Abysmal Frame Rates in Wow why is it so low?!
Any Ideas as to why my frame rates would drop from 40-80 in major cities and 100+ anywhere else to 17-20 in capitals and 27-30 frames outside?

The only change I have made is the addition of 3d vision.

The important bits are below, full dxdiag system report is attached.

My ram is 3x4GB Triple channel 1600

Processor is OC'ed to 3.5GHz

and I am using the dx11 flag for wow as well

on a different but related note, dx11 water and reflection effects seem to be rendering horribly in 3d, is this a known issue?



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System Information
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Time of this report: 2/8/2011, 08:22:03
Machine name: ANONYMOUSINC-PC
Operating System: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit (6.1, Build 7600) (7600.win7_rtm.090713-1255)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: System manufacturer
System Model: System Product Name
BIOS: BIOS Date: 01/28/10 13:41:45 Ver: 08.00.15
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 930 @ 2.80GHz (8 CPUs), ~2.8GHz
Memory: 12288MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 12280MB RAM
Page File: 2350MB used, 22205MB available
Windows Dir: C:\Windows
DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
User DPI Setting: Using System DPI
System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
DxDiag Version: 6.01.7600.16418 64bit Unicode

3d Stereo Driver: 6.14.12.6621

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Display Devices
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Card name: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: GeForce GTX 460
DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0E22&SUBSYS_080410DE&REV_A1
Display Memory: 4066 MB
Dedicated Memory: 738 MB
Shared Memory: 3327 MB
Current Mode: 1680 x 1050 (32 bit) (120Hz)
Any Ideas as to why my frame rates would drop from 40-80 in major cities and 100+ anywhere else to 17-20 in capitals and 27-30 frames outside?



The only change I have made is the addition of 3d vision.



The important bits are below, full dxdiag system report is attached.



My ram is 3x4GB Triple channel 1600



Processor is OC'ed to 3.5GHz



and I am using the dx11 flag for wow as well



on a different but related note, dx11 water and reflection effects seem to be rendering horribly in 3d, is this a known issue?







------------------

System Information

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Time of this report: 2/8/2011, 08:22:03

Machine name: ANONYMOUSINC-PC

Operating System: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit (6.1, Build 7600) (7600.win7_rtm.090713-1255)

Language: English (Regional Setting: English)

System Manufacturer: System manufacturer

System Model: System Product Name

BIOS: BIOS Date: 01/28/10 13:41:45 Ver: 08.00.15

Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 930 @ 2.80GHz (8 CPUs), ~2.8GHz

Memory: 12288MB RAM

Available OS Memory: 12280MB RAM

Page File: 2350MB used, 22205MB available

Windows Dir: C:\Windows

DirectX Version: DirectX 11

DX Setup Parameters: Not found

User DPI Setting: Using System DPI

System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)

DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled

DxDiag Version: 6.01.7600.16418 64bit Unicode



3d Stereo Driver: 6.14.12.6621



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Display Devices

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Card name: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460

Manufacturer: NVIDIA

Chip type: GeForce GTX 460

DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC

Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0E22&SUBSYS_080410DE&REV_A1

Display Memory: 4066 MB

Dedicated Memory: 738 MB

Shared Memory: 3327 MB

Current Mode: 1680 x 1050 (32 bit) (120Hz)
Attachments

DxDiag.txt

#1
Posted 02/08/2011 01:31 PM   
What settings are you running at?
Turn on triple buffering, because 3D vision halfs your framerate and forces VSync, so 80fps becomes 30fps. Tripple buffering makes it nearer 40.

As a side note WOW seems to do a lot better performance wise in 3DVision with the DX11 renderer, but it has a few additional issues if you use it, notably nameplates are at screen depth and you lose the 3D mouse cursor.

In case your wondering if going SLI will improve performance, it doesn't, you need a faster single card for WOW, it has appauling SLI scaling.

Yes, any liquid setting above fair is broken in 3D.
What settings are you running at?

Turn on triple buffering, because 3D vision halfs your framerate and forces VSync, so 80fps becomes 30fps. Tripple buffering makes it nearer 40.



As a side note WOW seems to do a lot better performance wise in 3DVision with the DX11 renderer, but it has a few additional issues if you use it, notably nameplates are at screen depth and you lose the 3D mouse cursor.



In case your wondering if going SLI will improve performance, it doesn't, you need a faster single card for WOW, it has appauling SLI scaling.



Yes, any liquid setting above fair is broken in 3D.
#2
Posted 02/08/2011 05:05 PM   
I already have triple buffering and vsync enabled, i have all settings set at the maximum setting, I have read in other forums that unchecking reduce interface lag will also bolster performance
I already have triple buffering and vsync enabled, i have all settings set at the maximum setting, I have read in other forums that unchecking reduce interface lag will also bolster performance

#3
Posted 02/08/2011 05:33 PM   
resolution is 1680x1050 120Hz Full Screen mode
resolution is 1680x1050 120Hz Full Screen mode

#4
Posted 02/08/2011 05:36 PM   
You definitely don't want reduce interface lag enabled, it forces a GPU/CPU sync at the end of every rendered frame which is just throwing performance away.
You definitely don't want reduce interface lag enabled, it forces a GPU/CPU sync at the end of every rendered frame which is just throwing performance away.
#5
Posted 02/08/2011 05:50 PM   
Which program do you use to see frame rates?

In Afterburner, my max frame rate is 60fps, on-screen, in all games, when 3D is enabled.
When 3D is turned off, my max frame rate changes to 120fps.

Are you playing with 3D vision on or off?

If you are playing with 3D vision off, then
in the nvidia control panel,
unselect "Enable stereoscopic 3D" and performance should improve a little.
Which program do you use to see frame rates?



In Afterburner, my max frame rate is 60fps, on-screen, in all games, when 3D is enabled.

When 3D is turned off, my max frame rate changes to 120fps.



Are you playing with 3D vision on or off?



If you are playing with 3D vision off, then

in the nvidia control panel,

unselect "Enable stereoscopic 3D" and performance should improve a little.

Thief 1/2/gold in 3D
https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/523535/3d-vision/thief-1-2-and-system-shock-2-perfect-3d-with-unofficial-patch-1-19
http://photos.3dvisionlive.com/Partol/album/509eb580a3e067153c000020/

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#6
Posted 02/08/2011 06:45 PM   
i disabled it on my laptop, and wow! i went from 8-9fps in org to 40-50fps, its a bit spiky but i'm running it on ultra (minus shadows and sunshafts) instead of good, hopefully the performance increase on my pc at home will be as drastic!

thanks!
i disabled it on my laptop, and wow! i went from 8-9fps in org to 40-50fps, its a bit spiky but i'm running it on ultra (minus shadows and sunshafts) instead of good, hopefully the performance increase on my pc at home will be as drastic!



thanks!

#7
Posted 02/08/2011 06:47 PM   
Partol, I just use the game itself for framerate information, in wow pressing ctrl+r will display it, one of the addons I use, titan panel also displays framerate
Partol, I just use the game itself for framerate information, in wow pressing ctrl+r will display it, one of the addons I use, titan panel also displays framerate

#8
Posted 02/08/2011 07:13 PM   
Do you have ambient occlusion on? It dips hard when you have that on.
Also "Antialiasing - Transparency" has a huge impact as well when you have supersampling on.

... from my own experiences tweaking the Nvidia 3d settings for wow
Do you have ambient occlusion on? It dips hard when you have that on.

Also "Antialiasing - Transparency" has a huge impact as well when you have supersampling on.



... from my own experiences tweaking the Nvidia 3d settings for wow

#9
Posted 02/09/2011 09:23 AM   
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