I got the Acer HR274H 27 inch passive 3d monitor today and have spent about 2 hours messing with it. No bad pixels, backlight bleed, or anything mechanically wrong with it and I am going to keep it because I'm happy with it.
No big wow factor for me because I also have a 65 inch LG passive 3d TV and I've researched this monitor a lot, other than WOW no input lag!
Nvidia 3d mode: I am certain it is in interlaced mode 1080p at 60hz. The monitor doesn't even detect when I launch a 3d game and it appears the drivers do all the work. The info screen in the monitor control panel still says 1920x1080p H: 67kHz V: 60Hz. There is no change in input lag during 3d games. I have the monitor set to announce when it goes into 3d mode and it only does that when I pick a 3d mode from the OSD 3d menu with just SBS, T&B, & FP as options. Interlaced just works automatically with no input from the monitor. I can hit Ctrl-T and 3d switches on & off with no change, blink, sputter or anything happening to the monitor. I even launched a movie in an interlaced from a window in stereoscopic player and it looked fine. The Nvidia 3d control panel says "Optimized for Nvidia GeForce" in the 3d settings.
3d vertical viewing angle: 3d viewing angle is adequate for me. I sit on the average of 2 feet from my screen. Your eyes have about a 10-11 inches up and down leeway before the FPR causes ghosting. You'll see ghosting when your eyes get even with an inch from the top of the screen and about 1-2 inches from the bottom. The screen is 13 inches in height. This good enough for me to slouch in my chair and get straight without seeing ghosting. This narrow 3d viewing angle is present in all passive 3d displays.
2d quality: I'm not finicky here and this replaces a CCFL LCD 32 inch Samsung TV which had bad colors. I should probably not say anything more than it works for me and I'm happy.
Non-glossy screen: The screen is "non-glossy" and this creates an improvement in close up 3d as compared with my TV that has a glossy screen. A glossy screen makes you notice the panel and ruins the 3d effect up close.
Display controls: I believe it uses the standard Acer OSD settings that other Acer monitors use except it has an area for 3d. One negative is it has only one saved user settings and I need one for 2d and one for 3d. I will have to use the fixed settings of Eco, Standard, Graphics, or Movie for my 2d viewing and save my self configured "User" setting for 3d. If you change the color temperature to warm or cool it changes it in all the settings (Eco, Standard..etc). Maybe I'll learn a trick around this in the future hopefully.
3d glasses: The 3d glasses are better quality than came with my LG TV. They have slightly curved lenses and have side panels that keep outside light from hitting your eyes. The 3d actually looks a slight more 3d than my with my LG glasses.
FPR lines and half resolution: Present as with all passive displays. I think my LG TV does a different method of interlacing both odd & even lines at 120th of a second to both eyes so you get something closer to 1080p with my TV so I did notice it more here. I see no lines with the glasses off even with a white screen.
I got the Acer HR274H 27 inch passive 3d monitor today and have spent about 2 hours messing with it. No bad pixels, backlight bleed, or anything mechanically wrong with it and I am going to keep it because I'm happy with it.
No big wow factor for me because I also have a 65 inch LG passive 3d TV and I've researched this monitor a lot, other than WOW no input lag!
Nvidia 3d mode: I am certain it is in interlaced mode 1080p at 60hz. The monitor doesn't even detect when I launch a 3d game and it appears the drivers do all the work. The info screen in the monitor control panel still says 1920x1080p H: 67kHz V: 60Hz. There is no change in input lag during 3d games. I have the monitor set to announce when it goes into 3d mode and it only does that when I pick a 3d mode from the OSD 3d menu with just SBS, T&B, & FP as options. Interlaced just works automatically with no input from the monitor. I can hit Ctrl-T and 3d switches on & off with no change, blink, sputter or anything happening to the monitor. I even launched a movie in an interlaced from a window in stereoscopic player and it looked fine. The Nvidia 3d control panel says "Optimized for Nvidia GeForce" in the 3d settings.
3d vertical viewing angle: 3d viewing angle is adequate for me. I sit on the average of 2 feet from my screen. Your eyes have about a 10-11 inches up and down leeway before the FPR causes ghosting. You'll see ghosting when your eyes get even with an inch from the top of the screen and about 1-2 inches from the bottom. The screen is 13 inches in height. This good enough for me to slouch in my chair and get straight without seeing ghosting. This narrow 3d viewing angle is present in all passive 3d displays.
2d quality: I'm not finicky here and this replaces a CCFL LCD 32 inch Samsung TV which had bad colors. I should probably not say anything more than it works for me and I'm happy.
Non-glossy screen: The screen is "non-glossy" and this creates an improvement in close up 3d as compared with my TV that has a glossy screen. A glossy screen makes you notice the panel and ruins the 3d effect up close.
Display controls: I believe it uses the standard Acer OSD settings that other Acer monitors use except it has an area for 3d. One negative is it has only one saved user settings and I need one for 2d and one for 3d. I will have to use the fixed settings of Eco, Standard, Graphics, or Movie for my 2d viewing and save my self configured "User" setting for 3d. If you change the color temperature to warm or cool it changes it in all the settings (Eco, Standard..etc). Maybe I'll learn a trick around this in the future hopefully.
3d glasses: The 3d glasses are better quality than came with my LG TV. They have slightly curved lenses and have side panels that keep outside light from hitting your eyes. The 3d actually looks a slight more 3d than my with my LG glasses.
FPR lines and half resolution: Present as with all passive displays. I think my LG TV does a different method of interlacing both odd & even lines at 120th of a second to both eyes so you get something closer to 1080p with my TV so I did notice it more here. I see no lines with the glasses off even with a white screen.
It also sounds like this model does support SBS over HDMI, pretty much has to for 1080i @60Hz unless Nvidia is using some non-standard interlaced output that just alternates lines for the stereo views. Thanks for the confirmation on the "Optimized for GeForce" and everything being handled by the driver, looks like its being kept separate from both 3DTV Play and 3D Vision for now, but it does prove SBS or at least 1080i @ 60Hz is ready to go. Does it give you full control options in the control panel for 3D?
I wonder if FRAPs video recording will be able to capture the actual SBS output frames or if it will still be full two full frames SBS before they're interlaced and combined.
Can you go on Youtube 3D and see if SBS or interlaced play for you automatically?
It also sounds like this model does support SBS over HDMI, pretty much has to for 1080i @60Hz unless Nvidia is using some non-standard interlaced output that just alternates lines for the stereo views. Thanks for the confirmation on the "Optimized for GeForce" and everything being handled by the driver, looks like its being kept separate from both 3DTV Play and 3D Vision for now, but it does prove SBS or at least 1080i @ 60Hz is ready to go. Does it give you full control options in the control panel for 3D?
I wonder if FRAPs video recording will be able to capture the actual SBS output frames or if it will still be full two full frames SBS before they're interlaced and combined.
Can you go on Youtube 3D and see if SBS or interlaced play for you automatically?
[quote name='chiz' date='04 January 2012 - 07:18 PM' timestamp='1325733512' post='1351717']
Very nice, sounds like you're happy with it.
It also sounds like this model does support SBS over HDMI, pretty much has to for 1080i @60Hz unless Nvidia is using some non-standard interlaced output that just alternates lines for the stereo views. Thanks for the confirmation on the "Optimized for GeForce" and everything being handled by the driver, looks like its being kept separate from both 3DTV Play and 3D Vision for now, but it does prove SBS or at least 1080i @ 60Hz is ready to go. Does it give you full control options in the control panel for 3D?
I wonder if FRAPs video recording will be able to capture the actual SBS output frames or if it will still be full two full frames SBS before they're interlaced and combined.
Can you go on Youtube 3D and see if SBS or interlaced play for you automatically?
It doesn't switch automatically when I go to a SBS video. I have to have the options set to SBS and hit the button once to bring up the OSD and again to hit the 3d button. So two button pushes. Oh.. I guess if youtube is set to interleaved then I have to do nothing because nothing has to be done to the monitor for stuff in interleaved. I noticed SBS doesn't look as good on this as it does on my TV. I switched the same movie to interleaved and it looked much better. Even on your youtube video you linked switching it to interleaved made it looked better. I think I'll stick to interleaved 3d on this monitor.
In the 3d options it just has the option of 2d>3d, SBS, T&B, FP and L/R. No other options or depth settings. You can download the manual on the acer website and it gives a very accurate description of the OSD.
BTW: I can alt-tab back and forth out of a 3d game and surf the web or whatever without anything messing up or having to change anything.
Also: When I say interlaced I mean interlaced 3d which is same as interleaved 3d. My monitor isn't going in interlaced (1920x1080i) at all. I believe the driver is just sending one image to the odd lines and one image to the even lines thus interlacing in 1080p. Sort of two definitions for interlaced in a way. The drivers and or game is doing it and not the monitor. Just to clarify in case it is confusing anyone.
[quote name='chiz' date='04 January 2012 - 07:18 PM' timestamp='1325733512' post='1351717']
Very nice, sounds like you're happy with it.
It also sounds like this model does support SBS over HDMI, pretty much has to for 1080i @60Hz unless Nvidia is using some non-standard interlaced output that just alternates lines for the stereo views. Thanks for the confirmation on the "Optimized for GeForce" and everything being handled by the driver, looks like its being kept separate from both 3DTV Play and 3D Vision for now, but it does prove SBS or at least 1080i @ 60Hz is ready to go. Does it give you full control options in the control panel for 3D?
I wonder if FRAPs video recording will be able to capture the actual SBS output frames or if it will still be full two full frames SBS before they're interlaced and combined.
Can you go on Youtube 3D and see if SBS or interlaced play for you automatically?
It doesn't switch automatically when I go to a SBS video. I have to have the options set to SBS and hit the button once to bring up the OSD and again to hit the 3d button. So two button pushes. Oh.. I guess if youtube is set to interleaved then I have to do nothing because nothing has to be done to the monitor for stuff in interleaved. I noticed SBS doesn't look as good on this as it does on my TV. I switched the same movie to interleaved and it looked much better. Even on your youtube video you linked switching it to interleaved made it looked better. I think I'll stick to interleaved 3d on this monitor.
In the 3d options it just has the option of 2d>3d, SBS, T&B, FP and L/R. No other options or depth settings. You can download the manual on the acer website and it gives a very accurate description of the OSD.
BTW: I can alt-tab back and forth out of a 3d game and surf the web or whatever without anything messing up or having to change anything.
Also: When I say interlaced I mean interlaced 3d which is same as interleaved 3d. My monitor isn't going in interlaced (1920x1080i) at all. I believe the driver is just sending one image to the odd lines and one image to the even lines thus interlacing in 1080p. Sort of two definitions for interlaced in a way. The drivers and or game is doing it and not the monitor. Just to clarify in case it is confusing anyone.
No big wow factor for me because I also have a 65 inch LG passive 3d TV and I've researched this monitor a lot, other than WOW no input lag!
Nvidia 3d mode: I am certain it is in interlaced mode 1080p at 60hz. The monitor doesn't even detect when I launch a 3d game and it appears the drivers do all the work. The info screen in the monitor control panel still says 1920x1080p H: 67kHz V: 60Hz. There is no change in input lag during 3d games. I have the monitor set to announce when it goes into 3d mode and it only does that when I pick a 3d mode from the OSD 3d menu with just SBS, T&B, & FP as options. Interlaced just works automatically with no input from the monitor. I can hit Ctrl-T and 3d switches on & off with no change, blink, sputter or anything happening to the monitor. I even launched a movie in an interlaced from a window in stereoscopic player and it looked fine. The Nvidia 3d control panel says "Optimized for Nvidia GeForce" in the 3d settings.
3d vertical viewing angle: 3d viewing angle is adequate for me. I sit on the average of 2 feet from my screen. Your eyes have about a 10-11 inches up and down leeway before the FPR causes ghosting. You'll see ghosting when your eyes get even with an inch from the top of the screen and about 1-2 inches from the bottom. The screen is 13 inches in height. This good enough for me to slouch in my chair and get straight without seeing ghosting. This narrow 3d viewing angle is present in all passive 3d displays.
2d quality: I'm not finicky here and this replaces a CCFL LCD 32 inch Samsung TV which had bad colors. I should probably not say anything more than it works for me and I'm happy.
Non-glossy screen: The screen is "non-glossy" and this creates an improvement in close up 3d as compared with my TV that has a glossy screen. A glossy screen makes you notice the panel and ruins the 3d effect up close.
Display controls: I believe it uses the standard Acer OSD settings that other Acer monitors use except it has an area for 3d. One negative is it has only one saved user settings and I need one for 2d and one for 3d. I will have to use the fixed settings of Eco, Standard, Graphics, or Movie for my 2d viewing and save my self configured "User" setting for 3d. If you change the color temperature to warm or cool it changes it in all the settings (Eco, Standard..etc). Maybe I'll learn a trick around this in the future hopefully.
3d glasses: The 3d glasses are better quality than came with my LG TV. They have slightly curved lenses and have side panels that keep outside light from hitting your eyes. The 3d actually looks a slight more 3d than my with my LG glasses.
FPR lines and half resolution: Present as with all passive displays. I think my LG TV does a different method of interlacing both odd & even lines at 120th of a second to both eyes so you get something closer to 1080p with my TV so I did notice it more here. I see no lines with the glasses off even with a white screen.
No big wow factor for me because I also have a 65 inch LG passive 3d TV and I've researched this monitor a lot, other than WOW no input lag!
Nvidia 3d mode: I am certain it is in interlaced mode 1080p at 60hz. The monitor doesn't even detect when I launch a 3d game and it appears the drivers do all the work. The info screen in the monitor control panel still says 1920x1080p H: 67kHz V: 60Hz. There is no change in input lag during 3d games. I have the monitor set to announce when it goes into 3d mode and it only does that when I pick a 3d mode from the OSD 3d menu with just SBS, T&B, & FP as options. Interlaced just works automatically with no input from the monitor. I can hit Ctrl-T and 3d switches on & off with no change, blink, sputter or anything happening to the monitor. I even launched a movie in an interlaced from a window in stereoscopic player and it looked fine. The Nvidia 3d control panel says "Optimized for Nvidia GeForce" in the 3d settings.
3d vertical viewing angle: 3d viewing angle is adequate for me. I sit on the average of 2 feet from my screen. Your eyes have about a 10-11 inches up and down leeway before the FPR causes ghosting. You'll see ghosting when your eyes get even with an inch from the top of the screen and about 1-2 inches from the bottom. The screen is 13 inches in height. This good enough for me to slouch in my chair and get straight without seeing ghosting. This narrow 3d viewing angle is present in all passive 3d displays.
2d quality: I'm not finicky here and this replaces a CCFL LCD 32 inch Samsung TV which had bad colors. I should probably not say anything more than it works for me and I'm happy.
Non-glossy screen: The screen is "non-glossy" and this creates an improvement in close up 3d as compared with my TV that has a glossy screen. A glossy screen makes you notice the panel and ruins the 3d effect up close.
Display controls: I believe it uses the standard Acer OSD settings that other Acer monitors use except it has an area for 3d. One negative is it has only one saved user settings and I need one for 2d and one for 3d. I will have to use the fixed settings of Eco, Standard, Graphics, or Movie for my 2d viewing and save my self configured "User" setting for 3d. If you change the color temperature to warm or cool it changes it in all the settings (Eco, Standard..etc). Maybe I'll learn a trick around this in the future hopefully.
3d glasses: The 3d glasses are better quality than came with my LG TV. They have slightly curved lenses and have side panels that keep outside light from hitting your eyes. The 3d actually looks a slight more 3d than my with my LG glasses.
FPR lines and half resolution: Present as with all passive displays. I think my LG TV does a different method of interlacing both odd & even lines at 120th of a second to both eyes so you get something closer to 1080p with my TV so I did notice it more here. I see no lines with the glasses off even with a white screen.
It also sounds like this model does support SBS over HDMI, pretty much has to for 1080i @60Hz unless Nvidia is using some non-standard interlaced output that just alternates lines for the stereo views. Thanks for the confirmation on the "Optimized for GeForce" and everything being handled by the driver, looks like its being kept separate from both 3DTV Play and 3D Vision for now, but it does prove SBS or at least 1080i @ 60Hz is ready to go. Does it give you full control options in the control panel for 3D?
I wonder if FRAPs video recording will be able to capture the actual SBS output frames or if it will still be full two full frames SBS before they're interlaced and combined.
Can you go on Youtube 3D and see if SBS or interlaced play for you automatically?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H96LiaUWsUk
It also sounds like this model does support SBS over HDMI, pretty much has to for 1080i @60Hz unless Nvidia is using some non-standard interlaced output that just alternates lines for the stereo views. Thanks for the confirmation on the "Optimized for GeForce" and everything being handled by the driver, looks like its being kept separate from both 3DTV Play and 3D Vision for now, but it does prove SBS or at least 1080i @ 60Hz is ready to go. Does it give you full control options in the control panel for 3D?
I wonder if FRAPs video recording will be able to capture the actual SBS output frames or if it will still be full two full frames SBS before they're interlaced and combined.
Can you go on Youtube 3D and see if SBS or interlaced play for you automatically?
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Very nice, sounds like you're happy with it.
It also sounds like this model does support SBS over HDMI, pretty much has to for 1080i @60Hz unless Nvidia is using some non-standard interlaced output that just alternates lines for the stereo views. Thanks for the confirmation on the "Optimized for GeForce" and everything being handled by the driver, looks like its being kept separate from both 3DTV Play and 3D Vision for now, but it does prove SBS or at least 1080i @ 60Hz is ready to go. Does it give you full control options in the control panel for 3D?
I wonder if FRAPs video recording will be able to capture the actual SBS output frames or if it will still be full two full frames SBS before they're interlaced and combined.
Can you go on Youtube 3D and see if SBS or interlaced play for you automatically?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H96LiaUWsUk
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It doesn't switch automatically when I go to a SBS video. I have to have the options set to SBS and hit the button once to bring up the OSD and again to hit the 3d button. So two button pushes. Oh.. I guess if youtube is set to interleaved then I have to do nothing because nothing has to be done to the monitor for stuff in interleaved. I noticed SBS doesn't look as good on this as it does on my TV. I switched the same movie to interleaved and it looked much better. Even on your youtube video you linked switching it to interleaved made it looked better. I think I'll stick to interleaved 3d on this monitor.
In the 3d options it just has the option of 2d>3d, SBS, T&B, FP and L/R. No other options or depth settings. You can download the manual on the acer website and it gives a very accurate description of the OSD.
BTW: I can alt-tab back and forth out of a 3d game and surf the web or whatever without anything messing up or having to change anything.
Also: When I say interlaced I mean interlaced 3d which is same as interleaved 3d. My monitor isn't going in interlaced (1920x1080i) at all. I believe the driver is just sending one image to the odd lines and one image to the even lines thus interlacing in 1080p. Sort of two definitions for interlaced in a way. The drivers and or game is doing it and not the monitor. Just to clarify in case it is confusing anyone.
Very nice, sounds like you're happy with it.
It also sounds like this model does support SBS over HDMI, pretty much has to for 1080i @60Hz unless Nvidia is using some non-standard interlaced output that just alternates lines for the stereo views. Thanks for the confirmation on the "Optimized for GeForce" and everything being handled by the driver, looks like its being kept separate from both 3DTV Play and 3D Vision for now, but it does prove SBS or at least 1080i @ 60Hz is ready to go. Does it give you full control options in the control panel for 3D?
I wonder if FRAPs video recording will be able to capture the actual SBS output frames or if it will still be full two full frames SBS before they're interlaced and combined.
Can you go on Youtube 3D and see if SBS or interlaced play for you automatically?
It doesn't switch automatically when I go to a SBS video. I have to have the options set to SBS and hit the button once to bring up the OSD and again to hit the 3d button. So two button pushes. Oh.. I guess if youtube is set to interleaved then I have to do nothing because nothing has to be done to the monitor for stuff in interleaved. I noticed SBS doesn't look as good on this as it does on my TV. I switched the same movie to interleaved and it looked much better. Even on your youtube video you linked switching it to interleaved made it looked better. I think I'll stick to interleaved 3d on this monitor.
In the 3d options it just has the option of 2d>3d, SBS, T&B, FP and L/R. No other options or depth settings. You can download the manual on the acer website and it gives a very accurate description of the OSD.
BTW: I can alt-tab back and forth out of a 3d game and surf the web or whatever without anything messing up or having to change anything.
Also: When I say interlaced I mean interlaced 3d which is same as interleaved 3d. My monitor isn't going in interlaced (1920x1080i) at all. I believe the driver is just sending one image to the odd lines and one image to the even lines thus interlacing in 1080p. Sort of two definitions for interlaced in a way. The drivers and or game is doing it and not the monitor. Just to clarify in case it is confusing anyone.