Nvidia Vision 1 vs 2 on a lightboost monitor
I just purchased an ASUS VG278HE monitor which contains lightboost. I currently had a Nvidia vision 1 set with an ASUS VG234H which was ok but ghosting was quite bad on most games. Right now I am using Nvidia vision 1 set with my VG278HE monitor and ghosting seems to be significantly better in about the middle of the monitor while the top and bottom of the monitor has ghosting about the same as my old monitor. Will purchasing nvidia vision 2 glasses make any improvement on this crosstalk? Some websites make it seem like I need the new glasses to take full advantage of the new lightboost while some say there is no difference in the glasses except different design. Additionally I found some sources saying that seeing that crosstalk on the top and bottom of the monitor is a sync issue and the monitor is defective or I need a new DVI cable. I am just a little lost in this sea of information and would like some clarification of what I can do to obtain the best 3d vision experience as possible.
I just purchased an ASUS VG278HE monitor which contains lightboost. I currently had a Nvidia vision 1 set with an ASUS VG234H which was ok but ghosting was quite bad on most games.

Right now I am using Nvidia vision 1 set with my VG278HE monitor and ghosting seems to be significantly better in about the middle of the monitor while the top and bottom of the monitor has ghosting about the same as my old monitor.

Will purchasing nvidia vision 2 glasses make any improvement on this crosstalk? Some websites make it seem like I need the new glasses to take full advantage of the new lightboost while some say there is no difference in the glasses except different design.

Additionally I found some sources saying that seeing that crosstalk on the top and bottom of the monitor is a sync issue and the monitor is defective or I need a new DVI cable.

I am just a little lost in this sea of information and would like some clarification of what I can do to obtain the best 3d vision experience as possible.

#1
Posted 08/25/2014 03:09 AM   
I have the two versions of the glasses and the same monitor. There are no difference with the glasses, only physical.
I have the two versions of the glasses and the same monitor. There are no difference with the glasses, only physical.

#2
Posted 08/25/2014 06:23 AM   
Yes, no difference between the glasses, the Lightboost in the monitor is what makes it version 2. If you are getting ghosting on top and bottom, I don't know what would cause that. If it was a sync problem you'd get ghosting only on either top or bottom, not both. I assume this is running at the usual 120Hz. This might just be the nature of the LCD screens, and high contrast images. Try turning the brightness down. Something to try: [url]http://3dvision-blog.com/tag/ghost-reduction/[/url] And more info on your monitor to decide if it's broken: [url]http://3dvision-blog.com/6335-review-of-the-27-inch-asus-vg278h-3d-vision-ready-lcd-monitor/[/url] [url]http://3dvision-blog.com/6365-more-on-ghosting-and-brightness-of-the-asus-vg278h-3d-monitor/[/url]
Yes, no difference between the glasses, the Lightboost in the monitor is what makes it version 2.

If you are getting ghosting on top and bottom, I don't know what would cause that. If it was a sync problem you'd get ghosting only on either top or bottom, not both.

I assume this is running at the usual 120Hz.

This might just be the nature of the LCD screens, and high contrast images. Try turning the brightness down.

Something to try: http://3dvision-blog.com/tag/ghost-reduction/

And more info on your monitor to decide if it's broken:

http://3dvision-blog.com/6335-review-of-the-27-inch-asus-vg278h-3d-vision-ready-lcd-monitor/
http://3dvision-blog.com/6365-more-on-ghosting-and-brightness-of-the-asus-vg278h-3d-monitor/

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#3
Posted 08/25/2014 07:30 AM   
Top and bottom ghosting may be caused by low quality of 3D support in current game as well. What game you play?
Top and bottom ghosting may be caused by low quality of 3D support in current game as well. What game you play?

#4
Posted 08/25/2014 10:05 AM   
Can you take a photo through the glasses so we can have a look? Could be a faulty monitor.
Can you take a photo through the glasses so we can have a look? Could be a faulty monitor.

#5
Posted 08/25/2014 11:50 AM   
Make sure Contrast is set somewhere between 50 & 70 depending on how much white is on the screen. 65 is usually where I keep mine. Otherwise you will get noticeable ghosting in most games if Contrast is above 70.
Make sure Contrast is set somewhere between 50 & 70 depending on how much white is on the screen. 65 is usually where I keep mine.

Otherwise you will get noticeable ghosting in most games if Contrast is above 70.

#6
Posted 08/25/2014 01:31 PM   
I'm currently playing GTA 4 and I took a couple pictures which is hard to show because the crosstalk is generally much worse when moving but trying to take a picture while moving on a crappy phone camera is not very easy. I attached images from left and right eye here. From looking at the links posted though it looks like they had similar bad ghosting at top and bottom unfortunately. [img]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/11411/2014-08-25%2010.09.55.jpg[/img] [img]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/11411/2014-08-25%2010.10.11.jpg[/img]
I'm currently playing GTA 4 and I took a couple pictures which is hard to show because the crosstalk is generally much worse when moving but trying to take a picture while moving on a crappy phone camera is not very easy. I attached images from left and right eye here. From looking at the links posted though it looks like they had similar bad ghosting at top and bottom unfortunately.

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#7
Posted 08/25/2014 02:42 PM   
I am considering buying an NEC PA242W-BK monitor, will it function with 3D Vision?
I am considering buying an NEC PA242W-BK monitor, will it function with 3D Vision?

#8
Posted 08/25/2014 05:52 PM   
[quote="Hobson"]I'm currently playing GTA 4 and I took a couple pictures which is hard to show because the crosstalk is generally much worse when moving but trying to take a picture while moving on a crappy phone camera is not very easy. I attached images from left and right eye here. From looking at the links posted though it looks like they had similar bad ghosting at top and bottom unfortunately. [/quote]Based on those pics there, and your description, I think that what you are seeing is just the nature of LCD based 3D Vision. Yours seems pretty much inline with what I see on a VG248QE. If it really bugs you (it does me) and you can't find good enough settings to minimize it, your best bet is a DLP projector. Zero ghosting.
Hobson said:I'm currently playing GTA 4 and I took a couple pictures which is hard to show because the crosstalk is generally much worse when moving but trying to take a picture while moving on a crappy phone camera is not very easy. I attached images from left and right eye here. From looking at the links posted though it looks like they had similar bad ghosting at top and bottom unfortunately.
Based on those pics there, and your description, I think that what you are seeing is just the nature of LCD based 3D Vision. Yours seems pretty much inline with what I see on a VG248QE.

If it really bugs you (it does me) and you can't find good enough settings to minimize it, your best bet is a DLP projector. Zero ghosting.

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#9
Posted 08/25/2014 09:12 PM   
I guess I'll just try my best to optimize it. Don't really have room for a DLP projector. I just wanted to especially make sure my monitor was as intended since I bought it used and my return window is very small. Some games are still almost unplayable with annoying ghosting like antichamber which is a damn shame thought that would be cool to play in good 3d.
I guess I'll just try my best to optimize it. Don't really have room for a DLP projector. I just wanted to especially make sure my monitor was as intended since I bought it used and my return window is very small.

Some games are still almost unplayable with annoying ghosting like antichamber which is a damn shame thought that would be cool to play in good 3d.

#10
Posted 08/25/2014 09:21 PM   
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