[quote name='roller11' date='23 December 2011 - 10:32 AM' timestamp='1324654320' post='1346391']
I guess you somehow missed the screen shot I posted, check it out.
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Yes I saw that screenshot, its the same screenshot you've been posting for over a month using an unofficial workaround before the official 3D patch from DICE. Patch your game, and use the native implementation, then see if you still have this problem because as I said, I have not seen anyone using the in-game native implementation and complaining about this problem.
[quote name='roller11' date='23 December 2011 - 10:32 AM' timestamp='1324654320' post='1346391']
I guess you somehow missed the screen shot I posted, check it out.
Yes I saw that screenshot, its the same screenshot you've been posting for over a month using an unofficial workaround before the official 3D patch from DICE. Patch your game, and use the native implementation, then see if you still have this problem because as I said, I have not seen anyone using the in-game native implementation and complaining about this problem.
[quote name='chiz' date='23 December 2011 - 12:11 PM' timestamp='1324667491' post='1346481']
I have not seen anyone using the in-game native implementation and complaining about this problem.
[/quote]
That means absolutely nothing, no complaints doesn't mean no problem.
I haven't seen any SS that shows the problem has been fixed, so my concern is a valid one.
[quote name='roller11' date='27 December 2011 - 12:02 AM' timestamp='1324962137' post='1347561']
That means absolutely nothing, no complaints doesn't mean no problem.
I haven't seen any SS that shows the problem has been fixed, so my concern is a valid one.
[/quote]
No its not valid and never has been a valid concern with the [b]official 3D patch [/b]from DICE. You used an unofficial workaround that was most likely disabled in the launch build for the very same problems you captured in your screenshot.
If it were a problem, I'm sure myself and anyone else who played through the first 5 minutes of the campaign would have noticed it, but not a single person complained about that specific issue. Plenty of other complaints about performance, but nothing about shadows or lighting being incorrectly rendered.
[quote name='roller11' date='27 December 2011 - 12:02 AM' timestamp='1324962137' post='1347561']
That means absolutely nothing, no complaints doesn't mean no problem.
I haven't seen any SS that shows the problem has been fixed, so my concern is a valid one.
No its not valid and never has been a valid concern with the official 3D patch from DICE. You used an unofficial workaround that was most likely disabled in the launch build for the very same problems you captured in your screenshot.
If it were a problem, I'm sure myself and anyone else who played through the first 5 minutes of the campaign would have noticed it, but not a single person complained about that specific issue. Plenty of other complaints about performance, but nothing about shadows or lighting being incorrectly rendered.
[quote name='chiz' date='26 December 2011 - 10:13 PM' timestamp='1324962835' post='1347564']
never has been a valid concern[/quote]
Yes it is! It became a valid concern when a serious flaw was verified. More to the point, when the problem was proven to exist, nobody but me was complaining. For you to vilify me for asking a perfectly valid question is just plain wrong.
[quote]If it were a problem, I'm sure myself and anyone else who played through the first 5 minutes of the campaign would have noticed it, but not a single person complained about that specific issue.[/quote]
Not noticing and not going to the trouble of complaining are two different things. Ironically, your own observation only serves to underscore the flaw in your arguement by pointing out the fact that people played the game when it had the problem, but nobody complained, disproving your "lack of proof of guilt is proof of innocence" proposition.
As to the patch, DICE never claimed that it fixed the problem cited. Even if it did, how many times have we seen a patch not fix a problem?
This is no longer about whether or not the game has a lighting problem, your pic proves it does not. This is about whether or not a person is guilty of wrong doing for asking a perfectly reasonable question. Nobody wants to buy a game only to find out it is unsatisfactory due to a serious bug, that's why we have forums. Nothing wrong with that.
[quote name='chiz' date='26 December 2011 - 10:13 PM' timestamp='1324962835' post='1347564']
never has been a valid concern
Yes it is! It became a valid concern when a serious flaw was verified. More to the point, when the problem was proven to exist, nobody but me was complaining. For you to vilify me for asking a perfectly valid question is just plain wrong.
If it were a problem, I'm sure myself and anyone else who played through the first 5 minutes of the campaign would have noticed it, but not a single person complained about that specific issue.
Not noticing and not going to the trouble of complaining are two different things. Ironically, your own observation only serves to underscore the flaw in your arguement by pointing out the fact that people played the game when it had the problem, but nobody complained, disproving your "lack of proof of guilt is proof of innocence" proposition.
As to the patch, DICE never claimed that it fixed the problem cited. Even if it did, how many times have we seen a patch not fix a problem?
This is no longer about whether or not the game has a lighting problem, your pic proves it does not. This is about whether or not a person is guilty of wrong doing for asking a perfectly reasonable question. Nobody wants to buy a game only to find out it is unsatisfactory due to a serious bug, that's why we have forums. Nothing wrong with that.
[quote name='roller11' date='27 December 2011 - 01:20 AM' timestamp='1324966825' post='1347578']
Yes it is! It became a valid concern when a serious flaw was verified. More to the point, when the problem was proven to exist, nobody but me was complaining. For you to vilify me for asking a perfectly valid question is just plain wrong.[/quote]
No it was never a valid concern because the problem never exhibited itself in the official 3D solution presented by DICE. I'm "vilifying" you because you've incorrectly interjected your flawed opinion that the game is unplayable because of this self-induced bug, when all it would've taken you is 5 minutes with the official 3D build to see it was never an issue.
[quote name='roller11' date='27 December 2011 - 01:20 AM' timestamp='1324966825' post='1347578']Not noticing and not going to the trouble of complaining are two different things. Ironically, your own observation only serves to underscore the flaw in your arguement by pointing out the fact that people played the game when it had the problem, but nobody complained, disproving your "lack of proof of guilt is proof of innocence" proposition.
As to the patch, DICE never claimed that it fixed the problem cited. Even if it did, how many times have we seen a patch not fix a problem?
This is no longer about whether or not the game has a lighting problem, your pic proves it does not. This is about whether or not a person is guilty of wrong doing for asking a perfectly reasonable question. Nobody wants to buy a game only to find out it is unsatisfactory due to a serious bug, that's why we have forums. Nothing wrong with that.
[/quote]
Nonsense, more than a few people took the time to correct you when you repeatedly insisted this was a problem in the BF3 thread, so obviously people 1) did bother to take notice 2) noticed it was not a problem and 3) took the time to inform you it was not a problem.
[quote name='roller11' date='04 December 2011 - 07:12 PM' timestamp='1323043933' post='1337637']
None of these issues matter unless the over riding bug shown in this attachment is fixed.
[/quote]
[quote name='photios' date='05 December 2011 - 10:36 AM' timestamp='1323099382' post='1337882']
roller11,
Wasn't that screenshot taken using the hack to enable 3D before DICE implemented 3D in their released version of Battlefield 3?
photios
[/quote]
[quote name='Arioch' date='05 December 2011 - 10:40 AM' timestamp='1323099601' post='1337883']
I'm not seeing any glitches like that since the 3D patch got released.
[/quote]
[quote name='ds445' date='05 December 2011 - 03:16 PM' timestamp='1323116201' post='1338012']
Neither am I - I suppose you're running an old pre-patch version?
[/quote]
[quote name='Cheezeman' date='05 December 2011 - 03:34 PM' timestamp='1323117293' post='1338018']
Probably a pirated version.
[/quote]
Of course, all it would've taken you was 5 minutes on the very first campaign mission to verify for yourself the lighting/shadowing problem in your picture was never an issue in the official 3D release build from DICE. End of story.
[quote name='roller11' date='27 December 2011 - 01:20 AM' timestamp='1324966825' post='1347578']
Yes it is! It became a valid concern when a serious flaw was verified. More to the point, when the problem was proven to exist, nobody but me was complaining. For you to vilify me for asking a perfectly valid question is just plain wrong.
No it was never a valid concern because the problem never exhibited itself in the official 3D solution presented by DICE. I'm "vilifying" you because you've incorrectly interjected your flawed opinion that the game is unplayable because of this self-induced bug, when all it would've taken you is 5 minutes with the official 3D build to see it was never an issue.
[quote name='roller11' date='27 December 2011 - 01:20 AM' timestamp='1324966825' post='1347578']Not noticing and not going to the trouble of complaining are two different things. Ironically, your own observation only serves to underscore the flaw in your arguement by pointing out the fact that people played the game when it had the problem, but nobody complained, disproving your "lack of proof of guilt is proof of innocence" proposition.
As to the patch, DICE never claimed that it fixed the problem cited. Even if it did, how many times have we seen a patch not fix a problem?
This is no longer about whether or not the game has a lighting problem, your pic proves it does not. This is about whether or not a person is guilty of wrong doing for asking a perfectly reasonable question. Nobody wants to buy a game only to find out it is unsatisfactory due to a serious bug, that's why we have forums. Nothing wrong with that.
Nonsense, more than a few people took the time to correct you when you repeatedly insisted this was a problem in the BF3 thread, so obviously people 1) did bother to take notice 2) noticed it was not a problem and 3) took the time to inform you it was not a problem.
[quote name='roller11' date='04 December 2011 - 07:12 PM' timestamp='1323043933' post='1337637']
None of these issues matter unless the over riding bug shown in this attachment is fixed.
[quote name='photios' date='05 December 2011 - 10:36 AM' timestamp='1323099382' post='1337882']
roller11,
Wasn't that screenshot taken using the hack to enable 3D before DICE implemented 3D in their released version of Battlefield 3?
photios
[quote name='Arioch' date='05 December 2011 - 10:40 AM' timestamp='1323099601' post='1337883']
I'm not seeing any glitches like that since the 3D patch got released.
[quote name='ds445' date='05 December 2011 - 03:16 PM' timestamp='1323116201' post='1338012']
Neither am I - I suppose you're running an old pre-patch version?
[quote name='Cheezeman' date='05 December 2011 - 03:34 PM' timestamp='1323117293' post='1338018']
Probably a pirated version.
Of course, all it would've taken you was 5 minutes on the very first campaign mission to verify for yourself the lighting/shadowing problem in your picture was never an issue in the official 3D release build from DICE. End of story.
Roller does my head in to be honest, all he comes on here for is to try to promote "the Roller mod" ,tells people not to buy any type of tv's except old sumsung builds because of checkerboard and now when a problem is being explained to him he just fires back with nonsense.
Roller does my head in to be honest, all he comes on here for is to try to promote "the Roller mod" ,tells people not to buy any type of tv's except old sumsung builds because of checkerboard and now when a problem is being explained to him he just fires back with nonsense.
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[quote name='chiz' date='26 December 2011 - 11:39 PM' timestamp='1324967951' post='1347580']
No it was never a valid concern because the problem never exhibited itself in the official 3D solution presented by DICE. I'm "vilifying" you because you've incorrectly interjected your flawed opinion that the game is unplayable because of this self-induced bug, when all it would've taken you is 5 minutes with the official 3D build to see it was never an issue.[/quote]
I'll say this again....I ask the question because I don't have, have never had the game. All I have is a screen shot of the game before the patch, one frame of video which shows a serious bug. If I had the game, then why in the world would I ask whether or not the game was still flawed after the patch???? I would simply get the answer by testing and be 100% certain.
[quote]Nonsense, more than a few people took the time to correct you when you repeatedly insisted this was a problem in the BF3 thread, so obviously people 1) did bother to take notice 2) noticed it was not a problem and 3) took the time to inform you it was not a problem.[/quote]
I honestly never saw these responses, thanks for posting them. To your credit, you back up what you said by posting proof, unlike that idiot Libertine who constantly makes stuff up, lies about what I said. This is the way to conduct a disagreement.
[quote name='chiz' date='26 December 2011 - 11:39 PM' timestamp='1324967951' post='1347580']
No it was never a valid concern because the problem never exhibited itself in the official 3D solution presented by DICE. I'm "vilifying" you because you've incorrectly interjected your flawed opinion that the game is unplayable because of this self-induced bug, when all it would've taken you is 5 minutes with the official 3D build to see it was never an issue.
I'll say this again....I ask the question because I don't have, have never had the game. All I have is a screen shot of the game before the patch, one frame of video which shows a serious bug. If I had the game, then why in the world would I ask whether or not the game was still flawed after the patch???? I would simply get the answer by testing and be 100% certain.
Nonsense, more than a few people took the time to correct you when you repeatedly insisted this was a problem in the BF3 thread, so obviously people 1) did bother to take notice 2) noticed it was not a problem and 3) took the time to inform you it was not a problem.
I honestly never saw these responses, thanks for posting them. To your credit, you back up what you said by posting proof, unlike that idiot Libertine who constantly makes stuff up, lies about what I said. This is the way to conduct a disagreement.
[quote name='roller11' date='27 December 2011 - 09:36 PM' timestamp='1325050619' post='1347987']
To your credit, you back up what you said by posting proof, unlike that idiot Libertine who constantly makes stuff up, lies about what I said.
[/quote]
You'd make Al Queda recruiters proud with your diligence in shoveling beliefs you don't know are true. You should probably check your medication, you've been pretty gabby lately.
[quote name='roller11' date='27 December 2011 - 09:36 PM' timestamp='1325050619' post='1347987']
To your credit, you back up what you said by posting proof, unlike that idiot Libertine who constantly makes stuff up, lies about what I said.
You'd make Al Queda recruiters proud with your diligence in shoveling beliefs you don't know are true. You should probably check your medication, you've been pretty gabby lately.
[quote name='roller11' date='27 December 2011 - 10:36 PM' timestamp='1325050619' post='1347987']
......unlike that idiot Libertine...... [/quote]
To call Libertine an 'idiot' is an insult to idiots. My apologies to any idiots who read my post.
[quote name='vidia' date='20 December 2011 - 01:06 PM' timestamp='1324404367' post='1344793']
- To the current users would you be disappointed if someone showed you the current technology, without you having any experience with it.. as if it was for the first time? Would you have been wow'ed or question the technology?[/quote]
I would not be disappointed. Gaming in 3D is light years ahead of movies in 3D. Movies in 3D are definitely a gimmick - a cool one, to be sure, one that can really make movies more interesting - but gaming in 3D is NOT a gimmick. It is an ENTIRELY new experience that brings detail and emergence to games that cannot be reproduced in any other way. In fact, gaming on low graphical settings in 3D is a BETTER experience then gaming on high graphical settings in 2D.
With 3D, your games will literally look like actual models/action figures/or manufactured representations of what use to be a group of pixels. And the fact that it's backwards compatible with your games means you can go back and relive gaming experiences in a whole new way.
[quote name='vidia' date='20 December 2011 - 01:06 PM' timestamp='1324404367' post='1344793']- Do you have to "accept" how its working?[/quote]
There's nothing to accept. It's rare for there to be problems large enough for you to notice, and when there are noticeable problems they don't take away from the effect most of the time.
[quote name='vidia' date='20 December 2011 - 01:06 PM' timestamp='1324404367' post='1344793']- Ive tried 3D on the samsung tvs and they look nice. how compared to a tv experience is this?[/quote]
TV/movies and video games are worlds apart. TV and movies are a gimmick - a cool one - but they're no where near as impressive as video games. That's the advantage of being able to render an entirely 3D modeled world in 3D.
[quote name='vidia' date='20 December 2011 - 01:06 PM' timestamp='1324404367' post='1344793']- whats the one thing that you could change right now.. if you could.. a feature? a setting? something that bugs you?[/quote]
If it had to be just one thing, stability for new releases. Lately I've been having a lot of driver crashes because I'm running beta drivers in order to get the best performance in new releases. Given time, stable driver versions will come out that will mitigate this problem.
If there was more than one thing I would change: allowing better user support for profiles (which goes along with the point above), and less ghosting (but some ghosting is inevitable, especially since my monitor is particularly bright).
[quote name='vidia' date='20 December 2011 - 01:06 PM' timestamp='1324404367' post='1344793']- if you like the technology, how do you like your new gaming experience?[/quote]
I rarely play anything in 2D anymore and when I do I know it. It's just not the same, it's not nearly as immersive.
[quote name='vidia' date='20 December 2011 - 01:06 PM' timestamp='1324404367' post='1344793']
- To the current users would you be disappointed if someone showed you the current technology, without you having any experience with it.. as if it was for the first time? Would you have been wow'ed or question the technology?
I would not be disappointed. Gaming in 3D is light years ahead of movies in 3D. Movies in 3D are definitely a gimmick - a cool one, to be sure, one that can really make movies more interesting - but gaming in 3D is NOT a gimmick. It is an ENTIRELY new experience that brings detail and emergence to games that cannot be reproduced in any other way. In fact, gaming on low graphical settings in 3D is a BETTER experience then gaming on high graphical settings in 2D.
With 3D, your games will literally look like actual models/action figures/or manufactured representations of what use to be a group of pixels. And the fact that it's backwards compatible with your games means you can go back and relive gaming experiences in a whole new way.
[quote name='vidia' date='20 December 2011 - 01:06 PM' timestamp='1324404367' post='1344793']- Do you have to "accept" how its working?
There's nothing to accept. It's rare for there to be problems large enough for you to notice, and when there are noticeable problems they don't take away from the effect most of the time.
[quote name='vidia' date='20 December 2011 - 01:06 PM' timestamp='1324404367' post='1344793']- Ive tried 3D on the samsung tvs and they look nice. how compared to a tv experience is this?
TV/movies and video games are worlds apart. TV and movies are a gimmick - a cool one - but they're no where near as impressive as video games. That's the advantage of being able to render an entirely 3D modeled world in 3D.
[quote name='vidia' date='20 December 2011 - 01:06 PM' timestamp='1324404367' post='1344793']- whats the one thing that you could change right now.. if you could.. a feature? a setting? something that bugs you?
If it had to be just one thing, stability for new releases. Lately I've been having a lot of driver crashes because I'm running beta drivers in order to get the best performance in new releases. Given time, stable driver versions will come out that will mitigate this problem.
If there was more than one thing I would change: allowing better user support for profiles (which goes along with the point above), and less ghosting (but some ghosting is inevitable, especially since my monitor is particularly bright).
[quote name='vidia' date='20 December 2011 - 01:06 PM' timestamp='1324404367' post='1344793']- if you like the technology, how do you like your new gaming experience?
I rarely play anything in 2D anymore and when I do I know it. It's just not the same, it's not nearly as immersive.
I guess you somehow missed the screen shot I posted, check it out.
[/quote]
Yes I saw that screenshot, its the same screenshot you've been posting for over a month using an unofficial workaround before the official 3D patch from DICE. Patch your game, and use the native implementation, then see if you still have this problem because as I said, I have not seen anyone using the in-game native implementation and complaining about this problem.
http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=213426&view=findpost&p=1327080
I guess you somehow missed the screen shot I posted, check it out.
Yes I saw that screenshot, its the same screenshot you've been posting for over a month using an unofficial workaround before the official 3D patch from DICE. Patch your game, and use the native implementation, then see if you still have this problem because as I said, I have not seen anyone using the in-game native implementation and complaining about this problem.
http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=213426&view=findpost&p=1327080
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I have not seen anyone using the in-game native implementation and complaining about this problem.
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That means absolutely nothing, no complaints doesn't mean no problem.
I haven't seen any SS that shows the problem has been fixed, so my concern is a valid one.
I have not seen anyone using the in-game native implementation and complaining about this problem.
That means absolutely nothing, no complaints doesn't mean no problem.
I haven't seen any SS that shows the problem has been fixed, so my concern is a valid one.
That means absolutely nothing, no complaints doesn't mean no problem.
I haven't seen any SS that shows the problem has been fixed, so my concern is a valid one.
[/quote]
No its not valid and never has been a valid concern with the [b]official 3D patch [/b]from DICE. You used an unofficial workaround that was most likely disabled in the launch build for the very same problems you captured in your screenshot.
If it were a problem, I'm sure myself and anyone else who played through the first 5 minutes of the campaign would have noticed it, but not a single person complained about that specific issue. Plenty of other complaints about performance, but nothing about shadows or lighting being incorrectly rendered.
[attachment=30612:bf315_50.jps]
That means absolutely nothing, no complaints doesn't mean no problem.
I haven't seen any SS that shows the problem has been fixed, so my concern is a valid one.
No its not valid and never has been a valid concern with the official 3D patch from DICE. You used an unofficial workaround that was most likely disabled in the launch build for the very same problems you captured in your screenshot.
If it were a problem, I'm sure myself and anyone else who played through the first 5 minutes of the campaign would have noticed it, but not a single person complained about that specific issue. Plenty of other complaints about performance, but nothing about shadows or lighting being incorrectly rendered.
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never has been a valid concern[/quote]
Yes it is! It became a valid concern when a serious flaw was verified. More to the point, when the problem was proven to exist, nobody but me was complaining. For you to vilify me for asking a perfectly valid question is just plain wrong.
[quote]If it were a problem, I'm sure myself and anyone else who played through the first 5 minutes of the campaign would have noticed it, but not a single person complained about that specific issue.[/quote]
Not noticing and not going to the trouble of complaining are two different things. Ironically, your own observation only serves to underscore the flaw in your arguement by pointing out the fact that people played the game when it had the problem, but nobody complained, disproving your "lack of proof of guilt is proof of innocence" proposition.
As to the patch, DICE never claimed that it fixed the problem cited. Even if it did, how many times have we seen a patch not fix a problem?
This is no longer about whether or not the game has a lighting problem, your pic proves it does not. This is about whether or not a person is guilty of wrong doing for asking a perfectly reasonable question. Nobody wants to buy a game only to find out it is unsatisfactory due to a serious bug, that's why we have forums. Nothing wrong with that.
never has been a valid concern
Yes it is! It became a valid concern when a serious flaw was verified. More to the point, when the problem was proven to exist, nobody but me was complaining. For you to vilify me for asking a perfectly valid question is just plain wrong.
Not noticing and not going to the trouble of complaining are two different things. Ironically, your own observation only serves to underscore the flaw in your arguement by pointing out the fact that people played the game when it had the problem, but nobody complained, disproving your "lack of proof of guilt is proof of innocence" proposition.
As to the patch, DICE never claimed that it fixed the problem cited. Even if it did, how many times have we seen a patch not fix a problem?
This is no longer about whether or not the game has a lighting problem, your pic proves it does not. This is about whether or not a person is guilty of wrong doing for asking a perfectly reasonable question. Nobody wants to buy a game only to find out it is unsatisfactory due to a serious bug, that's why we have forums. Nothing wrong with that.
Yes it is! It became a valid concern when a serious flaw was verified. More to the point, when the problem was proven to exist, nobody but me was complaining. For you to vilify me for asking a perfectly valid question is just plain wrong.[/quote]
No it was never a valid concern because the problem never exhibited itself in the official 3D solution presented by DICE. I'm "vilifying" you because you've incorrectly interjected your flawed opinion that the game is unplayable because of this self-induced bug, when all it would've taken you is 5 minutes with the official 3D build to see it was never an issue.
[quote name='roller11' date='27 December 2011 - 01:20 AM' timestamp='1324966825' post='1347578']Not noticing and not going to the trouble of complaining are two different things. Ironically, your own observation only serves to underscore the flaw in your arguement by pointing out the fact that people played the game when it had the problem, but nobody complained, disproving your "lack of proof of guilt is proof of innocence" proposition.
As to the patch, DICE never claimed that it fixed the problem cited. Even if it did, how many times have we seen a patch not fix a problem?
This is no longer about whether or not the game has a lighting problem, your pic proves it does not. This is about whether or not a person is guilty of wrong doing for asking a perfectly reasonable question. Nobody wants to buy a game only to find out it is unsatisfactory due to a serious bug, that's why we have forums. Nothing wrong with that.
[/quote]
Nonsense, more than a few people took the time to correct you when you repeatedly insisted this was a problem in the BF3 thread, so obviously people 1) did bother to take notice 2) noticed it was not a problem and 3) took the time to inform you it was not a problem.
Starting here: http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=213426&view=findpost&p=1337637
[quote name='roller11' date='04 December 2011 - 07:12 PM' timestamp='1323043933' post='1337637']
None of these issues matter unless the over riding bug shown in this attachment is fixed.
[/quote]
[quote name='photios' date='05 December 2011 - 10:36 AM' timestamp='1323099382' post='1337882']
roller11,
Wasn't that screenshot taken using the hack to enable 3D before DICE implemented 3D in their released version of Battlefield 3?
photios
[/quote]
[quote name='Arioch' date='05 December 2011 - 10:40 AM' timestamp='1323099601' post='1337883']
I'm not seeing any glitches like that since the 3D patch got released.
[/quote]
[quote name='ds445' date='05 December 2011 - 03:16 PM' timestamp='1323116201' post='1338012']
Neither am I - I suppose you're running an old pre-patch version?
[/quote]
[quote name='Cheezeman' date='05 December 2011 - 03:34 PM' timestamp='1323117293' post='1338018']
Probably a pirated version.
[/quote]
Of course, all it would've taken you was 5 minutes on the very first campaign mission to verify for yourself the lighting/shadowing problem in your picture was never an issue in the official 3D release build from DICE. End of story.
Yes it is! It became a valid concern when a serious flaw was verified. More to the point, when the problem was proven to exist, nobody but me was complaining. For you to vilify me for asking a perfectly valid question is just plain wrong.
No it was never a valid concern because the problem never exhibited itself in the official 3D solution presented by DICE. I'm "vilifying" you because you've incorrectly interjected your flawed opinion that the game is unplayable because of this self-induced bug, when all it would've taken you is 5 minutes with the official 3D build to see it was never an issue.
[quote name='roller11' date='27 December 2011 - 01:20 AM' timestamp='1324966825' post='1347578']Not noticing and not going to the trouble of complaining are two different things. Ironically, your own observation only serves to underscore the flaw in your arguement by pointing out the fact that people played the game when it had the problem, but nobody complained, disproving your "lack of proof of guilt is proof of innocence" proposition.
As to the patch, DICE never claimed that it fixed the problem cited. Even if it did, how many times have we seen a patch not fix a problem?
This is no longer about whether or not the game has a lighting problem, your pic proves it does not. This is about whether or not a person is guilty of wrong doing for asking a perfectly reasonable question. Nobody wants to buy a game only to find out it is unsatisfactory due to a serious bug, that's why we have forums. Nothing wrong with that.
Nonsense, more than a few people took the time to correct you when you repeatedly insisted this was a problem in the BF3 thread, so obviously people 1) did bother to take notice 2) noticed it was not a problem and 3) took the time to inform you it was not a problem.
Starting here: http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=213426&view=findpost&p=1337637
[quote name='roller11' date='04 December 2011 - 07:12 PM' timestamp='1323043933' post='1337637']
None of these issues matter unless the over riding bug shown in this attachment is fixed.
[quote name='photios' date='05 December 2011 - 10:36 AM' timestamp='1323099382' post='1337882']
roller11,
Wasn't that screenshot taken using the hack to enable 3D before DICE implemented 3D in their released version of Battlefield 3?
photios
[quote name='Arioch' date='05 December 2011 - 10:40 AM' timestamp='1323099601' post='1337883']
I'm not seeing any glitches like that since the 3D patch got released.
[quote name='ds445' date='05 December 2011 - 03:16 PM' timestamp='1323116201' post='1338012']
Neither am I - I suppose you're running an old pre-patch version?
[quote name='Cheezeman' date='05 December 2011 - 03:34 PM' timestamp='1323117293' post='1338018']
Probably a pirated version.
Of course, all it would've taken you was 5 minutes on the very first campaign mission to verify for yourself the lighting/shadowing problem in your picture was never an issue in the official 3D release build from DICE. End of story.
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No it was never a valid concern because the problem never exhibited itself in the official 3D solution presented by DICE. I'm "vilifying" you because you've incorrectly interjected your flawed opinion that the game is unplayable because of this self-induced bug, when all it would've taken you is 5 minutes with the official 3D build to see it was never an issue.[/quote]
I'll say this again....I ask the question because I don't have, have never had the game. All I have is a screen shot of the game before the patch, one frame of video which shows a serious bug. If I had the game, then why in the world would I ask whether or not the game was still flawed after the patch???? I would simply get the answer by testing and be 100% certain.
[quote]Nonsense, more than a few people took the time to correct you when you repeatedly insisted this was a problem in the BF3 thread, so obviously people 1) did bother to take notice 2) noticed it was not a problem and 3) took the time to inform you it was not a problem.[/quote]
I honestly never saw these responses, thanks for posting them. To your credit, you back up what you said by posting proof, unlike that idiot Libertine who constantly makes stuff up, lies about what I said. This is the way to conduct a disagreement.
No it was never a valid concern because the problem never exhibited itself in the official 3D solution presented by DICE. I'm "vilifying" you because you've incorrectly interjected your flawed opinion that the game is unplayable because of this self-induced bug, when all it would've taken you is 5 minutes with the official 3D build to see it was never an issue.
I'll say this again....I ask the question because I don't have, have never had the game. All I have is a screen shot of the game before the patch, one frame of video which shows a serious bug. If I had the game, then why in the world would I ask whether or not the game was still flawed after the patch???? I would simply get the answer by testing and be 100% certain.
I honestly never saw these responses, thanks for posting them. To your credit, you back up what you said by posting proof, unlike that idiot Libertine who constantly makes stuff up, lies about what I said. This is the way to conduct a disagreement.
To your credit, you back up what you said by posting proof, unlike that idiot Libertine who constantly makes stuff up, lies about what I said.
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You'd make Al Queda recruiters proud with your diligence in shoveling beliefs you don't know are true. You should probably check your medication, you've been pretty gabby lately.
To your credit, you back up what you said by posting proof, unlike that idiot Libertine who constantly makes stuff up, lies about what I said.
You'd make Al Queda recruiters proud with your diligence in shoveling beliefs you don't know are true. You should probably check your medication, you've been pretty gabby lately.
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......unlike that idiot Libertine...... [/quote]
To call Libertine an 'idiot' is an insult to idiots. My apologies to any idiots who read my post.
......unlike that idiot Libertine......
To call Libertine an 'idiot' is an insult to idiots. My apologies to any idiots who read my post.
- To the current users would you be disappointed if someone showed you the current technology, without you having any experience with it.. as if it was for the first time? Would you have been wow'ed or question the technology?[/quote]
I would not be disappointed. Gaming in 3D is light years ahead of movies in 3D. Movies in 3D are definitely a gimmick - a cool one, to be sure, one that can really make movies more interesting - but gaming in 3D is NOT a gimmick. It is an ENTIRELY new experience that brings detail and emergence to games that cannot be reproduced in any other way. In fact, gaming on low graphical settings in 3D is a BETTER experience then gaming on high graphical settings in 2D.
With 3D, your games will literally look like actual models/action figures/or manufactured representations of what use to be a group of pixels. And the fact that it's backwards compatible with your games means you can go back and relive gaming experiences in a whole new way.
[quote name='vidia' date='20 December 2011 - 01:06 PM' timestamp='1324404367' post='1344793']- Do you have to "accept" how its working?[/quote]
There's nothing to accept. It's rare for there to be problems large enough for you to notice, and when there are noticeable problems they don't take away from the effect most of the time.
[quote name='vidia' date='20 December 2011 - 01:06 PM' timestamp='1324404367' post='1344793']- Ive tried 3D on the samsung tvs and they look nice. how compared to a tv experience is this?[/quote]
TV/movies and video games are worlds apart. TV and movies are a gimmick - a cool one - but they're no where near as impressive as video games. That's the advantage of being able to render an entirely 3D modeled world in 3D.
[quote name='vidia' date='20 December 2011 - 01:06 PM' timestamp='1324404367' post='1344793']- whats the one thing that you could change right now.. if you could.. a feature? a setting? something that bugs you?[/quote]
If it had to be just one thing, stability for new releases. Lately I've been having a lot of driver crashes because I'm running beta drivers in order to get the best performance in new releases. Given time, stable driver versions will come out that will mitigate this problem.
If there was more than one thing I would change: allowing better user support for profiles (which goes along with the point above), and less ghosting (but some ghosting is inevitable, especially since my monitor is particularly bright).
[quote name='vidia' date='20 December 2011 - 01:06 PM' timestamp='1324404367' post='1344793']- if you like the technology, how do you like your new gaming experience?[/quote]
I rarely play anything in 2D anymore and when I do I know it. It's just not the same, it's not nearly as immersive.
- To the current users would you be disappointed if someone showed you the current technology, without you having any experience with it.. as if it was for the first time? Would you have been wow'ed or question the technology?
I would not be disappointed. Gaming in 3D is light years ahead of movies in 3D. Movies in 3D are definitely a gimmick - a cool one, to be sure, one that can really make movies more interesting - but gaming in 3D is NOT a gimmick. It is an ENTIRELY new experience that brings detail and emergence to games that cannot be reproduced in any other way. In fact, gaming on low graphical settings in 3D is a BETTER experience then gaming on high graphical settings in 2D.
With 3D, your games will literally look like actual models/action figures/or manufactured representations of what use to be a group of pixels. And the fact that it's backwards compatible with your games means you can go back and relive gaming experiences in a whole new way.
[quote name='vidia' date='20 December 2011 - 01:06 PM' timestamp='1324404367' post='1344793']- Do you have to "accept" how its working?
There's nothing to accept. It's rare for there to be problems large enough for you to notice, and when there are noticeable problems they don't take away from the effect most of the time.
[quote name='vidia' date='20 December 2011 - 01:06 PM' timestamp='1324404367' post='1344793']- Ive tried 3D on the samsung tvs and they look nice. how compared to a tv experience is this?
TV/movies and video games are worlds apart. TV and movies are a gimmick - a cool one - but they're no where near as impressive as video games. That's the advantage of being able to render an entirely 3D modeled world in 3D.
[quote name='vidia' date='20 December 2011 - 01:06 PM' timestamp='1324404367' post='1344793']- whats the one thing that you could change right now.. if you could.. a feature? a setting? something that bugs you?
If it had to be just one thing, stability for new releases. Lately I've been having a lot of driver crashes because I'm running beta drivers in order to get the best performance in new releases. Given time, stable driver versions will come out that will mitigate this problem.
If there was more than one thing I would change: allowing better user support for profiles (which goes along with the point above), and less ghosting (but some ghosting is inevitable, especially since my monitor is particularly bright).
[quote name='vidia' date='20 December 2011 - 01:06 PM' timestamp='1324404367' post='1344793']- if you like the technology, how do you like your new gaming experience?
I rarely play anything in 2D anymore and when I do I know it. It's just not the same, it's not nearly as immersive.