Question on setting up 3D vision
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[quote="D-Man11"]I edited my post above, you might not have seen where I mentioned. You best bet if you want 3D Vision is to get the Asus VG248QE and use the Display Port connection. It's the cheapest 3D Vision monitor with a Display Port connection. Have a look at the list of community patches http://helixmod.blogspot.com/2013/10/game-list-automatically-updated.html If you love gaming, 3D will take it to another lever. Tis not a gimmick! [/quote] One final question then. This monitor has display port and my laptop has a mini display port. For this will a simple mini DP port to DP port cable work?
D-Man11 said:I edited my post above, you might not have seen where I mentioned.

You best bet if you want 3D Vision is to get the Asus VG248QE and use the Display Port connection.

It's the cheapest 3D Vision monitor with a Display Port connection.

Have a look at the list of community patches


http://helixmod.blogspot.com/2013/10/game-list-automatically-updated.html


If you love gaming, 3D will take it to another lever. Tis not a gimmick!



One final question then. This monitor has display port and my laptop has a mini display port. For this will a simple mini DP port to DP port cable work?

#16
Posted 03/04/2016 09:11 PM   
[quote="D-Man11"]To use Dual Link DVI connection with that laptop, you'll need to use an "ACTIVE" Display port adapter capable of 300 at least.[/quote] Sorry that should say 300 MHZ. MHz is the pixel clock. For example 1920x1080P@60Hz has a pixel clock of 148.5000 MHz. Because 3D sends a right and left image for each frame, the bandwidth roughly doubles to 1920x1080P@120Hz = 285.5424 MHz. So the adapter needs to be capable of 300Mhz. The typical 3D adapters offer 330MHz.
D-Man11 said:To use Dual Link DVI connection with that laptop, you'll need to use an "ACTIVE" Display port adapter capable of 300 at least.


Sorry that should say 300 MHZ. MHz is the pixel clock.

For example 1920x1080P@60Hz has a pixel clock of 148.5000 MHz. Because 3D sends a right and left image for each frame, the bandwidth roughly doubles to 1920x1080P@120Hz = 285.5424 MHz.

So the adapter needs to be capable of 300Mhz. The typical 3D adapters offer 330MHz.

#17
Posted 03/04/2016 09:18 PM   
http://www.geforce.com/hardware/notebook-gpus/geforce-gtx-770m/specifications I've never used Display Port for 3D Vision, so I'm not certain, but I do believe that the 770M is capable of 300 MHz via it's Display Port out. I'm almost positive that any Display Port on an Nvidia GPU is capable of 1920x1080P@120Hz. [quote="Razor_2020"] One final question then. This monitor has display port and my laptop has a mini display port. For this will a simple mini DP port to DP port cable work?[/quote] I don't think anyone make those. There are mini to full size adapters available cheap.
http://www.geforce.com/hardware/notebook-gpus/geforce-gtx-770m/specifications


I've never used Display Port for 3D Vision, so I'm not certain, but I do believe that the 770M is capable of 300 MHz via it's Display Port out. I'm almost positive that any Display Port on an Nvidia GPU is capable of 1920x1080P@120Hz.


Razor_2020 said: One final question then. This monitor has display port and my laptop has a mini display port. For this will a simple mini DP port to DP port cable work?


I don't think anyone make those. There are mini to full size adapters available cheap.

#18
Posted 03/04/2016 09:27 PM   
[quote="Razor_2020"][quote="D-Man11"]I edited my post above, you might not have seen where I mentioned. You best bet if you want 3D Vision is to get the Asus VG248QE and use the Display Port connection. It's the cheapest 3D Vision monitor with a Display Port connection. Have a look at the list of community patches http://helixmod.blogspot.com/2013/10/game-list-automatically-updated.html If you love gaming, 3D will take it to another lever. Tis not a gimmick! [/quote] One final question then. This monitor has display port and my laptop has a mini display port. For this will a simple mini DP port to DP port cable work?[/quote] Yes a MINI-DP to DP adapter will work;) You have nothing to worry about there;) @D-Man11: Yes any GTX Gpu is capable of running 1920x1080@120Hz and 3D Vision. Remember I still use my GT555M from time to time;) and that is over DP;)
Razor_2020 said:
D-Man11 said:I edited my post above, you might not have seen where I mentioned.

You best bet if you want 3D Vision is to get the Asus VG248QE and use the Display Port connection.

It's the cheapest 3D Vision monitor with a Display Port connection.

Have a look at the list of community patches

http://helixmod.blogspot.com/2013/10/game-list-automatically-updated.html

If you love gaming, 3D will take it to another lever. Tis not a gimmick!



One final question then. This monitor has display port and my laptop has a mini display port. For this will a simple mini DP port to DP port cable work?


Yes a MINI-DP to DP adapter will work;) You have nothing to worry about there;)

@D-Man11: Yes any GTX Gpu is capable of running 1920x1080@120Hz and 3D Vision. Remember I still use my GT555M from time to time;) and that is over DP;)

1x Palit RTX 2080Ti Pro Gaming OC(watercooled and overclocked to hell)
3x 3D Vision Ready Asus VG278HE monitors (5760x1080).
Intel i9 9900K (overclocked to 5.3 and watercooled ofc).
Asus Maximus XI Hero Mobo.
16 GB Team Group T-Force Dark Pro DDR4 @ 3600.
Lots of Disks:
- Raid 0 - 256GB Sandisk Extreme SSD.
- Raid 0 - WD Black - 2TB.
- SanDisk SSD PLUS 480 GB.
- Intel 760p 256GB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD.
Creative Sound Blaster Z.
Windows 10 x64 Pro.
etc


My website with my fixes and OpenGL to 3D Vision wrapper:
http://3dsurroundgaming.com

(If you like some of the stuff that I've done and want to donate something, you can do it with PayPal at tavyhome@gmail.com)

#19
Posted 03/04/2016 09:34 PM   
Really really Thanks a lot guys. I will go for a monitor exchange. I just checked the specs of Asus VG248QE. It clearly says 3D vision supported on DVI and DP. (on their website - "The VG248QE is compatible with the NVIDIA 3D Vision® 2 kit** through DisplayPort and dual-link DVI,") I just hope the monitor exchange will go smooth.
Really really Thanks a lot guys. I will go for a monitor exchange. I just checked the specs of Asus VG248QE. It clearly says 3D vision supported on DVI and DP. (on their website - "The VG248QE is compatible with the NVIDIA 3D Vision® 2 kit** through DisplayPort and dual-link DVI,")

I just hope the monitor exchange will go smooth.

#20
Posted 03/04/2016 09:40 PM   
@helifax I figured as much, I can only remember it being discussed when BenQ launched the first monitor that has a Display Port connection for 3D Vision. The XL2720T or XL2720TE, I forget which one was first.
@helifax

I figured as much, I can only remember it being discussed when BenQ launched the first monitor that has a Display Port connection for 3D Vision. The XL2720T or XL2720TE, I forget which one was first.

#21
Posted 03/04/2016 09:41 PM   
[quote="Razor_2020"]http://www.amazon.de/Acer-Predator-GN246HLBbid-Monitor-Reaktionszeit/dp/B00IG0Z0HY The monitor spec says it supports 3D over HDMI 1.4 interface. That's the reason why I bought this. I also bought nvidia 3D vision 2 glasses.[/quote] This is incorrect. In order for it to have HDMI 1.4 3D support, it would require an internal/integrated emitter. The external Nvidia emiiter only works with Nvidia's stereoscopic drivers. So you couldn't hook up something like the PlayStation 3 and play in 3D because the external emitter would not turn on.
Razor_2020 said:http://www.amazon.de/Acer-Predator-GN246HLBbid-Monitor-Reaktionszeit/dp/B00IG0Z0HY

The monitor spec says it supports 3D over HDMI 1.4 interface. That's the reason why I bought this. I also bought nvidia 3D vision 2 glasses.


This is incorrect. In order for it to have HDMI 1.4 3D support, it would require an internal/integrated emitter. The external Nvidia emiiter only works with Nvidia's stereoscopic drivers. So you couldn't hook up something like the PlayStation 3 and play in 3D because the external emitter would not turn on.

#22
Posted 03/04/2016 09:48 PM   
One more question since my ACER GN246HL does not even have a port to connect the IR emitter. So even if I had a DVI out on my laptop how would the 3D vision kit work. I have the same question with Asus VG248QE. I saw pictures of this monitor even this does not have a connector to connect the emitter.
One more question since my ACER GN246HL does not even have a port to connect the IR emitter. So even if I had a DVI out on my laptop how would the 3D vision kit work.

I have the same question with Asus VG248QE. I saw pictures of this monitor even this does not have a connector to connect the emitter.

#23
Posted 03/04/2016 10:07 PM   
[quote="Razor_2020"]One more question since my ACER GN246HL does not even have a port to connect the IR emitter. So even if I had a DVI out on my laptop how would the 3D vision kit work. I have the same question with Asus VG248QE. I saw pictures of this monitor even this does not have a connector to connect the emitter.[/quote] The emitter is connected to the PC via USB port. That is it;)
Razor_2020 said:One more question since my ACER GN246HL does not even have a port to connect the IR emitter. So even if I had a DVI out on my laptop how would the 3D vision kit work.

I have the same question with Asus VG248QE. I saw pictures of this monitor even this does not have a connector to connect the emitter.


The emitter is connected to the PC via USB port. That is it;)

1x Palit RTX 2080Ti Pro Gaming OC(watercooled and overclocked to hell)
3x 3D Vision Ready Asus VG278HE monitors (5760x1080).
Intel i9 9900K (overclocked to 5.3 and watercooled ofc).
Asus Maximus XI Hero Mobo.
16 GB Team Group T-Force Dark Pro DDR4 @ 3600.
Lots of Disks:
- Raid 0 - 256GB Sandisk Extreme SSD.
- Raid 0 - WD Black - 2TB.
- SanDisk SSD PLUS 480 GB.
- Intel 760p 256GB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD.
Creative Sound Blaster Z.
Windows 10 x64 Pro.
etc


My website with my fixes and OpenGL to 3D Vision wrapper:
http://3dsurroundgaming.com

(If you like some of the stuff that I've done and want to donate something, you can do it with PayPal at tavyhome@gmail.com)

#24
Posted 03/04/2016 10:09 PM   
[quote="helifax"][quote="Razor_2020"]One more question since my ACER GN246HL does not even have a port to connect the IR emitter. So even if I had a DVI out on my laptop how would the 3D vision kit work. I have the same question with Asus VG248QE. I saw pictures of this monitor even this does not have a connector to connect the emitter.[/quote] The emitter is connected to the PC via USB port. That is it;)[/quote] Oh the second connection is not needed!
helifax said:
Razor_2020 said:One more question since my ACER GN246HL does not even have a port to connect the IR emitter. So even if I had a DVI out on my laptop how would the 3D vision kit work.

I have the same question with Asus VG248QE. I saw pictures of this monitor even this does not have a connector to connect the emitter.


The emitter is connected to the PC via USB port. That is it;)


Oh the second connection is not needed!

#25
Posted 03/04/2016 10:11 PM   
It really depends on where you are in the world and what's available at what price, I suggested the ASUS VG248QE because it is typically the lowest priced certified 3D Vision monitor with Display Port. But there are others from BenQ, Acer, etc.. that also offer 3D Vision via display port.
It really depends on where you are in the world and what's available at what price,

I suggested the ASUS VG248QE because it is typically the lowest priced certified 3D Vision monitor with Display Port.

But there are others from BenQ, Acer, etc.. that also offer 3D Vision via display port.

#26
Posted 03/04/2016 10:12 PM   
[quote="Razor_2020"]Hello everyone, 1. There is no 3D sync port. There is one port that I don't know what it is for but it is not as the same connector as the cable I got from nvidia kit.[/quote] As helifax said, the emitter uses a USB driver. It is packaged in the regular drivers that you always download. The only time that the extra sync cable is used is if you are connecting a Mitsubishi DLP 3D HDTV. It is also used with certain models of Quadro GPUs Make sure to tell your friend with the Samsung about http://helixmod.blogspot.com/2013/10/game-list-automatically-updated.html Also tell him to check the forums, depending on the model, he might be able to use checkerboard for his format input.
Razor_2020 said:Hello everyone,


1. There is no 3D sync port. There is one port that I don't know what it is for but it is not as the same connector as the cable I got from nvidia kit.


As helifax said, the emitter uses a USB driver. It is packaged in the regular drivers that you always download.

The only time that the extra sync cable is used is if you are connecting a Mitsubishi DLP 3D HDTV.

It is also used with certain models of Quadro GPUs

Make sure to tell your friend with the Samsung about http://helixmod.blogspot.com/2013/10/game-list-automatically-updated.html


Also tell him to check the forums, depending on the model, he might be able to use checkerboard for his format input.

#27
Posted 03/05/2016 12:37 AM   
One thing that hasn't been mentioned - the 770M could struggle a bit in newer games+3D. You have to render every frame twice (once for each eye), so your framerate will take a ~50% hit.
One thing that hasn't been mentioned - the 770M could struggle a bit in newer games+3D. You have to render every frame twice (once for each eye), so your framerate will take a ~50% hit.

#28
Posted 03/05/2016 04:40 AM   
I just found this link. http://www.nvidia.com/object/3d-vision-displays.html Under features if you choose HDMI 1.4 3D support. My monitor comes on the list. I don't understand why they write this when I can't set it up.
I just found this link.


http://www.nvidia.com/object/3d-vision-displays.html


Under features if you choose HDMI 1.4 3D support. My monitor comes on the list. I don't understand why they write this when I can't set it up.

#29
Posted 03/05/2016 07:03 AM   
First off, HDMI 1.4 support simply allows those monitors to be used with a PS3 or stand-alone Blue-ray player for 3D. It does not allow them to be used with 3D Vision via a HDMI connection for stereoscopic gaming. Also note what the other monitors have listed that your current model does not, an "integrated emitter" An ""integrated emitter"" has software loaded onto the monitor that can operate the emitter independently of a PC. Nvidia's "external emitter" needs a PC with the USB drivers loaded in order for it to operate. It "can not" function without a PC.
First off, HDMI 1.4 support simply allows those monitors to be used with a PS3 or stand-alone Blue-ray player for 3D.

It does not allow them to be used with 3D Vision via a HDMI connection for stereoscopic gaming.

Also note what the other monitors have listed that your current model does not, an "integrated emitter"

An ""integrated emitter"" has software loaded onto the monitor that can operate the emitter independently of a PC.

Nvidia's "external emitter" needs a PC with the USB drivers loaded in order for it to operate. It "can not" function without a PC.

#30
Posted 03/05/2016 07:50 AM   
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