I love using the colorvision spyder. This thing really does what it says. You get perfect calibration. I have so many displays and you get the same balance across all of them. Its great.
I love using the colorvision spyder. This thing really does what it says. You get perfect calibration. I have so many displays and you get the same balance across all of them. Its great.
You'll need to make adjustments for your particular panel. Not every LCD panel (I'm speaking of the LCD panel that's part of the display, not the whole display) will be identical from the line. Give some wiggle room for tolerances. Additionally, not every backlight is going to be exactly the same either, and that can really change your settings. :)
Your particular lighting situation will also have an effect.
So tweak your settings to what looks best for your situation. Just know that the out-of-box settings are relatively poor, but they are [b]entirely[b] correctable.
btw I also have some background with digital imaging, have been working for several magazines, processing images for print - so our monitors were always calibrated by professionals. that ofc doesnt imply that Im able to do that myself. ;) but try out my settings and judge for yourself.. as you mentioned - perception might be quite subjective..[/quote]
You'll need to make adjustments for your particular panel. Not every LCD panel (I'm speaking of the LCD panel that's part of the display, not the whole display) will be identical from the line. Give some wiggle room for tolerances. Additionally, not every backlight is going to be exactly the same either, and that can really change your settings. :)
Your particular lighting situation will also have an effect.
So tweak your settings to what looks best for your situation. Just know that the out-of-box settings are relatively poor, but they are [b]entirely[b] correctable.
I used your settings as a default and came to the following myself:
Brightness: 100
Contrast: 60
Red: 70
Green: 50
Blue: 30
Gamma: Mode2
Sharpness: 24
btw I also have some background with digital imaging, have been working for several magazines, processing images for print - so our monitors were always calibrated by professionals. that ofc doesnt imply that Im able to do that myself. ;) but try out my settings and judge for yourself.. as you mentioned - perception might be quite subjective..
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Your settings are pretty accurate, I used DataColor Spyder3Elite and got similar results in my calibration.
Brightness: 100
Contrast: 64
Red: 73
Green: 59
Blue: 26
Gamma: Mode2 - It gives me better rendering of colors, Mode3 in my case is too dark.
Sharpness: 40 - (i just like it sharp lol)
[quote name='asumikey' post='569035' date='Jul 23 2009, 07:26 AM']Thanks guys, I will try that out today. The reds and oranges are really bothering me right now.
Totally agree. I don't know how on earth they decided that the default settings should be 100/75. 100/100 I could understand and just attribute to laziness/apathy, but here it looks like someone actually decided that 100/75 was a good default setting. Good default for a store maybe so you can catch someone's eye from 100 feet away, but for regular use not so much.[/quote]
I'm not sure if you're talking about 100/75 being the default setting, or the settings the 3D stereo driver forces the 2233RZ to when 3D mode is enabled, but the brightness/contrast values that are forced on the monitor are there to maximize the amount of light going through the 3D glasses. Since the lenses are blacked out half the time due to the shuttering and the glass itself is polarized, something like ~40% of the light is actually getting through to your eyes, so the brighter the monitor in 3D mode, the better.
I know it could be designed better by Nvidia (2D mode customizable monitor settings profile and 3D mode customizable monitor settings profile), but I'm willing to bet they forced the bright settings to minimize the support calls generated and bad impressions people would get of the product if they, without realizing, set the brightness/contrast at normal settings, then switched to 3D mode and said "wow, this product sucks! It's way to dark! I'm never giving 3D a second chance ever again!"
Higher priority issues with the product like making sure it has a ton of game profiles plus a release deadline probably made it a lesser of the two evils situation: Better public reception of the 3D Vision package due to less users accidentally setting their monitor too dark and thinking the product was junk vs a few users complaining about one-size-fits-all brightness/contrast settings forced on the monitor while in 3D mode.
Then again, the product has been out for a while now and it would be nice if they added an option to the advanced settings in the Nvidia control panel to let us customize the brightness/contrast values that would be used in 3D mode. Anyone know if a registry setting will tweak this? /haha.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':haha:' />
[quote name='asumikey' post='569035' date='Jul 23 2009, 07:26 AM']Thanks guys, I will try that out today. The reds and oranges are really bothering me right now.
Totally agree. I don't know how on earth they decided that the default settings should be 100/75. 100/100 I could understand and just attribute to laziness/apathy, but here it looks like someone actually decided that 100/75 was a good default setting. Good default for a store maybe so you can catch someone's eye from 100 feet away, but for regular use not so much.
I'm not sure if you're talking about 100/75 being the default setting, or the settings the 3D stereo driver forces the 2233RZ to when 3D mode is enabled, but the brightness/contrast values that are forced on the monitor are there to maximize the amount of light going through the 3D glasses. Since the lenses are blacked out half the time due to the shuttering and the glass itself is polarized, something like ~40% of the light is actually getting through to your eyes, so the brighter the monitor in 3D mode, the better.
I know it could be designed better by Nvidia (2D mode customizable monitor settings profile and 3D mode customizable monitor settings profile), but I'm willing to bet they forced the bright settings to minimize the support calls generated and bad impressions people would get of the product if they, without realizing, set the brightness/contrast at normal settings, then switched to 3D mode and said "wow, this product sucks! It's way to dark! I'm never giving 3D a second chance ever again!"
Higher priority issues with the product like making sure it has a ton of game profiles plus a release deadline probably made it a lesser of the two evils situation: Better public reception of the 3D Vision package due to less users accidentally setting their monitor too dark and thinking the product was junk vs a few users complaining about one-size-fits-all brightness/contrast settings forced on the monitor while in 3D mode.
Then again, the product has been out for a while now and it would be nice if they added an option to the advanced settings in the Nvidia control panel to let us customize the brightness/contrast values that would be used in 3D mode. Anyone know if a registry setting will tweak this? /haha.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':haha:' />
Your particular lighting situation will also have an effect.
So tweak your settings to what looks best for your situation. Just know that the out-of-box settings are relatively poor, but they are [b]entirely[b] correctable.
Amorphous
[quote name='Skabais' post='567550' date='Jul 20 2009, 04:31 AM']hi!
ty for a good guide.
I used your settings as a default and came to the following myself:
Brightness: 100
Contrast: 60
Red: 70
Green: 50
Blue: 30
Gamma: Mode2
Sharpness: 24
btw I also have some background with digital imaging, have been working for several magazines, processing images for print - so our monitors were always calibrated by professionals. that ofc doesnt imply that Im able to do that myself. ;) but try out my settings and judge for yourself.. as you mentioned - perception might be quite subjective..[/quote]
Your particular lighting situation will also have an effect.
So tweak your settings to what looks best for your situation. Just know that the out-of-box settings are relatively poor, but they are [b]entirely[b] correctable.
Amorphous
[quote name='Skabais' post='567550' date='Jul 20 2009, 04:31 AM']hi!
ty for a good guide.
I used your settings as a default and came to the following myself:
Brightness: 100
Contrast: 60
Red: 70
Green: 50
Blue: 30
Gamma: Mode2
Sharpness: 24
btw I also have some background with digital imaging, have been working for several magazines, processing images for print - so our monitors were always calibrated by professionals. that ofc doesnt imply that Im able to do that myself. ;) but try out my settings and judge for yourself.. as you mentioned - perception might be quite subjective..
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Your settings are pretty accurate, I used DataColor Spyder3Elite and got similar results in my calibration.
Brightness: 100
Contrast: 64
Red: 73
Green: 59
Blue: 26
Gamma: Mode2 - It gives me better rendering of colors, Mode3 in my case is too dark.
Sharpness: 40 - (i just like it sharp lol)
Your settings are pretty accurate, I used DataColor Spyder3Elite and got similar results in my calibration.
Brightness: 100
Contrast: 64
Red: 73
Green: 59
Blue: 26
Gamma: Mode2 - It gives me better rendering of colors, Mode3 in my case is too dark.
Sharpness: 40 - (i just like it sharp lol)
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Totally agree. I don't know how on earth they decided that the default settings should be 100/75. 100/100 I could understand and just attribute to laziness/apathy, but here it looks like someone actually decided that 100/75 was a good default setting. Good default for a store maybe so you can catch someone's eye from 100 feet away, but for regular use not so much.[/quote]
I'm not sure if you're talking about 100/75 being the default setting, or the settings the 3D stereo driver forces the 2233RZ to when 3D mode is enabled, but the brightness/contrast values that are forced on the monitor are there to maximize the amount of light going through the 3D glasses. Since the lenses are blacked out half the time due to the shuttering and the glass itself is polarized, something like ~40% of the light is actually getting through to your eyes, so the brighter the monitor in 3D mode, the better.
I know it could be designed better by Nvidia (2D mode customizable monitor settings profile and 3D mode customizable monitor settings profile), but I'm willing to bet they forced the bright settings to minimize the support calls generated and bad impressions people would get of the product if they, without realizing, set the brightness/contrast at normal settings, then switched to 3D mode and said "wow, this product sucks! It's way to dark! I'm never giving 3D a second chance ever again!"
Higher priority issues with the product like making sure it has a ton of game profiles plus a release deadline probably made it a lesser of the two evils situation: Better public reception of the 3D Vision package due to less users accidentally setting their monitor too dark and thinking the product was junk vs a few users complaining about one-size-fits-all brightness/contrast settings forced on the monitor while in 3D mode.
Then again, the product has been out for a while now and it would be nice if they added an option to the advanced settings in the Nvidia control panel to let us customize the brightness/contrast values that would be used in 3D mode. Anyone know if a registry setting will tweak this?
Totally agree. I don't know how on earth they decided that the default settings should be 100/75. 100/100 I could understand and just attribute to laziness/apathy, but here it looks like someone actually decided that 100/75 was a good default setting. Good default for a store maybe so you can catch someone's eye from 100 feet away, but for regular use not so much.
I'm not sure if you're talking about 100/75 being the default setting, or the settings the 3D stereo driver forces the 2233RZ to when 3D mode is enabled, but the brightness/contrast values that are forced on the monitor are there to maximize the amount of light going through the 3D glasses. Since the lenses are blacked out half the time due to the shuttering and the glass itself is polarized, something like ~40% of the light is actually getting through to your eyes, so the brighter the monitor in 3D mode, the better.
I know it could be designed better by Nvidia (2D mode customizable monitor settings profile and 3D mode customizable monitor settings profile), but I'm willing to bet they forced the bright settings to minimize the support calls generated and bad impressions people would get of the product if they, without realizing, set the brightness/contrast at normal settings, then switched to 3D mode and said "wow, this product sucks! It's way to dark! I'm never giving 3D a second chance ever again!"
Higher priority issues with the product like making sure it has a ton of game profiles plus a release deadline probably made it a lesser of the two evils situation: Better public reception of the 3D Vision package due to less users accidentally setting their monitor too dark and thinking the product was junk vs a few users complaining about one-size-fits-all brightness/contrast settings forced on the monitor while in 3D mode.
Then again, the product has been out for a while now and it would be nice if they added an option to the advanced settings in the Nvidia control panel to let us customize the brightness/contrast values that would be used in 3D mode. Anyone know if a registry setting will tweak this?