Is anyone using a glass bead projector screen? Just wondered if you have any thoughts on the experience compared to a matt white one or other coating.
I have a fixed frame home made projector screen which I recently repainted and it's pretty bright, but have always wondered if I'd be better off with a larger pull down glass bead screen.
Any thoughts welcome!
Is anyone using a glass bead projector screen? Just wondered if you have any thoughts on the experience compared to a matt white one or other coating.
I have a fixed frame home made projector screen which I recently repainted and it's pretty bright, but have always wondered if I'd be better off with a larger pull down glass bead screen.
Any thoughts welcome!
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Whats the lumens of projector,long throw or short?,projected screen size, the gain on current screen, the gain on planned screen, dlp glasses or nvida?
I dont have experience with glass bead tbh. I dont think its very popular as far as 3d screens though I could of sworn they are very high gain(bright).
Whats the lumens of projector,long throw or short?,projected screen size, the gain on current screen, the gain on planned screen, dlp glasses or nvida?
I dont have experience with glass bead tbh. I dont think its very popular as far as 3d screens though I could of sworn they are very high gain(bright).
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[quote name='eqzitara' date='26 June 2012 - 08:07 PM' timestamp='1340737651' post='1426852']
Whats the lumens of projector,long throw or short?,projected screen size, the gain on current screen, the gain on planned screen, dlp glasses or nvida?
I dont have experience with glass bead tbh. I dont think its very popular as far as 3d screens though I could of sworn they are very high gain(bright).
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Well... According to specs, 3200 lumens eco~ 2300, long throw, current screen is ~90", gain ~ 1.1, nvidia glasses.
Most glass bead screens seem to be about a gain of 2-2.5, but I'm really after subjective opinions as to whether the potential hot-spotting and grain in the material detracts too much from the experience. By other accounts I've read, a high gain (glass bead) screen really does cause the colours to 'pop' and makes the image very vivid.
[quote name='eqzitara' date='26 June 2012 - 08:07 PM' timestamp='1340737651' post='1426852']
Whats the lumens of projector,long throw or short?,projected screen size, the gain on current screen, the gain on planned screen, dlp glasses or nvida?
I dont have experience with glass bead tbh. I dont think its very popular as far as 3d screens though I could of sworn they are very high gain(bright).
Well... According to specs, 3200 lumens eco~ 2300, long throw, current screen is ~90", gain ~ 1.1, nvidia glasses.
Most glass bead screens seem to be about a gain of 2-2.5, but I'm really after subjective opinions as to whether the potential hot-spotting and grain in the material detracts too much from the experience. By other accounts I've read, a high gain (glass bead) screen really does cause the colours to 'pop' and makes the image very vivid.
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Well 1.1-> 2.5 wont be that bad with 3d I believe since you have a long throw. But keep in mind it will get even brighter. Though in my honest opinion id ask on avsforum, they are much more knowledgeable. I do know that if you get a cheap glass bead screen it makes the image look grainy.
If it works out for you let me know, Id be interested.
Well 1.1-> 2.5 wont be that bad with 3d I believe since you have a long throw. But keep in mind it will get even brighter. Though in my honest opinion id ask on avsforum, they are much more knowledgeable. I do know that if you get a cheap glass bead screen it makes the image look grainy.
If it works out for you let me know, Id be interested.
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I had a 1.0 gain screen when I first got my 3D projector, Acer H5360BD. I felt the 3D was a bit dim, so I went ahead and got a 2.6 gain glass bead screen. And wow, it was a huge improvement! I don't notice any grain or hot spotting with my particular screen, which is a brand only available in Japan. I do know that the Dalite High Power 2.4 gain screens are very well regarded, no grain or hot spotting, and the pulldown versions are reasonably priced (think my screen is basically the same material).
Two things I'd suggest to keep in mind:
1. If you didn't already know, these screens work by reflecting the light back to the source. The more aligned your eyes are are with the path between your projector and the screen, the brighter it will be. The less aligned, the less bright. In my case, my H5360BD is shelf mounted about one foot behind and two feet above my head, which I estimate gives me about 2.2 gain. I also have a Mitsubishi HC3800 for 2D, which is mounted higher up because it throws the image at a steeper angle, and I estimate I get about 1.5, which was still a very nice improvement.
2. If you use the same projector for a lot of 2D as well, you [i]might[/i] find it to be too bright in a darkened room. The solution would then be to turn on some lights, view slightly off angle, or ideally simply use your current fixed frame 1.0 gain screen for 2D. On the other hand, you might like the bright 2D image.
That said, I highly recommend a high gain screen for 3D. I consider it an essential component. I no longer associate 3D with dimness.
I had a 1.0 gain screen when I first got my 3D projector, Acer H5360BD. I felt the 3D was a bit dim, so I went ahead and got a 2.6 gain glass bead screen. And wow, it was a huge improvement! I don't notice any grain or hot spotting with my particular screen, which is a brand only available in Japan. I do know that the Dalite High Power 2.4 gain screens are very well regarded, no grain or hot spotting, and the pulldown versions are reasonably priced (think my screen is basically the same material).
Two things I'd suggest to keep in mind:
1. If you didn't already know, these screens work by reflecting the light back to the source. The more aligned your eyes are are with the path between your projector and the screen, the brighter it will be. The less aligned, the less bright. In my case, my H5360BD is shelf mounted about one foot behind and two feet above my head, which I estimate gives me about 2.2 gain. I also have a Mitsubishi HC3800 for 2D, which is mounted higher up because it throws the image at a steeper angle, and I estimate I get about 1.5, which was still a very nice improvement.
2. If you use the same projector for a lot of 2D as well, you might find it to be too bright in a darkened room. The solution would then be to turn on some lights, view slightly off angle, or ideally simply use your current fixed frame 1.0 gain screen for 2D. On the other hand, you might like the bright 2D image.
That said, I highly recommend a high gain screen for 3D. I consider it an essential component. I no longer associate 3D with dimness.
You definetly know alot more then me airion but my only concern is he says 1.1 is bright. Im not sure of his screen size. If hes playing on like a 40" it will be like a flare especially is hes already on eco. Going all the way up to 2.6 on a non-dlp link might be too much, no?
I also use a dalight high powered. The gain is very high I believe it claims 3.0 but I heard people say its only like 2.5.
You definetly know alot more then me airion but my only concern is he says 1.1 is bright. Im not sure of his screen size. If hes playing on like a 40" it will be like a flare especially is hes already on eco. Going all the way up to 2.6 on a non-dlp link might be too much, no?
I also use a dalight high powered. The gain is very high I believe it claims 3.0 but I heard people say its only like 2.5.
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Well, rustyk says it's "pretty" bright, which could mean very bright, or could mean merely acceptably bright. He did say a 90" screen though. That's actually the same size as mine, but certainly his projector is rated higher lumens than my H5360BD (2500, though the real value in 3D mode for both projectors would be much lower, about 650 for the Acer).
Perhaps the best test for brightness is, how do you like the brightness of the image you have now without the glasses on rustyk? That's roughly the brightness you'd have with a high gain screen and the glasses on.
Well, rustyk says it's "pretty" bright, which could mean very bright, or could mean merely acceptably bright. He did say a 90" screen though. That's actually the same size as mine, but certainly his projector is rated higher lumens than my H5360BD (2500, though the real value in 3D mode for both projectors would be much lower, about 650 for the Acer).
Perhaps the best test for brightness is, how do you like the brightness of the image you have now without the glasses on rustyk? That's roughly the brightness you'd have with a high gain screen and the glasses on.
[quote name='Airion' date='27 June 2012 - 03:03 AM' timestamp='1340762620' post='1426995']
Well, rustyk says it's "pretty" bright, which could mean very bright, or could mean merely acceptably bright. He did say a 90" screen though. That's actually the same size as mine, but certainly his projector is rated higher lumens than my H5360BD (2500, though the real value in 3D mode for both projectors would be much lower, about 650 for the Acer).
Perhaps the best test for brightness is, how do you like the brightness of the image you have now without the glasses on rustyk? That's roughly the brightness you'd have with a high gain screen and the glasses on.
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Yes, that's the problem with subjective opinions. I mean that it's acceptable. A lot of people complain about dim images, but I always found that once my eyes have adjusted to the dark room, it looked pretty good. However, before I painted the screen I found some games difficult to play because the image was relatively dim, so it was hard to read smaller things like inventory items if playing an RGP.
I like the idea of your brightness test, that's a good way of putting it. I'll have a think.
[quote name='Airion' date='27 June 2012 - 03:03 AM' timestamp='1340762620' post='1426995']
Well, rustyk says it's "pretty" bright, which could mean very bright, or could mean merely acceptably bright. He did say a 90" screen though. That's actually the same size as mine, but certainly his projector is rated higher lumens than my H5360BD (2500, though the real value in 3D mode for both projectors would be much lower, about 650 for the Acer).
Perhaps the best test for brightness is, how do you like the brightness of the image you have now without the glasses on rustyk? That's roughly the brightness you'd have with a high gain screen and the glasses on.
Yes, that's the problem with subjective opinions. I mean that it's acceptable. A lot of people complain about dim images, but I always found that once my eyes have adjusted to the dark room, it looked pretty good. However, before I painted the screen I found some games difficult to play because the image was relatively dim, so it was hard to read smaller things like inventory items if playing an RGP.
I like the idea of your brightness test, that's a good way of putting it. I'll have a think.
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I would like to know if there is any kind of paint prepared just to cover a wall and have a great proyection. I have ACER H5360 and I proyect it usually on a white wall (the room is all white). I can not install a screen in this place, I am only asking for the paint. It would be great if the paint were also white, to fit better with the color of the room.
I would like to know if there is any kind of paint prepared just to cover a wall and have a great proyection. I have ACER H5360 and I proyect it usually on a white wall (the room is all white). I can not install a screen in this place, I am only asking for the paint. It would be great if the paint were also white, to fit better with the color of the room.
There's plenty of information on the [url="http://www.avsforum.com/f/110/diy-screen-section"]DIY Screens[/url] section on AVS forum, with all kinds of intimidating mixes. I think some of them can give you slightly higher gain, though in my opinion a white wall is a pretty darn good screen as is.
Actually, if you wanted to improve the image by painting, your best bet would be to paint every other wall a darker color. With a white room, light from the image on the screen bounces off the walls and back onto the screen, reducing your contrast. On the other hand, if the reason you can't install a screen is for room aesthetic reasons, then having one white and three brown walls isn't an option either. /pinch.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':pinch:' />
There's plenty of information on the DIY Screens section on AVS forum, with all kinds of intimidating mixes. I think some of them can give you slightly higher gain, though in my opinion a white wall is a pretty darn good screen as is.
Actually, if you wanted to improve the image by painting, your best bet would be to paint every other wall a darker color. With a white room, light from the image on the screen bounces off the walls and back onto the screen, reducing your contrast. On the other hand, if the reason you can't install a screen is for room aesthetic reasons, then having one white and three brown walls isn't an option either. /pinch.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':pinch:' />
I have a fixed frame home made projector screen which I recently repainted and it's pretty bright, but have always wondered if I'd be better off with a larger pull down glass bead screen.
Any thoughts welcome!
I have a fixed frame home made projector screen which I recently repainted and it's pretty bright, but have always wondered if I'd be better off with a larger pull down glass bead screen.
Any thoughts welcome!
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I dont have experience with glass bead tbh. I dont think its very popular as far as 3d screens though I could of sworn they are very high gain(bright).
I dont have experience with glass bead tbh. I dont think its very popular as far as 3d screens though I could of sworn they are very high gain(bright).
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Whats the lumens of projector,long throw or short?,projected screen size, the gain on current screen, the gain on planned screen, dlp glasses or nvida?
I dont have experience with glass bead tbh. I dont think its very popular as far as 3d screens though I could of sworn they are very high gain(bright).
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Well... According to specs, 3200 lumens eco~ 2300, long throw, current screen is ~90", gain ~ 1.1, nvidia glasses.
Most glass bead screens seem to be about a gain of 2-2.5, but I'm really after subjective opinions as to whether the potential hot-spotting and grain in the material detracts too much from the experience. By other accounts I've read, a high gain (glass bead) screen really does cause the colours to 'pop' and makes the image very vivid.
Whats the lumens of projector,long throw or short?,projected screen size, the gain on current screen, the gain on planned screen, dlp glasses or nvida?
I dont have experience with glass bead tbh. I dont think its very popular as far as 3d screens though I could of sworn they are very high gain(bright).
Well... According to specs, 3200 lumens eco~ 2300, long throw, current screen is ~90", gain ~ 1.1, nvidia glasses.
Most glass bead screens seem to be about a gain of 2-2.5, but I'm really after subjective opinions as to whether the potential hot-spotting and grain in the material detracts too much from the experience. By other accounts I've read, a high gain (glass bead) screen really does cause the colours to 'pop' and makes the image very vivid.
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If it works out for you let me know, Id be interested.
If it works out for you let me know, Id be interested.
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Two things I'd suggest to keep in mind:
1. If you didn't already know, these screens work by reflecting the light back to the source. The more aligned your eyes are are with the path between your projector and the screen, the brighter it will be. The less aligned, the less bright. In my case, my H5360BD is shelf mounted about one foot behind and two feet above my head, which I estimate gives me about 2.2 gain. I also have a Mitsubishi HC3800 for 2D, which is mounted higher up because it throws the image at a steeper angle, and I estimate I get about 1.5, which was still a very nice improvement.
2. If you use the same projector for a lot of 2D as well, you [i]might[/i] find it to be too bright in a darkened room. The solution would then be to turn on some lights, view slightly off angle, or ideally simply use your current fixed frame 1.0 gain screen for 2D. On the other hand, you might like the bright 2D image.
That said, I highly recommend a high gain screen for 3D. I consider it an essential component. I no longer associate 3D with dimness.
Two things I'd suggest to keep in mind:
1. If you didn't already know, these screens work by reflecting the light back to the source. The more aligned your eyes are are with the path between your projector and the screen, the brighter it will be. The less aligned, the less bright. In my case, my H5360BD is shelf mounted about one foot behind and two feet above my head, which I estimate gives me about 2.2 gain. I also have a Mitsubishi HC3800 for 2D, which is mounted higher up because it throws the image at a steeper angle, and I estimate I get about 1.5, which was still a very nice improvement.
2. If you use the same projector for a lot of 2D as well, you might find it to be too bright in a darkened room. The solution would then be to turn on some lights, view slightly off angle, or ideally simply use your current fixed frame 1.0 gain screen for 2D. On the other hand, you might like the bright 2D image.
That said, I highly recommend a high gain screen for 3D. I consider it an essential component. I no longer associate 3D with dimness.
I also use a dalight high powered. The gain is very high I believe it claims 3.0 but I heard people say its only like 2.5.
I also use a dalight high powered. The gain is very high I believe it claims 3.0 but I heard people say its only like 2.5.
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Perhaps the best test for brightness is, how do you like the brightness of the image you have now without the glasses on rustyk? That's roughly the brightness you'd have with a high gain screen and the glasses on.
Perhaps the best test for brightness is, how do you like the brightness of the image you have now without the glasses on rustyk? That's roughly the brightness you'd have with a high gain screen and the glasses on.
Well, rustyk says it's "pretty" bright, which could mean very bright, or could mean merely acceptably bright. He did say a 90" screen though. That's actually the same size as mine, but certainly his projector is rated higher lumens than my H5360BD (2500, though the real value in 3D mode for both projectors would be much lower, about 650 for the Acer).
Perhaps the best test for brightness is, how do you like the brightness of the image you have now without the glasses on rustyk? That's roughly the brightness you'd have with a high gain screen and the glasses on.
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Yes, that's the problem with subjective opinions. I mean that it's acceptable. A lot of people complain about dim images, but I always found that once my eyes have adjusted to the dark room, it looked pretty good. However, before I painted the screen I found some games difficult to play because the image was relatively dim, so it was hard to read smaller things like inventory items if playing an RGP.
I like the idea of your brightness test, that's a good way of putting it. I'll have a think.
Well, rustyk says it's "pretty" bright, which could mean very bright, or could mean merely acceptably bright. He did say a 90" screen though. That's actually the same size as mine, but certainly his projector is rated higher lumens than my H5360BD (2500, though the real value in 3D mode for both projectors would be much lower, about 650 for the Acer).
Perhaps the best test for brightness is, how do you like the brightness of the image you have now without the glasses on rustyk? That's roughly the brightness you'd have with a high gain screen and the glasses on.
Yes, that's the problem with subjective opinions. I mean that it's acceptable. A lot of people complain about dim images, but I always found that once my eyes have adjusted to the dark room, it looked pretty good. However, before I painted the screen I found some games difficult to play because the image was relatively dim, so it was hard to read smaller things like inventory items if playing an RGP.
I like the idea of your brightness test, that's a good way of putting it. I'll have a think.
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Actually, if you wanted to improve the image by painting, your best bet would be to paint every other wall a darker color. With a white room, light from the image on the screen bounces off the walls and back onto the screen, reducing your contrast. On the other hand, if the reason you can't install a screen is for room aesthetic reasons, then having one white and three brown walls isn't an option either.
Actually, if you wanted to improve the image by painting, your best bet would be to paint every other wall a darker color. With a white room, light from the image on the screen bounces off the walls and back onto the screen, reducing your contrast. On the other hand, if the reason you can't install a screen is for room aesthetic reasons, then having one white and three brown walls isn't an option either.