Need help with getting 3D to work on LED
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Just tried my mini-to-full sized HDMI adaptor with a HDMI1.3 cable, worked perfectly. The adaptor isn't the problem. If your cable is pre-HDMI1.3 that could do it, all the other HW pieces are HDMI1.4 which is all you need.
Just tried my mini-to-full sized HDMI adaptor with a HDMI1.3 cable, worked perfectly. The adaptor isn't the problem. If your cable is pre-HDMI1.3 that could do it, all the other HW pieces are HDMI1.4 which is all you need.

#16
Posted 03/12/2011 12:53 AM   
[quote name='MystereGuy' date='11 March 2011 - 05:52 PM' timestamp='1299891130' post='1206219']
I hooked the HDMI into the first input on my 3D LCD. I named it DVI PC and now I can get all the different 3D options.[/quote]
Then I believe you are on the right input.
[quote] I tried everything though both using the Nvidia Vision and CyberLink TrueTheater 3D that's in the Power DVD menu and still the movie menu tells me the same thing, that I need the 3D TV and 3D player.[/quote]

And to be clear, when you get this message the player does not progress, it just sits there with the error message?
[quote]I would always get that message when I'd use my stand alone Blu-Ray 3D player with a regular HDMI cable, so that's why I'm thinking the adapter is not 1.4.[/quote]
Your theory matches your observations, but I'm using the same adaptor with a HDMI1.3 cable and it works fine. How much confidence do you have in your cable? Does it work with your stand alone player? What happens if you uncheck the 'stereo 3D enable' box in CP and try to run in 2D mode with the player? Is your resolution in CP set to 1920x1080?
I tested Resident Evil Afterlife 3D and it goes to the "play movie" screen where all the choices are with no intervention. Do you get that far?
[quote name='MystereGuy' date='11 March 2011 - 05:52 PM' timestamp='1299891130' post='1206219']

I hooked the HDMI into the first input on my 3D LCD. I named it DVI PC and now I can get all the different 3D options.

Then I believe you are on the right input.

I tried everything though both using the Nvidia Vision and CyberLink TrueTheater 3D that's in the Power DVD menu and still the movie menu tells me the same thing, that I need the 3D TV and 3D player.




And to be clear, when you get this message the player does not progress, it just sits there with the error message?

I would always get that message when I'd use my stand alone Blu-Ray 3D player with a regular HDMI cable, so that's why I'm thinking the adapter is not 1.4.


Your theory matches your observations, but I'm using the same adaptor with a HDMI1.3 cable and it works fine. How much confidence do you have in your cable? Does it work with your stand alone player? What happens if you uncheck the 'stereo 3D enable' box in CP and try to run in 2D mode with the player? Is your resolution in CP set to 1920x1080?

I tested Resident Evil Afterlife 3D and it goes to the "play movie" screen where all the choices are with no intervention. Do you get that far?

#17
Posted 03/12/2011 01:05 AM   
[quote name='roller11' date='11 March 2011 - 07:05 PM' timestamp='1299891915' post='1206226']
Then I believe you are on the right input.


And to be clear, when you get this message the player does not progress, it just sits there with the error message?

Your theory matches your observations, but I'm using the same adaptor with a HDMI1.3 cable and it works fine. How much confidence do you have in your cable? Does it work with your stand alone player? What happens if you uncheck the 'stereo 3D enable' box in CP and try to run in 2D mode with the player? Is your resolution in CP set to 1920x1080?
I tested Resident Evil Afterlife 3D and it goes to the "play movie" screen where all the choices are with no intervention. Do you get that far?
[/quote]

I get to the main menu of Resident Evil 3D and when I click to play movie in 3D, that's when a message appears on the menu saying I need such and such to play in 3D. I'll try what you said about the cable I have. I have other 3D cables, but the one I got for the pc was some cheap one the sales person put in my cart. When I get back home I'll try another cable.
[quote name='roller11' date='11 March 2011 - 07:05 PM' timestamp='1299891915' post='1206226']

Then I believe you are on the right input.





And to be clear, when you get this message the player does not progress, it just sits there with the error message?



Your theory matches your observations, but I'm using the same adaptor with a HDMI1.3 cable and it works fine. How much confidence do you have in your cable? Does it work with your stand alone player? What happens if you uncheck the 'stereo 3D enable' box in CP and try to run in 2D mode with the player? Is your resolution in CP set to 1920x1080?

I tested Resident Evil Afterlife 3D and it goes to the "play movie" screen where all the choices are with no intervention. Do you get that far?





I get to the main menu of Resident Evil 3D and when I click to play movie in 3D, that's when a message appears on the menu saying I need such and such to play in 3D. I'll try what you said about the cable I have. I have other 3D cables, but the one I got for the pc was some cheap one the sales person put in my cart. When I get back home I'll try another cable.

#18
Posted 03/12/2011 01:20 AM   
[quote name='MystereGuy' date='11 March 2011 - 06:20 PM' timestamp='1299892840' post='1206233']
I get to the main menu of Resident Evil 3D and when I click to play movie in 3D, that's when a message appears on the menu saying I need such and such to play in 3D. I'll try what you said about the cable I have. I have other 3D cables, but the one I got for the pc was some cheap one the sales person put in my cart. When I get back home I'll try another cable.
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Yeah, starting to sound like it's your cable, HDMI1.3 and 1.4 should be enough. Report back when you have more info, good luck!
[quote name='MystereGuy' date='11 March 2011 - 06:20 PM' timestamp='1299892840' post='1206233']

I get to the main menu of Resident Evil 3D and when I click to play movie in 3D, that's when a message appears on the menu saying I need such and such to play in 3D. I'll try what you said about the cable I have. I have other 3D cables, but the one I got for the pc was some cheap one the sales person put in my cart. When I get back home I'll try another cable.



Yeah, starting to sound like it's your cable, HDMI1.3 and 1.4 should be enough. Report back when you have more info, good luck!

#19
Posted 03/12/2011 01:44 AM   
[quote name='roller11' date='11 March 2011 - 07:44 PM' timestamp='1299894267' post='1206246']
Yeah, starting to sound like it's your cable, HDMI1.3 and 1.4 should be enough. Report back when you have more info, good luck!
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Tried 3 different cables and still nothing. Driving me crazy lol. If you have some time, could you give me a step by step on what you do to watch a 3D movie? Like what settings you go to in Nvidia cp and check off, what you do in Power DVD, etc. If it matters, I have Power DVD 10. I can't think of any other way now. I'm out of ideas.
[quote name='roller11' date='11 March 2011 - 07:44 PM' timestamp='1299894267' post='1206246']

Yeah, starting to sound like it's your cable, HDMI1.3 and 1.4 should be enough. Report back when you have more info, good luck!







Tried 3 different cables and still nothing. Driving me crazy lol. If you have some time, could you give me a step by step on what you do to watch a 3D movie? Like what settings you go to in Nvidia cp and check off, what you do in Power DVD, etc. If it matters, I have Power DVD 10. I can't think of any other way now. I'm out of ideas.

#20
Posted 03/12/2011 05:13 PM   
I'm glad to help you any way I can. Since we have similar set ups, I should be able to mirror your efforts, a necessary debug technique. I'm going to prepare a step by step off line, meanwhile please tell me your PDVD decription/version and patch version. Be very specific, take nothing for granted. For example, I'm using cyberlink PDVD ultra 10 3D with patch 2429 dated 2/12/2011. I'll return as soon as I can.
I'm glad to help you any way I can. Since we have similar set ups, I should be able to mirror your efforts, a necessary debug technique. I'm going to prepare a step by step off line, meanwhile please tell me your PDVD decription/version and patch version. Be very specific, take nothing for granted. For example, I'm using cyberlink PDVD ultra 10 3D with patch 2429 dated 2/12/2011. I'll return as soon as I can.

#21
Posted 03/12/2011 05:39 PM   
[quote name='roller11' date='12 March 2011 - 11:39 AM' timestamp='1299951560' post='1206532']
I'm glad to help you any way I can. Since we have similar set ups, I should be able to mirror your efforts, a necessary debug technique. I'm going to prepare a step by step off line, meanwhile please tell me your PDVD decription/version and patch version. Be very specific, take nothing for granted. For example, I'm using cyberlink PDVD ultra 10 3D with patch 2429 dated 2/12/2011. I'll return as soon as I can.
[/quote]


Don't bother with the step by step. I want to kill my friend about now lol. He told me when he installed Power DVD that it was all updated. Yeah, well...no lol. Once you mentioned the patch, I tried looking it up and sure enough it was not downloaded. Everything works perfectly now. I don't know why it still said 3D in the version before the patch unless that was to fake the 3D for DVDs. Thank you for all the help though. One quick question though, and this is an easy one lol, can I choose different 3D options such as checkerboard to watch the 3D Blu-Rays or does it have to be the side by side? Reason I ask is because I noticed checkerboard has less ghosting than side by side, even when I use the slider on my tv remote.
[quote name='roller11' date='12 March 2011 - 11:39 AM' timestamp='1299951560' post='1206532']

I'm glad to help you any way I can. Since we have similar set ups, I should be able to mirror your efforts, a necessary debug technique. I'm going to prepare a step by step off line, meanwhile please tell me your PDVD decription/version and patch version. Be very specific, take nothing for granted. For example, I'm using cyberlink PDVD ultra 10 3D with patch 2429 dated 2/12/2011. I'll return as soon as I can.







Don't bother with the step by step. I want to kill my friend about now lol. He told me when he installed Power DVD that it was all updated. Yeah, well...no lol. Once you mentioned the patch, I tried looking it up and sure enough it was not downloaded. Everything works perfectly now. I don't know why it still said 3D in the version before the patch unless that was to fake the 3D for DVDs. Thank you for all the help though. One quick question though, and this is an easy one lol, can I choose different 3D options such as checkerboard to watch the 3D Blu-Rays or does it have to be the side by side? Reason I ask is because I noticed checkerboard has less ghosting than side by side, even when I use the slider on my tv remote.

#22
Posted 03/12/2011 06:30 PM   
[quote name='MystereGuy' date='12 March 2011 - 11:30 AM' timestamp='1299954611' post='1206545']
Don't bother with the step by step. I want to kill my friend about now lol. He told me when he installed Power DVD that it was all updated. Yeah, well...no lol. Once you mentioned the patch, I tried looking it up and sure enough it was not downloaded. Everything works perfectly now. I don't know why it still said 3D in the version before the patch unless that was to fake the 3D for DVDs. Thank you for all the help though. One quick question though, and this is an easy one lol, can I choose different 3D options such as checkerboard to watch the 3D Blu-Rays or does it have to be the side by side? Reason I ask is because I noticed checkerboard has less ghosting than side by side, even when I use the slider on my tv remote.
[/quote]

LOL!!
Okay, glad you got it working.:)
I too notice less ghosting in CB, especially in games but BR3D also. I don't thing you can choose CB in the PDVD display config menu unless you are running under 3D Vision. Do you have a nvidia 3D Vision emitter?
If you aren't doing 3D Vision, you should automatically get 1920x1080/24 Frame Packing when you launch a BR3D disc. My PDVD display config menu shows 'HDMI1.4 TV' and I can't select any options. To see what refresh Hz you are getting, push the 'source' button on your samsung remote then 'select'. The overlay will appear in the upper left and it will say either 1920x1080 @24, or 1920x1080 @60. 24= frame packing, 60= CB.
How are you getting side-by-side?
[quote name='MystereGuy' date='12 March 2011 - 11:30 AM' timestamp='1299954611' post='1206545']

Don't bother with the step by step. I want to kill my friend about now lol. He told me when he installed Power DVD that it was all updated. Yeah, well...no lol. Once you mentioned the patch, I tried looking it up and sure enough it was not downloaded. Everything works perfectly now. I don't know why it still said 3D in the version before the patch unless that was to fake the 3D for DVDs. Thank you for all the help though. One quick question though, and this is an easy one lol, can I choose different 3D options such as checkerboard to watch the 3D Blu-Rays or does it have to be the side by side? Reason I ask is because I noticed checkerboard has less ghosting than side by side, even when I use the slider on my tv remote.





LOL!!

Okay, glad you got it working.:)

I too notice less ghosting in CB, especially in games but BR3D also. I don't thing you can choose CB in the PDVD display config menu unless you are running under 3D Vision. Do you have a nvidia 3D Vision emitter?

If you aren't doing 3D Vision, you should automatically get 1920x1080/24 Frame Packing when you launch a BR3D disc. My PDVD display config menu shows 'HDMI1.4 TV' and I can't select any options. To see what refresh Hz you are getting, push the 'source' button on your samsung remote then 'select'. The overlay will appear in the upper left and it will say either 1920x1080 @24, or 1920x1080 @60. 24= frame packing, 60= CB.

How are you getting side-by-side?

#23
Posted 03/12/2011 07:13 PM   
[quote name='roller11' date='12 March 2011 - 01:13 PM' timestamp='1299957228' post='1206558']
LOL!!
Okay, glad you got it working.:)
I too notice less ghosting in CB, especially in games but BR3D also. I don't thing you can choose CB in the PDVD display config menu unless you are running under 3D Vision. Do you have a nvidia 3D Vision emitter?
If you aren't doing 3D Vision, you should automatically get 1920x1080/24 Frame Packing when you launch a BR3D disc. My PDVD display config menu shows 'HDMI1.4 TV' and I can't select any options. To see what refresh Hz you are getting, push the 'source' button on your samsung remote then 'select'. The overlay will appear in the upper left and it will say either 1920x1080 @24, or 1920x1080 @60. 24= frame packing, 60= CB.
How are you getting side-by-side?
[/quote]


I don't have the emitter or glasses. I use the Samsung glasses. I was just asking about the different 3D options because since I named the HDMI port DVI, it lets me choose, but when I go to watch a movie, I think it goes back to the normal stereoscopic 3D. Another problem Im having is audio now. Ever since I named it DVI, I get no sound through tv. If I plug into any other hdmi port, it works.
[quote name='roller11' date='12 March 2011 - 01:13 PM' timestamp='1299957228' post='1206558']

LOL!!

Okay, glad you got it working.:)

I too notice less ghosting in CB, especially in games but BR3D also. I don't thing you can choose CB in the PDVD display config menu unless you are running under 3D Vision. Do you have a nvidia 3D Vision emitter?

If you aren't doing 3D Vision, you should automatically get 1920x1080/24 Frame Packing when you launch a BR3D disc. My PDVD display config menu shows 'HDMI1.4 TV' and I can't select any options. To see what refresh Hz you are getting, push the 'source' button on your samsung remote then 'select'. The overlay will appear in the upper left and it will say either 1920x1080 @24, or 1920x1080 @60. 24= frame packing, 60= CB.

How are you getting side-by-side?







I don't have the emitter or glasses. I use the Samsung glasses. I was just asking about the different 3D options because since I named the HDMI port DVI, it lets me choose, but when I go to watch a movie, I think it goes back to the normal stereoscopic 3D. Another problem Im having is audio now. Ever since I named it DVI, I get no sound through tv. If I plug into any other hdmi port, it works.

#24
Posted 03/12/2011 08:49 PM   
[quote name='MystereGuy' date='12 March 2011 - 01:49 PM' timestamp='1299962955' post='1206598']
I don't have the emitter or glasses. I use the Samsung glasses. I was just asking about the different 3D options because since I named the HDMI port DVI, it lets me choose, but when I go to watch a movie, I think it goes back to the normal stereoscopic 3D.[/quote]
Right, without 3D Vision or 3DTV Play, you get only the mandatory frame packing ("normal") mode. Only 3D Vision can output checkerboard.
[quote]Another problem Im having is audio now. Ever since I named it DVI, I get no sound through tv. If I plug into any other hdmi port, it works.
[/quote]
Yes, I just verified that, I was previously unaware because I use computer speakers. That's a gigantic problem if you use the TV speakers for doing anything PC related because all Samsung HDMI inputs get terrible image quality when used as a computer monitor. That's why Samsung lets you use HDMI1 as a computer input set to 'DVI PC'.
So if you must use the TV speakers, you are subjected to bad image quality.
[quote name='MystereGuy' date='12 March 2011 - 01:49 PM' timestamp='1299962955' post='1206598']

I don't have the emitter or glasses. I use the Samsung glasses. I was just asking about the different 3D options because since I named the HDMI port DVI, it lets me choose, but when I go to watch a movie, I think it goes back to the normal stereoscopic 3D.

Right, without 3D Vision or 3DTV Play, you get only the mandatory frame packing ("normal") mode. Only 3D Vision can output checkerboard.

Another problem Im having is audio now. Ever since I named it DVI, I get no sound through tv. If I plug into any other hdmi port, it works.



Yes, I just verified that, I was previously unaware because I use computer speakers. That's a gigantic problem if you use the TV speakers for doing anything PC related because all Samsung HDMI inputs get terrible image quality when used as a computer monitor. That's why Samsung lets you use HDMI1 as a computer input set to 'DVI PC'.

So if you must use the TV speakers, you are subjected to bad image quality.

#25
Posted 03/13/2011 01:14 AM   
[quote name='roller11' date='12 March 2011 - 07:14 PM' timestamp='1299978883' post='1206671']
Right, without 3D Vision or 3DTV Play, you get only the mandatory frame packing ("normal") mode. Only 3D Vision can output checkerboard.

Yes, I just verified that, I was previously unaware because I use computer speakers. That's a gigantic problem if you use the TV speakers for doing anything PC related because all Samsung HDMI inputs get terrible image quality when used as a computer monitor. That's why Samsung lets you use HDMI1 as a computer input set to 'DVI PC'.
So if you must use the TV speakers, you are subjected to bad image quality.
[/quote]

I didn't know that about the sound. Thanks for the info. I guess I can get an optical cable to hook the sound up to my surround sound, that way I can use the HDMI 1 port. I just had my PC built, so I'm new to all of this. Thanks again for all your help. If I need some help down the road, mind if I just PM you?
[quote name='roller11' date='12 March 2011 - 07:14 PM' timestamp='1299978883' post='1206671']

Right, without 3D Vision or 3DTV Play, you get only the mandatory frame packing ("normal") mode. Only 3D Vision can output checkerboard.



Yes, I just verified that, I was previously unaware because I use computer speakers. That's a gigantic problem if you use the TV speakers for doing anything PC related because all Samsung HDMI inputs get terrible image quality when used as a computer monitor. That's why Samsung lets you use HDMI1 as a computer input set to 'DVI PC'.

So if you must use the TV speakers, you are subjected to bad image quality.





I didn't know that about the sound. Thanks for the info. I guess I can get an optical cable to hook the sound up to my surround sound, that way I can use the HDMI 1 port. I just had my PC built, so I'm new to all of this. Thanks again for all your help. If I need some help down the road, mind if I just PM you?

#26
Posted 03/13/2011 05:13 PM   
Yes, PM me, that would be better.
Yes, PM me, that would be better.

#27
Posted 03/13/2011 07:06 PM   
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