Request: Option to invert left/right sync in future drivers updates
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Four or five years later since this topic has begun...
Today is 21/03/2016,
I've just chatted with support about this looooong lasting issue, here is the discussion:
[quote]
Support: Hi. How may I help you?
Ghanth: Hi, I am a 3Dvision/3DTV enthusiast, since years ago.
I need to invert 3Dsync (switch left/right eye) in order to have proper settings with my projector.
I remember it was as easy as to check "invert Sync" in previous drivers, but this essential option seems to have disappeared in recent drivers.
How can i invert sync now ?
Support: Do you have 3D vision setup or 3D TV play software?
Ghanth: yes 3DTV play software
Support: Please go to NVIDIA control panel->system information->display->save the file and send it to me.
Ghanth: ok.please wait...
Support: Sure
File attachment upload has started.
The file NVIDIA System Information 03-21-2016 17-25-37.txt (4.34KB) was received.
Support: Thank you for the attachment
Ghanth: you're welcome
Support: When did you update the driver?
Ghanth: some month ago if i remember well
Support: Do you mean before this version which you have now?
Ghanth: oh it's been a while when i had this problem for the first time... some years ago
Ghanth: so i can't tell you witch driver version had the "invert sync" option
Support: I see this feature has been removed and it will not added in future as well because we are fixing the Sync issue with the driver itself
Support: What is the issue you have right now
Ghanth: the left and right eye are inverted
Support: The issue could be due to previous driver component still available so I will give you the advanced troubleshooting steps which will delete the entire display component including the registry for graphic driver; basically it will help if there is any glitch due to previous driver component.
Support: Please follow the steps as mentioned below, this would help to delete the previous driver component
Firstly, reboot the computer to safe mode with networking and download NVIDIA Display Driver Uninstaller from the below link.
http://www.guru3d.com/files-get/display-driver-uninstaller-download,20.html
How to go in safe mode with networking in windows 7: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kynlaYPDbeI
How to perform DDU: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n06-9SRHR3M
After the download, install it and follow the below steps.
-> Select the Graphics Driver as NVIDIA on top
-> Click on Clean and Restart
Once you download it. Run the tool and remove all the NVIDIA Files with the above steps and the computer will restart automatically.
Now download the drivers 364.51 from the below link with the same instructions and see if that works.
http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/99506/en-us
a) Click on the link provided above.
b) Click on "Download". On the next page click "Agree and Download".
c) After the download has finished, install the file using custom installation.
d) Tick mark "Perform Clean Install" and go ahead with the installation process.
e) Restart the computer after finishing the installation.
Ghanth: ok but you told me this invert feature has been removed in recent drivers
Ghanth: so what's the point ?
Support: Yes but using that driver it will have good sync with the 3D
Ghanth: Just to make sure we are talking about the same thing... 3DTV play as inverted sync compared to my projector's synch
Ghanth: before it was just a checkbox to check to fix this issue
Support: yes, but now this has been removed so we are trying with latest driver to sync more with the glasses
Support: This was in the legacy driver not the latest driver, please check the official information from here: https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/506538/request-option-to-invert-left-right-sync-in-future-drivers-updates/
Ghanth: ...Thanks for the link. I'm reading it
Support: Sure, thank you for the efforts
Support: Thank you for contacting NVIDIA Customer Care. Have a great day ahead
Support has disconnected.
[/quote]
...
So i've ended here.
funny ? or sad ? i donno... i have a complete reinstall process to do for a try and will tell you if it was worth it.
Anyway, strange thinking @ nVidia ! Those curious people are considering it's better to try a 10 steps re-instalation process that could possibly work ... or not work in the end, rather than giving a simple option to fix the problem instanly and effectively... Wooow!
Strange conception of efficiency.
Why make things simple ? Why not loose five years, and many customers. Why not make 3Dvision a complete garbage, uh ?
Four or five years later since this topic has begun...
Today is 21/03/2016,
I've just chatted with support about this looooong lasting issue, here is the discussion:
Support: Hi. How may I help you?
Ghanth: Hi, I am a 3Dvision/3DTV enthusiast, since years ago.
I need to invert 3Dsync (switch left/right eye) in order to have proper settings with my projector.
I remember it was as easy as to check "invert Sync" in previous drivers, but this essential option seems to have disappeared in recent drivers.
How can i invert sync now ?
Support: Do you have 3D vision setup or 3D TV play software?
Ghanth: yes 3DTV play software
Support: Please go to NVIDIA control panel->system information->display->save the file and send it to me.
Ghanth: ok.please wait...
Support: Sure
File attachment upload has started.
The file NVIDIA System Information 03-21-2016 17-25-37.txt (4.34KB) was received.
Support: Thank you for the attachment
Ghanth: you're welcome
Support: When did you update the driver?
Ghanth: some month ago if i remember well
Support: Do you mean before this version which you have now?
Ghanth: oh it's been a while when i had this problem for the first time... some years ago
Ghanth: so i can't tell you witch driver version had the "invert sync" option
Support: I see this feature has been removed and it will not added in future as well because we are fixing the Sync issue with the driver itself
Support: What is the issue you have right now
Ghanth: the left and right eye are inverted
Support: The issue could be due to previous driver component still available so I will give you the advanced troubleshooting steps which will delete the entire display component including the registry for graphic driver; basically it will help if there is any glitch due to previous driver component.
Support: Please follow the steps as mentioned below, this would help to delete the previous driver component
How to go in safe mode with networking in windows 7:
How to perform DDU:
After the download, install it and follow the below steps.
-> Select the Graphics Driver as NVIDIA on top
-> Click on Clean and Restart
Once you download it. Run the tool and remove all the NVIDIA Files with the above steps and the computer will restart automatically.
Now download the drivers 364.51 from the below link with the same instructions and see if that works.
http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/99506/en-us a) Click on the link provided above.
b) Click on "Download". On the next page click "Agree and Download".
c) After the download has finished, install the file using custom installation.
d) Tick mark "Perform Clean Install" and go ahead with the installation process.
e) Restart the computer after finishing the installation.
Ghanth: ok but you told me this invert feature has been removed in recent drivers
Ghanth: so what's the point ?
Support: Yes but using that driver it will have good sync with the 3D
Ghanth: Just to make sure we are talking about the same thing... 3DTV play as inverted sync compared to my projector's synch
Ghanth: before it was just a checkbox to check to fix this issue
Support: yes, but now this has been removed so we are trying with latest driver to sync more with the glasses
Support: Sure, thank you for the efforts
Support: Thank you for contacting NVIDIA Customer Care. Have a great day ahead
Support has disconnected.
...
So i've ended here.
funny ? or sad ? i donno... i have a complete reinstall process to do for a try and will tell you if it was worth it.
Anyway, strange thinking @ nVidia ! Those curious people are considering it's better to try a 10 steps re-instalation process that could possibly work ... or not work in the end, rather than giving a simple option to fix the problem instanly and effectively... Wooow!
Strange conception of efficiency.
Why make things simple ? Why not loose five years, and many customers. Why not make 3Dvision a complete garbage, uh ?
@Ghanth
In recent 3Dmigoto version, DarkStarSword add a feature to include SBS and T&B Mode.....BUT also add "Reversed 3Dvision", that's is basically the 3Dvision/3D TV Play output, but with the eyes INVERTED.
[code][KeyChangeMode]
key = F11
; 0 = Regular 3D Vision
; 1 = Reversed 3D Vision
; 2 = Side by Side
; 3 = Reversed Side by Side
; 4 = Top and Bottom
; 5 = Reversed Top and Bottom[/code]
Use this option in the [Constants] section from the d3dx.ini
[code]x7 = 1[/code]
Some games have already that feature in the fix release: RIse of the Tomb Raider, Dying Light, Far Cry Primal....but you can add to any DX11 game....some games still have bugs with this feature, but there are a few.
Read here for setup a game:
[url]https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/912552/3d-vision/modifying-3d-vision-to-support-sbs/post/4819779/#4819779[/url]
Time ago, some user post a image of an nvidia employees....was a MINION's screenshots with the Nvidia logo.....I'm starting to believe is actually TRUE!!!
5 YEARS!!! same for SBS and TB support....and still nothing from Nvidia....amazing!!
In recent 3Dmigoto version, DarkStarSword add a feature to include SBS and T&B Mode.....BUT also add "Reversed 3Dvision", that's is basically the 3Dvision/3D TV Play output, but with the eyes INVERTED.
[KeyChangeMode]
key = F11
; 0 = Regular 3D Vision
; 1 = Reversed 3D Vision
; 2 = Side by Side
; 3 = Reversed Side by Side
; 4 = Top and Bottom
; 5 = Reversed Top and Bottom
Use this option in the [Constants] section from the d3dx.ini
x7 = 1
Some games have already that feature in the fix release: RIse of the Tomb Raider, Dying Light, Far Cry Primal....but you can add to any DX11 game....some games still have bugs with this feature, but there are a few.
Time ago, some user post a image of an nvidia employees....was a MINION's screenshots with the Nvidia logo.....I'm starting to believe is actually TRUE!!!
5 YEARS!!! same for SBS and TB support....and still nothing from Nvidia....amazing!!
Hi DHR, and thank you for your positive help.
I know you guys are working hard to save 3D vision/3DTV Play from melting into complete garbage ! Appreciative, really.
May this force inspire nVidia one day...
So, Yeah! it's a very good news this has been possible to include this feature in 3Dmigoto but... it does solve things partially only for dx11 games.
In our particular case, we need to invert 3D sync at driver level permanently for everything related to stereo as we use DLP link projector that has default reverted sync from the factory. This means that the driver has to adapt its sync to it so everything including dx9,dx11 games, 3D movies and so on will display the right way.
In the end of the story, no more boring stuff on the user side, at least!
nVidia can you hear us now five years has passed ?
3DVisionary was right from the day one and everybody agree about that on the user side
[quote="3DVisionary"]
A simple checkbox would resolve all the sync inversion problems with any combination of GPU, drivers, displays, software, version of DirectX etc.
[/quote]
5 years later it's crystal clear for everyone... [s]except for jackass perhaps[/s]...
I know you guys are working hard to save 3D vision/3DTV Play from melting into complete garbage ! Appreciative, really.
May this force inspire nVidia one day...
So, Yeah! it's a very good news this has been possible to include this feature in 3Dmigoto but... it does solve things partially only for dx11 games.
In our particular case, we need to invert 3D sync at driver level permanently for everything related to stereo as we use DLP link projector that has default reverted sync from the factory. This means that the driver has to adapt its sync to it so everything including dx9,dx11 games, 3D movies and so on will display the right way.
In the end of the story, no more boring stuff on the user side, at least!
nVidia can you hear us now five years has passed ?
3DVisionary was right from the day one and everybody agree about that on the user side
3DVisionary said:
A simple checkbox would resolve all the sync inversion problems with any combination of GPU, drivers, displays, software, version of DirectX etc.
5 years later it's crystal clear for everyone... except for jackass perhaps...
@Garth
A year ago I purchased 3D glasses for my Samsung 46c7000 which inverted the eye order on the 3D glasses.
As I recall to switch the eye order all you had to do is hold the power button on for five seconds.
I think the glasses were made by 3DTV corp.
Hi zig!
Many projectors of many brands do not have an option to invert sync permanently. This takes a 10 step press hold action on the remote to actually invert sync on my projector. There is no way i can save this setting with the remote nor with the glasses as you suggested. There is no way i can change the synch of my projector permanently.
nVidia has to anderstand this is not an isolated case, it's a general issue concerning many different DLP link projectors of many brands.
@ you all
Sadly the clean-reinstall-to-lastest-driver-procedure described above did nothing better. The inverted sync remains in the end and there is no way this jackass driver adapt to it nor gives you the possiblility to settle sync as needed.
Do not waste your time trying it.
Anyway I went back to chat with nVidia support and found someone who told me he will help the cause... little light there.
Many projectors of many brands do not have an option to invert sync permanently. This takes a 10 step press hold action on the remote to actually invert sync on my projector. There is no way i can save this setting with the remote nor with the glasses as you suggested. There is no way i can change the synch of my projector permanently.
nVidia has to anderstand this is not an isolated case, it's a general issue concerning many different DLP link projectors of many brands.
@ you all
Sadly the clean-reinstall-to-lastest-driver-procedure described above did nothing better. The inverted sync remains in the end and there is no way this jackass driver adapt to it nor gives you the possiblility to settle sync as needed.
Do not waste your time trying it.
Anyway I went back to chat with nVidia support and found someone who told me he will help the cause... little light there.
Today is 21/03/2016,
I've just chatted with support about this looooong lasting issue, here is the discussion:
...
So i've ended here.
funny ? or sad ? i donno... i have a complete reinstall process to do for a try and will tell you if it was worth it.
Anyway, strange thinking @ nVidia ! Those curious people are considering it's better to try a 10 steps re-instalation process that could possibly work ... or not work in the end, rather than giving a simple option to fix the problem instanly and effectively... Wooow!
Strange conception of efficiency.
Why make things simple ? Why not loose five years, and many customers. Why not make 3Dvision a complete garbage, uh ?
Helixmod fixes for 3Dvision / 3Dtvplay
My 3D stereo screenshots
Skyrim Natural Realizm - The 3Dvision Immersive ENB Hub page on Nexus
Skyrim Natural Realizm - The 3Dvision Immersive ENB Gallery
CPU: i7 @ 3.40
GhzRAM: 8Go DDR3
GPU(s): GTX980ti
Display(s): HTC Vive and OptomaHD33 projector with 3D-RF system (3DTVplay)
Result: Gorgious 3D gaming and VR experiences! :D
In recent 3Dmigoto version, DarkStarSword add a feature to include SBS and T&B Mode.....BUT also add "Reversed 3Dvision", that's is basically the 3Dvision/3D TV Play output, but with the eyes INVERTED.
Use this option in the [Constants] section from the d3dx.ini
Some games have already that feature in the fix release: RIse of the Tomb Raider, Dying Light, Far Cry Primal....but you can add to any DX11 game....some games still have bugs with this feature, but there are a few.
Read here for setup a game:
https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/912552/3d-vision/modifying-3d-vision-to-support-sbs/post/4819779/#4819779
Time ago, some user post a image of an nvidia employees....was a MINION's screenshots with the Nvidia logo.....I'm starting to believe is actually TRUE!!!
5 YEARS!!! same for SBS and TB support....and still nothing from Nvidia....amazing!!
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I know you guys are working hard to save 3D vision/3DTV Play from melting into complete garbage ! Appreciative, really.
May this force inspire nVidia one day...
So, Yeah! it's a very good news this has been possible to include this feature in 3Dmigoto but... it does solve things partially only for dx11 games.
In our particular case, we need to invert 3D sync at driver level permanently for everything related to stereo as we use DLP link projector that has default reverted sync from the factory. This means that the driver has to adapt its sync to it so everything including dx9,dx11 games, 3D movies and so on will display the right way.
In the end of the story, no more boring stuff on the user side, at least!
nVidia can you hear us now five years has passed ?
3DVisionary was right from the day one and everybody agree about that on the user side
5 years later it's crystal clear for everyone...
except for jackass perhaps...Helixmod fixes for 3Dvision / 3Dtvplay
My 3D stereo screenshots
Skyrim Natural Realizm - The 3Dvision Immersive ENB Hub page on Nexus
Skyrim Natural Realizm - The 3Dvision Immersive ENB Gallery
CPU: i7 @ 3.40
GhzRAM: 8Go DDR3
GPU(s): GTX980ti
Display(s): HTC Vive and OptomaHD33 projector with 3D-RF system (3DTVplay)
Result: Gorgious 3D gaming and VR experiences! :D
A year ago I purchased 3D glasses for my Samsung 46c7000 which inverted the eye order on the 3D glasses.
As I recall to switch the eye order all you had to do is hold the power button on for five seconds.
I think the glasses were made by 3DTV corp.
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Many projectors of many brands do not have an option to invert sync permanently. This takes a 10 step press hold action on the remote to actually invert sync on my projector. There is no way i can save this setting with the remote nor with the glasses as you suggested. There is no way i can change the synch of my projector permanently.
nVidia has to anderstand this is not an isolated case, it's a general issue concerning many different DLP link projectors of many brands.
@ you all
Sadly the clean-reinstall-to-lastest-driver-procedure described above did nothing better. The inverted sync remains in the end and there is no way this jackass driver adapt to it nor gives you the possiblility to settle sync as needed.
Do not waste your time trying it.
Anyway I went back to chat with nVidia support and found someone who told me he will help the cause... little light there.
Helixmod fixes for 3Dvision / 3Dtvplay
My 3D stereo screenshots
Skyrim Natural Realizm - The 3Dvision Immersive ENB Hub page on Nexus
Skyrim Natural Realizm - The 3Dvision Immersive ENB Gallery
CPU: i7 @ 3.40
GhzRAM: 8Go DDR3
GPU(s): GTX980ti
Display(s): HTC Vive and OptomaHD33 projector with 3D-RF system (3DTVplay)
Result: Gorgious 3D gaming and VR experiences! :D