Why there is no WinXP 3D Stereo driver? Is NVIDIA going to release a 3D Stereo driver for WinXP?
  3 / 3    
It's a HUGE mistake of NVIDIA not to release an XP driver, 90% of the worlds computers run xp. We live now, not in the future, I hope the competition will do it.
It's a HUGE mistake of NVIDIA not to release an XP driver, 90% of the worlds computers run xp. We live now, not in the future, I hope the competition will do it.

#31
Posted 03/01/2009 03:30 AM   
If you decide to keep XP, you'll be stuck. Vista isn't an XP upgrade. You want NVIDIA to "upgrade" your PC to 3D stereo but you're not willing to upgrade your OS? Give a little, get a LOT.

Either upgrade your PC or seal it's fate as an XP relic and build a new one that runs vista as well if not better than XP.
If you decide to keep XP, you'll be stuck. Vista isn't an XP upgrade. You want NVIDIA to "upgrade" your PC to 3D stereo but you're not willing to upgrade your OS? Give a little, get a LOT.



Either upgrade your PC or seal it's fate as an XP relic and build a new one that runs vista as well if not better than XP.

1x Intel S5000Xvn Mainboard

2x Quad 2.66GHz Xeons (X5355, 8 Cores)

1x EVGA GTX480

8x 2GB FB-DIMM 667 (16GB)

2x 64GB Corsair M4 SSDs in RAID0 (System)

4x 1TB SATA2 64MB Cache Western Digital Black's in RAID0 (Storage)

1x Sound Blaster X-Fi Elite Pro

1x BD-ROM

1x DVD-RW

1x Antec High Current Pro HCP-1200 1200W Power Supply

1x Dell 30" 2560x1600 LCD

1x Samsung 22" 120hz GeForce 3D Vision Display

1x APC 1500VAC SmartUPS Battery Backup

1x Windows 7 Professional 64-Bit

#32
Posted 03/01/2009 03:32 AM   
[quote name='iondrive' post='511946' date='Mar 1 2009, 09:22 AM']back to helping e-ghost...

I just tried the iZ3D driver on my 8800GTS 640 MB card and it works good for some games.
So e-ghost, if you want to play s3d games in winXP, I think you only have 2 options:

2) try the iZ3D driver from [url="http://iz3d.com/t-dcdriver.aspx"]http://iz3d.com/t-dcdriver.aspx[/url]
unfortunately it's only a free trial for something like 60 or 90 days, then it's $50 to buy
a license. You can have both nvidia and iZ3D drivers installed at the same time. Just don't
activate both of them simultaneously. The iZ3D stereo driver control is similar to nvidia's
using hotkeys that you can define. Prince of Persia - Sands of Time and 2 Thrones work
well on my 8800. The newest Prince almost works for me but might work for you on your
9600 card.
Using this driver, you need to turn on the glasses separately with E-D-Activator from
www.edimensional.com/support_updates.php but you might have an eye-swapping problem.
Better yet, use a hardware switch built-in on some $10 cheapies from www.xforce3d.com.
They have a hardware switch to turn on the glasses and a button to swap eye-sync. It's nice
not depending on software for those functions. You have to use a display with an old-style
15-pin connector though.
They also have hardware line-blanking mode and sync-doubling mode as well as page-flipping.

Besides all that, what viewing hardware do you want to use?
I'm guessing that you have shutter glasses that you want to use on a CRT?
Also what games do you have or want to try?

later,
--- iondrive ---[/quote]

Thanks iondrive~ You helped me a lot! I remember that my 9600GSO is actually a rename of 8800GTS 512M with the exact same G92 core. So I guest I still have some lucks to pursue.... /shifty.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':shifty:' />
[url="http://www.gpureview.com/show_cards.php?card1=563&card2=548"]http://www.gpureview.com/show_cards.php?ca...3&card2=548[/url]

The games I want to try.... Well actually there are many of them :">
COD4
GOW2
DMC4
HAWX
The Last Remnant, etc
And also I want to try PS2 games on PC with PCSX2. I start my love on 3D glasses because I got 3D working to play N64 Zelda back in the age of UltraHLE, then psemu. Quite curious to see FF12 in 3D mode~ /whistling.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':whistling:' />

My system is:
E8400 oc
4G RAM
WinXP

Thanks man! So nice to meet you~ /thumbup.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':thumbup:' />
[quote name='iondrive' post='511946' date='Mar 1 2009, 09:22 AM']back to helping e-ghost...



I just tried the iZ3D driver on my 8800GTS 640 MB card and it works good for some games.

So e-ghost, if you want to play s3d games in winXP, I think you only have 2 options:



2) try the iZ3D driver from http://iz3d.com/t-dcdriver.aspx

unfortunately it's only a free trial for something like 60 or 90 days, then it's $50 to buy

a license. You can have both nvidia and iZ3D drivers installed at the same time. Just don't

activate both of them simultaneously. The iZ3D stereo driver control is similar to nvidia's

using hotkeys that you can define. Prince of Persia - Sands of Time and 2 Thrones work

well on my 8800. The newest Prince almost works for me but might work for you on your

9600 card.

Using this driver, you need to turn on the glasses separately with E-D-Activator from

www.edimensional.com/support_updates.php
but you might have an eye-swapping problem.

Better yet, use a hardware switch built-in on some $10 cheapies from www.xforce3d.com.

They have a hardware switch to turn on the glasses and a button to swap eye-sync. It's nice

not depending on software for those functions. You have to use a display with an old-style

15-pin connector though.

They also have hardware line-blanking mode and sync-doubling mode as well as page-flipping.



Besides all that, what viewing hardware do you want to use?

I'm guessing that you have shutter glasses that you want to use on a CRT?

Also what games do you have or want to try?



later,

--- iondrive ---



Thanks iondrive~ You helped me a lot! I remember that my 9600GSO is actually a rename of 8800GTS 512M with the exact same G92 core. So I guest I still have some lucks to pursue.... /shifty.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':shifty:' />

http://www.gpureview.com/show_cards.php?ca...3&card2=548



The games I want to try.... Well actually there are many of them :">

COD4

GOW2

DMC4

HAWX

The Last Remnant, etc

And also I want to try PS2 games on PC with PCSX2. I start my love on 3D glasses because I got 3D working to play N64 Zelda back in the age of UltraHLE, then psemu. Quite curious to see FF12 in 3D mode~ /whistling.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':whistling:' />



My system is:

E8400 oc

4G RAM

WinXP



Thanks man! So nice to meet you~ /thumbup.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':thumbup:' />

#33
Posted 03/11/2009 10:03 AM   
[quote name='e-ghost' post='516720' date='Mar 11 2009, 04:03 AM']Thanks iondrive~ You helped me a lot! I remember that my 9600GSO is actually a rename of 8800GTS 512M with the exact same G92 core. So I guest I still have some lucks to pursue.... /shifty.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':shifty:' />
[url="http://www.gpureview.com/show_cards.php?card1=563&card2=548"]http://www.gpureview.com/show_cards.php?ca...3&card2=548[/url]

The games I want to try.... Well actually there are many of them :">
COD4
GOW2
DMC4
HAWX
The Last Remnant, etc
And also I want to try PS2 games on PC with PCSX2. I start my love on 3D glasses because I got 3D working to play N64 Zelda back in the age of UltraHLE, then psemu. Quite curious to see FF12 in 3D mode~ /whistling.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':whistling:' />

My system is:
E8400 oc
4G RAM
WinXP

Thanks man! So nice to meet you~ /thumbup.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':thumbup:' />[/quote]


You're welcome and if you want to tell me about it, you can start another thread about how to play N64 games in s3d,
but don't make it a priority since I have none of them anyway.

I also was wondering if a PS2 emulator could get PS2 games running on the PC in s3d.

I don't have any of those games you've mentioned so no help there. sorry.

I think the 8800GTS with 512 MB has a different chip than the 8800GTS with 320MB or 640MB. It shouldn't be
that way but I'm pretty sure it is and I think that the nvidia driver will not work for you but it might be worth a try.
If I were you I would try Tombraider Underworld because it works in s3d for me even without nHancer even when
the nvidia 3d logo test has big artifacts. Use antialiasing x4 or else you'll have weird dark shapes with no antialiasing.
If you're feeling brave, you can try reinstalling the nvidia drivers as a 8800GTX but I can't really promise that it won't
burn out your card. I have no idea how risky this idea is so try it only if you're about to get rid of the card for a new one.
It might not be risky at all. I really don't know. I only know it worked for me when I wanted to use older drivers with a
newer card. I installed a GeForce4 card using GeForce2 drivers and it worked. I'll tell you how to do it if you want to try.
It uses the "have disk" method of choosing which driver to install.

Good luck.

oh yeah, in addition to nvidia and iZ3D, there's DDD.com which sells interlacing drivers at $5 per game. Google for more info.
I haven't and probably won't try them. I don't like that selling strategy.
[quote name='e-ghost' post='516720' date='Mar 11 2009, 04:03 AM']Thanks iondrive~ You helped me a lot! I remember that my 9600GSO is actually a rename of 8800GTS 512M with the exact same G92 core. So I guest I still have some lucks to pursue.... /shifty.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':shifty:' />

http://www.gpureview.com/show_cards.php?ca...3&card2=548



The games I want to try.... Well actually there are many of them :">

COD4

GOW2

DMC4

HAWX

The Last Remnant, etc

And also I want to try PS2 games on PC with PCSX2. I start my love on 3D glasses because I got 3D working to play N64 Zelda back in the age of UltraHLE, then psemu. Quite curious to see FF12 in 3D mode~ /whistling.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':whistling:' />



My system is:

E8400 oc

4G RAM

WinXP



Thanks man! So nice to meet you~ /thumbup.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':thumbup:' />





You're welcome and if you want to tell me about it, you can start another thread about how to play N64 games in s3d,

but don't make it a priority since I have none of them anyway.



I also was wondering if a PS2 emulator could get PS2 games running on the PC in s3d.



I don't have any of those games you've mentioned so no help there. sorry.



I think the 8800GTS with 512 MB has a different chip than the 8800GTS with 320MB or 640MB. It shouldn't be

that way but I'm pretty sure it is and I think that the nvidia driver will not work for you but it might be worth a try.

If I were you I would try Tombraider Underworld because it works in s3d for me even without nHancer even when

the nvidia 3d logo test has big artifacts. Use antialiasing x4 or else you'll have weird dark shapes with no antialiasing.

If you're feeling brave, you can try reinstalling the nvidia drivers as a 8800GTX but I can't really promise that it won't

burn out your card. I have no idea how risky this idea is so try it only if you're about to get rid of the card for a new one.

It might not be risky at all. I really don't know. I only know it worked for me when I wanted to use older drivers with a

newer card. I installed a GeForce4 card using GeForce2 drivers and it worked. I'll tell you how to do it if you want to try.

It uses the "have disk" method of choosing which driver to install.



Good luck.



oh yeah, in addition to nvidia and iZ3D, there's DDD.com which sells interlacing drivers at $5 per game. Google for more info.

I haven't and probably won't try them. I don't like that selling strategy.

#34
Posted 03/21/2009 06:43 AM   
i am more curious about how to make n64 games work in S3D :P
i am more curious about how to make n64 games work in S3D :P

#35
Posted 03/21/2009 03:24 PM   
I actually think that supporting the most current OS is a good decision. It cuts driver release schedules in half, if not more, because you have a single target OS to code for and allows them to focus their efforts. Otherwise they would be bouncing back and forth to test in Vista, fix an issue, then test in XP. I would much rather have a mature Vista 3D Driver than a mediocre XP/Vista driver.
I actually think that supporting the most current OS is a good decision. It cuts driver release schedules in half, if not more, because you have a single target OS to code for and allows them to focus their efforts. Otherwise they would be bouncing back and forth to test in Vista, fix an issue, then test in XP. I would much rather have a mature Vista 3D Driver than a mediocre XP/Vista driver.

#36
Posted 03/21/2009 08:00 PM   
[quote name='johnoliver' post='521066' date='Mar 21 2009, 09:24 AM']i am more curious about how to make n64 games work in S3D :P[/quote]

I accidentally found myself with an N64 emulator and wound up playing an N64 version of Castlevania in s3d on my PC yesterday.
It was pretty cool but sometimes the environment had some cracks in the textures or places where part of the floor or something
had a different depth.

Bottom line:
Reseacrh/get/install a program called Project64 (it's actually a collection of programs that is packaged and works together).
Get a rom image of a game you already own so that it's legal for you to have and use it.
Run the program, load the rom, play, Alt-Enter to switch to full-screen, toggle s3d on.
Some default keys: Enter, Z,X,C, S,D, arrows, home/end/delete/page-down...

Hopefully, that's it but there are options as always. There's a DX8 or DX6 option but DX8 works better for me although sound
is always scratchy. The program is said to be for winXP but I ran it on win98 (1800 AMD CPU) with a geforce 4 card and your
target framerate is 60 fps which you can see in windowed mode after you hit alt-enter. Other options cause serious slowdowns
in the emulation. Read the documentation from the program's help menu for too much info. Basically it sys to not play around
with the advanced options because things are pretty much optimized for each game already.

I thought I saw an OpenGL option somewhere too but maybe that was for a different emulator. There are other N64 emulators
that I haven't and probably won't spend time on trying.

This opens up alot of new games that can be played in s3d and it really deserves a new thread with people that can test out all
of the different games available in s3d. That would be a great service to the s3d community but I'm going to just stick with the
old conventional PC games. That's enough for me.

oh yeah, I'm really glad that I could use the "screen-depth" (front-plane) controls (default Ctl-F10 / Ctl-F9 to increase/decrease)
to fix the on-screen-data from 3d to 2d. That helped alot. Everyone should know about those controls if they're trying to play
older games where they actually work. The LaserSight was almost perfectly auto-ranging too although it's not needed in this game.

Good luck and may your games be with you. B)
[quote name='johnoliver' post='521066' date='Mar 21 2009, 09:24 AM']i am more curious about how to make n64 games work in S3D :P



I accidentally found myself with an N64 emulator and wound up playing an N64 version of Castlevania in s3d on my PC yesterday.

It was pretty cool but sometimes the environment had some cracks in the textures or places where part of the floor or something

had a different depth.



Bottom line:

Reseacrh/get/install a program called Project64 (it's actually a collection of programs that is packaged and works together).

Get a rom image of a game you already own so that it's legal for you to have and use it.

Run the program, load the rom, play, Alt-Enter to switch to full-screen, toggle s3d on.

Some default keys: Enter, Z,X,C, S,D, arrows, home/end/delete/page-down...



Hopefully, that's it but there are options as always. There's a DX8 or DX6 option but DX8 works better for me although sound

is always scratchy. The program is said to be for winXP but I ran it on win98 (1800 AMD CPU) with a geforce 4 card and your

target framerate is 60 fps which you can see in windowed mode after you hit alt-enter. Other options cause serious slowdowns

in the emulation. Read the documentation from the program's help menu for too much info. Basically it sys to not play around

with the advanced options because things are pretty much optimized for each game already.



I thought I saw an OpenGL option somewhere too but maybe that was for a different emulator. There are other N64 emulators

that I haven't and probably won't spend time on trying.



This opens up alot of new games that can be played in s3d and it really deserves a new thread with people that can test out all

of the different games available in s3d. That would be a great service to the s3d community but I'm going to just stick with the

old conventional PC games. That's enough for me.



oh yeah, I'm really glad that I could use the "screen-depth" (front-plane) controls (default Ctl-F10 / Ctl-F9 to increase/decrease)

to fix the on-screen-data from 3d to 2d. That helped alot. Everyone should know about those controls if they're trying to play

older games where they actually work. The LaserSight was almost perfectly auto-ranging too although it's not needed in this game.



Good luck and may your games be with you. B)

#37
Posted 03/22/2009 05:45 PM   
I don't see what the big deal about dual booting is. Its a good excuse to keep a "clean" boot for gaming. And if you make a third drive and dedicate it to games, you can usually even just have one install of a game. For Steam its even simpler. If I keep my Steam cache on a 3rd drive, whether I update it in XP or Vista (or Win7), it updates for all. To take that one step further, I can then copy that cache with SyncBackSE to any other machine on my network.
I don't see what the big deal about dual booting is. Its a good excuse to keep a "clean" boot for gaming. And if you make a third drive and dedicate it to games, you can usually even just have one install of a game. For Steam its even simpler. If I keep my Steam cache on a 3rd drive, whether I update it in XP or Vista (or Win7), it updates for all. To take that one step further, I can then copy that cache with SyncBackSE to any other machine on my network.

#38
Posted 03/25/2009 04:00 PM   
[quote name='iondrive' post='521474' date='Mar 22 2009, 09:45 AM']I accidentally found myself with an N64 emulator and wound up playing an N64 version of Castlevania in s3d on my PC yesterday.
It was pretty cool but sometimes the environment had some cracks in the textures or places where part of the floor or something
had a different depth.

Bottom line:
Reseacrh/get/install a program called Project64 (it's actually a collection of programs that is packaged and works together).
Get a rom image of a game you already own so that it's legal for you to have and use it.
Run the program, load the rom, play, Alt-Enter to switch to full-screen, toggle s3d on.
Some default keys: Enter, Z,X,C, S,D, arrows, home/end/delete/page-down...

Hopefully, that's it but there are options as always. There's a DX8 or DX6 option but DX8 works better for me although sound
is always scratchy. The program is said to be for winXP but I ran it on win98 (1800 AMD CPU) with a geforce 4 card and your
target framerate is 60 fps which you can see in windowed mode after you hit alt-enter. Other options cause serious slowdowns
in the emulation. Read the documentation from the program's help menu for too much info. Basically it sys to not play around
with the advanced options because things are pretty much optimized for each game already.

I thought I saw an OpenGL option somewhere too but maybe that was for a different emulator. There are other N64 emulators
that I haven't and probably won't spend time on trying.

This opens up alot of new games that can be played in s3d and it really deserves a new thread with people that can test out all
of the different games available in s3d. That would be a great service to the s3d community but I'm going to just stick with the
old conventional PC games. That's enough for me.

oh yeah, I'm really glad that I could use the "screen-depth" (front-plane) controls (default Ctl-F10 / Ctl-F9 to increase/decrease)
to fix the on-screen-data from 3d to 2d. That helped alot. Everyone should know about those controls if they're trying to play
older games where they actually work. The LaserSight was almost perfectly auto-ranging too although it's not needed in this game.

Good luck and may your games be with you. B)[/quote]

Hi,

I just tried project 64 with Zelda, but everything looks kinda of flat. I will try Castelvania tonight and report back, thanks again :)
[quote name='iondrive' post='521474' date='Mar 22 2009, 09:45 AM']I accidentally found myself with an N64 emulator and wound up playing an N64 version of Castlevania in s3d on my PC yesterday.

It was pretty cool but sometimes the environment had some cracks in the textures or places where part of the floor or something

had a different depth.



Bottom line:

Reseacrh/get/install a program called Project64 (it's actually a collection of programs that is packaged and works together).

Get a rom image of a game you already own so that it's legal for you to have and use it.

Run the program, load the rom, play, Alt-Enter to switch to full-screen, toggle s3d on.

Some default keys: Enter, Z,X,C, S,D, arrows, home/end/delete/page-down...



Hopefully, that's it but there are options as always. There's a DX8 or DX6 option but DX8 works better for me although sound

is always scratchy. The program is said to be for winXP but I ran it on win98 (1800 AMD CPU) with a geforce 4 card and your

target framerate is 60 fps which you can see in windowed mode after you hit alt-enter. Other options cause serious slowdowns

in the emulation. Read the documentation from the program's help menu for too much info. Basically it sys to not play around

with the advanced options because things are pretty much optimized for each game already.



I thought I saw an OpenGL option somewhere too but maybe that was for a different emulator. There are other N64 emulators

that I haven't and probably won't spend time on trying.



This opens up alot of new games that can be played in s3d and it really deserves a new thread with people that can test out all

of the different games available in s3d. That would be a great service to the s3d community but I'm going to just stick with the

old conventional PC games. That's enough for me.



oh yeah, I'm really glad that I could use the "screen-depth" (front-plane) controls (default Ctl-F10 / Ctl-F9 to increase/decrease)

to fix the on-screen-data from 3d to 2d. That helped alot. Everyone should know about those controls if they're trying to play

older games where they actually work. The LaserSight was almost perfectly auto-ranging too although it's not needed in this game.



Good luck and may your games be with you. B)



Hi,



I just tried project 64 with Zelda, but everything looks kinda of flat. I will try Castelvania tonight and report back, thanks again :)

#39
Posted 03/25/2009 07:33 PM   
  3 / 3    
Scroll To Top