Samsung 8 Series Plasma vs Panasonic VT25 I had both in one day!
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Hey, that link you sent is talking about phosphor trailing, not really talking about crosstalk (however phosphor trailing/decay must be adding to the problem).

However, the consensus Im getting from these forums is that both sets suffer from limited crosstalk, with the panasonic coming out on top. Also, as its been said, some content creates more than others. Looks like a bunch of factors are adding up here. I hope they can resolve this.

When I first got a Viewsonic projector, it suffered from bad ghosting. Then I got a newer model and voila, all gone. However, DLP is typically ghost free, and I believe the older projector had something off with it. Probably has a lot to do with Nvidia driver updates as well.

My suggestion to anyone in the market now is to wait on the next series and see if crosstalk can be completely resolved. Or, take the chance on a potential firmware update helping out.

Again, SuperStardust HD looked great with barely noticeable crosstalk (this is probably due to the convergence levels), and even the store demo for Panasonic was very impressive. But playing Motorstorm showed some pretty bad ghosting, which scared me off of these TVs. Perhaps I was too hasty in returning the TV, I did have 15 days, but I didnt want to risk something happening to the TV and me not being able to return it.

As far as a 2D set goes, the samsung is superior for all around value and added functionality, but it is said the Panasonic has the better picture quality in both 2D and 3D.

Make your choice wisely.

here are some useful links

Ghosting Test:
[url="http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1256583"]http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1256583[/url]

Some more comments on Ghosting:
[url="http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=18844960"]http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=18844960[/url]

There are a ton of people on these forums, most say there is ghosting. Look forward to hearing more opinions on these forums when people have the chance to test further
Hey, that link you sent is talking about phosphor trailing, not really talking about crosstalk (however phosphor trailing/decay must be adding to the problem).



However, the consensus Im getting from these forums is that both sets suffer from limited crosstalk, with the panasonic coming out on top. Also, as its been said, some content creates more than others. Looks like a bunch of factors are adding up here. I hope they can resolve this.



When I first got a Viewsonic projector, it suffered from bad ghosting. Then I got a newer model and voila, all gone. However, DLP is typically ghost free, and I believe the older projector had something off with it. Probably has a lot to do with Nvidia driver updates as well.



My suggestion to anyone in the market now is to wait on the next series and see if crosstalk can be completely resolved. Or, take the chance on a potential firmware update helping out.



Again, SuperStardust HD looked great with barely noticeable crosstalk (this is probably due to the convergence levels), and even the store demo for Panasonic was very impressive. But playing Motorstorm showed some pretty bad ghosting, which scared me off of these TVs. Perhaps I was too hasty in returning the TV, I did have 15 days, but I didnt want to risk something happening to the TV and me not being able to return it.



As far as a 2D set goes, the samsung is superior for all around value and added functionality, but it is said the Panasonic has the better picture quality in both 2D and 3D.



Make your choice wisely.



here are some useful links



Ghosting Test:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1256583



Some more comments on Ghosting:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=18844960



There are a ton of people on these forums, most say there is ghosting. Look forward to hearing more opinions on these forums when people have the chance to test further

Windows 8
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Nvidia 3D Vision Kit (glasses are useless now)
Passive LG LW57000 55"
Optoma HD33
Razer Hydra
TrackIR
Oculus Rift (soon)
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#46
Posted 09/08/2010 06:51 PM   
"However, I only payed $1829 for my 58' samsung PNC587000 with 3D blue ray player and 3D glasses included. No tax and free shipping. TV comes tomorrow. I am eager to test it out. "

Where did you get that smoking deal? Are you in the US?
"However, I only payed $1829 for my 58' samsung PNC587000 with 3D blue ray player and 3D glasses included. No tax and free shipping. TV comes tomorrow. I am eager to test it out. "



Where did you get that smoking deal? Are you in the US?

Windows 8
470GTX
Nvidia 3D Vision Kit (glasses are useless now)
Passive LG LW57000 55"
Optoma HD33
Razer Hydra
TrackIR
Oculus Rift (soon)
Two crossed eyes

#47
Posted 09/08/2010 06:52 PM   
"However, I only payed $1829 for my 58' samsung PNC587000 with 3D blue ray player and 3D glasses included. No tax and free shipping. TV comes tomorrow. I am eager to test it out. "

Where did you get that smoking deal? Are you in the US?
"However, I only payed $1829 for my 58' samsung PNC587000 with 3D blue ray player and 3D glasses included. No tax and free shipping. TV comes tomorrow. I am eager to test it out. "



Where did you get that smoking deal? Are you in the US?

Windows 8
470GTX
Nvidia 3D Vision Kit (glasses are useless now)
Passive LG LW57000 55"
Optoma HD33
Razer Hydra
TrackIR
Oculus Rift (soon)
Two crossed eyes

#48
Posted 09/08/2010 06:52 PM   
Hi Damien,

Did you update your firmware on the Samsung before testing 3D? There have been numerous updates to 3D functionality. I got the TV from

[url="http://www.us-appliance.com/pn58c7000.html"]http://www.us-appliance.com/pn58c7000.html[/url]

Add the blue ray player and 3d glasses to your cart. You will need to enter CC info in order to see the deal. Here is a link to the slickdeals.net forums where I found the deal in the first place. I know it sold out once.

[url="http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?sduid=0&t=2208138"]http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.ph...0&t=2208138[/url]

p.s - Im in the US
Hi Damien,



Did you update your firmware on the Samsung before testing 3D? There have been numerous updates to 3D functionality. I got the TV from



http://www.us-appliance.com/pn58c7000.html



Add the blue ray player and 3d glasses to your cart. You will need to enter CC info in order to see the deal. Here is a link to the slickdeals.net forums where I found the deal in the first place. I know it sold out once.



http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.ph...0&t=2208138



p.s - Im in the US

4770k @ 4.2 Water cooled
32 Gigs DDR 3 2400
GTX Titan X SLI
Obsidian 800D
EVGA 1300 watt
1 Terabyte SSD raid 0
ASUS 27 inch 3D monitor 3D vision 2.

#49
Posted 09/08/2010 11:20 PM   
Hi Damien,

Did you update your firmware on the Samsung before testing 3D? There have been numerous updates to 3D functionality. I got the TV from

[url="http://www.us-appliance.com/pn58c7000.html"]http://www.us-appliance.com/pn58c7000.html[/url]

Add the blue ray player and 3d glasses to your cart. You will need to enter CC info in order to see the deal. Here is a link to the slickdeals.net forums where I found the deal in the first place. I know it sold out once.

[url="http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?sduid=0&t=2208138"]http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.ph...0&t=2208138[/url]

p.s - Im in the US
Hi Damien,



Did you update your firmware on the Samsung before testing 3D? There have been numerous updates to 3D functionality. I got the TV from



http://www.us-appliance.com/pn58c7000.html



Add the blue ray player and 3d glasses to your cart. You will need to enter CC info in order to see the deal. Here is a link to the slickdeals.net forums where I found the deal in the first place. I know it sold out once.



http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.ph...0&t=2208138



p.s - Im in the US

4770k @ 4.2 Water cooled
32 Gigs DDR 3 2400
GTX Titan X SLI
Obsidian 800D
EVGA 1300 watt
1 Terabyte SSD raid 0
ASUS 27 inch 3D monitor 3D vision 2.

#50
Posted 09/08/2010 11:20 PM   
Yes I updated it. I believe it was 1026 maybe? I'd love to hear more on your upcoming experiences with this TV because I really liked it a lot (aside from my ghosting issues)! And the price is right for sure. Enjoy it and let me know more as you continue to use it!
Yes I updated it. I believe it was 1026 maybe? I'd love to hear more on your upcoming experiences with this TV because I really liked it a lot (aside from my ghosting issues)! And the price is right for sure. Enjoy it and let me know more as you continue to use it!

Windows 8
470GTX
Nvidia 3D Vision Kit (glasses are useless now)
Passive LG LW57000 55"
Optoma HD33
Razer Hydra
TrackIR
Oculus Rift (soon)
Two crossed eyes

#51
Posted 09/09/2010 12:11 AM   
Yes I updated it. I believe it was 1026 maybe? I'd love to hear more on your upcoming experiences with this TV because I really liked it a lot (aside from my ghosting issues)! And the price is right for sure. Enjoy it and let me know more as you continue to use it!
Yes I updated it. I believe it was 1026 maybe? I'd love to hear more on your upcoming experiences with this TV because I really liked it a lot (aside from my ghosting issues)! And the price is right for sure. Enjoy it and let me know more as you continue to use it!

Windows 8
470GTX
Nvidia 3D Vision Kit (glasses are useless now)
Passive LG LW57000 55"
Optoma HD33
Razer Hydra
TrackIR
Oculus Rift (soon)
Two crossed eyes

#52
Posted 09/09/2010 12:11 AM   
By the way mine was the 8 series, not the 7 series. I think the only difference is the addition of a "real black filter"
By the way mine was the 8 series, not the 7 series. I think the only difference is the addition of a "real black filter"

Windows 8
470GTX
Nvidia 3D Vision Kit (glasses are useless now)
Passive LG LW57000 55"
Optoma HD33
Razer Hydra
TrackIR
Oculus Rift (soon)
Two crossed eyes

#53
Posted 09/09/2010 12:13 AM   
By the way mine was the 8 series, not the 7 series. I think the only difference is the addition of a "real black filter"
By the way mine was the 8 series, not the 7 series. I think the only difference is the addition of a "real black filter"

Windows 8
470GTX
Nvidia 3D Vision Kit (glasses are useless now)
Passive LG LW57000 55"
Optoma HD33
Razer Hydra
TrackIR
Oculus Rift (soon)
Two crossed eyes

#54
Posted 09/09/2010 12:13 AM   
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