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[quote="whyme466"]OLED 50, Contrast 90, Brightness 55, Sharpness 0, Color 60...[/quote] thank you. Very good picture for 3D with this settings )
whyme466 said:OLED 50, Contrast 90, Brightness 55, Sharpness 0, Color 60...

thank you. Very good picture for 3D with this settings )

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Posted 01/20/2017 06:40 PM   
[quote="Conan481"]...The only issue that I think may be related to the 2016 OLED is that every half hour or so the TV swaps eyes on me and I have to toggle the 3D on the TV on then off and it goes back to normal.[/quote] I'm not sure if this is the same issue or not, but on my 2016 LG OLED55C6P TV I kept getting the eye swapping thing (probably more often than you're suggesting). I [i]think[/i] I fixed it like this: IN TV SETTINGS: Picture > OLED Panel Settings > Screen Shift (turn off) The eye swap thing hasn't happened to me since doing this. However, I've only been testing games for 15-20 minutes at a time over the past two days. So, it may turn out that this issue pops back up over time for me. While I was thinking about it, I thought I'd post. Also, I put my complete process of getting the 2016 LG OLED55C6P TV working for 3D gaming in another thread here: [url]https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/943900/3d-vision/search-information-about-edid-for-3dvision-on-lg-oled-4k-55ef950v-55ef9500-/6/?offset=88#5069058[/url] Seemed like it might be helpful for anyone happening on this thread.
Conan481 said:...The only issue that I think may be related to the 2016 OLED is that every half hour or so the TV swaps eyes on me and I have to toggle the 3D on the TV on then off and it goes back to normal.


I'm not sure if this is the same issue or not, but on my 2016 LG OLED55C6P TV I kept getting the eye swapping thing (probably more often than you're suggesting). I think I fixed it like this:

IN TV SETTINGS: Picture > OLED Panel Settings > Screen Shift (turn off)

The eye swap thing hasn't happened to me since doing this. However, I've only been testing games for 15-20 minutes at a time over the past two days. So, it may turn out that this issue pops back up over time for me. While I was thinking about it, I thought I'd post.

Also, I put my complete process of getting the 2016 LG OLED55C6P TV working for 3D gaming in another thread here: https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/943900/3d-vision/search-information-about-edid-for-3dvision-on-lg-oled-4k-55ef950v-55ef9500-/6/?offset=88#5069058

Seemed like it might be helpful for anyone happening on this thread.

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Posted 01/27/2017 05:33 AM   
[quote="SoundBlstr"][quote="Conan481"]...The only issue that I think may be related to the 2016 OLED is that every half hour or so the TV swaps eyes on me and I have to toggle the 3D on the TV on then off and it goes back to normal.[/quote] I'm not sure if this is the same issue or not, but on my 2016 LG OLED55C6P TV I kept getting the eye swapping thing (probably more often than you're suggesting). I [i]think[/i] I fixed it like this: IN TV SETTINGS: Picture > OLED Panel Settings > Screen Shift (turn off) The eye swap thing hasn't happened to me since doing this. However, I've only been testing games for 15-20 minutes at a time over the past two days. So, it may turn out that this issue pops back up over time for me. While I was thinking about it, I thought I'd post. Also, I put my complete process of getting the 2016 LG OLED55C6P TV working for 3D gaming in another thread here: [url]https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/943900/3d-vision/search-information-about-edid-for-3dvision-on-lg-oled-4k-55ef950v-55ef9500-/6/?offset=88#5069058[/url] Seemed like it might be helpful for anyone happening on this thread.[/quote] Awesome. I'll try it when I hook up my 65" tomorrow. However I noticed that the swap usually happens 3xaxtly after 30 min for me. So maybe you're just not playing long enough. Either way hopefully your setting is a fix.
SoundBlstr said:
Conan481 said:...The only issue that I think may be related to the 2016 OLED is that every half hour or so the TV swaps eyes on me and I have to toggle the 3D on the TV on then off and it goes back to normal.


I'm not sure if this is the same issue or not, but on my 2016 LG OLED55C6P TV I kept getting the eye swapping thing (probably more often than you're suggesting). I think I fixed it like this:

IN TV SETTINGS: Picture > OLED Panel Settings > Screen Shift (turn off)

The eye swap thing hasn't happened to me since doing this. However, I've only been testing games for 15-20 minutes at a time over the past two days. So, it may turn out that this issue pops back up over time for me. While I was thinking about it, I thought I'd post.

Also, I put my complete process of getting the 2016 LG OLED55C6P TV working for 3D gaming in another thread here: https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/943900/3d-vision/search-information-about-edid-for-3dvision-on-lg-oled-4k-55ef950v-55ef9500-/6/?offset=88#5069058

Seemed like it might be helpful for anyone happening on this thread.


Awesome. I'll try it when I hook up my 65" tomorrow. However I noticed that the swap usually happens 3xaxtly after 30 min for me. So maybe you're just not playing long enough. Either way hopefully your setting is a fix.

Posted 01/27/2017 06:18 AM   
SoundBlstr - very interesting. My older 55EF9500 does NOT have this OLED control setting - Screen Shift must be something added in 2016 model. It sounds like you found the source of the eye swapping (some type of asynchronous operation in 3D mode - LG may not even be aware)... How do you like the display? Good to know that ALL LG models appear to work with EDID mod.
SoundBlstr - very interesting. My older 55EF9500 does NOT have this OLED control setting - Screen Shift must be something added in 2016 model. It sounds like you found the source of the eye swapping (some type of asynchronous operation in 3D mode - LG may not even be aware)...

How do you like the display? Good to know that ALL LG models appear to work with EDID mod.

Posted 01/27/2017 01:38 PM   
[quote="whyme466"]SoundBlstr - very interesting. My older 55EF9500 does NOT have this OLED control setting - Screen Shift must be something added in 2016 model. It sounds like you found the source of the eye swapping (some type of asynchronous operation in 3D mode - LG may not even be aware)... How do you like the display? Good to know that ALL LG models appear to work with EDID mod.[/quote] So far, I'm blown away by the display! I was worried after day 1, when I had trouble getting 4:4:4 to work and the EDID fixes seemed to not work. Plus, the ghosting with reds/blues I experienced (when forcing line interlacing in Trine 2) along with what I found in these forums about 2016 models giving people trouble...I started getting pretty pessimistic about my chances. Without 3D gaming, it wouldn't have been worth the price, even with the amazing 2D and color. Came back fresh the next day, and fortunately happened to have an extra HDMI cable that worked immediately for 4:4:4, which resolved the red/blue ghosting. The HDMI cable thing seemed like a long shot at the time. Also, the next EDID driver I tried worked. The color richness and pixel density takes 3D games (and 2D, really) to the next level. I've probably never been more pleased with a purchase like this. Puts my 46-inch Vizio 1080p experience to shame, really. Now, I'm just hoping the TV lasts. It's a nightmare thinking of going back to 2D gaming. Back in the days of Dragon Age Inquisition, I sometimes would give up getting it to work and start playing in 2D and (ironically) it gave me a sort of motion sickness. Now that my eyes are accustomed to seeing 3D in actual 3D, flattening it back down is really jarring.
whyme466 said:SoundBlstr - very interesting. My older 55EF9500 does NOT have this OLED control setting - Screen Shift must be something added in 2016 model. It sounds like you found the source of the eye swapping (some type of asynchronous operation in 3D mode - LG may not even be aware)...

How do you like the display? Good to know that ALL LG models appear to work with EDID mod.


So far, I'm blown away by the display!

I was worried after day 1, when I had trouble getting 4:4:4 to work and the EDID fixes seemed to not work. Plus, the ghosting with reds/blues I experienced (when forcing line interlacing in Trine 2) along with what I found in these forums about 2016 models giving people trouble...I started getting pretty pessimistic about my chances. Without 3D gaming, it wouldn't have been worth the price, even with the amazing 2D and color.

Came back fresh the next day, and fortunately happened to have an extra HDMI cable that worked immediately for 4:4:4, which resolved the red/blue ghosting. The HDMI cable thing seemed like a long shot at the time. Also, the next EDID driver I tried worked.

The color richness and pixel density takes 3D games (and 2D, really) to the next level. I've probably never been more pleased with a purchase like this. Puts my 46-inch Vizio 1080p experience to shame, really.

Now, I'm just hoping the TV lasts. It's a nightmare thinking of going back to 2D gaming. Back in the days of Dragon Age Inquisition, I sometimes would give up getting it to work and start playing in 2D and (ironically) it gave me a sort of motion sickness. Now that my eyes are accustomed to seeing 3D in actual 3D, flattening it back down is really jarring.

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Posted 01/27/2017 11:58 PM   
Sounds like Screen Shift is one of the new settings to help minimze OLED image retention and burn-in, by shifting pixels to the left (at some unknown time, possibly also swapping L/R eyes). Definitely sounds like a setting to disable for good 3D viewing (better to turn down brightness, if necessary)...
Sounds like Screen Shift is one of the new settings to help minimze OLED image retention and burn-in, by shifting pixels to the left (at some unknown time, possibly also swapping L/R eyes). Definitely sounds like a setting to disable for good 3D viewing (better to turn down brightness, if necessary)...

Posted 01/28/2017 02:17 PM   
Hello, first of, I'd like to say I am very happy that this community around nvidia 3d vision exists, I could not have experienced 3d gaming on my lg tv this well otherwise. I am very greatful. I have a lg LED 3dtv that looks really nice to me in 3D. It's only 1080p and not an OLED. It's an older model. I used an Acer HR274H EDID override, and it looks fine but has some ghosting, and the refresh rate is only 60hz. So I was wondering if it might need an upgrade to OLED with optional 4k, and a refreshrate upgrade was also rather alluring. I went to a store with my gaming laptop, which is abit outdated by now, it has a 770m graphics card, but I tested it with old skyrim on my current tv and it worked. I have a desktop at home, but it's way too big and heavy to drag to this store. Anyways, I tried my laptop there with the LG55OLEDE6V, but it didn't go so well, I saw that the driver from my old TV was being applied to the new TV as well, but the TV didn't display 3D, just double vision. After that I tried the EDID referred to by SoundBlstr, that resulted in a weird screen with lines through it. I saw no interleaved option either in the 3D menu of the TV. Any ideas what I did wrong? The TV looked bad too, it didn't seem worth it to me after what I had seen there, although the store probably had put it at bad settings.
Hello, first of, I'd like to say I am very happy that this community around nvidia 3d vision exists, I could not have experienced 3d gaming on my lg tv this well otherwise. I am very greatful.

I have a lg LED 3dtv that looks really nice to me in 3D. It's only 1080p and not an OLED. It's an older model. I used an Acer HR274H EDID override, and it looks fine but has some ghosting, and the refresh rate is only 60hz. So I was wondering if it might need an upgrade to OLED with optional 4k, and a refreshrate upgrade was also rather alluring. I went to a store with my gaming laptop, which is abit outdated by now, it has a 770m graphics card, but I tested it with old skyrim on my current tv and it worked. I have a desktop at home, but it's way too big and heavy to drag to this store. Anyways, I tried my laptop there with the LG55OLEDE6V, but it didn't go so well, I saw that the driver from my old TV was being applied to the new TV as well, but the TV didn't display 3D, just double vision. After that I tried the EDID referred to by SoundBlstr, that resulted in a weird screen with lines through it. I saw no interleaved option either in the 3D menu of the TV.

Any ideas what I did wrong? The TV looked bad too, it didn't seem worth it to me after what I had seen there, although the store probably had put it at bad settings.

Posted 01/29/2017 05:14 AM   
With 4K 3D gaming, you will need a new GPU - I suggest at least 1080 (1080 SLI would be better). I am using Pascal Titan X, as a point of reference. You will need 4K certified HDMI cable, also.
With 4K 3D gaming, you will need a new GPU - I suggest at least 1080 (1080 SLI would be better). I am using Pascal Titan X, as a point of reference. You will need 4K certified HDMI cable, also.

Posted 01/29/2017 05:53 AM   
[quote="whyme466"]With 4K 3D gaming, you will need a new GPU - I suggest at least 1080 (1080 SLI would be better). I am using Pascal Titan X, as a point of reference. You will need 4K certified HDMI cable, also.[/quote] I have a gtx 1080 with my desktop, I brought my laptop so that I could test the driver override, but it didn't work for me. I probably did something wrong though. I was thinking I could use 4K for 2D gaming and when I find a game that works more nicely with 3D, I'd just switch to 1080p 3D.
whyme466 said:With 4K 3D gaming, you will need a new GPU - I suggest at least 1080 (1080 SLI would be better). I am using Pascal Titan X, as a point of reference. You will need 4K certified HDMI cable, also.


I have a gtx 1080 with my desktop, I brought my laptop so that I could test the driver override, but it didn't work for me. I probably did something wrong though. I was thinking I could use 4K for 2D gaming and when I find a game that works more nicely with 3D, I'd just switch to 1080p 3D.

Posted 01/29/2017 06:23 AM   
[quote="Usodoni"]Hello, first of, I'd like to say I am very happy that this community around nvidia 3d vision exists, I could not have experienced 3d gaming on my lg tv this well otherwise. I am very greatful. I have a lg LED 3dtv that looks really nice to me in 3D. It's only 1080p and not an OLED. It's an older model. I used an Acer HR274H EDID override, and it looks fine but has some ghosting, and the refresh rate is only 60hz. So I was wondering if it might need an upgrade to OLED with optional 4k, and a refreshrate upgrade was also rather alluring. I went to a store with my gaming laptop, which is abit outdated by now, it has a 770m graphics card, but I tested it with old skyrim on my current tv and it worked. I have a desktop at home, but it's way too big and heavy to drag to this store. Anyways, I tried my laptop there with the LG55OLEDE6V, but it didn't go so well, I saw that the driver from my old TV was being applied to the new TV as well, but the TV didn't display 3D, just double vision. After that I tried the EDID referred to by SoundBlstr, that resulted in a weird screen with lines through it. I saw no interleaved option either in the 3D menu of the TV. Any ideas what I did wrong? The TV looked bad too, it didn't seem worth it to me after what I had seen there, although the store probably had put it at bad settings.[/quote] Gtx 770m doesn't have HDMI 2.0 which you need for 4K, this is the problem.
Usodoni said:Hello, first of, I'd like to say I am very happy that this community around nvidia 3d vision exists, I could not have experienced 3d gaming on my lg tv this well otherwise. I am very greatful.

I have a lg LED 3dtv that looks really nice to me in 3D. It's only 1080p and not an OLED. It's an older model. I used an Acer HR274H EDID override, and it looks fine but has some ghosting, and the refresh rate is only 60hz. So I was wondering if it might need an upgrade to OLED with optional 4k, and a refreshrate upgrade was also rather alluring. I went to a store with my gaming laptop, which is abit outdated by now, it has a 770m graphics card, but I tested it with old skyrim on my current tv and it worked. I have a desktop at home, but it's way too big and heavy to drag to this store. Anyways, I tried my laptop there with the LG55OLEDE6V, but it didn't go so well, I saw that the driver from my old TV was being applied to the new TV as well, but the TV didn't display 3D, just double vision. After that I tried the EDID referred to by SoundBlstr, that resulted in a weird screen with lines through it. I saw no interleaved option either in the 3D menu of the TV.

Any ideas what I did wrong? The TV looked bad too, it didn't seem worth it to me after what I had seen there, although the store probably had put it at bad settings.


Gtx 770m doesn't have HDMI 2.0 which you need for 4K, this is the problem.

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Posted 01/29/2017 06:33 AM   
[quote="joker18"] Gtx 770m doesn't have HDMI 2.0 which you need for 4K, this is the problem.[/quote] Hey thanks, that must have been it with the 4k driver override, but I tried the old normal driver too. Is that supposed to work? Or is the 4k override the only driver that works on 2016 TVs?
joker18 said:

Gtx 770m doesn't have HDMI 2.0 which you need for 4K, this is the problem.


Hey thanks, that must have been it with the 4k driver override, but I tried the old normal driver too. Is that supposed to work? Or is the 4k override the only driver that works on 2016 TVs?

Posted 01/29/2017 11:31 AM   
joker18 means your laptop hardware GPU is limited to HDMI 1.4, so it will never display a 4K (HDMI 2.0) image/video. This is NOT a software driver problem... Great idea to test TVs at store with laptop, though! 1080p (HDMI 1.4) 3D high contrast 3D pictures/video can be used to compare ghosting among sets you are considering - and to determine the TV's minimum 3D viewing distance (where 3D is good over entire screen area). These performance areas, along with input lag, are never mentioned in TV tech specs. You would probably need 3DTV Play to host this 3D testing - EDID modded graphics driver may not work for this testing, or may need device driver re-installation with each TV you test.
joker18 means your laptop hardware GPU is limited to HDMI 1.4, so it will never display a 4K (HDMI 2.0) image/video. This is NOT a software driver problem...

Great idea to test TVs at store with laptop, though! 1080p (HDMI 1.4) 3D high contrast 3D pictures/video can be used to compare ghosting among sets you are considering - and to determine the TV's minimum 3D viewing distance (where 3D is good over entire screen area). These performance areas, along with input lag, are never mentioned in TV tech specs. You would probably need 3DTV Play to host this 3D testing - EDID modded graphics driver may not work for this testing, or may need device driver re-installation with each TV you test.

Posted 01/29/2017 01:26 PM   
[quote="Conan481"][quote="SoundBlstr"][quote="Conan481"]...The only issue that I think may be related to the 2016 OLED is that every half hour or so the TV swaps eyes on me and I have to toggle the 3D on the TV on then off and it goes back to normal.[/quote] I'm not sure if this is the same issue or not, but on my 2016 LG OLED55C6P TV I kept getting the eye swapping thing (probably more often than you're suggesting). I [i]think[/i] I fixed it like this: IN TV SETTINGS: Picture > OLED Panel Settings > Screen Shift (turn off) The eye swap thing hasn't happened to me since doing this. However, I've only been testing games for 15-20 minutes at a time over the past two days. So, it may turn out that this issue pops back up over time for me. While I was thinking about it, I thought I'd post. Also, I put my complete process of getting the 2016 LG OLED55C6P TV working for 3D gaming in another thread here: [url]https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/943900/3d-vision/search-information-about-edid-for-3dvision-on-lg-oled-4k-55ef950v-55ef9500-/6/?offset=88#5069058[/url] Seemed like it might be helpful for anyone happening on this thread.[/quote] Awesome. I'll try it when I hook up my 65" tomorrow. However I noticed that the swap usually happens 3xaxtly after 30 min for me. So maybe you're just not playing long enough. Either way hopefully your setting is a fix. [/quote] Did you try this? I'm thinking of purchasing this tv
Conan481 said:
SoundBlstr said:
Conan481 said:...The only issue that I think may be related to the 2016 OLED is that every half hour or so the TV swaps eyes on me and I have to toggle the 3D on the TV on then off and it goes back to normal.


I'm not sure if this is the same issue or not, but on my 2016 LG OLED55C6P TV I kept getting the eye swapping thing (probably more often than you're suggesting). I think I fixed it like this:

IN TV SETTINGS: Picture > OLED Panel Settings > Screen Shift (turn off)

The eye swap thing hasn't happened to me since doing this. However, I've only been testing games for 15-20 minutes at a time over the past two days. So, it may turn out that this issue pops back up over time for me. While I was thinking about it, I thought I'd post.

Also, I put my complete process of getting the 2016 LG OLED55C6P TV working for 3D gaming in another thread here: https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/943900/3d-vision/search-information-about-edid-for-3dvision-on-lg-oled-4k-55ef950v-55ef9500-/6/?offset=88#5069058

Seemed like it might be helpful for anyone happening on this thread.


Awesome. I'll try it when I hook up my 65" tomorrow. However I noticed that the swap usually happens 3xaxtly after 30 min for me. So maybe you're just not playing long enough. Either way hopefully your setting is a fix.


Did you try this?

I'm thinking of purchasing this tv

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Posted 01/29/2017 09:04 PM   
Hi, I have an OLED55C6V on the way and am interested in trying to get this to work. From my understanding, using this method you will get a performance hit of 4K2D + 3D 50%? Is there anyway around this? What happens if you were to set a custom resolution of 3840x1080 in the nvidia control panel? Cheers
Hi,

I have an OLED55C6V on the way and am interested in trying to get this to work.

From my understanding, using this method you will get a performance hit of 4K2D + 3D 50%?

Is there anyway around this? What happens if you were to set a custom resolution of 3840x1080 in the nvidia control panel?

Cheers

Posted 02/03/2017 12:09 PM   
From my understanding, there's no way around the pretty severe performance hit, because the PC effectively has to draw twice the frames for your left/right eyes. However, like you indicated, I'm not sure if the math is exactly 50% of 4K2D, since it seems like the vertical resolution should be cut in half. I'd have to know more about the technology though to know if the graphic card actually takes advantage of this fact, or whether the scene is still rendered at full res and just sent to the monitor every other line. Either way, from what I'm seeing, any change in resolution translates into that being your [i]final[/i] res, so changing to 3840x1080 would just give you a letterboxed final picture. Since my display is currently working, I'm hesitant to do too much testing with custom resolutions for fear that I'd mess something up. Like I mentioned in my full post in the other thread ([url]https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/943900/3d-vision/search-information-about-edid-for-3dvision-on-lg-oled-4k-55ef950v-55ef9500-/6/?offset=88#5069058[/url]), after installing the EDID, I don't get the same options in the Nvidia control panel under 'change resolution'. Specifically, the "Output color format" and "Output dynamic range" fields are disabled. Since "Output color format" was critical to getting a non-ghosted 3D picture, I'm concerned that if I changed resolutions it might reset those settings, and I'd be unable to set them back without messing with the drivers. I just did an informal test in Witcher 3 at 4K (nearly maxed out settings): 3D on - 16-18 avg FPS 3D off- 30-34 avg FPS So, that seems to be about a 50% hit.
From my understanding, there's no way around the pretty severe performance hit, because the PC effectively has to draw twice the frames for your left/right eyes. However, like you indicated, I'm not sure if the math is exactly 50% of 4K2D, since it seems like the vertical resolution should be cut in half. I'd have to know more about the technology though to know if the graphic card actually takes advantage of this fact, or whether the scene is still rendered at full res and just sent to the monitor every other line.

Either way, from what I'm seeing, any change in resolution translates into that being your final res, so changing to 3840x1080 would just give you a letterboxed final picture. Since my display is currently working, I'm hesitant to do too much testing with custom resolutions for fear that I'd mess something up.

Like I mentioned in my full post in the other thread (https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/943900/3d-vision/search-information-about-edid-for-3dvision-on-lg-oled-4k-55ef950v-55ef9500-/6/?offset=88#5069058), after installing the EDID, I don't get the same options in the Nvidia control panel under 'change resolution'. Specifically, the "Output color format" and "Output dynamic range" fields are disabled. Since "Output color format" was critical to getting a non-ghosted 3D picture, I'm concerned that if I changed resolutions it might reset those settings, and I'd be unable to set them back without messing with the drivers.

I just did an informal test in Witcher 3 at 4K (nearly maxed out settings):
3D on - 16-18 avg FPS
3D off- 30-34 avg FPS

So, that seems to be about a 50% hit.

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Posted 02/03/2017 09:51 PM   
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