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[quote name='Stangedays' date='07 November 2011 - 03:45 PM' timestamp='1320695111' post='1321865']
Hi Andrew,

Sorry, & I'm obviously only speaking for myself here & sorry for butting in.

But NO, once you've played Metro 2033 & Dirt 3 in 3D on a huge projector screen there's just NO going back. This last year I feel has been a disaster for 3D games with only a few of the AAA titles fully supporting it.

I understand you have no control what so ever over developers, but some of the comments they themselves have come up with "3D is a fad & won't last" and so on and so on does make me wonder if NVIDIA is doing enough to try to sell 3D to them & show them just how amazingly good it can be..

<Minor Rant Over....>
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+1 Big Time. Why would anyone who has invested $500 or more in 3D Vision equipment (like I did) be happy to game in 2D. Battlefield 3, Deus Ex Human Revolution, now MW3. Are we supposed to be thankful for the opportunity to play a few older games in 3D while we sit and anxiously await the arrival of a new game that will actually support 3D? What utter poppycock!

Nvidia, I can't help feeling you've sold me a bill of goods that can't deliver on its promise. Now, I have no choice, too much invested in 3D Vision to be able to afford other solutions.

Thanks tons.
[quote name='Stangedays' date='07 November 2011 - 03:45 PM' timestamp='1320695111' post='1321865']

Hi Andrew,



Sorry, & I'm obviously only speaking for myself here & sorry for butting in.



But NO, once you've played Metro 2033 & Dirt 3 in 3D on a huge projector screen there's just NO going back. This last year I feel has been a disaster for 3D games with only a few of the AAA titles fully supporting it.



I understand you have no control what so ever over developers, but some of the comments they themselves have come up with "3D is a fad & won't last" and so on and so on does make me wonder if NVIDIA is doing enough to try to sell 3D to them & show them just how amazingly good it can be..



<Minor Rant Over....>





+1 Big Time. Why would anyone who has invested $500 or more in 3D Vision equipment (like I did) be happy to game in 2D. Battlefield 3, Deus Ex Human Revolution, now MW3. Are we supposed to be thankful for the opportunity to play a few older games in 3D while we sit and anxiously await the arrival of a new game that will actually support 3D? What utter poppycock!



Nvidia, I can't help feeling you've sold me a bill of goods that can't deliver on its promise. Now, I have no choice, too much invested in 3D Vision to be able to afford other solutions.



Thanks tons.

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#16
Posted 11/07/2011 11:30 PM   
I don't buy non 3D Vision games. Sorry but just can't do it. I am still holding out that one magical day someone somewhere makes Doom3 work in 3D. Till then Doom3 will not be played ever again. Quake 4 as well.
I don't buy non 3D Vision games. Sorry but just can't do it. I am still holding out that one magical day someone somewhere makes Doom3 work in 3D. Till then Doom3 will not be played ever again. Quake 4 as well.

#17
Posted 11/07/2011 11:31 PM   
[quote name='Capt Proton' date='07 November 2011 - 05:30 PM' timestamp='1320708647' post='1321980']
+1 Big Time. Why would anyone who has invested $500 or more in 3D Vision equipment (like I did) be happy to game in 2D. Battlefield 3, Deus Ex Human Revolution, now MW3. Are we supposed to be thankful for the opportunity to play a few older games in 3D while we sit and anxiously await the arrival of a new game that will actually support 3D? What utter poppycock!

Nvidia, I can't help feeling you've sold me a bill of goods that can't deliver on its promise. Now, I have no choice, too much invested in 3D Vision to be able to afford other solutions.

Thanks tons.
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It will be Ok, have a cookie and relax. There are plenty of amazing looking games already in 3D. I find it hard to believe anyone has beat all of them. Try Aion, that should last you awhile. /rofl.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':rofl:' />
[quote name='Capt Proton' date='07 November 2011 - 05:30 PM' timestamp='1320708647' post='1321980']

+1 Big Time. Why would anyone who has invested $500 or more in 3D Vision equipment (like I did) be happy to game in 2D. Battlefield 3, Deus Ex Human Revolution, now MW3. Are we supposed to be thankful for the opportunity to play a few older games in 3D while we sit and anxiously await the arrival of a new game that will actually support 3D? What utter poppycock!



Nvidia, I can't help feeling you've sold me a bill of goods that can't deliver on its promise. Now, I have no choice, too much invested in 3D Vision to be able to afford other solutions.



Thanks tons.



It will be Ok, have a cookie and relax. There are plenty of amazing looking games already in 3D. I find it hard to believe anyone has beat all of them. Try Aion, that should last you awhile. /rofl.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':rofl:' />

#18
Posted 11/07/2011 11:50 PM   
[quote name='andrewf@nvidia' date='07 November 2011 - 11:12 AM' timestamp='1320693126' post='1321845']
Well I dont want you to do that since the game will still be fun in 2D mode with a 120Hz monitor. Let me ask you that - even if they game isnt wonderful in 3D, dont you enjoy playing it in 2D at 120Hz?
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Phffffft...

Ah great, Andrews a 2D'er, lemme guess, favorite game: Altered Beast?
[quote name='andrewf@nvidia' date='07 November 2011 - 11:12 AM' timestamp='1320693126' post='1321845']

Well I dont want you to do that since the game will still be fun in 2D mode with a 120Hz monitor. Let me ask you that - even if they game isnt wonderful in 3D, dont you enjoy playing it in 2D at 120Hz?





Phffffft...



Ah great, Andrews a 2D'er, lemme guess, favorite game: Altered Beast?

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#19
Posted 11/08/2011 12:13 AM   
I still don't know how anyone cares about MW3. There's this game called Battlefield, I heard it was pretty cool...
I still don't know how anyone cares about MW3. There's this game called Battlefield, I heard it was pretty cool...

#20
Posted 11/08/2011 01:58 AM   
It's really amazing how people blame nVidia or even Andrew personally if a game doesn't work well in 3D. Like it's even nVidia's fault...

It's sad, certainly, that so many new rendering technologies make it virtually impossible to create a correct S3D image if the developer doesn't have S3D in mind to begin with. And you also could say that nVidia should have a utmost interest in convincing the developers to look into that. But still, nVidia just doesn't have any way to force them to do that.

You're free to be dissappointed and you can always sell your 3DVision equipment. But blaming nVidia all the time if a game doesn't work well is really silly.
It's really amazing how people blame nVidia or even Andrew personally if a game doesn't work well in 3D. Like it's even nVidia's fault...



It's sad, certainly, that so many new rendering technologies make it virtually impossible to create a correct S3D image if the developer doesn't have S3D in mind to begin with. And you also could say that nVidia should have a utmost interest in convincing the developers to look into that. But still, nVidia just doesn't have any way to force them to do that.



You're free to be dissappointed and you can always sell your 3DVision equipment. But blaming nVidia all the time if a game doesn't work well is really silly.

#21
Posted 11/08/2011 06:40 AM   
Well, one more reason to move to bf3, at least a 3d patch is coming, another win for dice.

About 3d vs 2d, I won't be playing non-3d games anytime soon. I probably have about 20-30 great games in 3d still waiting, and that's not even counting PS3 games that hopefully I will be able to play soon with the hmz-t1 nor emulators like dolphin, nulldc or pcsx2, so for me there's no reason to play 2d games right now, 3d just adds so much immersion to any game that without it games feel lifeless, I swear I've tried several 2d games but 75% of my time goes with "wow this would look great in 3d", not worth it. When I'm done with all of them maybe I'll go retro and play 2d, I don't know.
Well, one more reason to move to bf3, at least a 3d patch is coming, another win for dice.



About 3d vs 2d, I won't be playing non-3d games anytime soon. I probably have about 20-30 great games in 3d still waiting, and that's not even counting PS3 games that hopefully I will be able to play soon with the hmz-t1 nor emulators like dolphin, nulldc or pcsx2, so for me there's no reason to play 2d games right now, 3d just adds so much immersion to any game that without it games feel lifeless, I swear I've tried several 2d games but 75% of my time goes with "wow this would look great in 3d", not worth it. When I'm done with all of them maybe I'll go retro and play 2d, I don't know.

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#22
Posted 11/08/2011 07:44 AM   
[quote name='f3likx' date='07 November 2011 - 07:58 PM' timestamp='1320717488' post='1322031']
I still don't know how anyone cares about MW3. There's this game called Battlefield, I heard it was pretty cool...
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I heard about it as well. I also heard it is waaayyy better than CODMW. /clap.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':clap:' />
[quote name='f3likx' date='07 November 2011 - 07:58 PM' timestamp='1320717488' post='1322031']

I still don't know how anyone cares about MW3. There's this game called Battlefield, I heard it was pretty cool...



I heard about it as well. I also heard it is waaayyy better than CODMW. /clap.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':clap:' />

#23
Posted 11/08/2011 02:57 PM   
[quote name='IC3D' date='07 November 2011 - 10:22 AM' timestamp='1320686575' post='1321782']
The key word in that Read it is "fad". 3D is not mainstream and imho has a long way to go before many use it as general everyday entertainment in home. Stereoscopic 3D is ok, infact quite good but i'm in the minority. I would rather a game company concentrate their vision on a more feature complete and polished game rather than 3d tech if i'm honest.
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Polish and 3D are not mutually exclusive. "Polished" is an arbitrary charcterization, so I want games to be "polished" and in 3D.

High definintion TV, movies, automobiles, air travel, 3D.... all start out as "fads" before they become main stream so there's nothing wrong with being a "fad". My wife refered to 3D movies as a 'gimmick'. I quickly corrected her by saying "you mean 2D is a gimmick, right?". I explained that the real world is in 3D, so 3D movies are natural and therefore not a gimmick. To take a 3D scene and map it to a 2D plane by removing one dimension is artificial and unnatural, a 'gimmick' to try to emulate the real world.

From the news story:
"It has been confirmed that Infinity Ward's latest release and perhaps the biggest game launch of the year does not support 3D unlike its predecessor Black Ops.
Although developed by Treyarch, Black Ops welcomed 3D and in some ways was better for it. With no 3D support for Modern Warfare 3, this seems like a step backwards."

All this says is that the game won't have a built-in 3D mode. So what? Most games don't have a built-in 3D mode, like portal, Bioshock, but they play great in 3D.

Others can play MW3 in 2D, but I will not reward a game developer for going out of his way to cheat me out of a fun experience by ruining a game. MW2 was improved greatly in 3D over 2D, so I'm not going to play a watered down version of a game (the 2D emulation of real world 3D). If Nvidia can't get this game working in 3D (like with fear 3) I won't play it. For me, it's full quality or nothing. Games are technology and technology is supposed to go in only one direction, improvement, not degradation. What's next, football games televised in 200x200 resolution?
[quote name='IC3D' date='07 November 2011 - 10:22 AM' timestamp='1320686575' post='1321782']

The key word in that Read it is "fad". 3D is not mainstream and imho has a long way to go before many use it as general everyday entertainment in home. Stereoscopic 3D is ok, infact quite good but i'm in the minority. I would rather a game company concentrate their vision on a more feature complete and polished game rather than 3d tech if i'm honest.



Polish and 3D are not mutually exclusive. "Polished" is an arbitrary charcterization, so I want games to be "polished" and in 3D.



High definintion TV, movies, automobiles, air travel, 3D.... all start out as "fads" before they become main stream so there's nothing wrong with being a "fad". My wife refered to 3D movies as a 'gimmick'. I quickly corrected her by saying "you mean 2D is a gimmick, right?". I explained that the real world is in 3D, so 3D movies are natural and therefore not a gimmick. To take a 3D scene and map it to a 2D plane by removing one dimension is artificial and unnatural, a 'gimmick' to try to emulate the real world.



From the news story:

"It has been confirmed that Infinity Ward's latest release and perhaps the biggest game launch of the year does not support 3D unlike its predecessor Black Ops.

Although developed by Treyarch, Black Ops welcomed 3D and in some ways was better for it. With no 3D support for Modern Warfare 3, this seems like a step backwards."



All this says is that the game won't have a built-in 3D mode. So what? Most games don't have a built-in 3D mode, like portal, Bioshock, but they play great in 3D.



Others can play MW3 in 2D, but I will not reward a game developer for going out of his way to cheat me out of a fun experience by ruining a game. MW2 was improved greatly in 3D over 2D, so I'm not going to play a watered down version of a game (the 2D emulation of real world 3D). If Nvidia can't get this game working in 3D (like with fear 3) I won't play it. For me, it's full quality or nothing. Games are technology and technology is supposed to go in only one direction, improvement, not degradation. What's next, football games televised in 200x200 resolution?

#24
Posted 11/08/2011 03:48 PM   
Guess I will save the money from this game and use it for L.A Noire if it truly has decent 3D support.
Guess I will save the money from this game and use it for L.A Noire if it truly has decent 3D support.

#25
Posted 11/08/2011 03:53 PM   
[quote name='Capt Proton' date='07 November 2011 - 06:30 PM' timestamp='1320708647' post='1321980']
+1 Big Time. Why would anyone who has invested $500 or more in 3D Vision equipment (like I did) be happy to game in 2D. Battlefield 3, Deus Ex Human Revolution, now MW3. Are we supposed to be thankful for the opportunity to play a few older games in 3D while we sit and anxiously await the arrival of a new game that will actually support 3D? What utter poppycock!

Nvidia, I can't help feeling you've sold me a bill of goods that can't deliver on its promise. Now, I have no choice, too much invested in 3D Vision to be able to afford other solutions.

Thanks tons.
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Hi

Please provide your feedback to the developer. We are willing to support it as best we can, but sometimes developers choose to not fix bugs.
[quote name='Capt Proton' date='07 November 2011 - 06:30 PM' timestamp='1320708647' post='1321980']

+1 Big Time. Why would anyone who has invested $500 or more in 3D Vision equipment (like I did) be happy to game in 2D. Battlefield 3, Deus Ex Human Revolution, now MW3. Are we supposed to be thankful for the opportunity to play a few older games in 3D while we sit and anxiously await the arrival of a new game that will actually support 3D? What utter poppycock!



Nvidia, I can't help feeling you've sold me a bill of goods that can't deliver on its promise. Now, I have no choice, too much invested in 3D Vision to be able to afford other solutions.



Thanks tons.





Hi



Please provide your feedback to the developer. We are willing to support it as best we can, but sometimes developers choose to not fix bugs.

#26
Posted 11/08/2011 04:19 PM   
[url="http://3dizzy.com/games/mw3.html"]Stream 3D Modern Warfare 3 [/url]

Check out some of Battlefields Flying compared to Modern Warfare 3's Flying. Which looks better?

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Stream 3D Modern Warfare 3



Check out some of Battlefields Flying compared to Modern Warfare 3's Flying. Which looks better?



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#27
Posted 11/08/2011 05:37 PM   
From what I have seen, if the crosshair and hud waypoints could be removed, MW3 actually wouldn't be too bad in 3d. There is a little bit of a problem with fires, but other than that and the other, it is pretty good. Shadows and lighting works and the game looks like it would be amazing in 3d.
From what I have seen, if the crosshair and hud waypoints could be removed, MW3 actually wouldn't be too bad in 3d. There is a little bit of a problem with fires, but other than that and the other, it is pretty good. Shadows and lighting works and the game looks like it would be amazing in 3d.

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#28
Posted 11/08/2011 10:24 PM   
[quote name='3Dizzy.com' date='08 November 2011 - 10:37 AM' timestamp='1320773876' post='1322370']
[url="http://3dizzy.com/games/mw3.html"]Stream 3D Modern Warfare 3 [/url]

Check out some of Battlefields Flying compared to Modern Warfare 3's Flying. Which looks better?
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BF3 looked pretty good, of course there were no high contrast scenes to demo the artifact I noticed in the subway scene.
MW3 was totally screwed. The gun model was horribly blurred, no way would I play this game if this is representative of the 3D.
Another otherwise great game goes down the toilet because of the stupidity of the developer.
[quote name='3Dizzy.com' date='08 November 2011 - 10:37 AM' timestamp='1320773876' post='1322370']

Stream 3D Modern Warfare 3



Check out some of Battlefields Flying compared to Modern Warfare 3's Flying. Which looks better?



BF3 looked pretty good, of course there were no high contrast scenes to demo the artifact I noticed in the subway scene.

MW3 was totally screwed. The gun model was horribly blurred, no way would I play this game if this is representative of the 3D.

Another otherwise great game goes down the toilet because of the stupidity of the developer.

#29
Posted 11/08/2011 10:59 PM   
This is really ridicules. I always play only campaigns and don't use multiplayer. A year ago purchased nVidia 3D Vision and waited especially for my two favorite titles. BF3 ($60) and COD-MW3 another ($60). At first i could not believe there's no 3D vision support in BF3 at the release date but i said to myself well ok i can forget it since new Call of Duty is just behind the corner. And now what did i just learned?!?!? No 3D nVidia vision support in this game either!!!!! Are You serious????!!! I'm so disappointed. Really. Second and biggest game of the year won't work in 3D?!?! I really can't believe how nVidia let this happen. I know it's not their fault from technical point of view but since they sold so much 3D equipment to us should they put some more pressure on games developers???? Come on nVidia! We spent good amount of money to play these games in 3D! Yes mainly BF3 and COFMW3 not super mario or other weird titles. We want to be able to play blockbusters! That's why we all bought this equipment for. How many days before release dates did You know already that both games won't work in 3D? I was so upset with BF3 couple of weeks ago when i find out it won't work in 3D. Of course i already paid for it then and now i have the same exactly issue. I would never ever expect that CODMW3 won't work in 3D either until i purchased it. Very disappointed! Extremely disappointed! NVidia does this mean we won't be able to play blockbusters ever again at release date???? I don't want to wait again and again for patches. I finish BF3 campaign few days ago in 2D because i couldn't wait any longer. I can't explain my pain. I'm sure i'm not the only one here. This is really beyond everything...
...very sad FPS gamer...and until today fan of 3D Vision...
This is really ridicules. I always play only campaigns and don't use multiplayer. A year ago purchased nVidia 3D Vision and waited especially for my two favorite titles. BF3 ($60) and COD-MW3 another ($60). At first i could not believe there's no 3D vision support in BF3 at the release date but i said to myself well ok i can forget it since new Call of Duty is just behind the corner. And now what did i just learned?!?!? No 3D nVidia vision support in this game either!!!!! Are You serious????!!! I'm so disappointed. Really. Second and biggest game of the year won't work in 3D?!?! I really can't believe how nVidia let this happen. I know it's not their fault from technical point of view but since they sold so much 3D equipment to us should they put some more pressure on games developers???? Come on nVidia! We spent good amount of money to play these games in 3D! Yes mainly BF3 and COFMW3 not super mario or other weird titles. We want to be able to play blockbusters! That's why we all bought this equipment for. How many days before release dates did You know already that both games won't work in 3D? I was so upset with BF3 couple of weeks ago when i find out it won't work in 3D. Of course i already paid for it then and now i have the same exactly issue. I would never ever expect that CODMW3 won't work in 3D either until i purchased it. Very disappointed! Extremely disappointed! NVidia does this mean we won't be able to play blockbusters ever again at release date???? I don't want to wait again and again for patches. I finish BF3 campaign few days ago in 2D because i couldn't wait any longer. I can't explain my pain. I'm sure i'm not the only one here. This is really beyond everything...

...very sad FPS gamer...and until today fan of 3D Vision...

#30
Posted 11/09/2011 05:37 AM   
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