[quote name='Chibi_Chaingun' post='962635' date='Dec 10 2009, 05:09 PM']Is this an indication of why they dropped CRTs? No HDCP?[/quote]
Excellent remark i did not think about it.
Bought a brand new and expansive 120Hz Samsung or viewsonic display ? No blu-Ray for you, it's not nvidia's fault... they just forgot to tell you that they don't support hdcp at 120Hz.
I don't know about the projectors though.
Just to reassure everyone i'm not ranting against nvidia... my (beautiful, outstanding, amazing, glorious) Zalman monitor is also not HDCP compliant.
[quote name='Chibi_Chaingun' post='962635' date='Dec 10 2009, 05:09 PM']Is this an indication of why they dropped CRTs? No HDCP?
Excellent remark i did not think about it.
Bought a brand new and expansive 120Hz Samsung or viewsonic display ? No blu-Ray for you, it's not nvidia's fault... they just forgot to tell you that they don't support hdcp at 120Hz.
I don't know about the projectors though.
Just to reassure everyone i'm not ranting against nvidia... my (beautiful, outstanding, amazing, glorious) Zalman monitor is also not HDCP compliant.
Passive 3D forever
110" DIY dual-projection system
2x Epson EH-TW3500 (1080p) + Linear Polarizers (SPAR)
XtremScreen Daylight 2.0
VNS Geobox501 signal converter
Hrm, so I'm confused? In my Nvidia control panel it says my graphics
card and display ARE HDCP capable. I have the 22" Samsung, but
I'm worried my 50"Samsung 3d ready Plasma won't be compatable.
Did Nvidia actually drop DLP/CRT support? I have yet to hear any
confirmation about that..
One can only ponder as to why the important and legitimate issues aren't being given the
proper care and attention.
I expect 3d blue rays to work on any 3d vision certified display. INCLUDING generic
CRT DLP support, since that is included in the list of compatable displays.
[quote name='dreamingawake' post='962804' date='Dec 10 2009, 10:45 PM']One can only ponder as to why the important and legitimate issues aren't being given the
proper care and attention.
I expect 3d blue rays to work on any 3d vision certified display. INCLUDING generic
CRT DLP support, since that is included in the list of compatable displays.[/quote]
[quote name='dreamingawake' post='962804' date='Dec 10 2009, 10:45 PM']One can only ponder as to why the important and legitimate issues aren't being given the
proper care and attention.
I expect 3d blue rays to work on any 3d vision certified display. INCLUDING generic
CRT DLP support, since that is included in the list of compatable displays.
I will not be giving up on my Barco Graphics 808 projector - having 3D on a 126" screen is too nice...
If you want your system to play on CRT without it being HDCP compliant - you may want to look into AnyDVD - that would do the trick.
If you are like me and are into CRT projectors you can look into the EXT FULLHD V2 from Moome - it provides full HDMI 1.3 at full res (1080p) for VGA monitors / projectors. It supports 120Hz for 720p and 1080i (not p unfortunately).
You can find info here: [url="http://www.curtpalme.com/EXT-FULLHD.shtm"]http://www.curtpalme.com/EXT-FULLHD.shtm[/url]
I have currently an HDFury2 which right now does not have enough bandwidth to do 120hz at 720p or 1080i - HDfury3 promises to do that as well. Since I have two inputs on my PJ I switch between the two to have 3D or to have regular resolutions. I am looking into getting either the HDFury3 (upgrade) or the Moome box.
Info on the HDFury3 can be found here: [url="http://www.curtpalme.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=18792"]http://www.curtpalme.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=18792[/url]
These two boxes are "HDCP" compliant. You can hook up a Bluray player or a PC with a Software Bluray player (ie TMT3 or PDVD) and it will work on your analog monitor/projector.
I will not be giving up on my Barco Graphics 808 projector - having 3D on a 126" screen is too nice...
If you want your system to play on CRT without it being HDCP compliant - you may want to look into AnyDVD - that would do the trick.
If you are like me and are into CRT projectors you can look into the EXT FULLHD V2 from Moome - it provides full HDMI 1.3 at full res (1080p) for VGA monitors / projectors. It supports 120Hz for 720p and 1080i (not p unfortunately).
I have currently an HDFury2 which right now does not have enough bandwidth to do 120hz at 720p or 1080i - HDfury3 promises to do that as well. Since I have two inputs on my PJ I switch between the two to have 3D or to have regular resolutions. I am looking into getting either the HDFury3 (upgrade) or the Moome box.
These two boxes are "HDCP" compliant. You can hook up a Bluray player or a PC with a Software Bluray player (ie TMT3 or PDVD) and it will work on your analog monitor/projector.
[quote name='BlackSharkfr' post='962690' date='Dec 10 2009, 07:13 PM']Bought a brand new and expansive 120Hz Samsung or viewsonic display ? No blu-Ray for you, it's not nvidia's fault... they just forgot to tell you that they don't support hdcp at 120Hz.[/quote]
Sorry, but that's simply not true. You definately can certify monitors and grafic cards with higher specs concerning refresh rate and resolution for HDCP. My 30" Dell has for instance a dual link DVI on which BOTH TDMS channels are HDCP certified. Thus - and only thus - I am able to watch BluRay on my monitor, the Geforce285 will even scale it up to 2560x1600. My previous NV80 Geforce8800GTX would only deliver 1280x720 on the same screen due to just one TDMS channel being HDCP compliant. The same would happen if a monitor just has one compliant TDMS input. - Both Sammy and Viewsonic have dual link for bandwith reasons. Now, [i]if[/i] they screwed it up it is even less nvidia's fault.
Concerning CRTs with VGA, 3D Stereo or not: the grafic card/BluRay player will allow a max. of 1280x720 or even black-out completely when trying to play back encrypted material due the to broken HDCP chain. In this regard I wonder whether this box above is actually 100% legal, but nevermind.
On the other side, if (and they will) release a S§D standard for BluRay it mandatory will have to support higher refresh rates without braking backwards compatibility with existing players and TV sets / projectors. Upcomming monitors and grafic cards will more than likely move from DualLink DVI to HDMI 1.4, then the issue will become obsolete anyway.
[quote name='BlackSharkfr' post='962690' date='Dec 10 2009, 07:13 PM']Bought a brand new and expansive 120Hz Samsung or viewsonic display ? No blu-Ray for you, it's not nvidia's fault... they just forgot to tell you that they don't support hdcp at 120Hz.
Sorry, but that's simply not true. You definately can certify monitors and grafic cards with higher specs concerning refresh rate and resolution for HDCP. My 30" Dell has for instance a dual link DVI on which BOTH TDMS channels are HDCP certified. Thus - and only thus - I am able to watch BluRay on my monitor, the Geforce285 will even scale it up to 2560x1600. My previous NV80 Geforce8800GTX would only deliver 1280x720 on the same screen due to just one TDMS channel being HDCP compliant. The same would happen if a monitor just has one compliant TDMS input. - Both Sammy and Viewsonic have dual link for bandwith reasons. Now, if they screwed it up it is even less nvidia's fault.
Concerning CRTs with VGA, 3D Stereo or not: the grafic card/BluRay player will allow a max. of 1280x720 or even black-out completely when trying to play back encrypted material due the to broken HDCP chain. In this regard I wonder whether this box above is actually 100% legal, but nevermind.
On the other side, if (and they will) release a S§D standard for BluRay it mandatory will have to support higher refresh rates without braking backwards compatibility with existing players and TV sets / projectors. Upcomming monitors and grafic cards will more than likely move from DualLink DVI to HDMI 1.4, then the issue will become obsolete anyway.
i think we all predicted this , and as i figured ati just wanted to announce something they were doing about s3d
i think we all predicted this , and as i figured ati just wanted to announce something they were doing about s3d
intel i5 2500k @ 4.6 30C Stable
EVGA gtx 470 SLI
windows vista 64 bit
8 gig Corsair Vengeance RAM
Excellent remark i did not think about it.
Bought a brand new and expansive 120Hz Samsung or viewsonic display ? No blu-Ray for you, it's not nvidia's fault... they just forgot to tell you that they don't support hdcp at 120Hz.
I don't know about the projectors though.
Just to reassure everyone i'm not ranting against nvidia... my (beautiful, outstanding, amazing, glorious) Zalman monitor is also not HDCP compliant.
Excellent remark i did not think about it.
Bought a brand new and expansive 120Hz Samsung or viewsonic display ? No blu-Ray for you, it's not nvidia's fault... they just forgot to tell you that they don't support hdcp at 120Hz.
I don't know about the projectors though.
Just to reassure everyone i'm not ranting against nvidia... my (beautiful, outstanding, amazing, glorious) Zalman monitor is also not HDCP compliant.
Passive 3D forever
110" DIY dual-projection system
2x Epson EH-TW3500 (1080p) + Linear Polarizers (SPAR)
XtremScreen Daylight 2.0
VNS Geobox501 signal converter
I am wanting to pull the trigger on the Acer H5360. Don't know if it's certified, and now I'm afraid to get anything. :\
I am wanting to pull the trigger on the Acer H5360. Don't know if it's certified, and now I'm afraid to get anything. :\
card and display ARE HDCP capable. I have the 22" Samsung, but
I'm worried my 50"Samsung 3d ready Plasma won't be compatable.
Did Nvidia actually drop DLP/CRT support? I have yet to hear any
confirmation about that..
card and display ARE HDCP capable. I have the 22" Samsung, but
I'm worried my 50"Samsung 3d ready Plasma won't be compatable.
Did Nvidia actually drop DLP/CRT support? I have yet to hear any
confirmation about that..
proper care and attention.
I expect 3d blue rays to work on any 3d vision certified display. INCLUDING generic
CRT DLP support, since that is included in the list of compatable displays.
proper care and attention.
I expect 3d blue rays to work on any 3d vision certified display. INCLUDING generic
CRT DLP support, since that is included in the list of compatable displays.
proper care and attention.
I expect 3d blue rays to work on any 3d vision certified display. INCLUDING generic
CRT DLP support, since that is included in the list of compatable displays.[/quote]
idk if your gonna be watching blu ray on a crt?..
proper care and attention.
I expect 3d blue rays to work on any 3d vision certified display. INCLUDING generic
CRT DLP support, since that is included in the list of compatable displays.
idk if your gonna be watching blu ray on a crt?..
intel i5 2500k @ 4.6 30C Stable
EVGA gtx 470 SLI
windows vista 64 bit
8 gig Corsair Vengeance RAM
[url="http://www.nvidia.com/object/3D_Vision_Requirements.html"]http://www.nvidia.com/object/3D_Vision_Requirements.html[/url]
http://www.nvidia.com/object/3D_Vision_Requirements.html
I will not be giving up on my Barco Graphics 808 projector - having 3D on a 126" screen is too nice...
If you want your system to play on CRT without it being HDCP compliant - you may want to look into AnyDVD - that would do the trick.
If you are like me and are into CRT projectors you can look into the EXT FULLHD V2 from Moome - it provides full HDMI 1.3 at full res (1080p) for VGA monitors / projectors. It supports 120Hz for 720p and 1080i (not p unfortunately).
You can find info here: [url="http://www.curtpalme.com/EXT-FULLHD.shtm"]http://www.curtpalme.com/EXT-FULLHD.shtm[/url]
I have currently an HDFury2 which right now does not have enough bandwidth to do 120hz at 720p or 1080i - HDfury3 promises to do that as well. Since I have two inputs on my PJ I switch between the two to have 3D or to have regular resolutions. I am looking into getting either the HDFury3 (upgrade) or the Moome box.
Info on the HDFury3 can be found here: [url="http://www.curtpalme.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=18792"]http://www.curtpalme.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=18792[/url]
These two boxes are "HDCP" compliant. You can hook up a Bluray player or a PC with a Software Bluray player (ie TMT3 or PDVD) and it will work on your analog monitor/projector.
I will not be giving up on my Barco Graphics 808 projector - having 3D on a 126" screen is too nice...
If you want your system to play on CRT without it being HDCP compliant - you may want to look into AnyDVD - that would do the trick.
If you are like me and are into CRT projectors you can look into the EXT FULLHD V2 from Moome - it provides full HDMI 1.3 at full res (1080p) for VGA monitors / projectors. It supports 120Hz for 720p and 1080i (not p unfortunately).
You can find info here: http://www.curtpalme.com/EXT-FULLHD.shtm
I have currently an HDFury2 which right now does not have enough bandwidth to do 120hz at 720p or 1080i - HDfury3 promises to do that as well. Since I have two inputs on my PJ I switch between the two to have 3D or to have regular resolutions. I am looking into getting either the HDFury3 (upgrade) or the Moome box.
Info on the HDFury3 can be found here: http://www.curtpalme.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=18792
These two boxes are "HDCP" compliant. You can hook up a Bluray player or a PC with a Software Bluray player (ie TMT3 or PDVD) and it will work on your analog monitor/projector.
Sorry, but that's simply not true. You definately can certify monitors and grafic cards with higher specs concerning refresh rate and resolution for HDCP. My 30" Dell has for instance a dual link DVI on which BOTH TDMS channels are HDCP certified. Thus - and only thus - I am able to watch BluRay on my monitor, the Geforce285 will even scale it up to 2560x1600. My previous NV80 Geforce8800GTX would only deliver 1280x720 on the same screen due to just one TDMS channel being HDCP compliant. The same would happen if a monitor just has one compliant TDMS input. - Both Sammy and Viewsonic have dual link for bandwith reasons. Now, [i]if[/i] they screwed it up it is even less nvidia's fault.
Concerning CRTs with VGA, 3D Stereo or not: the grafic card/BluRay player will allow a max. of 1280x720 or even black-out completely when trying to play back encrypted material due the to broken HDCP chain. In this regard I wonder whether this box above is actually 100% legal, but nevermind.
On the other side, if (and they will) release a S§D standard for BluRay it mandatory will have to support higher refresh rates without braking backwards compatibility with existing players and TV sets / projectors. Upcomming monitors and grafic cards will more than likely move from DualLink DVI to HDMI 1.4, then the issue will become obsolete anyway.
Sorry, but that's simply not true. You definately can certify monitors and grafic cards with higher specs concerning refresh rate and resolution for HDCP. My 30" Dell has for instance a dual link DVI on which BOTH TDMS channels are HDCP certified. Thus - and only thus - I am able to watch BluRay on my monitor, the Geforce285 will even scale it up to 2560x1600. My previous NV80 Geforce8800GTX would only deliver 1280x720 on the same screen due to just one TDMS channel being HDCP compliant. The same would happen if a monitor just has one compliant TDMS input. - Both Sammy and Viewsonic have dual link for bandwith reasons. Now, if they screwed it up it is even less nvidia's fault.
Concerning CRTs with VGA, 3D Stereo or not: the grafic card/BluRay player will allow a max. of 1280x720 or even black-out completely when trying to play back encrypted material due the to broken HDCP chain. In this regard I wonder whether this box above is actually 100% legal, but nevermind.
On the other side, if (and they will) release a S§D standard for BluRay it mandatory will have to support higher refresh rates without braking backwards compatibility with existing players and TV sets / projectors. Upcomming monitors and grafic cards will more than likely move from DualLink DVI to HDMI 1.4, then the issue will become obsolete anyway.