I just bought a Asus VG248QE monitor and while reading the manual, I read a line that says in order to use the 3D mode, you need to use DVI and set the resolution at 1920 x 1080.
After browsing the web about this matter, I could not find an answer for my problem.
I tried asking in another site but nobody gave me an answer so I'll ask here as well.
The thing is I want to use 3D at resolution 1024 x 768.
Is it possible to achieve this with this monitor via DVI and/or HDMI cable?
I didn't buy the 3D glasses yet and if the only way to use 3D is via DVI at 1920 x 1080 like the manual suggests, then I'm not interested in the monitor and will sell it.
If someone could confirm this, I'd appreciate it.
I just bought a Asus VG248QE monitor and while reading the manual, I read a line that says in order to use the 3D mode, you need to use DVI and set the resolution at 1920 x 1080.
After browsing the web about this matter, I could not find an answer for my problem.
I tried asking in another site but nobody gave me an answer so I'll ask here as well.
The thing is I want to use 3D at resolution 1024 x 768.
Is it possible to achieve this with this monitor via DVI and/or HDMI cable?
I didn't buy the 3D glasses yet and if the only way to use 3D is via DVI at 1920 x 1080 like the manual suggests, then I'm not interested in the monitor and will sell it.
It will work fine, but the bigger question is why that res?
The thing is, various calibrations are made based around the native res of a display to maximize visual quality, so it's not recommended (as far as setting the res LOWER than the native res. Going HIGHER than the native res is always a benefit.
Anyways, the key factor is the refresh rate, whatever res you use must be a minimum of 100MHz (120MHz preferred)
Oh, and for 3D you MUST use a Dual-link DVI cable, HDMI will not work at present.
Hope that helps,
~Nutz
EDIT - Spelling
It will work fine, but the bigger question is why that res?
The thing is, various calibrations are made based around the native res of a display to maximize visual quality, so it's not recommended (as far as setting the res LOWER than the native res. Going HIGHER than the native res is always a benefit.
Anyways, the key factor is the refresh rate, whatever res you use must be a minimum of 100MHz (120MHz preferred)
Oh, and for 3D you MUST use a Dual-link DVI cable, HDMI will not work at present.
Thanks for the answer.
Acording to the manual, for 1024 x 768 the maximum refresh rate is 85hz so I guess I'm out of luck :-(
I use this resolution for a series of reasons:
* I can't see well the objects in high resolutions (like 1920 x 1080). When I install the video drivers, the resolution is automatically changed to 1920 x 1080 after rebooting. Everything is so small, I have to press my nose against the screen to see well and to revert the resolution back to the minimum (I used to use 800 x 600 but in Windows 8, the minimum is 1024 x 768)
* I've been using a 4:3 resolution (800 x 600) in wide monitors for more than 10 years now. I'm used to the way things look. When I see an object in a wide monitor with a 16:9 resolution, it looks too "stretched and thin" to me
* My graphics card doesn't support games at high resolutions. I tried it a few times out of curiosity and the games run slow and with some kind of.. stutter? (I'm not sure this is the correct word for what I'm trying to say). Anyway, at low resolution, all the games run great.
Do you have any idea what happens if I try to use 3D at less than 100hz?
I mean, you can see I'm used to "low quality" gaming. If there's no serious graphical issues or system instability (freeze, out of range errors, etc), then it's not a problem to me.
Acording to the manual, for 1024 x 768 the maximum refresh rate is 85hz so I guess I'm out of luck :-(
I use this resolution for a series of reasons:
* I can't see well the objects in high resolutions (like 1920 x 1080). When I install the video drivers, the resolution is automatically changed to 1920 x 1080 after rebooting. Everything is so small, I have to press my nose against the screen to see well and to revert the resolution back to the minimum (I used to use 800 x 600 but in Windows 8, the minimum is 1024 x 768)
* I've been using a 4:3 resolution (800 x 600) in wide monitors for more than 10 years now. I'm used to the way things look. When I see an object in a wide monitor with a 16:9 resolution, it looks too "stretched and thin" to me
* My graphics card doesn't support games at high resolutions. I tried it a few times out of curiosity and the games run slow and with some kind of.. stutter? (I'm not sure this is the correct word for what I'm trying to say). Anyway, at low resolution, all the games run great.
Do you have any idea what happens if I try to use 3D at less than 100hz?
I mean, you can see I'm used to "low quality" gaming. If there's no serious graphical issues or system instability (freeze, out of range errors, etc), then it's not a problem to me.
It would help to know your OS and GPU model.
Nvidia 3D Vision will only work with that monitor using a Display Port or a "Dual Link" DVI-D connection.
I'm pretty sure you could use 1280x720@120Hz.
EDIT: I just tried 1024x768@120Hz on a similar model, it works. But it's letterboxed all the way around. Same with 1280x720@120Hz. (ASUS VG278HE)
So 1920x1080@120Hz would be a better option.
Nvidia 3D Vision will only work with that monitor using a Display Port or a "Dual Link" DVI-D connection.
I'm pretty sure you could use 1280x720@120Hz.
EDIT: I just tried 1024x768@120Hz on a similar model, it works. But it's letterboxed all the way around. Same with 1280x720@120Hz. (ASUS VG278HE)
So 1920x1080@120Hz would be a better option.
Recently I've seen a few posts where a fesnel lens was used. No idea if it works very well, but perhaps it's an option?
http://www.mtbs3d.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=12795&sid=5fe2e0567336d87275079561ef735725
Thanks for the reply.
I've been reading the forum and other sites and it seems 3D Vision is about to become discontinued (you can't buy the glasses kits anymore).
So people are using something called Tridef but many have problems with it and it doesn't seem to wrok well specially with Nvidia cards. And it seems finding an emitter and glasses that work with each display is a problem as well.
I only bought this monitor for 3D. I'm not interested in its other features.
I can't find a 3D Vision glasses kit anywhere so I'd have to resort to Tridef but I don't know if it works with my monitor (Asus VG248QE) and my graphic card (GeForce GTX 550 Ti). And even if it works, what do I have to buy to make it work? I mean, where do I buy an emitter and glasses that works with my hardware and Tridef?
And after all that, the big questions remains, is Tridef worth it? Does it work well?
You guys seem to know more about 3D than me (I don't even know the difference between 3D passive and active glasses), so I'd also like to ask you this: is the current 3D situation worth all this hassle or is it better to just get rid of the monitor and invest the money on something else?
I've been reading the forum and other sites and it seems 3D Vision is about to become discontinued (you can't buy the glasses kits anymore).
So people are using something called Tridef but many have problems with it and it doesn't seem to wrok well specially with Nvidia cards. And it seems finding an emitter and glasses that work with each display is a problem as well.
I only bought this monitor for 3D. I'm not interested in its other features.
I can't find a 3D Vision glasses kit anywhere so I'd have to resort to Tridef but I don't know if it works with my monitor (Asus VG248QE) and my graphic card (GeForce GTX 550 Ti). And even if it works, what do I have to buy to make it work? I mean, where do I buy an emitter and glasses that works with my hardware and Tridef?
And after all that, the big questions remains, is Tridef worth it? Does it work well?
You guys seem to know more about 3D than me (I don't even know the difference between 3D passive and active glasses), so I'd also like to ask you this: is the current 3D situation worth all this hassle or is it better to just get rid of the monitor and invest the money on something else?
Do this instead- set your Display size setting. That will make everything a lot bigger in the UI, without having to run at such a low resolution.
Control Panel\Appearance and Personalization\Display
If you use that, it will allow you run the games in 3D without needing to set the low resolution. You can use 1280x720 if you want to make it easier on your video card, but it won't grow items while in game.
The glasses being discontinued has been refuted by a moderator:
[url]https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/793191/3d-vision/3d-vision-2-kit-supply-vanishing-/[/url]
For that monitor, you really need the 3D Vision kit, others won't work. Also, Tridef is just software, you'll need the glasses to make 3D work.
Lastly, oh yeah, it's totally worth it. 3D is best thing to happen to gaming ever. Hopefully you can find a kit.
Do this instead- set your Display size setting. That will make everything a lot bigger in the UI, without having to run at such a low resolution.
Control Panel\Appearance and Personalization\Display
If you use that, it will allow you run the games in 3D without needing to set the low resolution. You can use 1280x720 if you want to make it easier on your video card, but it won't grow items while in game.
The glasses being discontinued has been refuted by a moderator:
Yeah what the hell dude, haha. Just use the DPI settings in windows to make your icons bigger and such.
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[quote="Deniii"]* My graphics card doesn't support games at high resolutions. I tried it a few times out of curiosity and the games run slow and with some kind of.. stutter?[/quote] This is a big red flag. What are your system specs?
3D requires you to render games at double the framerate, so if you struggle even at 1080p, your 3D experience is going to have a lot of stutter, even at 1024x768.
Deniii said:* My graphics card doesn't support games at high resolutions. I tried it a few times out of curiosity and the games run slow and with some kind of.. stutter?
This is a big red flag. What are your system specs?
3D requires you to render games at double the framerate, so if you struggle even at 1080p, your 3D experience is going to have a lot of stutter, even at 1024x768.
Thanks everyone for the replies.
I could try the settings in control panel and see how it works.
The fesnel lens D-Man11 suggested also seems interesting. It's like a giant magnifying glass. Where do you buy those things?
Pirateguybrush, I have a GeForce GTX 550 Ti.
Starcraft 2 was the only game that I tried that ran fine at 1080p
Bo3b, I've read the thread you mentioned.
I understand the "doom and gloom" attitude. It reminds me of the WiiU situation: so many people kept saying it would fail and dissapear that in the end, that's the future they created. Now the poor WiiU is about to dissapear.
Also, when you said "[...]When companies are surprised by demand spikes, it takes awhile to get more product out[...]" it reminded me of a similar situation. Didn't that happen to IBM many many years ago when they released the first home PC?
You could be right and the same is happening here.
Also I'd like to ask, what's the problem with Windows 8.1?
I ask this because that's what I'm using now (8.1 Update 1 actually)
Well, I will wait a few weeks and see if this guy Josh is telling the truth. If the kits are back in stock, I will keep the monitor. If they aren't, I'll sell it.
I could try the settings in control panel and see how it works.
The fesnel lens D-Man11 suggested also seems interesting. It's like a giant magnifying glass. Where do you buy those things?
Pirateguybrush, I have a GeForce GTX 550 Ti.
Starcraft 2 was the only game that I tried that ran fine at 1080p
Bo3b, I've read the thread you mentioned.
I understand the "doom and gloom" attitude. It reminds me of the WiiU situation: so many people kept saying it would fail and dissapear that in the end, that's the future they created. Now the poor WiiU is about to dissapear.
Also, when you said "[...]When companies are surprised by demand spikes, it takes awhile to get more product out[...]" it reminded me of a similar situation. Didn't that happen to IBM many many years ago when they released the first home PC?
You could be right and the same is happening here.
Also I'd like to ask, what's the problem with Windows 8.1?
I ask this because that's what I'm using now (8.1 Update 1 actually)
Well, I will wait a few weeks and see if this guy Josh is telling the truth. If the kits are back in stock, I will keep the monitor. If they aren't, I'll sell it.
Not to be rude, but if you need 1024x768 to read stuff on the screen, you may want to go to the eye doctor and see if you need glasses. It's a huge quality of life boost being able to see clearly if your eye's have degraded.
Not to be rude, but if you need 1024x768 to read stuff on the screen, you may want to go to the eye doctor and see if you need glasses. It's a huge quality of life boost being able to see clearly if your eye's have degraded.
@Pirateguybrush: I play all kind of games, old and new. If I can't get a new game to run in 3D, it's OK. I've been playing in 2D all my life, I'm used to it. There are old games that support 3D and I haven't played yet.
What I'd really like to play in 3D is emulators. It'd be great if I could play Clock Tower (Super Famicom), Biohazard 2 (PS), Shock Troopers (NeoGeo) and many more in 3D.
Do you know if someone has made some kind of plugin or something to make emulators display video in 3D?
@cybereality: I use glasses already. The thing is, glasses make you see things more clear but their size remains the same.
I think I need binoculars for the PC.
But seriously, I don't know how people manage to read text at 1920 x 1080 (or higher). I can barely see the icons, let alone text.
Thanks for your concern anyway.
@Pirateguybrush: I play all kind of games, old and new. If I can't get a new game to run in 3D, it's OK. I've been playing in 2D all my life, I'm used to it. There are old games that support 3D and I haven't played yet.
What I'd really like to play in 3D is emulators. It'd be great if I could play Clock Tower (Super Famicom), Biohazard 2 (PS), Shock Troopers (NeoGeo) and many more in 3D.
Do you know if someone has made some kind of plugin or something to make emulators display video in 3D?
@cybereality: I use glasses already. The thing is, glasses make you see things more clear but their size remains the same.
I think I need binoculars for the PC.
But seriously, I don't know how people manage to read text at 1920 x 1080 (or higher). I can barely see the icons, let alone text.
Thanks for your concern anyway.
[quote="Deniii"]
@cybereality: I use glasses already. The thing is, glasses make you see things more clear but their size remains the same.
I think I need binoculars for the PC.
But seriously, I don't know how people manage to read text at 1920 x 1080 (or higher). I can barely see the icons, let alone text.
Thanks for your concern anyway.[/quote]
Just as a data point, I use glasses too, but I can read all the text on 24 inch 1080p monitor at a distance of 2 feet. Even the names of the icons on the desktop. This is all standard settings, no DPI changes or anything.
If it's been awhile since you've had your eyes checked, you should definitely do so.
If you don't already know that you have vision problems, you should know that your vision is definitely outside of the norm.
Deniii said:
@cybereality: I use glasses already. The thing is, glasses make you see things more clear but their size remains the same.
I think I need binoculars for the PC.
But seriously, I don't know how people manage to read text at 1920 x 1080 (or higher). I can barely see the icons, let alone text.
Thanks for your concern anyway.
Just as a data point, I use glasses too, but I can read all the text on 24 inch 1080p monitor at a distance of 2 feet. Even the names of the icons on the desktop. This is all standard settings, no DPI changes or anything.
If it's been awhile since you've had your eyes checked, you should definitely do so.
If you don't already know that you have vision problems, you should know that your vision is definitely outside of the norm.
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After browsing the web about this matter, I could not find an answer for my problem.
I tried asking in another site but nobody gave me an answer so I'll ask here as well.
The thing is I want to use 3D at resolution 1024 x 768.
Is it possible to achieve this with this monitor via DVI and/or HDMI cable?
I didn't buy the 3D glasses yet and if the only way to use 3D is via DVI at 1920 x 1080 like the manual suggests, then I'm not interested in the monitor and will sell it.
If someone could confirm this, I'd appreciate it.
The thing is, various calibrations are made based around the native res of a display to maximize visual quality, so it's not recommended (as far as setting the res LOWER than the native res. Going HIGHER than the native res is always a benefit.
Anyways, the key factor is the refresh rate, whatever res you use must be a minimum of 100MHz (120MHz preferred)
Oh, and for 3D you MUST use a Dual-link DVI cable, HDMI will not work at present.
Hope that helps,
~Nutz
EDIT - Spelling
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Acording to the manual, for 1024 x 768 the maximum refresh rate is 85hz so I guess I'm out of luck :-(
I use this resolution for a series of reasons:
* I can't see well the objects in high resolutions (like 1920 x 1080). When I install the video drivers, the resolution is automatically changed to 1920 x 1080 after rebooting. Everything is so small, I have to press my nose against the screen to see well and to revert the resolution back to the minimum (I used to use 800 x 600 but in Windows 8, the minimum is 1024 x 768)
* I've been using a 4:3 resolution (800 x 600) in wide monitors for more than 10 years now. I'm used to the way things look. When I see an object in a wide monitor with a 16:9 resolution, it looks too "stretched and thin" to me
* My graphics card doesn't support games at high resolutions. I tried it a few times out of curiosity and the games run slow and with some kind of.. stutter? (I'm not sure this is the correct word for what I'm trying to say). Anyway, at low resolution, all the games run great.
Do you have any idea what happens if I try to use 3D at less than 100hz?
I mean, you can see I'm used to "low quality" gaming. If there's no serious graphical issues or system instability (freeze, out of range errors, etc), then it's not a problem to me.
Nvidia 3D Vision will only work with that monitor using a Display Port or a "Dual Link" DVI-D connection.
I'm pretty sure you could use 1280x720@120Hz.
EDIT: I just tried 1024x768@120Hz on a similar model, it works. But it's letterboxed all the way around. Same with 1280x720@120Hz. (ASUS VG278HE)
So 1920x1080@120Hz would be a better option.
http://www.mtbs3d.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=12795&sid=5fe2e0567336d87275079561ef735725
I've been reading the forum and other sites and it seems 3D Vision is about to become discontinued (you can't buy the glasses kits anymore).
So people are using something called Tridef but many have problems with it and it doesn't seem to wrok well specially with Nvidia cards. And it seems finding an emitter and glasses that work with each display is a problem as well.
I only bought this monitor for 3D. I'm not interested in its other features.
I can't find a 3D Vision glasses kit anywhere so I'd have to resort to Tridef but I don't know if it works with my monitor (Asus VG248QE) and my graphic card (GeForce GTX 550 Ti). And even if it works, what do I have to buy to make it work? I mean, where do I buy an emitter and glasses that works with my hardware and Tridef?
And after all that, the big questions remains, is Tridef worth it? Does it work well?
You guys seem to know more about 3D than me (I don't even know the difference between 3D passive and active glasses), so I'd also like to ask you this: is the current 3D situation worth all this hassle or is it better to just get rid of the monitor and invest the money on something else?
Control Panel\Appearance and Personalization\Display
If you use that, it will allow you run the games in 3D without needing to set the low resolution. You can use 1280x720 if you want to make it easier on your video card, but it won't grow items while in game.
The glasses being discontinued has been refuted by a moderator:
https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/793191/3d-vision/3d-vision-2-kit-supply-vanishing-/
For that monitor, you really need the 3D Vision kit, others won't work. Also, Tridef is just software, you'll need the glasses to make 3D work.
Lastly, oh yeah, it's totally worth it. 3D is best thing to happen to gaming ever. Hopefully you can find a kit.
Acer H5360 (1280x720@120Hz) - ASUS VG248QE with GSync mod - 3D Vision 1&2 - Driver 372.54
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Obutto R3volution.
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3D requires you to render games at double the framerate, so if you struggle even at 1080p, your 3D experience is going to have a lot of stutter, even at 1024x768.
I could try the settings in control panel and see how it works.
The fesnel lens D-Man11 suggested also seems interesting. It's like a giant magnifying glass. Where do you buy those things?
Pirateguybrush, I have a GeForce GTX 550 Ti.
Starcraft 2 was the only game that I tried that ran fine at 1080p
Bo3b, I've read the thread you mentioned.
I understand the "doom and gloom" attitude. It reminds me of the WiiU situation: so many people kept saying it would fail and dissapear that in the end, that's the future they created. Now the poor WiiU is about to dissapear.
Also, when you said "[...]When companies are surprised by demand spikes, it takes awhile to get more product out[...]" it reminded me of a similar situation. Didn't that happen to IBM many many years ago when they released the first home PC?
You could be right and the same is happening here.
Also I'd like to ask, what's the problem with Windows 8.1?
I ask this because that's what I'm using now (8.1 Update 1 actually)
Well, I will wait a few weeks and see if this guy Josh is telling the truth. If the kits are back in stock, I will keep the monitor. If they aren't, I'll sell it.
check my blog - cybereality.com
What I'd really like to play in 3D is emulators. It'd be great if I could play Clock Tower (Super Famicom), Biohazard 2 (PS), Shock Troopers (NeoGeo) and many more in 3D.
Do you know if someone has made some kind of plugin or something to make emulators display video in 3D?
@cybereality: I use glasses already. The thing is, glasses make you see things more clear but their size remains the same.
I think I need binoculars for the PC.
But seriously, I don't know how people manage to read text at 1920 x 1080 (or higher). I can barely see the icons, let alone text.
Thanks for your concern anyway.
Just as a data point, I use glasses too, but I can read all the text on 24 inch 1080p monitor at a distance of 2 feet. Even the names of the icons on the desktop. This is all standard settings, no DPI changes or anything.
If it's been awhile since you've had your eyes checked, you should definitely do so.
If you don't already know that you have vision problems, you should know that your vision is definitely outside of the norm.
Acer H5360 (1280x720@120Hz) - ASUS VG248QE with GSync mod - 3D Vision 1&2 - Driver 372.54
GTX 970 - i5-4670K@4.2GHz - 12GB RAM - Win7x64+evilKB2670838 - 4 Disk X25 RAID
SAGER NP9870-S - GTX 980 - i7-6700K - Win10 Pro 1607
Latest 3Dmigoto Release
Bo3b's School for ShaderHackers