[quote="Ricky Martyr"]Developers said frame rate is unlockable in the options menu, so I guess 120 frames are supported[/quote]
Hope I can get 120 FPS solid with my setup . Since my last investment only a few games shown potential in SLI 'GTX680's.
[quote="Airion"]Thanks to the back and forth with the critics, the thread has been at the top of of that forum for nearly a week! [/quote]
The thread is now over 3 weeks old, and still topping the forum! Over 100 replies, almost 3000 views. If this game doesn't get 3D, it won't be for lack of making the case or raising awareness! Thanks to all of you who have added your support. If you're interested in the game, want it in 3D, and haven't posted yet, please take the time to register and show your support, no matter how brief:
[url]http://forums.2kgames.com/showthread.php?205736-PC-3D-Vision-Support-please![/url]
I'm going to gift this game at full price to some friends if this gets 3D!
Airion said:Thanks to the back and forth with the critics, the thread has been at the top of of that forum for nearly a week!
The thread is now over 3 weeks old, and still topping the forum! Over 100 replies, almost 3000 views. If this game doesn't get 3D, it won't be for lack of making the case or raising awareness! Thanks to all of you who have added your support. If you're interested in the game, want it in 3D, and haven't posted yet, please take the time to register and show your support, no matter how brief:
thumbs up for Airion here, the thread seems to be keeping momentem with new people signing up to the bioshock forums! developers are there to make money, the more people that raise the desire to have 3D, the more they will be inclined to include it, either with the game launch, or potentially afterwards.
please every passive reader, get active!
thumbs up for Airion here, the thread seems to be keeping momentem with new people signing up to the bioshock forums! developers are there to make money, the more people that raise the desire to have 3D, the more they will be inclined to include it, either with the game launch, or potentially afterwards.
The forummods have changed the title:
If you read this and want 3D support, please join in:
http://forums.2kgames.com/showthread.php?205736-PC-3D-Vision-Oculus-Rift-Support-please!/page4
What do you guys think? My reaction is lumping Oculus Rift into the 3D Vision support thread (by changing the title at this stage) dilutes our efforts to bring 3D Vision to the attention of the developers. The Oculus Rift was a tangent until this particular mod decided the two are the same in his mind. Maybe I'm over reacting. At least we can discuss it freely here. Here's what I posted, in case it gets removed:
[quote="Airion"]
[quote="japester"]
But I'll adjust the title to reflect both topics. And really, all of this should have been handled via PM since it's technically off-topic, and nobody will be interested in this moderation talk after a little while.[/quote]
I felt this was pretty professional:
[quote="IllusionOfLife"]
Do not talk about Moderation issues in the public forum, that is against forum rules. If you want to discuss this further please contact a Mod or Admin (2K David, Ga1Friday, drcane, or JohnImah) via PM.[/quote]
Your post doesn't seem to reflect this at all, but I'll take the advice to pursue it in PMs as well.
That aside, I strongly feel you're diluting/sabotaging this thread by throwing in Oculus Rift support retroactively into the title. Yes, they share 3D, but they're different technically. Different products, different burdens on the developers to support them. I hope the Oculus Rift can get support too, but it's a bigger hurdle than Nvidia 3D Vision, which is what the vast majority of posters here have been requesting support for. No one even has an Oculus Rift! 3D Vision is here now, and we want support for 3D Vision.[/quote]
What do you guys think? My reaction is lumping Oculus Rift into the 3D Vision support thread (by changing the title at this stage) dilutes our efforts to bring 3D Vision to the attention of the developers. The Oculus Rift was a tangent until this particular mod decided the two are the same in his mind. Maybe I'm over reacting. At least we can discuss it freely here. Here's what I posted, in case it gets removed:
Airion said:
japester said:
But I'll adjust the title to reflect both topics. And really, all of this should have been handled via PM since it's technically off-topic, and nobody will be interested in this moderation talk after a little while.
I felt this was pretty professional:
IllusionOfLife said:
Do not talk about Moderation issues in the public forum, that is against forum rules. If you want to discuss this further please contact a Mod or Admin (2K David, Ga1Friday, drcane, or JohnImah) via PM.
Your post doesn't seem to reflect this at all, but I'll take the advice to pursue it in PMs as well.
That aside, I strongly feel you're diluting/sabotaging this thread by throwing in Oculus Rift support retroactively into the title. Yes, they share 3D, but they're different technically. Different products, different burdens on the developers to support them. I hope the Oculus Rift can get support too, but it's a bigger hurdle than Nvidia 3D Vision, which is what the vast majority of posters here have been requesting support for. No one even has an Oculus Rift! 3D Vision is here now, and we want support for 3D Vision.
Not sure it's [i]deliberate [/i]sabotage of the thread to put Rift in the title, but it's certainly wrong.
I just added a comment there to that effect, which is sent to the moderators, so who knows if it will be allowed.
But, my premise is that 3D Vision is not a 'niche'.
[url]http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Nvidia-3D-Vision-2-3dtv-gaming-glasses,13709.html[/url]
Says that half a million 3D Vision version 1 kits were sold. And you look at the TVs supported via 3D TV Play, and I think you can conservatively guess that there are at least 1 Million users of 3D Vision alone. (that doesn't include AMD or Tridef).
I just don't think anyone can say with a straight face that 1 Million users is 'niche.'
Says that half a million 3D Vision version 1 kits were sold. And you look at the TVs supported via 3D TV Play, and I think you can conservatively guess that there are at least 1 Million users of 3D Vision alone. (that doesn't include AMD or Tridef).
I just don't think anyone can say with a straight face that 1 Million users is 'niche.'
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Hey Airion, to be honest I think normally it's pretty dumb to club together OR with nvidia 3D, but, with ANY real 3D support in the game it will effect nvidia 3D positively I'm sure. I personally think you shouldn't get your teeth stuck into it on the forum, as it takes away from the positive message of pro 3D. Trying to keep the topic on why 3D should be included into Bioshock is mor likely to aid our interests.
bo3b, i completely agree. The mods keep trying to make out this is a niche, "hot rod" product... 3D.... it's really not helpful and its simply not true. PC gaming grows every year and everyone i know who games on PC games in 3D. it's a slow starter, mainly because of all the misinformation about 3D, and poor 3D in Hollywood, but it is definitely not as niche and enthusiast as they think.
3D is not quad sli gaming...
btw, a HUGE thank you to the large amount of people signing up to make your thoughts known. Please, we all know there are more passive readers out there with 3D systems. Log in and let your voice be heard! we are the growing minority, and we will only be the minority for so long.
Hey Airion, to be honest I think normally it's pretty dumb to club together OR with nvidia 3D, but, with ANY real 3D support in the game it will effect nvidia 3D positively I'm sure. I personally think you shouldn't get your teeth stuck into it on the forum, as it takes away from the positive message of pro 3D. Trying to keep the topic on why 3D should be included into Bioshock is mor likely to aid our interests.
bo3b, i completely agree. The mods keep trying to make out this is a niche, "hot rod" product... 3D.... it's really not helpful and its simply not true. PC gaming grows every year and everyone i know who games on PC games in 3D. it's a slow starter, mainly because of all the misinformation about 3D, and poor 3D in Hollywood, but it is definitely not as niche and enthusiast as they think.
3D is not quad sli gaming...
btw, a HUGE thank you to the large amount of people signing up to make your thoughts known. Please, we all know there are more passive readers out there with 3D systems. Log in and let your voice be heard! we are the growing minority, and we will only be the minority for so long.
thinking about it, airion, or rift in the title may help us more than work against us. The devs have expressed an interest in OR. If i could play tis game in VR, i would buy the OR dev kit for this alone!!!
but hey, thats just me... i want to be IN the game :-)
thinking about it, airion, or rift in the title may help us more than work against us. The devs have expressed an interest in OR. If i could play tis game in VR, i would buy the OR dev kit for this alone!!!
but hey, thats just me... i want to be IN the game :-)
As a guy who has seen VR wannabe technologies coming and failing since I was a little kid (that's 20 years, to be exact), I'm very skeptical about the Rift. With that said, I agree with Airion once again. The Oculus Rift is way different and more complicated than 3D Vision, it doesn't have a release date or at least it's not really upcoming and it may not be out long enough to get all this support. Quite frankly, hearing developers say they are more than ready to support OR makes me laugh: you're not able to use a Directx bound, relatively easy technology like 3D Vision, but you're ready to jump on the OR bandwagon? Gimme a break!
Btw, we're free to discuss things here as we are there: this "fear" of 2K moderators has really gotten on my nerves. Also, they were the first to say we didn't have to be off topic and talk about BS Infinite in 3D and now they've brought a currently useless subject like OR. Moderators are supposed to moderate, not to create controversies at any cost
As a guy who has seen VR wannabe technologies coming and failing since I was a little kid (that's 20 years, to be exact), I'm very skeptical about the Rift. With that said, I agree with Airion once again. The Oculus Rift is way different and more complicated than 3D Vision, it doesn't have a release date or at least it's not really upcoming and it may not be out long enough to get all this support. Quite frankly, hearing developers say they are more than ready to support OR makes me laugh: you're not able to use a Directx bound, relatively easy technology like 3D Vision, but you're ready to jump on the OR bandwagon? Gimme a break!
Btw, we're free to discuss things here as we are there: this "fear" of 2K moderators has really gotten on my nerves. Also, they were the first to say we didn't have to be off topic and talk about BS Infinite in 3D and now they've brought a currently useless subject like OR. Moderators are supposed to moderate, not to create controversies at any cost
I've feel the same as you Ricky, I'll believe it when I see it. My first VR experience was way back in 2000 in Epson, Florida. We havn't progressed too far from there since. But VR has been crap for several reasons, many of which the OR seems to correct.
1) low FOV (40 degrees on the best I have seen) OR has 90 degrees horizontal, that's a huge increase
2) simple positional tracking (OR has 9 degree 1000hz traking... should be pretty accurate.
the only glaring issue with the OR is that the resolution is abysmal. This has been said by Palmer Luckey to be corrected in the consumer build, although I guess we'll still likely see at most 1080 screen (which is actually halved, one per eye)
So other than res, OR really does have a lot of good things going for it, its very cheap also! and has a lot of big names behind it. The fact that dev's are more willing to work on this than NVidia 3D does seem weird though. OR needs 3D (otherwise why such low res). If it works in 3D on OR, why not on NVidia as well, and DDD etc.
What you say about the mods is bang on though. I am not so used to forums, only got proactive now because I read a mods post over there and thought it was pretty strong and not entirely correct. The mods do seem to be like sheriffs in an old western film. Do as I say, not as I do!!! But... it is there forum, so I guess we have to play by their rules, to definitely keep the criticism of mods here, or PM them, or IG, but don't post it on forum as it will only likely derail the threads topic.
I've feel the same as you Ricky, I'll believe it when I see it. My first VR experience was way back in 2000 in Epson, Florida. We havn't progressed too far from there since. But VR has been crap for several reasons, many of which the OR seems to correct.
1) low FOV (40 degrees on the best I have seen) OR has 90 degrees horizontal, that's a huge increase
2) simple positional tracking (OR has 9 degree 1000hz traking... should be pretty accurate.
the only glaring issue with the OR is that the resolution is abysmal. This has been said by Palmer Luckey to be corrected in the consumer build, although I guess we'll still likely see at most 1080 screen (which is actually halved, one per eye)
So other than res, OR really does have a lot of good things going for it, its very cheap also! and has a lot of big names behind it. The fact that dev's are more willing to work on this than NVidia 3D does seem weird though. OR needs 3D (otherwise why such low res). If it works in 3D on OR, why not on NVidia as well, and DDD etc.
What you say about the mods is bang on though. I am not so used to forums, only got proactive now because I read a mods post over there and thought it was pretty strong and not entirely correct. The mods do seem to be like sheriffs in an old western film. Do as I say, not as I do!!! But... it is there forum, so I guess we have to play by their rules, to definitely keep the criticism of mods here, or PM them, or IG, but don't post it on forum as it will only likely derail the threads topic.
Much appreciated!
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@everybody reading this:
please join in:!
http://forums.2kgames.com/showthread.php?205736-PC-3D-Vision-Support-please!
danke schöen :-)
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Hope I can get 120 FPS solid with my setup . Since my last investment only a few games shown potential in SLI 'GTX680's.
GIGABYTE GV-N680OC-2GD GeForce GTX 680 2GB 'sli' -- i7 3770k overclocked 4.3 -- sniper ram 16gb 1600 -- SSD crucial M4 -- OCZ 850w PSu .
please join in:!
http://forums.2kgames.com/showthread.php?205736-PC-3D-Vision-Support-please!
The thread is now over 3 weeks old, and still topping the forum! Over 100 replies, almost 3000 views. If this game doesn't get 3D, it won't be for lack of making the case or raising awareness! Thanks to all of you who have added your support. If you're interested in the game, want it in 3D, and haven't posted yet, please take the time to register and show your support, no matter how brief:
http://forums.2kgames.com/showthread.php?205736-PC-3D-Vision-Support-please!
I'm going to gift this game at full price to some friends if this gets 3D!
please every passive reader, get active!
OS: Win 8 CPU: I7 4770k 3.5GZ GPU: GTX 780ti
If you read this and want 3D support, please join in:
http://forums.2kgames.com/showthread.php?205736-PC-3D-Vision-Oculus-Rift-Support-please!/page4
I just added a comment there to that effect, which is sent to the moderators, so who knows if it will be allowed.
But, my premise is that 3D Vision is not a 'niche'.
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Nvidia-3D-Vision-2-3dtv-gaming-glasses,13709.html
Says that half a million 3D Vision version 1 kits were sold. And you look at the TVs supported via 3D TV Play, and I think you can conservatively guess that there are at least 1 Million users of 3D Vision alone. (that doesn't include AMD or Tridef).
I just don't think anyone can say with a straight face that 1 Million users is 'niche.'
Acer H5360 (1280x720@120Hz) - ASUS VG248QE with GSync mod - 3D Vision 1&2 - Driver 372.54
GTX 970 - i5-4670K@4.2GHz - 12GB RAM - Win7x64+evilKB2670838 - 4 Disk X25 RAID
SAGER NP9870-S - GTX 980 - i7-6700K - Win10 Pro 1607
Latest 3Dmigoto Release
Bo3b's School for ShaderHackers
bo3b, i completely agree. The mods keep trying to make out this is a niche, "hot rod" product... 3D.... it's really not helpful and its simply not true. PC gaming grows every year and everyone i know who games on PC games in 3D. it's a slow starter, mainly because of all the misinformation about 3D, and poor 3D in Hollywood, but it is definitely not as niche and enthusiast as they think.
3D is not quad sli gaming...
btw, a HUGE thank you to the large amount of people signing up to make your thoughts known. Please, we all know there are more passive readers out there with 3D systems. Log in and let your voice be heard! we are the growing minority, and we will only be the minority for so long.
OS: Win 8 CPU: I7 4770k 3.5GZ GPU: GTX 780ti
but hey, thats just me... i want to be IN the game :-)
OS: Win 8 CPU: I7 4770k 3.5GZ GPU: GTX 780ti
Btw, we're free to discuss things here as we are there: this "fear" of 2K moderators has really gotten on my nerves. Also, they were the first to say we didn't have to be off topic and talk about BS Infinite in 3D and now they've brought a currently useless subject like OR. Moderators are supposed to moderate, not to create controversies at any cost
1) low FOV (40 degrees on the best I have seen) OR has 90 degrees horizontal, that's a huge increase
2) simple positional tracking (OR has 9 degree 1000hz traking... should be pretty accurate.
the only glaring issue with the OR is that the resolution is abysmal. This has been said by Palmer Luckey to be corrected in the consumer build, although I guess we'll still likely see at most 1080 screen (which is actually halved, one per eye)
So other than res, OR really does have a lot of good things going for it, its very cheap also! and has a lot of big names behind it. The fact that dev's are more willing to work on this than NVidia 3D does seem weird though. OR needs 3D (otherwise why such low res). If it works in 3D on OR, why not on NVidia as well, and DDD etc.
What you say about the mods is bang on though. I am not so used to forums, only got proactive now because I read a mods post over there and thought it was pretty strong and not entirely correct. The mods do seem to be like sheriffs in an old western film. Do as I say, not as I do!!! But... it is there forum, so I guess we have to play by their rules, to definitely keep the criticism of mods here, or PM them, or IG, but don't post it on forum as it will only likely derail the threads topic.
OS: Win 8 CPU: I7 4770k 3.5GZ GPU: GTX 780ti