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Read this thread over in the 1000 series board https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/940713/geforce-1000-series/very-bad-performance-in-3dvision-with-1080/ Just wondering if any stereoscopic gamers on this board have a 10 series card yet and what kind of performance they are experiencing?
Read this thread over in the 1000 series board

https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/940713/geforce-1000-series/very-bad-performance-in-3dvision-with-1080/

Just wondering if any stereoscopic gamers on this board have a 10 series card yet and what kind of performance they are experiencing?

#1
Posted 06/13/2016 11:19 AM   
[quote="ummester"]Read this thread over in the 1000 series board https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/940713/geforce-1000-series/very-bad-performance-in-3dvision-with-1080/ Just wondering if any stereoscopic gamers on this board have a 10 series card yet and what kind of performance they are experiencing?[/quote] I own a EVGA Geforce 1080 GTX Founder's Edition I updated from a Asus Titan X with a Custom bios and cooler depending on the game roughly 15% - 25% gain this video card is idea for a one card solution to play 1080P@60 3D with all the eye candy turn on.
ummester said:Read this thread over in the 1000 series board


https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/940713/geforce-1000-series/very-bad-performance-in-3dvision-with-1080/


Just wondering if any stereoscopic gamers on this board have a 10 series card yet and what kind of performance they are experiencing?


I own a EVGA Geforce 1080 GTX Founder's Edition I updated from a Asus Titan X with a Custom bios and cooler depending on the game roughly 15% - 25% gain this video card is idea for a one card solution to play 1080P@60 3D with all the eye candy turn on.

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#2
Posted 06/13/2016 11:48 AM   
Thanks zig - that is good to know. I think I lean towards a 1070 over 980Ti because of the lower power requirement - but 3d Vision performance is obviously important to me.
Thanks zig - that is good to know. I think I lean towards a 1070 over 980Ti because of the lower power requirement - but 3d Vision performance is obviously important to me.

#3
Posted 06/13/2016 01:21 PM   
Being a GTX 980ti owner, you should know that Nvidia has had a hard time maintaining power consumption and temps since launch for all Maxwell cards from one driver to another. Even more so, when a second monitor(or more) is connected. With the Die shrink to 16nm in Pascal, the performance per watt is greatly increased. But I would not really see a reason to go from a 980ti to a 1070. Currently, the only feature exclusive to Pascal that can be taken advantage of in a few limited games is Ansel. http://www.geforce.com/hardware/technology/ansel I would wait until more reviews are out and the driver mature a little. Or as others are doing, wait for a ti version.
Being a GTX 980ti owner, you should know that Nvidia has had a hard time maintaining power consumption and temps since launch for all Maxwell cards from one driver to another. Even more so, when a second monitor(or more) is connected.

With the Die shrink to 16nm in Pascal, the performance per watt is greatly increased. But I would not really see a reason to go from a 980ti to a 1070. Currently, the only feature exclusive to Pascal that can be taken advantage of in a few limited games is Ansel.

http://www.geforce.com/hardware/technology/ansel

I would wait until more reviews are out and the driver mature a little. Or as others are doing, wait for a ti version.

#4
Posted 06/13/2016 01:57 PM   
I'm still on a 760 D-Man, so either will be a step up in performance for me. But they are the 2 options I'm thinking about ATM.
I'm still on a 760 D-Man, so either will be a step up in performance for me. But they are the 2 options I'm thinking about ATM.

#5
Posted 06/13/2016 02:05 PM   
Oh, definitely go for the 1070 then. It is more future proof with better dx12 support and Display Port 1.4 output. Plus more VR Works support that now seems exclusive to Pascal. Here'a a Firestrike comparison. http://videocardz.com/60265/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1070-3dmark-firestrike-benchmarks
Oh, definitely go for the 1070 then.

It is more future proof with better dx12 support and Display Port 1.4 output.

Plus more VR Works support that now seems exclusive to Pascal.

Here'a a Firestrike comparison.

http://videocardz.com/60265/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1070-3dmark-firestrike-benchmarks

#6
Posted 06/13/2016 02:12 PM   
If I'm correct the 980Ti is still close to $600 and 1070 is $450 for the founder's edition. According to all the benchmarks I seem 1070 is faster than 980 Ti by almost 5% also you are getting more VRam 6GB 980Ti 8GB 1070. also as D-Man pointed out performance per watt is greatly increased due to die shrink. I can get only verify the 1080 works well with 3D vision because I own it so I will assume 1070 works well.
If I'm correct the 980Ti is still close to $600 and 1070 is $450 for the founder's edition.

According to all the benchmarks I seem 1070 is faster than 980 Ti by almost 5% also you are getting more VRam 6GB 980Ti 8GB 1070.
also as D-Man pointed out performance per watt is greatly increased due to die shrink.
I can get only verify the 1080 works well with 3D vision because I own it so I will assume 1070 works well.

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#7
Posted 06/13/2016 02:14 PM   
I'll buy whatever feels fair for the price, here in Europe. For example, I'd buy a 700€ 1080 over a 499€ 1070, but I'd buy a 450€ 1070 over a 799€ 1080. When there is stock, of course.
I'll buy whatever feels fair for the price, here in Europe. For example, I'd buy a 700€ 1080 over a 499€ 1070, but I'd buy a 450€ 1070 over a 799€ 1080.

When there is stock, of course.

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#8
Posted 06/13/2016 04:58 PM   
[quote="ummester"]Read this thread over in the 1000 series board https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/940713/geforce-1000-series/very-bad-performance-in-3dvision-with-1080/ Just wondering if any stereoscopic gamers on this board have a 10 series card yet and what kind of performance they are experiencing?[/quote] that is my post. i don' understand what happens. could be drivers problem. For example, in skyrim the cpu and gpu usage is very low. without 3dvision active i get over 100 fps in 25560x1440 with AAX8, if i active 3dvison frames drop to 40 more or les. if i run the game at 720p without AA, i get the same fps! In the witcher 2, the same history. it's not windows 10 because a have other SSD with win 8.1 and it's the same. At 2d everything run fine, in the HTC VIVE too.
ummester said:Read this thread over in the 1000 series board


https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/940713/geforce-1000-series/very-bad-performance-in-3dvision-with-1080/


Just wondering if any stereoscopic gamers on this board have a 10 series card yet and what kind of performance they are experiencing?


that is my post.

i don' understand what happens. could be drivers problem. For example, in skyrim the cpu and gpu usage is very low. without 3dvision active i get over 100 fps in 25560x1440 with AAX8, if i active 3dvison frames drop to 40 more or les. if i run the game at 720p without AA, i get the same fps!

In the witcher 2, the same history.

it's not windows 10 because a have other SSD with win 8.1 and it's the same.

At 2d everything run fine, in the HTC VIVE too.

#9
Posted 06/13/2016 05:46 PM   
[quote="_c_"][quote="ummester"]Read this thread over in the 1000 series board https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/940713/geforce-1000-series/very-bad-performance-in-3dvision-with-1080/ Just wondering if any stereoscopic gamers on this board have a 10 series card yet and what kind of performance they are experiencing?[/quote] that is my post. i don' understand what happens. could be drivers problem. For example, in skyrim the cpu and gpu usage is very low. without 3dvision active i get over 100 fps in 25560x1440 with AAX8, if i active 3dvison frames drop to 40 more or les. if i run the game at 720p without AA, i get the same fps! In the witcher 2, the same history. it's not windows 10 because a have other SSD with win 8.1 and it's the same. At 2d everything run fine, in the HTC VIVE too.[/quote] That sounds like a driver bug. You should report it in the driver thread.
_c_ said:
ummester said:Read this thread over in the 1000 series board


https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/940713/geforce-1000-series/very-bad-performance-in-3dvision-with-1080/


Just wondering if any stereoscopic gamers on this board have a 10 series card yet and what kind of performance they are experiencing?


that is my post.

i don' understand what happens. could be drivers problem. For example, in skyrim the cpu and gpu usage is very low. without 3dvision active i get over 100 fps in 25560x1440 with AAX8, if i active 3dvison frames drop to 40 more or les. if i run the game at 720p without AA, i get the same fps!

In the witcher 2, the same history.

it's not windows 10 because a have other SSD with win 8.1 and it's the same.

At 2d everything run fine, in the HTC VIVE too.


That sounds like a driver bug. You should report it in the driver thread.

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#10
Posted 06/13/2016 06:56 PM   
[quote="_c_"][quote="ummester"]Read this thread over in the 1000 series board https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/940713/geforce-1000-series/very-bad-performance-in-3dvision-with-1080/ Just wondering if any stereoscopic gamers on this board have a 10 series card yet and what kind of performance they are experiencing?[/quote] that is my post. i don' understand what happens. could be drivers problem. For example, in skyrim the cpu and gpu usage is very low. without 3dvision active i get over 100 fps in 25560x1440 with AAX8, if i active 3dvison frames drop to 40 more or les. if i run the game at 720p without AA, i get the same fps! In the witcher 2, the same history. it's not windows 10 because a have other SSD with win 8.1 and it's the same. At 2d everything run fine, in the HTC VIVE too.[/quote] Did you get o the bottom of this? I think I have the same issue. 1070 here and 3D Vision performance is much lower than I'd expect in some games. Trine 2 being the most obvious where I can't even maintain 30fps at any settiings/resolution! Without 3D vision though I can max it out at 60fps with ease. RotTR also drops below 30 at 1080 in 3D vision - with everything else maxxed out.
_c_ said:
ummester said:Read this thread over in the 1000 series board


https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/940713/geforce-1000-series/very-bad-performance-in-3dvision-with-1080/


Just wondering if any stereoscopic gamers on this board have a 10 series card yet and what kind of performance they are experiencing?


that is my post.

i don' understand what happens. could be drivers problem. For example, in skyrim the cpu and gpu usage is very low. without 3dvision active i get over 100 fps in 25560x1440 with AAX8, if i active 3dvison frames drop to 40 more or les. if i run the game at 720p without AA, i get the same fps!

In the witcher 2, the same history.

it's not windows 10 because a have other SSD with win 8.1 and it's the same.

At 2d everything run fine, in the HTC VIVE too.


Did you get o the bottom of this? I think I have the same issue. 1070 here and 3D Vision performance is much lower than I'd expect in some games. Trine 2 being the most obvious where I can't even maintain 30fps at any settiings/resolution! Without 3D vision though I can max it out at 60fps with ease. RotTR also drops below 30 at 1080 in 3D vision - with everything else maxxed out.

#11
Posted 07/24/2016 03:26 PM   
I built a 1070 gtx for my brother and a 1080 gtx for myself. The 1070 gtx had pretty much the exact same performance in 3d vision as my 980 ti did. (Thus I should have just given my brother the 980 ti, but oops :P) The 1080 GTX is probably about 25% faster. The only thing I noticed is rise of the tomb raider kept crashing with 368.81 drivers, and then when i went to 368.95 hotfix drivers the game started working again. Aside from that, I have not noticed anything particularly detrimental about these series of cards in 3d compared to before. The games I've played with clear improvement because of the 1080 gtx upgrade was.. Dreamfall Chapters Witcher 3 Rise of the Tomb Raider Lightning Returns. (not improvement since it works fine). Grand Theft Auto 5. (Slight improvement, this game I believe is known to have poor performance in 3d because of 3 core bug, with my 980 ti)
I built a 1070 gtx for my brother and a 1080 gtx for myself.

The 1070 gtx had pretty much the exact same performance in 3d vision as my 980 ti did. (Thus I should have just given my brother the 980 ti, but oops :P)

The 1080 GTX is probably about 25% faster.

The only thing I noticed is rise of the tomb raider kept crashing with 368.81 drivers, and then when i went to 368.95 hotfix drivers the game started working again.

Aside from that, I have not noticed anything particularly detrimental about these series of cards in 3d compared to before. The games I've played with clear improvement because of the 1080 gtx upgrade was..

Dreamfall Chapters
Witcher 3
Rise of the Tomb Raider
Lightning Returns. (not improvement since it works fine).
Grand Theft Auto 5. (Slight improvement, this game I believe is known to have poor performance in 3d because of 3 core bug, with my 980 ti)

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#12
Posted 07/24/2016 07:02 PM   
I'm coming from a Titan X with a custom bios and cooling. I currently own a MSI Gamer X 1080 GTX and performance is increased 15 to 25 % over my titan x.
I'm coming from a Titan X with a custom bios and cooling.

I currently own a MSI Gamer X 1080 GTX and performance is increased 15 to 25 % over my titan x.

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#13
Posted 07/24/2016 07:16 PM   
[quote="zig11727"][quote="ummester"]Read this thread over in the 1000 series board https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/940713/geforce-1000-series/very-bad-performance-in-3dvision-with-1080/ Just wondering if any stereoscopic gamers on this board have a 10 series card yet and what kind of performance they are experiencing?[/quote] I own a EVGA Geforce 1080 GTX Founder's Edition I updated from a Asus Titan X with a Custom bios and cooler depending on the game roughly 15% - 25% gain this video card is idea for a one card solution to play 1080P@60 3D with all the eye candy turn on.[/quote] It can´t perform ? the 980ti for example in tombraider dips very often below 30 and the 1080 ain´t that much faster. Ok i have a i5-2500k@4.3 so it´s not the most efficient cpu anymore.
zig11727 said:
ummester said:Read this thread over in the 1000 series board


https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/940713/geforce-1000-series/very-bad-performance-in-3dvision-with-1080/


Just wondering if any stereoscopic gamers on this board have a 10 series card yet and what kind of performance they are experiencing?


I own a EVGA Geforce 1080 GTX Founder's Edition I updated from a Asus Titan X with a Custom bios and cooler depending on the game roughly 15% - 25% gain this video card is idea for a one card solution to play 1080P@60 3D with all the eye candy turn on.


It can´t perform ? the 980ti for example in tombraider dips very often below 30 and the 1080 ain´t that much faster. Ok i have a i5-2500k@4.3 so it´s not the most efficient cpu anymore.

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#14
Posted 07/25/2016 05:09 PM   
[quote="ishiki"]I built a 1070 gtx for my brother and a 1080 gtx for myself. The 1070 gtx had pretty much the exact same performance in 3d vision as my 980 ti did. (Thus I should have just given my brother the 980 ti, but oops :P) The 1080 GTX is probably about 25% faster. The only thing I noticed is rise of the tomb raider kept crashing with 368.81 drivers, and then when i went to 368.95 hotfix drivers the game started working again. Aside from that, I have not noticed anything particularly detrimental about these series of cards in 3d compared to before. The games I've played with clear improvement because of the 1080 gtx upgrade was.. Dreamfall Chapters Witcher 3 Rise of the Tomb Raider Lightning Returns. (not improvement since it works fine). Grand Theft Auto 5. (Slight improvement, this game I believe is known to have poor performance in 3d because of 3 core bug, with my 980 ti)[/quote] I can't even maintain 30fps all of the time at 900p in GTAV at high settings with all advanced graphics options turned off. That's on a 1070 in 3D vision. Performance is spectacular in 2D. Somethings definitely wrong.
ishiki said:I built a 1070 gtx for my brother and a 1080 gtx for myself.

The 1070 gtx had pretty much the exact same performance in 3d vision as my 980 ti did. (Thus I should have just given my brother the 980 ti, but oops :P)

The 1080 GTX is probably about 25% faster.

The only thing I noticed is rise of the tomb raider kept crashing with 368.81 drivers, and then when i went to 368.95 hotfix drivers the game started working again.

Aside from that, I have not noticed anything particularly detrimental about these series of cards in 3d compared to before. The games I've played with clear improvement because of the 1080 gtx upgrade was..

Dreamfall Chapters
Witcher 3
Rise of the Tomb Raider
Lightning Returns. (not improvement since it works fine).
Grand Theft Auto 5. (Slight improvement, this game I believe is known to have poor performance in 3d because of 3 core bug, with my 980 ti)


I can't even maintain 30fps all of the time at 900p in GTAV at high settings with all advanced graphics options turned off. That's on a 1070 in 3D vision. Performance is spectacular in 2D. Somethings definitely wrong.

#15
Posted 08/16/2016 05:46 PM   
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