HDMI 1.4a Does 1080p/60, Will 3DTV Play Support It?
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According to the Wiki entry for HDMI this is true. Can anyone comment. Is this is true, will 3DTV Play support it?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI#Version_comparison

Thanks
Ray
According to the Wiki entry for HDMI this is true. Can anyone comment. Is this is true, will 3DTV Play support it?



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI#Version_comparison



Thanks

Ray

#1
Posted 04/06/2011 05:43 PM   
(Sorry for the plethora of posts today!)
(Sorry for the plethora of posts today!)

#2
Posted 04/06/2011 05:44 PM   
Ray,
This is pretty much a daily question on the forum, so you should be able to find plenty of answers. Though HDMI 1.4a is probably able to handle the bandwidth for 1080p60 per eye, current TV manufacturers inaugurating the new HDMI 1.4a standard do not have this capability. You are limited to doing 720p60 on framepacking, or if you have a Samsung you have the option of doing 1080p60 checkerboard mode which gives you half the vertical resolution per eye. Nvidia has stated they will add checkerboard support into 3DTV Play in a future driver release, so that's probably your best bet. There are others here that run a modified monitor .inf file to achieve the same purposes which bypasses the EDID detection, roller11 will be the person to ask about that if you must try it now. If not, you'll have to hang loose and stay with 720p60 until 3DTV Play is updated to support 1080p60 checkerboard mode.

-photios
Ray,

This is pretty much a daily question on the forum, so you should be able to find plenty of answers. Though HDMI 1.4a is probably able to handle the bandwidth for 1080p60 per eye, current TV manufacturers inaugurating the new HDMI 1.4a standard do not have this capability. You are limited to doing 720p60 on framepacking, or if you have a Samsung you have the option of doing 1080p60 checkerboard mode which gives you half the vertical resolution per eye. Nvidia has stated they will add checkerboard support into 3DTV Play in a future driver release, so that's probably your best bet. There are others here that run a modified monitor .inf file to achieve the same purposes which bypasses the EDID detection, roller11 will be the person to ask about that if you must try it now. If not, you'll have to hang loose and stay with 720p60 until 3DTV Play is updated to support 1080p60 checkerboard mode.



-photios

#3
Posted 04/06/2011 05:51 PM   
Hi

When a device supports it, yes we will investigate adding 1080p60. Until then, we dont support it since there are no devices.
Hi



When a device supports it, yes we will investigate adding 1080p60. Until then, we dont support it since there are no devices.

#4
Posted 04/06/2011 06:06 PM   
[quote name='andrewf@nvidia' date='06 April 2011 - 10:06 AM' timestamp='1302113187' post='1220349']
Hi

When a device supports it, yes we will investigate adding 1080p60. Until then, we dont support it since there are no devices.
[/quote]
Awesome, thanks for the replies. Also, Kudos to nVidia for releasing this technology and showing love to PC gamers. :)
[quote name='andrewf@nvidia' date='06 April 2011 - 10:06 AM' timestamp='1302113187' post='1220349']

Hi



When a device supports it, yes we will investigate adding 1080p60. Until then, we dont support it since there are no devices.



Awesome, thanks for the replies. Also, Kudos to nVidia for releasing this technology and showing love to PC gamers. :)

#5
Posted 04/06/2011 07:01 PM   
[quote name='andrewf@nvidia' date='06 April 2011 - 02:06 PM' timestamp='1302113187' post='1220349']
Hi

When a device supports it, yes we will investigate adding 1080p60. Until then, we dont support it since there are no devices.
[/quote]
According to Panasonic all of their 2011 line support 3D 1080p @ 60Hz input. I've even specifically asked related to their VIERA TC-L32DT30 & VIERA TC-L37DT30 models since those seem like the perfect size for desktop PC monitor with 3D and TV support.
I even had the representative verify this that specifically for 3D they are capable of accepting 1080p @ 60Hz input signal, not just the common 24Hz.

Edit: I suppose now it just comes down to nVidia as to which graphics hardware and 3D software packages I will use on the new PC build to go with the new monitor choice.
[quote name='andrewf@nvidia' date='06 April 2011 - 02:06 PM' timestamp='1302113187' post='1220349']

Hi



When a device supports it, yes we will investigate adding 1080p60. Until then, we dont support it since there are no devices.



According to Panasonic all of their 2011 line support 3D 1080p @ 60Hz input. I've even specifically asked related to their VIERA TC-L32DT30 & VIERA TC-L37DT30 models since those seem like the perfect size for desktop PC monitor with 3D and TV support.

I even had the representative verify this that specifically for 3D they are capable of accepting 1080p @ 60Hz input signal, not just the common 24Hz.



Edit: I suppose now it just comes down to nVidia as to which graphics hardware and 3D software packages I will use on the new PC build to go with the new monitor choice.

#6
Posted 04/06/2011 07:55 PM   
[quote name='kel1963' date='06 April 2011 - 11:55 AM' timestamp='1302119747' post='1220422']
According to Panasonic all of their 2011 line support 3D 1080p @ 60Hz input. I've even specifically asked related to their VIERA TC-L32DT30 & VIERA TC-L37DT30 models since those seem like the perfect size for desktop PC monitor with 3D and TV support.
I even had the representative verify this that specifically for 3D they are capable of accepting 1080p @ 60Hz input signal, not just the common 24Hz.

Edit: I suppose now it just comes down to nVidia as to which graphics hardware and 3D software packages I will use on the new PC build to go with the new monitor choice.
[/quote]

That's interesting, did they specify whether it was frame packed, side-by-side or both? According to the HDMI 1.4a specification that I just read it could be either or both (or none, since it's entirely optional).
[quote name='kel1963' date='06 April 2011 - 11:55 AM' timestamp='1302119747' post='1220422']

According to Panasonic all of their 2011 line support 3D 1080p @ 60Hz input. I've even specifically asked related to their VIERA TC-L32DT30 & VIERA TC-L37DT30 models since those seem like the perfect size for desktop PC monitor with 3D and TV support.

I even had the representative verify this that specifically for 3D they are capable of accepting 1080p @ 60Hz input signal, not just the common 24Hz.



Edit: I suppose now it just comes down to nVidia as to which graphics hardware and 3D software packages I will use on the new PC build to go with the new monitor choice.





That's interesting, did they specify whether it was frame packed, side-by-side or both? According to the HDMI 1.4a specification that I just read it could be either or both (or none, since it's entirely optional).

#7
Posted 04/06/2011 08:14 PM   
[quote name='kel1963' date='06 April 2011 - 02:55 PM' timestamp='1302119747' post='1220422']
According to Panasonic all of their 2011 line support 3D 1080p @ 60Hz input. I've even specifically asked related to their VIERA TC-L32DT30 & VIERA TC-L37DT30 models since those seem like the perfect size for desktop PC monitor with 3D and TV support.
I even had the representative verify this that specifically for 3D they are capable of accepting 1080p @ 60Hz input signal, not just the common 24Hz.

Edit: I suppose now it just comes down to nVidia as to which graphics hardware and 3D software packages I will use on the new PC build to go with the new monitor choice.
[/quote]

Hi

They can likely accept a 1080p60 side/side signal which is different than a frame packed 1080p60. If you can find documentation of their support of 1080p60, please send it.
[quote name='kel1963' date='06 April 2011 - 02:55 PM' timestamp='1302119747' post='1220422']

According to Panasonic all of their 2011 line support 3D 1080p @ 60Hz input. I've even specifically asked related to their VIERA TC-L32DT30 & VIERA TC-L37DT30 models since those seem like the perfect size for desktop PC monitor with 3D and TV support.

I even had the representative verify this that specifically for 3D they are capable of accepting 1080p @ 60Hz input signal, not just the common 24Hz.



Edit: I suppose now it just comes down to nVidia as to which graphics hardware and 3D software packages I will use on the new PC build to go with the new monitor choice.





Hi



They can likely accept a 1080p60 side/side signal which is different than a frame packed 1080p60. If you can find documentation of their support of 1080p60, please send it.

#8
Posted 04/06/2011 08:25 PM   
[quote name='kel1963' date='06 April 2011 - 01:55 PM' timestamp='1302119747' post='1220422']
According to Panasonic all of their 2011 line support 3D 1080p @ 60Hz input.
[/quote]
All 3DTVs do 1080P/60, which is 30 frames per second Frame Sequential. one frame = 1 left image plus 1 right in sequence, L-R-L-R and so on.
[quote name='kel1963' date='06 April 2011 - 01:55 PM' timestamp='1302119747' post='1220422']

According to Panasonic all of their 2011 line support 3D 1080p @ 60Hz input.



All 3DTVs do 1080P/60, which is 30 frames per second Frame Sequential. one frame = 1 left image plus 1 right in sequence, L-R-L-R and so on.

#9
Posted 04/06/2011 10:31 PM   
The latest Vizio TV manuals also suggest they accept HDMI 1.4a certified...
The latest Vizio TV manuals also suggest they accept HDMI 1.4a certified...

#10
Posted 04/09/2011 10:32 PM   
[quote name='roller11' date='06 April 2011 - 06:31 PM' timestamp='1302129105' post='1220500']
All 3DTVs do 1080P/60, which is 30 frames per second Frame Sequential. one frame = 1 left image plus 1 right in sequence, L-R-L-R and so on.
[/quote]

Yes but "3D 1080p" means "2 frames of 1080p, one for the left eye and one for the right eye", thus "3D 1080p @ 60hz" means 1080p @ 120hz, more or less but that's the basic idea...
[quote name='roller11' date='06 April 2011 - 06:31 PM' timestamp='1302129105' post='1220500']

All 3DTVs do 1080P/60, which is 30 frames per second Frame Sequential. one frame = 1 left image plus 1 right in sequence, L-R-L-R and so on.





Yes but "3D 1080p" means "2 frames of 1080p, one for the left eye and one for the right eye", thus "3D 1080p @ 60hz" means 1080p @ 120hz, more or less but that's the basic idea...

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#11
Posted 04/10/2011 09:44 AM   
Hi

If anyone can find a TV that supports 1080p60 frame sequential please send it.
Hi



If anyone can find a TV that supports 1080p60 frame sequential please send it.

#12
Posted 04/11/2011 04:30 PM   
FYI (I think the reference is there current line up) -

[quote]
Dear Valued Customer,

Thank you for your recent inquiry with VIZIO. I would be more than happy to help you with your concern. Here at VIZIO we do offer best in class technical support.

There are no known issues with keeping the display on the same screen for long periods of time.

The TV will support 1080p/60 frame packed, but only from 3D blu-ray player. This does require a 1.4 HDMI cable.

If you need any additional assistance or are interested in any additional products feel free to contact VIZIO at 877-698-4946 or chat with us at chat.vizio.com. Thanks and have a great day!

Ms. Raz Trejo
America’s Number One Hi-Def TV Company
The Home of Entertainment Freedom for All
800 Stevens Port Drive Suite DD750
Dakota Dunes SD 57049
Phone 877-878-4946
visit us: www.vizio.com
[/quote]
FYI (I think the reference is there current line up) -





Dear Valued Customer,



Thank you for your recent inquiry with VIZIO. I would be more than happy to help you with your concern. Here at VIZIO we do offer best in class technical support.



There are no known issues with keeping the display on the same screen for long periods of time.



The TV will support 1080p/60 frame packed, but only from 3D blu-ray player. This does require a 1.4 HDMI cable.



If you need any additional assistance or are interested in any additional products feel free to contact VIZIO at 877-698-4946 or chat with us at chat.vizio.com. Thanks and have a great day!



Ms. Raz Trejo

America’s Number One Hi-Def TV Company

The Home of Entertainment Freedom for All

800 Stevens Port Drive Suite DD750

Dakota Dunes SD 57049

Phone 877-878-4946

visit us: www.vizio.com

#13
Posted 04/11/2011 05:43 PM   
[quote name='dark_helmet' date='11 April 2011 - 12:43 PM' timestamp='1302543787' post='1222948']
FYI (I think the reference is there current line up) -
[/quote]

I'm 99% positive he meant 1080p24. There is no Blu-ray discs authored in 1080p60 3D. Please ask him again.
[quote name='dark_helmet' date='11 April 2011 - 12:43 PM' timestamp='1302543787' post='1222948']

FYI (I think the reference is there current line up) -





I'm 99% positive he meant 1080p24. There is no Blu-ray discs authored in 1080p60 3D. Please ask him again.

#14
Posted 04/11/2011 05:46 PM   
Sequential 3d would have horrendous motion blur... Imagine the eye strain of niether eye ever being in sync
Sequential 3d would have horrendous motion blur... Imagine the eye strain of niether eye ever being in sync

#15
Posted 04/11/2011 08:10 PM   
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