Is this the first TV 1920*1080P@120hz for 3dvision? could be?
http://www.amazon.com/Seiki-Digital-SE50UY04-50-Inch-120Hz/dp/B00BXF7I9M
I looked at this tv for 3dvision kit
I suppose
if use EDID driver and use this tv as crt monitor
then can be playble 1920*1080P60 fps for each eye with 3dvision
anyone have tried this already?
someon who using this tv said
he tested 120hz@1920*1080p with using software 'Custom Resoultion Utility'
but it was state of 2D
if i live in usa then i could test it instantly but unfotunatly i can not buy it in my country
really regreatable ...
I suppose
if use EDID driver and use this tv as crt monitor
then can be playble 1920*1080P60 fps for each eye with 3dvision
anyone have tried this already?
someon who using this tv said
he tested 120hz@1920*1080p with using software 'Custom Resoultion Utility'
but it was state of 2D
if i live in usa then i could test it instantly but unfotunatly i can not buy it in my country
really regreatable ...
Really interesting, I hope someone can give it a try. I'm also from Europe, so I won't be able to try it either.
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[quote="Laast"]These Seiki TVs don't seem to have HDMI 2.0. So no, no 3D 1080p@60hz[/quote]
yes i know it exactly
and i think it abnormally at first
but look at this review
http://imagination--factory.blogspot.kr/2013/08/77-4k-uhd-tv-seiki-39-4k-uhd-led-tv.html
he said about it
at first he could not find 1920*1080*120hz in his Windows
but after using 'Custom Resoultion Utility' and added it
then he could playable game at 120hz
even i am very confuse as like you :)
but it is true not false according to his post
he said about it
at first he could not find 1920*1080*120hz in his Windows
but after using 'Custom Resoultion Utility' and added it
then he could playable game at 120hz
even i am very confuse as like you :)
but it is true not false according to his post
HDMI currently supports the necessary bandwidth and those resolutions. It's just optional. And it wasn't until this past year that you could purchase HDMI controllers that ran at 325mhz. Silicon Image used to list specs and prices on their website. It was selling for 6.xx dollars. So not only is that part cheap, it's been available for a while. And like I said, 1080p@120hz and 1080p 3D @60fps have been optional (but ignored) resolutions for a while. TV manufacturers have just settled on the mandatory specs as their absolute baseline.
HDMI currently supports the necessary bandwidth and those resolutions. It's just optional. And it wasn't until this past year that you could purchase HDMI controllers that ran at 325mhz. Silicon Image used to list specs and prices on their website. It was selling for 6.xx dollars. So not only is that part cheap, it's been available for a while. And like I said, 1080p@120hz and 1080p 3D @60fps have been optional (but ignored) resolutions for a while. TV manufacturers have just settled on the mandatory specs as their absolute baseline.
A quick glance at their website: http://www.seiki.com/products/tv/SE39UY04-detail.php and after downloading their manual it would appear that this is just another generic TV with no special abilities and lots of misleading marketing. (Its a LCD TV using LED's for back light NOT a LED TV!)
A quick glance at their website: http://www.seiki.com/products/tv/SE39UY04-detail.php and after downloading their manual it would appear that this is just another generic TV with no special abilities and lots of misleading marketing. (Its a LCD TV using LED's for back light NOT a LED TV!)
[quote="mbloof"]A quick glance at their website: http://www.seiki.com/products/tv/SE39UY04-detail.php and after downloading their manual it would appear that this is just another generic TV with no special abilities and lots of misleading marketing. (Its a LCD TV using LED's for back light NOT a LED TV!)[/quote]
What exactly is an LED TV? That entire term is marketing jargon since there's not a single LED tv in existence. It's a good job by Madison Avenue, though. People get in a tizzy about LED, when the switch from CCFL to LED has been largely meaningless. I'll say largely, because in the past year some companies like Sony and Vizio have been leveraging the LED backlight to do strobing to allow full motion resolution without the crippling input lag that comes with interpolation.
People have also reported on websites devoted to this, that the Seiko'c can do 1080p @120hz. So that's not misleading either.
This whole scam with the LED marketing, though, is going to make marketing OLED a lot more difficult. People won't understand why it has such a premium attached to it.
mbloof said:A quick glance at their website: http://www.seiki.com/products/tv/SE39UY04-detail.php and after downloading their manual it would appear that this is just another generic TV with no special abilities and lots of misleading marketing. (Its a LCD TV using LED's for back light NOT a LED TV!)
What exactly is an LED TV? That entire term is marketing jargon since there's not a single LED tv in existence. It's a good job by Madison Avenue, though. People get in a tizzy about LED, when the switch from CCFL to LED has been largely meaningless. I'll say largely, because in the past year some companies like Sony and Vizio have been leveraging the LED backlight to do strobing to allow full motion resolution without the crippling input lag that comes with interpolation.
People have also reported on websites devoted to this, that the Seiko'c can do 1080p @120hz. So that's not misleading either.
This whole scam with the LED marketing, though, is going to make marketing OLED a lot more difficult. People won't understand why it has such a premium attached to it.
LED TV's DO exist, however they are very expensive and rarely available at the present time.
A purely LED TV has 3-4 different colored LED's making up each pixel or a large array of white LED's with color filters. LED's can change from on-off-on much faster than other display technology making the use of them preferred to other display technology for images involving motion.
LG, Sony and Samsung are planning to bring to market OLED TV's in the near future once they get manufacturing yields and costs down to marketable levels.
LED TV's DO exist, however they are very expensive and rarely available at the present time.
A purely LED TV has 3-4 different colored LED's making up each pixel or a large array of white LED's with color filters. LED's can change from on-off-on much faster than other display technology making the use of them preferred to other display technology for images involving motion.
LG, Sony and Samsung are planning to bring to market OLED TV's in the near future once they get manufacturing yields and costs down to marketable levels.
Isn't that the prototype that Sony showed a couple years ago? I don't think anyone has ever brought one to retail. And I'm not even sure Sony hasn't ditched it to go with OLED again. Seems like they were on OLED, then ditched it for LED, then quickly hopped back on the OLED train.
Isn't that the prototype that Sony showed a couple years ago? I don't think anyone has ever brought one to retail. And I'm not even sure Sony hasn't ditched it to go with OLED again. Seems like they were on OLED, then ditched it for LED, then quickly hopped back on the OLED train.
I just viewed the Sharp, Samsung, Sony, Panasonic, and one other 4k 3DTVs and i have to say, i am excited for the future. Only the Panasonic had HDMI 2.0 via displayport 1.2a, offering more bandwidth than HDMI 2.0 actually 21gbps vs 16. But even that i don't think has enough bandwidth for full 4k active 3D.
BUT. It has enough for checkerboard and other half resolutions and i went to a high-end TV store just to get an idea of how checkerboard would look on the Panasonic, because it only comes in 65" and i would have to have it pretty close to me. But i was amazed at how good i think checkerboard could look. I'd prefer a 46 or 55 inch, but 4k is so dense, 65 at the back of a sizable desk (just over a meter perhaps) would be just fine. Of course now your paying for this extra cost for size, but i think with 4ks, we may not have a choice since they're saying there isn't much difference from 1080p at normal viewing distances with smaller TVs so they may avoid 55" and under all together.
Just thinking what Skyrim would look like while in 3D sitting a meter away from that 65....
I just viewed the Sharp, Samsung, Sony, Panasonic, and one other 4k 3DTVs and i have to say, i am excited for the future. Only the Panasonic had HDMI 2.0 via displayport 1.2a, offering more bandwidth than HDMI 2.0 actually 21gbps vs 16. But even that i don't think has enough bandwidth for full 4k active 3D.
BUT. It has enough for checkerboard and other half resolutions and i went to a high-end TV store just to get an idea of how checkerboard would look on the Panasonic, because it only comes in 65" and i would have to have it pretty close to me. But i was amazed at how good i think checkerboard could look. I'd prefer a 46 or 55 inch, but 4k is so dense, 65 at the back of a sizable desk (just over a meter perhaps) would be just fine. Of course now your paying for this extra cost for size, but i think with 4ks, we may not have a choice since they're saying there isn't much difference from 1080p at normal viewing distances with smaller TVs so they may avoid 55" and under all together.
Just thinking what Skyrim would look like while in 3D sitting a meter away from that 65....
[quote="Libertine"]
Just thinking what Skyrim would look like while in 3D sitting a meter away from that 65....[/quote]
I'd like to see Skyrim, Tombraider2013 and a handful of others rendered in 4K 3D on a screen that fills my field of vision.
But here's where I have some mixed feelings. If the screen is to close or to large for my selected viewing distance I'll have to move my head. Granted I could get specially prescribed glasses just for gaming (much like I have for work) which helps reduce the head movement but having to move your head constantly for any length of time is a sure fire fatigue generator.
I forget if it was Panasonic or LG who has the front projection Laser TV but I got a chance to look at one at Fry's the other day. Pretty impressive picture quality and since the image is essentially drawn by laser beams on a passive surface there would be zero pixel decay, motion blur or cross talk. I think the model I looked at was only $6-8K. However its not all that interesting as its not 3D.
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Libertine said:
Just thinking what Skyrim would look like while in 3D sitting a meter away from that 65....
I'd like to see Skyrim, Tombraider2013 and a handful of others rendered in 4K 3D on a screen that fills my field of vision.
But here's where I have some mixed feelings. If the screen is to close or to large for my selected viewing distance I'll have to move my head. Granted I could get specially prescribed glasses just for gaming (much like I have for work) which helps reduce the head movement but having to move your head constantly for any length of time is a sure fire fatigue generator.
I forget if it was Panasonic or LG who has the front projection Laser TV but I got a chance to look at one at Fry's the other day. Pretty impressive picture quality and since the image is essentially drawn by laser beams on a passive surface there would be zero pixel decay, motion blur or cross talk. I think the model I looked at was only $6-8K. However its not all that interesting as its not 3D.
65" comes pretty close to filling your field of view when taking into account the 3d goggles, however once in 2d there is no way you can sit 1.5 metres from it. my eyes go crazy... i wonder if 4k would make that acceptable enough for a computer desk?
to me, turning your head in 3D games is what its all about. getting sucked into the game feels more like real life when you find yourself looking around at things in a room
65" comes pretty close to filling your field of view when taking into account the 3d goggles, however once in 2d there is no way you can sit 1.5 metres from it. my eyes go crazy... i wonder if 4k would make that acceptable enough for a computer desk?
to me, turning your head in 3D games is what its all about. getting sucked into the game feels more like real life when you find yourself looking around at things in a room
I've grown to love the small amount of head movement I "get to do" on my 46", especially when pulled closer. Its akin to the movement you do in the Rift, just not nearly as much. Its not fatiguing for me at all, but this may be a person to person thing. I do believe each time i upgraded my monitor's size, from 19 to 24 to 30 to 46, i always noticed the additional head movement and i do remember also wondering if it was going to be a problem. However, im happy to report I never notice it and actually liked it a lot in Skyrim.
I had a 180 hours of Skyrim play. At the start i bumped up my FOV just a bit, but over time i increased it heavily, all the way to 120. At 120 I don't think i moved my head around much because i also pulled the monitor very close, like 1 - 1.5 meters and i really liked it actually, but also because of the stretching distortion. In the end my sweet spot was about 100 degrees i think, where the distortion wasn't that much and i used head movement to look around just a bit and really enjoyed that part of it.
I've grown to love the small amount of head movement I "get to do" on my 46", especially when pulled closer. Its akin to the movement you do in the Rift, just not nearly as much. Its not fatiguing for me at all, but this may be a person to person thing. I do believe each time i upgraded my monitor's size, from 19 to 24 to 30 to 46, i always noticed the additional head movement and i do remember also wondering if it was going to be a problem. However, im happy to report I never notice it and actually liked it a lot in Skyrim.
I had a 180 hours of Skyrim play. At the start i bumped up my FOV just a bit, but over time i increased it heavily, all the way to 120. At 120 I don't think i moved my head around much because i also pulled the monitor very close, like 1 - 1.5 meters and i really liked it actually, but also because of the stretching distortion. In the end my sweet spot was about 100 degrees i think, where the distortion wasn't that much and i used head movement to look around just a bit and really enjoyed that part of it.
I looked at this tv for 3dvision kit
I suppose
if use EDID driver and use this tv as crt monitor
then can be playble 1920*1080P60 fps for each eye with 3dvision
anyone have tried this already?
someon who using this tv said
he tested 120hz@1920*1080p with using software 'Custom Resoultion Utility'
but it was state of 2D
if i live in usa then i could test it instantly but unfotunatly i can not buy it in my country
really regreatable ...
i7 8700K @4.9
GTX1080Ti
Asrock Z370 Gamming K6
Windows10 64bit
LG OLED UHD 3dtv 55E6K
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yes i know it exactly
and i think it abnormally at first
but look at this review
http://imagination--factory.blogspot.kr/2013/08/77-4k-uhd-tv-seiki-39-4k-uhd-led-tv.html
he said about it
at first he could not find 1920*1080*120hz in his Windows
but after using 'Custom Resoultion Utility' and added it
then he could playable game at 120hz
even i am very confuse as like you :)
but it is true not false according to his post
i7 8700K @4.9
GTX1080Ti
Asrock Z370 Gamming K6
Windows10 64bit
LG OLED UHD 3dtv 55E6K
i7-2600K-4.5Ghz/Corsair H100i/8GB/GTX780SC-SLI/Win7-64/1200W-PSU/Samsung 840-500GB SSD/Coolermaster-Tower/Benq 1080ST @ 100"
What exactly is an LED TV? That entire term is marketing jargon since there's not a single LED tv in existence. It's a good job by Madison Avenue, though. People get in a tizzy about LED, when the switch from CCFL to LED has been largely meaningless. I'll say largely, because in the past year some companies like Sony and Vizio have been leveraging the LED backlight to do strobing to allow full motion resolution without the crippling input lag that comes with interpolation.
People have also reported on websites devoted to this, that the Seiko'c can do 1080p @120hz. So that's not misleading either.
This whole scam with the LED marketing, though, is going to make marketing OLED a lot more difficult. People won't understand why it has such a premium attached to it.
A purely LED TV has 3-4 different colored LED's making up each pixel or a large array of white LED's with color filters. LED's can change from on-off-on much faster than other display technology making the use of them preferred to other display technology for images involving motion.
LG, Sony and Samsung are planning to bring to market OLED TV's in the near future once they get manufacturing yields and costs down to marketable levels.
i7-2600K-4.5Ghz/Corsair H100i/8GB/GTX780SC-SLI/Win7-64/1200W-PSU/Samsung 840-500GB SSD/Coolermaster-Tower/Benq 1080ST @ 100"
BUT. It has enough for checkerboard and other half resolutions and i went to a high-end TV store just to get an idea of how checkerboard would look on the Panasonic, because it only comes in 65" and i would have to have it pretty close to me. But i was amazed at how good i think checkerboard could look. I'd prefer a 46 or 55 inch, but 4k is so dense, 65 at the back of a sizable desk (just over a meter perhaps) would be just fine. Of course now your paying for this extra cost for size, but i think with 4ks, we may not have a choice since they're saying there isn't much difference from 1080p at normal viewing distances with smaller TVs so they may avoid 55" and under all together.
Just thinking what Skyrim would look like while in 3D sitting a meter away from that 65....
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I'd like to see Skyrim, Tombraider2013 and a handful of others rendered in 4K 3D on a screen that fills my field of vision.
But here's where I have some mixed feelings. If the screen is to close or to large for my selected viewing distance I'll have to move my head. Granted I could get specially prescribed glasses just for gaming (much like I have for work) which helps reduce the head movement but having to move your head constantly for any length of time is a sure fire fatigue generator.
I forget if it was Panasonic or LG who has the front projection Laser TV but I got a chance to look at one at Fry's the other day. Pretty impressive picture quality and since the image is essentially drawn by laser beams on a passive surface there would be zero pixel decay, motion blur or cross talk. I think the model I looked at was only $6-8K. However its not all that interesting as its not 3D.
The pre black Friday HD/UHD deals (including the Seiki mentioned above) are listed here:
http://hdguru.com/pre-black-friday-hdtv-deals-save-up-to-50/#more-11807
i7-2600K-4.5Ghz/Corsair H100i/8GB/GTX780SC-SLI/Win7-64/1200W-PSU/Samsung 840-500GB SSD/Coolermaster-Tower/Benq 1080ST @ 100"
to me, turning your head in 3D games is what its all about. getting sucked into the game feels more like real life when you find yourself looking around at things in a room
65" Samsung ES8000 LED, i7-3820, Asus P9X79, GTX680 SLI, Win8 Checkerboard /Win7 Frame Sequential
if so 120hz possible
i7 8700K @4.9
GTX1080Ti
Asrock Z370 Gamming K6
Windows10 64bit
LG OLED UHD 3dtv 55E6K
I had a 180 hours of Skyrim play. At the start i bumped up my FOV just a bit, but over time i increased it heavily, all the way to 120. At 120 I don't think i moved my head around much because i also pulled the monitor very close, like 1 - 1.5 meters and i really liked it actually, but also because of the stretching distortion. In the end my sweet spot was about 100 degrees i think, where the distortion wasn't that much and i used head movement to look around just a bit and really enjoyed that part of it.
46" Samsung ES7500 3DTV (checkerboard, high FOV as desktop monitor, highly recommend!) - Metro 2033 3D PNG screens - Metro LL filter realism mod - Flugan's Deus Ex:HR Depth changers - Nvidia tech support online form - Nvidia support: 1-800-797-6530