3d vision with LG passive 3D TVs
hi

Can we use 3d vision in interleaved mode with
LG Cinem3D TV-s, like the 42LW4500?
So not with hdmi 1.4

thanks
hi



Can we use 3d vision in interleaved mode with

LG Cinem3D TV-s, like the 42LW4500?

So not with hdmi 1.4



thanks

#1
Posted 02/13/2012 01:36 PM   
Yes you can

[url="http://3dvision-blog.com/7163-make-your-passive-3d-monitor-or-3d-hdtv-work-with-3d-vision/"]http://3dvision-blog.com/7163-make-your-passive-3d-monitor-or-3d-hdtv-work-with-3d-vision/[/url]
[quote name='relaxman' date='13 February 2012 - 05:36 AM' timestamp='1329140196' post='1368844']
hi

Can we use 3d vision in interleaved mode with
LG Cinem3D TV-s, like the 42LW4500?
So not with hdmi 1.4

thanks
[/quote]

err.... maybe... The LG passive TVs are somehow built differently than Toshiba, Vizio, Acer, Viewsonic & LG computer passive Monitors because many have severe ghosting in native interleaved mode. They seem to do SBS, TAB & FP well, but have issues with native interleaved. There is a thread over on AVS about this. [url="http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1344018"]LG passive ghosting thread[/url] I have heard different accounts on Vizios.

I am under the impression that some of the models have this problem for different reasons. The 65 inch that I have can be fixed by switching 2d>3d mode with depth turned down to zero and this does something to the screen to make it accept native interleaved thrown at it without causing ghosting (cross talk). Not sure they all are fixed that way though. If I do that I can use 3d Vision in interleaved with the EDID fix but I have to put my glasses on upside down. Toshiba & some of the Vizios I have heard don't have to put the glasses on upside down.

Anybody have an LG TV that works ok in native interleaved, other than the computer monitor? I know the LG computer monitor works.
[quote name='relaxman' date='13 February 2012 - 05:36 AM' timestamp='1329140196' post='1368844']

hi



Can we use 3d vision in interleaved mode with

LG Cinem3D TV-s, like the 42LW4500?

So not with hdmi 1.4



thanks





err.... maybe... The LG passive TVs are somehow built differently than Toshiba, Vizio, Acer, Viewsonic & LG computer passive Monitors because many have severe ghosting in native interleaved mode. They seem to do SBS, TAB & FP well, but have issues with native interleaved. There is a thread over on AVS about this. LG passive ghosting thread I have heard different accounts on Vizios.



I am under the impression that some of the models have this problem for different reasons. The 65 inch that I have can be fixed by switching 2d>3d mode with depth turned down to zero and this does something to the screen to make it accept native interleaved thrown at it without causing ghosting (cross talk). Not sure they all are fixed that way though. If I do that I can use 3d Vision in interleaved with the EDID fix but I have to put my glasses on upside down. Toshiba & some of the Vizios I have heard don't have to put the glasses on upside down.



Anybody have an LG TV that works ok in native interleaved, other than the computer monitor? I know the LG computer monitor works.

#3
Posted 02/14/2012 05:12 AM   
[quote name='vinyne' date='14 February 2012 - 04:42 AM' timestamp='1329194549' post='1369189']
Yes you can

[url="http://3dvision-blog.com/7163-make-your-passive-3d-monitor-or-3d-hdtv-work-with-3d-vision/"]http://3dvision-blog.com/7163-make-your-passive-3d-monitor-or-3d-hdtv-work-with-3d-vision/[/url]
[/quote]

Nice!
[quote name='vinyne' date='14 February 2012 - 04:42 AM' timestamp='1329194549' post='1369189']

Yes you can



http://3dvision-blog.com/7163-make-your-passive-3d-monitor-or-3d-hdtv-work-with-3d-vision/





Nice!

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#4
Posted 02/14/2012 06:31 AM   
Thanks
Is the L-R swapping issue still exist? Any solution besides wearing glasses upsidedown?
Thanks

Is the L-R swapping issue still exist? Any solution besides wearing glasses upsidedown?

#5
Posted 02/14/2012 11:07 AM   
[quote name='quisp65' date='14 February 2012 - 05:12 AM' timestamp='1329196350' post='1369198']
err.... maybe... The LG passive TVs are somehow built differently than Toshiba, Vizio, Acer, Viewsonic & LG computer passive Monitors because many have severe ghosting in native interleaved mode. They seem to do SBS, TAB & FP well, but have issues with native interleaved. There is a thread over on AVS about this. [url="http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1344018"]LG passive ghosting thread[/url] I have heard different accounts on Vizios.

I am under the impression that some of the models have this problem for different reasons. The 65 inch that I have can be fixed by switching 2d>3d mode with depth turned down to zero and this does something to the screen to make it accept native interleaved thrown at it without causing ghosting (cross talk). Not sure they all are fixed that way though. If I do that I can use 3d Vision in interleaved with the EDID fix but I have to put my glasses on upside down. Toshiba & some of the Vizios I have heard don't have to put the glasses on upside down.

Anybody have an LG TV that works ok in native interleaved, other than the computer monitor? I know the LG computer monitor works.
[/quote]

Hi ,
Yes the tosh i had had no colourghosting issue's with a stock edid, the same goes for a philips 32pfl7606 i have now, both work with the edid mod perfectly.
I had a lg 47lk950u that needed no eye correction, worked with glasses without needing to wear them upside down.
Have you not tried the clear ghosting fix i posted here?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQR4h70WNd0
This was confirmed as working with 2 lg's with completly different menue's, the button preses remain the same though, you just have to convert the settings to your menu layout, if i could get my hands on a lg with a different menu i'd post that allso but i can't get access :(
This gives working interleaved with no colour/clear ghosting with interleaved with a pc label :), and i believe pc label has the least input lag.
[quote name='quisp65' date='14 February 2012 - 05:12 AM' timestamp='1329196350' post='1369198']

err.... maybe... The LG passive TVs are somehow built differently than Toshiba, Vizio, Acer, Viewsonic & LG computer passive Monitors because many have severe ghosting in native interleaved mode. They seem to do SBS, TAB & FP well, but have issues with native interleaved. There is a thread over on AVS about this. LG passive ghosting thread I have heard different accounts on Vizios.



I am under the impression that some of the models have this problem for different reasons. The 65 inch that I have can be fixed by switching 2d>3d mode with depth turned down to zero and this does something to the screen to make it accept native interleaved thrown at it without causing ghosting (cross talk). Not sure they all are fixed that way though. If I do that I can use 3d Vision in interleaved with the EDID fix but I have to put my glasses on upside down. Toshiba & some of the Vizios I have heard don't have to put the glasses on upside down.



Anybody have an LG TV that works ok in native interleaved, other than the computer monitor? I know the LG computer monitor works.





Hi ,

Yes the tosh i had had no colourghosting issue's with a stock edid, the same goes for a philips 32pfl7606 i have now, both work with the edid mod perfectly.

I had a lg 47lk950u that needed no eye correction, worked with glasses without needing to wear them upside down.

Have you not tried the clear ghosting fix i posted here?



This was confirmed as working with 2 lg's with completly different menue's, the button preses remain the same though, you just have to convert the settings to your menu layout, if i could get my hands on a lg with a different menu i'd post that allso but i can't get access :(

This gives working interleaved with no colour/clear ghosting with interleaved with a pc label :), and i believe pc label has the least input lag.

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#6
Posted 02/14/2012 11:58 AM   
posting error (sorry)
posting error (sorry)

#7
Posted 02/14/2012 01:37 PM   
"Have you not tried the clear ghosting fix i posted here?"

Yea. It didn't work for me with the US LG 65 inch. I've noticed this TV to behave a bit different than what others that have posted. I saw no improvement with playing with sharpness and can actually eliminate ghosting entirely by looking at the screen at a high angle. Also can eliminate it by 2d>3d and depth down to zero and then putting up an interleaved signal, but this adds about 75ms input lag. It doesn't matter much now cause I game on my Acer 3d passive monitor now. Just posting the info for others to note.
"Have you not tried the clear ghosting fix i posted here?"



Yea. It didn't work for me with the US LG 65 inch. I've noticed this TV to behave a bit different than what others that have posted. I saw no improvement with playing with sharpness and can actually eliminate ghosting entirely by looking at the screen at a high angle. Also can eliminate it by 2d>3d and depth down to zero and then putting up an interleaved signal, but this adds about 75ms input lag. It doesn't matter much now cause I game on my Acer 3d passive monitor now. Just posting the info for others to note.

#8
Posted 02/14/2012 01:42 PM   
[quote name='relaxman' date='14 February 2012 - 03:07 AM' timestamp='1329217641' post='1369306']
Thanks
Is the L-R swapping issue still exist? Any solution besides wearing glasses upsidedown?
[/quote]

I used the Zalman EDID on the Acer HR274H and I didn't have to do the eye correction, so I would assume this means the Acer EDID with HDMI audio support still needs the eye correction on some Passive displays since it behaves the same as the Zalman EDID. Someone posted they just take a cheap pair of glasses and busted the lens out and glued them the other way. Looks sloppy but you don't notice when you have them on. I couldn't find a reversed pair of glasses for sale when I looked. This thread I seem to remember gave me some clue as to which displays needed eye correction. [url="http://www.mtbs3d.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=115&t=13821"]Thread with hints of displays needing eye correction[/url]
Bloody's thread linked above is the one with the Acer EDID though.
[quote name='relaxman' date='14 February 2012 - 03:07 AM' timestamp='1329217641' post='1369306']

Thanks

Is the L-R swapping issue still exist? Any solution besides wearing glasses upsidedown?





I used the Zalman EDID on the Acer HR274H and I didn't have to do the eye correction, so I would assume this means the Acer EDID with HDMI audio support still needs the eye correction on some Passive displays since it behaves the same as the Zalman EDID. Someone posted they just take a cheap pair of glasses and busted the lens out and glued them the other way. Looks sloppy but you don't notice when you have them on. I couldn't find a reversed pair of glasses for sale when I looked. This thread I seem to remember gave me some clue as to which displays needed eye correction. Thread with hints of displays needing eye correction

Bloody's thread linked above is the one with the Acer EDID though.

#9
Posted 02/14/2012 02:36 PM   
[quote name='relaxman' date='14 February 2012 - 06:07 AM' timestamp='1329217641' post='1369306']
Thanks
Is the L-R swapping issue still exist? Any solution besides wearing glasses upsidedown?
[/quote]

Does your TV have an option to shift the screen position?

If so, just shift the screen up or down by one.
[quote name='relaxman' date='14 February 2012 - 06:07 AM' timestamp='1329217641' post='1369306']

Thanks

Is the L-R swapping issue still exist? Any solution besides wearing glasses upsidedown?





Does your TV have an option to shift the screen position?



If so, just shift the screen up or down by one.

#10
Posted 02/14/2012 03:49 PM   
Sorry, i don't have the TV yet.
If 3dvision works, i will buy, that's why i asked.
Somebody who have can answer this question.
Sorry, i don't have the TV yet.

If 3dvision works, i will buy, that's why i asked.

Somebody who have can answer this question.

#11
Posted 02/15/2012 06:10 AM   
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