I've recently starting using the ULTIMATE 3D vision setup. I'm playing on a 4K passive LG 55" TV at 4K in 3D! I've owned every imaginable setup from projectors, HMDs, monitors, surround monitors, and playing 3D at 4K beats everything else, but needs lots of power. FYI, 4K passive you get 3840 x 1080 to each eye.
The level of detail, the 3D effect, etc is just truly next level. I recently did a shootout between the Asus ROG Swift and the 55" 4K LG and the LG wiped the floor with the Swift.
I can currently play newer games like the Witcher 3 and Farcry 4 in 4K 3D but I can only maintain between 24-30FPS on my Titan X. I'm getting rid of the Titan X (full credit) and I'm thinking of getting 2 980ti. I'm just worried about SLI and 3D vision. What is the current consensus with 3D vision and SLI? Scaling, stutter, usage, etc. I haven't used SLI for a while now but when I had it with my 780s it worked quite nice, but recently I've been seeing complaints about 3D vision and SLI. BTW, it will "only" cost me 300 to go from one Titan X, to two 980ti's
I've recently starting using the ULTIMATE 3D vision setup. I'm playing on a 4K passive LG 55" TV at 4K in 3D! I've owned every imaginable setup from projectors, HMDs, monitors, surround monitors, and playing 3D at 4K beats everything else, but needs lots of power. FYI, 4K passive you get 3840 x 1080 to each eye.
The level of detail, the 3D effect, etc is just truly next level. I recently did a shootout between the Asus ROG Swift and the 55" 4K LG and the LG wiped the floor with the Swift.
I can currently play newer games like the Witcher 3 and Farcry 4 in 4K 3D but I can only maintain between 24-30FPS on my Titan X. I'm getting rid of the Titan X (full credit) and I'm thinking of getting 2 980ti. I'm just worried about SLI and 3D vision. What is the current consensus with 3D vision and SLI? Scaling, stutter, usage, etc. I haven't used SLI for a while now but when I had it with my 780s it worked quite nice, but recently I've been seeing complaints about 3D vision and SLI. BTW, it will "only" cost me 300 to go from one Titan X, to two 980ti's
Did you monitor GPU memory usage while gaming at 4K in 3D?
There are a few games that will use around 4GB at 1080P and 4K is four times 1080P, so will 8GB on a GTX 980ti be enough? Just wondering.
Did you check for bottlenecks with your current CPU/Motherboard?
That's a good question, but as far as I'm aware the textures use up most of the VRAM, Anti-aliasing uses quite a bit, then you've got the framebuffer size which is totally dependent on resolution x number of frames you're prerendering (i.e. double/triple buffering etc).
From my experience, SLI is still totally worth it for 3d so given the costs I say yes.
That's a good question, but as far as I'm aware the textures use up most of the VRAM, Anti-aliasing uses quite a bit, then you've got the framebuffer size which is totally dependent on resolution x number of frames you're prerendering (i.e. double/triple buffering etc).
From my experience, SLI is still totally worth it for 3d so given the costs I say yes.
GTX 1070 SLI, I7-6700k ~ 4.4Ghz, 3x BenQ XL2420T, BenQ TK800, LG 55EG960V (3D OLED), Samsung 850 EVO SSD, Crucial M4 SSD, 3D vision kit, Xpand x104 glasses, Corsair HX1000i, Win 10 pro 64/Win 7 64https://www.3dmark.com/fs/9529310
I just checked a couple of games and usage according with MSI afterburner.
Wither 3 most settings ultra uses about 3gb at 4K 3D, and 2GB at 1440p
GTA 5 with max settings uses about 5gb at 4k 3D, even though the in game GTA usage shows on average at least 500mb more. The highest I got with GTA V was maxing out MSAA 4x which brought usage to 6.5gb.
I'm gonna do some more testing but it looks like 6gb should be plenty for 4K 3D. Also, There are a few people who are still gaming in surround on 3 and 4gb cards and I haven't heard any complaints. Surround 3D is close to the requirement of 4k 3D.
I just checked a couple of games and usage according with MSI afterburner.
Wither 3 most settings ultra uses about 3gb at 4K 3D, and 2GB at 1440p
GTA 5 with max settings uses about 5gb at 4k 3D, even though the in game GTA usage shows on average at least 500mb more. The highest I got with GTA V was maxing out MSAA 4x which brought usage to 6.5gb.
I'm gonna do some more testing but it looks like 6gb should be plenty for 4K 3D. Also, There are a few people who are still gaming in surround on 3 and 4gb cards and I haven't heard any complaints. Surround 3D is close to the requirement of 4k 3D.
Out of curiosity, I have several questions.
How's the lag, is it tolerable? Is there anything that you needed to do, to improve it?
What's the model number and do you have to use the trick posted in the other thread to get 4K to work via 3DTV Play or did Nvidia increase the resolutions. (doubtful on the last, but one can only hope)
How far are you sitting from the TV, are the scan lines very noticeable?
Also, what relationship is the sweet spot for eye level in relationship to the screen?
In other words, is the ghosting less when your eyes are level with the bottom third of the screen, center or upper portion?
How's the lag, is it tolerable? Is there anything that you needed to do, to improve it?
What's the model number and do you have to use the trick posted in the other thread to get 4K to work via 3DTV Play or did Nvidia increase the resolutions. (doubtful on the last, but one can only hope)
How far are you sitting from the TV, are the scan lines very noticeable?
Also, what relationship is the sweet spot for eye level in relationship to the screen?
In other words, is the ghosting less when your eyes are level with the bottom third of the screen, center or upper portion?
Lag is OK, but it really depends on what type of gamer you are. If you are a casual gamer it should be fine and you probably wouldn't notice it too much, but if your a counter strike pro player, etc and have to have 1ms lag then it will not work for you. The LG I believe is 55ms after you rename the ipnut to PC and turn off ALL PROCESSING. This is considered average at best but most gamers wouldn't complain about it.
I have the 55" 8500 LG. However, new passive LG, Sony, and Panasonic should release any day now.
There is no real trick to get it working. You simply install the monitor driver and you are good to go, and you don't even need the emitter or 3DTV play! Nvidia does not support anything over 720p 60hz which is a fucking joke! I'm using WAY more bandwith playing at 3840 x 1080p at 60hz via HDMI 2.0 then 1920 x 1080 obviously would, yet Nvidia the lazy cunts that they are will not update the completely outdated 3DTVplay specs. Still going to throw 1600 at them for 2 980ti's. LOL. That's what happens when you have no choice.
I sit 4.5 feet away. There are no scan lines with 4K passive, that was only an issue for 1080p passive sets.
Sweet spot unfortunately is very narrow. You want to be viewing it dead on center. Simply standing up breaks the 3D effect, but once your in the sweet spot, the ghosting is very minimal and the resolution, combined with the brightness, colour, and completely flicker free image, makes it the best for 3D viewing.
Lag is OK, but it really depends on what type of gamer you are. If you are a casual gamer it should be fine and you probably wouldn't notice it too much, but if your a counter strike pro player, etc and have to have 1ms lag then it will not work for you. The LG I believe is 55ms after you rename the ipnut to PC and turn off ALL PROCESSING. This is considered average at best but most gamers wouldn't complain about it.
I have the 55" 8500 LG. However, new passive LG, Sony, and Panasonic should release any day now.
There is no real trick to get it working. You simply install the monitor driver and you are good to go, and you don't even need the emitter or 3DTV play! Nvidia does not support anything over 720p 60hz which is a fucking joke! I'm using WAY more bandwith playing at 3840 x 1080p at 60hz via HDMI 2.0 then 1920 x 1080 obviously would, yet Nvidia the lazy cunts that they are will not update the completely outdated 3DTVplay specs. Still going to throw 1600 at them for 2 980ti's. LOL. That's what happens when you have no choice.
I sit 4.5 feet away. There are no scan lines with 4K passive, that was only an issue for 1080p passive sets.
Sweet spot unfortunately is very narrow. You want to be viewing it dead on center. Simply standing up breaks the 3D effect, but once your in the sweet spot, the ghosting is very minimal and the resolution, combined with the brightness, colour, and completely flicker free image, makes it the best for 3D viewing.
Nothing beats 3D Surround my friend... no bloody single 3D 4K screen.... I had one and I returned 3 days later as I wasn't impressed...
I for one love the bigger Field of View and the immersion it gives over a view with "horse glasses" (aka only see straight) and a bigger pixel/detail density...
But to your topic... You will probably need SLI if you want to achieve good framerates with good settings:)
Edit: Also since is a PASSIVE TV you actually don't render the full resolution either half width or height... So the total RENDERED resolution is lower than that of 3D Surround which uses ACTIVE displays... So you might get away with just one card ^_^ ) Now since we are talking about this... I would love 4K 3D Surround;)) Think about that for a second;))
Nothing beats 3D Surround my friend... no bloody single 3D 4K screen.... I had one and I returned 3 days later as I wasn't impressed...
I for one love the bigger Field of View and the immersion it gives over a view with "horse glasses" (aka only see straight) and a bigger pixel/detail density...
But to your topic... You will probably need SLI if you want to achieve good framerates with good settings:)
Edit: Also since is a PASSIVE TV you actually don't render the full resolution either half width or height... So the total RENDERED resolution is lower than that of 3D Surround which uses ACTIVE displays... So you might get away with just one card ^_^ ) Now since we are talking about this... I would love 4K 3D Surround;)) Think about that for a second;))
1x Palit RTX 2080Ti Pro Gaming OC(watercooled and overclocked to hell)
3x 3D Vision Ready Asus VG278HE monitors (5760x1080).
Intel i9 9900K (overclocked to 5.3 and watercooled ofc).
Asus Maximus XI Hero Mobo.
16 GB Team Group T-Force Dark Pro DDR4 @ 3600.
Lots of Disks:
- Raid 0 - 256GB Sandisk Extreme SSD.
- Raid 0 - WD Black - 2TB.
- SanDisk SSD PLUS 480 GB.
- Intel 760p 256GB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD.
Creative Sound Blaster Z.
Windows 10 x64 Pro.
etc
The level of detail, the 3D effect, etc is just truly next level. I recently did a shootout between the Asus ROG Swift and the 55" 4K LG and the LG wiped the floor with the Swift.
I can currently play newer games like the Witcher 3 and Farcry 4 in 4K 3D but I can only maintain between 24-30FPS on my Titan X. I'm getting rid of the Titan X (full credit) and I'm thinking of getting 2 980ti. I'm just worried about SLI and 3D vision. What is the current consensus with 3D vision and SLI? Scaling, stutter, usage, etc. I haven't used SLI for a while now but when I had it with my 780s it worked quite nice, but recently I've been seeing complaints about 3D vision and SLI. BTW, it will "only" cost me 300 to go from one Titan X, to two 980ti's
There are a few games that will use around 4GB at 1080P and 4K is four times 1080P, so will 8GB on a GTX 980ti be enough? Just wondering.
Did you check for bottlenecks with your current CPU/Motherboard?
From my experience, SLI is still totally worth it for 3d so given the costs I say yes.
GTX 1070 SLI, I7-6700k ~ 4.4Ghz, 3x BenQ XL2420T, BenQ TK800, LG 55EG960V (3D OLED), Samsung 850 EVO SSD, Crucial M4 SSD, 3D vision kit, Xpand x104 glasses, Corsair HX1000i, Win 10 pro 64/Win 7 64https://www.3dmark.com/fs/9529310
Wither 3 most settings ultra uses about 3gb at 4K 3D, and 2GB at 1440p
GTA 5 with max settings uses about 5gb at 4k 3D, even though the in game GTA usage shows on average at least 500mb more. The highest I got with GTA V was maxing out MSAA 4x which brought usage to 6.5gb.
I'm gonna do some more testing but it looks like 6gb should be plenty for 4K 3D. Also, There are a few people who are still gaming in surround on 3 and 4gb cards and I haven't heard any complaints. Surround 3D is close to the requirement of 4k 3D.
How's the lag, is it tolerable? Is there anything that you needed to do, to improve it?
What's the model number and do you have to use the trick posted in the other thread to get 4K to work via 3DTV Play or did Nvidia increase the resolutions. (doubtful on the last, but one can only hope)
How far are you sitting from the TV, are the scan lines very noticeable?
Also, what relationship is the sweet spot for eye level in relationship to the screen?
In other words, is the ghosting less when your eyes are level with the bottom third of the screen, center or upper portion?
I have the 55" 8500 LG. However, new passive LG, Sony, and Panasonic should release any day now.
There is no real trick to get it working. You simply install the monitor driver and you are good to go, and you don't even need the emitter or 3DTV play! Nvidia does not support anything over 720p 60hz which is a fucking joke! I'm using WAY more bandwith playing at 3840 x 1080p at 60hz via HDMI 2.0 then 1920 x 1080 obviously would, yet Nvidia the lazy cunts that they are will not update the completely outdated 3DTVplay specs. Still going to throw 1600 at them for 2 980ti's. LOL. That's what happens when you have no choice.
I sit 4.5 feet away. There are no scan lines with 4K passive, that was only an issue for 1080p passive sets.
Sweet spot unfortunately is very narrow. You want to be viewing it dead on center. Simply standing up breaks the 3D effect, but once your in the sweet spot, the ghosting is very minimal and the resolution, combined with the brightness, colour, and completely flicker free image, makes it the best for 3D viewing.
I for one love the bigger Field of View and the immersion it gives over a view with "horse glasses" (aka only see straight) and a bigger pixel/detail density...
But to your topic... You will probably need SLI if you want to achieve good framerates with good settings:)
Edit: Also since is a PASSIVE TV you actually don't render the full resolution either half width or height... So the total RENDERED resolution is lower than that of 3D Surround which uses ACTIVE displays... So you might get away with just one card ^_^ ) Now since we are talking about this... I would love 4K 3D Surround;)) Think about that for a second;))
1x Palit RTX 2080Ti Pro Gaming OC(watercooled and overclocked to hell)
3x 3D Vision Ready Asus VG278HE monitors (5760x1080).
Intel i9 9900K (overclocked to 5.3 and watercooled ofc).
Asus Maximus XI Hero Mobo.
16 GB Team Group T-Force Dark Pro DDR4 @ 3600.
Lots of Disks:
- Raid 0 - 256GB Sandisk Extreme SSD.
- Raid 0 - WD Black - 2TB.
- SanDisk SSD PLUS 480 GB.
- Intel 760p 256GB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD.
Creative Sound Blaster Z.
Windows 10 x64 Pro.
etc
My website with my fixes and OpenGL to 3D Vision wrapper:
http://3dsurroundgaming.com
(If you like some of the stuff that I've done and want to donate something, you can do it with PayPal at tavyhome@gmail.com)