3DTV Play in Side by Side mode Will Nvidia considering adding SbS?
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Comon guys, lets keep this on topic, its IMPORTANT! Take side topics to their existing threads.

If your someone who would like side-by-side support, an increase in detail over 720p, let Nvidia know, post here.
Comon guys, lets keep this on topic, its IMPORTANT! Take side topics to their existing threads.



If your someone who would like side-by-side support, an increase in detail over 720p, let Nvidia know, post here.

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#16
Posted 06/19/2011 04:18 PM   
[quote name='Likay' date='19 June 2011 - 02:21 AM' timestamp='1308471672' post='1253747']
The point is that inferior is not the word to use. Both companies are doing a great job. Since i still see reports where iz3d or tridef sometimes performs better than nvidia with certain games (there are even threads on this forum) it's certainly wrong to say nvidia is that superior right?
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No, that is not right. If iZ3D/TriDef were 'just as good' as 3DV, people would not be jumping through flaming hoops backwards to get 3DV. Why would people be spending $120.00 on a 3DV kit, plus doing an .inf hack, plus building custom squarewave generators from scratch to get 3DV when they could spend $40 on iZ3D? This contradiction proves my point.
To make an "A vs B" comparison, you must have eyewitnessed both A and B. Have you done this?
[quote name='Likay' date='19 June 2011 - 02:21 AM' timestamp='1308471672' post='1253747']

The point is that inferior is not the word to use. Both companies are doing a great job. Since i still see reports where iz3d or tridef sometimes performs better than nvidia with certain games (there are even threads on this forum) it's certainly wrong to say nvidia is that superior right?



No, that is not right. If iZ3D/TriDef were 'just as good' as 3DV, people would not be jumping through flaming hoops backwards to get 3DV. Why would people be spending $120.00 on a 3DV kit, plus doing an .inf hack, plus building custom squarewave generators from scratch to get 3DV when they could spend $40 on iZ3D? This contradiction proves my point.

To make an "A vs B" comparison, you must have eyewitnessed both A and B. Have you done this?

#17
Posted 06/19/2011 05:04 PM   
[quote name='Hixbot' date='19 June 2011 - 10:16 AM' timestamp='1308492976' post='1253827']
That's my point, if 3DTV Play is useless to me due to lack of SbS, I'll just get an AMD card and use Tridef or Iz3d. Why buy Nvidia if I can't benefit from their software, and they refuse to support the simple requests of their customers?



That's a ridiculous reason. PC gamers are used to intervention. Besides, framepacking mode could be still offered to those who want automatic convenience. Also in many ways SbS is the simplest to deal with. Old HDMI AVRs will support it. It's a simple frame compatible format that has few headaches to implement. Turn your TV to manual SbS and enjoy. This is all on top of the fact that SbS looks MUCH better than 720p fp.
The xbox 360 uses SbS to support 3D. If xbox gamers can handle putting their TVs into SbS surely a PC gamer could figure it out.



That's the wrong attitude. I'm sure if many, many people signed a petition, and Nvidia realized how many sales they are losing, they'd reconsider.



I want to buy a plasma TV and I want the benefit of 2011 plasma TVs that have less crosstalk. 2010 Samsung plasmas have much more crosstalk than the 2011 samsung plasmas. 2011 samsung plasmas beat the 2011 panasonic plasmas in crosstalk tests. I won't even consider a LED tv for more than just crosstalk reasons (2d picture). I like DLP but as long as DLP can't do full 1080p24 for bluray I won't consider them either. Truly, Nvidia is holding me back from spending a lot of coin on a new plasma and gaming computer. I will simply wait years until a new 3DTV and 3D drivers hit the performance I want. Or I'll jump on a 2011 sammy plasma and a gaming computer with an AMD card and Tridef and IZ3d.


Nvidia, 720p framepacking is terrible! Please listen to us!
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I hope you go look at both the VT30 and D8000 in 3D before buying the D8000.
Despite what CNET might have said about D8000 having better 3D it's actually false.
CNET is the only review site that has stated that the D8000 has better 3D. I've seen both sets and can say that VT30 is better and especially in dark scenes, where D8000 suffers.

D8000 also has 40ms of input lag whereas the VT30 has 20-24. BIG difference if you're a serious gamer.
[quote name='Hixbot' date='19 June 2011 - 10:16 AM' timestamp='1308492976' post='1253827']

That's my point, if 3DTV Play is useless to me due to lack of SbS, I'll just get an AMD card and use Tridef or Iz3d. Why buy Nvidia if I can't benefit from their software, and they refuse to support the simple requests of their customers?







That's a ridiculous reason. PC gamers are used to intervention. Besides, framepacking mode could be still offered to those who want automatic convenience. Also in many ways SbS is the simplest to deal with. Old HDMI AVRs will support it. It's a simple frame compatible format that has few headaches to implement. Turn your TV to manual SbS and enjoy. This is all on top of the fact that SbS looks MUCH better than 720p fp.

The xbox 360 uses SbS to support 3D. If xbox gamers can handle putting their TVs into SbS surely a PC gamer could figure it out.







That's the wrong attitude. I'm sure if many, many people signed a petition, and Nvidia realized how many sales they are losing, they'd reconsider.







I want to buy a plasma TV and I want the benefit of 2011 plasma TVs that have less crosstalk. 2010 Samsung plasmas have much more crosstalk than the 2011 samsung plasmas. 2011 samsung plasmas beat the 2011 panasonic plasmas in crosstalk tests. I won't even consider a LED tv for more than just crosstalk reasons (2d picture). I like DLP but as long as DLP can't do full 1080p24 for bluray I won't consider them either. Truly, Nvidia is holding me back from spending a lot of coin on a new plasma and gaming computer. I will simply wait years until a new 3DTV and 3D drivers hit the performance I want. Or I'll jump on a 2011 sammy plasma and a gaming computer with an AMD card and Tridef and IZ3d.





Nvidia, 720p framepacking is terrible! Please listen to us!



I hope you go look at both the VT30 and D8000 in 3D before buying the D8000.

Despite what CNET might have said about D8000 having better 3D it's actually false.

CNET is the only review site that has stated that the D8000 has better 3D. I've seen both sets and can say that VT30 is better and especially in dark scenes, where D8000 suffers.



D8000 also has 40ms of input lag whereas the VT30 has 20-24. BIG difference if you're a serious gamer.

#18
Posted 06/19/2011 05:14 PM   
[quote name='roller11' date='19 June 2011 - 07:04 PM' timestamp='1308503089' post='1253899']
No, that is not right. If iZ3D/TriDef were 'just as good' as 3DV, people would not be jumping through flaming hoops backwards to get 3DV. Why would people be spending $120.00 on a 3DV kit, plus doing an .inf hack, plus building custom squarewave generators from scratch to get 3DV when they could spend $40 on iZ3D? This contradiction proves my point.
To make an "A vs B" comparison, you must have eyewitnessed both A and B. Have you done this?
[/quote]So ok: For my practical experience with 3dvison is a shop demorig consisting of the 2233RZ and 3d-visionglasses. The experience was awful with doubled image in both higher as well as the lower edge of the screen. Since i'm hanging around here i know that it certainly shouldn't be counted as 3d-vision as it's best. A far relative of mine have an optoma whatever model which works great with 3d-vision which i've seen recently. I don't have the practical oppurtunity seeing this too often so yes, my 3d-vision experience is really shallow. I know that you as well as i is familiar with the forums so the threads where people says iz3d is better than nvidia shouldn't had missed your attention. This is the reference i use when saying that some people actually would like a choice between the different softwares and to choose which one that works best. That's actually the point i want to make in my first post.
If you scour through the iz3d-forums you would know that people are trying "jumping through flaming hoops backwards" to get their shutters working with iz3d (their shuttersupport is indeed until now unexistent) so your example shows how persistent people are to get it going. Maybe it's that some already uses nvida and want another choice of software too?

Edit, chiming in to let go i'm completely newb: I have a way greater experience with crt-monitors + dlp-projectors with old-school nvidia and seen enough to know that i won't invest in an active rig. At least not in it's current stage (the experience is actually pretty much the same as for almost ten years ago which is kind of hilarious....). Just more anomalies which i blame newer dx and gamedevs for.
[quote name='roller11' date='19 June 2011 - 07:04 PM' timestamp='1308503089' post='1253899']

No, that is not right. If iZ3D/TriDef were 'just as good' as 3DV, people would not be jumping through flaming hoops backwards to get 3DV. Why would people be spending $120.00 on a 3DV kit, plus doing an .inf hack, plus building custom squarewave generators from scratch to get 3DV when they could spend $40 on iZ3D? This contradiction proves my point.

To make an "A vs B" comparison, you must have eyewitnessed both A and B. Have you done this?

So ok: For my practical experience with 3dvison is a shop demorig consisting of the 2233RZ and 3d-visionglasses. The experience was awful with doubled image in both higher as well as the lower edge of the screen. Since i'm hanging around here i know that it certainly shouldn't be counted as 3d-vision as it's best. A far relative of mine have an optoma whatever model which works great with 3d-vision which i've seen recently. I don't have the practical oppurtunity seeing this too often so yes, my 3d-vision experience is really shallow. I know that you as well as i is familiar with the forums so the threads where people says iz3d is better than nvidia shouldn't had missed your attention. This is the reference i use when saying that some people actually would like a choice between the different softwares and to choose which one that works best. That's actually the point i want to make in my first post.

If you scour through the iz3d-forums you would know that people are trying "jumping through flaming hoops backwards" to get their shutters working with iz3d (their shuttersupport is indeed until now unexistent) so your example shows how persistent people are to get it going. Maybe it's that some already uses nvida and want another choice of software too?



Edit, chiming in to let go i'm completely newb: I have a way greater experience with crt-monitors + dlp-projectors with old-school nvidia and seen enough to know that i won't invest in an active rig. At least not in it's current stage (the experience is actually pretty much the same as for almost ten years ago which is kind of hilarious....). Just more anomalies which i blame newer dx and gamedevs for.

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Mb: Asus P5W DH Deluxe

Cpu: C2D E6600

Gb: Nvidia 7900GT + 8800GTX

3D:100" passive projector polarized setup + 22" IZ3D

Stereodrivers: Iz3d & Tridef ignition and nvidia old school.

#19
Posted 06/19/2011 07:00 PM   
[quote name='Likay' date='19 June 2011 - 01:00 PM' timestamp='1308510022' post='1253944']
I know that you as well as i is familiar with the forums so the threads where people says iz3d is better than nvidia shouldn't had missed your attention.[/quote]
If your claim has changed to "some guy said iZ3D is better than 3D Vision" then provide a link to this statement because I sure haven't seen any such thing. This should be easy because there must be hundreds of such statements.
[quote name='Likay' date='19 June 2011 - 01:00 PM' timestamp='1308510022' post='1253944']

I know that you as well as i is familiar with the forums so the threads where people says iz3d is better than nvidia shouldn't had missed your attention.

If your claim has changed to "some guy said iZ3D is better than 3D Vision" then provide a link to this statement because I sure haven't seen any such thing. This should be easy because there must be hundreds of such statements.

#20
Posted 06/19/2011 09:59 PM   
Where do you find that my claim has changed?: "(I wouldn't say iz3d or tridef are inferior in any way compared to 3d-vision but i lack the oppurtunity to try and compare.)"
One example of a userexperience is just a few threads below... http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=198856. If you search you will find even more (but maybe you repressed it /wink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' />
Still: It isn't the point. You say that iz3d and tridef are inferior which at least in my eyes/ears is a ridiculous statement because:

Nvidia: Vista and above only.
Iz3d: Besides vista/win7 Xp also supported.

Nvidia: Only nvidiaapproved products will work out of the box (yeah, yeah... infhacks in all honor....)
Iz3d: If the device supports a format from the driver it works.

Nvidia: Only 8000 and above Nvidiacards...
Iz3d: Works on any hardware if it runs the game (as with nvidia bugs can occur that ruins a game totally in stereo).

3dvision is often plagued by the same issues as iz3d with certain games (assassins creed 2/brotherhood for just an example have exact same issues in 3d).

On 3d-vision proside: Sli-support, anticheatcompability. Maybe better performance in 3d but a quick try with assassins creed brotherhood and nvidia discover vs iz3d showed no noticeable difference.

My point is: Sometimes 3d-vision works better , sometimes iz3d is better, sometimes tridef. That is a fact. It would be nice to have a choice without the need of buying inferior hardware. I would personally pay for nvidiasupport just for the oppurtunity to choose the visually best driver for a specific game. And believe me: It's not always nvidia.
Are we done?
Where do you find that my claim has changed?: "(I wouldn't say iz3d or tridef are inferior in any way compared to 3d-vision but i lack the oppurtunity to try and compare.)"

One example of a userexperience is just a few threads below... http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=198856. If you search you will find even more (but maybe you repressed it /wink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' />

Still: It isn't the point. You say that iz3d and tridef are inferior which at least in my eyes/ears is a ridiculous statement because:



Nvidia: Vista and above only.

Iz3d: Besides vista/win7 Xp also supported.



Nvidia: Only nvidiaapproved products will work out of the box (yeah, yeah... infhacks in all honor....)

Iz3d: If the device supports a format from the driver it works.



Nvidia: Only 8000 and above Nvidiacards...

Iz3d: Works on any hardware if it runs the game (as with nvidia bugs can occur that ruins a game totally in stereo).



3dvision is often plagued by the same issues as iz3d with certain games (assassins creed 2/brotherhood for just an example have exact same issues in 3d).



On 3d-vision proside: Sli-support, anticheatcompability. Maybe better performance in 3d but a quick try with assassins creed brotherhood and nvidia discover vs iz3d showed no noticeable difference.



My point is: Sometimes 3d-vision works better , sometimes iz3d is better, sometimes tridef. That is a fact. It would be nice to have a choice without the need of buying inferior hardware. I would personally pay for nvidiasupport just for the oppurtunity to choose the visually best driver for a specific game. And believe me: It's not always nvidia.

Are we done?

Image

Mb: Asus P5W DH Deluxe

Cpu: C2D E6600

Gb: Nvidia 7900GT + 8800GTX

3D:100" passive projector polarized setup + 22" IZ3D

Stereodrivers: Iz3d & Tridef ignition and nvidia old school.

#21
Posted 06/19/2011 11:16 PM   
I can give one specific example where DDD TriDef Ignition is better: on source games (HL2, L42) you can put the 3D settings very high and the gun does not get extremely doubled as it does on Nvidia (and also IZ3D). This is because DDD allows you to have different settings which will keep different objects in focus (for example, the gun) while still adding depth to the background. With Nvidia if you want to get high depth on HL2/L4D you end up will an uncomfortably doubled gun. This is just one example.
I can give one specific example where DDD TriDef Ignition is better: on source games (HL2, L42) you can put the 3D settings very high and the gun does not get extremely doubled as it does on Nvidia (and also IZ3D). This is because DDD allows you to have different settings which will keep different objects in focus (for example, the gun) while still adding depth to the background. With Nvidia if you want to get high depth on HL2/L4D you end up will an uncomfortably doubled gun. This is just one example.
#22
Posted 06/20/2011 12:49 AM   
[quote name='Likay' date='19 June 2011 - 05:16 PM' timestamp='1308525408' post='1254010']
Where do you find that my claim has changed?: "(I wouldn't say iz3d or tridef are inferior in any way compared to 3d-vision but i lack the oppurtunity to try and compare.)"
One example of a userexperience is just a few threads below... http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=198856. If you search you will find even more (but maybe you repressed it /wink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' />[/quote]
I repressed it??? To repress it, I would have to read it in the first place. Why would I read a thread that has absolutely nothing to do with my config? This example has nothing to do with this thread. This thread refers to 3D gaming on a HDTV with TV makers glasses. Your bogus example is using a computer monitor with Nvidia glasses.

[quote]Still: It isn't the point. You say that iz3d and tridef are inferior which at least in my eyes/ears is a ridiculous statement because:

Nvidia: Vista and above only.
Iz3d: Besides vista/win7 Xp also supported.[/quote]
I was refering to quality, not compatibility. This is bogus for anyone who is compatible.

[quote]Nvidia: Only nvidiaapproved products will work out of the box (yeah, yeah... infhacks in all honor....)
Iz3d: If the device supports a format from the driver it works.[/quote]
I was refering to quality, not compatibility. This is bogus for anyone who is compatible.

[quote]Nvidia: Only 8000 and above Nvidiacards...
Iz3d: Works on any hardware if it runs the game (as with nvidia bugs can occur that ruins a game totally in stereo).[/quote]
I was refering to quality, not compatibility. This is bogus for anyone who is compatible.





[quote]My point is: Sometimes 3d-vision works better , sometimes iz3d is better, sometimes tridef. That is a fact. It would be nice to have a choice without the need of buying inferior hardware. I would personally pay for nvidiasupport just for the oppurtunity to choose the visually best driver for a specific game. And believe me: It's not always nvidia.
[/quote]
Your statement:
"I wouldn't say iz3d or tridef are inferior in any way compared to 3d-vision" is the logical equivalent to "I would say iz3d or tridef are not inferior in any way compared to 3d-vision".
To say that iZ3D is the equal of 3DV *IN EVERY WAY* is very untrue. 3D Vision has better game support for starters. In CoD black ops, there are gross rendering errors in iZ3D that don't exist in 3DV. In 9 games I tried with iZ3D, in every case the gun models stuck out of the screen. In every case 3D Vision had more depth. This was not fixable in iZ3D because adding depth caused uncorrectable misconvergence, That is, convergence is off except at one exact point. Only decreasing depth helped, but with 3DV, great depth without misconvergence.
Here are four quick examples of 3DV superior to iZ3D. You say that there are zero ways 3DV is superior.

I'm not saying that there is nothing that is better about iZ3D vs 3DV. No doubt if I played infinitely many games I could find one that iZ3D does better. I am saying that it is incorrect to say that iZ3D is at least as good as 3DV IN EVERY WAY.
Everyone I've seen express an opinion on iZ3D vs 3DV in terms of overall quality has it the same order. 3DV > TriDef 3D > iZ3D. This obviously assumes that all three are compatible with the hardware.
As to your non-relevant link, I don't see any of those problems with the 275.27 drivers. No halos, no water rendering errors. If your have a specific example of an error with 3DV, by all means specify the game and the nature of the error. Better yet, take a 3D screen shot and post it. I would love to hold a pic of 3DV next to iZ3D and see an error that 3DV has that iZ3D does not have.

If you were right, if iZ3D was 'just as good' as 3DV, then people wouldn't be jumping through hoops backwards to get 3DV to work. They would take the easy way and just use iZ3D. To legitimize your claim, you need to explain this contradiction.
Sure, it's good to have a choice, but that's not what I'm taking issue with.
[quote name='Likay' date='19 June 2011 - 05:16 PM' timestamp='1308525408' post='1254010']

Where do you find that my claim has changed?: "(I wouldn't say iz3d or tridef are inferior in any way compared to 3d-vision but i lack the oppurtunity to try and compare.)"

One example of a userexperience is just a few threads below... http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=198856. If you search you will find even more (but maybe you repressed it /wink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' />

I repressed it??? To repress it, I would have to read it in the first place. Why would I read a thread that has absolutely nothing to do with my config? This example has nothing to do with this thread. This thread refers to 3D gaming on a HDTV with TV makers glasses. Your bogus example is using a computer monitor with Nvidia glasses.



Still: It isn't the point. You say that iz3d and tridef are inferior which at least in my eyes/ears is a ridiculous statement because:



Nvidia: Vista and above only.

Iz3d: Besides vista/win7 Xp also supported.


I was refering to quality, not compatibility. This is bogus for anyone who is compatible.



Nvidia: Only nvidiaapproved products will work out of the box (yeah, yeah... infhacks in all honor....)

Iz3d: If the device supports a format from the driver it works.


I was refering to quality, not compatibility. This is bogus for anyone who is compatible.



Nvidia: Only 8000 and above Nvidiacards...

Iz3d: Works on any hardware if it runs the game (as with nvidia bugs can occur that ruins a game totally in stereo).


I was refering to quality, not compatibility. This is bogus for anyone who is compatible.











My point is: Sometimes 3d-vision works better , sometimes iz3d is better, sometimes tridef. That is a fact. It would be nice to have a choice without the need of buying inferior hardware. I would personally pay for nvidiasupport just for the oppurtunity to choose the visually best driver for a specific game. And believe me: It's not always nvidia.



Your statement:

"I wouldn't say iz3d or tridef are inferior in any way compared to 3d-vision" is the logical equivalent to "I would say iz3d or tridef are not inferior in any way compared to 3d-vision".

To say that iZ3D is the equal of 3DV *IN EVERY WAY* is very untrue. 3D Vision has better game support for starters. In CoD black ops, there are gross rendering errors in iZ3D that don't exist in 3DV. In 9 games I tried with iZ3D, in every case the gun models stuck out of the screen. In every case 3D Vision had more depth. This was not fixable in iZ3D because adding depth caused uncorrectable misconvergence, That is, convergence is off except at one exact point. Only decreasing depth helped, but with 3DV, great depth without misconvergence.

Here are four quick examples of 3DV superior to iZ3D. You say that there are zero ways 3DV is superior.



I'm not saying that there is nothing that is better about iZ3D vs 3DV. No doubt if I played infinitely many games I could find one that iZ3D does better. I am saying that it is incorrect to say that iZ3D is at least as good as 3DV IN EVERY WAY.

Everyone I've seen express an opinion on iZ3D vs 3DV in terms of overall quality has it the same order. 3DV > TriDef 3D > iZ3D. This obviously assumes that all three are compatible with the hardware.

As to your non-relevant link, I don't see any of those problems with the 275.27 drivers. No halos, no water rendering errors. If your have a specific example of an error with 3DV, by all means specify the game and the nature of the error. Better yet, take a 3D screen shot and post it. I would love to hold a pic of 3DV next to iZ3D and see an error that 3DV has that iZ3D does not have.



If you were right, if iZ3D was 'just as good' as 3DV, then people wouldn't be jumping through hoops backwards to get 3DV to work. They would take the easy way and just use iZ3D. To legitimize your claim, you need to explain this contradiction.

Sure, it's good to have a choice, but that's not what I'm taking issue with.

#23
Posted 06/20/2011 01:29 AM   
This thread is out of control. Argue over what's better somewhere else. Does anyone else want Side by Side support on 3DTV play?
This thread is out of control. Argue over what's better somewhere else. Does anyone else want Side by Side support on 3DTV play?

#24
Posted 06/20/2011 01:58 AM   
[quote name='Hixbot' date='19 June 2011 - 06:58 PM' timestamp='1308535139' post='1254056']
This thread is out of control. Argue over what's better somewhere else. Does anyone else want Side by Side support on 3DTV play?
[/quote]

Me. I would love side by side support, and nvidia is silly for not doing it, because pretty much EVERY hdtv/projector supports side by side. INCLUDE THIS IN 3DTV PLAY PLEASE!
[quote name='Hixbot' date='19 June 2011 - 06:58 PM' timestamp='1308535139' post='1254056']

This thread is out of control. Argue over what's better somewhere else. Does anyone else want Side by Side support on 3DTV play?





Me. I would love side by side support, and nvidia is silly for not doing it, because pretty much EVERY hdtv/projector supports side by side. INCLUDE THIS IN 3DTV PLAY PLEASE!

#25
Posted 06/20/2011 01:33 PM   
[quote name='Hixbot' date='20 June 2011 - 02:58 AM' timestamp='1308535139' post='1254056']
This thread is out of control. Argue over what's better somewhere else. Does anyone else want Side by Side support on 3DTV play?
[/quote]

Yes i'd like to see sBs support aswell as support for other 3d formats.
I know nvidia are looking for a seamless 3d experience but at the end of the day having to " set keyboard shortcuts " to unlock convercence is a user having to manually mess with settings!
Why not under neath convergence ect just add a windowbox to change between 3d formats, 3d plays regardless but the option is there none-the-less.
[quote name='Hixbot' date='20 June 2011 - 02:58 AM' timestamp='1308535139' post='1254056']

This thread is out of control. Argue over what's better somewhere else. Does anyone else want Side by Side support on 3DTV play?





Yes i'd like to see sBs support aswell as support for other 3d formats.

I know nvidia are looking for a seamless 3d experience but at the end of the day having to " set keyboard shortcuts " to unlock convercence is a user having to manually mess with settings!

Why not under neath convergence ect just add a windowbox to change between 3d formats, 3d plays regardless but the option is there none-the-less.

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#26
Posted 06/20/2011 03:57 PM   
[quote name='Hixbot' date='19 June 2011 - 08:16 AM' timestamp='1308492976' post='1253827']
That's a ridiculous reason. PC gamers are used to intervention.[/quote]
Of course it's a ridiculous reason, but this is precisely what Andrew told us in this forum on JAn.19 in the "nvidia, did you kill 3D Vision?" thread. Look it up if you like, I think it is post #58.

I was you seven months ago, tearing my hair out over why Nvidia would needlessly deny native resolution gaming in 3DTV Play, especially when 3DV had it. When Andrew finally gave us the answer, I was shocked but at least I was able to stop asking "why Nvidia, why???"

I'm not critcizing you for begging Nvidia, I just don't want you to have false expectations since there have been dozens of "we want SBS" petitions over the last six months.
Don't expect any help from nvidia, you're on your own, only you can make it happen.
[quote name='Hixbot' date='19 June 2011 - 08:16 AM' timestamp='1308492976' post='1253827']

That's a ridiculous reason. PC gamers are used to intervention.

Of course it's a ridiculous reason, but this is precisely what Andrew told us in this forum on JAn.19 in the "nvidia, did you kill 3D Vision?" thread. Look it up if you like, I think it is post #58.



I was you seven months ago, tearing my hair out over why Nvidia would needlessly deny native resolution gaming in 3DTV Play, especially when 3DV had it. When Andrew finally gave us the answer, I was shocked but at least I was able to stop asking "why Nvidia, why???"



I'm not critcizing you for begging Nvidia, I just don't want you to have false expectations since there have been dozens of "we want SBS" petitions over the last six months.

Don't expect any help from nvidia, you're on your own, only you can make it happen.

#27
Posted 06/20/2011 04:16 PM   
He said that in January, and then in February said he was looking into checkerboard for 3DTV play. I prefer to go by his most recent claim on that issue. It's healthier to have a positive attitude. I have faith that Andrew will give us an updated response.

Even if SbS was added to 3D vision (and not 3DTV Play), that would be something to work with.
He said that in January, and then in February said he was looking into checkerboard for 3DTV play. I prefer to go by his most recent claim on that issue. It's healthier to have a positive attitude. I have faith that Andrew will give us an updated response.



Even if SbS was added to 3D vision (and not 3DTV Play), that would be something to work with.

#28
Posted 06/21/2011 03:08 AM   
[quote name='Hixbot' date='20 June 2011 - 09:08 PM' timestamp='1308625727' post='1254519']
He said that in January, and then in February said he was looking into checkerboard for 3DTV play. I prefer to go by his most recent claim on that issue. It's healthier to have a positive attitude. I have faith that Andrew will give us an updated response.

Even if SbS was added to 3D vision (and not 3DTV Play), that would be something to work with.
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Andrew's latest update is that CB in 3DTV Play has not even been scheduled yet, and CB won't be in the next release.
A promise is absolutely meaningless without a time frame. SBS is 10 times the effort of CB, SBS hasn't even been designed. When asked, Nvidia's response to SBS is "no comment".
[quote name='Hixbot' date='20 June 2011 - 09:08 PM' timestamp='1308625727' post='1254519']

He said that in January, and then in February said he was looking into checkerboard for 3DTV play. I prefer to go by his most recent claim on that issue. It's healthier to have a positive attitude. I have faith that Andrew will give us an updated response.



Even if SbS was added to 3D vision (and not 3DTV Play), that would be something to work with.



Andrew's latest update is that CB in 3DTV Play has not even been scheduled yet, and CB won't be in the next release.

A promise is absolutely meaningless without a time frame. SBS is 10 times the effort of CB, SBS hasn't even been designed. When asked, Nvidia's response to SBS is "no comment".

#29
Posted 06/21/2011 04:59 AM   
Does side-by-side work like framepacking, ie, are both images sent at the same time, etc?

Doesn't seem like it would be hard to program at all considering what your asking the pixel information to do.
Does side-by-side work like framepacking, ie, are both images sent at the same time, etc?



Doesn't seem like it would be hard to program at all considering what your asking the pixel information to do.

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#30
Posted 06/23/2011 02:16 AM   
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