Requirements for a TV This is a support request for NVIDIA.
Hi,

i don't want to buy a expensive TV without knowing that the TV supports 3D Vision.

So i just want to clarify the TV requirements for 3D Vision.

* real 120 hz input
* HDMI 1.4 or a connector for the 3D vision transmitter

Is that right?
Here a sample TV

[url="http://www.cyberport.de/tv-audio/lcd-fernseher/7910-480/samsung-le-40c750-3d-lcd-fernseher.html"]http://www.cyberport.de/tv-audio/lcd-ferns...-fernseher.html[/url]

Hope is is not a double post. :unsure:
Hi,



i don't want to buy a expensive TV without knowing that the TV supports 3D Vision.



So i just want to clarify the TV requirements for 3D Vision.



* real 120 hz input

* HDMI 1.4 or a connector for the 3D vision transmitter



Is that right?

Here a sample TV



http://www.cyberport.de/tv-audio/lcd-ferns...-fernseher.html



Hope is is not a double post. :unsure:

#1
Posted 03/26/2010 03:40 PM   
Hi
3D vision is often considered as an entire package containing software, glasses and screen. So the only good answer is "check the 3D vision hardware requirements page it's all there"
But it doesn't answer the actual question you're asking : the answers are different depending if you talk about the 3D vision software or the 3D vision glasses.

The software part :
3D vision software can technically support absolutely every single 3D screen on earth (it used to), but Nvidia changed it's support policy two years ago.
At the moment nvidia supports only the hardware that can use the 3D vision glasses, or devices for which Nvidia and the device manufacturer have concluded a contract (only Zalman).
In the short term future Nvidia will also add software support for hdmi1.4 enabled TVs, it's called "Nvidia 3DTV play" but it won't be free : you'll have to pay for it (40$ software alone or free if you use the nvidia glasses with this TV)

The glasses part :
The Nvidia 3D vision glasses can work under different conditions :
#1 the Display has true 1:1 input=output refresh frequencies at a frequency of 100Hz minimum (120Hz is not a requirement)- AND - the delay between input and output must be constant
Sync is performed by the graphics card through the USB connector
-> at the moment : these displays are the well known 120Hz desktop monitors + a couple of DLP projectors and of course the good old CRT monitors. All these displays are branded as nvidia Geforce 3D vision ready. (except the CRT monitors)
-> No TV currently uses this method, none of the new 3DTVs will use it, and we expect absolutely no TV to actually do it in the short term future.

#2 the Display can recognize a standard stereo image format (the "DLP checkerboard pattern" or one of the hdmi 1.4 formats) - AND - the display is equipped with a VESA 3D sync port
Sync is performed by the display itself through a VESA 3D sync connector at the rear of the display which must be connected to the emitter (that's the optional VESA cable, incuded in the 3D vision package in the USA but not included in the European package). Refresh rate can be performed at whatever frequency the display wants (currently all use 120Hz)
-> at the moment : these displays are all rear-projection DLP televisions and are already supported. The future 3DTV play mode for hdmi 1.4 3DTVs will also use this technique, however the inclusion of the hdmi 1.4 3D feature does not guarantee the presence of this very important 3D sync plug. Many 3DTV manufacturers are locking their TVs to only use their own brands of 3D glasses. We do not know how the nvidia 3D vision glasses could possibly work with these TVs if the manufacturer decides to completely lock the TV. So for, now you should consider the glasses do not work until we get more detail on the nvidia 3DTV play feature.
Hi

3D vision is often considered as an entire package containing software, glasses and screen. So the only good answer is "check the 3D vision hardware requirements page it's all there"

But it doesn't answer the actual question you're asking : the answers are different depending if you talk about the 3D vision software or the 3D vision glasses.



The software part :

3D vision software can technically support absolutely every single 3D screen on earth (it used to), but Nvidia changed it's support policy two years ago.

At the moment nvidia supports only the hardware that can use the 3D vision glasses, or devices for which Nvidia and the device manufacturer have concluded a contract (only Zalman).

In the short term future Nvidia will also add software support for hdmi1.4 enabled TVs, it's called "Nvidia 3DTV play" but it won't be free : you'll have to pay for it (40$ software alone or free if you use the nvidia glasses with this TV)



The glasses part :

The Nvidia 3D vision glasses can work under different conditions :

#1 the Display has true 1:1 input=output refresh frequencies at a frequency of 100Hz minimum (120Hz is not a requirement)- AND - the delay between input and output must be constant

Sync is performed by the graphics card through the USB connector

-> at the moment : these displays are the well known 120Hz desktop monitors + a couple of DLP projectors and of course the good old CRT monitors. All these displays are branded as nvidia Geforce 3D vision ready. (except the CRT monitors)

-> No TV currently uses this method, none of the new 3DTVs will use it, and we expect absolutely no TV to actually do it in the short term future.



#2 the Display can recognize a standard stereo image format (the "DLP checkerboard pattern" or one of the hdmi 1.4 formats) - AND - the display is equipped with a VESA 3D sync port

Sync is performed by the display itself through a VESA 3D sync connector at the rear of the display which must be connected to the emitter (that's the optional VESA cable, incuded in the 3D vision package in the USA but not included in the European package). Refresh rate can be performed at whatever frequency the display wants (currently all use 120Hz)

-> at the moment : these displays are all rear-projection DLP televisions and are already supported. The future 3DTV play mode for hdmi 1.4 3DTVs will also use this technique, however the inclusion of the hdmi 1.4 3D feature does not guarantee the presence of this very important 3D sync plug. Many 3DTV manufacturers are locking their TVs to only use their own brands of 3D glasses. We do not know how the nvidia 3D vision glasses could possibly work with these TVs if the manufacturer decides to completely lock the TV. So for, now you should consider the glasses do not work until we get more detail on the nvidia 3DTV play feature.

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#2
Posted 03/26/2010 06:37 PM   
Thanks alot, very nice answer :).

So i will wait, maybe at the end of 2010 i can buy a good 3D ready gaming TV.

g Tobi

[quote name='BlackSharkfr' post='1027593' date='Mar 26 2010, 07:37 PM']Hi
3D vision is often considered as an entire package containing software, glasses and screen. So the only good answer is "check the 3D vision hardware requirements page it's all there"
But it doesn't answer the actual question you're asking : the answers are different depending if you talk about the 3D vision software or the 3D vision glasses.

The software part :
3D vision software can technically support absolutely every single 3D screen on earth (it used to), but Nvidia changed it's support policy two years ago.
At the moment nvidia supports only the hardware that can use the 3D vision glasses, or devices for which Nvidia and the device manufacturer have concluded a contract (only Zalman).
In the short term future Nvidia will also add software support for hdmi1.4 enabled TVs, it's called "Nvidia 3DTV play" but it won't be free : you'll have to pay for it (40$ software alone or free if you use the nvidia glasses with this TV)

The glasses part :
The Nvidia 3D vision glasses can work under different conditions :
#1 the Display has true 1:1 input=output refresh frequencies at a frequency of 100Hz minimum (120Hz is not a requirement)- AND - the delay between input and output must be constant
Sync is performed by the graphics card through the USB connector
-> at the moment : these displays are the well known 120Hz desktop monitors + a couple of DLP projectors and of course the good old CRT monitors. All these displays are branded as nvidia Geforce 3D vision ready. (except the CRT monitors)
-> No TV currently uses this method, none of the new 3DTVs will use it, and we expect absolutely no TV to actually do it in the short term future.

#2 the Display can recognize a standard stereo image format (the "DLP checkerboard pattern" or one of the hdmi 1.4 formats) - AND - the display is equipped with a VESA 3D sync port
Sync is performed by the display itself through a VESA 3D sync connector at the rear of the display which must be connected to the emitter (that's the optional VESA cable, incuded in the 3D vision package in the USA but not included in the European package). Refresh rate can be performed at whatever frequency the display wants (currently all use 120Hz)
-> at the moment : these displays are all rear-projection DLP televisions and are already supported. The future 3DTV play mode for hdmi 1.4 3DTVs will also use this technique, however the inclusion of the hdmi 1.4 3D feature does not guarantee the presence of this very important 3D sync plug. Many 3DTV manufacturers are locking their TVs to only use their own brands of 3D glasses. We do not know how the nvidia 3D vision glasses could possibly work with these TVs if the manufacturer decides to completely lock the TV. So for, now you should consider the glasses do not work until we get more detail on the nvidia 3DTV play feature.[/quote]
Thanks alot, very nice answer :).



So i will wait, maybe at the end of 2010 i can buy a good 3D ready gaming TV.



g Tobi



[quote name='BlackSharkfr' post='1027593' date='Mar 26 2010, 07:37 PM']Hi

3D vision is often considered as an entire package containing software, glasses and screen. So the only good answer is "check the 3D vision hardware requirements page it's all there"

But it doesn't answer the actual question you're asking : the answers are different depending if you talk about the 3D vision software or the 3D vision glasses.



The software part :

3D vision software can technically support absolutely every single 3D screen on earth (it used to), but Nvidia changed it's support policy two years ago.

At the moment nvidia supports only the hardware that can use the 3D vision glasses, or devices for which Nvidia and the device manufacturer have concluded a contract (only Zalman).

In the short term future Nvidia will also add software support for hdmi1.4 enabled TVs, it's called "Nvidia 3DTV play" but it won't be free : you'll have to pay for it (40$ software alone or free if you use the nvidia glasses with this TV)



The glasses part :

The Nvidia 3D vision glasses can work under different conditions :

#1 the Display has true 1:1 input=output refresh frequencies at a frequency of 100Hz minimum (120Hz is not a requirement)- AND - the delay between input and output must be constant

Sync is performed by the graphics card through the USB connector

-> at the moment : these displays are the well known 120Hz desktop monitors + a couple of DLP projectors and of course the good old CRT monitors. All these displays are branded as nvidia Geforce 3D vision ready. (except the CRT monitors)

-> No TV currently uses this method, none of the new 3DTVs will use it, and we expect absolutely no TV to actually do it in the short term future.



#2 the Display can recognize a standard stereo image format (the "DLP checkerboard pattern" or one of the hdmi 1.4 formats) - AND - the display is equipped with a VESA 3D sync port

Sync is performed by the display itself through a VESA 3D sync connector at the rear of the display which must be connected to the emitter (that's the optional VESA cable, incuded in the 3D vision package in the USA but not included in the European package). Refresh rate can be performed at whatever frequency the display wants (currently all use 120Hz)

-> at the moment : these displays are all rear-projection DLP televisions and are already supported. The future 3DTV play mode for hdmi 1.4 3DTVs will also use this technique, however the inclusion of the hdmi 1.4 3D feature does not guarantee the presence of this very important 3D sync plug. Many 3DTV manufacturers are locking their TVs to only use their own brands of 3D glasses. We do not know how the nvidia 3D vision glasses could possibly work with these TVs if the manufacturer decides to completely lock the TV. So for, now you should consider the glasses do not work until we get more detail on the nvidia 3DTV play feature.

#3
Posted 03/26/2010 09:38 PM   
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