16bit input lag decrease in1080p24
This is for those who sometimes find 1080p24 95% usable or usable. I noticed that turning the color depth down to 16bit increased the playability in Fallout 3 from horrendous and disappointing to totally playable. I ended up turning down the mouse sensitivity a tiny bit too and that helped give a very natural feel to the mouse movement.

What i still don't know is am i missing any significant part of the color gamut using 16bit over 32bit.

PS, no, i can't edit the thread title, i tried...lol
This is for those who sometimes find 1080p24 95% usable or usable. I noticed that turning the color depth down to 16bit increased the playability in Fallout 3 from horrendous and disappointing to totally playable. I ended up turning down the mouse sensitivity a tiny bit too and that helped give a very natural feel to the mouse movement.



What i still don't know is am i missing any significant part of the color gamut using 16bit over 32bit.



PS, no, i can't edit the thread title, i tried...lol

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#1
Posted 06/25/2011 05:08 AM   
blue led + colorfilter = colorgamut mate ? /haha.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':haha:' /> Why I dont see that in marketing pamphlets yet ??? /haha.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':haha:' />


BTW , 3dfx voodoo used dithered 16bit , they say banding was obvious here and there ( on CRT....!!!) or so I heard, must be content related, good compromise with LCD I say. Cause Its washed out and has spoiled spectra anyway.

Good idea I'll try this with DLP if its faster and stuff.
blue led + colorfilter = colorgamut mate ? /haha.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':haha:' /> Why I dont see that in marketing pamphlets yet ??? /haha.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':haha:' />





BTW , 3dfx voodoo used dithered 16bit , they say banding was obvious here and there ( on CRT....!!!) or so I heard, must be content related, good compromise with LCD I say. Cause Its washed out and has spoiled spectra anyway.



Good idea I'll try this with DLP if its faster and stuff.

#2
Posted 06/25/2011 05:23 AM   
I just loaded up Metro 2033 in 1080p24, didn't notice any loss of colors or banding. There was new geometry in an area i test in frequently though, that was a surprise....
I just loaded up Metro 2033 in 1080p24, didn't notice any loss of colors or banding. There was new geometry in an area i test in frequently though, that was a surprise....

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#3
Posted 06/25/2011 05:52 AM   
[quote name='Libertine' date='25 June 2011 - 06:52 AM' timestamp='1308981157' post='1256288']
I just loaded up Metro 2033 in 1080p24, didn't notice any loss of colors or banding. There was new geometry in an area i test in frequently though, that was a surprise....
[/quote]

is it any faster ??? Maybe that sucker revertede back somehow to 32 bit, so it can't be helped with extra fps.
[quote name='Libertine' date='25 June 2011 - 06:52 AM' timestamp='1308981157' post='1256288']

I just loaded up Metro 2033 in 1080p24, didn't notice any loss of colors or banding. There was new geometry in an area i test in frequently though, that was a surprise....





is it any faster ??? Maybe that sucker revertede back somehow to 32 bit, so it can't be helped with extra fps.

#4
Posted 06/25/2011 05:55 AM   
[quote name='tritosine2k' date='24 June 2011 - 10:55 PM' timestamp='1308981337' post='1256289']
is it any faster ??? Maybe that sucker revertede back somehow to 32 bit, so it can't be helped with extra fps.
[/quote]

Not sure, ill test it out tomorrow.
[quote name='tritosine2k' date='24 June 2011 - 10:55 PM' timestamp='1308981337' post='1256289']

is it any faster ??? Maybe that sucker revertede back somehow to 32 bit, so it can't be helped with extra fps.





Not sure, ill test it out tomorrow.

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#5
Posted 06/25/2011 06:20 AM   
reading more on the 3DFX dithered format, so cool ,
http://www.beyond3d.com/content/articles/59/

[quote]16-bit color shows its weakness when a smooth color gradient is needed. These gradients are especially present in the sky textures and in the textures used for special effects (such as a transparent explosion). 16-bit color mode doesn't have enough shades to show this smoothly, so ugly banding effects appear. When a texture contains noise, or is rather random and without smooth color gradients, the difference between 16 and 32-bit becomes almost indistinguishable.[/quote]
reading more on the 3DFX dithered format, so cool ,

http://www.beyond3d.com/content/articles/59/



16-bit color shows its weakness when a smooth color gradient is needed. These gradients are especially present in the sky textures and in the textures used for special effects (such as a transparent explosion). 16-bit color mode doesn't have enough shades to show this smoothly, so ugly banding effects appear. When a texture contains noise, or is rather random and without smooth color gradients, the difference between 16 and 32-bit becomes almost indistinguishable.

#6
Posted 06/25/2011 06:27 AM   
once for fun I tried this, told a guy with sennheisor 600 headphones & good ears , to send me an mp3 he wants to try, turned it into .WAV , & sent him back two .WAV files,

a 16bit 44khz, &

a 8 bit 88.2 khz + dither


he couldn't tell the difference.


Too bad sound accelerators got nowhere.
once for fun I tried this, told a guy with sennheisor 600 headphones & good ears , to send me an mp3 he wants to try, turned it into .WAV , & sent him back two .WAV files,



a 16bit 44khz, &



a 8 bit 88.2 khz + dither





he couldn't tell the difference.





Too bad sound accelerators got nowhere.

#7
Posted 06/25/2011 06:45 AM   
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