I personally have not installed the epic launcher yet, but I know I will. They are just throwing too much money at games I want to play. Hopefully some of our shaderhackers don't mind the epic game store, I know Losti is already fixing Exodus for us (thanks Losti!!!). Out of the 3 exclusives I am interested in, Control looks like it was made to be played in 3D...
Control
Sinking City
Metro Exodus
I personally have not installed the epic launcher yet, but I know I will. They are just throwing too much money at games I want to play. Hopefully some of our shaderhackers don't mind the epic game store, I know Losti is already fixing Exodus for us (thanks Losti!!!). Out of the 3 exclusives I am interested in, Control looks like it was made to be played in 3D...
[quote="chtiblue"][quote="sebastatu"]
If anything this should give Steam a kick in the ass and hopefully it will wake them up. They have been far too dormant. They need to start innovating again, and Valve needs go back to making and releasing great games like Half-life and Portal, maybe even new IPs. they need to start being more aggressive. They don't even spend money in advertisement FFS. Steam could be so much bigger than it is today, even more popular than it currently is, but they have been in a comfort zone for far too long.[/quote]
Agreed for that point, for the rest I think you're too much on the consumer side ;)
Steam acts like big distributor corporate (like Carrefour, Wallmart etc they give shit to producers…), that's why they need competition[/quote]
Well, that is because that is all I am. I don't make money from games, I spend it on games. And last I checked that is how publishers, developers, and distributers get paid, 100% by us gamers. It doesn't matter how less Epic charges developers, If no one is buying the games. 88% 0f 0 is still 0, you know? And that's how much they get from me, 0. I have no interest in buying any game from Epic store, None at all. They can keep their exclusives. I can wait a year and buy them later and if they don't come on Steam, I'd rather pirate it then. Either way is their loss.
However, if I was in the business of, I would be 100% Pro consumer. I would give customers what they want. I would make it so that they would only want to by from me. Not because I hold the games ransom, no, but because I'd try to offer a better service, better quality, better selections, better prices, better extras.
Gabe Newel once said "Piracy is a service issue" and he is still 100% correct. I don't remember the last time I pirated a game.
It is time for Steam to step up and act. Maybe even pay developers for keeping games available in every store. Start advertising to attract more audience, so the developers sell more games. there are so many people that don't know what steam is that could be potential customers. They could Advertise on TV, during Sports games, just like every other gaming company does. They should start making great games as well, and work deals with other EA and Microsoft to offer their games on Steam as well. That's what I would do.
PS. I would also be against exclusivity if it was Valve the one doing it on third party games, btw.
sebastatu said:
If anything this should give Steam a kick in the ass and hopefully it will wake them up. They have been far too dormant. They need to start innovating again, and Valve needs go back to making and releasing great games like Half-life and Portal, maybe even new IPs. they need to start being more aggressive. They don't even spend money in advertisement FFS. Steam could be so much bigger than it is today, even more popular than it currently is, but they have been in a comfort zone for far too long.
Agreed for that point, for the rest I think you're too much on the consumer side ;)
Steam acts like big distributor corporate (like Carrefour, Wallmart etc they give shit to producers…), that's why they need competition
Well, that is because that is all I am. I don't make money from games, I spend it on games. And last I checked that is how publishers, developers, and distributers get paid, 100% by us gamers. It doesn't matter how less Epic charges developers, If no one is buying the games. 88% 0f 0 is still 0, you know? And that's how much they get from me, 0. I have no interest in buying any game from Epic store, None at all. They can keep their exclusives. I can wait a year and buy them later and if they don't come on Steam, I'd rather pirate it then. Either way is their loss.
However, if I was in the business of, I would be 100% Pro consumer. I would give customers what they want. I would make it so that they would only want to by from me. Not because I hold the games ransom, no, but because I'd try to offer a better service, better quality, better selections, better prices, better extras.
Gabe Newel once said "Piracy is a service issue" and he is still 100% correct. I don't remember the last time I pirated a game.
It is time for Steam to step up and act. Maybe even pay developers for keeping games available in every store. Start advertising to attract more audience, so the developers sell more games. there are so many people that don't know what steam is that could be potential customers. They could Advertise on TV, during Sports games, just like every other gaming company does. They should start making great games as well, and work deals with other EA and Microsoft to offer their games on Steam as well. That's what I would do.
PS. I would also be against exclusivity if it was Valve the one doing it on third party games, btw.
[quote="Shift-E"]I personally have not installed the epic launcher yet, but I know I will. [/quote]
That's probably a good thing, wait until the dust settles and Epic comes clean about stealing customer data.
https://www.techspot.com/news/79224-valve-isnt-happy-about-epic-alleged-steam-data.html
Also The Outer Worlds has become an exclusive to Epic or Windows Store.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/578650/The_Outer_Worlds/
https://www.dsogaming.com/news/detroit-become-human-will-be-using-the-vulkan-api-official-pc-system-requirements-revealed/
This game might as well had stayed as a console exclusive. Epic exclusive and Vulkan API.
What's the point of bringing it to PC if I can't play It in glorious 3D. Time for a vulkan Wrapper?
Console WARS ON THE PC FTW!!!!
(They finished with consoles, now I guess is time to bring this crap to the PC.... oh goody)
1x Palit RTX 2080Ti Pro Gaming OC(watercooled and overclocked to hell)
3x 3D Vision Ready Asus VG278HE monitors (5760x1080).
Intel i9 9900K (overclocked to 5.3 and watercooled ofc).
Asus Maximus XI Hero Mobo.
16 GB Team Group T-Force Dark Pro DDR4 @ 3600.
Lots of Disks:
- Raid 0 - 256GB Sandisk Extreme SSD.
- Raid 0 - WD Black - 2TB.
- SanDisk SSD PLUS 480 GB.
- Intel 760p 256GB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD.
Creative Sound Blaster Z.
Windows 10 x64 Pro.
etc
Control
Sinking City
Metro Exodus
Well, that is because that is all I am. I don't make money from games, I spend it on games. And last I checked that is how publishers, developers, and distributers get paid, 100% by us gamers. It doesn't matter how less Epic charges developers, If no one is buying the games. 88% 0f 0 is still 0, you know? And that's how much they get from me, 0. I have no interest in buying any game from Epic store, None at all. They can keep their exclusives. I can wait a year and buy them later and if they don't come on Steam, I'd rather pirate it then. Either way is their loss.
However, if I was in the business of, I would be 100% Pro consumer. I would give customers what they want. I would make it so that they would only want to by from me. Not because I hold the games ransom, no, but because I'd try to offer a better service, better quality, better selections, better prices, better extras.
Gabe Newel once said "Piracy is a service issue" and he is still 100% correct. I don't remember the last time I pirated a game.
It is time for Steam to step up and act. Maybe even pay developers for keeping games available in every store. Start advertising to attract more audience, so the developers sell more games. there are so many people that don't know what steam is that could be potential customers. They could Advertise on TV, during Sports games, just like every other gaming company does. They should start making great games as well, and work deals with other EA and Microsoft to offer their games on Steam as well. That's what I would do.
PS. I would also be against exclusivity if it was Valve the one doing it on third party games, btw.
That's probably a good thing, wait until the dust settles and Epic comes clean about stealing customer data.
https://www.techspot.com/news/79224-valve-isnt-happy-about-epic-alleged-steam-data.html
Also The Outer Worlds has become an exclusive to Epic or Windows Store.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/578650/The_Outer_Worlds/
Vulkan would make sense.
/sigh
Perhaps SuperDepth3D will add support for Vulkan
This game might as well had stayed as a console exclusive. Epic exclusive and Vulkan API.
What's the point of bringing it to PC if I can't play It in glorious 3D. Time for a vulkan Wrapper?
What a disappointment. I was interested in these games.
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Motherboard: Gigabyte Aorus GA-Z270X-Gaming 5
RAM: GSKILL Ripjaws Z 16GB 3866MHz CL18
GPU: MSI GeForce RTX 2080Ti Gaming X Trio
Monitor: Asus PG278QR
Speakers: Logitech Z506
Donations account: masterotakusuko@gmail.com
(They finished with consoles, now I guess is time to bring this crap to the PC.... oh goody)
1x Palit RTX 2080Ti Pro Gaming OC(watercooled and overclocked to hell)
3x 3D Vision Ready Asus VG278HE monitors (5760x1080).
Intel i9 9900K (overclocked to 5.3 and watercooled ofc).
Asus Maximus XI Hero Mobo.
16 GB Team Group T-Force Dark Pro DDR4 @ 3600.
Lots of Disks:
- Raid 0 - 256GB Sandisk Extreme SSD.
- Raid 0 - WD Black - 2TB.
- SanDisk SSD PLUS 480 GB.
- Intel 760p 256GB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD.
Creative Sound Blaster Z.
Windows 10 x64 Pro.
etc
My website with my fixes and OpenGL to 3D Vision wrapper:
http://3dsurroundgaming.com
(If you like some of the stuff that I've done and want to donate something, you can do it with PayPal at tavyhome@gmail.com)