First off, read these two links
http://3dvision-blog.com/2343-how-to-get-better-quality-stereoscopic-3d-screenshots-with-3d-vision/
http://3dvision-blog.com/5265-making-better-quality-stereo-3d-pns-screenshots-with-3d-vision/
Also know that once you've reached 99 photos in the screenshot folder, no new screenshots are saved. So periodically, move those pics to another folder.
Now that you have an understanding of the 2 available formats(jps/pns), the quality setting and the hot-key options, you'll want to install and use this app to simplify the settings that you desire.
http://helixmod.blogspot.com/2015/10/advanced-3d-vision-configuration.html
For a full explanation of the app by Eincrou, watch his video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8wDMnRFv2c
Now if you want, you can upload and share your stereoscopic screenshots, as well as stereoscopic photos if you have a 3D camera, on Nvidia's site known as 3D Vision Live. You can upload videos as well.
https://www.3dvisionlive.com/
Unfortunately, the site doesn't work with current browsers. Please report this to Nvidia, the more complaints they receive, the better chance that it will be fixed.
The current option, is to save the image to your PC and then view it. Or you can view it in anaglyph (red/cyan)
[quote="d11.thresh"]Ok, try this. Press the last button from the bottom (magnifying glass) and then download the image (save image as...)[/quote]
or you can use an older Mozilla browser
https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/1043114/3d-vision/psa-you-can-still-watch-3dvisionlive-images-with-firefox-31-0/
To upload a screenshot in a thread, check this [url=https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/886744/3d-vision/epic-screenshots/1/]thread[/url] and/or my posts [url=https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/391133/forum-feedback/how-to-attach-thumbnails-on-forum-post-how-/post/4867623/#4867623]here[/url]
[color="orange"]Please take into consideration the thread that you are uploading to, in a lot of cases, you will not want to upload a 100% PNS screenshot to a thread, it can really slow down the loading of the thread, especially if you post numerous photos. [/color]
So where quality counts, 100% is fine. But for simple examples, please use a lower setting. Keep in mind that some people have shitty bandwidth and crappy data caps.
Edit: I know that this is old news to the majority of us, but hopefully this will be useful to new converts, from the 2D gaming world.
Some other useful thread links
Finally an easier way to deal with 3D screenshots ...
https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/540326/3d-vision/finally-an-easier-way-to-deal-with-3d-screenshots-/
Can the "NVIDIA 3D Vision picture viewer" add a "DELETE" function?
https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/766133/
Announcement: Stereo Photo Cropping Tool
https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/959058/
sView: A free and lightweight stereoscopic movie/image viewer
https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/946728/
Can you recommend me a 3D camera for videos and pictures?
https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/913646/
new 3D cameras
https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/1035032/
Also know that once you've reached 99 photos in the screenshot folder, no new screenshots are saved. So periodically, move those pics to another folder.
For a full explanation of the app by Eincrou, watch his video
Now if you want, you can upload and share your stereoscopic screenshots, as well as stereoscopic photos if you have a 3D camera, on Nvidia's site known as 3D Vision Live. You can upload videos as well.
https://www.3dvisionlive.com/
Unfortunately, the site doesn't work with current browsers. Please report this to Nvidia, the more complaints they receive, the better chance that it will be fixed.
The current option, is to save the image to your PC and then view it. Or you can view it in anaglyph (red/cyan)
d11.thresh said:Ok, try this. Press the last button from the bottom (magnifying glass) and then download the image (save image as...)
To upload a screenshot in a thread, check this thread and/or my posts here
Please take into consideration the thread that you are uploading to, in a lot of cases, you will not want to upload a 100% PNS screenshot to a thread, it can really slow down the loading of the thread, especially if you post numerous photos.
So where quality counts, 100% is fine. But for simple examples, please use a lower setting. Keep in mind that some people have shitty bandwidth and crappy data caps.
Edit: I know that this is old news to the majority of us, but hopefully this will be useful to new converts, from the 2D gaming world.
Nice guide D-Man11. This is certainly helpful for beginners.
Just wanted to add that the same features of "Advanced 3D Vision Configuration" tool are also included in "Nvidia 3D Settings" tab of 3D Fix Manager:
[url=http://fixmanager.rentus.de/images/NvidiaSettings.jpg][img]http://fixmanager.rentus.de/images/NvidiaSettings.jpg[/img][/url]
Nice guide D-Man11. This is certainly helpful for beginners.
Just wanted to add that the same features of "Advanced 3D Vision Configuration" tool are also included in "Nvidia 3D Settings" tab of 3D Fix Manager:
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My biggest issue is that my screenshots that I upload here or to Helix blog seem like they've barely got depth to them, whereas I feel like screenshots upped by others don't lack in depth like mine. I'm assuming the depth of my screenshots are determined by the monitor size setting in my registry, which I have set to 18", for a 24" monitor to get 1.5x depth, so I still can't quite understand why. Anyone else got a clue as to why, or what I can do?
My biggest issue is that my screenshots that I upload here or to Helix blog seem like they've barely got depth to them, whereas I feel like screenshots upped by others don't lack in depth like mine. I'm assuming the depth of my screenshots are determined by the monitor size setting in my registry, which I have set to 18", for a 24" monitor to get 1.5x depth, so I still can't quite understand why. Anyone else got a clue as to why, or what I can do?
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[quote="Pauldusler"]Nice guide D-Man11. This is certainly helpful for beginners.[/quote]
Thanks, I just wanted something that I could link to, whenever someone asks. Versus having to type it all out.
Nice to see that feature in your manager :)
(Edit: seeing as how Pauldusler did not provide a link, here it is)
http://helixmod.blogspot.com/2017/05/3d-fix-manager.html
@DJ-RK I've no idea, unless you are perhaps downsampling/upscaling the game? Perhaps this would affect it? Some games due this on their own, using different types of AA. Like WoW would with MXAA. Fallout 4 would switch itself to 1080P on my 1440P monitor even though I selected 1440P, if TXAA was enabled.
The only way to tell if the game is rendering in the selected resolution , that I've found, is to use the Windows 7 Basic desktop. This requires a second monitor of the same size or larger. If the desktop image on the second monitor shrinks, then you know that the game is rendering at a lower resolution than the native resolution of your display. Simply looking at the image of shrunken desktop, will allow you to guesstimate the resolution that's being up-scaled.
I hope they never change this. I also hope that Windows 10 can do the same.
@DJ-RK I've no idea, unless you are perhaps downsampling/upscaling the game? Perhaps this would affect it? Some games due this on their own, using different types of AA. Like WoW would with MXAA. Fallout 4 would switch itself to 1080P on my 1440P monitor even though I selected 1440P, if TXAA was enabled.
The only way to tell if the game is rendering in the selected resolution , that I've found, is to use the Windows 7 Basic desktop. This requires a second monitor of the same size or larger. If the desktop image on the second monitor shrinks, then you know that the game is rendering at a lower resolution than the native resolution of your display. Simply looking at the image of shrunken desktop, will allow you to guesstimate the resolution that's being up-scaled.
I hope they never change this. I also hope that Windows 10 can do the same.
[quote="DJ-RK"]My biggest issue is that my screenshots that I upload here or to Helix blog seem like they've barely got depth to them[/quote]
What? The FFXV screenshots you posted had super high depth for me (my monitor is 27" with an override to make it 24" for 3D). Your depth should be 33% higher than mine. Total depth depends on the screenshot size, of course. It isn't the same if I see it in a window than at fullscreen.
DJ-RK said:My biggest issue is that my screenshots that I upload here or to Helix blog seem like they've barely got depth to them
What? The FFXV screenshots you posted had super high depth for me (my monitor is 27" with an override to make it 24" for 3D). Your depth should be 33% higher than mine. Total depth depends on the screenshot size, of course. It isn't the same if I see it in a window than at fullscreen.
[quote="D-Man11"]Also know that once you've reached 99 photos in the screenshot folder, no new screenshots are saved. So periodically, move those pics to another folder.[/quote]
FIXED!! JPS now save with a exenamennn_qqq.jps format. Exename is whatever the name of the exe file is, nnn is the number you're on, and qqq is the quality level its saved at. So now you can save 999 photos. You'll also be reminded what quality you're using.
[quote]Unfortunately, the site doesn't work with current browsers. Please report this to Nvidia, the more complaints they receive, the better chance that it will be fixed.[/quote]
Works just fine with the latest Internet Explorer, which is included with your operating system. If you want to do uploads, though, you need to make sure Flash is enabled because the site uses that to transfer the files.
If you're having trouble getting 3D to kick in (i.e. you're in 3D Vision mode but the website is just showing a 2D image), I find it often helps to run a quick 3D program to help it along.
Also, there's a limit of 10MB per screenshot. You'll hit that every once in a while if you're taking screenshots at 1920x1080. If you're at higher resolution, you'll need to use JPS (or convert your PNS files to it) before uploading most of the time.
Some more artistic suggestions...
Like 2D screenshots, it's most often best to have your main subject be a little off center. Unfortunately, if you're uploading to 3D Vision Live, your screenshot preview will only have the center square displayed which often results in your main subject getting cut off! Arg. Well, it's a free website.
Depth of Field is a big one that doesn't work so well in 3D. This is a 3D space where your eye expects to be able to focus on whatever it wants so, at least to me, DoF seems more broken than artistic. It's possible that broken feeling will be worth it, though, if the background is really distracting.
Popout is a wonderful thing but be careful with it. If the user interface is being drawn at screen depth over something that's popping out, it looks freaky as your brain tries to interpret what's going on. Clearly the UI is in front of the popping out object because you can see it but triangulation says the UI is behind the object - resulting in... weirdness that you'll never see in the real world.
Even if you get rid of the user interface completely, there's one thing you can't avoid: the monitor edges. These act just like the UI. If the image is cut off by the edge of the screen when it's popping out it looks very wrong - though at least it's off to the edge so hopefully not as noticeable.
(Note to viewers: if a screenshot has this problem you can work around it pretty easy. Just put your hand up and cover the edge of the screen closer to your eye. Now the edge is "popping out" as well and the image looks fine!)
3D tends to look a little better if there's something that smoothly goes from close to far. The ground can often do a good job of that, though I'm afraid that's led to a lot of my free-camera screenshots being taken at knee level. (NieR:Automata gave me an 'achievement' for looking up 2B's skirt so many times. I swear I was just making dramatic shots that kept the ground in the frame! ;)
P.S. WAY past time that I check out sView, thanks for the link!
D-Man11 said:Also know that once you've reached 99 photos in the screenshot folder, no new screenshots are saved. So periodically, move those pics to another folder.
FIXED!! JPS now save with a exenamennn_qqq.jps format. Exename is whatever the name of the exe file is, nnn is the number you're on, and qqq is the quality level its saved at. So now you can save 999 photos. You'll also be reminded what quality you're using.
Unfortunately, the site doesn't work with current browsers. Please report this to Nvidia, the more complaints they receive, the better chance that it will be fixed.
Works just fine with the latest Internet Explorer, which is included with your operating system. If you want to do uploads, though, you need to make sure Flash is enabled because the site uses that to transfer the files.
If you're having trouble getting 3D to kick in (i.e. you're in 3D Vision mode but the website is just showing a 2D image), I find it often helps to run a quick 3D program to help it along.
Also, there's a limit of 10MB per screenshot. You'll hit that every once in a while if you're taking screenshots at 1920x1080. If you're at higher resolution, you'll need to use JPS (or convert your PNS files to it) before uploading most of the time.
Some more artistic suggestions...
Like 2D screenshots, it's most often best to have your main subject be a little off center. Unfortunately, if you're uploading to 3D Vision Live, your screenshot preview will only have the center square displayed which often results in your main subject getting cut off! Arg. Well, it's a free website.
Depth of Field is a big one that doesn't work so well in 3D. This is a 3D space where your eye expects to be able to focus on whatever it wants so, at least to me, DoF seems more broken than artistic. It's possible that broken feeling will be worth it, though, if the background is really distracting.
Popout is a wonderful thing but be careful with it. If the user interface is being drawn at screen depth over something that's popping out, it looks freaky as your brain tries to interpret what's going on. Clearly the UI is in front of the popping out object because you can see it but triangulation says the UI is behind the object - resulting in... weirdness that you'll never see in the real world.
Even if you get rid of the user interface completely, there's one thing you can't avoid: the monitor edges. These act just like the UI. If the image is cut off by the edge of the screen when it's popping out it looks very wrong - though at least it's off to the edge so hopefully not as noticeable.
(Note to viewers: if a screenshot has this problem you can work around it pretty easy. Just put your hand up and cover the edge of the screen closer to your eye. Now the edge is "popping out" as well and the image looks fine!)
3D tends to look a little better if there's something that smoothly goes from close to far. The ground can often do a good job of that, though I'm afraid that's led to a lot of my free-camera screenshots being taken at knee level. (NieR:Automata gave me an 'achievement' for looking up 2B's skirt so many times. I swear I was just making dramatic shots that kept the ground in the frame! ;)
P.S. WAY past time that I check out sView, thanks for the link!
The very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common. Instead of altering their views to fit the facts, they alter the facts to fit their views ... which can be very uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that needs altering.
Nice to know. I had no idea that they fixed the screenshot limit. I never take that many and was in the habit of clearing out the folder periodically.
Thanks for the info.
Definitely a good habit - it's easy to forget why you took a screenshot if you wait too long. ;)
Oh, one other very handy link:
https://www.mtbs3d.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=14969
This is just a simple little program that allows File Explorer to show the image as the file's icon, much like a normal JPG/PNG. You can set it to show side by side or just the left image. It still works fine in Windows 10!
This is just a simple little program that allows File Explorer to show the image as the file's icon, much like a normal JPG/PNG. You can set it to show side by side or just the left image. It still works fine in Windows 10!
The very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common. Instead of altering their views to fit the facts, they alter the facts to fit their views ... which can be very uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that needs altering.
I should also mention...
You can simply drag and drop the jps/pns onto the 3D Vision photo viewer to open it or to swap pics.
I never knew this until a few months ago.
Hey guys
I've just noticed that all my 3D photos for quite some time have been created as .pns and no longer .jps like before. I did not change any settings in the registry, photo type is 0, with 85 quality, like I always used.
These are the settings in the common 3DSettings.bat that someone kindly posted years ago, sorry forgot the guy's name. And Paul's FixManager confirms these settings (type jps, quality 85)
The only change in my setup that might be relevant is that I got my 4K OLED TV in mid last year.
Could this be the cause? Maybe because the EDID somehow gets the registry settings confused?
I would appreciate if anyone with the EDID can check this behaviour. I've just gone from 500KB to 30MB, and with my passion for 3D screenies I'll run out of space pretty soon.
Hey guys
I've just noticed that all my 3D photos for quite some time have been created as .pns and no longer .jps like before. I did not change any settings in the registry, photo type is 0, with 85 quality, like I always used.
These are the settings in the common 3DSettings.bat that someone kindly posted years ago, sorry forgot the guy's name. And Paul's FixManager confirms these settings (type jps, quality 85)
The only change in my setup that might be relevant is that I got my 4K OLED TV in mid last year.
Could this be the cause? Maybe because the EDID somehow gets the registry settings confused?
I would appreciate if anyone with the EDID can check this behaviour. I've just gone from 500KB to 30MB, and with my passion for 3D screenies I'll run out of space pretty soon.
Sorry to come back with this, guys, but I really tried everything I could so far. Except reconnecting my old ASUS 3D monitor to check if the cause is the 4K OLED. But even if this is the cause, changing screens is not a solution for me.
So, can any user of LG 4K OLED check and let me know if they have this behaviour as well? I'm really hoping you guys can output jps and that it's a silly thing at my end (which I still have to find and solve)
If not, and if indeed it's the use of the 4K OLED + EDID, then do you guys have any recommendations on how to easily convert pns to jps? It's an extra step I would have liked to avoid, but it's better than nothing.
Thanks
Sorry to come back with this, guys, but I really tried everything I could so far. Except reconnecting my old ASUS 3D monitor to check if the cause is the 4K OLED. But even if this is the cause, changing screens is not a solution for me.
So, can any user of LG 4K OLED check and let me know if they have this behaviour as well? I'm really hoping you guys can output jps and that it's a silly thing at my end (which I still have to find and solve)
If not, and if indeed it's the use of the 4K OLED + EDID, then do you guys have any recommendations on how to easily convert pns to jps? It's an extra step I would have liked to avoid, but it's better than nothing.
- Rename ".pns" to ".png".
- Convert to ".jpg" at your desired quality.
- Rename to ".jps".
I prefer to save everything in ".pns" quality no matter what. I hate jpg artifacts :p.
30MB is one heck of a lot of space. Uploading them to 3DVisionLive is not going to happen!
I really have trouble believing it's the monitor itself. The video driver is making this thing, it doesn't care what monitor you've got.
Maybe there's something different about your registry. YAre you using 32bit Windows? (I'm not sure that's even possible with a 4K screen!)
Have you tried deleting the StereoImageType key? The default is JPS so no key should result in JPS images.
30MB is one heck of a lot of space. Uploading them to 3DVisionLive is not going to happen!
I really have trouble believing it's the monitor itself. The video driver is making this thing, it doesn't care what monitor you've got.
Maybe there's something different about your registry. YAre you using 32bit Windows? (I'm not sure that's even possible with a 4K screen!)
Have you tried deleting the StereoImageType key? The default is JPS so no key should result in JPS images.
The very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common. Instead of altering their views to fit the facts, they alter the facts to fit their views ... which can be very uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that needs altering.
Yeah, Zloth, screenshots are too big. They occupy a lot of space, but also they take some time to register since there's more data to record. So sometimes the screenshot key does not register, and I miss great shots.
Even worse. I used to love to take screenshots, documenting a game playthrough and watching them months later. This situation made me lose my love for taking pictures and I barely do it in games nowadays.
I'd really like to solve this one. In my previous post I mentioned one annoying extra step (converting the pns to jps). Masterotaku's comments seem to suggest that this would involve three steps (rename, convert, rename) and I don't think this workflow can be automated in one single process.
I was hoping that people with the same setup (Whyme, Lacuna, Rustyk, recently Djgrege I think) might chime in, just to confirm if this issue is present in all 4K OLEDs using EDID override. But I'm really hoping that they don't have this issue, and that it's at my end somehow. The reason I'm suspecting the TV is because these things seem to have started when I bought it and it became my main screen.
As soon as I find some time, I will switch to the old monitor. If it's still happening, then definitely there is something software related. Registries bugged, Win 10 install issues, who knows.
Then I'll start a step by step analysis, just to ensure that it's not one of the regular steps I take when changing drivers.
- starting with DDU and new driver
- not doing the EDID override
- not using the batch file for 3D settings
- not using the eye swap program
but I don't think there's anything else
By the way, if someone can confirm. At step 2 above, the only way to still test 3D vision is only with the use of the pyramid from my kit, right?
Edit
Deleting the stereoimagetype entry in registry does not solve it. Neither does restarting the PC without launching the eyeswap program.
Yeah, Zloth, screenshots are too big. They occupy a lot of space, but also they take some time to register since there's more data to record. So sometimes the screenshot key does not register, and I miss great shots.
Even worse. I used to love to take screenshots, documenting a game playthrough and watching them months later. This situation made me lose my love for taking pictures and I barely do it in games nowadays.
I'd really like to solve this one. In my previous post I mentioned one annoying extra step (converting the pns to jps). Masterotaku's comments seem to suggest that this would involve three steps (rename, convert, rename) and I don't think this workflow can be automated in one single process.
I was hoping that people with the same setup (Whyme, Lacuna, Rustyk, recently Djgrege I think) might chime in, just to confirm if this issue is present in all 4K OLEDs using EDID override. But I'm really hoping that they don't have this issue, and that it's at my end somehow. The reason I'm suspecting the TV is because these things seem to have started when I bought it and it became my main screen.
As soon as I find some time, I will switch to the old monitor. If it's still happening, then definitely there is something software related. Registries bugged, Win 10 install issues, who knows.
Then I'll start a step by step analysis, just to ensure that it's not one of the regular steps I take when changing drivers.
- starting with DDU and new driver
- not doing the EDID override
- not using the batch file for 3D settings
- not using the eye swap program
but I don't think there's anything else
By the way, if someone can confirm. At step 2 above, the only way to still test 3D vision is only with the use of the pyramid from my kit, right?
Edit
Deleting the stereoimagetype entry in registry does not solve it. Neither does restarting the PC without launching the eyeswap program.
Irfanview can batch convert. I don't think it will believe .pns files are really .png but PowerShell or DOS should be able to handle the rename part.
The very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common. Instead of altering their views to fit the facts, they alter the facts to fit their views ... which can be very uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that needs altering.
http://3dvision-blog.com/2343-how-to-get-better-quality-stereoscopic-3d-screenshots-with-3d-vision/
http://3dvision-blog.com/5265-making-better-quality-stereo-3d-pns-screenshots-with-3d-vision/
Also know that once you've reached 99 photos in the screenshot folder, no new screenshots are saved. So periodically, move those pics to another folder.
Now that you have an understanding of the 2 available formats(jps/pns), the quality setting and the hot-key options, you'll want to install and use this app to simplify the settings that you desire.
http://helixmod.blogspot.com/2015/10/advanced-3d-vision-configuration.html
For a full explanation of the app by Eincrou, watch his video
Now if you want, you can upload and share your stereoscopic screenshots, as well as stereoscopic photos if you have a 3D camera, on Nvidia's site known as 3D Vision Live. You can upload videos as well.
https://www.3dvisionlive.com/
Unfortunately, the site doesn't work with current browsers. Please report this to Nvidia, the more complaints they receive, the better chance that it will be fixed.
The current option, is to save the image to your PC and then view it. Or you can view it in anaglyph (red/cyan)
or you can use an older Mozilla browser
https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/1043114/3d-vision/psa-you-can-still-watch-3dvisionlive-images-with-firefox-31-0/
To upload a screenshot in a thread, check this thread and/or my posts here
Please take into consideration the thread that you are uploading to, in a lot of cases, you will not want to upload a 100% PNS screenshot to a thread, it can really slow down the loading of the thread, especially if you post numerous photos.
So where quality counts, 100% is fine. But for simple examples, please use a lower setting. Keep in mind that some people have shitty bandwidth and crappy data caps.
Edit: I know that this is old news to the majority of us, but hopefully this will be useful to new converts, from the 2D gaming world.
Some other useful thread links
Finally an easier way to deal with 3D screenshots ...
https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/540326/3d-vision/finally-an-easier-way-to-deal-with-3d-screenshots-/
Can the "NVIDIA 3D Vision picture viewer" add a "DELETE" function?
https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/766133/
Announcement: Stereo Photo Cropping Tool
https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/959058/
sView: A free and lightweight stereoscopic movie/image viewer
https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/946728/
Can you recommend me a 3D camera for videos and pictures?
https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/913646/
new 3D cameras
https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/1035032/
Just wanted to add that the same features of "Advanced 3D Vision Configuration" tool are also included in "Nvidia 3D Settings" tab of 3D Fix Manager:
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Thanks, I just wanted something that I could link to, whenever someone asks. Versus having to type it all out.
Nice to see that feature in your manager :)
(Edit: seeing as how Pauldusler did not provide a link, here it is)
http://helixmod.blogspot.com/2017/05/3d-fix-manager.html
@DJ-RK I've no idea, unless you are perhaps downsampling/upscaling the game? Perhaps this would affect it? Some games due this on their own, using different types of AA. Like WoW would with MXAA. Fallout 4 would switch itself to 1080P on my 1440P monitor even though I selected 1440P, if TXAA was enabled.
The only way to tell if the game is rendering in the selected resolution , that I've found, is to use the Windows 7 Basic desktop. This requires a second monitor of the same size or larger. If the desktop image on the second monitor shrinks, then you know that the game is rendering at a lower resolution than the native resolution of your display. Simply looking at the image of shrunken desktop, will allow you to guesstimate the resolution that's being up-scaled.
I hope they never change this. I also hope that Windows 10 can do the same.
What? The FFXV screenshots you posted had super high depth for me (my monitor is 27" with an override to make it 24" for 3D). Your depth should be 33% higher than mine. Total depth depends on the screenshot size, of course. It isn't the same if I see it in a window than at fullscreen.
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FIXED!! JPS now save with a exenamennn_qqq.jps format. Exename is whatever the name of the exe file is, nnn is the number you're on, and qqq is the quality level its saved at. So now you can save 999 photos. You'll also be reminded what quality you're using.
Works just fine with the latest Internet Explorer, which is included with your operating system. If you want to do uploads, though, you need to make sure Flash is enabled because the site uses that to transfer the files.
If you're having trouble getting 3D to kick in (i.e. you're in 3D Vision mode but the website is just showing a 2D image), I find it often helps to run a quick 3D program to help it along.
Also, there's a limit of 10MB per screenshot. You'll hit that every once in a while if you're taking screenshots at 1920x1080. If you're at higher resolution, you'll need to use JPS (or convert your PNS files to it) before uploading most of the time.
Some more artistic suggestions...
Like 2D screenshots, it's most often best to have your main subject be a little off center. Unfortunately, if you're uploading to 3D Vision Live, your screenshot preview will only have the center square displayed which often results in your main subject getting cut off! Arg. Well, it's a free website.
Depth of Field is a big one that doesn't work so well in 3D. This is a 3D space where your eye expects to be able to focus on whatever it wants so, at least to me, DoF seems more broken than artistic. It's possible that broken feeling will be worth it, though, if the background is really distracting.
Popout is a wonderful thing but be careful with it. If the user interface is being drawn at screen depth over something that's popping out, it looks freaky as your brain tries to interpret what's going on. Clearly the UI is in front of the popping out object because you can see it but triangulation says the UI is behind the object - resulting in... weirdness that you'll never see in the real world.
Even if you get rid of the user interface completely, there's one thing you can't avoid: the monitor edges. These act just like the UI. If the image is cut off by the edge of the screen when it's popping out it looks very wrong - though at least it's off to the edge so hopefully not as noticeable.
(Note to viewers: if a screenshot has this problem you can work around it pretty easy. Just put your hand up and cover the edge of the screen closer to your eye. Now the edge is "popping out" as well and the image looks fine!)
3D tends to look a little better if there's something that smoothly goes from close to far. The ground can often do a good job of that, though I'm afraid that's led to a lot of my free-camera screenshots being taken at knee level. (NieR:Automata gave me an 'achievement' for looking up 2B's skirt so many times. I swear I was just making dramatic shots that kept the ground in the frame! ;)
P.S. WAY past time that I check out sView, thanks for the link!
The very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common. Instead of altering their views to fit the facts, they alter the facts to fit their views ... which can be very uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that needs altering.
-- Doctor Who, "Face of Evil"
Thanks for the info.
Oh, one other very handy link:
https://www.mtbs3d.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=14969
This is just a simple little program that allows File Explorer to show the image as the file's icon, much like a normal JPG/PNG. You can set it to show side by side or just the left image. It still works fine in Windows 10!
The very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common. Instead of altering their views to fit the facts, they alter the facts to fit their views ... which can be very uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that needs altering.
-- Doctor Who, "Face of Evil"
You can simply drag and drop the jps/pns onto the 3D Vision photo viewer to open it or to swap pics.
I never knew this until a few months ago.
I've just noticed that all my 3D photos for quite some time have been created as .pns and no longer .jps like before. I did not change any settings in the registry, photo type is 0, with 85 quality, like I always used.
These are the settings in the common 3DSettings.bat that someone kindly posted years ago, sorry forgot the guy's name. And Paul's FixManager confirms these settings (type jps, quality 85)
The only change in my setup that might be relevant is that I got my 4K OLED TV in mid last year.
Could this be the cause? Maybe because the EDID somehow gets the registry settings confused?
I would appreciate if anyone with the EDID can check this behaviour. I've just gone from 500KB to 30MB, and with my passion for 3D screenies I'll run out of space pretty soon.
So, can any user of LG 4K OLED check and let me know if they have this behaviour as well? I'm really hoping you guys can output jps and that it's a silly thing at my end (which I still have to find and solve)
If not, and if indeed it's the use of the 4K OLED + EDID, then do you guys have any recommendations on how to easily convert pns to jps? It's an extra step I would have liked to avoid, but it's better than nothing.
Thanks
- Convert to ".jpg" at your desired quality.
- Rename to ".jps".
I prefer to save everything in ".pns" quality no matter what. I hate jpg artifacts :p.
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I really have trouble believing it's the monitor itself. The video driver is making this thing, it doesn't care what monitor you've got.
Maybe there's something different about your registry. YAre you using 32bit Windows? (I'm not sure that's even possible with a 4K screen!)
Have you tried deleting the StereoImageType key? The default is JPS so no key should result in JPS images.
The very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common. Instead of altering their views to fit the facts, they alter the facts to fit their views ... which can be very uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that needs altering.
-- Doctor Who, "Face of Evil"
Even worse. I used to love to take screenshots, documenting a game playthrough and watching them months later. This situation made me lose my love for taking pictures and I barely do it in games nowadays.
I'd really like to solve this one. In my previous post I mentioned one annoying extra step (converting the pns to jps). Masterotaku's comments seem to suggest that this would involve three steps (rename, convert, rename) and I don't think this workflow can be automated in one single process.
I was hoping that people with the same setup (Whyme, Lacuna, Rustyk, recently Djgrege I think) might chime in, just to confirm if this issue is present in all 4K OLEDs using EDID override. But I'm really hoping that they don't have this issue, and that it's at my end somehow. The reason I'm suspecting the TV is because these things seem to have started when I bought it and it became my main screen.
As soon as I find some time, I will switch to the old monitor. If it's still happening, then definitely there is something software related. Registries bugged, Win 10 install issues, who knows.
Then I'll start a step by step analysis, just to ensure that it's not one of the regular steps I take when changing drivers.
- starting with DDU and new driver
- not doing the EDID override
- not using the batch file for 3D settings
- not using the eye swap program
but I don't think there's anything else
By the way, if someone can confirm. At step 2 above, the only way to still test 3D vision is only with the use of the pyramid from my kit, right?
Edit
Deleting the stereoimagetype entry in registry does not solve it. Neither does restarting the PC without launching the eyeswap program.
The very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common. Instead of altering their views to fit the facts, they alter the facts to fit their views ... which can be very uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that needs altering.
-- Doctor Who, "Face of Evil"