3D Blu-Ray VOB & IFO glitch on HDD 3D Blu-Ray not working
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[quote name='Flint Eastwood' post='1131369' date='Oct 15 2010, 09:20 PM']It sounds like you don't have a real 3D-Blu-Ray. It sounds like you got a standard Blu-Ray with an Anaglyph-Version(Red/Cyan or Green/Magenta) of this movie on it.
I had "Journey to the Center of Earth" here and there was one DVD with the 2D movie and another DVD with the 3D-Green/Magenta-Version. And the Green/Magenta-googles were in the box too.
Maybe the Blu-Ray has these two versions on one disc.
You can't simply rename or cut the vob-files because the cell-references in the *.ifo files won't match after.
You have to demux the video- and audio-streams , cut them and repack them to a new Blu-Ray-structure (This is the way you have to do for DVD's with some tools so I guess for Blu-Ray it would be similar).
But I don't know if there are those (freeware)tools allready available for Blu-Ray.
You can't access menus from your Media-HDD right? Then you might demux the streams from disc, cut them and mux them together as a simple TS-file(Transport-Stream) as used for HDTV on DVB-S2.
I made some HDTV recordings with my Satellite-receiver and this method worked to cut the recordings and make them able to be played again on the receiver.[/quote]
ok, thanks
i think you are right about the DVD, it came with the glasses..
I have seen a number of 3D TV's, the glasses are sweet and the 3D is really awesome from any angle... i wonder if u need those to see a 'real 3d' bluray
I used DVDshrink to reauthor the movie, and the two separate movies were identified as two separate files with 2 separate names, even though they both shared the same VOB file
the program made a new 2D only movie without the 3D version , i could do it again to make a second 3D-only movie, the entire process was about as long as it takes to put the DVD files on the HDD anyway
but im wondering about this Demux thing.. why did you have to Demux DVB movies? what was that for?
and what is a "Simple TS-file(Transport-Stream) as used for HDTV on DVB-S2"? is that one single TS file? or is it just like the regular TS folder you get with DVDshrink by reauthoring?
I dont get the menu functionality when reauthoring with DVDshrink, though i do get all of the audio and subtitle streams i want.
how can I Demux and retain menu functionality? or is it just the menu file displayed as a video without functionality when you demux as well?
i thought TS files were limited to 1GB, so will some media players not be able to play a larger TS file?
and what was the final format after u demuxed? VOB?
Im having trouble with certain movies copied to my HDD from the Video_TS folder, and DVDshrink seems to fix that, getting rid of the several GB's of previews and other files, but loss of menus, I'd really like the menus intact when starting the VIDEO_TS file, if you know of any way
[quote name='Flint Eastwood' post='1131369' date='Oct 15 2010, 09:20 PM']It sounds like you don't have a real 3D-Blu-Ray. It sounds like you got a standard Blu-Ray with an Anaglyph-Version(Red/Cyan or Green/Magenta) of this movie on it.
I had "Journey to the Center of Earth" here and there was one DVD with the 2D movie and another DVD with the 3D-Green/Magenta-Version. And the Green/Magenta-googles were in the box too.
Maybe the Blu-Ray has these two versions on one disc.
You can't simply rename or cut the vob-files because the cell-references in the *.ifo files won't match after.
You have to demux the video- and audio-streams , cut them and repack them to a new Blu-Ray-structure (This is the way you have to do for DVD's with some tools so I guess for Blu-Ray it would be similar).
But I don't know if there are those (freeware)tools allready available for Blu-Ray.
You can't access menus from your Media-HDD right? Then you might demux the streams from disc, cut them and mux them together as a simple TS-file(Transport-Stream) as used for HDTV on DVB-S2.
I made some HDTV recordings with my Satellite-receiver and this method worked to cut the recordings and make them able to be played again on the receiver.
ok, thanks
i think you are right about the DVD, it came with the glasses..
I have seen a number of 3D TV's, the glasses are sweet and the 3D is really awesome from any angle... i wonder if u need those to see a 'real 3d' bluray
I used DVDshrink to reauthor the movie, and the two separate movies were identified as two separate files with 2 separate names, even though they both shared the same VOB file
the program made a new 2D only movie without the 3D version , i could do it again to make a second 3D-only movie, the entire process was about as long as it takes to put the DVD files on the HDD anyway
but im wondering about this Demux thing.. why did you have to Demux DVB movies? what was that for?
and what is a "Simple TS-file(Transport-Stream) as used for HDTV on DVB-S2"? is that one single TS file? or is it just like the regular TS folder you get with DVDshrink by reauthoring?
I dont get the menu functionality when reauthoring with DVDshrink, though i do get all of the audio and subtitle streams i want.
how can I Demux and retain menu functionality? or is it just the menu file displayed as a video without functionality when you demux as well?
i thought TS files were limited to 1GB, so will some media players not be able to play a larger TS file?
and what was the final format after u demuxed? VOB?
Im having trouble with certain movies copied to my HDD from the Video_TS folder, and DVDshrink seems to fix that, getting rid of the several GB's of previews and other files, but loss of menus, I'd really like the menus intact when starting the VIDEO_TS file, if you know of any way
i think you are right about the DVD, it came with the glasses..
I have seen a number of 3D TV's, the glasses are sweet and the 3D is really awesome from any angle... i wonder if u need those to see a 'real 3d' bluray[/quote]
Yes, you need a 3DTV and active shutter glasses to see real 3D Blu-ray.
i think you are right about the DVD, it came with the glasses..
I have seen a number of 3D TV's, the glasses are sweet and the 3D is really awesome from any angle... i wonder if u need those to see a 'real 3d' bluray
Yes, you need a 3DTV and active shutter glasses to see real 3D Blu-ray.
i think you are right about the DVD, it came with the glasses..
I have seen a number of 3D TV's, the glasses are sweet and the 3D is really awesome from any angle... i wonder if u need those to see a 'real 3d' bluray[/quote]
Yes, you need a 3DTV and active shutter glasses to see real 3D Blu-ray.
i think you are right about the DVD, it came with the glasses..
I have seen a number of 3D TV's, the glasses are sweet and the 3D is really awesome from any angle... i wonder if u need those to see a 'real 3d' bluray
Yes, you need a 3DTV and active shutter glasses to see real 3D Blu-ray.
[quote name='1337assassin' post='1131451' date='Oct 16 2010, 02:55 AM']...I used DVDshrink to reauthor the movie, and the two separate movies were identified as two separate files with 2 separate names, even though they both shared the same VOB file[/quote]
Well, DVD-Shrink or CloneDVD are the first choice for reauthoring DVD's. I thought that this progs don't work for Blu-Ray but it seems that you have simple DVD-Data on a Blu-ray-media, is that possible?
You can imagine the VOBS as simple containers for (MPEG2)Video/Audio. And the IFOS keep all the infos about the different clips, chapters, menus, menu-buttons and point to different places in the VOB files.
Theoretically you could mix all chapters in the VOBS together and over the IFOS the movie would play just normal from start to end.
[quote]but im wondering about this Demux thing.. why did you have to Demux DVB movies? what was that for?
and what is a "Simple TS-file(Transport-Stream) as used for HDTV on DVB-S2"?[/quote]
Demuxing is a more complicated way for editing DVD or DVB material. To describe it I have to start with the TS files.
A TS-file contains the raw Video/Audio-data that is streamed over DVB-S/DVB-T/DVB-C. The TS-file can be compared with the VOB-file.
There are tools to cut those TS-files directly, but you can't cut the video on every frame. Therefore you have to demux the streams out of the VOB/TS-file(ProjectX is a perfect tool for that).
Then you will have a *.m2v file with the video-stream and one or more audio-streams(*.ac3 or *.mp2). With Cuttermaran and HCEnc I'm able to cut the recording on each frame. This is very helpful for commercials or so.
Then I can remux it to a TS file or I can use DVDauthor for example to make a DVD-structure (But I have to make a new own DVD-menu then - the old will be lost from demuxed DVD-VOBs).
But I guess this is a way you don't need to do when DVDshrink is working.
[quote]i thought TS files were limited to 1GB, so will some media players not be able to play a larger TS file?[/quote]
This 1GB Limit on DVD's has to do with the ISO/UDF Filesystem on a Video-DVD.
On a FAT32 formatted HDD files can have a size of 4GB.
On a NTFS formatted HDD I don't know the filesize-limit(if there is any) - so you won't reach this limit with a single video-movie.
[quote name='1337assassin' post='1131451' date='Oct 16 2010, 02:55 AM']...I used DVDshrink to reauthor the movie, and the two separate movies were identified as two separate files with 2 separate names, even though they both shared the same VOB file
Well, DVD-Shrink or CloneDVD are the first choice for reauthoring DVD's. I thought that this progs don't work for Blu-Ray but it seems that you have simple DVD-Data on a Blu-ray-media, is that possible?
You can imagine the VOBS as simple containers for (MPEG2)Video/Audio. And the IFOS keep all the infos about the different clips, chapters, menus, menu-buttons and point to different places in the VOB files.
Theoretically you could mix all chapters in the VOBS together and over the IFOS the movie would play just normal from start to end.
but im wondering about this Demux thing.. why did you have to Demux DVB movies? what was that for?
and what is a "Simple TS-file(Transport-Stream) as used for HDTV on DVB-S2"?
Demuxing is a more complicated way for editing DVD or DVB material. To describe it I have to start with the TS files.
A TS-file contains the raw Video/Audio-data that is streamed over DVB-S/DVB-T/DVB-C. The TS-file can be compared with the VOB-file.
There are tools to cut those TS-files directly, but you can't cut the video on every frame. Therefore you have to demux the streams out of the VOB/TS-file(ProjectX is a perfect tool for that).
Then you will have a *.m2v file with the video-stream and one or more audio-streams(*.ac3 or *.mp2). With Cuttermaran and HCEnc I'm able to cut the recording on each frame. This is very helpful for commercials or so.
Then I can remux it to a TS file or I can use DVDauthor for example to make a DVD-structure (But I have to make a new own DVD-menu then - the old will be lost from demuxed DVD-VOBs).
But I guess this is a way you don't need to do when DVDshrink is working.
i thought TS files were limited to 1GB, so will some media players not be able to play a larger TS file?
This 1GB Limit on DVD's has to do with the ISO/UDF Filesystem on a Video-DVD.
On a FAT32 formatted HDD files can have a size of 4GB.
On a NTFS formatted HDD I don't know the filesize-limit(if there is any) - so you won't reach this limit with a single video-movie.
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[quote name='1337assassin' post='1131451' date='Oct 16 2010, 02:55 AM']...I used DVDshrink to reauthor the movie, and the two separate movies were identified as two separate files with 2 separate names, even though they both shared the same VOB file[/quote]
Well, DVD-Shrink or CloneDVD are the first choice for reauthoring DVD's. I thought that this progs don't work for Blu-Ray but it seems that you have simple DVD-Data on a Blu-ray-media, is that possible?
You can imagine the VOBS as simple containers for (MPEG2)Video/Audio. And the IFOS keep all the infos about the different clips, chapters, menus, menu-buttons and point to different places in the VOB files.
Theoretically you could mix all chapters in the VOBS together and over the IFOS the movie would play just normal from start to end.
[quote]but im wondering about this Demux thing.. why did you have to Demux DVB movies? what was that for?
and what is a "Simple TS-file(Transport-Stream) as used for HDTV on DVB-S2"?[/quote]
Demuxing is a more complicated way for editing DVD or DVB material. To describe it I have to start with the TS files.
A TS-file contains the raw Video/Audio-data that is streamed over DVB-S/DVB-T/DVB-C. The TS-file can be compared with the VOB-file.
There are tools to cut those TS-files directly, but you can't cut the video on every frame. Therefore you have to demux the streams out of the VOB/TS-file(ProjectX is a perfect tool for that).
Then you will have a *.m2v file with the video-stream and one or more audio-streams(*.ac3 or *.mp2). With Cuttermaran and HCEnc I'm able to cut the recording on each frame. This is very helpful for commercials or so.
Then I can remux it to a TS file or I can use DVDauthor for example to make a DVD-structure (But I have to make a new own DVD-menu then - the old will be lost from demuxed DVD-VOBs).
But I guess this is a way you don't need to do when DVDshrink is working.
[quote]i thought TS files were limited to 1GB, so will some media players not be able to play a larger TS file?[/quote]
This 1GB Limit on DVD's has to do with the ISO/UDF Filesystem on a Video-DVD.
On a FAT32 formatted HDD files can have a size of 4GB.
On a NTFS formatted HDD I don't know the filesize-limit(if there is any) - so you won't reach this limit with a single video-movie.
[quote name='1337assassin' post='1131451' date='Oct 16 2010, 02:55 AM']...I used DVDshrink to reauthor the movie, and the two separate movies were identified as two separate files with 2 separate names, even though they both shared the same VOB file
Well, DVD-Shrink or CloneDVD are the first choice for reauthoring DVD's. I thought that this progs don't work for Blu-Ray but it seems that you have simple DVD-Data on a Blu-ray-media, is that possible?
You can imagine the VOBS as simple containers for (MPEG2)Video/Audio. And the IFOS keep all the infos about the different clips, chapters, menus, menu-buttons and point to different places in the VOB files.
Theoretically you could mix all chapters in the VOBS together and over the IFOS the movie would play just normal from start to end.
but im wondering about this Demux thing.. why did you have to Demux DVB movies? what was that for?
and what is a "Simple TS-file(Transport-Stream) as used for HDTV on DVB-S2"?
Demuxing is a more complicated way for editing DVD or DVB material. To describe it I have to start with the TS files.
A TS-file contains the raw Video/Audio-data that is streamed over DVB-S/DVB-T/DVB-C. The TS-file can be compared with the VOB-file.
There are tools to cut those TS-files directly, but you can't cut the video on every frame. Therefore you have to demux the streams out of the VOB/TS-file(ProjectX is a perfect tool for that).
Then you will have a *.m2v file with the video-stream and one or more audio-streams(*.ac3 or *.mp2). With Cuttermaran and HCEnc I'm able to cut the recording on each frame. This is very helpful for commercials or so.
Then I can remux it to a TS file or I can use DVDauthor for example to make a DVD-structure (But I have to make a new own DVD-menu then - the old will be lost from demuxed DVD-VOBs).
But I guess this is a way you don't need to do when DVDshrink is working.
i thought TS files were limited to 1GB, so will some media players not be able to play a larger TS file?
This 1GB Limit on DVD's has to do with the ISO/UDF Filesystem on a Video-DVD.
On a FAT32 formatted HDD files can have a size of 4GB.
On a NTFS formatted HDD I don't know the filesize-limit(if there is any) - so you won't reach this limit with a single video-movie.
Desktop-PC
i7 870 @ 3.8GHz + MSI GTX1070 Gaming X + 16GB RAM + Win10 64Bit Home + AW2310+3D-Vision
[quote name='Flint Eastwood' post='1131777' date='Oct 16 2010, 08:30 PM']Well, DVD-Shrink or CloneDVD are the first choice for reauthoring DVD's. I thought that this progs don't work for Blu-Ray but it seems that you have simple DVD-Data on a Blu-ray-media, is that possible?
You can imagine the VOBS as simple containers for (MPEG2)Video/Audio. And the IFOS keep all the infos about the different clips, chapters, menus, menu-buttons and point to different places in the VOB files.
Theoretically you could mix all chapters in the VOBS together and over the IFOS the movie would play just normal from start to end.
Demuxing is a more complicated way for editing DVD or DVB material. To describe it I have to start with the TS files.
A TS-file contains the raw Video/Audio-data that is streamed over DVB-S/DVB-T/DVB-C. The TS-file can be compared with the VOB-file.
There are tools to cut those TS-files directly, but you can't cut the video on every frame. Therefore you have to demux the streams out of the VOB/TS-file(ProjectX is a perfect tool for that).
Then you will have a *.m2v file with the video-stream and one or more audio-streams(*.ac3 or *.mp2). With Cuttermaran and HCEnc I'm able to cut the recording on each frame. This is very helpful for commercials or so.
Then I can remux it to a TS file or I can use DVDauthor for example to make a DVD-structure (But I have to make a new own DVD-menu then - the old will be lost from demuxed DVD-VOBs).
But I guess this is a way you don't need to do when DVDshrink is working.
This 1GB Limit on DVD's has to do with the ISO/UDF Filesystem on a Video-DVD.
On a FAT32 formatted HDD files can have a size of 4GB.
On a NTFS formatted HDD I don't know the filesize-limit(if there is any) - so you won't reach this limit with a single video-movie.[/quote]
thanks, you are right, the Blu-Ray are 25 GB with no VOB files, i bought a few actual Blu-Ray yesterday, along with a PC BluRay Disk player, I also upgraded to an 18 TB system in a Home Entertainment Media Device, 1 internal 2TB and and multi-HDD USB cradles for the other 8 2TB drives, i have external Sata ports on my PC for file transfer
i really dont see what the big fuss is about, Blu-Ray quality doesnt really look much better on an averagely big HD Flat panel
anyway, I still need to do all my VOB converting, but thanks for the workflow for Blu-Ray, i will have to play around with the blu-ray contents.. i dont know anything about them yet, or what does what, and what you can do without.
i wont be buying any duplicate Blu-rays that i own on DVD, and for now and the foreseeable future most of the space will still be used for a large amount of childrens movies, cartoons, Tom & Jerry, Looney Toons, Disney, Pixar, etc, as well as all the superhero movies from marvel, hasbro, etc, and all the epic war movies and historical-based movies like dances with wolves, 300, gladiator, troy, brave heart, the patriot, etc, and an extrmely large amount of BBC specials like planet earth, walking with dinosaurs, space, blue planet, etc etc, as well as old series like all the original Sherlock Homes etc.. and also a large amount of how-to videos, such as cooking, Martial Arts, yoga, Pilates, art classes, mechanical stuff, a large number of educational tutorials and podcasts from itunes and youtube and other how-to hobby, craft, skill, and technique sites, etc etc etc etc etc
I always thought it would be best to keep the video at the same DVD quality, on Blu-Ray, and instead put in "Choose Your Own Adventure" capabilities with the extra space, in effect holding 8 more movies on the BluRay disk, which are really just alternate sequences of he same movie, with 8 times the run-time, as most all movies made have at t least that much usable footage anyway
i thought it could revolutionize the way movies were made, not just make the same movie 8 times bigger,
i mean really.. how big are flat panels actually going to get, our walls will have to be bigger, and our ceilings higher..
Choose you own adventures in DVD9 quality on blu ray disks would be worth each and every penny, as you would never see it the same way twice, there are literally hundreds or thousands of possible movie combinations
[quote name='Flint Eastwood' post='1131777' date='Oct 16 2010, 08:30 PM']Well, DVD-Shrink or CloneDVD are the first choice for reauthoring DVD's. I thought that this progs don't work for Blu-Ray but it seems that you have simple DVD-Data on a Blu-ray-media, is that possible?
You can imagine the VOBS as simple containers for (MPEG2)Video/Audio. And the IFOS keep all the infos about the different clips, chapters, menus, menu-buttons and point to different places in the VOB files.
Theoretically you could mix all chapters in the VOBS together and over the IFOS the movie would play just normal from start to end.
Demuxing is a more complicated way for editing DVD or DVB material. To describe it I have to start with the TS files.
A TS-file contains the raw Video/Audio-data that is streamed over DVB-S/DVB-T/DVB-C. The TS-file can be compared with the VOB-file.
There are tools to cut those TS-files directly, but you can't cut the video on every frame. Therefore you have to demux the streams out of the VOB/TS-file(ProjectX is a perfect tool for that).
Then you will have a *.m2v file with the video-stream and one or more audio-streams(*.ac3 or *.mp2). With Cuttermaran and HCEnc I'm able to cut the recording on each frame. This is very helpful for commercials or so.
Then I can remux it to a TS file or I can use DVDauthor for example to make a DVD-structure (But I have to make a new own DVD-menu then - the old will be lost from demuxed DVD-VOBs).
But I guess this is a way you don't need to do when DVDshrink is working.
This 1GB Limit on DVD's has to do with the ISO/UDF Filesystem on a Video-DVD.
On a FAT32 formatted HDD files can have a size of 4GB.
On a NTFS formatted HDD I don't know the filesize-limit(if there is any) - so you won't reach this limit with a single video-movie.
thanks, you are right, the Blu-Ray are 25 GB with no VOB files, i bought a few actual Blu-Ray yesterday, along with a PC BluRay Disk player, I also upgraded to an 18 TB system in a Home Entertainment Media Device, 1 internal 2TB and and multi-HDD USB cradles for the other 8 2TB drives, i have external Sata ports on my PC for file transfer
i really dont see what the big fuss is about, Blu-Ray quality doesnt really look much better on an averagely big HD Flat panel
anyway, I still need to do all my VOB converting, but thanks for the workflow for Blu-Ray, i will have to play around with the blu-ray contents.. i dont know anything about them yet, or what does what, and what you can do without.
i wont be buying any duplicate Blu-rays that i own on DVD, and for now and the foreseeable future most of the space will still be used for a large amount of childrens movies, cartoons, Tom & Jerry, Looney Toons, Disney, Pixar, etc, as well as all the superhero movies from marvel, hasbro, etc, and all the epic war movies and historical-based movies like dances with wolves, 300, gladiator, troy, brave heart, the patriot, etc, and an extrmely large amount of BBC specials like planet earth, walking with dinosaurs, space, blue planet, etc etc, as well as old series like all the original Sherlock Homes etc.. and also a large amount of how-to videos, such as cooking, Martial Arts, yoga, Pilates, art classes, mechanical stuff, a large number of educational tutorials and podcasts from itunes and youtube and other how-to hobby, craft, skill, and technique sites, etc etc etc etc etc
I always thought it would be best to keep the video at the same DVD quality, on Blu-Ray, and instead put in "Choose Your Own Adventure" capabilities with the extra space, in effect holding 8 more movies on the BluRay disk, which are really just alternate sequences of he same movie, with 8 times the run-time, as most all movies made have at t least that much usable footage anyway
i thought it could revolutionize the way movies were made, not just make the same movie 8 times bigger,
i mean really.. how big are flat panels actually going to get, our walls will have to be bigger, and our ceilings higher..
Choose you own adventures in DVD9 quality on blu ray disks would be worth each and every penny, as you would never see it the same way twice, there are literally hundreds or thousands of possible movie combinations
[quote name='Flint Eastwood' post='1131777' date='Oct 16 2010, 08:30 PM']Well, DVD-Shrink or CloneDVD are the first choice for reauthoring DVD's. I thought that this progs don't work for Blu-Ray but it seems that you have simple DVD-Data on a Blu-ray-media, is that possible?
You can imagine the VOBS as simple containers for (MPEG2)Video/Audio. And the IFOS keep all the infos about the different clips, chapters, menus, menu-buttons and point to different places in the VOB files.
Theoretically you could mix all chapters in the VOBS together and over the IFOS the movie would play just normal from start to end.
Demuxing is a more complicated way for editing DVD or DVB material. To describe it I have to start with the TS files.
A TS-file contains the raw Video/Audio-data that is streamed over DVB-S/DVB-T/DVB-C. The TS-file can be compared with the VOB-file.
There are tools to cut those TS-files directly, but you can't cut the video on every frame. Therefore you have to demux the streams out of the VOB/TS-file(ProjectX is a perfect tool for that).
Then you will have a *.m2v file with the video-stream and one or more audio-streams(*.ac3 or *.mp2). With Cuttermaran and HCEnc I'm able to cut the recording on each frame. This is very helpful for commercials or so.
Then I can remux it to a TS file or I can use DVDauthor for example to make a DVD-structure (But I have to make a new own DVD-menu then - the old will be lost from demuxed DVD-VOBs).
But I guess this is a way you don't need to do when DVDshrink is working.
This 1GB Limit on DVD's has to do with the ISO/UDF Filesystem on a Video-DVD.
On a FAT32 formatted HDD files can have a size of 4GB.
On a NTFS formatted HDD I don't know the filesize-limit(if there is any) - so you won't reach this limit with a single video-movie.[/quote]
thanks, you are right, the Blu-Ray are 25 GB with no VOB files, i bought a few actual Blu-Ray yesterday, along with a PC BluRay Disk player, I also upgraded to an 18 TB system in a Home Entertainment Media Device, 1 internal 2TB and and multi-HDD USB cradles for the other 8 2TB drives, i have external Sata ports on my PC for file transfer
i really dont see what the big fuss is about, Blu-Ray quality doesnt really look much better on an averagely big HD Flat panel
anyway, I still need to do all my VOB converting, but thanks for the workflow for Blu-Ray, i will have to play around with the blu-ray contents.. i dont know anything about them yet, or what does what, and what you can do without.
i wont be buying any duplicate Blu-rays that i own on DVD, and for now and the foreseeable future most of the space will still be used for a large amount of childrens movies, cartoons, Tom & Jerry, Looney Toons, Disney, Pixar, etc, as well as all the superhero movies from marvel, hasbro, etc, and all the epic war movies and historical-based movies like dances with wolves, 300, gladiator, troy, brave heart, the patriot, etc, and an extrmely large amount of BBC specials like planet earth, walking with dinosaurs, space, blue planet, etc etc, as well as old series like all the original Sherlock Homes etc.. and also a large amount of how-to videos, such as cooking, Martial Arts, yoga, Pilates, art classes, mechanical stuff, a large number of educational tutorials and podcasts from itunes and youtube and other how-to hobby, craft, skill, and technique sites, etc etc etc etc etc
I always thought it would be best to keep the video at the same DVD quality, on Blu-Ray, and instead put in "Choose Your Own Adventure" capabilities with the extra space, in effect holding 8 more movies on the BluRay disk, which are really just alternate sequences of he same movie, with 8 times the run-time, as most all movies made have at t least that much usable footage anyway
i thought it could revolutionize the way movies were made, not just make the same movie 8 times bigger,
i mean really.. how big are flat panels actually going to get, our walls will have to be bigger, and our ceilings higher..
Choose you own adventures in DVD9 quality on blu ray disks would be worth each and every penny, as you would never see it the same way twice, there are literally hundreds or thousands of possible movie combinations
[quote name='Flint Eastwood' post='1131777' date='Oct 16 2010, 08:30 PM']Well, DVD-Shrink or CloneDVD are the first choice for reauthoring DVD's. I thought that this progs don't work for Blu-Ray but it seems that you have simple DVD-Data on a Blu-ray-media, is that possible?
You can imagine the VOBS as simple containers for (MPEG2)Video/Audio. And the IFOS keep all the infos about the different clips, chapters, menus, menu-buttons and point to different places in the VOB files.
Theoretically you could mix all chapters in the VOBS together and over the IFOS the movie would play just normal from start to end.
Demuxing is a more complicated way for editing DVD or DVB material. To describe it I have to start with the TS files.
A TS-file contains the raw Video/Audio-data that is streamed over DVB-S/DVB-T/DVB-C. The TS-file can be compared with the VOB-file.
There are tools to cut those TS-files directly, but you can't cut the video on every frame. Therefore you have to demux the streams out of the VOB/TS-file(ProjectX is a perfect tool for that).
Then you will have a *.m2v file with the video-stream and one or more audio-streams(*.ac3 or *.mp2). With Cuttermaran and HCEnc I'm able to cut the recording on each frame. This is very helpful for commercials or so.
Then I can remux it to a TS file or I can use DVDauthor for example to make a DVD-structure (But I have to make a new own DVD-menu then - the old will be lost from demuxed DVD-VOBs).
But I guess this is a way you don't need to do when DVDshrink is working.
This 1GB Limit on DVD's has to do with the ISO/UDF Filesystem on a Video-DVD.
On a FAT32 formatted HDD files can have a size of 4GB.
On a NTFS formatted HDD I don't know the filesize-limit(if there is any) - so you won't reach this limit with a single video-movie.
thanks, you are right, the Blu-Ray are 25 GB with no VOB files, i bought a few actual Blu-Ray yesterday, along with a PC BluRay Disk player, I also upgraded to an 18 TB system in a Home Entertainment Media Device, 1 internal 2TB and and multi-HDD USB cradles for the other 8 2TB drives, i have external Sata ports on my PC for file transfer
i really dont see what the big fuss is about, Blu-Ray quality doesnt really look much better on an averagely big HD Flat panel
anyway, I still need to do all my VOB converting, but thanks for the workflow for Blu-Ray, i will have to play around with the blu-ray contents.. i dont know anything about them yet, or what does what, and what you can do without.
i wont be buying any duplicate Blu-rays that i own on DVD, and for now and the foreseeable future most of the space will still be used for a large amount of childrens movies, cartoons, Tom & Jerry, Looney Toons, Disney, Pixar, etc, as well as all the superhero movies from marvel, hasbro, etc, and all the epic war movies and historical-based movies like dances with wolves, 300, gladiator, troy, brave heart, the patriot, etc, and an extrmely large amount of BBC specials like planet earth, walking with dinosaurs, space, blue planet, etc etc, as well as old series like all the original Sherlock Homes etc.. and also a large amount of how-to videos, such as cooking, Martial Arts, yoga, Pilates, art classes, mechanical stuff, a large number of educational tutorials and podcasts from itunes and youtube and other how-to hobby, craft, skill, and technique sites, etc etc etc etc etc
I always thought it would be best to keep the video at the same DVD quality, on Blu-Ray, and instead put in "Choose Your Own Adventure" capabilities with the extra space, in effect holding 8 more movies on the BluRay disk, which are really just alternate sequences of he same movie, with 8 times the run-time, as most all movies made have at t least that much usable footage anyway
i thought it could revolutionize the way movies were made, not just make the same movie 8 times bigger,
i mean really.. how big are flat panels actually going to get, our walls will have to be bigger, and our ceilings higher..
Choose you own adventures in DVD9 quality on blu ray disks would be worth each and every penny, as you would never see it the same way twice, there are literally hundreds or thousands of possible movie combinations
I had "Journey to the Center of Earth" here and there was one DVD with the 2D movie and another DVD with the 3D-Green/Magenta-Version. And the Green/Magenta-googles were in the box too.
Maybe the Blu-Ray has these two versions on one disc.
You can't simply rename or cut the vob-files because the cell-references in the *.ifo files won't match after.
You have to demux the video- and audio-streams , cut them and repack them to a new Blu-Ray-structure (This is the way you have to do for DVD's with some tools so I guess for Blu-Ray it would be similar).
But I don't know if there are those (freeware)tools allready available for Blu-Ray.
You can't access menus from your Media-HDD right? Then you might demux the streams from disc, cut them and mux them together as a simple TS-file(Transport-Stream) as used for HDTV on DVB-S2.
I made some HDTV recordings with my Satellite-receiver and this method worked to cut the recordings and make them able to be played again on the receiver.[/quote]
ok, thanks
i think you are right about the DVD, it came with the glasses..
I have seen a number of 3D TV's, the glasses are sweet and the 3D is really awesome from any angle... i wonder if u need those to see a 'real 3d' bluray
I used DVDshrink to reauthor the movie, and the two separate movies were identified as two separate files with 2 separate names, even though they both shared the same VOB file
the program made a new 2D only movie without the 3D version , i could do it again to make a second 3D-only movie, the entire process was about as long as it takes to put the DVD files on the HDD anyway
but im wondering about this Demux thing.. why did you have to Demux DVB movies? what was that for?
and what is a "Simple TS-file(Transport-Stream) as used for HDTV on DVB-S2"? is that one single TS file? or is it just like the regular TS folder you get with DVDshrink by reauthoring?
I dont get the menu functionality when reauthoring with DVDshrink, though i do get all of the audio and subtitle streams i want.
how can I Demux and retain menu functionality? or is it just the menu file displayed as a video without functionality when you demux as well?
i thought TS files were limited to 1GB, so will some media players not be able to play a larger TS file?
and what was the final format after u demuxed? VOB?
Im having trouble with certain movies copied to my HDD from the Video_TS folder, and DVDshrink seems to fix that, getting rid of the several GB's of previews and other files, but loss of menus, I'd really like the menus intact when starting the VIDEO_TS file, if you know of any way
thanks for your help
I had "Journey to the Center of Earth" here and there was one DVD with the 2D movie and another DVD with the 3D-Green/Magenta-Version. And the Green/Magenta-googles were in the box too.
Maybe the Blu-Ray has these two versions on one disc.
You can't simply rename or cut the vob-files because the cell-references in the *.ifo files won't match after.
You have to demux the video- and audio-streams , cut them and repack them to a new Blu-Ray-structure (This is the way you have to do for DVD's with some tools so I guess for Blu-Ray it would be similar).
But I don't know if there are those (freeware)tools allready available for Blu-Ray.
You can't access menus from your Media-HDD right? Then you might demux the streams from disc, cut them and mux them together as a simple TS-file(Transport-Stream) as used for HDTV on DVB-S2.
I made some HDTV recordings with my Satellite-receiver and this method worked to cut the recordings and make them able to be played again on the receiver.
ok, thanks
i think you are right about the DVD, it came with the glasses..
I have seen a number of 3D TV's, the glasses are sweet and the 3D is really awesome from any angle... i wonder if u need those to see a 'real 3d' bluray
I used DVDshrink to reauthor the movie, and the two separate movies were identified as two separate files with 2 separate names, even though they both shared the same VOB file
the program made a new 2D only movie without the 3D version , i could do it again to make a second 3D-only movie, the entire process was about as long as it takes to put the DVD files on the HDD anyway
but im wondering about this Demux thing.. why did you have to Demux DVB movies? what was that for?
and what is a "Simple TS-file(Transport-Stream) as used for HDTV on DVB-S2"? is that one single TS file? or is it just like the regular TS folder you get with DVDshrink by reauthoring?
I dont get the menu functionality when reauthoring with DVDshrink, though i do get all of the audio and subtitle streams i want.
how can I Demux and retain menu functionality? or is it just the menu file displayed as a video without functionality when you demux as well?
i thought TS files were limited to 1GB, so will some media players not be able to play a larger TS file?
and what was the final format after u demuxed? VOB?
Im having trouble with certain movies copied to my HDD from the Video_TS folder, and DVDshrink seems to fix that, getting rid of the several GB's of previews and other files, but loss of menus, I'd really like the menus intact when starting the VIDEO_TS file, if you know of any way
thanks for your help
i think you are right about the DVD, it came with the glasses..
I have seen a number of 3D TV's, the glasses are sweet and the 3D is really awesome from any angle... i wonder if u need those to see a 'real 3d' bluray[/quote]
Yes, you need a 3DTV and active shutter glasses to see real 3D Blu-ray.
i think you are right about the DVD, it came with the glasses..
I have seen a number of 3D TV's, the glasses are sweet and the 3D is really awesome from any angle... i wonder if u need those to see a 'real 3d' bluray
Yes, you need a 3DTV and active shutter glasses to see real 3D Blu-ray.
i think you are right about the DVD, it came with the glasses..
I have seen a number of 3D TV's, the glasses are sweet and the 3D is really awesome from any angle... i wonder if u need those to see a 'real 3d' bluray[/quote]
Yes, you need a 3DTV and active shutter glasses to see real 3D Blu-ray.
i think you are right about the DVD, it came with the glasses..
I have seen a number of 3D TV's, the glasses are sweet and the 3D is really awesome from any angle... i wonder if u need those to see a 'real 3d' bluray
Yes, you need a 3DTV and active shutter glasses to see real 3D Blu-ray.
Well, DVD-Shrink or CloneDVD are the first choice for reauthoring DVD's. I thought that this progs don't work for Blu-Ray but it seems that you have simple DVD-Data on a Blu-ray-media, is that possible?
You can imagine the VOBS as simple containers for (MPEG2)Video/Audio. And the IFOS keep all the infos about the different clips, chapters, menus, menu-buttons and point to different places in the VOB files.
Theoretically you could mix all chapters in the VOBS together and over the IFOS the movie would play just normal from start to end.
[quote]but im wondering about this Demux thing.. why did you have to Demux DVB movies? what was that for?
and what is a "Simple TS-file(Transport-Stream) as used for HDTV on DVB-S2"?[/quote]
Demuxing is a more complicated way for editing DVD or DVB material. To describe it I have to start with the TS files.
A TS-file contains the raw Video/Audio-data that is streamed over DVB-S/DVB-T/DVB-C. The TS-file can be compared with the VOB-file.
There are tools to cut those TS-files directly, but you can't cut the video on every frame. Therefore you have to demux the streams out of the VOB/TS-file(ProjectX is a perfect tool for that).
Then you will have a *.m2v file with the video-stream and one or more audio-streams(*.ac3 or *.mp2). With Cuttermaran and HCEnc I'm able to cut the recording on each frame. This is very helpful for commercials or so.
Then I can remux it to a TS file or I can use DVDauthor for example to make a DVD-structure (But I have to make a new own DVD-menu then - the old will be lost from demuxed DVD-VOBs).
But I guess this is a way you don't need to do when DVDshrink is working.
[quote]i thought TS files were limited to 1GB, so will some media players not be able to play a larger TS file?[/quote]
This 1GB Limit on DVD's has to do with the ISO/UDF Filesystem on a Video-DVD.
On a FAT32 formatted HDD files can have a size of 4GB.
On a NTFS formatted HDD I don't know the filesize-limit(if there is any) - so you won't reach this limit with a single video-movie.
Well, DVD-Shrink or CloneDVD are the first choice for reauthoring DVD's. I thought that this progs don't work for Blu-Ray but it seems that you have simple DVD-Data on a Blu-ray-media, is that possible?
You can imagine the VOBS as simple containers for (MPEG2)Video/Audio. And the IFOS keep all the infos about the different clips, chapters, menus, menu-buttons and point to different places in the VOB files.
Theoretically you could mix all chapters in the VOBS together and over the IFOS the movie would play just normal from start to end.
Demuxing is a more complicated way for editing DVD or DVB material. To describe it I have to start with the TS files.
A TS-file contains the raw Video/Audio-data that is streamed over DVB-S/DVB-T/DVB-C. The TS-file can be compared with the VOB-file.
There are tools to cut those TS-files directly, but you can't cut the video on every frame. Therefore you have to demux the streams out of the VOB/TS-file(ProjectX is a perfect tool for that).
Then you will have a *.m2v file with the video-stream and one or more audio-streams(*.ac3 or *.mp2). With Cuttermaran and HCEnc I'm able to cut the recording on each frame. This is very helpful for commercials or so.
Then I can remux it to a TS file or I can use DVDauthor for example to make a DVD-structure (But I have to make a new own DVD-menu then - the old will be lost from demuxed DVD-VOBs).
But I guess this is a way you don't need to do when DVDshrink is working.
This 1GB Limit on DVD's has to do with the ISO/UDF Filesystem on a Video-DVD.
On a FAT32 formatted HDD files can have a size of 4GB.
On a NTFS formatted HDD I don't know the filesize-limit(if there is any) - so you won't reach this limit with a single video-movie.
Desktop-PC
i7 870 @ 3.8GHz + MSI GTX1070 Gaming X + 16GB RAM + Win10 64Bit Home + AW2310+3D-Vision
Well, DVD-Shrink or CloneDVD are the first choice for reauthoring DVD's. I thought that this progs don't work for Blu-Ray but it seems that you have simple DVD-Data on a Blu-ray-media, is that possible?
You can imagine the VOBS as simple containers for (MPEG2)Video/Audio. And the IFOS keep all the infos about the different clips, chapters, menus, menu-buttons and point to different places in the VOB files.
Theoretically you could mix all chapters in the VOBS together and over the IFOS the movie would play just normal from start to end.
[quote]but im wondering about this Demux thing.. why did you have to Demux DVB movies? what was that for?
and what is a "Simple TS-file(Transport-Stream) as used for HDTV on DVB-S2"?[/quote]
Demuxing is a more complicated way for editing DVD or DVB material. To describe it I have to start with the TS files.
A TS-file contains the raw Video/Audio-data that is streamed over DVB-S/DVB-T/DVB-C. The TS-file can be compared with the VOB-file.
There are tools to cut those TS-files directly, but you can't cut the video on every frame. Therefore you have to demux the streams out of the VOB/TS-file(ProjectX is a perfect tool for that).
Then you will have a *.m2v file with the video-stream and one or more audio-streams(*.ac3 or *.mp2). With Cuttermaran and HCEnc I'm able to cut the recording on each frame. This is very helpful for commercials or so.
Then I can remux it to a TS file or I can use DVDauthor for example to make a DVD-structure (But I have to make a new own DVD-menu then - the old will be lost from demuxed DVD-VOBs).
But I guess this is a way you don't need to do when DVDshrink is working.
[quote]i thought TS files were limited to 1GB, so will some media players not be able to play a larger TS file?[/quote]
This 1GB Limit on DVD's has to do with the ISO/UDF Filesystem on a Video-DVD.
On a FAT32 formatted HDD files can have a size of 4GB.
On a NTFS formatted HDD I don't know the filesize-limit(if there is any) - so you won't reach this limit with a single video-movie.
Well, DVD-Shrink or CloneDVD are the first choice for reauthoring DVD's. I thought that this progs don't work for Blu-Ray but it seems that you have simple DVD-Data on a Blu-ray-media, is that possible?
You can imagine the VOBS as simple containers for (MPEG2)Video/Audio. And the IFOS keep all the infos about the different clips, chapters, menus, menu-buttons and point to different places in the VOB files.
Theoretically you could mix all chapters in the VOBS together and over the IFOS the movie would play just normal from start to end.
Demuxing is a more complicated way for editing DVD or DVB material. To describe it I have to start with the TS files.
A TS-file contains the raw Video/Audio-data that is streamed over DVB-S/DVB-T/DVB-C. The TS-file can be compared with the VOB-file.
There are tools to cut those TS-files directly, but you can't cut the video on every frame. Therefore you have to demux the streams out of the VOB/TS-file(ProjectX is a perfect tool for that).
Then you will have a *.m2v file with the video-stream and one or more audio-streams(*.ac3 or *.mp2). With Cuttermaran and HCEnc I'm able to cut the recording on each frame. This is very helpful for commercials or so.
Then I can remux it to a TS file or I can use DVDauthor for example to make a DVD-structure (But I have to make a new own DVD-menu then - the old will be lost from demuxed DVD-VOBs).
But I guess this is a way you don't need to do when DVDshrink is working.
This 1GB Limit on DVD's has to do with the ISO/UDF Filesystem on a Video-DVD.
On a FAT32 formatted HDD files can have a size of 4GB.
On a NTFS formatted HDD I don't know the filesize-limit(if there is any) - so you won't reach this limit with a single video-movie.
Desktop-PC
i7 870 @ 3.8GHz + MSI GTX1070 Gaming X + 16GB RAM + Win10 64Bit Home + AW2310+3D-Vision
You can imagine the VOBS as simple containers for (MPEG2)Video/Audio. And the IFOS keep all the infos about the different clips, chapters, menus, menu-buttons and point to different places in the VOB files.
Theoretically you could mix all chapters in the VOBS together and over the IFOS the movie would play just normal from start to end.
Demuxing is a more complicated way for editing DVD or DVB material. To describe it I have to start with the TS files.
A TS-file contains the raw Video/Audio-data that is streamed over DVB-S/DVB-T/DVB-C. The TS-file can be compared with the VOB-file.
There are tools to cut those TS-files directly, but you can't cut the video on every frame. Therefore you have to demux the streams out of the VOB/TS-file(ProjectX is a perfect tool for that).
Then you will have a *.m2v file with the video-stream and one or more audio-streams(*.ac3 or *.mp2). With Cuttermaran and HCEnc I'm able to cut the recording on each frame. This is very helpful for commercials or so.
Then I can remux it to a TS file or I can use DVDauthor for example to make a DVD-structure (But I have to make a new own DVD-menu then - the old will be lost from demuxed DVD-VOBs).
But I guess this is a way you don't need to do when DVDshrink is working.
This 1GB Limit on DVD's has to do with the ISO/UDF Filesystem on a Video-DVD.
On a FAT32 formatted HDD files can have a size of 4GB.
On a NTFS formatted HDD I don't know the filesize-limit(if there is any) - so you won't reach this limit with a single video-movie.[/quote]
thanks, you are right, the Blu-Ray are 25 GB with no VOB files, i bought a few actual Blu-Ray yesterday, along with a PC BluRay Disk player, I also upgraded to an 18 TB system in a Home Entertainment Media Device, 1 internal 2TB and and multi-HDD USB cradles for the other 8 2TB drives, i have external Sata ports on my PC for file transfer
i really dont see what the big fuss is about, Blu-Ray quality doesnt really look much better on an averagely big HD Flat panel
anyway, I still need to do all my VOB converting, but thanks for the workflow for Blu-Ray, i will have to play around with the blu-ray contents.. i dont know anything about them yet, or what does what, and what you can do without.
i wont be buying any duplicate Blu-rays that i own on DVD, and for now and the foreseeable future most of the space will still be used for a large amount of childrens movies, cartoons, Tom & Jerry, Looney Toons, Disney, Pixar, etc, as well as all the superhero movies from marvel, hasbro, etc, and all the epic war movies and historical-based movies like dances with wolves, 300, gladiator, troy, brave heart, the patriot, etc, and an extrmely large amount of BBC specials like planet earth, walking with dinosaurs, space, blue planet, etc etc, as well as old series like all the original Sherlock Homes etc.. and also a large amount of how-to videos, such as cooking, Martial Arts, yoga, Pilates, art classes, mechanical stuff, a large number of educational tutorials and podcasts from itunes and youtube and other how-to hobby, craft, skill, and technique sites, etc etc etc etc etc
I always thought it would be best to keep the video at the same DVD quality, on Blu-Ray, and instead put in "Choose Your Own Adventure" capabilities with the extra space, in effect holding 8 more movies on the BluRay disk, which are really just alternate sequences of he same movie, with 8 times the run-time, as most all movies made have at t least that much usable footage anyway
i thought it could revolutionize the way movies were made, not just make the same movie 8 times bigger,
i mean really.. how big are flat panels actually going to get, our walls will have to be bigger, and our ceilings higher..
Choose you own adventures in DVD9 quality on blu ray disks would be worth each and every penny, as you would never see it the same way twice, there are literally hundreds or thousands of possible movie combinations
You can imagine the VOBS as simple containers for (MPEG2)Video/Audio. And the IFOS keep all the infos about the different clips, chapters, menus, menu-buttons and point to different places in the VOB files.
Theoretically you could mix all chapters in the VOBS together and over the IFOS the movie would play just normal from start to end.
Demuxing is a more complicated way for editing DVD or DVB material. To describe it I have to start with the TS files.
A TS-file contains the raw Video/Audio-data that is streamed over DVB-S/DVB-T/DVB-C. The TS-file can be compared with the VOB-file.
There are tools to cut those TS-files directly, but you can't cut the video on every frame. Therefore you have to demux the streams out of the VOB/TS-file(ProjectX is a perfect tool for that).
Then you will have a *.m2v file with the video-stream and one or more audio-streams(*.ac3 or *.mp2). With Cuttermaran and HCEnc I'm able to cut the recording on each frame. This is very helpful for commercials or so.
Then I can remux it to a TS file or I can use DVDauthor for example to make a DVD-structure (But I have to make a new own DVD-menu then - the old will be lost from demuxed DVD-VOBs).
But I guess this is a way you don't need to do when DVDshrink is working.
This 1GB Limit on DVD's has to do with the ISO/UDF Filesystem on a Video-DVD.
On a FAT32 formatted HDD files can have a size of 4GB.
On a NTFS formatted HDD I don't know the filesize-limit(if there is any) - so you won't reach this limit with a single video-movie.
thanks, you are right, the Blu-Ray are 25 GB with no VOB files, i bought a few actual Blu-Ray yesterday, along with a PC BluRay Disk player, I also upgraded to an 18 TB system in a Home Entertainment Media Device, 1 internal 2TB and and multi-HDD USB cradles for the other 8 2TB drives, i have external Sata ports on my PC for file transfer
i really dont see what the big fuss is about, Blu-Ray quality doesnt really look much better on an averagely big HD Flat panel
anyway, I still need to do all my VOB converting, but thanks for the workflow for Blu-Ray, i will have to play around with the blu-ray contents.. i dont know anything about them yet, or what does what, and what you can do without.
i wont be buying any duplicate Blu-rays that i own on DVD, and for now and the foreseeable future most of the space will still be used for a large amount of childrens movies, cartoons, Tom & Jerry, Looney Toons, Disney, Pixar, etc, as well as all the superhero movies from marvel, hasbro, etc, and all the epic war movies and historical-based movies like dances with wolves, 300, gladiator, troy, brave heart, the patriot, etc, and an extrmely large amount of BBC specials like planet earth, walking with dinosaurs, space, blue planet, etc etc, as well as old series like all the original Sherlock Homes etc.. and also a large amount of how-to videos, such as cooking, Martial Arts, yoga, Pilates, art classes, mechanical stuff, a large number of educational tutorials and podcasts from itunes and youtube and other how-to hobby, craft, skill, and technique sites, etc etc etc etc etc
I always thought it would be best to keep the video at the same DVD quality, on Blu-Ray, and instead put in "Choose Your Own Adventure" capabilities with the extra space, in effect holding 8 more movies on the BluRay disk, which are really just alternate sequences of he same movie, with 8 times the run-time, as most all movies made have at t least that much usable footage anyway
i thought it could revolutionize the way movies were made, not just make the same movie 8 times bigger,
i mean really.. how big are flat panels actually going to get, our walls will have to be bigger, and our ceilings higher..
Choose you own adventures in DVD9 quality on blu ray disks would be worth each and every penny, as you would never see it the same way twice, there are literally hundreds or thousands of possible movie combinations
You can imagine the VOBS as simple containers for (MPEG2)Video/Audio. And the IFOS keep all the infos about the different clips, chapters, menus, menu-buttons and point to different places in the VOB files.
Theoretically you could mix all chapters in the VOBS together and over the IFOS the movie would play just normal from start to end.
Demuxing is a more complicated way for editing DVD or DVB material. To describe it I have to start with the TS files.
A TS-file contains the raw Video/Audio-data that is streamed over DVB-S/DVB-T/DVB-C. The TS-file can be compared with the VOB-file.
There are tools to cut those TS-files directly, but you can't cut the video on every frame. Therefore you have to demux the streams out of the VOB/TS-file(ProjectX is a perfect tool for that).
Then you will have a *.m2v file with the video-stream and one or more audio-streams(*.ac3 or *.mp2). With Cuttermaran and HCEnc I'm able to cut the recording on each frame. This is very helpful for commercials or so.
Then I can remux it to a TS file or I can use DVDauthor for example to make a DVD-structure (But I have to make a new own DVD-menu then - the old will be lost from demuxed DVD-VOBs).
But I guess this is a way you don't need to do when DVDshrink is working.
This 1GB Limit on DVD's has to do with the ISO/UDF Filesystem on a Video-DVD.
On a FAT32 formatted HDD files can have a size of 4GB.
On a NTFS formatted HDD I don't know the filesize-limit(if there is any) - so you won't reach this limit with a single video-movie.[/quote]
thanks, you are right, the Blu-Ray are 25 GB with no VOB files, i bought a few actual Blu-Ray yesterday, along with a PC BluRay Disk player, I also upgraded to an 18 TB system in a Home Entertainment Media Device, 1 internal 2TB and and multi-HDD USB cradles for the other 8 2TB drives, i have external Sata ports on my PC for file transfer
i really dont see what the big fuss is about, Blu-Ray quality doesnt really look much better on an averagely big HD Flat panel
anyway, I still need to do all my VOB converting, but thanks for the workflow for Blu-Ray, i will have to play around with the blu-ray contents.. i dont know anything about them yet, or what does what, and what you can do without.
i wont be buying any duplicate Blu-rays that i own on DVD, and for now and the foreseeable future most of the space will still be used for a large amount of childrens movies, cartoons, Tom & Jerry, Looney Toons, Disney, Pixar, etc, as well as all the superhero movies from marvel, hasbro, etc, and all the epic war movies and historical-based movies like dances with wolves, 300, gladiator, troy, brave heart, the patriot, etc, and an extrmely large amount of BBC specials like planet earth, walking with dinosaurs, space, blue planet, etc etc, as well as old series like all the original Sherlock Homes etc.. and also a large amount of how-to videos, such as cooking, Martial Arts, yoga, Pilates, art classes, mechanical stuff, a large number of educational tutorials and podcasts from itunes and youtube and other how-to hobby, craft, skill, and technique sites, etc etc etc etc etc
I always thought it would be best to keep the video at the same DVD quality, on Blu-Ray, and instead put in "Choose Your Own Adventure" capabilities with the extra space, in effect holding 8 more movies on the BluRay disk, which are really just alternate sequences of he same movie, with 8 times the run-time, as most all movies made have at t least that much usable footage anyway
i thought it could revolutionize the way movies were made, not just make the same movie 8 times bigger,
i mean really.. how big are flat panels actually going to get, our walls will have to be bigger, and our ceilings higher..
Choose you own adventures in DVD9 quality on blu ray disks would be worth each and every penny, as you would never see it the same way twice, there are literally hundreds or thousands of possible movie combinations
You can imagine the VOBS as simple containers for (MPEG2)Video/Audio. And the IFOS keep all the infos about the different clips, chapters, menus, menu-buttons and point to different places in the VOB files.
Theoretically you could mix all chapters in the VOBS together and over the IFOS the movie would play just normal from start to end.
Demuxing is a more complicated way for editing DVD or DVB material. To describe it I have to start with the TS files.
A TS-file contains the raw Video/Audio-data that is streamed over DVB-S/DVB-T/DVB-C. The TS-file can be compared with the VOB-file.
There are tools to cut those TS-files directly, but you can't cut the video on every frame. Therefore you have to demux the streams out of the VOB/TS-file(ProjectX is a perfect tool for that).
Then you will have a *.m2v file with the video-stream and one or more audio-streams(*.ac3 or *.mp2). With Cuttermaran and HCEnc I'm able to cut the recording on each frame. This is very helpful for commercials or so.
Then I can remux it to a TS file or I can use DVDauthor for example to make a DVD-structure (But I have to make a new own DVD-menu then - the old will be lost from demuxed DVD-VOBs).
But I guess this is a way you don't need to do when DVDshrink is working.
This 1GB Limit on DVD's has to do with the ISO/UDF Filesystem on a Video-DVD.
On a FAT32 formatted HDD files can have a size of 4GB.
On a NTFS formatted HDD I don't know the filesize-limit(if there is any) - so you won't reach this limit with a single video-movie.
thanks, you are right, the Blu-Ray are 25 GB with no VOB files, i bought a few actual Blu-Ray yesterday, along with a PC BluRay Disk player, I also upgraded to an 18 TB system in a Home Entertainment Media Device, 1 internal 2TB and and multi-HDD USB cradles for the other 8 2TB drives, i have external Sata ports on my PC for file transfer
i really dont see what the big fuss is about, Blu-Ray quality doesnt really look much better on an averagely big HD Flat panel
anyway, I still need to do all my VOB converting, but thanks for the workflow for Blu-Ray, i will have to play around with the blu-ray contents.. i dont know anything about them yet, or what does what, and what you can do without.
i wont be buying any duplicate Blu-rays that i own on DVD, and for now and the foreseeable future most of the space will still be used for a large amount of childrens movies, cartoons, Tom & Jerry, Looney Toons, Disney, Pixar, etc, as well as all the superhero movies from marvel, hasbro, etc, and all the epic war movies and historical-based movies like dances with wolves, 300, gladiator, troy, brave heart, the patriot, etc, and an extrmely large amount of BBC specials like planet earth, walking with dinosaurs, space, blue planet, etc etc, as well as old series like all the original Sherlock Homes etc.. and also a large amount of how-to videos, such as cooking, Martial Arts, yoga, Pilates, art classes, mechanical stuff, a large number of educational tutorials and podcasts from itunes and youtube and other how-to hobby, craft, skill, and technique sites, etc etc etc etc etc
I always thought it would be best to keep the video at the same DVD quality, on Blu-Ray, and instead put in "Choose Your Own Adventure" capabilities with the extra space, in effect holding 8 more movies on the BluRay disk, which are really just alternate sequences of he same movie, with 8 times the run-time, as most all movies made have at t least that much usable footage anyway
i thought it could revolutionize the way movies were made, not just make the same movie 8 times bigger,
i mean really.. how big are flat panels actually going to get, our walls will have to be bigger, and our ceilings higher..
Choose you own adventures in DVD9 quality on blu ray disks would be worth each and every penny, as you would never see it the same way twice, there are literally hundreds or thousands of possible movie combinations