[quote name='alanwest09872' post='1072709' date='Jun 13 2010, 10:42 AM']The h5360 when using nvidia vision I use 120hz selection.
There is another selecting called DLP 3d ready which is on the top of the acer h5360 and on the arcsoft software that I am using.
What is it used for anyways do I need a different pair of glasses to work it.[/quote]
It still works via 120Hz 720p input. The difference is that when enabled on the projector in this mode it sends out special "flashes" in the actual image for use with DLP 3D glasses. I found that it messes up black level in this mode and so reduces contrast ratio. However, it "may" be that in the future there is an adapter box to convert 1080p frame packed 3D to 120Hz 720p that will work with this projector. This would enable PS3 3D or external 3D blu-ray players for example.
You can have a mix of nVidia and DLP 3D glasses when in this mode.
[quote name='alanwest09872' post='1072709' date='Jun 13 2010, 10:42 AM']The h5360 when using nvidia vision I use 120hz selection.
There is another selecting called DLP 3d ready which is on the top of the acer h5360 and on the arcsoft software that I am using.
What is it used for anyways do I need a different pair of glasses to work it.
It still works via 120Hz 720p input. The difference is that when enabled on the projector in this mode it sends out special "flashes" in the actual image for use with DLP 3D glasses. I found that it messes up black level in this mode and so reduces contrast ratio. However, it "may" be that in the future there is an adapter box to convert 1080p frame packed 3D to 120Hz 720p that will work with this projector. This would enable PS3 3D or external 3D blu-ray players for example.
You can have a mix of nVidia and DLP 3D glasses when in this mode.
[quote name='jonstatt' post='1073213' date='Jun 14 2010, 08:02 AM']It still works via 120Hz 720p input. The difference is that when enabled on the projector in this mode it sends out special "flashes" in the actual image for use with DLP 3D glasses. I found that it messes up black level in this mode and so reduces contrast ratio. However, it "may" be that in the future there is an adapter box to convert 1080p frame packed 3D to 120Hz 720p that will work with this projector. This would enable PS3 3D or external 3D blu-ray players for example.
You can have a mix of nVidia and DLP 3D glasses when in this mode.[/quote]
Oh nice I think I just peed a little bit woot lol jk. Thats totaly awesome I hope it does.
can you recommend some nice glasses that will work with that.
[quote name='jonstatt' post='1073213' date='Jun 14 2010, 08:02 AM']It still works via 120Hz 720p input. The difference is that when enabled on the projector in this mode it sends out special "flashes" in the actual image for use with DLP 3D glasses. I found that it messes up black level in this mode and so reduces contrast ratio. However, it "may" be that in the future there is an adapter box to convert 1080p frame packed 3D to 120Hz 720p that will work with this projector. This would enable PS3 3D or external 3D blu-ray players for example.
You can have a mix of nVidia and DLP 3D glasses when in this mode.
Oh nice I think I just peed a little bit woot lol jk. Thats totaly awesome I hope it does.
can you recommend some nice glasses that will work with that.
Core I7 960 4ghz
Evga 760
12G ram
1 intel ssd os, 2 veloraptor in raid, 2 2tb hardrives in raid
gtx 480 sli
thermaltake 1500watt power supply.
Samsung blueray burner
acer h5360
acer 23 inch monitor x 3 for 3dvs. (3d vision surrond)
Now i hope the world doesnt end anytime soon. I wanna play with my toys for a bit more.
[quote name='jonstatt' post='1073213' date='Jun 14 2010, 05:02 AM']It still works via 120Hz 720p input. The difference is that when enabled on the projector in this mode it sends out special "flashes" in the actual image for use with DLP 3D glasses. I found that it messes up black level in this mode and so reduces contrast ratio. However, it "may" be that in the future there is an adapter box to convert 1080p frame packed 3D to 120Hz 720p that will work with this projector. This would enable PS3 3D or external 3D blu-ray players for example.
You can have a mix of nVidia and DLP 3D glasses when in this mode.[/quote]
so far with the Mitsubishi adapter/glasses and 3d vision are reported to not be compatible. users cannot run them both at the same time. Reported from a user on AVS forums. not tested by myself. same thing with dlp link and 3d vision. reportedly when dlp link is on the ir emitter is disabled and will not function.
dont want you guys to waist money.
anyone tested this first hand and had a different experience? im hoping the other users are wrong- i wanted to play with dlp link and my Mitsubishi dlp tv.
[quote name='jonstatt' post='1073213' date='Jun 14 2010, 05:02 AM']It still works via 120Hz 720p input. The difference is that when enabled on the projector in this mode it sends out special "flashes" in the actual image for use with DLP 3D glasses. I found that it messes up black level in this mode and so reduces contrast ratio. However, it "may" be that in the future there is an adapter box to convert 1080p frame packed 3D to 120Hz 720p that will work with this projector. This would enable PS3 3D or external 3D blu-ray players for example.
You can have a mix of nVidia and DLP 3D glasses when in this mode.
so far with the Mitsubishi adapter/glasses and 3d vision are reported to not be compatible. users cannot run them both at the same time. Reported from a user on AVS forums. not tested by myself. same thing with dlp link and 3d vision. reportedly when dlp link is on the ir emitter is disabled and will not function.
dont want you guys to waist money.
anyone tested this first hand and had a different experience? im hoping the other users are wrong- i wanted to play with dlp link and my Mitsubishi dlp tv.
System:
Intel I7 920 overclocked to 4ghz
Asus Rampage Extreme II
2 Ge-force 480 in SLI
GTX 295 PhysX Card
12gb ddr3 2000mhz ram
Intel SSD in RAID 0
BR RW
1000w Sony surround sound
NVIDIA 3D Vision
3d displays tested:
Mitsubishi 65" DLP 3d HDTV (good old 1080p checkerboard since 2007!!!)
Panasonic VT25 (nice 2d but I returned it due to cross talk)
Acer H5360 720p on 130" screen (the best 3d)
23" Acer LCD monitor (horrible cross talk- sold it)
[quote name='DanielJoy' post='1073330' date='Jun 14 2010, 05:27 PM']so far with the Mitsubishi adapter/glasses and 3d vision are reported to not be compatible. users cannot run them both at the same time. Reported from a user on AVS forums. not tested by myself. same thing with dlp link and 3d vision. reportedly when dlp link is on the ir emitter is disabled and will not function.
dont want you guys to waist money.
anyone tested this first hand and had a different experience? im hoping the other users are wrong- i wanted to play with dlp link and my Mitsubishi dlp tv.[/quote]
Do be careful not to confuse DLP 3D TV and DLP 3D projector. They are very different.
DLP 3D TV uses checkerboard input format. When the TV generates the sync flashes into the video stream, it stops providing a signal to the IR emitter.
But in the case of DLP 3D projectors, they do NOT use checkeboard format. They use 120Hz 720p sequential 3D input signal. The DLP link flashes are inserted by the projector before outputting the video signal. If the 3D image is coming from an nVidia solution, you CAN operate both together because the IR emitter is powered by the PC and continues to do so (as it is totally unaware of the projector mode). The projector additionally adds the sync flashes and so both types of glasses will work together.
The Mitsubishi adapter referred to, is ONLY for DLP 3D TVs. It is NOT for DLP 3D projectors. This is because its output is 1080p checkerboard format which is not suitable for the projectors. The adapter box for projectors will need to convert 1080p frame packed content and output 720p (scaling) 120Hz (re-package). This is more expensive to do so "may" never happen. Hopefully it will though and hopefully it will also process a 1080i side by side image as found on 3D satellite channels.
The only thing that is the same between DLP 3D TV, and DLP 3d Projector, are the glasses. They both utilise DLP link 3D glasses.
[quote name='DanielJoy' post='1073330' date='Jun 14 2010, 05:27 PM']so far with the Mitsubishi adapter/glasses and 3d vision are reported to not be compatible. users cannot run them both at the same time. Reported from a user on AVS forums. not tested by myself. same thing with dlp link and 3d vision. reportedly when dlp link is on the ir emitter is disabled and will not function.
dont want you guys to waist money.
anyone tested this first hand and had a different experience? im hoping the other users are wrong- i wanted to play with dlp link and my Mitsubishi dlp tv.
Do be careful not to confuse DLP 3D TV and DLP 3D projector. They are very different.
DLP 3D TV uses checkerboard input format. When the TV generates the sync flashes into the video stream, it stops providing a signal to the IR emitter.
But in the case of DLP 3D projectors, they do NOT use checkeboard format. They use 120Hz 720p sequential 3D input signal. The DLP link flashes are inserted by the projector before outputting the video signal. If the 3D image is coming from an nVidia solution, you CAN operate both together because the IR emitter is powered by the PC and continues to do so (as it is totally unaware of the projector mode). The projector additionally adds the sync flashes and so both types of glasses will work together.
The Mitsubishi adapter referred to, is ONLY for DLP 3D TVs. It is NOT for DLP 3D projectors. This is because its output is 1080p checkerboard format which is not suitable for the projectors. The adapter box for projectors will need to convert 1080p frame packed content and output 720p (scaling) 120Hz (re-package). This is more expensive to do so "may" never happen. Hopefully it will though and hopefully it will also process a 1080i side by side image as found on 3D satellite channels.
The only thing that is the same between DLP 3D TV, and DLP 3d Projector, are the glasses. They both utilise DLP link 3D glasses.
[quote name='jonstatt' post='1073366' date='Jun 14 2010, 10:37 AM']Do be careful not to confuse DLP 3D TV and DLP 3D projector. They are very different.
DLP 3D TV uses checkerboard input format. When the TV generates the sync flashes into the video stream, it stops providing a signal to the IR emitter.
But in the case of DLP 3D projectors, they do NOT use checkeboard format. They use 120Hz 720p sequential 3D input signal. The DLP link flashes are inserted by the projector before outputting the video signal. If the 3D image is coming from an nVidia solution, you CAN operate both together because the IR emitter is powered by the PC and continues to do so (as it is totally unaware of the projector mode). The projector additionally adds the sync flashes and so both types of glasses will work together.
The Mitsubishi adapter referred to, is ONLY for DLP 3D TVs. It is NOT for DLP 3D projectors. This is because its output is 1080p checkerboard format which is not suitable for the projectors. The adapter box for projectors will need to convert 1080p frame packed content and output 720p (scaling) 120Hz (re-package). This is more expensive to do so "may" never happen. Hopefully it will though and hopefully it will also process a 1080i side by side image as found on 3D satellite channels.
The only thing that is the same between DLP 3D TV, and DLP 3d Projector, are the glasses. They both utilise DLP link 3D glasses.[/quote]
thanks for clearing that up.
so have you tried both glasses? or are you speculating? i would love to here impressions about dlp link glasses vs nvidia. i see mixed reviews.
also can anyone with first hand knowledge clear up the messed up dark levels comment. is this only in dlp link with checkerboard 720p or dlp link in 720p 120hrz? or does it happen in both modes? seems like a deal killer for dlp link if its only in this mode
so the ir connector is only hooked up to the pc? it does not attach to the projector?
im trying to keep informed about projector so i know what im getting into when a 1080p projector comes out.
[quote name='jonstatt' post='1073366' date='Jun 14 2010, 10:37 AM']Do be careful not to confuse DLP 3D TV and DLP 3D projector. They are very different.
DLP 3D TV uses checkerboard input format. When the TV generates the sync flashes into the video stream, it stops providing a signal to the IR emitter.
But in the case of DLP 3D projectors, they do NOT use checkeboard format. They use 120Hz 720p sequential 3D input signal. The DLP link flashes are inserted by the projector before outputting the video signal. If the 3D image is coming from an nVidia solution, you CAN operate both together because the IR emitter is powered by the PC and continues to do so (as it is totally unaware of the projector mode). The projector additionally adds the sync flashes and so both types of glasses will work together.
The Mitsubishi adapter referred to, is ONLY for DLP 3D TVs. It is NOT for DLP 3D projectors. This is because its output is 1080p checkerboard format which is not suitable for the projectors. The adapter box for projectors will need to convert 1080p frame packed content and output 720p (scaling) 120Hz (re-package). This is more expensive to do so "may" never happen. Hopefully it will though and hopefully it will also process a 1080i side by side image as found on 3D satellite channels.
The only thing that is the same between DLP 3D TV, and DLP 3d Projector, are the glasses. They both utilise DLP link 3D glasses.
thanks for clearing that up.
so have you tried both glasses? or are you speculating? i would love to here impressions about dlp link glasses vs nvidia. i see mixed reviews.
also can anyone with first hand knowledge clear up the messed up dark levels comment. is this only in dlp link with checkerboard 720p or dlp link in 720p 120hrz? or does it happen in both modes? seems like a deal killer for dlp link if its only in this mode
so the ir connector is only hooked up to the pc? it does not attach to the projector?
im trying to keep informed about projector so i know what im getting into when a 1080p projector comes out.
System:
Intel I7 920 overclocked to 4ghz
Asus Rampage Extreme II
2 Ge-force 480 in SLI
GTX 295 PhysX Card
12gb ddr3 2000mhz ram
Intel SSD in RAID 0
BR RW
1000w Sony surround sound
NVIDIA 3D Vision
3d displays tested:
Mitsubishi 65" DLP 3d HDTV (good old 1080p checkerboard since 2007!!!)
Panasonic VT25 (nice 2d but I returned it due to cross talk)
Acer H5360 720p on 130" screen (the best 3d)
23" Acer LCD monitor (horrible cross talk- sold it)
[quote name='DanielJoy' post='1073845' date='Jun 15 2010, 04:44 PM']thanks for clearing that up.
so have you tried both glasses? or are you speculating? i would love to here impressions about dlp link glasses vs nvidia. i see mixed reviews.
also can anyone with first hand knowledge clear up the messed up dark levels comment. is this only in dlp link with checkerboard 720p or dlp link in 720p 120hrz? or does it happen in both modes? seems like a deal killer for dlp link if its only in this mode
so the ir connector is only hooked up to the pc? it does not attach to the projector?
im trying to keep informed about projector so i know what im getting into when a 1080p projector comes out.[/quote]
Yes I have 2 pairs of Optoma DLP Link glasses. In most aspects they are inferior to nVidia glasses. They don't fold up. They use button cell batteries that require replacement rather than recharge. And they are a bit heavier.
In two aspects they are better. The colour of the LCD window itself is less tinted and the overall light loss is slightly less! The DLP Link glasses seem to have a greyish tinge to them, whereas the nVidia ones are yellow.
The second better aspect is that you won't get "flicker" due to the odd loss of sync with the emitter as they are controlled through inserted frames in the image itself.
On the Acer H5360, the two settings for nVidia 3D and DLP 3D have different colour balances. I am wondering if this means the "colour balance" of the LCD lenses has been standardised for DLP Link glasses.
And yes, I have tested, and both will operate simulaneously by having the emitter for nVidia from the PC running and the projector in DLP 3D mode. However, as I said before, DLP 3D mode on the projector does compromise black level and contrast ratio slightly. And as the colour of the lenses is different you cannot have a perfect colour balance for both lenses at the same time.
It is worth mentioning that IF an adapter box comes out for the DLP ready projectors, I expect you will have to use DLP Link glasses as it is unlikely they will have an "emitter output" to control the nVidia emitter.
[quote name='DanielJoy' post='1073845' date='Jun 15 2010, 04:44 PM']thanks for clearing that up.
so have you tried both glasses? or are you speculating? i would love to here impressions about dlp link glasses vs nvidia. i see mixed reviews.
also can anyone with first hand knowledge clear up the messed up dark levels comment. is this only in dlp link with checkerboard 720p or dlp link in 720p 120hrz? or does it happen in both modes? seems like a deal killer for dlp link if its only in this mode
so the ir connector is only hooked up to the pc? it does not attach to the projector?
im trying to keep informed about projector so i know what im getting into when a 1080p projector comes out.
Yes I have 2 pairs of Optoma DLP Link glasses. In most aspects they are inferior to nVidia glasses. They don't fold up. They use button cell batteries that require replacement rather than recharge. And they are a bit heavier.
In two aspects they are better. The colour of the LCD window itself is less tinted and the overall light loss is slightly less! The DLP Link glasses seem to have a greyish tinge to them, whereas the nVidia ones are yellow.
The second better aspect is that you won't get "flicker" due to the odd loss of sync with the emitter as they are controlled through inserted frames in the image itself.
On the Acer H5360, the two settings for nVidia 3D and DLP 3D have different colour balances. I am wondering if this means the "colour balance" of the LCD lenses has been standardised for DLP Link glasses.
And yes, I have tested, and both will operate simulaneously by having the emitter for nVidia from the PC running and the projector in DLP 3D mode. However, as I said before, DLP 3D mode on the projector does compromise black level and contrast ratio slightly. And as the colour of the lenses is different you cannot have a perfect colour balance for both lenses at the same time.
It is worth mentioning that IF an adapter box comes out for the DLP ready projectors, I expect you will have to use DLP Link glasses as it is unlikely they will have an "emitter output" to control the nVidia emitter.
There is another selecting called DLP 3d ready which is on the top of the acer h5360 and on the arcsoft software that I am using.
What is it used for anyways do I need a different pair of glasses to work it.
There is another selecting called DLP 3d ready which is on the top of the acer h5360 and on the arcsoft software that I am using.
What is it used for anyways do I need a different pair of glasses to work it.
Core I7 960 4ghz
Evga 760
12G ram
1 intel ssd os, 2 veloraptor in raid, 2 2tb hardrives in raid
gtx 480 sli
thermaltake 1500watt power supply.
Samsung blueray burner
acer h5360
acer 23 inch monitor x 3 for 3dvs. (3d vision surrond)
Now i hope the world doesnt end anytime soon. I wanna play with my toys for a bit more.
There is another selecting called DLP 3d ready which is on the top of the acer h5360 and on the arcsoft software that I am using.
What is it used for anyways do I need a different pair of glasses to work it.[/quote]
It still works via 120Hz 720p input. The difference is that when enabled on the projector in this mode it sends out special "flashes" in the actual image for use with DLP 3D glasses. I found that it messes up black level in this mode and so reduces contrast ratio. However, it "may" be that in the future there is an adapter box to convert 1080p frame packed 3D to 120Hz 720p that will work with this projector. This would enable PS3 3D or external 3D blu-ray players for example.
You can have a mix of nVidia and DLP 3D glasses when in this mode.
There is another selecting called DLP 3d ready which is on the top of the acer h5360 and on the arcsoft software that I am using.
What is it used for anyways do I need a different pair of glasses to work it.
It still works via 120Hz 720p input. The difference is that when enabled on the projector in this mode it sends out special "flashes" in the actual image for use with DLP 3D glasses. I found that it messes up black level in this mode and so reduces contrast ratio. However, it "may" be that in the future there is an adapter box to convert 1080p frame packed 3D to 120Hz 720p that will work with this projector. This would enable PS3 3D or external 3D blu-ray players for example.
You can have a mix of nVidia and DLP 3D glasses when in this mode.
You can have a mix of nVidia and DLP 3D glasses when in this mode.[/quote]
Oh nice I think I just peed a little bit woot lol jk. Thats totaly awesome I hope it does.
can you recommend some nice glasses that will work with that.
You can have a mix of nVidia and DLP 3D glasses when in this mode.
Oh nice I think I just peed a little bit woot lol jk. Thats totaly awesome I hope it does.
can you recommend some nice glasses that will work with that.
Core I7 960 4ghz
Evga 760
12G ram
1 intel ssd os, 2 veloraptor in raid, 2 2tb hardrives in raid
gtx 480 sli
thermaltake 1500watt power supply.
Samsung blueray burner
acer h5360
acer 23 inch monitor x 3 for 3dvs. (3d vision surrond)
Now i hope the world doesnt end anytime soon. I wanna play with my toys for a bit more.
You can have a mix of nVidia and DLP 3D glasses when in this mode.[/quote]
so far with the Mitsubishi adapter/glasses and 3d vision are reported to not be compatible. users cannot run them both at the same time. Reported from a user on AVS forums. not tested by myself. same thing with dlp link and 3d vision. reportedly when dlp link is on the ir emitter is disabled and will not function.
dont want you guys to waist money.
anyone tested this first hand and had a different experience? im hoping the other users are wrong- i wanted to play with dlp link and my Mitsubishi dlp tv.
You can have a mix of nVidia and DLP 3D glasses when in this mode.
so far with the Mitsubishi adapter/glasses and 3d vision are reported to not be compatible. users cannot run them both at the same time. Reported from a user on AVS forums. not tested by myself. same thing with dlp link and 3d vision. reportedly when dlp link is on the ir emitter is disabled and will not function.
dont want you guys to waist money.
anyone tested this first hand and had a different experience? im hoping the other users are wrong- i wanted to play with dlp link and my Mitsubishi dlp tv.
System:
Intel I7 920 overclocked to 4ghz
Asus Rampage Extreme II
2 Ge-force 480 in SLI
GTX 295 PhysX Card
12gb ddr3 2000mhz ram
Intel SSD in RAID 0
BR RW
1000w Sony surround sound
NVIDIA 3D Vision
3d displays tested:
Mitsubishi 65" DLP 3d HDTV (good old 1080p checkerboard since 2007!!!)
Panasonic VT25 (nice 2d but I returned it due to cross talk)
Acer H5360 720p on 130" screen (the best 3d)
23" Acer LCD monitor (horrible cross talk- sold it)
Samsung 65D8000
dont want you guys to waist money.
anyone tested this first hand and had a different experience? im hoping the other users are wrong- i wanted to play with dlp link and my Mitsubishi dlp tv.[/quote]
Do be careful not to confuse DLP 3D TV and DLP 3D projector. They are very different.
DLP 3D TV uses checkerboard input format. When the TV generates the sync flashes into the video stream, it stops providing a signal to the IR emitter.
But in the case of DLP 3D projectors, they do NOT use checkeboard format. They use 120Hz 720p sequential 3D input signal. The DLP link flashes are inserted by the projector before outputting the video signal. If the 3D image is coming from an nVidia solution, you CAN operate both together because the IR emitter is powered by the PC and continues to do so (as it is totally unaware of the projector mode). The projector additionally adds the sync flashes and so both types of glasses will work together.
The Mitsubishi adapter referred to, is ONLY for DLP 3D TVs. It is NOT for DLP 3D projectors. This is because its output is 1080p checkerboard format which is not suitable for the projectors. The adapter box for projectors will need to convert 1080p frame packed content and output 720p (scaling) 120Hz (re-package). This is more expensive to do so "may" never happen. Hopefully it will though and hopefully it will also process a 1080i side by side image as found on 3D satellite channels.
The only thing that is the same between DLP 3D TV, and DLP 3d Projector, are the glasses. They both utilise DLP link 3D glasses.
dont want you guys to waist money.
anyone tested this first hand and had a different experience? im hoping the other users are wrong- i wanted to play with dlp link and my Mitsubishi dlp tv.
Do be careful not to confuse DLP 3D TV and DLP 3D projector. They are very different.
DLP 3D TV uses checkerboard input format. When the TV generates the sync flashes into the video stream, it stops providing a signal to the IR emitter.
But in the case of DLP 3D projectors, they do NOT use checkeboard format. They use 120Hz 720p sequential 3D input signal. The DLP link flashes are inserted by the projector before outputting the video signal. If the 3D image is coming from an nVidia solution, you CAN operate both together because the IR emitter is powered by the PC and continues to do so (as it is totally unaware of the projector mode). The projector additionally adds the sync flashes and so both types of glasses will work together.
The Mitsubishi adapter referred to, is ONLY for DLP 3D TVs. It is NOT for DLP 3D projectors. This is because its output is 1080p checkerboard format which is not suitable for the projectors. The adapter box for projectors will need to convert 1080p frame packed content and output 720p (scaling) 120Hz (re-package). This is more expensive to do so "may" never happen. Hopefully it will though and hopefully it will also process a 1080i side by side image as found on 3D satellite channels.
The only thing that is the same between DLP 3D TV, and DLP 3d Projector, are the glasses. They both utilise DLP link 3D glasses.
DLP 3D TV uses checkerboard input format. When the TV generates the sync flashes into the video stream, it stops providing a signal to the IR emitter.
But in the case of DLP 3D projectors, they do NOT use checkeboard format. They use 120Hz 720p sequential 3D input signal. The DLP link flashes are inserted by the projector before outputting the video signal. If the 3D image is coming from an nVidia solution, you CAN operate both together because the IR emitter is powered by the PC and continues to do so (as it is totally unaware of the projector mode). The projector additionally adds the sync flashes and so both types of glasses will work together.
The Mitsubishi adapter referred to, is ONLY for DLP 3D TVs. It is NOT for DLP 3D projectors. This is because its output is 1080p checkerboard format which is not suitable for the projectors. The adapter box for projectors will need to convert 1080p frame packed content and output 720p (scaling) 120Hz (re-package). This is more expensive to do so "may" never happen. Hopefully it will though and hopefully it will also process a 1080i side by side image as found on 3D satellite channels.
The only thing that is the same between DLP 3D TV, and DLP 3d Projector, are the glasses. They both utilise DLP link 3D glasses.[/quote]
thanks for clearing that up.
so have you tried both glasses? or are you speculating? i would love to here impressions about dlp link glasses vs nvidia. i see mixed reviews.
also can anyone with first hand knowledge clear up the messed up dark levels comment. is this only in dlp link with checkerboard 720p or dlp link in 720p 120hrz? or does it happen in both modes? seems like a deal killer for dlp link if its only in this mode
so the ir connector is only hooked up to the pc? it does not attach to the projector?
im trying to keep informed about projector so i know what im getting into when a 1080p projector comes out.
DLP 3D TV uses checkerboard input format. When the TV generates the sync flashes into the video stream, it stops providing a signal to the IR emitter.
But in the case of DLP 3D projectors, they do NOT use checkeboard format. They use 120Hz 720p sequential 3D input signal. The DLP link flashes are inserted by the projector before outputting the video signal. If the 3D image is coming from an nVidia solution, you CAN operate both together because the IR emitter is powered by the PC and continues to do so (as it is totally unaware of the projector mode). The projector additionally adds the sync flashes and so both types of glasses will work together.
The Mitsubishi adapter referred to, is ONLY for DLP 3D TVs. It is NOT for DLP 3D projectors. This is because its output is 1080p checkerboard format which is not suitable for the projectors. The adapter box for projectors will need to convert 1080p frame packed content and output 720p (scaling) 120Hz (re-package). This is more expensive to do so "may" never happen. Hopefully it will though and hopefully it will also process a 1080i side by side image as found on 3D satellite channels.
The only thing that is the same between DLP 3D TV, and DLP 3d Projector, are the glasses. They both utilise DLP link 3D glasses.
thanks for clearing that up.
so have you tried both glasses? or are you speculating? i would love to here impressions about dlp link glasses vs nvidia. i see mixed reviews.
also can anyone with first hand knowledge clear up the messed up dark levels comment. is this only in dlp link with checkerboard 720p or dlp link in 720p 120hrz? or does it happen in both modes? seems like a deal killer for dlp link if its only in this mode
so the ir connector is only hooked up to the pc? it does not attach to the projector?
im trying to keep informed about projector so i know what im getting into when a 1080p projector comes out.
System:
Intel I7 920 overclocked to 4ghz
Asus Rampage Extreme II
2 Ge-force 480 in SLI
GTX 295 PhysX Card
12gb ddr3 2000mhz ram
Intel SSD in RAID 0
BR RW
1000w Sony surround sound
NVIDIA 3D Vision
3d displays tested:
Mitsubishi 65" DLP 3d HDTV (good old 1080p checkerboard since 2007!!!)
Panasonic VT25 (nice 2d but I returned it due to cross talk)
Acer H5360 720p on 130" screen (the best 3d)
23" Acer LCD monitor (horrible cross talk- sold it)
Samsung 65D8000
so have you tried both glasses? or are you speculating? i would love to here impressions about dlp link glasses vs nvidia. i see mixed reviews.
also can anyone with first hand knowledge clear up the messed up dark levels comment. is this only in dlp link with checkerboard 720p or dlp link in 720p 120hrz? or does it happen in both modes? seems like a deal killer for dlp link if its only in this mode
so the ir connector is only hooked up to the pc? it does not attach to the projector?
im trying to keep informed about projector so i know what im getting into when a 1080p projector comes out.[/quote]
Yes I have 2 pairs of Optoma DLP Link glasses. In most aspects they are inferior to nVidia glasses. They don't fold up. They use button cell batteries that require replacement rather than recharge. And they are a bit heavier.
In two aspects they are better. The colour of the LCD window itself is less tinted and the overall light loss is slightly less! The DLP Link glasses seem to have a greyish tinge to them, whereas the nVidia ones are yellow.
The second better aspect is that you won't get "flicker" due to the odd loss of sync with the emitter as they are controlled through inserted frames in the image itself.
On the Acer H5360, the two settings for nVidia 3D and DLP 3D have different colour balances. I am wondering if this means the "colour balance" of the LCD lenses has been standardised for DLP Link glasses.
And yes, I have tested, and both will operate simulaneously by having the emitter for nVidia from the PC running and the projector in DLP 3D mode. However, as I said before, DLP 3D mode on the projector does compromise black level and contrast ratio slightly. And as the colour of the lenses is different you cannot have a perfect colour balance for both lenses at the same time.
It is worth mentioning that IF an adapter box comes out for the DLP ready projectors, I expect you will have to use DLP Link glasses as it is unlikely they will have an "emitter output" to control the nVidia emitter.
so have you tried both glasses? or are you speculating? i would love to here impressions about dlp link glasses vs nvidia. i see mixed reviews.
also can anyone with first hand knowledge clear up the messed up dark levels comment. is this only in dlp link with checkerboard 720p or dlp link in 720p 120hrz? or does it happen in both modes? seems like a deal killer for dlp link if its only in this mode
so the ir connector is only hooked up to the pc? it does not attach to the projector?
im trying to keep informed about projector so i know what im getting into when a 1080p projector comes out.
Yes I have 2 pairs of Optoma DLP Link glasses. In most aspects they are inferior to nVidia glasses. They don't fold up. They use button cell batteries that require replacement rather than recharge. And they are a bit heavier.
In two aspects they are better. The colour of the LCD window itself is less tinted and the overall light loss is slightly less! The DLP Link glasses seem to have a greyish tinge to them, whereas the nVidia ones are yellow.
The second better aspect is that you won't get "flicker" due to the odd loss of sync with the emitter as they are controlled through inserted frames in the image itself.
On the Acer H5360, the two settings for nVidia 3D and DLP 3D have different colour balances. I am wondering if this means the "colour balance" of the LCD lenses has been standardised for DLP Link glasses.
And yes, I have tested, and both will operate simulaneously by having the emitter for nVidia from the PC running and the projector in DLP 3D mode. However, as I said before, DLP 3D mode on the projector does compromise black level and contrast ratio slightly. And as the colour of the lenses is different you cannot have a perfect colour balance for both lenses at the same time.
It is worth mentioning that IF an adapter box comes out for the DLP ready projectors, I expect you will have to use DLP Link glasses as it is unlikely they will have an "emitter output" to control the nVidia emitter.