bit Pro
CPU: 4790K 4.8 GHZ
GPU: Asus Geforce RTX 2080 TI Rog Strix OC
Monitor: Asus PG278QR
And lots of ram and HD's ;)
I forgot about this post by Techlore, where he suggests that 4K panels using IPS and Quantom dots will not be compatible with 3D Vision.
This would be due to trhe fact of the polarizer filter on the screen and the orientation of the crystals in Nvidia's glasses.
[quote="Techlore"]The new Asus PG258Q is the new 240hz monitor that is 3D vision certified. It was just featured this week at CES. If you pull up the Linus tech tips CES review on youtube you will clearly see the 3D vision lable on the stand.
https://rog.asus.com/articles/gaming-monitors/rog-swift-pg258q/
The problem us 3D vision users have is that the way 3D vision inversion works is only compatible with verticle pattern of TN pannels. With things moving to IPS, Q dot, OLED, they are just flat out not compatible with the way 3D vision works. And with VR on the rise that takes any attention away from developing 3D monitors for our niche community[/quote]
Personally, I've no idea. I do know, that the polarized overlay on 3D Vision displays, is the reason why you can not use 3D in portrait mode.
I forgot about this post by Techlore, where he suggests that 4K panels using IPS and Quantom dots will not be compatible with 3D Vision.
This would be due to trhe fact of the polarizer filter on the screen and the orientation of the crystals in Nvidia's glasses.
Techlore said:The new Asus PG258Q is the new 240hz monitor that is 3D vision certified. It was just featured this week at CES. If you pull up the Linus tech tips CES review on youtube you will clearly see the 3D vision lable on the stand.
The problem us 3D vision users have is that the way 3D vision inversion works is only compatible with verticle pattern of TN pannels. With things moving to IPS, Q dot, OLED, they are just flat out not compatible with the way 3D vision works. And with VR on the rise that takes any attention away from developing 3D monitors for our niche community
Personally, I've no idea. I do know, that the polarized overlay on 3D Vision displays, is the reason why you can not use 3D in portrait mode.
I just got the Asus PG278QR, and previously I had the Asus PG278Q (older version). I also tried Dell S2716DG. Here's my conclusion and advice. Currently PG278QR is the best 1440p monitor money can buy. There's almost no ghosting, least ghosting in all monitors I've tried since 2009 when 3D launched, quality issues have been apparently resolved, and most important of all, pixel inversion and scanlines are fixed about 90%.
My advice - BestBuy here in Canada has 14 days no question asked return policy. I assume it's the same in U.S. Any number of monitors you are considering and comparing, buy them all, test them all for a week, keep the best one and return the bad ones. That's what I always do coz I'm a bit of perfectionist when it comes to dead pixels, ghosting etc.
I tested Dell S2716DG. The ghosting is horrible even after a lot of calibration, and pixel inversion is same as Asus PG278Q (old model).
Now I have PG278QR and the older PG278Q. I always have 2 1440p monitors coz you'll never know when 3D disappears from the market. Having one as backup lol. I'm selling Asus VG278HE and Samsung 2233RZ.
I just got the Asus PG278QR, and previously I had the Asus PG278Q (older version). I also tried Dell S2716DG. Here's my conclusion and advice. Currently PG278QR is the best 1440p monitor money can buy. There's almost no ghosting, least ghosting in all monitors I've tried since 2009 when 3D launched, quality issues have been apparently resolved, and most important of all, pixel inversion and scanlines are fixed about 90%.
My advice - BestBuy here in Canada has 14 days no question asked return policy. I assume it's the same in U.S. Any number of monitors you are considering and comparing, buy them all, test them all for a week, keep the best one and return the bad ones. That's what I always do coz I'm a bit of perfectionist when it comes to dead pixels, ghosting etc.
I tested Dell S2716DG. The ghosting is horrible even after a lot of calibration, and pixel inversion is same as Asus PG278Q (old model).
Now I have PG278QR and the older PG278Q. I always have 2 1440p monitors coz you'll never know when 3D disappears from the market. Having one as backup lol. I'm selling Asus VG278HE and Samsung 2233RZ.
[quote="Captain007"]I just got the Asus PG278QR, and previously I had the Asus PG278Q (older version). I also tried Dell S2716DG. Here's my conclusion and advice. Currently PG278QR is the best 1440p monitor money can buy. There's almost no ghosting, least ghosting in all monitors I've tried since 2009 when 3D launched, quality issues have been apparently resolved, and most important of all, pixel inversion and scanlines are fixed about 90%.
My advice - BestBuy here in Canada has 14 days no question asked return policy. I assume it's the same in U.S. Any number of monitors you are considering and comparing, buy them all, test them all for a week, keep the best one and return the bad ones. That's what I always do coz I'm a bit of perfectionist when it comes to dead pixels, ghosting etc.
I tested Dell S2716DG. The ghosting is horrible even after a lot of calibration, and pixel inversion is same as Asus PG278Q (old model).
Now I have PG278QR and the older PG278Q. I always have 2 1440p monitors coz you'll never know when 3D disappears from the market. Having one as backup lol. I'm selling Asus VG278HE and Samsung 2233RZ.[/quote]
Wow.. That sounds great, allmost to good to be true.. You're right, it's essential to have some backup hardware :)
Captain007 said:I just got the Asus PG278QR, and previously I had the Asus PG278Q (older version). I also tried Dell S2716DG. Here's my conclusion and advice. Currently PG278QR is the best 1440p monitor money can buy. There's almost no ghosting, least ghosting in all monitors I've tried since 2009 when 3D launched, quality issues have been apparently resolved, and most important of all, pixel inversion and scanlines are fixed about 90%.
My advice - BestBuy here in Canada has 14 days no question asked return policy. I assume it's the same in U.S. Any number of monitors you are considering and comparing, buy them all, test them all for a week, keep the best one and return the bad ones. That's what I always do coz I'm a bit of perfectionist when it comes to dead pixels, ghosting etc.
I tested Dell S2716DG. The ghosting is horrible even after a lot of calibration, and pixel inversion is same as Asus PG278Q (old model).
Now I have PG278QR and the older PG278Q. I always have 2 1440p monitors coz you'll never know when 3D disappears from the market. Having one as backup lol. I'm selling Asus VG278HE and Samsung 2233RZ.
Wow.. That sounds great, allmost to good to be true.. You're right, it's essential to have some backup hardware :)
Win7 64bit Pro
CPU: 4790K 4.8 GHZ
GPU: Asus Geforce RTX 2080 TI Rog Strix OC
Monitor: Asus PG278QR
And lots of ram and HD's ;)
Let alone our handicapped CPU issue with 3D Vision software....1440P still requires hefty firepower.
Gaming Rig 1
i7 5820K 3.3ghz (Stock Clock)
GTX 1080 Founders Edition (Stock Clock)
16GB DDR4 2400 RAM
512 SAMSUNG 840 PRO
Gaming Rig 2
My new build
Asus Maximus X Hero Z370
MSI Gaming X 1080Ti (2100 mhz OC Watercooled)
8700k (4.7ghz OC Watercooled)
16gb DDR4 3000 Ram
500GB SAMSUNG 860 EVO SERIES SSD M.2
Hell even 1440p is too demanding for 3d imo. (if you like good frame rates)
But with a 4k screen you should be able to downscale to 1080p for 3d with minimal if any image quality loss from not running in native from what I understand as it's a direct downscale, which is the problem with 1440p monitors going down to 1080p
i7-4790K CPU 4.8Ghz stable overclock.
16 GB RAM Corsair
ASUS Turbo 2080TI
Samsung SSD 840Pro
ASUS Z97-WS3D
Surround ASUS Rog Swift PG278Q(R), 2x PG278Q (yes it works)
Obutto R3volution.
Windows 10 pro 64x (Windows 7 Dual boot)
What do the owners of the the Asus PG278QR say ??
Win7 64bit Pro
CPU: 4790K 4.8 GHZ
GPU: Asus Geforce RTX 2080 TI Rog Strix OC
Monitor: Asus PG278QR
And lots of ram and HD's ;)
http://dealnews.com/Dell-27-1440-p-GSync-LED-LCD-Display-for-410-free-shipping/1930688.html
I will welcome a 4K 3D Vision monitor because I also play old games where I already try hard to push my GPU (crazy supersampling, downscaling, etc).
CPU: Intel Core i7 7700K @ 4.9GHz
Motherboard: Gigabyte Aorus GA-Z270X-Gaming 5
RAM: GSKILL Ripjaws Z 16GB 3866MHz CL18
GPU: MSI GeForce RTX 2080Ti Gaming X Trio
Monitor: Asus PG278QR
Speakers: Logitech Z506
Donations account: masterotakusuko@gmail.com
My hope is with a 1080ti SLI upgrade I will be able to maintain 1440p at least while keeping a general 60fps
i7-4790K CPU 4.8Ghz stable overclock.
16 GB RAM Corsair
ASUS Turbo 2080TI
Samsung SSD 840Pro
ASUS Z97-WS3D
Surround ASUS Rog Swift PG278Q(R), 2x PG278Q (yes it works)
Obutto R3volution.
Windows 10 pro 64x (Windows 7 Dual boot)
Ok so you're fortunate enough for that, that's nice. I took a quick look at gofundme after saying this the other day but it's facebook focused and that's not my friends at all I want to solicitate so I don't think it will happen as I don't know how I could talk about it confortably.
3D Vision must live! NVIDIA, don't let us down!
Some people don't mind games at 30fps, I would prefer to sacrifice resolution most of the time.
i7-4790K CPU 4.8Ghz stable overclock.
16 GB RAM Corsair
ASUS Turbo 2080TI
Samsung SSD 840Pro
ASUS Z97-WS3D
Surround ASUS Rog Swift PG278Q(R), 2x PG278Q (yes it works)
Obutto R3volution.
Windows 10 pro 64x (Windows 7 Dual boot)
I think that's what Rhialto means.
Edit: or more like this:
CPU: Intel Core i7 7700K @ 4.9GHz
Motherboard: Gigabyte Aorus GA-Z270X-Gaming 5
RAM: GSKILL Ripjaws Z 16GB 3866MHz CL18
GPU: MSI GeForce RTX 2080Ti Gaming X Trio
Monitor: Asus PG278QR
Speakers: Logitech Z506
Donations account: masterotakusuko@gmail.com
Yeah, unfortunatelly Dell seems to be far more agressive in the US :)
That was what I was hoping for, at least it seems to be an ok option, for now anyway !
I also have a weak spot for old games, and 1440P DSRx4 would also be nice :)
That sounds like a reasonable wish, from a golddigger :)
Win7 64bit Pro
CPU: 4790K 4.8 GHZ
GPU: Asus Geforce RTX 2080 TI Rog Strix OC
Monitor: Asus PG278QR
And lots of ram and HD's ;)
This would be due to trhe fact of the polarizer filter on the screen and the orientation of the crystals in Nvidia's glasses.
Personally, I've no idea. I do know, that the polarized overlay on 3D Vision displays, is the reason why you can not use 3D in portrait mode.
My advice - BestBuy here in Canada has 14 days no question asked return policy. I assume it's the same in U.S. Any number of monitors you are considering and comparing, buy them all, test them all for a week, keep the best one and return the bad ones. That's what I always do coz I'm a bit of perfectionist when it comes to dead pixels, ghosting etc.
I tested Dell S2716DG. The ghosting is horrible even after a lot of calibration, and pixel inversion is same as Asus PG278Q (old model).
Now I have PG278QR and the older PG278Q. I always have 2 1440p monitors coz you'll never know when 3D disappears from the market. Having one as backup lol. I'm selling Asus VG278HE and Samsung 2233RZ.
3D Vision must live! NVIDIA, don't let us down!
Wow.. That sounds great, allmost to good to be true.. You're right, it's essential to have some backup hardware :)
Win7 64bit Pro
CPU: 4790K 4.8 GHZ
GPU: Asus Geforce RTX 2080 TI Rog Strix OC
Monitor: Asus PG278QR
And lots of ram and HD's ;)