Suggestions for 1080p Nvidia 3DTV play supported projector
Could you guys suggest me a 1080p 3D projector suppoted by nvidia 3dtv play? I understand that we can not play at 1080p/60hz in 3D. But still 1080p could be good for 2D movies. I was looking at BenQ W1080ST but it has brightness of only 2000 lumens. Is is bright enough? I would really appreciate feedback from people using 1080p 3D projectors in this forum.
Could you guys suggest me a 1080p 3D projector suppoted by nvidia 3dtv play? I understand that we can not play at 1080p/60hz in 3D. But still 1080p could be good for 2D movies.

I was looking at BenQ W1080ST but it has brightness of only 2000 lumens. Is is bright enough?

I would really appreciate feedback from people using 1080p 3D projectors in this forum.

#1
Posted 08/13/2013 06:45 AM   
Although I own an Acer 5360BD 720p projector myself, I'm always researching the latest projectors, and I really think the W1080ST/W1070 is the best out there, at least at the price. I wouldn't worry about its 2000 lumens. Many projectors sacrifice color brightness for white brightness, which lets them inflate their lumen rating. My Acer does that. They do this by inserting white segments into the projector's color wheel. It's not necessarily a bad thing, as having brighter whites helps if you have to fight off ambient light. In a dark room though, you're better off (as far as picture quality) not sacrificing color brightness for white brightness. The Benq is a champ in that regard, as it has a pure RGBRGB color wheel. For DLP-link 3D projectors though, in 3D mode that extra white segment gets used for the DLP-link flash. That is, all those extra lumens are wasted in 3D mode. The white flash gets blocked by the glasses in both eyes. The Benq meanwhile uses a red segment. So at the end of the day, the Benq should match projectors with higher lumen ratings on paper in 3D mode. Meanwhile, it'll give a superior image in 2D mode by not employing any tricks. If you're worried about brightness, you can get a high gain screen. The Dalite High Power is a good choice.
Although I own an Acer 5360BD 720p projector myself, I'm always researching the latest projectors, and I really think the W1080ST/W1070 is the best out there, at least at the price.

I wouldn't worry about its 2000 lumens. Many projectors sacrifice color brightness for white brightness, which lets them inflate their lumen rating. My Acer does that. They do this by inserting white segments into the projector's color wheel. It's not necessarily a bad thing, as having brighter whites helps if you have to fight off ambient light. In a dark room though, you're better off (as far as picture quality) not sacrificing color brightness for white brightness. The Benq is a champ in that regard, as it has a pure RGBRGB color wheel.

For DLP-link 3D projectors though, in 3D mode that extra white segment gets used for the DLP-link flash. That is, all those extra lumens are wasted in 3D mode. The white flash gets blocked by the glasses in both eyes. The Benq meanwhile uses a red segment. So at the end of the day, the Benq should match projectors with higher lumen ratings on paper in 3D mode. Meanwhile, it'll give a superior image in 2D mode by not employing any tricks.

If you're worried about brightness, you can get a high gain screen. The Dalite High Power is a good choice.

#2
Posted 08/13/2013 07:37 AM   
[quote="Airion"]Although I own an Acer 5360BD 720p projector myself, I'm always researching the latest projectors, and I really think the W1080ST/W1070 is the best out there, at least at the price. I wouldn't worry about its 2000 lumens. Many projectors sacrifice color brightness for white brightness, which lets them inflate their lumen rating. My Acer does that. They do this by inserting white segments into the projector's color wheel. It's not necessarily a bad thing, as having brighter whites helps if you have to fight off ambient light. In a dark room though, you're better off (as far as picture quality) not sacrificing color brightness for white brightness. The Benq is a champ in that regard, as it has a pure RGBRGB color wheel. For DLP-link 3D projectors though, in 3D mode that extra white segment gets used for the DLP-link flash. That is, all those extra lumens are wasted in 3D mode. The white flash gets blocked by the glasses in both eyes. The Benq meanwhile uses a red segment. So at the end of the day, the Benq should match projectors with higher lumen ratings on paper in 3D mode. Meanwhile, it'll give a superior image in 2D mode by not employing any tricks. If you're worried about brightness, you can get a high gain screen. The Dalite High Power is a good choice. [/quote] What do you think about Acer 5360BD? Are you satisfied with it? I also found Acer 6510BD with 1080p 3D. Its brightness is 3000 lumens. Anybody using this projector?
Airion said:Although I own an Acer 5360BD 720p projector myself, I'm always researching the latest projectors, and I really think the W1080ST/W1070 is the best out there, at least at the price.

I wouldn't worry about its 2000 lumens. Many projectors sacrifice color brightness for white brightness, which lets them inflate their lumen rating. My Acer does that. They do this by inserting white segments into the projector's color wheel. It's not necessarily a bad thing, as having brighter whites helps if you have to fight off ambient light. In a dark room though, you're better off (as far as picture quality) not sacrificing color brightness for white brightness. The Benq is a champ in that regard, as it has a pure RGBRGB color wheel.

For DLP-link 3D projectors though, in 3D mode that extra white segment gets used for the DLP-link flash. That is, all those extra lumens are wasted in 3D mode. The white flash gets blocked by the glasses in both eyes. The Benq meanwhile uses a red segment. So at the end of the day, the Benq should match projectors with higher lumen ratings on paper in 3D mode. Meanwhile, it'll give a superior image in 2D mode by not employing any tricks.

If you're worried about brightness, you can get a high gain screen. The Dalite High Power is a good choice.


What do you think about Acer 5360BD? Are you satisfied with it?

I also found Acer 6510BD with 1080p 3D. Its brightness is 3000 lumens. Anybody using this projector?

#3
Posted 08/13/2013 07:50 AM   
[quote="imarun"]I also found Acer 6510BD with 1080p 3D. Its brightness is 3000 lumens.[/quote] As I described above, many projectors sacrifice colors for higher white brightness measurement. The Acer 6510BD is guilty of this. Unless you want a projector that can deal with ambient light in 2D, the Benq is definitely the better choice. Don't let the lumen numbers mislead you; they're [i]meant[/i] to mislead you. Yes, I'm happy with my 5360BD, as a cheap 720p model. I look forward to replacing it with a 1080p model when I can justify it.
imarun said:I also found Acer 6510BD with 1080p 3D. Its brightness is 3000 lumens.


As I described above, many projectors sacrifice colors for higher white brightness measurement. The Acer 6510BD is guilty of this. Unless you want a projector that can deal with ambient light in 2D, the Benq is definitely the better choice. Don't let the lumen numbers mislead you; they're meant to mislead you.

Yes, I'm happy with my 5360BD, as a cheap 720p model. I look forward to replacing it with a 1080p model when I can justify it.

#4
Posted 08/13/2013 08:16 AM   
There are a lot of variables when buying a projector, what works well for one person may not work well for another. Things to consider: short throw, long throw, zoom, keystone, lens shift, beam angle out, light control within the enviroment, connection distance to source, format compatibility, screen gain and size.....just to name a few. Also some new features like interpolation or 2D-3D conversion for watching films might be desirable. A huge factor is "Budget". You're biggest problem is that you need a short throw projector and the majority available are for business/classroom use.
There are a lot of variables when buying a projector, what works well for one person may not work well for another.

Things to consider: short throw, long throw, zoom, keystone, lens shift, beam angle out, light control within the enviroment, connection distance to source, format compatibility, screen gain and size.....just to name a few.

Also some new features like interpolation or 2D-3D conversion for watching films might be desirable.

A huge factor is "Budget".

You're biggest problem is that you need a short throw projector and the majority available are for business/classroom use.

#5
Posted 08/13/2013 01:56 PM   
I'm surprised that no one recommends the 3xLCD projectors over the DLP ones. They [i]claim[/i] to be brighter and while more costly tend to review with higher picture quality ratings. Is there a reason to avoid them?
I'm surprised that no one recommends the 3xLCD projectors over the DLP ones. They claim to be brighter and while more costly tend to review with higher picture quality ratings.

Is there a reason to avoid them?

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#6
Posted 08/13/2013 02:59 PM   
Yes, Lag....
Yes, Lag....

#7
Posted 08/13/2013 03:08 PM   
[quote="D-Man11"]You're biggest problem is that you need a short throw projector and the majority available are for business/classroom use.[/quote] Well I am keeping my options open. The only wall I have available has about 7 feet projection distance but I have open space. If I buy a portable projection screen (the one which comes with a tripod) then I could increase my projection distance up to 15 feet.
D-Man11 said:You're biggest problem is that you need a short throw projector and the majority available are for business/classroom use.


Well I am keeping my options open. The only wall I have available has about 7 feet projection distance but I have open space. If I buy a portable projection screen (the one which comes with a tripod) then I could increase my projection distance up to 15 feet.

#8
Posted 08/13/2013 07:00 PM   
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