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Use the Stabler far enough from the edge so if you still end up with wrinkles you have room to stretch some more and stable nearer the edge again
Use the Stabler far enough from the edge so if you still end up with wrinkles you have room to stretch some more and stable nearer the edge again

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#16
Posted 12/18/2018 12:40 PM   
I've just ordered the cinegrey5D from B&H for 196€ (incl. shipping). Additionally 44€ have to be paid in cash to DHL Express for taxes and duty. So that would be 240€ in amount. That's still pretty cheap! In the Elite Screens store the 130 inch screen would cost 1200€. Hope everything works with shipping & importing! I've paid with paypal so if there are any troubles with the seller I'll just let paypal handle this. I'll give an update when the material is there and building the frame worked or if I'm completely lost ;D.
I've just ordered the cinegrey5D from B&H for 196€ (incl. shipping). Additionally 44€ have to be paid in cash to DHL Express for taxes and duty. So that would be 240€ in amount. That's still pretty cheap! In the Elite Screens store the 130 inch screen would cost 1200€.

Hope everything works with shipping & importing! I've paid with paypal so if there are any troubles with the seller I'll just let paypal handle this.

I'll give an update when the material is there and building the frame worked or if I'm completely lost ;D.

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#17
Posted 12/18/2018 03:39 PM   
You'll be fine, if you can code something like 3dfix manager I'm sure you can cope with this. I'm more of an academic person rather that someone that works with my hands, that's why I said to rehearse it mentally first. As long as you get the materials intact it will be plain sailing and you'll save a fortune, honest. If you're anything like me, you'll spend 10 times as much time reading about it as what it actually takes to do it :-)
You'll be fine, if you can code something like 3dfix manager I'm sure you can cope with this. I'm more of an academic person rather that someone that works with my hands, that's why I said to rehearse it mentally first.
As long as you get the materials intact it will be plain sailing and you'll save a fortune, honest.

If you're anything like me, you'll spend 10 times as much time reading about it as what it actually takes to do it :-)

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#18
Posted 12/18/2018 08:17 PM   
@Captain0007 AVS Forums has many posts about DIY Screens using paints and/or a variety of materials such as cloth, vinyl etc. High gain screens will hotspot, so keep that in mind if considering one. You'll need to take the screen placement vs the projectors light angle/trajectory into consideration. This is really bad when getting above 1.5 and using a projector that needs to be aimed directly into the middle of the screen. As in a PJ that shoots the light out in a V shape, with the light output above and below the PJ are equal.
@Captain0007

AVS Forums has many posts about DIY Screens using paints and/or a variety of materials such as cloth, vinyl etc.

High gain screens will hotspot, so keep that in mind if considering one. You'll need to take the screen placement vs the projectors light angle/trajectory into consideration. This is really bad when getting above 1.5 and using a projector that needs to be aimed directly into the middle of the screen. As in a PJ that shoots the light out in a V shape, with the light output above and below the PJ are equal.

#19
Posted 12/20/2018 02:04 AM   
Thx for the tip D-Man11! Will search the forum! The Cinegrey5D meterial has a gain of 1.5. I'm not sure which is the best distance to position the projector. The frame I want to build shall have either 120" or 130" (I'm not quite sure yet - I think 130" is already a bit too large? Would hardly fit to my wall :D. Also the larger the screen the less brightness it will have. Or am I wrong with this assumption? @rusty: Yeah I fear I'm the same sort of people. Rather reading too much before doing something in practice :D.
Thx for the tip D-Man11! Will search the forum! The Cinegrey5D meterial has a gain of 1.5. I'm not sure which is the best distance to position the projector. The frame I want to build shall have either 120" or 130" (I'm not quite sure yet - I think 130" is already a bit too large? Would hardly fit to my wall :D. Also the larger the screen the less brightness it will have. Or am I wrong with this assumption?

@rusty: Yeah I fear I'm the same sort of people. Rather reading too much before doing something in practice :D.

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#20
Posted 12/20/2018 10:14 AM   
The bigger the better. If you watch any movies, most of them Are in that ass crack theater super wide format and then you wanna get as big as you can get. You know you can always project smaller dispite bigger screen. Some ball waxers might say oh but you need masking doh....Well then you can decide do you need or do not. Personally i think its waste of energy.
The bigger the better. If you watch any movies, most of them Are in that ass crack theater super wide format and then you wanna get as big as you can get. You know you can always project smaller dispite bigger screen. Some ball waxers might say oh but you need masking doh....Well then you can decide do you need or do not. Personally i think its waste of energy.

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#21
Posted 12/20/2018 12:34 PM   
[quote="D-Man11"]@Captain0007 AVS Forums has many posts about DIY Screens using paints and/or a variety of materials such as cloth, vinyl etc. High gain screens will hotspot, so keep that in mind if considering one. You'll need to take the screen placement vs the projectors light angle/trajectory into consideration. This is really bad when getting above 1.5 and using a projector that needs to be aimed directly into the middle of the screen. As in a PJ that shoots the light out in a V shape, with the light output above and below the PJ are equal.[/quote] @D-Man11 great info indeed. Those are exactly some of the reasons I'm concerned for and I can't use Cinegrey 5D or equivalent material for my particular set up. My set up is kinda extreme coz of sitting close and tight angles. It limits my choices for a good screen. I'm only considering a grey screen for better contrast in movies. I'm in apartment and we can't paint walls dark color. Bounced light causes washed out image. I'm thinking of covering walls with blackout curtains which can help with contrast. So after tons of research, weeks of digging, and considering my particular seating position, projector placement, and somewhat fair budget, I've finally decided and concluded that I'll go with ChromaWhite material from Elite Prime Vision. I need a white material screen with uncompromised viewing angles and highest gain brightness that is much needed for 3D. Grey screens can't work for me. They are too dim or they have bad viewing angles. It's a compromise I'm ready to make for 3D over contrast for movies. The highest brightness material without limiting viewing angles that I could find is ChromaWhite. Gain is 1.25 and 180 degree viewing cone; also ISF certified and 4K/8K compatible. Any material above this has flaws and tight angles, and I have looked at every major screen maker. For example Da-Lite's HD Progressive 1.3 - gain drops in brightness to 0.8 in angles beyond 25 degrees. So final for me is ChromaWhite 1.25. Good old fashioned white screen. Based on my research, surprisingly a great alternative turned out to be my existing Elunevision Cinema White 1.2 gain screens. It's very bright with ultra wide viewing angles. Contrast is not great but I expect same with ChromaWhite, plus I might use blackout curtains. Only issue is there's no review of it with 4K content, nor any 4K compatibility mentioned on Elunevision site. I'd have to test it myself with 4K once I receive my Optoma UHD50. Besides, max 3D gaming resolution is 1080p anyways so no compromise for 3D gaming. Any other wide angle material that I have searched turned out to be below in brightness and gain than the above two. Only closest next alternative is CineWhite UHD 1.15 gain from Elite Screens; 4K compatible and ISF certified; overall great material, but still no match in brightness to ChromaWhite. For movies I might still do dual screen, depends if I can take care of contrast with blackout curtains so dual screen may not be needed. I'd have to experiment with darkening the room as much as possible. I'd like to thank you all for opinions and tips. So long story short - first choice ChromaWhite, second alternative Cinema White 1.2, third alternative CineWhite UHD 1.15
D-Man11 said:@Captain0007

AVS Forums has many posts about DIY Screens using paints and/or a variety of materials such as cloth, vinyl etc.

High gain screens will hotspot, so keep that in mind if considering one. You'll need to take the screen placement vs the projectors light angle/trajectory into consideration. This is really bad when getting above 1.5 and using a projector that needs to be aimed directly into the middle of the screen. As in a PJ that shoots the light out in a V shape, with the light output above and below the PJ are equal.


@D-Man11 great info indeed. Those are exactly some of the reasons I'm concerned for and I can't use Cinegrey 5D or equivalent material for my particular set up. My set up is kinda extreme coz of sitting close and tight angles. It limits my choices for a good screen.

I'm only considering a grey screen for better contrast in movies. I'm in apartment and we can't paint walls dark color. Bounced light causes washed out image. I'm thinking of covering walls with blackout curtains which can help with contrast.

So after tons of research, weeks of digging, and considering my particular seating position, projector placement, and somewhat fair budget, I've finally decided and concluded that I'll go with ChromaWhite material from Elite Prime Vision. I need a white material screen with uncompromised viewing angles and highest gain brightness that is much needed for 3D. Grey screens can't work for me. They are too dim or they have bad viewing angles. It's a compromise I'm ready to make for 3D over contrast for movies.

The highest brightness material without limiting viewing angles that I could find is ChromaWhite. Gain is 1.25 and 180 degree viewing cone; also ISF certified and 4K/8K compatible. Any material above this has flaws and tight angles, and I have looked at every major screen maker. For example Da-Lite's HD Progressive 1.3 - gain drops in brightness to 0.8 in angles beyond 25 degrees. So final for me is ChromaWhite 1.25. Good old fashioned white screen.

Based on my research, surprisingly a great alternative turned out to be my existing Elunevision Cinema White 1.2 gain screens. It's very bright with ultra wide viewing angles. Contrast is not great but I expect same with ChromaWhite, plus I might use blackout curtains. Only issue is there's no review of it with 4K content, nor any 4K compatibility mentioned on Elunevision site. I'd have to test it myself with 4K once I receive my Optoma UHD50. Besides, max 3D gaming resolution is 1080p anyways so no compromise for 3D gaming.

Any other wide angle material that I have searched turned out to be below in brightness and gain than the above two. Only closest next alternative is CineWhite UHD 1.15 gain from Elite Screens; 4K compatible and ISF certified; overall great material, but still no match in brightness to ChromaWhite.

For movies I might still do dual screen, depends if I can take care of contrast with blackout curtains so dual screen may not be needed. I'd have to experiment with darkening the room as much as possible.

I'd like to thank you all for opinions and tips. So long story short - first choice ChromaWhite, second alternative Cinema White 1.2, third alternative CineWhite UHD 1.15

#22
Posted 12/22/2018 06:14 AM   
Best projector screen for 3D gaming - BIG 300" painted white wall!
Best projector screen for 3D gaming - BIG 300" painted white wall!

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#23
Posted 12/22/2018 11:28 AM   
did you use special paint?
did you use special paint?

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#24
Posted 12/22/2018 06:07 PM   
Hi Captain, For your purposes, I would advise you to look at BenQ TK800, since it is an incredibly sharp 4K projector with good color, good HDR performance, great motion handling, an HDMI 2.0 port capable of 4K HDR @ 60fps and enough lumens to deal with ambient light. Those are qualities that make for an excellent gaming display. Which is why I find the next spec to be so bittersweet. When it comes to 3D, I'll be honest, I'm not that picky when it comes to picture quality. My biggest concerns are: one, that the image is free of artifacts and cross talk and, two, that the image is comfortably bright. Armed with 3000 lumens I was very much looking forward to testing out the TK800 in 3D. I'm happy to report that the TK800's prodigious light output translates well creating a bright and punchy 3D image with little to no cross talk. While I noticed a bit more noise and what looked like some mild aliasing that is absent in my reference to [url=https://wisepick.org/best-3d-projector/]best 3D projector[/url], I would still consider this very good performance - with one large caveat. At 48ms the TK800 is currently one of the quickest 4K projectors on the market. It is, however, slow compared to 1080p displays that are now capable of sub-16ms input lag. I tend to be a bit of a snob when it comes to display latency and freely admit that many gamers will no doubt find 48ms acceptable for casual gaming. Still, I would absolutely love if BenQ could find a way to reduce input lag to at least 33ms. Playing through the PS4 exclusive God of War (2018) in glorious 4K HDR with an uncapped frame rate on a 100" screen is one of the best experiences I've had as an avid gamer. While I didn't find the input lag to be a frustration during the majority of my playthrough when it came time to face off against some of the tougher boss encounters (Sigrun OMG) I switched over to my 1080p projector and found that dodging and parrying became much easier. Especially so on the higher difficulty levels. Will the input lag bother you? It really comes down to what kind of gamer you are and what types of titles you play. If you are a casual gamer or focus more on single player games at the normal difficulty setting you'll be fine. If you are a competitive online player or prefer to challenge yourself at the higher difficulty levels you'll likely want to stick with a 1080p projector capable of 16ms.
Hi Captain,

For your purposes, I would advise you to look at BenQ TK800, since it is an incredibly sharp 4K projector with good color, good HDR performance, great motion handling, an HDMI 2.0 port capable of 4K HDR @ 60fps and enough lumens to deal with ambient light. Those are qualities that make for an excellent gaming display. Which is why I find the next spec to be so bittersweet.

When it comes to 3D, I'll be honest, I'm not that picky when it comes to picture quality. My biggest concerns are: one, that the image is free of artifacts and cross talk and, two, that the image is comfortably bright. Armed with 3000 lumens I was very much looking forward to testing out the TK800 in 3D. I'm happy to report that the TK800's prodigious light output translates well creating a bright and punchy 3D image with little to no cross talk. While I noticed a bit more noise and what looked like some mild aliasing that is absent in my reference to best 3D projector, I would still consider this very good performance - with one large caveat.

At 48ms the TK800 is currently one of the quickest 4K projectors on the market. It is, however, slow compared to 1080p displays that are now capable of sub-16ms input lag. I tend to be a bit of a snob when it comes to display latency and freely admit that many gamers will no doubt find 48ms acceptable for casual gaming. Still, I would absolutely love if BenQ could find a way to reduce input lag to at least 33ms. Playing through the PS4 exclusive God of War (2018) in glorious 4K HDR with an uncapped frame rate on a 100" screen is one of the best experiences I've had as an avid gamer. While I didn't find the input lag to be a frustration during the majority of my playthrough when it came time to face off against some of the tougher boss encounters (Sigrun OMG) I switched over to my 1080p projector and found that dodging and parrying became much easier. Especially so on the higher difficulty levels.

Will the input lag bother you? It really comes down to what kind of gamer you are and what types of titles you play. If you are a casual gamer or focus more on single player games at the normal difficulty setting you'll be fine. If you are a competitive online player or prefer to challenge yourself at the higher difficulty levels you'll likely want to stick with a 1080p projector capable of 16ms.

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#25
Posted 03/05/2019 03:12 AM   
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