3D Vision driver support for Passive interlaced LG 3D Cinema TV
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[quote name='roller11' date='15 November 2011 - 07:54 PM' timestamp='1321386870' post='1327122']
So when you're proven wrong, all you can do is hurl insults? That's it?? Where's your comeback? Or is your lack of any disagreement an admission that my statement is 100% correct?
You're right about one thing...I will always point out your attempts to deceive people.
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People can you please ignore this idiot, dribble dribble dribble, that will be the last message i wil se from you as again your posts make my eyes bleed, what a total idiot you are man!
As many of us know, i have just proven you wrong, you may not accept it but do we care, hell no cos your an idiot!
And i give insults because of your attitude and stupidity, you do not see what is before your own eyes, you just see what you make up in your head!
[quote name='roller11' date='15 November 2011 - 07:54 PM' timestamp='1321386870' post='1327122']
So when you're proven wrong, all you can do is hurl insults? That's it?? Where's your comeback? Or is your lack of any disagreement an admission that my statement is 100% correct?
You're right about one thing...I will always point out your attempts to deceive people.
People can you please ignore this idiot, dribble dribble dribble, that will be the last message i wil se from you as again your posts make my eyes bleed, what a total idiot you are man!
As many of us know, i have just proven you wrong, you may not accept it but do we care, hell no cos your an idiot!
And i give insults because of your attitude and stupidity, you do not see what is before your own eyes, you just see what you make up in your head!
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[quote name='mocca' date='15 November 2011 - 02:13 PM' timestamp='1321391617' post='1327171']
i have just proven you wrong,[/quote]
How so? What did I say that was "wrong"? Provide post number and quote, or don't and admit defeat.
This is typical of your posts. You can't find any inaccuracy in my statements so you falsely acuse me of being wrong without reference. All you do is engage in name calling like a five year old.
[quote name='mocca' date='15 November 2011 - 02:13 PM' timestamp='1321391617' post='1327171']
i have just proven you wrong,
How so? What did I say that was "wrong"? Provide post number and quote, or don't and admit defeat.
This is typical of your posts. You can't find any inaccuracy in my statements so you falsely acuse me of being wrong without reference. All you do is engage in name calling like a five year old.
roller11, Mocca proved you wrong in that he gave you an example where nVidia provides interleaved S3D support, which you claimed didn't exist. It doesn't matter that you think that the monitor this solution has been made for is crap, it's still proves that there is interlaced S3D support.
roller11, Mocca proved you wrong in that he gave you an example where nVidia provides interleaved S3D support, which you claimed didn't exist. It doesn't matter that you think that the monitor this solution has been made for is crap, it's still proves that there is interlaced S3D support.
[quote name='Grestorn' date='15 November 2011 - 10:39 PM' timestamp='1321425591' post='1327414']
Oh god... can you please stop that?
roller11, Mocca proved you wrong in that he gave you an example where nVidia provides interlaces S3D support, which you claimed didn't exist. It doesn't matter that you think that the monitor this solution has been made for is crap, it's still prove that there is interlaced S3D support.
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Lol at the flame war. Both of you are great additions to this community and both of you seem to know your ****. So let it go and get along would ya!
[quote name='Grestorn' date='15 November 2011 - 10:39 PM' timestamp='1321425591' post='1327414']
Oh god... can you please stop that?
roller11, Mocca proved you wrong in that he gave you an example where nVidia provides interlaces S3D support, which you claimed didn't exist. It doesn't matter that you think that the monitor this solution has been made for is crap, it's still prove that there is interlaced S3D support.
Lol at the flame war. Both of you are great additions to this community and both of you seem to know your ****. So let it go and get along would ya!
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[quote name='damienlabonte' date='16 November 2011 - 08:00 AM' timestamp='1321426833' post='1327430']
Lol at the flame war. Both of you are great additions to this community and both of you seem to know your ****. So let it go and get along would ya!
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[quote name='roller11' date='15 November 2011 - 11:47 PM' timestamp='1321400868' post='1327255']
How so? What did I say that was "wrong"? Provide post number and quote, or don't and admit defeat.
This is typical of your posts. You can't find any inaccuracy in my statements so you falsely acuse me of being wrong without reference. All you do is engage in name calling like a five year old.
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I'll try not reply to you again, had to unblock you to see that silly post, get a grip man!
That was another stupid remark from you that has just backfired!
No name calling, just truths, you are infact the worrst idiot i have ever met on the internet, in all my years you are the only person i have ever blocked!!!
This link proves how innacurate you are, we all know but you do'nt and can't accept it so carry on talking rubbish, in the real world these people are known as idiots, there people to aviod, sadly you are an idiot and till you accept that you will never move on tobe a sound guy, will stay and idiot for ever!
Oh man you just suprise me more and more, if you are a special person with learning difficultys then i am very sorry for calling you a idiot but i believe your just a normal idiot!
Just let me know as i would hate tobe calling a retard a idiot as it would'nt be your fault!
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mocca, on 14 November 2011 - 02:39 PM, said:
I have sold my lg now and have gotten a toshiba passive of same size and i now have perfectly working interleaved 3d with no colourbug and no edid mods ect, it just works like it should.
[size="6"]Nvidia doesn't support interleaved so this is of no interest. We need checkerboard with no colorbug.[/size]
And just for the fun off it to and just for my pleasure here is more solid proof that proves you are a total idiot!!
LOOK AT THE INCLUDED PIC!!!
Now i allready know you will likely still not see what's in front of your eyes and still admit your correct, i and everybody else look forward to your next reply, so much so i have unblocked you especially for this coming event!
[quote name='roller11' date='15 November 2011 - 11:47 PM' timestamp='1321400868' post='1327255']
How so? What did I say that was "wrong"? Provide post number and quote, or don't and admit defeat.
This is typical of your posts. You can't find any inaccuracy in my statements so you falsely acuse me of being wrong without reference. All you do is engage in name calling like a five year old.
I'll try not reply to you again, had to unblock you to see that silly post, get a grip man!
That was another stupid remark from you that has just backfired!
No name calling, just truths, you are infact the worrst idiot i have ever met on the internet, in all my years you are the only person i have ever blocked!!!
This link proves how innacurate you are, we all know but you do'nt and can't accept it so carry on talking rubbish, in the real world these people are known as idiots, there people to aviod, sadly you are an idiot and till you accept that you will never move on tobe a sound guy, will stay and idiot for ever!
Oh man you just suprise me more and more, if you are a special person with learning difficultys then i am very sorry for calling you a idiot but i believe your just a normal idiot!
Just let me know as i would hate tobe calling a retard a idiot as it would'nt be your fault!
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mocca, on 14 November 2011 - 02:39 PM, said:
I have sold my lg now and have gotten a toshiba passive of same size and i now have perfectly working interleaved 3d with no colourbug and no edid mods ect, it just works like it should.
Nvidia doesn't support interleaved so this is of no interest. We need checkerboard with no colorbug.
And just for the fun off it to and just for my pleasure here is more solid proof that proves you are a total idiot!!
LOOK AT THE INCLUDED PIC!!!
Now i allready know you will likely still not see what's in front of your eyes and still admit your correct, i and everybody else look forward to your next reply, so much so i have unblocked you especially for this coming event!
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[quote name='mocca' date='16 November 2011 - 03:47 AM' timestamp='1321440460' post='1327516']
Now i allready know you will likely still not see what's in front of your eyes and still admit your correct, i and everybody else look forward to your next reply, so much so i have unblocked you especially for this coming event!
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When I said "it doesn't support interleaved support" of course that was in the context of 3D gaming on a full sized display. Whether or not it's possible to 3D game with degraded images on a tiny computer monitor using interleaved is a moot point, nobody would ever want to do this. So this doesn't count as wrongness.
You felt the need to show everybody how smart you are by figuring out a way to invoke interleaved mode to achieve an inferior, degraded, expensive 3D gaming experience. That struck me as amusing, but very typical of how your brain works.
[quote name='mocca' date='16 November 2011 - 03:47 AM' timestamp='1321440460' post='1327516']
Now i allready know you will likely still not see what's in front of your eyes and still admit your correct, i and everybody else look forward to your next reply, so much so i have unblocked you especially for this coming event!
When I said "it doesn't support interleaved support" of course that was in the context of 3D gaming on a full sized display. Whether or not it's possible to 3D game with degraded images on a tiny computer monitor using interleaved is a moot point, nobody would ever want to do this. So this doesn't count as wrongness.
You felt the need to show everybody how smart you are by figuring out a way to invoke interleaved mode to achieve an inferior, degraded, expensive 3D gaming experience. That struck me as amusing, but very typical of how your brain works.
[quote name='roller11' date='16 November 2011 - 04:07 PM' timestamp='1321459669' post='1327652']
When I said "it doesn't support interleaved support" of course that was in the context of 3D gaming on a full sized display. Whether or not it's possible to 3D game with degraded images on a tiny computer monitor using interleaved is a moot point, nobody would ever want to do this. So this doesn't count as wrongness.
You felt the need to show everybody how smart you are by figuring out a way to invoke interleaved mode to achieve an inferior, degraded, expensive 3D gaming experience. That struck me as amusing, but very typical of how your brain works.
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Yeah yeah, " when you said "!
And there it is, you just cannot accept being wrong/not knowing so you say " when i said " what i really meant "
Get a grip!!
how can you say nobody would ever want to play on a tiny passsive monitor, i think again you will find your incorrect as there are people using these monitors for 3d and they are enjoying themselfs, just because you can't enjoy yourself with a tech does'nt mean nobody else can, the world does not evolve around you!
That was'nmt worth the effort so back in my block list you go, 6 years on the internet and you are the only person i have blocked ever!
What an idiot you are!!!!
I suppose i could say why in the hell would you want checkerboard! when you have 120hz 1080p 3d, this is what your saying about interleaved.
[quote]Checkerboard. Many DLP 3D Ready televisions (not projectors) accept what is called the checkerboard format. In this format, the two images for left and right eye are interleaved, with every other pixel going to the opposite eye. Look at an actual checkerboard and pretend the squares are pixels. The black squares would go to the left eye, while the red squares would go to the right eye. The television separates the two interleaved images and displays them sequentially. The resulting images are [u]half-resolution[/u][/quote]
But i won't because i am not like you!
I could spend all day correcting you but at the end of the day i done my part, i proved it with links and facts and you change your story to " when i said "
I now no longer have any need to reply to or view any of your posts as you are just spouting more and more rubbish to try and cover your tracks when all you had todo was the same as any normal person would of done and said something constructive.
And as i'll not be reading your posts anymore i'll just piopnt out that yes my spelling is bad so if you piont that out which i can see coming next then you really are a loser but iu doubt you will now i've just said that as you have been shamed.
No sorry you have'nt been shamed, you shame yourself, your embarressing.
[quote]You felt the need to show everybody how smart you are by figuring out a way to invoke interleaved mode to achieve an inferior, degraded, expensive 3D gaming experience. That struck me as amusing, but very typical of how your brain works.
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I felt the need to show you, this has nothing todo with anybody else but you! i do'nt need to sound my own trumpet.
You will find you incoorect there aswell, as me and many others know.
I allso mentioned in a earlier post that anybody can make a edid mod so your nothing special, that is what you call modesty, does the word " anybody " mean anything to you, i am an anybody, you are an anoybody, everybody is a anybody!
I make no claims that i'm special or brainy, and infact what is wrote just above this is testament to that.
You accuse me of something you may be guilty for? so you think every1 else thinks the same way, well we do'nt, it's just you and you only.You came here to this forum and spread the info about checkerboard on any 3dtv using 3dvision, you have just accussed me of showing something in a post to make myself look brainy that you have as a thread??
You obviously need to let every1 know how brainy you are by way of your checkerboard edid and how you invoked checkerboard, as you have just accused me off this..
So, did you post the checkerboard mod thread to show everybody how brainy you was or did you post it for the good of the community, you have me confused.
I have not once showed anything in this thread to make myself look brainy ect, i have just proved beyond a shadow of a doubt your an idiot and you do'nt like it.
I am open to the fact that i do'nt like you and think your an idiot, this comes from pm attitude and forum attitude!
And as such i am rude to you and only you.
[quote name='roller11' date='16 November 2011 - 04:07 PM' timestamp='1321459669' post='1327652']
When I said "it doesn't support interleaved support" of course that was in the context of 3D gaming on a full sized display. Whether or not it's possible to 3D game with degraded images on a tiny computer monitor using interleaved is a moot point, nobody would ever want to do this. So this doesn't count as wrongness.
You felt the need to show everybody how smart you are by figuring out a way to invoke interleaved mode to achieve an inferior, degraded, expensive 3D gaming experience. That struck me as amusing, but very typical of how your brain works.
Yeah yeah, " when you said "!
And there it is, you just cannot accept being wrong/not knowing so you say " when i said " what i really meant "
Get a grip!!
how can you say nobody would ever want to play on a tiny passsive monitor, i think again you will find your incorrect as there are people using these monitors for 3d and they are enjoying themselfs, just because you can't enjoy yourself with a tech does'nt mean nobody else can, the world does not evolve around you!
That was'nmt worth the effort so back in my block list you go, 6 years on the internet and you are the only person i have blocked ever!
What an idiot you are!!!!
I suppose i could say why in the hell would you want checkerboard! when you have 120hz 1080p 3d, this is what your saying about interleaved.
Checkerboard. Many DLP 3D Ready televisions (not projectors) accept what is called the checkerboard format. In this format, the two images for left and right eye are interleaved, with every other pixel going to the opposite eye. Look at an actual checkerboard and pretend the squares are pixels. The black squares would go to the left eye, while the red squares would go to the right eye. The television separates the two interleaved images and displays them sequentially. The resulting images are half-resolution
But i won't because i am not like you!
I could spend all day correcting you but at the end of the day i done my part, i proved it with links and facts and you change your story to " when i said "
I now no longer have any need to reply to or view any of your posts as you are just spouting more and more rubbish to try and cover your tracks when all you had todo was the same as any normal person would of done and said something constructive.
And as i'll not be reading your posts anymore i'll just piopnt out that yes my spelling is bad so if you piont that out which i can see coming next then you really are a loser but iu doubt you will now i've just said that as you have been shamed.
No sorry you have'nt been shamed, you shame yourself, your embarressing.
You felt the need to show everybody how smart you are by figuring out a way to invoke interleaved mode to achieve an inferior, degraded, expensive 3D gaming experience. That struck me as amusing, but very typical of how your brain works.
I felt the need to show you, this has nothing todo with anybody else but you! i do'nt need to sound my own trumpet.
You will find you incoorect there aswell, as me and many others know.
I allso mentioned in a earlier post that anybody can make a edid mod so your nothing special, that is what you call modesty, does the word " anybody " mean anything to you, i am an anybody, you are an anoybody, everybody is a anybody!
I make no claims that i'm special or brainy, and infact what is wrote just above this is testament to that.
You accuse me of something you may be guilty for? so you think every1 else thinks the same way, well we do'nt, it's just you and you only.You came here to this forum and spread the info about checkerboard on any 3dtv using 3dvision, you have just accussed me of showing something in a post to make myself look brainy that you have as a thread??
You obviously need to let every1 know how brainy you are by way of your checkerboard edid and how you invoked checkerboard, as you have just accused me off this..
So, did you post the checkerboard mod thread to show everybody how brainy you was or did you post it for the good of the community, you have me confused.
I have not once showed anything in this thread to make myself look brainy ect, i have just proved beyond a shadow of a doubt your an idiot and you do'nt like it.
I am open to the fact that i do'nt like you and think your an idiot, this comes from pm attitude and forum attitude!
And as such i am rude to you and only you.
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[quote name='mocca' date='16 November 2011 - 09:28 AM' timestamp='1321460881' post='1327665']
Yeah yeah, " when you said "!
And there it is, you just cannot accept being wrong/not knowing so you say " when i said " what i really meant "
Get a grip!![/quote]
There was no need to state the obvious, that degraded modes don't count, it was assumed. I don't need to enumerate any exception that makes no sense.
[quote]how can you say nobody would ever want to play on a tiny passsive monitor,[/quote]
Another deceitful half truth/ lie. I said that nobody would want to play on a monitor in interleaved mode when superior frame sequential mode is available and for a lesser cost. that makes your brilliant 'interleaved' discovery worthless which was the only point of my response.
[quote]I suppose i could say why in the hell would you want checkerboard! when you have 120hz 1080p 3d, this is what your saying about interleaved.[/quote]
Because we DON"T have 1920x1080 per eye, 60 frames per second on a 3DTV. Checkerboard is the next best thing, a very good native resolution substitute until we get 1920x1080 per eye/ 60 fps in frame sequential mode.
The crucial difference between my checkerboard and your interleaved is that CB dramatically improves gaming, your interleaved degrades gaming.
[quote]You accuse me of something you may be guilty for?[/quote]
All I've ever accused you of is your shocking lack of maturity, your propensity to go on a name calling, insult hurling rant whenever you don't like what I say. You can't find any inaccuracy in my post so you just start hurling groundless insults and false accusations.
[quote] did you post the checkerboard mod thread to show everybody how brainy you was or did you post it for the good of the community, [/quote]
I posted my .inf file strictly for the good of the community, so that others would be free from the grotesque images of 3DTV Play. My motivation was wanting others to not make the same mistake I did in Nov. 2010, buying a non-checkerboard TV based on nvidia's claim that no HDTVs can do checkerboard gaming. At the time I posted (Jan. 20,2011), nobody in this forum knew how to achieve checkerboard mode except Nobsi, he was my inspiration. CB mode is such a dramatic improvement, why would I not want others to benefit? All I did was take Nobsi's great work one step further, eliminate the need for a seperate piece of hardware, the DVI detective. I've always credited Nobsi with being the genius here.
[quote name='mocca' date='16 November 2011 - 09:28 AM' timestamp='1321460881' post='1327665']
Yeah yeah, " when you said "!
And there it is, you just cannot accept being wrong/not knowing so you say " when i said " what i really meant "
Get a grip!!
There was no need to state the obvious, that degraded modes don't count, it was assumed. I don't need to enumerate any exception that makes no sense.
how can you say nobody would ever want to play on a tiny passsive monitor,
Another deceitful half truth/ lie. I said that nobody would want to play on a monitor in interleaved mode when superior frame sequential mode is available and for a lesser cost. that makes your brilliant 'interleaved' discovery worthless which was the only point of my response.
I suppose i could say why in the hell would you want checkerboard! when you have 120hz 1080p 3d, this is what your saying about interleaved.
Because we DON"T have 1920x1080 per eye, 60 frames per second on a 3DTV. Checkerboard is the next best thing, a very good native resolution substitute until we get 1920x1080 per eye/ 60 fps in frame sequential mode.
The crucial difference between my checkerboard and your interleaved is that CB dramatically improves gaming, your interleaved degrades gaming.
You accuse me of something you may be guilty for?
All I've ever accused you of is your shocking lack of maturity, your propensity to go on a name calling, insult hurling rant whenever you don't like what I say. You can't find any inaccuracy in my post so you just start hurling groundless insults and false accusations.
did you post the checkerboard mod thread to show everybody how brainy you was or did you post it for the good of the community,
I posted my .inf file strictly for the good of the community, so that others would be free from the grotesque images of 3DTV Play. My motivation was wanting others to not make the same mistake I did in Nov. 2010, buying a non-checkerboard TV based on nvidia's claim that no HDTVs can do checkerboard gaming. At the time I posted (Jan. 20,2011), nobody in this forum knew how to achieve checkerboard mode except Nobsi, he was my inspiration. CB mode is such a dramatic improvement, why would I not want others to benefit? All I did was take Nobsi's great work one step further, eliminate the need for a seperate piece of hardware, the DVI detective. I've always credited Nobsi with being the genius here.
[quote name='roller11' date='16 November 2011 - 06:49 PM' timestamp='1321469340' post='1327750']
There was no need to state the obvious, that degraded modes don't count, it was assumed. I don't need to enumerate any exception that makes no sense.
Another deceitful half truth/ lie. I said that nobody would want to play on a monitor in interleaved mode when superior frame sequential mode is available and for a lesser cost. that makes your brilliant 'interleaved' discovery worthless which was the only point of my response.
Because we DON"T have 1920x1080 per eye, 60 frames per second on a 3DTV. Checkerboard is the next best thing, a very good native resolution substitute until we get 1920x1080 per eye/ 60 fps in frame sequential mode.
The crucial difference between my checkerboard and your interleaved is that CB dramatically improves gaming, your interleaved degrades gaming.
All I've ever accused you of is your shocking lack of maturity, your propensity to go on a name calling, insult hurling rant whenever you don't like what I say. You can't find any inaccuracy in my post so you just start hurling groundless insults and false accusations.
I posted my .inf file strictly for the good of the community, so that others would be free from the grotesque images of 3DTV Play. My motivation was wanting others to not make the same mistake I did in Nov. 2010, buying a non-checkerboard TV based on nvidia's claim that no HDTVs can do checkerboard gaming. At the time I posted (Jan. 20,2011), nobody in this forum knew how to achieve checkerboard mode except Nobsi, he was my inspiration. CB mode is such a dramatic improvement, why would I not want others to benefit? All I did was take Nobsi's great work one step further, eliminate the need for a seperate piece of hardware, the DVI detective. I've always credited Nobsi with being the genius here.
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Well i posted my findings for the good of the community aswell , i never once have i mentioned anything in this post or any other on this forum about anything else, how did you not know i did'nt get that pic from the internet?
You mention that checkerboard is the best you can get, well interleaved is the best we can get, allso both 3d methods are half res and interleaved, the only real difference is interleaved 3d gaming is better than checkerboard gaming as interleaved has no lag, checkerboard and all other 3d modes on 3dtv's have lag as the 3d is being proccessed by the tv which adds lag.
Lets not forget something here.
[u]3dvision does not work with 3dtv's, yes it works with mit's ect but we know 3dvision does not work on hdmi 1.4 displays!
That is a fact
But..
With your checkerboard edid mod this allows 3dvision to work with checkerboard hdmi 1.4 3dtv's ect, so then you make what does'nt work, work. But still at a cost of losing half your res to checkerboard[/u].
Stop bashing the truth as you are a hippocrite who does the exact same thing that somebody else has donebut you say there's is mute/viod!
You bash ecerything that is'nt your way, this is a interleaved post but you trolled to dribble about your checkerboard, the op did'nt ask about checkerboard but you forced it down his neck anyway.!
[quote name='roller11' date='16 November 2011 - 06:49 PM' timestamp='1321469340' post='1327750']
There was no need to state the obvious, that degraded modes don't count, it was assumed. I don't need to enumerate any exception that makes no sense.
Another deceitful half truth/ lie. I said that nobody would want to play on a monitor in interleaved mode when superior frame sequential mode is available and for a lesser cost. that makes your brilliant 'interleaved' discovery worthless which was the only point of my response.
Because we DON"T have 1920x1080 per eye, 60 frames per second on a 3DTV. Checkerboard is the next best thing, a very good native resolution substitute until we get 1920x1080 per eye/ 60 fps in frame sequential mode.
The crucial difference between my checkerboard and your interleaved is that CB dramatically improves gaming, your interleaved degrades gaming.
All I've ever accused you of is your shocking lack of maturity, your propensity to go on a name calling, insult hurling rant whenever you don't like what I say. You can't find any inaccuracy in my post so you just start hurling groundless insults and false accusations.
I posted my .inf file strictly for the good of the community, so that others would be free from the grotesque images of 3DTV Play. My motivation was wanting others to not make the same mistake I did in Nov. 2010, buying a non-checkerboard TV based on nvidia's claim that no HDTVs can do checkerboard gaming. At the time I posted (Jan. 20,2011), nobody in this forum knew how to achieve checkerboard mode except Nobsi, he was my inspiration. CB mode is such a dramatic improvement, why would I not want others to benefit? All I did was take Nobsi's great work one step further, eliminate the need for a seperate piece of hardware, the DVI detective. I've always credited Nobsi with being the genius here.
Well i posted my findings for the good of the community aswell , i never once have i mentioned anything in this post or any other on this forum about anything else, how did you not know i did'nt get that pic from the internet?
You mention that checkerboard is the best you can get, well interleaved is the best we can get, allso both 3d methods are half res and interleaved, the only real difference is interleaved 3d gaming is better than checkerboard gaming as interleaved has no lag, checkerboard and all other 3d modes on 3dtv's have lag as the 3d is being proccessed by the tv which adds lag.
Lets not forget something here.
3dvision does not work with 3dtv's, yes it works with mit's ect but we know 3dvision does not work on hdmi 1.4 displays!
That is a fact
But..
With your checkerboard edid mod this allows 3dvision to work with checkerboard hdmi 1.4 3dtv's ect, so then you make what does'nt work, work. But still at a cost of losing half your res to checkerboard.
Stop bashing the truth as you are a hippocrite who does the exact same thing that somebody else has donebut you say there's is mute/viod!
You bash ecerything that is'nt your way, this is a interleaved post but you trolled to dribble about your checkerboard, the op did'nt ask about checkerboard but you forced it down his neck anyway.!
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[quote name='mocca' date='16 November 2011 - 12:27 PM' timestamp='1321471638' post='1327774']
With your checkerboard edid mod this allows 3dvision to work with checkerboard hdmi 1.4 3dtv's ect, so then you make what does'nt work, work.[/quote]
Correct, that's why I have 54 PM folders filed with people's gratitude for saving them from scaled 720P gaming [quote]But still at a cost of losing half your res to checkerboard[/u].[/quote]
Half of what? CB is 1920x1080 res per frame, and it looks better than 2x 1920x1080 framepacking because unlike FP, CB doesn't override users settings by forcing the video processor into undesireable broadcast video mode. Universally, people agree that 1920x1080 CB is virtually indistinguishable from 2x 1920x1080 frame sequential. This is my contribution, native res 3D gaming at 60 fps on full sized HDTVs. What's your contribution? Telling people how to obtain degraded interleaved video on computer monitors?
[quote] the op did'nt ask about checkerboard but you forced it down his neck anyway.!
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Another lie, I never mentioned anything about CB mode to the OP.
[quote name='mocca' date='16 November 2011 - 12:27 PM' timestamp='1321471638' post='1327774']
With your checkerboard edid mod this allows 3dvision to work with checkerboard hdmi 1.4 3dtv's ect, so then you make what does'nt work, work.
Correct, that's why I have 54 PM folders filed with people's gratitude for saving them from scaled 720P gaming
But still at a cost of losing half your res to checkerboard[/u].
Half of what? CB is 1920x1080 res per frame, and it looks better than 2x 1920x1080 framepacking because unlike FP, CB doesn't override users settings by forcing the video processor into undesireable broadcast video mode. Universally, people agree that 1920x1080 CB is virtually indistinguishable from 2x 1920x1080 frame sequential. This is my contribution, native res 3D gaming at 60 fps on full sized HDTVs. What's your contribution? Telling people how to obtain degraded interleaved video on computer monitors?
the op did'nt ask about checkerboard but you forced it down his neck anyway.!
Another lie, I never mentioned anything about CB mode to the OP.
[quote name='Grestorn' date='15 November 2011 - 11:39 PM' timestamp='1321425591' post='1327414']
roller11, Mocca proved you wrong [/quote]
Mocca did not "prove me wrong". I said that nvidia doesn't support interleaved video on full sized HDTVs, I stand by that.
[quote name='roller11' date='13 November 2011 - 04:00 PM' timestamp='1321200015' post='1325702']
An EDID override won't do anything because 3DTV Play is strictly framepacking. For LG passive users, there's no way to get satisfactory 3D gaming with either 3D Vision or 3DTV Play. Only choices are Mits, LG active, samsung.
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...Checkerboard... dribble in a interleaved thread
There's no satisfactory way to get 3dvision checkerboard on a 3dtv, oh wait yes there is you proved it, yet you fail to see another side even though it was presented infront of your face so you moved to " what i meant to say " type rubbish after you was proven wrong, and you was proved wrong and never accepted it because your an idiot..
and
[quote name='roller11' date='14 November 2011 - 10:11 PM' timestamp='1321308679' post='1326474']
Nvidia doesn't support interleaved so this is of no interest. We need checkerboard with no colorbug.
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...Checkerboard... dribble in a interleaved thread
You call me a deciever, this post is about interleaved 3d, not checkerboard and you decieved the op by stating incorrect facts!
You need checkerboard because you have no other way to get 1080p/60hz, we need interleaved for the exact same reason and for the added bonus of lag free gaming which cannot be had with checkerboard or any other 3dtv 3d mode.
Lets face it you spout about active and checkerboard and all your great pm's, never once have i had to defend myself in this flame war with mentioning something as silly as having 54 pm's.
Wow i've had loads of pm's, i lose count but i have no need to mention why and what there for as i do not need to prove anything to anybody like your dribble of 54pm's or whatever it was.
You never give anybody the chance for anything else, your allways blowing your own trumpet and giving incorrect facts or troll posts.
Yes the people are gratefull as i once was but the fact still remains , this has nothing todo with that and everything todo with you blaming your woes onto me, when everything you accuse me of is what you really are!
And you really are an idiot hence the reason i call you one!
Plus there is the fact that you only see what is in your head , like you make it up as you go along.
I tell you what.
Still , in the face of your remarks i have not mentioned anything about anything, i have not said what my contribution is because i have no need to, i do not need to use my past accomplishments to defend myself like you do and your make believe thoughts.
So i will keep the things i have given to the community to myself as unlike you i do not need to reveal it just to defend myself.
[quote name='roller11' date='13 November 2011 - 04:00 PM' timestamp='1321200015' post='1325702']
An EDID override won't do anything because 3DTV Play is strictly framepacking. For LG passive users, there's no way to get satisfactory 3D gaming with either 3D Vision or 3DTV Play. Only choices are Mits, LG active, samsung.
...Checkerboard... dribble in a interleaved thread
There's no satisfactory way to get 3dvision checkerboard on a 3dtv, oh wait yes there is you proved it, yet you fail to see another side even though it was presented infront of your face so you moved to " what i meant to say " type rubbish after you was proven wrong, and you was proved wrong and never accepted it because your an idiot..
and
[quote name='roller11' date='14 November 2011 - 10:11 PM' timestamp='1321308679' post='1326474']
Nvidia doesn't support interleaved so this is of no interest. We need checkerboard with no colorbug.
...Checkerboard... dribble in a interleaved thread
You call me a deciever, this post is about interleaved 3d, not checkerboard and you decieved the op by stating incorrect facts!
You need checkerboard because you have no other way to get 1080p/60hz, we need interleaved for the exact same reason and for the added bonus of lag free gaming which cannot be had with checkerboard or any other 3dtv 3d mode.
Lets face it you spout about active and checkerboard and all your great pm's, never once have i had to defend myself in this flame war with mentioning something as silly as having 54 pm's.
Wow i've had loads of pm's, i lose count but i have no need to mention why and what there for as i do not need to prove anything to anybody like your dribble of 54pm's or whatever it was.
You never give anybody the chance for anything else, your allways blowing your own trumpet and giving incorrect facts or troll posts.
Yes the people are gratefull as i once was but the fact still remains , this has nothing todo with that and everything todo with you blaming your woes onto me, when everything you accuse me of is what you really are!
And you really are an idiot hence the reason i call you one!
Plus there is the fact that you only see what is in your head , like you make it up as you go along.
I tell you what.
Still , in the face of your remarks i have not mentioned anything about anything, i have not said what my contribution is because i have no need to, i do not need to use my past accomplishments to defend myself like you do and your make believe thoughts.
So i will keep the things i have given to the community to myself as unlike you i do not need to reveal it just to defend myself.
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[quote name='mocca' date='16 November 2011 - 01:53 PM' timestamp='1321476803' post='1327818']
...Checkerboard... dribble in a interleaved thread[/quote]
More deception. You said I "forced CB down the OP neck". I made no statement, no response at all *TO THE OP*. Before you tell another lie, remember that anyone can go back and see that all my resonses were directed to you except for one comment to tailslol (#4) where I made no mention of CB mode, and to Grestorn where I corrected his mistake.
[quote] you moved to " what i meant to say "[/quote]
Never said this, still another lie. You keep forgeting, people can simply look at the posts and see that I never said what you falsely accuse me of saying.
I didn't say "what I meant to say" because I said exactly what I meant to say, there is nothing to take back. I'll say it again. Nvidia doesn't support interleaved 3D gaming on HDTVs, that's what I have said consistantly. In post #9 I didn't bother to add the redundant "on HDTVs" because all posts at that time, including the OP's, were strictly in regard to HDTVs, and specifically NOT to computer monitors. Therefore, "for HDTVs" is assumed, no need to say it explictly.
[quote] lag free gaming which cannot be had with checkerboard or any other 3dtv 3d mode.[/quote]
Pure lie. CB has no lag.
[quote]Wow i've had loads of pm's, i lose count[/quote]
How many of them are filled with praise for something you donated to the forum for free, like the ability to achieve native resolution gaming that they could not have done otherwise?
[quote]...giving incorrect facts...[/quote]
Where are these incorrect facts? If there are so many, you should be able to find at least one. Come back when you find just one post where I gave incorrect statement.
[quote]you blaming your woes onto me[/quote]
My woes? Where did I mention "my woes"?? Now you are hallucinating.
[quote name='mocca' date='16 November 2011 - 01:53 PM' timestamp='1321476803' post='1327818']
...Checkerboard... dribble in a interleaved thread
More deception. You said I "forced CB down the OP neck". I made no statement, no response at all *TO THE OP*. Before you tell another lie, remember that anyone can go back and see that all my resonses were directed to you except for one comment to tailslol (#4) where I made no mention of CB mode, and to Grestorn where I corrected his mistake.
you moved to " what i meant to say "
Never said this, still another lie. You keep forgeting, people can simply look at the posts and see that I never said what you falsely accuse me of saying.
I didn't say "what I meant to say" because I said exactly what I meant to say, there is nothing to take back. I'll say it again. Nvidia doesn't support interleaved 3D gaming on HDTVs, that's what I have said consistantly. In post #9 I didn't bother to add the redundant "on HDTVs" because all posts at that time, including the OP's, were strictly in regard to HDTVs, and specifically NOT to computer monitors. Therefore, "for HDTVs" is assumed, no need to say it explictly.
lag free gaming which cannot be had with checkerboard or any other 3dtv 3d mode.
Pure lie. CB has no lag.
Wow i've had loads of pm's, i lose count
How many of them are filled with praise for something you donated to the forum for free, like the ability to achieve native resolution gaming that they could not have done otherwise?
...giving incorrect facts...
Where are these incorrect facts? If there are so many, you should be able to find at least one. Come back when you find just one post where I gave incorrect statement.
you blaming your woes onto me
My woes? Where did I mention "my woes"?? Now you are hallucinating.
Have a look at this PDF from several years ago showing where Nvidia supported multiple display formats! http://www.feldoncentral.com/Sachs/drivers/nvidia_7777_3D_Stereo_User_Guide.pdf
One of the best ways I've seen checkerboard/interlaced compared is "interlaced and checkerboard are half resolution for each eye and with the two eyes together you get full res. Counting pixels, interlaced and checkerboard are perfectly identical. It's just that the line by line interlacing makes it easy to notice, whereas the checkerboard pattern hides the resolution loss.
The only checkerboard format that gives almost full 1080P@60 per eye is Sensio3D, but it requires a special decoder.
http://sensio.tv/business/technology_solutions/sensio__hi_fi_3d_format
Look at the white paper PDF http://sensio.tv/pdf/SENSIO_Ensuring_premium_quality_3D_distribution.pdf
All 3 above formats are psuedo 1080P@60 per eye over HDMI, due to the current HDMI chip bandwith limitations 1080P@120Hz is not possible.
1080P@120Hz is only achievable via a DVI-D or Display Port connection.
Have a look at this PDF from several years ago showing where Nvidia supported multiple display formats! http://www.feldoncentral.com/Sachs/drivers/nvidia_7777_3D_Stereo_User_Guide.pdf
One of the best ways I've seen checkerboard/interlaced compared is "interlaced and checkerboard are half resolution for each eye and with the two eyes together you get full res. Counting pixels, interlaced and checkerboard are perfectly identical. It's just that the line by line interlacing makes it easy to notice, whereas the checkerboard pattern hides the resolution loss.
The only checkerboard format that gives almost full 1080P@60 per eye is Sensio3D, but it requires a special decoder.
So when you're proven wrong, all you can do is hurl insults? That's it?? Where's your comeback? Or is your lack of any disagreement an admission that my statement is 100% correct?
You're right about one thing...I will always point out your attempts to deceive people.
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People can you please ignore this idiot, dribble dribble dribble, that will be the last message i wil se from you as again your posts make my eyes bleed, what a total idiot you are man!
As many of us know, i have just proven you wrong, you may not accept it but do we care, hell no cos your an idiot!
And i give insults because of your attitude and stupidity, you do not see what is before your own eyes, you just see what you make up in your head!
So when you're proven wrong, all you can do is hurl insults? That's it?? Where's your comeback? Or is your lack of any disagreement an admission that my statement is 100% correct?
You're right about one thing...I will always point out your attempts to deceive people.
People can you please ignore this idiot, dribble dribble dribble, that will be the last message i wil se from you as again your posts make my eyes bleed, what a total idiot you are man!
As many of us know, i have just proven you wrong, you may not accept it but do we care, hell no cos your an idiot!
And i give insults because of your attitude and stupidity, you do not see what is before your own eyes, you just see what you make up in your head!
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i have just proven you wrong,[/quote]
How so? What did I say that was "wrong"? Provide post number and quote, or don't and admit defeat.
This is typical of your posts. You can't find any inaccuracy in my statements so you falsely acuse me of being wrong without reference. All you do is engage in name calling like a five year old.
i have just proven you wrong,
How so? What did I say that was "wrong"? Provide post number and quote, or don't and admit defeat.
This is typical of your posts. You can't find any inaccuracy in my statements so you falsely acuse me of being wrong without reference. All you do is engage in name calling like a five year old.
roller11, Mocca proved you wrong in that he gave you an example where nVidia provides interleaved S3D support, which you claimed didn't exist. It doesn't matter that you think that the monitor this solution has been made for is crap, it's still proves that there is interlaced S3D support.
roller11, Mocca proved you wrong in that he gave you an example where nVidia provides interleaved S3D support, which you claimed didn't exist. It doesn't matter that you think that the monitor this solution has been made for is crap, it's still proves that there is interlaced S3D support.
Oh god... can you please stop that?
roller11, Mocca proved you wrong in that he gave you an example where nVidia provides interlaces S3D support, which you claimed didn't exist. It doesn't matter that you think that the monitor this solution has been made for is crap, it's still prove that there is interlaced S3D support.
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Lol at the flame war. Both of you are great additions to this community and both of you seem to know your ****. So let it go and get along would ya!
Oh god... can you please stop that?
roller11, Mocca proved you wrong in that he gave you an example where nVidia provides interlaces S3D support, which you claimed didn't exist. It doesn't matter that you think that the monitor this solution has been made for is crap, it's still prove that there is interlaced S3D support.
Lol at the flame war. Both of you are great additions to this community and both of you seem to know your ****. So let it go and get along would ya!
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Optoma HD33
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TrackIR
Oculus Rift (soon)
Two crossed eyes
Lol at the flame war. Both of you are great additions to this community and both of you seem to know your ****. So let it go and get along would ya!
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You're barking up the wrong tree!
Lol at the flame war. Both of you are great additions to this community and both of you seem to know your ****. So let it go and get along would ya!
You're barking up the wrong tree!
How so? What did I say that was "wrong"? Provide post number and quote, or don't and admit defeat.
This is typical of your posts. You can't find any inaccuracy in my statements so you falsely acuse me of being wrong without reference. All you do is engage in name calling like a five year old.
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I'll try not reply to you again, had to unblock you to see that silly post, get a grip man!
That was another stupid remark from you that has just backfired!
No name calling, just truths, you are infact the worrst idiot i have ever met on the internet, in all my years you are the only person i have ever blocked!!!
This link proves how innacurate you are, we all know but you do'nt and can't accept it so carry on talking rubbish, in the real world these people are known as idiots, there people to aviod, sadly you are an idiot and till you accept that you will never move on tobe a sound guy, will stay and idiot for ever!
Oh man you just suprise me more and more, if you are a special person with learning difficultys then i am very sorry for calling you a idiot but i believe your just a normal idiot!
Just let me know as i would hate tobe calling a retard a idiot as it would'nt be your fault!
[quote] roller11
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mocca, on 14 November 2011 - 02:39 PM, said:
I have sold my lg now and have gotten a toshiba passive of same size and i now have perfectly working interleaved 3d with no colourbug and no edid mods ect, it just works like it should.
[size="6"]Nvidia doesn't support interleaved so this is of no interest. We need checkerboard with no colorbug.[/size]
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http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=215588&view=findpost&p=1326474
And just for the fun off it to and just for my pleasure here is more solid proof that proves you are a total idiot!!
LOOK AT THE INCLUDED PIC!!!
Now i allready know you will likely still not see what's in front of your eyes and still admit your correct, i and everybody else look forward to your next reply, so much so i have unblocked you especially for this coming event!
How so? What did I say that was "wrong"? Provide post number and quote, or don't and admit defeat.
This is typical of your posts. You can't find any inaccuracy in my statements so you falsely acuse me of being wrong without reference. All you do is engage in name calling like a five year old.
I'll try not reply to you again, had to unblock you to see that silly post, get a grip man!
That was another stupid remark from you that has just backfired!
No name calling, just truths, you are infact the worrst idiot i have ever met on the internet, in all my years you are the only person i have ever blocked!!!
This link proves how innacurate you are, we all know but you do'nt and can't accept it so carry on talking rubbish, in the real world these people are known as idiots, there people to aviod, sadly you are an idiot and till you accept that you will never move on tobe a sound guy, will stay and idiot for ever!
Oh man you just suprise me more and more, if you are a special person with learning difficultys then i am very sorry for calling you a idiot but i believe your just a normal idiot!
Just let me know as i would hate tobe calling a retard a idiot as it would'nt be your fault!
http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=215588&view=findpost&p=1326474
And just for the fun off it to and just for my pleasure here is more solid proof that proves you are a total idiot!!
LOOK AT THE INCLUDED PIC!!!
Now i allready know you will likely still not see what's in front of your eyes and still admit your correct, i and everybody else look forward to your next reply, so much so i have unblocked you especially for this coming event!
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Now i allready know you will likely still not see what's in front of your eyes and still admit your correct, i and everybody else look forward to your next reply, so much so i have unblocked you especially for this coming event!
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When I said "it doesn't support interleaved support" of course that was in the context of 3D gaming on a full sized display. Whether or not it's possible to 3D game with degraded images on a tiny computer monitor using interleaved is a moot point, nobody would ever want to do this. So this doesn't count as wrongness.
You felt the need to show everybody how smart you are by figuring out a way to invoke interleaved mode to achieve an inferior, degraded, expensive 3D gaming experience. That struck me as amusing, but very typical of how your brain works.
Now i allready know you will likely still not see what's in front of your eyes and still admit your correct, i and everybody else look forward to your next reply, so much so i have unblocked you especially for this coming event!
When I said "it doesn't support interleaved support" of course that was in the context of 3D gaming on a full sized display. Whether or not it's possible to 3D game with degraded images on a tiny computer monitor using interleaved is a moot point, nobody would ever want to do this. So this doesn't count as wrongness.
You felt the need to show everybody how smart you are by figuring out a way to invoke interleaved mode to achieve an inferior, degraded, expensive 3D gaming experience. That struck me as amusing, but very typical of how your brain works.
When I said "it doesn't support interleaved support" of course that was in the context of 3D gaming on a full sized display. Whether or not it's possible to 3D game with degraded images on a tiny computer monitor using interleaved is a moot point, nobody would ever want to do this. So this doesn't count as wrongness.
You felt the need to show everybody how smart you are by figuring out a way to invoke interleaved mode to achieve an inferior, degraded, expensive 3D gaming experience. That struck me as amusing, but very typical of how your brain works.
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Yeah yeah, " when you said "!
And there it is, you just cannot accept being wrong/not knowing so you say " when i said " what i really meant "
Get a grip!!
how can you say nobody would ever want to play on a tiny passsive monitor, i think again you will find your incorrect as there are people using these monitors for 3d and they are enjoying themselfs, just because you can't enjoy yourself with a tech does'nt mean nobody else can, the world does not evolve around you!
That was'nmt worth the effort so back in my block list you go, 6 years on the internet and you are the only person i have blocked ever!
What an idiot you are!!!!
I suppose i could say why in the hell would you want checkerboard! when you have 120hz 1080p 3d, this is what your saying about interleaved.
[quote]Checkerboard. Many DLP 3D Ready televisions (not projectors) accept what is called the checkerboard format. In this format, the two images for left and right eye are interleaved, with every other pixel going to the opposite eye. Look at an actual checkerboard and pretend the squares are pixels. The black squares would go to the left eye, while the red squares would go to the right eye. The television separates the two interleaved images and displays them sequentially. The resulting images are [u]half-resolution[/u][/quote]
But i won't because i am not like you!
I could spend all day correcting you but at the end of the day i done my part, i proved it with links and facts and you change your story to " when i said "
I now no longer have any need to reply to or view any of your posts as you are just spouting more and more rubbish to try and cover your tracks when all you had todo was the same as any normal person would of done and said something constructive.
And as i'll not be reading your posts anymore i'll just piopnt out that yes my spelling is bad so if you piont that out which i can see coming next then you really are a loser but iu doubt you will now i've just said that as you have been shamed.
No sorry you have'nt been shamed, you shame yourself, your embarressing.
[quote]You felt the need to show everybody how smart you are by figuring out a way to invoke interleaved mode to achieve an inferior, degraded, expensive 3D gaming experience. That struck me as amusing, but very typical of how your brain works.
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I felt the need to show you, this has nothing todo with anybody else but you! i do'nt need to sound my own trumpet.
You will find you incoorect there aswell, as me and many others know.
I allso mentioned in a earlier post that anybody can make a edid mod so your nothing special, that is what you call modesty, does the word " anybody " mean anything to you, i am an anybody, you are an anoybody, everybody is a anybody!
I make no claims that i'm special or brainy, and infact what is wrote just above this is testament to that.
You accuse me of something you may be guilty for? so you think every1 else thinks the same way, well we do'nt, it's just you and you only.You came here to this forum and spread the info about checkerboard on any 3dtv using 3dvision, you have just accussed me of showing something in a post to make myself look brainy that you have as a thread??
You obviously need to let every1 know how brainy you are by way of your checkerboard edid and how you invoked checkerboard, as you have just accused me off this..
So, did you post the checkerboard mod thread to show everybody how brainy you was or did you post it for the good of the community, you have me confused.
I have not once showed anything in this thread to make myself look brainy ect, i have just proved beyond a shadow of a doubt your an idiot and you do'nt like it.
I am open to the fact that i do'nt like you and think your an idiot, this comes from pm attitude and forum attitude!
And as such i am rude to you and only you.
When I said "it doesn't support interleaved support" of course that was in the context of 3D gaming on a full sized display. Whether or not it's possible to 3D game with degraded images on a tiny computer monitor using interleaved is a moot point, nobody would ever want to do this. So this doesn't count as wrongness.
You felt the need to show everybody how smart you are by figuring out a way to invoke interleaved mode to achieve an inferior, degraded, expensive 3D gaming experience. That struck me as amusing, but very typical of how your brain works.
Yeah yeah, " when you said "!
And there it is, you just cannot accept being wrong/not knowing so you say " when i said " what i really meant "
Get a grip!!
how can you say nobody would ever want to play on a tiny passsive monitor, i think again you will find your incorrect as there are people using these monitors for 3d and they are enjoying themselfs, just because you can't enjoy yourself with a tech does'nt mean nobody else can, the world does not evolve around you!
That was'nmt worth the effort so back in my block list you go, 6 years on the internet and you are the only person i have blocked ever!
What an idiot you are!!!!
I suppose i could say why in the hell would you want checkerboard! when you have 120hz 1080p 3d, this is what your saying about interleaved.
But i won't because i am not like you!
I could spend all day correcting you but at the end of the day i done my part, i proved it with links and facts and you change your story to " when i said "
I now no longer have any need to reply to or view any of your posts as you are just spouting more and more rubbish to try and cover your tracks when all you had todo was the same as any normal person would of done and said something constructive.
And as i'll not be reading your posts anymore i'll just piopnt out that yes my spelling is bad so if you piont that out which i can see coming next then you really are a loser but iu doubt you will now i've just said that as you have been shamed.
No sorry you have'nt been shamed, you shame yourself, your embarressing.
I felt the need to show you, this has nothing todo with anybody else but you! i do'nt need to sound my own trumpet.
You will find you incoorect there aswell, as me and many others know.
I allso mentioned in a earlier post that anybody can make a edid mod so your nothing special, that is what you call modesty, does the word " anybody " mean anything to you, i am an anybody, you are an anoybody, everybody is a anybody!
I make no claims that i'm special or brainy, and infact what is wrote just above this is testament to that.
You accuse me of something you may be guilty for? so you think every1 else thinks the same way, well we do'nt, it's just you and you only.You came here to this forum and spread the info about checkerboard on any 3dtv using 3dvision, you have just accussed me of showing something in a post to make myself look brainy that you have as a thread??
You obviously need to let every1 know how brainy you are by way of your checkerboard edid and how you invoked checkerboard, as you have just accused me off this..
So, did you post the checkerboard mod thread to show everybody how brainy you was or did you post it for the good of the community, you have me confused.
I have not once showed anything in this thread to make myself look brainy ect, i have just proved beyond a shadow of a doubt your an idiot and you do'nt like it.
I am open to the fact that i do'nt like you and think your an idiot, this comes from pm attitude and forum attitude!
And as such i am rude to you and only you.
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Yeah yeah, " when you said "!
And there it is, you just cannot accept being wrong/not knowing so you say " when i said " what i really meant "
Get a grip!![/quote]
There was no need to state the obvious, that degraded modes don't count, it was assumed. I don't need to enumerate any exception that makes no sense.
[quote]how can you say nobody would ever want to play on a tiny passsive monitor,[/quote]
Another deceitful half truth/ lie. I said that nobody would want to play on a monitor in interleaved mode when superior frame sequential mode is available and for a lesser cost. that makes your brilliant 'interleaved' discovery worthless which was the only point of my response.
[quote]I suppose i could say why in the hell would you want checkerboard! when you have 120hz 1080p 3d, this is what your saying about interleaved.[/quote]
Because we DON"T have 1920x1080 per eye, 60 frames per second on a 3DTV. Checkerboard is the next best thing, a very good native resolution substitute until we get 1920x1080 per eye/ 60 fps in frame sequential mode.
The crucial difference between my checkerboard and your interleaved is that CB dramatically improves gaming, your interleaved degrades gaming.
[quote]You accuse me of something you may be guilty for?[/quote]
All I've ever accused you of is your shocking lack of maturity, your propensity to go on a name calling, insult hurling rant whenever you don't like what I say. You can't find any inaccuracy in my post so you just start hurling groundless insults and false accusations.
[quote] did you post the checkerboard mod thread to show everybody how brainy you was or did you post it for the good of the community, [/quote]
I posted my .inf file strictly for the good of the community, so that others would be free from the grotesque images of 3DTV Play. My motivation was wanting others to not make the same mistake I did in Nov. 2010, buying a non-checkerboard TV based on nvidia's claim that no HDTVs can do checkerboard gaming. At the time I posted (Jan. 20,2011), nobody in this forum knew how to achieve checkerboard mode except Nobsi, he was my inspiration. CB mode is such a dramatic improvement, why would I not want others to benefit? All I did was take Nobsi's great work one step further, eliminate the need for a seperate piece of hardware, the DVI detective. I've always credited Nobsi with being the genius here.
Yeah yeah, " when you said "!
And there it is, you just cannot accept being wrong/not knowing so you say " when i said " what i really meant "
Get a grip!!
There was no need to state the obvious, that degraded modes don't count, it was assumed. I don't need to enumerate any exception that makes no sense.
Another deceitful half truth/ lie. I said that nobody would want to play on a monitor in interleaved mode when superior frame sequential mode is available and for a lesser cost. that makes your brilliant 'interleaved' discovery worthless which was the only point of my response.
Because we DON"T have 1920x1080 per eye, 60 frames per second on a 3DTV. Checkerboard is the next best thing, a very good native resolution substitute until we get 1920x1080 per eye/ 60 fps in frame sequential mode.
The crucial difference between my checkerboard and your interleaved is that CB dramatically improves gaming, your interleaved degrades gaming.
All I've ever accused you of is your shocking lack of maturity, your propensity to go on a name calling, insult hurling rant whenever you don't like what I say. You can't find any inaccuracy in my post so you just start hurling groundless insults and false accusations.
I posted my .inf file strictly for the good of the community, so that others would be free from the grotesque images of 3DTV Play. My motivation was wanting others to not make the same mistake I did in Nov. 2010, buying a non-checkerboard TV based on nvidia's claim that no HDTVs can do checkerboard gaming. At the time I posted (Jan. 20,2011), nobody in this forum knew how to achieve checkerboard mode except Nobsi, he was my inspiration. CB mode is such a dramatic improvement, why would I not want others to benefit? All I did was take Nobsi's great work one step further, eliminate the need for a seperate piece of hardware, the DVI detective. I've always credited Nobsi with being the genius here.
There was no need to state the obvious, that degraded modes don't count, it was assumed. I don't need to enumerate any exception that makes no sense.
Another deceitful half truth/ lie. I said that nobody would want to play on a monitor in interleaved mode when superior frame sequential mode is available and for a lesser cost. that makes your brilliant 'interleaved' discovery worthless which was the only point of my response.
Because we DON"T have 1920x1080 per eye, 60 frames per second on a 3DTV. Checkerboard is the next best thing, a very good native resolution substitute until we get 1920x1080 per eye/ 60 fps in frame sequential mode.
The crucial difference between my checkerboard and your interleaved is that CB dramatically improves gaming, your interleaved degrades gaming.
All I've ever accused you of is your shocking lack of maturity, your propensity to go on a name calling, insult hurling rant whenever you don't like what I say. You can't find any inaccuracy in my post so you just start hurling groundless insults and false accusations.
I posted my .inf file strictly for the good of the community, so that others would be free from the grotesque images of 3DTV Play. My motivation was wanting others to not make the same mistake I did in Nov. 2010, buying a non-checkerboard TV based on nvidia's claim that no HDTVs can do checkerboard gaming. At the time I posted (Jan. 20,2011), nobody in this forum knew how to achieve checkerboard mode except Nobsi, he was my inspiration. CB mode is such a dramatic improvement, why would I not want others to benefit? All I did was take Nobsi's great work one step further, eliminate the need for a seperate piece of hardware, the DVI detective. I've always credited Nobsi with being the genius here.
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Well i posted my findings for the good of the community aswell , i never once have i mentioned anything in this post or any other on this forum about anything else, how did you not know i did'nt get that pic from the internet?
You mention that checkerboard is the best you can get, well interleaved is the best we can get, allso both 3d methods are half res and interleaved, the only real difference is interleaved 3d gaming is better than checkerboard gaming as interleaved has no lag, checkerboard and all other 3d modes on 3dtv's have lag as the 3d is being proccessed by the tv which adds lag.
Lets not forget something here.
[u]3dvision does not work with 3dtv's, yes it works with mit's ect but we know 3dvision does not work on hdmi 1.4 displays!
That is a fact
But..
With your checkerboard edid mod this allows 3dvision to work with checkerboard hdmi 1.4 3dtv's ect, so then you make what does'nt work, work. But still at a cost of losing half your res to checkerboard[/u].
Stop bashing the truth as you are a hippocrite who does the exact same thing that somebody else has donebut you say there's is mute/viod!
You bash ecerything that is'nt your way, this is a interleaved post but you trolled to dribble about your checkerboard, the op did'nt ask about checkerboard but you forced it down his neck anyway.!
There was no need to state the obvious, that degraded modes don't count, it was assumed. I don't need to enumerate any exception that makes no sense.
Another deceitful half truth/ lie. I said that nobody would want to play on a monitor in interleaved mode when superior frame sequential mode is available and for a lesser cost. that makes your brilliant 'interleaved' discovery worthless which was the only point of my response.
Because we DON"T have 1920x1080 per eye, 60 frames per second on a 3DTV. Checkerboard is the next best thing, a very good native resolution substitute until we get 1920x1080 per eye/ 60 fps in frame sequential mode.
The crucial difference between my checkerboard and your interleaved is that CB dramatically improves gaming, your interleaved degrades gaming.
All I've ever accused you of is your shocking lack of maturity, your propensity to go on a name calling, insult hurling rant whenever you don't like what I say. You can't find any inaccuracy in my post so you just start hurling groundless insults and false accusations.
I posted my .inf file strictly for the good of the community, so that others would be free from the grotesque images of 3DTV Play. My motivation was wanting others to not make the same mistake I did in Nov. 2010, buying a non-checkerboard TV based on nvidia's claim that no HDTVs can do checkerboard gaming. At the time I posted (Jan. 20,2011), nobody in this forum knew how to achieve checkerboard mode except Nobsi, he was my inspiration. CB mode is such a dramatic improvement, why would I not want others to benefit? All I did was take Nobsi's great work one step further, eliminate the need for a seperate piece of hardware, the DVI detective. I've always credited Nobsi with being the genius here.
Well i posted my findings for the good of the community aswell , i never once have i mentioned anything in this post or any other on this forum about anything else, how did you not know i did'nt get that pic from the internet?
You mention that checkerboard is the best you can get, well interleaved is the best we can get, allso both 3d methods are half res and interleaved, the only real difference is interleaved 3d gaming is better than checkerboard gaming as interleaved has no lag, checkerboard and all other 3d modes on 3dtv's have lag as the 3d is being proccessed by the tv which adds lag.
Lets not forget something here.
3dvision does not work with 3dtv's, yes it works with mit's ect but we know 3dvision does not work on hdmi 1.4 displays!
That is a fact
But..
With your checkerboard edid mod this allows 3dvision to work with checkerboard hdmi 1.4 3dtv's ect, so then you make what does'nt work, work. But still at a cost of losing half your res to checkerboard.
Stop bashing the truth as you are a hippocrite who does the exact same thing that somebody else has donebut you say there's is mute/viod!
You bash ecerything that is'nt your way, this is a interleaved post but you trolled to dribble about your checkerboard, the op did'nt ask about checkerboard but you forced it down his neck anyway.!
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With your checkerboard edid mod this allows 3dvision to work with checkerboard hdmi 1.4 3dtv's ect, so then you make what does'nt work, work.[/quote]
Correct, that's why I have 54 PM folders filed with people's gratitude for saving them from scaled 720P gaming [quote]But still at a cost of losing half your res to checkerboard[/u].[/quote]
Half of what? CB is 1920x1080 res per frame, and it looks better than 2x 1920x1080 framepacking because unlike FP, CB doesn't override users settings by forcing the video processor into undesireable broadcast video mode. Universally, people agree that 1920x1080 CB is virtually indistinguishable from 2x 1920x1080 frame sequential. This is my contribution, native res 3D gaming at 60 fps on full sized HDTVs. What's your contribution? Telling people how to obtain degraded interleaved video on computer monitors?
[quote] the op did'nt ask about checkerboard but you forced it down his neck anyway.!
[/quote]
Another lie, I never mentioned anything about CB mode to the OP.
With your checkerboard edid mod this allows 3dvision to work with checkerboard hdmi 1.4 3dtv's ect, so then you make what does'nt work, work.
Correct, that's why I have 54 PM folders filed with people's gratitude for saving them from scaled 720P gaming
Half of what? CB is 1920x1080 res per frame, and it looks better than 2x 1920x1080 framepacking because unlike FP, CB doesn't override users settings by forcing the video processor into undesireable broadcast video mode. Universally, people agree that 1920x1080 CB is virtually indistinguishable from 2x 1920x1080 frame sequential. This is my contribution, native res 3D gaming at 60 fps on full sized HDTVs. What's your contribution? Telling people how to obtain degraded interleaved video on computer monitors?
Another lie, I never mentioned anything about CB mode to the OP.
roller11, Mocca proved you wrong [/quote]
Mocca did not "prove me wrong". I said that nvidia doesn't support interleaved video on full sized HDTVs, I stand by that.
roller11, Mocca proved you wrong
Mocca did not "prove me wrong". I said that nvidia doesn't support interleaved video on full sized HDTVs, I stand by that.
An EDID override won't do anything because 3DTV Play is strictly framepacking. For LG passive users, there's no way to get satisfactory 3D gaming with either 3D Vision or 3DTV Play. Only choices are Mits, LG active, samsung.
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...Checkerboard... dribble in a interleaved thread
There's no satisfactory way to get 3dvision checkerboard on a 3dtv, oh wait yes there is you proved it, yet you fail to see another side even though it was presented infront of your face so you moved to " what i meant to say " type rubbish after you was proven wrong, and you was proved wrong and never accepted it because your an idiot..
and
[quote name='roller11' date='14 November 2011 - 10:11 PM' timestamp='1321308679' post='1326474']
Nvidia doesn't support interleaved so this is of no interest. We need checkerboard with no colorbug.
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...Checkerboard... dribble in a interleaved thread
You call me a deciever, this post is about interleaved 3d, not checkerboard and you decieved the op by stating incorrect facts!
You need checkerboard because you have no other way to get 1080p/60hz, we need interleaved for the exact same reason and for the added bonus of lag free gaming which cannot be had with checkerboard or any other 3dtv 3d mode.
Lets face it you spout about active and checkerboard and all your great pm's, never once have i had to defend myself in this flame war with mentioning something as silly as having 54 pm's.
Wow i've had loads of pm's, i lose count but i have no need to mention why and what there for as i do not need to prove anything to anybody like your dribble of 54pm's or whatever it was.
You never give anybody the chance for anything else, your allways blowing your own trumpet and giving incorrect facts or troll posts.
Yes the people are gratefull as i once was but the fact still remains , this has nothing todo with that and everything todo with you blaming your woes onto me, when everything you accuse me of is what you really are!
And you really are an idiot hence the reason i call you one!
Plus there is the fact that you only see what is in your head , like you make it up as you go along.
I tell you what.
Still , in the face of your remarks i have not mentioned anything about anything, i have not said what my contribution is because i have no need to, i do not need to use my past accomplishments to defend myself like you do and your make believe thoughts.
So i will keep the things i have given to the community to myself as unlike you i do not need to reveal it just to defend myself.
An EDID override won't do anything because 3DTV Play is strictly framepacking. For LG passive users, there's no way to get satisfactory 3D gaming with either 3D Vision or 3DTV Play. Only choices are Mits, LG active, samsung.
...Checkerboard... dribble in a interleaved thread
There's no satisfactory way to get 3dvision checkerboard on a 3dtv, oh wait yes there is you proved it, yet you fail to see another side even though it was presented infront of your face so you moved to " what i meant to say " type rubbish after you was proven wrong, and you was proved wrong and never accepted it because your an idiot..
and
[quote name='roller11' date='14 November 2011 - 10:11 PM' timestamp='1321308679' post='1326474']
Nvidia doesn't support interleaved so this is of no interest. We need checkerboard with no colorbug.
...Checkerboard... dribble in a interleaved thread
You call me a deciever, this post is about interleaved 3d, not checkerboard and you decieved the op by stating incorrect facts!
You need checkerboard because you have no other way to get 1080p/60hz, we need interleaved for the exact same reason and for the added bonus of lag free gaming which cannot be had with checkerboard or any other 3dtv 3d mode.
Lets face it you spout about active and checkerboard and all your great pm's, never once have i had to defend myself in this flame war with mentioning something as silly as having 54 pm's.
Wow i've had loads of pm's, i lose count but i have no need to mention why and what there for as i do not need to prove anything to anybody like your dribble of 54pm's or whatever it was.
You never give anybody the chance for anything else, your allways blowing your own trumpet and giving incorrect facts or troll posts.
Yes the people are gratefull as i once was but the fact still remains , this has nothing todo with that and everything todo with you blaming your woes onto me, when everything you accuse me of is what you really are!
And you really are an idiot hence the reason i call you one!
Plus there is the fact that you only see what is in your head , like you make it up as you go along.
I tell you what.
Still , in the face of your remarks i have not mentioned anything about anything, i have not said what my contribution is because i have no need to, i do not need to use my past accomplishments to defend myself like you do and your make believe thoughts.
So i will keep the things i have given to the community to myself as unlike you i do not need to reveal it just to defend myself.
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...Checkerboard... dribble in a interleaved thread[/quote]
More deception. You said I "forced CB down the OP neck". I made no statement, no response at all *TO THE OP*. Before you tell another lie, remember that anyone can go back and see that all my resonses were directed to you except for one comment to tailslol (#4) where I made no mention of CB mode, and to Grestorn where I corrected his mistake.
[quote] you moved to " what i meant to say "[/quote]
Never said this, still another lie. You keep forgeting, people can simply look at the posts and see that I never said what you falsely accuse me of saying.
I didn't say "what I meant to say" because I said exactly what I meant to say, there is nothing to take back. I'll say it again. Nvidia doesn't support interleaved 3D gaming on HDTVs, that's what I have said consistantly. In post #9 I didn't bother to add the redundant "on HDTVs" because all posts at that time, including the OP's, were strictly in regard to HDTVs, and specifically NOT to computer monitors. Therefore, "for HDTVs" is assumed, no need to say it explictly.
[quote] lag free gaming which cannot be had with checkerboard or any other 3dtv 3d mode.[/quote]
Pure lie. CB has no lag.
[quote]Wow i've had loads of pm's, i lose count[/quote]
How many of them are filled with praise for something you donated to the forum for free, like the ability to achieve native resolution gaming that they could not have done otherwise?
[quote]...giving incorrect facts...[/quote]
Where are these incorrect facts? If there are so many, you should be able to find at least one. Come back when you find just one post where I gave incorrect statement.
[quote]you blaming your woes onto me[/quote]
My woes? Where did I mention "my woes"?? Now you are hallucinating.
...Checkerboard... dribble in a interleaved thread
More deception. You said I "forced CB down the OP neck". I made no statement, no response at all *TO THE OP*. Before you tell another lie, remember that anyone can go back and see that all my resonses were directed to you except for one comment to tailslol (#4) where I made no mention of CB mode, and to Grestorn where I corrected his mistake.
Never said this, still another lie. You keep forgeting, people can simply look at the posts and see that I never said what you falsely accuse me of saying.
I didn't say "what I meant to say" because I said exactly what I meant to say, there is nothing to take back. I'll say it again. Nvidia doesn't support interleaved 3D gaming on HDTVs, that's what I have said consistantly. In post #9 I didn't bother to add the redundant "on HDTVs" because all posts at that time, including the OP's, were strictly in regard to HDTVs, and specifically NOT to computer monitors. Therefore, "for HDTVs" is assumed, no need to say it explictly.
Pure lie. CB has no lag.
How many of them are filled with praise for something you donated to the forum for free, like the ability to achieve native resolution gaming that they could not have done otherwise?
Where are these incorrect facts? If there are so many, you should be able to find at least one. Come back when you find just one post where I gave incorrect statement.
My woes? Where did I mention "my woes"?? Now you are hallucinating.
One of the best ways I've seen checkerboard/interlaced compared is "interlaced and checkerboard are half resolution for each eye and with the two eyes together you get full res. Counting pixels, interlaced and checkerboard are perfectly identical. It's just that the line by line interlacing makes it easy to notice, whereas the checkerboard pattern hides the resolution loss.
The only checkerboard format that gives almost full 1080P@60 per eye is Sensio3D, but it requires a special decoder.
http://sensio.tv/business/technology_solutions/sensio__hi_fi_3d_format
Look at the white paper PDF http://sensio.tv/pdf/SENSIO_Ensuring_premium_quality_3D_distribution.pdf
All 3 above formats are psuedo 1080P@60 per eye over HDMI, due to the current HDMI chip bandwith limitations 1080P@120Hz is not possible.
1080P@120Hz is only achievable via a DVI-D or Display Port connection.
One of the best ways I've seen checkerboard/interlaced compared is "interlaced and checkerboard are half resolution for each eye and with the two eyes together you get full res. Counting pixels, interlaced and checkerboard are perfectly identical. It's just that the line by line interlacing makes it easy to notice, whereas the checkerboard pattern hides the resolution loss.
The only checkerboard format that gives almost full 1080P@60 per eye is Sensio3D, but it requires a special decoder.
http://sensio.tv/business/technology_solutions/sensio__hi_fi_3d_format
Look at the white paper PDF http://sensio.tv/pdf/SENSIO_Ensuring_premium_quality_3D_distribution.pdf
All 3 above formats are psuedo 1080P@60 per eye over HDMI, due to the current HDMI chip bandwith limitations 1080P@120Hz is not possible.
1080P@120Hz is only achievable via a DVI-D or Display Port connection.