You can use GPUz to easily tell if it's Samsung. Hynix or Micron.
There was an article at this time last year that stated that Samsung's GDDR6 was exceptionally faster than the competition.
https://www.neowin.net/news/samsung-jumps-ahead-of-its-competition-with-faster-gddr6-memory
There's also been suggestions that the RTX 2080ti cards that are failing is due to the use of Micon GDDR6. It seems that some RMA GPUs have been returned with Samsung in place of the Micron. But this might simply be due to having supply in stock vs needing to order it in.
https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/1079421/geforce-rtx-20-series/rtx-2080ti-new-batch-gets-samsung-memory-/
There's also been suggestions that the RTX 2080ti cards that are failing is due to the use of Micon GDDR6. It seems that some RMA GPUs have been returned with Samsung in place of the Micron. But this might simply be due to having supply in stock vs needing to order it in.
[quote="rustyk21"][quote="Helifax"]I would go 2080Ti and watercool & overclock the hell out of them! You can get some nice overclocks on them!
Currently I only have 1x 2080Ti watercooled and overclocked and I don't have problems with it! I am at around + 200Mhz on the core and 700Mhz on the VRAM.
But again, some games like it, while others don't. Witcher 3 for example doesn't like anything above 140Mhz on the Core, or it will crash down the line (1-2 hours into the game... I know ^_^).
I am planning on getting the next 2080Ti soon!
As for the people that ask about RTX and DLSS... that is DX12 exclusive currently. MS said they will expand the API to DX11, but... Don't hold your breath! I wouldn't count of Raytracing in DX11 and in Stereo 3D (at all. Unless Nvidia makes a new 3D Vision Release that fully supports DX12).[/quote]
Hi Helifax, I meant to ask you. Does your 2080TI have Samsung memory? All the references I've seen to the Palit Gaming OC suggest it has Samsung VRAM rather than Micron or Hynix.
Thanks![/quote]
When I took it apart to put my waterblock I believe I saw samsung chips on the card. I can't be 100% sure though... (as I opened my 980Tis as well, to repaste and do some cleaning before I sold them).
Out of curiosity, why do you ask? is there something wrong with the samsung chips?
Helifax said:I would go 2080Ti and watercool & overclock the hell out of them! You can get some nice overclocks on them!
Currently I only have 1x 2080Ti watercooled and overclocked and I don't have problems with it! I am at around + 200Mhz on the core and 700Mhz on the VRAM.
But again, some games like it, while others don't. Witcher 3 for example doesn't like anything above 140Mhz on the Core, or it will crash down the line (1-2 hours into the game... I know ^_^).
I am planning on getting the next 2080Ti soon!
As for the people that ask about RTX and DLSS... that is DX12 exclusive currently. MS said they will expand the API to DX11, but... Don't hold your breath! I wouldn't count of Raytracing in DX11 and in Stereo 3D (at all. Unless Nvidia makes a new 3D Vision Release that fully supports DX12).
Hi Helifax, I meant to ask you. Does your 2080TI have Samsung memory? All the references I've seen to the Palit Gaming OC suggest it has Samsung VRAM rather than Micron or Hynix.
Thanks!
When I took it apart to put my waterblock I believe I saw samsung chips on the card. I can't be 100% sure though... (as I opened my 980Tis as well, to repaste and do some cleaning before I sold them).
Out of curiosity, why do you ask? is there something wrong with the samsung chips?
1x Palit RTX 2080Ti Pro Gaming OC(watercooled and overclocked to hell)
3x 3D Vision Ready Asus VG278HE monitors (5760x1080).
Intel i9 9900K (overclocked to 5.3 and watercooled ofc).
Asus Maximus XI Hero Mobo.
16 GB Team Group T-Force Dark Pro DDR4 @ 3600.
Lots of Disks:
- Raid 0 - 256GB Sandisk Extreme SSD.
- Raid 0 - WD Black - 2TB.
- SanDisk SSD PLUS 480 GB.
- Intel 760p 256GB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD.
Creative Sound Blaster Z.
Windows 10 x64 Pro.
etc
I think a while back, it was found that RTX cards were dying if they had some specific memory...
That's a beautiful system Helifax, well done! :)
Where do you put your games for fast loading? Not on the 2TB Hard Disk I hope!
[quote="Helifax"][quote="rustyk21"][quote="Helifax"]I would go 2080Ti and watercool & overclock the hell out of them! You can get some nice overclocks on them!
Currently I only have 1x 2080Ti watercooled and overclocked and I don't have problems with it! I am at around + 200Mhz on the core and 700Mhz on the VRAM.
But again, some games like it, while others don't. Witcher 3 for example doesn't like anything above 140Mhz on the Core, or it will crash down the line (1-2 hours into the game... I know ^_^).
I am planning on getting the next 2080Ti soon!
As for the people that ask about RTX and DLSS... that is DX12 exclusive currently. MS said they will expand the API to DX11, but... Don't hold your breath! I wouldn't count of Raytracing in DX11 and in Stereo 3D (at all. Unless Nvidia makes a new 3D Vision Release that fully supports DX12).[/quote]
Hi Helifax, I meant to ask you. Does your 2080TI have Samsung memory? All the references I've seen to the Palit Gaming OC suggest it has Samsung VRAM rather than Micron or Hynix.
Thanks![/quote]
When I took it apart to put my waterblock I believe I saw samsung chips on the card. I can't be 100% sure though... (as I opened my 980Tis as well, to repaste and do some cleaning before I sold them).
Out of curiosity, why do you ask? is there something wrong with the samsung chips?[/quote]
There's definitely nothing wrong with the Samsung chips. As D-Man said, there was speculation that early failures were to do with the VRAM. At the moment, I believe all 3 manufacturers supply the RAM and they are all to the same spec. But, from what I've read, the Samsung RAM definitely overclocks better and apparently uses less power. I also read somewhere that it's built on a smaller process node, which could explain it.
Helifax said:I would go 2080Ti and watercool & overclock the hell out of them! You can get some nice overclocks on them!
Currently I only have 1x 2080Ti watercooled and overclocked and I don't have problems with it! I am at around + 200Mhz on the core and 700Mhz on the VRAM.
But again, some games like it, while others don't. Witcher 3 for example doesn't like anything above 140Mhz on the Core, or it will crash down the line (1-2 hours into the game... I know ^_^).
I am planning on getting the next 2080Ti soon!
As for the people that ask about RTX and DLSS... that is DX12 exclusive currently. MS said they will expand the API to DX11, but... Don't hold your breath! I wouldn't count of Raytracing in DX11 and in Stereo 3D (at all. Unless Nvidia makes a new 3D Vision Release that fully supports DX12).
Hi Helifax, I meant to ask you. Does your 2080TI have Samsung memory? All the references I've seen to the Palit Gaming OC suggest it has Samsung VRAM rather than Micron or Hynix.
Thanks!
When I took it apart to put my waterblock I believe I saw samsung chips on the card. I can't be 100% sure though... (as I opened my 980Tis as well, to repaste and do some cleaning before I sold them).
Out of curiosity, why do you ask? is there something wrong with the samsung chips?
There's definitely nothing wrong with the Samsung chips. As D-Man said, there was speculation that early failures were to do with the VRAM. At the moment, I believe all 3 manufacturers supply the RAM and they are all to the same spec. But, from what I've read, the Samsung RAM definitely overclocks better and apparently uses less power. I also read somewhere that it's built on a smaller process node, which could explain it.
Gigabyte RTX2080TI Gaming OC, I7-6700k ~ 4.4Ghz, 3x BenQ XL2420T, BenQ TK800, LG 55EG960V (3D OLED), Samsung 850 EVO SSD, Crucial M4 SSD, 3D vision kit, Xpand x104 glasses, Corsair HX1000i, Win 10 pro 64/Win 7 64https://www.3dmark.com/fs/9529310
[quote="RAGEdemon"]I think a while back, it was found that RTX cards were dying if they had some specific memory...
That's a beautiful system Helifax, well done! :)
Where do you put your games for fast loading? Not on the 2TB Hard Disk I hope![/quote]
Thanks!
The 2TB is a RAID 0 and works pretty good.
But that's why I got one theses:
Intel 760p 256GB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD
(https://www.scan.co.uk/products/256gb-intel-ssd-760p-series-m2-2280-pcie-31-x4-nvme-ssd-tlc-3d-nand-3210mb-s-read-1315mb-s-write-205?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIqMHZ--Oz4AIVixbTCh2bHgtuEAQYAyABEgLh6_D_BwE)
I normally copy the big games from the 2TB one to the NVMe SSD. (Based on what I want to play).
Awesome piece of tech;))
(I see I forgot to add it in the signature ^_^. Edit: Signature Updated ^_^).
I normally copy the big games from the 2TB one to the NVMe SSD. (Based on what I want to play).
Awesome piece of tech;))
(I see I forgot to add it in the signature ^_^. Edit: Signature Updated ^_^).
1x Palit RTX 2080Ti Pro Gaming OC(watercooled and overclocked to hell)
3x 3D Vision Ready Asus VG278HE monitors (5760x1080).
Intel i9 9900K (overclocked to 5.3 and watercooled ofc).
Asus Maximus XI Hero Mobo.
16 GB Team Group T-Force Dark Pro DDR4 @ 3600.
Lots of Disks:
- Raid 0 - 256GB Sandisk Extreme SSD.
- Raid 0 - WD Black - 2TB.
- SanDisk SSD PLUS 480 GB.
- Intel 760p 256GB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD.
Creative Sound Blaster Z.
Windows 10 x64 Pro.
etc
After much deliberation, I've upgraded to a 2080TI.
It's a Gigabyte gaming OC, was pleasantly surprised to see Samsung RAM and I haven't pushed it to the max but my overclocking is pretty much inline with other 2080TI reviews so I'm happy.
Haven't really tried much 3d yet, but for VR it's miles better than what I had and overall in my position I decided it was a worthwhile proposition.
The price is hard to stomach but it is what it is and contrary to popular opinion I don't subscribe to the belief that I'm encouraging price gouging. I know that any supplier will match the products and the price to demand, so I see myself as one of those people who's knowingly paying the early adopter tax.
Nvidia could price the card at $10,000 but they wouldn't sell any, clearly. Once the move to 7nm is here things will improve for everyone as it's only a tiny proportion of people willing or able to buy an overpriced luxury item like this.
After much deliberation, I've upgraded to a 2080TI.
It's a Gigabyte gaming OC, was pleasantly surprised to see Samsung RAM and I haven't pushed it to the max but my overclocking is pretty much inline with other 2080TI reviews so I'm happy.
Haven't really tried much 3d yet, but for VR it's miles better than what I had and overall in my position I decided it was a worthwhile proposition.
The price is hard to stomach but it is what it is and contrary to popular opinion I don't subscribe to the belief that I'm encouraging price gouging. I know that any supplier will match the products and the price to demand, so I see myself as one of those people who's knowingly paying the early adopter tax.
Nvidia could price the card at $10,000 but they wouldn't sell any, clearly. Once the move to 7nm is here things will improve for everyone as it's only a tiny proportion of people willing or able to buy an overpriced luxury item like this.
Gigabyte RTX2080TI Gaming OC, I7-6700k ~ 4.4Ghz, 3x BenQ XL2420T, BenQ TK800, LG 55EG960V (3D OLED), Samsung 850 EVO SSD, Crucial M4 SSD, 3D vision kit, Xpand x104 glasses, Corsair HX1000i, Win 10 pro 64/Win 7 64https://www.3dmark.com/fs/9529310
Congrats on the purchase Russell, I firmly believe that you made a great choice :)
Selling those 2 1070s on the ol' bay will net you more than half of what you paid for the 2080Ti so it's not /that/ much of a deep scrounge into ones pockets, compared to the value one would get out of its ownership :)
Congrats on the purchase Russell, I firmly believe that you made a great choice :)
Selling those 2 1070s on the ol' bay will net you more than half of what you paid for the 2080Ti so it's not /that/ much of a deep scrounge into ones pockets, compared to the value one would get out of its ownership :)
Windows 10 64-bit, Intel 7700K @ 5.1GHz, 16GB 3600MHz CL15 DDR4 RAM, 2x GTX 1080 SLI, Asus Maximus IX Hero, Sound Blaster ZxR, PCIe Quad SSD, Oculus Rift CV1, DLP Link PGD-150 glasses, ViewSonic PJD6531w 3D DLP Projector @ 1280x800 120Hz native / 2560x1600 120Hz DSR 3D Gaming.
Well that's the thinking :-)
I've already sold one of the 1070's and like you say I can get back about 65% of the original price after 2 years of use, so there's nothing to complain about really.
Although for some older games and benchmarks it's technically slightly slower than 1070 SLI, but given the VR benefits and removing myself from the shackles of SLI profiles I decided it was a choice worth making.
It's definitely a better solution, just wish it was more of a jump but then that's what everyone else was thinking too.
I've already sold one of the 1070's and like you say I can get back about 65% of the original price after 2 years of use, so there's nothing to complain about really.
Although for some older games and benchmarks it's technically slightly slower than 1070 SLI, but given the VR benefits and removing myself from the shackles of SLI profiles I decided it was a choice worth making.
It's definitely a better solution, just wish it was more of a jump but then that's what everyone else was thinking too.
Gigabyte RTX2080TI Gaming OC, I7-6700k ~ 4.4Ghz, 3x BenQ XL2420T, BenQ TK800, LG 55EG960V (3D OLED), Samsung 850 EVO SSD, Crucial M4 SSD, 3D vision kit, Xpand x104 glasses, Corsair HX1000i, Win 10 pro 64/Win 7 64https://www.3dmark.com/fs/9529310
Technically on paper my SLI configuration should be faster than a single 2080ti.
In reality with the poor SLI support and glitches in 3dvision...... not so much.
Will probably get a 2080ti (even though I am loathe too) for this reason alone,
Technically on paper my SLI configuration should be faster than a single 2080ti.
In reality with the poor SLI support and glitches in 3dvision...... not so much.
Will probably get a 2080ti (even though I am loathe too) for this reason alone,
i7-4790K CPU 4.8Ghz stable overclock.
16 GB RAM Corsair
ASUS Turbo 2080TI
Samsung SSD 840Pro
ASUS Z97-WS3D
Surround ASUS Rog Swift PG278Q(R), 2x PG278Q (yes it works)
Obutto R3volution.
Windows 10 pro 64x (Windows 7 Dual boot)
There was an article at this time last year that stated that Samsung's GDDR6 was exceptionally faster than the competition.
https://www.neowin.net/news/samsung-jumps-ahead-of-its-competition-with-faster-gddr6-memory
There's also been suggestions that the RTX 2080ti cards that are failing is due to the use of Micon GDDR6. It seems that some RMA GPUs have been returned with Samsung in place of the Micron. But this might simply be due to having supply in stock vs needing to order it in.
https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/1079421/geforce-rtx-20-series/rtx-2080ti-new-batch-gets-samsung-memory-/
When I took it apart to put my waterblock I believe I saw samsung chips on the card. I can't be 100% sure though... (as I opened my 980Tis as well, to repaste and do some cleaning before I sold them).
Out of curiosity, why do you ask? is there something wrong with the samsung chips?
1x Palit RTX 2080Ti Pro Gaming OC(watercooled and overclocked to hell)
3x 3D Vision Ready Asus VG278HE monitors (5760x1080).
Intel i9 9900K (overclocked to 5.3 and watercooled ofc).
Asus Maximus XI Hero Mobo.
16 GB Team Group T-Force Dark Pro DDR4 @ 3600.
Lots of Disks:
- Raid 0 - 256GB Sandisk Extreme SSD.
- Raid 0 - WD Black - 2TB.
- SanDisk SSD PLUS 480 GB.
- Intel 760p 256GB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD.
Creative Sound Blaster Z.
Windows 10 x64 Pro.
etc
My website with my fixes and OpenGL to 3D Vision wrapper:
http://3dsurroundgaming.com
(If you like some of the stuff that I've done and want to donate something, you can do it with PayPal at tavyhome@gmail.com)
That's a beautiful system Helifax, well done! :)
Where do you put your games for fast loading? Not on the 2TB Hard Disk I hope!
Windows 10 64-bit, Intel 7700K @ 5.1GHz, 16GB 3600MHz CL15 DDR4 RAM, 2x GTX 1080 SLI, Asus Maximus IX Hero, Sound Blaster ZxR, PCIe Quad SSD, Oculus Rift CV1, DLP Link PGD-150 glasses, ViewSonic PJD6531w 3D DLP Projector @ 1280x800 120Hz native / 2560x1600 120Hz DSR 3D Gaming.
There's definitely nothing wrong with the Samsung chips. As D-Man said, there was speculation that early failures were to do with the VRAM. At the moment, I believe all 3 manufacturers supply the RAM and they are all to the same spec. But, from what I've read, the Samsung RAM definitely overclocks better and apparently uses less power. I also read somewhere that it's built on a smaller process node, which could explain it.
Gigabyte RTX2080TI Gaming OC, I7-6700k ~ 4.4Ghz, 3x BenQ XL2420T, BenQ TK800, LG 55EG960V (3D OLED), Samsung 850 EVO SSD, Crucial M4 SSD, 3D vision kit, Xpand x104 glasses, Corsair HX1000i, Win 10 pro 64/Win 7 64https://www.3dmark.com/fs/9529310
Thanks!
The 2TB is a RAID 0 and works pretty good.
But that's why I got one theses:
Intel 760p 256GB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD
(https://www.scan.co.uk/products/256gb-intel-ssd-760p-series-m2-2280-pcie-31-x4-nvme-ssd-tlc-3d-nand-3210mb-s-read-1315mb-s-write-205?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIqMHZ--Oz4AIVixbTCh2bHgtuEAQYAyABEgLh6_D_BwE)
I normally copy the big games from the 2TB one to the NVMe SSD. (Based on what I want to play).
Awesome piece of tech;))
(I see I forgot to add it in the signature ^_^. Edit: Signature Updated ^_^).
1x Palit RTX 2080Ti Pro Gaming OC(watercooled and overclocked to hell)
3x 3D Vision Ready Asus VG278HE monitors (5760x1080).
Intel i9 9900K (overclocked to 5.3 and watercooled ofc).
Asus Maximus XI Hero Mobo.
16 GB Team Group T-Force Dark Pro DDR4 @ 3600.
Lots of Disks:
- Raid 0 - 256GB Sandisk Extreme SSD.
- Raid 0 - WD Black - 2TB.
- SanDisk SSD PLUS 480 GB.
- Intel 760p 256GB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD.
Creative Sound Blaster Z.
Windows 10 x64 Pro.
etc
My website with my fixes and OpenGL to 3D Vision wrapper:
http://3dsurroundgaming.com
(If you like some of the stuff that I've done and want to donate something, you can do it with PayPal at tavyhome@gmail.com)
Windows 10 64-bit, Intel 7700K @ 5.1GHz, 16GB 3600MHz CL15 DDR4 RAM, 2x GTX 1080 SLI, Asus Maximus IX Hero, Sound Blaster ZxR, PCIe Quad SSD, Oculus Rift CV1, DLP Link PGD-150 glasses, ViewSonic PJD6531w 3D DLP Projector @ 1280x800 120Hz native / 2560x1600 120Hz DSR 3D Gaming.
It's a Gigabyte gaming OC, was pleasantly surprised to see Samsung RAM and I haven't pushed it to the max but my overclocking is pretty much inline with other 2080TI reviews so I'm happy.
Haven't really tried much 3d yet, but for VR it's miles better than what I had and overall in my position I decided it was a worthwhile proposition.
The price is hard to stomach but it is what it is and contrary to popular opinion I don't subscribe to the belief that I'm encouraging price gouging. I know that any supplier will match the products and the price to demand, so I see myself as one of those people who's knowingly paying the early adopter tax.
Nvidia could price the card at $10,000 but they wouldn't sell any, clearly. Once the move to 7nm is here things will improve for everyone as it's only a tiny proportion of people willing or able to buy an overpriced luxury item like this.
Gigabyte RTX2080TI Gaming OC, I7-6700k ~ 4.4Ghz, 3x BenQ XL2420T, BenQ TK800, LG 55EG960V (3D OLED), Samsung 850 EVO SSD, Crucial M4 SSD, 3D vision kit, Xpand x104 glasses, Corsair HX1000i, Win 10 pro 64/Win 7 64https://www.3dmark.com/fs/9529310
Selling those 2 1070s on the ol' bay will net you more than half of what you paid for the 2080Ti so it's not /that/ much of a deep scrounge into ones pockets, compared to the value one would get out of its ownership :)
Windows 10 64-bit, Intel 7700K @ 5.1GHz, 16GB 3600MHz CL15 DDR4 RAM, 2x GTX 1080 SLI, Asus Maximus IX Hero, Sound Blaster ZxR, PCIe Quad SSD, Oculus Rift CV1, DLP Link PGD-150 glasses, ViewSonic PJD6531w 3D DLP Projector @ 1280x800 120Hz native / 2560x1600 120Hz DSR 3D Gaming.
I've already sold one of the 1070's and like you say I can get back about 65% of the original price after 2 years of use, so there's nothing to complain about really.
Although for some older games and benchmarks it's technically slightly slower than 1070 SLI, but given the VR benefits and removing myself from the shackles of SLI profiles I decided it was a choice worth making.
It's definitely a better solution, just wish it was more of a jump but then that's what everyone else was thinking too.
Gigabyte RTX2080TI Gaming OC, I7-6700k ~ 4.4Ghz, 3x BenQ XL2420T, BenQ TK800, LG 55EG960V (3D OLED), Samsung 850 EVO SSD, Crucial M4 SSD, 3D vision kit, Xpand x104 glasses, Corsair HX1000i, Win 10 pro 64/Win 7 64https://www.3dmark.com/fs/9529310
In reality with the poor SLI support and glitches in 3dvision...... not so much.
Will probably get a 2080ti (even though I am loathe too) for this reason alone,
i7-4790K CPU 4.8Ghz stable overclock.
16 GB RAM Corsair
ASUS Turbo 2080TI
Samsung SSD 840Pro
ASUS Z97-WS3D
Surround ASUS Rog Swift PG278Q(R), 2x PG278Q (yes it works)
Obutto R3volution.
Windows 10 pro 64x (Windows 7 Dual boot)