No mention of 3D vision in new driver Highlights / Changelogs
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New driver releases have not shown any updates to 3D vision profiles for a while. I think this is one of the final death knells for nVidia's interest in the 3D Vision and the 3D community. I can't say that many of us will be surprised. Game compatibility has been progressively but surely getting worse over time. The compatible hardware section has not been updated with new displays in a very long time. Helix and the like have been angels in the community but they too can only go so far as more and more games that come out are DX11/OpenGL. It's not looking good guys... :(
New driver releases have not shown any updates to 3D vision profiles for a while.

I think this is one of the final death knells for nVidia's interest in the 3D Vision and the 3D community.

I can't say that many of us will be surprised.

Game compatibility has been progressively but surely getting worse over time.

The compatible hardware section has not been updated with new displays in a very long time.

Helix and the like have been angels in the community but they too can only go so far as more and more games that come out are DX11/OpenGL.

It's not looking good guys... :(

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#1
Posted 05/25/2013 11:52 AM   
Yah, the only promising thing I've seen in awhile was back in January when Andrew Fear stated..... "I still work on 3D Vision and in fact I am on a call right now with the engineering team discussing some new 3D Vision features." https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/525816/3d-vision/in-7-months-there-has-been-one-post-from-nvidia-in-this-forum/post/3731041/#3731041 Now that the "Shield" has launched and the Geforce experience is finally maturing, we can only hope that some over due attention will be given to 3D Vision. Nvidia is foolish to even let it slide for as long as they have. They need to step up their game! If they don't, they will lose not only a single GPU puschase to AMD but in a lot of cases multiple GPU sales because many "3D Vision users SLI their rigs". Not to mention lost sales of the glasses and certified monitors.
Yah, the only promising thing I've seen in awhile was back in January when Andrew Fear stated.....

"I still work on 3D Vision and in fact I am on a call right now with the engineering team discussing some new 3D Vision features."

https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/525816/3d-vision/in-7-months-there-has-been-one-post-from-nvidia-in-this-forum/post/3731041/#3731041

Now that the "Shield" has launched and the Geforce experience is finally maturing, we can only hope that some over due attention will be given to 3D Vision.

Nvidia is foolish to even let it slide for as long as they have.

They need to step up their game!

If they don't, they will lose not only a single GPU puschase to AMD but in a lot of cases multiple GPU sales because many "3D Vision users SLI their rigs". Not to mention lost sales of the glasses and certified monitors.

#2
Posted 05/25/2013 07:19 PM   
Just a note: Nvidia update has gone bye bye. Well sort of. You must install the Geforce experience if you want Nvidia update, they're packaged together now. [quote="ManuelG"]While you are not required to install GFE, it is a major part of our plans for how we bring new value to our customers going forward. A lot of exciting features are in the works for Geforce gamers.[/quote] https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/544882/geforce-drivers/official-nvidia-320-18-whql-display-driver-feedback-thread-released-5-23-13-/post/3815910/#3815910
Just a note:

Nvidia update has gone bye bye. Well sort of.

You must install the Geforce experience if you want Nvidia update, they're packaged together now.


ManuelG said:While you are not required to install GFE, it is a major part of our plans for how we bring new value to our customers going forward. A lot of exciting features are in the works for Geforce gamers.


https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/544882/geforce-drivers/official-nvidia-320-18-whql-display-driver-feedback-thread-released-5-23-13-/post/3815910/#3815910

#3
Posted 05/25/2013 08:25 PM   
*shrug* Whose to say what nvidia is doing. I've said it before they are over extending themselves with all these stupid tech ideas [and not sponsoring/optimizing video games....]. No 3d vision profiles can mean anything including what you said. But they are launching new cards, geforce experience, shadowplay, stupid hand held device. They are a mess. I don't think nvidia is the type of company that will just stop support unless people stop spending money. They will give the impression of support to earn the $$$.... which is where we are right now regardless....
*shrug* Whose to say what nvidia is doing. I've said it before they are over extending themselves with all these stupid tech ideas [and not sponsoring/optimizing video games....]. No 3d vision profiles can mean anything including what you said. But they are launching new cards, geforce experience, shadowplay, stupid hand held device. They are a mess.

I don't think nvidia is the type of company that will just stop support unless people stop spending money. They will give the impression of support to earn the $$$.... which is where we are right now regardless....

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#4
Posted 05/25/2013 09:44 PM   
[quote="eqzitara"]*shrug* Whose to say what nvidia is doing. I've said it before they are over extending themselves with all these stupid tech ideas [and not sponsoring/optimizing video games....]. No 3d vision profiles can mean anything including what you said. But they are launching new cards, geforce experience, shadowplay, stupid hand held device. They are a mess..[/quote] But the Geforce Experience is super useful? I don't think theres anyone out there smart enough to even know how to change ingame options, let alone know what all these aliasing and occluzion words mean.
eqzitara said:*shrug* Whose to say what nvidia is doing. I've said it before they are over extending themselves with all these stupid tech ideas [and not sponsoring/optimizing video games....]. No 3d vision profiles can mean anything including what you said. But they are launching new cards, geforce experience, shadowplay, stupid hand held device. They are a mess..

But the Geforce Experience is super useful? I don't think theres anyone out there smart enough to even know how to change ingame options, let alone know what all these aliasing and occluzion words mean.

#5
Posted 05/25/2013 10:09 PM   
Geforce Experience is semi-useful but its a such a money scheme. People will set it to high. Geforce experience will turn on features like SSAA. Peoples computers are gonna lag, then people are gonna think they need to upgrade. People will be reliant on nvidia to tell them what features to turn on... which is an odd choice when you consider they sell video cards.... Its like me opening my wallet to a homeless man and saying how much should I give you?
Geforce Experience is semi-useful but its a such a money scheme. People will set it to high. Geforce experience will turn on features like SSAA. Peoples computers are gonna lag, then people are gonna think they need to upgrade. People will be reliant on nvidia to tell them what features to turn on... which is an odd choice when you consider they sell video cards....
Its like me opening my wallet to a homeless man and saying how much should I give you?

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#6
Posted 05/25/2013 10:22 PM   
I really can't think of anything worse. What if I want a higher framerate? Or I don't like motion blur? Or the occlusion effect in a certain game looks crap? Or I wan't better AA for worse lighting effects? Etc, etc, etc. The joys of PC gaming are in its customizability, the Geforce Experience is the same as just starting up a game and leaving it at the 'detected' settings.
I really can't think of anything worse. What if I want a higher framerate? Or I don't like motion blur? Or the occlusion effect in a certain game looks crap? Or I wan't better AA for worse lighting effects?

Etc, etc, etc.

The joys of PC gaming are in its customizability, the Geforce Experience is the same as just starting up a game and leaving it at the 'detected' settings.

#7
Posted 05/25/2013 10:28 PM   
I can't believe that they are including the GeForce experience with their latest drivers. From reading the forum for it you continually see thins like ....will not recognize my GPU, encountered an error and must close, failed to install, failed to launch, stuck in update loop, etc............
I can't believe that they are including the GeForce experience with their latest drivers.

From reading the forum for it you continually see thins like ....will not recognize my GPU, encountered an error and must close, failed to install, failed to launch, stuck in update loop, etc............

#8
Posted 05/25/2013 10:34 PM   
Everything seems to go this way. Windows 8 is a great example too. It's a brick with 4 large dumb buttons (exaggerating a little...). However: In the future we will not have to buy computers or cards anymore. We just rent as much computerpower and storage that we need in the cloud and use a tiny little human interface device to reach it. That will be great times! (sarcasm...)
Everything seems to go this way. Windows 8 is a great example too. It's a brick with 4 large dumb buttons (exaggerating a little...). However: In the future we will not have to buy computers or cards anymore. We just rent as much computerpower and storage that we need in the cloud and use a tiny little human interface device to reach it. That will be great times! (sarcasm...)

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#9
Posted 05/25/2013 10:52 PM   
I looked for new 3D Vision profiles on the changelogs, but I was let down when I found nothing. I was hoping for Resident Evil 6 and Revelations profiles... But not having any new profiles makes me wonder if 3D Vision is officially dead.
I looked for new 3D Vision profiles on the changelogs, but I was let down when I found nothing. I was hoping for Resident Evil 6 and Revelations profiles... But not having any new profiles makes me wonder if 3D Vision is officially dead.

#10
Posted 05/26/2013 01:28 AM   
My, it's certainly gloomy in here. Please allow me to offer an alternate reason why there aren't any profiles in the latest driver. Anybody think NVidia was doing a good job with profiles recently? Really nailing the quality settings and getting them right every time? Yeah, me neither. In fact, they kept breaking games that were already working. Is it not possible that they also noticed that their profile group had gone off the rails? I'm actually happy that they stopped jacking with the profiles. That group hasn't done anything useful in more than a year. Another possible reason for no profiles is that they recognized they were blowing it, and are taking steps to fix it. First step, stop causing new problems.
My, it's certainly gloomy in here. Please allow me to offer an alternate reason why there aren't any profiles in the latest driver.

Anybody think NVidia was doing a good job with profiles recently? Really nailing the quality settings and getting them right every time? Yeah, me neither. In fact, they kept breaking games that were already working.

Is it not possible that they also noticed that their profile group had gone off the rails?

I'm actually happy that they stopped jacking with the profiles. That group hasn't done anything useful in more than a year.

Another possible reason for no profiles is that they recognized they were blowing it, and are taking steps to fix it. First step, stop causing new problems.

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#11
Posted 05/26/2013 10:17 AM   
Don't count on it though. It's a kind of deja vu if you ask me. Dangling a carrot for a while to later pull it away seems to be nvidias constant melody. Seriously nvidia: Are you really gonna let people like me have some foundation when we picture you as greedy assholes or are you going to prove us wrong?
Don't count on it though. It's a kind of deja vu if you ask me. Dangling a carrot for a while to later pull it away seems to be nvidias constant melody.
Seriously nvidia: Are you really gonna let people like me have some foundation when we picture you as greedy assholes or are you going to prove us wrong?

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#12
Posted 05/26/2013 10:57 AM   
[quote="leandroeidi"]I looked for new 3D Vision profiles on the changelogs, but[u] I was let down when I found nothing. I was hoping for Resident Evil 6 and Revelations profiles[/u]... But not having any new profiles makes me wonder if 3D Vision is officially dead.[/quote] lol, what dimension of this world have you been living in? Nvidia's 3D profile now only rates games 3D vision readiness, not fixing issues or giving proper support. you shouldn't expect anything and therefore there shouldn't be any letdown.
leandroeidi said:I looked for new 3D Vision profiles on the changelogs, but I was let down when I found nothing. I was hoping for Resident Evil 6 and Revelations profiles... But not having any new profiles makes me wonder if 3D Vision is officially dead.


lol, what dimension of this world have you been living in? Nvidia's 3D profile now only rates games 3D vision readiness, not fixing issues or giving proper support. you shouldn't expect anything and therefore there shouldn't be any letdown.

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#13
Posted 05/26/2013 12:23 PM   
[quote="bo3b"] Another possible reason for no profiles is that they recognized they were blowing it, and are taking steps to fix it. First step, stop causing new problems.[/quote] so you're telling me that the users of this forum can do 3D vision fixes based on Helix mod, yet Nvidia's employees cannot and what's more, they even manage to break 3D vision for games?
bo3b said:

Another possible reason for no profiles is that they recognized they were blowing it, and are taking steps to fix it. First step, stop causing new problems.


so you're telling me that the users of this forum can do 3D vision fixes based on Helix mod, yet Nvidia's employees cannot and what's more, they even manage to break 3D vision for games?

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#14
Posted 05/26/2013 12:26 PM   
[quote="teardropmina"] they even manage to break 3D vision for games? [/quote] Admittedly not often, but it does occur. Games on wrong profiles, like borderlands 2 [Seriously... they sponsored the game and not only that but had preview build for months. They had sli/3d vision profile for 3 months prior to release]. If you look at a lot of my patches I mention having to rename the game/nvidia inspector. That just goes to show you how much effort is put into that. Helix's games that they patched and changed after he did them at least a month earlier. Nvidia has never been good with updating profiles, I mean even the big name games that helix patched which was Mass Effect 3/ Amalur took a month before nvidia added a profile and broke them. Took them 3 months to change it back after a lot of requests for mass effect 3. @leandroeidi Yea, not quite sure why you need nvidia's profile for Revelations... Not sure if you know of helixmod or not though. TBH, can "profile" games yourself. Look in my comments.
teardropmina said:
they even manage to break 3D vision for games?


Admittedly not often, but it does occur. Games on wrong profiles, like borderlands 2 [Seriously... they sponsored the game and not only that but had preview build for months. They had sli/3d vision profile for 3 months prior to release]. If you look at a lot of my patches I mention having to rename the game/nvidia inspector. That just goes to show you how much effort is put into that. Helix's games that they patched and changed after he did them at least a month earlier. Nvidia has never been good with updating profiles, I mean even the big name games that helix patched which was Mass Effect 3/ Amalur took a month before nvidia added a profile and broke them. Took them 3 months to change it back after a lot of requests for mass effect 3.


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Yea, not quite sure why you need nvidia's profile for Revelations... Not sure if you know of helixmod or not though.
TBH, can "profile" games yourself. Look in my comments.

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#15
Posted 05/26/2013 05:59 PM   
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