Advice on pc for 3D vision
I would like to buy a new pc that is mainly for 3D games. I have an acer H5360 and samsung monitor, and have a budget of £1000. I can either buy an i5 750 cpu with 4gig ram and a gtx 480, or I can buy an i7 920 cpu with 6 gig ram and a gtx 460 gpu. I can possibly upgrade to 2 gtx 460 in the future, but I wouldn't consider getting anther 480. Please could you give me some advice in what pc would give me the best 3d gameplay.

Thanks,

Alex
I would like to buy a new pc that is mainly for 3D games. I have an acer H5360 and samsung monitor, and have a budget of £1000. I can either buy an i5 750 cpu with 4gig ram and a gtx 480, or I can buy an i7 920 cpu with 6 gig ram and a gtx 460 gpu. I can possibly upgrade to 2 gtx 460 in the future, but I wouldn't consider getting anther 480. Please could you give me some advice in what pc would give me the best 3d gameplay.



Thanks,



Alex

#1
Posted 07/23/2010 09:56 AM   
U NEED MY advice r u?
i know u need my advice.

give me right solution first .....................................




all my games freeze when i turn on the 3d vision from the control panel .accept the sound still work. (RE5-metro2033-farcry2-BFBC2-cod4.........)not just the game freeze. my whole computer freeze and i don’t have any other choice accept turning off the power supply.
my games freeze while playing not in the menu.
turn off 3d vision= all games run great without any crash(RE5 93 to 120 fps)
turn on 3d vision=all games freezing in the first 3 0r 5 -10 min or 2h or.....)my whole computer freeze (i need help).
am using now the driver 258.96 for both display and 3d vision.
am sure its not the driver problem.
my games run ok with 3d. no ghosting .and nice fps.but after 10 or 58 min or.......every things stop working.

in crysis ..crysis warhead and some games. they start freezing when i turn on the AA 8x or 4x or 2.with or without 3d vision its the same problem.(freeze).
but i am already turning off the AA when i am using the 3d vision.
AA on and 3d vision off or on = crash my games (freeze)
3d vision on with AA or without it = same story same nightmare




what is going on.?
maybe something cause all these problem.?



using:
win7 ultimate.
nvidia asus geforce295gtx.
core 2 quad q8300 2.5ghz.
power supply 850 w(maybe corsair)
Creative Labs SB0886 PCI Express Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Professional Series Sound Card.
Samsung lcd 2233rz 22"120hz 3d.
4 ram.

i need help please to enjoy with nvidia world.

thanks very much.
U NEED MY advice r u?

i know u need my advice.



give me right solution first .....................................









all my games freeze when i turn on the 3d vision from the control panel .accept the sound still work. (RE5-metro2033-farcry2-BFBC2-cod4.........)not just the game freeze. my whole computer freeze and i don’t have any other choice accept turning off the power supply.

my games freeze while playing not in the menu.

turn off 3d vision= all games run great without any crash(RE5 93 to 120 fps)

turn on 3d vision=all games freezing in the first 3 0r 5 -10 min or 2h or.....)my whole computer freeze (i need help).

am using now the driver 258.96 for both display and 3d vision.

am sure its not the driver problem.

my games run ok with 3d. no ghosting .and nice fps.but after 10 or 58 min or.......every things stop working.



in crysis ..crysis warhead and some games. they start freezing when i turn on the AA 8x or 4x or 2.with or without 3d vision its the same problem.(freeze).

but i am already turning off the AA when i am using the 3d vision.

AA on and 3d vision off or on = crash my games (freeze)

3d vision on with AA or without it = same story same nightmare









what is going on.?

maybe something cause all these problem.?







using:

win7 ultimate.

nvidia asus geforce295gtx.

core 2 quad q8300 2.5ghz.

power supply 850 w(maybe corsair)

Creative Labs SB0886 PCI Express Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Professional Series Sound Card.

Samsung lcd 2233rz 22"120hz 3d.

4 ram.



i need help please to enjoy with nvidia world.



thanks very much.

#2
Posted 07/23/2010 10:13 AM   
[quote name='COMPONENTY84' post='1092247' date='Jul 23 2010, 11:13 AM']U NEED MY advice r u?
i know u need my advice.

give me right solution first .....................................




all my games freeze when i turn on the 3d vision from the control panel .accept the sound still work. (RE5-metro2033-farcry2-BFBC2-cod4.........)not just the game freeze. my whole computer freeze and i don’t have any other choice accept turning off the power supply.
my games freeze while playing not in the menu.
turn off 3d vision= all games run great without any crash(RE5 93 to 120 fps)
turn on 3d vision=all games freezing in the first 3 0r 5 -10 min or 2h or.....)my whole computer freeze (i need help).
am using now the driver 258.96 for both display and 3d vision.
am sure its not the driver problem.
my games run ok with 3d. no ghosting .and nice fps.but after 10 or 58 min or.......every things stop working.

in crysis ..crysis warhead and some games. they start freezing when i turn on the AA 8x or 4x or 2.with or without 3d vision its the same problem.(freeze).
but i am already turning off the AA when i am using the 3d vision.
AA on and 3d vision off or on = crash my games (freeze)
3d vision on with AA or without it = same story same nightmare


what is going on.?
maybe something cause all these problem.?[/quote]

That's very helpful to Alex1 isn't it? Start your own thread with your problem and don't hijack his!
Alex1, is there no way you can stretch to the i7 920 and the GTX480? the 920 is the best CPU I've ever had and would highly recommend the GTX480 in combination with it.
[quote name='COMPONENTY84' post='1092247' date='Jul 23 2010, 11:13 AM']U NEED MY advice r u?

i know u need my advice.



give me right solution first .....................................









all my games freeze when i turn on the 3d vision from the control panel .accept the sound still work. (RE5-metro2033-farcry2-BFBC2-cod4.........)not just the game freeze. my whole computer freeze and i don’t have any other choice accept turning off the power supply.

my games freeze while playing not in the menu.

turn off 3d vision= all games run great without any crash(RE5 93 to 120 fps)

turn on 3d vision=all games freezing in the first 3 0r 5 -10 min or 2h or.....)my whole computer freeze (i need help).

am using now the driver 258.96 for both display and 3d vision.

am sure its not the driver problem.

my games run ok with 3d. no ghosting .and nice fps.but after 10 or 58 min or.......every things stop working.



in crysis ..crysis warhead and some games. they start freezing when i turn on the AA 8x or 4x or 2.with or without 3d vision its the same problem.(freeze).

but i am already turning off the AA when i am using the 3d vision.

AA on and 3d vision off or on = crash my games (freeze)

3d vision on with AA or without it = same story same nightmare





what is going on.?

maybe something cause all these problem.?



That's very helpful to Alex1 isn't it? Start your own thread with your problem and don't hijack his!

Alex1, is there no way you can stretch to the i7 920 and the GTX480? the 920 is the best CPU I've ever had and would highly recommend the GTX480 in combination with it.

#3
Posted 07/23/2010 10:33 AM   
Thanks for your reply Richie, however I don't think I can buy both and keep under £1000. I am however upgrading from a 2.3 ghz core 2 duo and a 9600GT and so I just need lag free gameplay in 3d on max settings at a resolution of about 1680x1050.

Componenty84 next time please could you ask in a somewhat polite way. Regarding your problem I think it might be an overheating problem maybe due to overclocking because that is what happened to my 9600 gt when I overclocked it

Thanks again

Alex
Thanks for your reply Richie, however I don't think I can buy both and keep under £1000. I am however upgrading from a 2.3 ghz core 2 duo and a 9600GT and so I just need lag free gameplay in 3d on max settings at a resolution of about 1680x1050.



Componenty84 next time please could you ask in a somewhat polite way. Regarding your problem I think it might be an overheating problem maybe due to overclocking because that is what happened to my 9600 gt when I overclocked it



Thanks again



Alex

#4
Posted 07/23/2010 11:17 AM   
2 [b]alex1[/b]. I think u need first solution: buy an i5 750 cpu with 4gig ram and a gtx 480, because there are very few games are dependent on the heavy processor, and in my system i7920 with 6GB of RAM usually used 25-75% CPU usage and less 3,5 GB of RAM in gaming. But 3D stereo is very heavy to any graphics card.
2 alex1. I think u need first solution: buy an i5 750 cpu with 4gig ram and a gtx 480, because there are very few games are dependent on the heavy processor, and in my system i7920 with 6GB of RAM usually used 25-75% CPU usage and less 3,5 GB of RAM in gaming. But 3D stereo is very heavy to any graphics card.

#5
Posted 07/23/2010 11:19 AM   
The i5 750 with the 480 GTX, no questions. The 750's overclock like champs (I have mine running at 3.6 at LESS than stock voltage) and the 480 is a beast. I just upgraded to two 460GTXs, which is slightly faster than a single 480GTX and it plays everything very smoothly at 1920x1080, full settings. With the other combo, you'll have too much CPU for the graphics card. The i5 750 with the 480 would be perfect. In fact, I would recommend getting dual 460 GTXs instead of a single 480 if you can swing it, unless you are planning on adding another 480 down the road.
The i5 750 with the 480 GTX, no questions. The 750's overclock like champs (I have mine running at 3.6 at LESS than stock voltage) and the 480 is a beast. I just upgraded to two 460GTXs, which is slightly faster than a single 480GTX and it plays everything very smoothly at 1920x1080, full settings. With the other combo, you'll have too much CPU for the graphics card. The i5 750 with the 480 would be perfect. In fact, I would recommend getting dual 460 GTXs instead of a single 480 if you can swing it, unless you are planning on adding another 480 down the road.

i7-6700k @ 4.5GHz, 2x 970 GTX SLI, 16GB DDR4 @ 3000mhz, MSI Gaming M7, Samsung 950 Pro m.2 SSD 512GB, 2x 1TB RAID 1, 850w EVGA, Corsair RGB 90 keyboard

#6
Posted 07/23/2010 01:12 PM   
With Acer H5360 you going to play 720p, hence even 512 mb VRAM is OK. I know , I measured it.

2x GTS250 (9800GTX) is just as fast as GTX460, who switched says its as fast as GTX470 (IDK cuz I won't ) .

I have phenom2 955, 3.2ghz, stock clocks, GPU utilization is up there , 97-98%.

So my system is as balanced as it gets ;)

Otherwise , a lot of overrated stuff is mentioned in this topic ;) .

-do yourself a favor get a better screen pal, or high gain screen paint applied profesionally ( gain : 2+ ), because this dx11 and intel stuff can't be more overrated than it is ;)
With Acer H5360 you going to play 720p, hence even 512 mb VRAM is OK. I know , I measured it.



2x GTS250 (9800GTX) is just as fast as GTX460, who switched says its as fast as GTX470 (IDK cuz I won't ) .



I have phenom2 955, 3.2ghz, stock clocks, GPU utilization is up there , 97-98%.



So my system is as balanced as it gets ;)



Otherwise , a lot of overrated stuff is mentioned in this topic ;) .



-do yourself a favor get a better screen pal, or high gain screen paint applied profesionally ( gain : 2+ ), because this dx11 and intel stuff can't be more overrated than it is ;)

#7
Posted 07/23/2010 03:56 PM   
First off, I think the i7-930 is a better buy than the i7-920. You get an slight clock bump, they're identical in every other respect, and the 930 actually $10 [i]less[/i] than the 920 on NewEgg right now.

Now, when you look at i5-750 vs i7-920/930, you're also looking at the difference between LGA-1156 and LGA-1366 sockets, which in turn is the difference between P55 and X58 chipset motherboards. If you go i5, you're going to spend less not only on the CPU, but also on the motherboard. However, the i7's motherboards give you triple channel memory (slight performance increase, and more slots for RAM upgrades) and more PCI-E lanes (providing SLI with 16X per card). Also keep in mind that it's much easier to upgrade a video card than it is a motherboard; I try to buy motherboards to last, so I won't have to replace them as often.

The bottom line is, I just bought all the parts I needed for a new i7-930 system, with GTX465 (the GTX460 was released after I ordered) and 6GB DDR3 1333. Here are the parts that may be of interest to you:
[url="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130294"]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16813130294[/url]
[url="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115225"]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16819115225[/url]
[url="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145250"]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16820145250[/url]
First off, I think the i7-930 is a better buy than the i7-920. You get an slight clock bump, they're identical in every other respect, and the 930 actually $10 less than the 920 on NewEgg right now.



Now, when you look at i5-750 vs i7-920/930, you're also looking at the difference between LGA-1156 and LGA-1366 sockets, which in turn is the difference between P55 and X58 chipset motherboards. If you go i5, you're going to spend less not only on the CPU, but also on the motherboard. However, the i7's motherboards give you triple channel memory (slight performance increase, and more slots for RAM upgrades) and more PCI-E lanes (providing SLI with 16X per card). Also keep in mind that it's much easier to upgrade a video card than it is a motherboard; I try to buy motherboards to last, so I won't have to replace them as often.



The bottom line is, I just bought all the parts I needed for a new i7-930 system, with GTX465 (the GTX460 was released after I ordered) and 6GB DDR3 1333. Here are the parts that may be of interest to you:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16813130294

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16819115225

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16820145250

#8
Posted 07/24/2010 03:48 AM   
Now correct me if I am wrong but shouldn't he buy the best CPU he can afford and the GTX 460. I mean the weak link will be a video card and hell he could always sell the video card later for money to get the GTX 470 or GTX 480 what ever he chose.
Now correct me if I am wrong but shouldn't he buy the best CPU he can afford and the GTX 460. I mean the weak link will be a video card and hell he could always sell the video card later for money to get the GTX 470 or GTX 480 what ever he chose.

I can't wait until I'm done with college. So I can cure this empty wallet syndrome, that college has caused.



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EVGA GTX570 800/1600/1950

4 Gigs 800MHz Crucial Ram @ 5-5-5-15

2 500gig Western Digital HDD's

750 Coolmax PSU

Prolimatech Megahalems Rev.B CPU Cooler

#9
Posted 07/24/2010 03:54 AM   
[quote name='Tely' post='1092676' date='Jul 23 2010, 08:54 PM']Now correct me if I am wrong but shouldn't he buy the best CPU he can afford and the GTX 460. I mean the weak link will be a video card and hell he could always sell the video card later for money to get the GTX 470 or GTX 480 what ever he chose.[/quote]

It's good to get a good CPU now, but I think it's even more important to get a good motherboard. Intel's highest-end CPUs are horrendously overpriced now, but eventually they will get cheaper as faster chips replace them, and you'd be able to grab them as an upgrade for a more reasonable price. For now, the i7-930 is all you need.

I wouldn't count on making much money back selling a video card after it becomes obsolete; however, a good strategy is to buy enough video horsepower for now (which the GTX460 certainly is), and in the future buy a second card (possibly used) for cheap and go SLI.
[quote name='Tely' post='1092676' date='Jul 23 2010, 08:54 PM']Now correct me if I am wrong but shouldn't he buy the best CPU he can afford and the GTX 460. I mean the weak link will be a video card and hell he could always sell the video card later for money to get the GTX 470 or GTX 480 what ever he chose.



It's good to get a good CPU now, but I think it's even more important to get a good motherboard. Intel's highest-end CPUs are horrendously overpriced now, but eventually they will get cheaper as faster chips replace them, and you'd be able to grab them as an upgrade for a more reasonable price. For now, the i7-930 is all you need.



I wouldn't count on making much money back selling a video card after it becomes obsolete; however, a good strategy is to buy enough video horsepower for now (which the GTX460 certainly is), and in the future buy a second card (possibly used) for cheap and go SLI.

#10
Posted 07/24/2010 05:38 AM   
Thanks everyone for all the advice. I will probably get an asus P6X58D-E mobo, with an i7 920 (together about £310 on scan), and then 6gb of 1600mhz ddr3 RAM. However I am not sure if I should get a gtx 480 now there is a price drop or 2 GTX 460s. I will probably also be buying in a few months. I will probably also sell my sammy monitor because I only use 3d on the h5360, and so I will buy a full hd screen.
Thanks everyone for all the advice. I will probably get an asus P6X58D-E mobo, with an i7 920 (together about £310 on scan), and then 6gb of 1600mhz ddr3 RAM. However I am not sure if I should get a gtx 480 now there is a price drop or 2 GTX 460s. I will probably also be buying in a few months. I will probably also sell my sammy monitor because I only use 3d on the h5360, and so I will buy a full hd screen.

#11
Posted 07/24/2010 05:47 PM   
[quote name='alex1' post='1092918' date='Jul 24 2010, 01:47 PM']Thanks everyone for all the advice. I will probably get an asus P6X58D-E mobo, with an i7 920 (together about £310 on scan), and then 6gb of 1600mhz ddr3 RAM. However I am not sure if I should get a gtx 480 now there is a price drop or 2 GTX 460s. I will probably also be buying in a few months. I will probably also sell my sammy monitor because I only use 3d on the h5360, and so I will buy a full hd screen.[/quote]

460s in SLI are usually at least 15% faster than a single 480 in most scenarios. Get the 1GB versions.
[quote name='alex1' post='1092918' date='Jul 24 2010, 01:47 PM']Thanks everyone for all the advice. I will probably get an asus P6X58D-E mobo, with an i7 920 (together about £310 on scan), and then 6gb of 1600mhz ddr3 RAM. However I am not sure if I should get a gtx 480 now there is a price drop or 2 GTX 460s. I will probably also be buying in a few months. I will probably also sell my sammy monitor because I only use 3d on the h5360, and so I will buy a full hd screen.



460s in SLI are usually at least 15% faster than a single 480 in most scenarios. Get the 1GB versions.

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#12
Posted 07/24/2010 10:40 PM   
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