[quote name='PiXeL' post='1032359' date='Apr 1 2010, 10:49 PM']give the iz3d drivers a try as they now support 120hz projectors. not sure about 3dglasses support though...[/quote]
It is just a beta and has no sli the driver has lots of bugs but it's comming and no draconian waiting in the background to take stuff away from you like nvidia does everytime they release a driver.. I would wait for iz3d 2.0
you will need dlp-link glasses for this driver on a dlp-link projector like optima or acer Maybe ed-glasses with blc code would work but there a pain and they break easy bla bla bla
[quote name='PiXeL' post='1032359' date='Apr 1 2010, 10:49 PM']give the iz3d drivers a try as they now support 120hz projectors. not sure about 3dglasses support though...
It is just a beta and has no sli the driver has lots of bugs but it's comming and no draconian waiting in the background to take stuff away from you like nvidia does everytime they release a driver.. I would wait for iz3d 2.0
you will need dlp-link glasses for this driver on a dlp-link projector like optima or acer Maybe ed-glasses with blc code would work but there a pain and they break easy bla bla bla
After doing a last test..with VGA and DVI/HDMI ....
... there were heavy color shifting problems.
Then I tried VGA and delay dongle ,which i used with my older dlp projector .
And it never happened again .
So no DVI input but VGA working at last ...
... the only thing now is maximum depth ,whats missing . ...
Its strange ... maybe the usb IR emitter driver is not really working well at 120hz ...
@PiXeL : ... i think the iz3d driver needs dlp link glasses at least ... like Crash27 said .
The registry hack works for me, but only for games i have not ran before. Other games just use the old depth settings.
I've stated a similair thread a while back about this. Back then nobody really replied, but now there are more h5360 owners. Andrew? Do you think you can change the Acer H5360 preset to allow more depth? Because it is really to low. Compare the depth settings to the samsung 2233RZ and see the difference.
The registry hack works for me, but only for games i have not ran before. Other games just use the old depth settings.
I've stated a similair thread a while back about this. Back then nobody really replied, but now there are more h5360 owners. Andrew? Do you think you can change the Acer H5360 preset to allow more depth? Because it is really to low. Compare the depth settings to the samsung 2233RZ and see the difference.
[quote name='bartdesign' post='1035119' date='Apr 6 2010, 06:07 PM']The registry hack works for me, but only for games i have not ran before. Other games just use the old depth settings.
I've stated a similair thread a while back about this. Back then nobody really replied, but now there are more h5360 owners. Andrew? Do you think you can change the Acer H5360 preset to allow more depth? Because it is really to low. Compare the depth settings to the samsung 2233RZ and see the difference.[/quote]
I'm not having the same issues as most everyone on this thread with regard to depth on the Acer (or any projector). I usually run at 50% with them and have a great experience.
There is also the issue that the math for eye separation is different between a desktop monitor and a LCD.
So is the request to just make the projection eye separation more?
[quote name='bartdesign' post='1035119' date='Apr 6 2010, 06:07 PM']The registry hack works for me, but only for games i have not ran before. Other games just use the old depth settings.
I've stated a similair thread a while back about this. Back then nobody really replied, but now there are more h5360 owners. Andrew? Do you think you can change the Acer H5360 preset to allow more depth? Because it is really to low. Compare the depth settings to the samsung 2233RZ and see the difference.
I'm not having the same issues as most everyone on this thread with regard to depth on the Acer (or any projector). I usually run at 50% with them and have a great experience.
There is also the issue that the math for eye separation is different between a desktop monitor and a LCD.
So is the request to just make the projection eye separation more?
[quote name='andrewf@nvidia' post='1035236' date='Apr 7 2010, 04:54 AM']I'm not having the same issues as most everyone on this thread with regard to depth on the Acer (or any projector). I usually run at 50% with them and have a great experience.
There is also the issue that the math for eye separation is different between a desktop monitor and a LCD.
So is the request to just make the projection eye separation more?[/quote]
Yes. The experience is still good on the Acer 5360, but It needs more separation. I also have the Acer 24" and it gets alot more depth then the projector does. The 3D effect is less pronounced on the projector then on the smaller Acer monitor.
[quote name='andrewf@nvidia' post='1035236' date='Apr 7 2010, 04:54 AM']I'm not having the same issues as most everyone on this thread with regard to depth on the Acer (or any projector). I usually run at 50% with them and have a great experience.
There is also the issue that the math for eye separation is different between a desktop monitor and a LCD.
So is the request to just make the projection eye separation more?
Yes. The experience is still good on the Acer 5360, but It needs more separation. I also have the Acer 24" and it gets alot more depth then the projector does. The 3D effect is less pronounced on the projector then on the smaller Acer monitor.
[quote name='andrewf@nvidia' post='1035236' date='Apr 7 2010, 04:54 AM']I'm not having the same issues as most everyone on this thread with regard to depth on the Acer (or any projector). I usually run at 50% with them and have a great experience.
There is also the issue that the math for eye separation is different between a desktop monitor and a LCD.
So is the request to just make the projection eye separation more?[/quote]
Yes please :)
There are many requests for this, not only in this topic but in other H5360 topics aswell.
[quote name='andrewf@nvidia' post='1035236' date='Apr 7 2010, 04:54 AM']I'm not having the same issues as most everyone on this thread with regard to depth on the Acer (or any projector). I usually run at 50% with them and have a great experience.
There is also the issue that the math for eye separation is different between a desktop monitor and a LCD.
So is the request to just make the projection eye separation more?
Yes please :)
There are many requests for this, not only in this topic but in other H5360 topics aswell.
[quote name='andrewf@nvidia' post='1035236' date='Apr 7 2010, 05:54 AM']I'm not having the same issues as most everyone on this thread with regard to depth on the Acer (or any projector). I usually run at 50% with them and have a great experience.
There is also the issue that the math for eye separation is different between a desktop monitor and a LCD.
So is the request to just make the projection eye separation more?[/quote]
YES /yes.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':yes:' /> ... this would be very nice , as I havent played much on the acer since I bought it , because of to small separation .
On projector it doesnt make sense having a fixed maximum separation because you dont know how big the screen is you watch .
And thank you Andrew for responding to this issue.
[quote name='andrewf@nvidia' post='1035236' date='Apr 7 2010, 05:54 AM']I'm not having the same issues as most everyone on this thread with regard to depth on the Acer (or any projector). I usually run at 50% with them and have a great experience.
There is also the issue that the math for eye separation is different between a desktop monitor and a LCD.
So is the request to just make the projection eye separation more?
YES /yes.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':yes:' /> ... this would be very nice , as I havent played much on the acer since I bought it , because of to small separation .
On projector it doesnt make sense having a fixed maximum separation because you dont know how big the screen is you watch .
And thank you Andrew for responding to this issue.
As my Acer H5360 just arrived today, I cannot comment on the depth-issue yet. Until now, I've been playing on my old crt-Dell-monitor running at 85hz, and the impression of depth is really awesome at 100% depth.
If it's really true that the separation on the beamer is lower than on a monitor, the count me in on the "wishlist" for more separation on projectors. :-)
btw: soooooooo looking forward to hooking up the pj, but right now I'm at work... :-( But tonight will be a great moment in my still young stereoscopic career. /woot.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':woot:' />
As my Acer H5360 just arrived today, I cannot comment on the depth-issue yet. Until now, I've been playing on my old crt-Dell-monitor running at 85hz, and the impression of depth is really awesome at 100% depth.
If it's really true that the separation on the beamer is lower than on a monitor, the count me in on the "wishlist" for more separation on projectors. :-)
btw: soooooooo looking forward to hooking up the pj, but right now I'm at work... :-( But tonight will be a great moment in my still young stereoscopic career. /woot.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':woot:' />
Life is like a fully powered 3D-Vision rig where you can wrec havoc in just cause 2.
Okay, maybe not. Want some chocolate? I'm swiss! :-P
I've tried the 3D Vision briefly with some games, with my 22" and with my Acer 100". I think I've got the max. separation somewhere around 10% and I'm not a stereo novice. I actually work with stereoscopic images and movies everyday. I somehow think my settings are different than most of the peoples? I could never use the max separation on either of those screens, it would of course look cool, but be very hard to fuse. For a reference, most 3D movies use a max separation of around 2-4% of the screen width depending on the screen size, and other factors.. 4% is borderline tolerable for a short time on a big screen.
I've tried the 3D Vision briefly with some games, with my 22" and with my Acer 100". I think I've got the max. separation somewhere around 10% and I'm not a stereo novice. I actually work with stereoscopic images and movies everyday. I somehow think my settings are different than most of the peoples? I could never use the max separation on either of those screens, it would of course look cool, but be very hard to fuse. For a reference, most 3D movies use a max separation of around 2-4% of the screen width depending on the screen size, and other factors.. 4% is borderline tolerable for a short time on a big screen.
I briefly tried the Acer yesterday and started with a depth-setting of 50%, but immediately jumped to 100%. I have to confirm that the subjective "feeling" of depth was way stronger on the CRT than on the big screen, both running at 100%. On either the CRT or the PJ, I never had problem fusing the images.
My subjective feeling is, that the PJ has "less" depth than the CRT. It would be lovely if we could officially change those settings by ourselves.
I briefly tried the Acer yesterday and started with a depth-setting of 50%, but immediately jumped to 100%. I have to confirm that the subjective "feeling" of depth was way stronger on the CRT than on the big screen, both running at 100%. On either the CRT or the PJ, I never had problem fusing the images.
My subjective feeling is, that the PJ has "less" depth than the CRT. It would be lovely if we could officially change those settings by ourselves.
Life is like a fully powered 3D-Vision rig where you can wrec havoc in just cause 2.
Okay, maybe not. Want some chocolate? I'm swiss! :-P
[quote name='andrewf@nvidia' post='1035236' date='Apr 6 2010, 09:54 PM']I'm not having the same issues as most everyone on this thread with regard to depth on the Acer (or any projector). I usually run at 50% with them and have a great experience.
There is also the issue that the math for eye separation is different between a desktop monitor and a LCD.
So is the request to just make the projection eye separation more?[/quote]
My request is to make max depth user adjustable for all monitors. /confused.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':confused:' /> Everyone is going to have different tastes and PC gaming is all about providing for those tastes. Whereas 50% is plenty for you to enjoy, that is much too low for me and in many games even 100% is too little.
Seriously Andrew, why are things so draconian when it comes to 3d vision user settings? These limitations act as roadblocks to my enjoyment of stereo 3d. Don't get me wrong, I do like 3d vision, but the nV imposed limitations are quite annoying and do have an effect on my attitude towards it.
[quote name='andrewf@nvidia' post='1035236' date='Apr 6 2010, 09:54 PM']I'm not having the same issues as most everyone on this thread with regard to depth on the Acer (or any projector). I usually run at 50% with them and have a great experience.
There is also the issue that the math for eye separation is different between a desktop monitor and a LCD.
So is the request to just make the projection eye separation more?
My request is to make max depth user adjustable for all monitors. /confused.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':confused:' /> Everyone is going to have different tastes and PC gaming is all about providing for those tastes. Whereas 50% is plenty for you to enjoy, that is much too low for me and in many games even 100% is too little.
Seriously Andrew, why are things so draconian when it comes to 3d vision user settings? These limitations act as roadblocks to my enjoyment of stereo 3d. Don't get me wrong, I do like 3d vision, but the nV imposed limitations are quite annoying and do have an effect on my attitude towards it.
The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire.
It is just a beta and has no sli the driver has lots of bugs but it's comming and no draconian waiting in the background to take stuff away from you like nvidia does everytime they release a driver.. I would wait for iz3d 2.0
you will need dlp-link glasses for this driver on a dlp-link projector like optima or acer Maybe ed-glasses with blc code would work but there a pain and they break easy bla bla bla
It is just a beta and has no sli the driver has lots of bugs but it's comming and no draconian waiting in the background to take stuff away from you like nvidia does everytime they release a driver.. I would wait for iz3d 2.0
you will need dlp-link glasses for this driver on a dlp-link projector like optima or acer Maybe ed-glasses with blc code would work but there a pain and they break easy bla bla bla
After doing a last test..with VGA and DVI/HDMI ....
... there were heavy color shifting problems.
Then I tried VGA and delay dongle ,which i used with my older dlp projector .
And it never happened again .
So no DVI input but VGA working at last ...
... the only thing now is maximum depth ,whats missing . ...
Its strange ... maybe the usb IR emitter driver is not really working well at 120hz ...
@PiXeL : ... i think the iz3d driver needs dlp link glasses at least ... like Crash27 said .
regards
steps
After doing a last test..with VGA and DVI/HDMI ....
... there were heavy color shifting problems.
Then I tried VGA and delay dongle ,which i used with my older dlp projector .
And it never happened again .
So no DVI input but VGA working at last ...
... the only thing now is maximum depth ,whats missing . ...
Its strange ... maybe the usb IR emitter driver is not really working well at 120hz ...
@PiXeL : ... i think the iz3d driver needs dlp link glasses at least ... like Crash27 said .
regards
steps
Windows 10 64bit, AMD Ryzen 5 1600X, Nvidia GTX 780
Acer HN274H and Acer H5360
http://phereo.com/stepsbarto
I've stated a similair thread a while back about this. Back then nobody really replied, but now there are more h5360 owners. Andrew? Do you think you can change the Acer H5360 preset to allow more depth? Because it is really to low. Compare the depth settings to the samsung 2233RZ and see the difference.
I've stated a similair thread a while back about this. Back then nobody really replied, but now there are more h5360 owners. Andrew? Do you think you can change the Acer H5360 preset to allow more depth? Because it is really to low. Compare the depth settings to the samsung 2233RZ and see the difference.
I've stated a similair thread a while back about this. Back then nobody really replied, but now there are more h5360 owners. Andrew? Do you think you can change the Acer H5360 preset to allow more depth? Because it is really to low. Compare the depth settings to the samsung 2233RZ and see the difference.[/quote]
I'm not having the same issues as most everyone on this thread with regard to depth on the Acer (or any projector). I usually run at 50% with them and have a great experience.
There is also the issue that the math for eye separation is different between a desktop monitor and a LCD.
So is the request to just make the projection eye separation more?
I've stated a similair thread a while back about this. Back then nobody really replied, but now there are more h5360 owners. Andrew? Do you think you can change the Acer H5360 preset to allow more depth? Because it is really to low. Compare the depth settings to the samsung 2233RZ and see the difference.
I'm not having the same issues as most everyone on this thread with regard to depth on the Acer (or any projector). I usually run at 50% with them and have a great experience.
There is also the issue that the math for eye separation is different between a desktop monitor and a LCD.
So is the request to just make the projection eye separation more?
I'm using the Viewsonic Pjd-6210-3d and 100% depth feels like 50% on an LCD to me.
I'm using the Viewsonic Pjd-6210-3d and 100% depth feels like 50% on an LCD to me.
There is also the issue that the math for eye separation is different between a desktop monitor and a LCD.
So is the request to just make the projection eye separation more?[/quote]
Yes. The experience is still good on the Acer 5360, but It needs more separation. I also have the Acer 24" and it gets alot more depth then the projector does. The 3D effect is less pronounced on the projector then on the smaller Acer monitor.
There is also the issue that the math for eye separation is different between a desktop monitor and a LCD.
So is the request to just make the projection eye separation more?
Yes. The experience is still good on the Acer 5360, but It needs more separation. I also have the Acer 24" and it gets alot more depth then the projector does. The 3D effect is less pronounced on the projector then on the smaller Acer monitor.
There is also the issue that the math for eye separation is different between a desktop monitor and a LCD.
So is the request to just make the projection eye separation more?[/quote]
Yes please :)
There are many requests for this, not only in this topic but in other H5360 topics aswell.
There is also the issue that the math for eye separation is different between a desktop monitor and a LCD.
So is the request to just make the projection eye separation more?
Yes please :)
There are many requests for this, not only in this topic but in other H5360 topics aswell.
There is also the issue that the math for eye separation is different between a desktop monitor and a LCD.
So is the request to just make the projection eye separation more?[/quote]
YES
On projector it doesnt make sense having a fixed maximum separation because you dont know how big the screen is you watch .
And thank you Andrew for responding to this issue.
regards
steps
There is also the issue that the math for eye separation is different between a desktop monitor and a LCD.
So is the request to just make the projection eye separation more?
YES
On projector it doesnt make sense having a fixed maximum separation because you dont know how big the screen is you watch .
And thank you Andrew for responding to this issue.
regards
steps
Windows 10 64bit, AMD Ryzen 5 1600X, Nvidia GTX 780
Acer HN274H and Acer H5360
http://phereo.com/stepsbarto
If it's really true that the separation on the beamer is lower than on a monitor, the count me in on the "wishlist" for more separation on projectors. :-)
btw: soooooooo looking forward to hooking up the pj, but right now I'm at work... :-( But tonight will be a great moment in my still young stereoscopic career.
If it's really true that the separation on the beamer is lower than on a monitor, the count me in on the "wishlist" for more separation on projectors. :-)
btw: soooooooo looking forward to hooking up the pj, but right now I'm at work... :-( But tonight will be a great moment in my still young stereoscopic career.
Life is like a fully powered 3D-Vision rig where you can wrec havoc in just cause 2.
Okay, maybe not. Want some chocolate? I'm swiss! :-P
What's wrong with your eyes ;o?
I've tried the 3D Vision briefly with some games, with my 22" and with my Acer 100". I think I've got the max. separation somewhere around 10% and I'm not a stereo novice. I actually work with stereoscopic images and movies everyday. I somehow think my settings are different than most of the peoples? I could never use the max separation on either of those screens, it would of course look cool, but be very hard to fuse. For a reference, most 3D movies use a max separation of around 2-4% of the screen width depending on the screen size, and other factors.. 4% is borderline tolerable for a short time on a big screen.
What's wrong with your eyes ;o?
I've tried the 3D Vision briefly with some games, with my 22" and with my Acer 100". I think I've got the max. separation somewhere around 10% and I'm not a stereo novice. I actually work with stereoscopic images and movies everyday. I somehow think my settings are different than most of the peoples? I could never use the max separation on either of those screens, it would of course look cool, but be very hard to fuse. For a reference, most 3D movies use a max separation of around 2-4% of the screen width depending on the screen size, and other factors.. 4% is borderline tolerable for a short time on a big screen.
My subjective feeling is, that the PJ has "less" depth than the CRT. It would be lovely if we could officially change those settings by ourselves.
My subjective feeling is, that the PJ has "less" depth than the CRT. It would be lovely if we could officially change those settings by ourselves.
Life is like a fully powered 3D-Vision rig where you can wrec havoc in just cause 2.
Okay, maybe not. Want some chocolate? I'm swiss! :-P
depth override (multiplier)
sync delay slider
turn off start up messages
hotkeys for multiple convergence/depth settings
bonus stuff:
a cooler looking test screen
a free 3D nvidia screensaver
buy or fully support stereophotomaker
any additions anyone?
depth override (multiplier)
sync delay slider
turn off start up messages
hotkeys for multiple convergence/depth settings
bonus stuff:
a cooler looking test screen
a free 3D nvidia screensaver
buy or fully support stereophotomaker
any additions anyone?
Windows 8
470GTX
Nvidia 3D Vision Kit (glasses are useless now)
Passive LG LW57000 55"
Optoma HD33
Razer Hydra
TrackIR
Oculus Rift (soon)
Two crossed eyes
depth override (multiplier)
sync delay slider
turn off start up messages
hotkeys for multiple convergence/depth settings
bonus stuff:
a cooler looking test screen
a free 3D nvidia screensaver
buy or fully support stereophotomaker
any additions anyone?
depth override (multiplier)
sync delay slider
turn off start up messages
hotkeys for multiple convergence/depth settings
bonus stuff:
a cooler looking test screen
a free 3D nvidia screensaver
buy or fully support stereophotomaker
any additions anyone?
Windows 8
470GTX
Nvidia 3D Vision Kit (glasses are useless now)
Passive LG LW57000 55"
Optoma HD33
Razer Hydra
TrackIR
Oculus Rift (soon)
Two crossed eyes
There is also the issue that the math for eye separation is different between a desktop monitor and a LCD.
So is the request to just make the projection eye separation more?[/quote]
My request is to make max depth user adjustable for all monitors.
Seriously Andrew, why are things so draconian when it comes to 3d vision user settings? These limitations act as roadblocks to my enjoyment of stereo 3d. Don't get me wrong, I do like 3d vision, but the nV imposed limitations are quite annoying and do have an effect on my attitude towards it.
There is also the issue that the math for eye separation is different between a desktop monitor and a LCD.
So is the request to just make the projection eye separation more?
My request is to make max depth user adjustable for all monitors.
Seriously Andrew, why are things so draconian when it comes to 3d vision user settings? These limitations act as roadblocks to my enjoyment of stereo 3d. Don't get me wrong, I do like 3d vision, but the nV imposed limitations are quite annoying and do have an effect on my attitude towards it.
The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire.
--Robert A. Heinlein