Which is the best 3D monitor ?
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I'll see if I can make some photos later. If you get a chance, you can do the reverse- I've given you multiple examples of that ghost.jpg from other people including projector. You can also do Bloodies test because there are multiple examples there for comparison.
I'll see if I can make some photos later.

If you get a chance, you can do the reverse- I've given you multiple examples of that ghost.jpg from other people including projector. You can also do Bloodies test because there are multiple examples there for comparison.

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#16
Posted 05/01/2015 03:47 PM   
I don't want stories, I want pictures. Oh my is it this hard to get ? ;) I know all that I use 3D since eDimensional on CRT ! I've opened informative threads about 3D in 2008... [quote="bo3b"]I'll see if I can make some photos later.[/quote]Thanks bo3b to spend time to give it a try. Love your work with Helix Mod / 3Dmigoto by the way. God bless you. .
I don't want stories, I want pictures. Oh my is it this hard to get ? ;)

I know all that I use 3D since eDimensional on CRT ! I've opened informative threads about 3D in 2008...


bo3b said:I'll see if I can make some photos later.
Thanks bo3b to spend time to give it a try.
Love your work with Helix Mod / 3Dmigoto by the way. God bless you.


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I don't know the state of GSync + 3D Vision at the moment, but from what I remember, both could not be enabled together? It is interesting then that BenQ have released 3D Vision monitors which specifically work with GSync... "Nvidia 3D ready (only for G-SYNC mode)" [url]http://gaming.benq.com/gaming-monitor/xl2420g[/url]
I don't know the state of GSync + 3D Vision at the moment, but from what I remember, both could not be enabled together?

It is interesting then that BenQ have released 3D Vision monitors which specifically work with GSync...

"Nvidia 3D ready (only for G-SYNC mode)"

http://gaming.benq.com/gaming-monitor/xl2420g

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#18
Posted 05/02/2015 04:29 PM   
[quote="RAGEdemon"]I don't know the state of GSync + 3D Vision at the moment, but from what I remember, both could not be enabled together? It is interesting then that BenQ have released 3D Vision monitors which specifically work with GSync... "Nvidia 3D ready (only for G-SYNC mode)" [url]http://gaming.benq.com/gaming-monitor/xl2420g[/url][/quote] I looked at the website and could not see that claim about 3d ready only with gsync. As of now 3d vision and gsync will not work at the same time. And I can confirm that on my asus rog swift. To enable 3d vision you have to click a button confirming the disabling of gsync. Some manufacturers are poor at accurate 3d vision information. There are adds still up on amazon and newegg claiming an Acer 4k monitor is 3d vision ready when it is not. There is no 4k 3d monitor. The 3d vision part is left over from other monitors in a similar series. While we are at it, even with my monitors flaws (I only notice poor sli use, but working on some games) in my opinion this monitor is the best 3d vision monitor. (3D vision at 1440p).
RAGEdemon said:I don't know the state of GSync + 3D Vision at the moment, but from what I remember, both could not be enabled together?

It is interesting then that BenQ have released 3D Vision monitors which specifically work with GSync...

"Nvidia 3D ready (only for G-SYNC mode)"

http://gaming.benq.com/gaming-monitor/xl2420g


I looked at the website and could not see that claim about 3d ready only with gsync. As of now 3d vision and gsync will not work at the same time. And I can confirm that on my asus rog swift. To enable 3d vision you have to click a button confirming the disabling of gsync. Some manufacturers are poor at accurate 3d vision information. There are adds still up on amazon and newegg claiming an Acer 4k monitor is 3d vision ready when it is not. There is no 4k 3d monitor. The 3d vision part is left over from other monitors in a similar series.

While we are at it, even with my monitors flaws (I only notice poor sli use, but working on some games) in my opinion this monitor is the best 3d vision monitor. (3D vision at 1440p).

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#19
Posted 05/02/2015 05:29 PM   
If you click on specifications tab... [url]http://gaming.benq.com/gaming-monitor/xl2420g/specification/#skip[/url] ...and look under the 3D section, it says: [i]3D display Nvidia 3D ready (only for G-SYNC mode)[/i] Which seems to imply that 3D Vision will only work with GSync. Whether this is accurate or not, I don't know. I just find it interesting that they are both secifically mentioned together as only working with each other. This could conceivably be a typo, or meaning lost in translation, if they had actually meant: [i]3D display Nvidia 3D ready (only for [u][b]non-[/b][/u]G-SYNC mode)[/i]
If you click on specifications tab...

http://gaming.benq.com/gaming-monitor/xl2420g/specification/#skip

...and look under the 3D section, it says:

3D display Nvidia 3D ready (only for G-SYNC mode)

Which seems to imply that 3D Vision will only work with GSync.

Whether this is accurate or not, I don't know. I just find it interesting that they are both secifically mentioned together as only working with each other.

This could conceivably be a typo, or meaning lost in translation, if they had actually meant:

3D display Nvidia 3D ready (only for non-G-SYNC mode)

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#20
Posted 05/02/2015 05:53 PM   
[quote="RAGEdemon"]If you click on specifications tab... [url]http://gaming.benq.com/gaming-monitor/xl2420g/specification/#skip[/url] ...and look under the 3D section, it says: [i]3D display Nvidia 3D ready (only for G-SYNC mode)[/i] Which seems to imply that 3D Vision will only work with GSync. Whether this is accurate or not, I don't know. I just find it interesting that they are both secifically mentioned together as only working with each other. This could conceivably be a typo, or meaning lost in translation, if they had actually meant: [i]3D display Nvidia 3D ready (only for [u][b]non-[/b][/u]G-SYNC mode)[/i] [/quote] Ok found it.. Yeah it is probably a mistake.
RAGEdemon said:If you click on specifications tab...

http://gaming.benq.com/gaming-monitor/xl2420g/specification/#skip

...and look under the 3D section, it says:

3D display Nvidia 3D ready (only for G-SYNC mode)

Which seems to imply that 3D Vision will only work with GSync.

Whether this is accurate or not, I don't know. I just find it interesting that they are both secifically mentioned together as only working with each other.

This could conceivably be a typo, or meaning lost in translation, if they had actually meant:

3D display Nvidia 3D ready (only for non-G-SYNC mode)


Ok found it.. Yeah it is probably a mistake.

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Asus ROG Swift PG278Q Monitor: 1440p 3D Vision

#21
Posted 05/03/2015 12:25 AM   
Rabbit test anyone?
Rabbit test anyone?
OK, I still don't understand why you think the rabbit test is superior to the other two, the snake one, and the tests that 3DVisionBlog used. The benefit of tests is comparison to other results, and there are a fair number of those examples. It would be better if you did those tests also, and shared your results. Nevertheless, I used a less than stellar setup and took some crappy iPhone pictures, that I hope might suffice. Doing a real test with a real camera and tripod like I did for those other two tests is not on the table right now because I can't find my real camera. In order from above example, only taking photo through left lens of V2 glasses. These are marginal, because the camera was on full auto, so it's going to change ISO all the time. And 1/15 shutter times means these have a lot of handshake blur. Best I can do right now. lb.jpg [img]http://www.bo3b.net/rabbit/lb.jpg[/img] ldb.jpg [img]http://www.bo3b.net/rabbit/ldb.jpg[/img] lg.jpg [img]http://www.bo3b.net/rabbit/lg.jpg[/img] lw.jpg [img]http://www.bo3b.net/rabbit/lw.jpg[/img] rb.jpg [img]http://www.bo3b.net/rabbit/rb.jpg[/img] rdb.jpg [img]http://www.bo3b.net/rabbit/rdb.jpg[/img] rg.jpg [img]http://www.bo3b.net/rabbit/rg.jpg[/img] rw.jpg [img]http://www.bo3b.net/rabbit/rw.jpg[/img]
OK, I still don't understand why you think the rabbit test is superior to the other two, the snake one, and the tests that 3DVisionBlog used. The benefit of tests is comparison to other results, and there are a fair number of those examples. It would be better if you did those tests also, and shared your results.


Nevertheless, I used a less than stellar setup and took some crappy iPhone pictures, that I hope might suffice. Doing a real test with a real camera and tripod like I did for those other two tests is not on the table right now because I can't find my real camera.

In order from above example, only taking photo through left lens of V2 glasses. These are marginal, because the camera was on full auto, so it's going to change ISO all the time. And 1/15 shutter times means these have a lot of handshake blur. Best I can do right now.


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#23
Posted 05/05/2015 08:44 AM   
DLP? You don't have 16:9 option? Any way I can't see any crosstalk. Good setup. FYI, if you want to test R pictures, use the other glass. With Nvidia shouldn't have difference, but with other glasses, like Samsung bluetooth glasses, there is. Now I hope to get monitor test.
DLP? You don't have 16:9 option? Any way I can't see any crosstalk. Good setup.

FYI, if you want to test R pictures, use the other glass. With Nvidia shouldn't have difference, but with other glasses, like Samsung bluetooth glasses, there is.

Now I hope to get monitor test.
[quote="Mournz"]Ok found it.. Yeah it is probably a mistake.[/quote] The XL2420G has two scalers: the usual G-Sync scaler that all G-Sync monitors have (G-Sync, ULMB, etc), and BenQ's own scaler (with Blur Reduction and other OSD settings that you can only use with this scaler). The DP port uses the former, and the other ports (DVI and HDMI) use the other one. It's possible that 3D Vision only can be enabled when you are using the G-Sync scaler, and that's why they said that in a weird way. In my opinion, it's a good thing that it has 2 scalers. With the BenQ one, you can use Blur Reduction at any refresh rate between 50Hz and 144Hz. That means no motion blur for 60fps capped games, for example (if they aren't 3D compatible or you need the performance).
Mournz said:Ok found it.. Yeah it is probably a mistake.

The XL2420G has two scalers: the usual G-Sync scaler that all G-Sync monitors have (G-Sync, ULMB, etc), and BenQ's own scaler (with Blur Reduction and other OSD settings that you can only use with this scaler). The DP port uses the former, and the other ports (DVI and HDMI) use the other one. It's possible that 3D Vision only can be enabled when you are using the G-Sync scaler, and that's why they said that in a weird way.

In my opinion, it's a good thing that it has 2 scalers. With the BenQ one, you can use Blur Reduction at any refresh rate between 50Hz and 144Hz. That means no motion blur for 60fps capped games, for example (if they aren't 3D compatible or you need the performance).

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#25
Posted 05/05/2015 07:16 PM   
does the new RoG Swift perform better in 3D than the asus vg278h in regards to response time and ghosting?
does the new RoG Swift perform better in 3D than the asus vg278h in regards to response time and ghosting?

#26
Posted 05/07/2015 12:58 AM   
[quote="Dugom"]DLP? You don't have 16:9 option? [/quote] Your pictures are not designed to display a full 16:9. They are half the width they need to be.
Dugom said:DLP? You don't have 16:9 option?

Your pictures are not designed to display a full 16:9. They are half the width they need to be.

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#27
Posted 05/07/2015 03:09 AM   
Yes in deed because HDMI 1.4 wont accept FullHD 3D pictures... if set at 60Hz. But with Stereoscopic player or 3Dvision Video player, you can select the ratio. .
Yes in deed because HDMI 1.4 wont accept FullHD 3D pictures... if set at 60Hz.

But with Stereoscopic player or 3Dvision Video player, you can select the ratio.


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[quote="Anisotonic"]does the new RoG Swift perform better in 3D than the asus vg278h in regards to response time and ghosting?[/quote] I would like to know that too. Does someone know? What I heard is, that there is a bug where you suddenly get a lot of ghosting on the swift. Then you unplug the monitor or reboot the system and its ok again. What I wonder is, how is the ghosting during the time it is performing ok (and not having the ghosting bug some people did experience).
Anisotonic said:does the new RoG Swift perform better in 3D than the asus vg278h in regards to response time and ghosting?


I would like to know that too. Does someone know? What I heard is, that there is a bug where you suddenly get a lot of ghosting on the swift. Then you unplug the monitor or reboot the system and its ok again. What I wonder is, how is the ghosting during the time it is performing ok (and not having the ghosting bug some people did experience).

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#29
Posted 05/13/2015 10:17 AM   
[quote="Reggaeroman"][quote="Anisotonic"]does the new RoG Swift perform better in 3D than the asus vg278h in regards to response time and ghosting?[/quote] I would like to know that too. Does someone know? What I heard is, that there is a bug where you suddenly get a lot of ghosting on the swift. Then you unplug the monitor or reboot the system and its ok again. What I wonder is, how is the ghosting during the time it is performing ok (and not having the ghosting bug some people did experience).[/quote] In my own experience, the poor ghosting on the ROG SWIFT is permanent, and about 1000x worse than the quite rare (and not very severe) ghosting I had on the VG278H. I've unplugged the SWIFT overnight and plugged it back into the mains brick the following morning and still the ghosting remained. I'm pretty sure both monitors have very similar response times, but the big difference is the resolution, 1440p 3D looks great.
Reggaeroman said:
Anisotonic said:does the new RoG Swift perform better in 3D than the asus vg278h in regards to response time and ghosting?


I would like to know that too. Does someone know? What I heard is, that there is a bug where you suddenly get a lot of ghosting on the swift. Then you unplug the monitor or reboot the system and its ok again. What I wonder is, how is the ghosting during the time it is performing ok (and not having the ghosting bug some people did experience).


In my own experience, the poor ghosting on the ROG SWIFT is permanent, and about 1000x worse than the quite rare (and not very severe) ghosting I had on the VG278H. I've unplugged the SWIFT overnight and plugged it back into the mains brick the following morning and still the ghosting remained.

I'm pretty sure both monitors have very similar response times, but the big difference is the resolution, 1440p 3D looks great.

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#30
Posted 05/16/2015 12:32 AM   
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