3D Blu-Ray VOB & IFO glitch on HDD 3D Blu-Ray not working
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I own a 1.5 TB Home Entertainment Media Device, i keep all of my DVD's on there, it is capable of playing VOB's, MPEG's, AVI's, MP4's, and many other formats

I keep all of my older VCD files on it, as well as DVD5's, DVD9's, and Blu-Ray DVD's, they dont have any trouble playing at all

i always put my DVD's directly into the Home Entertainment Media Device in my Home Theater Room, maintaining the original VOB format, so as to maintain quality identical to the original DVD, and I keep the Original in its original packaging, because DVD's are very expensive, and after simply touching them one time, its entirely possible that they will never play properly again and be unable to be read by any HDD-based Home Entertainment device

I always make sure i have the IFO's and the Video TS_files included

I recently bought a 3D Blu-Ray and did what I usually do, but the menu's dont function, there is no way to turn the 3D off, its always on, even when playing a single VOB file

on the DVD, the menu works fine, and I can select 2D or 3D, i bought the 3D DVD specifically because it also had 2D view, i really dont care for the 3D glasses and view, but i think it could be fun sometimes

but on the Home Entertainment Media Device, the 3D is always on and cannot be turned off

I even made the folder contents identical to that on the DVD, and it still didnt work

to troubleshoot, i put the entire folder on my PC HDD and tested it with Cyberlink PowerDVD10, and it also failed to display the menu to change to 2D and only 3D was displayed

my main question here, is how to disable the 3D function in the movie altogether.

is it possible to do by editing either the Video_TS IFO or the Series IFO files?

does anyone know the exact part of the DVD which determines 3D or 2D playback?

thanks in advance for any help
I own a 1.5 TB Home Entertainment Media Device, i keep all of my DVD's on there, it is capable of playing VOB's, MPEG's, AVI's, MP4's, and many other formats



I keep all of my older VCD files on it, as well as DVD5's, DVD9's, and Blu-Ray DVD's, they dont have any trouble playing at all



i always put my DVD's directly into the Home Entertainment Media Device in my Home Theater Room, maintaining the original VOB format, so as to maintain quality identical to the original DVD, and I keep the Original in its original packaging, because DVD's are very expensive, and after simply touching them one time, its entirely possible that they will never play properly again and be unable to be read by any HDD-based Home Entertainment device



I always make sure i have the IFO's and the Video TS_files included



I recently bought a 3D Blu-Ray and did what I usually do, but the menu's dont function, there is no way to turn the 3D off, its always on, even when playing a single VOB file



on the DVD, the menu works fine, and I can select 2D or 3D, i bought the 3D DVD specifically because it also had 2D view, i really dont care for the 3D glasses and view, but i think it could be fun sometimes



but on the Home Entertainment Media Device, the 3D is always on and cannot be turned off



I even made the folder contents identical to that on the DVD, and it still didnt work



to troubleshoot, i put the entire folder on my PC HDD and tested it with Cyberlink PowerDVD10, and it also failed to display the menu to change to 2D and only 3D was displayed



my main question here, is how to disable the 3D function in the movie altogether.



is it possible to do by editing either the Video_TS IFO or the Series IFO files?



does anyone know the exact part of the DVD which determines 3D or 2D playback?



thanks in advance for any help

#1
Posted 10/14/2010 08:32 AM   
I own a 1.5 TB Home Entertainment Media Device, i keep all of my DVD's on there, it is capable of playing VOB's, MPEG's, AVI's, MP4's, and many other formats

I keep all of my older VCD files on it, as well as DVD5's, DVD9's, and Blu-Ray DVD's, they dont have any trouble playing at all

i always put my DVD's directly into the Home Entertainment Media Device in my Home Theater Room, maintaining the original VOB format, so as to maintain quality identical to the original DVD, and I keep the Original in its original packaging, because DVD's are very expensive, and after simply touching them one time, its entirely possible that they will never play properly again and be unable to be read by any HDD-based Home Entertainment device

I always make sure i have the IFO's and the Video TS_files included

I recently bought a 3D Blu-Ray and did what I usually do, but the menu's dont function, there is no way to turn the 3D off, its always on, even when playing a single VOB file

on the DVD, the menu works fine, and I can select 2D or 3D, i bought the 3D DVD specifically because it also had 2D view, i really dont care for the 3D glasses and view, but i think it could be fun sometimes

but on the Home Entertainment Media Device, the 3D is always on and cannot be turned off

I even made the folder contents identical to that on the DVD, and it still didnt work

to troubleshoot, i put the entire folder on my PC HDD and tested it with Cyberlink PowerDVD10, and it also failed to display the menu to change to 2D and only 3D was displayed

my main question here, is how to disable the 3D function in the movie altogether.

is it possible to do by editing either the Video_TS IFO or the Series IFO files?

does anyone know the exact part of the DVD which determines 3D or 2D playback?

thanks in advance for any help
I own a 1.5 TB Home Entertainment Media Device, i keep all of my DVD's on there, it is capable of playing VOB's, MPEG's, AVI's, MP4's, and many other formats



I keep all of my older VCD files on it, as well as DVD5's, DVD9's, and Blu-Ray DVD's, they dont have any trouble playing at all



i always put my DVD's directly into the Home Entertainment Media Device in my Home Theater Room, maintaining the original VOB format, so as to maintain quality identical to the original DVD, and I keep the Original in its original packaging, because DVD's are very expensive, and after simply touching them one time, its entirely possible that they will never play properly again and be unable to be read by any HDD-based Home Entertainment device



I always make sure i have the IFO's and the Video TS_files included



I recently bought a 3D Blu-Ray and did what I usually do, but the menu's dont function, there is no way to turn the 3D off, its always on, even when playing a single VOB file



on the DVD, the menu works fine, and I can select 2D or 3D, i bought the 3D DVD specifically because it also had 2D view, i really dont care for the 3D glasses and view, but i think it could be fun sometimes



but on the Home Entertainment Media Device, the 3D is always on and cannot be turned off



I even made the folder contents identical to that on the DVD, and it still didnt work



to troubleshoot, i put the entire folder on my PC HDD and tested it with Cyberlink PowerDVD10, and it also failed to display the menu to change to 2D and only 3D was displayed



my main question here, is how to disable the 3D function in the movie altogether.



is it possible to do by editing either the Video_TS IFO or the Series IFO files?



does anyone know the exact part of the DVD which determines 3D or 2D playback?



thanks in advance for any help

#2
Posted 10/14/2010 08:32 AM   
i wonder if the Blu-Ray people have even thought this out, perhaps they just made some sort of mistake, 3D Blu-Rays are fairly new, and maybe they simply arent aware of this problem

its fine for 3D, but its really quite a chore to own a 3D movie than can never be played in 2D, it really makes buying 3D movies not worth the effort.

Sure 3D is fun, but if you dont have any other option other than 3D, it severely limits the versatility of the movie, and I'd much rather have 2D than 3D if I can only have one

If there isnt any other way, i think I will just take this 3D movie back to the shop where i purchased it and see if i can exchange it for a normal 2D version

the thing that gets me is that its just a selectable menu item on the DVD, with probably 1kb additional file size on the DVD, there are no additional video files, and no additional '3D' files as far as I can see

the default seems to be 3D, and the 2D is achieved by only the tiniest of commands.. but it appears to be beyond the capabilities of current media readers

any ideas around this?

otherwise, im out of the 3D market altogether, and will never purchase another one, aside from maybe some novelty 3D flicks
i wonder if the Blu-Ray people have even thought this out, perhaps they just made some sort of mistake, 3D Blu-Rays are fairly new, and maybe they simply arent aware of this problem



its fine for 3D, but its really quite a chore to own a 3D movie than can never be played in 2D, it really makes buying 3D movies not worth the effort.



Sure 3D is fun, but if you dont have any other option other than 3D, it severely limits the versatility of the movie, and I'd much rather have 2D than 3D if I can only have one



If there isnt any other way, i think I will just take this 3D movie back to the shop where i purchased it and see if i can exchange it for a normal 2D version



the thing that gets me is that its just a selectable menu item on the DVD, with probably 1kb additional file size on the DVD, there are no additional video files, and no additional '3D' files as far as I can see



the default seems to be 3D, and the 2D is achieved by only the tiniest of commands.. but it appears to be beyond the capabilities of current media readers



any ideas around this?



otherwise, im out of the 3D market altogether, and will never purchase another one, aside from maybe some novelty 3D flicks

#3
Posted 10/14/2010 09:10 AM   
i wonder if the Blu-Ray people have even thought this out, perhaps they just made some sort of mistake, 3D Blu-Rays are fairly new, and maybe they simply arent aware of this problem

its fine for 3D, but its really quite a chore to own a 3D movie than can never be played in 2D, it really makes buying 3D movies not worth the effort.

Sure 3D is fun, but if you dont have any other option other than 3D, it severely limits the versatility of the movie, and I'd much rather have 2D than 3D if I can only have one

If there isnt any other way, i think I will just take this 3D movie back to the shop where i purchased it and see if i can exchange it for a normal 2D version

the thing that gets me is that its just a selectable menu item on the DVD, with probably 1kb additional file size on the DVD, there are no additional video files, and no additional '3D' files as far as I can see

the default seems to be 3D, and the 2D is achieved by only the tiniest of commands.. but it appears to be beyond the capabilities of current media readers

any ideas around this?

otherwise, im out of the 3D market altogether, and will never purchase another one, aside from maybe some novelty 3D flicks
i wonder if the Blu-Ray people have even thought this out, perhaps they just made some sort of mistake, 3D Blu-Rays are fairly new, and maybe they simply arent aware of this problem



its fine for 3D, but its really quite a chore to own a 3D movie than can never be played in 2D, it really makes buying 3D movies not worth the effort.



Sure 3D is fun, but if you dont have any other option other than 3D, it severely limits the versatility of the movie, and I'd much rather have 2D than 3D if I can only have one



If there isnt any other way, i think I will just take this 3D movie back to the shop where i purchased it and see if i can exchange it for a normal 2D version



the thing that gets me is that its just a selectable menu item on the DVD, with probably 1kb additional file size on the DVD, there are no additional video files, and no additional '3D' files as far as I can see



the default seems to be 3D, and the 2D is achieved by only the tiniest of commands.. but it appears to be beyond the capabilities of current media readers



any ideas around this?



otherwise, im out of the 3D market altogether, and will never purchase another one, aside from maybe some novelty 3D flicks

#4
Posted 10/14/2010 09:10 AM   
3D BLu-rays do not have VOB files. And the 3D Blu-ray will also play in 2D if you want. They are backwards compatible with non-3D BD players.
3D BLu-rays do not have VOB files. And the 3D Blu-ray will also play in 2D if you want. They are backwards compatible with non-3D BD players.

#5
Posted 10/14/2010 03:03 PM   
3D BLu-rays do not have VOB files. And the 3D Blu-ray will also play in 2D if you want. They are backwards compatible with non-3D BD players.
3D BLu-rays do not have VOB files. And the 3D Blu-ray will also play in 2D if you want. They are backwards compatible with non-3D BD players.

#6
Posted 10/14/2010 03:03 PM   
I'm not sure if it will work but try renaming the folder containing the SSIF files (or delete it). The SSIF files are what contain the delta information to generate the 2nd eye view. If the player can't find these files, I guess it should play the video normally in 2D.
I'm not sure if it will work but try renaming the folder containing the SSIF files (or delete it). The SSIF files are what contain the delta information to generate the 2nd eye view. If the player can't find these files, I guess it should play the video normally in 2D.

Passive 3D forever
110" DIY dual-projection system
2x Epson EH-TW3500 (1080p) + Linear Polarizers (SPAR)
XtremScreen Daylight 2.0
VNS Geobox501 signal converter

#7
Posted 10/14/2010 03:34 PM   
I'm not sure if it will work but try renaming the folder containing the SSIF files (or delete it). The SSIF files are what contain the delta information to generate the 2nd eye view. If the player can't find these files, I guess it should play the video normally in 2D.
I'm not sure if it will work but try renaming the folder containing the SSIF files (or delete it). The SSIF files are what contain the delta information to generate the 2nd eye view. If the player can't find these files, I guess it should play the video normally in 2D.

Passive 3D forever
110" DIY dual-projection system
2x Epson EH-TW3500 (1080p) + Linear Polarizers (SPAR)
XtremScreen Daylight 2.0
VNS Geobox501 signal converter

#8
Posted 10/14/2010 03:34 PM   
[quote name='almostinsane' post='1130731' date='Oct 14 2010, 04:03 PM']3D BLu-rays do not have VOB files. And the 3D Blu-ray will also play in 2D if you want. They are backwards compatible with non-3D BD players.[/quote]

thanks for the reply,

perhaps its a regional variable.

the region I am in often has different DVD's than what you find in North America or Europe

the DVD most certainly has VOB files, and it most certainly does have 3D or 2D selectable from the menu

the 3D is difficult to see, its red and blue and double or triple images, and impossible to watch without glasses

the 2D looks perfectly normal and beautiful, as any Blu-Ray DVD

but once its on my HDD, i no longer have menu control and all it does is play 3D, with no way to change to 2D

its quite strange



[quote name='BlackSharkfr' post='1130732' date='Oct 14 2010, 04:34 PM']I'm not sure if it will work but try renaming the folder containing the SSIF files (or delete it). The SSIF files are what contain the delta information to generate the 2nd eye view. If the player can't find these files, I guess it should play the video normally in 2D.[/quote]

well thats the thing, I dont have that file, only VOB IFO and BUP and nothing else

it should be default normal view, but it defaults in 3D, as if it has a command within the Video TS file that adjusts for 2D, because there are no additional large files, so the entire movie contains apparently two streams of info, both within the same VOB files

and I dont know how to get it to display 2D
[quote name='almostinsane' post='1130731' date='Oct 14 2010, 04:03 PM']3D BLu-rays do not have VOB files. And the 3D Blu-ray will also play in 2D if you want. They are backwards compatible with non-3D BD players.



thanks for the reply,



perhaps its a regional variable.



the region I am in often has different DVD's than what you find in North America or Europe



the DVD most certainly has VOB files, and it most certainly does have 3D or 2D selectable from the menu



the 3D is difficult to see, its red and blue and double or triple images, and impossible to watch without glasses



the 2D looks perfectly normal and beautiful, as any Blu-Ray DVD



but once its on my HDD, i no longer have menu control and all it does is play 3D, with no way to change to 2D



its quite strange







[quote name='BlackSharkfr' post='1130732' date='Oct 14 2010, 04:34 PM']I'm not sure if it will work but try renaming the folder containing the SSIF files (or delete it). The SSIF files are what contain the delta information to generate the 2nd eye view. If the player can't find these files, I guess it should play the video normally in 2D.



well thats the thing, I dont have that file, only VOB IFO and BUP and nothing else



it should be default normal view, but it defaults in 3D, as if it has a command within the Video TS file that adjusts for 2D, because there are no additional large files, so the entire movie contains apparently two streams of info, both within the same VOB files



and I dont know how to get it to display 2D

#9
Posted 10/15/2010 11:51 AM   
[quote name='almostinsane' post='1130731' date='Oct 14 2010, 04:03 PM']3D BLu-rays do not have VOB files. And the 3D Blu-ray will also play in 2D if you want. They are backwards compatible with non-3D BD players.[/quote]

thanks for the reply,

perhaps its a regional variable.

the region I am in often has different DVD's than what you find in North America or Europe

the DVD most certainly has VOB files, and it most certainly does have 3D or 2D selectable from the menu

the 3D is difficult to see, its red and blue and double or triple images, and impossible to watch without glasses

the 2D looks perfectly normal and beautiful, as any Blu-Ray DVD

but once its on my HDD, i no longer have menu control and all it does is play 3D, with no way to change to 2D

its quite strange



[quote name='BlackSharkfr' post='1130732' date='Oct 14 2010, 04:34 PM']I'm not sure if it will work but try renaming the folder containing the SSIF files (or delete it). The SSIF files are what contain the delta information to generate the 2nd eye view. If the player can't find these files, I guess it should play the video normally in 2D.[/quote]

well thats the thing, I dont have that file, only VOB IFO and BUP and nothing else

it should be default normal view, but it defaults in 3D, as if it has a command within the Video TS file that adjusts for 2D, because there are no additional large files, so the entire movie contains apparently two streams of info, both within the same VOB files

and I dont know how to get it to display 2D
[quote name='almostinsane' post='1130731' date='Oct 14 2010, 04:03 PM']3D BLu-rays do not have VOB files. And the 3D Blu-ray will also play in 2D if you want. They are backwards compatible with non-3D BD players.



thanks for the reply,



perhaps its a regional variable.



the region I am in often has different DVD's than what you find in North America or Europe



the DVD most certainly has VOB files, and it most certainly does have 3D or 2D selectable from the menu



the 3D is difficult to see, its red and blue and double or triple images, and impossible to watch without glasses



the 2D looks perfectly normal and beautiful, as any Blu-Ray DVD



but once its on my HDD, i no longer have menu control and all it does is play 3D, with no way to change to 2D



its quite strange







[quote name='BlackSharkfr' post='1130732' date='Oct 14 2010, 04:34 PM']I'm not sure if it will work but try renaming the folder containing the SSIF files (or delete it). The SSIF files are what contain the delta information to generate the 2nd eye view. If the player can't find these files, I guess it should play the video normally in 2D.



well thats the thing, I dont have that file, only VOB IFO and BUP and nothing else



it should be default normal view, but it defaults in 3D, as if it has a command within the Video TS file that adjusts for 2D, because there are no additional large files, so the entire movie contains apparently two streams of info, both within the same VOB files



and I dont know how to get it to display 2D

#10
Posted 10/15/2010 11:51 AM   
ok, nevermind.. i see what it is..

the movie has 8 VTS_02_* series files from 1 to 8

the 3D movie actually ends in the middle of the VTS_02_04 file, then replays in 2D

its an older movie remade and re-authored into 3D on BluRay

so i guess I have to split that one VOB in half, any suggestions on how to do that?

and will this make it unable to be played from the Video_TS file, even if i rename them all from 1 to 4?

thx
ok, nevermind.. i see what it is..



the movie has 8 VTS_02_* series files from 1 to 8



the 3D movie actually ends in the middle of the VTS_02_04 file, then replays in 2D



its an older movie remade and re-authored into 3D on BluRay



so i guess I have to split that one VOB in half, any suggestions on how to do that?



and will this make it unable to be played from the Video_TS file, even if i rename them all from 1 to 4?



thx

#11
Posted 10/15/2010 12:53 PM   
ok, nevermind.. i see what it is..

the movie has 8 VTS_02_* series files from 1 to 8

the 3D movie actually ends in the middle of the VTS_02_04 file, then replays in 2D

its an older movie remade and re-authored into 3D on BluRay

so i guess I have to split that one VOB in half, any suggestions on how to do that?

and will this make it unable to be played from the Video_TS file, even if i rename them all from 1 to 4?

thx
ok, nevermind.. i see what it is..



the movie has 8 VTS_02_* series files from 1 to 8



the 3D movie actually ends in the middle of the VTS_02_04 file, then replays in 2D



its an older movie remade and re-authored into 3D on BluRay



so i guess I have to split that one VOB in half, any suggestions on how to do that?



and will this make it unable to be played from the Video_TS file, even if i rename them all from 1 to 4?



thx

#12
Posted 10/15/2010 12:53 PM   
[quote name='1337assassin' post='1131111' date='Oct 15 2010, 01:51 PM']...the 3D is difficult to see, its red and blue and double or triple images, and impossible to watch without glasses...[/quote]

It sounds like you don't have a real 3D-Blu-Ray. It sounds like you got a standard Blu-Ray with an Anaglyph-Version(Red/Cyan or Green/Magenta) of this movie on it.
I had "Journey to the Center of Earth" here and there was one DVD with the 2D movie and another DVD with the 3D-Green/Magenta-Version. And the Green/Magenta-googles were in the box too.
Maybe the Blu-Ray has these two versions on one disc.

You can't simply rename or cut the vob-files because the cell-references in the *.ifo files won't match after.
You have to demux the video- and audio-streams , cut them and repack them to a new Blu-Ray-structure (This is the way you have to do for DVD's with some tools so I guess for Blu-Ray it would be similar).
But I don't know if there are those (freeware)tools allready available for Blu-Ray.

You can't access menus from your Media-HDD right? Then you might demux the streams from disc, cut them and mux them together as a simple TS-file(Transport-Stream) as used for HDTV on DVB-S2.
I made some HDTV recordings with my Satellite-receiver and this method worked to cut the recordings and make them able to be played again on the receiver.
[quote name='1337assassin' post='1131111' date='Oct 15 2010, 01:51 PM']...the 3D is difficult to see, its red and blue and double or triple images, and impossible to watch without glasses...



It sounds like you don't have a real 3D-Blu-Ray. It sounds like you got a standard Blu-Ray with an Anaglyph-Version(Red/Cyan or Green/Magenta) of this movie on it.

I had "Journey to the Center of Earth" here and there was one DVD with the 2D movie and another DVD with the 3D-Green/Magenta-Version. And the Green/Magenta-googles were in the box too.

Maybe the Blu-Ray has these two versions on one disc.



You can't simply rename or cut the vob-files because the cell-references in the *.ifo files won't match after.

You have to demux the video- and audio-streams , cut them and repack them to a new Blu-Ray-structure (This is the way you have to do for DVD's with some tools so I guess for Blu-Ray it would be similar).

But I don't know if there are those (freeware)tools allready available for Blu-Ray.



You can't access menus from your Media-HDD right? Then you might demux the streams from disc, cut them and mux them together as a simple TS-file(Transport-Stream) as used for HDTV on DVB-S2.

I made some HDTV recordings with my Satellite-receiver and this method worked to cut the recordings and make them able to be played again on the receiver.

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#13
Posted 10/15/2010 09:20 PM   
[quote name='1337assassin' post='1131111' date='Oct 15 2010, 01:51 PM']...the 3D is difficult to see, its red and blue and double or triple images, and impossible to watch without glasses...[/quote]

It sounds like you don't have a real 3D-Blu-Ray. It sounds like you got a standard Blu-Ray with an Anaglyph-Version(Red/Cyan or Green/Magenta) of this movie on it.
I had "Journey to the Center of Earth" here and there was one DVD with the 2D movie and another DVD with the 3D-Green/Magenta-Version. And the Green/Magenta-googles were in the box too.
Maybe the Blu-Ray has these two versions on one disc.

You can't simply rename or cut the vob-files because the cell-references in the *.ifo files won't match after.
You have to demux the video- and audio-streams , cut them and repack them to a new Blu-Ray-structure (This is the way you have to do for DVD's with some tools so I guess for Blu-Ray it would be similar).
But I don't know if there are those (freeware)tools allready available for Blu-Ray.

You can't access menus from your Media-HDD right? Then you might demux the streams from disc, cut them and mux them together as a simple TS-file(Transport-Stream) as used for HDTV on DVB-S2.
I made some HDTV recordings with my Satellite-receiver and this method worked to cut the recordings and make them able to be played again on the receiver.
[quote name='1337assassin' post='1131111' date='Oct 15 2010, 01:51 PM']...the 3D is difficult to see, its red and blue and double or triple images, and impossible to watch without glasses...



It sounds like you don't have a real 3D-Blu-Ray. It sounds like you got a standard Blu-Ray with an Anaglyph-Version(Red/Cyan or Green/Magenta) of this movie on it.

I had "Journey to the Center of Earth" here and there was one DVD with the 2D movie and another DVD with the 3D-Green/Magenta-Version. And the Green/Magenta-googles were in the box too.

Maybe the Blu-Ray has these two versions on one disc.



You can't simply rename or cut the vob-files because the cell-references in the *.ifo files won't match after.

You have to demux the video- and audio-streams , cut them and repack them to a new Blu-Ray-structure (This is the way you have to do for DVD's with some tools so I guess for Blu-Ray it would be similar).

But I don't know if there are those (freeware)tools allready available for Blu-Ray.



You can't access menus from your Media-HDD right? Then you might demux the streams from disc, cut them and mux them together as a simple TS-file(Transport-Stream) as used for HDTV on DVB-S2.

I made some HDTV recordings with my Satellite-receiver and this method worked to cut the recordings and make them able to be played again on the receiver.

Desktop-PC

i7 870 @ 3.8GHz + MSI GTX1070 Gaming X + 16GB RAM + Win10 64Bit Home + AW2310+3D-Vision

#14
Posted 10/15/2010 09:20 PM   
[quote name='Flint Eastwood' post='1131369' date='Oct 15 2010, 09:20 PM']It sounds like you don't have a real 3D-Blu-Ray. It sounds like you got a standard Blu-Ray with an Anaglyph-Version(Red/Cyan or Green/Magenta) of this movie on it.
I had "Journey to the Center of Earth" here and there was one DVD with the 2D movie and another DVD with the 3D-Green/Magenta-Version. And the Green/Magenta-googles were in the box too.
Maybe the Blu-Ray has these two versions on one disc.

You can't simply rename or cut the vob-files because the cell-references in the *.ifo files won't match after.
You have to demux the video- and audio-streams , cut them and repack them to a new Blu-Ray-structure (This is the way you have to do for DVD's with some tools so I guess for Blu-Ray it would be similar).
But I don't know if there are those (freeware)tools allready available for Blu-Ray.

You can't access menus from your Media-HDD right? Then you might demux the streams from disc, cut them and mux them together as a simple TS-file(Transport-Stream) as used for HDTV on DVB-S2.
I made some HDTV recordings with my Satellite-receiver and this method worked to cut the recordings and make them able to be played again on the receiver.[/quote]
ok, thanks

i think you are right about the DVD, it came with the glasses..

I have seen a number of 3D TV's, the glasses are sweet and the 3D is really awesome from any angle... i wonder if u need those to see a 'real 3d' bluray

I used DVDshrink to reauthor the movie, and the two separate movies were identified as two separate files with 2 separate names, even though they both shared the same VOB file

the program made a new 2D only movie without the 3D version , i could do it again to make a second 3D-only movie, the entire process was about as long as it takes to put the DVD files on the HDD anyway

but im wondering about this Demux thing.. why did you have to Demux DVB movies? what was that for?

and what is a "Simple TS-file(Transport-Stream) as used for HDTV on DVB-S2"? is that one single TS file? or is it just like the regular TS folder you get with DVDshrink by reauthoring?

I dont get the menu functionality when reauthoring with DVDshrink, though i do get all of the audio and subtitle streams i want.

how can I Demux and retain menu functionality? or is it just the menu file displayed as a video without functionality when you demux as well?

i thought TS files were limited to 1GB, so will some media players not be able to play a larger TS file?

and what was the final format after u demuxed? VOB?

Im having trouble with certain movies copied to my HDD from the Video_TS folder, and DVDshrink seems to fix that, getting rid of the several GB's of previews and other files, but loss of menus, I'd really like the menus intact when starting the VIDEO_TS file, if you know of any way

thanks for your help
[quote name='Flint Eastwood' post='1131369' date='Oct 15 2010, 09:20 PM']It sounds like you don't have a real 3D-Blu-Ray. It sounds like you got a standard Blu-Ray with an Anaglyph-Version(Red/Cyan or Green/Magenta) of this movie on it.

I had "Journey to the Center of Earth" here and there was one DVD with the 2D movie and another DVD with the 3D-Green/Magenta-Version. And the Green/Magenta-googles were in the box too.

Maybe the Blu-Ray has these two versions on one disc.



You can't simply rename or cut the vob-files because the cell-references in the *.ifo files won't match after.

You have to demux the video- and audio-streams , cut them and repack them to a new Blu-Ray-structure (This is the way you have to do for DVD's with some tools so I guess for Blu-Ray it would be similar).

But I don't know if there are those (freeware)tools allready available for Blu-Ray.



You can't access menus from your Media-HDD right? Then you might demux the streams from disc, cut them and mux them together as a simple TS-file(Transport-Stream) as used for HDTV on DVB-S2.

I made some HDTV recordings with my Satellite-receiver and this method worked to cut the recordings and make them able to be played again on the receiver.

ok, thanks



i think you are right about the DVD, it came with the glasses..



I have seen a number of 3D TV's, the glasses are sweet and the 3D is really awesome from any angle... i wonder if u need those to see a 'real 3d' bluray



I used DVDshrink to reauthor the movie, and the two separate movies were identified as two separate files with 2 separate names, even though they both shared the same VOB file



the program made a new 2D only movie without the 3D version , i could do it again to make a second 3D-only movie, the entire process was about as long as it takes to put the DVD files on the HDD anyway



but im wondering about this Demux thing.. why did you have to Demux DVB movies? what was that for?



and what is a "Simple TS-file(Transport-Stream) as used for HDTV on DVB-S2"? is that one single TS file? or is it just like the regular TS folder you get with DVDshrink by reauthoring?



I dont get the menu functionality when reauthoring with DVDshrink, though i do get all of the audio and subtitle streams i want.



how can I Demux and retain menu functionality? or is it just the menu file displayed as a video without functionality when you demux as well?



i thought TS files were limited to 1GB, so will some media players not be able to play a larger TS file?



and what was the final format after u demuxed? VOB?



Im having trouble with certain movies copied to my HDD from the Video_TS folder, and DVDshrink seems to fix that, getting rid of the several GB's of previews and other files, but loss of menus, I'd really like the menus intact when starting the VIDEO_TS file, if you know of any way



thanks for your help

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