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[s]Rage 2 will only be available to buy directly from Bethesda :([/s] https://store.steampowered.com/app/548570/RAGE_2/ https://bethesda.net/en/game/rage2 May 14, 2019 It was developed by Avalanche Studios using their in house Apex Engine, the same one used for Mad Max and Just Cause 3/4. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgPRE5pak6k There's another game by avalanche releasing March 26th, gameplay looks a little lack luster/repetitive for single player (just killing robot after robot?). It will have online multi-player https://store.steampowered.com/app/704270/Generation_Zero/ Also for those that do not know, Bethesda has a new IP called Starpoint. It will not be releasing any time soon, but it is sci-fi based https://bethesda.net/en/game/starfield Note: Just Cause 4 fix by Losti contains some Regex features and might partially work with this game at launch. No guarantee :P [url]https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/1086197/3d-vision/just-cause-4/post/5938171/#5938171[/url]
Rage 2 will only be available to buy directly from Bethesda :(
https://store.steampowered.com/app/548570/RAGE_2/

https://bethesda.net/en/game/rage2
May 14, 2019

It was developed by Avalanche Studios using their in house Apex Engine, the same one used for Mad Max and Just Cause 3/4.



There's another game by avalanche releasing March 26th, gameplay looks a little lack luster/repetitive for single player (just killing robot after robot?). It will have online multi-player
https://store.steampowered.com/app/704270/Generation_Zero/

Also for those that do not know, Bethesda has a new IP called Starpoint. It will not be releasing any time soon, but it is sci-fi based

https://bethesda.net/en/game/starfield

Note: Just Cause 4 fix by Losti contains some Regex features and might partially work with this game at launch. No guarantee :P
https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/1086197/3d-vision/just-cause-4/post/5938171/#5938171

#1
Posted 02/19/2019 07:41 PM   
"Interestingly enough, Tim Willits also confirmed that the development team is taking a Games as a Service approach with RAGE 2, as they want people to play RAGE 2 longer. Details will be revealed in the future, but Willits teased that the team has some fun stuff in the works" https://wccftech.com/rage-2-lootboxes/
"Interestingly enough, Tim Willits also confirmed that the development team is taking a Games as a Service approach with RAGE 2, as they want people to play RAGE 2 longer. Details will be revealed in the future, but Willits teased that the team has some fun stuff in the works"


https://wccftech.com/rage-2-lootboxes/

#2
Posted 02/19/2019 08:15 PM   
I enjoyed the first Rage and really liked the ID tech 7 Engine it ran on. I spent a lot of time developing with OpenGL and prefer it over DirectX for multiple reasons (primarly fuck Micro$oft). John Carmack, who unfortunately is no longer with ID, is also a technical genius, so I've always been a big fan of the engines that him and ID have developed. Sure, Rage had a ton of technical issues with the texture streaming when it was first released, textures looked blurry up close, and there wasn't much in the way of dynamic lighting since the lighting was baked into the textures. That being said, artistically is was top notch, all the textures were unique and the baked in lighting looked really good. All this combined made the environments look incredibly organic and life like. Playing it with Helifax's OpenGL 3D vision wrapper was a real treat. On top of that the AI was pretty awesome, the way enemies were animated and how they traversed the environment is still impressive to this day. When Rage 2 was announced I was pretty hyped, as a developer I was really looking forward to see what ID would do next with the ID Tech Engine... Then i found out that Avalanche was developing it using their Apex engine. Now don't get me wrong, Avalanche are a decent developer. But I've never considered their games AAA, definitely a far cry from ID in terms of quality. On top of that their last release, Just Cause 4 (their leading IP) was universally panned. Most people consider it a downgrade from JC3. It was riddled with bugs and mediocre repetitive gameplay. It was only announced about a year before it's release. Avalanche just released Just Cause 4, and they've been working on another online multiplayer shooter which looks like absolute garbage. They're not a big studio by any means so releasing this many games in such a short time span is probably stretching them super thin. All this combined give me the feeling that Rage 2 is being rushed out the door quickly and will be pretty buggy. I've got a feeling like this is going to be a re-skinned version of Mad Max. They're basically throwing a bunch of pink and purple colors and adding in some mutants to make it look different. Most of the gameplay i've seen has been outdoors, most outdoor games nowadays are following the Ubisoft path of simply littering the map with icons and menial tasks to artificially extend game play. Given Avalanche's track record they'll probably do the same thing here. So yeah, my interest in this has basically plummeted. Add in the "Games as a Service" BS, loot boxes etc... I'm expecting this to be utter crap. Hopefully I'm wrong, I'll reserve my final judgement after it's actually released, but for now my expectations are abysmally low.
I enjoyed the first Rage and really liked the ID tech 7 Engine it ran on. I spent a lot of time developing with OpenGL and prefer it over DirectX for multiple reasons (primarly fuck Micro$oft). John Carmack, who unfortunately is no longer with ID, is also a technical genius, so I've always been a big fan of the engines that him and ID have developed. Sure, Rage had a ton of technical issues with the texture streaming when it was first released, textures looked blurry up close, and there wasn't much in the way of dynamic lighting since the lighting was baked into the textures. That being said, artistically is was top notch, all the textures were unique and the baked in lighting looked really good. All this combined made the environments look incredibly organic and life like. Playing it with Helifax's OpenGL 3D vision wrapper was a real treat. On top of that the AI was pretty awesome, the way enemies were animated and how they traversed the environment is still impressive to this day.

When Rage 2 was announced I was pretty hyped, as a developer I was really looking forward to see what ID would do next with the ID Tech Engine... Then i found out that Avalanche was developing it using their Apex engine. Now don't get me wrong, Avalanche are a decent developer. But I've never considered their games AAA, definitely a far cry from ID in terms of quality. On top of that their last release, Just Cause 4 (their leading IP) was universally panned. Most people consider it a downgrade from JC3. It was riddled with bugs and mediocre repetitive gameplay. It was only announced about a year before it's release. Avalanche just released Just Cause 4, and they've been working on another online multiplayer shooter which looks like absolute garbage. They're not a big studio by any means so releasing this many games in such a short time span is probably stretching them super thin. All this combined give me the feeling that Rage 2 is being rushed out the door quickly and will be pretty buggy. I've got a feeling like this is going to be a re-skinned version of Mad Max. They're basically throwing a bunch of pink and purple colors and adding in some mutants to make it look different. Most of the gameplay i've seen has been outdoors, most outdoor games nowadays are following the Ubisoft path of simply littering the map with icons and menial tasks to artificially extend game play. Given Avalanche's track record they'll probably do the same thing here. So yeah, my interest in this has basically plummeted. Add in the "Games as a Service" BS, loot boxes etc... I'm expecting this to be utter crap. Hopefully I'm wrong, I'll reserve my final judgement after it's actually released, but for now my expectations are abysmally low.

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#3
Posted 02/20/2019 07:09 PM   
I'm definitely not a fan of the Games as a Service approach. I much prefer the pay once and your done model :P Stretching the DLCs and gameplay out over a few years just downright sucks imo. I'm hoping that the base game is decent/rewarding enough to warrant buying this, if not, maybe in 4-5 years at a huge discount that includes everything. Look at Ghost Recon Wildlands, Year 1 Pass, Year 2 Pass and soon likely to be Year 3 Pass. BTW, the last update for Year 2 Pass is dropping on the 27th https://steamcommunity.com/games/460930/announcements/detail/2656465070694609048 BTW, NewEgg has Rage 2 (standard edition) for $45 atm https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832136239
I'm definitely not a fan of the Games as a Service approach. I much prefer the pay once and your done model :P


Stretching the DLCs and gameplay out over a few years just downright sucks imo.


I'm hoping that the base game is decent/rewarding enough to warrant buying this, if not, maybe in 4-5 years at a huge discount that includes everything.

Look at Ghost Recon Wildlands, Year 1 Pass, Year 2 Pass and soon likely to be Year 3 Pass. BTW, the last update for Year 2 Pass is dropping on the 27th

https://steamcommunity.com/games/460930/announcements/detail/2656465070694609048


BTW, NewEgg has Rage 2 (standard edition) for $45 atm https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832136239

#4
Posted 02/20/2019 08:00 PM   
I have to agree with D-Man11 this software as service just s**ks. At this point with close to 2000 games in my steam library just wait 6 months to a year a pay a fraction of the price. No more software as service no more games with loot boxes enough is enough.
I have to agree with D-Man11 this software as service just s**ks.

At this point with close to 2000 games in my steam library just wait 6 months to a year a pay a fraction of the price.

No more software as service no more games with loot boxes enough is enough.

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#5
Posted 02/20/2019 09:08 PM   
Another horrible thing is Creation Club in Skyrim, the prices are stupid. Some things are as much as the DLC used to cost. WTF Of course, it's all optional unneeded stuff for the most part. But it's a bad direction for developers to be pocketing mod cash. _____________________________________________________________________________________________________ https://creationclub.bethesda.net/en Is Creation Club paid mods? No. Mods will remain a free and open system where anyone can create and share what they’d like. Also, we won’t allow any existing mods to be retrofitted into Creation Club, it must all be original content. Most of the Creation Club content is created internally, some with external partners who have worked on our games, and some by external Creators. All the content is approved, curated, and taken through the full internal dev cycle; including localization, polishing, and testing. This also guarantees that all content works together. We’ve looked at many ways to do “paid mods”, and the problems outweigh the benefits. We’ve encountered many of those issues before. But, there’s a constant demand from our fans to add more official high quality content to our games, and while we are able to create a lot of it, we think many in our community have the talent to work directly with us and create some amazing new things. ___________________________________________________________________________________________________ Thank god for Nexus, but if all Skyrim mods were moved to Creation Club their overall game sales would have been shit, because at their creation store prices, the game would cost about $1000.00 fully modded. And Lord knows, this game is somewhat sucky until you mod the bejebus out of it.
Another horrible thing is Creation Club in Skyrim, the prices are stupid. Some things are as much as the DLC used to cost. WTF

Of course, it's all optional unneeded stuff for the most part. But it's a bad direction for developers to be pocketing mod cash.

_____________________________________________________________________________________________________

https://creationclub.bethesda.net/en



Is Creation Club paid mods?

No. Mods will remain a free and open system where anyone can create and share what they’d like. Also, we won’t allow any existing mods to be retrofitted into Creation Club, it must all be original content. Most of the Creation Club content is created internally, some with external partners who have worked on our games, and some by external Creators. All the content is approved, curated, and taken through the full internal dev cycle; including localization, polishing, and testing. This also guarantees that all content works together. We’ve looked at many ways to do “paid mods”, and the problems outweigh the benefits. We’ve encountered many of those issues before. But, there’s a constant demand from our fans to add more official high quality content to our games, and while we are able to create a lot of it, we think many in our community have the talent to work directly with us and create some amazing new things.
___________________________________________________________________________________________________

Thank god for Nexus, but if all Skyrim mods were moved to Creation Club their overall game sales would have been shit, because at their creation store prices, the game would cost about $1000.00 fully modded. And Lord knows, this game is somewhat sucky until you mod the bejebus out of it.

#6
Posted 02/21/2019 09:36 AM   
Interesting... Amazon lists placeholder Bethesda Softworks title for PS4, Xbox One, and PC https://gematsu.com/2019/02/amazon-lists-placeholder-bethesda-softworks-title-for-ps4-xbox-one-and-pc The page has since been removed
Interesting...

Amazon lists placeholder Bethesda Softworks title for PS4, Xbox One, and PC

https://gematsu.com/2019/02/amazon-lists-placeholder-bethesda-softworks-title-for-ps4-xbox-one-and-pc


The page has since been removed

#7
Posted 02/24/2019 08:28 PM   
It is in the Steam store, anyone looked at it regarding 3d vision?
It is in the Steam store, anyone looked at it regarding 3d vision?

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#8
Posted 05/14/2019 03:24 PM   
[quote="masterotaku"]Rage 2 uses Vulkan[/quote] Well that sucks, no options for 3D then :( Anyhow... It seems that Bethesda is going all in on microtransactions after their success in the first week of early access with Skyrim Blades. Though they are not truly needed in Rage 2 to play the game, there seems to be a lot of them from what I've seen in the Steam Discussions. https://wccftech.com/the-elder-scrolls-blades-gets-1-million-downloads-in-first-week-of-early-access-on-ios/ To purchase your Rage coins, see this link https://store.steampowered.com/app/1067980/RAGE_2__RAGE_Coins/ Note: They can also be earned in-game.
masterotaku said:Rage 2 uses Vulkan


Well that sucks, no options for 3D then :(


Anyhow...

It seems that Bethesda is going all in on microtransactions after their success in the first week of early access with Skyrim Blades. Though they are not truly needed in Rage 2 to play the game, there seems to be a lot of them from what I've seen in the Steam Discussions.


https://wccftech.com/the-elder-scrolls-blades-gets-1-million-downloads-in-first-week-of-early-access-on-ios/



To purchase your Rage coins, see this link

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1067980/RAGE_2__RAGE_Coins/


Note: They can also be earned in-game.

#9
Posted 05/15/2019 12:57 AM   
Thanks for the update, what a shame. I enjoyed the first one. I was really looking forward to playing this in 3d.
Thanks for the update, what a shame. I enjoyed the first one. I was really looking forward to playing this in 3d.

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#10
Posted 05/15/2019 01:28 PM   
[quote="D-Man11"][quote="masterotaku"]Rage 2 uses Vulkan[/quote] Well that sucks, no options for 3D then :( [/quote] Very sad news… Perhaps possible with Tridef or Depth 3D?
D-Man11 said:
masterotaku said:Rage 2 uses Vulkan


Well that sucks, no options for 3D then :(



Very sad news…

Perhaps possible with Tridef or Depth 3D?

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#11
Posted 05/15/2019 02:06 PM   
@chtiblue Tridef or depth 3d don't work with Vulkan it doesn't matter to me regarding this game due to micro transactions I refuse to purchase a game that cost $150 to play.
@chtiblue

Tridef or depth 3d don't work with Vulkan it doesn't matter to me regarding this game due to micro transactions I refuse to purchase a game that cost $150 to play.

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#12
Posted 05/15/2019 02:33 PM   
Arghh we are doomed then :(
Arghh we are doomed then :(

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#13
Posted 05/15/2019 02:36 PM   
[quote="zig11727"]Vulkan it doesn't matter to me regarding this game due to micro transactions I refuse to purchase a game that cost $150 to play. [/quote] Well from what I've read, it is limited to cosmetics only at this time, but it is very dis-tasteful for a game that's not F2P. If they are selling a 35 dollar package, there must be quite a few. Unfortunately, there are a number of developers that see this as their cash ticket to success https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7UX1VoBNwM
zig11727 said:Vulkan it doesn't matter to me regarding this game due to micro transactions I refuse to purchase a game that cost $150 to play.


Well from what I've read, it is limited to cosmetics only at this time, but it is very dis-tasteful for a game that's not F2P. If they are selling a 35 dollar package, there must be quite a few. Unfortunately, there are a number of developers that see this as their cash ticket to success

#14
Posted 05/15/2019 08:31 PM   
I really wanted to play this game in 3d so damn bad!!! I thought they would use the Mad Max engine!
I really wanted to play this game in 3d so damn bad!!!
I thought they would use the Mad Max engine!

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#15
Posted 05/19/2019 07:05 AM   
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