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Defense Grid 2 is out! The first game was one of my all-time favorite games, in no small part because it was also one of the first that I played in 3D. However, DG2 does not even attempt to start in 3D, no light on the emitter. I saw another thread from a while back where people who had the beta said it was enabled (but with 'broken' some effects), but I can't get it to start in 3D at all. Game is set to my screen's native resolution with v-sync enabled. There is no profile for it in nvinspector. I took a quick look through some config files but nothing seemed to be related. I really don't even want to start to play this game without 3D... :( Any ideas?
Defense Grid 2 is out! The first game was one of my all-time favorite games, in no small part because it was also one of the first that I played in 3D. However, DG2 does not even attempt to start in 3D, no light on the emitter. I saw another thread from a while back where people who had the beta said it was enabled (but with 'broken' some effects), but I can't get it to start in 3D at all. Game is set to my screen's native resolution with v-sync enabled. There is no profile for it in nvinspector. I took a quick look through some config files but nothing seemed to be related. I really don't even want to start to play this game without 3D... :( Any ideas?

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#1
Posted 09/25/2014 01:41 PM   
It's probably running in a window, or in borderless window mode. Press alt enter.
It's probably running in a window, or in borderless window mode. Press alt enter.

#2
Posted 09/25/2014 02:07 PM   
Ashamed I didn't think of that before, however that still has no effect (no visible change at all as if it is blocked). You're right though, it does appear to be running in a fullscreen borderless window.
Ashamed I didn't think of that before, however that still has no effect (no visible change at all as if it is blocked). You're right though, it does appear to be running in a fullscreen borderless window.

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#3
Posted 09/25/2014 04:00 PM   
Alternatively, is there anyone that has the retail (Steam) version that DOES have working 3D?
Alternatively, is there anyone that has the retail (Steam) version that DOES have working 3D?

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#4
Posted 09/25/2014 07:43 PM   
What about switching the profile to Aion with NVidia inspector
What about switching the profile to Aion with NVidia inspector

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#5
Posted 09/25/2014 07:47 PM   
[quote="zig11727"]What about switching the profile to Aion with NVidia inspector[/quote] Or worldofwarcraft Either or will initiate 3D in fake fullscreen/windowed mode for DX9 APPLICATIONS. You can tell if its fake fullscreen or not by hitting WINDOWS key on keyboard and if it brings up taskbar while application is still running it is fake full screen mode. Aion has different "properties" then worldofwarcraft so one may work better then other as far as compatibility. [url]http://helixmod.blogspot.com/2013/03/how-to-change-3d-vision-profile-and.html[/url]
zig11727 said:What about switching the profile to Aion with NVidia inspector

Or worldofwarcraft

Either or will initiate 3D in fake fullscreen/windowed mode for DX9 APPLICATIONS. You can tell if its fake fullscreen or not by hitting WINDOWS key on keyboard and if it brings up taskbar while application is still running it is fake full screen mode.

Aion has different "properties" then worldofwarcraft so one may work better then other as far as compatibility.
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#6
Posted 09/26/2014 02:22 AM   
Really appreciate the tips but unfortunately neither profile seems to have an effect. :(
Really appreciate the tips but unfortunately neither profile seems to have an effect. :(

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#7
Posted 09/26/2014 04:25 AM   
Are you doing it in the menus, or ingame?
Are you doing it in the menus, or ingame?

#8
Posted 09/26/2014 08:51 AM   
I took a look at this with the debugger, and the game is DX11. It also uses windowed mode, and has no full-screen option. It runs with 3Dmigoto, and even allows shader hunting. But, no 3D. When I force full-screen mode with 3Dmigoto, the game crashes. I read that it might be possible to rename the exe to "googleearth.exe" to get 3D in windowed mode, but of course Steam version locks that out.
I took a look at this with the debugger, and the game is DX11. It also uses windowed mode, and has no full-screen option.

It runs with 3Dmigoto, and even allows shader hunting. But, no 3D. When I force full-screen mode with 3Dmigoto, the game crashes.


I read that it might be possible to rename the exe to "googleearth.exe" to get 3D in windowed mode, but of course Steam version locks that out.

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#9
Posted 09/26/2014 11:15 AM   
Bob....try to copy the dxgi.dll file from the chiri's original refresh/resolution wrapper. Happens to me in NFS Most Wanted 2012 when i try 3dmigoto. I have to force the refresh because of 3DTV Play and that file is needed....i don't know why. If you don't have that file i can upload today night.
Bob....try to copy the dxgi.dll file from the chiri's original refresh/resolution wrapper. Happens to me in NFS Most Wanted 2012 when i try 3dmigoto. I have to force the refresh because of 3DTV Play and that file is needed....i don't know why.

If you don't have that file i can upload today night.

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#10
Posted 09/26/2014 12:04 PM   
I do remember it taking a little fiddling to get it to start in 3d during the beta. From what I saw, and what I've learned from bo3b, disabling a few shaders would probably make this look great in 3d. Though I only looked around the map, it's quite possible that there are a bunch of broken shaders relating to towers and aliens. I don't have the full game, so I can't test it. I'll probably pick it up during a sale.
I do remember it taking a little fiddling to get it to start in 3d during the beta. From what I saw, and what I've learned from bo3b, disabling a few shaders would probably make this look great in 3d. Though I only looked around the map, it's quite possible that there are a bunch of broken shaders relating to towers and aliens.

I don't have the full game, so I can't test it. I'll probably pick it up during a sale.

#11
Posted 09/26/2014 01:15 PM   
Don't hold your breath for this one. I'm the biggest fan of DG1 ever, and this is just sad. The game runs windowed mode only, and if I force it full-screen it will crash or hang. I got it to run in Discover mode, by setting the profile to be GoogleEarth, because GoogleEarth can run DX11 in windowed mode. Still no luck in getting 3D Vision to activate though. After getting it working in Discover, it's pretty broken. All shadows are broken like you'd expect, and some lights. When I take a screen snapshot in Discover mode, it makes a side-by-side image. [img]http://sg.bo3b.net/dg2/DefenseGrid2_Release04_85.jps[/img] [img]http://sg.bo3b.net/dg2/DefenseGrid2_Release05_85.jps[/img] [img]http://sg.bo3b.net/dg2/DefenseGrid2_Release01_85.jps[/img] I disabled the primary shadows as a first pass check, and it's better, but still not playable. [img]http://sg.bo3b.net/dg2/DefenseGrid2_Release07_85.jps[/img] [img]http://sg.bo3b.net/dg2/DefenseGrid2_Release08_85.jps[/img] [img]http://sg.bo3b.net/dg2/DefenseGrid2_Release09_85.jps[/img]
Don't hold your breath for this one. I'm the biggest fan of DG1 ever, and this is just sad.

The game runs windowed mode only, and if I force it full-screen it will crash or hang. I got it to run in Discover mode, by setting the profile to be GoogleEarth, because GoogleEarth can run DX11 in windowed mode. Still no luck in getting 3D Vision to activate though.


After getting it working in Discover, it's pretty broken. All shadows are broken like you'd expect, and some lights. When I take a screen snapshot in Discover mode, it makes a side-by-side image.

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I disabled the primary shadows as a first pass check, and it's better, but still not playable.

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#12
Posted 09/27/2014 04:51 AM   
Massively disappointing. :( Thanks for looking though bo3b.
Massively disappointing. :( Thanks for looking though bo3b.

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#13
Posted 09/27/2014 02:10 PM   
[quote="bo3b"]Don't hold your breath for this one. I'm the biggest fan of DG1 ever, and this is just sad. The game runs windowed mode only, and if I force it full-screen it will crash or hang. I got it to run in Discover mode, by setting the profile to be GoogleEarth, because GoogleEarth can run DX11 in windowed mode. Still no luck in getting 3D Vision to activate though. After getting it working in Discover, it's pretty broken. All shadows are broken like you'd expect, and some lights. When I take a screen snapshot in Discover mode, it makes a side-by-side image. [img]http://sg.bo3b.net/dg2/DefenseGrid2_Release04_85.jps[/img] [img]http://sg.bo3b.net/dg2/DefenseGrid2_Release05_85.jps[/img] [img]http://sg.bo3b.net/dg2/DefenseGrid2_Release01_85.jps[/img] I disabled the primary shadows as a first pass check, and it's better, but still not playable. [img]http://sg.bo3b.net/dg2/DefenseGrid2_Release07_85.jps[/img] [img]http://sg.bo3b.net/dg2/DefenseGrid2_Release08_85.jps[/img] [img]http://sg.bo3b.net/dg2/DefenseGrid2_Release09_85.jps[/img][/quote] Thanks bo3b. Have you tried the WoW profile, that worked for TESO (well in DX9 anyway)?
bo3b said:Don't hold your breath for this one. I'm the biggest fan of DG1 ever, and this is just sad.

The game runs windowed mode only, and if I force it full-screen it will crash or hang. I got it to run in Discover mode, by setting the profile to be GoogleEarth, because GoogleEarth can run DX11 in windowed mode. Still no luck in getting 3D Vision to activate though.


After getting it working in Discover, it's pretty broken. All shadows are broken like you'd expect, and some lights. When I take a screen snapshot in Discover mode, it makes a side-by-side image.

Image

Image

Image


I disabled the primary shadows as a first pass check, and it's better, but still not playable.

Image

Image

Image


Thanks bo3b. Have you tried the WoW profile, that worked for TESO (well in DX9 anyway)?

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#14
Posted 09/27/2014 04:49 PM   
Yep, I did try the WoW profile as well, since it also will theoretically work for DX11 games that are windowed. No love. 3D didn't engage. I don't think I tried the Discover mode there.
Yep, I did try the WoW profile as well, since it also will theoretically work for DX11 games that are windowed. No love. 3D didn't engage. I don't think I tried the Discover mode there.

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#15
Posted 09/27/2014 10:31 PM   
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