BUG REPORT: 3D-Vision-Discover can't be enabled on Laptops! Nvidia - Please fix this!
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All you have to do is use the http://www.laptopvideo2go.com/ .inf with the Geforce driver instead of the Verde driver and bang you have Stereo 3D and all other pertinent things.
All you have to do is use the http://www.laptopvideo2go.com/ .inf with the Geforce driver instead of the Verde driver and bang you have Stereo 3D and all other pertinent things.
[quote name='Flint Eastwood' date='19 October 2011 - 09:17 PM' timestamp='1319051844' post='1310542']
Hi Andrew, lets face the truth for a moment.
This is only a marketing-strategy to sell more expensive 3D-ready laptops. There is no technical reason disabling Anaglyph-Mode.
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That's probably correct, but what part about Andrew's statement "the decision to remove 3D Vision discover from laptops was a request from OEMs" didn't you understand?
The notebook manufacturers decide what the driver can and can't do. Remember, not long ago nVidia wasn't even allowed to provide drivers for notebooks directly.
nVidia has no interests whatsoever to restrict the functionality of existing notebooks. Notebook vendors do, however.
So you're barking up the wrong tree. It's just as simple as that.
This is only a marketing-strategy to sell more expensive 3D-ready laptops. There is no technical reason disabling Anaglyph-Mode.
That's probably correct, but what part about Andrew's statement "the decision to remove 3D Vision discover from laptops was a request from OEMs" didn't you understand?
The notebook manufacturers decide what the driver can and can't do. Remember, not long ago nVidia wasn't even allowed to provide drivers for notebooks directly.
nVidia has no interests whatsoever to restrict the functionality of existing notebooks. Notebook vendors do, however.
So you're barking up the wrong tree. It's just as simple as that.
I created this thread on MSI forum [url="http://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=153374.0"]http://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=153374.0[/url], all MSI laptop owners come and help to persuade MSI to allow fixing this! ;-)
Flint, I tried your solution, but only with bare wires, I got the driver fooled, but couldn`t force 1920x1080 resolution, and it may think my fake display is not suitable for 3d vision discover, because stereoscopic 3D settings do not appear in control panel. With real external display it does. Do you think I can get better results with 75 ohm resistors?
I installed 280.26 driver for desktops with laptopvideo2go.com .inf, but even this driver hides stereoscopic 3D setting when external display is not plugged in.
Andrew, what if nvidia secretly released an unofficial driver supporting anaglyph for laptops displays to keep its customers loyal? is it very mad idea? :-)
Flint, I tried your solution, but only with bare wires, I got the driver fooled, but couldn`t force 1920x1080 resolution, and it may think my fake display is not suitable for 3d vision discover, because stereoscopic 3D settings do not appear in control panel. With real external display it does. Do you think I can get better results with 75 ohm resistors?
I installed 280.26 driver for desktops with laptopvideo2go.com .inf, but even this driver hides stereoscopic 3D setting when external display is not plugged in.
Andrew, what if nvidia secretly released an unofficial driver supporting anaglyph for laptops displays to keep its customers loyal? is it very mad idea? :-)
[quote name='Majeq' date='23 October 2011 - 03:33 PM' timestamp='1319376818' post='1312360']Flint, I tried your solution, but only with bare wires, I got the driver fooled, but couldn`t force 1920x1080 resolution, and it may think my fake display is not suitable for 3d vision discover, because stereoscopic 3D settings do not appear in control panel. With real external display it does. Do you think I can get better results with 75 ohm resistors?[/quote]
If it shows you an analog display in the nvidia-control-center it should work.
But maybe Nvidia allready disabled this trick by reading some more info from the display (Maybe EDID data). I have to try myself with my adapter.
Maybe you can try an older driver just for testing? v195.81 was the last one I was using. Since I own the 3D-Vision-kit I never tried the dummy-solution.
BUT DO YOUR GRAPHICS-BOARD A FAVOUR:
Dont shortcut the Analog-Signals to Ground with BARE WIRES. Hopefully you didn't kill them allready. Please use the 75ohm resistors as they pull down the analog-video-signals to the correct voltage-niveau. With bare wires you pull them down to zero - that could kill the output-electronics.
[quote name='Majeq' date='23 October 2011 - 03:33 PM' timestamp='1319376818' post='1312360']Flint, I tried your solution, but only with bare wires, I got the driver fooled, but couldn`t force 1920x1080 resolution, and it may think my fake display is not suitable for 3d vision discover, because stereoscopic 3D settings do not appear in control panel. With real external display it does. Do you think I can get better results with 75 ohm resistors?
If it shows you an analog display in the nvidia-control-center it should work.
But maybe Nvidia allready disabled this trick by reading some more info from the display (Maybe EDID data). I have to try myself with my adapter.
Maybe you can try an older driver just for testing? v195.81 was the last one I was using. Since I own the 3D-Vision-kit I never tried the dummy-solution.
BUT DO YOUR GRAPHICS-BOARD A FAVOUR:
Dont shortcut the Analog-Signals to Ground with BARE WIRES. Hopefully you didn't kill them allready. Please use the 75ohm resistors as they pull down the analog-video-signals to the correct voltage-niveau. With bare wires you pull them down to zero - that could kill the output-electronics.
Desktop-PC
i7 870 @ 3.8GHz + MSI GTX1070 Gaming X + 16GB RAM + Win10 64Bit Home + AW2310+3D-Vision
I found my mistake. Even when I set the same view for both displays, driver recognizes primary and secondary display. By default laptops display is primary. When I set the fake display as primary, driver finally gets fooled :-).
I disassembled all my RC toys and haven`t found any 75 ohm resistors, so I had to try with bare wires. Now, when I know it works, I`ll buy resistors.
Thanks a lot for sharing this great trick.
I found my mistake. Even when I set the same view for both displays, driver recognizes primary and secondary display. By default laptops display is primary. When I set the fake display as primary, driver finally gets fooled :-).
I disassembled all my RC toys and haven`t found any 75 ohm resistors, so I had to try with bare wires. Now, when I know it works, I`ll buy resistors.
[quote name='Majeq' date='24 October 2011 - 05:28 PM' timestamp='1319470084' post='1313037']By default laptops display is primary. When I set the fake display as primary, driver finally gets fooled :-)[/quote]
Of course you have to set the dummy as primary. I wrote it in the first post, but it's hard to find - shame on me. /blush.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':blush:' />
Maybe resistors from 50 - 100 ohms would do the trick too - any resistor is better as a bare wire - but 75ohm will be the correct size.
[quote name='Majeq' date='24 October 2011 - 05:28 PM' timestamp='1319470084' post='1313037']By default laptops display is primary. When I set the fake display as primary, driver finally gets fooled :-)
Of course you have to set the dummy as primary. I wrote it in the first post, but it's hard to find - shame on me. /blush.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':blush:' />
Maybe resistors from 50 - 100 ohms would do the trick too - any resistor is better as a bare wire - but 75ohm will be the correct size.
Desktop-PC
i7 870 @ 3.8GHz + MSI GTX1070 Gaming X + 16GB RAM + Win10 64Bit Home + AW2310+3D-Vision
After reading that I thought I may have been misled by advertising saying it was compatible, but on further reading Nvidia 3D Vision is compatible with laptops, as long as the graphics card is sufficient and the monitor is a proper 3D one that can run at up to 120Hz. However there appears to be many installation problems of Nvidia software and it occurs amongst many different laptops and monitors. But as long as it’s 3D Vision stereoscopic, using shutter glasses, it is meant to be compatible, so hopefully Nvidia will provide a solution for the thousands of people experiencing this problem. The ones that aren’t supported on laptops use a totally different means of achieving 3D it’s called Nvida 3D Vision ‘Discover’ which uses anaglyph (red/green) glasses instead of shutter glasses. The shutter glasses have wide compatibility with many tvs as well as pc and normal screen laptops via separate 3D monitors that are 120Hz as well as some laptops with 3D screens built in.
After reading that I thought I may have been misled by advertising saying it was compatible, but on further reading Nvidia 3D Vision is compatible with laptops, as long as the graphics card is sufficient and the monitor is a proper 3D one that can run at up to 120Hz. However there appears to be many installation problems of Nvidia software and it occurs amongst many different laptops and monitors. But as long as it’s 3D Vision stereoscopic, using shutter glasses, it is meant to be compatible, so hopefully Nvidia will provide a solution for the thousands of people experiencing this problem. The ones that aren’t supported on laptops use a totally different means of achieving 3D it’s called Nvida 3D Vision ‘Discover’ which uses anaglyph (red/green) glasses instead of shutter glasses. The shutter glasses have wide compatibility with many tvs as well as pc and normal screen laptops via separate 3D monitors that are 120Hz as well as some laptops with 3D screens built in.
I have simple solution. In screen resolution settings click detect. there are two more displays (another display not detected on both), click on one of them and from Multiple displays menu select Try to connect anyway on: VGA. Apply, and from Multiple displays menu select Duplicate and Apply.
Now you have to connect to this display in duplicate mode by fn key.
And that's it
I have simple solution. In screen resolution settings click detect. there are two more displays (another display not detected on both), click on one of them and from Multiple displays menu select Try to connect anyway on: VGA. Apply, and from Multiple displays menu select Duplicate and Apply.
Now you have to connect to this display in duplicate mode by fn key.
Trick with detecting more displays is not working for me, tried even trick with resistors( I have found only 470 Ohm at home) is not working either, thought it showed that another monitor is pluged in. Why are they prohibiting us from testing anaglyph mode? Because there would be chance that when people try it out they might actually buy reall 3D solution.
Trick with detecting more displays is not working for me, tried even trick with resistors( I have found only 470 Ohm at home) is not working either, thought it showed that another monitor is pluged in. Why are they prohibiting us from testing anaglyph mode? Because there would be chance that when people try it out they might actually buy reall 3D solution.
Hi Andrew, lets face the truth for a moment.
This is only a marketing-strategy to sell more expensive 3D-ready laptops. There is no technical reason disabling Anaglyph-Mode.
[/quote]
That's probably correct, but what part about Andrew's statement "the decision to remove 3D Vision discover from laptops was a request from OEMs" didn't you understand?
The notebook manufacturers decide what the driver can and can't do. Remember, not long ago nVidia wasn't even allowed to provide drivers for notebooks directly.
nVidia has no interests whatsoever to restrict the functionality of existing notebooks. Notebook vendors do, however.
So you're barking up the wrong tree. It's just as simple as that.
Hi Andrew, lets face the truth for a moment.
This is only a marketing-strategy to sell more expensive 3D-ready laptops. There is no technical reason disabling Anaglyph-Mode.
That's probably correct, but what part about Andrew's statement "the decision to remove 3D Vision discover from laptops was a request from OEMs" didn't you understand?
The notebook manufacturers decide what the driver can and can't do. Remember, not long ago nVidia wasn't even allowed to provide drivers for notebooks directly.
nVidia has no interests whatsoever to restrict the functionality of existing notebooks. Notebook vendors do, however.
So you're barking up the wrong tree. It's just as simple as that.
Flint, I tried your solution, but only with bare wires, I got the driver fooled, but couldn`t force 1920x1080 resolution, and it may think my fake display is not suitable for 3d vision discover, because stereoscopic 3D settings do not appear in control panel. With real external display it does. Do you think I can get better results with 75 ohm resistors?
I installed 280.26 driver for desktops with laptopvideo2go.com .inf, but even this driver hides stereoscopic 3D setting when external display is not plugged in.
Andrew, what if nvidia secretly released an unofficial driver supporting anaglyph for laptops displays to keep its customers loyal? is it very mad idea? :-)
Flint, I tried your solution, but only with bare wires, I got the driver fooled, but couldn`t force 1920x1080 resolution, and it may think my fake display is not suitable for 3d vision discover, because stereoscopic 3D settings do not appear in control panel. With real external display it does. Do you think I can get better results with 75 ohm resistors?
I installed 280.26 driver for desktops with laptopvideo2go.com .inf, but even this driver hides stereoscopic 3D setting when external display is not plugged in.
Andrew, what if nvidia secretly released an unofficial driver supporting anaglyph for laptops displays to keep its customers loyal? is it very mad idea? :-)
If it shows you an analog display in the nvidia-control-center it should work.
But maybe Nvidia allready disabled this trick by reading some more info from the display (Maybe EDID data). I have to try myself with my adapter.
Maybe you can try an older driver just for testing? v195.81 was the last one I was using. Since I own the 3D-Vision-kit I never tried the dummy-solution.
BUT DO YOUR GRAPHICS-BOARD A FAVOUR:
Dont shortcut the Analog-Signals to Ground with BARE WIRES. Hopefully you didn't kill them allready. Please use the 75ohm resistors as they pull down the analog-video-signals to the correct voltage-niveau. With bare wires you pull them down to zero - that could kill the output-electronics.
If it shows you an analog display in the nvidia-control-center it should work.
But maybe Nvidia allready disabled this trick by reading some more info from the display (Maybe EDID data). I have to try myself with my adapter.
Maybe you can try an older driver just for testing? v195.81 was the last one I was using. Since I own the 3D-Vision-kit I never tried the dummy-solution.
BUT DO YOUR GRAPHICS-BOARD A FAVOUR:
Dont shortcut the Analog-Signals to Ground with BARE WIRES. Hopefully you didn't kill them allready. Please use the 75ohm resistors as they pull down the analog-video-signals to the correct voltage-niveau. With bare wires you pull them down to zero - that could kill the output-electronics.
Desktop-PC
i7 870 @ 3.8GHz + MSI GTX1070 Gaming X + 16GB RAM + Win10 64Bit Home + AW2310+3D-Vision
I disassembled all my RC toys and haven`t found any 75 ohm resistors, so I had to try with bare wires. Now, when I know it works, I`ll buy resistors.
Thanks a lot for sharing this great trick.
I disassembled all my RC toys and haven`t found any 75 ohm resistors, so I had to try with bare wires. Now, when I know it works, I`ll buy resistors.
Thanks a lot for sharing this great trick.
Of course you have to set the dummy as primary. I wrote it in the first post, but it's hard to find - shame on me.
Maybe resistors from 50 - 100 ohms would do the trick too - any resistor is better as a bare wire - but 75ohm will be the correct size.
Of course you have to set the dummy as primary. I wrote it in the first post, but it's hard to find - shame on me.
Maybe resistors from 50 - 100 ohms would do the trick too - any resistor is better as a bare wire - but 75ohm will be the correct size.
Desktop-PC
i7 870 @ 3.8GHz + MSI GTX1070 Gaming X + 16GB RAM + Win10 64Bit Home + AW2310+3D-Vision
http://store.nvidia.com/store/nvidia/en_US/pd/productID.148411500
http://3dvision-blog.com/nvidia-3d-vision-discover-glasses/
http://www.nvidia.co.uk/object/buy-3d-glasses-uk.html
http://store.nvidia.com/store/nvidia/en_US/pd/productID.148411500
http://3dvision-blog.com/nvidia-3d-vision-discover-glasses/
http://www.nvidia.co.uk/object/buy-3d-glasses-uk.html
Now you have to connect to this display in duplicate mode by fn key.
And that's it