need help with final desition on projector
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I keep going around and around with the choose of a projector. I figured I would just put the top 3 all togeather and then have your guys tell me the best.
1. Acer h5360 (Doesnt have Monitor updates
2. Viewsonic PJD6531w (has monitor drivers and firmware update on website I like that)
3. DepthQ®-WXGA HD 3D (4000 to 6000 hours bulb)

all are 3d all do 1280 x 720 so whats up which one is the best
I keep going around and around with the choose of a projector. I figured I would just put the top 3 all togeather and then have your guys tell me the best.

1. Acer h5360 (Doesnt have Monitor updates

2. Viewsonic PJD6531w (has monitor drivers and firmware update on website I like that)

3. DepthQ®-WXGA HD 3D (4000 to 6000 hours bulb)



all are 3d all do 1280 x 720 so whats up which one is the best

Core I7 960 4ghz

Evga 760

12G ram

1 intel ssd os, 2 veloraptor in raid, 2 2tb hardrives in raid



gtx 480 sli

thermaltake 1500watt power supply.

Samsung blueray burner

acer h5360

acer 23 inch monitor x 3 for 3dvs. (3d vision surrond)



Now i hope the world doesnt end anytime soon. I wanna play with my toys for a bit more.

#1
Posted 06/07/2010 05:33 AM   
[quote name='alanwest09872' post='1069387' date='Jun 7 2010, 03:33 PM']I keep going around and around with the choose of a projector. I figured I would just put the top 3 all togeather and then have your guys tell me the best.
1. Acer h5360 (Doesnt have Monitor updates
2. Viewsonic PJD6531w (has monitor drivers and firmware update on website I like that)
3. DepthQ®-WXGA HD 3D (4000 to 6000 hours bulb)

all are 3d all do 1280 x 720 so whats up which one is the best[/quote]

Number 4. HD66 or HD67 this is the best of the bunch to me at the moment for 720P projectors.
I read more issues with the Acer then the Optoma, previously the only issue with Optoma was it was out in the cold not being Nvidia authorised but that has changed recently and we are now cooking with gas /shifty.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':shifty:' />

DepthQ I wouldn't bother as you will kick yourself when you see 1080P projectors in the future that are cheaper and better than this, it's overpriced in my opinion.
[quote name='alanwest09872' post='1069387' date='Jun 7 2010, 03:33 PM']I keep going around and around with the choose of a projector. I figured I would just put the top 3 all togeather and then have your guys tell me the best.

1. Acer h5360 (Doesnt have Monitor updates

2. Viewsonic PJD6531w (has monitor drivers and firmware update on website I like that)

3. DepthQ®-WXGA HD 3D (4000 to 6000 hours bulb)



all are 3d all do 1280 x 720 so whats up which one is the best



Number 4. HD66 or HD67 this is the best of the bunch to me at the moment for 720P projectors.

I read more issues with the Acer then the Optoma, previously the only issue with Optoma was it was out in the cold not being Nvidia authorised but that has changed recently and we are now cooking with gas /shifty.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':shifty:' />



DepthQ I wouldn't bother as you will kick yourself when you see 1080P projectors in the future that are cheaper and better than this, it's overpriced in my opinion.

#2
Posted 06/07/2010 07:44 AM   
1. Acer h5360 (Doesnt have Monitor updates)

wat
1. Acer h5360 (Doesnt have Monitor updates)



wat

#3
Posted 06/07/2010 08:35 AM   
optoma and the h5360 are the same thing.

Would you please stop this bullcrap, whether this DARKCHIP3 beamer is better than that DARKCHIP3 beamer, when the difference is marginal at best?

Plus You have 16:10 instead of 16:9 and thats not at all better, since with true 720p material you get cut down pixel utilization , that means cut down brightness as well.

Actually the optoma can't even reach 700 lumens in 3d, which means the depthQ pj is more than 3x times brighter, hence usable in a far wider scenario.

Obviously I would buy the Acer since the bulb is friggin cheap. Actually im going for two.
optoma and the h5360 are the same thing.



Would you please stop this bullcrap, whether this DARKCHIP3 beamer is better than that DARKCHIP3 beamer, when the difference is marginal at best?



Plus You have 16:10 instead of 16:9 and thats not at all better, since with true 720p material you get cut down pixel utilization , that means cut down brightness as well.



Actually the optoma can't even reach 700 lumens in 3d, which means the depthQ pj is more than 3x times brighter, hence usable in a far wider scenario.



Obviously I would buy the Acer since the bulb is friggin cheap. Actually im going for two.

#4
Posted 06/07/2010 08:42 AM   
[quote name='bullripper' post='1069429' date='Jun 7 2010, 03:44 AM']Number 4. HD66 or HD67 this is the best of the bunch to me at the moment for 720P projectors.
I read more issues with the Acer then the Optoma, previously the only issue with Optoma was it was out in the cold not being Nvidia authorised but that has changed recently and we are now cooking with gas /shifty.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':shifty:' />

DepthQ I wouldn't bother as you will kick yourself when you see 1080P projectors in the future that are cheaper and better than this, it's overpriced in my opinion.[/quote]
after you said about the upside down glasses and it seemed difficult to hook up that kind of scared me away sorry bro its def nicer though wish it worked right.
[quote name='bullripper' post='1069429' date='Jun 7 2010, 03:44 AM']Number 4. HD66 or HD67 this is the best of the bunch to me at the moment for 720P projectors.

I read more issues with the Acer then the Optoma, previously the only issue with Optoma was it was out in the cold not being Nvidia authorised but that has changed recently and we are now cooking with gas /shifty.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':shifty:' />



DepthQ I wouldn't bother as you will kick yourself when you see 1080P projectors in the future that are cheaper and better than this, it's overpriced in my opinion.

after you said about the upside down glasses and it seemed difficult to hook up that kind of scared me away sorry bro its def nicer though wish it worked right.

Core I7 960 4ghz

Evga 760

12G ram

1 intel ssd os, 2 veloraptor in raid, 2 2tb hardrives in raid



gtx 480 sli

thermaltake 1500watt power supply.

Samsung blueray burner

acer h5360

acer 23 inch monitor x 3 for 3dvs. (3d vision surrond)



Now i hope the world doesnt end anytime soon. I wanna play with my toys for a bit more.

#5
Posted 06/07/2010 09:16 AM   
[quote name='tritosine' post='1069445' date='Jun 7 2010, 04:42 AM']optoma and the h5360 are the same thing.

Would you please stop this bullcrap, whether this DARKCHIP3 beamer is better than that DARKCHIP3 beamer, when the difference is marginal at best?

Plus You have 16:10 instead of 16:9 and thats not at all better, since with true 720p material you get cut down pixel utilization , that means cut down brightness as well.

Actually the optoma can't even reach 700 lumens in 3d, which means the depthQ pj is more than 3x times brighter, hence usable in a far wider scenario.

Obviously I would buy the Acer since the bulb is friggin cheap. Actually im going for two.[/quote]
Im sorry Im not trying to be a pain to everyone just its a big decision and I want best of the best and really want to do this the right way. And since I trust you guys I really like your opinion. Just let this post die then I didnt mean to upset anyone I am sorry.
[quote name='tritosine' post='1069445' date='Jun 7 2010, 04:42 AM']optoma and the h5360 are the same thing.



Would you please stop this bullcrap, whether this DARKCHIP3 beamer is better than that DARKCHIP3 beamer, when the difference is marginal at best?



Plus You have 16:10 instead of 16:9 and thats not at all better, since with true 720p material you get cut down pixel utilization , that means cut down brightness as well.



Actually the optoma can't even reach 700 lumens in 3d, which means the depthQ pj is more than 3x times brighter, hence usable in a far wider scenario.



Obviously I would buy the Acer since the bulb is friggin cheap. Actually im going for two.

Im sorry Im not trying to be a pain to everyone just its a big decision and I want best of the best and really want to do this the right way. And since I trust you guys I really like your opinion. Just let this post die then I didnt mean to upset anyone I am sorry.

Core I7 960 4ghz

Evga 760

12G ram

1 intel ssd os, 2 veloraptor in raid, 2 2tb hardrives in raid



gtx 480 sli

thermaltake 1500watt power supply.

Samsung blueray burner

acer h5360

acer 23 inch monitor x 3 for 3dvs. (3d vision surrond)



Now i hope the world doesnt end anytime soon. I wanna play with my toys for a bit more.

#6
Posted 06/07/2010 09:22 AM   
[quote name='alanwest09872' post='1069453' date='Jun 7 2010, 07:22 PM']Im sorry Im not trying to be a pain to everyone just its a big decision and I want best of the best and really want to do this the right way. And since I trust you guys I really like your opinion. Just let this post die then I didnt mean to upset anyone I am sorry.[/quote]

No dont' worry mate, no one is upset.
It's all opinion based but check this thread out (http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=164029&st=40) , read coppershark's post.

"I have already owned the Acer model and think the unit is inferior on every level to the HD67. Build quality for the Acer is atrocious, the lumens are way too much and create terrible RBE for users (I had 5 or 6 people complain when demo'd), the unit won't stay in ECO mode, the interface is unintuitve and don't get me started on the joke of a remote control !

I returned it to 'Projector Shop 24' within a week of use."

I'm not trying to sway you either way, just make the educated buy is all.

What are you scared off from, I told you I had the HD66 working perfectly VGA, HDMI and glasses the correct way up and coppershark has the HD67 working with the same method, one monitor.inf file is all it takes so I'm unsure what you mean.

I read tritosine talking about ghosting on one of the posts with his Acer, I'm not trying to bash the Acer in any way but I can tell you I have absolutely zero ghosting and to me this the big number one issue that will piss a 3D user off.

The acer also has an annoying message that comes on for about 10seconds when it fires up 3D <--- minor issue but c'mon would get annoying.

@tritosine i can run 1280x768 or 1280x800 120hz over vga just fine now not every game allows 720P that I have found, bonetown for example great game if you haven't tried it has no 720P option and sometimes games don't have a quick .ini you could edit etc to get you this resolution as sometimes it's hard coded.
Haven't worked out HDMI for these resolutions yet but still plugging away.
[quote name='alanwest09872' post='1069453' date='Jun 7 2010, 07:22 PM']Im sorry Im not trying to be a pain to everyone just its a big decision and I want best of the best and really want to do this the right way. And since I trust you guys I really like your opinion. Just let this post die then I didnt mean to upset anyone I am sorry.



No dont' worry mate, no one is upset.

It's all opinion based but check this thread out (http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=164029&st=40) , read coppershark's post.



"I have already owned the Acer model and think the unit is inferior on every level to the HD67. Build quality for the Acer is atrocious, the lumens are way too much and create terrible RBE for users (I had 5 or 6 people complain when demo'd), the unit won't stay in ECO mode, the interface is unintuitve and don't get me started on the joke of a remote control !



I returned it to 'Projector Shop 24' within a week of use."



I'm not trying to sway you either way, just make the educated buy is all.



What are you scared off from, I told you I had the HD66 working perfectly VGA, HDMI and glasses the correct way up and coppershark has the HD67 working with the same method, one monitor.inf file is all it takes so I'm unsure what you mean.



I read tritosine talking about ghosting on one of the posts with his Acer, I'm not trying to bash the Acer in any way but I can tell you I have absolutely zero ghosting and to me this the big number one issue that will piss a 3D user off.



The acer also has an annoying message that comes on for about 10seconds when it fires up 3D <--- minor issue but c'mon would get annoying.



@tritosine i can run 1280x768 or 1280x800 120hz over vga just fine now not every game allows 720P that I have found, bonetown for example great game if you haven't tried it has no 720P option and sometimes games don't have a quick .ini you could edit etc to get you this resolution as sometimes it's hard coded.

Haven't worked out HDMI for these resolutions yet but still plugging away.

#7
Posted 06/07/2010 03:21 PM   
I have an Acer h5360 and am very happy with it so far (less so with my optoma screen). I would go for it over the viewsonic and depth, because depthq is very expensive (I think about £3500) and the viewsonic I dont think can do 720p in 3D.
I have an Acer h5360 and am very happy with it so far (less so with my optoma screen). I would go for it over the viewsonic and depth, because depthq is very expensive (I think about £3500) and the viewsonic I dont think can do 720p in 3D.

#8
Posted 06/07/2010 03:22 PM   
I didn't even know Optoma made projection screens themselves
I didn't even know Optoma made projection screens themselves

#9
Posted 06/07/2010 03:36 PM   
[quote name='bullripper' post='1069621' date='Jun 7 2010, 11:21 AM']No dont' worry mate, no one is upset.
It's all opinion based but check this thread out (http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=164029&st=40) , read coppershark's post.

"I have already owned the Acer model and think the unit is inferior on every level to the HD67. Build quality for the Acer is atrocious, the lumens are way too much and create terrible RBE for users (I had 5 or 6 people complain when demo'd), the unit won't stay in ECO mode, the interface is unintuitve and don't get me started on the joke of a remote control !

I returned it to 'Projector Shop 24' within a week of use."

I'm not trying to sway you either way, just make the educated buy is all.

What are you scared off from, I told you I had the HD66 working perfectly VGA, HDMI and glasses the correct way up and coppershark has the HD67 working with the same method, one monitor.inf file is all it takes so I'm unsure what you mean.

I read tritosine talking about ghosting on one of the posts with his Acer, I'm not trying to bash the Acer in any way but I can tell you I have absolutely zero ghosting and to me this the big number one issue that will piss a 3D user off.

The acer also has an annoying message that comes on for about 10seconds when it fires up 3D <--- minor issue but c'mon would get annoying.

@tritosine i can run 1280x768 or 1280x800 120hz over vga just fine now not every game allows 720P that I have found, bonetown for example great game if you haven't tried it has no 720P option and sometimes games don't have a quick .ini you could edit etc to get you this resolution as sometimes it's hard coded.
Haven't worked out HDMI for these resolutions yet but still plugging away.[/quote]
Whats the difference between the hd66 and hd67 I tried to look online but couldnt find anything. Do you need to do the same thing with the update the monitor driver for the hd 67?
I would assume the 67 would have more features then the 66. maybe even a bit britter I hope lol
[quote name='bullripper' post='1069621' date='Jun 7 2010, 11:21 AM']No dont' worry mate, no one is upset.

It's all opinion based but check this thread out (http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=164029&st=40) , read coppershark's post.



"I have already owned the Acer model and think the unit is inferior on every level to the HD67. Build quality for the Acer is atrocious, the lumens are way too much and create terrible RBE for users (I had 5 or 6 people complain when demo'd), the unit won't stay in ECO mode, the interface is unintuitve and don't get me started on the joke of a remote control !



I returned it to 'Projector Shop 24' within a week of use."



I'm not trying to sway you either way, just make the educated buy is all.



What are you scared off from, I told you I had the HD66 working perfectly VGA, HDMI and glasses the correct way up and coppershark has the HD67 working with the same method, one monitor.inf file is all it takes so I'm unsure what you mean.



I read tritosine talking about ghosting on one of the posts with his Acer, I'm not trying to bash the Acer in any way but I can tell you I have absolutely zero ghosting and to me this the big number one issue that will piss a 3D user off.



The acer also has an annoying message that comes on for about 10seconds when it fires up 3D <--- minor issue but c'mon would get annoying.



@tritosine i can run 1280x768 or 1280x800 120hz over vga just fine now not every game allows 720P that I have found, bonetown for example great game if you haven't tried it has no 720P option and sometimes games don't have a quick .ini you could edit etc to get you this resolution as sometimes it's hard coded.

Haven't worked out HDMI for these resolutions yet but still plugging away.

Whats the difference between the hd66 and hd67 I tried to look online but couldnt find anything. Do you need to do the same thing with the update the monitor driver for the hd 67?

I would assume the 67 would have more features then the 66. maybe even a bit britter I hope lol

Core I7 960 4ghz

Evga 760

12G ram

1 intel ssd os, 2 veloraptor in raid, 2 2tb hardrives in raid



gtx 480 sli

thermaltake 1500watt power supply.

Samsung blueray burner

acer h5360

acer 23 inch monitor x 3 for 3dvs. (3d vision surrond)



Now i hope the world doesnt end anytime soon. I wanna play with my toys for a bit more.

#10
Posted 06/07/2010 03:43 PM   
[quote name='bullripper' post='1069621' date='Jun 7 2010, 11:21 AM']No dont' worry mate, no one is upset.
It's all opinion based but check this thread out (http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=164029&st=40) , read coppershark's post.

"I have already owned the Acer model and think the unit is inferior on every level to the HD67. Build quality for the Acer is atrocious, the lumens are way too much and create terrible RBE for users (I had 5 or 6 people complain when demo'd), the unit won't stay in ECO mode, the interface is unintuitve and don't get me started on the joke of a remote control !

I returned it to 'Projector Shop 24' within a week of use."

I'm not trying to sway you either way, just make the educated buy is all.

What are you scared off from, I told you I had the HD66 working perfectly VGA, HDMI and glasses the correct way up and coppershark has the HD67 working with the same method, one monitor.inf file is all it takes so I'm unsure what you mean.

I read tritosine talking about ghosting on one of the posts with his Acer, I'm not trying to bash the Acer in any way but I can tell you I have absolutely zero ghosting and to me this the big number one issue that will piss a 3D user off.

The acer also has an annoying message that comes on for about 10seconds when it fires up 3D <--- minor issue but c'mon would get annoying.

@tritosine i can run 1280x768 or 1280x800 120hz over vga just fine now not every game allows 720P that I have found, bonetown for example great game if you haven't tried it has no 720P option and sometimes games don't have a quick .ini you could edit etc to get you this resolution as sometimes it's hard coded.
Haven't worked out HDMI for these resolutions yet but still plugging away.[/quote]
Whats the difference between the hd66 and hd67 I tried to look online but couldn't find anything. Do you need to do the same thing with the update the monitor driver for the hd 67?
I would assume the hd67 would have more features then the hd66. maybe even a bit brighter I hope lol

What screen do you use I have a 99 dollar white matte one. I am willing to spend more if it gives me a brighter better picture.
[quote name='bullripper' post='1069621' date='Jun 7 2010, 11:21 AM']No dont' worry mate, no one is upset.

It's all opinion based but check this thread out (http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=164029&st=40) , read coppershark's post.



"I have already owned the Acer model and think the unit is inferior on every level to the HD67. Build quality for the Acer is atrocious, the lumens are way too much and create terrible RBE for users (I had 5 or 6 people complain when demo'd), the unit won't stay in ECO mode, the interface is unintuitve and don't get me started on the joke of a remote control !



I returned it to 'Projector Shop 24' within a week of use."



I'm not trying to sway you either way, just make the educated buy is all.



What are you scared off from, I told you I had the HD66 working perfectly VGA, HDMI and glasses the correct way up and coppershark has the HD67 working with the same method, one monitor.inf file is all it takes so I'm unsure what you mean.



I read tritosine talking about ghosting on one of the posts with his Acer, I'm not trying to bash the Acer in any way but I can tell you I have absolutely zero ghosting and to me this the big number one issue that will piss a 3D user off.



The acer also has an annoying message that comes on for about 10seconds when it fires up 3D <--- minor issue but c'mon would get annoying.



@tritosine i can run 1280x768 or 1280x800 120hz over vga just fine now not every game allows 720P that I have found, bonetown for example great game if you haven't tried it has no 720P option and sometimes games don't have a quick .ini you could edit etc to get you this resolution as sometimes it's hard coded.

Haven't worked out HDMI for these resolutions yet but still plugging away.

Whats the difference between the hd66 and hd67 I tried to look online but couldn't find anything. Do you need to do the same thing with the update the monitor driver for the hd 67?

I would assume the hd67 would have more features then the hd66. maybe even a bit brighter I hope lol



What screen do you use I have a 99 dollar white matte one. I am willing to spend more if it gives me a brighter better picture.

Core I7 960 4ghz

Evga 760

12G ram

1 intel ssd os, 2 veloraptor in raid, 2 2tb hardrives in raid



gtx 480 sli

thermaltake 1500watt power supply.

Samsung blueray burner

acer h5360

acer 23 inch monitor x 3 for 3dvs. (3d vision surrond)



Now i hope the world doesnt end anytime soon. I wanna play with my toys for a bit more.

#11
Posted 06/07/2010 03:44 PM   
As far as I can tell there is no difference, maybe they are in different markets around the world with different model numbers.
I could be wrong however as I only the HD66 but I think I remember someone saying they seem exactly the same.

Yes the HD67 you have to use the same method with the monitor.inf
I see alot of guys now making there own screens or just painting the wall with good results now if you have any issues with your current screen.

Me I'm going the other route and trying to get either a 110hz or 100hz working for brightness gain, I like hacking and playing more then anything.
If I figure it out it will benefit both Acer and Optoma owners.
As far as I can tell there is no difference, maybe they are in different markets around the world with different model numbers.

I could be wrong however as I only the HD66 but I think I remember someone saying they seem exactly the same.



Yes the HD67 you have to use the same method with the monitor.inf

I see alot of guys now making there own screens or just painting the wall with good results now if you have any issues with your current screen.



Me I'm going the other route and trying to get either a 110hz or 100hz working for brightness gain, I like hacking and playing more then anything.

If I figure it out it will benefit both Acer and Optoma owners.

#12
Posted 06/07/2010 03:50 PM   
i would stay away from unsupported hardware. you are asking for problems.

depth q is the best but its allot more expensive and 1080p projectors will be available in the near future. it depends on your budget and upgrade path.....
i would stay away from unsupported hardware. you are asking for problems.



depth q is the best but its allot more expensive and 1080p projectors will be available in the near future. it depends on your budget and upgrade path.....

System:

Intel I7 920 overclocked to 4ghz

Asus Rampage Extreme II

2 Ge-force 480 in SLI

GTX 295 PhysX Card

12gb ddr3 2000mhz ram

Intel SSD in RAID 0

BR RW

1000w Sony surround sound

NVIDIA 3D Vision



3d displays tested:



Mitsubishi 65" DLP 3d HDTV (good old 1080p checkerboard since 2007!!!)

Panasonic VT25 (nice 2d but I returned it due to cross talk)

Acer H5360 720p on 130" screen (the best 3d)

23" Acer LCD monitor (horrible cross talk- sold it)

Samsung 65D8000

#13
Posted 06/07/2010 04:56 PM   
Nvidia doesn't seem to care if you are authorised or not, you get no support from them either way if you ask me.
They can't hide behind EDID anymore mwahahah, do it in the OS and I'll flash the EDID on my projector to make it think I'm "authorised" either way I don't care.
Nvidia doesn't seem to care if you are authorised or not, you get no support from them either way if you ask me.

They can't hide behind EDID anymore mwahahah, do it in the OS and I'll flash the EDID on my projector to make it think I'm "authorised" either way I don't care.

#14
Posted 06/07/2010 05:23 PM   
[quote name='bullripper' post='1069691' date='Jun 7 2010, 01:23 PM']Nvidia doesn't seem to care if you are authorised or not, you get no support from them either way if you ask me.
They can't hide behind EDID anymore mwahahah, do it in the OS and I'll flash the EDID on my projector to make it think I'm "authorised" either way I don't care.[/quote]
what is EDID?
[quote name='bullripper' post='1069691' date='Jun 7 2010, 01:23 PM']Nvidia doesn't seem to care if you are authorised or not, you get no support from them either way if you ask me.

They can't hide behind EDID anymore mwahahah, do it in the OS and I'll flash the EDID on my projector to make it think I'm "authorised" either way I don't care.

what is EDID?

Core I7 960 4ghz

Evga 760

12G ram

1 intel ssd os, 2 veloraptor in raid, 2 2tb hardrives in raid



gtx 480 sli

thermaltake 1500watt power supply.

Samsung blueray burner

acer h5360

acer 23 inch monitor x 3 for 3dvs. (3d vision surrond)



Now i hope the world doesnt end anytime soon. I wanna play with my toys for a bit more.

#15
Posted 06/07/2010 06:20 PM   
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