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In case it helps with future info subjects:
I now have experience with 4k passive 3d.
Turning on stereoscopic 3d while on my LG 55UF850V tv activates the tv's built in 3d modus.
Not able of adjusting any 3d via nVidia settings, but in the tv software with the remote.
It may not be as rank as anaglyph, but putting settings to max depth certainly changes the view.
In case it helps with future info subjects:
I now have experience with 4k passive 3d.
Turning on stereoscopic 3d while on my LG 55UF850V tv activates the tv's built in 3d modus.
Not able of adjusting any 3d via nVidia settings, but in the tv software with the remote.
It may not be as rank as anaglyph, but putting settings to max depth certainly changes the view.
Grandaelus - have you tried using any of the (non-damaging) 4K EDID override mods found in other discussions in this forum? They work great with your LG, providing up to 3840x1080 pixels per eye @ 60 Hz with 3D Vision. For a starting point, see the link in my earlier post in this thread (the OLED version should work for you, as well).
Grandaelus - have you tried using any of the (non-damaging) 4K EDID override mods found in other discussions in this forum? They work great with your LG, providing up to 3840x1080 pixels per eye @ 60 Hz with 3D Vision. For a starting point, see the link in my earlier post in this thread (the OLED version should work for you, as well).
[quote="SONY 123456"][quote="Metal-O-Holic"]yes there is imersion still in monitor. but i gotta disagree that big sceen is the same as monitor or tv viewed from a specific distance. It theoreticly is but no IT´s not the same.
I don´t say there is nothing wrong with choosing a monitor or OLED tv. there is menefits there also.
[/quote]
This is what my friends which do not have projector used to say. Once I did show them playin on projector including 3D, they want the same. Comparing monitor and Projector is silly.
[b][color="orange"]For thread creator - go for projector, forget monitors. You will use it not only for 3D, but also for Movies. There is no better way in 3D Vision world.[/color]
[/b][/quote]
better than 3D Surround?
Metal-O-Holic said:yes there is imersion still in monitor. but i gotta disagree that big sceen is the same as monitor or tv viewed from a specific distance. It theoreticly is but no IT´s not the same.
I don´t say there is nothing wrong with choosing a monitor or OLED tv. there is menefits there also.
This is what my friends which do not have projector used to say. Once I did show them playin on projector including 3D, they want the same. Comparing monitor and Projector is silly.
For thread creator - go for projector, forget monitors. You will use it not only for 3D, but also for Movies. There is no better way in 3D Vision world.
better than 3D Surround?
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[quote="J-Enermax"]
better than 3D Surround? [/quote]
Hehe, yes! Also way less taxing on the GPU so you can DSR easily, less of a compatability headache, and you can enjoy much more content and share it all with family+friends :)
Surround is superb, but not as good as a good projector setup, in my (and many other people's) humble opinion.
I would be very careful to choose a 120Hz projector though, to ensure I get 120FPS gaming (and desktop) when not in 3D. Most 3D projectors are not 120Hz/120fps compatible which is a big no-no for me personally.
There is a recent thread showing a working 4K projector at 1080p 120Hz 3D Vision with inf hack.
[url]https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/1052371/3d-vision/1920-x-1080-120hz-in-3d-yes-/[/url]
Hehe, yes! Also way less taxing on the GPU so you can DSR easily, less of a compatability headache, and you can enjoy much more content and share it all with family+friends :)
Surround is superb, but not as good as a good projector setup, in my (and many other people's) humble opinion.
I would be very careful to choose a 120Hz projector though, to ensure I get 120FPS gaming (and desktop) when not in 3D. Most 3D projectors are not 120Hz/120fps compatible which is a big no-no for me personally.
There is a recent thread showing a working 4K projector at 1080p 120Hz 3D Vision with inf hack.
[quote="RAGEdemon"][quote="J-Enermax"]
better than 3D Surround? [/quote]
Hehe, yes! Also way less taxing on the GPU so you can DSR easily, less of a compatability headache, and you can enjoy much more content and share it all with family+friends :)
Surround is superb, but not as good as a good projector setup, in my (and many other people's) humble opinion.
I would be very careful to choose a 120Hz projector though, to ensure I get 120FPS gaming (and desktop) when not in 3D. Most 3D projectors are not 120Hz/120fps compatible which is a big no-no for me personally.
There is a recent thread showing a working 4K projector at 1080p 120Hz 3D Vision with inf hack.
[url]https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/1052371/3d-vision/1920-x-1080-120hz-in-3d-yes-/[/url][/quote]
hmm.. so basically it's like playing on my 2016 3D LG OLED 65", but a little bit bigger with washed out color and room have to be completely dark?
Not dissing the projector crowd, just wondering if the tech is good enough to invest?
Hehe, yes! Also way less taxing on the GPU so you can DSR easily, less of a compatability headache, and you can enjoy much more content and share it all with family+friends :)
Surround is superb, but not as good as a good projector setup, in my (and many other people's) humble opinion.
I would be very careful to choose a 120Hz projector though, to ensure I get 120FPS gaming (and desktop) when not in 3D. Most 3D projectors are not 120Hz/120fps compatible which is a big no-no for me personally.
There is a recent thread showing a working 4K projector at 1080p 120Hz 3D Vision with inf hack.
Up to you, though you seem to have some wrong ideas about projectors.
Do you go to the movies? Why if you can watch them on your 65" OLED?
Why not ask your friends if they would rather watch a movie on your 65" OLED for free or pay $10 to go to the projector movies? I think majority of people would prefer the movie experience.
I and others are happy and at times actually prefer a dark room as it is more immersive - what 3DV is all about. Also, screen size depends on how much room you have - if you can only fit a "little bit bigger" than 65" screen, then hardly worth it. I'm personally running ~200", but there's no limit, within reason of course.
Up to you, though you seem to have some wrong ideas about projectors.
Do you go to the movies? Why if you can watch them on your 65" OLED?
Why not ask your friends if they would rather watch a movie on your 65" OLED for free or pay $10 to go to the projector movies? I think majority of people would prefer the movie experience.
I and others are happy and at times actually prefer a dark room as it is more immersive - what 3DV is all about. Also, screen size depends on how much room you have - if you can only fit a "little bit bigger" than 65" screen, then hardly worth it. I'm personally running ~200", but there's no limit, within reason of course.
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^Still haven' talked about the inherent washed out color problem with Projector. So is this still a thing or have this been fixed?
I lol'ed at whenever ppl bring up the "dark room immersion". Remind me of my high school day when there was always this one guy bitching about turning off the light when we watched some documentary for class. I venture a guess that it has nothing to do with immersion and more to do with the shittiness of the inherent washed out color/blackness when we use projector. And it's easier for him to nap in class without getting caught (which he did all the time LOL)
Btw, isn't watching movie in the dark bad for your eyes? ;)
I am not sure if a commercial item like a movie theater projector could be comparable to a consumer item like an OLED big screen TV since we talk about the huge difference in size/cost/tech. Like asking me if I like the F1 versus my everyday sedan
If we are to compare apple to apple, maybe we could talk about the current offering of consumer grade projector vs consumer grade TV set? Back to the original inquiry, have the 2018 tech advanced far enough to justify bringing a short throw projector into our living room?
^Still haven' talked about the inherent washed out color problem with Projector. So is this still a thing or have this been fixed?
I lol'ed at whenever ppl bring up the "dark room immersion". Remind me of my high school day when there was always this one guy bitching about turning off the light when we watched some documentary for class. I venture a guess that it has nothing to do with immersion and more to do with the shittiness of the inherent washed out color/blackness when we use projector. And it's easier for him to nap in class without getting caught (which he did all the time LOL)
Btw, isn't watching movie in the dark bad for your eyes? ;)
I am not sure if a commercial item like a movie theater projector could be comparable to a consumer item like an OLED big screen TV since we talk about the huge difference in size/cost/tech. Like asking me if I like the F1 versus my everyday sedan
If we are to compare apple to apple, maybe we could talk about the current offering of consumer grade projector vs consumer grade TV set? Back to the original inquiry, have the 2018 tech advanced far enough to justify bringing a short throw projector into our living room?
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[quote="J-Enermax"]^Still haven' talked about the inherent washed out color problem with Projector. So is this still a thing or have this been fixed?[/quote]
Projectors have never had this problem. Can you explain what you mean?
Projectors contrast depends heavily on room darkness. A bright room will have the blacks/darkest colours as bright as the light, hence the washed out colours... this is simply how projectors work, and why it is crucial to have a dark room.
[quote="J-Enermax"]I lol'ed at whenever ppl bring up the "dark room immersion".[/quote]
Why? Cinemas darken the room for immersion. VR darkens the room for immersion. Try watching a horror movie with the lights on and tell me there is no difference between the lights on and off.
A dark room removes peripheral distractions. It is a long standing and proven technique. Why are you laughing?
[quote="J-Enermax"]Btw, isn't watching movie in the dark bad for your eyes? ;)[/quote]
Umm, no? Countless studies have proven viewing or reading in the dark has no impact on our eye sight or its development. I think you are confused about a few things buddy ;-)
[quote="J-Enermax"]If we are to compare apple to apple, maybe we could talk about the current offering of consumer grade projector vs consumer grade TV set? Back to the original inquiry, have the 2018 tech advanced far enough to justify bringing a short throw projector into our living room?[/quote]
A good home projector is as good if not better than a cinema experience in many ways, except maybe sheer size.
There are literally multiple threads regarding new projector tech over the first few pages of this forum, and have been for weeks. I literally linked one above. I have noticed in other threads that you miss a lot of information from people's replies, and end up asking the same questions over and over when they have been answered in detail in that thread or other threads on the main page, some even that you started... Why not go read through them and enlighten yourself, and then make up your own mind my good man? ;-)
J-Enermax said:^Still haven' talked about the inherent washed out color problem with Projector. So is this still a thing or have this been fixed?
Projectors have never had this problem. Can you explain what you mean?
Projectors contrast depends heavily on room darkness. A bright room will have the blacks/darkest colours as bright as the light, hence the washed out colours... this is simply how projectors work, and why it is crucial to have a dark room.
J-Enermax said:I lol'ed at whenever ppl bring up the "dark room immersion".
Why? Cinemas darken the room for immersion. VR darkens the room for immersion. Try watching a horror movie with the lights on and tell me there is no difference between the lights on and off.
A dark room removes peripheral distractions. It is a long standing and proven technique. Why are you laughing?
J-Enermax said:Btw, isn't watching movie in the dark bad for your eyes? ;)
Umm, no? Countless studies have proven viewing or reading in the dark has no impact on our eye sight or its development. I think you are confused about a few things buddy ;-)
J-Enermax said:If we are to compare apple to apple, maybe we could talk about the current offering of consumer grade projector vs consumer grade TV set? Back to the original inquiry, have the 2018 tech advanced far enough to justify bringing a short throw projector into our living room?
A good home projector is as good if not better than a cinema experience in many ways, except maybe sheer size.
There are literally multiple threads regarding new projector tech over the first few pages of this forum, and have been for weeks. I literally linked one above. I have noticed in other threads that you miss a lot of information from people's replies, and end up asking the same questions over and over when they have been answered in detail in that thread or other threads on the main page, some even that you started... Why not go read through them and enlighten yourself, and then make up your own mind my good man? ;-)
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[quote="J-Enermax"]^Still haven' talked about the inherent washed out color problem with Projector. So is this still a thing or have this been fixed?
I lol'ed at whenever ppl bring up the "dark room immersion". Remind me of my high school day when there was always this one guy bitching about turning off the light when we watched some documentary for class. I venture a guess that it has nothing to do with immersion and more to do with the shittiness of the inherent washed out color/blackness when we use projector. And it's easier for him to nap in class without getting caught (which he did all the time LOL)
Btw, isn't watching movie in the dark bad for your eyes? ;)
I am not sure if a commercial item like a movie theater projector could be comparable to a consumer item like an OLED big screen TV since we talk about the huge difference in size/cost/tech. Like asking me if I like the F1 versus my everyday sedan
If we are to compare apple to apple, maybe we could talk about the current offering of consumer grade projector vs consumer grade TV set? Back to the original inquiry, have the 2018 tech advanced far enough to justify bringing a short throw projector into our living room?[/quote]
You have a wierd way of thinking about ambient light. I can’t even image how can you get imersed let’s say playing an night scene with lights on and you can see everything around you. I can tell you Atleast my. Setup in 3d video quality is much better than any commersial theater in my country. And Yeah it can only be done with projectors. Im still amazed everytime i start gaming how awsome thr 3d is. Though my current projectors have lots of problems and Are old. I got a new oled 4k tv, though its 2D only, it Took me a week to get used to it. Shure the blacks Are great and the image is sharp, but thats it. Its small and the image does not wow me At all after two weeks.
Offcourse i don’t wanna hall out my old tv but if this Was my choise for theater i think id pack up my Things and just game on tv.
No matter if its 70” its still small, and with those prices id ratter buy Couple good projectors.
J-Enermax said:^Still haven' talked about the inherent washed out color problem with Projector. So is this still a thing or have this been fixed?
I lol'ed at whenever ppl bring up the "dark room immersion". Remind me of my high school day when there was always this one guy bitching about turning off the light when we watched some documentary for class. I venture a guess that it has nothing to do with immersion and more to do with the shittiness of the inherent washed out color/blackness when we use projector. And it's easier for him to nap in class without getting caught (which he did all the time LOL)
Btw, isn't watching movie in the dark bad for your eyes? ;)
I am not sure if a commercial item like a movie theater projector could be comparable to a consumer item like an OLED big screen TV since we talk about the huge difference in size/cost/tech. Like asking me if I like the F1 versus my everyday sedan
If we are to compare apple to apple, maybe we could talk about the current offering of consumer grade projector vs consumer grade TV set? Back to the original inquiry, have the 2018 tech advanced far enough to justify bringing a short throw projector into our living room?
You have a wierd way of thinking about ambient light. I can’t even image how can you get imersed let’s say playing an night scene with lights on and you can see everything around you. I can tell you Atleast my. Setup in 3d video quality is much better than any commersial theater in my country. And Yeah it can only be done with projectors. Im still amazed everytime i start gaming how awsome thr 3d is. Though my current projectors have lots of problems and Are old. I got a new oled 4k tv, though its 2D only, it Took me a week to get used to it. Shure the blacks Are great and the image is sharp, but thats it. Its small and the image does not wow me At all after two weeks.
Offcourse i don’t wanna hall out my old tv but if this Was my choise for theater i think id pack up my Things and just game on tv.
No matter if its 70” its still small, and with those prices id ratter buy Couple good projectors.
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[quote="J-Enermax"]^Still haven' talked about the inherent washed out color problem with Projector. So is this still a thing or have this been fixed?
[/quote]
I'd have to agree there is a washed out image when people use projectors with ambient light.
But it isn't "problem that needs to be fixed", it's people using the wrong technology for the wrong purpose.
If you want to use front-projection (project an image on a white screen), you will have to keep ambient light off the screen (turn off the lights, darken the walls, and/or use directional screens to reduce light bounces).
You could also do rear-projection which works very differently, but the space management is also completely different.
You could get the opposite ridiculous argument by taking the key strength of projectors (image size) and apply it to TVs.
My projection screen is 240cm wide (~110 inch diagonal), TVs don't exist at that size.
It would be ridiculous to call this the inherent problem of size with TVs.
[quote="RAGEdemon"][quote="J-Enermax"]I lol'ed at whenever ppl bring up the "dark room immersion".[/quote]
Why? Cinemas darken the room for immersion. VR darkens the room for immersion. Try watching a horror movie with the lights on and tell me there is no difference between the lights on and off.
A dark room removes peripheral distractions. It is a long standing and proven technique. Why are you laughing?[/quote]
He's laughing because people who say "turn off the lights" are comparing apples with oranges.
It's not about the optimum conditions (projector in a dark room vs TV in a dark room). But it's about every other possible viewing condition.
He clearly wants to keep the light on, so it's not use telling him to turns the lights off.
TVs will keep working and provide an excellent picture and immersion under any lighting conditions except outside direct sunlight, whereas a projector's picture on a white screen will completely break apart at the slightest uncontrolled light source.
It's not a problem with projectors, it's a problem of using the wrong technology for the situation.
If you want to use your display with the lights on, then a projector is not for you.
A 4K OLED passive 3DTV will be the best currently available for your usage.
J-Enermax said:^Still haven' talked about the inherent washed out color problem with Projector. So is this still a thing or have this been fixed?
I'd have to agree there is a washed out image when people use projectors with ambient light.
But it isn't "problem that needs to be fixed", it's people using the wrong technology for the wrong purpose.
If you want to use front-projection (project an image on a white screen), you will have to keep ambient light off the screen (turn off the lights, darken the walls, and/or use directional screens to reduce light bounces).
You could also do rear-projection which works very differently, but the space management is also completely different.
You could get the opposite ridiculous argument by taking the key strength of projectors (image size) and apply it to TVs.
My projection screen is 240cm wide (~110 inch diagonal), TVs don't exist at that size.
It would be ridiculous to call this the inherent problem of size with TVs.
RAGEdemon said:
J-Enermax said:I lol'ed at whenever ppl bring up the "dark room immersion".
Why? Cinemas darken the room for immersion. VR darkens the room for immersion. Try watching a horror movie with the lights on and tell me there is no difference between the lights on and off.
A dark room removes peripheral distractions. It is a long standing and proven technique. Why are you laughing?
He's laughing because people who say "turn off the lights" are comparing apples with oranges.
It's not about the optimum conditions (projector in a dark room vs TV in a dark room). But it's about every other possible viewing condition.
He clearly wants to keep the light on, so it's not use telling him to turns the lights off.
TVs will keep working and provide an excellent picture and immersion under any lighting conditions except outside direct sunlight, whereas a projector's picture on a white screen will completely break apart at the slightest uncontrolled light source.
It's not a problem with projectors, it's a problem of using the wrong technology for the situation.
If you want to use your display with the lights on, then a projector is not for you.
A 4K OLED passive 3DTV will be the best currently available for your usage.
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In case it helps with future info subjects:
I now have experience with 4k passive 3d.
Turning on stereoscopic 3d while on my LG 55UF850V tv activates the tv's built in 3d modus.
Not able of adjusting any 3d via nVidia settings, but in the tv software with the remote.
It may not be as rank as anaglyph, but putting settings to max depth certainly changes the view.
better than 3D Surround?
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Hehe, yes! Also way less taxing on the GPU so you can DSR easily, less of a compatability headache, and you can enjoy much more content and share it all with family+friends :)
Surround is superb, but not as good as a good projector setup, in my (and many other people's) humble opinion.
I would be very careful to choose a 120Hz projector though, to ensure I get 120FPS gaming (and desktop) when not in 3D. Most 3D projectors are not 120Hz/120fps compatible which is a big no-no for me personally.
There is a recent thread showing a working 4K projector at 1080p 120Hz 3D Vision with inf hack.
https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/1052371/3d-vision/1920-x-1080-120hz-in-3d-yes-/
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hmm.. so basically it's like playing on my 2016 3D LG OLED 65", but a little bit bigger with washed out color and room have to be completely dark?
Not dissing the projector crowd, just wondering if the tech is good enough to invest?
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Do you go to the movies? Why if you can watch them on your 65" OLED?
Why not ask your friends if they would rather watch a movie on your 65" OLED for free or pay $10 to go to the projector movies? I think majority of people would prefer the movie experience.
I and others are happy and at times actually prefer a dark room as it is more immersive - what 3DV is all about. Also, screen size depends on how much room you have - if you can only fit a "little bit bigger" than 65" screen, then hardly worth it. I'm personally running ~200", but there's no limit, within reason of course.
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I lol'ed at whenever ppl bring up the "dark room immersion". Remind me of my high school day when there was always this one guy bitching about turning off the light when we watched some documentary for class. I venture a guess that it has nothing to do with immersion and more to do with the shittiness of the inherent washed out color/blackness when we use projector. And it's easier for him to nap in class without getting caught (which he did all the time LOL)
Btw, isn't watching movie in the dark bad for your eyes? ;)
I am not sure if a commercial item like a movie theater projector could be comparable to a consumer item like an OLED big screen TV since we talk about the huge difference in size/cost/tech. Like asking me if I like the F1 versus my everyday sedan
If we are to compare apple to apple, maybe we could talk about the current offering of consumer grade projector vs consumer grade TV set? Back to the original inquiry, have the 2018 tech advanced far enough to justify bringing a short throw projector into our living room?
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Projectors have never had this problem. Can you explain what you mean?
Projectors contrast depends heavily on room darkness. A bright room will have the blacks/darkest colours as bright as the light, hence the washed out colours... this is simply how projectors work, and why it is crucial to have a dark room.
Why? Cinemas darken the room for immersion. VR darkens the room for immersion. Try watching a horror movie with the lights on and tell me there is no difference between the lights on and off.
A dark room removes peripheral distractions. It is a long standing and proven technique. Why are you laughing?
Umm, no? Countless studies have proven viewing or reading in the dark has no impact on our eye sight or its development. I think you are confused about a few things buddy ;-)
A good home projector is as good if not better than a cinema experience in many ways, except maybe sheer size.
There are literally multiple threads regarding new projector tech over the first few pages of this forum, and have been for weeks. I literally linked one above. I have noticed in other threads that you miss a lot of information from people's replies, and end up asking the same questions over and over when they have been answered in detail in that thread or other threads on the main page, some even that you started... Why not go read through them and enlighten yourself, and then make up your own mind my good man? ;-)
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You have a wierd way of thinking about ambient light. I can’t even image how can you get imersed let’s say playing an night scene with lights on and you can see everything around you. I can tell you Atleast my. Setup in 3d video quality is much better than any commersial theater in my country. And Yeah it can only be done with projectors. Im still amazed everytime i start gaming how awsome thr 3d is. Though my current projectors have lots of problems and Are old. I got a new oled 4k tv, though its 2D only, it Took me a week to get used to it. Shure the blacks Are great and the image is sharp, but thats it. Its small and the image does not wow me At all after two weeks.
Offcourse i don’t wanna hall out my old tv but if this Was my choise for theater i think id pack up my Things and just game on tv.
No matter if its 70” its still small, and with those prices id ratter buy Couple good projectors.
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I'd have to agree there is a washed out image when people use projectors with ambient light.
But it isn't "problem that needs to be fixed", it's people using the wrong technology for the wrong purpose.
If you want to use front-projection (project an image on a white screen), you will have to keep ambient light off the screen (turn off the lights, darken the walls, and/or use directional screens to reduce light bounces).
You could also do rear-projection which works very differently, but the space management is also completely different.
You could get the opposite ridiculous argument by taking the key strength of projectors (image size) and apply it to TVs.
My projection screen is 240cm wide (~110 inch diagonal), TVs don't exist at that size.
It would be ridiculous to call this the inherent problem of size with TVs.
He's laughing because people who say "turn off the lights" are comparing apples with oranges.
It's not about the optimum conditions (projector in a dark room vs TV in a dark room). But it's about every other possible viewing condition.
He clearly wants to keep the light on, so it's not use telling him to turns the lights off.
TVs will keep working and provide an excellent picture and immersion under any lighting conditions except outside direct sunlight, whereas a projector's picture on a white screen will completely break apart at the slightest uncontrolled light source.
It's not a problem with projectors, it's a problem of using the wrong technology for the situation.
If you want to use your display with the lights on, then a projector is not for you.
A 4K OLED passive 3DTV will be the best currently available for your usage.
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