I received my 3D Vision kit today but didn't realize that you still needed an officially compatible monitor to use 3D Vision.
I've done some research in regards to spoofing my monitor ID and all but any threads talking about the PG279Q are all years old and dead - with nothing more than speculation inside them.
I was thinking I could potentially use an EDID from a PG278Q but as far as my attempts have gone I just get an out of range error on my monitor when I try.
Thanks all for your time :)
I received my 3D Vision kit today but didn't realize that you still needed an officially compatible monitor to use 3D Vision.
I've done some research in regards to spoofing my monitor ID and all but any threads talking about the PG279Q are all years old and dead - with nothing more than speculation inside them.
I was thinking I could potentially use an EDID from a PG278Q but as far as my attempts have gone I just get an out of range error on my monitor when I try.
[quote="nerdbasher"]I received my 3D Vision kit today but didn't realize that you still needed an officially compatible monitor to use 3D Vision.[/quote]
Yah, that part sucksss!
Be sure to hold onto that kit, Nvidia is no longer making them. Once you get 3D working, you'll be glad you did. This might require a new monitor though.
There's a few things that "might" keep your ISP panel from working well with 3D because of crosstalk issues that can not be resolved. ISP panels are slower to transition pixels from one color to another. This pixel persistence can cause crosstalk, because the Nvidia emitter's USB timings are matched to TN panels and no one knows how to alter the timing used.
ISP panels work in 3DHD TVs just fine, because the sync is controlled by the display manufacturer to match it to the screen refresh accordingly.
So you might try an EDID or Displayid from a V1 display that was prior to LightBoost/ULMB. Like the Samsung 2233RZ SAM04EA or possibly SAMO4EA, I'm not sure if it's a zero or an O (respectively)
AFAIK and assume, the sync is slower on older panels, but sped up to match V2 panels.
nerdbasher said:I received my 3D Vision kit today but didn't realize that you still needed an officially compatible monitor to use 3D Vision.
Yah, that part sucksss!
Be sure to hold onto that kit, Nvidia is no longer making them. Once you get 3D working, you'll be glad you did. This might require a new monitor though.
There's a few things that "might" keep your ISP panel from working well with 3D because of crosstalk issues that can not be resolved. ISP panels are slower to transition pixels from one color to another. This pixel persistence can cause crosstalk, because the Nvidia emitter's USB timings are matched to TN panels and no one knows how to alter the timing used.
ISP panels work in 3DHD TVs just fine, because the sync is controlled by the display manufacturer to match it to the screen refresh accordingly.
So you might try an EDID or Displayid from a V1 display that was prior to LightBoost/ULMB. Like the Samsung 2233RZ SAM04EA or possibly SAMO4EA, I'm not sure if it's a zero or an O (respectively)
AFAIK and assume, the sync is slower on older panels, but sped up to match V2 panels.
A list of displayids is here
https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/1009715/3d-vision/list-of-3d-vision-ready-hardware/
You can use CRU by ToastyX to change it
[quote="john105"]If you open C:\Program Files (x86)\NVIDIA Corporation\3D Vision\nvtimings.ini, you will see that each officially supported monitor has a lot of timing parameters. Using EDID override from a random monitor makes the driver use the wrong timings from it. I don't think that it's possible to get the best crosstalk results from an unsupported monitor without tweaking the timings.[/quote]
There's this post
[quote="dtopheenko"]Hello! Also I can say that the 3D Vision works perfectly even on a Samsung C32HG70 (FreeSync rather than G-Sync!) monitor with VA panel (with overriding EDID from Dell S2716DG).[/quote]
I've no idea how perfect perfectly is, he never posted any pics, nor any follow up posts, other than this.
[quote="dtopheenko"]My tests above, but in games like Crysis 3 or Deus Ex MD I'm almost not feeling crosstalk issue (but yes, it's exists). And I think that better to buy perfect general purpose monitor like this model with VA panel, rather than bought TN-Film.[/quote]
john105 said:If you open C:\Program Files (x86)\NVIDIA Corporation\3D Vision\nvtimings.ini, you will see that each officially supported monitor has a lot of timing parameters. Using EDID override from a random monitor makes the driver use the wrong timings from it. I don't think that it's possible to get the best crosstalk results from an unsupported monitor without tweaking the timings.
There's this post
dtopheenko said:Hello! Also I can say that the 3D Vision works perfectly even on a Samsung C32HG70 (FreeSync rather than G-Sync!) monitor with VA panel (with overriding EDID from Dell S2716DG).
I've no idea how perfect perfectly is, he never posted any pics, nor any follow up posts, other than this.
dtopheenko said:My tests above, but in games like Crysis 3 or Deus Ex MD I'm almost not feeling crosstalk issue (but yes, it's exists). And I think that better to buy perfect general purpose monitor like this model with VA panel, rather than bought TN-Film.
Thanks D-Man, you've definitely set me on the right track.
No big success after using the Dell S2716DG EDID nor the Asus PG278Q (I realised I'd done it wrong the first time) - just a whole lot of crosstalk.
I'll keep fiddling around and see if I have any luck, just wanted to thank you for now as you've helped a bunch.
Also, to anyone potentially reading this in the future in the same situation - if I ever have any luck I'll report back with my solution for you. I won't let this be another one of those dead threads for a super specific problem.
Thanks D-Man, you've definitely set me on the right track.
No big success after using the Dell S2716DG EDID nor the Asus PG278Q (I realised I'd done it wrong the first time) - just a whole lot of crosstalk.
I'll keep fiddling around and see if I have any luck, just wanted to thank you for now as you've helped a bunch.
Also, to anyone potentially reading this in the future in the same situation - if I ever have any luck I'll report back with my solution for you. I won't let this be another one of those dead threads for a super specific problem.
Be sure to lower sharpness, brightness and contrast to see if crosstalk can be improved.
As well as trying any available Display settings. Motion overdrive or backlight adjustments, etc...
I've done some research in regards to spoofing my monitor ID and all but any threads talking about the PG279Q are all years old and dead - with nothing more than speculation inside them.
I was thinking I could potentially use an EDID from a PG278Q but as far as my attempts have gone I just get an out of range error on my monitor when I try.
Thanks all for your time :)
Yah, that part sucksss!
Be sure to hold onto that kit, Nvidia is no longer making them. Once you get 3D working, you'll be glad you did. This might require a new monitor though.
There's a few things that "might" keep your ISP panel from working well with 3D because of crosstalk issues that can not be resolved. ISP panels are slower to transition pixels from one color to another. This pixel persistence can cause crosstalk, because the Nvidia emitter's USB timings are matched to TN panels and no one knows how to alter the timing used.
ISP panels work in 3DHD TVs just fine, because the sync is controlled by the display manufacturer to match it to the screen refresh accordingly.
So you might try an EDID or Displayid from a V1 display that was prior to LightBoost/ULMB. Like the Samsung 2233RZ SAM04EA or possibly SAMO4EA, I'm not sure if it's a zero or an O (respectively)
AFAIK and assume, the sync is slower on older panels, but sped up to match V2 panels.
https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/1009715/3d-vision/list-of-3d-vision-ready-hardware/
You can use CRU by ToastyX to change it
There's this post
I've no idea how perfect perfectly is, he never posted any pics, nor any follow up posts, other than this.
No big success after using the Dell S2716DG EDID nor the Asus PG278Q (I realised I'd done it wrong the first time) - just a whole lot of crosstalk.
I'll keep fiddling around and see if I have any luck, just wanted to thank you for now as you've helped a bunch.
Also, to anyone potentially reading this in the future in the same situation - if I ever have any luck I'll report back with my solution for you. I won't let this be another one of those dead threads for a super specific problem.
As well as trying any available Display settings. Motion overdrive or backlight adjustments, etc...