Panasonic TC-P50VT25 3D TV Any way to get 3D Vision software to work with this TV?
I finally got a Panasonic TC-P50VT25 3D TV only to discover that I didn't do my homework. The 3D Vision kit I purchased doesn't appear to work, and it seems I have to wait for 3DTVPlay to release. I keep wondering if there is a way to get a version of the 3D vision software that isn't locked to allow for the 3D conversion of the software? Because if I send a 3D signal from the computer, I can view it in 3D on the TV like the Nvidia demo disc for example, I just can't figure out how to get the 3D Vision Software to send the 3D signal. If anyone has any ideas I'd love to hear them. Getting a 3D TV and 2 GTX 480s and not be able to see 3D is a little depressing!
I finally got a Panasonic TC-P50VT25 3D TV only to discover that I didn't do my homework. The 3D Vision kit I purchased doesn't appear to work, and it seems I have to wait for 3DTVPlay to release. I keep wondering if there is a way to get a version of the 3D vision software that isn't locked to allow for the 3D conversion of the software? Because if I send a 3D signal from the computer, I can view it in 3D on the TV like the Nvidia demo disc for example, I just can't figure out how to get the 3D Vision Software to send the 3D signal. If anyone has any ideas I'd love to hear them. Getting a 3D TV and 2 GTX 480s and not be able to see 3D is a little depressing!
As far as I know you'll need to connect the IR sender to the TV instead of the PC in case of a generic 3D DLP TV. But your model is officially unsupported at the moment. Does your TV have a VESA port for this?
As far as I know you'll need to connect the IR sender to the TV instead of the PC in case of a generic 3D DLP TV. But your model is officially unsupported at the moment. Does your TV have a VESA port for this?
Hi
At the moment there is no way to use the nvidia 3D vision glasses and we do not know if nvidia will ever find a way to make them work with this TV.
Nvidia 3DTV play is designed to allow the use the TV's own brand of glasses whatever glass type the TV might be compatible with.
It is highly probably that when Nvidia 3DTV play ships you'll have to use tha panasonic brand of 3D glasses.
In the mean time, there is still a way to make 3D work with this TV right now.
For movies you'll need the full version of Stereoscopic player (the one from www.3dtv.at)
For games you'll have to use 3rd party stereoscopic 3D drivers from iZ3D.
In both these programs, you'll have to configure tham to output 3D in side by side mode, and then manually activate side by side 3D inputs in the TV menus.
If you have Avatar, the game : this game does not need 3D drivers, it can produce side by side outputs 3D internally.
At the moment there is no way to use the nvidia 3D vision glasses and we do not know if nvidia will ever find a way to make them work with this TV.
Nvidia 3DTV play is designed to allow the use the TV's own brand of glasses whatever glass type the TV might be compatible with.
It is highly probably that when Nvidia 3DTV play ships you'll have to use tha panasonic brand of 3D glasses.
In the mean time, there is still a way to make 3D work with this TV right now.
For movies you'll need the full version of Stereoscopic player (the one from www.3dtv.at)
For games you'll have to use 3rd party stereoscopic 3D drivers from iZ3D.
In both these programs, you'll have to configure tham to output 3D in side by side mode, and then manually activate side by side 3D inputs in the TV menus.
If you have Avatar, the game : this game does not need 3D drivers, it can produce side by side outputs 3D internally.
Passive 3D forever
110" DIY dual-projection system
2x Epson EH-TW3500 (1080p) + Linear Polarizers (SPAR)
XtremScreen Daylight 2.0
VNS Geobox501 signal converter
[quote name='ptjohns' post='1052706' date='May 9 2010, 10:50 AM']I finally got a Panasonic TC-P50VT25 3D TV only to discover that I didn't do my homework. The 3D Vision kit I purchased doesn't appear to work, and it seems I have to wait for 3DTVPlay to release. I keep wondering if there is a way to get a version of the 3D vision software that isn't locked to allow for the 3D conversion of the software? Because if I send a 3D signal from the computer, I can view it in 3D on the TV like the Nvidia demo disc for example, I just can't figure out how to get the 3D Vision Software to send the 3D signal. If anyone has any ideas I'd love to hear them. Getting a 3D TV and 2 GTX 480s and not be able to see 3D is a little depressing![/quote]
LOL, I had my vt25 in the garage for 20 days only to find out it did not work with nvidia 3d. Nor did any other 3d tv you can currently buy. ( i tried them all). Well, Im keeping the VT 25 since its the best picture out of all 5 tvs i tried.
I think the driver currenty does not support hdmi 1.4 nor detects our tv as 3d rdy. Im going to asume that the IR emitter and glasses from Nvidia are not required. I'm waiting to see it ait or nvidia will make it to market first with an hdmi 1.4/a 3d pc solution. First one wins...
BTW, I thought panasonic were partners with nvidia for 3dtv, I guess they failed at making the product work at market release time. Similar to failing the die process on the 400 series. Double fail.
[quote name='ptjohns' post='1052706' date='May 9 2010, 10:50 AM']I finally got a Panasonic TC-P50VT25 3D TV only to discover that I didn't do my homework. The 3D Vision kit I purchased doesn't appear to work, and it seems I have to wait for 3DTVPlay to release. I keep wondering if there is a way to get a version of the 3D vision software that isn't locked to allow for the 3D conversion of the software? Because if I send a 3D signal from the computer, I can view it in 3D on the TV like the Nvidia demo disc for example, I just can't figure out how to get the 3D Vision Software to send the 3D signal. If anyone has any ideas I'd love to hear them. Getting a 3D TV and 2 GTX 480s and not be able to see 3D is a little depressing!
LOL, I had my vt25 in the garage for 20 days only to find out it did not work with nvidia 3d. Nor did any other 3d tv you can currently buy. ( i tried them all). Well, Im keeping the VT 25 since its the best picture out of all 5 tvs i tried.
I think the driver currenty does not support hdmi 1.4 nor detects our tv as 3d rdy. Im going to asume that the IR emitter and glasses from Nvidia are not required. I'm waiting to see it ait or nvidia will make it to market first with an hdmi 1.4/a 3d pc solution. First one wins...
BTW, I thought panasonic were partners with nvidia for 3dtv, I guess they failed at making the product work at market release time. Similar to failing the die process on the 400 series. Double fail.
[quote name='BlackSharkfr' post='1052727' date='May 9 2010, 11:29 AM']Hi
At the moment there is no way to use the nvidia 3D vision glasses and we do not know if nvidia will ever find a way to make them work with this TV.
Nvidia 3DTV play is designed to allow the use the TV's own brand of glasses whatever glass type the TV might be compatible with.
It is highly probably that when Nvidia 3DTV play ships you'll have to use tha panasonic brand of 3D glasses.
In the mean time, there is still a way to make 3D work with this TV right now.
For movies you'll need the full version of Stereoscopic player (the one from www.3dtv.at)
For games you'll have to use 3rd party stereoscopic 3D drivers from iZ3D.
In both these programs, you'll have to configure tham to output 3D in side by side mode, and then manually activate side by side 3D inputs in the TV menus.
If you have Avatar, the game : this game does not need 3D drivers, it can produce side by side outputs 3D internally.[/quote]
Could not get 3rd party stereoscopic 3D drivers from iZ3D to work with wow.. I see the game is in a diff 3d mode from nvidia but there was no shutter action
At the moment there is no way to use the nvidia 3D vision glasses and we do not know if nvidia will ever find a way to make them work with this TV.
Nvidia 3DTV play is designed to allow the use the TV's own brand of glasses whatever glass type the TV might be compatible with.
It is highly probably that when Nvidia 3DTV play ships you'll have to use tha panasonic brand of 3D glasses.
In the mean time, there is still a way to make 3D work with this TV right now.
For movies you'll need the full version of Stereoscopic player (the one from www.3dtv.at)
For games you'll have to use 3rd party stereoscopic 3D drivers from iZ3D.
In both these programs, you'll have to configure tham to output 3D in side by side mode, and then manually activate side by side 3D inputs in the TV menus.
If you have Avatar, the game : this game does not need 3D drivers, it can produce side by side outputs 3D internally.
Could not get 3rd party stereoscopic 3D drivers from iZ3D to work with wow.. I see the game is in a diff 3d mode from nvidia but there was no shutter action
[quote name='3D_Failon_HDMI1.4' post='1053195' date='May 9 2010, 11:01 PM']LOL, I had my vt25 in the garage for 20 days only to find out it did not work with nvidia 3d. Nor did any other 3d tv you can currently buy. ( i tried them all). Well, Im keeping the VT 25 since its the best picture out of all 5 tvs i tried.
I think the driver currenty does not support hdmi 1.4 nor detects our tv as 3d rdy. Im going to asume that the IR emitter and glasses from Nvidia are not required. I'm waiting to see it ait or nvidia will make it to market first with an hdmi 1.4/a 3d pc solution. First one wins...
BTW, I thought panasonic were partners with nvidia for 3dtv, I guess they failed at making the product work at market release time. Similar to failing the die process on the 400 series. Double fail.[/quote]
you could get a DLP hdtv to work in 3d- they are fully supported- work perfect and look great.
Also you might want to check out your local chapter of EAA or Early Adopters Anonymous- they might be able to help you out. You might want to do more research before you buy a new overpriced tv- it is common knowledge that the 1.4a 3d tvs are not all that great and lack 1080p 3d gaming.
i bet you wont have to wait too long for nvidia's solution.
[quote name='3D_Failon_HDMI1.4' post='1053195' date='May 9 2010, 11:01 PM']LOL, I had my vt25 in the garage for 20 days only to find out it did not work with nvidia 3d. Nor did any other 3d tv you can currently buy. ( i tried them all). Well, Im keeping the VT 25 since its the best picture out of all 5 tvs i tried.
I think the driver currenty does not support hdmi 1.4 nor detects our tv as 3d rdy. Im going to asume that the IR emitter and glasses from Nvidia are not required. I'm waiting to see it ait or nvidia will make it to market first with an hdmi 1.4/a 3d pc solution. First one wins...
BTW, I thought panasonic were partners with nvidia for 3dtv, I guess they failed at making the product work at market release time. Similar to failing the die process on the 400 series. Double fail.
you could get a DLP hdtv to work in 3d- they are fully supported- work perfect and look great.
Also you might want to check out your local chapter of EAA or Early Adopters Anonymous- they might be able to help you out. You might want to do more research before you buy a new overpriced tv- it is common knowledge that the 1.4a 3d tvs are not all that great and lack 1080p 3d gaming.
i bet you wont have to wait too long for nvidia's solution.
System:
Intel I7 920 overclocked to 4ghz
Asus Rampage Extreme II
2 Ge-force 480 in SLI
GTX 295 PhysX Card
12gb ddr3 2000mhz ram
Intel SSD in RAID 0
BR RW
1000w Sony surround sound
NVIDIA 3D Vision
3d displays tested:
Mitsubishi 65" DLP 3d HDTV (good old 1080p checkerboard since 2007!!!)
Panasonic VT25 (nice 2d but I returned it due to cross talk)
Acer H5360 720p on 130" screen (the best 3d)
23" Acer LCD monitor (horrible cross talk- sold it)
[quote name='3D_Failon_HDMI1.4' post='1053198' date='May 9 2010, 11:16 PM']Could not get 3rd party stereoscopic 3D drivers from iZ3D to work with wow.. I see the game is in a diff 3d mode from nvidia but there was no shutter action[/quote]
those drivers are quite a bit behind- i hope they shape up someday- but they lack multi gpu support, anything over dx9, no dlp, no shutter glass- all this is in beta right now- with the users being the testers. I don't know why anyone would recommend these drivers- its likely a plug for iz3d. like i said i hope they work someday soon- it would be great for everyone.
[quote name='3D_Failon_HDMI1.4' post='1053198' date='May 9 2010, 11:16 PM']Could not get 3rd party stereoscopic 3D drivers from iZ3D to work with wow.. I see the game is in a diff 3d mode from nvidia but there was no shutter action
those drivers are quite a bit behind- i hope they shape up someday- but they lack multi gpu support, anything over dx9, no dlp, no shutter glass- all this is in beta right now- with the users being the testers. I don't know why anyone would recommend these drivers- its likely a plug for iz3d. like i said i hope they work someday soon- it would be great for everyone.
System:
Intel I7 920 overclocked to 4ghz
Asus Rampage Extreme II
2 Ge-force 480 in SLI
GTX 295 PhysX Card
12gb ddr3 2000mhz ram
Intel SSD in RAID 0
BR RW
1000w Sony surround sound
NVIDIA 3D Vision
3d displays tested:
Mitsubishi 65" DLP 3d HDTV (good old 1080p checkerboard since 2007!!!)
Panasonic VT25 (nice 2d but I returned it due to cross talk)
Acer H5360 720p on 130" screen (the best 3d)
23" Acer LCD monitor (horrible cross talk- sold it)
[quote]those drivers are quite a bit behind- i hope they shape up someday- but they lack multi gpu support, anything over dx9, no dlp, no shutter glass- all this is in beta right now- with the users being the testers. I don't know why anyone would recommend these drivers- its likely a plug for iz3d. like i said i hope they work someday soon- it would be great for everyone.[/quote]
Yes, these drivers may be lagging behing the nvidia drivers but they have a significant advantage : they aren't locked. They give the user total control to manually switch any element in the driver, something nvidia has been hard at work to remove from it's drivers, and as a result you can make them work with these new 3DTVs without having to wait for a patch. They also support other displays for which nvidia removed all support.
[quote post='1053198' date='May 10 2010, 08:16 AM']Could not get 3rd party stereoscopic 3D drivers from iZ3D to work with wow.. I see the game is in a diff 3d mode from nvidia but there was no shutter action[/quote]
Disable the nvidia 3D vision driver, it doesn't work with your TV at all, it might disturb the other 3D driver.
You have to use the Panasonic 3D glasses, the nvidia 3D vision glasses do not work with this TV and it is unknon if Nvidia will ever find a way to make them work with this TV.
Do a full install of the iZ3D driver, in the iZ3D control center, under the DirectX section select the side by side output with "left/right" mode, tick either "enable stereo" or "enable stereo by hotkey" and click apply (important : click apply)
-enable stereo will activate 3D mode immediately when starting the game, you can switch 3D off ay any moment ingame with a key on your keyboard
-enable stereo by hotkey will start the game in driver stand-by mode, the game is rendered 2D until you press a key to switch 3D on.
the defaut key to switch 3D on/off is the * key on your keypad, you can change it in the profiles section.
Then check the software generates the left and right eye views, go to the help secton and click the dynamic test (say yes, do the 32 bit test).
You should see a window opening with a test scene displayed twice side by side and squashed horizontally.
Fullscreen the test scene to check if your TV works in 3D. The test scene is low resolution (resolution does not increase as you increase the size of the window) but it will allow you to see if there is a problem.
You now have to manually enable the 3D mode in the TV menus and tell the TV to use a side by side 3D input picture. I don't know how the Panasonic TV menus are structured, you have to find this menu yourself but I know they're there, i've read it in a review.
Once you have set this up the panasonic glasses should start to blink. Use the iZ3D hotkey to enable/disable 3D (default keypad *) to check if everything works.
Then use the test scene to learn how to adjust separation and convergence and eventually swap eyes if necessary because you'll need to set it up in every game (iZ3D does not pre-calibrates every game like nvidia does, you have to do it yourself).
Once you got the test scene working try your games again.
those drivers are quite a bit behind- i hope they shape up someday- but they lack multi gpu support, anything over dx9, no dlp, no shutter glass- all this is in beta right now- with the users being the testers. I don't know why anyone would recommend these drivers- its likely a plug for iz3d. like i said i hope they work someday soon- it would be great for everyone.
Yes, these drivers may be lagging behing the nvidia drivers but they have a significant advantage : they aren't locked. They give the user total control to manually switch any element in the driver, something nvidia has been hard at work to remove from it's drivers, and as a result you can make them work with these new 3DTVs without having to wait for a patch. They also support other displays for which nvidia removed all support.
[quote post='1053198' date='May 10 2010, 08:16 AM']Could not get 3rd party stereoscopic 3D drivers from iZ3D to work with wow.. I see the game is in a diff 3d mode from nvidia but there was no shutter action
Disable the nvidia 3D vision driver, it doesn't work with your TV at all, it might disturb the other 3D driver.
You have to use the Panasonic 3D glasses, the nvidia 3D vision glasses do not work with this TV and it is unknon if Nvidia will ever find a way to make them work with this TV.
Do a full install of the iZ3D driver, in the iZ3D control center, under the DirectX section select the side by side output with "left/right" mode, tick either "enable stereo" or "enable stereo by hotkey" and click apply (important : click apply)
-enable stereo will activate 3D mode immediately when starting the game, you can switch 3D off ay any moment ingame with a key on your keyboard
-enable stereo by hotkey will start the game in driver stand-by mode, the game is rendered 2D until you press a key to switch 3D on.
the defaut key to switch 3D on/off is the * key on your keypad, you can change it in the profiles section.
Then check the software generates the left and right eye views, go to the help secton and click the dynamic test (say yes, do the 32 bit test).
You should see a window opening with a test scene displayed twice side by side and squashed horizontally.
Fullscreen the test scene to check if your TV works in 3D. The test scene is low resolution (resolution does not increase as you increase the size of the window) but it will allow you to see if there is a problem.
You now have to manually enable the 3D mode in the TV menus and tell the TV to use a side by side 3D input picture. I don't know how the Panasonic TV menus are structured, you have to find this menu yourself but I know they're there, i've read it in a review.
Once you have set this up the panasonic glasses should start to blink. Use the iZ3D hotkey to enable/disable 3D (default keypad *) to check if everything works.
Then use the test scene to learn how to adjust separation and convergence and eventually swap eyes if necessary because you'll need to set it up in every game (iZ3D does not pre-calibrates every game like nvidia does, you have to do it yourself).
Once you got the test scene working try your games again.
Passive 3D forever
110" DIY dual-projection system
2x Epson EH-TW3500 (1080p) + Linear Polarizers (SPAR)
XtremScreen Daylight 2.0
VNS Geobox501 signal converter
[quote name='BlackSharkfr' date='May 10 2010, 04:53 AM' post='1053281']
Yes, these drivers may be lagging behing the nvidia drivers but they have a significant advantage : they aren't locked. They give the user total control to manually switch any element in the driver, something nvidia has been hard at work to remove from it's drivers, and as a result you can make them work with these new 3DTVs without having to wait for a patch. They also support other displays for which nvidia removed all support.
bro, you are preaching to the choir- ill be one of the first to run these drivers once they are mature! i just dont have the time to beta test them now for free- just getting games to work well in S3D is time consuming enough for me. these drivers are the reason i have not bought any more nvidia glasses. I just hope that they dont get locked down to run better on ATI hardware- which could possibly happen due to whatever relationship these companies might have.
But we have to admit- Nvidia's solution is great because it works right now- with all the bells and whistles. The reason it works so well is because of Nvidia's capitalist methods- like locking down drivers. At first glance it might not seem best for end users but it is best for nvidia- which to me shows how well their business model works- just look at how far ahead they are with 3d right now. so end the end the user reaps the benefit of strong-arm proprietary tactics
Yes, these drivers may be lagging behing the nvidia drivers but they have a significant advantage : they aren't locked. They give the user total control to manually switch any element in the driver, something nvidia has been hard at work to remove from it's drivers, and as a result you can make them work with these new 3DTVs without having to wait for a patch. They also support other displays for which nvidia removed all support.
bro, you are preaching to the choir- ill be one of the first to run these drivers once they are mature! i just dont have the time to beta test them now for free- just getting games to work well in S3D is time consuming enough for me. these drivers are the reason i have not bought any more nvidia glasses. I just hope that they dont get locked down to run better on ATI hardware- which could possibly happen due to whatever relationship these companies might have.
But we have to admit- Nvidia's solution is great because it works right now- with all the bells and whistles. The reason it works so well is because of Nvidia's capitalist methods- like locking down drivers. At first glance it might not seem best for end users but it is best for nvidia- which to me shows how well their business model works- just look at how far ahead they are with 3d right now. so end the end the user reaps the benefit of strong-arm proprietary tactics
System:
Intel I7 920 overclocked to 4ghz
Asus Rampage Extreme II
2 Ge-force 480 in SLI
GTX 295 PhysX Card
12gb ddr3 2000mhz ram
Intel SSD in RAID 0
BR RW
1000w Sony surround sound
NVIDIA 3D Vision
3d displays tested:
Mitsubishi 65" DLP 3d HDTV (good old 1080p checkerboard since 2007!!!)
Panasonic VT25 (nice 2d but I returned it due to cross talk)
Acer H5360 720p on 130" screen (the best 3d)
23" Acer LCD monitor (horrible cross talk- sold it)
How do you send the 3D signal now?
How do you send the 3D signal now?
At the moment there is no way to use the nvidia 3D vision glasses and we do not know if nvidia will ever find a way to make them work with this TV.
Nvidia 3DTV play is designed to allow the use the TV's own brand of glasses whatever glass type the TV might be compatible with.
It is highly probably that when Nvidia 3DTV play ships you'll have to use tha panasonic brand of 3D glasses.
In the mean time, there is still a way to make 3D work with this TV right now.
For movies you'll need the full version of Stereoscopic player (the one from www.3dtv.at)
For games you'll have to use 3rd party stereoscopic 3D drivers from iZ3D.
In both these programs, you'll have to configure tham to output 3D in side by side mode, and then manually activate side by side 3D inputs in the TV menus.
If you have Avatar, the game : this game does not need 3D drivers, it can produce side by side outputs 3D internally.
At the moment there is no way to use the nvidia 3D vision glasses and we do not know if nvidia will ever find a way to make them work with this TV.
Nvidia 3DTV play is designed to allow the use the TV's own brand of glasses whatever glass type the TV might be compatible with.
It is highly probably that when Nvidia 3DTV play ships you'll have to use tha panasonic brand of 3D glasses.
In the mean time, there is still a way to make 3D work with this TV right now.
For movies you'll need the full version of Stereoscopic player (the one from www.3dtv.at)
For games you'll have to use 3rd party stereoscopic 3D drivers from iZ3D.
In both these programs, you'll have to configure tham to output 3D in side by side mode, and then manually activate side by side 3D inputs in the TV menus.
If you have Avatar, the game : this game does not need 3D drivers, it can produce side by side outputs 3D internally.
Passive 3D forever
110" DIY dual-projection system
2x Epson EH-TW3500 (1080p) + Linear Polarizers (SPAR)
XtremScreen Daylight 2.0
VNS Geobox501 signal converter
LOL, I had my vt25 in the garage for 20 days only to find out it did not work with nvidia 3d. Nor did any other 3d tv you can currently buy. ( i tried them all). Well, Im keeping the VT 25 since its the best picture out of all 5 tvs i tried.
I think the driver currenty does not support hdmi 1.4 nor detects our tv as 3d rdy. Im going to asume that the IR emitter and glasses from Nvidia are not required. I'm waiting to see it ait or nvidia will make it to market first with an hdmi 1.4/a 3d pc solution. First one wins...
BTW, I thought panasonic were partners with nvidia for 3dtv, I guess they failed at making the product work at market release time. Similar to failing the die process on the 400 series. Double fail.
LOL, I had my vt25 in the garage for 20 days only to find out it did not work with nvidia 3d. Nor did any other 3d tv you can currently buy. ( i tried them all). Well, Im keeping the VT 25 since its the best picture out of all 5 tvs i tried.
I think the driver currenty does not support hdmi 1.4 nor detects our tv as 3d rdy. Im going to asume that the IR emitter and glasses from Nvidia are not required. I'm waiting to see it ait or nvidia will make it to market first with an hdmi 1.4/a 3d pc solution. First one wins...
BTW, I thought panasonic were partners with nvidia for 3dtv, I guess they failed at making the product work at market release time. Similar to failing the die process on the 400 series. Double fail.
At the moment there is no way to use the nvidia 3D vision glasses and we do not know if nvidia will ever find a way to make them work with this TV.
Nvidia 3DTV play is designed to allow the use the TV's own brand of glasses whatever glass type the TV might be compatible with.
It is highly probably that when Nvidia 3DTV play ships you'll have to use tha panasonic brand of 3D glasses.
In the mean time, there is still a way to make 3D work with this TV right now.
For movies you'll need the full version of Stereoscopic player (the one from www.3dtv.at)
For games you'll have to use 3rd party stereoscopic 3D drivers from iZ3D.
In both these programs, you'll have to configure tham to output 3D in side by side mode, and then manually activate side by side 3D inputs in the TV menus.
If you have Avatar, the game : this game does not need 3D drivers, it can produce side by side outputs 3D internally.[/quote]
Could not get 3rd party stereoscopic 3D drivers from iZ3D to work with wow.. I see the game is in a diff 3d mode from nvidia but there was no shutter action
At the moment there is no way to use the nvidia 3D vision glasses and we do not know if nvidia will ever find a way to make them work with this TV.
Nvidia 3DTV play is designed to allow the use the TV's own brand of glasses whatever glass type the TV might be compatible with.
It is highly probably that when Nvidia 3DTV play ships you'll have to use tha panasonic brand of 3D glasses.
In the mean time, there is still a way to make 3D work with this TV right now.
For movies you'll need the full version of Stereoscopic player (the one from www.3dtv.at)
For games you'll have to use 3rd party stereoscopic 3D drivers from iZ3D.
In both these programs, you'll have to configure tham to output 3D in side by side mode, and then manually activate side by side 3D inputs in the TV menus.
If you have Avatar, the game : this game does not need 3D drivers, it can produce side by side outputs 3D internally.
Could not get 3rd party stereoscopic 3D drivers from iZ3D to work with wow.. I see the game is in a diff 3d mode from nvidia but there was no shutter action
I think the driver currenty does not support hdmi 1.4 nor detects our tv as 3d rdy. Im going to asume that the IR emitter and glasses from Nvidia are not required. I'm waiting to see it ait or nvidia will make it to market first with an hdmi 1.4/a 3d pc solution. First one wins...
BTW, I thought panasonic were partners with nvidia for 3dtv, I guess they failed at making the product work at market release time. Similar to failing the die process on the 400 series. Double fail.[/quote]
you could get a DLP hdtv to work in 3d- they are fully supported- work perfect and look great.
Also you might want to check out your local chapter of EAA or Early Adopters Anonymous- they might be able to help you out. You might want to do more research before you buy a new overpriced tv- it is common knowledge that the 1.4a 3d tvs are not all that great and lack 1080p 3d gaming.
i bet you wont have to wait too long for nvidia's solution.
I think the driver currenty does not support hdmi 1.4 nor detects our tv as 3d rdy. Im going to asume that the IR emitter and glasses from Nvidia are not required. I'm waiting to see it ait or nvidia will make it to market first with an hdmi 1.4/a 3d pc solution. First one wins...
BTW, I thought panasonic were partners with nvidia for 3dtv, I guess they failed at making the product work at market release time. Similar to failing the die process on the 400 series. Double fail.
you could get a DLP hdtv to work in 3d- they are fully supported- work perfect and look great.
Also you might want to check out your local chapter of EAA or Early Adopters Anonymous- they might be able to help you out. You might want to do more research before you buy a new overpriced tv- it is common knowledge that the 1.4a 3d tvs are not all that great and lack 1080p 3d gaming.
i bet you wont have to wait too long for nvidia's solution.
System:
Intel I7 920 overclocked to 4ghz
Asus Rampage Extreme II
2 Ge-force 480 in SLI
GTX 295 PhysX Card
12gb ddr3 2000mhz ram
Intel SSD in RAID 0
BR RW
1000w Sony surround sound
NVIDIA 3D Vision
3d displays tested:
Mitsubishi 65" DLP 3d HDTV (good old 1080p checkerboard since 2007!!!)
Panasonic VT25 (nice 2d but I returned it due to cross talk)
Acer H5360 720p on 130" screen (the best 3d)
23" Acer LCD monitor (horrible cross talk- sold it)
Samsung 65D8000
those drivers are quite a bit behind- i hope they shape up someday- but they lack multi gpu support, anything over dx9, no dlp, no shutter glass- all this is in beta right now- with the users being the testers. I don't know why anyone would recommend these drivers- its likely a plug for iz3d. like i said i hope they work someday soon- it would be great for everyone.
those drivers are quite a bit behind- i hope they shape up someday- but they lack multi gpu support, anything over dx9, no dlp, no shutter glass- all this is in beta right now- with the users being the testers. I don't know why anyone would recommend these drivers- its likely a plug for iz3d. like i said i hope they work someday soon- it would be great for everyone.
System:
Intel I7 920 overclocked to 4ghz
Asus Rampage Extreme II
2 Ge-force 480 in SLI
GTX 295 PhysX Card
12gb ddr3 2000mhz ram
Intel SSD in RAID 0
BR RW
1000w Sony surround sound
NVIDIA 3D Vision
3d displays tested:
Mitsubishi 65" DLP 3d HDTV (good old 1080p checkerboard since 2007!!!)
Panasonic VT25 (nice 2d but I returned it due to cross talk)
Acer H5360 720p on 130" screen (the best 3d)
23" Acer LCD monitor (horrible cross talk- sold it)
Samsung 65D8000
I7 2600k @5Ghz | Asus P8Z68-V Pro | SS Phase Change | Corsair AX1200 watt PSU | G-Skill 1600CL7 | Asus GTX680 x2 SLI | Lian-Li PC8N-WX | Intel 520 120GB SSD | HP ZR24w 24" S-IPS x3 Nvidia Surround | Samsung S27A950D 27" 120Hz LCD
Thats where ya customer's are confused hey, make it simple and it sell alot make it hard you just lost em!!!
Thats where ya customer's are confused hey, make it simple and it sell alot make it hard you just lost em!!!
Yes, these drivers may be lagging behing the nvidia drivers but they have a significant advantage : they aren't locked. They give the user total control to manually switch any element in the driver, something nvidia has been hard at work to remove from it's drivers, and as a result you can make them work with these new 3DTVs without having to wait for a patch. They also support other displays for which nvidia removed all support.
[quote post='1053198' date='May 10 2010, 08:16 AM']Could not get 3rd party stereoscopic 3D drivers from iZ3D to work with wow.. I see the game is in a diff 3d mode from nvidia but there was no shutter action[/quote]
Disable the nvidia 3D vision driver, it doesn't work with your TV at all, it might disturb the other 3D driver.
You have to use the Panasonic 3D glasses, the nvidia 3D vision glasses do not work with this TV and it is unknon if Nvidia will ever find a way to make them work with this TV.
Do a full install of the iZ3D driver, in the iZ3D control center, under the DirectX section select the side by side output with "left/right" mode, tick either "enable stereo" or "enable stereo by hotkey" and click apply (important : click apply)
-enable stereo will activate 3D mode immediately when starting the game, you can switch 3D off ay any moment ingame with a key on your keyboard
-enable stereo by hotkey will start the game in driver stand-by mode, the game is rendered 2D until you press a key to switch 3D on.
the defaut key to switch 3D on/off is the * key on your keypad, you can change it in the profiles section.
Then check the software generates the left and right eye views, go to the help secton and click the dynamic test (say yes, do the 32 bit test).
You should see a window opening with a test scene displayed twice side by side and squashed horizontally.
Fullscreen the test scene to check if your TV works in 3D. The test scene is low resolution (resolution does not increase as you increase the size of the window) but it will allow you to see if there is a problem.
You now have to manually enable the 3D mode in the TV menus and tell the TV to use a side by side 3D input picture. I don't know how the Panasonic TV menus are structured, you have to find this menu yourself but I know they're there, i've read it in a review.
Once you have set this up the panasonic glasses should start to blink. Use the iZ3D hotkey to enable/disable 3D (default keypad *) to check if everything works.
Then use the test scene to learn how to adjust separation and convergence and eventually swap eyes if necessary because you'll need to set it up in every game (iZ3D does not pre-calibrates every game like nvidia does, you have to do it yourself).
Once you got the test scene working try your games again.
Yes, these drivers may be lagging behing the nvidia drivers but they have a significant advantage : they aren't locked. They give the user total control to manually switch any element in the driver, something nvidia has been hard at work to remove from it's drivers, and as a result you can make them work with these new 3DTVs without having to wait for a patch. They also support other displays for which nvidia removed all support.
[quote post='1053198' date='May 10 2010, 08:16 AM']Could not get 3rd party stereoscopic 3D drivers from iZ3D to work with wow.. I see the game is in a diff 3d mode from nvidia but there was no shutter action
Disable the nvidia 3D vision driver, it doesn't work with your TV at all, it might disturb the other 3D driver.
You have to use the Panasonic 3D glasses, the nvidia 3D vision glasses do not work with this TV and it is unknon if Nvidia will ever find a way to make them work with this TV.
Do a full install of the iZ3D driver, in the iZ3D control center, under the DirectX section select the side by side output with "left/right" mode, tick either "enable stereo" or "enable stereo by hotkey" and click apply (important : click apply)
-enable stereo will activate 3D mode immediately when starting the game, you can switch 3D off ay any moment ingame with a key on your keyboard
-enable stereo by hotkey will start the game in driver stand-by mode, the game is rendered 2D until you press a key to switch 3D on.
the defaut key to switch 3D on/off is the * key on your keypad, you can change it in the profiles section.
Then check the software generates the left and right eye views, go to the help secton and click the dynamic test (say yes, do the 32 bit test).
You should see a window opening with a test scene displayed twice side by side and squashed horizontally.
Fullscreen the test scene to check if your TV works in 3D. The test scene is low resolution (resolution does not increase as you increase the size of the window) but it will allow you to see if there is a problem.
You now have to manually enable the 3D mode in the TV menus and tell the TV to use a side by side 3D input picture. I don't know how the Panasonic TV menus are structured, you have to find this menu yourself but I know they're there, i've read it in a review.
Once you have set this up the panasonic glasses should start to blink. Use the iZ3D hotkey to enable/disable 3D (default keypad *) to check if everything works.
Then use the test scene to learn how to adjust separation and convergence and eventually swap eyes if necessary because you'll need to set it up in every game (iZ3D does not pre-calibrates every game like nvidia does, you have to do it yourself).
Once you got the test scene working try your games again.
Passive 3D forever
110" DIY dual-projection system
2x Epson EH-TW3500 (1080p) + Linear Polarizers (SPAR)
XtremScreen Daylight 2.0
VNS Geobox501 signal converter
Yes, these drivers may be lagging behing the nvidia drivers but they have a significant advantage : they aren't locked. They give the user total control to manually switch any element in the driver, something nvidia has been hard at work to remove from it's drivers, and as a result you can make them work with these new 3DTVs without having to wait for a patch. They also support other displays for which nvidia removed all support.
bro, you are preaching to the choir- ill be one of the first to run these drivers once they are mature! i just dont have the time to beta test them now for free- just getting games to work well in S3D is time consuming enough for me. these drivers are the reason i have not bought any more nvidia glasses. I just hope that they dont get locked down to run better on ATI hardware- which could possibly happen due to whatever relationship these companies might have.
But we have to admit- Nvidia's solution is great because it works right now- with all the bells and whistles. The reason it works so well is because of Nvidia's capitalist methods- like locking down drivers. At first glance it might not seem best for end users but it is best for nvidia- which to me shows how well their business model works- just look at how far ahead they are with 3d right now. so end the end the user reaps the benefit of strong-arm proprietary tactics
Yes, these drivers may be lagging behing the nvidia drivers but they have a significant advantage : they aren't locked. They give the user total control to manually switch any element in the driver, something nvidia has been hard at work to remove from it's drivers, and as a result you can make them work with these new 3DTVs without having to wait for a patch. They also support other displays for which nvidia removed all support.
bro, you are preaching to the choir- ill be one of the first to run these drivers once they are mature! i just dont have the time to beta test them now for free- just getting games to work well in S3D is time consuming enough for me. these drivers are the reason i have not bought any more nvidia glasses. I just hope that they dont get locked down to run better on ATI hardware- which could possibly happen due to whatever relationship these companies might have.
But we have to admit- Nvidia's solution is great because it works right now- with all the bells and whistles. The reason it works so well is because of Nvidia's capitalist methods- like locking down drivers. At first glance it might not seem best for end users but it is best for nvidia- which to me shows how well their business model works- just look at how far ahead they are with 3d right now. so end the end the user reaps the benefit of strong-arm proprietary tactics
System:
Intel I7 920 overclocked to 4ghz
Asus Rampage Extreme II
2 Ge-force 480 in SLI
GTX 295 PhysX Card
12gb ddr3 2000mhz ram
Intel SSD in RAID 0
BR RW
1000w Sony surround sound
NVIDIA 3D Vision
3d displays tested:
Mitsubishi 65" DLP 3d HDTV (good old 1080p checkerboard since 2007!!!)
Panasonic VT25 (nice 2d but I returned it due to cross talk)
Acer H5360 720p on 130" screen (the best 3d)
23" Acer LCD monitor (horrible cross talk- sold it)
Samsung 65D8000