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[quote="Laast"]In any case, ESO won't be on the Nvidia's list of DX11 games with "3D compatibility mode". Simply because there is a DX9 version of the game (which allows a true stereoscopic 3D). And that's a good thing. All we need is a little fix for shadows/sky/water from modders. But it seems none of them play ESO...[/quote] Its very likely that any DX11 game can be allowed to run in "compatibility mode" by simply adding its .exe to an existing profile [like bioschock infinite/saints row iv]. Though it won't work till fullscreen mode is added. It explained in my link below[My guides]. Though again, it doesnt matter till they add fullscreen support. [If they do, or whatever. I have no idea since I don't follow it]
Laast said:In any case, ESO won't be on the Nvidia's list of DX11 games with "3D compatibility mode". Simply because there is a DX9 version of the game (which allows a true stereoscopic 3D). And that's a good thing.

All we need is a little fix for shadows/sky/water from modders. But it seems none of them play ESO...

Its very likely that any DX11 game can be allowed to run in "compatibility mode" by simply adding its .exe to an existing profile [like bioschock infinite/saints row iv]. Though it won't work till fullscreen mode is added.

It explained in my link below[My guides]. Though again, it doesnt matter till they add fullscreen support. [If they do, or whatever. I have no idea since I don't follow it]

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Posted 04/13/2014 08:00 AM   
[quote="eqzitara"][quote="Zularan"] In my research I came across this post on the [url=http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/63685/3d-vision]German ESO forums[/url] and pushes out the UI. Contained there are 3 modified UI vertex shaders I was working with but this person made the mods I was trying to do. Includes shaderoverride and dx9settings.ini. [/quote] Thats file I posted earlier in thread[along time ago]. Disables crosshair and pushes hud further into depth. [/quote] Ah thanks for that, missed that. Thanks for doing that I learned a lot by looking at what you did there. Right now I'm working with the character shadows and tree shadows on the ground with limited success. Guides are hard to find and get my head around but I'm using [url=http://helixmod.blogspot.com.au/2012/03/dlls-update.html]Helix blog[/url] and the [url=https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/513190/3d-vision/how-to-fix-disable-shaders-in-games-dll-guide-and-fixes-/post/3653617/#3653617]How to fix/disable shaders megathread[/url] on these forums. Do you know of any others ? When I played FFXIV I learned howto disable shaders but modifying them is turning out to be a challenge.
eqzitara said:
Zularan said:
In my research I came across this post on the German ESO forums and pushes out the UI. Contained there are 3 modified UI vertex shaders I was working with but this person made the mods I was trying to do. Includes shaderoverride and dx9settings.ini.

Thats file I posted earlier in thread[along time ago]. Disables crosshair and pushes hud further into depth.


Ah thanks for that, missed that.

Thanks for doing that I learned a lot by looking at what you did there. Right now I'm working with the character shadows and tree shadows on the ground with limited success.

Guides are hard to find and get my head around but I'm using Helix blog and the How to fix/disable shaders megathread on these forums. Do you know of any others ?

When I played FFXIV I learned howto disable shaders but modifying them is turning out to be a challenge.

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Posted 04/13/2014 08:14 AM   
[quote="Zularan"][ Guides are hard to find and get my head around but I'm using [url=http://helixmod.blogspot.com.au/2012/03/dlls-update.html]Helix blog[/url] and the [url=https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/513190/3d-vision/how-to-fix-disable-shaders-in-games-dll-guide-and-fixes-/post/3653617/#3653617]How to fix/disable shaders megathread[/url] on these forums. Do you know of any others ?[/quote]Awesome! Always great to see people giving it a try. Here's a compilation that I made to detail a LOT of the info you'll want, as you learn how to make fixes. [url]http://helixmod.blogspot.com/2014/01/learning-how-to-fix-games.html[/url]
Zularan said:[
Guides are hard to find and get my head around but I'm using Helix blog and the How to fix/disable shaders megathread on these forums. Do you know of any others ?
Awesome! Always great to see people giving it a try.

Here's a compilation that I made to detail a LOT of the info you'll want, as you learn how to make fixes.

http://helixmod.blogspot.com/2014/01/learning-how-to-fix-games.html

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Posted 04/13/2014 09:48 AM   
[quote="bo3b"][quote="Zularan"][ Guides are hard to find and get my head around but I'm using [url=http://helixmod.blogspot.com.au/2012/03/dlls-update.html]Helix blog[/url] and the [url=https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/513190/3d-vision/how-to-fix-disable-shaders-in-games-dll-guide-and-fixes-/post/3653617/#3653617]How to fix/disable shaders megathread[/url] on these forums. Do you know of any others ?[/quote]Awesome! Always great to see people giving it a try. Here's a compilation that I made to detail a LOT of the info you'll want, as you learn how to make fixes. [url]http://helixmod.blogspot.com/2014/01/learning-how-to-fix-games.html[/url][/quote] Also, if you have not already, look at other games fixes - download them from the Helixblog whether you have the game or not, to see if there are similar patterns. I don't have ESO, is it free? If you want to post a shadows Pixel Shader, I'll see if I can give you any insights.
bo3b said:
Zularan said:[
Guides are hard to find and get my head around but I'm using Helix blog and the How to fix/disable shaders megathread on these forums. Do you know of any others ?
Awesome! Always great to see people giving it a try.

Here's a compilation that I made to detail a LOT of the info you'll want, as you learn how to make fixes.

http://helixmod.blogspot.com/2014/01/learning-how-to-fix-games.html


Also, if you have not already, look at other games fixes - download them from the Helixblog whether you have the game or not, to see if there are similar patterns. I don't have ESO, is it free? If you want to post a shadows Pixel Shader, I'll see if I can give you any insights.

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Posted 04/13/2014 01:12 PM   
[quote="mike_ar69"] Also, if you have not already, look at other games fixes - download them from the Helixblog whether you have the game or not, to see if there are similar patterns. I don't have ESO, is it free? If you want to post a shadows Pixel Shader, I'll see if I can give you any insights.[/quote] The game is not free :-( What do you need to create a fix ?
mike_ar69 said:

Also, if you have not already, look at other games fixes - download them from the Helixblog whether you have the game or not, to see if there are similar patterns. I don't have ESO, is it free? If you want to post a shadows Pixel Shader, I'll see if I can give you any insights.


The game is not free :-( What do you need to create a fix ?

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Posted 04/13/2014 03:24 PM   
[quote="Losti"][quote="mike_ar69"] Also, if you have not already, look at other games fixes - download them from the Helixblog whether you have the game or not, to see if there are similar patterns. I don't have ESO, is it free? If you want to post a shadows Pixel Shader, I'll see if I can give you any insights.[/quote] The game is not free :-( What do you need to create a fix ?[/quote] I won't be able to fix it without buying it (and to be clear might be able to even if I did buy it..), but I could help someone else give it a shot. If the problems are shadows, then if someone uses the debug dll to step through shaders to identify which VS and PS affect shadows I *might* be able to suggest some ideas.
Losti said:
mike_ar69 said:

Also, if you have not already, look at other games fixes - download them from the Helixblog whether you have the game or not, to see if there are similar patterns. I don't have ESO, is it free? If you want to post a shadows Pixel Shader, I'll see if I can give you any insights.


The game is not free :-( What do you need to create a fix ?


I won't be able to fix it without buying it (and to be clear might be able to even if I did buy it..), but I could help someone else give it a shot. If the problems are shadows, then if someone uses the debug dll to step through shaders to identify which VS and PS affect shadows I *might* be able to suggest some ideas.

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Posted 04/13/2014 03:36 PM   
The main problem is the wrong depth of the water reflection and that some shadows are on the left or right eye but not on the other one. I cant find any VS/PS that fixes this problem with the debuging dll.
The main problem is the wrong depth of the water reflection and that some shadows are on the left or right eye but not on the other one.

I cant find any VS/PS that fixes this problem with the debuging dll.

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Posted 04/13/2014 05:40 PM   
It almost reminds me of the way Oblivion looked when i first started playing it in 3D in March of 2013, before i even knew about the magic of HelixMod.
It almost reminds me of the way Oblivion looked when i first started playing it in 3D in March of 2013, before i even knew about the magic of HelixMod.

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Posted 04/13/2014 06:00 PM   
[quote="NateDogg24"]Just in case we don't get a fix in the near future I wanted to share my settings with my friends here on the board. I have tried a lot of different settings & this works best visually IMO. Set the depth at 35% & on the start screen with your character hold F6 until your character lines up perfectly. This is going with lower depth & higher convergence because it keeps the shadows more in line. I have everything maxed except shadow quality to high & DOF off. The game is pretty good in 3d at night or indoors. The problems arise when the sun is out because of all the shadows. Its not perfect but to me a lot better than going shadows off. Also going VSync off in the NVidia driver gave me a huge FPS boost & I get no tearing.[/quote] Me neither, for some reason though when i enable V-sync it reduces my fps to 40-59. Maybe the GTX 660ti-AMP is not the best card suited for TESO in 3D...
NateDogg24 said:Just in case we don't get a fix in the near future I wanted to share my settings with my friends here on the board.

I have tried a lot of different settings & this works best visually IMO.

Set the depth at 35% & on the start screen with your character hold F6 until your character lines up perfectly. This is going with lower depth & higher convergence because it keeps the shadows more in line. I have everything maxed except shadow quality to high & DOF off.

The game is pretty good in 3d at night or indoors. The problems arise when the sun is out because of all the shadows. Its not perfect but to me a lot better than going shadows off.

Also going VSync off in the NVidia driver gave me a huge FPS boost & I get no tearing.


Me neither, for some reason though when i enable V-sync it reduces my fps to 40-59. Maybe the GTX 660ti-AMP is not the best card suited for TESO in 3D...

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Posted 04/13/2014 06:02 PM   
[quote="NateDogg24"]Reality is kind of sinking in here. If Eqzitara doesn't buy the game that needs a fix it doesn't happen. I almost guarantee after ESO implements TRUE full screen that Nvidia will issue 3d compatibility rated Excellent for this game. While I can handle the 3d CM mode for some games I can't handle it for this one. I may email Zenimax asking for 3d support but seems like a waste of time since I am sure they have about 100 other things higher on the priority list. I figure the chances of Nvidia or Zenimax fixing this is about the same chances of Goat Simulator outselling GTA 5.[/quote] I requested 3D Support like 3 times in February in the ESO Forums after that first BETA weekend. Who knows if they'll truly deliver.
NateDogg24 said:Reality is kind of sinking in here. If Eqzitara doesn't buy the game that needs a fix it doesn't happen.

I almost guarantee after ESO implements TRUE full screen that Nvidia will issue 3d compatibility rated Excellent for this game. While I can handle the 3d CM mode for some games I can't handle it for this one.

I may email Zenimax asking for 3d support but seems like a waste of time since I am sure they have about 100 other things higher on the priority list. I figure the chances of Nvidia or Zenimax fixing this is about the same chances of Goat Simulator outselling GTA 5.


I requested 3D Support like 3 times in February in the ESO Forums after that first BETA weekend. Who knows if they'll truly deliver.

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Posted 04/13/2014 06:09 PM   
[quote="mike_ar69"][quote="Losti"][quote="mike_ar69"] Also, if you have not already, look at other games fixes - download them from the Helixblog whether you have the game or not, to see if there are similar patterns. I don't have ESO, is it free? If you want to post a shadows Pixel Shader, I'll see if I can give you any insights.[/quote] The game is not free :-( What do you need to create a fix ?[/quote] I won't be able to fix it without buying it (and to be clear might be able to even if I did buy it..), but I could help someone else give it a shot. If the problems are shadows, then if someone uses the debug dll to step through shaders to identify which VS and PS affect shadows I *might* be able to suggest some ideas.[/quote] Someone1 "could" give account info I guess. Might be a decent alternative.
mike_ar69 said:
Losti said:
mike_ar69 said:

Also, if you have not already, look at other games fixes - download them from the Helixblog whether you have the game or not, to see if there are similar patterns. I don't have ESO, is it free? If you want to post a shadows Pixel Shader, I'll see if I can give you any insights.


The game is not free :-( What do you need to create a fix ?


I won't be able to fix it without buying it (and to be clear might be able to even if I did buy it..), but I could help someone else give it a shot. If the problems are shadows, then if someone uses the debug dll to step through shaders to identify which VS and PS affect shadows I *might* be able to suggest some ideas.


Someone1 "could" give account info I guess. Might be a decent alternative.

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Posted 04/13/2014 07:14 PM   
You can just edit the INI file and change from "d3d11" to d3d9 or even OpenGl all work. lol 3d does not. Yet Tridef does how kool
You can just edit the INI file and change from "d3d11" to d3d9 or even OpenGl all work. lol 3d does not.

Yet Tridef does how kool

Posted 04/14/2014 12:57 AM   
[quote="Zeeblade"]You can just edit the INI file and change from "d3d11" to d3d9 or even OpenGl all work. lol 3d does not. Yet Tridef does how kool[/quote] Your saying Tridef has a functional profile (not "power3D") for this game and it works? I've been waiting on the fence to pick this game up so might now if I can get a playable frame rate out of Tridef.
Zeeblade said:You can just edit the INI file and change from "d3d11" to d3d9 or even OpenGl all work. lol 3d does not.

Yet Tridef does how kool


Your saying Tridef has a functional profile (not "power3D") for this game and it works? I've been waiting on the fence to pick this game up so might now if I can get a playable frame rate out of Tridef.

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Posted 04/14/2014 01:01 AM   
Real - It disables stuff. No idea what. I saw people talk about it on there forums. It makes game too dark(?). Which I dont even want to think about why. [url]https://www.tridef.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=4577[/url] ----------------- Even if it was "real"/perfect you would have to contend with a 2D crosshair tbh.
Real - It disables stuff. No idea what.

I saw people talk about it on there forums. It makes game too dark(?). Which I dont even want to think about why.
https://www.tridef.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=4577

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Posted 04/14/2014 01:39 AM   
[quote="eqzitara"] Someone1 "could" give account info I guess. Might be a decent alternative.[/quote] Sadly, since the beta is over, you have to buy the game's client. Giving account informations isn't enough.
eqzitara said:
Someone1 "could" give account info I guess. Might be a decent alternative.


Sadly, since the beta is over, you have to buy the game's client. Giving account informations isn't enough.

Posted 04/14/2014 09:43 AM   
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