Definetly a game changer
I recently picked up a Mits 60" television and 3D vision and must say I am loving it. It looks really amazing in a majority of games, it makes it extremely hard to play anything but. I must say the game that has most surprised me is GTA 4, it takes some adjusting but looks really awesome, not to mention many other games. I would also like to recommend the Mitsubishi line of DLP's, they work outstanding in 3D. I don't experience ghosting issues beyond ones caused by poor rated games. Here are some of my settings for my tv and a couple of GTA pics for the heck of it.

I did have to read up on the Mits as It has issues as a computer monitor, scaling related. I had to create a custom resolution to something like 1824x1028, this allows the picture to fill the screen. The next step was to get perfect pixel representation, to do this you have to fiddle with the service menu, here is what I did as a quick reference for those who may not know or don't want to dig around.

Enter the menu and hit 2 4 5 7 on the remote. From there, 0 will get you to the geometry menu, select manual geometry alignment then hit 1 and enter on the remote to exit. This gives perfect pixel representation at the cost of keystone being off but it reads so much better as a desktop and is 100% unnoticeable in any gaming/movies.

Here are my picture settings stolen from the AVS Forums that worked really well.
Picture mode: adv
h pos: 31
v pos: 30
deepfield imager, super res, sharpedge: off
video noise: low
brightness: 33
contrast: 50
color: 31
tint: 31
sharpness: 50
gamma: 2.0
red high: 942
green high: 1023
blue high: 1018
red low: 6
green low: -1
blue low: 0
blue only: off
red adjust: 18,0,0
green adjust: 0,30,3
blue adjust: 0,0,0
Magenta adjust: 23,6,11
cyan adjust: 0,15,15
yellow adjust: 28,22,0
I recently picked up a Mits 60" television and 3D vision and must say I am loving it. It looks really amazing in a majority of games, it makes it extremely hard to play anything but. I must say the game that has most surprised me is GTA 4, it takes some adjusting but looks really awesome, not to mention many other games. I would also like to recommend the Mitsubishi line of DLP's, they work outstanding in 3D. I don't experience ghosting issues beyond ones caused by poor rated games. Here are some of my settings for my tv and a couple of GTA pics for the heck of it.



I did have to read up on the Mits as It has issues as a computer monitor, scaling related. I had to create a custom resolution to something like 1824x1028, this allows the picture to fill the screen. The next step was to get perfect pixel representation, to do this you have to fiddle with the service menu, here is what I did as a quick reference for those who may not know or don't want to dig around.



Enter the menu and hit 2 4 5 7 on the remote. From there, 0 will get you to the geometry menu, select manual geometry alignment then hit 1 and enter on the remote to exit. This gives perfect pixel representation at the cost of keystone being off but it reads so much better as a desktop and is 100% unnoticeable in any gaming/movies.



Here are my picture settings stolen from the AVS Forums that worked really well.

Picture mode: adv

h pos: 31

v pos: 30

deepfield imager, super res, sharpedge: off

video noise: low

brightness: 33

contrast: 50

color: 31

tint: 31

sharpness: 50

gamma: 2.0

red high: 942

green high: 1023

blue high: 1018

red low: 6

green low: -1

blue low: 0

blue only: off

red adjust: 18,0,0

green adjust: 0,30,3

blue adjust: 0,0,0

Magenta adjust: 23,6,11

cyan adjust: 0,15,15

yellow adjust: 28,22,0

#1
Posted 02/02/2010 04:20 AM   
Thanks for posting the info! glad you are happy. I am suprised you can get away with running without the geometry correction. if i turn it off i get a very wavy screen- internet explorer literally droops on the top middle. i adjusted all the errors out with the geometry correction. I did try playing with it off- and did not notice any image quality difference- its funny we have the exact opposite experience with geometry. I have no issues reading text with it on- but geometry off looks horrible! who knows- maybe my tv was handled roughly during shipping. i have a 65". i have read that the 60 and the 82" inch usually has the best stock geometry! Im sure this info will help others tune there tv! thanks

edit: my bad eyes and distance from the screen fooled me. you are right that the text is much clearer with geometry correction off. my wife helped me with her good eyes- now i just need to see how the poor geometry effects games...i think i can live with a bit of bowing at the top. or maybe ill just switch back and forth between non geo and geo depending on use- it only takes 10 seconds....thx

[quote name='highlife99' post='993652' date='Feb 1 2010, 08:20 PM']I recently picked up a Mits 60" television and 3D vision and must say I am loving it. It looks really amazing in a majority of games, it makes it extremely hard to play anything but. I must say the game that has most surprised me is GTA 4, it takes some adjusting but looks really awesome, not to mention many other games. I would also like to recommend the Mitsubishi line of DLP's, they work outstanding in 3D. I don't experience ghosting issues beyond ones caused by poor rated games. Here are some of my settings for my tv and a couple of GTA pics for the heck of it.

I did have to read up on the Mits as It has issues as a computer monitor, scaling related. I had to create a custom resolution to something like 1824x1028, this allows the picture to fill the screen. The next step was to get perfect pixel representation, to do this you have to fiddle with the service menu, here is what I did as a quick reference for those who may not know or don't want to dig around.

Enter the menu and hit 2 4 5 7 on the remote. From there, 0 will get you to the geometry menu, select manual geometry alignment then hit 1 and enter on the remote to exit. This gives perfect pixel representation at the cost of keystone being off but it reads so much better as a desktop and is 100% unnoticeable in any gaming/movies.

Here are my picture settings stolen from the AVS Forums that worked really well.
Picture mode: adv
h pos: 31
v pos: 30
deepfield imager, super res, sharpedge: off
video noise: low
brightness: 33
contrast: 50
color: 31
tint: 31
sharpness: 50
gamma: 2.0
red high: 942
green high: 1023
blue high: 1018
red low: 6
green low: -1
blue low: 0
blue only: off
red adjust: 18,0,0
green adjust: 0,30,3
blue adjust: 0,0,0
Magenta adjust: 23,6,11
cyan adjust: 0,15,15
yellow adjust: 28,22,0[/quote]
Thanks for posting the info! glad you are happy. I am suprised you can get away with running without the geometry correction. if i turn it off i get a very wavy screen- internet explorer literally droops on the top middle. i adjusted all the errors out with the geometry correction. I did try playing with it off- and did not notice any image quality difference- its funny we have the exact opposite experience with geometry. I have no issues reading text with it on- but geometry off looks horrible! who knows- maybe my tv was handled roughly during shipping. i have a 65". i have read that the 60 and the 82" inch usually has the best stock geometry! Im sure this info will help others tune there tv! thanks



edit: my bad eyes and distance from the screen fooled me. you are right that the text is much clearer with geometry correction off. my wife helped me with her good eyes- now i just need to see how the poor geometry effects games...i think i can live with a bit of bowing at the top. or maybe ill just switch back and forth between non geo and geo depending on use- it only takes 10 seconds....thx



[quote name='highlife99' post='993652' date='Feb 1 2010, 08:20 PM']I recently picked up a Mits 60" television and 3D vision and must say I am loving it. It looks really amazing in a majority of games, it makes it extremely hard to play anything but. I must say the game that has most surprised me is GTA 4, it takes some adjusting but looks really awesome, not to mention many other games. I would also like to recommend the Mitsubishi line of DLP's, they work outstanding in 3D. I don't experience ghosting issues beyond ones caused by poor rated games. Here are some of my settings for my tv and a couple of GTA pics for the heck of it.



I did have to read up on the Mits as It has issues as a computer monitor, scaling related. I had to create a custom resolution to something like 1824x1028, this allows the picture to fill the screen. The next step was to get perfect pixel representation, to do this you have to fiddle with the service menu, here is what I did as a quick reference for those who may not know or don't want to dig around.



Enter the menu and hit 2 4 5 7 on the remote. From there, 0 will get you to the geometry menu, select manual geometry alignment then hit 1 and enter on the remote to exit. This gives perfect pixel representation at the cost of keystone being off but it reads so much better as a desktop and is 100% unnoticeable in any gaming/movies.



Here are my picture settings stolen from the AVS Forums that worked really well.

Picture mode: adv

h pos: 31

v pos: 30

deepfield imager, super res, sharpedge: off

video noise: low

brightness: 33

contrast: 50

color: 31

tint: 31

sharpness: 50

gamma: 2.0

red high: 942

green high: 1023

blue high: 1018

red low: 6

green low: -1

blue low: 0

blue only: off

red adjust: 18,0,0

green adjust: 0,30,3

blue adjust: 0,0,0

Magenta adjust: 23,6,11

cyan adjust: 0,15,15

yellow adjust: 28,22,0

System:

Intel I7 920 overclocked to 4ghz

Asus Rampage Extreme II

2 Ge-force 480 in SLI

GTX 295 PhysX Card

12gb ddr3 2000mhz ram

Intel SSD in RAID 0

BR RW

1000w Sony surround sound

NVIDIA 3D Vision



3d displays tested:



Mitsubishi 65" DLP 3d HDTV (good old 1080p checkerboard since 2007!!!)

Panasonic VT25 (nice 2d but I returned it due to cross talk)

Acer H5360 720p on 130" screen (the best 3d)

23" Acer LCD monitor (horrible cross talk- sold it)

Samsung 65D8000

#2
Posted 02/02/2010 07:29 AM   
GTA4 is definitely very nice in 3D, but I had to turn the shadows off since they were at the wrong depth, which made the game look quite a bit worse. Still a very nice experience though. I was surprised there was no nvidia 3d vision profile for such a big game.
GTA4 is definitely very nice in 3D, but I had to turn the shadows off since they were at the wrong depth, which made the game look quite a bit worse. Still a very nice experience though. I was surprised there was no nvidia 3d vision profile for such a big game.

#3
Posted 02/02/2010 11:26 PM   
[quote name='fish99' post='994210' date='Feb 2 2010, 06:26 PM']GTA4 is definitely very nice in 3D, but I had to turn the shadows off since they were at the wrong depth, which made the game look quite a bit worse. Still a very nice experience though. I was surprised there was no nvidia 3d vision profile for such a big game.[/quote]

I actually found the shadows to be very tolerable. The only thing that sucks is that I used a mod to shrink the crosshair down to a tiny little dot that i can use instead of the 3d sight (cause sometimes it seems to effect performance). The stock, huge, round 2D sight just messed with my eyes too much, but i've found i can't play multiplayer, online or LAN, becayse of the modded file... sooo, that kinda sucks.

I've been playing FC1 and zeno clash again in 3d and they're both really epic and nice. Although zeno clash required me to drop settings to get better framerates, which i havent really had to do in many other, especially source, games (L4D1+2 which are both great in 3d of course, hl2 eps, dark messiah) \hud_crosshair 0 (i think anyways) disables in FC1 and crosshair 0 works in pretty much all source games.
[quote name='fish99' post='994210' date='Feb 2 2010, 06:26 PM']GTA4 is definitely very nice in 3D, but I had to turn the shadows off since they were at the wrong depth, which made the game look quite a bit worse. Still a very nice experience though. I was surprised there was no nvidia 3d vision profile for such a big game.



I actually found the shadows to be very tolerable. The only thing that sucks is that I used a mod to shrink the crosshair down to a tiny little dot that i can use instead of the 3d sight (cause sometimes it seems to effect performance). The stock, huge, round 2D sight just messed with my eyes too much, but i've found i can't play multiplayer, online or LAN, becayse of the modded file... sooo, that kinda sucks.



I've been playing FC1 and zeno clash again in 3d and they're both really epic and nice. Although zeno clash required me to drop settings to get better framerates, which i havent really had to do in many other, especially source, games (L4D1+2 which are both great in 3d of course, hl2 eps, dark messiah) \hud_crosshair 0 (i think anyways) disables in FC1 and crosshair 0 works in pretty much all source games.

Ubelsteiner Rig

Intel Q9550 @ 3.9Ghz

Asus P5E-VM HDMI

4x2GB DDR2-1000

Nvidia GTX 570 (900/1800/2000)

Creative X-Fi

In-Win BR-665

Mitsubishi 60" DLP

#4
Posted 02/10/2010 08:51 PM   
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