Search information about EDID for 3DVision on LG OLED 4K 55EF950V (55EF9500)
25 / 32
[quote="sebastatu"]Oh good to know I will give this a try. Is this the reason why HDR does not trigger when watching HDR video files? I can only get them to trigger by plugging my external Hard Drive directly into the USB port of the TV. I thought the problem was the player.
Thanks for the explanation. [/quote]
The reason is because HDR movie files have a metadata information file that needs to be passed through to the display.
The best way to watch HDR movies in windows is using MadVR which is a DirectShow video renderer that has support for HDR passthrough and also supports 3D video playback.
You will also need a compatible video player that supports MadVR for example Media player classic, Pot player or DSplayer.
MadVR has a tutorial on their forum which will help you set it up.
Edit- All the mentioned software is free.
sebastatu said:Oh good to know I will give this a try. Is this the reason why HDR does not trigger when watching HDR video files? I can only get them to trigger by plugging my external Hard Drive directly into the USB port of the TV. I thought the problem was the player.
Thanks for the explanation.
The reason is because HDR movie files have a metadata information file that needs to be passed through to the display.
The best way to watch HDR movies in windows is using MadVR which is a DirectShow video renderer that has support for HDR passthrough and also supports 3D video playback.
You will also need a compatible video player that supports MadVR for example Media player classic, Pot player or DSplayer.
MadVR has a tutorial on their forum which will help you set it up.
Talking about HDR, i discovered this wonderfull thread yesterday, i read all posts of the author.
Great advices!
Especially how to setup HDR for each sliders the games offer.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/hdr-games-analysed.23587/
[quote="Sideeffect-UK"][quote="danjrowe27"]
Hi. I just picked up a C6 recently and am using your EDID override. First off it works great, so than you for that. But I'd like to ask about HDR as this if my first experience with an HDR display. What's the correct way to set your HDR settings for gaming? As of now in the Nvidia control panel, I have it set to automatic. Will this provide the full color range? If I go to manual, RGB limits me to only 8bit. Shouldn't it be 10bit for HDR10?[/quote]
Unfortunately you can't set automatic because Microsoft just keeps messing up the settings and performing dithering or messing up the dynamic range.
Set yCbCr422 10-bit in Nvidia colour settings. Set TV to Game console input label and HDR game. Some games like Far cry 5 will automatically enable Nvidia HDR api when you start the game or enable the option in game. Other games like Shadow of War you will need to enable the Microsoft HDR toggle before you start the game.
The LG C6/E6 has a bug where HDR is not working correctly in PC input. Rec.709 is output instead of BT2020.
This issue might be fixed but at the moment
-for 3D gaming and normal SDR gaming use PC input RGB 8-bit full dynamic range and High or auto black level on TV. This will allow Chroma 4:4:4 and be the best experience.
-for HDR gaming use any other input apart from PC but make sure your in HDR game mode to reduce input lag.
-For HDR movies use any other input apart from PC HDR standard real cinema on Trumotion off.
-For SDR movies I still stay in game console input because real cinema doesn't work in PC input.[/quote]
Does this apply to 3D HDR gaming too? Thanks
danjrowe27 said:
Hi. I just picked up a C6 recently and am using your EDID override. First off it works great, so than you for that. But I'd like to ask about HDR as this if my first experience with an HDR display. What's the correct way to set your HDR settings for gaming? As of now in the Nvidia control panel, I have it set to automatic. Will this provide the full color range? If I go to manual, RGB limits me to only 8bit. Shouldn't it be 10bit for HDR10?
Unfortunately you can't set automatic because Microsoft just keeps messing up the settings and performing dithering or messing up the dynamic range.
Set yCbCr422 10-bit in Nvidia colour settings. Set TV to Game console input label and HDR game. Some games like Far cry 5 will automatically enable Nvidia HDR api when you start the game or enable the option in game. Other games like Shadow of War you will need to enable the Microsoft HDR toggle before you start the game.
The LG C6/E6 has a bug where HDR is not working correctly in PC input. Rec.709 is output instead of BT2020.
This issue might be fixed but at the moment
-for 3D gaming and normal SDR gaming use PC input RGB 8-bit full dynamic range and High or auto black level on TV. This will allow Chroma 4:4:4 and be the best experience.
-for HDR gaming use any other input apart from PC but make sure your in HDR game mode to reduce input lag.
-For HDR movies use any other input apart from PC HDR standard real cinema on Trumotion off.
-For SDR movies I still stay in game console input because real cinema doesn't work in PC input.
[quote="Sideeffect-UK"][quote="danjrowe27"]
Hi. I just picked up a C6 recently and am using your EDID override. First off it works great, so than you for that. But I'd like to ask about HDR as this if my first experience with an HDR display. What's the correct way to set your HDR settings for gaming? As of now in the Nvidia control panel, I have it set to automatic. Will this provide the full color range? If I go to manual, RGB limits me to only 8bit. Shouldn't it be 10bit for HDR10?[/quote]
Unfortunately you can't set automatic because Microsoft just keeps messing up the settings and performing dithering or messing up the dynamic range.
Set yCbCr422 10-bit in Nvidia colour settings. Set TV to Game console input label and HDR game. Some games like Far cry 5 will automatically enable Nvidia HDR api when you start the game or enable the option in game. Other games like Shadow of War you will need to enable the Microsoft HDR toggle before you start the game.
The LG C6/E6 has a bug where HDR is not working correctly in PC input. Rec.709 is output instead of BT2020.
This issue might be fixed but at the moment
-for 3D gaming and normal SDR gaming use PC input RGB 8-bit full dynamic range and High or auto black level on TV. This will allow Chroma 4:4:4 and be the best experience.
-for HDR gaming use any other input apart from PC but make sure your in HDR game mode to reduce input lag.
-For HDR movies use any other input apart from PC HDR standard real cinema on Trumotion off.
-For SDR movies I still stay in game console input because real cinema doesn't work in PC input.[/quote]
If I watching movie SDR 10-bit than I have to switch yCbCr422 10-bit in Nvidia colour settings?
danjrowe27 said:
Hi. I just picked up a C6 recently and am using your EDID override. First off it works great, so than you for that. But I'd like to ask about HDR as this if my first experience with an HDR display. What's the correct way to set your HDR settings for gaming? As of now in the Nvidia control panel, I have it set to automatic. Will this provide the full color range? If I go to manual, RGB limits me to only 8bit. Shouldn't it be 10bit for HDR10?
Unfortunately you can't set automatic because Microsoft just keeps messing up the settings and performing dithering or messing up the dynamic range.
Set yCbCr422 10-bit in Nvidia colour settings. Set TV to Game console input label and HDR game. Some games like Far cry 5 will automatically enable Nvidia HDR api when you start the game or enable the option in game. Other games like Shadow of War you will need to enable the Microsoft HDR toggle before you start the game.
The LG C6/E6 has a bug where HDR is not working correctly in PC input. Rec.709 is output instead of BT2020.
This issue might be fixed but at the moment
-for 3D gaming and normal SDR gaming use PC input RGB 8-bit full dynamic range and High or auto black level on TV. This will allow Chroma 4:4:4 and be the best experience.
-for HDR gaming use any other input apart from PC but make sure your in HDR game mode to reduce input lag.
-For HDR movies use any other input apart from PC HDR standard real cinema on Trumotion off.
-For SDR movies I still stay in game console input because real cinema doesn't work in PC input.
If I watching movie SDR 10-bit than I have to switch yCbCr422 10-bit in Nvidia colour settings?
[quote="SoundBlstr"][quote="whyme466"]So far, no one has successfully modded a 2016 OLED yet. For example, see [url]https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/818183/3d-vision/gtx-970-4k-3d-vision-gaming-success-with-lgub850v-passive-tv-/post/5023772/#5023772[/url] - Iohan has probably done the most testing of different OLED models. Note that 55 in LG 3D TVs provide bigger 3D FOV (relative minimum viewing distance) than 65 in, and are cheaper...[/quote]
FYI- I recently purchased a 2016 LG OLED55C6P TV and was able to get an EDID driver working, "Optimized for NVIDIA GeForce" recognized and 3D working very well (flawlessly in my limited testing so far). I've got a GeForce 1080 / Win10 I had a little trouble at first, but here's what ended up working for me:
[olist]
[.]IN TV SETTINGS: General > HDMI ULTRA HD Deep Color (turn on for ports you're using, I turned it on for all three)[/.]
[.]IN TV SETTINGS: Picture > OLED Panel Settings > Screen Shift (turn off, which I'm pretty sure avoids/reduces the issue where the eyes swap every so often--hasn't happened to me since doing this)[/.]
[.]IN TV SETTINGS: Picture > Picture Mode Settings (set to "Game" - this may not have anything to do with 3D working, but it reduces input lag, etc)[/.]
[.]IN NVIDIA CONTROL PANEL: Display > Change resolution
[list]
[.]Resolution = 3840x2160 (native)[/.]
[.]Refresh rate = 60Hz[/.]
[.]Desktop color depth = 32-bit[/.]
[.]Output color depth = 8 bpc[/.]
[.]Output color format = 4:4:4 (don't remember exact setting name, maybe YCbCr444)[/.]
[.][i]Note: this wasn't possible before changing to HDMI ULTRA on the TV. Also, I had trouble with the TV recognizing the signal until I changed HDMI cables (I used the one that came with my XBox One)[/i][/.]
[/list]
[/.]
[.]Did the EDID driver update using the 'acermod4k.inf' file (see link below)[/.]
[.]After every reboot- run the 3DVisionEyeSwapper.exe utility to switch eyes[/.]
[.][b]EDIT (2/11/2017):[/b] See the following post for some further information that may help getting this working: [url]https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/943900/b/t/post/5081430/#5081430[/url][/.]
[/olist]
DRIVER LINK: [url]https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxmDW2IVWe1pTGtJQ1hSM2EzUUk/view[/url]
[i](unfortunately, I wasn't able to find the exact post that directed me to that link--I downloaded a lot of these over the past few days)[/i]
Before getting the official "Optimized for..." working, I had been testing using Trine 2, which allows you to specify "Line Interlaced (swapped)". This lets you check how the 3D works before getting the EDID override working. Some things I learned:
[list]
[.]Before getting HDMI Ultra HD Deep / 4:4:4 / better HDMI cable, I had annoying issues in 3D in Trine 2 where certain red and blue colors were highly ghosted. It wasn't obvious the extent of the problem until I fixed it and suddenly the overall picture quality was dramatically improved. Now there is no ghosting other than what happens naturally due viewing the screen off-center[/.]
[.]Speaking of off-center, this TV has a much narrower 'sweet spot' for 3D than I'm used to. The [i]closest[/i] you can sit is roughly 4ft away from the screen and (at that distance) your eyes only have a few inches of vertical room before either the top or bottom of the image becomes distorted/flat.[/.]
[.]Before switching to my XBox HDMI cable, the LG TV gave a "No signal" message even though my PC seemed to believe that the monitor was working.[/.]
[.]After the EDID driver update, if I view the "Change resolution" screen in the NVIDIA Control Panel, the Output color format is empty. My guess is this is due to it not being a recognized format for the Acer driver. [/.]
[.]I had tried renaming the HDMI input to "PC" while things weren't working but in the end, the input that worked (HDMI1) didn't happen to be renamed (I had renamed it once, but then changed it back when I was trying other HDMI inputs) [b]EDIT (2/11/2017): SEE ABOVE EDIT FOR A LINK TO MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THIS.[/b][/.]
[/list]
Games I've tested so far (what I happened to have installed): Trine 1-3, Shadwen, Witcher 3, Abzu, Qbeh-1: The Atlas Cube - these have all worked flawlessly (other than normal Helixmod quirks)
Hopefully, this info can help someone else. I've benefited a lot from the discussion here, but I figured I'd collect all of this in one place for anyone who happens to have this TV or (maybe) another 2016 LG 3D OLED.[/quote]
Is this the latest method for OLEDs? I am on a C6. I am trying to find a step by step on how to use 3D at 2160p in 2019.
I also heard about the method pasted below as well where you don't need to overried EDID profile but he did it on an active setup not passive:
You're welcome Muojo.
Ok let's keep things simple. Actually an EDID override is not necessary for unlocking "Optimized for Geforce" mode. There is a much easier way by changing model ID for you TV. I'll explain step by step how to unleash best 3D on your 4K OLED:
Unlocking "Optimized for Geforce" mode:
Download CRU and open it
In the list at the top select your TV (I don't know the exact name. Probably something like "LG OLED 4K". You will recognize it!)
Click on button "Edit" which is located next to the list
In field "ID" type in ACR02B9
Restart your computer
Congratulations. You have just unlocked the best 3D mode for your passive 3D TV (Optimized for Nvidia Geforce).
Configuring 3D Fix Manager for using "Optimized for Geforce" mode:
Open 3D Fix Manager
Click on tab "Settings"
Click on sub-tab "Display Profiles"
Scroll down to "TV Profile" and tick the option "Link profile to display"
In the list on the right select your LG OLED TV (again I don't know the exact name of your TV because I don't have it.)
Tick the option "Display Size"
Set the display size of your TV. It's either 55" or 65" (you will surely know)
Tick option "3D display type"
In the list on the right choose "Reversed Line Interlacing / Optimized for Geforce
Under "Game Settings for 3D mode" tick option "Game resolution"
Set game resolution to 3840 x 2160 @60hz (I suppose this is the native resolution of your TV? If not correct it accordingly please)
Play by starting the games via 3D Fix Manager!
Congratulations. You have just configured 3D Fix Manager to swap eyes so you don't have to wear your 3D glasses upside down. Also you have set that games are started in your native 4K resolution which is needed for Optimized for Geforce to work. Also 3D depth is adjusted to the size of your display.
FYI- I recently purchased a 2016 LG OLED55C6P TV and was able to get an EDID driver working, "Optimized for NVIDIA GeForce" recognized and 3D working very well (flawlessly in my limited testing so far). I've got a GeForce 1080 / Win10 I had a little trouble at first, but here's what ended up working for me:
IN TV SETTINGS: General > HDMI ULTRA HD Deep Color (turn on for ports you're using, I turned it on for all three)
IN TV SETTINGS: Picture > OLED Panel Settings > Screen Shift (turn off, which I'm pretty sure avoids/reduces the issue where the eyes swap every so often--hasn't happened to me since doing this)
IN TV SETTINGS: Picture > Picture Mode Settings (set to "Game" - this may not have anything to do with 3D working, but it reduces input lag, etc)
IN NVIDIA CONTROL PANEL: Display > Change resolution
Resolution = 3840x2160 (native)
Refresh rate = 60Hz
Desktop color depth = 32-bit
Output color depth = 8 bpc
Output color format = 4:4:4 (don't remember exact setting name, maybe YCbCr444)
Note: this wasn't possible before changing to HDMI ULTRA on the TV. Also, I had trouble with the TV recognizing the signal until I changed HDMI cables (I used the one that came with my XBox One)
Did the EDID driver update using the 'acermod4k.inf' file (see link below)
After every reboot- run the 3DVisionEyeSwapper.exe utility to switch eyes
Before getting the official "Optimized for..." working, I had been testing using Trine 2, which allows you to specify "Line Interlaced (swapped)". This lets you check how the 3D works before getting the EDID override working. Some things I learned:
Before getting HDMI Ultra HD Deep / 4:4:4 / better HDMI cable, I had annoying issues in 3D in Trine 2 where certain red and blue colors were highly ghosted. It wasn't obvious the extent of the problem until I fixed it and suddenly the overall picture quality was dramatically improved. Now there is no ghosting other than what happens naturally due viewing the screen off-center
Speaking of off-center, this TV has a much narrower 'sweet spot' for 3D than I'm used to. The closest you can sit is roughly 4ft away from the screen and (at that distance) your eyes only have a few inches of vertical room before either the top or bottom of the image becomes distorted/flat.
Before switching to my XBox HDMI cable, the LG TV gave a "No signal" message even though my PC seemed to believe that the monitor was working.
After the EDID driver update, if I view the "Change resolution" screen in the NVIDIA Control Panel, the Output color format is empty. My guess is this is due to it not being a recognized format for the Acer driver.
I had tried renaming the HDMI input to "PC" while things weren't working but in the end, the input that worked (HDMI1) didn't happen to be renamed (I had renamed it once, but then changed it back when I was trying other HDMI inputs) EDIT (2/11/2017): SEE ABOVE EDIT FOR A LINK TO MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THIS.
Games I've tested so far (what I happened to have installed): Trine 1-3, Shadwen, Witcher 3, Abzu, Qbeh-1: The Atlas Cube - these have all worked flawlessly (other than normal Helixmod quirks)
Hopefully, this info can help someone else. I've benefited a lot from the discussion here, but I figured I'd collect all of this in one place for anyone who happens to have this TV or (maybe) another 2016 LG 3D OLED.
Is this the latest method for OLEDs? I am on a C6. I am trying to find a step by step on how to use 3D at 2160p in 2019.
I also heard about the method pasted below as well where you don't need to overried EDID profile but he did it on an active setup not passive:
You're welcome Muojo.
Ok let's keep things simple. Actually an EDID override is not necessary for unlocking "Optimized for Geforce" mode. There is a much easier way by changing model ID for you TV. I'll explain step by step how to unleash best 3D on your 4K OLED:
Unlocking "Optimized for Geforce" mode:
Download CRU and open it
In the list at the top select your TV (I don't know the exact name. Probably something like "LG OLED 4K". You will recognize it!)
Click on button "Edit" which is located next to the list
In field "ID" type in ACR02B9
Restart your computer
Congratulations. You have just unlocked the best 3D mode for your passive 3D TV (Optimized for Nvidia Geforce).
Configuring 3D Fix Manager for using "Optimized for Geforce" mode:
Open 3D Fix Manager
Click on tab "Settings"
Click on sub-tab "Display Profiles"
Scroll down to "TV Profile" and tick the option "Link profile to display"
In the list on the right select your LG OLED TV (again I don't know the exact name of your TV because I don't have it.)
Tick the option "Display Size"
Set the display size of your TV. It's either 55" or 65" (you will surely know)
Tick option "3D display type"
In the list on the right choose "Reversed Line Interlacing / Optimized for Geforce
Under "Game Settings for 3D mode" tick option "Game resolution"
Set game resolution to 3840 x 2160 @60hz (I suppose this is the native resolution of your TV? If not correct it accordingly please)
Play by starting the games via 3D Fix Manager!
Congratulations. You have just configured 3D Fix Manager to swap eyes so you don't have to wear your 3D glasses upside down. Also you have set that games are started in your native 4K resolution which is needed for Optimized for Geforce to work. Also 3D depth is adjusted to the size of your display.
Your message is confusing. I don't know if you are giving advice or asking :D
Just changing the Device ID in CPU will not work.
you need to apply the Edid which is quite straightforward.
In Windows 10 press shift and hit restart-> chosse troubleshoot->advanced options-> startup settings. On restart choose option 7 ( disable driver signature enforcement..)
IN device manager look for your TV. If you have more and they are all generic then right click->properties->details->choose hardware ids. The LG TV shoudl be named GSM0001 .
Once you identifies just choose update driver and manually point to the edid file location. (have only that file in the filder not t get confused)
For the reverse of L/R you can use the registry mod or just reverse the L?R lens like I did on 2 om my glasses.
Your message is confusing. I don't know if you are giving advice or asking :D
Just changing the Device ID in CPU will not work.
you need to apply the Edid which is quite straightforward.
In Windows 10 press shift and hit restart-> chosse troubleshoot->advanced options-> startup settings. On restart choose option 7 ( disable driver signature enforcement..)
IN device manager look for your TV. If you have more and they are all generic then right click->properties->details->choose hardware ids. The LG TV shoudl be named GSM0001 .
Once you identifies just choose update driver and manually point to the edid file location. (have only that file in the filder not t get confused)
For the reverse of L/R you can use the registry mod or just reverse the L?R lens like I did on 2 om my glasses.
Intel i7 8086K
Gigabyte GTX 1080Ti Aorus Extreme
DDR4 2x8gb 3200mhz Cl14
TV LG OLED65E6V
Avegant Glyph
Windows 10 64bits
[quote="joker18"]
Just changing the Device ID in CPU will not work. [/quote]
I suggested this to him because it's a bit easier to do. At least this Procedure unlocks optimized for geforce 3d Mode. I don't have a 3d OLED TV but out of curiosity: what Else is missing to make 3d work on that TV after unlocking optimized for geforce Mode via cru? Any Information still missing in the edid?
joker18 said:
Just changing the Device ID in CPU will not work.
I suggested this to him because it's a bit easier to do. At least this Procedure unlocks optimized for geforce 3d Mode. I don't have a 3d OLED TV but out of curiosity: what Else is missing to make 3d work on that TV after unlocking optimized for geforce Mode via cru? Any Information still missing in the edid?
ASUS ROG Strix GeForce GTX 1080 | Core I7-7700K | 16GB RAM | Win10 Pro x64
Asus ROG Swift PG278Q 3D Vision Monitor
Optoma UHD 40 3D Vision Projector
Paypal donations for 3D Fix Manager: duselpaul86@gmx.de
In Device Manager, with only TV (and VR HMDs) connected, I simply replace the Generic Monitor driver with joker18’s great EDID (link previously shared above) every time new NVIDIA driver is installed (select clean install) - after using DDU to uninstall old driver first in Safe mode. Very straight forward (with one-time Windows 10 driver signature override, for first use of EDID). I highly suggest Eye Swapper app, rather than direct Registry override method described in some on-line references (the method worked, but prevented saving convergence changes).
Note that an EDID also includes detailed signal timing for native resolution modes - essential for correct operation.
In Device Manager, with only TV (and VR HMDs) connected, I simply replace the Generic Monitor driver with joker18’s great EDID (link previously shared above) every time new NVIDIA driver is installed (select clean install) - after using DDU to uninstall old driver first in Safe mode. Very straight forward (with one-time Windows 10 driver signature override, for first use of EDID). I highly suggest Eye Swapper app, rather than direct Registry override method described in some on-line references (the method worked, but prevented saving convergence changes).
Note that an EDID also includes detailed signal timing for native resolution modes - essential for correct operation.
@Muojo: I would recommend to try both ways. Doing it via CRU requires 30 seconds of work. It will unlock Optimized for Geforce in Nvidia Control Panel fore sure but maybe that's not enough to make 3D finally work on the TV. Maybe Joker changed timings of a resolution in the EDID to make 3D work. I don't know - maybe he'll let us know. Would be appreciated.
If CRU way does not work try the EDID override way. It takes not more than 5 minutes to do.
@Muojo: I would recommend to try both ways. Doing it via CRU requires 30 seconds of work. It will unlock Optimized for Geforce in Nvidia Control Panel fore sure but maybe that's not enough to make 3D finally work on the TV. Maybe Joker changed timings of a resolution in the EDID to make 3D work. I don't know - maybe he'll let us know. Would be appreciated.
If CRU way does not work try the EDID override way. It takes not more than 5 minutes to do.
ASUS ROG Strix GeForce GTX 1080 | Core I7-7700K | 16GB RAM | Win10 Pro x64
Asus ROG Swift PG278Q 3D Vision Monitor
Optoma UHD 40 3D Vision Projector
Paypal donations for 3D Fix Manager: duselpaul86@gmx.de
[quote="Pauldusler"]@Muojo: I would recommend to try both ways. Doing it via CRU requires 30 seconds of work. It will unlock Optimized for Geforce in Nvidia Control Panel fore sure but maybe that's not enough to make 3D finally work on the TV. Maybe Joker changed timings of a resolution in the EDID to make 3D work. I don't know - maybe he'll let us know. Would be appreciated.
If CRU way does not work try the EDID override way. It takes not more than 5 minutes to do.[/quote]
Yeah but being so new to this I didn't know if you can try both and if so, how one could roll back the first method and attempt the second one.
I preferred your way because of how well you wrote it down. With qhyme466's way I didn't even know how to set EDID override until Joker mentioned it.
Using the default 3fix btw, the one with limits, Arkham Knight crashes while gliding or doing anything fast and Crysis 3 has extra crosstalk/ghosting. It is very apparent in game when I am not using my sights. It looks fine using ym sights but once its in default position, it looks like there are multiple guns in center screen. Its jarring.
I'm guessing this could be due to tweaking a setting somewhere to fit my TV screen size? I am new to all this so I don't know if these default drivers require changing your TV size
Pauldusler said:@Muojo: I would recommend to try both ways. Doing it via CRU requires 30 seconds of work. It will unlock Optimized for Geforce in Nvidia Control Panel fore sure but maybe that's not enough to make 3D finally work on the TV. Maybe Joker changed timings of a resolution in the EDID to make 3D work. I don't know - maybe he'll let us know. Would be appreciated.
If CRU way does not work try the EDID override way. It takes not more than 5 minutes to do.
Yeah but being so new to this I didn't know if you can try both and if so, how one could roll back the first method and attempt the second one.
I preferred your way because of how well you wrote it down. With qhyme466's way I didn't even know how to set EDID override until Joker mentioned it.
Using the default 3fix btw, the one with limits, Arkham Knight crashes while gliding or doing anything fast and Crysis 3 has extra crosstalk/ghosting. It is very apparent in game when I am not using my sights. It looks fine using ym sights but once its in default position, it looks like there are multiple guns in center screen. Its jarring.
I'm guessing this could be due to tweaking a setting somewhere to fit my TV screen size? I am new to all this so I don't know if these default drivers require changing your TV size
EDID roll-back is accomplished simply by reloading graphics card driver. Very easy - no risk in trying. If joker18's EDID override is successful, Monitors driver in Windows 10 Device Manager should appear as Acer HR274H (ACR02B9 EDID Override).
Note that this EDID override limits some display resolution options that would normally be available, but native 3840x2160 resolution (Desktop and in-game) works superbly. Some 3D blu-ray playback software may not work correctly with EDID installed, also. As I mentioned previously, joker18's latest EDID also supports HDR quite well. For example, Darksiders 3 has great HDR with DHR's 3D vision fix, with automatic low-ghosting 3D.
Older reference describing EDID process - see [url]https://3dvision-blog.com/tag/edid-override/[/url]. Windows 10 (1809) Advanced Restart options are available via Windows Settings/Update & Security/Recovery. This is the same path used to access Safe startup mode for DDU, as well.
By the way, the incredible world of 3D gaming this opens is really worth the effort, Muojo...
EDID roll-back is accomplished simply by reloading graphics card driver. Very easy - no risk in trying. If joker18's EDID override is successful, Monitors driver in Windows 10 Device Manager should appear as Acer HR274H (ACR02B9 EDID Override).
Note that this EDID override limits some display resolution options that would normally be available, but native 3840x2160 resolution (Desktop and in-game) works superbly. Some 3D blu-ray playback software may not work correctly with EDID installed, also. As I mentioned previously, joker18's latest EDID also supports HDR quite well. For example, Darksiders 3 has great HDR with DHR's 3D vision fix, with automatic low-ghosting 3D.
Older reference describing EDID process - see https://3dvision-blog.com/tag/edid-override/. Windows 10 (1809) Advanced Restart options are available via Windows Settings/Update & Security/Recovery. This is the same path used to access Safe startup mode for DDU, as well.
By the way, the incredible world of 3D gaming this opens is really worth the effort, Muojo...
[quote="Pauldusler"]@Muojo: I would recommend to try both ways. Doing it via CRU requires 30 seconds of work. It will unlock Optimized for Geforce in Nvidia Control Panel fore sure but maybe that's not enough to make 3D finally work on the TV. Maybe Joker changed timings of a resolution in the EDID to make 3D work. I don't know - maybe he'll let us know. Would be appreciated.
If CRU way does not work try the EDID override way. It takes not more than 5 minutes to do.[/quote]
The edid contains changes in the extension block which as far as I know are nor visible in CRU. I can't tell you specifically which is the line responsible for succes because I don't know. the important thing is that it works.
Pauldusler said:@Muojo: I would recommend to try both ways. Doing it via CRU requires 30 seconds of work. It will unlock Optimized for Geforce in Nvidia Control Panel fore sure but maybe that's not enough to make 3D finally work on the TV. Maybe Joker changed timings of a resolution in the EDID to make 3D work. I don't know - maybe he'll let us know. Would be appreciated.
If CRU way does not work try the EDID override way. It takes not more than 5 minutes to do.
The edid contains changes in the extension block which as far as I know are nor visible in CRU. I can't tell you specifically which is the line responsible for succes because I don't know. the important thing is that it works.
Intel i7 8086K
Gigabyte GTX 1080Ti Aorus Extreme
DDR4 2x8gb 3200mhz Cl14
TV LG OLED65E6V
Avegant Glyph
Windows 10 64bits
[quote="joker18"][quote="Pauldusler"]@Muojo: I would recommend to try both ways. Doing it via CRU requires 30 seconds of work. It will unlock Optimized for Geforce in Nvidia Control Panel fore sure but maybe that's not enough to make 3D finally work on the TV. Maybe Joker changed timings of a resolution in the EDID to make 3D work. I don't know - maybe he'll let us know. Would be appreciated.
If CRU way does not work try the EDID override way. It takes not more than 5 minutes to do.[/quote]
The edid contains changes in the extension block which as far as I know are nor visible in CRU. I can't tell you specifically which is the line responsible for succes because I don't know. the important thing is that it works. [/quote]
SO what are the steps?
Just install the EDID override and thats it? everything else runs?
Pauldusler said:@Muojo: I would recommend to try both ways. Doing it via CRU requires 30 seconds of work. It will unlock Optimized for Geforce in Nvidia Control Panel fore sure but maybe that's not enough to make 3D finally work on the TV. Maybe Joker changed timings of a resolution in the EDID to make 3D work. I don't know - maybe he'll let us know. Would be appreciated.
If CRU way does not work try the EDID override way. It takes not more than 5 minutes to do.
The edid contains changes in the extension block which as far as I know are nor visible in CRU. I can't tell you specifically which is the line responsible for succes because I don't know. the important thing is that it works.
SO what are the steps?
Just install the EDID override and thats it? everything else runs?
[quote="joker18"][quote="Pauldusler"]@Muojo: I would recommend to try both ways. Doing it via CRU requires 30 seconds of work. It will unlock Optimized for Geforce in Nvidia Control Panel fore sure but maybe that's not enough to make 3D finally work on the TV. Maybe Joker changed timings of a resolution in the EDID to make 3D work. I don't know - maybe he'll let us know. Would be appreciated.
If CRU way does not work try the EDID override way. It takes not more than 5 minutes to do.[/quote]
The edid contains changes in the extension block which as far as I know are nor visible in CRU. I can't tell you specifically which is the line responsible for succes because I don't know. the important thing is that it works. [/quote]
Thx for the info - I alread guessed that it's something in the extension block. And what are the results if we just changed model ID via CRU? 3D Vision / "Optimized for Geforce" not kicking in? Polarization not working? Ghosting issue? What is the issue? Just tried and I could unlock "Optimized for Geforce" for my Asus PG278Q 3D monitor via CRU / model ID edit. Of course it can't work because it's an active 3D monitor but it's unlocked in Nvidia Control Panel.
Pauldusler said:@Muojo: I would recommend to try both ways. Doing it via CRU requires 30 seconds of work. It will unlock Optimized for Geforce in Nvidia Control Panel fore sure but maybe that's not enough to make 3D finally work on the TV. Maybe Joker changed timings of a resolution in the EDID to make 3D work. I don't know - maybe he'll let us know. Would be appreciated.
If CRU way does not work try the EDID override way. It takes not more than 5 minutes to do.
The edid contains changes in the extension block which as far as I know are nor visible in CRU. I can't tell you specifically which is the line responsible for succes because I don't know. the important thing is that it works.
Thx for the info - I alread guessed that it's something in the extension block. And what are the results if we just changed model ID via CRU? 3D Vision / "Optimized for Geforce" not kicking in? Polarization not working? Ghosting issue? What is the issue? Just tried and I could unlock "Optimized for Geforce" for my Asus PG278Q 3D monitor via CRU / model ID edit. Of course it can't work because it's an active 3D monitor but it's unlocked in Nvidia Control Panel.
ASUS ROG Strix GeForce GTX 1080 | Core I7-7700K | 16GB RAM | Win10 Pro x64
Asus ROG Swift PG278Q 3D Vision Monitor
Optoma UHD 40 3D Vision Projector
Paypal donations for 3D Fix Manager: duselpaul86@gmx.de
Yes Muojo just install teh edid.
Pauldusler, I don't know why it works for you like this because for me it doesn't do anything. Not on the TV and not on my 2D monitor. My TV gets 3dtvplay and my 2D monitor 3dvision discover.
Pauldusler, I don't know why it works for you like this because for me it doesn't do anything. Not on the TV and not on my 2D monitor. My TV gets 3dtvplay and my 2D monitor 3dvision discover.
Intel i7 8086K
Gigabyte GTX 1080Ti Aorus Extreme
DDR4 2x8gb 3200mhz Cl14
TV LG OLED65E6V
Avegant Glyph
Windows 10 64bits
The reason is because HDR movie files have a metadata information file that needs to be passed through to the display.
The best way to watch HDR movies in windows is using MadVR which is a DirectShow video renderer that has support for HDR passthrough and also supports 3D video playback.
You will also need a compatible video player that supports MadVR for example Media player classic, Pot player or DSplayer.
MadVR has a tutorial on their forum which will help you set it up.
Edit- All the mentioned software is free.
Great advices!
Especially how to setup HDR for each sliders the games offer.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/hdr-games-analysed.23587/
Does this apply to 3D HDR gaming too? Thanks
If I watching movie SDR 10-bit than I have to switch yCbCr422 10-bit in Nvidia colour settings?
Is this the latest method for OLEDs? I am on a C6. I am trying to find a step by step on how to use 3D at 2160p in 2019.
I also heard about the method pasted below as well where you don't need to overried EDID profile but he did it on an active setup not passive:
You're welcome Muojo.
Ok let's keep things simple. Actually an EDID override is not necessary for unlocking "Optimized for Geforce" mode. There is a much easier way by changing model ID for you TV. I'll explain step by step how to unleash best 3D on your 4K OLED:
Unlocking "Optimized for Geforce" mode:
Download CRU and open it
In the list at the top select your TV (I don't know the exact name. Probably something like "LG OLED 4K". You will recognize it!)
Click on button "Edit" which is located next to the list
In field "ID" type in ACR02B9
Restart your computer
Congratulations. You have just unlocked the best 3D mode for your passive 3D TV (Optimized for Nvidia Geforce).
Configuring 3D Fix Manager for using "Optimized for Geforce" mode:
Open 3D Fix Manager
Click on tab "Settings"
Click on sub-tab "Display Profiles"
Scroll down to "TV Profile" and tick the option "Link profile to display"
In the list on the right select your LG OLED TV (again I don't know the exact name of your TV because I don't have it.)
Tick the option "Display Size"
Set the display size of your TV. It's either 55" or 65" (you will surely know)
Tick option "3D display type"
In the list on the right choose "Reversed Line Interlacing / Optimized for Geforce
Under "Game Settings for 3D mode" tick option "Game resolution"
Set game resolution to 3840 x 2160 @60hz (I suppose this is the native resolution of your TV? If not correct it accordingly please)
Play by starting the games via 3D Fix Manager!
Congratulations. You have just configured 3D Fix Manager to swap eyes so you don't have to wear your 3D glasses upside down. Also you have set that games are started in your native 4K resolution which is needed for Optimized for Geforce to work. Also 3D depth is adjusted to the size of your display.
Just changing the Device ID in CPU will not work.
you need to apply the Edid which is quite straightforward.
In Windows 10 press shift and hit restart-> chosse troubleshoot->advanced options-> startup settings. On restart choose option 7 ( disable driver signature enforcement..)
IN device manager look for your TV. If you have more and they are all generic then right click->properties->details->choose hardware ids. The LG TV shoudl be named GSM0001 .
Once you identifies just choose update driver and manually point to the edid file location. (have only that file in the filder not t get confused)
For the reverse of L/R you can use the registry mod or just reverse the L?R lens like I did on 2 om my glasses.
Intel i7 8086K
Gigabyte GTX 1080Ti Aorus Extreme
DDR4 2x8gb 3200mhz Cl14
TV LG OLED65E6V
Avegant Glyph
Windows 10 64bits
I suggested this to him because it's a bit easier to do. At least this Procedure unlocks optimized for geforce 3d Mode. I don't have a 3d OLED TV but out of curiosity: what Else is missing to make 3d work on that TV after unlocking optimized for geforce Mode via cru? Any Information still missing in the edid?
ASUS ROG Strix GeForce GTX 1080 | Core I7-7700K | 16GB RAM | Win10 Pro x64
Asus ROG Swift PG278Q 3D Vision Monitor
Optoma UHD 40 3D Vision Projector
Paypal donations for 3D Fix Manager: duselpaul86@gmx.de
Note that an EDID also includes detailed signal timing for native resolution modes - essential for correct operation.
If CRU way does not work try the EDID override way. It takes not more than 5 minutes to do.
ASUS ROG Strix GeForce GTX 1080 | Core I7-7700K | 16GB RAM | Win10 Pro x64
Asus ROG Swift PG278Q 3D Vision Monitor
Optoma UHD 40 3D Vision Projector
Paypal donations for 3D Fix Manager: duselpaul86@gmx.de
Yeah but being so new to this I didn't know if you can try both and if so, how one could roll back the first method and attempt the second one.
I preferred your way because of how well you wrote it down. With qhyme466's way I didn't even know how to set EDID override until Joker mentioned it.
Using the default 3fix btw, the one with limits, Arkham Knight crashes while gliding or doing anything fast and Crysis 3 has extra crosstalk/ghosting. It is very apparent in game when I am not using my sights. It looks fine using ym sights but once its in default position, it looks like there are multiple guns in center screen. Its jarring.
I'm guessing this could be due to tweaking a setting somewhere to fit my TV screen size? I am new to all this so I don't know if these default drivers require changing your TV size
Note that this EDID override limits some display resolution options that would normally be available, but native 3840x2160 resolution (Desktop and in-game) works superbly. Some 3D blu-ray playback software may not work correctly with EDID installed, also. As I mentioned previously, joker18's latest EDID also supports HDR quite well. For example, Darksiders 3 has great HDR with DHR's 3D vision fix, with automatic low-ghosting 3D.
Older reference describing EDID process - see https://3dvision-blog.com/tag/edid-override/. Windows 10 (1809) Advanced Restart options are available via Windows Settings/Update & Security/Recovery. This is the same path used to access Safe startup mode for DDU, as well.
By the way, the incredible world of 3D gaming this opens is really worth the effort, Muojo...
The edid contains changes in the extension block which as far as I know are nor visible in CRU. I can't tell you specifically which is the line responsible for succes because I don't know. the important thing is that it works.
Intel i7 8086K
Gigabyte GTX 1080Ti Aorus Extreme
DDR4 2x8gb 3200mhz Cl14
TV LG OLED65E6V
Avegant Glyph
Windows 10 64bits
SO what are the steps?
Just install the EDID override and thats it? everything else runs?
Thx for the info - I alread guessed that it's something in the extension block. And what are the results if we just changed model ID via CRU? 3D Vision / "Optimized for Geforce" not kicking in? Polarization not working? Ghosting issue? What is the issue? Just tried and I could unlock "Optimized for Geforce" for my Asus PG278Q 3D monitor via CRU / model ID edit. Of course it can't work because it's an active 3D monitor but it's unlocked in Nvidia Control Panel.
ASUS ROG Strix GeForce GTX 1080 | Core I7-7700K | 16GB RAM | Win10 Pro x64
Asus ROG Swift PG278Q 3D Vision Monitor
Optoma UHD 40 3D Vision Projector
Paypal donations for 3D Fix Manager: duselpaul86@gmx.de
Pauldusler, I don't know why it works for you like this because for me it doesn't do anything. Not on the TV and not on my 2D monitor. My TV gets 3dtvplay and my 2D monitor 3dvision discover.
Intel i7 8086K
Gigabyte GTX 1080Ti Aorus Extreme
DDR4 2x8gb 3200mhz Cl14
TV LG OLED65E6V
Avegant Glyph
Windows 10 64bits