Quick passive 3D capable 4K tv inquiry
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lacuna - are you trying to sit too close to screen? How is the 3D as you move back? As I have mentioned before (to warn others), my 65UF9500 has a smaller 3D FOV than my 55UB9500 (and 55EF9500), due to its proportionately larger minimum viewing distance for good 3D. From my experience, for 3D viewing, it is better to get cheaper, smaller 55 in screen than 65 in versions, unless multiple people are going to routinely view screen...
lacuna - are you trying to sit too close to screen? How is the 3D as you move back? As I have mentioned before (to warn others), my 65UF9500 has a smaller 3D FOV than my 55UB9500 (and 55EF9500), due to its proportionately larger minimum viewing distance for good 3D. From my experience, for 3D viewing, it is better to get cheaper, smaller 55 in screen than 65 in versions, unless multiple people are going to routinely view screen...

#31
Posted 12/08/2016 02:41 PM   
I tried sitting between 2-4 meters, in 4 meters it gets a little bit better but still the same. Mine is 55 inch model, my previous LG was 47 inch and it was perfect even in 1 meter. Below images done with black-white sbs crosstalk test. White areas are the source of double images.
I tried sitting between 2-4 meters, in 4 meters it gets a little bit better but still the same. Mine is 55 inch model, my previous LG was 47 inch and it was perfect even in 1 meter. Below images done with black-white sbs crosstalk test. White areas are the source of double images.

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#32
Posted 12/08/2016 03:00 PM   
I went to a dealer to test the problem on an another 55UH850V, tried the black-white crosstalk test and bam, screen is uniform gray, not a single crosstalk issue. So it's not an UH series issue, just bad quality control. Still waiting for the RMA process...
I went to a dealer to test the problem on an another 55UH850V, tried the black-white crosstalk test and bam, screen is uniform gray, not a single crosstalk issue. So it's not an UH series issue, just bad quality control.

Still waiting for the RMA process...

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#33
Posted 12/09/2016 11:34 AM   
Same firmware number? Same exact color and input setting as you were using? Same glasses? They have had problems with glasses before. I wish my 1080P LG was view-able at less than 1 meter, but the screen door affect is horrendous on it, as well as the cross-talk at that distance. It looks great once you get back at least 2 meters.
Same firmware number? Same exact color and input setting as you were using? Same glasses? They have had problems with glasses before.

I wish my 1080P LG was view-able at less than 1 meter, but the screen door affect is horrendous on it, as well as the cross-talk at that distance. It looks great once you get back at least 2 meters.

#34
Posted 12/09/2016 01:16 PM   
Same firmware, same input (USB), same video, it's directly related to hardware, because on my TV adjusting color, changing input or changing picture mod doesn't effect crosstalk issue one bit, it's all there as seen in the upper pictures. I even tried different resolutions, not a single change. I have 3 sets of different brand glasses all looks the same. My TV's FPR filter is misaligned, misplaced or just faulty. I tried one full day with all the settings, possible combinations I can think of, no change.
Same firmware, same input (USB), same video, it's directly related to hardware, because on my TV adjusting color, changing input or changing picture mod doesn't effect crosstalk issue one bit, it's all there as seen in the upper pictures. I even tried different resolutions, not a single change. I have 3 sets of different brand glasses all looks the same.

My TV's FPR filter is misaligned, misplaced or just faulty. I tried one full day with all the settings, possible combinations I can think of, no change.

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#35
Posted 12/09/2016 01:38 PM   
That sucks, I hope you have better luck with the next display.
That sucks, I hope you have better luck with the next display.

#36
Posted 12/09/2016 02:09 PM   
I wonder if manufacturers like LG perform any type of 3D quality control/inspection for their products? They certainly ignore 3D data in their tech specs (beyond simply indicating active/passive, they should be expanded to include minimum viewing distance and crosstalk/ghosting extinction). Most sites like AVS forums rarely go beyond tests involving 3D blu-ray movies...
I wonder if manufacturers like LG perform any type of 3D quality control/inspection for their products? They certainly ignore 3D data in their tech specs (beyond simply indicating active/passive, they should be expanded to include minimum viewing distance and crosstalk/ghosting extinction). Most sites like AVS forums rarely go beyond tests involving 3D blu-ray movies...

#37
Posted 12/09/2016 03:40 PM   
Good news, after a stressful week, replacement TV (55UH850v) arrived today and it's very good, no serious issues so far. Enjoying the glory of S3D again. I think D-Man11's good luck spell worked, thanks [b]D-Man11[/b]. [b]@joker18[/b], TV's manual doesn't show which HDMI port supports YCbYCr 4:4:4, so I dumped from both HDMI 1 and 3 (2 is ARC) inputs. I don't know if it make any difference, but I also dumped with different color formats set from Nvidia Control Panel. Ultra HD Deep Color enabled for both inputs.
Good news, after a stressful week, replacement TV (55UH850v) arrived today and it's very good, no serious issues so far. Enjoying the glory of S3D again. I think D-Man11's good luck spell worked, thanks D-Man11.

@joker18, TV's manual doesn't show which HDMI port supports YCbYCr 4:4:4, so I dumped from both HDMI 1 and 3 (2 is ARC) inputs. I don't know if it make any difference, but I also dumped with different color formats set from Nvidia Control Panel. Ultra HD Deep Color enabled for both inputs.

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Samsung Pro 250 GB SSD, 4 TB WD Black (games)
Benq XL2720Z

#38
Posted 12/17/2016 04:35 PM   
Hi, I will take a look when I have some time.
Hi,
I will take a look when I have some time.

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#39
Posted 12/18/2016 07:29 PM   
If anyone thinking about buying a 2016 LG 55UH850v (8500 in US) series TV, here is some info: - There's a little ghosting in high contrast scenes as expected, but much better than my older LG 1080p 3D TV and my BenQ 3D Vision monitor. - TV's minimum 3D watching distance is around 1.3-1.2 meter. - Viewing angle is a little restrictive, your head must be at the level of center of the TV under 3 meters. If you are at the level of the top or the bottom 3D is still watchable but not perfect. - Best thing about this TV is low input lag, I tested many TV's at the dealer and this TV is one of the fast TVs, it's fast in GAME picture mode and/or PC input mode. Below numbers (taken from rtings.com/tv/reviews/lg/uh8500) feel accurate for me, actually it feels even faster. 1080p @ 60Hz - 26.9 ms 1080p With Interpolation - 121.7 ms 1080p @ 60Hz Outside Game Mode - 48.7 ms 1080p @ 60Hz @ 4:4:4 - 31.3 ms 4k @ 60Hz - 33.8 ms 4k @ 60Hz @ 4:4:4 - 45.6 ms 4k @ 60Hz + HDR - 36.8 ms - It has three 3D options, 2D-3D, SBS and T&B - Interleaved 3D automatically works only at 3840x2160 as most of the other 4K 3D TVs. 1080p or other resolutions needs third party solutions like 3DMigoto, Tridef and GeDoSaTo. - I'm not an expert but really loving the TV's 2D and 3D upscaling quality.
If anyone thinking about buying a 2016 LG 55UH850v (8500 in US) series TV, here is some info:

- There's a little ghosting in high contrast scenes as expected, but much better than my older LG 1080p 3D TV and my BenQ 3D Vision monitor.

- TV's minimum 3D watching distance is around 1.3-1.2 meter.

- Viewing angle is a little restrictive, your head must be at the level of center of the TV under 3 meters. If you are at the level of the top or the bottom 3D is still watchable but not perfect.

- Best thing about this TV is low input lag, I tested many TV's at the dealer and this TV is one of the fast TVs, it's fast in GAME picture mode and/or PC input mode. Below numbers (taken from rtings.com/tv/reviews/lg/uh8500) feel accurate for me, actually it feels even faster.

1080p @ 60Hz - 26.9 ms
1080p With Interpolation - 121.7 ms
1080p @ 60Hz Outside Game Mode - 48.7 ms
1080p @ 60Hz @ 4:4:4 - 31.3 ms
4k @ 60Hz - 33.8 ms
4k @ 60Hz @ 4:4:4 - 45.6 ms
4k @ 60Hz + HDR - 36.8 ms

- It has three 3D options, 2D-3D, SBS and T&B

- Interleaved 3D automatically works only at 3840x2160 as most of the other 4K 3D TVs. 1080p or other resolutions needs third party solutions like 3DMigoto, Tridef and GeDoSaTo.

- I'm not an expert but really loving the TV's 2D and 3D upscaling quality.

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Benq XL2720Z

#40
Posted 12/19/2016 09:10 PM   
i kind of set my already on the 49" model of 850V but how is the motion on these 850 line models ?
i kind of set my already on the 49" model of 850V but how is the motion on these 850 line models ?

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#41
Posted 12/20/2016 11:47 AM   
Again I'm not an expert but motion looks good for me in PC input. Less blurring than my previous LG TV, much smoother in games and movies. When watching TV, documentary or anime I'm using it's trumotion (Motion Interpolation) function and it works good. Selected "Clear Plus" option, less artifacts and more fluid than my previous TV. Clear Plus setting is different from other trumotion settings, it also darkens the image like BenQ's blur reduction with strobe lighting. Trumotion is off on PC mode. So if you want to use it, you must use other input tags.
Again I'm not an expert but motion looks good for me in PC input. Less blurring than my previous LG TV, much smoother in games and movies.

When watching TV, documentary or anime I'm using it's trumotion (Motion Interpolation) function and it works good. Selected "Clear Plus" option, less artifacts and more fluid than my previous TV. Clear Plus setting is different from other trumotion settings, it also darkens the image like BenQ's blur reduction with strobe lighting.

Trumotion is off on PC mode. So if you want to use it, you must use other input tags.

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#42
Posted 12/20/2016 12:55 PM   
[quote="lacuna"]Again I'm not an expert but motion looks good for me in PC input. Less blurring than my previous LG TV, much smoother in games and movies. When watching TV, documentary or anime I'm using it's trumotion (Motion Interpolation) function and it works good. Selected "Clear Plus" option, less artifacts and more fluid than my previous TV. Clear Plus setting is different from other trumotion settings, it also darkens the image like BenQ's blur reduction with strobe lighting. Trumotion is off on PC mode. So if you want to use it, you must use other input tags. [/quote] Great. Then its definetly a must to check this unit out. And i don't expect flawless performance but just Something Decent. It for living room daily use and maby gaming if my projector Setup does not fit my next address.
lacuna said:Again I'm not an expert but motion looks good for me in PC input. Less blurring than my previous LG TV, much smoother in games and movies.

When watching TV, documentary or anime I'm using it's trumotion (Motion Interpolation) function and it works good. Selected "Clear Plus" option, less artifacts and more fluid than my previous TV. Clear Plus setting is different from other trumotion settings, it also darkens the image like BenQ's blur reduction with strobe lighting.

Trumotion is off on PC mode. So if you want to use it, you must use other input tags.



Great. Then its definetly a must to check this unit out.
And i don't expect flawless performance but just Something
Decent. It for living room daily use and maby gaming if my projector
Setup does not fit my next address.

CoreX9 Custom watercooling (valkswagen polo radiator)
I7-8700k@stock
TitanX pascal with shitty stock cooler
Win7/10
Video: Passive 3D fullhd 3D@60hz/channel Denon x1200w /Hc5 x 2 Geobox501->eeColorBoxes->polarizers/omega filttersCustom made silverscreen
Ocupation: Enterprenior.Painting/surfacing/constructions
Interests/skills:
3D gaming,3D movies, 3D printing,Drums, Bass and guitar.
Suomi - FINLAND - perkele

#43
Posted 12/20/2016 03:24 PM   
[quote="lacuna"]I saw the post below and feel a little relieved now. I will give a definite answer when the TV has arrived. [quote="CeeJayII"]I decided to upgrade to a LG 60UH8500 4K 3D display. My 49 incher worked fine but this new display is giving me ghosting issues. Did anyone ever resolve these? If I play Trine 3 in top bottom 3D, I have almost 0 ghosting. When I try 3D vision with EDID override the ghosting is quite a bit greater. Is there a solution for this? I even tried creating my own EDID to no avail. [/quote] [/quote] I resolved my issue by using Innuendo's original 4k 3D EDID. For some reason none of the others worked for me.
lacuna said:I saw the post below and feel a little relieved now. I will give a definite answer when the TV has arrived.

CeeJayII said:I decided to upgrade to a LG 60UH8500 4K 3D display. My 49 incher worked fine but this new display is giving me ghosting issues. Did anyone ever resolve these? If I play Trine 3 in top bottom 3D, I have almost 0 ghosting. When I try 3D vision with EDID override the ghosting is quite a bit greater. Is there a solution for this? I even tried creating my own EDID to no avail.


I resolved my issue by using Innuendo's original 4k 3D EDID. For some reason none of the others worked for me.

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#44
Posted 12/21/2016 01:49 AM   
[quote="lacuna"]Good news, after a stressful week, replacement TV (55UH850v) arrived today and it's very good, no serious issues so far. Enjoying the glory of S3D again. I think D-Man11's good luck spell worked, thanks [b]D-Man11[/b]. [b]@joker18[/b], TV's manual doesn't show which HDMI port supports YCbYCr 4:4:4, so I dumped from both HDMI 1 and 3 (2 is ARC) inputs. I don't know if it make any difference, but I also dumped with different color formats set from Nvidia Control Panel. Ultra HD Deep Color enabled for both inputs. [/quote] The one from HDMI1 works properly. No color ghosting.
lacuna said:Good news, after a stressful week, replacement TV (55UH850v) arrived today and it's very good, no serious issues so far. Enjoying the glory of S3D again. I think D-Man11's good luck spell worked, thanks D-Man11.

@joker18, TV's manual doesn't show which HDMI port supports YCbYCr 4:4:4, so I dumped from both HDMI 1 and 3 (2 is ARC) inputs. I don't know if it make any difference, but I also dumped with different color formats set from Nvidia Control Panel. Ultra HD Deep Color enabled for both inputs.



The one from HDMI1 works properly. No color ghosting.

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#45
Posted 12/25/2016 08:34 PM   
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