3D BLU-RAY YET MORE COST? *sad face*
So i have my 3d glasses i have my 3d screen i have my 2 gtx480's and i have my cloudy with a chance of meatballs comming in the mail. Now i look at what i need to play 3D blueray in my Blueray drive on my PC. The only way to do this.. is to pay some more $$ for some sofwear to do this.. I mean look i love all this 3d stuff But right now im tierd of paying for things. I just want now to play my 3D blue-ray disk in my PC for no exstra cost is there any possible way of doing this.! Isant there anything from nvida to do this?
I have a feeling that maybe nvidia should help us 3d vision users out here. I wish nvidias 3d vision player would support 3D-blueray and i think i have a right to exspect it, as a long loving loyal nvidia customer.
Im not asking for alot here im jsut asking for 3D blu-ray support please! Dont make me pay more.. Or that 3D tv setup is looking more temping by the day.
So i have my 3d glasses i have my 3d screen i have my 2 gtx480's and i have my cloudy with a chance of meatballs comming in the mail. Now i look at what i need to play 3D blueray in my Blueray drive on my PC. The only way to do this.. is to pay some more $$ for some sofwear to do this.. I mean look i love all this 3d stuff But right now im tierd of paying for things. I just want now to play my 3D blue-ray disk in my PC for no exstra cost is there any possible way of doing this.! Isant there anything from nvida to do this?

I have a feeling that maybe nvidia should help us 3d vision users out here. I wish nvidias 3d vision player would support 3D-blueray and i think i have a right to exspect it, as a long loving loyal nvidia customer.

Im not asking for alot here im jsut asking for 3D blu-ray support please! Dont make me pay more.. Or that 3D tv setup is looking more temping by the day.

2x gtx480 sli
gigabyte ex58-UD5
i7 920 @4.2ghz on air
6gb ocz reaper 1866mhz
2x Vertex 2 50gb SSD's raid 0
1500w Xigmatek Psu
Acer GD24HQ 24" 1080p 120hz 3D.
3D Vision

#1
Posted 07/02/2010 10:28 PM   
What? To play any Blu-ray movie you have to pay for the software. Arcsoft is just charging $20 extra. Use '4THJULY' at checkout for 35% off Arcsoft TMT.
What? To play any Blu-ray movie you have to pay for the software. Arcsoft is just charging $20 extra. Use '4THJULY' at checkout for 35% off Arcsoft TMT.

#2
Posted 07/02/2010 10:49 PM   
[quote name='almostinsane' post='1081866' date='Jul 2 2010, 11:49 PM']What? To play any Blu-ray movie you have to pay for the software. Arcsoft is just charging $20 extra. Use '4THJULY' at checkout for 35% off Arcsoft TMT.[/quote]
When i got my blu-ray drive i got power dvd for free.. Wich yes plays blu-rays.
[quote name='almostinsane' post='1081866' date='Jul 2 2010, 11:49 PM']What? To play any Blu-ray movie you have to pay for the software. Arcsoft is just charging $20 extra. Use '4THJULY' at checkout for 35% off Arcsoft TMT.

When i got my blu-ray drive i got power dvd for free.. Wich yes plays blu-rays.

2x gtx480 sli
gigabyte ex58-UD5
i7 920 @4.2ghz on air
6gb ocz reaper 1866mhz
2x Vertex 2 50gb SSD's raid 0
1500w Xigmatek Psu
Acer GD24HQ 24" 1080p 120hz 3D.
3D Vision

#3
Posted 07/02/2010 10:53 PM   
[quote name='Stevewhitt' post='1081869' date='Jul 3 2010, 12:53 AM']When i got my blu-ray drive i got power dvd for free.. Wich yes plays blu-rays.[/quote]
No you didn't get it for free.
The BluRay drive price was inflated to include the disc and an oem license for PowerDVD

The exact same way Nvidia 3D vision drivers are not free, you pay it with the emitter.
[quote name='Stevewhitt' post='1081869' date='Jul 3 2010, 12:53 AM']When i got my blu-ray drive i got power dvd for free.. Wich yes plays blu-rays.

No you didn't get it for free.

The BluRay drive price was inflated to include the disc and an oem license for PowerDVD



The exact same way Nvidia 3D vision drivers are not free, you pay it with the emitter.

Passive 3D forever
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XtremScreen Daylight 2.0
VNS Geobox501 signal converter

#4
Posted 07/02/2010 11:10 PM   
[quote name='BlackSharkfr' post='1081879' date='Jul 3 2010, 12:10 AM']No you didn't get it for free.
The BluRay drive price was inflated to include the disc and an oem license for PowerDVD

The exact same way Nvidia 3D vision drivers are not free, you pay it with the emitter.[/quote]
Oh come on. $50 to play 3d blu-ray thats allmsot as much as the drive cost. Dont try and defend this All im asking is for nvidia to support 3d-bluray so i dont have to pay more.. I dont think its unfair that i ask this at all.
[quote name='BlackSharkfr' post='1081879' date='Jul 3 2010, 12:10 AM']No you didn't get it for free.

The BluRay drive price was inflated to include the disc and an oem license for PowerDVD



The exact same way Nvidia 3D vision drivers are not free, you pay it with the emitter.

Oh come on. $50 to play 3d blu-ray thats allmsot as much as the drive cost. Dont try and defend this All im asking is for nvidia to support 3d-bluray so i dont have to pay more.. I dont think its unfair that i ask this at all.

2x gtx480 sli
gigabyte ex58-UD5
i7 920 @4.2ghz on air
6gb ocz reaper 1866mhz
2x Vertex 2 50gb SSD's raid 0
1500w Xigmatek Psu
Acer GD24HQ 24" 1080p 120hz 3D.
3D Vision

#5
Posted 07/02/2010 11:14 PM   
Supporting a brand new and heavily patent protected technology like BluRay 3D costs money for the licences, and the licence has to be paid for every product nvidia ships, even if the user does not use it.
This is why Nvidia has never offered free DVD, HD-DVD or BluRay support, it's just too expensive for a product consumers have already bought either with their computer or with the BluRay drive, so why would they start ?
Supporting a brand new and heavily patent protected technology like BluRay 3D costs money for the licences, and the licence has to be paid for every product nvidia ships, even if the user does not use it.

This is why Nvidia has never offered free DVD, HD-DVD or BluRay support, it's just too expensive for a product consumers have already bought either with their computer or with the BluRay drive, so why would they start ?

Passive 3D forever
110" DIY dual-projection system
2x Epson EH-TW3500 (1080p) + Linear Polarizers (SPAR)
XtremScreen Daylight 2.0
VNS Geobox501 signal converter

#6
Posted 07/02/2010 11:24 PM   
[quote name='Stevewhitt' post='1081881' date='Jul 2 2010, 04:14 PM']Oh come on. $50 to play 3d blu-ray thats allmsot as much as the drive cost. Dont try and defend this All im asking is for nvidia to support 3d-bluray so i dont have to pay more.. I dont think its unfair that i ask this at all.[/quote]

Well if you would have purchased a drive with Arcsoft included then it would be $20 to play the 3D BD.

Why should nVidia pay for this? What do they have to do with Blu-ray?
[quote name='Stevewhitt' post='1081881' date='Jul 2 2010, 04:14 PM']Oh come on. $50 to play 3d blu-ray thats allmsot as much as the drive cost. Dont try and defend this All im asking is for nvidia to support 3d-bluray so i dont have to pay more.. I dont think its unfair that i ask this at all.



Well if you would have purchased a drive with Arcsoft included then it would be $20 to play the 3D BD.



Why should nVidia pay for this? What do they have to do with Blu-ray?

#7
Posted 07/02/2010 11:32 PM   
[quote name='almostinsane' post='1081893' date='Jul 3 2010, 12:32 AM']Well if you would have purchased a drive with Arcsoft included then it would be $20 to play the 3D BD.

Why should nVidia pay for this? What do they have to do with Blu-ray?[/quote]
Ok this is how it used to work. U needed a program like power dvd to play dvd's in the old days.. Now this enabled u to play dvd thro windows media player aswell. I dont know why this happend like u said sumthing to do with the ablity to play dvd on your PC unlocked may it be a licance or whatever. Now if i install power dvd ill have the ablity to play bluray on my PC. Dose blu-ray not work like this?. If not them im sorry and no nvidia shouldetn pay for me the ablity to play blu-ray.
If it dose work like it used to for dvd's then this is where nvidia could help us out and make the 3d vision player have the ablity to do 3d blu-ray
[quote name='almostinsane' post='1081893' date='Jul 3 2010, 12:32 AM']Well if you would have purchased a drive with Arcsoft included then it would be $20 to play the 3D BD.



Why should nVidia pay for this? What do they have to do with Blu-ray?

Ok this is how it used to work. U needed a program like power dvd to play dvd's in the old days.. Now this enabled u to play dvd thro windows media player aswell. I dont know why this happend like u said sumthing to do with the ablity to play dvd on your PC unlocked may it be a licance or whatever. Now if i install power dvd ill have the ablity to play bluray on my PC. Dose blu-ray not work like this?. If not them im sorry and no nvidia shouldetn pay for me the ablity to play blu-ray.

If it dose work like it used to for dvd's then this is where nvidia could help us out and make the 3d vision player have the ablity to do 3d blu-ray

2x gtx480 sli
gigabyte ex58-UD5
i7 920 @4.2ghz on air
6gb ocz reaper 1866mhz
2x Vertex 2 50gb SSD's raid 0
1500w Xigmatek Psu
Acer GD24HQ 24" 1080p 120hz 3D.
3D Vision

#8
Posted 07/03/2010 12:01 AM   
WIN7 and Vista included a license to play DVD's so in effect you paid for it when you purchased the OS or your PC.

PowerDVD won't play 3D Blu-rays. Only Arcsoft TMT will play them. If you want to buy it use the code I posted above.
WIN7 and Vista included a license to play DVD's so in effect you paid for it when you purchased the OS or your PC.



PowerDVD won't play 3D Blu-rays. Only Arcsoft TMT will play them. If you want to buy it use the code I posted above.

#9
Posted 07/03/2010 12:02 AM   
[quote name='almostinsane' post='1081914' date='Jul 3 2010, 01:02 AM']WIN7 and Vista included a license to play DVD's so in effect you paid for it when you purchased the OS or your PC.

PowerDVD won't play 3D Blu-rays. Only Arcsoft TMT will play them. If you want to buy it use the code I posted above.[/quote]
I apreciate the help i do. But im just angry i have to pay more and looking into it i have to buy the platinum edition of the program to play 3D so its even more then i expected. and i was jsut using power dvd as a exsample :) looks like ill be spending $80 on some softwear :(:(:(:( (i blame sony)
[quote name='almostinsane' post='1081914' date='Jul 3 2010, 01:02 AM']WIN7 and Vista included a license to play DVD's so in effect you paid for it when you purchased the OS or your PC.



PowerDVD won't play 3D Blu-rays. Only Arcsoft TMT will play them. If you want to buy it use the code I posted above.

I apreciate the help i do. But im just angry i have to pay more and looking into it i have to buy the platinum edition of the program to play 3D so its even more then i expected. and i was jsut using power dvd as a exsample :) looks like ill be spending $80 on some softwear :(:(:(:( (i blame sony)

2x gtx480 sli
gigabyte ex58-UD5
i7 920 @4.2ghz on air
6gb ocz reaper 1866mhz
2x Vertex 2 50gb SSD's raid 0
1500w Xigmatek Psu
Acer GD24HQ 24" 1080p 120hz 3D.
3D Vision

#10
Posted 07/03/2010 12:06 AM   
Sony doesn't own Blu-ray - There are 100's of companies that have patents in it.

Gotta pay to play!
Sony doesn't own Blu-ray - There are 100's of companies that have patents in it.



Gotta pay to play!

#11
Posted 07/03/2010 12:10 AM   
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#12
Posted 07/03/2010 01:17 AM   
[quote name='Stevewhitt' post='1081916' date='Jul 3 2010, 01:06 AM']I apreciate the help i do. But im just angry i have to pay more and looking into it i have to buy the platinum edition of the program to play 3D so its even more then i expected. and i was jsut using power dvd as a exsample :) looks like ill be spending $80 on some softwear :(:(:(:( (i blame sony)[/quote]


Me too. I wish I knew about Arcsoft TMT before I sunk nearly 100 bucks into PowerDVD 10 Ultra which isn't supported by the nVidia drivers (their tech support tells me).

Also extremely bummed that Cloudy with a chance of Meatballs is the only Bluray 3D disc out there. I saw that movie and didn't like it very much. Where's Avatar and Monster's vs Aliens and Up? I'm so disappointed. :(
[quote name='Stevewhitt' post='1081916' date='Jul 3 2010, 01:06 AM']I apreciate the help i do. But im just angry i have to pay more and looking into it i have to buy the platinum edition of the program to play 3D so its even more then i expected. and i was jsut using power dvd as a exsample :) looks like ill be spending $80 on some softwear :(:(:(:( (i blame sony)





Me too. I wish I knew about Arcsoft TMT before I sunk nearly 100 bucks into PowerDVD 10 Ultra which isn't supported by the nVidia drivers (their tech support tells me).



Also extremely bummed that Cloudy with a chance of Meatballs is the only Bluray 3D disc out there. I saw that movie and didn't like it very much. Where's Avatar and Monster's vs Aliens and Up? I'm so disappointed. :(

#13
Posted 07/03/2010 10:48 AM   
[quote name='Stevewhitt' post='1081911' date='Jul 2 2010, 08:01 PM']Ok this is how it used to work. U needed a program like power dvd to play dvd's in the old days.. Now this enabled u to play dvd thro windows media player aswell. I dont know why this happend like u said sumthing to do with the ablity to play dvd on your PC unlocked may it be a licance or whatever. Now if i install power dvd ill have the ablity to play bluray on my PC. Dose blu-ray not work like this?. If not them im sorry and no nvidia shouldetn pay for me the ablity to play blu-ray.
If it dose work like it used to for dvd's then this is where nvidia could help us out and make the 3d vision player have the ablity to do 3d blu-ray[/quote]
Yes before you had to buy similar software just to play DVDs, then after 4-5 years MS finally obtained license and offered DVD playback for free. Keep in mind, even if MS wanted to pay the license and offer native Blu-Ray support in Media Center or Media Player, that doesn't mean they could without heavy resistance and red tape as they have the constant anti-trust concerns looming overhead anytime they want to increase the functionality of their OS.

If you wanted to be mad at someone, be mad at Cyberlink, Arcsoft, Blu-Ray standards association and everyone else involved for constantly forcing you to upgrade for these incremental features and charging you for the privelege. Cyberlink is the most criminal in this regard as they've already had 3 revisions to PowerDVD since Blu-Ray support was added:
[list]
[*]1) PowerDVD 7: Blu-Ray +HD-DVD support
[*]2) PowerDVD 8: Blu-Ray only with some minor changes like BD Live and online updates/interactivity.
[*]3) PowerDVD 9: Blu-Ray uncompressed HD Audio bitstreaming support, WMC integration, CUDA acceleration for DVD and SD (these are actually quite nice)
[*]4) PowerDVD 10: 3D conversion for DVD/SD, more CUDA features, visual remote/mouse support (finally!), and 3D Blu-Ray support "soon".
[/list]

Each one of these upgrades would cost you $50-$60 from the previous version, its just part of their business model to continuously generate revenue. If anything you should be pleased with the likes of Nvidia as they do NOT charge you for continuous support and updates which are provided free of charge even for older hardware. The latest 258 drivers are a good example of this where we got a ton of new features like 3D Vision Surround for free with just a driver update.
[quote name='Stevewhitt' post='1081911' date='Jul 2 2010, 08:01 PM']Ok this is how it used to work. U needed a program like power dvd to play dvd's in the old days.. Now this enabled u to play dvd thro windows media player aswell. I dont know why this happend like u said sumthing to do with the ablity to play dvd on your PC unlocked may it be a licance or whatever. Now if i install power dvd ill have the ablity to play bluray on my PC. Dose blu-ray not work like this?. If not them im sorry and no nvidia shouldetn pay for me the ablity to play blu-ray.

If it dose work like it used to for dvd's then this is where nvidia could help us out and make the 3d vision player have the ablity to do 3d blu-ray

Yes before you had to buy similar software just to play DVDs, then after 4-5 years MS finally obtained license and offered DVD playback for free. Keep in mind, even if MS wanted to pay the license and offer native Blu-Ray support in Media Center or Media Player, that doesn't mean they could without heavy resistance and red tape as they have the constant anti-trust concerns looming overhead anytime they want to increase the functionality of their OS.



If you wanted to be mad at someone, be mad at Cyberlink, Arcsoft, Blu-Ray standards association and everyone else involved for constantly forcing you to upgrade for these incremental features and charging you for the privelege. Cyberlink is the most criminal in this regard as they've already had 3 revisions to PowerDVD since Blu-Ray support was added:


  • 1) PowerDVD 7: Blu-Ray +HD-DVD support
  • 2) PowerDVD 8: Blu-Ray only with some minor changes like BD Live and online updates/interactivity.
  • 3) PowerDVD 9: Blu-Ray uncompressed HD Audio bitstreaming support, WMC integration, CUDA acceleration for DVD and SD (these are actually quite nice)
  • 4) PowerDVD 10: 3D conversion for DVD/SD, more CUDA features, visual remote/mouse support (finally!), and 3D Blu-Ray support "soon".




Each one of these upgrades would cost you $50-$60 from the previous version, its just part of their business model to continuously generate revenue. If anything you should be pleased with the likes of Nvidia as they do NOT charge you for continuous support and updates which are provided free of charge even for older hardware. The latest 258 drivers are a good example of this where we got a ton of new features like 3D Vision Surround for free with just a driver update.

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#14
Posted 07/03/2010 02:40 PM   
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