They're mods. And injectors at that. It's always been an asterisk that these things could technically get you banned from an online game. And since Rockstar has always controlled their online servers, they've always been able to ban you at their whim.
Are they likely to ban you for using a 3D Helix fix? No. It'd be incredibly stupid and they'd get major PR backlash from doing something so stupid. But technically, it's always been a risk you had to assume.
This new initiative seems more related to smaller developers (who don't run their own online services). Smaller developers, however, also tend to be in tune with their audience. So I doubly doubt any one of them would be dumb enough to ban over a purely cosmetic injector.
They're mods. And injectors at that. It's always been an asterisk that these things could technically get you banned from an online game. And since Rockstar has always controlled their online servers, they've always been able to ban you at their whim.
Are they likely to ban you for using a 3D Helix fix? No. It'd be incredibly stupid and they'd get major PR backlash from doing something so stupid. But technically, it's always been a risk you had to assume.
This new initiative seems more related to smaller developers (who don't run their own online services). Smaller developers, however, also tend to be in tune with their audience. So I doubly doubt any one of them would be dumb enough to ban over a purely cosmetic injector.
[quote="Paul33993"]This new initiative seems more related to smaller developers[/quote]
it was coming from Rockstar, actually. it is good there is no need to use fix for gta5.
[quote="mistersvin"][quote="Paul33993"]This new initiative seems more related to smaller developers[/quote]
it was coming from Rockstar, actually. it is good there is no need to use fix for gta5.[/quote]
Just went and looked at Eurogamer to see exactly what this was. It's some grade A bullSH@T from Rockstar.
Here's the thing: Rockstar has always run their own service for GTA online play. So they could ban you from online play whenever they thought it appropriate. Now it seems they can have the game banned from your account? If that's the policy, that's pretty outrageous on behalf of Rockstar/Valve.
It still doesn't change the fact Rockstar always had the potential to ban you for using injectors. It just means now they can ban you from flat out ever playing the game again (instead of just banning you from online play). That's a pretty nuclear option. If they start banning people for things like Helix/SweetFX, the internet will burn them at the stake. If they thought the Skyrim paid mods was a debacle, they'll really have outrage if this starts getting abused.
EDIT: It seems like the Eurogamer article may have sensationalized things? How easy was it for people to create duplicate Rockstar Social accounts? I honestly never signed up for it and just did my single player through GFWL. I'm guessing it was easy to just create a duplicate account if banned online? So this probably is a good policy. If you purchase the game through Steam, and Rockstar bans you for cheating online, there should be a way to prevent these people from just creating a new Rockstar ID (for ONLINE play). Their Steam account should be flagged for that game and prevent them from continuing their actions.
Having said this, I'm referring to real cheats. The day Rockstar starts going after injectors like Helix/SweetFX is the day the internet melts to its core.
Paul33993 said:This new initiative seems more related to smaller developers
it was coming from Rockstar, actually. it is good there is no need to use fix for gta5.
Just went and looked at Eurogamer to see exactly what this was. It's some grade A bullSH@T from Rockstar.
Here's the thing: Rockstar has always run their own service for GTA online play. So they could ban you from online play whenever they thought it appropriate. Now it seems they can have the game banned from your account? If that's the policy, that's pretty outrageous on behalf of Rockstar/Valve.
It still doesn't change the fact Rockstar always had the potential to ban you for using injectors. It just means now they can ban you from flat out ever playing the game again (instead of just banning you from online play). That's a pretty nuclear option. If they start banning people for things like Helix/SweetFX, the internet will burn them at the stake. If they thought the Skyrim paid mods was a debacle, they'll really have outrage if this starts getting abused.
EDIT: It seems like the Eurogamer article may have sensationalized things? How easy was it for people to create duplicate Rockstar Social accounts? I honestly never signed up for it and just did my single player through GFWL. I'm guessing it was easy to just create a duplicate account if banned online? So this probably is a good policy. If you purchase the game through Steam, and Rockstar bans you for cheating online, there should be a way to prevent these people from just creating a new Rockstar ID (for ONLINE play). Their Steam account should be flagged for that game and prevent them from continuing their actions.
Having said this, I'm referring to real cheats. The day Rockstar starts going after injectors like Helix/SweetFX is the day the internet melts to its core.
If you look on YouTube, there are all kinds of crazy hacks for GTA 5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Da0IgiZJ1oE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdWspJvUNQ0
Yeah. I don't have a problem with Rockstar wanting to keep garbage out of their online game (and ruining other's experience). Can't believe they'd ever go after Helix/SweetFX since they're completely cosmetic and don't affect others experience at all.
A lot of this is just stupid. If they need Valve's help (somehow) in order to keep the multi-player servers clean of this non-sense, sounds completely reasonable to me.
Yeah. I don't have a problem with Rockstar wanting to keep garbage out of their online game (and ruining other's experience). Can't believe they'd ever go after Helix/SweetFX since they're completely cosmetic and don't affect others experience at all.
A lot of this is just stupid. If they need Valve's help (somehow) in order to keep the multi-player servers clean of this non-sense, sounds completely reasonable to me.
The tricky bit will be whether they can tell Helix/SweetFX from some cheap wall hack that makes walls semi-transparent.
There's still VERY little know about how all this works. Naturally, the Internet's Most Paranoid are making up their own stories about what will 'obviously' happen. We'll have to wait and see what really happens.
The tricky bit will be whether they can tell Helix/SweetFX from some cheap wall hack that makes walls semi-transparent.
There's still VERY little know about how all this works. Naturally, the Internet's Most Paranoid are making up their own stories about what will 'obviously' happen. We'll have to wait and see what really happens.
The very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common. Instead of altering their views to fit the facts, they alter the facts to fit their views ... which can be very uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that needs altering.
Seems like the usual wild exaggerations from one-off mods or machinima. Remember the Hot Coffee mod built into GTA long back? How about teabagging in Halo? This stuff has been going on for years and years. Makes for a good "news at 11" though.
Hell, how about the required torture sequence in GTA5 itself? But the part that hits the news is a virtual rape youtube video?
Still within R*'s prerogative to ban people for dumb stuff like this, just seems out of character to now say there's a line. You know, simulated bank robbery and simulated torture, sure that's totally OK, but simulated rape- no way that's right out. Huh?
Edit: Agree with PirateGuyBrush, it's all click-bait, and I fell for it.
Seems like the usual wild exaggerations from one-off mods or machinima. Remember the Hot Coffee mod built into GTA long back? How about teabagging in Halo? This stuff has been going on for years and years. Makes for a good "news at 11" though.
Hell, how about the required torture sequence in GTA5 itself? But the part that hits the news is a virtual rape youtube video?
Still within R*'s prerogative to ban people for dumb stuff like this, just seems out of character to now say there's a line. You know, simulated bank robbery and simulated torture, sure that's totally OK, but simulated rape- no way that's right out. Huh?
Edit: Agree with PirateGuyBrush, it's all click-bait, and I fell for it.
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Devs have had the power to ban people for mods for years. Maybe not via Steam, but certainly on their own servers. Yet we've had no reports of a helixmod, 3dmigoto, sweetfx, etc ban. I really don't think there's anything to worry about.
Also, can I please request we don't go down the rabbit hole of talking about rape in games? Regardless of anyone's views, that discussion is a slippery slope that could quite easily devolve into unpleasantness one way or another. The recent ugliness in the gaming community seems to have been pretty much ignored here, and I'd rather we keep it that way.
Devs have had the power to ban people for mods for years. Maybe not via Steam, but certainly on their own servers. Yet we've had no reports of a helixmod, 3dmigoto, sweetfx, etc ban. I really don't think there's anything to worry about.
Also, can I please request we don't go down the rabbit hole of talking about rape in games? Regardless of anyone's views, that discussion is a slippery slope that could quite easily devolve into unpleasantness one way or another. The recent ugliness in the gaming community seems to have been pretty much ignored here, and I'd rather we keep it that way.
Are they likely to ban you for using a 3D Helix fix? No. It'd be incredibly stupid and they'd get major PR backlash from doing something so stupid. But technically, it's always been a risk you had to assume.
This new initiative seems more related to smaller developers (who don't run their own online services). Smaller developers, however, also tend to be in tune with their audience. So I doubly doubt any one of them would be dumb enough to ban over a purely cosmetic injector.
it was coming from Rockstar, actually. it is good there is no need to use fix for gta5.
Just went and looked at Eurogamer to see exactly what this was. It's some grade A bullSH@T from Rockstar.
Here's the thing: Rockstar has always run their own service for GTA online play. So they could ban you from online play whenever they thought it appropriate. Now it seems they can have the game banned from your account? If that's the policy, that's pretty outrageous on behalf of Rockstar/Valve.
It still doesn't change the fact Rockstar always had the potential to ban you for using injectors. It just means now they can ban you from flat out ever playing the game again (instead of just banning you from online play). That's a pretty nuclear option. If they start banning people for things like Helix/SweetFX, the internet will burn them at the stake. If they thought the Skyrim paid mods was a debacle, they'll really have outrage if this starts getting abused.
EDIT: It seems like the Eurogamer article may have sensationalized things? How easy was it for people to create duplicate Rockstar Social accounts? I honestly never signed up for it and just did my single player through GFWL. I'm guessing it was easy to just create a duplicate account if banned online? So this probably is a good policy. If you purchase the game through Steam, and Rockstar bans you for cheating online, there should be a way to prevent these people from just creating a new Rockstar ID (for ONLINE play). Their Steam account should be flagged for that game and prevent them from continuing their actions.
Having said this, I'm referring to real cheats. The day Rockstar starts going after injectors like Helix/SweetFX is the day the internet melts to its core.
A lot of this is just stupid. If they need Valve's help (somehow) in order to keep the multi-player servers clean of this non-sense, sounds completely reasonable to me.
There's still VERY little know about how all this works. Naturally, the Internet's Most Paranoid are making up their own stories about what will 'obviously' happen. We'll have to wait and see what really happens.
The very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common. Instead of altering their views to fit the facts, they alter the facts to fit their views ... which can be very uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that needs altering.
-- Doctor Who, "Face of Evil"
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Hell, how about the required torture sequence in GTA5 itself? But the part that hits the news is a virtual rape youtube video?
Still within R*'s prerogative to ban people for dumb stuff like this, just seems out of character to now say there's a line. You know, simulated bank robbery and simulated torture, sure that's totally OK, but simulated rape- no way that's right out. Huh?
Edit: Agree with PirateGuyBrush, it's all click-bait, and I fell for it.
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Latest 3Dmigoto Release
Bo3b's School for ShaderHackers
Also, can I please request we don't go down the rabbit hole of talking about rape in games? Regardless of anyone's views, that discussion is a slippery slope that could quite easily devolve into unpleasantness one way or another. The recent ugliness in the gaming community seems to have been pretty much ignored here, and I'd rather we keep it that way.