Changes in offical Nvidia 3D Vision Compatibility list--questions/concerns
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[url="http://www.nvidia.com/object/3D_Vision_Requirements.html"]http://www.nvidia.com/object/3D_Vision_Requirements.html[/url]

If this has been discussed, I don't see it. This page changed greatly from the last time I checked it.

Ok, generic DLP was dumped. We've already seen support drop for months at a time, so I suspect if there is a major issue again, we may really be in trouble this time.

Also, what is it with the "Works with 3D Blu-Ray" column?? What is magical about the projectors that don't have the asterisk meaning you have to have a software solution? Is that because they come with a bundle? Because all BD playback is going to have to be with a software player isn't it?
http://www.nvidia.com/object/3D_Vision_Requirements.html



If this has been discussed, I don't see it. This page changed greatly from the last time I checked it.



Ok, generic DLP was dumped. We've already seen support drop for months at a time, so I suspect if there is a major issue again, we may really be in trouble this time.



Also, what is it with the "Works with 3D Blu-Ray" column?? What is magical about the projectors that don't have the asterisk meaning you have to have a software solution? Is that because they come with a bundle? Because all BD playback is going to have to be with a software player isn't it?

#1
Posted 05/24/2010 08:30 PM   
[url="http://www.nvidia.com/object/3D_Vision_Requirements.html"]http://www.nvidia.com/object/3D_Vision_Requirements.html[/url]

If this has been discussed, I don't see it. This page changed greatly from the last time I checked it.

Ok, generic DLP was dumped. We've already seen support drop for months at a time, so I suspect if there is a major issue again, we may really be in trouble this time.

Also, what is it with the "Works with 3D Blu-Ray" column?? What is magical about the projectors that don't have the asterisk meaning you have to have a software solution? Is that because they come with a bundle? Because all BD playback is going to have to be with a software player isn't it?
http://www.nvidia.com/object/3D_Vision_Requirements.html



If this has been discussed, I don't see it. This page changed greatly from the last time I checked it.



Ok, generic DLP was dumped. We've already seen support drop for months at a time, so I suspect if there is a major issue again, we may really be in trouble this time.



Also, what is it with the "Works with 3D Blu-Ray" column?? What is magical about the projectors that don't have the asterisk meaning you have to have a software solution? Is that because they come with a bundle? Because all BD playback is going to have to be with a software player isn't it?

#2
Posted 05/24/2010 08:30 PM   
No it hasn't been talked about in this forum yet and it should be. This is definitely a bad sign for things to come for Samsung DLP owners. NV might not drop S-3D gaming support but very likely not giving anything more for these DLPs from now on out, ie. Blueray 3D support.

If that ever happens, I will vote with my wallet and will immediatly sell all Nvidia related products on Ebay & Craigslist and be done with it and will, at my convenience, convince all people that I know to NOT buying any Nvidia products ever. Why ? because it won't be the first time Nv slap its buyers in the face and tell us that we are idiots to buy its products on shaky expectations.

Until then, I will remain appreciative of its S3D solution and its efforts of refraining from screwing us Samsung DLP owners too hard. /confused.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':confused:' />




[quote name='turls' post='1061143' date='May 24 2010, 01:30 PM'][url="http://www.nvidia.com/object/3D_Vision_Requirements.html"]http://www.nvidia.com/object/3D_Vision_Requirements.html[/url]

If this has been discussed, I don't see it. This page changed greatly from the last time I checked it.

Ok, generic DLP was dumped. We've already seen support drop for months at a time, so I suspect if there is a major issue again, we may really be in trouble this time.

Also, what is it with the "Works with 3D Blu-Ray" column?? What is magical about the projectors that don't have the asterisk meaning you have to have a software solution? Is that because they come with a bundle? Because all BD playback is going to have to be with a software player isn't it?[/quote]
No it hasn't been talked about in this forum yet and it should be. This is definitely a bad sign for things to come for Samsung DLP owners. NV might not drop S-3D gaming support but very likely not giving anything more for these DLPs from now on out, ie. Blueray 3D support.



If that ever happens, I will vote with my wallet and will immediatly sell all Nvidia related products on Ebay & Craigslist and be done with it and will, at my convenience, convince all people that I know to NOT buying any Nvidia products ever. Why ? because it won't be the first time Nv slap its buyers in the face and tell us that we are idiots to buy its products on shaky expectations.



Until then, I will remain appreciative of its S3D solution and its efforts of refraining from screwing us Samsung DLP owners too hard. /confused.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':confused:' />









[quote name='turls' post='1061143' date='May 24 2010, 01:30 PM']http://www.nvidia.com/object/3D_Vision_Requirements.html



If this has been discussed, I don't see it. This page changed greatly from the last time I checked it.



Ok, generic DLP was dumped. We've already seen support drop for months at a time, so I suspect if there is a major issue again, we may really be in trouble this time.



Also, what is it with the "Works with 3D Blu-Ray" column?? What is magical about the projectors that don't have the asterisk meaning you have to have a software solution? Is that because they come with a bundle? Because all BD playback is going to have to be with a software player isn't it?

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Benq 2720Z, w1070, Oculus Rift cv1, Samsung Odyssey+

#3
Posted 05/24/2010 09:39 PM   
No it hasn't been talked about in this forum yet and it should be. This is definitely a bad sign for things to come for Samsung DLP owners. NV might not drop S-3D gaming support but very likely not giving anything more for these DLPs from now on out, ie. Blueray 3D support.

If that ever happens, I will vote with my wallet and will immediatly sell all Nvidia related products on Ebay & Craigslist and be done with it and will, at my convenience, convince all people that I know to NOT buying any Nvidia products ever. Why ? because it won't be the first time Nv slap its buyers in the face and tell us that we are idiots to buy its products on shaky expectations.

Until then, I will remain appreciative of its S3D solution and its efforts of refraining from screwing us Samsung DLP owners too hard. /confused.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':confused:' />




[quote name='turls' post='1061143' date='May 24 2010, 01:30 PM'][url="http://www.nvidia.com/object/3D_Vision_Requirements.html"]http://www.nvidia.com/object/3D_Vision_Requirements.html[/url]

If this has been discussed, I don't see it. This page changed greatly from the last time I checked it.

Ok, generic DLP was dumped. We've already seen support drop for months at a time, so I suspect if there is a major issue again, we may really be in trouble this time.

Also, what is it with the "Works with 3D Blu-Ray" column?? What is magical about the projectors that don't have the asterisk meaning you have to have a software solution? Is that because they come with a bundle? Because all BD playback is going to have to be with a software player isn't it?[/quote]
No it hasn't been talked about in this forum yet and it should be. This is definitely a bad sign for things to come for Samsung DLP owners. NV might not drop S-3D gaming support but very likely not giving anything more for these DLPs from now on out, ie. Blueray 3D support.



If that ever happens, I will vote with my wallet and will immediatly sell all Nvidia related products on Ebay & Craigslist and be done with it and will, at my convenience, convince all people that I know to NOT buying any Nvidia products ever. Why ? because it won't be the first time Nv slap its buyers in the face and tell us that we are idiots to buy its products on shaky expectations.



Until then, I will remain appreciative of its S3D solution and its efforts of refraining from screwing us Samsung DLP owners too hard. /confused.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':confused:' />









[quote name='turls' post='1061143' date='May 24 2010, 01:30 PM']http://www.nvidia.com/object/3D_Vision_Requirements.html



If this has been discussed, I don't see it. This page changed greatly from the last time I checked it.



Ok, generic DLP was dumped. We've already seen support drop for months at a time, so I suspect if there is a major issue again, we may really be in trouble this time.



Also, what is it with the "Works with 3D Blu-Ray" column?? What is magical about the projectors that don't have the asterisk meaning you have to have a software solution? Is that because they come with a bundle? Because all BD playback is going to have to be with a software player isn't it?

Xeon X5675 hex cores @4.4 GHz, GTX 1070, win10 pro
i7 7700k 5GHz, RTX 2080, win10 pro
Benq 2720Z, w1070, Oculus Rift cv1, Samsung Odyssey+

#4
Posted 05/24/2010 09:39 PM   
[quote name='distant' post='1061202' date='May 24 2010, 09:39 PM']No it hasn't been talked about in this forum yet and it should be. This is definitely a bad sign for things to come for Samsung DLP owners. NV might not drop S-3D gaming support but very likely not giving anything more for these DLPs from now on out, ie. Blueray 3D support.

If that ever happens, I will vote with my wallet and will immediatly sell all Nvidia related products on Ebay & Craigslist and be done with it and will, at my convenience, convince all people that I know to NOT buying any Nvidia products ever. Why ? because it won't be the first time Nv slap its buyers in the face and tell us that we are idiots to buy its products on shaky expectations.

Until then, I will remain appreciative of its S3D solution and its efforts of refraining from screwing us Samsung DLP owners too hard. /confused.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':confused:' />[/quote]

I also don't understand why Samsung 2233RZ and Viewsonic 3D LCD's wont work with 3D BluRay ?
[quote name='distant' post='1061202' date='May 24 2010, 09:39 PM']No it hasn't been talked about in this forum yet and it should be. This is definitely a bad sign for things to come for Samsung DLP owners. NV might not drop S-3D gaming support but very likely not giving anything more for these DLPs from now on out, ie. Blueray 3D support.



If that ever happens, I will vote with my wallet and will immediatly sell all Nvidia related products on Ebay & Craigslist and be done with it and will, at my convenience, convince all people that I know to NOT buying any Nvidia products ever. Why ? because it won't be the first time Nv slap its buyers in the face and tell us that we are idiots to buy its products on shaky expectations.



Until then, I will remain appreciative of its S3D solution and its efforts of refraining from screwing us Samsung DLP owners too hard. /confused.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':confused:' />



I also don't understand why Samsung 2233RZ and Viewsonic 3D LCD's wont work with 3D BluRay ?

#5
Posted 05/25/2010 12:04 AM   
[quote name='distant' post='1061202' date='May 24 2010, 09:39 PM']No it hasn't been talked about in this forum yet and it should be. This is definitely a bad sign for things to come for Samsung DLP owners. NV might not drop S-3D gaming support but very likely not giving anything more for these DLPs from now on out, ie. Blueray 3D support.

If that ever happens, I will vote with my wallet and will immediatly sell all Nvidia related products on Ebay & Craigslist and be done with it and will, at my convenience, convince all people that I know to NOT buying any Nvidia products ever. Why ? because it won't be the first time Nv slap its buyers in the face and tell us that we are idiots to buy its products on shaky expectations.

Until then, I will remain appreciative of its S3D solution and its efforts of refraining from screwing us Samsung DLP owners too hard. /confused.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':confused:' />[/quote]

I also don't understand why Samsung 2233RZ and Viewsonic 3D LCD's wont work with 3D BluRay ?
[quote name='distant' post='1061202' date='May 24 2010, 09:39 PM']No it hasn't been talked about in this forum yet and it should be. This is definitely a bad sign for things to come for Samsung DLP owners. NV might not drop S-3D gaming support but very likely not giving anything more for these DLPs from now on out, ie. Blueray 3D support.



If that ever happens, I will vote with my wallet and will immediatly sell all Nvidia related products on Ebay & Craigslist and be done with it and will, at my convenience, convince all people that I know to NOT buying any Nvidia products ever. Why ? because it won't be the first time Nv slap its buyers in the face and tell us that we are idiots to buy its products on shaky expectations.



Until then, I will remain appreciative of its S3D solution and its efforts of refraining from screwing us Samsung DLP owners too hard. /confused.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':confused:' />



I also don't understand why Samsung 2233RZ and Viewsonic 3D LCD's wont work with 3D BluRay ?

#6
Posted 05/25/2010 12:04 AM   
It's no surprise : it has been known for some time now that the HDCP chips in these displays only work at 60Hz, and do not work at 120Hz. Without HDCP hollywood says no BluRay for you.
It's not Nvidia's fault... just annoying Nvidia didn't announce it straight away when they first proudly claimed BluRay3D support for 3D vision.
It's no surprise : it has been known for some time now that the HDCP chips in these displays only work at 60Hz, and do not work at 120Hz. Without HDCP hollywood says no BluRay for you.

It's not Nvidia's fault... just annoying Nvidia didn't announce it straight away when they first proudly claimed BluRay3D support for 3D vision.

Passive 3D forever
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2x Epson EH-TW3500 (1080p) + Linear Polarizers (SPAR)
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VNS Geobox501 signal converter

#7
Posted 05/25/2010 12:11 AM   
It's no surprise : it has been known for some time now that the HDCP chips in these displays only work at 60Hz, and do not work at 120Hz. Without HDCP hollywood says no BluRay for you.
It's not Nvidia's fault... just annoying Nvidia didn't announce it straight away when they first proudly claimed BluRay3D support for 3D vision.
It's no surprise : it has been known for some time now that the HDCP chips in these displays only work at 60Hz, and do not work at 120Hz. Without HDCP hollywood says no BluRay for you.

It's not Nvidia's fault... just annoying Nvidia didn't announce it straight away when they first proudly claimed BluRay3D support for 3D vision.

Passive 3D forever
110" DIY dual-projection system
2x Epson EH-TW3500 (1080p) + Linear Polarizers (SPAR)
XtremScreen Daylight 2.0
VNS Geobox501 signal converter

#8
Posted 05/25/2010 12:11 AM   
Looks like generic CRT mode has also been dropped. Nvidia, up to their old tricks once again!
Looks like generic CRT mode has also been dropped. Nvidia, up to their old tricks once again!
#9
Posted 05/25/2010 12:31 AM   
Looks like generic CRT mode has also been dropped. Nvidia, up to their old tricks once again!
Looks like generic CRT mode has also been dropped. Nvidia, up to their old tricks once again!
#10
Posted 05/25/2010 12:31 AM   
[quote name='BlackSharkfr' post='1061295' date='May 25 2010, 01:11 AM']It's no surprise : it has been known for some time now that the HDCP chips in these displays only work at 60Hz, and do not work at 120Hz. Without HDCP hollywood says no BluRay for you.
It's not Nvidia's fault... just annoying Nvidia didn't announce it straight away when they first proudly claimed BluRay3D support for 3D vision.[/quote]

I wish i'd known that before I bought the damn display...

Any way of getting around it?
[quote name='BlackSharkfr' post='1061295' date='May 25 2010, 01:11 AM']It's no surprise : it has been known for some time now that the HDCP chips in these displays only work at 60Hz, and do not work at 120Hz. Without HDCP hollywood says no BluRay for you.

It's not Nvidia's fault... just annoying Nvidia didn't announce it straight away when they first proudly claimed BluRay3D support for 3D vision.



I wish i'd known that before I bought the damn display...



Any way of getting around it?

#11
Posted 05/25/2010 01:09 AM   
[quote name='BlackSharkfr' post='1061295' date='May 25 2010, 01:11 AM']It's no surprise : it has been known for some time now that the HDCP chips in these displays only work at 60Hz, and do not work at 120Hz. Without HDCP hollywood says no BluRay for you.
It's not Nvidia's fault... just annoying Nvidia didn't announce it straight away when they first proudly claimed BluRay3D support for 3D vision.[/quote]

I wish i'd known that before I bought the damn display...

Any way of getting around it?
[quote name='BlackSharkfr' post='1061295' date='May 25 2010, 01:11 AM']It's no surprise : it has been known for some time now that the HDCP chips in these displays only work at 60Hz, and do not work at 120Hz. Without HDCP hollywood says no BluRay for you.

It's not Nvidia's fault... just annoying Nvidia didn't announce it straight away when they first proudly claimed BluRay3D support for 3D vision.



I wish i'd known that before I bought the damn display...



Any way of getting around it?

#12
Posted 05/25/2010 01:09 AM   
Wow, what a slap in the face as a Samsung DLP owner. I feel like a chump now cause I just recently purchased an internal blu-ray player and powerdvd10 in anticipation of 3d blu-ray. Money just pissed down the drain apparently. Why do you feel it necessary to flip the bird to your loyal, paying customers nvidia?
Wow, what a slap in the face as a Samsung DLP owner. I feel like a chump now cause I just recently purchased an internal blu-ray player and powerdvd10 in anticipation of 3d blu-ray. Money just pissed down the drain apparently. Why do you feel it necessary to flip the bird to your loyal, paying customers nvidia?

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#13
Posted 05/25/2010 01:25 AM   
Wow, what a slap in the face as a Samsung DLP owner. I feel like a chump now cause I just recently purchased an internal blu-ray player and powerdvd10 in anticipation of 3d blu-ray. Money just pissed down the drain apparently. Why do you feel it necessary to flip the bird to your loyal, paying customers nvidia?
Wow, what a slap in the face as a Samsung DLP owner. I feel like a chump now cause I just recently purchased an internal blu-ray player and powerdvd10 in anticipation of 3d blu-ray. Money just pissed down the drain apparently. Why do you feel it necessary to flip the bird to your loyal, paying customers nvidia?

Asus Maximus Hero VII
i7 4790k @ 4.8ghz
SLI MSI Gaming 980 @ 1.5ghz
16gb Gskill @ 2400mhz
2x Samsung 840 500gb
Corsair HX1000i
Custom water loop
un78hu9000 with 3dplay on checkerboard 1080p

#14
Posted 05/25/2010 01:25 AM   
[quote name='BlackSharkfr' post='1061295' date='May 24 2010, 05:11 PM']It's no surprise : it has been known for some time now that the HDCP chips in these displays only work at 60Hz, and do not work at 120Hz. Without HDCP hollywood says no BluRay for you.
It's not Nvidia's fault... just annoying Nvidia didn't announce it straight away when they first proudly claimed BluRay3D support for 3D vision.[/quote]

Im not sure about this. There should be a way for the Nvidia drivers to convert to a checkerboard and transmit a proper 60hz signal to the tv. The upcoming mitsubishi converter box for dlps is a good example of this.
[quote name='BlackSharkfr' post='1061295' date='May 24 2010, 05:11 PM']It's no surprise : it has been known for some time now that the HDCP chips in these displays only work at 60Hz, and do not work at 120Hz. Without HDCP hollywood says no BluRay for you.

It's not Nvidia's fault... just annoying Nvidia didn't announce it straight away when they first proudly claimed BluRay3D support for 3D vision.



Im not sure about this. There should be a way for the Nvidia drivers to convert to a checkerboard and transmit a proper 60hz signal to the tv. The upcoming mitsubishi converter box for dlps is a good example of this.

Asus Maximus Hero VII
i7 4790k @ 4.8ghz
SLI MSI Gaming 980 @ 1.5ghz
16gb Gskill @ 2400mhz
2x Samsung 840 500gb
Corsair HX1000i
Custom water loop
un78hu9000 with 3dplay on checkerboard 1080p

#15
Posted 05/25/2010 01:28 AM   
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