I need an EXPERTs help on 3dTV / 3D vision 3d vision vs 3d play
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You think you get what you pay for , because you choose form over function?

You think 240hz is for real? /biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':biggrin:' />

You should read that article more carefully.
You think you get what you pay for , because you choose form over function?



You think 240hz is for real? /biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':biggrin:' />



You should read that article more carefully.

#16
Posted 08/20/2011 04:24 PM   
what i know is 240 is fake. usually TV input is 60hz and amplified that to 120hz right? correct me if im wrong bc im new to this area

so please be just straighrforward , bc ur making me think too much LOL im not that smart =(

haha well, so 120hz, 1080p, i just need to pick a TV from maybe samsung or LG....i know DLP is good but for now i wanna get LED or LCD

so from mylist, what do u recommand? http://www.nvidia.com/object/3dtv-play-system-requirements.html
what i know is 240 is fake. usually TV input is 60hz and amplified that to 120hz right? correct me if im wrong bc im new to this area



so please be just straighrforward , bc ur making me think too much LOL im not that smart =(



haha well, so 120hz, 1080p, i just need to pick a TV from maybe samsung or LG....i know DLP is good but for now i wanna get LED or LCD



so from mylist, what do u recommand? http://www.nvidia.com/object/3dtv-play-system-requirements.html

#17
Posted 08/20/2011 04:51 PM   
Hey man, let me try to offer some advice.

First off. 120Hz is only needed for PC monitors. These are the ones the work with Nvidia 3D Vision glasses (60Hz per eye). There are no real 120Hz+ HDTVs. They all take a 60Hz signal and are able to convert this into higher refresh rates (like 120Hz needed for 3D). But the actual stated refresh, for example 240Hz, is somewhat bogus since the content is still 60Hz. Next, 3D HDTVs can only game in 720P 3D due to a limitation of HDMI 1.4a. You can, however watch Blu-Ray 3D at 1080P since this is at 24Hz. So this will not be as good quality as a 3D Vision monitor, which can play 3D at the full 1080P 60Hz and 2D at 1080P 120Hz. It should still look pretty cool, but you should know in advance.

In general DLP has the least ghosting, then Plasma, then LCD. But recent TVs mostly look pretty good so this is not a huge issue anymore. The best 3D I've seen is on the Sony Bravia line. The one I saw was a 60" for around $5,000, but they have gone down in price since then. The Panasonic Viera TVs are very good also, and should be more affordable. I've also seen the Sasmung Plasma, but they were only showing 2D content, though it looked very good. For your price range the Panasonic Viera is probably the best bet, like the GT25 ( http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-VIERA-TC-P50GT25-50-inch-Plasma/dp/B0040Q93PI ). Its reasonably priced. But I haven't seen this model, I saw the more expensive VT25, so I am not sure if its as good. If you'd rather go with LCD, then the Samsung UN46C8000 is probably a good choice ( http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-UN46C8000-46-Inch-1080p-HDTV/dp/B0036WT4EW/ ).
Hey man, let me try to offer some advice.



First off. 120Hz is only needed for PC monitors. These are the ones the work with Nvidia 3D Vision glasses (60Hz per eye). There are no real 120Hz+ HDTVs. They all take a 60Hz signal and are able to convert this into higher refresh rates (like 120Hz needed for 3D). But the actual stated refresh, for example 240Hz, is somewhat bogus since the content is still 60Hz. Next, 3D HDTVs can only game in 720P 3D due to a limitation of HDMI 1.4a. You can, however watch Blu-Ray 3D at 1080P since this is at 24Hz. So this will not be as good quality as a 3D Vision monitor, which can play 3D at the full 1080P 60Hz and 2D at 1080P 120Hz. It should still look pretty cool, but you should know in advance.



In general DLP has the least ghosting, then Plasma, then LCD. But recent TVs mostly look pretty good so this is not a huge issue anymore. The best 3D I've seen is on the Sony Bravia line. The one I saw was a 60" for around $5,000, but they have gone down in price since then. The Panasonic Viera TVs are very good also, and should be more affordable. I've also seen the Sasmung Plasma, but they were only showing 2D content, though it looked very good. For your price range the Panasonic Viera is probably the best bet, like the GT25 ( http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-VIERA-TC-P50GT25-50-inch-Plasma/dp/B0040Q93PI ). Its reasonably priced. But I haven't seen this model, I saw the more expensive VT25, so I am not sure if its as good. If you'd rather go with LCD, then the Samsung UN46C8000 is probably a good choice ( http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-UN46C8000-46-Inch-1080p-HDTV/dp/B0036WT4EW/ ).
#18
Posted 08/20/2011 05:03 PM   
Ignore Tritosine2K, he has never seen Mits DLP and it's screen door effect.
Pass on passive, CB doesn't work and all other native resolution modes aren't supported by nvidia.
3DTV Play is hideous.
Go with samsung, the only way to get native rez gaming at full framerate with 3D Vision.
Finally, disregard the TV requirements on the nvidia site, they are incomplete. Many TVs work that are not listed.
And don't get the 55D6900, it doesn't support native rez gaming.
Ignore Tritosine2K, he has never seen Mits DLP and it's screen door effect.

Pass on passive, CB doesn't work and all other native resolution modes aren't supported by nvidia.

3DTV Play is hideous.

Go with samsung, the only way to get native rez gaming at full framerate with 3D Vision.

Finally, disregard the TV requirements on the nvidia site, they are incomplete. Many TVs work that are not listed.

And don't get the 55D6900, it doesn't support native rez gaming.

#19
Posted 08/20/2011 05:10 PM   
LCD has 40% aperture, and DLP has 90% . This means DLP has no screendoor , but LCD has screendoor.

BTW beancounting pixel maniac parrots like Roller should be ignored. Maybe he even makes money outta that checkerboard nonsense or he's on Samsung's payroll.

Dude just go over avsforum.com for advice, I told you long ago , don't believe this biased " 3DTV-s are coolest thing ever" , its bull **** , just like 240hz.
LCD has 40% aperture, and DLP has 90% . This means DLP has no screendoor , but LCD has screendoor.



BTW beancounting pixel maniac parrots like Roller should be ignored. Maybe he even makes money outta that checkerboard nonsense or he's on Samsung's payroll.



Dude just go over avsforum.com for advice, I told you long ago , don't believe this biased " 3DTV-s are coolest thing ever" , its bull **** , just like 240hz.

#20
Posted 08/20/2011 05:53 PM   
im going with UN55D6900 At best buy for 2000 dollar + tax

they give out 10.1 galaxy tab (499dollars) so ur basically getting that TV for 1500 and free 3d player,3d kit

and i needed galaxy tab anyway
im going with UN55D6900 At best buy for 2000 dollar + tax



they give out 10.1 galaxy tab (499dollars) so ur basically getting that TV for 1500 and free 3d player,3d kit



and i needed galaxy tab anyway

#21
Posted 08/20/2011 08:36 PM   
Roller, why did you not tell him about Checkerboard?! Then the guy that hates you would comment and tell Nostalgia how you always talk about checkerboard. This thread has been a dissapointment to me....hmph...haha j/k. I cannot offer a lot of advice. I love my Samsung setup I have no issues. I am not an audio or video phile dude, though.
Roller, why did you not tell him about Checkerboard?! Then the guy that hates you would comment and tell Nostalgia how you always talk about checkerboard. This thread has been a dissapointment to me....hmph...haha j/k. I cannot offer a lot of advice. I love my Samsung setup I have no issues. I am not an audio or video phile dude, though.

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#22
Posted 08/21/2011 12:01 AM   
Theres a good chance both LG and Samsung will be banned from selling that bunch of bogus, after they loose the LED patent war /biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':biggrin:' />

Oh , and roller talked about checkerboard, too bad you can't even read between the lines?
Theres a good chance both LG and Samsung will be banned from selling that bunch of bogus, after they loose the LED patent war /biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':biggrin:' />



Oh , and roller talked about checkerboard, too bad you can't even read between the lines?

#23
Posted 08/21/2011 05:57 AM   
[quote]"Samsung LED intends to vigorously enforce its intellectual property rights, and these lawsuits reflect Samsung LED's commitment to that enforcement," the company said in a release.

"Osram is well prepared regarding possible actions by Samsung," said Stefan Schmidt, Osram's head of media relations.

Samsung LED is alleging infringement of eight patents covering what it calls "core" LED technologies used in products such as lighting, automobiles, projectors, mobile phone screens and TVs.

Semiconductor-based LEDs, or light emitting diodes, are becoming increasingly popular for their durability and energy-saving capability.

Samsung LED also suggested it could expand the scope of the USITC case.

"As new information becomes available it will continue to evaluate the potential to add additional parties who may be importing, using or selling the accused Osram LEDs in the U.S. market," the company said in the release.

Samsung LED was established in 2009 as a joint venture between Samsung Electronics Co. and Samsung Electro-Mechanics Co.

Such complaints and lawsuits over patents are common in the global technology industry and seldom lead to market disruptions as disputes take months or years to resolve and typically end with payments of licensing fees rather than import bans.

Still, they highlight the intensity of competition in which technological advantage can give companies a key edge in attracting consumers.

Rochester, New York-based Eastman Kodak Co. has an ongoing patent dispute over photo technology at the USITC with Apple Inc. of Cupertino, California, and BlackBerry maker Research in Motion Ltd. of Waterloo, Canada.
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Samsung companies are taking an aggressive stance in global technology patent wars.[/size]

Samsung Electronics is embroiled in multiple complaints and lawsuits with Apple over smartphone and tablet technology. [size="4"]Separately, Samsung and Taiwan's AU Optronics Corp. have launched legal actions against each other[/size] over alleged patent infringement in liquid crystal displays.[/quote]


Bet Things Get ugly very soon. /biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':biggrin:' />

Fanboys like Roller will be all butthurt, after endorsing that bogus conglomerate brand FOR YEARS /biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':biggrin:' />

"hold on!! we need to get Samsung with checkerboard before they ban it!!"

Poor sap... err.. Poor Parrot...

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"Samsung LED intends to vigorously enforce its intellectual property rights, and these lawsuits reflect Samsung LED's commitment to that enforcement," the company said in a release.



"Osram is well prepared regarding possible actions by Samsung," said Stefan Schmidt, Osram's head of media relations.



Samsung LED is alleging infringement of eight patents covering what it calls "core" LED technologies used in products such as lighting, automobiles, projectors, mobile phone screens and TVs.



Semiconductor-based LEDs, or light emitting diodes, are becoming increasingly popular for their durability and energy-saving capability.



Samsung LED also suggested it could expand the scope of the USITC case.



"As new information becomes available it will continue to evaluate the potential to add additional parties who may be importing, using or selling the accused Osram LEDs in the U.S. market," the company said in the release.



Samsung LED was established in 2009 as a joint venture between Samsung Electronics Co. and Samsung Electro-Mechanics Co.



Such complaints and lawsuits over patents are common in the global technology industry and seldom lead to market disruptions as disputes take months or years to resolve and typically end with payments of licensing fees rather than import bans.



Still, they highlight the intensity of competition in which technological advantage can give companies a key edge in attracting consumers.



Rochester, New York-based Eastman Kodak Co. has an ongoing patent dispute over photo technology at the USITC with Apple Inc. of Cupertino, California, and BlackBerry maker Research in Motion Ltd. of Waterloo, Canada.



Samsung companies are taking an aggressive stance in global technology patent wars.



Samsung Electronics is embroiled in multiple complaints and lawsuits with Apple over smartphone and tablet technology. Separately, Samsung and Taiwan's AU Optronics Corp. have launched legal actions against each other over alleged patent infringement in liquid crystal displays.






Bet Things Get ugly very soon. /biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':biggrin:' />



Fanboys like Roller will be all butthurt, after endorsing that bogus conglomerate brand FOR YEARS /biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':biggrin:' />



"hold on!! we need to get Samsung with checkerboard before they ban it!!"



Poor sap... err.. Poor Parrot...



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#24
Posted 08/21/2011 06:06 AM   
okay NO one actually gave me the anwswer i want..question is very simlpe

i want either LCD/LED. 50 inch above. under 2000 dollars. will be used as daily monitor and some 3d games.

so question is upon my requrement, which setup, 3dtv or 3d vision is better,

and if i pick out of samsung, what do you recommand for the best quality of 3d games and movies

please recommand me a TV that supports.*

i pick 55d6900, or 55D7000 but any other sugggestion?
okay NO one actually gave me the anwswer i want..question is very simlpe



i want either LCD/LED. 50 inch above. under 2000 dollars. will be used as daily monitor and some 3d games.



so question is upon my requrement, which setup, 3dtv or 3d vision is better,



and if i pick out of samsung, what do you recommand for the best quality of 3d games and movies



please recommand me a TV that supports.*



i pick 55d6900, or 55D7000 but any other sugggestion?

#25
Posted 08/21/2011 05:06 PM   
Did you get my 9:30 am PM?
Did you get my 9:30 am PM?

#26
Posted 08/21/2011 05:33 PM   
hahaha, check this out, todays news has your bogus stuff covered:
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/home-theater/best-buys-samsung-hdtv-and-galaxy-tab-combo-offer-bundling-two-losing-products-together/5187
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Best Buy's Samsung HDTV and Galaxy Tab combo offer: "Bundling two losing products together"?[/size][/quote]
hahaha, check this out, todays news has your bogus stuff covered:

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/home-theater/best-buys-samsung-hdtv-and-galaxy-tab-combo-offer-bundling-two-losing-products-together/5187



Best Buy's Samsung HDTV and Galaxy Tab combo offer: "Bundling two losing products together"?

#27
Posted 08/21/2011 06:01 PM   
You've oversold your irrational hatred of Samsung, nobody believes you anymore.
You've oversold your irrational hatred of Samsung, nobody believes you anymore.

#28
Posted 08/21/2011 06:29 PM   
Yea, they should believe a beancounter parroting checkerboard nonsense everywhere,
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dude, face it , you don't have the slightest idea what you're talking about , screendoor with DLP , what a telltale , amazing.
Yea, they should believe a beancounter parroting checkerboard nonsense everywhere,

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dude, face it , you don't have the slightest idea what you're talking about , screendoor with DLP , what a telltale , amazing.

#29
Posted 08/21/2011 07:10 PM   
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-UN55D7000-55-Inch-1080p-Silver/dp/B004O6MN7O/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1313996240&sr=8-1


i ordered this TV. =) HELP was greatly appreciated.

just one more quesiton this TV doens't come with 3d glass, since im using 3d vision, (which i ordred already as well)

if i need one or more glasses, is it better to get it from samsung 3D glass? or nvidia 3d vision glass? or doenst' really matter



you state that nvidia glasses will not work, so im using nvidia 3d vision kit (emitor only) and manufacture glass?
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-UN55D7000-55-Inch-1080p-Silver/dp/B004O6MN7O/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1313996240&sr=8-1





i ordered this TV. =) HELP was greatly appreciated.



just one more quesiton this TV doens't come with 3d glass, since im using 3d vision, (which i ordred already as well)



if i need one or more glasses, is it better to get it from samsung 3D glass? or nvidia 3d vision glass? or doenst' really matter







you state that nvidia glasses will not work, so im using nvidia 3d vision kit (emitor only) and manufacture glass?

#30
Posted 08/22/2011 07:03 AM   
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